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Title: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: MCWAY on July 16, 2013, 09:42:51 PM
You can't make this stuff up if you tried.
(courtesy of DailyRushbo.com)

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Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 16, 2013, 10:23:08 PM
Quick 240, come spin this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 17, 2013, 05:10:25 AM
hahahahahaha  rush       news source for morons  :D :D
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 17, 2013, 05:32:55 AM
I think you may have accidentally called CNN a credible news source, 333386 :)

It was her direct statement.  Ashtray hated gay people. 
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 17, 2013, 05:34:23 AM
It was her direct statement.  Ashtray hated gay people. 

Rachel Jenteal - WYHI if it meant Obama would resign from office, 333386?
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 17, 2013, 05:35:39 AM
Rachel Jenteal - WYHI if it meant Obama would resign from office, 333386?

Yes. 

Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 17, 2013, 05:40:03 AM
Yes. 




would you 69 on national televiison with her?

and if so, you're an american hero.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 17, 2013, 05:49:50 AM
holy shit you are a dumb fuck,that would make him a pedophile or rapist  :D :D :D :D

Ashtray was 6 2 - not the cuddly little kid you morons keep posting pics of. 

He was a thug and died for being a thug
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Rhino on July 17, 2013, 05:50:28 AM
The only racism in this case came from black blacks. I saw no racism from the peruvian afro side. :)
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 17, 2013, 05:52:27 AM
Ashtray was 6 2 - not the cuddly little kid you morons keep posting pics of. 

He was a thug and died for being a thug

so what does this have to do with you thinking rush was right for saying gay
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 17, 2013, 05:59:45 AM
so what does this have to do with you thinking rush was right for saying gay

Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 17, 2013, 06:04:03 AM



and where does gay fall in this, boy you are fu#king dumb  :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 17, 2013, 06:05:30 AM

and where does gay fall in this, boy you are fu#king dumb  :D :D :D :D :D :D

Why would zimm follow Ashtray for a rape if he were not a twink?
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 17, 2013, 06:13:20 AM
again she was talking about a pedophile. rush said gay, to get the rushbots all excited
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 17, 2013, 06:14:48 AM
again she was talking about a pedophile. rush said gay, to get the rushbots all excited


Ashtray was 6 2 and zimm said he saw a strange man thinking Ashtray was not a kid correct? 

So again - thug dies for being a dumb thug 
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 17, 2013, 06:29:43 AM
Ashtray was 6 2 - not the cuddly little kid you morons keep posting pics of. 

He was a thug and died for being a thug

5 11, 159 pounds in autopsy.

i guess Rush added those 3 inches of height? 

5 8 and 196 pounds was zimmerman.

3 inches of difference is a lot... but it's not 6 inches, as many exaggerated.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 17, 2013, 06:34:24 AM
5 11, 159 pounds in autopsy.

i guess Rush added those 3 inches of height? 

5 8 and 196 pounds was zimmerman.

3 inches of difference is a lot... but it's not 6 inches, as many exaggerated.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 17, 2013, 06:36:48 AM


well that picture settles it  :D :D
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 17, 2013, 06:37:45 AM
well that picture settles it  :D :D

It does - that was Trayvon the night he assaulted zimm. 
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Archer77 on July 17, 2013, 06:40:10 AM
Give me a synopsis, I cant listen to Rushs voice without reaching for the OxyContin.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Straw Man on July 17, 2013, 08:58:17 AM
again she was talking about a pedophile. rush said gay, to get the rushbots all excited

LOL - so true

look at 333

the dude can't stop using the word twink

I've never seen a so called straight guy talking about twinks more than 333

Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Fury on July 17, 2013, 09:00:35 AM
LOL - so true

look at 333

the dude can't stop using the word twink

I've never seen a so called straight guy talking about twinks more than 333



Ironic because I've never seen a "so-called straight guy" spend as much time stalking another man as you do.

Creepy queer. Makes sense considering you're from the Bay Area. Castro district, I'm guessing.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 17, 2013, 09:01:54 AM
LOL - so true

look at 333

the dude can't stop using the word twink

I've never seen a so called straight guy talking about twinks more than 333



Zimm told the 9/11 operator he saw a strange man , not a strange child.   Trayvon / Jeantelle = fail   
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Straw Man on July 17, 2013, 09:04:53 AM
Ironic because I've never seen a "so-called straight guy" spend as much time stalking another man as you do.

Creepy queer. Makes sense considering you're from the Bay Area. Castro district, I'm guessing.

Jealous Fairy Much ?

Funny how you always show up whenever I start bashing your boyfriend about his fascination with twinks

Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 17, 2013, 09:06:03 AM
Jealous Fairy Much ?

