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Title: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2013, 11:19:12 PM
I'm convinced the progressive left are the literally the dumbest people on the planet. Way to Fuck up the state even more, assclowns.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Mawse on September 12, 2013, 11:33:52 PM
Now they can claim even more benefits get car insurance!

Next stop prop 13 to pay their benefits fund our schools!
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on September 13, 2013, 03:24:20 AM
Brown is completely inept. Fucked this state at every turn  >:(
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Money Man on September 13, 2013, 03:29:52 AM
Not only should they have a license in California, but in all states. It's about time we give the Mexicans even though here illegally some respect. They are hard working and most are good people who don't break any laws.
Except for wanting a better future so they came into the country illegally.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Money Man on September 13, 2013, 03:30:55 AM
They also are harder workers then most Americans are now. Sad but true.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: 240 is Back on September 13, 2013, 03:32:45 AM
I'm convinced the progressive left are the literally the dumbest people on the planet. Way to Fuck up the state even more, assclowns.

it's happening in 3 other states (Wash, NM, IL) and being led by republicans there.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-12-05/gop-support-helps-move-immigrant-drivers-licenses

The moment we try to assign one party blame for it, dems will all defend it and suddenly you have half the nation backing this.

I'd rather say "a few people from both parties in 4 states are giving people who should get the boot, the ability to drive every day".   Point out the beliefs of these very few.  it's not a dem/repub issue, it's not right/left... Just like Marco Rubio is VERY LIBERAL on immigration, I'd never say all repub 2016 candidates are very liberal on immigration.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Archer77 on September 13, 2013, 03:41:31 AM
They also are harder workers then most Americans are now. Sad but true.

Mexican immigrants maybe but after a generation or two they often become less productive than the previous generations. 
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on September 13, 2013, 03:50:26 AM
Illegals are by definition criminals. You think they care about violating the vehicle code? Pfft!
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Parker on September 13, 2013, 04:51:56 AM
Not only should they have a license in California, but in all states. It's about time we give the Mexicans even though here illegally some respect. They are hard working and most are good people who don't break any laws.
Except for wanting a better future so they came into the country illegally.
Why are we to to assume that it's "Mexicans"? Like only "Mexicans" are illegal? Or only "Mexicans" are immigrants who are illegal, in California?

Problem is, people who were breaking the law before, will continue to break the law again,

And, hard working? Please, why is it that all these "hard working" people come from countries that are corrupt, inept, poor, and or third world? Makes you wonder just how hard working these people really are, if their countries don't reflect said hard work. You hear the same thing about Jamaicans, Africans, Eastern Europeans, Middle Easterners, etc...everybody is "hard working"...yet their respective countries don't reflect that.


Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: MORTALCOIL on September 13, 2013, 05:04:10 AM
Why are we to to assume that it's "Mexicans"? Like only "Mexicans" are illegal? Or only "Mexicans" are immigrants who are illegal, in California?

Problem is, people who were breaking the law before, will continue to break the law again,

And, hard working? Please, why is it that all these "hard working" people come from countries that are corrupt, inept, poor, and or third world? Makes you wonder just how hard working these people really are, if their countries don't reflect said hard work. You hear the same thing about Jamaicans, Africans, Eastern Europeans, Middle Easterners, etc...everybody is "hard working"...yet their respective countries don't reflect that.




