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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Ex Coelis on September 20, 2013, 11:57:28 AM
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two weeks full force on the diet
less than 1000 calories per day, fasted cardio in the morning, fasted weights after work
lots of water, diet coke/pepsi, tea and sugar free gum
gluten free and 250 mg/wk "vitamin" T
results:
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You get that Vitamin T at GNC?
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How much water(on average) are you drinking
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looking tight already, take it easy with the aspartame there ;)
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how skinny where you before you put on the weight? ???
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Two weeks full force means no refeeds?
Nice work, good physique
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Congrats
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Nice progress...Tattoo looks childish...
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So eat 1000 calories a day and you'll lose weight. Say it ain't so. You broke the 1000 year old problem plaguing mankind and all it took was a book from gaylingo and noony.
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galeniko back is ripped
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Looking lean man, good job.
8)
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1000 calories and testosterone is the easy way. Try doing it natural like me. Much harder.
But seriously good job.
How much you weigh? Height?
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Aspartame is a neurotoxin so I hear...I smoke rollies and drink coffee but try to limit my aspartame consumption ;)
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thanks for the comments everyone - much credit to gal and no one
I'll answer each question when I get back from the grocery store to stock up for my re-feed 8)
some more quick pictures from this afternoon's circuit:
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getting shredded natural is all the same hard, just wont keep the mass so well.
dont make it sound hard than it is.
If youre losing muscle then obviously doing it natural is harder because being musclar and cutt is the whole objective. So no its not all the same hard. Nattys have to take the slower approach when getting down to single digits.
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dieting?
just pop a shitload of t3 and do whatever
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is there a before pic to compare to
or am i missing something
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have you tried both ways?if no, your opinion is hearsay.
You should try talking to a real bb nutritionist and theyll tell you the same thing i am.
hope this helps.
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there is no bb nutritionist.
i have done both, natty and on gear, the diet is same level hardness.
do you know whos "disgusted"?a guy who has prepared dozens of people, im sure if he sees this thread he will set you straight.
meanwhile, believe whatever you want, and go feel proud about natural status,lol, but dieting natural and geared is all the same.
you base your saying on hearsay, do you realize how stupid that is.
again, ihave done it both ways, its the same exact thing, the only thing different is the muscle mass amount.
the metabolism works all the same way as long one only eats clean.
you dont knwo the first thing about steroids and how they work, and you will not know until you try them.
Anyone with a brain knows dieting natty and enhanced are not the same. But go ahead and keep telling yourself that drugs didn't help you accomplish your goals.
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Excellent work! Gal is awesome about answering my questions and is a great guy! OTH is also a guy that has answered questions for me and offered help. Good people here at GB!
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Walter is one of the good ones!
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Proof that many on here are totally delusional....
This was me at 6-7% 185 pounds natural at 40 years old ;)
In the following years I tried the pro hormones...the andro the norandro 19- etc. etc.
Didn't do shit.
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It's just your basic PSMF(Protein Sparing Modified Fast) diet variant used by bodybuilders for over a decade. There's nothing groundbreaking or special about it.
No shit if you eat around 1000 calories of mostly protein while being on T you're gonna lose fat.
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the difference is 30gramms of fat in the diet daily and thats it.
im sick of "arguing" with newbies.
you said haha, to prevent muscle tissue from being wasted when hitting single digits, haha, thats a good one.
you dont have a clue what you talking about.
wheres your most shredded pic,i have a feeling you havent been there yet.
single digits, are you joking.nobody should ever be fatter than single digits
Lets be real for a second & make no mistake, being in AAS enables you to carry not just more muscle, but WAAAY more muscle without loosing any of it when on a low calorie diet. More muscle = more food, that also means more shit food.
Proof that many on here are totally delusional....
This was me at 6-7% 185 pounds natural at 40 years old ;)
In the following years I tried the pro hormones...the andro the norandro 19- etc. etc.
Didn't do shit.
Another one of those finishing touch guy's eh?
(http://s21.postimg.org/gd9isjf93/kaz9f_Ko.jpg)
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You get that Vitamin T at GNC?
yes, but it's available to Gold Card members only :-\
How much water(on average) are you drinking
I carry a one litre canteen at work, just drink as much as I can which helps curb the hunger
average 5 or 6 litres probably
Two weeks full force means no refeeds?
Nice work, good physique
thanks, bro!
I did one refeed on the saturday morning
2 bags of chips, 5 gluten free muffins, almost a litre of ice cream, and half a Mars bar (in one sitting)
passed out for a few hours afterwards and didn't feel like eating again till sunday afternoon 8)
Congrats
thanks Arce!
you're good people
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boom, looking great coelis, shoulders striated to the max, chest looks like made from granite.
maybe this will motuvate some fatsos to make ceasefire with the fork for a while.
thanks, Gal!
high compliments from the man himself
the book is a priceless guide - every question along the way to shrededness answered in detail from your personal experience
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Walter is one of the good ones!
You certainly are too brother!
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Anyone with a brain knows dieting natty and enhanced are not the same. But go ahead and keep telling yourself that drugs didn't help you accomplish your goals.
spot on
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Good work EC.
LEAN.
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No disrespect to galeniko or no one, this was 30 years age on exactly two weeks of dieting. (picture posted for the millionth time)
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cool story im as lean year round
I'm not a big believer in staying that lean year around. I'll keep my weight down, but if I stay around 12-14%, thats good enough.
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cool story im as lean year round
But you're small. Coach has more mass.
No disrespect, just saying.
Hope this helps.
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WELL HELLO.
(would.)
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Good job but why call it vitamin t. Just man up and say testosterone injection. Wtf? And eating 1000 cal a day everybody will lose.
What swim competition are you going for?
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But you're small. Coach has more mass.
No disrespect, just saying.
Hope this helps.
Where's your pic at big guy?
Good job but why call it vitamin t. Just man up and say testosterone injection. Wtf? And eating 1000 cal a day everybody will lose.
What swim competition are you going for?
Where's your mom's pic at big guy?
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So eat 1000 calories a day and you'll lose weight. Say it ain't so. You broke the 1000 year old problem plaguing mankind and all it took was a book from gaylingo and noony.
it's about more than the calories
fasting, hydration, training, and most of all breaking free from the Flex magazine myths of anabolic windows, overtraining and maintaining proper nitrogen balance by feeding every two hours
these are ingrained in bbers and real people alike - the book destroys them
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might as well include my pics as my approach is the same as GAL'S AND NO ONE'S ;)
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1000 calories and testosterone is the easy way. Try doing it natural like me. Much harder.
