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Title: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 21, 2013, 12:42:51 PM
copied from another forum:
Study shows the more devout a Muslim the more violent he becomes, and the more devout a Christian, the more peaceful he becomes

In this study and presentation shown in the video, it was discovered that the more devout a Muslim becomes, the more violent he becomes.

The opposite, was discovered with Christians. That the more devout a Christian, the more peaceful he becomes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBcomAcJhtQ

Why is this?

A devout Muslim, will more closely follow the examples of their prophet Muhammad. And a devout Christian, will more closely follow the examples of Jesus.

Muhammad vs Jesus

Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam.
(Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38)

Said God loves everyone.
(John 3:16)

"I have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
is the messenger of Allah"
(Muslim 1:33)

"He who lives by the sword
will die by the sword."
(Matthew 26:52)

Stoned women for adultery.
(Muslim 4206)

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
(John 8:7)

Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)

"Thou shalt not steal."
(Matthew 19:18)

Permitted lying.
(Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)

"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
(Matthew 19:18)

Owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)

Neither owned nor traded slaves.

Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Sahih Muslim 4390)

Beheaded no one.

Murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)

Preached forgiveness.
(Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)

"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"
(Qur'an 2:194)

"If someone strikes you on the right
cheek, turn to him the other also."
(Matthew 5:39)

Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
(Muslim 4645)

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for
they will be called Sons of God"
(Matthew 5:9)

Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)

Was celibate.

Slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)

Did not have sex with children.

Ordered the murder of women.
(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)

Never harmed a woman.

"O you who believe! Fight those of the
unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness."
(Qur'an 9:123)

"Blessed are the meek, for
they shall inherit the earth."
(Matthew 5:5)

Ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )

Ordered no military campaigns, nor
offered any approval of war or violence.

Killed captives taken in battle.
(Ibn Ishaq 451)

Never took captives.
Never killed anyone.

Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)

Never encouraged rape.
Never enslaved women.

Demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Qur'an 8:41)

"The Son of Man came not
to be served, but to serve."
(Matthew 20:28)

Was never tortured, but tortured others.
(Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)

Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.

"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"
(Qur'an 8:39)

"Love your enemies and pray
for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5:44)

Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man
(al-Tabari 1440)

Healed a blind man
(Mark 8:28)

Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
from which he preached Islam.
(Bukhari 47:743)

Washed his disciples feet.
(John 13:5)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause"
(Muslim 1:149)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself."
(Matthew 22:34-40)

Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship
(Qur'an 4:102)

Chastised anyone attempting
to defend him with force.
(John 18:10-12)

Died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or
demanded from others in tribute.

Demanded nothing for himself.
Died without possessions.

Advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)

Was crucified himself.

According to his followers:
Had others give their lives for him.
(Sahih Muslim 4413)

According to his followers:
Gave his life for others.
(John 18:11 and elsewhere)


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Radical Plato on April 21, 2013, 12:47:16 PM
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Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: stingray on April 21, 2013, 03:40:33 PM
copied from another forum:
Study shows the more devout a Muslim the more violent he becomes, and the more devout a Christian, the more peaceful he becomes

In this study and presentation shown in the video, it was discovered that the more devout a Muslim becomes, the more violent he becomes.

The opposite, was discovered with Christians. That the more devout a Christian, the more peaceful he becomes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBcomAcJhtQ

Why is this?

A devout Muslim, will more closely follow the examples of their prophet Muhammad. And a devout Christian, will more closely follow the examples of Jesus.

Muhammad vs Jesus

Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam.
(Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38)

Said God loves everyone.
(John 3:16)

"I have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
is the messenger of Allah"
(Muslim 1:33)

"He who lives by the sword
will die by the sword."
(Matthew 26:52)

Stoned women for adultery.
(Muslim 4206)

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
(John 8:7)

Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)

"Thou shalt not steal."
(Matthew 19:18)

Permitted lying.
(Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)

"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
(Matthew 19:18)

Owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)

Neither owned nor traded slaves.

Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Sahih Muslim 4390)

Beheaded no one.

Murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)

Preached forgiveness.
(Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)

"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"
(Qur'an 2:194)

"If someone strikes you on the right
cheek, turn to him the other also."
(Matthew 5:39)

Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
(Muslim 4645)

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for
they will be called Sons of God"
(Matthew 5:9)

Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)

Was celibate.

Slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)

Did not have sex with children.

Ordered the murder of women.
(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)

Never harmed a woman.

"O you who believe! Fight those of the
unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness."
(Qur'an 9:123)

"Blessed are the meek, for
they shall inherit the earth."
(Matthew 5:5)

Ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )

Ordered no military campaigns, nor
offered any approval of war or violence.

Killed captives taken in battle.
(Ibn Ishaq 451)

Never took captives.
Never killed anyone.

Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)

Never encouraged rape.
Never enslaved women.

Demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Qur'an 8:41)

"The Son of Man came not
to be served, but to serve."
(Matthew 20:28)

Was never tortured, but tortured others.
(Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)

Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.

"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"
(Qur'an 8:39)

"Love your enemies and pray
for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5:44)

Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man
(al-Tabari 1440)

Healed a blind man
(Mark 8:28)

Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
from which he preached Islam.
(Bukhari 47:743)

Washed his disciples feet.
(John 13:5)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause"
(Muslim 1:149)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself."
(Matthew 22:34-40)

Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship
(Qur'an 4:102)

Chastised anyone attempting
to defend him with force.
(John 18:10-12)

Died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or
demanded from others in tribute.

