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Nova Uniao flyweight fighter Leandro Souza passed away while cutting weight Thursday for Friday's Shooto Brazil 43 card in Rio de Janeiro. Souza reportedly passed out at the weigh ins, and was transported to the hospital, where he was declared dead.
Nova Uniao founder and Shooto Brazil president Andre Pederneiras announced the tragic news, via his Facebook.
"It is with great regret that we hereby report the death of the Leandro Caetano de Souza. The athlete died in Botafogo, Rio de Janeiro. The reasons are not yet known. We would like to express condolences to all friends and family."
Further details will be posted as they come available, but the story is an old, tragic one.
Cutting weight hard had been a staple of collegiate and high school wrestling programs for generations. Then, late in 1997, three wrestlers died in a month. SI had the story:
He died crawling to the scale. Glassy-eyed and pale, his legs too weak to hold him after he had shed nearly 17 pounds in three days, Jeff Reese collapsed and expired on the cold floor of a locker room in Crisler Arena on Dec. 9 in Ann Arbor.
Reese, a junior at Michigan trying to make weight in the 150-pound class for a wrestling meet against Michigan State, spent the last two hours of his life in a plastic suit, riding a stationary bike in a room in which the heat was cranked up to 92. He was the third college wrestler to die in 33 days. Billy Jack Saylor, a freshman at Campbell University in Buies Creek, N.C., and Joseph LaRosa, a senior at Wisconsin-La Crosse, died in November while cutting weight. Though the official causes of their deaths varied, Reese, Saylor and LaRosa died of the same thing: the self-inflicted torture of drastic weight loss, college wrestling's ugly secret.
Read entire article...
In response to the three deaths, the NCAA took a number of steps to make wrestling safer, including:
•Banning training in a room hotter than 80 degrees:
•Banning self-induced vomiting;
•Banning extensive food or fluid restrictions;
•Requiring hydration tests:
•Requiring body fat checks; and,
•Restricting the amount of weight that can be lost.
Following the NCAA's lead, high schools too instituted a variety of precautions.
Now, attorney Erik Magraken in his CanadianMMALawBlog.com argues that Mixed Martial Arts should not wait for three deaths in 33 days due to weight cutting.
It is important to introduce forward thinking legislation instead of waiting for a tragedy to occur before bringing legal change. This leads to today’s topic, rapid weight loss in combat sports and foreseeable tragedy.
MMA, as with all weight-restricted sports, comes with a risk that athletes will subject themselves to rapid weight loss techniques in order to make their fighting weight. These ‘brutal weight cuts’ are well documented at MMA’s highest level. This in turn leads to many MMA athletes fighting in a dehydrated state. This comes with increased risk of fighter injury including increased risk of traumatic brain injury. With this in mind it is worth examining the justification for weight classes in the first place and discuss whether fights following rapid weight loss should be tolerated.
As MMA has grown in popularity so has legislative oversight of the sport. These two developments go hand in hand with a proper legal framework helping legitimize the sport in turn creating a foundation on which the sport can grow. One of the first regulatory developments which has helped legitimize MMA in the public’s eye was the introduction of weight classes. At their core, weight classes exist for fighter safety. The risk of injury grows with weight discrepancy among athletes.
Appreciating that fighter safety is the core reason behind weight classes, rapid weight loss is a phenomenon that needs to be addressed. Failing to address this issue undermines the entire foundation underlying weight classes.
Studies show that rapid weight cutting (ie- more than 5% of body weight) lead to increased participant injury risk in combat sports. As noted by Dr. Benjamin, a simple solution to address this issue is to require certain weight metrics from 30 days out from a fight.
The MMA community should not wait for a tragedy to occur, as did in the 1990′s with NCAA wrestling, before addressing this issue. Unless safeguards are built in some athletes will continue to undertake dangerous methods to make weight. Stakeholders in the MMA community, be it event organizers or legislative bodies, should take proactive steps to address this reality. Not only will this result in competition more reflective of an athlete’s ‘true’ weight, it will promote fighter safety.
Which jurisdiction or organization will have the foresight and initiative to address this issue first?
