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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: anabolichalo on August 16, 2013, 02:20:07 PM
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or NIGHT AND DAY difference?
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Depends...
(thats a serious response BTW.)
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I would stay away from UGL products they are way to hit and miss and alot of the labs are just out for cash. There are very few UGL's that might be OK to use. The thing with a UGL is you never know why is behind the scene with human grade like Watson you know it is made by a real chemist in a huge GMP/FDA approved Lab,plus the raw materials are going to be consistently high grade. The only problem is it is hard to get bulk amounts of watson Test depot so if you are trying to go pro you will probably have to use UGL gear somewhere along the line plus you are going to have to buy products like Tren and masteron from a UGL anyway. When buying from a UGL you just have to look for a source that has been around for awhile and has alot of positive feedback from members of the BB community that can be trusted.
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Yes
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Why r you asking? What have you been using this whole time dude? Clinics rarely hand out 300mg/wk, rarely, and that's what your on. Seeing results? If yes, then call it good. No, PIP or infection, then it's good
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Why r you asking? What have you been using this whole time dude? Clinics rarely hand out 300mg/wk, rarely, and that's what your on. Seeing results? If yes, then call it good. No, PIP or infection, then it's good
my friend says he sees no results in me
and that i am imagining results because placebo
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my friend says he sees no results in me
and that i am imagining results because placebo
What you have is a image problem. You're so insecure w/ your body no amount muscle will change your perception of you. You need to get off the roids and see a therapist.
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What you have is a image problem. You're so insecure w/ your body no amount muscle will change your perception of you. You need to get off the roids and see a therapist.
Lol that's fucked up! ;D
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What you have is a image problem. You're so insecure w/ your body no amount muscle will change your perception of you. You need to get off the roids and see a therapist.
you are a sheep
fuck off
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Lol that's fucked up! ;D
I'm not trying to be. I just see a very insecure kid that seems easily persuaded.
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you are a sheep
fuck off
Take it how you want it.
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if it's a quality ugl there'll be little difference.
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A mg is a mg, no matter what, would 40% alcohol from some cheap drink cause you more intoxication then some expensive cognac? no
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A mg is a mg, no matter what, would 40% alcohol from some cheap drink cause you more intoxication then some expensive cognac? no
I agree.
I have mates who have had powder seized and tested in Australia with purity in the high 90"s.
In regards to mg vs mg I think they are very similar.
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Everything from china has lead in it,and BB inject it ???. Have fun with alltimers when your 65
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Wouldn't pharmaceutical requirements demand a higher and more vigorous testing process, ultimately yielding a higher purity Testosterone?
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Wouldn't pharmaceutical requirements demand a higher and more vigorous testing process, ultimately yielding a higher purity Testosterone?
Yes. If you get a real Testosterone product like watson Test Depot-200mg/ml from a pharmacy it is going to have at least 190mg/per ml possibly 210mg/ml. The FDA gives a 10% margin of error and that is it! Pharma companys have to be careful! If a product were to get tested and it was under 190mg/per ml or over 210mg/per ml the FDA will have that batch recalled and then they will tour the plant and possibly shut the plant down if they see something that needs to be upgraded(equipment) or there are cleanliness issues. I think most people would be more comfortable taking a shot of gear that was made by a chemist out of a real FDA/GMP certified lab rather then taking a shot from some gear made out of somebodys dirrty kitchen
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it depends.
very easy solution ::)
have it tested.
i seen some chefs of ugls whom i wouldnt trust making me a sandwich
Bump this! It cracks me up when you see a so called big UGL get busted and they show the picture of the so called chemist who turns out to be a mid 20's white trash kid who has shit for muscles and looks like he maybe made it through 6th grade.
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Everything from china has lead in it,and BB inject it ???. Have fun with alltimers when your 65
hahaha hell and i thought this memory loss was from all the mdma i did in my 30's. :D
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Wouldn't pharmaceutical requirements demand a higher and more vigorous testing process, ultimately yielding a higher purity Testosterone?
the purity of test would be the result of the source, some are under but that is another argument altogether, like my alcohol analogy, if a company puts 35 % and claims 40, well then shame on them.
Legit powders yield the same results as pharm grade, if the powder is 80% then someone is scheming 20% off the top, :-\ has nothing to do with it being pharm grade or not
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Everybody here is pretty much correct. I am able to get Watson test c but occasionally I get UG stuff.
If all things are equal-price, availability, ect. Going w/ pharm grade is a no brainer. However, out of all the AAS. I'd have to say that test is the least problematic steroid on the market because it's so readily available and relatively cheap.
I have more confidence in UG test than any other compound by far.
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Everybody here is pretty much correct. I am able to get Watson test c but occasionally I get UG stuff.
If all things are equal-price, availability, ect. Going w/ pharm grade is a no brainer. However, out of all the AAS. I'd have to say that test is the least problematic steroid on the market because it's so readily available and relatively cheap.
I have more confidence in UG test than any other compound by far.
test, eq and tren are never fake, well 99% of the time. Primobolan is rarely ever Primo, anavar is either something else or it is under dose.