Demanded nothing for himself.
Died without possessions.

Advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)

Was crucified himself.

According to his followers:
Had others give their lives for him.
(Sahih Muslim 4413)

According to his followers:
Gave his life for others.
(John 18:11 and elsewhere)

Whay bible are you referring to.The one which has been changed, modified and full of mistakes.

What God would make a Book full of mistakes?

What God produces a book full of contradictions?

Im not going to go through every point cause i will be here for hours.

Of course jesus was a peaceful man, just like Mohammed was in his first 10 years of islam, he never retaliated or hurt anybody, he was pushed, punished and abused so hard by the jews and christians that after 10 years of prophet Mohamed taking a beating from the jews and christians, he was thus ordered to fight.Maybe if the jews and christians didnt resort to violence then he wouldnt of needed to defend himself.

Just like when jesus comes back to earth, do you think he will come down with flowers? He will come down with a sword and he will lead a war like no other war and he will kill those who disbeleive in him. So yes, jesus was not given a directive from his creator to retaliate, but he will when he comes back.

And Mohamed had multiple wives and jesus didnt?Boo hoo.When he comes back jesus will have get married and have childrem.Many prophets had multiple wives, prophet solomon had 100's of wives.

Look what the bible says about adultery, both should be killed

Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.

Leviticus 20:10 - And the man that committeth adultery with [another] man's wife, [even he] that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Radical Plato on April 22, 2013, 05:54:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gwcuG2jb9k


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Radical Plato on April 22, 2013, 06:08:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INll6Y5iqbM


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Man of Steel on April 22, 2013, 06:09:23 AM
Fellas c'mon, my delete post button is starting to wear out.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Radical Plato on April 22, 2013, 06:17:10 AM
Fellas c'mon, my delete post button is starting to wear out.
It's not because of me, I never report a post, I believe in freedom of speech and expression.  I believe by only allowing one side of the argument to be presented, as Muslims want, is a form of deliberate deception (a speciality of Muslims), it is a deliberate attempt to monopolise and propagandise their agenda of brainwashing naive individuals.  We are talking about people who would do absolutely anything to defeat the infidel.  I have already received violent threats from a-ahmed.  But I just ignore them, I expect nothing less from someone who worships a terrorist.

 Surely violent threats would be of more of a concern than hurting a sensitive man's feelings, but I am used to people submitting to Muslims threats and protecting the Muslim rather than the victims of their evil ideology.  Muslims get away with committing all sorts of atrocities, while those who stand firm against them not only have to endure death threats and the fear of violence, they are also condemned for daring to stand against them.  The Pakistani ex muslim who made the above documentary "The Innocent prophet" who lives in exile in Spain was persecuted by the Spanish Government for making the film.  He was told under no uncertain terms  by the Spanish Police that he shouldn't have messed with the Islamists, because now they have to raise their terror level and the threat of violence increased dramatically.  Do you know why ISLAM uses terrorism so often?, because it works.  When countries or individuals give in to their ridiculous demands because of FEAR, it only sends the message to Muslims that their terror tactic is working.



Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Radical Plato on April 22, 2013, 06:36:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwK7VRkbGiU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxlO7DLC6p8


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Radical Plato on April 22, 2013, 06:45:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAejyp6IUj0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfJ6FpabknY


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Man of Steel on April 22, 2013, 07:06:22 AM
It's not because of me, I never report a post, I believe in freedom of speech and expression.  I believe by only allowing one side of the argument to be presented, as Muslims want, is a form of deliberate deception (a speciality of Muslims), it is a deliberate attempt to monopolise and propagandise their agenda of brainwashing naive individuals.  We are talking about people who would do absolutely anything to defeat the infidel.  I have already received violent threats from a-ahmed.  But I just ignore them, I expect nothing less from someone who worships a terrorist.

 Surely violent threats would be of more of a concern than hurting a sensitive man's feelings, but I am used to people submitting to Muslims threats and protecting the Muslim rather than the victims of their evil ideology.  Muslims get away with committing all sorts of atrocities, while those who stand firm against them not only have to endure death threats and the fear of violence, they are also condemned for daring to stand against them.  The Pakistani ex muslim who made the above documentary "The Innocent prophet" who lives in exile in Spain was persecuted by the Spanish Government for making the film.  He was told under no uncertain terms  by the Spanish Police that he shouldn't have messed with the Islamists, because now they have to raise their terror level and the threat of violence increased dramatically.  Do you know why ISLAM uses terrorism so often?, because it works.  When countries or individuals give in to their ridiculous demands because of FEAR, it only sends the message to Muslims that their terror tactic is working.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb1c9oLgWPw

My main concern is healthy discussion that doesn't break Ron's rules and I don't have a problem with both sides of a view being expressed.  It's my personal desire that personal attacks and inflammatory language be left of the board, but I simply can't control it. 

I did remove the exchange your referring to yesterday, but it's since been reposted in this thread or perhaps already was reposted and I didn't know it. 

Maybe to ease things a bit (if possible) we give you your own thread as Butterbean suggested?  Perhaps you stick to your thread and ahmed to his thread and both sides of the equation are expressed? 



Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Thick Nick on April 22, 2013, 10:00:57 AM
Whay bible are you referring to.The one which has been changed, modified and full of mistakes.

