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Title: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: dj181 on May 19, 2013, 04:13:26 AM
never done creatine while "on"

so i'm curious if there's a synergistic effect for it while on, and is it worth it and/or a good idea to take it while on cycle?
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: JediTerminator on May 19, 2013, 04:20:44 AM
wondering this myself as I received a kg of it last night for free.

also for free I received a kg of glutamine, a tub of no-xplode, a few servings worth of cellucor c4, 2 tubs of whey, a tin of animal pak vitamins.

guy told me he didn't wanna work out anymore
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: Psychopath on May 19, 2013, 05:45:23 AM
Yes it is.

Steroids increase your skeletal muscles uptake of all nutrients, including creatine.

Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: JediTerminator on May 19, 2013, 05:49:33 AM
Yes it is.

Steroids increase your skeletal muscles uptake of all nutrients, including creatine.



i'd take it amino acids would be very important then
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: Psychopath on May 19, 2013, 05:57:59 AM
i'd take it amino acids would be very important then


No, just eat your protein like usual and you'll be fine. 

Single amino acid supplementation is quite useless, as you need a complete amino acid profile to provide your body with the necessary building blocks.
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: dj181 on May 19, 2013, 06:14:51 AM
creatine monohydrate is the way to go, but is it still a good idea to load it?
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: Psychopath on May 19, 2013, 06:18:20 AM
creatine monohydrate is the way to go, but is it still a good idea to load it?

No, just take 5-10g/day.
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 19, 2013, 11:32:32 AM
Psychopath is dead on. Being on gear will tremendously increase your own body's creatine turnover. But supplementing will help even more as well.
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: deadpan on May 20, 2013, 10:14:29 AM
i never did this personally, seemed like if i'm stressing my kidneys already, why take something that degrades into creatinine, especially since i didn't get much out of it while i was natty.

but you guys seem to think it's synergistic? idunno, might try it. can't stand the way it fucks with my stomach though so maybe not.
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 20, 2013, 10:21:08 AM
i never did this personally, seemed like if i'm stressing my kidneys already, why take something that degrades into creatinine, especially since i didn't get much out of it while i was natty.

but you guys seem to think it's synergistic? idunno, might try it. can't stand the way it fucks with my stomach though so maybe not.

I never experienced any sides, other than nasty pumps. Have you tried kre-alkalyn?
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: deadpan on May 20, 2013, 10:25:24 AM
I never experienced any sides, other than nasty pumps. Have you tried kre-alkalyn?

tried a bunch, micronized monohydrate seemed to work the best for me. got great pumps for a while but the effect wanes in a few weeks it seems. some people say to cycle it, and there's entire websites dedicated to proper dosing protocols of it (timing, warming the mix, etc). in the end i got lazy and stopped taking it...
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 20, 2013, 10:30:37 AM
tried a bunch, micronized monohydrate seemed to work the best for me. got great pumps for a while but the effect wanes in a few weeks it seems. some people say to cycle it, and there's entire websites dedicated to proper dosing protocols of it (timing, warming the mix, etc). in the end i got lazy and stopped taking it...

Holy shit that is complicated! Some guys just don't respond well. I take 1 tab of kre-alkalyn pre workout everyday and I'm G2G. Even though I don't believe in cycling off of something your body is turning over constantly, whether you like it or not, I still give it a rest maybe a week every 3-4 months. I do this for everything though, food, training, vitamins, etc.
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: deadpan on May 20, 2013, 10:46:23 AM
probably a good policy
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: dj181 on May 20, 2013, 12:36:50 PM
i never did this personally, seemed like if i'm stressing my kidneys already, why take something that degrades into creatinine

that's exactly what i'm worried about

i just jumped up to 30 mg of superdrol and the difference btw 10-20 mg to 30 mg is like night and day :o

i'll probably stay on 30 mg for 3 weeks
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 20, 2013, 01:28:53 PM
that's exactly what i'm worried about

i just jumped up to 30 mg of superdrol and the difference btw 10-20 mg to 30 mg is like night and day :o

i'll probably stay on 30 mg for 3 weeks

Time for injectables brother
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: Luolamies on May 20, 2013, 04:38:24 PM
Time for injectables brother

x2
High time, yes...
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: dj181 on May 20, 2013, 04:43:54 PM
ok, so if i'd take injectables what should i run?