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http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/439049/Fighter-in-Brazil-dies-from-cutting-weight
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R.I.P.
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17 lbs in 3 days? wow
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17 lbs in 3 days? wow
How does that even happen?
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How does that even happen?
MMA has become a lot like college wrestling. You want to get in the lowest weight class possible, so you can be the bigger fighter. Sadly, this is a by-product. R.I.P.
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How much did he weigh before cutting weight?
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hope that was worth it
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Sad.
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why you copy my death brah
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What happens? The heart gets taxed from lack of hydration?
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well, it depends, if he used diuretics, it can be so many indirect related issues.
but yeah diuretics when dehydrated is bit dangerous.
drop dead dangerous, not "might get bitch tits"-dangerous
Diuretics are tested. It's not diuretics anyway.
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Over and over again I preach to every fighter at every MMA seminar I have given around the country, I have always said there is ZERO reason to dehydrate if you know when the fight is. It's an old school 1950's wrestling mentality. I NEVER take a fighter that's less than 8 weeks out and that even depends on where their weight is. This fighter's weigh in is tomorrow, he not once had to cut water is 2lbs below his fight weight. When everyone else is suffering to make weigh, he'll be drinking and eating right up to the weigh in. Plus he's stronger now than he was the day he started his camp..
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Over and over again I preach to every fighter at every MMA seminar I have given around the country, I have always said there is ZERO reason to dehydrate if you know when the fight is. It's an old school 1950's wrestling mentality. I NEVER take a fighter that's less than 8 weeks out and that even depends on where their weight is. This fighter's weigh in is tomorrow, he not once had to cut water is 2lbs below his fight weight. When everyone else is suffering to make weigh, he'll be drinking and eating right up to the weigh in. Plus he's stronger now than he was the day he started his camp..
do you ever preach to these black fighters about your racism ???
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What happens? The heart gets taxed from lack of hydration?
Organ failure. Everything begins to shutdown without that life sustaining h2o. Everything red lines until something gives out. If they happen to get you to the hospital soon enough you'll still be going through kidney failure.
Weight cutting is particularly hard on the kidneys.
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do you ever preach to these black fighters about your racism ???
Unless you have something of significants to contribute, I suggest you stfu.
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Organ failure. Everything begins to shutdown without that life sustaining h2o. Everything red lines until something gives out. If they happen to get you to the hospital soon enough you'll still be going through kidney failure.
Weight cutting is particularly hard on the kidneys.
These people know when the fight is fom 8 weeks out right?
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Unless you have something of significants to contribute, I suggest you stfu.
Hahaa , holy shit Nails , are you gonna take that ?
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Unless you have something of significants to contribute, I suggest you stfu.
he probably didn't have medical insurance to go to the doctor monitor his heart
Obamacare would have saved his life
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These people know when the fight is fom 8 weeks out right?
MMA is very young sport. It's also very injury prone. You can get a call at any time and often for multiple divisions.
You can always say no tho. It's just they wont be calling you after that unless you're a big name.
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he probably didn't have medical insurance to go to the doctor monitor his heart
Obamacare would have saved his life
You do realize that this happened in brazil where they have a socialized universal healthcare system, right?
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its worth pointing out that the flyweight division is the 112s. meaning his 17lb were, in all likelihood, almost 15% of his bodyweight, the same as a 200lb guy trying to lose 30lb in three days, which is insane, ESPECIALLY at that level of leanness.
bigger guys can drop 10-15lb of water in a day and soak it back up no problem, but a little guy like that trying to crunch down that far is just asking for trouble.
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Over and over again I preach to every fighter at every MMA seminar I have given around the country, I have always said there is ZERO reason to dehydrate if you know when the fight is. It's an old school 1950's wrestling mentality. I NEVER take a fighter that's less than 8 weeks out and that even depends on where their weight is. This fighter's weigh in is tomorrow, he not once had to cut water is 2lbs below his fight weight. When everyone else is suffering to make weigh, he'll be drinking and eating right up to the weigh in. Plus he's stronger now than he was the day he started his camp..
you obviously don't understand WHY they do it that way. it's for weight advantage, and high-level athletes are very, very good at it, be they fighters or powerlifters or whatever. yes, there's suffering involved for a short period of time, but you're not going to burn off muscle during that short period of time and unless you have to step on the scale a half hour before the event you have plenty of time to get your electrolytes back.