Do you really hear the same thing about all of them? You sure don't in France. Africans (North and Sub-Sharan) are considered lazy as fuck and only coming here for the Welfare system. Immigrants don't migrate for fun. A country's state has not only to do with how hard-working it's population is. Many factors play a role. The only thing you can actually be sure of is that the stronger the entitlements are, the more likely you are to attract migrants who are there by sheer opportunism.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Parker on September 13, 2013, 05:31:29 AM
Do you really hear the same thing about all of them? You sure don't in France. Africans (North and Sub-Sharan) are considered lazy as fuck and only coming here for the Welfare system. Immigrants don't migrate for fun. A country's state has not only to do with how hard-working it's population is. Many factors play a role. The only thing you can actually be sure of is that the stronger the entitlements are, the more likely you are to attract migrants who are there by sheer opportunism.
Yep, you hear it about all of them...
Africans feel you owe them---what with the French colonies and all. They will milk the system, just like you milked them...and you (we) make it easier for them to do it
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: MORTALCOIL on September 13, 2013, 05:41:40 AM
Yep, you hear it about all of them...
Africans feel you owe them---what with the French colonies and all. They will milk the system, just like you milked them...and you (we) make it easier for them to do it

The system does make it easier for them. I don't feel responsible for that as of right now, working, earning your money is almost an act of resistance. I'm an immigrant too even though I was born on French soil. Except my parents didn't come here to milk the system. They didn't need to at first and when they could have done it, guess what, they started working even harder. Comes down to your education too. But here, the system wants people to be dependent on it. Future voters themselves or their children at some point. Today's generation don't owe shit for what their parents or grand parents or whoever has done. And you can't collect your ancestors outstanding debts either. Passing that kind of torch is a sure way to hit the wall full speed.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Nails on September 13, 2013, 06:41:29 AM
cool, mexicans can now drive in their own country
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: LittleJ on September 13, 2013, 06:47:24 AM
Great news
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: gmflex on September 13, 2013, 06:56:08 AM
Not only should they have a license in California, but in all states. It's about time we give the Mexicans even though here illegally some respect. They are hard working and most are good people who don't break any laws.
Except for wanting a better future so they came into the country illegally.






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Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 13, 2013, 07:02:02 AM
cool, mexicans can now drive in their own country
Everytime I go to get a renewed license there are like 50 Mexicans and one white guy in line. I am a minority now where is my government assistance?
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 13, 2013, 07:38:24 AM
Not only should they have a license in California, but in all states. It's about time we give the Mexicans even though here illegally some respect. They are hard working and most are good people who don't break any laws.
Except for wanting a better future so they came into the country illegally.

Go to Mexico without a passport or ID and let me know what happens. They don't break any laws? Most do break laws. Whether it's stolen ID's or otherwise, They HAVE to break laws to survive. How many Illegals do you suppose get jobs on a stolen SS? 60, 70, 90%?

Have you see California's prison system? Are you kidding me? How many do you suppose claim welfare only to knowingly rape the system? DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH HARD WORKING PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY IN TAXES TO SUPPORT THIS BULLSHIT? We have sanctuary cities for ILLEGALS who commit serious crimes.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Money Man on September 13, 2013, 08:34:53 AM
Well I'm sure they come in and clean you're gym every night.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 13, 2013, 09:43:13 AM
Well I'm sure they come in and clean you're gym every night.

I clean my own gym and have a Merry Maid service for our home. It's up to the company to figure out whether they're legit or not.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: timfogarty on September 13, 2013, 10:02:41 AM
Problem is, people who were breaking the law before, will continue to break the law again,

said on a board dedicated to a sport that requires you to break federal law to be able to compete.

There are just laws and unjust laws.  Immigration laws are unjust and arbitrary.

to put it another way, if you've ever taken steroids or done any recreational drugs, then you're a hypocrite
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: LittleJ on September 13, 2013, 10:24:07 AM
said on a board dedicated to a sport that requires you to break federal law to be able to compete.

There are just laws and unjust laws.  Immigration laws are unjust and arbitrary.

to put it another way, if you've ever taken steroids or done any recreational drugs, then you're a hypocrite

Is this comment for Coach? Sounds like fighting words Tim.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Archer77 on September 13, 2013, 10:34:40 AM
said on a board dedicated to a sport that requires you to break federal law to be able to compete.