What God would make a Book full of mistakes?

What God produces a book full of contradictions?

Im not going to go through every point cause i will be here for hours.

Of course jesus was a peaceful man, just like Mohammed was in his first 10 years of islam, he never retaliated or hurt anybody, he was pushed, punished and abused so hard by the jews and christians that after 10 years of prophet Mohamed taking a beating from the jews and christians, he was thus ordered to fight.Maybe if the jews and christians didnt resort to violence then he wouldnt of needed to defend himself.

Just like when jesus comes back to earth, do you think he will come down with flowers? He will come down with a sword and he will lead a war like no other war and he will kill those who disbeleive in him. So yes, jesus was not given a directive from his creator to retaliate, but he will when he comes back.

And Mohamed had multiple wives and jesus didnt?Boo hoo.When he comes back jesus will have get married and have childrem.Many prophets had multiple wives, prophet solomon had 100's of wives.

Look what the bible says about adultery, both should be killed

Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.

Leviticus 20:10 - And the man that committeth adultery with [another] man's wife, [even he] that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.



I spit coffee out of my nose over maybe if the jews and Christians didn't resort to violence comment. Stingray you are gaining ground on Assmed in the delusional since someone else did it first... Whatever the devil cult does is fine. It's priceless comedy... Really.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: stingray on April 22, 2013, 01:35:48 PM

I spit coffee out of my nose over maybe if the jews and Christians didn't resort to violence comment. Stingray you are gaining ground on Assmed in the delusional since someone else did it first... Whatever the devil cult does is fine. It's priceless comedy... Really.

Instead of judging me by the one post you do here a week maybe you should interact with us more.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Radical Plato on April 22, 2013, 03:15:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUJU7hKiuZk


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: AR.2007 on April 22, 2013, 07:41:13 PM
There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger.



Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: AR.2007 on April 22, 2013, 08:05:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQFrovc_1G0

ha, typical. Go ahead, mock us.

remember they mocked Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Mohammad(peace be upon them) aswell.

Love, Goodness alwas beats evil and hatred.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Radical Plato on April 22, 2013, 11:17:16 PM
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Love, Goodness alwas beats evil and hatred.
No it doesn't, otherwise there would be no ISLAM, no terrorists and peace on earth.  That's why moderate Islam is irrelevant, it's the HATERS (extremists) that win the day.  The others can hold love-ins all they like, that doesn't help the victims one bit.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Man of Steel on April 23, 2013, 05:46:32 AM
No it doesn't, otherwise there would be no ISLAM, no terrorists and peace on earth.  That's why moderate Islam is irrelevant, it's the HATERS (extremists) that win the day.  The others can hold love-ins all they like, that doesn't help the victims one bit.

You make a relevant point, but I think it's applicable to any extremist/fringe sect that doesn't truly represent the group or faith they claim to associate with.  

You can review the prisons of southern US states and will probably find that African-Americans make up the majority of the population in some states.  Should we then eliminate the African-American population altogether in order to avoid the criminal element?  Certainly extremists draw the most attention from media....it's make for good news!  And unfortunately, the extremists also take the most lives and inflict the most damage.  Look at the Westboro Baptists that hold protests carrying signs saying "God says kill the queers!!"  Is this behavior truly representative of our Lord Jesus Christ?  LOL, no.  Still, Christians and Christian leadership can't simply dismiss this church and sweep it under the rug....there needs to be a level of accountability.  Why doesn't leadership within the Southern Baptist Convention pay a vist to Westboro leadership and a have a "come to Jesus" meeting.  We have religious leaders in positions of power that may not fully understand the theology they teach and preach.  In the same sense we have practicing physicians today that finished medical school with a barely passing grade point average.  

We have certain associations or faiths that continually breed extremists sects.  Instead of simply dismissing the extremists and defending the remaining core of non-extremists why not be accountable, take action and begin reviewing how folks are educated witin the particular association or faith beginning with the youngest member all the way to the most senior members.  Perhaps there’s a need for revision somewhere in the process LOL!

I read the following article and I both agree and disagree with it….so take it for what it’s worth:

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/04/the-boston-bombers-were-muslim-so/275154/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/04/the-boston-bombers-were-muslim-so/275154/)  


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Radical Plato on April 23, 2013, 06:02:31 AM
You make a relevant point, but I think it's applicable to any extremist/fringe sect that doesn't truly represent the group or faith they claim to associate with. 

You can review the prisons of southern US states and will probably find that African-Americans make up the majority of the population in some states.  Should we then eliminate the African-American population altogether in order to avoid the criminal element?  Certainly extremists draw the most attention from media....it's make for good news!  And unfortunately, the extremists also take the most lives and inflict the most damage.  Look at the Westboro Baptists that hold protests carrying signs saying "God says kill the queers!!"  Is this behavior truly representative of our Lord Jesus Christ?  LOL, no.  Still, Christians and Christian leadership can't simply dismiss this church and sweep it under the rug....there needs to be a level of accountability.  Why doesn't leadership within the Southern Baptist Convention pay a vist to Westboro leadership and a have a "come to Jesus" meeting.  We have religious leaders in positions of power that may not fully understand the theology they teach and preach.  In the same sense we have practicing physicians today that finished medical school with a barely passing grade point average.   