p.s. i ain't gonna fucking run no goddamn test, coz i want to stay hard and not get no fucking bloat >:(

so i guess i'd either have to run tren or primo right?
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: deadpan on May 20, 2013, 05:05:06 PM
do you ever actually post legit posts or is it all just trolling?

test won't bloat you unless you go like over a gram or are tiny. even then there are these things called ai's.  ::)
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: dj181 on May 20, 2013, 05:16:50 PM
that's not what they say on the roid boards like steroid.com

if i inject it will be either tren, primo, or equipoise, but most likely tren

i'm not looking to be huge, i just wanna be 170-180 @ sub-5

right now i'm about 160 @ sub-5

don't take it personal dude, as we all have our own seperate goals and desires, and that's mine
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: deadpan on May 20, 2013, 05:54:32 PM
oh shit sorry lol, i confused you with someone else. but yeah fair enough. just in my experience it's a bit over-exaggerated, especially if you're already lean. kinda like what they say about liver toxicity of orals, for the most part it isn't a massive problem.
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: Psychopath on May 20, 2013, 06:40:54 PM
that's not what they say on the roid boards like steroid.com

if i inject it will be either tren, primo, or equipoise, but most likely tren

i'm not looking to be huge, i just wanna be 170-180 @ sub-5

right now i'm about 160 @ sub-5

don't take it personal dude, as we all have our own seperate goals and desires, and that's mine


I would do a basic test cycle. I prefer Test P, but if you loathe injecting, then Test C/E would suffice.

Test P 200mg M W F - 0.5mg Adex/day or 12.5mg Aromasin/day

or

Test E/C 250mg M T - 0.5mg Adex/day or 12.5mg Aromasin/day


If you find yourself getting too watery, and nipples getting a bit sensitive, then i would up the AI dose.
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: Venom55 on May 31, 2013, 07:56:27 PM
Creatine and GLUTAMINE ARE A MUST IN MY OPINION.   THEY SHUTTLE THE PROTEIN AND NUTRIENTS NEEDED FOR NEW GROWTH TO THE MUSCLES AS NEEDED.  BCAAS ARE VERY HELPFUL.   DO SOME RESEARCH.   GLUTAMINE IS BEEN SAID TO REALLY HELP ON GEAR.
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: delta9mda on May 31, 2013, 09:09:09 PM
Yes it is.

Steroids increase your skeletal muscles uptake of all nutrients, including creatine.



this ^^
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: dj181 on June 01, 2013, 03:54:12 AM
Creatine and GLUTAMINE ARE A MUST IN MY OPINION.   THEY SHUTTLE THE PROTEIN AND NUTRIENTS NEEDED FOR NEW GROWTH TO THE MUSCLES AS NEEDED.  BCAAS ARE VERY HELPFUL.   DO SOME RESEARCH.   GLUTAMINE IS BEEN SAID TO REALLY HELP ON GEAR.

well i'm gonna give it a go, so we'll see how it works out

someone else recommended that i get creatine that also has taurine and leucine included, so i'll see if i can find a creatine monohydrate complex with those 2 compounds included in the mix as well
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on June 01, 2013, 07:46:46 AM
well i'm gonna give it a go, so we'll see how it works out

someone else recommended that i get creatine that also has taurine and leucine included, so i'll see if i can find a creatine monohydrate complex with those 2 compounds included in the mix as well

Totally unnecessary IMO.

Stick with good ole monohhdrate. It's the industry standard. Taurine and leucine are a strange combo to add?
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: dj181 on June 01, 2013, 08:33:21 AM
Totally unnecessary IMO.