There are just laws and unjust laws.  Immigration laws are unjust and arbitrary.

to put it another way, if you've ever taken steroids or done any recreational drugs, then you're a hypocrite

Youre only a hypocrite if you accept the premise that immigration laws are unjust. 
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 13, 2013, 10:36:35 AM
I clean my own gym and have a Merry Maid service for our home. It's up to the company to figure out whether they're legit or not.

So why do you suppose they don't, Coach?
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: chaos on September 13, 2013, 10:39:51 AM
said on a board dedicated to a sport that requires you to break federal law to be able to compete.

There are just laws and unjust laws.  Immigration laws are unjust and arbitrary.

to put it another way, if you've ever taken steroids or done any recreational drugs, then you're a hypocrite
Laws are laws, if you get caught you should be punished, not rewarded with amnesty/licensing. Can you imagine them catching someone with steroids and instead of arresting him buying him some weights for home?
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 13, 2013, 10:58:00 AM
said on a board dedicated to a sport that requires you to break federal law to be able to compete.

There are just laws and unjust laws.  Immigration laws are unjust and arbitrary.

to put it another way, if you've ever taken steroids or done any recreational drugs, then you're a hypocrite

Bullshit, the difference is if you use steroids it affects no one but yourself...whereas all these programs pandering to the hordes of illegals all come at the expense of the american taxpayer.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Archer77 on September 13, 2013, 11:00:49 AM
I love the way simpletons like u blame the "progressive left" for illegal immigration. Don't u realize it's the agribusiness, meat packing, and similar interests who are the real force behind continuing to allow "illegal" immigration?

Nobody gives a shit about political ideology. It's all about money you retard.



Bullshit, the difference is if you use steroids it affects no one but yourself...whereas all these programs pandering to the hordes of illegals all come at the expense of the american taxpayer.

Both of these statements are absolutely true.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: davej1963 on September 13, 2013, 11:02:37 AM
 :) :'( :-*
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Mawse on September 13, 2013, 11:11:16 AM
 It's a good point that the parents work hard for very little money - the only problem with is the ninos

 If the kids didn't get citizenship and automatic benefits (the cost of which is 40K+ each a year) then it would be all good. Unfortunately the cost of raising the kids totally offsets the benefit of cheap labor but the rich people get subsidized maids and corporations get tax subsidized cheap labor.

 As someone else mentioned those same kids grow up with their parents educational attainment level, but not their work ethic. So you end up with millions of young people with HS education at best but the entitled American mentality of not wanting to work hard

and this is the group that will save SS, according to the idiots in charge.

The far left loves them because they vote Dem by default. The reps love them for the 'cheap' labor, the irony is that this group is going to destroy the Rep party in the next decade. Once texas goes blue it's all over for the NeoCons
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: JBGRAY on September 13, 2013, 11:16:58 AM
Exactly what does bringing in a million plus legal and illegal immigrants, the vast majority of which are unskilled and uneducated, do for our nation?

- Increased stresses on our power grid, forcing us to burn more fossil fuels/deplete more fresh water/increased nuclear waste.

- More fresh water usage, especially throughout the SW. Cities such as Phoenix and Las Vegas are facing severe water shortages.

- Hospitals going bankrupt as persons without insurance are getting treated for free...Doctors and hospitals not getting compemsation for services rendered.

- Drastic demographic changes (which ALWAYS result in mass violence) bring increased crime rates and create large swathes of blight within our cities (as if predominantly black communities arent enough).

- Where is the demand for low wage, low-skilled labor? There isnt any.

- Increased taxes along the board.....more stresses on roadways, public welfare systems, and healthcare. Prepare for 5$ plus prices for gasoline due to tax increases, skyrocketing insurance premiums that will be out of reach for the middle class, and tens of millions more receiving government subsidies.

- More pollution, more crime, bigger divisions of rich and poor, exportation of middle class jobs, less freedoms.....this is what politicians advocating increased immigration and/or amnesty propose to Americans.

