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hahaha I can see the race baiting libtards going into hyper meltdown mode now...
http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-emerged-hiding-truck-crash-rescue-174553647--abc-news-topstories.html
"George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue a family who was trapped in an overturned vehicle, police said today.
Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of Dana and Mark Gerstle and their two children, who were trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla. at approximately 5:45 p.m. Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.
The crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said. The crash site is less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.
By the time police arrived, two people - including Zimmerman - had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff's office said. No one was reported to be injured."
cue 180 and the rest of the liberal goof troop...3....2....1....N OW!!!
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Somehow, someway...they'll find a way to vilify this.
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Somehow, someway...they'll find a way to vilify this.
absolutely or make it a conspiracy theory...if 180 can imagine up holograms for 9/11 who knows what that retard could do with this
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the day before the trayvon shooting, zimm was a busybody that assaulted a cop, beat his woman, and voted obama.
now he's the hero of the right. Makes sense from the bunch that worshipped sarah fcking palin. and lifetime lib trump after that.
no surprise. I guess. Can't find a hero that isn't a total fckup.
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the day before the trayvon shooting, zimm was a busybody that assaulted a cop, beat his woman, and voted obama.
now he's the hero of the right. Makes sense from the bunch that worshipped sarah fcking palin. and lifetime lib trump after that.
no surprise. I guess. Can't find a hero that isn't a total fckup.
This is America. We believe in second chances.
Helping the homeless, mentoring minority youths, vigilant in ensuring well maintained roads and saving a family from potential death. Sounds okay in my book.
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This is America. We believe in second chances.
Helping the homeless, mentoring minority youths, vigilant in ensuring well maintained roads and saving a family from potential death. Sounds okay in my book.
yeah i guess you're right. Kobe pretty much assraped a teenage girl, and he's MVP and a hero a year or two later. America is forgiving.
It's funny to think... 10 or 12 years from now... zimm might be running for congress lol. Repubs LOVE ths guy, despite his past (before the shooting).
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This is America. We believe in second chances.
Helping the homeless, mentoring minority youths, vigilant in ensuring well maintained roads and saving a family from potential death. Sounds okay in my book.
fuck yeah
it would by a crying shame if someone falsely judged poor Zimmerman and thought he was a criminal
then again you can't judge gods plan
he's got all this shit planned out in advance
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fuck yeah
it would by a crying shame if someone falsely judged poor Zimmerman and thought he was a criminal
then again you can't judge gods plan
he's got all this shit planned out in advance
Ashtray was actually a criminal.
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Ashtray was actually a criminal.
with fewer convictions than zimmerman.
maybe they both sucked. Can we just agree on that?
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Zimmerman is in a new Geico insurance commercial he SAVED more than 15% on his car insurance :D :D :D :D
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Zimmerman is in a new Geico insurance commercial he SAVED more than 15% on his car insurance :D :D :D :D
Zimm is the fucking man. He is lik a modern day DeNiro from Taxi Driver
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Zimm is the fucking man. He is lik a modern day DeNiro from Taxi Driver
LOL
An obese coward and borderline retard who claims to be the one heard squealing like a little girl as he is getting his ass handed to him by a 17 year old kid is some kind of hero to you ?
Well, given that you also worshiped Sarah Palin I guess we shouldn't be surprised by your low standards
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LOL
An obese coward and borderline retard who claims to be the one heard squealing like a little girl as he is getting his ass handed to him by a 17 year old kid is some kind of hero to you ?
Well, given that you also worshiped Sarah Palin I guess we shouldn't be surprised by your low standards
You worship Obama ;D ;D
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You worship Obama ;D ;D
you think everyone who voted for him worships him (something you project onto others) but you actually admit that you truly worship this fat, stupid, wimpy loser
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you think everyone who voted for him worships him (something you project onto others) but you actually admit that you truly worship this fat, stupid, wimpy loser
Zimm has done more to help this country in th span of 2 years than O-TWINK has in his entire life
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you think everyone who voted for him worships him (something you project onto others) but you actually admit that you truly worship this fat, stupid, wimpy loser
Show me where you have a fundemental difference of opinion with Obama. I suspect if you do that it could be that his positions on certain things look similar to Bush's. Other then that I think you Obama ball washers can't admit that you were wrong about this guy and should have voted for Hil.
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Zimm has done more to help this country in th span of 2 years than O-TWINK has in his entire life
moronic statement
all he has done is cost the state of Florida a shit load of money all due to his own stupidity
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I'd say the over zealous DA caused all this when she refused to listen to the cops who didn't want to prosecute this weak case...but lets not disrupt the narrative of racism.