It's not a matter of not being able to diet down hard enough. these guys intentionally maintain a weight 10-ish pounds over their weight class, then drop 10lb of water, skate in under the cutoff, and come back for the event back up at their normal weight. there are stories of record-breaking lifters weighing over 180lb managing to squeeze into the 165s (oleksander kutcher springs to mind).
so while your guy is all happy that he's fighting at 2lb under with no cutting, his opponent is going to be 10lb OVER the weight class once he gets his water back in. meaning your guy is, in all likelihood, giving up 10 pounds of muscle to his opponent all because you thought the situation was that they just didn't diet hard enough early enough. oops.
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its worth pointing out that the flyweight division is the 112s. meaning his 17lb were, in all likelihood, almost 15% of his bodyweight, the same as a 200lb guy trying to lose 30lb in three days, which is insane, ESPECIALLY at that level of leanness.
bigger guys can drop 10-15lb of water in a day and soak it back up no problem, but a little guy like that trying to crunch down that far is just asking for trouble.
Yeah I was thinking the same, 17 lbs for a MMA fighter is a lot of weight!
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Over and over again I preach to every fighter at every MMA seminar I have given around the country, I have always said there is ZERO reason to dehydrate if you know when the fight is. It's an old school 1950's wrestling mentality. I NEVER take a fighter that's less than 8 weeks out and that even depends on where their weight is. This fighter's weigh in is tomorrow, he not once had to cut water is 2lbs below his fight weight. When everyone else is suffering to make weigh, he'll be drinking and eating right up to the weigh in. Plus he's stronger now than he was the day he started his camp..
So, what would Silva weigh when he actually gets in the cage? He fights in 185, but, looking at him, I would think he was a 205lb fighter.
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So, what would Silva weigh when he actually gets in the cage? He fights in 185, but, looking at him, I would think he was a 205lb fighter.
he may very well be 200 when he actually fights. that's the whole reason these guys do it, so they can fight heavier than the weight cutoff. it's not being lazy with dieting, it's VERY strategic.
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Over and over again I preach to every fighter at every MMA seminar I have given around the country, I have always said there is ZERO reason to dehydrate if you know when the fight is. It's an old school 1950's wrestling mentality. I NEVER take a fighter that's less than 8 weeks out and that even depends on where their weight is. This fighter's weigh in is tomorrow, he not once had to cut water is 2lbs below his fight weight. When everyone else is suffering to make weigh, he'll be drinking and eating right up to the weigh in. Plus he's stronger now than he was the day he started his camp..
Word on the street is that coach tells the black fighter to take off his shorts so he can be sure how much he weighs, then he tell him to bend down and touch his toes it will make his legs weigh less, heard that some people are uncomfortable with this kind of coaching.
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you obviously don't understand WHY they do it that way. it's for weight advantage, and high-level athletes are very, very good at it, be they fighters or powerlifters or whatever. yes, there's suffering involved for a short period of time, but you're not going to burn off muscle during that short period of time and unless you have to step on the scale a half hour before the event you have plenty of time to get your electrolytes back.
It's not a matter of not being able to diet down hard enough. these guys intentionally maintain a weight 10-ish pounds over their weight class, then drop 10lb of water, skate in under the cutoff, and come back for the event back up at their normal weight. there are stories of record-breaking lifters weighing over 180lb managing to squeeze into the 165s (oleksander kutcher springs to mind).
so while your guy is all happy that he's fighting at 2lb under with no cutting, his opponent is going to be 10lb OVER the weight class once he gets his water back in. meaning your guy is, in all likelihood, giving up 10 pounds of muscle to his opponent all because you thought the situation was that they just didn't diet hard enough early enough. oops.
I've been training fighters for almost 9 years. I understand.