Both liberals and conservatives are ignorant of the issue, or do not pay heed to the issue as they each hold to their belief that pandering to a Spansih-speaking populace will net them votes.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 13, 2013, 11:19:13 AM
So why do you suppose they don't, Coach?

I need to rephrase that. It's up to the company for the employee to provide documentation...it's NOT up to the company to see if that documentation is legit. My opinion is that the company should do that as well.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Bevo on September 13, 2013, 11:20:34 AM
It's a good point that the parents work hard for very little money - the only problem with is the ninos

 If the kids didn't get citizenship and automatic benefits (the cost of which is 40K+ each a year) then it would be all good. Unfortunately the cost of raising the kids totally offsets the benefit of cheap labor but the rich people get subsidized maids and corporations get tax subsidized cheap labor.

 As someone else mentioned those same kids grow up with their parents educational attainment level, but not their work ethic. So you end up with millions of young people with HS education at best but the entitled American mentality of not wanting to work hard

and this is the group that will save SS, according to the idiots in charge.

The far left loves them because they vote Dem by default. The reps love them for the 'cheap' labor, the irony is that this group is going to destroy the Rep party in the next decade. Once texas goes blue it's all over for the NeoCons

Tx better better not go blue  >:(
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 13, 2013, 11:23:21 AM
Exactly what does bringing in a million plus legal and illegal immigrants, the vast majority of which are unskilled and uneducated, do for our nation?

- Increased stresses on our power grid, forcing us to burn more fossil fuels/deplete more fresh water/increased nuclear waste.

- More fresh water usage, especially throughout the SW. Cities such as Phoenix and Las Vegas are facing severe water shortages.

- Hospitals going bankrupt as persons without insurance are getting treated for free...Doctors and hospitals not getting compemsation for services rendered.

- Drastic demographic changes (which ALWAYS result in mass violence) bring increased crime rates and create large swathes of blight within our cities (as if predominantly black communities arent enough).

- Where is the demand for low wage, low-skilled labor? There isnt any.

- Increased taxes along the board.....more stresses on roadways, public welfare systems, and healthcare. Prepare for 5$ plus prices for gasoline due to tax increases, skyrocketing insurance premiums that will be out of reach for the middle class, and tens of millions more receiving government subsidies.

- More pollution, more crime, bigger divisions of rich and poor, exportation of middle class jobs, less freedoms.....this is what politicians advocating increased immigration and/or amnesty propose to Americans.

Both liberals and conservatives are ignorant of the issue, or do not pay heed to the issue as they each hold to their belief that pandering to a Spansih-speaking populace will net them votes.

Doesn't really do much except give the left more voting power for the next election. They already said it's okay for Illegals to vote so why not drivers licenses as well. It's all about power and doing it anyway they can (because God knows they can't run on issues so let give them free shit) legal but mostly illegal.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Bevo on September 13, 2013, 11:25:03 AM
Not only should they have a license in California, but in all states. It's about time we give the Mexicans even though here illegally some respect. They are hard working and most are good people who don't break any laws.
Except for wanting a better future so they came into the country illegally.

Hahaha this is funny  ;D hard working maybe a couple of generations ago now having as many babies as they can and milking the system like any low life
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 13, 2013, 11:39:06 AM
- Where is the demand for low wage, low-skilled labor? There isnt any.

Wrong. There is an incredible demand for it: agribusiness, meat packing, car washes, domestic help, fast food and restaurant work in general, housekeeping, construction, retail, etc., etc., etc. We're a service economy if u haven't noticed.

Not everyone is working at Google.

Half of those are jobs that high school kids do. The others could easily be filled by other AMERICANS who are struggling to find work. The myth that we 'need' millions of immigrants to fill jobs is bullshit...a case can be made for some european countries with negative birth rates and declining populations, but not here.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: JBGRAY on September 13, 2013, 11:41:05 AM
- Where is the demand for low wage, low-skilled labor? There isnt any.