We have certain associations or faiths that continually breed extremists sects.  Instead of simply dismissing the extremists and defending the remaining core of non-extremists why not be accountable, take action and begin reviewing how folks are educated witin the particular association or faith beginning with the youngest member all the way to the most senior members.  Perhaps there’s a need for revision somewhere in the process LOL!

I read the following article and I both agree and disagree with it….so take it for what it’s worth:

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/04/the-boston-bombers-were-muslim-so/275154/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/04/the-boston-bombers-were-muslim-so/275154/)  

I'm not quite sure what you are getting at, but it does amaze me how often people raise the black crime issue.  I have always seen it not as an indication that blacks commit more crimes, but that the whites are in power and they are racist and more likely to arrest and incarcerate black people.  So rather than be a negative reflection on the black man, I have always seen it as a negative reflection on the white man.  After emancipation, the white man had to find new ways to keep the blacks enslaved.  I am sure if blacks were the majority and in power and the whites the minority, the jails would be full of white people.  I see the issue as more of an abuse of power issue, as well as rampant racism and not an indication that blacks commit more crimes.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: a_ahmed on April 23, 2013, 08:03:04 AM
No it doesn't, otherwise there would be no ISLAM, no terrorists and peace on earth.  That's why moderate Islam is irrelevant, it's the HATERS (extremists) that win the day.  The others can hold love-ins all they like, that doesn't help the victims one bit.

And what are you? A hater. An atheist extremist. Blind by and of his own hate


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Radical Plato on April 23, 2013, 11:43:02 AM
And what are you? A hater. An atheist extremist. Blind by and of his own hate
If hating HATE GROUPS like ISLAM makes me a HATER, then call me a HATER.  This seems to be the common tactic of HATE GROUPS is to accuse everyone else of being a HATER.  It's the equivalent of a victim finally standing up to his bully, smacking him in the mouth and then people calling him a Bully.  It's ludicrous, he's the anti-bully.  The very reason I oppose ISLAM is because it is a HATE GROUP, and to watch this HATE GROUP spread it's HATE everywhere it exists, to see innocent people die, to see large numbers of people oppressed, to witness the regular terrorism, the lies, the deceit that this group participates in.  It's devastating.  Just even the way Muslims regularly accuse those who oppose them as being full of HATE, it's despicable.  it's like the KKK accusing anyone who opposes them as being RACIST, it is totally disingenuous.  It just adds to the many reasons why ISLAM is despised.

The reality is, a feel sorry for any Muslim, as they are the very first VICTIMS of ISLAM, they have been undeniably Hurt by ISLAM, and what do HURT people do, they usually HURT other people.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: a_ahmed on April 23, 2013, 11:52:56 AM
lol I feel sorry for your state of mind. You are absolutely blinded by your hate and rage. You are going around inciting violence and hate, and then people tolerate you and I did until the point where you advocate or congratulate genocide. But ironically no one is going around inciting hate and violence like you are. You just keep repeating your own lies to yourself in hope of convincing yourself. All you've been doing in this section is posting your hate about islam and Muslims and from time to time about Christians and theists/religion in general while trying to play two faced when it suits you.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Radical Plato on April 23, 2013, 12:14:00 PM
lol I feel sorry for your state of mind. You are absolutely blinded by your hate and rage. You are going around inciting violence and hate, and then people tolerate you and I did until the point where you advocate or congratulate genocide. But ironically no one is going around inciting hate and violence like you are. You just keep repeating your own lies to yourself in hope of convincing yourself. All you've been doing in this section is posting your hate about islam and Muslims and from time to time about Christians and theists/religion in general while trying to play two faced when it suits you.
Like I said, your denial of what ISLAM stands for is one of the reasons why Muslims aren't liked, I am not sure if you actually believe ISLAM is this perfect belief system or you are aware of what others say about it being TRUE, but you have been taught to never question or critically analyse information.  Because if you can't be honest with yourself, I can't expect you to be honest with others.  To pretend that innocent people aren't dying BECAUSE of ISLAM is deeply offensive, but I have come to expect Muslims to be offensive.  It took me a while, but once I realised what they stood for, it made perfect sense that they were so often offensive, it's part of their religion to be that way, for a Muslim being offensive equals being a good Muslim.

I still remember the first time I witnessed Muslims taking to the street threatening to BEHEAD people, I remember being alarmed how these people had no idea how psychopathic it was, to travel to a country, and then take to the streets and ridicule your hosts, threaten to kill them and slander them.  It truly was an eye opener.  And not one of these people had any idea what they were doing was deeply morally wrong.  I knew then that ISLAM was not a normal religion, anybody who could so openly behave in such a dangerous manner, a provocative way and think that is was normal behaviour was possibly beyond help.  And these weren't extremists, these were just moderate Muslims, taking a day off work to terrorise other people as they went about their work day.

