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Title: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: cswol on July 23, 2013, 10:51:18 AM
One Time hard has guaranteed a 2nd place finish, set in stone.  Does anyone else have ramy placing 1 or 2. Lets hear it!


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 23, 2013, 11:05:41 AM
lol NO


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: SmallPole on July 23, 2013, 11:07:03 AM
definitely no

1. not gonna deserve it
2. wouldn't place it even if he should because of 'politics'


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: cswol on July 23, 2013, 11:08:16 AM
Lets get all the cushions lined up for the inside of the ramy bandwagon, maybe all the correct winners if he places 1 or 2 maybe all these guys can get a ups delivery of ramys piss and inject 10 cc!


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: OTHstrong on July 23, 2013, 11:13:57 AM
One Time hard has guaranteed a 2nd place finish, set in stone.  Does anyone else have ramy placing 1 or 2. Lets hear it!
no one can guarantee any placing because conditioning and water manipulation play A HUGE ROLE. If he presents an equivilent package as New York or better he will be second place.

Phil first

Kai and Ramy, 50 50 for second. But if I am force to pick one, I will go with Ramy over Kai.

So basically what I am saying is Phil will beat Ramy.

Kai might or might not beat Ramy

NO ONE ELSE WILL BEAT RAMY.



Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: OTHstrong on July 23, 2013, 11:15:09 AM
Lets get all the cushions lined up for the inside of the ramy bandwagon, maybe all the correct winners if he places 1 or 2 maybe all these guys can get a ups delivery of ramys piss and inject 10 cc!
Don't be rude, keep it civilized, what are you a rebel?, we are men here.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Archer77 on July 23, 2013, 11:17:58 AM
No higher than fourth.  The explanation will be his conditioning was off.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 23, 2013, 11:18:55 AM
4th place.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Igor90 on July 23, 2013, 11:19:06 AM
No higher than fourth.  The explanation will be his conditioning was off.

this


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: OTHstrong on July 23, 2013, 11:19:33 AM
No higher than fourth.  The explanation will be his conditioning was off.
Kai won the Arnold and placed 7th at the O cause he fucked up his conditioning, that happens. Ramy is human, shit can happen.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Nails on July 23, 2013, 11:20:10 AM
he will for sure place ahead of branch warren

new york pro stage is not the Olympia 


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Archer77 on July 23, 2013, 11:22:43 AM
Kai won the Arnold and placed 7th at the O cause he fucked up his conditioning, that happens. Ramy is human, shit can happen.


I just don't think they will let him get that close to a sandow his first time out. It's all about the "pay your dues" bullshit that is popular in bodybuilding.  It doesn't matter if he deserves second place, he's not going to get it.  I hope I'm wrong.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: OTHstrong on July 23, 2013, 11:24:45 AM
I talked to a friend of mine (an ifbb pro) who has seen Dillet in his prime, in fact is very good friend with Dillet, he has seen Markus and Ronnie up close and his exact words were.

Ramy is shockingly enormous, he say he has never seen a bigger bodybuilder ever, he even said Ramy was bigger the Ronnie, Paul Dillet and yes bigger then Markus, he said he saw him next to Victor in New york and Ramy made Vic look like a regional competitor.

He also said this guy looks like a cartoon character in real life and said he will make Wolf look small at the Olympia. These are the words of an IFBB pro, I swear on my kids this is true, what I am saying.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Wiggs on July 23, 2013, 11:26:07 AM
1. Kai
2. Phil
3. Rami
4. Rhoden
5. Dexter
6. Jay



Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: OTHstrong on July 23, 2013, 11:27:17 AM
How tall is Ramy?
5 foot 10 and was 292 pounds in New York, he is the biggest bodybuilder in the world by a long shot and a tiny gut.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: BB on July 23, 2013, 11:27:41 AM
4 - 6th somewhere in there. Doesn't have the time in to move past 4th, there are still dues to be paid, and debts to the old timers that the judges will take into consideration. Look for him to place stronger in 2014.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Nails on July 23, 2013, 11:31:36 AM
I talked to a friend of mine (an ifbb pro) who has seen Dillet in his prime, in fact is very good friend with Dillet, he has seen Markus and Ronnie up close and his exact words were.

Ramy is shockingly enormous, he say he has never seen a bigger bodybuilder ever, he even said Ramy was bigger the Ronnie, Paul Dillet and yes bigger then Markus, he said he saw him next to Victor in New york and Ramy made Vic look like a regional competitor.

He also said this guy looks like a cartoon character in real life and said he will make Wolf look small at the Olympia. These are the words of an IFBB pro, I swear on my kids this is true, what I am saying.




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Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: jwb on July 23, 2013, 11:35:47 AM
I think the guy is amazing but besides calves he needs way more lower and inner lat development for the rear double biceps pose. Phil is detailed like crazy in that shot.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: falco on July 23, 2013, 11:36:13 AM
4 - 6th somewhere in there. Doesn't have the time in to move past 4th, there are still dues to be paid, and debts to the old timers that the judges will take into consideration. Look for him to place stronger in 2014.

This.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: HockeyFightFan on July 23, 2013, 11:36:54 AM
One Time hard has guaranteed a 2nd place finish, set in stone.  Does anyone else have ramy placing 1 or 2. Lets hear it!

CNN predicted him in 4th, right behind you......... ;D

Shutdown doughboy!  ;D


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: OTHstrong on July 23, 2013, 11:49:00 AM
Look at that last photo. Victor is usually known for his lines and small waist, and Ramy does indeed have a smaller waist than him
Exactly.

Flex wheeler says, Ramy can win, Jay Cutler says, Ramy can win, these are guys that have been at the top that have a much better perception then us.

The man is shockingly big and has a small gut and that is what my rant is all about.

It is not about his small gut or it is not about his sheer dimensions, it is about the combination of the 2 that we have never seen on a bodybuilding show ever, in the history of bodybuilding, this man is treading in new, never before seen territory.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: OTHstrong on July 23, 2013, 12:07:03 PM
I agree. The combination of size and a small waist in this decade of bodybuilding, is something you don't see often.

The one thing about those comments however,

I think Flex is just doing his bit of promoting the show, since he is still affiliated with companies at the Olympia, and Jay could possibly be saying that so if he places ahead of Ramy, it'll look like more of an accomplishment, etc. Maybe it's possibly for his own motivation.

(Basically like boxing/UFC promoters, is all that is being suggested there)

Overall, I see Ramy being able to get the top 3, as long as he doesn't spill over or wreck his conditioning somehow in the final month before the show. Phil and Kai have been doing this for a while and are very in tune with their Olympia strategies, so it'll be a bit harder for a newcomer as Ramy to dial in first time around, but as you say. Ramy is definitely treading in new territory for bodybuilding.
OK now want to hear something very bizarre.

Ramy is under AMI publications, he has a contract with Flex magazine and guess what? Muscular development just put Ramy on the cover. You don't make a move like that unless you think Ramy will be a top contender for the Olympia.

Think about it, they are giving him publicity when he is an AMI guy because if he makes a splash at the Olympia, MD will benefit this way.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Papper on July 23, 2013, 01:51:00 PM
No higher than fourth.  The explanation will be his conditioning was off.

lol it will be interesting hearing norton or whoever the fuck they put up this year trying to sell phil heath to the viewers if ramy is standing next to him. that comparison, of course, will not even happen


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Disgusted on July 23, 2013, 02:09:59 PM
If Ramy nails his conditioning which I don't see why not and the judging is fair then 2nd place is not out of the question at all.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Wiggs on July 23, 2013, 02:16:11 PM
If Ramy nails his conditioning which I don't see why not and the judging is fair then 2nd place is not out of the question at all.

Yes it is, He won't beat Kai or Phil. Because if it gets down to the nitty gritty, he has shitty calves for a man his size and Kai and Phil have good calves. Ramy will always be incomplete in that manner. He also does not have the deep detail needed in the quad and hamstring areas. Kai and Phil, would destroy him in that. And if it matters, Kai and Phil always have shredded glutes. Ramy barely had shredded glutes (How gay, yes, I know  :-X ) While Ramy would beat them both on rear lat spread, His back double bi is not as complete in the mid to lower back area with Kai and Phil. So all that stuff including the conditioning.

Hell no he's not making top 2. Top 3 at best but he has to be his best.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Disgusted on July 23, 2013, 02:27:35 PM
Who do you see winning the show?

Heath


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Disgusted on July 23, 2013, 02:31:46 PM
Yes it is, He won't beat Kai or Phil. Because if it gets down to the nitty gritty, he has shitty calves for a man his size and Kai and Phil have good calves. Ramy will always be incomplete in that manner. He also does not have the deep detail needed in the quad and hamstring areas. Kai and Phil, would destroy him in that. And if it matters, Kai and Phil always have shredded glutes. Ramy barely had shredded glutes (How gay, yes, I know  :-X ) While Ramy would beat them both on rear lat spread, His back double bi is not as complete in the mid to lower back area with Kai and Phil. So all that stuff including the conditioning.

Hell no he's not making top 2. Top 3 at best but he has to be his best.