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test, eq and tren are never fake, well 99% of the time. Primobolan is rarely ever Primo, anavar is either something else or it is under dose.
I would agree. I think that's a a perfect assesment. I'd throw tbol in the who the fuck knows category as well.
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depends on the UG.
i can do a shot of my test cyp one week, and the next week do a shot of phizer test cyp and not notice a difference.
now, i have in the past used ugls that were absolute crap. 200mg of my phizer cyp felt better than 600mg of the other guys... actually, i can say that about 2 online ugl's as well as 2 local ug cooks (who quickly burned out due to their product being shit).
you pay a premium for hG gear... and if you're using LARGE doses, that cost adds up quick.
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Everything from china has lead in it,and BB inject it ???. Have fun with alltimers when your 65
FUCK
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FUCK
Oh fuck, you bought that line?, pure fucken bro science balony.
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Oh fuck, you bought that line?, pure fucken bro science balony.
i'm easily scared admittedly
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the thing is with my watson test e from the pharmacy is i dont have to worry about it being legit or sterile and i know it is dosed correctly
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the thing is with my watson test e from the pharmacy is i dont have to worry about it being legit or sterile and i know it is dosed correctly
that's all Kool & the Gang when you're running 200 every 1 or 2 weeks and you get a script for a bottle every 3-6 months, but when you're running a bit more... like a gram or two, or three... HG gets expensive... that's 4-12 amps of primotestin or durateston or testoviron per week... even at *good* prices of $7/amp that's still $28-84/wk... whereas you can get 300/ml 10ml of ug for $50.
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Get it from a pharmacy or make your own, preferably after getting an assay on the powder. One batch of Chinese tren I got had weed killer, tca acid, methamphetamine, DMSO and a host of other shit in it. Needless to say I don't deal with that factory anymore. But the UGs don't give a shit about that stuff
No way would I inject something made in a filthy garage by a room temperature iq "bro" into my body, they make up for a lack of sterility with way too much ba
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Get it from a pharmacy or make your own, preferably after getting an assay on the powder. One batch of Chinese tren I got had weed killer, tca acid, methamphetamine, DMSO and a host of other shit in it. Needless to say I don't deal with that factory anymore. But the UGs don't give a shit about that stuff
No way would I inject something made in a filthy garage by a room temperature iq "bro" into my body, they make up for a lack of sterility with way too much ba
too much BA and it's painfull as hell, and you won't have return customers or customers spreading word of mouth... same if it's dirty. if somehow a batch/lot # gets contaminated and the inj's hurt, a UG interested in long term income will exchange the gear for a different batch.
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that's all Kool & the Gang when you're running 200 every 1 or 2 weeks and you get a script for a bottle every 3-6 months, but when you're running a bit more... like a gram or two, or three... HG gets expensive... that's 4-12 amps of primotestin or durateston or testoviron per week... even at *good* prices of $7/amp that's still $28-84/wk... whereas you can get 300/ml 10ml of ug for $50.
All personal stash -I rather pay more and get human grade. a bottle every 3-6 months? Most doctors RX a 10ml multi-dose vial every 2 months. You can find premium human grade gear for as low as 1-2$ a amp if you buy it in bulk. I got a bunch of human grade gear from alpha-pharma Test esters/sustanon were no more then 1.50$ and the most expensive product was the parabolon wich was only 4$ a amp in bulk, german remedies Testovirons wich are gold and they were a few bucks a amp. The most was the Tren from a top UGL but those are 10ml and still cheap when bought in bulk.
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many times I've been tempted to take pics like that.. many many times. lol. but fear of being surrounded by 30 5-0's in a Burger King parking lot and having my phone seized and gone through makes me think better of it. lol... fuck, I checked my gmail on an SIII and couldn't freakin log out and ended up soakin it in acid and tossin it. :-\
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many times I've been tempted to take pics like that.. many many times. lol. but fear of being surrounded by 30 5-0's in a Burger King parking lot and having my phone seized and gone through makes me think better of it. lol... fuck, I checked my gmail on an SIII and couldn't freakin log out and ended up soakin it in acid and tossin it. :-\
LOL- It is just personal. You have to buy in bulk to get those prices I am talking about. But 50$ for a 10ml vial of good UGL is still pricey, you can get Top notch human grade gear for 1$-2$ a vial. In that picture it is all mainly alpha-pharma gear and german remedies Testovirons as well as infar organon sust (all amps are blistered sealed). they are all 100% authentic. Gear is cheap if you buy it in bulk. I also have in that pic a bunch of 10ml vials of tren from a Top UGL. They are hartd to see as I didn;t want the name of the lab showing. If it was not personal I wouldn't show it. That picture is from last year.
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A mg is a mg, no matter what, would 40% alcohol from some cheap drink cause you more intoxication then some expensive cognac? no
This ^^
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If you choose to go ug just do your homework. Be thorough, check if the supplier has a good rep, and once you find a good source. Stick w/ it, be loyal, and keep your mouth shut.