Wrong. There is an incredible demand for it: agribusiness, meat packing, car washes, domestic help, fast food and restaurant work in general, housekeeping, construction, retail, etc., etc., etc. We're a service economy if u haven't noticed.

Not everyone is working at Google.

There is a MISPLACED demand for it. Meatpacking is skilled labor....it takes many months of training alone to be able to consistently separate a cow's four stomachs from the rest of its body, possibly contaminating the meat if failing to do so. Meat cutting provided many middle-class wages to hundreds of thousands of people.

Since when has agriculture alone been unaffected by technological advances?  Pineapples in Hawaii used to be picked by hundreds of Filipinos in the field....now a machine does it. The US does NOT need millions more unskilled laborers picking beans.

Fast food is an industry that does NOT need migrant workers as these jobs can be filled easily enough by students, the jobless, and ex convicts. There are more students per capita out of work then there have been before because 50 year old Jose and Jorge "seek a better life."

The low wage jobs are nowhere near in number enough to warrant hundreds of thousands of illegal hordes pouring over into our borders.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: the trainer on September 13, 2013, 11:41:38 AM
I'm convinced the progressive left are the literally the dumbest people on the planet. Way to Fuck up the state even more, assclowns.

you are mexican also why are you shitting on your brothers and sisters asshole.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Nails on September 13, 2013, 11:46:07 AM
you are mexican also why are you shitting on your brothers and sisters asshole.

Uncle Tom coach
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: The Ugly on September 13, 2013, 11:51:16 AM
Why are we to to assume that it's "Mexicans"? Like only "Mexicans" are illegal? Or only "Mexicans" are immigrants who are illegal, in California?

Have you been to California? What, you're thinking maybe wayward Canadians are to blame? Come on, Parker.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Jack T. Cross on September 13, 2013, 12:10:23 PM
I need to rephrase that. It's up to the company for the employee to provide documentation...it's NOT up to the company to see if that documentation is legit. My opinion is that the company should do that as well.

Would you say there may be some appearance of collusion between government and companies in this regard?
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: arce1988 on September 13, 2013, 12:12:19 PM
  Fuck moon beam
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: jwb on September 13, 2013, 12:17:04 PM
Stop giving them jobs and they will stop coming.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 13, 2013, 01:33:51 PM
Stop giving them jobs and they will stop coming.

Them coming isn't my concern. The concern is that our government lets them come without any real due process. If the system we had was enforced I would have no problem. Just come over the right way. Shit, we have signs by the California/Mexico boarder that have an image of mexicans crossing. Like a freaking cattle crossing sign.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: LittleJ on September 13, 2013, 01:35:22 PM
I like hispanics
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Nails on September 13, 2013, 01:35:27 PM
Them coming isn't my concern. The concern is that our government lets them come without any real due process. If the system we had was enforced I would have no problem. Just come over the right way. Shit, we have signs by the California/Mexico boarder that have an image of mexicans crossing. Like a freaking cattle crossing sign.


yea look mexican to me

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Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 13, 2013, 01:49:24 PM

yea look mexican to me

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It's implied, boner ::)
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 13, 2013, 01:54:23 PM
They are hard working honest people for the most part. They fled because of crime and to make a better life. So many in New Jersey are church going people working long hours at manual labor that the average x box players wouldn't touch.

Regarding the driver's license every state has different laws with some having  between reciprocity states. What happens in a lot of states is you have an illegal Mexican driving without a license with no identification what so ever. The local court doesn't want to put them in jail with bond because of a driving infraction like speeding. Naturally like I stated before different states and even different towns have their own policy. So this is the scenario. A cop pulls over a Mexican for speeding and not having a license. His dispatch calls he local court clerk. Either by policy or direct communications with the judge they don't want to jail the guy for speeding. They tell the cop to issue the ticket to what every name and address the Mexican provides. The Mexican flips the ticket on the ground as soon as the cop leaves knowing he gave a completely fictitious identity. Now if you provide a false identity as an American you will be charged with a form of hindering apprehension of course worded according to your state laws. It should be universal in this country if a foreign national is driving without identification he will be put in jail and have to pay bond to get our according to the amount of tickets received.