We all know that the Olympia in the end comes down to who has the best calves.  ::) As far as conditioning this remains to be seen for all of them. Heath's conditioning was off last year compared to the year before and as far as Rami I do believe that there is plenty of room for improvement on his conditioning as well. Overall this years Olympia sucks as far as quality competitors.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: sway on July 23, 2013, 10:36:15 PM
Kai
Heath
Cutler
Wolf
Ramy


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Papper on July 24, 2013, 12:52:52 AM
If Ramy nails his conditioning which I don't see why not and the judging is fair then 2nd place is not out of the question at all.

totally agreed, but the judging will most likely not be fair pertaining to the top 3-4 spots when there is reigning Mr O and former Mr O in the mix and other guys who are "names".


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 24, 2013, 04:18:15 AM
Why are all these people bald? I got to get my hair cut today a pain and costs money.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Ronnie Rep on July 24, 2013, 05:55:10 AM
I say Ramy in third place although it could be reserved for Jay! Fourth if so!


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on July 24, 2013, 05:57:24 AM
1. Kai
2. Phil
3. Rami
4. Rhoden
5. Dexter
6. Jay



This would be nice.

THE BEEF


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: cswol on July 24, 2013, 06:00:15 AM
tony freeman will size ramy down hard, if he nails his condition, he like 6 inches taller than ramy


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Wiggs on July 24, 2013, 08:39:51 AM
tony freeman will size ramy down hard, if he nails his condition, he like 6 inches taller than ramy

Freeman is 6'1 265-270. Ramy is 5'10-5'11, 290. He'd make Freeman look like a swimmer. Hell, Kai makes Freeman look stringy what do you think Ramy will do to him?


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Archer77 on July 24, 2013, 08:45:47 AM
I hope they don't judge the shows based on "paying dues", although it wouldn't surprise me.

With that being said, didn't Kai "pay his dues"?  :-\

You hear it all the time, "you can't just beat the champ, you have to knock him out".  Chick likes to say that.  What kind of BS is that?  No other sport, which BB claims to be, operates that way.  This kind of thinking actually diminishes the sport and is insulting to the competitors.

lol it will be interesting hearing norton or whoever the fuck they put up this year trying to sell phil heath to the viewers if ramy is standing next to him. that comparison, of course, will not even happen

Heath is the current golden boy.  He was expected to reign for some time.  People didnt calculate he would face the level of competition he has.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: OTHstrong on July 24, 2013, 09:41:43 AM
Freeman is 6'1 265-270. Ramy is 5'10-5'11, 290. He'd make Freeman look like a swimmer. Hell, Kai makes Freeman look stringy what do you think Ramy will do to him?
YES WIGGS bringing down the logic in abundance, cswole I am sorry bro, but you do not know bodybuilding, you don't know how it works, all your comments are based exactly the way people comment that have only seen one bodybuilding show for the first time.

I am not starting with you but You get it all wrong all the time.

Let me give you some pointers because I practically live on stage. a taller bodybuilder may be impressive in size but the judges do not like taller bodybuilders, they look lanky on stage and their insertions leave a lot of gaps in their physique where there is no muscle.

The overall winners in the amateur ranks come from 5 foot 6 through 5'11, Of course there are exceptions to this, but tall people do not make good bodybuilders despite being more impressive in person at the gym or in the mall etc.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Disgusted on July 24, 2013, 10:31:26 AM
Freeman is 6'1 265-270. Ramy is 5'10-5'11, 290. He'd make Freeman look like a swimmer. Hell, Kai makes Freeman look stringy what do you think Ramy will do to him?

This


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: bigmc on July 24, 2013, 10:33:39 AM
If Ramy nails his conditioning which I don't see why not and the judging is fair then 2nd place is not out of the question at all.

has the judging ever been fair

he may deserve 2nd but i will be surprised if he gets it


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: MB on July 24, 2013, 11:03:46 AM
This Olympia will only be interesting if Ramy absolutely nails it.  Lee Thompson loves Phil and co-promotes his NPC show.  There's no way on Earth Phil loses, but I want to hear the nervous explanation to follow.  It'll probably contain some rambling about Phil's veteran stage presence (standing in front of the white line) and how he is a warrior on stage.       


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Wiggs on July 24, 2013, 11:06:10 AM
This Olympia will only be interesting if Ramy absolutely nails it.  Lee Thompson loves Phil and co-promotes his NPC show.  There's no way on Earth Phil loses, but I want to hear the nervous explanation to follow.  It'll probably contain some rambling about Phil's veteran stage presence (standing in front of the white line) and how he is a warrior on stage.       

I can all but guarantee that line shit wont be happening this year without Kai reacting. It aint goin' down like that this year.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: OTHstrong on July 24, 2013, 11:06:58 AM
has the judging ever been fair

he may deserve 2nd but i will be surprised if he gets it
This is a very fair statement but our resident cswole is saying if he comes in the top 6, it is conspiracy that someone put him there

LMAO, oh no it hasn't nothing to do with him being 5 foot 10 nearly 300lb without a gut, nothing at all,  ::)


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Papper on July 24, 2013, 11:08:40 AM
This Olympia will only be interesting if Ramy absolutely nails it.  Lee Thompson loves Phil and co-promotes his NPC show.  There's no way on Earth Phil loses, but I want to hear the nervous explanation to follow.  It'll probably contain some rambling about Phil's veteran stage presence (standing in front of the white line) and how he is a warrior on stage.      

It will be something along the lines of Phil being "aggressive" and "taking charge" of the stage.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 24, 2013, 11:13:18 AM
It will be something along the lines of Phil being "aggressive" and "taking charge" of the stage.

Yes Phil will really leave it all out on the stage so to speak, he will take no prisoners, he will sacrifice to win.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: OTHstrong on July 24, 2013, 11:16:14 AM
I can all but guarantee that line shit wont be happening this year without Kai reacting. It aint goin' down like that this year.
No offence but you know how silly this argument is about the line, ya it makes a difference in a picture but FFS the judges are like 50-60 feet back if not more, you think 3 inches above the line is going to alter their perception when they are that far back?

My gawd people use your heads


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: MB on July 24, 2013, 11:20:24 AM
I can all but guarantee that line shit wont be happening this year without Kai reacting. It aint goin' down like that this year.

I still feel like Kai has the ability to come in condition we've never seen before.  He has to blow us away with condition, or he'll get caught in no man's land between the bigger Ramy and prettier Phil.  


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Wiggs on July 24, 2013, 11:36:41 AM
I still feel like Kai has the ability to come in condition we've never seen before.  He has to blow us away with condition, or he'll get caught in no man's land between the bigger Ramy and prettier Phil.  

He will bro. He will. Kai has it this year.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 24, 2013, 11:48:15 AM
He will bro. He will. Kai has it this year.
True.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: sway on July 24, 2013, 02:29:53 PM
tony freeman will size ramy down hard, if he nails his condition, he like 6 inches taller than ramy

I think Wolf is capable of doing it far better than Freeman. Ramy looks awesome, but how anyone can say he's a threat for second, is crazy. The NY Pro ain't the Mr O.....


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: OTHstrong on July 24, 2013, 09:26:16 PM
I think Wolf is capable of doing it far better than Freeman. Ramy looks awesome, but how anyone can say he's a threat for second, is crazy. The NY Pro ain't the Mr O.....
You are assuming we are saying this because he won the New York pro. Sorry bro but not true, in fact had he not done the New York pro and his Olympia was his pro debut I would put him in second place, you know why? Because no one in the history of bodybuilding has ever stepped on stage at nearly 300lb at 5 foot 10 with a small gut.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Ronnie Rep on July 25, 2013, 06:13:53 AM
You are assuming we are saying this because he won the New York pro. Sorry bro but not true, in fact had he not done the New York pro and his Olympia was his pro debut I would put him in second place, you know why? Because no one in the history of bodybuilding has ever stepped on stage at nearly 300lb at 5 foot 10 with a small gut.
I agree I think the judges may be conflicted if Ramy steps on stage in better condition than N.Y. as to where to put him! I think he could be anywhere from second to fourth! If he is better than N.Y.!


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Papper on July 25, 2013, 09:47:15 AM
No offence but you know how silly this argument is about the line, ya it makes a difference in a picture but FFS the judges are like 50-60 feet back if not more, you think 3 inches above the line is going to alter their perception when they are that far back?

My gawd people use your heads

Admission of guilt

Phil would step over a dead body if it meant he appeared one cm wider


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: OTHstrong on July 25, 2013, 10:03:50 AM
Admission of guilt

Phil would step over a dead body if it meant he appeared one cm wider
;D


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: yates fan on July 25, 2013, 11:36:11 AM
I can see ramy being top three if he has better back detail,but aint no one denying kai the sandow this year!


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: anabolichalo on July 25, 2013, 11:49:25 AM
the size of his thighs must drive schmoes crazy to the point of madness


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: doriancutlerman on July 25, 2013, 01:10:48 PM
5 foot 10 and was 292 pounds in New York, he is the biggest bodybuilder in the world by a long shot and a tiny gut.

Ruehl, Ronnie and Nasser all stood about 5'10" and competed at 290 or heavier, but then, none of them had Rami's waistline, did they? ;)  (I'd include Dillet in that group but I don't think he ever weighed near that much in shape.  Didn't he peak at about 275?  I remember seeing him heavier one season and the extra fat actually made him look much smaller.)

