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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Ron on June 07, 2013, 01:28:41 PM
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Oxygen, MuscleMag, Reps are in the process of declaring bankruptcy and all of employees have been sent home.
Business for these magazines are over, and as of right now, no more issues coming out, as the printer is owed thousands, and halted everything.
Sad to see the end of an era in the publishing world.
--> Discussions with Musclephone, as he gets the credit for bringing it up
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Has been "downhill" for awhile now (in the 90's it was great)
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Oxygen, MuscleMag, Reps are in the process of declaring bankruptcy and the employees have been sent home.
Business for these magazines are over, and as of right now, no more issues coming out.
why is this Ron ? Bob Kennedy died but i thought it would go on ?
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MM started dying the month Muscletech ads appeared in the mag.
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Real question, who the hell still buys bodybuilding mags?
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Who buys magazines any more? This is no surprise.
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The internet killed printed media.
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The internet killed printed media.
this is very true
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From Bill Geiger, editor-in-chief of the magazines...
"Bad news folks: Canusa/Robert Kennedy Pubs which produces MuscleMag and Oxygen has gone out of business. Closed its doors. It was great working all the great people on staff and athletes out there. Hope I land on my feet."
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With an 80/20 advertising to content ratio, why couldn't they make it? Printing & distribution costs too high?
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PIP
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PIP Musclemag. I loved that mag as a naive teenager. Thanks for the memories.
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With an 80/20 advertising to content ratio, why couldn't they make it? Printing & distribution costs too high?
Circulation numbers go down and advertisers are less inclined to place ads and if they do they aren't going to pay a high rate.
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Reps was actually a good mag, maybe they can continue as an online forum.
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I remember the glory days of Musclemag here in the UK - a la early 90's - my wife bought me a 6 month subscription recently as a present recently, and really - what a struggle it was to read right through each issue.
Authors really are scraping the barrel trying to come up with new material...
No surprise that this situation has resulted really...
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well ron, partially responsible are forums like this one
i feel sorry for those who lost their jobs,kinda.
not for bob kenedy, he spread so many lies there the only good thing about mmi was greg zulak for a while
the rest was the usual dishonesty and lately the mag looked like 80% ads.
and having pics of pros with guts like cows,thatw ont survive in this economy.
the mag was fucking shit, but less shit than flex etc.
instead of being honest,they went for the money.
misleading a whole generation into permabulking and buying creatine and useless supplements.
pathetic.
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Authors really are scraping the barrel trying to come up with new material...
Train, eat, take drugs, rest, rinse and repeat.
Thats competitive bodybuilding.
Theres only so many ways you can tell it.
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well ron, partially responsible are forums like this one ;D
i feel sorry for those who lost their jobs,kinda.
not for bob kenedy, he spread so many lies there the only good thing about mmi was greg zulak for a while
the rest was the usual dishonesty and lately the mag looked like 80% ads.
and having pics of pros with guts like cows,thatw ont survive in this economy.
the mag was fucking shit, but less shit than flex etc.
instead of being honest,they went for the money.
misleading a whole generation into permabulking and buying creatine and useless supplements.
pathetic.
Bingo
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sorry to hear this, it's the sign of the times. :( :( :( i still have issue 1.
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Did any of you ever speak to him ? I spoke to him 2 on the phone. He made a lot of time for me and was a very nice man . Please do not speak rubbish about him or MM .
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who doesnt remember the 134% strenght increases from muscletech
and the hydrocut
haha they pushed greg kovacs will they help him now that hes destroyed himself, how about a nostalgia article for kovacs to see how the "celltech" worked longterm
I was promised "steroid-like gains"
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Oxygen, MuscleMag, Reps are in the process of declaring bankruptcy and all of employees have been sent home.
Business for these magazines are over, and as of right now, no more issues coming out, as the printer is owed thousands, and halted everything.
Sad to see the end of an era in the publishing world.
--> Discussions with Musclephone, as he gets the credit for bringing it up
I pretty much expected it....without Robert Kennedy, the company was never able to recover and catch their breath. Very sad to hear.
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Bob Kennedy
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-Who want to buy "muscle" advertising catalogues with up to 40% of bullshit contents ::)
-Never ending repetitive images & BS training methods
-Old editors/publishers with old ideas, they don't know how to adopt/modernize to today's readers
-Muscle & Fitness still is titled "Joe Weider's" mag's how idiotically can dead man run business ::) ::) ::)
-Etc,etc,etc,...............
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What turns me off if the endless supplement ads, endless pictures of dudes in a kitchen w a fork and a set of supplement bottles on the counter,
recycled "routines" right out of peoples' asses, etc.
Its just boring and overdone.
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Robert Kennedy was always respectful to me, and to many others. But yes, falling ad sales, high cost of rent on a new office building, and not watching the expenses, along with a declining circulation, led to the downfall on the entire company.
Oxygen, MuscleMag - can be very viable if done right without high unnecessary expenses.
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sorry to hear this, it's the sign of the times. :( :( :( i still have issue 1.
My collection starts with issue no. 2. :'(
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Next Exit : Flex.
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Next Exit : Flex.
......WHAT, no more 7 000 000 readers worldwide ;D ;D ;D
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It wasn't too long ago that MD had Pictorals of women with huge implants and electrical tape covering strategic places...and they sold like hotcakes, and then they stopped.
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It wasn't too long ago that MD had Pictorals of women with huge implants and electrical tape covering strategic places...and they sold like hotcakes, and then they stopped.
Retailers gave them shit for it or so I heard. Said they wouldn't carry the mag in certain places like grocery stores.
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Retailers gave them shit for it or so I heard. Said they wouldn't carry the mag in certain places like grocery stores.
yet men wearing less than what normal men wear for underwear is ok?
Well, it was good while it lasted.
7/11 and most gas stations don't have magazine racks anymore.
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I miss Ironman Europe more than those mags together. So much better than the US edition as well...
(http://pmcdn.priceminister.com/photo/568644386_L.jpg)
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I hope Flex Mag lives on
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I hope Flex Mag lives on
LOL!!!
Serious question: Why ???
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yet men wearing less than what normal men wear for underwear is ok?
Well, it was good while it lasted.
7/11 and most gas stations don't have magazine racks anymore.
damn, I'm Mad at my local 7-11 for taking away smooth, lingerie magazine...... ;D
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When Oxygen became Toscagen I stopped reading.
This is still very sad though. Oxygen was the best female fitness magazine out there. :-[
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LOL!!!