Funny how you always show up whenever I start bashing your boyfriend about his fascination with twinks




So they thought Zimm was a gay pedo? 
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Straw Man on July 17, 2013, 09:20:28 AM

So they thought Zimm was a gay pedo? 

your title claims that she said that Martin beat up Zimmerman

Is that what she said

what is her exact quote
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 17, 2013, 09:47:03 AM
your title claims that she said that Martin beat up Zimmerman

Is that what she said

what is her exact quote

Creepy Ass Cracka was her quote
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Straw Man on July 17, 2013, 09:49:36 AM
Creepy Ass Cracka was her quote

so no direct quote of her saying the "Martin beat up Zimmerman"

Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 17, 2013, 09:50:30 AM
so no direct quote of her saying the "Martin beat up Zimmerman"



I don't remember claiming she did say that
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Straw Man on July 17, 2013, 10:04:18 AM
I don't remember claiming she did say that

see the title of this thread started by McWay

and your statement below

No moron - she said it on CNN. 

Like we told you - ASHtray was a thug

McWay wrote "you can't make this stuff up" but apparently you (and he and Rush) can actually make this stuff up
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 17, 2013, 10:07:58 AM


5 foot 11.  unless your 7-11 video still delivers greater detail than an autopsy report.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 17, 2013, 10:12:11 AM
5 foot 11.  unless your 7-11 video still delivers greater detail than an autopsy report.

Probably wearing Air Jordans or Timbes - ass 2"
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 17, 2013, 10:16:06 AM
Probably wearing Air Jordans or Timbes - ass 2"

and zimmerman was barefoot?   lol sorry man, doesn't fly.   3inch difference. 








or 9 millimeters, depend how you look at it
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: headhuntersix on July 17, 2013, 01:24:42 PM
This chick is 19...going on 20 and will be moving on to her senior year in highschool......yet the government will waste more money racebaiting and wasting Zimmerman's time then trying to fix real issues like 20 year old highschool seniors who barely speak english.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: MCWAY on July 17, 2013, 05:05:52 PM
follow along pea brain,she said he thought he was a rapist, not gay.get it moron  :D :D :D :D   like I said news source for morons

She also told Martin not to let Zimmerman follow him home, because his "brother" was home. So, now guys who want to rape boys ain't gay? I missed that one.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Archer77 on July 17, 2013, 05:06:59 PM
follow along pea brain,she said he thought he was a rapist, not gay.get it moron  :D :D :D :D   like I said news source for morons

Benny B?  He loved calling people pea brain.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: MCWAY on July 17, 2013, 05:07:58 PM
again she was talking about a pedophile. rush said gay, to get the rushbots all excited

Martin's under 18 and her telling him not to go home, because another boy is there for Zimmerman to supposedly rape. It seems you have about as much sense as Jeantel does.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: MCWAY on July 17, 2013, 05:14:16 PM
see the title of this thread started by McWay

and your statement below

McWay wrote "you can't make this stuff up" but apparently you (and he and Rush) can actually make this stuff up

Wrong again, O senseless one.

Per Jeantel's own words,
 
JEANTEL:  Yes.  Definitely. After I say, “Might be a rapist.”  For every boys or every man, every who’s not that kinda way, see a grown man following them, would they be creep out?  So you gotta take as a parent. You tell a child, “You see a grown person follow it you, run away,” and all that.

Now what do you supposed she meant by "not that kinda way", after claiming that Zimmerman might be a racist (keeping in mind that Martin is MALE)?

And, why is it that upon this narrative being put forth between the two, Martin returned to confront Zimmerman to give him some "whoop-@$$"?

Jeantel's the product of the Miami public schools. What's your excuse for your brain drain?

Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Skip8282 on July 17, 2013, 05:16:03 PM
So, now guys who want to rape boys ain't gay? I missed that one.


Only in the minds of retarded libs, lol.

Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: MCWAY on July 17, 2013, 05:17:34 PM

Only in the minds of retarded libs, lol.



Somehow, an Hispanic heterosexual neighborhood watch guy got turned into a white homosexual child rapist.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Skip8282 on July 17, 2013, 05:20:15 PM
Somehow, an Hispanic heterosexual neighborhood watch guy got turned into a white homosexual child rapist.



lmfao....since they lost the trial, anything is fair game in their minds.

Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: MCWAY on July 17, 2013, 05:25:56 PM
hahahahahaha  rush       news source for morons  :D :D

Try again, Speak-N-Spell boy. Jeantel made a fool of herself AGAIN on CNN (Piers Morgan), not Rush's show.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 17, 2013, 05:52:06 PM
Try again, Speak-N-Spell boy. Jeantel made a fool of herself AGAIN on CNN (Piers Morgan), not Rush's show.

hahahahaha oh retarded one, most pedophiles are not gay,but you wouldn't know that because your fox news and rush informed  :D :D :D :D :D :D  the stupid party lives  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: tonymctones on July 17, 2013, 06:03:20 PM
hahahahaha oh retarded one, most pedophiles are not gay,but you wouldn't know that because your fox news and rush informed  :D :D :D :D :D :D  the stupid party lives  :D :D :D
most ppl arent gay, I would go out on a limb and say that gays make up a disproportionate % of pedophiles
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Straw Man on July 17, 2013, 06:04:39 PM
Wrong again, O senseless one.