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If you choose to go ug just do your homework. Be thorough, check if the supplier has a good rep, and once you find a good source. Stick w/ it, be loyal, and keep your mouth shut.
great advice, ;)LOL- It is just personal. You have to buy in bulk to get those prices I am talking about. But 50$ for a 10ml vial of good UGL is still pricey, you can get Top notch human grade gear for 1$-2$ a vial. In that picture it is all mainly alpha-pharma gear and german remedies Testovirons as well as infar organon sust (all amps are blistered sealed). they are all 100% authentic. Gear is cheap if you buy it in bulk. I also have in that pic a bunch of 10ml vials of tren from a Top UGL. They are hartd to see as I didn;t want the name of the lab showing. If it was not personal I wouldn't show it. That picture is from last year.
WW don't fuck around :o :o
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A sure would love those trenex amps you have there WW
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that's all Kool & the Gang when you're running 200 every 1 or 2 weeks and you get a script for a bottle every 3-6 months, but when you're running a bit more... like a gram or two, or three... HG gets expensive... that's 4-12 amps of primotestin or durateston or testoviron per week... even at *good* prices of $7/amp that's still $28-84/wk... whereas you can get 300/ml 10ml of ug for $50.
I get what you are saying. I run 200mg wk. and cycle in tren e at 175 mg wk ( tren being ugl does hurt a little and cause redness on small muscles) pharma test is painless. I get a five ml a month for 10 bucks. I'm not competing nor do I desire too. Is that ugl test really 300mg ml? Just saying
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To answer the op question, no
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All personal stash -I rather pay more and get human grade. a bottle every 3-6 months? Most doctors RX a 10ml multi-dose vial every 2 months. You can find premium human grade gear for as low as 1-2$ a amp if you buy it in bulk. I got a bunch of human grade gear from alpha-pharma Test esters/sustanon were no more then 1.50$ and the most expensive product was the parabolon wich was only 4$ a amp in bulk, german remedies Testovirons wich are gold and they were a few bucks a amp. The most was the Tren from a top UGL but those are 10ml and still cheap when bought in bulk.
Those pics are amazing.
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If you choose to go ug just do your homework. Be thorough, check if the supplier has a good rep, and once you find a good source. Stick w/ it, be loyal, and keep your mouth shut.
this x2.
if you find a local guy.. don't give his number out or try to get him to meet your "friends". lol.
at most, tell your dude you gotta buddy who wants some, and your dude will most likely give you a couple % break so you can make a few bucks.
and if you have what you suspect as a 'bad batch'.. it's giving painfull injections, or it's 'not as strong'. let him know.
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A sure would love those trenex amps you have there WW
I bet you do ;)
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Those Oxys can definitely fuck some lives up. Been known to make my bodybuilding stop dead in the tracks don't really get why it's shown with a nice display of gear.
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9/11 really fucked it all up for everyone.
i miss the days of open borders and care free customs.
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Those Oxys can definitely fuck some lives up. Been known to make my bodybuilding stop dead in the tracks don't really get why it's shown with a nice display of gear.
oxys are more valuable then gold and they can destroy lives or improve lives just depends on who is using them and if they are getting them prescribed legally. You dont think pros use oxys and benzos? They used to use alot of nubain now it is oxys and benzos. The key is to keep the dose very minimal.
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oxys are more valuable then gold and they can destroy lives or improve lives just depends on who is using them and if they are getting them prescribed legally. You dont think pros use oxys and benzos? They used to use alot of nubain now it is oxys and benzos. The key is to keep the dose very minimal.
i use to read getbig
"anadrol and nubain, a hell of a combination" slogans
but what are oxies benzies and nubains????
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oxys are more valuable then gold and they can destroy lives or improve lives just depends on who is using them and if they are getting them prescribed legally. You dont think pros use oxys and benzos? They used to use alot of nubain now it is oxys and benzos. The key is to keep the dose very minimal.
Seriously? Come on that's the most ridiculous misinformation ever. Oxys are pharmaceutical heroin. Do I think pros use Oxys and benzos, I know some do but that doesn't mean they're not drug addicts, and I'm not talking steroid addicts. Put it this way someone I know who turned pro, know personally, could have turned pro in 2010 but instead chose to do Oxys. He took 2nd instead of first. He was a fucking wreck and almost killed himself. The next year he turned pro with a clear mind because he go sober. Promoting drugs is disgusting. I'm all for gear and you do say some rational stuff but this is not one of those things. And if those were prescribed legally.. Where's the sticker? Just saying I've never seen anyone legally have two pharmacy bottle of oc. Making light of pharm heroin isn't going to get anyone anywhere except rehab.
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Good post. I used to fuck with benzos (never oxy) and thought it was cool til I almost killedmyself and possibly other people. I had to have two days filled in for me by peers bc I had no recollection whatsoever. Done with that forever.
Bodybuilding and narcotics do not mix and never have.
