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Title: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: 240 is Back on July 26, 2013, 08:53:53 PM
Sarah Palin to Greta VanSusteren: “I was not allowed to talk about things like that because those ‘elitists,’ those who are the brainiacs in the GOP machine, running John McCain’s campaign at the time said that the media would eat us alive if we brought up these things.”

Read more: http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/07/26/sarah-palin-we-weren’t-allowed-tell-truth-about-obama-2008-campaign-and-now-we-have#ixzz2aCHe7oVN
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2013, 02:27:23 AM
Yup.  She was the only one calling out Imam Obamafat for the terrorist ally he is
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: avxo on July 27, 2013, 05:08:38 PM
Who the hell pays attention to Sarah Palin in 2013? Her five minutes were up long ago, as are the twenty-five minutes she borrowed borrowed. Why hasn't she gone back to Bumfuck, Alaska and faded into the obscurity she came from already?
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: 240 is Back on July 27, 2013, 08:23:17 PM
Yup.  She was the only one calling out Imam Obamafat for the terrorist ally he is

why didn't she run in 2012?  Why is she absent from national scene for 2016, no infrastructure in place like the others?
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 28, 2013, 07:09:43 AM
Who the hell pays attention to Sarah Palin in 2013? Her five minutes were up long ago, as are the twenty-five minutes she borrowed borrowed. Why hasn't she gone back to Bumfuck, Alaska and faded into the obscurity she came from already?

Who the hell pays attention to Obama the manufactured "President"?
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: avxo on July 28, 2013, 09:39:13 AM
Who the hell pays attention to Obama the manufactured "President"?

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you Joe: he's an obsessed, inarticulate and irrational fool who wears partisan blinders. Decent physique though.
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 28, 2013, 09:48:17 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you Joe: he's an obsessed, inarticulate and irrational fool who wears partisan blinders. Decent physique though.

No one pays attention to Obama `other than to laugh at him for his ineptitude i/e Putin, etc 
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: avxo on July 28, 2013, 09:58:34 AM
No one pays attention to Obama `other than to laugh at him for his ineptitude i/e Putin, etc 

And this has what to do, exactly, with Palin? You guys come across as little petty children. "But... wah... Susie got to play with Barbie... wah... wah..."

Whether you like it or not, Obama is the President of the United States. That means that people do pay attention - whether he's doing a truly horrible job, or merely a bad one is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 28, 2013, 10:06:25 AM
No one pays attention to Obama `other than to laugh at him for his ineptitude i/e Putin, etc 

Funny considering he occupies all three brain cells in your head 24/7.
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 28, 2013, 10:08:17 AM
Funny considering he occupies all three brain cells in your head 24/7.


Everyone likes watching a rolling train wreck. 
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: avxo on July 28, 2013, 10:13:35 AM

Everyone likes watching a rolling train wreck. 

The polarization that you and others like you have forced down the throat of this nation will ensure that we'll have plenty of rolling train wrecks to watch as more and more partisan and extreme Presidents, Senators and Representatives are elected to conduct the business of the People and the Nation.

So... uhm... thanks I guess?
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 28, 2013, 10:15:01 AM
The polarization that you and others like you have forced down the throat of this nation will ensure that we'll have plenty of rolling train wrecks to watch as more and more partisan and extreme Presidents, Senators and Representatives are elected to conduct the business of the People and the Nation.

So... uhm... thanks I guess?

Aaron Burr ring a bell to you?

Politics has always been bloodsport.
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: avxo on July 28, 2013, 10:20:41 AM
Aaron Burr ring a bell to you?

Politics has always been bloodsport.


I see nothing relevant with the Aaron Burr story, and it's not about politics being a blood sport or not.

It's about people like you and Joe, who seethe world as black and white and become obsessed, foregoing all rationality and reason, and judging everything based on caricatures and a letter in parentheses. That's why you function like you do.