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I'd say the over zealous DA caused all this when she refused to listen to the cops who didn't want to prosecute this weak case...but lets not disrupt the narrative of racism.
an overzealous DA did not cause Zimmerman to falsely profile and stalk Martin
Zimmerman's defective brain caused that
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an overzealous DA did not cause Zimmerman to falsely profile and stalk Martin
Zimmerman's defective brain caused that
LOL - ASHtray was a thug and criminal - no big loss
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LOL - ASHtray was a thug and criminal - no big loss
FUCK YOU
he was a 17 year old kid doing nothing wrong that had his entire life ahead of him
you're an example of someone who would be no big loss if you dropped dead today
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FUCK YOU
he was a 17 year old kid doing nothing wrong that had his entire life ahead of him
you're an example of someone who would be no big loss if you dropped dead today
He already had a long record of being a criminal from possessing stolen jewelry, drug abuse, racism, fighting, gang signs over twitter, you name it.
nolimitnigga met his limit when he decided to assault Zimm.
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He already had a long record of being a criminal from possessing stolen jewelry, drug abuse, racism, fighting, gang signs over twitter, you name it.
nolimitnigga met his limit when he decided to assault Zimm.
you're not really a lawyer are you?
Martin was never charged with any crime and had no criminal record
His English teacher called him "an A and B student" and his suspensions were for tardiness and truancy, graffiti and having a marijuana pipe and an empty bag with pot residue. All that shit is very minor, not violent and not that uncommon.
Zimm on the other hand was a borderline retard who flunked basic education classes and couldn't even graduate from some lame ass community college
You are a bottom feeder lawyer who is unemployable and spend your life posting lies on a message board
If either you or Zimmerman dropped dead today the world wouldn't skip and beat and probably be a slightly better place.
Certainly, there are another 10 million right wing morons ready to fill the gap left by you and can easily step in and spend their lives posting lies on obscure message boards
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:'( :'(
you're not really a lawyer are you?
Martin was never charged with any crime and had no criminal record
His English teacher called him "an A and B student" and his suspensions were for tardiness and truancy, graffiti and having a marijuana pipe and an empty bag with pot residue. All that shit is very minor, not violent and not that uncommon.
Zimm on the other hand was a borderline retard who flunked basic education classes and couldn't even graduate from some lame ass community college
You are a bottom feeder lawyer who is unemployable and spend your life posting lies on a message board
If either you or Zimmerman dropped dead today the world wouldn't skip and beat and probably be a slightly better place.
Certainly, there are another 10 million right wing morons ready to fill the gap left by you and can easily step in and spend their lives posting lies on obscure message boards
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:'( :'(
I see you can't refute one thing that I have said
just a reminder of your lies
Martin had no criminal record and was suspended for very minor and non-violent things
I know gold teeth scare the piss out of you but then that doesn't seem too weird considering your hero worship of a obese, retarded wimp who squeals like an 8 year old girl who just saw a spider
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Trayvon was going to jail or dead by 20 regardless - why you care so much?
I see you can't refute one thing that I have said
just a reminder of your lies
Martin had no criminal record and was suspended for very minor and non-violent things
I know gold teeth scare the piss out of you but then that doesn't seem too weird considering your hero worship of a obese, retarded wimp who squeals like an 8 year old girl who just saw a spider
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I'd say the over zealous DA caused all this when she refused to listen to the cops who didn't want to prosecute this weak case...but lets not disrupt the narrative of racism.
overcharging.
aggriv assault or something - with all the changes in his story, that would have stuck.
DA wanted to win re-election.
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Trayvon was going to jail or dead by 20 regardless - why you care so much?
fucking moronic statement
the kid had no criminal record and was breaking no laws when he was shot to death
By 20 he would have likely been a sophomore in college given that his mother was a college graduate and his brother was a senior in college
worst case he could had a better chance of graduating from community college than the fat loser who killed him
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an overzealous DA did not cause Zimmerman to falsely profile and stalk Martin
Zimmerman's defective brain caused that
How is doing his job as neighborhood watch captain stalking someone? There had been a rash of home invasions in the area from young black men, so the profile fit, seeing a young black man who appeared to be on drugs walking slowly between houses.
Either way, Trayvon through the first punch, which is assault, then proceeded to jump on top of Zimmerman and bash his head in, which is now attempted murder.
