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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The Hunter on June 30, 2013, 04:05:27 PM
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The D.A. doesn't have the slam dunk case they would like you to think. A lot of holes in their case. Don't be suprised if the Raiders pick this kid up in 2015.
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Pffft. Mother fucker is being investigated for a double homicide in a drive by from last summer. Dude is done.
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The D.A. doesn't have the slam dunk case they would like you to think. A lot of holes in their case. Don't be suprised if the Raiders pick this kid up in 2015.
Nothing is a slam dunk. That being said, even he were acquitted he wouldn't be hired on as coach for a pop warner team let alone play professional football again.
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Pffft. Mother fucker is being investigated for a double homicide in a drive by from last summer. Dude is done.
You got proof beyond a reasonable doubt bigshot?
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Nothing is a slam dunk. That being said, even he were acquitted he wouldn't be hired on as coach for a pop warner team let alone play professional football again.
Wrong.
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You got proof beyond a reasonable doubt bigshot?
No, its not my job, but the prosecution will.
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You got proof beyond a reasonable doubt bigshot?
This guy OJ Simpson might be someone you want to look into
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Rodger Goodell will make sure he never plays in the NFL again.
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He is already guilty of illegal possession of firearms, obstruction of justice and at the very least accessory to murder, even if he avoids the murder charge he is still going down for the aforementioned crimes he is going to be in jail for a while no matter what. He is fucked.
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He is already guilty of illegal possession of firearms, obstruction of justice and at the very least accessory to murder, even if he avoids the murder charge he is still going down for the aforementioned crimes he is going to be in jail for a while no matter what. He is fucked.
He isn't guilty of anything bigshot. Innocent until proven guilty.
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This is America your guilty until proven innocent, if he was innocent before proven guilty he would be out on bond and bail, they're going to stick a fork in him he's gona go down for 30 to 80 years they are going to make an example out of him.
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This is America your guilty until proven innocent, if he was innocent before proven guilty he would be out on bond and bail, they're going to stick a fork in him he's gona go down for 30 to 80 years they are going to make an example out of him.
An example? He's guilty as sin. Just because he hasn't been convicted in court doesn't mean he's innocent.
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An example? He's guilty as sin. Just because he hasn't been convicted in court doesn't mean he's innocent.
He's innocent until proven guilty shit for brains. Any more legal scholars want to chime in?
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This is America your guilty until proven innocent, if he was innocent before proven guilty he would be out on bond and bail, they're going to stick a fork in him he's gona go down for 30 to 80 years they are going to make an example out of him.
Possibly. Were the warrants drawn up correctly and executed legally? You don't know. What evidence will be inadmissible? What exculpatory evidence does the defense have? Again, you don't know.
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The D.A. doesn't have the slam dunk case they would like you to think. A lot of holes in their case. Don't be suprised if the Raiders pick this kid up in 2015.
Care to put your money where your mouth is? ::)
Bah!
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How many of you have caught a big case, anyone knows that innocent until proven guilty is bullshit, your really guilty until proven innocent. Go catch a big case and don't have millions see what happens, many of you have been brainwashed regarding the USA justice system, that innocent until proven guilty shit is bullcrap.
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aaron and oj are innocent
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If the system deems him innocent until proven guilty why is he not out on bail
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If the system deems him innocent until proven guilty why is he not out on bail
Because the system works on a slightly different premise. They treat you as guilty until proven innocent and hold you there until further notice.
It should be the other way around (as you stated - innocent until proven guilty), but all practices in place suggest otherwise.
I think this is mainly prevalent in heinous crimes.
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Because the system works on a slightly different premise. They treat you as guilty until proven innocent and hold you there until further notice.
It should be the other way around (as you stated - innocent until proven guilty), but all practices in place suggest otherwise.
I think this is mainly prevalent in heinous crimes.
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Or crimes where it is probably an open and shut case. Either that, or Mr. Hernandez has been selected to be made an example of. People don't want millionaire atheletes running around like Scarface.
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He's not out on bond because he has the resources to flee which makes him a flight risk.
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If the system deems him innocent until proven guilty why is he not out on bail
When the charges include first degree murder, and he attempted - quite foolishly - to destroy evidence, it's not hard to argue against bail. Massive flight risk based on his behavior.