I can believe Rami is the biggest dude under about 6'3" or so that many have ever seen.  For sheer muscular size I find it hard to believe many would eclipse Ferrigno in '93-'94, Jeep Swenson and Noah Steere, but those dudes do NOT have swelvte waists, Rami's wicked taper, conditioning or anything else on him apart from ... well, sheer height and size, which means sweet-fuck-all in bodybuilding.  Ferrigno getting spanked at the '93 O is a good enough example of that, but for nitpickers, I also direct thee to Greg Kovacs, Jim Quinn and Jean-Pierre Fux.  All were some of the heaviest dudes onstage and, in their prime, they placed OK ... but they still got their asses whipped because most of their weight was in all of the wrong places.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Deutsch on July 25, 2013, 01:15:30 PM
^ great examples.  Atleast all of this makes for a very exciting and competitive Olympia.



Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 25, 2013, 01:35:52 PM
He is ugly damn man can not anyone look as Arnold or Lou anymore?


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: doriancutlerman on July 25, 2013, 01:40:27 PM
^ great examples.  Atleast all of this makes for a very exciting and competitive Olympia.



Danke, mein gut herr.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: old-school-lifter on July 25, 2013, 09:15:32 PM
remember it was me who predicted Rami could win the NY pro

for the O, IF ramy comes in conditioned - and he may not because he amy not have got the peaking twice in 1 year down pat- then he will get 3rd

1. heath
2. Kai , although again kai will be the true winner
3. Ramy


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 25, 2013, 10:08:32 PM
Haha!

The commentary sometimes makes it sound so much more intense than it is...

Sounds like a gladiator, when in reality all of the work has been done years before hand. They're just on stage like pictures at an art gallery.

Or cars at a car show.

This is serious bro, bodybuilding is life or death. This ain't no tea party so if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

(feel free to add your own cliche's to this thread as well. Specifically military/war themes seem to go over very well.)


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: a_ahmed on July 25, 2013, 10:11:31 PM
Go Ramy go :) Team Ramy! lol, it's funny how many haters there are.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: OTHstrong on July 26, 2013, 01:21:47 AM
Ruehl, Ronnie and Nasser all stood about 5'10" and competed at 290 or heavier, but then, none of them had Rami's waistline, did they? ;)  (I'd include Dillet in that group but I don't think he ever weighed near that much in shape.  Didn't he peak at about 275?  I remember seeing him heavier one season and the extra fat actually made him look much smaller.)

I can believe Rami is the biggest dude under about 6'3" or so that many have ever seen.  For sheer muscular size I find it hard to believe many would eclipse Ferrigno in '93-'94, Jeep Swenson and Noah Steere, but those dudes do NOT have swelvte waists, Rami's wicked taper, conditioning or anything else on him apart from ... well, sheer height and size, which means sweet-fuck-all in bodybuilding.  Ferrigno getting spanked at the '93 O is a good enough example of that, but for nitpickers, I also direct thee to Greg Kovacs, Jim Quinn and Jean-Pierre Fux.  All were some of the heaviest dudes onstage and, in their prime, they placed OK ... but they still got their asses whipped because most of their weight was in all of the wrong places.
NOPE, he is bigger then them all bro. Nasser, slightly over 280, Markus 280 and Ronnie 290, Markus and Ronnie are an Inch taller and Nasser is same height but Ramy has at least 10 lb on Nasser and like you said his waistline is tiny.

Also, with the exception of Ronnie, most mass monsters had big bones, Ramy has small bones and joints and is a mesomorph, a very exaggerated mesomorph

When he is up beside everyone come Olympia, finally everyone here will understand the sheer size of this dude


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: OTHstrong on July 26, 2013, 01:23:28 AM
remember it was me who predicted Rami could win the NY pro

for the O, IF ramy comes in conditioned - and he may not because he amy not have got the peaking twice in 1 year down pat- then he will get 3rd

1. heath
2. Kai , although again kai will be the true winner
3. Ramy
Sorry don't remember that, I called that win for him the same day he signed up for the New York. Also I am calling second place for the Olympia  ;)


Title: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: syntaxmachine on August 02, 2013, 09:47:47 AM
I'm f*cking sick of you riding Ramy's rod like some sort of salacious camel corker:

Kai might or might not beat Ramy

NO ONE ELSE WILL BEAT RAMY.

third  ??? bro Jay is not going to beat Ramy, what are you talking about third?

Also I am calling second place for the Olympia  ;)

If you really believe this disastrously deleterious dribble, you'll put your money where my towel your mouth is. Let's make a bet on this Muslim Brotherhood operative's placing.

Conditions
If Ramy places in the top four, I will transfer the positively princely purse of $250* to the paypal account of your preference (hey, betting large amounts of money is for morons), post a pic of myself (humiliating for me), and not log in to getbig for a month

If he doesn't place in the top four (i.e., if what is going to happen happens), you give me the $250* and put the message of my choosing in your personal text box

Failure to comply or negotiate some bet or other will constitute a cop out; a cowardly concession that your confidence was contrived.

*The amount is negotiable, given your profession. I don't want to further rob the lower classes of resources as is the norm in capitalist societies


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: epic_alien on August 02, 2013, 09:57:27 AM
ramy dude

6-8th

i said this weeks ago after everyone got up on his nuts

and 8-10 is more likely


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: OTHstrong on August 02, 2013, 10:09:55 AM
I'm f*cking sick of you riding Ramy's rod like some sort of salacious camel corker:

If you really believe this disastrously deleterious dribble, you'll put your money where my towel your mouth is. Let's make a bet on this Muslim Brotherhood operative's placing.

Conditions
If Ramy places in the top four, I will transfer the positively princely purse of $250* to the paypal account of your preference (hey, betting large amounts of money is for morons), post a pic of myself (humiliating for me), and not log in to getbig for a month

If he doesn't place in the top four (i.e., if what is going to happen happens), you give me the $250* and put the message of my choosing in your personal text box

Failure to comply or negotiate some bet or other will constitute a cop out; a cowardly concession and proof that your confidence was illusory.

*The amount is negotiable, given your profession. I don't want to further rob the lower classes of resources as is the norm in capitalist society
done, my profession?, don`t flatter yourself I just put up 60 bundles in one day at a contract rate of 11 dollars per bundle.

make it 150 dollars though, as I am already 850 dollars into bets for Ramy, so an even 1000 dollars is my capping.  ;)

now the message of your choosing can not interfere with my religious belief, can not interfere in my status as hetero sexual male, or can not involve my family, other then that, anything goes.

I trust you to comply with the money, however, if you wish we can send the money ahead of time to a mod and he can hold till the day, but like I said I will pay, you have my word, my rep is on the line.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: Psychopath on August 02, 2013, 10:16:51 AM
Wow, is this for real?


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: syntaxmachine on August 02, 2013, 10:20:09 AM
done, my profession?, don`t flatter yourself I just put up 60 bundles in one day at a contract rate of 11 dollars per bundle.

make it 150 dollars though, as I am already 850 dollars into bets for Ramy, so an even 1000 dollars is my capping.  ;)

now the message of your choosing can not interfere with my religious belief, can not interfere in my status as hetero sexual male, or can not involve my family, other then that, anything goes.

I trust you to comply with the money, however, if you wish we can send the money ahead of time to a mod and he can hold till the day, but like I said I will pay, you have my word, my rep is on the line.

1. 150USD it is.

2. Semantics matters. Let's say we assign a cluster of semantic properties to the word 'homo' that don't pertain to homosexuality in the slightest. Would the message 'I'm a huge homo' or some such then be acceptable?

3. Yes, yes, the Illuminati will be contacting you soon with this level of wealth accumulation, hahah, oh brother  ::) ::) ::) http://www.wowjobs.ca/salary-roofers


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: WalterWhite on August 02, 2013, 10:28:59 AM
done, my profession?, don`t flatter yourself I just put up 60 bundles in one day at a contract rate of 11 dollars per bundle.


Your a roofer and a bodybuilder?  Props roofing is brutal!  I labored on some jobs in HS along with laboring for a mason and both had me sleeping well at night!


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: OTHstrong on August 02, 2013, 10:29:51 AM
1. 150USD it is.

2. Semantics matters. Let's say we assign a cluster of semantic properties to the word 'homo' that don't pertain to homosexuality in the slightest. Would the message 'I'm a huge homo' or some such then be acceptable?

3. Yes, yes, the Illuminati will be contacting you soon with this level of wealth accumulation, hahah, oh brother  ::) ::) ::) http://www.wowjobs.ca/salary-roofers
I AM NOT JUST A ROOFER, I OWN MY OWN ROOFING BUSINESS HERE IN LONDON, fucken caps-forgot to take them off. anyway that means I have to make sales, put out adds, pick up material, I have dumpers to take care of and people to hire so don`t be so judgemental. BTW what do you do, let me guess another getbig that makes 250 000 a year.

How about this, post your income tax sheet on here and let`s compare, talk is cheap.