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So, what would Silva weigh when he actually gets in the cage? He fights in 185, but, looking at him, I would think he was a 205lb fighter.
1. It's more complex that what magoo thinks.
2. Jay has instructions from me (as with any fighter) to not enter the octagon or whatever, no more than 8-10 lbs more than what they weighed.
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I've never cut weight before. Do your energy levels recover enough to actually go hard in a fight? I can't imagine, after dropping 'x' number of pounds in the last few days that you'd recover well enough to perform well, ever after rehydrating.
But I've never experienced it.
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Diuretics of piss.
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How much did he weigh before cutting weight?
18 pounds
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I cut 12lbs in 3days for a powerlifting show a few weeks back, thank you pgcl
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I dont want to blame a dead person.
But why boxers and other fighter do this stupid thing?
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I dont want to blame a dead person.
But why boxers and other fighter do this stupid thing?
Bbers are so much smarter aren't they?
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Bbers are so much smarter aren't they?
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mmm you are right. :-\
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you obviously don't understand WHY they do it that way. it's for weight advantage, and high-level athletes are very, very good at it, be they fighters or powerlifters or whatever. yes, there's suffering involved for a short period of time, but you're not going to burn off muscle during that short period of time and unless you have to step on the scale a half hour before the event you have plenty of time to get your electrolytes back.
It's not a matter of not being able to diet down hard enough. these guys intentionally maintain a weight 10-ish pounds over their weight class, then drop 10lb of water, skate in under the cutoff, and come back for the event back up at their normal weight. there are stories of record-breaking lifters weighing over 180lb managing to squeeze into the 165s (oleksander kutcher springs to mind).
so while your guy is all happy that he's fighting at 2lb under with no cutting, his opponent is going to be 10lb OVER the weight class once he gets his water back in. meaning your guy is, in all likelihood, giving up 10 pounds of muscle to his opponent all because you thought the situation was that they just didn't diet hard enough early enough. oops.
That only matters if you care about winning...ooops!? :D
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do you ever preach to these black fighters about your racism ???
;D
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Dehydration.
I've lost 15 pounds in 24 hours before, all water.
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You can't monitor the heart and kidneys with acute severe dehydration. The organs will show nothing prior to the 24hr dehydration. The danger is the % of water loss. The kidneys are most at risk.
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Dehydration.
I've lost 15 pounds in 24 hours before, all water.
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but you and okami are bbers, I guess you usually hold tons of water and you have more muscle/fat to loss.
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17 lbs in 3 days? wow
i wrestled in high school (so homo) and guys would regularly drop 10 pounds every week for a match like it was nothing. I had to drop 5 pounds a few times. Not a huge deal, but when you're only 119 pounds lol, that's a decent % of body weight.
I can't see 17 pounds in 3 days being that huge of a thing for pro fighters - although medically I'm sure it is a huge deal, what is going on inside the body
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probably just gave him water after weighins and thought he would be fine. when he really needed potassium and sodium to restore the electrolyte balance in the blood..
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If you cut more than a few pounds over what you normally fluctuate in a day, your strength suffers tremendously. I don't know what compels these guys to try cutting so much weight at the last moment. Their performance will suffer. So any strength and endurance they might have had will be sapped by their cut. Doesn't make sense.
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RIP! I think the amount cut greatly depends on the individuals build. I use to cut for MMA and grappling contests. I would cut from around 208 to 190 in a day. Maybe I was just lucky to be able to safely do it, but for me it was all about eating the right foods leading up to the cut, then restricting water intake and no food for the day of weigh-ins. I'd usually walk jog with garbage bags taped to me to help me sweat.
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What happens? The heart gets taxed from lack of hydration?
my guess is electrolyte imbalance. potassium controls heart function, and too much in relation to sodium will stop the heart. it is the imbalance more than the drop in weight. many of the diuretics are potassium sparing, which can really mess things up.
I don't know too much about it, but if someone were attempting suicide, potassium overdose is the most gaurenteed way to do it.
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my guess is electrolyte imbalance. potassium controls heart function, and too much in relation to sodium will stop the heart. it is the imbalance more than the drop in weight. many of the diuretics are potassium sparing, which can really mess things up.
