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Title: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: Dave Czech on April 30, 2013, 11:50:30 AM
how much do andreas cardio?running  :)
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 30, 2013, 11:56:00 AM
I think you mean "how much was andreas running", right?
Here's an estimation,

Quote
Weeks 1-10
ephedrine
aspirin
clenbuterol
valium
captagon-- scheduled 1 drug in the US, meaning no legitimate medical use-- it is an amphetamine-type stimulant--
cytomel

Weeks 1-5
500mg daily of test enanthate
152mg daily of parabolan
150mg daily of dianabol
150mg daily of halotestin
20 IU daily of HGH
20 IU daily of Insulin

Weeks 6-8
300mg daily of masteron
152mg daily of parabolan
250mg daily of winstrol tabs
150mg daily of halotestin
50mg daily of winstrol inj
24 IU daily of HGH

Weeks 9-10
200mg daily of masteron
100mg daily of winny inj
200mg daily of halotestin
400mg daily of winny tabs
24 IU daily of HGH
Insulin daily
IGF-1 daily

Days 1-3 leading up to show
aldactone, lasix
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: mass243 on April 30, 2013, 11:59:26 AM

Low pace cardio before breakfast is largely believed to have been the factor behind his superior condition.
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: doison on April 30, 2013, 12:04:31 PM
Hi Dave.  You have been missed.
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: Hulkotron on April 30, 2013, 12:05:50 PM
Sweet potatoes in the hotel microwave.
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: arce1988 on April 30, 2013, 12:47:16 PM
  I know people that run 18 and 36 i.u. per day   
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 30, 2013, 12:48:04 PM
how much do andreas cardio?running  :)


He ran a lot on the beach with his dog...indeterminate amount of time
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 30, 2013, 12:52:02 PM
  I know people that run 18 and 36 i.u. per day   

Those folks are pathetic...
Alexey Lesukov, Steve Namat and Dorian Yates have one thing in common, they all claimed running 5-6iu max
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: affeman on April 30, 2013, 12:52:09 PM

He ran a lot on the beach with his dog...indeterminate amount of time

10:50

You wanna call this "running"?? lmao

Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: arce1988 on April 30, 2013, 12:57:16 PM
sissy schwarz is hot
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 30, 2013, 01:01:45 PM
10:50

You wanna call this "running"?? lmao



He's in a dehydrated phase, dumb noob  ::)
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: el numero uno on April 30, 2013, 06:06:14 PM
"The finishing touch" kinda takes a whole new meaning.
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 30, 2013, 06:15:21 PM
He died at like 32 doesnt seem the cardio did him alot of good.
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: hipolito mejia on May 01, 2013, 07:48:24 AM
how much do andreas cardio?running  :)

Diuretics. 
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: dj181 on May 01, 2013, 09:10:29 AM
He died at like 32 doesnt seem the cardio did him alot of good.

cardio is not needed to get ripped, diet is all that it required
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 01, 2013, 09:19:01 AM
cardio is not needed to get ripped, diet is all that it required

Cardio isn't only for burning fat, hence its name
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: dj181 on May 01, 2013, 09:29:35 AM
Cardio isn't only for burning fat, hence its name

true, but many people seem to imply that cardio is a distinct requirement for getting ripped, but it's not
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 01, 2013, 09:41:32 AM
Cardio isn't only for burning fat, hence its name
Exactly. Cardio good for the heart but not required for losing fat only discipline is. Just think if you just ate one candy bar a day would you lose fat?
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 01, 2013, 09:45:00 AM
true, but many people seem to imply that cardio is a distinct requirement for getting ripped, but it's not

That's correct, but this isn't an excuse not to do it. The only 'excuse' would be a physical job.
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: dj181 on May 01, 2013, 10:05:43 AM
That's correct, but this isn't an excuse not to do it. The only 'excuse' would be a physical job.

what do you think about this idea/concept that one gets enough cardio (ie. heart training/conditioning) just from regular resistance training?
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 01, 2013, 10:11:55 AM
what do you think about this idea/concept that one gets enough cardio (ie. heart training/conditioning) just from regular resistance training?

That could function as great cardio, as long as your reps are high (15 or more), your rest periods are limited (up to 30 secs) and by choosing compound exercises like squats, deads, rows, presses, balancing stuff, etc..
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: Dave Czech on May 01, 2013, 10:41:12 AM
which bodybuilders do cardio 3,4 hours every day ?exist
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 01, 2013, 10:45:45 AM
Cardio isn't only for burning fat, hence its name
False.  Any activity burns fat if your body is in a calorie reduced state and needs to find energy sources from your fat stores. 