Serious question: Why ???
It was Uncle Joe's dream that Flex Mag lives on for eternity.... :)
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When Oxygen became Toscagen I stopped reading.
This is still very sad though. Oxygen was the best female fitness magazine out there. :-[
It used to be the best female fitness magazine. I stopped purchasing it a long time ago though. It just became very boring and like a receipe book.
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Since when does filing for bankruptcy protection mean "out of business"? They could seek new lending agreements or sell the assets to another company, who could then resume publishing under the new ownership.
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yet men wearing less than what normal men wear for underwear is ok?
Well, it was good while it lasted.
7/11 and most gas stations don't have magazine racks anymore.
Apparently they live by the same "it's only gay if you want it to be" rule we do at getbig. When I was in high school and started lifting weights my parents would buy the mags for me. My stepdad would tell me he checked the magazine out first to make sure there wasn't anything to homo in it.
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From Bill Geiger, editor-in-chief of the magazines...
"Bad news folks: Canusa/Robert Kennedy Pubs which produces MuscleMag and Oxygen has gone out of business. Closed its doors. It was great working all the great people on staff and athletes out there. Hope I land on my feet."
The is how an editor-in-chief communicates this to employees??? Leadership is the problem here. Nothing more, nothing less.
THE BEEF
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Sad news. I remember the glory days of Trish Stratus photo spreads in MuscleMag International, as well as some very good writing. It was Bob who brought Trish to the masses before she made the move to wrestling at WWE.
Also sad to about Bob's wife and son's death at just 23 before Bob himself passed away:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=371335.0
I have a journalism degree (pre-Internet days) and it's been kind of sad to witness the death of print. The Internet is great, but there is something great about reading from the printed page that computers can never totally replace.
It's not a surprise that MMI folded, though. The issues I picked up over recent years were total ads and the writing could not compare to the past.
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Once they hired Aaron Singerman it was all
Dan down hill from there.
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The is how an editor-in-chief communicates this to employees??? Leadership is the problem here. Nothing more, nothing less.
THE BEEF
No, that was posted on facebook hours after it all occurred.
There was a company meeting in the morning, in which they all all informed at the same time when financing / a buyer / other options failed and did not go through like perhaps they thought it would.
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Where's the gif of the guy from the movie Tombstone?
Bye..........
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Bodybuilding is dead. The interest in seeing drug bloated cosmetic muscle guys posing in g string speedos is just about on life support. The sport was always driven by the magazines. Now no one buys them. Bodybuilding shows were every where in the 80's. The sales of bodybuilding magazines had really big circulations then. They are no where to be found now. Insecure teenagers and young men that were drawn to the sport are now into joining strip mall MMA gyms.
Gym memberships are big now. It's just that fitness is the goal and not the syringe.
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The problem is that the freaks have been rewarded and mainstream people want nothing to do with it
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The internet killed printed media.
In ten years, I'll be surprised if any magazine, on any subject, or any newspaper, is still being published.
I wonder which muscle mag will be the next to go? Ironman? Flex?
And I disagree with some of the following comments that it's the look of today's bodybuilders that's hurting magazine sales. I think it's just there's no place in our modern electronic world for paper publications.
I never see anyone buying the magazines, but in fairness, I don't buy them or subscribe either. Why do need them when I have getbig.com?
I never see anyone buying a muscle magazine, h
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Bodybuilding is dead. The interest in seeing drug bloated cosmetic muscle guys posing in g string speedos is just about on life support. The sport was always driven by the magazines. Now no one buys them. Bodybuilding shows were every where in the 80's. The sales of bodybuilding magazines had really big circulations then. They are no where to be found now. Insecure teenagers and young men that were drawn to the sport are now into joining strip mall MMA gyms.
Gym memberships are big now. It's just that fitness is the goal and not the syringe.
true,,,well put.
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why is this Ron ? Bob Kennedy died but i thought it would go on ?
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Believe me, if he WERE still alive- it WOULD have gone on!!!
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RIP
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very sad news .
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OLDDTIMER / NJFLEX.
I disagree with your statment thatt " bodybiilding is dead"!
In fact bodybuilding and the NPC sanctioning orgaization is growing faster and larger than it ever has since it originated.
It's not uncommon now-a-days to have 300 NPC male and female competitors competing in a single NPC sanctioned event.
Even the non-sanctioned contests promoted by Joe Wheatly at Venice Beach three times each year manages to attract over 200 individuals attempting to go home with an award of any kind.
And you would be hard pressed to find a decent seat at most of these contests.
Bodybuilding events may be CHANGING due to expansion by way of more divisioms .. but they sure as hell ain't die-ing!
I'm not sure about this but if there is any funeral to be held in the future ... it just might be for the demise of professional bodybuilding AS WE KNOW IT TODAY. But that CHANGE will only make it more popular and acceptable by everyone .... including the contestants.
Could it possibly be that Men's Physique has its foot in the door-way bearing modifications that might appease the masses????
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The internet killed printed media.
I wish it would kill those Cankles
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Those silly magazines created a whole lot of dreams.
PIP Publish in Peace
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TOMMY, Did you ever really place your faith into any of those supplement ads?
And if you did .... which ones worked as you hoped ... or as you expected??
List the 5 best products if you don't mind.
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haha first issue"the way it is!" spotting a guy with gyno on the cover
U srs? Either your "regimen" has enhanced your eyesight or you have one helluva monitor! I can't see any.
Btw, is that Richard Baldwin? Kinda looks like him but then again maybe not.
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TOMMY, Did you ever really place your faith into any of those supplement ads?
And if you did .... which ones worked as you hoped ... or as you expected??
List the 5 best products if you don't mind.
"Faith"? No I wouldn't say faith. I had hope in many supplements. Luckily for many years I got them all free so when I was disappointed it was only mental and not financial too. :D
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The internet killed printed media.
This ^. X2.
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Oxygen, MuscleMag, Reps are in the process of declaring bankruptcy and all of employees have been sent home.
Business for these magazines are over, and as of right now, no more issues coming out, as the printer is owed thousands, and halted everything.
Sad to see the end of an era in the publishing world.
--> Discussions with Musclephone, as he gets the credit for bringing it up
No more MuscleMag? Ouch, this is an End of an Era!
I had quite a few MuscleMag-issues back in the 90s
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Where's the gif of the guy from the movie Tombstone?
Bye..........