You can continue your jihad against the infidels, rather than seeing the Muslim race dominate the World, it will only lead to ISLAM's demise.  of this I have no doubt.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: a_ahmed on April 23, 2013, 12:23:21 PM
Dude you're the only one in mental issue denial. What denial? What the hell kind of drugs are you on man? I know my religion. You clearly don't and are raging and raging over and over again about it.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Radical Plato on April 23, 2013, 01:19:50 PM
Dude you're the only one in mental issue denial. What denial? What the hell kind of drugs are you on man? I know my religion. You clearly don't and are raging and raging over and over again about it.
You only know a biased one sided version of it, you seem to fail to understand the way it is viewed from a larger perspective, you live in a bubble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogSPi77JdK8


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Man of Steel on April 24, 2013, 10:32:24 AM
I'm not quite sure what you are getting at, but it does amaze me how often people raise the black crime issue.  I have always seen it not as an indication that blacks commit more crimes, but that the whites are in power and they are racist and more likely to arrest and incarcerate black people.  So rather than be a negative reflection on the black man, I have always seen it as a negative reflection on the white man.  After emancipation, the white man had to find new ways to keep the blacks enslaved.  I am sure if blacks were the majority and in power and the whites the minority, the jails would be full of white people.  I see the issue as more of an abuse of power issue, as well as rampant racism and not an indication that blacks commit more crimes.
Redd Foxx addressed this issue years ago.....hey it was 70s primetime tv in the US.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HQiqvwQ5Xk


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: loco on May 07, 2013, 04:24:25 AM
copied from another forum:
Study shows the more devout a Muslim the more violent he becomes, and the more devout a Christian, the more peaceful he becomes

In this study and presentation shown in the video, it was discovered that the more devout a Muslim becomes, the more violent he becomes.

The opposite, was discovered with Christians. That the more devout a Christian, the more peaceful he becomes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBcomAcJhtQ

Why is this?

A devout Muslim, will more closely follow the examples of their prophet Muhammad. And a devout Christian, will more closely follow the examples of Jesus.

Muhammad vs Jesus

Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam.
(Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38)

Said God loves everyone.
(John 3:16)

"I have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
is the messenger of Allah"
(Muslim 1:33)

"He who lives by the sword
will die by the sword."
(Matthew 26:52)

Stoned women for adultery.
(Muslim 4206)

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
(John 8:7)

Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)

"Thou shalt not steal."
(Matthew 19:18)

Permitted lying.
(Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)

"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
(Matthew 19:18)

Owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)

Neither owned nor traded slaves.

Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Sahih Muslim 4390)

Beheaded no one.

Murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)

Preached forgiveness.
(Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)

"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"
(Qur'an 2:194)

"If someone strikes you on the right
cheek, turn to him the other also."
(Matthew 5:39)

Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
(Muslim 4645)

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for
they will be called Sons of God"
(Matthew 5:9)

Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)

Was celibate.

Slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)

Did not have sex with children.

Ordered the murder of women.
(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)

Never harmed a woman.

"O you who believe! Fight those of the
unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness."
(Qur'an 9:123)

"Blessed are the meek, for
they shall inherit the earth."
(Matthew 5:5)

Ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )

Ordered no military campaigns, nor
offered any approval of war or violence.

Killed captives taken in battle.
(Ibn Ishaq 451)

Never took captives.
Never killed anyone.

Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)

Never encouraged rape.
Never enslaved women.

Demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Qur'an 8:41)

"The Son of Man came not
to be served, but to serve."
(Matthew 20:28)

Was never tortured, but tortured others.
(Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)

Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.

"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"
(Qur'an 8:39)

"Love your enemies and pray
for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5:44)

Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man
(al-Tabari 1440)

Healed a blind man
(Mark 8:28)

Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
from which he preached Islam.
(Bukhari 47:743)

Washed his disciples feet.
(John 13:5)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause"
(Muslim 1:149)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself."
(Matthew 22:34-40)

Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship
(Qur'an 4:102)

Chastised anyone attempting
to defend him with force.
(John 18:10-12)

Died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or
demanded from others in tribute.

Demanded nothing for himself.
Died without possessions.

Advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)

Was crucified himself.

According to his followers:
Had others give their lives for him.
(Sahih Muslim 4413)

According to his followers:
Gave his life for others.
(John 18:11 and elsewhere)

Good thread, good thread.   :)


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: _bruce_ on May 07, 2013, 04:51:57 AM
It's a cult hell bent on pushing their agenda.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Radical Plato on May 07, 2013, 05:11:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZYD1el_Jfg



Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Man of Steel on May 07, 2013, 10:49:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZYD1el_Jfg



LOL, well if Joe Rogan said it......... ;D ;)


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: stingray on May 07, 2013, 06:30:50 PM
The more corrupt a people, the more they are violent

It is a fairly retarded idea to have women in the military, and you would have to wonder whether any women who would join the US military is mentally ill or totally ignorant or a complete fool. However, 71 rapes per day is an indictment on US culture. Sick! THese are not the people we should be emulating. People must be warned against their decadent corrupting culture.
 
Sex assualt charges for top anti-sex assault officer
 
Washington: The US Air Force's top officer for sexual-assault prevention has been arrested on charges of sexual battery, prompting his removal from the post even as the Pentagon prepares to report as many as 26,000 attacks last year.
 
Lieutenant Colonel Jeffrey Krusinski, 41, was arrested on May 5 in the Washington suburb of Arlington, Virginia, where he allegedly "approached a female victim in a parking lot and grabbed her breasts and buttocks," according to an Arlington County police report. Efforts to locate Mr Krusinski for comment weren't successful.
 
The arrest provides "dramatic evidence of the need for the Department of Defence to act swiftly and decisively to address the plague of sexual assaults in the military," Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat, said Tuesday at a hearing in Washington.
 
The Defence Department plans to release its annual report on sexual assaults, an event that each year prompts criticism from lawmakers and victims' advocacy groups and pledges by the Pentagon to do better.
 