All that you look for is that party affiliation. And you operate under this algorithm: "Is it (R)? We're good and here's a patriot to cheer for!!! Is it (D)? Boo, get out you fucking commie!!!"
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 28, 2013, 10:27:24 AM
I see nothing relevant with the Aaron Burr story, and it's not about politics being a blood sport or not.

It's about people like you and Joe, who seethe world as black and white and become obsessed, foregoing all rationality and reason, and judging everything based on caricatures and a letter in parentheses. That's why you function like you do.

All that you look for is that party affiliation. And you operate under this algorithm: "Is it (R)? We're good and here's a patriot to cheer for!!! Is it (D)? Boo, get out you fucking commie!!!"

Not true.  I called out Rubio, W, Jeb, Boehner, McCain, W, Romney etc all the time

And why should I not utterly detest Obama?  The man started his political career in the living of a domestic left wing terrorist who bombed the Pentagon, then proceeded to spend 20 years in a racist church a radical black liberation theologian and lied about it, pushes an agenda I find beyond revolting on all levels, and spends day and night attacking the things I support.  Sorry - when that ghetto scumbag waste of life appointed Holder to be AG and tried moving KSW trial to GZ and then got behind the mosque - that was it for me.  Obama has not so much as lifted a finger to try to assist the American people in any way or form.   

I did not like George W either, and I resigned from the GOP in 2005. 

Its not about party for me at all - I call out tons of repubs ALL THE TIME. 
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: avxo on July 28, 2013, 10:39:39 AM
Not true.  I called out Rubio, W, Jeb, Boehner, McCain, W, Romney etc all the time

And why should I not utterly detest Obama?  The man started his political career in the living of a domestic left wing terrorist who bombed the Pentagon, then proceeded to spend 20 years in a racist church a radical black liberation theologian and lied about it, pushes an agenda I find beyond revolting on all levels, and spends day and night attacking the things I support.  Sorry - when that ghetto scumbag waste of life appointed Holder to be AG and tried moving KSW trial to GZ and then got behind the mosque - that was it for me.  Obama has not so much as lifted a finger to try to assist the American people in any way or form.   

I did not like George W either, and I resigned from the GOP in 2005. 

Its not about party for me at all - I call out tons of repubs ALL THE TIME. 

I guess that's a fair point - you do call out Republicans out from time to time; I still think that you read way too much onto party affiliation when it comes to democrats though and you still kindle the sort hyper-partisan, polarized environment I described earlier though.

I stand partially corrected.
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 28, 2013, 10:49:58 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you Joe: he's an obsessed, inarticulate and irrational fool who wears partisan blinders. Decent physique though.

Other than that, I'm often right.
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: andreisdaman on July 28, 2013, 10:54:49 AM
Yup.  She was the only one calling out Imam Obamafat for the terrorist ally he is

Calling someone a terrorist ally is way over the top..and she was dead wrong considering that Obama has been tougher on terrorism than anybody
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: avxo on July 28, 2013, 11:30:55 AM
Calling someone a terrorist ally is way over the top..and she was dead wrong considering that Obama has been tougher on terrorism than anybody

Now that's just plain silly... Which brings me to this, slightly repetitive message:

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you andreisdaman: he's an obsessed, inarticulate and irrational fool who wears partisan blinders.

Please take a bow idiot.
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 28, 2013, 02:01:22 PM
Other than that, I'm often right.

By often you mean never correct?
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: Skip8282 on July 29, 2013, 04:00:49 PM
Sarah Palin to Greta VanSusteren: “I was not allowed to talk about things like that because those ‘elitists,’ those who are the brainiacs in the GOP machine, running John McCain’s campaign at the time said that the media would eat us alive if we brought up these things.”

Read more: http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/07/26/sarah-palin-we-weren’t-allowed-tell-truth-about-obama-2008-campaign-and-now-we-have#ixzz2aCHe7oVN




Man she looks hot there.