Now about that comment, that is fine but anything like I banged this guy in the A-hole is a little to much for my liking


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: OTHstrong on August 02, 2013, 10:31:36 AM
Your a roofer and a bodybuilder?  Props roofing is brutal!  I labored on some jobs in HS along with laboring for a mason and both had me sleeping well at night!
you get used to it but some days are fucken back breaking. Now the craziest is spending 8-10 hours on the roof and then going to the gym to deadlift 5 plates per side for reps.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: bigmc on August 02, 2013, 10:41:08 AM
I AM NOT JUST A ROOFER, I OWN MY OWN ROOFING BUSINESS HERE IN LONDON, fucken caps-forgot to take them off. anyway that means I have to make sales, put out adds, pick up material, I have dumpers to take care of and people to hire so don`t be so judgemental. BTW what do you do, let me guess another getbig that makes 250 000 a year.

How about this, post your income tax sheet on here and let`s compare, talk is cheap.

Now about that comment, that is fine but anything like I banged this guy in the A-hole is a little to much for my liking

thought you lived in canada


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: syntaxmachine on August 02, 2013, 11:02:54 AM
I AM NOT JUST A ROOFER, I OWN MY OWN ROOFING BUSINESS HERE IN LONDON, fucken caps-forgot to take them off. anyway that means I have to make sales, put out adds, pick up material, I have dumpers to take care of and people to hire so don`t be so judgemental. BTW what do you do, let me guess another getbig that makes 250 000 a year.

How about this, post your income tax sheet on here and let`s compare, talk is cheap.

Now about that comment, that is fine but anything like I banged this guy in the A-hole is a little to much for my liking

Professor Roofenstein melting vociferously in this thread. Let's save the income dispute for another day; for now, we need to get a mod to hold our funds until the big day, as well ensure that I can't post should I lose.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: OTHstrong on August 02, 2013, 11:08:16 AM
Professor Roofenstein melting vociferously in this thread. Let's save the income dispute for another day; for now, we need to get a mod to hold our funds until the big day, as well ensure that I can't post should I lose.
NO NO, you can post for 2 days after the O so everyone can make fun of you then your out, deal?

thought you lived in canada
London Ontario, Canada

small city 400 000 people.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: bigmc on August 02, 2013, 11:09:19 AM
NO NO, you can post for 2 days after the O so everyone can make fun of you then your out, deal?
London Ontario, Canada

small city 400 000 people.

ah ok bro

would have looked you up for a beer if it was london england - hint of homo


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: dr.chimps on August 02, 2013, 11:17:33 AM
NO NO, you can post for 2 days after the O so everyone can make fun of you then your out, deal?
London Ontario, Canada

small city 400 000 people.
Haven't been there in 20 years, or so. Started and finished a night at the Ceeps. I want to say there was straw on the floor, or maybe my memory is that foggy!?   


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on August 02, 2013, 11:30:57 AM
ah ok bro

would have looked you up for a beer if it was london england - hint of homo

Sparks of love and brotherly flirting occurring in this thread


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on August 02, 2013, 11:53:43 AM
TwinkiLeaks reports that Schmoehammad El-Rothschildi, the malodorous Cairo-based sebaceous oil magnate, lobbied hard behind green doors for an Elssbiay Olympia triumph at the last Bilderberg Conference. Stay tuned, ramy-nosers.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: ZOD on August 02, 2013, 11:56:24 AM
TwinkiLeaks

LOL


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: OTHstrong on August 02, 2013, 05:25:10 PM
Haven't been there in 20 years, or so. Started and finished a night at the Ceeps. I want to say there was straw on the floor, or maybe my memory is that foggy!?   
no shit,  8)

 was it you that asked once if I lived behind Rona? I found that strange cause I don`t but one of my brothers do.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: OTHstrong on August 02, 2013, 06:58:18 PM
Syntax brother, although you flamed me I still solute you and you know why?

 cause you kept it real, you know you could have baited me into top 3 instead of top 4 but you gave me some leniency, so I feel comfortable with the odds at top 4, I thank you for that.

Syntax, oh ya, you the man  :D 8)


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: Schmoff on August 02, 2013, 07:06:39 PM
getbig legend thread

 ;D


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: WalterWhite on August 02, 2013, 08:41:19 PM
you get used to it but some days are fucken back breaking. Now the craziest is spending 8-10 hours on the roof and then going to the gym to deadlift 5 plates per side for reps.

I worked in sales for Owens Corning Fiberglas for a few years on the commercial roofing side. I can imagine what your days are like running the show and working the jobs!  No one understands how taxing this can be until they do it!  Your a machine!!

Be careful on those jobs bro!


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: el numero uno on August 02, 2013, 08:56:00 PM
haha good thread


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: a_ahmed on August 02, 2013, 09:13:27 PM
In before syntax gets made fun off and runs off crying.

I'm all tuned in. :D

Team rammy vs team gay fail

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Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: whitewidow on August 02, 2013, 09:16:55 PM
It is possible phil and kai will def be 1st and second place. besides those 2 anything can go so ramy has a good chance. I just know usually first time Mr. Olympia competitors do not get the respect they should. Besides Phil and Kai not sure who else is in better shape then ramy. This is a good bet! Should be exciting.

1.Phil
2.Kai

those 2 placings could go either way but I am sure those two will finish first and second.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: cephissus on August 02, 2013, 09:29:03 PM
TwinkiLeaks reports that Schmoehammad El-Rothschildi, the malodorous Cairo-based sebaceous oil magnate, lobbied hard behind green doors for an Elssbiay Olympia triumph at the last Bilderberg Conference. Stay tuned, ramy-nosers.

LMAO


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: WalterWhite on August 04, 2013, 10:03:59 AM
I talked to a friend of mine (an ifbb pro) who has seen Dillet in his prime, in fact is very good friend with Dillet, he has seen Markus and Ronnie up close and his exact words were.

Ramy is shockingly enormous, he say he has never seen a bigger bodybuilder ever, he even said Ramy was bigger the Ronnie, Paul Dillet and yes bigger then Markus, he said he saw him next to Victor in New york and Ramy made Vic look like a regional competitor.

He also said this guy looks like a cartoon character in real life and said he will make Wolf look small at the Olympia. These are the words of an IFBB pro, I swear on my kids this is true, what I am saying.

I have a buddy who competed in the NYP 212's and he said no one wanted to stand next to Ramy.  He said the pics don't lie and he dwarfed everyone. I can't wait for the Olympia comparisons when they stand side by side. 


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Mr. MB on August 04, 2013, 10:24:33 AM
If the judging panel was not owned by the suppliment/BB media industry I would say top 3.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: OTHstrong on August 04, 2013, 10:40:16 AM
I have a buddy who competed in the NYP 212's and he said no one wanted to stand next to Ramy.  He said the pics don't lie and he dwarfed everyone. I can't wait for the Olympia comparisons when they stand side by side. 
Yup, that's what some of the guys I know who where there were saying. When he came out everyone' mouth dropped and the entire audience was in shock.

If the judging panel was not owned by the suppliment/BB media industry I would say top 3.
But what you are not taking into account is that he is already part of the team, he is signed with AMI and word is he is being treated as the second coming of Dorian, he may be the next poster boy for the entire industry.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: OTHstrong on August 04, 2013, 10:43:25 AM
Haha, just got word from someone in the know that AMI and the ''powers that be'' are going to push Ramy forward and have him as the next Dorian. Syntax is in trouble, oh oh  ;)

So if this is true he will not get the shaft over politics as they want him in the front lines.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: ukjeff on August 04, 2013, 10:44:55 AM
Haha, just got word from someone in the know that AMI and the ''powers that be'' are going to push Ramy forward and have him as the next Dorian. Syntax is in trouble, oh oh  ;)

So if this is true he will not get the shaft over politics as they want him in the front lines.

What!!!!!
You mean theres 'politics' in bodybuilding and its not about the best physique that wins?


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: OTHstrong on August 04, 2013, 10:53:34 AM
What!!!!!
You mean theres 'politics' in bodybuilding and its not about the best physique that wins?
That is not what I meant, they are not going to alter placings to get him anywhere, but they have plans for him for marketability and other reasons to give him the spot light. So he certainly will not be over looked here like some suggest.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 04, 2013, 11:04:28 AM
Ramy should learn to speak english before competing in the Olympia.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Wiggs on August 04, 2013, 11:06:02 AM
Rhoden is going to look like a miniboat standing besides an aircraft carrier, big ramy. Hard for rhoden to place top 5 this year.

I agree but Rhoden is better than Jay.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Red29 on August 04, 2013, 11:07:28 AM
Ramy should learn to speak english before competing in the Olympia.

will probably do that this offseason. he ought to at least..