He's got Ropes & Gray and another firm at his behest, which means that it'll be a tough case, fought on a lot of technical measures, admissibility etc... as well as PR efforts. He's got the money to file a ton of motions and screen piles of experts until he comes up with some that will give slightly favorable interpretations of evidence. But then, the prosecution is going to put everything they've got into this, so it'll be interesting.
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"If Hannibal Lector ran a 4.3, NFL Scouts would just call it an eating disorder." - Quote from ESPN just now haha.
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Possibly. Were the warrants drawn up correctly and executed legally? You don't know. What evidence will be inadmissible? What exculpatory evidence does the defense have? Again, you don't know.
LOL at your warrants and evidence arguement.
Yeah, we know big shot the Constitution requires that exculpatory statements by criminal defendants be admitted but once he says anything the prosecution has damning evidence to rebut. That's why he's being told non-stop to shut by his criminal defense team and to not write stupid letters to his fan club, lol. He's as dumb as he looks.
Where was he the night of the murder? Why did he hire a maid service? Why did he flee from police? Why did he destroy his security system (recovered evidence)? That spoiliation of admissiable evidence (do you know how to read FRE) is admissable.
You think they honestly didn't have correct documented warrants to enter his house (no brainer here genius check the 4th amend.) A warrantless search or seizure can survive constitutional inhibition by the surrounding facts - fleeing from police is one of them, spoliation of evidence is another. Check the exigent circumsntaces and let us know what you find.
His defense team has an uphill battle the whole way.
His name is on everything, the timeline of events leading up to and after the murder is spot on placing him as the lead suspect. Just the spoiliation of evidence makes him look culpable before a jury - forget about all the other surrounding circumstantial evidence.
Do you honestly beleive (why am I asking you a question you don't know jack shit) that he has a tight group of friends that are not in or going to be in any legal trouble within the next year and a half to turn state's evidence?
Yeah, so before you try to insult some bros on here for their opinions don't throw legalse around. This is just 2 rules of FRE.
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He's not out on bond because he has the resources to flee which makes him a flight risk.
This!
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It's pretty much a slam dunk case but the Hierarchy's media is trying to set the stage for an OJ type trial where they can put it on TV for a few months and then go invade countries and shit while everyone in America watches the trial...
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He's not out on bond because he has the resources to flee which makes him a flight risk.
Exactly, that and most likely the judge (court) has full discretion in not allowing one the opportunity. Judge most likely saw the nature of the crime(s) the evidence the warrant and other info, evidence collected, and decided it would be a threat to public (safety exception to deny) safety and denied bond. IHis defense team was already strongly denied bail after they appealed the decision. Which shows - this case is uphill for them.
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Nothing is a slam dunk. That being said, even he were acquitted he wouldn't be hired on as coach for a pop warner team let alone play professional football again.
He's through with money and will be doing Buck Rogers time...
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LOL at your warrants and evidence arguement.
Yeah, we know big shot the Constitution requires that exculpatory statements by criminal defendants be admitted but once he says anything the prosecution has damning evidence to rebut. That's why he's being told non-stop to shut by his criminal defense team and to not write stupid letters to his fan club, lol. He's as dumb as he looks.
Where was he the night of the murder? Why did he hire a maid service? Why did he flee from police? Why did he destroy his security system (recovered evidence)? That spoiliation of admissiable evidence (do you know how to read FRE) is admissable.
You think they honestly didn't have correct documented warrants to enter his house (no brainer here genius check the 4th amend.) A warrantless search or seizure can survive constitutional inhibition by the surrounding facts - fleeing from police is one of them, spoliation of evidence is another. Check the exigent circumsntaces and let us know what you find.
His defense team has an uphill battle the whole way.
His name is on everything, the timeline of events leading up to and after the murder is spot on placing him as the lead suspect. Just the spoiliation of evidence makes him look culpable before a jury - forget about all the other surrounding circumstantial evidence.
Do you honestly beleive (why am I asking you a question you don't know jack shit) that he has a tight group of friends that are not in or going to be in any legal trouble within the next year and a half to turn state's evidence?
Yeah, so before you try to insult some bros on here for their opinions don't throw legalse around. This is just 2 rules of FRE.