I was talking with an intern who worked on McCain's campaign (not at any high level) and he was saying that there were grumblings of strategic blunders very early in the campaign that caused a lot of interns to quit.

I don't know if it's true or not...but I think the evidence is pretty good that it might be, lol.
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: avxo on July 29, 2013, 05:33:52 PM



Man she looks hot there.

I was talking with an intern who worked on McCain's campaign (not at any high level) and he was saying that there were grumblings of strategic blunders very early in the campaign that caused a lot of interns to quit.

I don't know if it's true or not...but I think the evidence is pretty good that it might be, lol.


And as wee all know that interns make or break a campaign. I mean, if not for them, who'd get Starbucks?
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 29, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
Translation : 5 years later still making excuses and trying to stay in the spotlight.
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: Skip8282 on July 29, 2013, 06:03:12 PM
And as wee all know that interns make or break a campaign. I mean, if not for them, who'd get Starbucks?



Maybe...but yeah, they do a lot of the bitch work for candidates.  Door to door flyers, administrative filings/organization, answering phones, signs...all that crap.  Basically volunteers that get college credit.  I'm not sure if there are any paid internships with campaigns (none on the campaigns I've worked on), but there might be at party HQ...IDK.

It is a great opportunity though for people looking to work in that field or someday campaign themselves.  What I don't get, is that current candidates sure seem to make a lot of the same mistakes over and over and over, lol.

Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: andreisdaman on July 29, 2013, 06:15:10 PM
Now that's just plain silly... Which brings me to this, slightly repetitive message:

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you andreisdaman: he's an obsessed, inarticulate and irrational fool who wears partisan blinders.

Please take a bow idiot.

wow..so you are saying that Obama has not been tough on terrorism????????......is that what you are saying?..because if you are, then you are definitely the dumbest fuck who ever walked the earth
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: Skip8282 on July 29, 2013, 06:24:42 PM
Lot's of hate in this thread...

Let me lighten it up with a pic of my imaginary wife...who just tonight, got my imaginary divorce when I learned she's an idiot.

Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: 240 is Back on July 29, 2013, 08:38:02 PM
Lot's of hate in this thread...

Let me lighten it up with a pic of my imaginary wife...who just tonight, got my imaginary divorce when I learned she's an idiot.



what did she say/do to make you think she's an idiot?
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: avxo on July 30, 2013, 01:22:11 AM
wow..so you are saying that Obama has not been tough on terrorism????????......is that what you are saying?..because if you are, then you are definitely the dumbest fuck who ever walked the earth

No. I was responding to your ridiculous assertion - which I highlighted when quoting your post. You wrote, “Obama has been tougher on terrorism than anybody.” That's simply not true. You can argue that Obama has been tough on terror, or tougher than other Presidents; I may even agree with you. But it's just flat out stupid to say that he's tougher than anybody - and it's a claim that's demonstrably false.
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2013, 07:20:26 AM
Under Sequester, U.S. Giving Islamists $500 Million
Investors Business Daily ^  | July 29, 2013 | Editorial

Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:07:22 AM by opentalk

Mideast: The sequester has "cost jobs," says President Obama, and "gutted investments in education and science and medical research." But somehow he's earmarked $500 million for Hamas terrorists.



Circumventing Congress and with no fanfare, President Obama last week issued an executive order enabling him to send an additional $500 million directly to the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank — much of which you can bet will wind up going to the Iranian-backed Hamas terrorist organization.



According to Obama, "it is important to the national security interests of the United States to waive the provisions of" Congress' legislative restrictions "in order to provide funds . .. to the Palestinian Authority."



At the beginning of his first term, Obama promised close to $1 billion in aid to the Palestinian Authority, with then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton pledging none of it would reach Hamas.



But the Hebrew-language newspaper Yediot Acharonot has documented that tens of millions of dollars in aid for the PA — from Israel — ended up being used by Hamas for weapons.


(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: Straw Man on July 30, 2013, 08:18:02 AM
Who the hell pays attention to Obama the manufactured "President"?