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Seriously? Come on that's the most ridiculous misinformation ever. Oxys are pharmaceutical heroin. Do I think pros use Oxys and benzos, I know some do but that doesn't mean they're not drug addicts, and I'm not talking steroid addicts. Put it this way someone I know who turned pro, know personally, could have turned pro in 2010 but instead chose to do Oxys. He took 2nd instead of first. He was a fucking wreck and almost killed himself. The next year he turned pro with a clear mind because he go sober. Promoting drugs is disgusting. I'm all for gear and you do say some rational stuff but this is not one of those things. And if those were prescribed legally.. Where's the sticker? Just saying I've never seen anyone legally have two pharmacy bottle of oc. Making light of pharm heroin isn't going to get anyone anywhere except rehab.
eh... no.
oxy's are Oxycodone. Oxycodone is pharmaceutical oxycodone.
heroin is diacetylmorphine.
two very different drugs.
that's like saying Ephederine is "pharmaceutical speed", or valium is "pharmaceutical booze".
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eh... no.
oxy's are Oxycodone. Oxycodone is pharmaceutical oxycodone.
heroin is diacetylmorphine.
two very different drugs.
that's like saying Ephederine is "pharmaceutical speed", or valium is "pharmaceutical booze".
Eh no. You're wrong. Those particular pills are broken down filtered and turned into an injectable form by many drug addicts. The effects are similar in nature to heroin. Just because it's not the same exact molecular structure doesn't mean it doesn't effect your brain in the same exact way. Looking up shit on Wikipedia doesn't make you an expert
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eh... no.
oxy's are Oxycodone. Oxycodone is pharmaceutical oxycodone.
heroin is diacetylmorphine.
two very different drugs.
that's like saying Ephederine is "pharmaceutical speed", or valium is "pharmaceutical booze".
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hillbilly%20heroin
Just because no one should be ignorant towards drugs. Like I said before I don know why it was posted anyway as it has zero to do with the topic at hand seems like someone got such a hardon from it they just had to post a pic of it.
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Eh no. You're wrong. Those particular pills are broken down filtered and turned into an injectable form by many drug addicts. The effects are similar in nature to heroin. Just because it's not the same exact molecular structure doesn't mean it doesn't effect your brain in the same exact way. Looking up shit on Wikipedia doesn't make you an expert
looking up shit on Wikipedia? how about some common sense, moron.
"similar in nature to heroin" is like saying coffee is similar in nature to meth. I mean, just because it's not the same exact molecular structure doesn't mean it's NOT meth, right? (using your 'logic'... were you home-schooled or something?)
I don't care if the pills ARE broken down and shot.. that doesn't make it freakin heroin. it makes it OXYCODONE. same as Percocet or Tylox or whatever else oxycodone comes in.
you're saying Oxycodone effects the brain the same way heroin does? Ok, genius... tell me how Codeine effects the brain... or morphine... or hydrocodone... by your 'logic' those must all be heroin as well.
welcome to getbig. you should probably refrain from talking out of your ass.
speaking of "Wikipedia"... http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/talk-out-of-(one's)-ass
Definition of: "Talk out of (one's) ass"
Talk out of (one's) ass
Verb - intransitive
Definition; To talk about a subject without knowledge.
-- hope this helps. Maybe you should not talk about things you know very little about.
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ahahahha, yes.
i'll crush some ephedrine tablets and smoke that shit just like crystal. They are very similar in nature, bro.
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conversing with you losers is similar to having a conversation with a retard. oh wait.. you are handicapped you have high post counts on getbig. do i have to qualify myself to you and tell you i got hooked on percocet (oxycodone) when i was 14? and that when i didnt have oxycodone i took codeine or hydrocodone? because when you are "dopesick" any opiate will ease it whether you are taking any of the above, morphine sulfate, hydromorphone, or any opiate period including heroin. the high street price of those little blue pills which you are making seem so innocent is usually around a dollar a milligram. which makes heroin appealing when one or two or ten stops working for you. those pills are not a joke and either is drug addiction. since youre such a know it all expert on them keep fucking around with them and when youre on your knees crying and begging to get clean you can pm me and ill send you a list of rehabs. "welcome to getbig" thanks but ill pass. i love bodybuilding and ill continue on my path while you continue on the path to selling your soul for drugs. you really think its that different go into a local detox and ask the 20 year olds how they got hooked on heroin. this forum is a fucking joke.
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conversing with you losers is similar to having a conversation with a retard. oh wait.. you are handicapped you have high post counts on getbig. do i have to qualify myself to you and tell you i got hooked on percocet (oxycodone) when i was 14? and that when i didnt have oxycodone i took codeine or hydrocodone? because when you are "dopesick" any opiate will ease it whether you are taking any of the above, morphine sulfate, hydromorphone, or any opiate period including heroin. the high street price of those little blue pills which you are making seem so innocent is usually around a dollar a milligram. which makes heroin appealing when one or two or ten stops working for you. those pills are not a joke and either is drug addiction. since youre such a know it all expert on them keep fucking around with them and when youre on your knees crying and begging to get clean you can pm me and ill send you a list of rehabs. "welcome to getbig" thanks but ill pass. i love bodybuilding and ill continue on my path while you continue on the path to selling your soul for drugs. you really think its that different go into a local detox and ask the 20 year olds how they got hooked on heroin. this forum is a fucking joke.
good job at being an uninformed junkie. calling others 'expert's when you were a junkie at 14? lol that's awesome... keep it up.
you think you're the only one who had a problem with opiates?