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnl-b13sa8JK8R_sNjabwaYdT12c-dHu-hfCptaMD-AdK5P48e)
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i still have a Folder of MM stuff that i liked.....
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RIP Bob Kennedy and Muscle Mag....
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As long as the getbig server stays alive, not a fuck is given about anything else in the bbing world from me...
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Disappointed to hear about Musclemag - used to love reading that back in the mid nineties - thought it was way better than Flex.
But it is true - the internet has killed it all off and to be honest, it's for the best. At least the truth about training, diet, gear etc is out there for people to expose under relative anonymity - I wish I had the knowledge that the internet now brings back in those days - progress would have ben made a lot faster.
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Disappointed to hear about Musclemag - used to love reading that back in the mid nineties - thought it was way better than Flex.
But it is true - the internet has killed it all off and to be honest, it's for the best. At least the truth about training, diet, gear etc is out there for people to expose under relative anonymity - I wish I had the knowledge that the internet now brings back in those days - progress would have ben made a lot faster.
good post :)
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Disappointed to hear about Musclemag - used to love reading that back in the mid nineties - thought it was way better than Flex.
But it is true - the internet has killed it all off and to be honest, it's for the best. At least the truth about training, diet, gear etc is out there for people to expose under relative anonymity - I wish I had the knowledge that the internet now brings back in those days - progress would have ben made a lot faster.
Yes the mag's were the best now just net seems we need go back to older days.
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OLDDTIMER / NJFLEX.
I disagree with your statment thatt " bodybiilding is dead"!
In fact bodybuilding and the NPC sanctioning orgaization is growing faster and larger than it ever has since it originated.
It's not uncommon now-a-days to have 300 NPC male and female competitors competing in a single NPC sanctioned event.
Even the non-sanctioned contests promoted by Joe Wheatly at Venice Beach three times each year manages to attract over 200 individuals attempting to go home with an award of any kind.
And you would be hard pressed to find a decent seat at most of these contests.
Bodybuilding events may be CHANGING due to expansion by way of more divisioms .. but they sure as hell ain't die-ing!
I'm not sure about this but if there is any funeral to be held in the future ... it just might be for the demise of professional bodybuilding AS WE KNOW IT TODAY. But that CHANGE will only make it more popular and acceptable by everyone .... including the contestants.
Could it possibly be that Men's Physique has its foot in the door-way bearing modifications that might appease the masses????
Thank you for bringing the positively, Stunt.
When people can't deal with the current situation, they should consider to join other forums like Ironage or Men's health.
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Oxygen was a great spank-book until I realized that my laptop was just as portable. #deathknell
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OLDDTIMER / NJFLEX.
I disagree with your statment thatt " bodybiilding is dead"!
In fact bodybuilding and the NPC sanctioning orgaization is growing faster and larger than it ever has since it originated.
It's not uncommon now-a-days to have 300 NPC male and female competitors competing in a single NPC sanctioned event.
Even the non-sanctioned contests promoted by Joe Wheatly at Venice Beach three times each year manages to attract over 200 individuals attempting to go home with an award of any kind.
And you would be hard pressed to find a decent seat at most of these contests.
Bodybuilding events may be CHANGING due to expansion by way of more divisioms .. but they sure as hell ain't die-ing!
I'm not sure about this but if there is any funeral to be held in the future ... it just might be for the demise of professional bodybuilding AS WE KNOW IT TODAY. But that CHANGE will only make it more popular and acceptable by everyone .... including the contestants.
Could it possibly be that Men's Physique has its foot in the door-way bearing modifications that might appease the masses????
Think of it this way, if you have 100 events in a year, competitors will be spread out among those shows. Drop the number of shows by half, taking in account the number of competitors who don't want to compete anymore/won't travel/etc, you can easily see why some of these shows have such huge numbers.
In as far as professional bodybuilding and "as we know it today", what's going to change? Guys will still pump as much shit into their bodies as they can. Trying to get to that magical "300lbs and sub 5%" bullshit. When these guys stop 'competing' they look like shit for the most part. Is it because they are so burnt out from the years of training? HARDLY. The OCD dieting and constant load the body took from years and years of drugs. The harsh reality is that most of the 'pros' are nothing without their size. They hang on to that glory longer than other sports/activities.
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U srs? Either your "regimen" has enhanced your eyesight or you have one helluva monitor! I can't see any.
Btw, is that Richard Baldwin? Kinda looks like him but then again maybe not.
Front cover of the first mag was Ray Novak
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KRANK, Thanks for your intelligent response, but I gotta disagree with you entirely.
If I understand you correctly, you believe that there are only more contestants in inividual NPC sanctioned events now-a-days because there are fewer NPC contests.
The fact as I see it is that …… there are more contests because there are more contestants! And that means a hell of a lot of more contests out here on the West Coast of the good old USA.
The only way that this can be proven is to inquire about the number of NPC members presently enrolled within the NPC.
My GUESS is that NPC membership is much, much larger than it ever has been due to the addition of Men’s Physique and the various weight and height divisions within the separate events.
And most GetBiggers will hate me for saying this but ….. it appears that Men’s Physique will soon surpass Men’s Bodybuilding in numbers and eventually ... interest (if it has not done so already).
And a few IFBB Pros agree. Expect to hear more about this subject in the not too distant future. It's happening but it's just not noticeable this early in its history.
Bodybuilding comps will never die but they could possibly take a back seat.
Gotta get back to work. We are attempting to start a very-very small earthquake out here in a remote part of the desert to study something beneath our feet. Something I know nothing about.
As my favorite Old Sayng goes ….. I’d have to shoot ya if I told ya!
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From Muscle Phone tweets regarding the interview ex-Editor-In-Chief Bill Geiger gave to PBW Radio on RKP Publishing
"Bill Geiger says Oxygen Magazine has more brand value with readers than Muscle & Fitness Hers."
"Bill Geiger says Muscle Mag pulled in a profit in a profit of over $10 million last year."
"We're competing with every bodybuilder who puts out blogs and stuff"
"PKP Publishing tried to re-negotiate terms of the lease. They had a ten year lease. Ultimately lead to the loss of money at RKP"
"Bill Geiger cites moving into a 2 story building as part of the downfall of RKP"
"They were getting 300k plus per month which was coming from MuscleTech ads"
Geiger says "Tosca had met with David Pecker at American Media" says trying to sell some of co assets. Deal fell through.