Per Jeantel's own words,
 
JEANTEL:  Yes.  Definitely. After I say, “Might be a rapist.”  For every boys or every man, every who’s not that kinda way, see a grown man following them, would they be creep out?  So you gotta take as a parent. You tell a child, “You see a grown person follow it you, run away,” and all that.

Now what do you supposed she meant by "not that kinda way", after claiming that Zimmerman might be a racist (keeping in mind that Martin is MALE)?

And, why is it that upon this narrative being put forth between the two, Martin returned to confront Zimmerman to give him some "whoop-@$$"?

Jeantel's the product of the Miami public schools. What's your excuse for your brain drain?



I'm not going to listen to 5 minutes of Rush

tell me what section of the 5 minute audio Jeantel says "Martin beat up Zimmerman"

I know in an interview posted on another thread she says that the thinks Zimmerman tried to detain Martin (giving Martin every right to defend himself) but I'm asking about the audio you posted to start this thread

Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 17, 2013, 06:07:48 PM
most ppl arent gay, I would go out on a limb and say that gays make up a disproportionate % of pedophiles

you can go as far out on that limb as you want,but you would still be wrong  :D :D
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Fury on July 17, 2013, 06:11:58 PM
Jeantel speaks just like that retard Blacken types. 1+1 = ?
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 17, 2013, 06:14:12 PM
Jeantel speaks just like that retard Blacken types. 1+1 = ?

did you get your own place yet,or you still on your mommy's tit,24 year old pussy  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Fury on July 17, 2013, 06:38:23 PM
did you get your own place yet,or you still on your mommy's tit,24 year old pussy  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

That reads just like Jeantel speaks. Good job, RETARD.

I'm guessing you're "educated" like she is, right?
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 17, 2013, 06:58:03 PM
That reads just like Jeantel speaks. Good job, RETARD.

I'm guessing you're "educated" like she is, right?

i'll take that as your still living with mommy  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  pathetic mama's boy  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
nice bed, berzerk fairy  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Shockwave on July 17, 2013, 08:26:04 PM
i'll take that as your still living with mommy  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  pathetic mama's boy  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
nice bed, berzerk fairy  :D :D :D :D :D

It's a fucking sweet car. I'd be jelly if that was Fury.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: MCWAY on July 17, 2013, 08:49:18 PM
hahahahaha oh retarded one, most pedophiles are not gay,but you wouldn't know that because your fox news and rush informed  :D :D :D :D :D :D  the stupid party lives  :D :D :D

We aren't talking about most pedophiles, Speak-N-Spell boy. We're talking about those male ones that go after other MALES. Those are the gay ones, Einstein. That is what Jeantel and Martin thought Zimmerman was.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: MCWAY on July 17, 2013, 08:51:48 PM
I'm not going to listen to 5 minutes of Rush

tell me what section of the 5 minute audio Jeantel says "Martin beat up Zimmerman"

I know in an interview posted on another thread she says that the thinks Zimmerman tried to detain Martin (giving Martin every right to defend himself) but I'm asking about the audio you posted to start this thread




Try listening to the Jeantel interview, for yourself. 333386 posted it. You're not avoiding it because you can't stand Rush. You're avoiding it because it blows holes in your premise.

But, just to further make the point.....(Jeantel starts at 2:05).

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Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Straw Man on July 17, 2013, 10:14:05 PM


Try listening to the Jeantel interview, for yourself. 333386 posted it. You're not avoiding it because you can't stand Rush. You're avoiding it because it blows holes in your premise.

But, just to further make the point.....(Jeantel starts at 2:05).

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I listened from 2:05 going forward

I heard a stoned sounding chick but I didn't hear her say "Martin attacked Zimmerman" or even anything close to that

that was the premise of this thread ...right?
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 17, 2013, 10:37:19 PM
maybe he didn't want the rapist learning where he was going?

I mean... If a woman is walking down the street, and creepy rapist guy with mincing glare is following her - does she lead him right to where she sleeps?  No.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 18, 2013, 06:57:33 AM
We aren't talking about most pedophiles, Speak-N-Spell boy. We're talking about those male ones that go after other MALES. Those are the gay ones, Einstein. That is what Jeantel and Martin thought Zimmerman was.

wrong again mr rushbot,but it's to be expected when you get your news from rush and Hannity and are proud of it :D :D :D :D :D :D

THE FACTS
 According to the American Psychological Association, "homosexual men are not more likely to sexually abuse children than heterosexual men are." Gregory Herek, a professor at the University of California, Davis, who is one of the nation's leading researchers on prejudice against sexual minorities, reviewed a series of studies and found no evidence that gay men molest children at higher rates than heterosexual men.

