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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: anabolichalo on August 02, 2013, 09:46:51 AM
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he was natural and got on 300mg test some 5 weeks ago
zero gains
he even increased to 450mg last week
zero gains, even regression he said
wtf,
poor responder?
fake batch of steroids?
he said my gains are placebo or imaginary, he says he doesnt see anything bigger about me ernestly
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What does your gf say?
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Now that you bought the gear, stop staring at it and inject it. Things will change.
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What does your gf say?
i told her i'm natural
she said i believe you, if your conscience is clean
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i told her i'm natural
she said i believe you, if your conscience is clean
lmao
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in my opinion 300mgs is not that must testosterone to be injecting a week. Lets say it was some what under dosed. It could have been just enough to replace his natural testosterone. And also down regulate his testosterone levels to a some what lower level than he is used to. And depending on the ester he injected when he raised it to 450 the level's still wouldn't be built up in his blood enough to get to a stable level where that extra dosage would be increasing size after just one week.
Me personally I would never waste my time doing under 500 mgs a week. Even 500 mgs a week to me of testosterone is something I wouldn't do unless it was combined with other steroids. I'm not a steroid junkie either I don't have a high tolerance at all. In my opinion most ugls are going to be under dosed to some degree. So I would make up for that by injecting a higher dosage right off the bat. Testosterone doesn't have to many side effects that cant be controlled either. Next cycle of testosterone I do im starting out at at least 700 mgs a week. I feel like if they recommend 500 mgs a week to a 18 year old. A actual man or some one in there 20's should be doing more. Lol but maybe I am just crazy but ive never regretted it. And I know its better to stick to one dosage instead of bumping it up continuously and having your hormones go crazy trying to stabilize themselves!
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in my opinion 300mgs is not that must testosterone to be injecting a week. Lets say it was some what under dosed. It could have been just enough to replace his natural testosterone. And also down regulate his testosterone levels to a some what lower level than he is used to. And depending on the ester he injected when he raised it to 450 the level's still wouldn't be built up in his blood enough to get to a stable level where that extra dosage would be increasing size after just one week.
Me personally I would never waste my time doing under 500 mgs a week. Even 500 mgs a week to me of testosterone is something I wouldn't do unless it was combined with other steroids. I'm not a steroid junkie either I don't have a high tolerance at all. In my opinion most ugls are going to be under dosed to some degree. So I would make up for that by injecting a higher dosage right off the bat. Testosterone doesn't have to many side effects that cant be controlled either. Next cycle of testosterone I do im starting out at at least 700 mgs a week. I feel like if they recommend 500 mgs a week to a 18 year old. A actual man or some one in there 20's should be doing more. Lol but maybe I am just crazy but ive never regretted it. And I know its better to stick to one dosage instead of bumping it up continuously and having your hormones go crazy trying to stabilize themselves!
can finasteride still control DHT conversion at dosages up to 500-700mg?
you reckon?
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in my opinion 300mgs is not that must testosterone to be injecting a week. Lets say it was some what under dosed. It could have been just enough to replace his natural testosterone. And also down regulate his testosterone levels to a some what lower level than he is used to. And depending on the ester he injected when he raised it to 450 the level's still wouldn't be built up in his blood enough to get to a stable level where that extra dosage would be increasing size after just one week.
Me personally I would never waste my time doing under 500 mgs a week. Even 500 mgs a week to me of testosterone is something I wouldn't do unless it was combined with other steroids. I'm not a steroid junkie either I don't have a high tolerance at all. In my opinion most ugls are going to be under dosed to some degree. So I would make up for that by injecting a higher dosage right off the bat. Testosterone doesn't have to many side effects that cant be controlled either. Next cycle of testosterone I do im starting out at at least 700 mgs a week. I feel like if they recommend 500 mgs a week to a 18 year old. A actual man or some one in there 20's should be doing more. Lol but maybe I am just crazy but ive never regretted it. And I know its better to stick to one dosage instead of bumping it up continuously and having your hormones go crazy trying to stabilize themselves!
