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Title: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 05, 2013, 09:43:49 AM
You must acknowledge Goodness for all its meaning. You must accept it as the only way forward; you must give it precedence above all else, while never allowing any other thing to represent itself as such.

You must acknowledge that you have not always acted with Goodness, you must compel yourself to memorize the burden of that feeling, and you must vow to make your greatest attempt to forever reject such action.

To allow this process to resound within every bit of depth in your existence, is to be Salvaged.


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 05, 2013, 01:08:31 PM
Interesting. I placed this post on the Religion Board for discussion, and someone moved it to the G and O.


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 05, 2013, 01:18:31 PM
The post focuses on meaning, rather than words, and the message should be quite clear.


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Man of Steel on September 05, 2013, 01:31:25 PM
JESUS IS LORD AND SAVIOR!!!


(that'll get it moved back to the religion board)


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 05, 2013, 01:34:50 PM
JESUS IS LORD AND SAVIOR!!!


(that'll get it moved back to the religion board)

Why did you just directly claim to me that you don't recall moving it?


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 05, 2013, 01:36:48 PM
..showing some very un-Christian values, here, big guy.

What are you afraid of?


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Man of Steel on September 05, 2013, 01:41:21 PM
Why did you just directly claim to me that you don't recall moving it?

Dude, chill out....I've modified a few things today.  Wanted to make sure we were on the same page.  I didn't remember who created the thread or the thread name so I looked for it on the G&O and found it.   Mods move things, sometimes in error....there's no agenda against "Jack T. Cross".   It was my mistake.....sheesh.  

I've had thousands of posts and threads deleted...it happens.


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 05, 2013, 01:43:57 PM
Funny how meaning has become disregarded in this world.

A world without meaning, will not stand.

I will repost on the RB. If someone has a problem with it, state it in response. Don't try to run away from it.


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Man of Steel on September 05, 2013, 01:44:49 PM
Mods of the G&O, if you would be see so kind as to move this thread back to the Religion Board I would be grateful.  I moved this to the G&O in error and I have a very unsatisified Getbigger who would like to see his thread restored on the Religion Board.

Kindest regards,

MOS


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 05, 2013, 01:46:00 PM
Dude, chill out....I've modified a few things today.  Wanted to make sure we were on the same page.  I didn't remember who created the thread or the thread name so I looked for it on the G&O and found it.   Mods move things, sometimes in error....there's no agenda against "Jack T. Cross".   It was my mistake.....sheesh.  

I've had thousands of posts and threads deleted...it happens.

Never claimed there was an agenda against myself, MOS.

(Rather odd that you'd think a post titled Salvation was placed there by mistake. So let's try this again.)


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Man of Steel on September 05, 2013, 01:46:41 PM
Funny how meaning has become disregarded in this world.

A world without meaning, will not stand.

I will repost on the RB. If someone has a problem with it, state it in response. Don't try to run away from it.
Jack when your thread is recreated on the religion board I will sticky it for you for a week or so in order that it gets complete visibility and opportunity for discussion.


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 05, 2013, 01:47:22 PM
Don't bother, mods. I'll repost it myself right now, and thanks. :)


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 05, 2013, 01:48:10 PM
Jack when your thread is recreated on the religion board I will sticky it for you for a week or so in order that it gets complete visibility and opportunity for discussion.

No need, bro. If a person has the drive to find it, that person will find it.


Title: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 05, 2013, 01:54:34 PM
You must acknowledge Goodness for all its meaning. You must accept it as the only way forward; you must give it precedence above all else, while never allowing any other thing to represent itself as such.

You must acknowledge that you have not always acted with Goodness, you must compel yourself to memorize the burden of that feeling, and you must vow to make your greatest attempt to forever reject such action.

To allow this process to resound within every bit of depth in your existence, is to be Salvaged.

**
Who will stand against the meaning of this post? Explain yourself.


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: King Shizzo on September 05, 2013, 01:57:32 PM
Jack when your thread is recreated on the religion board I will sticky it for you for a week or so in order that it gets complete visibility and opportunity for discussion.
That means about 20 posts. There is a reason why mods let threads gain traction on the G&O. The more people post, the more you have continued replies when they update the topic.  ;)


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 05, 2013, 02:08:22 PM
I understand there may be only be three or so posters on the RB board, but the people there should be more inclined to have interest than anywhere else on the site.