Anti-gay activists who make that claim allege that all men who molest male children should be seen as homosexual. But research by A. Nicholas Groth, a pioneer in the field of sexual abuse of children, shows that is not so. Groth found that there are two types of child molesters: fixated and regressive. The fixated child molester — the stereotypical pedophile — cannot be considered homosexual or heterosexual because "he often finds adults of either sex repulsive" and often molests children of both sexes. Regressive child molesters are generally attracted to other adults, but may "regress" to focusing on children when confronted with stressful situations. Groth found that the majority of regressed offenders were heterosexual in their adult relationships.

The Child Molestation Research and Prevention Institute notes that 90% of child molesters target children in their network of family and friends. Most child molesters, therefore, are not gay people lingering outside schools waiting to snatch children from the playground, as much religious-right rhetoric suggests.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this would explain your retarded thinking  :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 18, 2013, 07:02:42 AM
wrong again mr rushbot,but it's to be expected when you get your news from rush  :D :D :D :D :D :D

THE FACTS
 According to the American Psychological Association, "homosexual men are not more likely to sexually abuse children than heterosexual men are." Gregory Herek, a professor at the University of California, Davis, who is one of the nation's leading researchers on prejudice against sexual minorities, reviewed a series of studies and found no evidence that gay men molest children at higher rates than heterosexual men.

Anti-gay activists who make that claim allege that all men who molest male children should be seen as homosexual. But research by A. Nicholas Groth, a pioneer in the field of sexual abuse of children, shows that is not so. Groth found that there are two types of child molesters: fixated and regressive. The fixated child molester — the stereotypical pedophile — cannot be considered homosexual or heterosexual because "he often finds adults of either sex repulsive" and often molests children of both sexes. Regressive child molesters are generally attracted to other adults, but may "regress" to focusing on children when confronted with stressful situations. Groth found that the majority of regressed offenders were heterosexual in their adult relationships.

The Child Molestation Research and Prevention Institute notes that 90% of child molesters target children in their network of family and friends. Most child molesters, therefore, are not gay people lingering outside schools waiting to snatch children from the playground, as much religious-right rhetoric suggests.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this would explain your retarded thinking  :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 18, 2013, 07:46:49 AM
maybe he didn't want the rapist learning where he was going?

I mean... If a woman is walking down the street, and creepy rapist guy with mincing glare is following her - does she lead him right to where she sleeps?  No.

Would you guys lead a rapist to your front door?

Zimm did have that mincing pedophile look to him... that creepy smirk grin...  maybe he did want to rape a minor.

It's not like he had a history of sexually assaulting minors, right guys?
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Fury on July 18, 2013, 08:03:26 AM
Would you guys lead a rapist to your front door?

Zimm did have that mincing pedophile look to him... that creepy smirk grin...  maybe he did want to rape a minor.

It's not like he had a history of sexually assaulting minors, right guys?

Oh, I see. That makes it alright to beat the shit out of him. Good thing that bigot got shot then. What you're saying is that he was a bigoted loose cannon who couldn't control his emotions and was prone to violence against people he had a problem with. Probably would have ended up killing someone down the road anyway.

Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Pray_4_War on July 18, 2013, 08:40:12 AM
As I understand it Jeantel was on the phone with Trayvon while he was being followed by Zimmerman.  Trayvon said he was being followed by a creepy ass cracker.  Jeantel said that she told Trayvon to run away from Zimmerman because they thought he was a homo/rapist.  She said instead of running away Trayvon tried to whoop Zimmerman's ass.  Then she claimed that it was Zimmerman's fault for not understanding that Trayvon's intention was to whoop his ass, not to kill him. There is more to the story but I am just paraphrasing the most relevant parts.  Again this is not speculation, this is a direct statement coming from someone who was on the phone with Trayvon while all of this was in progress.

This isn't coming from RUSH this is coming from an interview on CNN that Pierce Morgan did with Jeantel. 
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 18, 2013, 08:52:41 AM
As I understand it Jeantel was on the phone with Trayvon while he was being followed by Zimmerman.  Trayvon said he was being followed by a creepy ass cracker.  Jeantel said that she told Trayvon to run away from Zimmerman because they thought he was a homo/rapist.  She said instead of running away Trayvon tried to whoop Zimmerman's ass.  Then she claimed that it was Zimmerman's fault for not understanding that Trayvon's intention was to whoop his ass, not to kill him. There is more to the story but I am just paraphrasing the most relevant parts.  Again this is not speculation, this is a direct statement coming from someone who was on the phone with Trayvon while all of this was in progress.