This leaves us should Mexicans have some kind of driver's license or an American identification card. The knee jerk reaction will be this is completely fucked up giving a Mexican a license. In review of all possible outcomes it makes sense and I will explain.  First Mexicans will see it as a preliminary step toward establishing a recorded time span in America toward citizenship so many will want it. Second they will be held more accountable for driving infractions especially if the second part of the equation is jail and bond for not having a license is enforced.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Parker on September 13, 2013, 02:15:53 PM
Have you been to California? What, you're thinking maybe wayward Canadians are to blame? Come on, Parker.
you don't get what I'm saying. People use Mexican and illegal immigrant interchangeably, people also use Mexican and Latino interchangeably. In MD,  we have a large El Salvadorian population, and yes a MS-13 problem. And they of course hate Mexicans...but, many times people refer to them as Mexicans...like to some, every Asian is Chinese.

You'd be surprised at the amount of people who come thru borders illegally who are not Mexican. You have El Salvadorians, Guatamalans, Hondorans, Costa Ricans, etc.

And speaking of Canadians, yes, there are tons of those as well.


Speaking about the license issue, the politicians want the money that will initially flow they the DMV and the state, then the votes---money for campaigning.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: arce1988 on September 13, 2013, 02:15:57 PM
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can some one shop mexican hats on them?
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: arce1988 on September 13, 2013, 02:18:47 PM
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Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Nails on September 13, 2013, 02:25:09 PM
you don't get what I'm saying. People use Mexican and illegal immigrant interchangeably, people also use Mexican and Latino interchangeably. In MD,  we have a large El Salvadorian population, and yes a MS-13 problem. And they of course hate Mexicans...but, many times people refer to them as Mexicans...like to some, every Asian is Chinese.

You'd be surprised at the amount of people who come thru borders illegally who are not Mexican. You have El Salvadorians, Guatamalans, Hondorans, Costa Ricans, etc.

And speaking of Canadians, yes, there are tons of those as well.


Speaking about the license issue, the politicians want the money that will initially flow they the DMV and the state, then the votes---money for campaigning.



QFT
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Nails on September 13, 2013, 02:26:30 PM
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 ;D

There we go, that is mexican crossing
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Mawse on September 13, 2013, 03:11:41 PM
 First Mexicans will see it as a preliminary step toward establishing a recorded time span in America toward citizenship so many will want it. Second they will be held more accountable for driving infractions especially if the second part of the equation is jail and bond for not having a license is enforced.

got to love the double standard, anyone else with an illegal 'recorded time span in America' gets deported and isn't allowed to re-enter the US (even as a tourist) for 10 years. But for these guys it's a positive thing to count towards their fast-track citizenship.

 meanwhile the hard working, legal, engineer from Shanghai or the research chemist from Denmark who've done everything legally and waited years for their residence visa have to wait another decade while the guys who hang outside home depot get priority processing.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: The Ugly on September 13, 2013, 03:26:22 PM
you don't get what I'm saying. People use Mexican and illegal immigrant interchangeably

Because it's usually correct. The overwhelming majority are from Mexico, especially in the border states. And I'm not buying the Canadian nonsense; it's a blatant misdirection.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Archer77 on September 13, 2013, 03:37:51 PM
Because it's usually correct. The overwhelming majority are from Mexico, especially in the border states. And I'm not buying the Canadian nonsense; it's a blatant misdirection.

In Florida it's Cubans, Haitians and Dominicans.  In New York it's Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and sometime Russians.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: The Ugly on September 13, 2013, 03:40:36 PM
In Florida it's Cubans, Haitians and Dominicans.  In New York it's Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and sometime Russians.