Classic self defense, nothing more, nothing less. If Trayvon would have succeeded in acquiring Zimmerans gun and it was Zimmerman who would have died, this would have been an open and shut murder case and Trayvon would be getting ass fucked in prison right now.
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How is doing his job as neighborhood watch captain stalking someone? There had been a rash of home invasions in the area from young black men, so the profile fit, seeing a young black man who appeared to be on drugs walking slowly between houses.
Either way, Trayvon through the first punch, which is assault, then proceeded to jump on top of Zimmerman and bash his head in, which is now attempted murder.
Classic self defense, nothing more, nothing less. If Trayvon would have succeeded in acquiring Zimmerans gun and it was Zimmerman who would have died, this would have been an open and shut murder case and Trayvon would be getting ass fucked in prison right now.
no proof of that
if you have proof then post it
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no proof of that
if you have proof then post it
Zimmermans testimony which is corroborated by eye witness accounts and evidence such as wounds on Trayvons hands/knuckles, no wounds on Zimmermans knuckles. Apparently you paid attention to the media circus and not the facts of the case or you would have known this already.
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Zimmermans testimony which is corroborated by eye witness accounts and evidence such as wounds on Trayvons hands/knuckles, no wounds on Zimmermans knuckles. Apparently you paid attention to the media circus and not the facts of the case or you would have known this already.
Zimmerman never testified at the trial
He did however lie under oath at his bond hearing
there were no witnesses who saw the fight start
neither the defense or prosecution was able to prove who started the fight
apparently you didn't actually pay attention to the facts presented during the trial or you would know all this and wouldn't make a statement that you can't prove (and in fact that no one can prove)
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Zimmermans testimony which is corroborated by eye witness accounts and evidence such as wounds on Trayvons hands/knuckles, no wounds on Zimmermans knuckles. Apparently you paid attention to the media circus and not the facts of the case or you would have known this already.
the shoot was legal - but we don't know who threw first punch, only that zimm took an ass whooping. He might have swung twice and missed for all we know. More likely, maybe he tried to take down/detail trayvon. Or maybe trayvon started it with the first punch.
Zimm lied about a lot of things about the shooting -e xaggerated a few things over and over with each retelling - so he isn't credible.
but it doesn't matter, because under FL law, the shoot ITSELF was legal. Still, it would be very presumptuous to claim we know who started the fight just because we know who was doing the ass kicking and who finished it. I could take a swing at floyd mayweather and miss completely and get stomped - and i still started the fight.
SO it's okay for ppl to say "we don't know who started it - no credible evidence, since NOODY SAW IT START except the 2 combatants, and one is dead and one is a liar - but it doesnt matter because jury decided shoot was legal :)
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this is where many people (myself included) let their emotions get away from them in this case.
we dont have evidence who started the fight. So he walked. Any zimm supporter who "knows" Trayvon started it is lying to themselves.
Zimm beat a murder rap... Now, the NEXT time he has an 'incident', I don't care how legal it is... it'll be OJ all over again... Jury will give him 35 years for jaywalking lol...
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Zimmerman never testified at the trial
He did however lie under oath at his bond hearing
there were no witnesses who saw the fight start
neither the defense or prosecution was able to prove who started the fight
apparently you didn't actually pay attention to the facts presented during the trial or you would know all this and wouldn't make a statement that you can't prove (and in fact that no one can prove)
There was no motivation for Zimmerman to attack Trayvon, no motive, no reasonable conclusion can be made to state he started it. Trayvon was high on "leen" a drug concoction known to cause increased aggression and paranoia, even his girlfriend who was speaking to him on the phone said he sounded paranoid.
People who are involved in traumatic events often change their story quite a few times after it happens. In a life and death situation, it's not easy to recall the exact happenings of what took place, this is common amongst victims of violent crimes.
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People who are involved in traumatic events often change their story quite a few times after it happens. In a life and death situation, it's not easy to recall the exact happenings of what took place, this is common amongst victims of violent crimes.
especially when it means they won't be going to prison, after they've chatted with thier judge dad, and the new details make it a legal shoot ;)
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especially when it means they won't be going to prison, after they've chatted with thier judge dad, and the new details make it a legal shoot ;)
Without any evidence of such, you're just pulling a CNN and making the details up to fit your agenda, ala the edited 9/11 tapes to make it sound like he was racist.