Bill Geiger says "they were up to 8 months behind" on paying writers and photographers at RKP
Bill Geiger says journalism is one of the worst fields you could be in right now.
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Stuntmovie, regarding to the U.S. NPC, they a not achieving too much on IFBB World championships , just check NPC's placements for the last 10 years.Contest like "Joe Weider's Mr.Olympia" can disappear very easily, Olympia is not officially sanctioned by any International BB
organization !?.
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Muscle Mag & other US "bodybuilding" mags hardly ever reported about contests like NABBA Universe,WABBA World,NAC Universe/World,WBBF or Inba championship.
Just never ending & repetitive BS about fictional Mr.Olympia competitors training's,etc,.
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Those mags will not be missed: semi naked girls can be found everywhere online, en apart from a very small group of freaks and gays nobody likes the look of extreme bodybuilders. (And the stories were complete bs, basically nothing has changed since the seventies in terms of training and nutrition. Only the chemical part of BB has changed dramatically..)
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I just remember living in NJ in the early 80's there were many local bodybuilding contests. They would sell out too. I think their might be one contest in NJ and with the now million categories of contests the place sells just from family and friends. Every gym I use to train at were plenty of guys getting ready for some contest. Now I can't find one guy at any gym getting ready for a contest.
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I just remember living in NJ in the early 80's there were many local bodybuilding contests. They would sell out too. I think their might be one contest in NJ and with the now million categories of contests the place sells just from family and friends. Every gym I use to train at were plenty of guys getting ready for some contest. Now I can't find one guy at any gym getting ready for a contest.
Same w me in NY Metro area. Different times. The young dudes want nothing to do with it and don't want to put in the time or sacrifice.
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This sucks.
MM was the perfect BB magazine; it didn't BS you about the part steroids played in the pro ranks, and it wasn't sleazy like MD.
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Bodybuilding is dead. The interest in seeing drug bloated cosmetic muscle guys posing in g string speedos is just about on life support. The sport was always driven by the magazines. Now no one buys them. Bodybuilding shows were every where in the 80's. The sales of bodybuilding magazines had really big circulations then. They are no where to be found now. Insecure teenagers and young men that were drawn to the sport are now into joining strip mall MMA gyms.
Gym memberships are big now. It's just that fitness is the goal and not the syringe.
This.
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H
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The Magazines introduced us to the various personalities in the sport...this is whats missing today......I knew all about King Kamali, Shawn Ray, Gunther, Mattarazzo, Dillett, etc......now I don't know any of the guys except the old-timers....
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The Magazines introduced us to the various personalities in the sport...this is whats missing today......I knew all about King Kamali, Shawn Ray, Gunther, Mattarazzo, Dillett, etc......now I don't know any of the guys except the old-timers....
A lot of these guys are insecure freaks. If a few would post on the boards and just roll w the punches - it would do them a lot of good
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I wish nothing but the best to Bob's family and the RKP team. I know this couldn't have been easy for them to see happen since his passing.
He was a great man, and I will always respect what he built. His legacy is a spirit of unrelenting pursuit of a dream despite being handed some crummy circumstances in life. I find that inspirational.
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A lot of these guys are insecure freaks. If a few would post on the boards and just roll w the punches - it would do them a lot of good
I agree.....I Think all the current bodybuilders have been warned to steer clear of GetBig by the other who were flamed out of here
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Who ran the publishing empire at the corporate level after Robert K passed?
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Who ran the publishing empire at the corporate level after Robert K passed?
Kingz like self proclaimed "King Shizzo" run empires ;D ;D ;D
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funny enough the current 'men's physique' guys are closer in build to the 70's bb'ers we all loved, yet they get shit on, i guess because they wear shorts.
lots of guys were willing to do 'a little something' to look good in the club or beach, guys that loved the training or repsonded well took the next step and tried to compete. the level of drug use has become absurd though, very few want to do it, or waste the money on drugs and food, look like a joke to the general public, dont forget steroids are below a dogs ass in the publics eyes nowadays, when all there were contests and bb'ers 'everywhere' in the 80's they were legal...
and lets be honest, it was always a pretty dumb endeavor. i can see a strength contest, something like that, but a contest to see who has the prettiest muscles? c'mon
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funny enough the current 'men's physique' guys are closer in build to the 70's bb'ers we all loved, yet they get shit on, i guess because they wear shorts.
I know it's not the popular belief around here, but I feel strongly that the Men's Physique division will be the future of bodybuilding.
"1"
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I know it's not the popular belief around here, but I feel strongly that the Men's Physique division will be the future of bodybuilding.
...not that there's anything wrong with that...
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I know it's not the popular belief around here, but I feel strongly that the Men's Physique division will be the future of bodybuilding.
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Technically, you can't hardly call this 'bodybuilding', it's more body shaping/fitness/sculpting/etc.
Lately, I brought a visit to a local show, and during the physique rounds, must guys in the public used those 15-20 mins for a meal or a toilet visit.
It attracts, just like women's figure & bikini, another public, so let them organize separate shows for this.
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I know it's not the popular belief around here, but I feel strongly that the Men's Physique division will be the future of bodybuilding.
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i agree
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Oxygen, MuscleMag, Reps are in the process of declaring bankruptcy and all of employees have been sent home.
Business for these magazines are over, and as of right now, no more issues coming out, as the printer is owed thousands, and halted everything.
Sad to see the end of an era in the publishing world.
--> Discussions with Musclephone, as he gets the credit for bringing it up
You mean this issue with Arnold is the LAST ONE?
Well, it's just Flex and MD, now.
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Totally in agreement with ONE regarding the future of Men's Physique evemts.
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I know it's not the popular belief around here, but I feel strongly that the Men's Physique division will be the future of bodybuilding.
"1"
And if Kai somehow wins the Olympia, you'll see that change take place within a year, IMO.
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Does anyone actually think the public will accept drugged physiques? It has ruined the sport and destroyed women's bodybuilding. It is as clear as day that this is what is responsible. What are they doing about it? Absolutely nothing. Pathetic individuals.
Look at the nonsense of wearing those long board shorts for a contest. Again, dopes running the sport. We can expect more embarrassing decisions in the future.
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The jig is up...Before forums got going full force, 20% of people who bought the magazines didn't really know that bodybuilding was a really gay "sport". Now everyone with a computer can go on a forum and see whats really going on in that business. So a straight man going to a store and buying a men's bodybuilding magazine is actually seen as quite gay. And when he goes to a forum and tells his buddies about the new mag he just bought, a lot of them will call him gay. I thought I read somewhere that bodybuilding is an 80/20% split...And now that forums are full force, a lot of the straight guys got far away from it and it's more like 90/10%...