Yes, but the political uproar is coming from western states.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 13, 2013, 04:46:58 PM
got to love the double standard, anyone else with an illegal 'recorded time span in America' gets deported and isn't allowed to re-enter the US (even as a tourist) for 10 years. But for these guys it's a positive thing to count towards their fast-track citizenship.

 meanwhile the hard working, legal, engineer from Shanghai or the research chemist from Denmark who've done everything legally and waited years for their residence visa have to wait another decade while the guys who hang outside home depot get priority processing.

I agree with you. We are getting flooded with illegal immigrant Mexicans while people who want to come he legally can't come in.

Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 13, 2013, 04:49:25 PM
In Florida it's Cubans, Haitians and Dominicans.  In New York it's Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and sometime Russians.

Puerto Ricans are US citizens since 1917. An American doesn't need a pass port to go to Puerto Rico and the other way around. Cubans fleeing the dictatorship if they hit our shores are legally allowed to be here.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: WalterWhite on September 13, 2013, 04:55:38 PM
You would think with $620 billion in debt CA leadership would have better things to do!
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Parker on September 13, 2013, 05:02:26 PM
Because it's usually correct. The overwhelming majority are from Mexico, especially in the border states. And I'm not buying the Canadian nonsense; it's a blatant misdirection.
Depends...are there a lot of Mexicans who are illegal? Yes, but it's just a blanket term that Gringoes (we Americans) use to refer to a lot of Latinos. Because if you ask some of these "Mexicans", you'll find that many are of Central American origin, meaning not Mexican. Many are cultural similar, but we as Americans just want to assume, and don't want to figure it out, so just lump everyone together.
I've seen it where a person told a person from PR to go back to Mexico. There is a high level of ignorance amongst Americans---English speakers.

Also, this woman, a Canadian came here illegally...Melyssa Ford.
(http://www.melyssa-ford.net/images/melyssa_ford29.jpg)
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Moontrane on September 13, 2013, 05:29:51 PM
Puerto Ricans are US citizens since 1917. An American doesn't need a pass port to go to Puerto Rico and the other way around. Cubans fleeing the dictatorship if they hit our shores are legally allowed to be here.

Right.  Puerto Ricans are no more illegal that Tim Duncan or Kelsey Grammer.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: viking1 on September 13, 2013, 05:37:12 PM
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Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: lightweight on September 13, 2013, 07:14:56 PM
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 13, 2013, 07:21:14 PM
John Deere.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: ultrafuelmuscle on September 13, 2013, 07:54:12 PM
And BTW, all u so-called "conservatives" who have been decrying private sector unions for the last 40 years, guess what? Those unions were one of the few well-heeled counters to the big business/international corporations that wanted open borders for the cheap labor. Well, now the unions are gone, and there is virtually no significant organized group to check the wishes of big business, which is why nothing has really ever been done to stop illegal immigration. And big business is profit driven and international in scope. The people who run these corporations could care less if your hometown turns into Tijuana.

I hope your happy w/ your GOP politicians. At least we kicked Saddam's ass. That's meaningful.



good post unionize!
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: The Ugly on September 13, 2013, 08:39:45 PM

Also, this woman, a Canadian came here illegally...Melyssa Ford.
(http://www.melyssa-ford.net/images/melyssa_ford29.jpg)

Ok, there's one.
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: dario73 on September 17, 2013, 07:15:40 AM
California=bastion of liberal stupidity

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/09/16/undocumented-la-county-parents-projected-to-receive-650m-in-welfare-benefits


LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — A projected $650 million in welfare benefits will be distributed to illegal alien parents in 2013, county officials said Monday.

Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich announced the latest figures from the Department of Public Social Services, which showed more than $376 million in CalWORKs benefits and food stamps combined have been distributed through July to illegal alien parents for their native-born children.

Approximately $54 million in welfare payments are issued each month, consisting of nearly $20 million in CalWORKs and $34 million in food stamp issuances, according to the data.