I don't know too much about it, but if someone were attempting suicide, potassium overdose is the most gaurenteed way to do it.
I think tbombz tried it by eating 40 bananas in 30 minutes or maybe he was practicing for another stuff I don't know.
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rip
very dangerous
joe riggs cuts a lot of weight
thought he was going to die against matt hughes
lots of people do it though
tito, rampage, etc
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When I dieted last year, I would about 45 minutes on the stair master twice a day with a stocking cap and sweatshirt. Using a bunch of ECA. Then drink Powerade zero and water like mad right after. It worked real well, but I was eating a lot of clean food do, drinking a ton of green tea with Splenda, etc.
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I am hyper-sensitive to diuretics. in this pic Wednesday before a show I was 237lbs. one aldactone a day for three days and I weighed in at 212 on Friday.
I lose all my intramuscular water and look like shit. all hardness and vascularity is gone. then by sunday I was back to 238.
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my guess is electrolyte imbalance. potassium controls heart function, and too much in relation to sodium will stop the heart. it is the imbalance more than the drop in weight. many of the diuretics are potassium sparing, which can really mess things up.
I don't know too much about it, but if someone were attempting suicide, potassium overdose is the most gaurenteed way to do it.
It's all of that and more. It's literally traumatic to the body if anything is abruptly disrupted, it's a shock to the CNS, kills conditioning and since muscle is roughly 65-75% water it wipes out strength and muscular endurance. When you cut calories that much you'll use the muscle before the fat for an energy source. Even though pro's have a full day to rehydrate before the fight, your body cannot recover that quickly. You might feel fine and strong but the reality is, you're not and conditioning suffers during the fight.
Three times I had to bring Jay down (against my will) 25 - 30lbs in the course of 10-13 days because he was taking fights at the last minute. One was Leben, one with CB Dollaway and the other was Hector Lombard (had to have a catch weight). It was hell and dangerous. It was shortly after that started not taking fighters for last minute fights.
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I am hyper-sensitive to diuretics. in this pic Wednesday before a show I was 237lbs. one aldactone a day for three days and I weighed in at 212 on Friday.
I lose all my intramuscular water and look like shit. all hardness and vascularity is gone. then by sunday I was back to 238.
Damn dude, that's beast mode.
I've never used diuretics
Some people can handle different things.
Like I said above, I would those 45 min sessions wearing heavy clothes. Usually alternated a few minutes back and forth at 60-90 steps per min. Sometimes I felt really good and did 70-100. I also played one step per up and down type games.
I weighed 2-3 lbs less every time. That is in 45 minutes, and I was never hurting.
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James Irvin addicted to pain killers and meth
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my guess is electrolyte imbalance. potassium controls heart function, and too much in relation to sodium will stop the heart. it is the imbalance more than the drop in weight. many of the diuretics are potassium sparing, which can really mess things up.
I don't know too much about it, but if someone were attempting suicide, potassium overdose is the most gaurenteed way to do it.
i remember driving to atlanta for some pusssy when i was 18 and i took like 10 or more potassium pills then smoked a fat blunt on my ride back...i totally fucking blacked out when driving back and barely managed to pull over. i remember being high as fuck then vision got fuzzy as shit then my vision totally went black then i pulled over waiting for my vision to return back to normal quite a scary experience, i never wouldve been afriad of potassium at the time
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I've been training fighters for almost 9 years. I understand.
9 years...of fail. What's even funnier is you giving mma seminars...funny like a clown.
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i remember driving to atlanta for some pusssy when i was 18 and i took like 10 or more potassium pills then smoked a fat blunt on my ride back...i totally fucking blacked out when driving back and barely managed to pull over. i remember being high as fuck then vision got fuzzy as shit then my vision totally went black then i pulled over waiting for my vision to return back to normal quite a scary experience, i never wouldve been afriad of potassium at the time
The things we have done for hoes I just thinking about that yesterday. An amazing feat Johhny Atl is 5 hours out. You got to have sodium and potassium balanced out one of the other too much the positive you gonna have trouble.