This isn't coming from RUSH this is coming from an interview on CNN that Pierce Morgan did with Jeantel. 

wrong, she never said gay or homo that that was the fat pig rush that said that to get his retarded listeners all excited
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Pray_4_War on July 18, 2013, 09:04:05 AM
wrong, she never said gay or homo that that was the fat pig rush that said that to get his retarded listeners all excited

She said that anyone who is not "that kind of way" would be creeped out.  "That kind of way" refers to being homosexual as anyone with half a brain could see.  They were concerned that Zimmerman might have been intending to make buttsex to Trayvon against his will.  There is no other way to interpret what she said.  It's crystal clear.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 18, 2013, 09:06:54 AM
She said that anyone who is not "that kind of way" would be creeped out.  "That kind of way" refers to being homosexual as anyone with half a brain could see.  They were concerned that Zimmerman might have been intending to make buttsex to Trayvon against his will.  There is no other way to interpret what she said.  It's crystal clear.

Unless you are a radical leftist
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Archer77 on July 18, 2013, 09:07:53 AM
She said that anyone who is not "that kind of way" would be creeped out.  "That kind of way" refers to being homosexual as anyone with half a brain could see.  They were concerned that Zimmerman might have been intending to make buttsex to Trayvon against his will.  There is no other way to interpret what she said.  It's crystal clear.

I dont normally agree with P4W but I see his point.  People often don't make the distinction between being gay and being a pedophile.  It wouldn't make sense if she meant pedophile when she said "that kind of way".  Pedophiles don't normally pursue other pedophiles for sex.  
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 18, 2013, 09:09:28 AM
I dont normally agree with P4W but I see his point.  People often don't make the distinction between being gay and being a pedophile.  It wouldn't make sense if she meant pedophile when she said "that kind of way".  Pedophiles don't normally pursue other pedophiles for sex.  

Maybe Zimm thought Tray was a pedo? 
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 18, 2013, 09:18:53 AM
I dont normally agree with P4W but I see his point.  People often don't make the distinction between being gay and being a pedophile.  It wouldn't make sense if she meant pedophile when she said "that kind of way".  Pedophiles don't normally pursue other pedophiles for sex.  

she was talking about rapist at the time,rush put the word gay in his retarded listeners heads
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Archer77 on July 18, 2013, 09:28:40 AM
she was talking about rapist at the time,rush put the word gay in his retarded listeners heads

I don't agree.  The inference strongly implies something other than a pedophile or rapist.  


JEANTEL:  "Yes.  Definitely. After I say, "Might be a rapist."  For every boys or every man, every who's not that kinda way, see a grown man following them, would they be creep out?  So you gotta take as a parent. You tell a child, "You see a grown person follow it you, run away," and all that."
 
This is what it would look like if you added the word rapist.


JEANTEL:  Yes.  Definitely. After I say, "Might be a rapist."  For every boys or every man, every who's not a rapist, see a grown man following them, would they be creep out?  So you gotta take as a parent. You tell a child, "You see a grown person follow it you, run away," and all that.

When you substitute with the word rapist her statement completely changes.  

Now use the word gay.

JEANTEL:  Yes.  Definitely. After I say, "Might be a rapist."  For every boys or every man, every who's not gay, see a grown man following them, would they be creep out?  So you gotta take as a parent. You tell a child, "You see a grown person follow it you, run away," and all that.

Her statement now makes sense.


Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Straw Man on July 18, 2013, 09:32:58 AM
I don't agree.  The inference strongly implies something other than a pedophile or rapist.  


JEANTEL:  "Yes.  Definitely. After I say, "Might be a rapist."  For every boys or every man, every who's not that kinda way, see a grown man following them, would they be creep out?  So you gotta take as a parent. You tell a child, "You see a grown person follow it you, run away," and all that."
 
This is what it would look like if you added the word rapist.


JEANTEL:  Yes.  Definitely. After I say, "Might be a rapist."  For every boys or every man, every who's not a rapist, see a grown man following them, would they be creep out?  So you gotta take as a parent. You tell a child, "You see a grown person follow it you, run away," and all that.

When you substitute with the word rapist her statement completely changes.  

Now use the word gay.

JEANTEL:  Yes.  Definitely. After I say, "Might be a rapist."  For every boys or every man, every who's not gay, see a grown man following them, would they be creep out?  So you gotta take as a parent. You tell a child, "You see a grown person follow it you, run away," and all that.

Her statement now makes sense.




it makes no sense when you change the word to gay

do children or teenagers run away from gay people ?