But seriously good job.
I stay lean all year round, while on and while clean
doing it with test allows you to work harder - "natural" requires more time off
thanks for the kind words though - the book works for everyone regardless
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The boards are filled with babes! Sorry to have nothing of value to contribute at the moment, but... well I guess if a lot of you got into this to score tail, maybe it IS valuable to know that at least one lady approves haha.
Promise when I have some kind of "progress pics" to share, getbig will be the first lot to know. In the meantime, please, continue submitting material for future deposits into the spank bank.
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well if 1000 cal works for some why all this drama.
drugs or natural whatever its personal.
its funny when I hear some say its all drugs blah blah.
well yes aas well keep muscles on low cals.
but it takes real bodybuilders to train and eat and keep growing and looks good.
so far the pictures ive seen here show some real dedicated bodybuilders.
natural or not its not anyone business.
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I am seriously considering getting lean. I am not sure how that will work out for an old fart like me, but if it doesn't work out well, I can take comfort in the fact that clothes look great on lean people.
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Excellent work! Gal is awesome about answering my questions and is a great guy! OTH is also a guy that has answered questions for me and offered help. Good people here at GB!
thanks, man!
yes, gal and OTH are awesome
Proof that many on here are totally delusional....
This was me at 6-7% 185 pounds natural at 40 years old ;)
In the following years I tried the pro hormones...the andro the norandro 19- etc. etc.
Didn't do shit.
it took you 40 years to get that lean?
as they say it's the journey not the destination
you look great but damn that's a long voyage :( ;D
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Anyone with a brain knows dieting natty and enhanced are not the same. But go ahead and keep telling yourself that drugs didn't help you accomplish your goals.
yes, that's why people use them . . .
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Gayleniko where are your lats ?
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Good work EC.
LEAN.
thanks, D.O.U.P
the hunger sucks and the food fantasies made it hard to concentrate at times but the results were so FAST that it kept the motivation strong
still, my favourite place is the grocery store now - I walk around for hours just looking at food 8)
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its also why theres not 1 natty who looks real good year round.not 1.
::)
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I'm not a big believer in staying that lean year around. I'll keep my weight down, but if I stay around 12-14%, thats good enough.
that's poor justification for being lazy and unhealthy
I can understand not staying 5-6% but why should anyone outside of arctic exploration choose to be that fat ???
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well if 1000 cal works for some why all this drama.
drugs or natural whatever its personal.
its funny when I hear some say its all drugs blah blah.
well yes aas well keep muscles on low cals.
but it takes real bodybuilders to train and eat and keep growing and looks good.
so far the pictures ive seen here show some real dedicated bodybuilders.
natural or not its not anyone business.
x2
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The boards are filled with babes! Sorry to have nothing of value to contribute at the moment, but... well I guess if a lot of you got into this to score tail, maybe it IS valuable to know that at least one lady approves haha.
Promise when I have some kind of "progress pics" to share, getbig will be the first lot to know. In the meantime, please, continue submitting material for future deposits into the spank bank.
X2 on both
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have you tried both ways?if no, your opinion is hearsay.
hope this helps.
im not sure if youre serious with this.
sounds like someone who overrates the t3.
very common thing amongst the ones who uhm, havent even tried it yet.
if you think t3 gonna make you shredded by doing whatever, youre brutaly mistaken
don't forget the magic tren to really melt that fat right off. ::)
Even 150mcg t3 isn't that different in fat burn from 50mcg, but it makes you feel like shit, weak etc. And it will maybe, maybe burn 5% more cals at most.
good work OP
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might as well include my pics
Not only big but also have a powerful look.
You probably paid your dues and only started juicing AFTER having built a solid foundation with several years of hard training. Hence why you have much more mass than Galeniko who started juicing too soon which is why he's on the small side and will always be on the small side despite all the juice. Unlike Galeniko you are not totally dependent on the juice.
Good job.
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that's poor justification for being lazy and unhealthy
I can understand not staying 5-6% but why should anyone outside of arctic exploration choose to be that fat ???
Well, at 51 I'm by no means lazy and still follow a fairly regimented eating plan and the last time I had a physical I got a clean bill of health. 12-14% is not fat (maybe by Ambercrombie model standards it is) and I carry a lot of muscle, more than the average bodybuilder and A LOT more than most "bodybuilders" my age. My goal, at present, isn't to get to single digits. People are so obsessed with staying lean (8-10% and below) they lose site on putting on mass.
This was in 2007, I was 205 at 8% at 5'7 and 46 years old..
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Not only big but also have a powerful look.
You probably paid your dues and only started juicing AFTER having built a solid foundation with several years of hard training. Hence why you have much more mass than Galeniko who started juicing too soon which is why he's on the small side and will always be on the small side despite all the juice. Unlike Galeniko you are not totally dependent on the juice.
Good job.
define "all the juice"
everything in this paragraph proves that you haven't actually read the book . . .
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Well, at 51 I'm by no means lazy and still follow a fairly regimented eating plan and the last time I had a physical I got a clean bill of health. 12-14% is not fat (maybe by Ambercrombie model standards it is) and I carry a lot of muscle, more than the average bodybuilder and A LOT more than most "bodybuilders" my age. My goal, at present, isn't to get to single digits. People are so obsessed with staying lean (8-10% and below) they lose site on putting on mass.
This was in 2007, I was 205 at 8% at 5'7 and 46 years old..
i remember those coach,,thick delts,strong look,i still like your younger zane look pics,but still a bit harder and better legs u should/could been in top 5 or so in that show.
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Well, at 51 I'm by no means lazy and still follow a fairly regimented eating plan and the last time I had a physical I got a clean bill of health. 12-14% is not fat (maybe by Ambercrombie model standards it is) and I carry a lot of muscle, more than the average bodybuilder and A LOT more than most "bodybuilders" my age. My goal, at present, isn't to get to single digits. People are so obsessed with staying lean (8-10% and below) they lose site on putting on mass.
This was in 2007, I was 205 at 8% at 5'7 and 46 years old..
you looked great, Joe, no doubt - world class!