I shot a bottle and a half-two bottles of nubain a day dipshit & been off for over 10 years, so I might know a lil about what i'm talking about.
back to your 'pharmaceutical heroin'.. lol.... you know what 'pharmaceutical heroin' is? it's HEROIN!... like saying Valium is 'pharmaceutical xanax'.
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good job at being an uninformed junkie. calling others 'expert's when you were a junkie at 14? lol that's awesome... keep it up.
you think you're the only one who had a problem with opiates?
I shot a bottle and a half-two bottles of nubain a day dipshit & been off for over 10 years, so I might know a lil about what i'm talking about.
back to your 'pharmaceutical heroin'.. lol.... you know what 'pharmaceutical heroin' is? it's HEROIN!... like saying Valium is 'pharmaceutical xanax'.
:o :o
wow bro, congrats, 10 years off that shit, you are a warrior, I have mad respect for someone who can clean up.
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good job at being an uninformed junkie. calling others 'expert's when you were a junkie at 14? lol that's awesome... keep it up.
you think you're the only one who had a problem with opiates?
I shot a bottle and a half-two bottles of nubain a day dipshit & been off for over 10 years, so I might know a lil about what i'm talking about.
back to your 'pharmaceutical heroin'.. lol.... you know what 'pharmaceutical heroin' is? it's HEROIN!... like saying Valium is 'pharmaceutical xanax'.
Congratulations. You sound more like a miserable fuck that has to be right. I got sober when I was 18 years old. Your pathetic attacks against me are just that.. And I think that having fought addiction to Nubian yourself you would have some desire to not see people shown a path that will more than likely destroy their life and any dreams of bodybuilding, but it seems like you're so far up your butt buddy's ass that you don't care about anyone but yourself. However you're not going to run me off a forum by trying to call me names (like a child) as I refuse to take a stance that bodybuilding should include the use of drugs. So you keep this thread going while I will forget about you as I go about my life you brilliant Internet warrior you ::)
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All personal stash -I rather pay more and get human grade. a bottle every 3-6 months? Most doctors RX a 10ml multi-dose vial every 2 months. You can find premium human grade gear for as low as 1-2$ a amp if you buy it in bulk. I got a bunch of human grade gear from alpha-pharma Test esters/sustanon were no more then 1.50$ and the most expensive product was the parabolon wich was only 4$ a amp in bulk, german remedies Testovirons wich are gold and they were a few bucks a amp. The most was the Tren from a top UGL but those are 10ml and still cheap when bought in bulk.
Alpha pharma isn't human grade! That's one thing for sure.
You know the truth about alpha pharma whitewidow, also about the guy/pedophile who 'owns' it. It's an UGL in India, yes it has papers of Indian government. Bought cause of corruption over there.
For the rest of human grade, I'd rather use a few of the best UGL labs with the best chefs in the world. Human grade is often fake. And these few labs I'm talking about are always on point or slightly overdosed.
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Alpha pharma isn't human grade! That's one thing for sure.
You know the truth about alpha pharma whitewidow, also about the guy/pedophile who 'owns' it. It's an UGL in India, yes it has papers of Indian government. Bought cause of corruption over there.
For the rest of human grade, I'd rather use a few of the best UGL labs with the best chefs in the world. Human grade is often fake. And these few labs I'm talking about are always on point or slightly overdosed.
I know it is easy to get it licensed in 3rd world country same deal with balkan pharm but lab tests show alpha-pharma to be right on point and the raw are made with 99% materials It is technically human grade gear and not all of it is alpha-pharma, there is organon infars and trenax.
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Seriously? Come on that's the most ridiculous misinformation ever. Oxys are pharmaceutical heroin. Do I think pros use Oxys and benzos, I know some do but that doesn't mean they're not drug addicts, and I'm not talking steroid addicts. Put it this way someone I know who turned pro, know personally, could have turned pro in 2010 but instead chose to do Oxys. He took 2nd instead of first. He was a fucking wreck and almost killed himself. The next year he turned pro with a clear mind because he go sober. Promoting drugs is disgusting. I'm all for gear and you do say some rational stuff but this is not one of those things. And if those were prescribed legally.. Where's the sticker? Just saying I've never seen anyone legally have two pharmacy bottle of oc. Making light of pharm heroin isn't going to get anyone anywhere except rehab.
Ok smart ass. Look at the first bottle in the first picture with the one bottle sealed and you will see the prescription label wrapped around the bottle. You are right in a sense that oxycodone does stimulate the 2 site in the brain that heroin satifys . I actually think oxycodone works better then most heroin. The thing you do not understand is you cannot get prescribed oxycodone or oxycontin unless you have a MRI that shows you are in need of pain medication. You have to understand some people need oxycodone to live a quality life. not everybody is in 100% condtion. I have degenerative disc disease and I couldn't even get up if it was not for oxycodone, well I guess I could but it is very painfull to workout when your discs in your back are worn to shit.