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Real question, who the hell still buys bodybuilding mags?
lmfao, so true. What is amazing is that they re still not all finished. Hopefully with the internet everyone will know once and for all about the reality of steroids and stop buying these pieces of trash that are not worth the paper they re printed on. I swear the ``writers`` must have been using the same article automatic random generator for like 40 years it's ridiculous.
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Magazines are going through hard times, which I know as publisher of the UK magazine THE BEEF. We mainly cover the bodybuilding contests and athletes over here in Britain. To survive we are including more and more "Fitness" types, and Mens Physique shows, which is what the younger generation is going for. The hard-core muscle freaks will always exist, but it looks like it's becoming more of a minority cult thing, and we are obliged to move with the times. It's either that, or go the way of poor old Muscle-Mag. (On that subject, any MM writers or contributors can send any unused stuff my way, as long as they don't expect to be paid. :-) Alex Mac (The Beef Magazine, London)
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Magazines are going through hard times, which I know as publisher of the UK magazine THE BEEF. We mainly cover the bodybuilding contests and athletes over here in Britain. To survive we are including more and more "Fitness" types, and Mens Physique shows, which is what the younger generation is going for. The hard-core muscle freaks will always exist, but it looks like it's becoming more of a minority cult thing, and we are obliged to move with the times. It's either that, or go the way of poor old Muscle-Mag. (On that subject, any MM writers or contributors can send any unused stuff my way, as long as they don't expect to be paid. :-) Alex Mac (The Beef Magazine, London)
Well, there is an audience for this :-X ;D
(http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/68/7d9edac5fcacc251c8da0153ddd444e6/l.jpg)
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Well, there is an audience for this :-X ;D
(http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/68/7d9edac5fcacc251c8da0153ddd444e6/l.jpg)
WHERE IS HITLER WHEN WORLD NEED HIM ???
4th Reich needs good cleaning Her Fuhrer , danke ;)
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This isn't the same magazine ! ;D
www.alexmac.biz
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WHERE IS HITLER WHEN WORLD NEED HIM ???
4th Reich needs good cleaning Her Fuhrer , danke ;)
Calm down, most gays are decent folks
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Out of business....
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I don't think that porn thing is actually a real printed magazine, just some on-line bit of fun.
This is the real bodybuilding mag we do, for good or ill:
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A survey from FLEX
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Subject: FLEX needs your help
Which do you read
Flex
Muscle & Fitness
Do you shave your body?
Yes
No
If you do shave your body, how often?
Every day
Several times a week
Once a week
Several times a month
Once a month or less
Submit
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Does anyone actually think the public will accept drugged physiques? It has ruined the sport and destroyed women's bodybuilding. It is as clear as day that this is what is responsible. What are they doing about it? Absolutely nothing. Pathetic individuals.
Look at the nonsense of wearing those long board shorts for a contest. Again, dopes running the sport. We can expect more embarrassing decisions in the future.
I don't think it's the drugs per se as it is the ideal.
Pre-belly, a physique could be seen as 'inspirational'. Classic lines, aesthetics and presentations, along with a decent amount of mass and conditioning, is something that can be appreciated.
Bellys and pure size and conditioning, however, is not. If people want to be 'bad-asses' they can always go to MMA. Bodybuilding is lead by blind men if they think that with their ridiculously staged bodybuilding grimace photos that they can out-badass the clearly more aggressively masculine power of MMA.
It boggles the mind that the judges allowed such stupid posing to flourish - posing that brought to attention and highlighted every single criticism of bodybuilding in the early days.
The ONLY thing that differentiated bodybuilding from other 'masculine' activities was its sense of aesthetics. That was it. Without that sense, all you had were men in thongs. But that is basically gone now with such clever decisions as belly rewarding and removing posing from competition ::)
Bodybuilding is run by incompetents. The success of a couple of shows is not an indicator of the success of the sport. The success of a few of the competitors is not a sign of the success of the sport.
The sport is successful when younger people want to be part of it and when the old generation want to remain associated with it AND when you no longer need trash-zines such as Flex to sell you scam after scam after scam.
There, like everyone else here, I said it.
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A survey from FLEX
;D
Subject: FLEX needs your help
Which do you read
Flex
Muscle & Fitness
Do you shave your body?
Yes
No
If you do shave your body, how often?
Every day
Several times a week
Once a week
Several times a month
Once a month or less
Submit
But on a serious note, I believe it's key for a magazine to interact with its readers; which topics/articles do they like and which not? Do they have suggestions for other topics? and so on...
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http://www.toscareno.com/2013/06/13/leading-fitness-and-health-publishing-company-officially-closes-doors-after-40-years/#.UbmtcutQ3tU
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Really? No shit, huh?
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http://www.toscareno.com/2013/06/13/leading-fitness-and-health-publishing-company-officially-closes-doors-after-40-years/#.UbmtcutQ3tU
Poor Monica ::)
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Aron Singerman claims Musclemag owes him thousands and thousands of dollars for article he "wrote"
What a dummy
His first real paying "job" and this is how it ends up
Oh well back to selling Roids and narcotics through envision criminals and cashing in on species supplements
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I’m gonna do my best here to respond to the comments offered b y Vince Basile, Teutonic Knight , and Old Timer in an attempt to start a courteous argument aboutt the state of various ‘body’ competitions held within the USA today.
Then I’ll do my best to respond to Knight’s comments which could be of interest to a very few GetBiggers, especially those GetBiggers living outside of the USA.
I don’t have any official facts nor figures to support my ‘argument’ but it’s pretty damn evident out here on the West Coast of the good old USA that the NPC membership is growing by leaps and bounds and has been doing so for the past few years.
A lot of you GetBigggers enjoy talking shit about those who run the NPC (National Physique Committee), but those who talk shit most likely know the individuals who they talk shit about.
There are always a number of valid reasons why individuals feel adversely about any organization, but the ‘good’ far outweighs the ‘bad’ when it comes to the NPC and the officials within the NPC. ( A subject for a later post maybe?)
VINCE B …. You appear to be somewhat vindictive when it comes to NPC/IFBB discussions and maybe you have a right to be based on some personal experiences in the past.
Your comment about the public’s acceptance of drugged physiques is interesting.