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especially when it means they won't be going to prison, after they've chatted with thier judge dad, and the new details make it a legal shoot ;)
yup you know better than the head officer investigating the incident that said he thought zimmerman was telling the truth and that the changes were insignificant.
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Without any evidence of such, you're just pulling a CNN and making the details up to fit your agenda, ala the edited 9/11 tapes to make it sound like he was racist.
version #1 - he saw my gun
version #2 - he reached for my gun
version #3 - he grabbed my gun
Kinda a big difference when version #3 makes it legal to shoot a motherfvker, and version 1 is completely not a reason you can cap someone, and you talked with daddy between versions #1 and #3 lol...
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yup you know better than the head officer investigating the incident that said he thought zimmerman was telling the truth and that the changes were insignificant.
the head investigator wanted to charge him with manslaughter that night, tony.
even telling the truth, it was manslaughter, he thought. not murder, but not innocent either. you knew this, right?
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-case-lead-investigator-wanted-to-arrest-zimmerman-after-shooting
http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/state/report--lead-investigator-wanted-to-arrest-zimmerman-for-shooting-unarmed-teen
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the head investigator wanted to charge him with manslaughter that night, tony.
even telling the truth, it was manslaughter, he thought. not murder, but not innocent either. you knew this, right?
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-case-lead-investigator-wanted-to-arrest-zimmerman-after-shooting
http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/state/report--lead-investigator-wanted-to-arrest-zimmerman-for-shooting-unarmed-teen
thats perfectly fine, but dont try and use that as grounds to say he was lying you moron...the lead investigator said he was telling the truth and they were insignificant
so if you think he was credible for wanting manslaughter he is credible on zimmerman telling the truth and his view that the changes didnt mean shit...going off your idiocy
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version #1 - he saw my gun
version #2 - he reached for my gun
version #3 - he grabbed my gun
Kinda a big difference when version #3 makes it legal to shoot a motherfvker, and version 1 is completely not a reason you can cap someone, and you talked with daddy between versions #1 and #3 lol...
Him grabbing the gun is irrelevant to the fact that he was being beaten and feared for his life. He had no chance of fleeing as Trayvon had him pinned down on the ground. It's classic self defense, he had the right to kill Trayvon the second he got pinned down and Trayvon said "you're going to die tonight". End of story.
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the kid had no criminal record and was breaking no laws when he was shot to death
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Last time I checked, bashing someone's head into the ground is a crime.
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Last time I checked, bashing someone's head into the ground is a crime.
if a man follows you tow blocks with a fcuking 9mm, and you fear for your life, under FL law you have the right to shoot him in the head 17 times.
so bashing head on concrete is pretty legal too. Get mad at the law, that's the problem here. There's a likelihood BOTH PEOPLE had right to use justified force due to fear. FL law sucks donkey balls. Trayvon could have laid in grass with a rifle and mowed him down when he "came thru the yard to find out what street it was" (anyone who buys that is a fcking sucker)
THAT is the problem - the law is so vague, that trayvon could have claimed he feared for his life. Even if bullshit, it would stand up in FL court. which sucks.
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if a man follows you tow blocks with a fcuking 9mm, and you fear for your life, under FL law you have the right to shoot him in the head 17 times.
so bashing head on concrete is pretty legal too. Get mad at the law, that's the problem here. There's a likelihood BOTH PEOPLE had right to use justified force due to fear. FL law sucks donkey balls. Trayvon could have laid in grass with a rifle and mowed him down when he "came thru the yard to find out what street it was" (anyone who buys that is a fcking sucker)
THAT is the problem - the law is so vague, that trayvon could have claimed he feared for his life. Even if bullshit, it would stand up in FL court. which sucks.
with the facts we know, what do you believe trayvon had to justify fearing for his life? ::)
he didnt know zimmerman had a gun, he was not being assaulted, he was the one who confronted zimmerman...yea he must have been terrified ::)
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with the facts we know, what do you believe trayvon had to justify fearing for his life? ::)
he didnt know zimmerman had a gun, he was not being assaulted, he was the one who confronted zimmerman...yea he must have been terrified ::)
FACT:
MMA trained athlete with gun and 50 pound advantage jumps out of truck and sprints 2 block with murder in his eyes.
you can't PROVE poor trayvon skittles didn't konw these FACTS. He lays in grass, pulls weapon, and shoots down the mean man.
See how FL law is fcked up? You can shoot someone because of a PERCEIVED threat that only you perceive. I dont fear bad guys - I efar good guys with itchy trigger fingers.