An estimated 100,000 children of 60,000 undocumented parents receive aid in Los Angeles County, according to Antonovich, who said this year’s projections — up about $1 million from the nearly $53 million in total benefits issued in July 2012 — underscore the economic impact of the nation’s immigration debate.

“When you add the $550 million for public safety and nearly $500 million for healthcare, the total cost for illegal immigrants to county taxpayers exceeds $1.6 billion dollars a year,” Antonovich said in a statement. “These costs do not even include the hundreds of millions of dollars spent annually for education.”


Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 17, 2013, 07:26:17 AM
And BTW, all u so-called "conservatives" who have been decrying private sector unions for the last 40 years, guess what? Those unions were one of the few well-heeled counters to the big business/international corporations that wanted open borders for the cheap labor. Well, now the unions are gone, and there is virtually no significant organized group to check the wishes of big business, which is why nothing has really ever been done to stop illegal immigration. And big business is profit driven and international in scope. The people who run these corporations could care less if your hometown turns into Tijuana.

I hope your happy w/ your GOP politicians. At least we kicked Saddam's ass. That's meaningful.



You have to be joking?
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 17, 2013, 08:11:23 AM
California=bastion of liberal stupidity

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/09/16/undocumented-la-county-parents-projected-to-receive-650m-in-welfare-benefits


LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — A projected $650 million in welfare benefits will be distributed to illegal alien parents in 2013, county officials said Monday.

Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich announced the latest figures from the Department of Public Social Services, which showed more than $376 million in CalWORKs benefits and food stamps combined have been distribsuted through July to illegal alien parents for their native-born children.

Approximately $54 million in welfare payments are issued each month, consisting of nearly $20 million in CalWORKs and $34 million in food stamp issuances, according to the data.

An estimated 100,000 children of 60,000 undocumented parents receive aid in Los Angeles County, according to Antonovich, who said this year’s projections — up about $1 million from the nearly $53 million in total benefits issued in July 2012 — underscore the economic impact of the nation’s immigration debate.

“When you add the $550 million for public safety and nearly $500 million for healthcare, the total cost for illegal immigrants to county taxpayers exceeds $1.6 billion dollars a year,” Antonovich said in a statement. “These costs do not even include the hundreds of millions of dollars spent annually for education.”




Makes me want to vomit...
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Desolate on September 29, 2013, 09:56:12 PM
got to love the double standard, anyone else with an illegal 'recorded time span in America' gets deported and isn't allowed to re-enter the US (even as a tourist) for 10 years. But for these guys it's a positive thing to count towards their fast-track citizenship.

meanwhile the hard working, legal, engineer from Shanghai or the research chemist from Denmark who've done everything legally and waited years for their residence visa have to wait another decade while the guys who hang outside home depot get priority processing.

Yep. Welcome to a truly sick fucking world. :(
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: Naggash on October 06, 2013, 05:19:15 AM
Haha at you fucking losers who keep blathering how they're "hard working and honest"

Who gives a fuckin shit? The majority of people out there are "hard working and honest." It isn't a grand achievement.

Lets just do away with any form of national sovereignty and resource management because a horde of non white people want a better life.  ::)

Ps, look up the amount of hospitals closed down due to illegals who have put a massive strain on the health system as well as the likelihood of them being involved in car collisions whilst driving under the influence.....yeh, allowing millions of undocumented people into a country always works out for the best  ::)
Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: pinksandgreens on October 08, 2013, 03:34:09 AM
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Title: Re: California - Gov. Moon Baby approves drivers licenses for illegals
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 08, 2013, 01:13:14 PM
Laws are laws, if you get caught you should be punished, not rewarded with amnesty/licensing. Can you imagine them catching someone with steroids and instead of arresting him buying him some weights for home?



This would absolutely be a reward. A reward in that I'm paying insurance premiums and they won't be, and just like ACA my rates will go up due to uninsured claims.

No citizenship = no tax or liability but a license, govt bennies and likely the right to vote.

Wow makes such sense to me...