Stick with good ole monohhdrate. It's the industry standard. Taurine and leucine are a strange combo to add?

well supposedly those 2 aminos "help push nutrients into the cells"

not sure if it's true or not, but that's what they said...

and yeah, i'll get monohydrate
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: anabolichalo on June 01, 2013, 08:39:06 AM
i'd say no

fuck supplements


just train, eat, inject some test and call it a day
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: dj181 on June 01, 2013, 05:12:51 PM
here's the one i got, and it's got these other ingredients to supposedly help and aid with uptake and such...

Dextrose, glucose polymers, stearic acid, citric acid, natural and artificial flavors, and magnesium stearate

http://www.perfectbody.ie/activlab-creatine-tabs-300-tabs-chewable

Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: Mad-scientist on June 03, 2013, 11:56:27 PM
I am surprised nobody mentioned that Anavar increases the Atp cycle making creatine more effective and creatine making anavar more effective at raising strength and endurance. And intracellular retention of glycogen would be increased to. But I would personally not take creatine with something like testosterone for the simple fact it would raise water retention more and there for raise blood pressure more on top of the increase in blood pressure testosterone already gives you. Also I would suggest not running any steroids with out a basis of testosterone to the guy who said a tren only cycle. Your body does need levels of testosterone to function at a healthy basis and a tren only cycle will shut your natural testosterone down. Also I would not advise running tren for a first cycle. If you wanted to stay lean I would go with hormone replacement levels of test P combined with something on the lines of anavar or primobolan. A very expensive cycle either way but you would enjoy the results more than a test c cycle and looking as bloated as a hot dog contest eating winner. lol yes yes I know Ai's can lower water retention but you will still bloat a little at a normal 500 mg a week test cycle. And if he likes a hard cut body he will notice that more than your average joe. This is all theoretical advice though don't take my word for any of it consult a trt doctor or something.
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: JediTerminator on June 04, 2013, 07:54:58 AM
i'd say no

fuck supplements


just train, eat, inject some test and call it a day

wasn't it speculated your juice was fake?
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: anabolichalo on June 04, 2013, 07:56:12 AM
wasn't it speculated your juice was fake?
yes but in the end i find that hard to believe since my weight went up about 9kg on 12 week cycle and i didnt really eat more than usual

pressing strength went up about 30kg
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: JediTerminator on June 04, 2013, 08:02:51 AM
yes but in the end i find that hard to believe since my weight went up about 9kg on 12 week cycle and i didnt really eat more than usual

pressing strength went up about 30kg

then if your shit was fake I want that kind of placebo  ;D

what about your other stuff. finestrade and all that?
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: anabolichalo on June 04, 2013, 08:04:40 AM
then if your shit was fake I want that kind of placebo  ;D

what about your other stuff. finestrade and all that?
my finasteride, i hope it's real but i bought it from the site that sold me bunk taladafafdilaluil (generic cialis)

but during my cycle i used proscar from pharmacy because i ran out of mailorder stuff
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: dj181 on June 04, 2013, 08:29:44 AM
yes but in the end i find that hard to believe since my weight went up about 9kg on 12 week cycle and i didnt really eat more than usual

pressing strength went up about 30kg

that's some damn good gains right there

i'm up 2 kg already since starting the loading phase on saturday

i'll add 5 more kilo over the next 2-3 weeks, and i'm very sure of this
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: anabolichalo on June 04, 2013, 08:32:10 AM
that's some damn good gains right there

i'm up 2 kg already since starting the loading phase on saturday

i'll add 5 more kilo over the next 2-3 weeks, and i'm very sure of this
definitely think the gear is legit

and since no libido increase or no acne (and i am sensitive for acne), i conclude the finasteride must work
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: dj181 on June 04, 2013, 08:36:05 AM
definitely think the gear is legit

and since no libido increase or no acne (and i am sensitive for acne), i conclude the finasteride must work

what about your row strength?
Title: Re: is it worth it to take creatine while on the sause?
Post by: anabolichalo on June 04, 2013, 09:15:27 AM
what about your row strength?
i dont know