I dunno... i'd say most UGL's test is spot on, if not 50mg overdosed (200mg being 250 and 250 being 300). it's cheap and we want you to feel it. never wanna hear a customer say "well, I'm on 3cc a week and I think it's ok" and have them only be running 450 (at 150mg/ml underdose)... cutting the dose will bump the profit maybe 300$ on a hundred bottles. $300 is easily made up for in higher volume by producing over-potent product & the resulting positive word-of-mouth from users.
I prefer to keep the same dosage for whatever bodyweight i'm looking to achieve. sometimes it's 250/wk (only when on nothing else whatsoever). sometimes it's 1g. sometimes it's 3g.
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I dunno... i'd say most UGL's test is spot on, if not 50mg overdosed (200mg being 250 and 250 being 300). it's cheap and we want you to feel it. never wanna hear a customer say "well, I'm on 3cc a week and I think it's ok" and have them only be running 450 (at 150mg/ml underdose)... cutting the dose will bump the profit maybe 300$ on a hundred bottles. $300 is easily made up for in higher volume by producing over-potent product & the resulting positive word-of-mouth from users.
I prefer to keep the same dosage for whatever bodyweight i'm looking to achieve. sometimes it's 250/wk (only when on nothing else whatsoever). sometimes it's 1g. sometimes it's 3g.
what dosage to go from 200lbs to 220lbs
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I dunno... i'd say most UGL's test is spot on, if not 50mg overdosed (200mg being 250 and 250 being 300). it's cheap and we want you to feel it. never wanna hear a customer say "well, I'm on 3cc a week and I think it's ok" and have them only be running 450 (at 150mg/ml underdose)... cutting the dose will bump the profit maybe 300$ on a hundred bottles. $300 is easily made up for in higher volume by producing over-potent product & the resulting positive word-of-mouth from users.
I prefer to keep the same dosage for whatever bodyweight i'm looking to achieve. sometimes it's 250/wk (only when on nothing else whatsoever). sometimes it's 1g. sometimes it's 3g.
x2 I doubt a UG skimps on their test. Other compounds I have absoluletely no doubt and I'm pretty sure I was victim to it
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what dosage to go from 200lbs to 220lbs
depends on the person, brother. gotta figure that out for yourself. You should be able to maintain 220 with hrt doses.. usually. also depends on what bodyfat and kcal intake you wanna be at at 220. 220 and 5% and 220 at 12% different.
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x2 I doubt a UG skimps on their test. Other compounds I have absoluletely no doubt and I'm pretty sure I was victim to it
I wish this was true, but the last batch of test I used from a UG lab ended up being 100% bunk. If you don't gain a single lb in a month on almost a gram of test, you're just injecting cotton seed oil.
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what dosage to go from 200lbs to 220lbs
to get to 220 from 200? id say run 500-700mg of good test (human grade if possible). have an AI like aromasin on hand, deal with that water and estrogen before it gets out of control. 25mg EOD of the aromasin should have you covered, if not... make it 25mg ed lol if that dont work.. its bunk probably
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to get to 220 from 200? id say run 500-700mg of good test (human grade if possible). have an AI like aromasin on hand, deal with that water and estrogen before it gets out of control. 25mg EOD of the aromasin should have you covered, if not... make it 25mg ed lol if that dont work.. its bunk probably
aromasin needs to be taken every day. whether it's 12.5mg/day or 25.. it's gotta be every day. adex you can get away with taking every couple days.
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I wish this was true, but the last batch of test I used from a UG lab ended up being 100% bunk. If you don't gain a single lb in a month on almost a gram of test, you're just injecting cotton seed oil.
there are guys who put out garbage. MLG in particular. I had guys (ex ifbb pro included) thinking I ripped them off.. many emails back and forth to mlg with a 'so what' reply. never again move a 3rd partys products. swear his test was maybe 50mg/ml and tren was probably 30... absolute crap.
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One interesting thing about testosterone's to is if they do under dose it unless you get a blood test that says specific testosterone ratio's in your blood you really can't tell if its under dosed. Because if It says above 1500 and doesn't say how much above it your levels are. Even 200 to 300 mgs a week of testosterone could raise your levels above 1500. So if some one is running a gram of gear and it says above 1500 it is hard to tell what is really going on.