Obviously, it caused MOS' panties to become firmly bunched up his gigantic ass, as soon as he read it. You can't tell me for one minute that he moved a thread titled Salvation, with such a short, clear message, "by mistake".

Bullshit move, MOS, but we're even.  ;D


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: syntaxmachine on September 05, 2013, 02:47:18 PM
1. What do you mean by "meaning"?

2. What do you mean by "Goodness"?

3. Preemptive questions for once we've established what you're trying to say: Says who?

Why believe any of these prescriptive propositions (statements about how we ought to behave)?

Why can't I focus on Goodness most of the time rather than all of the time?

What happens if I ignore these recommendations?

How do you know all of this?


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 05, 2013, 03:05:20 PM

Hahah..I love it! Let's go with it, and see where it ends up. Would love to have Christians join in, too.



1. What do you mean by "meaning"?

Gee, syntaxmachine, what do you mean by "mean"?

2. What do you mean by "Goodness"?

I say Good and Bad tend to be clear. Right and Wrong are often up for debate. Would you disagree?

3. Preemptive questions for once we've established what you're saying: Says who?

Anyone who would accept this message as truth.

Why believe any of these prescriptive propositions (statements about how we ought to behave)?

How could I possibly answer that for you?

Why can't I focus on Goodness most of the time rather than all of the time?

I think you'll find that's exactly what happens, no matter how hard you try.

What happens if I ignore these recommendations?

I'm sure you currently ignore them, right? So why would you need to ask?

How do you know this?

I feel it, if that's what you mean to say, more strongly than anything else I've felt in my existence.


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 05, 2013, 03:37:13 PM
1. What do you mean by "meaning"?

2. What do you mean by "Goodness"?

3. Preemptive questions for once we've established what you're trying to say: Says who?

Why believe any of these prescriptive propositions (statements about how we ought to behave)?

Why can't I focus on Goodness most of the time rather than all of the time?

What happens if I ignore these recommendations?

How do you know all of this?

This post has been answered on Religion Board. Would like to see where this goes...everyone welcome!


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: King Shizzo on September 05, 2013, 03:39:25 PM
This post has been answered on Religion Board. Would like to see where this goes...everyone welcome!
Hi Man of Steel!


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 05, 2013, 05:42:29 PM
Okay. Where did Syntax's reply go?

I had no idea how strange the simple act of posting a thread could become. It has made its way around the board, and now it can't seem to keep its replies intact.

(BTW, I have more extensive thoughts on this subject, in case anyone is looking to become further angered or upset or whatever. But let's see where this goes. Will check in a few times over the course of the next few weeks.)


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Man of Steel on September 06, 2013, 05:01:31 AM
I understand there may be only be three or so posters on the RB board, but the people there should be more inclined to have interest than anywhere else on the site.

Obviously, it caused MOS' panties to become firmly bunched up his gigantic ass, as soon as he read it. You can't tell me for one minute that he moved a thread titled Salvation, with such a short, clear message, "by mistake".

Bullshit move, MOS, but we're even.  ;D

Man oh man did this upset you.  You're even insulting me now....so be it.   From board vet to board newb these kinds of thing happen everyday.....posts and threads get deleted and moved all the time.  

I thought it was moved to the religion board on accident so I moved it back to the G&O were most threads like this originate.  That's all that happened.  I've said 4 times now that it was my mistake.  Many threads have been moved to the religion board in error and have had titles that indicate possible religious content, but the actual posts within had no religious content.  So they were moved out to the appropriate boards.   Your thread is titled "Salvation", but the content was an abstraction on goodness.  Fine, perhaps the deeper meaning is directly tied to religion, but at first blush it didn't appear to be.  Mods in some boards see buzzwords in titles related to topics on other boards and move threads.  I moved it back to the G&O were I assumed it originated because I thought I was helping out.   I'm so sorry I misinterpreted the deep religious meaning of this thread.  It's back where it belongs now.  

LOL, I'm done talking about this because it's giving this situation way more attention than was EVER needed.  If you choose to reply that's fine, but this will be my last post on the subject.



Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 06, 2013, 05:04:18 AM
I get posts deleted every day no sweat, keep whining.


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Man of Steel on September 06, 2013, 05:19:44 AM
Okay. Where did Syntax's reply go?

I had no idea how strange the simple act of posting a thread could become. It has made its way around the board, and now it can't seem to keep its replies intact.

(BTW, I have more extensive thoughts on this subject, in case anyone is looking to become further angered or upset or whatever. But let's see where this goes. Will check in a few times over the course of the next few weeks.)

The posts within this thread have been untouched by me and will remain untouched by me unless they violate Ron's board rules.  Otherwise, if posts are deleted, moved or changed it will have been done by the poster, by Butterbean or by Ron.

Suggestion:  if you want this thread to gain traction then add your additional thoughts because threads like this die almost immediately.  


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Man of Steel on September 06, 2013, 05:29:25 AM
This 2nd "Salvation" thread was moved from the G&O to the religion board.  I will now merge the two "Salvation" threads started by Jack T. Cross.  


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Man of Steel on September 06, 2013, 05:31:16 AM
The two "Salvation" threads have now been merged.



Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 06, 2013, 08:33:24 AM
I get posts deleted every day no sweat, keep whining.

Sorry that you view it as 'whining', Mr. N. Perhaps someday you could offer more than a half-sentence in thoughts, and we could get to know where you stand on various things.


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 06, 2013, 08:36:42 AM
Man oh man did this upset you.  You're even insulting me now....so be it.   From board vet to board newb these kinds of thing happen everyday.....posts and threads get deleted and moved all the time.  

I thought it was moved to the religion board on accident so I moved it back to the G&O were most threads like this originate.  That's all that happened.  I've said 4 times now that it was my mistake.  Many threads have been moved to the religion board in error and have had titles that indicate possible religious content, but the actual posts within had no religious content.  So they were moved out to the appropriate boards.   Your thread is titled "Salvation", but the content was an abstraction on goodness.  Fine, perhaps the deeper meaning is directly tied to religion, but at first blush it didn't appear to be.  Mods in some boards see buzzwords in titles related to topics on other boards and move threads.  I moved it back to the G&O were I assumed it originated because I thought I was helping out.   I'm so sorry I misinterpreted the deep religious meaning of this thread.  It's back where it belongs now.  

LOL, I'm done talking about this because it's giving this situation way more attention than was EVER needed.  If you choose to reply that's fine, but this will be my last post on the subject.

Maybe I should've allowed it to be worked out completely via PM, despite having disbelief that it was done through error.

Though I doubt you'd deny having a gigantic (muscular, of course) ass.

BTW, yes, sometimes it becomes necessary to approach things in a roundabout manner, if you could ever hope to express certain thoughts without being immediately shut off. Wish it weren't that way, but that's life.


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Man of Steel on September 06, 2013, 10:30:44 AM
You must acknowledge Goodness for all its meaning. You must accept it as the only way forward; you must give it precedence above all else, while never allowing any other thing to represent itself as such.

You must acknowledge that you have not always acted with Goodness, you must compel yourself to memorize the burden of that feeling, and you must vow to make your greatest attempt to forever reject such action.

To allow this process to resound within every bit of depth in your existence, is to be Salvaged.

Ok Jack, so goodness and all of it's meaning.   I assume goodness at one end of the spectrum and badness at the other?  Goodness being typically defined as behavior aligned with superior moral qualities....helping the needy, giving of yourself, living a virtuous life.  Things along those lines I assume?  

So what is the standard for goodness in this instance?  Do multiple standards of goodness exist?  Is goodness subjective (one person's goodness is another's badness)?

Move forward in a state of goodness, but to what end?  The end of your life?  

Then recognizing that I haven't always acted with goodness and thereby committing myself to then live in a state of goodness for the rest of my days.  And by doing so and allowing that ackowledgement of goodness and goodness itself to permeate every fiber of who I am, I am then saved (or salvaged).

So via the acknowledgement of my lack of goodness and the conscious decision to committ myself to goodness I have then saved myself?  Saved myself from what exactly?  


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: B_B_C on September 06, 2013, 10:59:18 AM
Sorry that you view it as 'whining', Mr. N. Perhaps someday you could offer more than a half-sentence in thoughts, and we could get to know where you stand on various things.


are you always this charming or did you make a special effort on this occasion?