Children and conditioned from an early age to be on the lookout for predator types like child molestors, etc.. but that's not congruent with "gay"

 
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 18, 2013, 09:34:47 AM
she was talking about rapist at the time,rush put the word gay in his retarded listeners heads

 ::)  ::)

"Not THAT way" means she thought Zimm was an OTwink like as in a gay
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 18, 2013, 09:36:21 AM
I guess i'm not in her head,thank god  ;D,someone would have to ask her to see what she really meant
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Archer77 on July 18, 2013, 09:38:36 AM
it makes no sense when you change the word to gay

do children or teenagers run away from gay people ?

Children and conditioned from an early age to be on the lookout for predator types like child molestors, etc.. but that's not congruent with "gay"

 

You're really stretching it.  It makes perfect sense if you use the word gay.   It doesn't make sense when you use the word rapist.  What she ends up saying if your interpretation is correct is, rapist arent concerned with other men following them. Yes, people run away from gay people when they falsely associate gay with pedophile as she did.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 18, 2013, 09:38:52 AM
::)  ::)

"Not THAT way" means she thought Zimm was an OTwink like as in a gay

see,this is proof about rush putting gay in his retarded listeners head
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Archer77 on July 18, 2013, 09:40:07 AM
I'm really at a loss how so many people are emotionally involved in this case and can't separate themselves. I am trying to look at this logically. It's not personal.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 18, 2013, 09:41:03 AM
see,this is proof about rush putting gay in his retarded listeners head

I don't listen to Rush - what she said is obvious - Ashtray was a homophobe
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 18, 2013, 09:43:03 AM
I don't listen to Rush - what she said is obvious - Ashtray was a homophobe

oh one of those that doesn,t like to admit it,don't blame you
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Archer77 on July 18, 2013, 09:43:21 AM
I don't listen to Rush - what she said is obvious - Ashtray was a homophobe

I don't know if we can go that far.  He thought he was being followed by a rapist which is understandable.  I'm really arguing semantics.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 18, 2013, 09:44:22 AM
I don't know if we can go that far.  He thought he was being followed by a rapist which is understandable.  I'm really arguing semantics.

Why would zimm be a straight rapist if he were following Trayvon for sex?   ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Archer77 on July 18, 2013, 09:47:42 AM
Why would zimm be a straight rapist if he were following Trayvon for sex?   ;D  ;D  ;D

You can kind of understand a teenager wondering why a grown man was following him.   Jeantel did mean gay but I don't think that has any bearing on whether Martin was a homophobe.  This affirms in my mind this situation was a confluence of events and false assumptions.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 18, 2013, 09:48:31 AM
she was all over the place on what she was saying first rapist then at the end she was talking about pedophiles
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 18, 2013, 09:48:58 AM
she was all over the place on what she was saying first rapist then at the end she was talking about pedophiles

So Zimm was a gay pedo? 
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Archer77 on July 18, 2013, 09:50:43 AM
she was all over the place on what she was saying first rapist then at the end she was talking about pedophiles

I understand that but it seems clear she was referring to gay in general when she said " not that kind of way".  I don't think conceding this point reflects on trayvon at all.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: blacken700 on July 18, 2013, 09:51:13 AM
So Zimm was a gay pedo? 

you would have to ask her,she like yourself speaks mostly jibberish  ;D
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Pray_4_War on July 18, 2013, 11:45:23 AM
Are people really trying to pretend they don't know what she meant?  Please dude.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 18, 2013, 12:02:22 PM
I'm sure jabba told trayvon "Kick his ass!".   Sure of it.

Aside from that, zimm was accused of an underage sex crime.  So following trayvon because he wanted to bone him?  ya never know.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Archer77 on July 18, 2013, 12:05:07 PM
I'm sure jabba told trayvon "Kick his ass!".   Sure of it.

Aside from that, zimm was accused of an underage sex crime.  So following trayvon because he wanted to bone him?  ya never know.

He liked the girls.  Predators hunt within their preference.  Sometimes they don't but its rare.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Fury on July 18, 2013, 12:16:28 PM
The molestation charges were dropped last month because after careful examination it was discovered that the "cousin" was dating a friend of Trayvon Martin's. the friend had been in juvenile hall for guess what .....sexual battery of a minor child. (BBC...7/1/13)



Can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Necrosis on July 18, 2013, 01:21:29 PM
Why would zimm follow Ashtray for a rape if he were not a twink?

She is talking about pedophilia you fucking idiot. A grown man (someone older implied) following a young boy (trayvon), he might be a rapist.

Learn some reading comprehension.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Necrosis on July 18, 2013, 01:28:32 PM
We aren't talking about most pedophiles, Speak-N-Spell boy. We're talking about those male ones that go after other MALES. Those are the gay ones, Einstein. That is what Jeantel and Martin thought Zimmerman was.