I found over 10% I felt slow and laboured, the picture of poor health
when I'm lean I have more energy (maybe not while cutting 8) ), vitality, and feeling of over-all well-being
extra "size" is taxing on the system - making lean gains is one thing, "bulking" (excuse for getting fat) is entirely different
a person at any age and any size looks better lean anyway, health points aside
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Well, at 51 I'm by no means lazy and still follow a fairly regimented eating plan and the last time I had a physical I got a clean bill of health. 12-14% is not fat (maybe by Ambercrombie model standards it is) and I carry a lot of muscle, more than the average bodybuilder and A LOT more than most "bodybuilders" my age. My goal, at present, isn't to get to single digits. People are so obsessed with staying lean (8-10% and below) they lose site on putting on mass.
This was in 2007, I was 205 at 8% at 5'7 and 46 years old..
What is your BF % in this mpic Coach ?
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/sidechest1.jpg)
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This was in 2007, I was 205 at 8% at 5'7 and 46 years old..
"not sure hes got more mass" - Galeniko ::)
Coach has MUCH more mass than Galeniko
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i remember those coach,,thick delts,strong look,i still like your younger zane look pics,but still a bit harder and better legs u should/could been in top 5 or so in that show.
I agree. But in my defence, 5 weeks prior, i tore my meniscus and sprained my MCL. Leg work sucked but i managed.
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What is your BF % in this mpic Coach ?
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/sidechest1.jpg)
Not sure, that was at Milo's gym. I was about 240 in that pic.
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240 in that pic.
5'7'' 240 lbs , holy fuck .
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Well, at 51 I'm by no means lazy and still follow a fairly regimented eating plan and the last time I had a physical I got a clean bill of health. 12-14% is not fat (maybe by Ambercrombie model standards it is) and I carry a lot of muscle, more than the average bodybuilder and A LOT more than most "bodybuilders" my age. My goal, at present, isn't to get to single digits. People are so obsessed with staying lean (8-10% and below) they lose site on putting on mass.
This was in 2007, I was 205 at 8% at 5'7 and 46 years old..
coach, you looked really excellent, so no disrespect, but your pics have a super weird shape. pec tear? they're just the roundest/ most circular pecs I've ever seen
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Easy to maintain every day look...
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Easy to maintain every day look...
awesome, one of the top 5 physiques on getbig
(and no, bouncer isn't anywhere near that list)
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bigro what are you on mate? btw. this is me at %10 bf right now still got some fat to lose in midsection
20 years old 180cm 90 kilos
(http://m1309.hizliresim.com/1f/p/sw9wc.jpg)
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Easy to maintain every day look...
fuck your build is so balanced and awesome. (Full blown homo))
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awesome, one of the top 5 physiques on getbig
(and no, bouncer isn't anywhere near that list)
:D
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bigro what are you on mate? btw. this is me at %10 bf right now still got some fat to lose in midsection
20 years old 180cm 90 kilos
(http://m1309.hizliresim.com/1f/p/sw9wc.jpg)
Look awesome bro.
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hi gali,i told u it works...peace hami...
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bigro what are you on mate? btw. this is me at %10 bf right now still got some fat to lose in midsection
20 years old 180cm 90 kilos
I am pretty sure Big Ro has been following a strict diet of chocolate and lobst... wait, no, that's not it at all. Sadly.
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big ro that is world class right there.
perfection.
utmost respect, no homo :D
he looks great..
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bigro what are you on mate? btw. this is me at %10 bf right now still got some fat to lose in midsection
20 years old 180cm 90 kilos
(http://m1309.hizliresim.com/1f/p/sw9wc.jpg)
If this is 10% then I am 8% already. Arms and delts looking very good. Thick. Midsection is terrible tho. You've been fatso in past, haven't you?
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could be 10%, depends a bit if hes natty or not.
has bit unfortunate fat distribution, stomach navel area takes it all.
hard to tell, seeing legs and back would help.
its few weeks away from proper sizpack on galeniko diet, or 2 months on normal diet.
he would look really good ...more wrapped look /skin thinner on muscle.guy has good build,deciever too..
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coach, you looked really excellent, so no disrespect, but your pics have a super weird shape. pec tear? they're just the roundest/ most circular pecs I've ever seen
Left pec tear :(
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I am 2-3kg lighter AND fatter than my best self. I should take a picture with "got juice?" because that's what I really need. In a week I will be back in Europe and I will see. I am satisfied with that tho. FFS I'm no athlete, I'm computer nerd.
I need tren. And yes, I know, I know. It helps me tremendously. Maybe I'm lazy fuck, who knows.
4 weeks ago I was so fat I barely saw my dick. I blame Ben&Jerrys, top sirloin and my local indian food.
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BTW about the diet:
Do it by the book or don't bother. yes you loose weight with 100g of rice on top of that broccoli and chicken but sugar cravings get CRAZY when you do that. if you do not have time/possibility to pull that diet at a given moment just eat clean and less than usual. go full out when you DO have time.
There are many more things to consider when you're dieting rather than the caloric level itself. It's also the mental aspect. Carbs fuck this part up. I thought I can modify it and make it work. I was wrong.
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There are countless decent non assisted physiques out there who don't (they cannot or they would waste away) drop to 1000 cals/day.
To say naturals can't look good all year round is also utter bullshit. If by "good" someone means vascular, full, and shredded then of course not, but naturals can't look like that anyway. Sorry Layne, growing into a show when you're clean just doesn't happen.
The naturals who look good year round may not be stage big, but they can look plenty big in the right photos - definitely getbig big. They will just not have rounded off muscles other than in their strongest body parts.
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There are countless decent non assisted physiques out there who don't (they cannot or they would waste away) drop to 1000 cals/day.
To say naturals can't look good all year round is also utter bullshit. If by "good" someone means vascular, full, and shredded then of course not, but naturals can't look like that anyway. Sorry Layne, growing into a show when you're clean just doesn't happen.
The naturals who look good year round may not be stage big, but they can look plenty big in the right photos - definitely getbig big. They will just not have rounded off muscles other than in their strongest body parts.
Your point? Where is it?
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Looks like a legit protocol galeniko!! How much
Test and am cardio is needed brotha?
Can u post a typical day of dieting for u?
Thanks bro!
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Looks like a legit protocol galeniko!! How much
Test and am cardio is needed brotha?
Can u post a typical day of dieting for u?
Thanks bro!
Buy the book.
No am cardio, am training - yes. Typical day - 1kg of chicken, 1kg of green veggies, spread as you want. That's it I think.