Not a fan of The Hunter, but he is correct about the possibility of the warrants being drawn up incorrectly, and thus any evidence resulting from the search could be inadmissible. That is true in any criminal case. Also, it's odd that you have interpreted "exculpatory evidence", which would include physical evidence, as "statements" made by the defendant. It seems like you are trying to come off like an attorney, but it is not convincing. Run a spell check if you want to appear scholarly.
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Hernandez murdered at least two other people as well?
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Hernandez murdered at least two other people as well?
He's a person of interest in another case. Bear in mind cops are some of the stupidest people in existence.
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The only football Hernandez is ever going to play again will be in a prisoners versus the guards game.
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This guy is going down for the count.
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This!
so then you re guilty until proven Innocent
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I heard 6 murders
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Not a fan of The Hunter, but he is correct about the possibility of the warrants being drawn up incorrectly, and thus any evidence resulting from the search could be inadmissible. That is true in any criminal case. Also, it's odd that you have interpreted "exculpatory evidence", which would include physical evidence, as "statements" made by the defendant. It seems like you are trying to come off like an attorney, but it is not convincing. Run a spell check if you want to appear scholarly.
Not trying to come off as anything, but a screen name. I type fast and mostly hand write things so spelling gets worse and worse working on a computer....
You're wrong on your defintion, it's just evidence plain and simple, statements, tangible, etc. The state has tons of impeachable evidence to any of AH's evidence. You take exculp campare it to impeachable.
the case is uphill, state's evidence is damning.
not sure what news article you guys are reading but, the w arrants arent' an issue they had plenty of time to prep them and then even if they f'ed up AH's acts OK'd the police's actions.
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I heard 6 murders
That's screwed up if he's getting investigated for 6. Tells you this punk thought he could just do any anyything to anybody.
NFL is full os shit bags these days they pay those players way too much!
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He could be a walk on for the Cincinnati
Felons Bengals.
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Hopefully he'll be in the documentary remake of "The Longest Yard"
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Massachusetts prosecutors filed paperwork on Thursday alleging that former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez openly discussed the slaying of Odin Lloyd in recorded phone calls he made while in prison.
The Bristol County district attorney's office requested copies of the recordings of Hernandez's phone calls in addition to a copy of his visitors log since his arrest.
MORE: Images from Hernandez investigation | Hernandez linked to 2012 slayings? | Hernandez sued by Lloyd's family
According to the paperwork filed, prosecutors are particularly interested in Hernandez's communication with his fiancee, Shayanna Jenkins, and his cousin, Tanya Cummings Singleton.
Both women are charged as accessories to murder for their suspected involvement in assisting Hernandez after he allegedly killed Lloyd.
The affidavit, written by Bristol Assistant District Attorney Roger L Michel Jr., details what the prosecution believes Hernandez has been discussing in code:
"During those conversations, the defendant has discussed the following matters directly relevant to the circumstances surrounding the murder of Odin Lloyd; viz: the defendant's subjective belief about his criminal liability; his use of coded messages to communicate with persons outside of jail; related prior offenses; inculpatory denials of ownership of a vehicle connected with the investigation; the extent of his control over persons charged as accessories; other matters relating to his codefendants, including their whereabouts and likely criminal liability.''
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The affidavit, written by Bristol Assistant District Attorney Roger L Michel Jr., details what the prosecution believes Hernandez has been discussing in code:
"During those conversations, the defendant has discussed the following matters directly relevant to the circumstances surrounding the murder of Odin Lloyd; viz: the defendant's subjective belief about his criminal liability; his use of coded messages to communicate with persons outside of jail; related prior offenses; inculpatory denials of ownership of a vehicle connected with the investigation; the extent of his control over persons charged as accessories; other matters relating to his codefendants, including their whereabouts and likely criminal liability.''
Let me gets this. He was speaking slang to his girl on the phone. What if she had played a Baile Funk song across the line? What's "Why don't you Ya or 3 5 for 7 take home!"
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Let me gets this. He was speaking slang to his girl on the phone. What if she had played a Baile Funk song across the line? What's "Why don't you Ya or 3 5 for 7 take home!"
Hey it's the white nose picker trying to appear knowledgable about mud people. And failing...again.
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This guy could get exonerated and still have as much of a chance to play in the NFL as me.