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if a man follows you tow blocks with a fcuking 9mm, and you fear for your life, under FL law you have the right to shoot him in the head 17 times.
so bashing head on concrete is pretty legal too. Get mad at the law, that's the problem here. There's a likelihood BOTH PEOPLE had right to use justified force due to fear. FL law sucks donkey balls. Trayvon could have laid in grass with a rifle and mowed him down when he "came thru the yard to find out what street it was" (anyone who buys that is a fcking sucker)
THAT is the problem - the law is so vague, that trayvon could have claimed he feared for his life. Even if bullshit, it would stand up in FL court. which sucks.
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You can't show he followed him 2 blocks.
You can't show Trayvon knew about the gun.
You can't show Trayvon was afraid...in fact at the beginning of the 911 call, Zimmerman told the dispatcher that Trayvon was coming towards him (hardly the act of someone in fear).
You've made up so much bullshit and regurgitated so many lies, you can't keep shit straight.
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You can't show he followed him 2 blocks.
You can't show Trayvon knew about the gun.
You can't show Trayvon was afraid...in fact at the beginning of the 911 call, Zimmerman told the dispatcher that Trayvon was coming towards him (hardly the act of someone in fear).
You've made up so much bullshit and regurgitated so many lies, you can't keep shit straight.
dude, the shoot was legal. i didn't like that he tried SYG as a defense, cause it opened the door for libs.
Now, that being said, do you understand FL law? it's wide open man. WAY too vague for my liking. No duty to reteat, no obligation to just step back 2 steps and avoid shooting each other. I don't like that. the whole "Hey, I was just standing my ground" is beyond stupid. If you don't have to, don't get into a shootout. comoon sense.
are ya familiar with FL law? Do you liek it?
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FACT:
MMA trained athlete with gun and 50 pound advantage jumps out of truck and sprints 2 block with murder in his eyes.
you can't PROVE poor trayvon skittles didn't konw these FACTS. He lays in grass, pulls weapon, and shoots down the mean man.
See how FL law is fcked up? You can shoot someone because of a PERCEIVED threat that only you perceive. I dont fear bad guys - I efar good guys with itchy trigger fingers.
hahah only a retard like you would consider him an athelete and think that training an hour 3 times a week for a year and a half makes someone a deadly weapon.
what does murder in someones eyes look like anyway?
no proof he continued to follow him after he said he stopped
the facts dont support your period induced drama moron
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hahah only a retard like you would consider him an athelete and think that training an hour 3 times a week for a year and a half makes someone a deadly weapon.
what does murder in someones eyes look like anyway?
no proof he continued to follow him after he said he stopped
the facts dont support your period induced drama moron
FL law is wide open, homie.
if there's a 1% chance trayvon could have said he feared for his life (and yes, there's at least that), well, the law is too vague. I don't expect you to know FL law, tony. if you do, I'd love to hear your synopsis of it.
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FL law is wide open, homie.
if there's a 1% chance trayvon could have said he feared for his life (and yes, there's at least that), well, the law is too vague. I don't expect you to know FL law, tony. if you do, I'd love to hear your synopsis of it.
please show or give citations that support your stance, of all the things ive heard over the last 3 weeks or so youre wrong.
you have to have a REASONABLE fear for your life...
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please show or give citations that support your stance, of all the things ive heard over the last 3 weeks or so youre wrong.
you have to have a REASONABLE fear for your life...
i asked you for your synopsis. I've sat thru 8 CCW classes. you don't live here. burden of proof on you.
just accept the law is wide open and lax. cause it is :)
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FL law is wide open, homie.
if there's a 1% chance trayvon could have said he feared for his life (and yes, there's at least that), well, the law is too vague. I don't expect you to know FL law, tony. if you do, I'd love to hear your synopsis of it.
no in florida you need a reasonable fear for your life, thats not wide open moron
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i asked you for your synopsis. I've sat thru 8 CCW classes. you don't live here. burden of proof on you.
just accept the law is wide open and lax. cause it is :)
no burden of proof is on your moron, youre the one making the assertion that florida is the wild west.
given your tendency to outright lie nothing you say is taken at face value here.
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no in florida you need a reasonable fear for your life, thats not wide open moron
and a barrel pointed at you (which you can't prove didn't exist) sure qualifies as reasonable fear of a forcible felony under FL law.
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and a barrel pointed at you (which you can't prove didn't exist) sure qualifies as reasonable fear of a forcible felony under FL law.
there wasnt a barrel....