Rest is in the book.
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Your point? Where is it?
My point is that there are people in this thread who say naturals can't look good year round. Anyone buying that is going to set themselves up for failure, resort to gear and then think they can't ever get off it / simply stop training and eating properly when / if they come clean. This is one reason why there are so many shitty physiques around.
I'll also comment that anyone who thinks it's just the same to diet on juice as off is in a world of delusion. Getting shredded can be brutal, but at least on the sauce you retain some fullness / strength and can even progress (no matter how harsh the diet) assuming you are able to step up your drug regime because you weren't an idiot who overdid things in the off-season.
A natural guy going all the way to stage shredded has none of that. He will probably feel like shit just as if he was using, but he won't have the same level of positive feedback and this makes it much harder mentally. The mind controls everything when on a hard diet.
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it's about more than the calories
fasting, hydration, training, and most of all breaking free from the Flex magazine myths of anabolic windows, overtraining and maintaining proper nitrogen balance by feeding every two hours
these are ingrained in bbers and real people alike - the book destroys them
So Galeniko read the already popular Alan Aragon and Lyle Mcdonald. Whoopty doo. Groundbreaking stuff regurgitating the work of others and passing it off as your own.
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So Galeniko read the already popular Alan Aragon and Lyle Mcdonald. Whoopty doo. Groundbreaking stuff regurgitating the work of others and passing it off as your own.
I guess Galeniko doesn't even know who the fuck Alan Aragon is.
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This is me about 3 months into Galeniko diet. Pic taken earlier this week :D Still dialing and redialing in my diet.
Down from 209-210 lbs morning to 161-162.
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If this is 10% then I am 8% already. Arms and delts looking very good. Thick. Midsection is terrible tho. You've been fatso in past, haven't you?
yes i was a fatso before.. thats why i needed so much time to lose fat on midsection it justn doesnt go away... btw. this is 10% bro i was measured by my coach
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booooooom* nuclear explosion sound*
yes it works indeed
you have great arms and delts
your back is poor
ripped to shreds but no dense muscle
some bent over rows would thicken you out
you would look sick that ripped with some thickness on there
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damn you came a long way brother.looking fantastic.
bigmc, the thickness comes with 1% more bodyfat, not rows,lol, try eating no carbs for so long, get down to this spetacular bodyfatlevel and see what happens to thickness.
also kinda genetics, nah, i got pics soemwhere where im bit fatter, and dont remember, after carbo load or just lots food, thickness comes.
i know, you yourself havent been shredded yet in the life, let alone competition level bodyfat, but you go to gym where couple ppl compete,right?
have you see what happens to the thickness when they get totaly lean and deplete?
all flat and stuff, ill post the pics some day, but not in a hurry, me i prefer the rock hard look.
when i boxed i was ripped to shreds
im not hating on you
you have a phenomenal physique
i just dont think your back is on par with the rest
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This is me about 3 months into Galeniko diet. Pic taken earlier this week :D Still dialing and redialing in my diet.
Down from 209-210 lbs morning to 161-162.
wow, well done man.
Galeniko is first and foremost arms, then delts, then (surprisingly) - legs. Then back but his worst bodypart is chest. He claims his legs are 58cm but ffs, they look good. Puts all that "oooh I cannot train legs because I can't wear jeans" into perspective. And ludicrous 80cm legs claims :D
My legs in avatar are like 61-63cm, lol. And I squat 180kg ATG. No problems with jeans at all.
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Got a link where to buy the book galeniko?
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This is me about 3 months into Galeniko diet. Pic taken earlier this week :D Still dialing and redialing in my diet.
Down from 209-210 lbs morning to 161-162.
Great non existent chest... ::)
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There are countless decent non assisted physiques out there who don't (they cannot or they would waste away) drop to 1000 cals/day.
To say naturals can't look good all year round is also utter bullshit. If by "good" someone means vascular, full, and shredded then of course not, but naturals can't look like that anyway. Sorry Layne, growing into a show when you're clean just doesn't happen.
The naturals who look good year round may not be stage big, but they can look plenty big in the right photos - definitely getbig big. They will just not have rounded off muscles other than in their strongest body parts.
this is very true
I'm clean much of the year and was lean when completely natural (not "10%" delusional "lean")
the difference is thickness and fullness while on, but drier midsection less water retention when off
a trade-off for sure - look smaller in clothes but shocking when naked
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So Galeniko read the already popular Alan Aragon and Lyle Mcdonald. Whoopty doo. Groundbreaking stuff regurgitating the work of others and passing it off as your own.
but only gal and no one are honest enough to address the "supplements" side
yes, there's a lot of great information out there, no doubt
in the end it's what you choose to do with that information :)
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studs and winners in this thread. good job guys, looking good.
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that was-you full well know this-shoudlers tucked back flexing.
this isnt lat spread, but oh well here you go
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/damir55/20130922_050447_zpsf0f5366d.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/damir55/media/20130922_050447_zpsf0f5366d.jpg.html)
:D
I repeat , where are your lats ???
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This is me about 3 months into Galeniko diet. Pic taken earlier this week :D Still dialing and redialing in my diet.
Down from 209-210 lbs morning to 161-162.
wow, good fucken hustle there bro ;) looking shredded
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Chritsmas trees are overrated , I have a Christmas tree at 12% BF .
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Chritsmas trees are overrated , I have a Christmas tree at 12% BF .
nope not possible
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nope not possible
I can take a picture and show you .
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I can take a picture and show you .
ok do it then.
I think you are mistaken of what a Christmas tree is in bodybuilding terms. A christmas tree is not just an outline of the triangular shape the lats make in the lower back, it is ridges on the edges every inch making the details of an actual Christmas tree. Other wise it would just be called a triangle and this comes in at 7-8% AT THE VERY MOST
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This is me about 3 months into Galeniko diet. Pic taken earlier this week :D Still dialing and redialing in my diet.
Down from 209-210 lbs morning to 161-162.
Поздравляю......looking good man, 40+ lbs damn
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ok do it then.
I think you are mistaken of what a Christmas tree is in bodybuilding terms. A christmas tree is not just an outline of the triangular shape the lats make in the lower back, it is ridges on the edges every inch making the details of an actual Christmas tree. Other wise it would just be called a triangle and this comes in at 7-8% AT THE VERY MOST
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I know what a Christmas tree is , I've been doing this shit longer than you bro.