It's like a woman being followed by a man and her lesbian wife saying, oh no there is a heterosexual behind me he wants to rape. I think being a rapist is the concern, not the sexuality. And of course with your stupid logic she is of course a heterophobe due to the concerns of late night stalking, age difference, danger laden situational rape.

In daylight at a crowded mall she cowers as the straights walk by.

Who cares of inference and context right?
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Pray_4_War on July 18, 2013, 02:53:23 PM
This is fucking pathetic.  Some of you either...


a.  did not see or hear Jeantel's CNN interview

b.  are mentally retarded

c.  are purposely being dishonest about your understanding of what she said


Either way, it's a fucking disgrace and you should fuck off immediately.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Necrosis on July 18, 2013, 04:30:28 PM
This is fucking pathetic.  Some of you either...


a.  did not see or hear Jeantel's CNN interview

b.  are mentally retarded

c.  are purposely being dishonest about your understanding of what she said


Either way, it's a fucking disgrace and you should fuck off immediately.

so it wasn't the age difference? time and place but the fact that he might be sexually attracted to men? I get what you are confused about, but in now way does this indicate trayvon's attitude or morals. This thread title is retarded.

Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Pray_4_War on July 18, 2013, 04:43:18 PM
so it wasn't the age difference? time and place but the fact that he might be sexually attracted to men? I get what you are confused about, but in now way does this indicate trayvon's attitude or morals. This thread title is retarded.



I'm just going by Rachel Jeantel words.  Her point wasn't unclear at all.

If I were you I wouldn't bring up Trayvon's attitude and morals.  Unlike Zimmerman's alleged racism, there is quite a bit of evidence regarding that.  That evidence doesn't paint a flattering picture of the young man either.   
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 18, 2013, 06:13:19 PM
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: MCWAY on July 18, 2013, 08:49:32 PM


It's like a woman being followed by a man and her lesbian wife saying, oh no there is a heterosexual behind me he wants to rape. I think being a rapist is the concern, not the sexuality. And of course with your stupid logic she is of course a heterophobe due to the concerns of late night stalking, age difference, danger laden situational rape.

In daylight at a crowded mall she cowers as the straights walk by.

Who cares of inference and context right?

Look who's taking about stupid logic, the poster boy of buffoonery (or one of them).

Jeantel is the one who made the assertion. Guys who want to bone other guys are GAY. The rapist part simply means he wants to do that with another male, whether the other male consents or not.

And that means that, if there's any "hate crime" or "civil rights" violation, it's on Martin for beating up a guy he thought was a homo.

At the end of the day, this imbecile is a large (literally) reason why Zimmerman is walking. She took a sledgehammer to the sweet angelic Trayvon Martin mosaic, painted by the left (one you probably bought hook, line, and sinker).
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: MCWAY on July 21, 2013, 11:00:26 AM
wrong again mr rushbot,but it's to be expected when you get your news from rush and Hannity and are proud of it :D :D :D :D :D :D

THE FACTS
 According to the American Psychological Association, "homosexual men are not more likely to sexually abuse children than heterosexual men are." Gregory Herek, a professor at the University of California, Davis, who is one of the nation's leading researchers on prejudice against sexual minorities, reviewed a series of studies and found no evidence that gay men molest children at higher rates than heterosexual men.

Anti-gay activists who make that claim allege that all men who molest male children should be seen as homosexual. But research by A. Nicholas Groth, a pioneer in the field of sexual abuse of children, shows that is not so. Groth found that there are two types of child molesters: fixated and regressive. The fixated child molester — the stereotypical pedophile — cannot be considered homosexual or heterosexual because "he often finds adults of either sex repulsive" and often molests children of both sexes. Regressive child molesters are generally attracted to other adults, but may "regress" to focusing on children when confronted with stressful situations. Groth found that the majority of regressed offenders were heterosexual in their adult relationships.

The Child Molestation Research and Prevention Institute notes that 90% of child molesters target children in their network of family and friends. Most child molesters, therefore, are not gay people lingering outside schools waiting to snatch children from the playground, as much religious-right rhetoric suggests.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this would explain your retarded thinking  :D :D :D :D :D :D

If you and Jeantel are sharing the same brain, please give it back to her as you are sounding even more like an IMBECILE than you normally do.

One more time, DOOFUS, I never said that most pedophiles were gay. NOBODY DID. When you're done prying your foot out of your mouth, read that again.

It was Rachel Jeantel, who brought up the notion that Zimmerman was pursuing Martin to rape him. And, it was Rachel Jeantel who told Martin not to go home, for fear that Zimmerman might go after Martin's brother (which is really his daddy's girlfriend's son) and rape him.

So, if she thinks Zimmerman is trying to rape Martin and the son his daddy's girlfriend, it means she (and Martin, by her own testimony) THOUGHT ZIMMERMAN WAS GAY (no matter what percentage of pedophiles are heterosexual).