But people will eat a shit load of carbs or food in general and then do cardio hoping to burn fat which validates your statement.
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 01, 2013, 10:53:21 AM
False.  Any activity burns fat if your body is in a calorie reduced state and needs to find energy sources from your fat stores. 

But people will eat a shit load of carbs or food in general and then do cardio hoping to burn fat which validates your statement.

I wasn't saying that cardio is required to burn fat, I was referring to stamina improvement.
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 01, 2013, 11:22:49 AM
I wasn't saying that cardio is required to burn fat, I was referring to stamina improvement.

I always see idiots drinking shakes before cardio to help "burn fat" which never makes sense.  So they ingest 300 calories to then burn 300 calories?  They get zero effect from it.
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 01, 2013, 11:45:27 AM
I always see idiots drinking shakes before cardio to help "burn fat" which never makes sense.  So they ingest 300 calories to then burn 300 calories?  They get zero effect from it.

LOL, esp when they drink something like a Gatorade
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 01, 2013, 11:48:15 AM
I think he mowed yards.
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on May 01, 2013, 12:44:18 PM
Munzer like conditioning.
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 01, 2013, 12:47:49 PM
what do you think about this idea/concept that one gets enough cardio (ie. heart training/conditioning) just from regular resistance training?

Steady state Low intensity cardio provides some additional heart benefits that regular weight training does not.

That's a good question though, I've asked some old physiology profs this same thing.
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: dj181 on May 01, 2013, 12:51:38 PM
Steady state Low intensity cardio provides some additional heart benefits that regular weight training does not.

That's a good question though, I've asked some old physiology profs this same thing.

are you talking heart health or heart conditioning or both?

and when i say heart conditioning i'm talking with regards to peak athletic performance
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 01, 2013, 12:55:54 PM
are you talking heart health or heart conditioning or both?

and when i say heart conditioning i'm talking with regards to peak athletic performance

Specifically heart HEALTH
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: dj181 on May 01, 2013, 01:01:18 PM
Specifically heart HEALTH

good answer, coz that low intensity cardio don't do jack shit for peak athletic performance, except maybe "active recovery"
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 01, 2013, 01:05:41 PM
good answer, coz that low intensity cardio don't do jack shit for peak athletic performance, except maybe "active recovery"

I'm still a fan, from a bodybuilding perspective. I think low intensity cardio is actually anabolic. Increased blood flow increases nutrient partitioning. Flushes out lactic acid. Theres a ton of benefits. Plus, it makes you hungry! George Farrah believes this as well and applies these principles to his clients.

I really believe every bodybuilder should be doing some cardio almost daily, unless you are one of those gifted freaks who can walk around at 5% year round.
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: NYSTATEOFMIND on May 01, 2013, 05:49:13 PM
George Farrah believes this as well and applies these principles to his clients.


all low intensity cardio there..all low intensity  ::)

(http://steroidjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/the-rock-steroids-3.jpg)
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: hardgainerj on May 01, 2013, 06:34:00 PM
That's correct, but this isn't an excuse not to do it. The only 'excuse' would be a physical job.
which makes BB less of an athletic sport
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 01, 2013, 07:46:29 PM
I always see idiots drinking shakes before cardio to help "burn fat" which never makes sense.  So they ingest 300 calories to then burn 300 calories?  They get zero effect from it.

Yes this is so dumb! Totally ruins your post-lift fat burning environment
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 01, 2013, 07:46:59 PM
all low intensity cardio there..all low intensity  ::)

(http://steroidjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/the-rock-steroids-3.jpg)

Whats your point?
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: NYSTATEOFMIND on May 01, 2013, 08:13:37 PM
Whats your point?

Farah Low intensity cardio preaching is bullshit- thats what
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 01, 2013, 08:35:19 PM
Farah Low intensity cardio preaching is bullshit- thats what

How so? Are you familiar with the 3 energy systems and enzyme kinetics related to them? Or are you just preaching more bro science and "it's all drugs"  ??? Crack a biochemistry book bro.
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 02, 2013, 01:58:34 AM
good answer, coz that low intensity cardio don't do jack shit for peak athletic performance, except maybe "active recovery"

For cardio, I only choose interval programs. You can do the same with weights, but it's harder to control your heart rate zones.
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 02, 2013, 11:43:49 AM
Those folks are pathetic...
Alexey Lesukov, Steve Namat and Dorian Yates have one thing in common, they all claimed running 5-6iu max
claim is the operative word
Title: Re: andreas munzer cardio ?
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 02, 2013, 11:47:47 AM
claim is the operative word

True, but I see no reason why Doz was lying about his Olympia stack, he has no interest in this