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I know what a Christmas tree is , I've been doing this shit longer than you bro.
so stfu and post the pic then fagget.
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This is me about 3 months into Galeniko diet. Pic taken earlier this week :D Still dialing and redialing in my diet.
Down from 209-210 lbs morning to 161-162.
Awesome physique (no homo) , what's your height?
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Awesome physique (no homo) , what's your height?
bullshit
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This is me about 3 months into Galeniko diet. Pic taken earlier this week :D Still dialing and redialing in my diet.
Down from 209-210 lbs morning to 161-162.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=494220.0;attach=535969;image)
Nomad you look great there (33.3% homo)
Respect!
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Great non existent chest... ::)
Don't know if you can spot the partial right pec tear but I can't train my chest like I used to. Most of my chestwork comes from boxing bag work and push ups. I loved heavy lifting esp, heavy benching and was decent at it. Suffered a partial tear in my right pec at the MT junction last summer, end of June. Prior to tear I could 1rm 355 lbs at 185lb morning, two days later fucked up "big time' trying to 1RM 365 lbs.
I got videos from that time if you want proof.
damn you came a long way brother.looking fantastic.
bigmc, the thickness comes with 1% more bodyfat, not rows,lol, try eating no carbs for so long, get down to this spetacular bodyfatlevel and see what happens to thickness.
also kinda genetics, nah, i got pics soemwhere where im bit fatter, and dont remember, after carbo load or just lots food, thickness comes.
i know, you yourself havent been shredded yet in the life, let alone competition level bodyfat, but you go to gym where couple ppl compete,right?
have you see what happens to the thickness when they get totaly lean and deplete?
all flat and stuff, ill post the pics some day, but not in a hurry, me i prefer the rock hard look.
Thanks man, especially coming from you. I find fast carbs, aka breads / pastries and sugary stuff bloat me up super fast. The worst bloater has to be alchool, regardless if its beer or hard liquor.
Awesome physique (no homo) , what's your height?
Barely 5'9 morning. after all the squats and punches I'm tad over 5'8.
Поздравляю......looking good man, 40+ lbs damn
Spasibo ogromnoye. Nadeyus u teby s tvoyey injury recovery vse horosho idet.
Reactiya ot bolshenstvo ludei ohueyenaya. Mozhno skazat lyudi kotoriye menya leto ne videli sharahayutsya ot raznitsi i menya sovsem ne uznayut.
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Starting today.
6`5 200
(http://i43.tinypic.com/208e0ro.jpg)
Going by gals book, will post again in 2 weeks.
6'5 200? You need to eat brother not diet lol
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hey,che i know what you mean with xmas tree kinda at higher bosyfats, but oth has a good point, its not just the striations on lower back.
I give up , I can't take a picture of my back for shit , but here it is so you can have an idea .
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where are your lats ;D
Nowhere to be found ,they might be hanging out with yours ;D
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everyone looking great here, for me at 45 i hold fat in lower back,i'm in great shape everywhere but there,here's a back shot and i am a big believer in rows i do all versions 2-3 per workout.
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i have kinda piss poor lats, high insterion and all, but lat spread when bit fatter looks quite good,theres been pics, but they gone now.oh well.will do some eventualy again.
if they havent grown by now, they most likely never will :D
Actually my lats, quads and triceps are my best body parts.
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Actually my lats, quads and triceps are my best body parts.
how's your ass?
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how's your ass?
Tbombzesque
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I know what a Christmas tree is , I've been doing this shit longer than you bro.
you certainly do not if you think someone can have one at 12%
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someone mentioned ped honesty.
good point, theres the "natty" deniers who lie
theres the dealers who tell you if you run enough,all will be good
and then theres noone, oth and gal who will honestly tell what is what and tell to the natties the realist limits.
I didn't do it natty obviously. Ironically not much clen, dropped it month into the diet b/c I felt it made me hungrier and interfered with my intensity cardio training, aka voluming the boxing bag.
Other then that, just ph's so no good stuff. No super high doses either cause they are liver heavy and I basically shifted from drinking every day if not every other day to working out and cutting.
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1234481_10200810148038552_1291214289_n.jpg)
I am 2-3kg lighter AND fatter than my best self. I should take a picture with "got juice?" because that's what I really need. In a week I will be back in Europe and I will see. I am satisfied with that tho. FFS I'm no athlete, I'm computer nerd.
I need tren. And yes, I know, I know. It helps me tremendously. Maybe I'm lazy fuck, who knows.
4 weeks ago I was so fat I barely saw my dick. I blame Ben&Jerrys, top sirloin and my local indian food.
u look like shit urself and critize my body haha u look fat and small bro sorry
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you certainly do not if you think someone can have one at 12%
A picture is worth a thousand words, I'm 10-12% BF and I have a Chritsmas tree ,I hope this helps.
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A picture is worth a thousand words, I'm 10-12% BF and I have a Chritsmas tree ,I hope this helps.
How did you measure you bodyfat?
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A picture is worth a thousand words, I'm 10-12% BF and I have a Chritsmas tree ,I hope this helps.
hey che, mind if I pm you sometime for boxing training tips and other boxing related stuff?
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everyone looking great here, for me at 45 i hold fat in lower back,i'm in great shape everywhere but there,here's a back shot and i am a big believer in rows i do all versions 2-3 per workout.
lots of thickness on there nj props
thats the back of a man that can lift heavy
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how's your ass?
I wasn't shocked when I saw who asked that question ;D
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che owning minds once again itt
nomad, you look great
natural?
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I repeat , where are your lats ???
What's sad is galeniko actually thinks his back looks good enough to show off and brag about. When in reality ive seen teenage football players with better backs.
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What's sad is galeniko actually thinks his back looks good enough to show off and brag about. When in reality ive seen teenage football players with better backs.
Uh, I'm pretty sure Gale has done the exact opposite of "brag" about his back.
i have kinda piss poor lats, high insterion and all, but lat spread when bit fatter looks quite good,theres been pics, but they gone now.oh well.will do some eventualy again.
What he's showing off is not his back, but his supremely awesome CONDITIONING. He's not all abs and bicep veins. He was showing us he's also lean from the rear. How is that "sad"? He's waaaaay the fuck leaner than I am (and I have a pretty decent back), and I'd bet way the fuck leaner than you too.