If you knew alot about bodybuilding you would know what pro bodybuilders use daily and in the late 80's and 90's alot of top bodybuilders used nubain this day and age more use oxycodone but the biggest drug abused are benzos and they are just used for a sleep aid as it takes away alot of the Tren side effects and also has muscle relaxant propertys. No oxys are not something you wan't to use if you don't need them.I am not promoting the use of oxycodone it is just soemthing I use after my post workout meal. I never said "oxycodone is so great you all should start using it it will make you gain like crazy" I never said anything like that. I didn't say anything about it at all.
I would strongly advise anybody who does not have any pain issues not to use oxycodone and if they do have pain issues get a mRI and talk to a doctor before they do use them. I never promoted the use of oxycodone and from your voice you sound like somebody who has used oxycodone without a prescription and got yourself in trouble.
You are correct though oxycodone can be big trouble if you get out of hand with them. they are a medication that is like gold though literally they are like little pieces of gold they are so valuable to people who need them. They won't hold you back from going pro because if you get prescribed oxycodone your back or whatever is hurting is going to be fucked beyond repair and that muscle will hinder your gains. if you are talking them if you don;t have pain maybe just some post work-out pain as long as you keep the dose extremly low I don;t think it will get in the way. but i am talking about maybe taking a little bit maybe every few weeks,once you start using it daily even if it is a little bit you are headed for trouble. But pros use oxycodone and that is the truth. I am not arguing with you about how bad they are but don't accuse me of not having a prescription when I get 240 of them legally.
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Congratulations. You sound more like a miserable fuck that has to be right. I got sober when I was 18 years old. Your pathetic attacks against me are just that.. And I think that having fought addiction to Nubian yourself you would have some desire to not see people shown a path that will more than likely destroy their life and any dreams of bodybuilding, but it seems like you're so far up your butt buddy's ass that you don't care about anyone but yourself. However you're not going to run me off a forum by trying to call me names (like a child) as I refuse to take a stance that bodybuilding should include the use of drugs. So you keep this thread going while I will forget about you as I go about my life you brilliant Internet warrior you ::)
i'm not on my soapbox preaching about the perils of rec painkiller use. if a guy on this forum wants to use opiates of any kind, he's gonna do it regardless of what I say about it. you should know from rehab a little something about 'taking your own inventory'.... if somebody is using 'oxy' or whatever, eventually they'll come to a point when they realize it's time to get off and it's 100% on them to do it because EVERYBODY ELSE HAS THEIR OWN LIVES TO WORRY ABOUT.
I really don't care what you do... but if I see you posting misinformation, such as 'oxy being pharmaceutical heroin', be prepared for me to call you on it, and don't get butt-hurt when I do.
and about bbing shouldn't be about the use of drugs, do you see the Name of the sub-forum you're posting in? "Steroids & Hardcore"??? if you don't wanna talk about drugs, don't come to the forum.
you don't see me going to "Craft-Beer Brewing Enthusiast" Forums and talking about alcoholism.
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wow bro, congrats, 10 years off that shit, you are a warrior, I have mad respect for someone who can clean up.
actually went from nubain to 10mg/ml Torbugesic when Abbott and Astra stopped making nubain and was going through a 100ml bottle a week.
long physical withdrawl & long physiological withdrawl. took me over 6 months before I started to 'turn the corner'.
ironic part is that I was pretty 'straight edge' in high school.. never drank or smoked weed and shunned those that did. a buddy of mine who I hired at my supplement store (who's "application/resume" was to show me all the magazines he was featured in on my shelves. lol.. he was a bber/fitness model) turned me onto the nubain, said it was non-addictive, blah blah blah.... before you know it, I was hooked.
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Good post. I used to fuck with benzos (never oxy) and thought it was cool til I almost killedmyself and possibly other people. I had to have two days filled in for me by peers bc I had no recollection whatsoever. Done with that forever.
Bodybuilding and narcotics do not mix and never have.
how many mgs of xanax were you taking it would take a pretty heavy dose to give you that alzheimers feeling where you wake up and wonder what the fuck happened. small amount of xanax can be helpfull I am talking like 1mg before bed.
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Congratulations. You sound more like a miserable fuck that has to be right. I got sober when I was 18 years old. Your pathetic attacks against me are just that.. And I think that having fought addiction to Nubian yourself you would have some desire to not see people shown a path that will more than likely destroy their life and any dreams of bodybuilding, but it seems like you're so far up your butt buddy's ass that you don't care about anyone but yourself. However you're not going to run me off a forum by trying to call me names (like a child) as I refuse to take a stance that bodybuilding should include the use of drugs. So you keep this thread going while I will forget about you as I go about my life you brilliant Internet warrior you ::)
I have never met a 18 year old who would be able to use oxycodone correctly. No 18 year old should be using any oxycodone or any drugs at all except maybe a little weed here and there and maybe a few beers on special events. You have to be way older to use painkillers responsibly.