The study will show 3374 reported cases of assault in 2012, a 5.7 percent increase from the previous year, according to a statement from Senators Patty Murray, a Washington Democrat, and Kelly Ayotte, a New Hampshire Republican.
 
Such reported assaults are dwarfed by the number of cases that go unreported. Victims have said they're afraid of coming forward, partly because they feared a risk to their career.
 
The Pentagon has previously estimated 19,000 such incidents occur each year in the military, based on anonymous surveys of the active-duty force. Today's report estimates that as many as 26,000 assaults occurred last year, an average of 71 incidents per day, according to the senators.
 
Senators Ayotte and Murray introduced legislation Tuesdayt that they said would make it easier to prosecute assault cases. It includes a procedure already used by the Air Force to provide a Special Victims' Counsel who can assist assault victims throughout the legal process.
 
Senator Levin, the committee chairman, said he plans to include legislation on sexual assault as part of this year's annual defence authorisation bill, as early as next month.
 
Responding to Mr Krusinski's arrest, Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel "expressed outrage and disgust over the troubling allegations and emphasised that this matter will be dealt with swiftly and decisively," George Little, a Pentagon spokesman, said in a statement.
 
Mr Hagel, who discussed the arrest Monday with Air Force Secretary Michael Donley, will soon announce the "next steps in our ongoing effort to combat this vile crime," according to Mr Little.
 
Mr Krusinski, who had served as chief of the Air Force's Sexual Assault Prevention and Response branch since February, was removed from the job pending an investigation, according to an Air Force statement. He was released after posting a $US5000 bond, according to Dustin Sternbeck, an Arlington County police spokesman.
 
"It is unacceptable that this occurs anywhere at any time in our Air Force and we will not quit working on this problem," General Mark Welsh, the Air Force chief of staff, said today at Levin's hearing.
 
Nancy Parrish, president of Protect Our Defenders, a victim-support group, said in a statement that Mr Krusinski's arrest "is one more example on a long list of how fundamentally broken the military justice system and culture are."
 
The Air Force is still reeling from a scandal in which at least five military instructors were convicted of sexual assaults or unprofessional relationships with trainees or students at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas.
 
An investigation of the Lackland case identified 23 alleged offenders and 48 alleged victims.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: stingray on May 07, 2013, 06:34:53 PM

History shows Jews and Christians killed more Muslims than Muslims killed Jews and Christians

I must begin by saying I am among those who firmly believe that any planned killing by a nation state or political group is motivated not by religion, but by power politics.
 
Given this qualification, historical facts tell us that Jews and Christians have, tragically, killed many more Muslims than the other way around. Now this assertion may seem to go against the current tide of public opinion, but a little basic research will prove the point.
 
Let us start with some facts related to the Jewish people, in particular those who espouse Zionism. Zionism is a political ideology based on carving out a Jews-only nation state in Palestine using any means necessary, including many forms of violence. During the 1800s, Zionism was supported by about 10% of Jews; today, however, this ideology is upheld by some 90% of Jews worldwide.
 
Despite the strong objection of Arab natives, boatloads of European Jewish immigrants arrived to settle in historic Palestinian lands. Completely disregarding the existing indigenous populations, these Jewish newcomers were supplied with military-style arms and equipment to displace the natives by force. By 1948, they had established their exclusive nation state -- but only after killing some 15,000 native Palestinians, mostly Muslims.
 
In 1956 Israel, along with Britain and France, attacked Egypt. More than 3,000 Egyptians -- again, mostly Muslims -- were killed. Then in 1967 (the infamous Six-Day War) another 20,000 Arabs -- Egyptians, Syrians and Palestinians, mostly Muslims -- were killed by Israel.
 
In 1973 Israel killed more than 18,000 Arabs in Egypt and Syria and since then, the bloodbath has continued, decade after decade. During the past 20 years more than 5,000 Muslims have died violently in Israel proper, in the Occupied Palestinian West Bank, in Gaza and in Lebanon (remember Qana?). As this is being written, Israel has been shelling northern Gaza every day.
 
All this killing adds up to one horrific thing -- a long-term planned ethnic cleansing of all Palestinians (Christian and Muslim) in order to maintain the created Jewish nation state of Israel. In the process, more than 60,000 Muslims have lost their lives, as compared to less than 10,000 Jews.
 
Before the Zionists arbitrarily chose Palestine, Jews living in Arab and the Muslim countries enjoyed not only fair humane treatment, but in fact acquired considerable wealth and prestige; many of them even held high government positions. When Jews were persecuted during the Spanish Inquisition sponsored by the Christian Church, they found new homes in Turkey and North Africa, where Muslims accepted them. And during the Russian pogroms, the Muslims of Central Asian countries again took in and protected the persecuted Jewish refugees.
 
But when the Jews built their own nation state, they did not return the good deeds done on their behalf by Muslims through the ages. Instead, they subjected Palestinians to cruel and inhumane treatment, as well as oppressing the native populations of Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, Tunisia, and now Iraq and Iran, through direct or indirect aggression. So much for paying back a favour.
 
Now, Muslims feel they are paying the heavy price of Western guilt over Europe's past mistreatment of Jews. Not even one UN statement against Israeli aggression has been allowed to pass!
 