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che owning minds once again itt
nomad, you look great
natural?
only 33.3% natty
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What's sad is galeniko actually thinks his back looks good enough to show off and brag about. When in reality ive seen teenage football players with better backs.
your posts are getting increasingly hostile, bro
either you're frustrated because you're fat and look like shit, or you're on the galeniko diet and you're starving ;D
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Uh, I'm pretty sure Gale has done the exact opposite of "brag" about his back.
What he's showing off is not his back, but his supremely awesome CONDITIONING. He's not all abs and bicep veins. He was showing us he's also lean from the rear. How is that "sad"? He's waaaaay the fuck leaner than I am (and I have a pretty decent back), and I'd bet way the fuck leaner than you too.
If it's only about conditioning perhaps anorexic people should post their pics here too.
Galeniko needs to stop cutting and instead worry about adding some mass. This is a bodyBUILDING forum not a twink forum.
Perhaps instead of writing books he should read a few about how to train back.
Hope this helps.
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your posts are getting increasingly hostile, bro
either you're frustrated because you're fat and look like shit, or you're on the galeniko diet and you're starving ;D
I wouldn't follow the diet of some unqualified nobody. I do currently look like shit tho - due to years of inactivity - and am on a 1300 low-to-no carb diet.
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I didn't always look like shit. I got into bad car accident a few years ago. I'm now somewhat healed and back to working out and making progression as a natural.
Meanwhile, with you, all those years of juicing and your back sucks and you still lack mass. I've seen teenagers with bigger backs than yours. I know polygraph tested naturals who are bigger than you.
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If it's only about conditioning perhaps anorexic people should post their pics here too.
Galeniko needs to stop cutting and instead worry about adding some mass. This is a bodyBUILDING forum not a twink forum.
Perhaps instead of writing books he should read a few about how to train back.
Hope this helps.
6-7% bf at 200, 6ft is big you dumbass.
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6-7% bf at 200, 6ft is big you dumbass.
He's not 200lbs. Looks more like 180 tops. Back doesn't look 200lbs. Legs sure as hell don't look 200lbs. And either way 200lbs at 6ft isn't big. Still, 180 tops but more likely 170ish.
Regardless its sad considering all the juice over the years. So sad.
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But don't get me wrong, his physique still looks good - just not by bodybuilding standards and not good enough to be a guru writing books. Not good enough to preach to the members here.
You gotta know your role.
Hope this helps.
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Galeniko is not small and to people who says he is I'm sure he doesn't care. He's not trying to impress men or compete, he just wants to be muscular and ripped to get chicks which he does just fine. Dude looks better than 99% of getbig.
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This is me about 3 months into Galeniko diet. Pic taken earlier this week :D Still dialing and redialing in my diet.
Down from 209-210 lbs morning to 161-162.
looking good man, well done
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looking good man, well done
Yeah he does look good. Big lats you could see from the front ... obviously not from galeniko's book of wisdom.
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Gal has a solid physique and is a good guy.....looking like a retard permabulker is only for the mentally deficient.
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But don't get me wrong, his physique still looks good - just not by competitive bodybuilding standards and not good enough to be a guru writing books. Not good enough to preach to the members here.
You gotta know your role.
Hope this helps.
he is from team aesthetic
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yeah all the way representing team estethic lean face full head of hair.
not doing this for the schmoes.
not interested in turtle shell gut, bald head, midget testicles.
looking great as always brate
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Gal has a solid physique and is a good guy.....
Good physique and a decent guy but a bit confused about natty vs enhanced and the worth of ego, thats all.
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Good physique and a decent guy but a bit confused about natty vs enhanced and the worth of ego, thats all.
Nattys (me being one) are not liked around here.....we're more at home on swimmer, soccer, or runner forums according to the local steroiadapolisis roaming planet getbig.
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Gal
V sledushii raz prosto kartinty etemy pidery pokashi
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if we go by that rule, you shouldnt even be saying a single word.
now go choke on semen, jedi govna pedercino :D
ok final adressing,this will be enough now.
i have been natty and ped, and shredded on both occasions.
you havent been anything of that but a fatso natty.
youre not qualified to talk about anything except how to be a fatso, this you are the expert,the walking testimony.
so, chubster-chubby boy, keep mouth more shut, on the onternet and on the eating table.its in your own best interest.
Let us know when the next book comes out. I think it should be titled: How a 170lb Guru on Steroids Trains His Little Back and Legs
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nah tedim, you will look back one day and say that gelelinko fellar was right, the natties have a problem accepting their limitations, they just dont wanna have it.
and on top of that,ironicaly,they overestimate the power of peds.
i dont know how to put it in any nicer words ,after doing this for a decade and half.
not trying to misleading anyone.
we have a british competitor here, "Local hero", he summed it up nicely,but harshly, "you want to help them but the retardedness runs deep"
look, a guy who hasnt even ever been shredded, by default, doesnt even know what muscle is, the whole process.
the ignorant should be happy to have ppl who even seriously adress them, but i can see why more and more dont bother anymore,and chose to ignore or laugh at the loudmouth delisuional nobodies.
this spares them much nerves and time.
i think ill do the same.
this is exactly that, fucking hell ,if someone wants advice, theyll get it, for who thinks to know better, great,write own book and see how requested your advice is.
there really is no point in this.
tedim, this post isnt adressed at you, its general.
Agree....nothing worse than wasting time.
If someone seeks info they will find it, you can't teach to the disinterested.
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Nattys (me being one) are not liked around here.....we're more at home on swimmer, soccer, or runner forums according to the local steroiadapolisis roaming planet getbig.
Whats sad is when these juicers still look like swimmers.
But in Galeniko's case he wishes he had a swimmer's back.
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yeah all the way representing team estethic lean face full head of hair.
not interested in turtle shell gut, bald head, midget testicles.
Praise.
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Whats sad is when these juicers still look like swimmers.
But in Galeniko's case he wishes he had a swimmer's back.
But to some random slut his back is H U G E !
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But to some random slut his back is H U G E !
Yup but unfortunately for him they still see his legs as small.
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Bollox, how about you get out of your basement, it's last days of summer outside. Or just take a deep breath, your brain needs oxygen.
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Yup but unfortunately for him they still see his legs as small.
We got a man that knows the ladies here folks. Oh brother.. ::)
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Galeniko has small legs? Show us your wheels. Have you ever had even one vein on your quads?
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But what is recipe for being pro? Do same, multiply doses by 10?