PS...REASONABILITY isnt a Florida thing moron...ever heard of the reasonable person standard?
probably left out of cracker jack U's MBA material but its the standard for most laws.....
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there wasnt a barrel....
PS...REASONABILITY isnt a Florida thing moron...ever heard of the reasonable person standard?
probably left out of cracker jack U's MBA material but its the standard for most laws.....
oh, the man saw a barrel. It's in his testimony/statement. You cannot prove he didn't see one, and there as plenty of opportunity for the other 3 villains to remove it before 5.0 arrived, OMara would argue.
reasonable doubt achieved.
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oh, the man saw a barrel. It's in his testimony/statement. You cannot prove he didn't see one, and there as plenty of opportunity for the other 3 villains to remove it before 5.0 arrived, OMara would argue.
reasonable doubt achieved.
lol to you maybe but then again your dumb ass believes that holograms are a viable explination to 9/11 so youre a guilable moron
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lol to you maybe but then again your dumb ass believes that holograms are a viable explination to 9/11 so youre a guilable moron
attacking the messenger is a common tactic when you can't argue what i'm saying.
what i'm saying is that FL law is so vague and flexible, with the burden being on the prosecutor to prove the guy didn't fear for his life -
that is is REALLY favorable for the defendant. I miss duty to reatreat and I will ALWAYS use it in any confrontation, as all people with common sense should.
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attacking the messenger is a common tactic when you can't argue what i'm saying.
what i'm saying is that FL law is so vague and flexible, with the burden being on the prosecutor to prove the guy didn't fear for his life -
that is is REALLY favorable for the defendant. I miss duty to reatreat and I will ALWAYS use it in any confrontation, as all people with common sense should.
not attacking the messenger Im attacking the messengers reasoning....
florida law isnt any more vague than the rest of the states moron, reasonable fear for a persons life is needed
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let me explain why the term reasonable is so important and why youre able to jump to the ignorant conclusion you have by ignoring it.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Reasonable+person+standard
reasonable means that a normal person in that situation would feel that their life was in danger.
its not just whether or not he felt his life was in danger that matters, its if a reasonable person in that situation would.
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florida law isnt any more vague than the rest of the states moron, reasonable fear for a persons life is needed
see, I have to disagree there. Google search "Florida gun laws vague" and you'll see MANY items from people on BOTH sides of the issue complaining that Florida (first in the USA with shall-issue permits) just goes out of their way to be unclear and really invent test cases for legal shoots.
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120408/OPINION03/120409728
that's a good one on it - FL law is terrible "simply because the test of what's "necessary" seems to reside solely in the mind of the citizen shooter."
And to me, that just sucks - the legality of a shoot depends on the judgment of a person who had a 66% chance of graduating the 47th ranged FL education system?
LOL it's bad from head to toe!
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see, I have to disagree there. Google search "Florida gun laws vague" and you'll see MANY items from people on BOTH sides of the issue complaining that Florida (first in the USA with shall-issue permits) just goes out of their way to be unclear and really invent test cases for legal shoots.
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120408/OPINION03/120409728
that's a good one on it - FL law is terrible "simply because the test of what's "necessary" seems to reside solely in the mind of the citizen shooter."
And to me, that just sucks - the legality of a shoot depends on the judgment of a person who had a 66% chance of graduating the 47th ranged FL education system?
LOL it's bad from head to toe!
no different than other states...take your pick google "(any state) gun laws vague" ::)
PS your arguement was in terms of reasonable person standards....thats not vague and is the basis for most laws........
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no different than other states...take your pick google "(any state) gun laws vague" ::)
PS your arguement was in terms of reasonable person standards....thats not vague and is the basis for most laws........
do you hold a permit in your state?
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do you hold a permit in your state?
as a matter of fact i do sir
holding a permit or not holding a permit has nothing to do with the reasonable person standard 240...
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as a matter of fact i do sir
holding a permit or not holding a permit has nothing to do with the reasonable person standard 240...
i meant, do they walk you thru all the scenarios when you get it?
i have sat thru at least 8 classes now - and they always stump the class with when you can shoot and when you cannot - and it's terrifying to me, seeing all the scared or angry people in those classes, with their "Oh, so I can shoot someone for that?"
I mean, I want to spit when I hear that. They WANT trigger time. And when I sat thru the class (97 i think), they kept ranting about "DUTY TO RETREAT!"