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actually went from nubain to 10mg/ml Torbugesic when Abbott and Astra stopped making nubain and was going through a 100ml bottle a week.
long physical withdrawl & long physiological withdrawl. took me over 6 months before I started to 'turn the corner'.
ironic part is that I was pretty 'straight edge' in high school.. never drank or smoked weed and shunned those that did. a buddy of mine who I hired at my supplement store (who's "application/resume" was to show me all the magazines he was featured in on my shelves. lol.. he was a bber/fitness model) turned me onto the nubain, said it was non-addictive, blah blah blah.... before you know it, I was hooked.
big congrats that is a hard drug to beat. But you can verify it was all around the bodybuilding scene back then. Today it is more benzos and oxys as nubain got harder to get.
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Night and day difference!
Bunk made in China or India will NEVER give the same results. Most are underdosed and even if the mg's are right, the purity is different. EQ is a good example: some nobodies with zero knowlegde will tell you that there is no fake in EQ. No fake no, but a lot of bunk. Then those same assholes will tell you that it takes minimum 600mg/w for 4 months "before it kicks in". That's because you got bunk, is that so difficult to understand?
Why discuss about it? Just try! You'll never take UGL test again. Best pharmacy TE today is Bayer-Schering's Androtardyl. Try ONE amp a week and tell me.
If pharmacy gear is double as expensive, buy it because it's three times as effective + you're sure it's sterile.
A last and very important thing : never take advice from dealers!
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Night and day difference!
Bunk made in China or India will NEVER give the same results. Most are underdosed and even if the mg's are right, the purity is different. EQ is a good example: some nobodies with zero knowlegde will tell you that there is no fake in EQ. No fake no, but a lot of bunk. Then those same assholes will tell you that it takes minimum 600mg/w for 4 months "before it kicks in". That's because you got bunk, is that so difficult to understand?
Why discuss about it? Just try! You'll never take UGL test again. Best pharmacy TE today is Bayer-Schering's Androtardyl. Try ONE amp a week and tell me.
If pharmacy gear is double as expensive, buy it because it's three times as effective + you're sure it's sterile.
A last and very important thing : never take advice from dealers!
true a dealer wants to sell their product so why would they tell you the truth? they tell you what you want to hear. I think watson Test depot is the best gear out there. the 5ml vials.
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Night and day difference!
Bunk made in China or India will NEVER give the same results. Most are underdosed and even if the mg's are right, the purity is different. EQ is a good example: some nobodies with zero knowlegde will tell you that there is no fake in EQ. No fake no, but a lot of bunk. Then those same assholes will tell you that it takes minimum 600mg/w for 4 months "before it kicks in". That's because you got bunk, is that so difficult to understand?
Why discuss about it? Just try! You'll never take UGL test again. Best pharmacy TE today is Bayer-Schering's Androtardyl. Try ONE amp a week and tell me.
If pharmacy gear is double as expensive, buy it because it's three times as effective + you're sure it's sterile.
A last and very important thing : never take advice from dealers!
where can i buy pharm grade test?
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where can i buy pharm grade test?
If you live where I live: at the pharmacy!
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If you live where I live: at the pharmacy!
can you mail me some if i send you money?
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can you mail me some if i send you money?
I'm in Africa man! I'm sure you can find pharma test where you live also (not in pharmacy, but I'm sure some can get it). And if you travel, always see what you can legally buy there in pharmacies. Thailand, Turkey, Egypt (don't go there now),...
And in countries as Germany and The Netherlands it's quite easy to get pharma grade stuff on the black market.
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I'm in Africa man! I'm sure you can find pharma test where you live also (not in pharmacy, but I'm sure some can get it). And if you travel, always see what you can legally buy there in pharmacies. Thailand, Turkey, Egypt (don't go there now),...
And in countries as Germany and The Netherlands it's quite easy to get pharma grade stuff on the black market.
if i travel to egypt and buy in pharmacy
how do i know it's not fake
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if i travel to egypt and buy in pharmacy
how do i know it's not fake
First of all make sure you know the good brands. Don't buy bunk from China or India because they sell that also in pharmacy over there. And buy in a good pharmacy (associated with a hospital or so). Try to go for the Organon and Bayer-Schering stuff. Deca, test, primo, proviron etc. In Turkey they have that also and Anapolon on top of it.
That plus some d-bol from Thailand is the base of your arsenal. Only thing you need to find from UGL is tren ace and EQ. Trial and error I would say.
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First of all make sure you know the good brands. Don't buy bunk from China or India because they sell that also in pharmacy over there. And buy in a good pharmacy (associated with a hospital or so). Try to go for the Organon and Bayer-Schering stuff. Deca, test, primo, proviron etc. In Turkey they have that also and Anapolon on top of it.
That plus some d-bol from Thailand is the base of your arsenal. Only thing you need to find from UGL is tren ace and EQ. Trial and error I would say.
is it true pharmacies in touristic settings are notorious for selling bunk steroids to tourists?
how much should i be paying for legit bayer/organon testosterone enanthate in egyptian pharmacy?
i'm planning on going there and leave behind uncertainty of bath tub steroids
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be careful buying steroids in thailand. They sell alot of bunk steroids in thailand pharmacies. You have to know the pharmacist to get the real stuff. The pharmacists know wich ones are real and wich ones are fake. There was a guy I knew who paid the pharmacist on the side just to make sure he got him and his boys real gear. He also had to screw her on the side to keep her happy and keep her giving them the good gear. This was guys who were in the movie business and UFC fighters and bodybuilders who all trained together alot of them like to go to thailand during the off season as it is cheap to live there the beaches are nice and if you can get in with a good pharmacist the gear is ok.