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We got a man that knows the ladies here folks. Oh brother.. ::)
The Bouncer has a good powerful looking physique. Do you lift heavy?
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Wolfox = ukjeff.
I called it first. This or we have some fucking retard spree going on here.
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Wolfox = ukjeff.
Wolfox = Getbig OG
We'll leave it at that.
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But what is recipe for being pro? Do same, multiply doses by 10?
whatever it takes and much,much more food ,which goes goes against gali's theory,but he like most here already have there ideal mass/size and the diet just gets it all molded to there liking,bigger vision requires bigger everything.
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The Bouncer has a good powerful looking physique. Do you lift heavy?
i lift your sister upon my magic stick..
dont ever insult the euro god that is GAL again fagget! 8)
lol @ me having a "powerful build"... bitch im the leader of team Wasp Waist!
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post pics in very small and tight shorts please gal.
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might do tomoro,im sure lobster would like to see :-* :-*
I have actually never seen the wheels, Gale. You post and I will applaud.
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females love your legs gale
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Rollin' on 22s. Distance pic. Leg in front of body and yet leg still looking small.
I've seen teenage girls with bigger legs.
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now you're clearly trolling
that's a very solid leg, with striations even showing through such distance / low resolution, apparently
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:D
would you rub the clit on this? :-* :-*
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/damir55/20130620_193240_zpsbc093929.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/damir55/media/20130620_193240_zpsbc093929.jpg.html)
Serious question. I am very lean but hold a lot of fluid in wrong spots due to high cardio and high hunger demands, i tried drinking more cola and keeping my meals a bit smaller as to what i read in this thread and can see a massive difference already. What difference does the cola make and what else could i add to hold more water. I have times when i look super lean but can't hold it due to the hunger.
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diet coke all day baby. actually feel like it helps empty my stomach (makes it look tighter) maybe increases digestion of food?
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it also looks like the whole upper body of the guys in background, must say, looks quite solid, like slabs of bef thrown on the bones :D
yeah theres something good about it,maybe it upsets the stomach and thus keeps it empty :D
and gives bit taste to the rather pale diet.
Aldi have a version of Coke Zero, which is called Cola ZX (0 kcals etc).
Very good when chilled, but I can do 2 litres a day easy
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Aldi have a version of Coke Zero, which is called Cola ZX (0 kcals etc).
Very good when chilled, but I can do 2 litres a day easy
im going to try that
im sick of coke zero i dont think its what it used to be
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im going to try that
im sick of coke zero i dont think its what it used to be
It's good mate, and you don't feel so bad drinking 1 a day when it's like 45p for a bottle lol.
I'll pm anabolichalo about it and he can start saving up
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It's good mate, and you don't feel so bad drinking 1 a day when it's like 45p for a bottle lol.
I'll pm anabolichalo about it and he can start saving up
you can do your weekly shop in aldi for 45p
true story
round my way its full of polish shop lifters
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you can do your weekly shop in aldi for 45p
true story
round my way its full of polish shop lifters
Can't blame them, polish is get expensive
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Can't blame them, polish is get expensive
haha
yes cyp mr sheen passes hands for big money round these parts
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haha
yes cyp mr sheen passes hands for big money round these parts
I can get legit Citrus Shine for £20 a vial in Essex
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the back is shown for the conditioning, everyone who ever gotten shredded will know, the back gets dry very last for men.
woltorx guy hasnt seen his abs in his life,he wouldnt know.
hes a little ,frustrated, overly estrogening,natural bitch.
the more he posts the more hes embarassing himself and shows his own stupidity.
Yes...This is the reason Cutler is coming in at a much lighter weight. He knows his back will not stand up to Phil's at a heavy weight so he dropped weight big time...
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(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/damir55/20130920_185858_zps5093270b.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/damir55/media/20130920_185858_zps5093270b.jpg.html)
well, it was time to clear up much of confusion in the people perhaps.
theres gymrats dieting on things they read in flex magazine and then they wonder how comes it dont work for them.
now,ofc some will predictably say they knew all along ,eat 1000 cals and thats it.lose weight.point is maintain the muscle.
nono, its not so simple, theres some specifications and rules.
can go and eat 1000 cals from carb and see what happens.
you mean I don't have to eat to be huge and shredded...awesome...
so if I weigh 270 lbs offseason and compete at 245 lbs shredded and have a FAST METABOLISM--- and I do this healthy starvation diet I eat 1000 calories a day do morning fasted cardio and fasted weight training and drink lots of diet pop I can still compete at a peeled 245lbs..OK...
this diet will get ya lean and skinny sure and youll be LUCKY to weigh 200 lbs eating 1000 cals a day-
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Iam a Ifbb pro and yes I do cOmpete at 245-
My point is all your rambling about your diet stratagies are funny
-can't say I know 1 successful competitor who would use your diet ideas
And even I'd use my normal drug protocal and ate 1000 calories I wouldn't be close to 245-250 in contest shape-
Good luck-
And I ain't gonna post a pic - lol
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Iam a Ifbb pro and yes I do cOmpete at 245-
My point is all your rambling about your diet stratagies are funny
-can't say I know 1 successful competitor who would use your diet ideas
Good luck-
And I ain't gonna post a pic - lol
stfu and gtfo
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Iam a Ifbb pro and yes I do cOmpete at 245-
My point is all your rambling about your diet stratagies is funny
-can't say I know 1 successful competitor who would use your diet ideas
Good luck-
And I ain't gonna post a pic - lol
'His' diet is for like minded 160lb twinks. He forgets this website is called getBIG not gettwink.
He'll go on about 'aesthetics' with his small back, small legs, small fries and small muscularity then blame it on not increasing the dosage. Dude is a joke.
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stfu and gtfo
Ok Bouncer boy. Lmao
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Comparing apples to oranges. Average gym rat won't get shredded on a IFBB pro diet and pro may or may not get shredded on gal and no one diet. Obviously what pros do works for them, the galeniko diet is more for avg gym goer who want abs for the beach and for americano whore to say "oh wow you have big arms" at 16.5".
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Serious question. I am very lean but hold a lot of fluid in wrong spots due to high cardio and high hunger demands, i tried drinking more cola and keeping my meals a bit smaller as to what i read in this thread and can see a massive difference already. What difference does the cola make and what else could i add to hold more water. I have times when i look super lean but can't hold it due to the hunger.