Hate Democracy much ?

The majority of your fellow citizens voted for him twice so deal with it
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: 240 is Back on July 30, 2013, 08:29:27 AM
Hate Democracy much ?

The majority of your fellow citizens voted for him twice so deal with it

the solution isn't to shit on obama... at this point, over the last SIX POTUS elections, you had a repub win 2 times (barely) and a Dem win 4 times rather comfortably. 

People can say "I'm conservative!" in plenty of polls, but looking at the last 6 elections, that speaks volumes

The solution is NOT to just shit on Obama... it's to come up with BETTER SOLUTIONS to the problems facing america. 
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: avxo on July 30, 2013, 09:23:57 AM
People can say "I'm conservative!" in plenty of polls, but looking at the last 6 elections, that speaks volumes

People are conservative, by an large. It's just that the meaning of the word has been twisted.

As for elections results, it's quite obvious that the GOP just isn't fielding the right people. They try to field people like Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin and Rick Perry. People who focus on all the wrong things, targeting a small niche which they think they have a connection with. They focus on things like whether teenagers get sex education or not, on whether women should be able to have abortions or not, and so on, instead of serious issues. And when they lose, they go on a search for people who are more wrong...

The same applies, by and large to democrats. The names and topics change, but it's the same tune.


The solution is NOT to just shit on Obama... it's to come up with BETTER SOLUTIONS to the problems facing america.  

The solution is for us to demand real politicians, not carefully hair-sprayed and scripted archetypes who speak in loud booming voices for many minutes at a time but do so in 30 second soundbites but, ultimately, say nothing at all.
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: 240 is Back on July 30, 2013, 09:30:21 AM
But the proof is in the pudding... whatever the cause, the Repubs are getting smashed in presidential elections.

Bush won twice, both times in very close elections that came down to ONE state with question marks. 

Obama and Clinton both won handily, twice, and Hilary is leading Chistie by 6 points in polls, and only a fool would say she doesn't have a decent chance in 2016. 

Repubs aren't winning the big election.   Whatever they're doing, nobody can say "it's working!"
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2013, 09:38:16 AM
But the proof is in the pudding... whatever the cause, the Repubs are getting smashed in presidential elections.

Bush won twice, both times in very close elections that came down to ONE state with question marks. 

Obama and Clinton both won handily, twice, and Hilary is leading Chistie by 6 points in polls, and only a fool would say she doesn't have a decent chance in 2016. 

Repubs aren't winning the big election.   Whatever they're doing, nobody can say "it's working!"


The candy man always is more popular than the dentist
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: avxo on July 30, 2013, 09:47:40 AM
But the proof is in the pudding... whatever the cause, the Repubs are getting smashed in presidential elections.

No... not "whatever the cause". The result isn't what's important; the cause is.


Obama and Clinton both won handily, twice, and Hilary is leading Chistie by 6 points in polls, and only a fool would say she doesn't have a decent chance in 2016.

The 2016 campaign season isn't for another 2 years... it's silly to make predictions about who does and doesn't have a decent chance in Presidential politics two years into the future.

With that said, I don't think she has a chance and she won't be elected President. If for no other reason, she 65 today (and, more importantly, looks it) and she'll be 67 in 2015, and would be 72 by 2020... Age is a difficult disadvantage to overcome.

As for who's leading in the polls in 2013, does it even matter who leads the polls in hypothetical matchups a couple of years before the campaign season? Hint: it doesn't.
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: 240 is Back on July 30, 2013, 12:04:14 PM
No... not "whatever the cause". The result isn't what's important; the cause is.


The 2016 campaign season isn't for another 2 years... it's silly to make predictions about who does and doesn't have a decent chance in Presidential politics two years into the future.

With that said, I don't think she has a chance and she won't be elected President. If for no other reason, she 65 today (and, more importantly, looks it) and she'll be 67 in 2015, and would be 72 by 2020... Age is a difficult disadvantage to overcome.