The class I sat thru last (same day as zimmerman indictment actually, a wednesday IIRC), the NRA cert instricutor said an old lady can open up fire on a BBer because she fears one punch will kill her. I was shocked. Just shocked. But it's the law. I dislike SYG because there are way too many people saying "Oh, so it's okay to shoot someone then?"
It's a LAST RESORT to use your gun - you better try evreything else. They're acting like it's a fcking kitchen gadget. It's the most dangerous tool you own and in 3 seconds you can kill 10 people with it... mind boggling.
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if a man follows you tow blocks with a fcuking 9mm, and you fear for your life, under FL law you have the right to shoot him in the head 17 times.
so bashing head on concrete is pretty legal too. Get mad at the law, that's the problem here. There's a likelihood BOTH PEOPLE had right to use justified force due to fear. FL law sucks donkey balls. Trayvon could have laid in grass with a rifle and mowed him down when he "came thru the yard to find out what street it was" (anyone who buys that is a fcking sucker)
THAT is the problem - the law is so vague, that trayvon could have claimed he feared for his life. Even if bullshit, it would stand up in FL court. which sucks.
This is the perfect spot for Hugo's Bugs Bunny graphic.
The State of Florida, ...screwing things up since 2000.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m49d88timI1rww3d7o1_400.gif)
http://www.handango.com/servlet/d/florida.mp3?s=2218&p=13048&secw=5ff5a725&key=15f0929b-8f72-4369-b2e8-e8c8f828755e
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Since getting out of jail for this "heroic" action,
Zimmerman has assaulted an old man and preggo woman with a gun & toured the factory that made the gun he used to shoot a kid.
And he got away with the assaults. He'll keep getting away with it. Figured out the system. A real hero, right?
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hahaha I can see the race baiting libtards going into hyper meltdown mode now...
http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-emerged-hiding-truck-crash-rescue-174553647--abc-news-topstories.html
"George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue a family who was trapped in an overturned vehicle, police said today.
Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of Dana and Mark Gerstle and their two children, who were trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla. at approximately 5:45 p.m. Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.
The crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said. The crash site is less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.
By the time police arrived, two people - including Zimmerman - had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff's office said. No one was reported to be injured."
cue 180 and the rest of the liberal goof troop...3....2....1....N OW!!!
LOL
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Not going to read through all the BS posts on here, but it seems 240 is equating what's happening to him today to what happened back then. Care you explain since he's not a cop but acquitted anyway? One has little to do with the other.
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Zimmerman is an idiot - was innocent in the ASHtray matter- but still a FNG idiot
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HHAHAHA so 240, this is the thread where I called zimmerman a hero?
HAHAH yet another incident in which 240 cements himself as a lying sack of fucking shit
pathetic trailer park ranger
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HHAHAHA so 240, this is the thread where I called zimmerman a hero?
HAHAH yet another incident in which 240 cements himself as a lying sack of fucking shit
pathetic trailer park ranger
That dude is hands down the most dishonest person posting on this board.
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fuck yeah
it would by a crying shame if someone falsely judged poor Zimmerman and thought he was a criminal
then again you can't judge gods plan
he's got all this shit planned out in advance
Straw why do you even bother ... everyone on this board knows your blindly partisan. You ignore truth and fact to build your case. You are worthless. Lets face it, you could care less about what actually happens so long as you suck Obama dick.
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So again...just to be clear.....you stalk a guy for no reason, chase after him as he tries to run from you, illegally stop and confront him, then claim you were in fear of your life when the guy kicks your ass because he has no idea what your intentions are....
only an AMAZING idiot would say he was justified in shooting a kid who was minding his own business, not committing any crime whatsoever, and walking to his father's house...after telling a friend of his on the phone that a strange man was following him....
WOW
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So again...just to be clear.....you stalk a guy for no reason, chase after him as he tries to run from you, illegally stop and confront him, then claim you were in fear of your life when the guy kicks your ass because he has no idea what your intentions are....
only an AMAZING idiot would say he was justified in shooting a kid who was minding his own business, not committing any crime whatsoever, and walking to his father's house...after telling a friend of his on the phone that a strange man was following him....
WOW
nothing zimmerman did was "illegal" he was well within his rights just like trayvon was.
I know you and your kind have many issues with understanding the law but Zimmerman didnt do anything illegal...sorry boss
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So again...just to be clear.....you stalk a guy for no reason, chase after him as he tries to run from you, illegally stop and confront him, then claim you were in fear of your life when the guy kicks your ass because he has no idea what your intentions are....
only an AMAZING idiot would say he was justified in shooting a kid who was minding his own business, not committing any crime whatsoever, and walking to his father's house...after telling a friend of his on the phone that a strange man was following him....