I just see a lot of threads talking about under dosed testosterone on forums more so than any other steroid. But this could be related to the fact that testosterone is the drug that is recommended for a beginner. So a beginner is a easy target to rip off. Or a beginner is easily capable of doing a number of things to make it so he doesn't get gains like he should from a legit product. Also Ive noticed the labs that are openly advertised are usually where beginners are going to get their products from and those places usually have control over any review that is posted that is bad and is deleted immediately. I guess people just got to pay their dues tell they can meet a quality source.
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My first run with 300mg (HG) just made me lean out quite a bit and maybe add a tad bit of strength. Body fat loss was the most notable for sure. Didn't notice shit for muscle gain. Such is life with subpar bb genetics. :'(
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aromasin needs to be taken every day. whether it's 12.5mg/day or 25.. it's gotta be every day. adex you can get away with taking every couple days.
nope. not true. while the half life of aromasin is only 9 or so hours, aromasin works by destroying the aromatase inhibitors in your blood stream. they arent replenished fully for 72 hours, which means while the aromasin is technically out of your system in 9 hours or so, the effects it caused on your body are still there for up to 72 hours.
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nope. not true. while the half life of aromasin is only 9 or so hours, aromasin works by destroying the aromatase inhibitors in your blood stream. they arent replenished fully for 72 hours, which means while the aromasin is technically out of your system in 9 hours or so, the effects it caused on your body are still there for up to 72 hours.
yea, but how often are they replenished?
wait... why would I want to destry the aromatase inhibitors? Inhibition of the enzyme is what I want. I assume that was a typo.
the aromatase enzyme isn't replenished for 72hrs? I can see that maybe for a woman, who the drug is mostly researched on... but for a man using high doses of aromatizing steroids, I wouldn't trust it. especially since the peak inhibition was between 9-12hrs with a steady decline through 24hrs.
i'll still be taking my aromasin daily.. even at a smaller dosage. easier on lipids than adex.
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yea, but how often are they replenished?
wait... why would I want to destry the aromatase inhibitors? Inhibition of the enzyme is what I want. I assume that was a typo.
the aromatase enzyme isn't replenished for 72hrs? I can see that maybe for a woman, who the drug is mostly researched on... but for a man using high doses of aromatizing steroids, I wouldn't trust it. especially since the peak inhibition was between 9-12hrs with a steady decline through 24hrs.
i'll still be taking my aromasin daily.. even at a smaller dosage. easier on lipids than adex.
aromasin is a suicidal AI, it doesnt just inhibit the aromataze enzymes it destroys them. your body replenishes these fully after about 72 hours. AAS use has nothign to do with how fast or slow the enzymes come back- thats up to your body. i suspect if you are on HGH though that they come back faster. thats broscience and speculation though
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aromasin is a suicidal AI, it doesnt just inhibit the aromataze enzymes it destroys them. your body replenishes these fully after about 72 hours. AAS use has nothign to do with how fast or slow the enzymes come back- thats up to your body. i suspect if you are on HGH though that they come back faster. thats broscience and speculation though
still... better safe than sorry, i'd still take a smaller dose of asin ED opposed to a 25mg dose EOD.
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still... better safe than sorry, i'd still take a smaller dose of asin ED opposed to a 25mg dose EOD.
oh certainly! id do the same. id fuckin forget to take it otherwise. hell id forget even if i took it ED! ;D
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oh certainly! id do the same. id fuckin forget to take it otherwise. hell id forget even if i took it ED! ;D
which is why I use adex only a couple times a week. lol
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which is why I use adex only a couple times a week. lol
Haha yeah I can't even remember to take orals so I just don't use them. But for some reason I always remember to pin.
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x2 I doubt a UG skimps on their test. Other compounds I have absoluletely no doubt and I'm pretty sure I was victim to it
They prob just put test in everything if you put on 10lbs, what are you gonna do bitch? :D
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They prob just put test in everything if you put on 10lbs, what are you gonna do bitch? :D
I's say that most UG compounds like Deca, EQ, Primo etc is just watered down test. Who can tell if the 300mg/ml EQ they're using is really 100mg/ml test. Or the 200mg/ml primo is really 50mg/ml test etc. test powder is so cheap so you can make so much more money substituting it & who's going to know or complain.