Cola's or carbonated drinks, whether diet or not are not healthy. Excessive consumption mess you up pretty bad.
Excessive Cola Consumption Can Lead To Super-Sized Muscle Problems, Warn Doctors
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090519075420.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090519075420.htm)
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diet coke all day baby. actually feel like it helps empty my stomach (makes it look tighter) maybe increases digestion of food?
I read where drinking lots of diet coke is really good for you. LOL! Since your such a nice dude, I just wanted to let you know this.
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Comparing apples to oranges. Average gym rat won't get shredded on a IFBB pro diet and pro may or may not get shredded on gal and no one diet. Obviously what pros do works for them, the galeniko diet is more for avg gym goer who want abs for the beach and for americano whore to say "oh wow you have big arms" at 16.5".
This is true. If you want your average 16 inch arms, small legs and back but be shredded, go ahead and follow the 'Galeniko way' which is just a basic PSMF variant thats been popular for over a decade.
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I read where drinking lots of diet coke is really good for you. LOL! Since your such a nice dude, I just wanted to let you know this.
go stand in your toilet and flush fagget.
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This is true. If you want your average 16 inch arms, small legs and back but be shredded, go ahead and follow the 'Galeniko way' which is just a basic PSMF variant thats been popular for over a decade.
post a pic and show us how small you make Gal look.
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go stand in your toilet and flush fagget.
So, you'd like me to piss on your face. I'm not into water sports, but in your case I could make and exception.
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post a pic and show us how small you make Gal look.
My pic? You really are a f@gget. Whats next, you wanna know my a/s/l too?
gtfo queer.
A fyi Gal is small enough to look small all on his own. He's quite proud of it too. He doesn't want to be bodybuilder.
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This is true. If you want your average 16 inch arms, small legs and back but be shredded, go ahead and follow the 'Galeniko way' which is just a basic PSMF variant thats been popular for over a decade.
Yeah that's all I want. Not interested in looking like a pro or national level competitor.
Maybe gals diet is not good for a pro, I honestly have no idea. Regardless it wasnt meant for pros, just avg dudes looking to get lean.
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Yeah that's all I want. Not interested in looking like a pro or national level competitor.
Thats cool bro. There's nothing wrong with that.
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Thats cool bro. There's nothing wrong with that.
take your bf cock out of your mouth and stop posting
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My pic? You really are a f@gget. Whats next, you wanna know my a/s/l too?
gtfo queer.
A fyi Gal is small enough to look small all on his own. He's quite proud of it too. He doesn't want to be bodybuilder.
post a pic
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Iam a Ifbb pro and yes I do cOmpete at 245-
My point is all your rambling about your diet stratagies are funny
-can't say I know 1 successful competitor who would use your diet ideas
And even I'd use my normal drug protocal and ate 1000 calories I wouldn't be close to 245-250 in contest shape-
Good luck-
And I ain't gonna post a pic - lol
Of course you can post a pic but you are just a cowardly keyboard cowboy that takes the time to critique others and ogle over their pics.
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Iam a Ifbb pro and yes I do cOmpete at 245-
My point is all your rambling about your diet stratagies are funny
-can't say I know 1 successful competitor who would use your diet ideas
And even I'd use my normal drug protocal and ate 1000 calories I wouldn't be close to 245-250 in contest shape-
Good luck-
And I ain't gonna post a pic - lol
::)
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My pic? You really are a f@gget. Whats next, you wanna know my a/s/l too?
gtfo queer.
A fyi Gal is small enough to look small all on his own. He's quite proud of it too. He doesn't want to be bodybuilder.
ah the old im not posting a pic cause you must be gay to ask me
you obviously look like shit and cant back your arguments up
why dont you stfu and let the men talk in this thread
or you could always post a pic showing how amazing you look to shut us all up
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ah the old im not posting a pic cause you must be gay to ask me
you obviously look like shit and cant back your arguments up
why dont you stfu and let the men talk in this thread
or you could always post a pic showing how amazing you look to shut us all up
He already said he looks like shit and blamed it on a car accident.
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ah the old im not posting a pic cause you must be gay to ask me
you obviously look like shit and cant back your arguments up
why dont you stfu and let the men talk in this thread
or you could always post a pic showing how amazing you look to shut us all up
Well, I am not posting pictures because when I did, all the Getbig idiots could find to comment on was the gayness of my attire. Also, I am not "all that" nor do I claim to be, so photos of my 69 year old relatively fit body, thanks to the fact that I have worked out my entire life don't do much to inspire young people who cannot imagine living to be my age.
On another note, I think I am finally reconciled to the fact that genetically I am destined to be a lean guy. A month away from the gym and I have lost weight. Most folks gain weight when they don't work out.
I am not inclined to adopt Galeniko's diet, but I do admire his abs and general ripped condition. My life has been defined my moderation not extremes, and this really applies to diet and PED's. So I have never been, nor will I ever be a muscle freak superhero like I once hoped, but it is all good. At some point we learn to appreciate just being healthy.
Galeniko's videos are great fun to watch. He should give up the cigarettes though. I have personal experience with how they will ruin your health....are you reading this Galeniko?
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Where can I torrent this???
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He already said he looks like shit and blamed it on a car accident.
missed that
doesn't excuse the aggressive you are a fag to ask for my pic shit
why doesn't he post pics pre car accident
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missed that
doesn't excuse the aggressive you are a fag to ask for my pic shit
why doesn't he post pics pre car accident
Not sure. ???
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I can take a picture and show you .
12%bf is fucking fat. over 10% bf is considered fat for a male...shit didn't charles poliquin once say If your over 12% bf and a woman, your considered fat?
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a lot of guys have no idea how to measure bodyfat...the difference between fat and water....how you carry fat. I see threads all the time where enhanced guys post pics looking 9% bf and guys sit here telling them they are 12% bf lol. you see guys telling people they are 8% bf when they are closer to 6-7%
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12%bf is fucking fat. over 10% bf is considered fat for a male...shit didn't charles poliquin once say If your over 12% bf and a woman, your considered fat?
What's your point?
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shifted into maintenance mode
still eating two meals but increased the portions of meat
still getting harder and more detailed - strength up
still haven't grown calves or foreams >:(
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shifted into maintenance mode
still eating two meals but increased the portions of meat
still getting harder and more detailed - strength up
still haven't grown calves or foreams >:(
NICE JOB GOOD SEPERATION DUDE..
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good legs