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: 240 is Back on August 04, 2013, 11:18:33 AM
4th


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: OTHstrong on August 04, 2013, 11:20:40 AM
you kidding bro? They are gonna push someone from camel country in the O.
 :o
It actually makes a lot of sense. The middle east is booming on the bodybuilding scene, it is huge down there now, especially in the regions Ramy is from, he can bring in millions of followers and the Arab community has money and he is young and looks pretty marketable as well, he lives in the middle of Europe-Asia and the south pacific-India and Pakistan. This is fresh market that would cater to a Ramy more so then even Phil


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: Shockwave on August 04, 2013, 11:22:39 AM
Haha, just got word from someone in the know that AMI and the ''powers that be'' are going to push Ramy forward and have him as the next Dorian. Syntax is in trouble, oh oh  ;)

So if this is true he will not get the shaft over politics as they want him in the front lines.
Welp, you just got cut out of the loop... Way to go OTH, revealing trade secrets on GB, don't expect to ever place again.  :D


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: Wiggs on August 04, 2013, 11:24:44 AM
I wish you could bet on the Olympia here in Vegas.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: Wiggs on August 04, 2013, 11:29:24 AM
Rhoden with enough muscle on his frame can take out anyone in the O. But unfortunately we got the "all i do is win" phil heath already riding the aesthics and mass wave in the O. Rhoden is definitely a top O contender.  ;)

Rhoden's back is his biggest downfall. It's not on par with Kai's and Phil's If it was, we'd be talking about him as legit threat also. I'd like to see what he's done with the year off. What they do with Jay/Rhoden/Ramy will be interesting.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: OTHstrong on August 04, 2013, 11:37:56 AM
Speaking about the market, its huge in tge middle east. I have worked in Kuwait and dubai for short peroid of time and bodybuilding is huge over there. The people there in general celebrate a huge muscular body and there isabsolutely no negativ mindst tuwards use of any PEDs. You get respect for being muscular there...and no stupid ass bloke is gonna accuse you of using anything.
Indeed, expect some good competitors to come from there in the years to come.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: Z Father on August 04, 2013, 11:42:22 AM
I wish you could bet on the Olympia here in Vegas.

why ? You're afraid to make a freaking gentleman's bet on here.....LOL.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 04, 2013, 12:20:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isbBTR9j4_M

lol @ the things this woman says




she is lucky she didn't meet those three in a dark alley. They would expand her anus dramatically.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: Parker on August 04, 2013, 12:42:29 PM
Speaking about the market, its huge in tge middle east. I have worked in Kuwait and dubai for short peroid of time and bodybuilding is huge over there. The people there in general celebrate a huge muscular body and there isabsolutely no negativ mindst tuwards use of any PEDs. You get respect for being muscular there...and no stupid ass bloke is gonna accuse you of using anything.
So, what you are saying is the Schmoe Market is big, with a lot of rich men willing to "sponsor" a strapping young lad in his drug induced endeavors of muscular supremacy? As long as they can have a watchful eye over their Middle Eastern Titans of Muscle, correct?


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: King Shizzo on August 04, 2013, 12:51:45 PM
I will give Getbig one huge cookie. Syntax and Kahn are the same person.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on August 04, 2013, 12:53:01 PM
Ramy's delts are a symbol for the term 'oil' in Egypt.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on August 04, 2013, 01:51:33 PM
I will give Getbig one huge cookie. Syntax and Kahn are the same person.

Very bizarre if this is true. Any proof? Besides "they grammar is real smart."


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: Parker on August 04, 2013, 02:07:06 PM
Ramy's delts are a symbol for the term 'oil' in Egypt.
Please express that in hieroglyphic form if possible...


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: King Shizzo on August 04, 2013, 02:09:28 PM
Very bizarre if this is true. Any proof? Besides "they grammar is real smart."
My spreadsheet does not lie. Those two posters are gimmicks anyway.

I ask getbig: who is smart enough to pull all of this off?


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: doriancutlerman on August 04, 2013, 02:25:38 PM
NOPE, he is bigger then them all bro. Nasser, slightly over 280, Markus 280 and Ronnie 290, Markus and Ronnie are an Inch taller and Nasser is same height but Ramy has at least 10 lb on Nasser and like you said his waistline is tiny.

Also, with the exception of Ronnie, most mass monsters had big bones, Ramy has small bones and joints and is a mesomorph, a very exaggerated mesomorph

When he is up beside everyone come Olympia, finally everyone here will understand the sheer size of this dude

Apologies for the poor communication, my good man.  By the small waistline and equal weight comment, I actually meant that Rami is the biggest we've seen.

To be sure, prime Ronnie and Ruehl both had moments in which we all pretty much said, "Holy fuck, no one could be that wide" and/or "No one could carry that much muscle without looking downright sloppy"; but Rami?  I agree with you:  he has arrived.  IF he comes in to the Olympia shredded, I predict he'll place in the top 4 -- and he'll probably be outrageously robbed in such a placing. 

I will bet the PTB will want Phil, Kai and Jay in the top three, no matter what.  If Rami is shredded and has some calves to show, he'll probably deserve second, perhaps the entire bloody show.  But I still see him finishing just out of the top three due to politics :(  That sucks, but by my reckoning, the IFBB has exercised its shittiest judging since perhaps the very early 80s.  Nasser fans can whine and bitch all they like, but IMO, even a severely wounded Yates won enough compulsories to whip cross-eyed boy's ass for the title in '97.  I do think Ronnie should've had some kind of serious come-uppance at the O in '02, but just the same, I thought he barely won the '06 Olympia to a fairly mediocre Jay Cutler. 

I guess we'll see how things play out, nay? :)  I was long since pulling for Cedric McMillan, but as you said, the fucker's too lazy to get rid of that last bit of bodyfat and blame it all on "water" :roll:

LAME!


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: whitewidow on August 04, 2013, 02:37:08 PM
no one can guarantee any placing because conditioning and water manipulation play A HUGE ROLE. If he presents an equivilent package as New York or better he will be second place.

Phil first

Kai and Ramy, 50 50 for second. But if I am force to pick one, I will go with Ramy over Kai.

So basically what I am saying is Phil will beat Ramy.

Kai might or might not beat Ramy

NO ONE ELSE WILL BEAT RAMY.



Kai will beat Ramy! You have anymore money you want to risk losing. I think your top 4 bet is agood one but finish second over kai? No way! Not his first year. Plus Kai is just as good and while ramy might weigh more kai holds alot of lean muscle mass and has better seperation everywhere. look at mustafah Muhamed and then look at ramy they look alot alike. Both have enormous quads.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: whitewidow on August 04, 2013, 02:41:15 PM
We all know that the Olympia in the end comes down to who has the best calves.  ::) As far as conditioning this remains to be seen for all of them. Heath's conditioning was off last year compared to the year before and as far as Rami I do believe that there is plenty of room for improvement on his conditioning as well. Overall this years Olympia sucks as far as quality competitors.

I agree with that ,that is why ramy will get 3rd so onetime hard wins at least 150$. 2nd place will not happen Phil and kai have those 2 spots locked down.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: whitewidow on August 04, 2013, 03:00:02 PM
I can all but guarantee that line shit wont be happening this year without Kai reacting. It aint goin' down like that this year.

I would like to see kai win because he def gto robbed last year and I think he is better then phil. Phil has not impressed me. Phil is so narrow. Phil is able to pack on alot of lean muscle though. Phil has some of the best seperation as well but Kai is just as good and is just freakier. Phil beats kai because he does come in leaner and has great seperation everywhere also he is a pretty boy and good for promoting the sport. Not saying Phil does not deserve winning but if kai didn't do all that weird gay 4 pay shit the outcome might be diffrent.

Think about it if kids he got into bodybuilding became kai fans and googled his name and saw him fucking fruit it would be awful that is what They are trying to avoid! I think Phil and kai have spots 1 and 2 locked in and cuttler just because of his name might get 3rd. I don't see anybody else as a threat! So Ramy will at least get 4th place maybe 3rd.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: whitewidow on August 04, 2013, 03:12:32 PM
I would like to see kai win because he def got robbed last year and I think he is better then phil. Phil has not impressed me. Phil is so narrow. Phil is able to pack on alot of lean muscle though. Phil has some of the best seperation as well but Kai is just as good and is just freakier. Phil beats kai because he does come in leaner and has great seperation everywhere also he is a pretty boy and good for promoting the sport. Not saying Phil does not deserve winning but if kai didn't do all that weird gay 4 pay shit the outcome might be diffrent.

Think about it , if younger teenage 14-15 yr old kids who got into bodybuilding became kai fans and googled his name and saw him fucking fruit it would be awful that is what They are trying to avoid! I think Phil and kai have spots 1 and 2 locked in and cuttler just because of his name might get 3rd. I don't see anybody else as a threat! So Ramy will at least get 4th place maybe 3rd.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: rooseveltdunn on August 04, 2013, 03:24:21 PM
If his conditioning is on point and he stayed similar to his NY showing ramy will be top 5, they should no be able to deny him that, Kai and Phil have insane conditioning and muscle maturity though and the two best backs in BB right now, it comes down to how good of a condition Ramy brings, you never know he may very well surprise everyone and just shock the world...but I still got Phil this year.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 04, 2013, 03:32:45 PM
Apologies for the poor communication, my good man.  By the small waistline and equal weight comment, I actually meant that Rami is the biggest we've seen.


I guess we'll see how things play out, nay? :)  I was long since pulling for Cedric McMillan, but as you said, the fucker's too lazy to get rid of that last bit of bodyfat and blame it all on "water" :roll:


LAME!

Cedric talks too much..all talk... and cockiness...


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: 99 Bananas on August 04, 2013, 03:45:07 PM
Ramy is overhyped. Won't come with proper condition. Huge fail.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: OTHstrong on August 04, 2013, 04:16:12 PM
My spreadsheet does not lie. Those two posters are gimmicks anyway.