As for the American Psychiatric Association, they've long been exposed as being in the tank for gay activists, which is why they removed homosexuality from its mental disorders list. Not to mention, there's that little association with NAMBLA.

And, yes, I got information from Limbaugh's site among others and make no apologies for it. But, of course, those are excerpts from the CNN interview with Jeantel. When I saw the actual footage from the interview itself, it merely shows that Rush did her a favor, as she looks even more like an dodo-brain in the uncut footage.

If she gets any dumber, she'd be.....well.....YOU!!
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: MCWAY on July 21, 2013, 11:10:56 AM
wrong, she never said gay or homo that that was the fat pig rush that said that to get his retarded listeners all excited

Try again, genius. From Jeantel's own mouth:

Yes! I say 'Might be rapist'. For every boys, or every man, who's not that kinda way, see a grown man following them....would they be creep out?"

Rape means having sex with someone who DOES NOT or CANNOT consent. Zimmerman and Martin are both GUYS. Zimmerman allegedly wanted to have sex with Martin (whether Martin consented or not). Therefore, Zimmerman is allegedly GAY, per Jeantel's statement. But, of course, that simple aspect escape the porous sponge, woefully disguised as your brain.

Gee....I wonder what she meant by "not that kinda way"  ::)
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 21, 2013, 11:12:46 AM
Try again, genius. From Jeantel's own mouth:

Yes! I say 'Might be rapist'. For every boys, or every man, who's not that kinda way, see a grown man following them....would they be creep out?"

Gee....I wonder what she meant by "not that kinda way"  ::)

Maybe they thought zimm was a republican?
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: MCWAY on July 21, 2013, 11:15:57 AM
Maybe they thought zimm was a republican?

But, Zimmerman's a Democrat, an Hispanic one to boot.

Yet, to meet the left's narrative, he became a white racist (and supposedly homosexual) rapist.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: MCWAY on July 21, 2013, 11:31:43 AM
She is talking about pedophilia you fucking idiot. A grown man (someone older implied) following a young boy (trayvon), he might be a rapist.

Learn some reading comprehension.

Take your own advice.

What did Jeantel mean by "For every boys, for every man, who's not that kinda way...."?

Not that kinda way? Hmmm....what are the odds that she's taking about GAY people?

One more time, Rhodes Scholars, Zimmerman and Martin are both GUYS.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Necrosis on July 21, 2013, 01:35:26 PM
I'm just going by Rachel Jeantel words.  Her point wasn't unclear at all.

If I were you I wouldn't bring up Trayvon's attitude and morals.  Unlike Zimmerman's alleged racism, there is quite a bit of evidence regarding that.  That evidence doesn't paint a flattering picture of the young man either.   

I Don't give a fuck about traycon martin, He is a shitstain on society most likely, the verdict was right from a factual point of view and you guys are wrong about this.She was worried he was a gay rapist, not that he was gay.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 21, 2013, 01:37:12 PM
I Don't give a fuck about traycon martin, He is a shitstain on society most likely, the verdict was right from a factual point of view and you guys are wrong about this.She was worried he was a gay rapist, not that he was gay.

If zimm was a straight rapist - why would ashtray be scared?
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Skip8282 on July 21, 2013, 06:57:48 PM
I Don't give a fuck about traycon martin, He is a shitstain on society most likely, the verdict was right from a factual point of view and you guys are wrong about this.She was worried he was a gay rapist, not that he was gay.




Trayvon was not a shitstain on society.  He made a bad decision. 

And, truth be told, even a dead American teen is greater than a pathetic, retarded, semi-literate, Canadian twat like you.

Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on July 22, 2013, 03:29:05 AM
Try again, genius. From Jeantel's own mouth:

Yes! I say 'Might be rapist'. For every boys, or every man, who's not that kinda way, see a grown man following them....would they be creep out?"

Rape means having sex with someone who DOES NOT or CANNOT consent. Zimmerman and Martin are both GUYS. Zimmerman allegedly wanted to have sex with Martin (whether Martin consented or not). Therefore, Zimmerman is allegedly GAY, per Jeantel's statement. But, of course, that simple aspect escape the porous sponge, woefully disguised as your brain.

Gee....I wonder what she meant by "not that kinda way"  ::)

Damn, it is painful as hell reading any quoted remarks from that hulking mass of dark ugly.
Title: Re: Rachel Jeantel claims Martin basically beat up Zimmerman, thinking he was GAY!
Post by: Necrosis on July 22, 2013, 12:45:59 PM



Trayvon was not a shitstain on society.  He made a bad decision. 

And, truth be told, even a dead American teen is greater than a pathetic, retarded, semi-literate, Canadian twat like you.



Meltdown my god. Calm down you loser.