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 06, 2013, 06:11:54 PM
Ok Jack, so goodness and all of it's meaning.   I assume goodness at one end of the spectrum and badness at the other?  Goodness being typically defined as behavior aligned with superior moral qualities....helping the needy, giving of yourself, living a virtuous life.  Things along those lines I assume?  

So what is the standard for goodness in this instance?  Do multiple standards of goodness exist?  Is goodness subjective (one person's goodness is another's badness)?

Move forward in a state of goodness, but to what end?  The end of your life?  

Then recognizing that I haven't always acted with goodness and thereby committing myself to then live in a state of goodness for the rest of my days.  And by doing so and allowing that ackowledgement of goodness and goodness itself to permeate every fiber of who I am, I am then saved (or salvaged).

So via the acknowledgement of my lack of goodness and the conscious decision to committ myself to goodness I have then saved myself?  Saved myself from what exactly?  

MOS, I wouldn't and couldn't possibly presume to instruct you in this way. I would argue that, because you have your own brain, your own will, and your own unique experience to draw from, that only you could attempt to analyze it for yourself in this regard.

If the piece was appropriately refitted to become a more recognizable message, and using Jesus as the primary word, what would be your opinion?


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 06, 2013, 06:14:55 PM

are you always this charming or did you make a special effort on this occasion?

You should save a lot of time and travel by making that retort your signature, BBC. :)


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Man of Steel on September 06, 2013, 06:51:22 PM
MOS, I wouldn't and couldn't possibly presume to instruct you in this way. I would argue that, because you have your own brain, your own will, and your own unique experience to draw from, that only you could attempt to analyze it for yourself in this regard.

If the piece was appropriately refitted to become a more recognizable message, and using Jesus as the primary word, what would be your opinion?

Is that the intent that we should evaluate it as we see fit?  That for me, goodness is representative of Jesus Christ because I'm a Christian?  Certainly I relate salvation with Christ, but was that your intent?  I know you had indicated that words have meaning so I'm just trying to understand a bit better.


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 06, 2013, 07:43:00 PM
Is that the intent that we should evaluate it as we see fit?  That for me, goodness is representative of Jesus Christ because I'm a Christian?  Certainly I relate salvation with Christ, but was that your intent?  I know you had indicated that words have meaning so I'm just trying to understand a bit better.

How could I presume to answer that for you, MOS?


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: B_B_C on September 07, 2013, 02:44:59 AM
You should save a lot of time and travel by making that retort your signature, BBC. :)

not everybody warrents the question


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 07, 2013, 07:20:53 AM
not everybody warrents the question

Have you asked it of yourself, ever?


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Man of Steel on September 07, 2013, 11:33:15 AM
Ok, this thread is officially nonsense and not related to religion.  I made the correct call on it initially.


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: King Shizzo on September 07, 2013, 02:00:03 PM
Ok, this thread is officially nonsense and not related to religion.  I made the correct call on it initially.
meltdown.


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 07, 2013, 02:33:20 PM
MOS: Would you say a powerful tool of the devil, is deception?


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: B_B_C on September 07, 2013, 03:02:26 PM
Have you asked it of yourself, ever?

I have indeed Sir but on this occasion I am not the poster constantly seeking to be right - Id prefer to be happpy


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 07, 2013, 03:11:17 PM
I have indeed Sir but on this occasion I am not the poster constantly seeking to be right - Id prefer to be happpy

You're welcome to step in and help us figure the matter out, unless you're enjoying your irrelevancy.

 ;D


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 08, 2013, 07:05:26 AM
MOS, running away from thought doesn't work.

I'm not going to fight it, if it bothers you so much to have this in your "domain". But you should understand that your irrational response to it, just gives it all the more weight.

Think, bro. Please. God gave you a brain FOR THIS SPECIFIC REASON.


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 08, 2013, 06:12:44 PM
Why did you decide to delete your last post so quickly, MOS?

BTW, I have no problem with this thread sitting right here. It's absolutely perfect.


Title: Re: Salvation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 30, 2013, 03:43:15 PM
ubi concordia, ibi victoria