I ask getbig: who is smart enough to pull all of this off?
possibly, if he tries to play the size game then he will fall and get what Dennis Wolf got the year he competed in the mid 280's and if he shows up like New York top 4 with ease, if he dials in even harder then lights out for everyone.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: syntaxmachine on August 04, 2013, 11:38:44 PM
It actually makes a lot of sense. The middle east is booming on the bodybuilding scene, it is huge down there now, especially in the regions Ramy is from, he can bring in millions of followers and the Arab community has money and he is young and looks pretty marketable as well, he lives in the middle of Europe-Asia and the south pacific-India and Pakistan. This is fresh market that would cater to a Ramy more so then even Phil

An athlete — "athlete," in the case of the IFBB — serving as a lure for foreign fans from his/her country doesn't necessarily receive competitive privileges (e.g., Yamagishi). The IFBB can have its molokheya and eat it, garnering extra fandom from the Middle East via Ramy without thereby making him Mr Olympia.

Really, who thinks a non-English speaker from a country that votes the Muslim Brotherhood into power and which may serve as the site for the next major Al Qaeda attack (see the latest embassy closings) is going to become the face of American bodybuilding over homegrown competitors?


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on August 05, 2013, 08:04:04 AM
An athlete — "athlete," in the case of the IFBB — serving as a lure for foreign fans from his/her country doesn't necessarily receive competitive privileges (e.g., Yamagishi). The IFBB can have its molokheya and eat it, garnering extra fandom from the Middle East via Ramy without thereby making him Mr Olympia.

Really, who thinks a non-English speaker from a country that votes the Muslim Brotherhood into power and which may serve as the site for the next major Al Qaeda attack (see the latest embassy closings) is going to become the face of American bodybuilding over homegrown competitors?

The so-called "powers-that-be," i.e., the IFBB lumpenschmoeletariat, need to consider these important Ramyfications.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: OTHstrong on August 05, 2013, 08:54:04 AM
An athlete — "athlete," in the case of the IFBB — serving as a lure for foreign fans from his/her country doesn't necessarily receive competitive privileges (e.g., Yamagishi). The IFBB can have its molokheya and eat it, garnering extra fandom from the Middle East via Ramy without thereby making him Mr Olympia.

Really, who thinks a non-English speaker from a country that votes the Muslim Brotherhood into power and which may serve as the site for the next major Al Qaeda attack (see the latest embassy closings) is going to become the face of American bodybuilding over homegrown competitors?
OK, you sound like a dam CT, who gives a shit about what you just said, this is bodybuilding not a presidential election, wtf.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Red29 on August 05, 2013, 06:37:10 PM
i know how ramy will place at the o.

he will plac at the placing hes given on that day, very simple.

its impossible to predivct, some come in shape, some spill over, some destroy condition with last minute shenanigans etc.



and some accidently bite the judges cock when blowing them in order to secure a certain placing and thus ruin their shot at the title


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: OTHstrong on August 05, 2013, 06:57:59 PM
Apologies for the poor communication, my good man.  By the small waistline and equal weight comment, I actually meant that Rami is the biggest we've seen.

To be sure, prime Ronnie and Ruehl both had moments in which we all pretty much said, "Holy fuck, no one could be that wide" and/or "No one could carry that much muscle without looking downright sloppy"; but Rami?  I agree with you:  he has arrived.  IF he comes in to the Olympia shredded, I predict he'll place in the top 4 -- and he'll probably be outrageously robbed in such a placing. 

I will bet the PTB will want Phil, Kai and Jay in the top three, no matter what.  If Rami is shredded and has some calves to show, he'll probably deserve second, perhaps the entire bloody show.  But I still see him finishing just out of the top three due to politics :(  That sucks, but by my reckoning, the IFBB has exercised its shittiest judging since perhaps the very early 80s.  Nasser fans can whine and bitch all they like, but IMO, even a severely wounded Yates won enough compulsories to whip cross-eyed boy's ass for the title in '97.  I do think Ronnie should've had some kind of serious come-uppance at the O in '02, but just the same, I thought he barely won the '06 Olympia to a fairly mediocre Jay Cutler. 

I guess we'll see how things play out, nay? :)  I was long since pulling for Cedric McMillan, but as you said, the fucker's too lazy to get rid of that last bit of bodyfat and blame it all on "water" :roll:

LAME!
I actually read your post after again and realized I misunderstood you but I had already responded, me and you are on the same page and we both know full well Dorian is the GOAT as well, lol  ;)

As for Ronnie, he will always look freakier then everyone cause of his insertions and muscle shape but lb for lb Ramy is the same size and definitely will be bigger as well, let's just hope he does not get bigger at the expense of his gut like everyone else has, but so far his gut is not suffering from his size so he may even have 10 more lb which is scary, he will succeed Phil and be a MULTIPLE OLYMPIA WINNER among the greats.


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: OTHstrong on August 05, 2013, 07:00:42 PM
Kai will beat Ramy! You have anymore money you want to risk losing. I think your top 4 bet is agood one but finish second over kai? No way! Not his first year. Plus Kai is just as good and while ramy might weigh more kai holds alot of lean muscle mass and has better seperation everywhere. look at mustafah Muhamed and then look at ramy they look alot alike. Both have enormous quads.
all my bets so far are for top 4, with exception of 100 dollars for top 3 which I am still comfortable with, if Ramy falls outside the top 4 I am out so far 1000 dollars.

So if Ramy is reading this, fuck bro 1 grand is a lot of money for me so don't fuck this up!!!!!   :D


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: whitewidow on August 06, 2013, 02:35:55 AM
all my bets so far are for top 4, with exception of 100 dollars for top 3 which I am still comfortable with, if Ramy falls outside the top 4 I am out so far 1000 dollars.

So if Ramy is reading this, fuck bro 1 grand is a lot of money for me so don't fuck this up!!!!!   :D

 I think you have made some good bets. There really isn't anybody who I can see knocking ramy out of 3rd or 4th place.You should win some cash. Now top 3 that would be diffrent. I would be a risky bet. $th place gives you some breathing room, but place higher then kai no way!


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: ultra_blue on August 06, 2013, 09:05:34 PM
could someone please elaborate on HOW ramy has achieved such a large amount of muscle mass without fucking up his gut?  does he have access to high quality human grade pharma gear?  is this the MAIN reason as to why he is just so muscular and has really came out of nowhere?  as i recall, steroids, ancillaries, etc... are sold in Egypt without a prescription.

let's be real here guys, bb is all about the drugs!


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on August 06, 2013, 09:19:41 PM
could someone please elaborate on HOW ramy has achieved such a large amount of muscle mass without fucking up his gut?  does he have access to high quality human grade pharma gear?  is this the MAIN reason as to why he is just so muscular and has really came out of nowhere?  as i recall, steroids, ancillaries, etc... are sold in Egypt without a prescription.

let's be real here guys, bb is all about the drugs!

I think it's just his short tenure in the sport, coupled with phenomenal genetics. As I've gotten bigger into the 230-240 range, even at low Bodyfat, I've still seen my midsection grow to an extent. No gut yet, but I have a feeling if I was to be blasting GH/Slin, I would be prone to this. I feel like guys like rami are less susceptible to this and his muscle mass on top of his  phenomenal structure will always be a step ahead of his guts ability to balloon up.

What really intrigues me is if he is able to keep the gut down in the next 5 years, and at what cost.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 06, 2013, 09:38:57 PM
5th.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Red29 on August 06, 2013, 10:08:32 PM
I think it's just his short tenure in the sport, coupled with phenomenal genetics. As I've gotten bigger into the 230-240 range, even at low Bodyfat, I've still seen my midsection grow to an extent. No gut yet, but I have a feeling if I was to be blasting GH/Slin, I would be prone to this. I feel like guys like rami are less susceptible to this and his muscle mass on top of his  phenomenal structure will always be a step ahead of his guts ability to balloon up.

What really intrigues me is if he is able to keep the gut down in the next 5 years, and at what cost.

I think you are pretty spot on. I also suspect he has access to the BEST drugs around and not just AAS. I mean igf1 slin gh and other such peptides. And in massive amounts. He also has the genetics to handle extreme use and has excellent response to drugs. He also probably didnt fuck around with pussy dosages and was guided early on by someone much the same as phil heath was guided by jay cutler. Basically. Hes done everything right to get to Olympia level in record time.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: a_ahmed on August 06, 2013, 10:57:15 PM
OK, you sound like a dam CT, who gives a shit about what you just said, this is bodybuilding not a presidential election, wtf.

LOL! That was funny :P


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: OTHstrong on August 07, 2013, 12:11:09 AM
could someone please elaborate on HOW ramy has achieved such a large amount of muscle mass without fucking up his gut?  does he have access to high quality human grade pharma gear?  is this the MAIN reason as to why he is just so muscular and has really came out of nowhere?  as i recall, steroids, ancillaries, etc... are sold in Egypt without a prescription.

let's be real here guys, bb is all about the drugs!
i know this is going to sound stupid but literally he lives at the gym,  i mean that is his home address the gym, he sleeps in a bed in a room upstairs.  I suspect he trains, eats, hormones, sleeps repeat literally 24 hours a day, seven days a week


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: ukjeff on August 07, 2013, 12:16:17 AM
i know this is going to sound stupid but literally he lives at the gym,  i mean that is his home address the gym, he sleeps in a bed in a room upstairs.  I suspect he trains, eats, hormones, sleeps repeat literally 24 hours a day, seven days a week

Yet Dorian made his gains training 3 hours a week.