For more than half a century, Palestinians have endured, and still endure, one of the most brutal racist occupation forces in modern history. Recent events following the free democratic election of a Hamas government in the West Bank have shown just how ruthless and intolerant this racist Israeli occupation is. The Knesset has held back the transfer of legitimate Palestinian taxes, refusing to give the new government its own money, and thereby starving the native population.
 
The Apartheid security wall, built to "protect" Jewish settlements, has been forcibly constructed on expropriated West Bank Palestinian lands, making life hell-on-earth for local natives who are cut off from their farms, market gardens, olive orchards, schools, jobs, etc. Instead of ending the occupation, Israel is using its military might (supported by the West) to even further suppress the Palestinians. All this has been inflicted with total disregard for the values of justice and peace, as taught by all mainstream religions -- including Judaism.
 
As for Christians killing Muslims, that started back in the Middle Ages with the Crusades, followed by the Spanish Inquisition, and the colonial era in which European imperial powers occupied Muslim lands from Indonesia to Morocco, including India and the Middle East. More recently, Iraq and Afghanistan have been occupied by American-led coalitions that still promote so-called Christian values. Millions more Arabs and Muslims have been killed.
 
If Jews, Christians and Muslims were adherents of any other religion the results would have been the same, for all three Abrahamic peoples "of the Book" have been detoured from their faith by the worst excesses of political power-grabbing and war-mongering. Thus, the tragic political results and the mass killings would have been much the same. And this explains why today many Jews try to smear Islam and bash Muslims, not only Palestinians. Such acts have nothing to do with religion, but everything to do with a group of people who were, and are, determined to establish a nation state by any means necessary, regardless of the cost to those who get in their way.
 
Could these same three religions help to solve the ongoing conflict? Absolutely, yes -- but the key is to work harder than ever to bring about peace through justice. And the responsibility for creating a climate of positive options belongs to the most powerful side in any conflict – the aggressor.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 07, 2013, 07:15:09 PM
Muslims on getbig should really follow the lead of cool headed intelligent guys like Sherief Shalaby.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: stingray on May 07, 2013, 09:56:11 PM
Muslims on getbig should really follow the lead of cool headed intelligent guys like Sherief Shalaby.

He is cool headed cause he doesnt have to deal with maniacs like you.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: loco on May 08, 2013, 12:26:12 AM
Funny how getbig Muslims rarely source their material.    :)


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: polychronopolous on May 08, 2013, 01:02:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZYD1el_Jfg



Great video. Always cool to listen to Joe's take on stuff.

He gets way out there with some of the things he says but for the mos part he is telling the truth.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Radical Plato on May 08, 2013, 01:11:16 AM
How on Earth anyone can participate in this evil medieval religion called Islam is beyond me.  Now they went to hang the atheists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uuTqYCKte8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiIT0aOJ7sM


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: stingray on May 08, 2013, 02:55:21 AM
How on Earth can a person beleive in a religion who participate in the killing of prophets of God is beyond me.

Prophet Mohamed-killed by a jew

Prophet jesus killed by his own people.

Prophet zakariah-killed by his own flock

And countless prophets murdered for informing the people to the right path.


Matthew 23

You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: loco on May 08, 2013, 04:27:14 AM
Antisemitic post reported.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Man of Steel on May 08, 2013, 04:32:26 AM
LOL time to go check email for reported posts.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Thick Nick on May 08, 2013, 04:33:24 AM
History shows Jews and Christians killed more Muslims than Muslims killed Jews and Christians

I must begin by saying I am among those who firmly believe that any planned killing by a nation state or political group is motivated not by religion, but by power politics.
 
Given this qualification, historical facts tell us that Jews and Christians have, tragically, killed many more Muslims than the other way around. Now this assertion may seem to go against the current tide of public opinion, but a little basic research will prove the point.
 
Let us start with some facts related to the Jewish people, in particular those who espouse Zionism. Zionism is a political ideology based on carving out a Jews-only nation state in Palestine using any means necessary, including many forms of violence. During the 1800s, Zionism was supported by about 10% of Jews; today, however, this ideology is upheld by some 90% of Jews worldwide.
 
Despite the strong objection of Arab natives, boatloads of European Jewish immigrants arrived to settle in historic Palestinian lands. Completely disregarding the existing indigenous populations, these Jewish newcomers were supplied with military-style arms and equipment to displace the natives by force. By 1948, they had established their exclusive nation state -- but only after killing some 15,000 native Palestinians, mostly Muslims.
 
In 1956 Israel, along with Britain and France, attacked Egypt. More than 3,000 Egyptians -- again, mostly Muslims -- were killed. Then in 1967 (the infamous Six-Day War) another 20,000 Arabs -- Egyptians, Syrians and Palestinians, mostly Muslims -- were killed by Israel.
 
In 1973 Israel killed more than 18,000 Arabs in Egypt and Syria and since then, the bloodbath has continued, decade after decade. During the past 20 years more than 5,000 Muslims have died violently in Israel proper, in the Occupied Palestinian West Bank, in Gaza and in Lebanon (remember Qana?). As this is being written, Israel has been shelling northern Gaza every day.
 
All this killing adds up to one horrific thing -- a long-term planned ethnic cleansing of all Palestinians (Christian and Muslim) in order to maintain the created Jewish nation state of Israel. In the process, more than 60,000 Muslims have lost their lives, as compared to less than 10,000 Jews.
 