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i wanted to up the dose
but yesterday it seemed like the gear really kicked in again full force after about 8 weeks 300mg
i was benching 100kg x 12 with ease ( 9reps last week, really fucking hard reps for that matter)
so i dont think i need to up it yet, the dose
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i wanted to up the dose
but yesterday it seemed like the gear really kicked in again full force after about 8 weeks 300mg
i was benching 100kg x 12 with ease ( 9reps last week, really fucking hard reps for that matter)
so i dont think i need to up it yet, the dose
drop a few hundred bucks and run 4cc enan and 2cc tren Monday wed and Friday ;) throw in 50 dbol and 100 drol/day too ;) save money on food by drinking 3 scoops of protein breakfast, pre, post, and at bed with peanut butter during the day brother ;D give an honest go.. u know you want to :)
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drop a few hundred bucks and run 4cc enan and 2cc tren Monday wed and Friday ;) throw in 50 dbol and 100 drol/day too ;) save money on food by drinking 3 scoops of protein breakfast, pre, post, and at bed with peanut butter during the day brother ;D give an honest go.. u know you want to :)
Lol I always hear a voice in the back of my head telling me things like that when I think about upping the dosage ha ha ha ha.
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drop a few hundred bucks and run 4cc enan and 2cc tren Monday wed and Friday ;) throw in 50 dbol and 100 drol/day too ;) save money on food by drinking 3 scoops of protein breakfast, pre, post, and at bed with peanut butter during the day brother ;D give an honest go.. u know you want to :)
to get big you need a lot of food as well as a lot of drugs
bfg said so
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i wanted to up the dose
but yesterday it seemed like the gear really kicked in again full force after about 8 weeks 300mg
i was benching 100kg x 12 with ease ( 9reps last week, really fucking hard reps for that matter)
so i dont think i need to up it yet, the dose
Just like it takes a long time to reach your natural limit, it will take a long time to reach your "new natural" 300mg per week limit.
Just like when you are natural there are periods where you plateau and periods where you suddenly start making gains again.
e.g. if you natural lean max bodyweight is 80kg, on 300mg you new limit might be 90kg lean and it may take a few years to get there with most of the gains coming in the first year just like what happens when natural.
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Just like it takes a long time to reach your natural limit, it will take a long time to reach your "new natural" 300mg per week limit.
Just like when you are natural there are periods where you plateau and periods where you suddenly start making gains again.
e.g. if you natural lean max bodyweight is 80kg, on 300mg you new limit might be 90kg lean and it may take a few years to get there with most of the gains coming in the first year just like what happens when natural.
but the clock is ticking, getting old fast
so why waste time
why not up the dose right now?
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but the clock is ticking, getting old fast
so why waste time
why not up the dose right now?
How big do you honestly want to be? The last pic i saw of you on the G&O board your looked good for what you are on.
Being huge isn't all that great; i have been 250-260 in decent shape and i honestly feel that my best look is today at 215. I'm not running much more than you are.
Just take your time and enjoy the ride, you aren't very old.
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How big do you honestly want to be? The last pic i saw of you on the G&O board your looked good for what you are on.
Being huge isn't all that great; i have been 250-260 in decent shape and i honestly feel that my best look is today at 215. I'm not running much more than you are.
Just take your time and enjoy the ride, you aren't very old.
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i dont really understand the "weight" thing in bbing
so i will just explain it in looks
i'd like to have arms the size of galeniko
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i dont really understand the "weight" thing in bbing
so i will just explain it in looks
i'd like to have arms the size of galeniko
bbing is about progression ... not regression.
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bbing is about progression ... not regression.
his armsare 48 cm shredded
mine are 42 cm lean
i'd call it progression to get to hislevel
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i'd like to have arms the size of galeniko
A lot of that part is genetic, his arms look better than mine from the side and have a great horseshoe look. Mine have a thicker look, but my delts overpower them so in a fair comparison his look much better then mine.
Personally, i would just keep focused on what you're doing and see where you stand in another 6-8 months. Gals arms look very good, but remember there is that illusion factor due to how lean he is.
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