The public in general has never accepted drugged physique ‘events’ , ..... nor have they accepted ‘natural’ physique events ……. But enough of that ‘public’ have accepted roided bodies enough to make the likes of individuals like Joe and Ben and many others …. very wealthy (beyond the multi millions).
My point here is that ….. Enough people have accepted drugged physiques to make those who ‘promote’ it VERY wealthy and that has been a good enough reason for them to be involved.
I won’t argue with you regarding women’s bodybuilding . It was well intended at the start with Raquel and Cory by then it took a turn and got out of hand …. (my opinion only).
You may feel somewhat satisfied when and if the NPC removes it from the comps. Might be happening already.
The board short requirement in Men’s Physique …… I believe that this decision was an attempt to differentiate Physique events from Bodybuilding events. Not sure about that though. But he only other alternative was posing trunks or ordinarly ‘trunks’.
I don’t see the “big-deal” about the NPC decision to require board-shorts. in Physique events.
But unlike many others and somewhat in agreement with yourself, I think that the Physique contest idea was initiated in an attempt to overcome the public’s ‘distaste’ for Bodybuilding contests .
Could be wrong here, but I think NOT.
OLDTIMER …. Maybe it’s a fact that the number of NPC contenders on the East Coast is growing smaller ….. but here on the West Coast ...... it is growing larger!
But maybe we are comparing apples and oranges!
I don’t have the facts and figures to prove this but you could be correct if you say that only the Men’s Competitive Bodybuilding numbers have been getting smaller throughout the past few years …. But I seriously doubt if that is true in California.
But even if the above was true, I can almost guarantee you that the overall male and female membership within the NPC has been growing by leaps and bounds like never before.
This is partially due to the increased number of classes within women’s figure and fitness and also due to the unexpected amount of interest among Men’s Physique competitors …… which sort of resembles the physiques of the better amateur bodybuilders of the 60’s and the 70’s.
I think that that last sentence was on the minds of those NPC officials who made the determination to add Men’s Physique as an NPC sanctioned event.
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T. KNIGHT …… Give me some time to respond to your comment as I’m heading out to help with Friday nightt’s MMA fight at the Hard Rock.
Anyone planning to be there? I might have a few extra tickets. COMPT.
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Stunt, you wrote:
But unlike many others and somewhat in agreement with yourself, I think that the Physique contest idea was initiated in an attempt to overcome the public’s ‘distaste’ for Bodybuilding contests .
Do you agree with me, that BB & Physique rounds attract different audiences? If so, wouldn't it be wiser to organise separate shows, to keep everyone satisfied?
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Just got my latest Reps magazine. Too bad there will be no more. It was actually one of the readable magazines that offered some half-way decent content. PIP
Wonder if Weider publications is next? I have a subscription to Flex (got it cheap), but it is shit and going down every issue.
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Picked up the final copy of MuscleMag tonight. Going to seal it up and save it to sell down the road for millions. ;D
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If Bob Kennedy were alive, this wouldn't have happened. Tosca was his "project", and when he died, MuscleMag, and his company, was doomed.
I am actually happy he isn't alive to see this.
Whatever you feel about the man, one thing is for certain. Robert Kennedy was a survivor and one-of-a-kind.
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STUNT, I have nothing against US-NPC but how is possible that local/US title get someone Pro Card ?, but Ifbb World or European far better
champions don't get it or they a not offered ?.Stinks on discrimination, results/placements on the last 10 Ifbb Worlds shows total domination
of Europeans (& other) amateur bodybuilders.
Story is repeated at Arnold Amateur Classics or Amateurs Mr.Olympia.
How can US state title be bigger than World title :P
Or, when selected US -NPC "Team Universe" don't compete at IFBB Universe (World) ::)
See, I knew that some NPC officials would like to join WBBF (World Bodybuilding Federation).
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STUNT, I have nothing against US-NPC but how is possible that local/US title get someone Pro Card ?, but Ifbb World or European far better
champions don't get it or they a not offered ?.Stinks on discrimination, results/placements on the last 10 Ifbb Worlds shows total domination
of Europeans (& other) amateur bodybuilders.
Story is repeated at Arnold Amateur Classics or Amateurs Mr.Olympia.
How can US state title be bigger than World title :P
Or, when selected US -NPC "Team Universe" don't compete at IFBB Universe (World) ::)
See, I knew that some NPC officials would like to join WBBF (World Bodybuilding Federation).
1) European and Arab bodybuilders have better physiques right now because the americans rely too much on insulin and growth hormone. part of that is because the anabolic steroids here are crap. In much of Europe and arabic countries you can get real pharmaceutical grade steroids that contain what the label says it contains. The stuff on the black market here in the US is rarely what the label says, and always under dosed.
2) Team Universe and the IFBB World Amateurs are suppose to be drug tested. If TU is drug tested, they have never disqualified anyone, that is publicly take away their placing. Perhaps they just don't pay for your trip to the Worlds if you fail the drug test. The Worlds do publicly disqualify some contestants each show. Now we don't know how many they actually test. The failure rate could be 100%.
3) Most top world athletes have no desire to compete in the pro IFBB. It would be a significant cut in pay. Most of the top amateurs make much more from their governments or from local endorsements than they'd ever make in the pro IFBB.
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http://investorplace.com/2013/06/leading-fitness-health-magazine-publisher-shuts-down/
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DROP, That’s a damn good question that you asked above but I am not prepared to answer with a YES or NO response, so let me try to offer a respond somewhat indirectly and in greater detail ……
It costs a shit-load of money to promote any NPC event.
The major expense is the daily cost of the facility in which the event will be held, so the promoter strives to shove as many ‘events’ as possible into a one-day ‘venue rental period’.
Get in by 9:00 AM and get out by 11:00 PM is most likely the ‘norm’ now a days.
So it would cost the promoter twice as much money to organize separate shows if he were to promote one event one day and another event the next.
And by holding all the events on one single day, you get a constant turn-over of people paying to sit their ass in those prejudging seats.
For instance the auditorium could be half full during the Teen and Novice prejudging, but once that part is over and some of the teen’s friends and family members depart, those vacant seats are ‘filled back up’ for the Men’s Masters prejudging … after which a new group of people take those vacant seats to watch the figure, then the bikini.
And then those seats become vacant and the Men’s Physique and Men’s Bodybuilding fans move up front and take the seats recently vacated by the Men’s Masters fans ….. etc., etc.