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9 years...of fail. What's even funnier is you giving mma seminars...funny like a clown.
And even funnier than that is a gimmick talking shit behind a key board even after MULTIPLE invitations to come meet me and settle your bullshit once and for all or won't your mommy give you permission. I'll ask her if you want....she's right here!
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I think tbombz tried it by eating 40 bananas in 30 minutes or maybe he was practicing for another stuff I don't know.
lol
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Every OLYMPic wrestler and top MMA fighter walks around 20 to 30+ pounds over their fight night weight. They do this because it fukcing works PERIOD. Some light heavies walk around 230+ pounds most of the year and even compete close to that weight come fight night when they weighed around 205 the day before. Not only is it a physical thing but the psychological effect it has is something you can't possible get from people who never fought and only started flipping tires when they seen it on TV just a few years ago...
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And even funnier than that is a gimmick talking shit behind a key board even after MULTIPLE invitations to come meet me and settle your bullshit once and for all or won't your mommy give you permission. I'll ask her if you want....she's right here!
If I get out your way, I'll stop in to the empty storage unit. Are you buying lunch?
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Coach is right Tito and Rampage are 250 +
they should be HW's
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Every OLYMPic wrestler and top MMA fighter walks around 20 to 30+ pounds over their fight night weight. They do this because it fukcing works PERIOD. Some light heavies walk around 230+ pounds most of the year and even compete close to that weight come fight night when they weighed around 205 the day before. Not only is it a physical thing but the psychological effect it has is something you can't possible get from people who never fought and only started flipping tires when they seen it on TV just a few years ago...
What do mean it works? They walk around that heavy because they're lazy. There are effective ways, that ain't one of them.
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I am hyper-sensitive to diuretics. in this pic Wednesday before a show I was 237lbs. one aldactone a day for three days and I weighed in at 212 on Friday.
I lose all my intramuscular water and look like shit. all hardness and vascularity is gone. then by sunday I was back to 238.
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Maybe i should use Aldactone!
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It's all of that and more. It's literally traumatic to the body if anything is abruptly disrupted, it's a shock to the CNS, kills conditioning and since muscle is roughly 65-75% water it wipes out strength and muscular endurance. When you cut calories that much you'll use the muscle before the fat for an energy source. Even though pro's have a full day to rehydrate before the fight, your body cannot recover that quickly. You might feel fine and strong but the reality is, you're not and conditioning suffers during the fight.
Three times I had to bring Jay down (against my will) 25 - 30lbs in the course of 10-13 days because he was taking fights at the last minute. One was Leben, one with CB Dollaway and the other was Hector Lombard (had to have a catch weight). It was hell and dangerous. It was shortly after that started not taking fighters for last minute fights.
Nobody really wants to pay attention to these things. As trainers, we are basically depleting our clients on some level, albeit minute, it still has it's liabilities.
Depleting slowly and never reducing water intake is a pretty intelligent way to go.
With some people, not just fighters, but maybe a woman that wants to slam into a wedding dress in less than 24 hours, it can get extreme. I don't like doing it either but sometimes that is what we are paid to do.
And I sure as hell wouldn't do it with Aldactazide or any other prescription DIEuretic.
I have "special" liability waivers that have to be signed for these folks and I do explain what might go wrong during the process. It's funny what lengths people will go to.
I would have to say that every time I am forced to deplete someone quickly, it is most definitely against my better judgement.
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Maybe i should use Aldactone!
a bantamweight I knew took three a day from Monday to Friday and barely lost 3 lbs. to make weight. I take three total and lose 25 frikkin pounds.
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Medical uses in Obese people... NOT bodybuilders!
Diuretics, work by affecting the way the kidneys filter the blood. Some of them block the ability of the kidneys to reabsorb sodium and/or potassium, which also pulls extra water into the urine. Others increase the rate at which urine flows through the kidneys. Regardless of their mechanism, water pills increase the amount of water lost through the urine and often are used to treat high blood pressure, kidney disease and congestive heart failure, the Texas Heart Institute explains. Because they eliminate water from the body, they may also cause short-term weight loss ~
Dehydration!