Before the Zionists arbitrarily chose Palestine, Jews living in Arab and the Muslim countries enjoyed not only fair humane treatment, but in fact acquired considerable wealth and prestige; many of them even held high government positions. When Jews were persecuted during the Spanish Inquisition sponsored by the Christian Church, they found new homes in Turkey and North Africa, where Muslims accepted them. And during the Russian pogroms, the Muslims of Central Asian countries again took in and protected the persecuted Jewish refugees.
 
But when the Jews built their own nation state, they did not return the good deeds done on their behalf by Muslims through the ages. Instead, they subjected Palestinians to cruel and inhumane treatment, as well as oppressing the native populations of Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, Tunisia, and now Iraq and Iran, through direct or indirect aggression. So much for paying back a favour.
 
Now, Muslims feel they are paying the heavy price of Western guilt over Europe's past mistreatment of Jews. Not even one UN statement against Israeli aggression has been allowed to pass!
 
For more than half a century, Palestinians have endured, and still endure, one of the most brutal racist occupation forces in modern history. Recent events following the free democratic election of a Hamas government in the West Bank have shown just how ruthless and intolerant this racist Israeli occupation is. The Knesset has held back the transfer of legitimate Palestinian taxes, refusing to give the new government its own money, and thereby starving the native population.
 
The Apartheid security wall, built to "protect" Jewish settlements, has been forcibly constructed on expropriated West Bank Palestinian lands, making life hell-on-earth for local natives who are cut off from their farms, market gardens, olive orchards, schools, jobs, etc. Instead of ending the occupation, Israel is using its military might (supported by the West) to even further suppress the Palestinians. All this has been inflicted with total disregard for the values of justice and peace, as taught by all mainstream religions -- including Judaism.
 
As for Christians killing Muslims, that started back in the Middle Ages with the Crusades, followed by the Spanish Inquisition, and the colonial era in which European imperial powers occupied Muslim lands from Indonesia to Morocco, including India and the Middle East. More recently, Iraq and Afghanistan have been occupied by American-led coalitions that still promote so-called Christian values. Millions more Arabs and Muslims have been killed.
 
If Jews, Christians and Muslims were adherents of any other religion the results would have been the same, for all three Abrahamic peoples "of the Book" have been detoured from their faith by the worst excesses of political power-grabbing and war-mongering. Thus, the tragic political results and the mass killings would have been much the same. And this explains why today many Jews try to smear Islam and bash Muslims, not only Palestinians. Such acts have nothing to do with religion, but everything to do with a group of people who were, and are, determined to establish a nation state by any means necessary, regardless of the cost to those who get in their way.
 
Could these same three religions help to solve the ongoing conflict? Absolutely, yes -- but the key is to work harder than ever to bring about peace through justice. And the responsibility for creating a climate of positive options belongs to the most powerful side in any conflict – the aggressor.



Convenient you left out Muslim killing Muslim you ass clown.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: AR.2007 on May 13, 2013, 08:53:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr-lJK494qY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C8V7hqv3AE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HboAii4jILM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo35l6mhosk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5oQFitU5H0

there ya go, listen and educate youself. Ignorance is deadly, too bad most here talk much listen/read little.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Rhino on July 28, 2013, 01:30:00 AM
I always wanted to see a moderate Islam and progression into the modern world.
 Islam was always in my heart and I would be lying if I said there's still nothing left in my heart.
I left because of all these radicals and people who declare that there's no moderation here.
Ahmed was the straw that broke the camels back. I mean at times I think ahmed should be commited and put in the loony bin.
Ahmed helped me come to my final decision to leave Islam.
But I was still on the fence about it. I would have never jumped. I needed a push. Then low and behold... Jesus came to me from all directions. I knew right then and there that I was a born again Christian. And whenever a doubt crosses my mind... I read something that tells me I made the right choice. I just read that there's a revival in Islam and Jesus is coming to people in dreams. This is happening because Jesus walks the Earth and to reject him would be foolish.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Rhino on July 28, 2013, 01:42:44 AM

Convenient you left out Muslim killing Muslim you ass clown.
to the guy who left out muslims killing muslims: ignorance... Pure ignorance. Sadam hussain has the record for killing most muslims by one person as far as I know.
No one has killed more muslims than other muslims. No one kills more muslims than muslims now or then.
Pakistan killed how many bangali people in the 1970's... 5 million or more? And the occupying army used rape as a tactic. They were islamist. I know this because my g.f. Is Bangali and they still hold a grudge with Pakistan :(
The list of muslim killing muslim is endless and would go on forever. On an ignorant person is not aware of all the conflict and I think you to be smater than that /:


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Rhino on July 28, 2013, 10:35:42 AM
How on Earth can a person beleive in a religion who participate in the killing of prophets of God is beyond me.

Prophet Mohamed-killed by a jew

Prophet jesus killed by his own people.

Prophet zakariah-killed by his own flock

And countless prophets murdered for informing the people to the right path.


Matthew 23

You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.


Title: Re: Study, More devout a Muslim the more violent, opposite of Christianity
Post by: Rhino on July 28, 2013, 10:38:31 AM
How on Earth can a person beleive in a religion who participate in the killing of prophets of God is beyond me.

Prophet Mohamed-killed by a jew

Prophet jesus killed by his own people.

Prophet zakariah-killed by his own flock

And countless prophets murdered for informing the people to the right path.


Matthew 23

You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.