Go figure


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: OTHstrong on August 07, 2013, 12:26:48 AM
Yet Dorian made his gains training 3 hours a week.

Go figure
this is a different protocol, see slin allows you to flush nutrients in while you are massively pumped. you can train 3 times a day and gorge one muscle group at a time with nutrients by gorging that individual muscle with blood and keep this up day in day out, which is what i suspect he does.

only a select few can take this approach, a true genetic freak


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: whitewidow on August 07, 2013, 01:04:07 AM
this is a different protocol, see slin allows you to flush nutrients in while you are massively pumped. you can train 3 times a day and gorge one muscle group at a time with nutrients by gorging that individual muscle with blood and keep this up day in day out, which is what i suspect he does.

only a select few can take this approach, a true genetic freak

I would like to see a lifting video where he is lifting some heavy free weights like kai does. Not using hammer strength. I know he was carb dpleted and was days pout from the NY pro but he wasn't that impressive and I understand the insulin protocols ,but how is it that much diffrent then kais? Kai was incline benching 500lbs 8 days out. I think Ramy would tear a muscle trying to do that. whatever the situation ramy is huge and I think you will win some cash


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: OTHstrong on August 07, 2013, 08:49:41 AM
I would like to see a lifting video where he is lifting some heavy free weights like kai does. Not using hammer strength. I know he was carb dpleted and was days pout from the NY pro but he wasn't that impressive and I understand the insulin protocols ,but how is it that much diffrent then kais? Kai was incline benching 500lbs 8 days out. I think Ramy would tear a muscle trying to do that. whatever the situation ramy is huge and I think you will win some cash
Ramy won't do that, he only cares about what makes his muscles bigger, not a video, this guy is the perfectly trained bodybuilder around the clock and does not deviate in his training system over some ego lift.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: BRO on August 07, 2013, 09:06:09 AM
i know this is going to sound stupid but literally he lives at the gym,  i mean that is his home address the gym, he sleeps in a bed in a room upstairs.  I suspect he trains, eats, hormones, sleeps repeat literally 24 hours a day, seven days a week

How long has Ramy been training for? Is he in his 30s?


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: OTHstrong on August 07, 2013, 09:11:02 AM
How long has Ramy been training for? Is he in his 30s?
I think he is 28 or 29, not older though and it is true he has been training for 4 years straight now, however this is after a 3 year layoff, before then he was probably juiced and hormonized to the max for years and years, who know.

I suspect he was nearly 300lb before his lay off and they are leaving that part out to make it seem like he gained 80 lb of muscle in record time.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: BRO on August 07, 2013, 09:20:32 AM
I think he is 28 or 29, not older though and it is true he has been training for 4 years straight now, however this is after a 3 year layoff, before then he was probably juiced and hormonized to the max for years and years, who know.

I suspect he was nearly 300lb before his lay off and they are leaving that part out to make it seem like he gained 80 lb of muscle in record time.

His body must be close to being maxed out if he is near 300... His waist will begin to grow as he ages, and with more dosing...


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: BRO on August 07, 2013, 09:21:21 AM
I would like to see a lifting video where he is lifting some heavy free weights like kai does. Not using hammer strength. I know he was carb dpleted and was days pout from the NY pro but he wasn't that impressive and I understand the insulin protocols ,but how is it that much diffrent then kais? Kai was incline benching 500lbs 8 days out. I think Ramy would tear a muscle trying to do that. whatever the situation ramy is huge and I think you will win some cash

Kai is one of the few "strong" bodybuilders, pre contest.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: flinstones1 on August 07, 2013, 09:46:46 AM
according to gh15, big "rami" is his pupil and has been following the bible to the T for years ::)

akk sugar water and bunk kigs ;D ;D


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: BRO on August 07, 2013, 09:53:48 AM
according to gh15, big "rami" is his pupil and has been following the bible to the T for years ::)

akk sugar water and bunk kigs ;D ;D

Hmm... So this would mean Rami knows GH15 personally?


Title: Re: ramy final placing at olympia
Post by: flinstones1 on August 07, 2013, 09:56:14 AM
Kai will beat Ramy! You have anymore money you want to risk losing. I think your top 4 bet is agood one but finish second over kai? No way! Not his first year. Plus Kai is just as good and while ramy might weigh more kai holds alot of lean muscle mass and has better seperation everywhere. look at mustafah Muhamed and then look at ramy they look alot alike. Both have enormous quads.

I agree


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: slate on August 07, 2013, 03:02:05 PM
fuk knows where he will place. stupid discussion

what i want to know is: is big ramy the next big white hope? i.e is he white?

i urge the numerous resident experts on racial profiling to please chime in


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: OTHstrong on August 07, 2013, 04:26:22 PM
fuk knows where he will place. stupid discussion

what i want to know is: is big ramy the next big white hope? i.e is he white?

i urge the numerous resident experts on racial profiling to please chime in
he will lock down the olympia for years, count on it.  ;)


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: flinstones1 on August 07, 2013, 04:28:07 PM
he will lock down the olympia for years, count on it.  ;)


yup, kuclo is fucked ;D


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: OTHstrong on September 18, 2013, 01:08:00 PM
11-12 days until my cash transfer. Please deposit the funds into your paypal account now.
Don\t count your chickens before they hatch  :-\


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: WalterWhite on September 18, 2013, 01:18:05 PM
Peter McGough surprised me with this and it may be the prelude to a low placing.  The timing of this and the use of the word "overrated" is a " low-blowed attempt to derail Big Ramy".
http://musculardevelopment.com/team-md-blogs/the-mcgough-report/12111-big-ramy.html#.UjoYWeDFUy7Why he’s overrated!

The biggest talking point at this year’s upcoming Mr. Olympia shindig– beside Bob Chick’s sartorial decisions – is the debut of 285-pound Big Ramy. When he made his winning pro debut at last May’s New York Pro he was the biggest thing to hit bodybuilding since King Kamali’s ego.

Stacking 285 pounds on his 5’10” frame, the 28 year old Egyptian – who now lives in Kuwait – stunned all those in attendance onstage and offstage not just with his huge muscle size but also his balance and shape and a waist taper unusual for most belonging to the mass monsters club. Quite simply we have not seen someone of this size and this complete before. But to my tired peepers there are four factors to be considered before we crown Big Ramy the 14th Mr. Olympia champ.

Factor One: Shock Value Won’t Last: There is no doubt that Big Ramy shook the Tribeca to its rafters, putting the local fire departments on earthquake alert, and stunned everyone in his pro debut. The sheer size of the guy took the breath away and backed up by his proportions and tight waist the fact that he did have some weaknesses were maybe overlooked. Going into the Olympia he won’t have that same “first impressions” shock value? The same surprise element won’t be there. Like losing your virginity, it only happens once – personally I can’t wait.

Factor Two: The Victor Factor: The main plotline going into the 2012 New York Pro was the return of Victor Martinez after nearly two years away from competition. Now let it be said that the Victor Martinez who appeared on May 25 and was runner-up to Big Ramy isn’t the best Victor (a formidable opponent indeed) we’ve seen. He was conditioned but was leaner and little flattish in some areas, but overall he had crisper detail than Ramy. The latter usually being the clinching winning factor. But to return to the question of a best ever Victor (probably his second place at the 2007 Olympia) it’s a truism that veteran competitors like the popular Dominican are judged not only on who is standing next to them but also against their former best. This probably hurt Victor’s placing. That is not a knock against the judges: It’s human nature in all walks of life to compare the past against the present. A Victor in prime shape would have probably beaten Ramy. Plus in reviewing the full line-up, of the 18 others Ramy finished ahead of only two (Martinez and Marcus Haley) have ever made an Olympia appearance. This is not strictly to say it was a weak field, more it was a field of mostly youngish talent who are still WIP.

Factor Three: Ramy’s Weaknesses: Now speaking of weaknesses at Ramy’s level of physical development is like criticizing Roger Federer’s backhand, but when there’s talk about our subject winning this year’s Olympia closer inspection is required. Big Ramy had a couple of pointed anomalies in the pec area which are usually punished. His thighs are humungous (like he’s got a bantamweight strapped to each leg) but from what was seen in New York they lacked deep separation and cross striations. Also his hams (from the back) and calves need improvement. His back while maybe being the widest around could still use a bit more thickness and certainly detail in order to joust with the Heaths and Greenes of the bodybuilding world. Chest could be thicker also.

Factor Four: The Devil’s In The Details In my opinion Ramy wasn’t 100 per cent dialed in in New York He wasn’t bone dry which made him unable to exhibit rock hard muscle: It seemed there was a slight blurriness caused by a thin film of water. We didn’t see the sort of detail that is needed for a top six Olympia spot. Some pundits are of the opinion that if Ramy drops ten pounds then look out Phil Heath. On the other hand dropping ten pounds won’t give him more back thickness, better calves and hams and cross striations in his thighs. It may be that Heathlike detail is not there to be mined out. Like most factors in bodybuilding the bottom line is genetics: you either have that feathery type detail embedded in the muscles or you don’t. Training another few years will enable muscle maturity to kick in and improve separation, but it won’t unearth crazy detail if it’s not inherent in the genes. To defeat a Mr. Olympia history proves you have to beat him at his own game or wait for his decline. Phil’s Heath game is packing his physique with more detail than we’ve seen before: He’s the Devil with the details everyone else has to get past. In viewing the top four at last year’s Olympia (in order Phil Heath, Kai Greene, Shawn Rhoden, Dexter Jackson) they all would appear to have Ramy beaten in the detail department.