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is it true pharmacies in touristic settings are notorious for selling bunk steroids to tourists?
how much should i be paying for legit bayer/organon testosterone enanthate in egyptian pharmacy?
i'm planning on going there and leave behind uncertainty of bath tub steroids
Yes that's true. That's why I told you to watch out. Prices in Egypt I don't know.
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be careful buying steroids in thailand. They sell alot of bunk steroids in thailand pharmacies. You have to know the pharmacist to get the real stuff. The pharmacists know wich ones are real and wich ones are fake. There was a guy I knew who paid the pharmacist on the side just to make sure he got him and his boys real gear. He also had to screw her on the side to keep her happy and keep her giving them the good gear. This was guys who were in the movie business and UFC fighters and bodybuilders who all trained together alot of them like to go to thailand during the off season as it is cheap to live there the beaches are nice and if you can get in with a good pharmacist the gear is ok.
That's true. That's why I only get my d-bol from there (Thailand is known for it's D-bol, I like Danabol (blue harts)).
In Thailand the'll try to sell you everything in pharmacy, but don't trust it.
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my friend says he sees no results in me
and that i am imagining results because placebo
Show him your nuts. (haha, JK, I'm sure he's already seen them.)
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That's true. That's why I only get my d-bol from there (Thailand is known for it's D-bol, I like Danabol (blue harts)).
In Thailand the'll try to sell you everything in pharmacy, but don't trust it.
who makes the blue hearts? I know they were originbally made by Body Research/March Pharmaceuticals then I think it changed to dranabol but not 100% I know the blue hearts were very potent when Body vresearch made them but Body research got busted ages ago so who is making the blue hearts? I was also under the impression that british dispensarys closed shop and they made good 5mg and 10 anabol tabs. They also made 15mg and 20mg tabs. But like i said my sources said they called it quits.I know they are still being pressed but by the original companys are a companys just knocking them off?
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That's true. That's why I only get my d-bol from there (Thailand is known for it's D-bol, I like Danabol (blue harts)).
In Thailand the'll try to sell you everything in pharmacy, but don't trust it.
fucken amateur hour^^^^ lmao.
Fuck guys whoever is struggling over sources, knows jack shit about the game, I am sorry if this is offensive, but take this guy kohl, saying this is risky and avoid this, it is a fucken joke, he sounds like he just found out a few things and he also sounds like he is 20 years old. lol, what a fucken joke.
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my friend now tried the second brand i suggested to him
he says this is night and day difference
way better
not sure if srs
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UGL test can be as good as deppo test depending on the quality of the base ingredents. Its not hard to make oilbased gear I hav a bud that makes his own gear but he is a chemist and has been doing it a long time and I can tel you from experience that his product is as good as gold. If the people making it use it and there huge its most likely good stuff. All in all if you don't know the source well its a crap shoot. as far as the people calling you insecure go any one on aas is insecure to some level or they would be happy with what they can obtain naturaly so just ignore those pricks
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fucken amateur hour^^^^ lmao.
Fuck guys whoever is struggling over sources, knows jack shit about the game, I am sorry if this is offensive, but take this guy kohl, saying this is risky and avoid this, it is a fucken joke, he sounds like he just found out a few things and he also sounds like he is 20 years old. lol, what a fucken joke.
Lol, cold man.
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Lol, cold man.
WAIT, We all have to start somewhere, I wouldn't make fun of anyone who does not know where to go but I am speaking of guys who come on here giving advice like this loser kohl who fronted like he is deep in the game and knows his shit and then later states that he is struggling with sources.
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Not the same. I agree with whitewidow that Watson Test is the dogs bollocks. 750mg of that felt like 2 grams of ugl test to me. Not to say all ugl test is bunk, but there is no way even under the most stringent ugl conditions that they could even get near what legit pharma quality control is. On a related note, i hate the super excessive use of BA in ugl products. I don't like feeling like i just took a .357 round in my ass cheek every time i take a shot. I understand it lowers microbial contamination, but for fucks sake you don't need as much as some ugls put in.
ESFitness, good on you for getting of the junk you were strung out on. Heroin, nubain, oxycodone, dilaudid, - it's all JUNK!! I have been maintaining a low level of narcotic analgesic for my fucked up back for years now and honestly fear trying to come off completely. Tried a couple times and felt like brushing my teeth with a Glock about a week into it and still felt like shit 2 months later!! Went back on and have not come off since. I admire what you were able to do. As for Eric, dude your level of ignorance is astonishing. I have not seen such moronic statements since the Occupy Wall Street movement interviews.
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maybe i should just get a doctor to prescribe it :(
reading this thread is a rollercoaster of ambivalent sentiments
and i just want simple sure things