WOW
well, there's something about trayvon that FOX viewers hate SO much, they are willing to excuse all that.
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well, there's something about trayvon that FOX viewers hate SO much, they are willing to excuse all that.
that's because for the most part fox viewers are not tooo bright :o
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nothing zimmerman did was "illegal" he was well within his rights just like trayvon was.
I know you and your kind have many issues with understanding the law but Zimmerman didnt do anything illegal...sorry boss
of course you bring it back to the racial aspect with your "your kind" remark.....disappointing for someone who proclaims to allegedly be a minority...I guess you're identifying with your white side :)..although the other side of you has a reputation for being racist as well :)....so while it may not have been technically illegal you support following, stopping people, and detaining them all because YOU THINK they may be up to no good....... you're absolutely amazing..which is why you have no credibility
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well, there's something about trayvon that FOX viewers hate SO much, they are willing to excuse all that.
Agreed...now if we can just figure out WHAT THAT SOMETHING is???? ::)
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So again...just to be clear.....you stalk a guy for no reason, chase after him as he tries to run from you, illegally stop and confront him, then claim you were in fear of your life when the guy kicks your ass because he has no idea what your intentions are....
only an AMAZING idiot would say he was justified in shooting a kid who was minding his own business, not committing any crime whatsoever, and walking to his father's house...after telling a friend of his on the phone that a strange man was following him....
WOW
Wow. How was Zimmerman ever acquitted??
Maybe it's because your story is full of holes?
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Wow. How was Zimmerman ever acquitted??
Maybe it's because your story is full of holes?
not full of holes at all....all of what I quoted is what Zimmerdumd admitte to doin and was also pieced together from Trayvon's conversation with his friend on the phone
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not full of holes at all....all of what I quoted is what Zimmerdumd admitte to doin and was also pieced together from Trayvon's conversation with his friend on the phone
No he didn't.
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of course you bring it back to the racial aspect with your "your kind" remark.....disappointing for someone who proclaims to allegedly be a minority...I guess you're identifying with your white side :)..although the other side of you has a reputation for being racist as well :)....so while it may not have been technically illegal you support following, stopping people, and detaining them all because YOU THINK they may be up to no good....... you're absolutely amazing..which is why you have no credibility
Hahah I am just as much a minority as obama is. Again Zimmerman didn't do anything illegal, deal with it.
Ps the your kind reference was referring to those who have IGNORANT understandings of the law. I.E. Thinking the cops can't handcuff you if they don't place you under arrest and thinking Zimmerman broke laws in his actions with trayvon
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Hahah I am just as much a minority as obama is. Again Zimmerman didn't do anything illegal, deal with it.
Ps the your kind reference was referring to those who have IGNORANT understandings of the law. I.E. Thinking the cops can't handcuff you if they don't place you under arrest and thinking Zimmerman broke laws in his actions with trayvon
Actually thats not what I said..I actually said that if police (at least here in NY) put handcuffs on you, you are considered to be under arrest... you disputed this....I was actually right but didn't want to argue with you at the time because I was fatigued and I know you NEVER concede when you are wrong since you have no critical thinking skills :D......
Once the police put cuffs on you, you are going downtown
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Actually thats not what I said..I actually said that if police (at least here in NY) put handcuffs on you, you are considered to be under arrest... you disputed this....I was actually right but didn't want to argue with you at the time because I was fatigued and I know you NEVER concede when you are wrong since you have no critical thinking skills :D......
Once the police put cuffs on you, you are going downtown
Really provide your proof there andre
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Really provide your proof there andre
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/01/nyregion/you-re-under-arrest.html
I learned it many years ago when I was undergoing security training from a police officer in a seminar....its quoted in this article as well
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http://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/01/nyregion/you-re-under-arrest.html
I learned it many years ago when I was undergoing security training from a police officer in a seminar....its quoted in this article as well
The issue you have Andre is that this seems to have been decided federally and federal law trumps local.
http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=670&issue_id=82005
There are also more than a few incidents where people in NY have been detained in handcuffs and let go.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/06/nyregion/city-councilman-jumaane-d-williams-is-handcuffed-at-west-indian-day-parade.html?_r=0
Your source obviously doesn't know what they are talking about as they state the anytime a cop puts their hands on your or cuffs you, you are under arrest.
Again you are absolutely ignorant about this.