One of the most prominent dangers of taking diuretics is dehydration. Because these medications increase urine output, they can cause your body to become depleted of water. Early symptoms of dehydration include increased thirst, headaches and dizziness. Diuretics also can cause your blood pressure to become dangerously low from decreased blood volume. Finally, dehydration can exacerbate gout, as the loss of water from the body can cause crystals of uric acid to build up in the joints.
The Sodium/Potassium pump... do you know what that is? Electrolytes, do you know what they are and what role they play in making your heart beat on an involuntary basis? It's not like voluntarily flexing your non-existent bicep.
Electrolyte Imbalance
Electrolytes are substances that have an electrical charge when they are dissolved in water and have an important role in the function of nerves, muscles and other tissues. Taking water pills can cause you to develop abnormally low concentrations of these electrolytes because of increased excretion in the urine. One kind of diuretic, known as loop diuretics, can cause you to lose sodium through your urine, Cardiovascular Pharmacology Concepts explains. Thiazide diuretics, another type of water pill, can cause to you become depleted of potassium. The loss of these electrolytes can cause muscle cramping and an irregular heartbeat.
Diuretics do not cause you to burn extra calories or lose fat; instead, the weight loss they cause is entirely water.
Here's another thing to consider. There are a number of bodybuilders that DID DIE and a number of them that CAME CLOSE TO DYING because of diuretics.
They can also be addictive, not like weed, opiates, benzos or alcohol, but more like juice, yeah... fruit juice ::)
You can get hooked on the way they make you look, all the while your body is suffering like a mofo inside.
Educate yourselves. Why don't we start a thread on DNP and all of its fans?
Crazy mentality us humans have at times... more often than not.
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It's all of that and more. It's literally traumatic to the body if anything is abruptly disrupted, it's a shock to the CNS, kills conditioning and since muscle is roughly 65-75% water it wipes out strength and muscular endurance. When you cut calories that much you'll use the muscle before the fat for an energy source. Even though pro's have a full day to rehydrate before the fight, your body cannot recover that quickly. You might feel fine and strong but the reality is, you're not and conditioning suffers during the fight.
Three times I had to bring Jay down (against my will) 25 - 30lbs in the course of 10-13 days because he was taking fights at the last minute. One was Leben, one with CB Dollaway and the other was Hector Lombard (had to have a catch weight). It was hell and dangerous. It was shortly after that started not taking fighters for last minute fights.
A lot of the top guys are into blood loading(doping)...Joe Rogan admitted who knew of guys doing it...24 hours is more than enough time when doing this...Military special forces do this shit...
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In 1993, U.S. Special Forces commanders at Fort Bragg started experimenting with blood doping, also known as blood loading. Special Forces operators would provide two units of whole blood, from which red blood cells would be extracted, concentrated, and stored under cold temperatures. 24 hours before a mission or battle, a small amount of red blood cells would be infused back into the soldier. Military scientists believe that the procedure increases the soldiers’s endurance and alertness because of the increase in the blood's capability to carry oxygen.
In 1998, the Australian Defence Forces approved this technique for the Special Air Service Regiment. Senior nutritionist at the Australian Defence Science and Technology Organization Chris Forbes-Ewan is quoted as saying that, unlike in sport, "all's fair in love and war." "What we are trying to gain is an advantage over any potential adversary," Forbes-Ewan said.[25] In this study, over 50 performance-enhancing drugs and techniques were rejected. The six that were approved are caffeine, ephedrine, energy drinks, modafinil, creatine, and blood-loading
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Second round KO over the KSW champion. No dehydration, drinking 1/2-1 gallon of water + eating at weigh-ins.
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a bantamweight I knew took three a day from Monday to Friday and barely lost 3 lbs. to make weight. I take three total and lose 25 frikkin pounds.
Hmm weird, wonder how many pounds i'd lose!
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Unless you have something of significants to contribute, I suggest you stfu.
thanks so much for not responding to my pms a while back when i needed advice on my injury
also thanks for agreeing to come to ct to train me and u never followed up on your offer
thanks coach
but im glad u are making lots of money