So there is a constant flow of people leaving and entering the auditorium throughout the prejudging phase of any contest. Those who depart make room for those who arrive.
If no one left, prejudging would be a complete sell-out with hundreds of people standing in line trying to get inside.
I personally don’t think there is a problem holding all these NPC events on one single day, but I think there may be a problem for many in the audience sitting through the prejudging phase when there are an excessive number of contestants in the contest.
But what is ‘excessive’ for the audience is great for the NPC and the event promoter. (Financially speaking, that is.)
But ..... I personally think that the Women’s Bikini and Figure will soon be combined into one contest in an effort to 'speed up' the process.
The majority of the people in the audience have difficulty seeing the difference anyway.
Sorry for the length of this but I hope it answered your question.
KNIGHT ….. I’m not familiar about how contests are run in Europe, but let me ask you if that contest held over-seas was a Pro Qualifier.
If could possible be a fact that the contest promoter did not pay the additional fee to make his event a Pro Qualifier.
It’s dfficult for me to give you a good answer because of the following explanation.
Many years ago …. Around 1980 or so …. I attended a meeting in the Santa Monica City Auditorium on the Sunday morning following the previous night’s promotion of the Mr America Contest.
The meeting was held to determine if the bodybuilding organization we were all a part of would like to become associated with the IFBB.
Both Ben and Joe attended to make a formal proposal. The Hofman (York) representatives were also present. So was Dan Lurie and just about every other individual or company who had a vested interest.
Ben was the only one to stand before all who were present and make a proposal.
His proposal was, “The IFBB would recognize the NPC as the US governing body for amateur competitive bodybuilders and amateur contests, if the NPC would recognize the IFBB as the world governing body for professional bodybuilders worldwide and as the governing body for ALL amateur bodybuilding event outside of the US. (If agreed to, the IFBB would not have any jurisdiction over US amateur events.)
A major battle followed that proposal but finally a vote was taken and the agreement was made in accordance with Mr Ben Weider’s proposal.
So in the US the IFBB ‘controls’ professional bodybuilding events and the NPC ‘controls’ amateur events.
But outside of the US, the IFBB ‘controls’ both amateur and professional bodybuilding events.
Needless to say that there are other sanctioning bodies. but they are smaller and less well known an most of us would have difficulty naming any of hte winners of such contests. Some exceptions apply of course.)
I should also state that those organizations are not recognized by the IFBB nor the NPC.
With that being understood, I’ll ask you to redirect your question about events in Europe that may not offer Pro Cards.b
But since I have no idea of how the IFBB or any other sanctioning body operates outside of the USA, I'd most likely have difficulty offering a valid response.
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So in the US the IFBB ‘controls’ professional bodybuilding events and the NPC ‘controls’ amateur events.
But outside of the US, the IFBB ‘controls’ both amateur and professional bodybuilding events.
Needless to say that there are other sanctioning bodies. but they are smaller and less well known an most of us would have difficulty naming any of hte winners of such contests. Some exceptions apply of course.)
I should also state that those organizations are not recognized by the IFBB nor the NPC.
With that being understood, I’ll ask you to redirect your question about events in Europe that may not offer Pro Cards.b
But since I have no idea of how the IFBB or any other sanctioning body operates outside of the USA, I'd most likely have difficulty offering a valid response.
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Stunt, so regarding to you Ben & Joe Weiders with 2-3 others decided we will run bodybuilding world , who cares about Europeans,Asians,Africans,South Americans,Australians & Penguins on Antarctica ,right.
How democratic , wow long live Weider Bros dictatorship.
Current IFBB & F is Rafael Santojas private business , definitely NOT an International sports organization.
IFBB is not a registered trade mark & anyone can start his International BB organization, remember Serge Nubret & reason for WABBA creation.
Ever heard about NABBA,INBA,WFF,WBBF,WPF,NAC (especially NAC),WNBF,INBF and others !.
Suggestion check out websites of NAC or WBBF !.
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KNIGHT … Regarding your statement …. “ You & Ben & Joe Weider with 2-3 others decided who would run the bodybuilding world,who cares about Europeans,Asians,Africans,South Americans, Australians & Penguins on Antarctica.”
I gotta admit that you are partially correct, but NOT precisely. You only visualize the condensed version of what actually happened, but here’s how it really happened …….
As I mentioned earlier we (about 60 bodybuilders, magazine publishers, photographers, and state and national NPC officials) gathered together in a formal meeting under the watchful eye of a gentleman who was knowledgeable about Robert’s Rules of Order regarding formal meetings such as this.
His familiarity with Robert’s Rules of Order assured one and all the this meeting would be conducted legally and ‘above-board’ and in a democratic manner’. (So you are definitely correct in that respect.)
‘Dictatorship’ type of proceedings never did occur. Nor was it mentioned or even ‘thunk-of'’ by anyone in attendance ….. not even among the antagonists. (And there were quite a few antagonists!)
You must understand that our only concern at this meeting was for amateur bodybuilding competitions within the USA and a possible future relationship with the IFBB.
So at the proper time in this proper meeting, Ben arose and made the offer as described in an earlier post.
The floor was given the opportunity to ask questions (there were many), to discuss Ben’s proposal openly (very heated arguments got underway), and then vote on the proposal.
The votes were tallied while parties from all sides observed and made sure that the count was precisely correct.
This was not a secret agenda nor a secret vote.
Ben and his IFBB won that afternoon and shook hands with about 70% of those in attendance while the other 30% left the auditorium in disgust …. the York group and Dan Louri (spelling) and his associates among others.
Back then there was only one ‘International’ bodybuilding organization that appeared to be working on the behalf of the competitors and attempting to give them the recognition that each competitor felt he deserved. (The ladies were not involved just yet. That would occur a few years later.)
That ‘International’ organization just so happened to be the IFBB. Others existed but were relatively unknown and for the most part were non-active within the US. (Help, Joe!)
None of them took the step to do any organizational work within the US similar to the efforts of Ben and Joe Weider. (I give Ben most of the credit in this regards.)
It helped a bit that IFBB had a magazine and every kid who ever saw the inside of a gym would die to get his picture in a national magazine.
So that magazine was another selling point that encouraged the NPC to join up with the IFBB.
Here comes a THE RUMOR DEPATMENT !!!!…… RUMOR AHEAD!!!!
Back then the IFBB made numerous claims to have IFBB representatives (not the best word I am looking for here) in a good number of foreign countries …. Ben claimed at the Santa Monica meeting that this is why the IFBB was an international organization.