As for who's leading in the polls in 2013, does it even matter who leads the polls in hypothetical matchups a couple of years before the campaign season? Hint: it doesn't.


THe point is that TODAY, given 6 years of OBama bullshit, people are STILL saying they'd choose a DEM over a repub for Prez by 6 points.  Unbelievable to me.

Dems should be down by 15 points after all the crap obama has done - and dems LEAD?
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: avxo on July 30, 2013, 12:23:03 PM
THe point is that TODAY, given 6 years of OBama bullshit, people are STILL saying they'd choose a DEM over a repub for Prez by 6 points.  Unbelievable to me.

Because in their mind, Republican means Rick Santorum, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry and Herman Cain.

Now, take me. I'm fairly conservative when it comes to the economy. The best way to describe me would be "right-leaning libertarian." When it comes to Obama, I don't like his policies, his politics or his approach to governing. I don't think he's particularly good or effective as President. And I couldn't and didn't vote for him in either '08 or '12.

But you know something? The prospect of President Santorum scares the hell out of me. Same with President Palin, President Gingrich, President Perry or President Cain. I couldn't and wouldn't vote for any of them either.

So it doesn't surprise me that the GOP continues losing elections. Their candidates are, by and large, horrible and I refuse to vote for horrible candidates, because if I do, I'll only keep getting horrible candidates in the future.

Perhaps this is naive of me. Perhaps by not voting, I only achieve one thing: letting others decide for me, and not prompting the party to change and get back to its roots and away from the religious right, the neo-con chickenhawks, the intellectually deficient cabal that is currently at the helm and the "patriots" - or, should I say, the largely mindless drones - that wave Tea Party flags.

But I don't have any other way of expressing my displeasure with the GOP. I wrote letters and they didn't listen. I stopped contributing and they didn't listen. I stopped voting and they haven't listened... yet.


I think that there was merit to some Tea Party positions in the beginning, but it too was co-opted by idiots and fringe political elements. As a result, it morphed into an extreme and rather ugly caricature of a movement. It's a pity, because it had the potential to really reshape the GOP.
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2013, 12:26:10 PM
Good post - cant argue w any of it 

Because in their mind, Republican means Rick Santorum, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry and Herman Cain.

Now, take me. I'm fairly conservative when it comes to the economy. The best way to describe me would be "right-leaning libertarian." When it comes to Obama, I don't like his policies, his politics or his approach to governing. I don't think he's particularly good or effective as President. And I couldn't and didn't vote for him in either '08 or '12.

But you know something? The prospect of President Santorum scares the hell out of me. Same with President Palin, President Gingrich, President Perry or President Cain. I couldn't and wouldn't vote for any of them either.

So it doesn't surprise me that the GOP continues losing elections. Their candidates are, by and large, horrible and I refuse to vote for horrible candidates, because if I do, I'll only keep getting horrible candidates in the future.

Perhaps this is naive of me. Perhaps by not voting, I only achieve one thing: letting others decide for me, and not prompting the party to change and get back to its roots and away from the religious right, the neo-con chickenhawks, the intellectually deficient cabal that is currently at the helm and the "patriots" - or, should I say, the largely mindless drones - that wave Tea Party flags.

But I don't have any other way of expressing my displeasure with the GOP. I wrote letters and they didn't listen. I stopped contributing and they didn't listen. I stopped voting and they haven't listened... yet.


I think that there was merit to some Tea Party positions in the beginning, but it too was co-opted by idiots and fringe political elements. As a result, it morphed into an extreme and rather ugly caricature of a movement. It's a pity, because it had the potential to really reshape the GOP.
Title: Re: Palin unleashes on Mccain team, admits why she held back in 2008
Post by: 240 is Back on July 30, 2013, 12:30:17 PM
Because in their mind, Republican means Rick Santorum, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry and Herman Cain.

For 75% of the republicans (AT LEAST), this is what they WANT in their President.   Seriously.