WAIT AND SEE
This has not been a low-blowed attempt to derail Big Ramy. I think he’s livened up the bodybuilding scene like no other competitor in recent years, and we should treasure him as he develops (maybe to Mr. Olympia status) not overburden him with impossible expectations. Making the top six would be a tremendous achievement for the rookie but to expect him to win this year is liking expecting Miley Cirus to keep her clothes on from now on. Ain’t gonna happen.
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Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: syntaxmachine on September 28, 2013, 03:07:14 AM
In one fell swoop, Team Rami and Team Fake Muslim Troll have been routed.

I expect my cash payment within the next 10 days.

OTH, your word is on the line. I have a mod willing to enforce the terms of our contract; don't let it come to that.

If Ramy places in the top four, I will transfer the positively princely purse of $250* to the paypal account of your preference (hey, betting large amounts of money is for morons), post a pic of myself (humiliating for me), and not log in to getbig for a month

done

make it 150 dollars though, as I am already 850 dollars into bets for Ramy, so an even 1000 dollars is my capping.  ;)

I said I will pay, you have my word, my rep is on the line.

In before syntax gets made fun off and runs off crying.

I'm all tuned in. :D


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2013, 03:52:01 AM
Looks like Ramy is out of the top 6  ;D


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 28, 2013, 03:58:23 AM
Looks like Ramy is out of the top 6  ;D
11th place. All the hype on this dude where is at?


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2013, 04:17:35 AM
11th place. All the hype on this dude where is at?

lol I said there would be a LOT of disappointed Ramy fans  ;D


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 28, 2013, 04:30:45 AM
lol I said there would be a LOT of disappointed Ramy fans  ;D
You were on the money.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: whitewidow on September 28, 2013, 06:21:30 AM
Man no offense to One time hard but I wanted in this bet badly. I thought there was no way ramy would place 4th or higher. Even Dennis james said there humble goal was 5th or 6th place but who knows they still might give ramy 3rd place. I hate gambling usually because of beating spreads but this is diffrent then sports betting very hard to crack top 5 very first Mr. Olympia I don't think Phil Heath placed higher then 4th place his first Mr.O. I hope One time hard wins since I didn't get in the bet but I hope if he loses he dosn't take it too hard. everybody has lost a bet.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Vince B on September 28, 2013, 06:39:06 AM
Steve W is now high up in the judging. He used to get booed at contests and would challenge those booing to a fight. That says it all in the IFBB or pro BS. Who picks the judges and why isn't there openness?

Rami is the only guy who amazed me in the lineup. The guy is huge. Phil wins this year and everyone else is second. I wouldn't pay any attention to the places after first. We all know how the system works. Since Rami isn't that well known they can place others over him. Kai second, then Dexter or Dennis. Where do you place Jay? Then Shawn Rhoden is up there. That means Rami might get 7th.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: OTHstrong on September 28, 2013, 07:01:59 AM
Man no offense to One time hard but I wanted in this bet badly. I thought there was no way ramy would place 4th or higher. Even Dennis james said there humble goal was 5th or 6th place but who knows they still might give ramy 3rd place. I hate gambling usually because of beating spreads but this is diffrent then sports betting very hard to crack top 5 very first Mr. Olympia I don't think Phil Heath placed higher then 4th place his first Mr.O. I hope One time hard wins since I didn't get in the bet but I hope if he loses he dosn't take it too hard. everybody has lost a bet.
haha It's all good bro, I am man enough to admit when I am wrong, as soon as I seen WOLF, I was like there goes the top 4, then DEXTER AND SHAWN were fucken peeled and brought it big ime.

You know conditioning with everyone has been an issue but this year everyone dialed in nicely, RAMY WILL BE 7TH, he has to come in harder, 10lb lighter

As for me I am out of getbig because I lost the bet with syntax (bastard  :D)  So after today see you guys in a few months.

Will still answer PMs though


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on September 28, 2013, 07:09:13 AM

TwinkiLeaks reports that Schmoehammad El-Rothschildi, the malodorous Cairo-based sebaceous oil magnate, lobbied hard behind green doors for an Elssbiay Olympia triumph at the last Bilderberg Conference. Stay tuned, Ramy-nosers.

UPDATE:

In fast-breaking news related to Marmaduke "Big Shamy" Ellsbiay's 2013 Mr. Olympia showing, TwinkiLeaks has learned that a red-faced Schmoehammad El-Rothschildi is in total financial ruin, as well as in dirty underpants. The German periodical Des Kaisers Handtuch is in the process of tying together the shocking details, and will be releasing more information pending the 2013 Mr. Olympia final results. Stay tuned, Ramy-nosers.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2013, 07:45:52 AM
UPDATE:

In fast-breaking news related to Marmaduke "Big Shamy" Ellsbiay's 2013 Mr. Olympia showing, TwinkiLeaks has learned that a red-faced Schmoehammad El-Rothschildi is in total financial ruin, as well as in dirty underpants. The German periodical Des Kaisers Handtuch is in the process of tying together the shocking details, and will be releasing more information pending the 2013 Mr. Olympia final results. Stay tuned, Ramy-nosers.
More detailed than the BBC.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2013, 07:49:19 AM
haha It's all good bro, I am man enough to admit when I am wrong, as soon as I seen WOLF, I was like there goes the top 4, then DEXTER AND SHAWN were fucken peeled and brought it big ime.

You know conditioning with everyone has been an issue but this year everyone dialed in nicely, RAMY WILL BE 7TH, he has to come in harder, 10lb lighter

As for me I am out of getbig because I lost the bet with syntax (bastard  :D)  So after today see you guys in a few months.

Will still answer PMs though

Stand up guy right here. And hey being top 10 in your very first Olympia is pretty fucking amazing.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Ronnie Rep on September 28, 2013, 07:55:53 AM
I think 7th is pretty accurate judging from prejudging! But some guys might dry out or get watery at the finals!


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2013, 07:57:01 AM
haha It's all good bro, I am man enough to admit when I am wrong, as soon as I seen WOLF, I was like there goes the top 4, then DEXTER AND SHAWN were fucken peeled and brought it big ime.

You know conditioning with everyone has been an issue but this year everyone dialed in nicely, RAMY WILL BE 7TH, he has to come in harder, 10lb lighter

As for me I am out of getbig because I lost the bet with syntax (bastard  :D)  So after today see you guys in a few months.

Will still answer PMs though
::)

 ;D just kidding. I know you and I went back and forth on this...but at least you keep your word. Stand up guy.


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: OTHstrong on September 28, 2013, 08:01:39 AM
::)

 ;D just kidding. I know you and I went back and forth on this...but at least you keep your word. Stand up guy.
I will gladly accept an ''I told you so'' from you, but my boy WOLF is kicking ass so I that is the next best thing  ;)


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2013, 08:05:11 AM
I will gladly accept an ''I told you so'' from you, but my boy WOLF is kicking ass so I that is the next best thing  ;)
;D
Well, if Wolf is kicking ass, he can't hurt anything without calves...


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: OTHstrong on September 28, 2013, 08:06:39 AM
;D
Well, if Wolf is kicking ass, he can't hurt anything without calves...

;D


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: OTHstrong on September 28, 2013, 08:10:54 AM
Long time since I have been on this Fountain of Bodybuilding Wisdom, but I couldn't help being curious for the ultimate meltdown of Mr. 3%.

Seems like a certain Syntax-guy managed to shut him up for at least a few months from now on. Is there a reward on this? Can I donate somewhere? Does Ron financially value this raise of credibility of his site? I may hope so. Thank you Syntax.
;D

hey look, I HAVE A FAN  :)


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 28, 2013, 11:49:39 AM
Steve W is now high up in the judging. He used to get booed at contests and would challenge those booing to a fight. That says it all in the IFBB or pro BS. Who picks the judges and why isn't there openness?

Rami is the only guy who amazed me in the lineup. The guy is huge. Phil wins this year and everyone else is second. I wouldn't pay any attention to the places after first. We all know how the system works. Since Rami isn't that well known they can place others over him. Kai second, then Dexter or Dennis. Where do you place Jay? Then Shawn Rhoden is up there. That means Rami might get 7th.
Shut up and go chase Goodrum.


Title: Re: Calling Out OTH On The Camel Jockey Fandom (Ramy Bet)
Post by: epic_alien on September 29, 2013, 01:12:53 AM
ramy dude

6-8th

i said this weeks ago after everyone got up on his nuts

and 8-10 is more likely

looks like i was spot on 8th place
wheres the pipe smokers now?


Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - Big Ramy's final placing at olympia will be
Post by: 240 is Back on September 11, 2014, 02:53:44 PM
I think 7th is pretty accurate judging from prejudging! But some guys might dry out or get watery at the finals!