But many in the audience accused Ben of being mistaken because many of those ‘representatives’ were merely post office boxes and nothing else.
I can’t say much more about the international part of the IFBB but I will say that at one time not too long ago, Ben was successful in convincing the IOC that the IFBB was a world-wide international organization …. And I don’t recall any other bodybuilding organization objecting to his claim.
I personally know that you had to put up the good fight to make any bodybuilding organization viable when the public wants to fight it .... and Joe and Ben fought long and hard for many years/
Some 'organizations' still exist today, but none that I am aware of have reached the heights of the IFBB, due to the fact that Ben and Joe fought with the world to make it what it is today … a multi million dollar enterprise that offers a few good men (and ladies) opportunities that they never would have had if it wasn’t due to the hard work and life-dedication of these two brothers from Canada.
Regarding Nubret …. I don’t recall his connection to the WABBA but I talked to Serge personally on a few occasions and his only complaint was that some boybuilding organization not related to the IFBB (unless I’m wrong) promoted a contest in Europe someplace which he won and instead of the monetary award that was promised, the promoter gave him the Universal and weight equipment that was used backstage in the pump-up area.
And Nubret would have to ship it himself to himself.
Someone correct me if any of the above is incorrect. But please … ONLY CORRECT ME IF YOU SAW IT WITH YOUR OWN TWO EYEBALLS.
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Their website just went dead:
http://www.emusclemag.com/
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MP, what was that web-site about?
BB HISTORY????
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It was Musclemag's official site.
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Fuck you Tosca, Fuck you.
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Goddamn attention whore.
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Stunt, Serge Nubret created WABBA & you don't know this, come on man this is 2013 not 1980 ?.
Start feeling sorry for you.
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It was Musclemag's official site.
Just pick up Australian edition of MuscleMag (june-july '13) ,business as usual.
www.musclemag.com.au
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Just pick up Australian edition of MuscleMag (june-july '13) ,business as usual.
www.musclemag.com.au
there is a Mexican Muscle Mag as well, but it had no relationship with Muscle Mag International
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Does anyone actually think the public will accept drugged physiques? It has ruined the sport and destroyed women's bodybuilding. It is as clear as day that this is what is responsible. What are they doing about it? Absolutely nothing. Pathetic individuals.
Look at the nonsense of wearing those long board shorts for a contest. Again, dopes running the sport. We can expect more embarrassing decisions in the future.
Pot meets kettle...... ::)
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Like I said...
http://www.toscareno.com/2013/06/17/life-continues/#.UcEAxs457Oo
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Just pick up Australian edition of MuscleMag (june-july '13) ,business as usual.
www.musclemag.com.au
Interesting. Thanks. Hope that print edition lives on.
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Their website just went dead:
http://www.emusclemag.com/
You have to go to www.MuscleMag.com
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You have to go to www.MuscleMag.com
Thanks. Curious of any updates they make there.
The subscription link is dead:
https://w1.buysub.com/Error.jsp?cds_mag_code=MCL&id=1371607697116
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muscle mag was great until muscletech in joint venture flooded it with endless ads...it worked for both parties.the canadian corner was pretty cool seeing guys i would have never heard of otherwise,henderson thorne,fisher,weatherill,dillett,bruce patterson :D :P :-X
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KNIGHT, NOPE! I know nothing about the WABBA as it was established outside of the USA and European organizations are unknown to me.
Hell! I can't even name the King and Queen nor their kids but my mom's cousin and his wife were escorted to England during some last coronation.
I have also forgotten their names.
ANd I have no idea whom-ever it was that ever won an WABBA event.
Can you name three?
I talked with Serge on a few occasions though. How he ever lost to Arnold is beyond my understanding.
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Aaron Singerman out of one of his jobs! Sad,Musclemag used to be a good Mag!
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KNIGHT, NOPE! I know nothing about the WABBA as it was established outside of the USA and European organizations are unknown to me.
Hell! I can't even name the King and Queen nor their kids but my mom's cousin and his wife were escorted to England during some last coronation.
I have also forgotten their names.
ANd I have no idea whom-ever it was that ever won an WABBA event.
Can you name three?
I talked with Serge on a few occasions though. How he ever lost to Arnold is beyond my understanding.
Stunt WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN SINCE 1975 Ifbb Mr.Olympia debacle in South Africa ,a you really don't know how Weider
screwed Serge Nubret & creation of Wabba ???
Can I name 3 Wabba champions (pro or amateurs ?): Oliva,Nubret,Kawak !.
O, by the way there is no King in the U.K., just Queen Betty (Elizabeth II) crowned in 1953 :P :P
O, man this is so hilarious ;D ;D ;D Stunt have U been abducted by Aliens or something ??? ??? ???
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Teutonic and Stunt! With all due respect what the fuck does your argument about the GayFBB and the rest of that nonsense have to do with the Musclemag thread?
Fuck pages of these 2 with 18 page posts in here
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Teutonic and Stunt! With all due respect what the fuck does your argument about the GayFBB and the rest of that nonsense have to do with the Musclemag thread?
Fuck pages of these 2 with 18 page posts in here
A lot, many of those WABBA/IFBB bodybuilders decorated pages of Musclemag ,so ???.
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KNIGHT, I gotta reluctantly agree with NELSON. I stand corrected. Nelson is correct.
Let's continue this over on the MUSCLE BEACH HISTORY page.
But first let me say that I had the opportunity to work with Bob on a couple of notworthy occasions and the bodybuilding world will definitely miss him and the fine work he did for all concerned.
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stunt is salty
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This is still very sad though. Oxygen was the best female fitness magazine out there. :-[
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At least there is still "Shape" ::) ::) ::) ::) and "Self." ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Here is the list of unsecured creditors. Based on the assets and liabilities, I doubt anyone on this list will get more than 10 cents on the dollar.
http://www.deloitte.com/assets/Dcom-Canada/Local%20Assets/Documents/Insolvencies/ca_en_insolv_Canusa_CreditorPackage_061413.pdf
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Just like the IFL A penny on the dollar
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At least there is still "Shape" ::) ::) ::) ::) and "Self." ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
NO WAY, the best pussy mag was MUSCLE ELEGANCE :-* :-* John Terilli (remember him) &
Con Dimitriu went bazookas when I show them ME ;D ;D ;D
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Just like the IFL A penny on the dollar
I think Anabolichalo should get into muscle publishing business ;)