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I train at the same gym as Vic in Bronx, NY. Apparently the word is he is close to partnering in a new gym opening some time in April 2006
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hope it goes well for him this time
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I'd like to pre-pay for the first 5 years, just so I don't have to worry about making payments each month.
Nothing like a sound investment!!!
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I train at the same gym as Vic in Bronx, NY. Apparently the word is he is close to partnering in a new gym opening some time in April 2006
great, what's the location ?
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I presume Fred Bigot is not his partner in this venture.
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I presume Fred Bigot is not his partner in this venture.
He wasn't his partner in the first venture.
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If true, this is laughable and an affront to every paying gym goer everywhere. >:( I hope the people/partners opening this gym are not dumb enough to use Vic’s name in connection with this new venture.
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Oh Gawd, anyone wanna take bets on how long this one lasts? I got 9 months.
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I am pre-paying for the next ten years because i am 100% sure that his gym will still be around not.
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This sounds great. I'm gonna buy a $3,000 lifetime membership.
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Did Vic ever fess up or make any apologies for taking memberships the day before closing?
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This sounds great. I'm gonna buy a $3,000 lifetime membership.
If you were a member of Vic's Old Gym, they will give you a $5 discount on the $3,000 lifetime membership, so your total cost will be only $2,995.
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i used to go to victor's gym before it closed. i renewed my membership 4 months before it closed too.
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i renewed my membership 4 months before it closed too.
I live beside the Brooklyn Bridge. Would you like to make a down payment on it?
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hope it goes well for him this time
Define "well" ;D
YIP
Zack
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great, what's the location ?
It's underground, you have to ring up 2 hours before known opening time each day, as it changes each day.
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Define "well" ;D
YIP
Zack
Err.. get it running for 6 months before closing it down?
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If you were a member of Vic's Old Gym, they will give you a $5 discount on the $3,000 lifetime membership, so your total cost will be only $2,995.
well in that case count me in!
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maybe this time he wont get busted for drugs or even sell drugs out of this gym like he did the old one.
kinda wierd, but you're an ifbb pro with a contract and you own your own gym, which the word was that it was a nice place and doing farely well, then you're busted for selling drugs???
anyways, he's overated as it is.
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The gym location is Manhatten....Exact location hasn't been decided yet...I would guess anywhere but uptown ( Dyckman st - Crown Heights)..Piss poor, Crack neighborhood!
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thanks silent..I know I will get slammed but I think Vic and Tammy are just very nice people..
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thanks silent..I know I will get slammed but I think Vic and Tammy are just very nice people..
yeah, nice people rip people off all the time. ::)
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Moms - I couldnt care less what others think...I think Vic is a pretty cool dude.....Im not great friends with him, but he's always been a nice guy to me and my boys...
Perhaps he's success will allow him to make good in regards to he's past!
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you know what they say, karmas a bitch.
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i used to go to victor's gym before it closed. i renewed my membership 4 months before it closed too.
If you go to Vic with that past receipt, your membership will be honored at the new spot.
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I train at the same gym as Vic in Bronx, NY. Apparently the word is he is close to partnering in a new gym opening some time in April 2006
...Good for him. I'm sure he's learned from mistakes made in the past. Everyone deserves a 2nd chance. (If you don't beleive this, then just ask the folks who voted for George W. again. ::))
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As good a BB as Vic is, he seems like another Cormier or Titus to me. Trouble seems to follow him around. You are just waiting for the next drama.
That said, I do hope things work out for him and that members of his old gym that lost money can join for free. The least he can do. :-\
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I live beside the Brooklyn Bridge. Would you like to make a down payment on it?
Pumper is the Crook from the Brook? :-[
DIV
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Yea maybe the second time around he'll learn to rip off his members more discreet.
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yeah, nice people rip people off all the time. ::)
well, he never did anything wrong to me and I dont know his side of the story.
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Yeah trouble does seem to follow him but hes awesome I hope this gym goes well
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Why would anyone join a gym a pay upfront for a years memebership?
Just pay by the month out of your account and if the gym folds you haven't lost more than a month's worth of membership.
If your gym is pushing an unrealistic special then chances are they are in trouble.
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business fail everyday
why make it so personal lol
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I guess this proves there are suckers born every minute.
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I'll be goping when it opens up.
Freak :)
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I'll be goping when it opens up.
Freak :)
goping?!?!?!?!?(is that gay slang for checking out Victors ass?)
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goping?!?!?!?!?(is that gay slang for checking out Victors ass?)
is it big i've never seen it
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if u meant "going" there freak................... . i wouldnt if i was you
Victors last gym was very hardcore (no room for 150 lb bantamweights getting in the big boys way)
sorry freak................... ..............try BALLY'S or CURVES
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don't forget the fatty boys.
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if u meant "going" there freak................... . i wouldnt if i was you
Victors last gym was very hardcore (no room for 150 lb bantamweights getting in the big boys way)
sorry freak................... ..............try BALLY'S or CURVES
Load of shit Mike, all the pics from his gym always showed randoms in no shape
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Load of shit Mike, all the pics from his gym always showed randoms in no shape
i apologize............fre ak could rack weights/sweep up/spot people there
maybe he could work his way up to the juice bar..................... ...
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Victors last gym was very hardcore (no room for 150 lb bantamweights getting in the big boys way)
I don't think it was very "hardcore". They had DJs, dance parties and alot of B.S. aerobics classes there at night.
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I hate when fanboys say things like "Vic was always nice to me." No one is accusing Vic of being a nasty guy. In fact, he is a "nice" guy. He'll say hi to you, take a picture with you, shake hands, even give you the man-hug that's so popular these days. WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH RIPPING PEOPLE OFF??
I guess it depends on your definition of nice. I think everyone who's met Kamali would say he's a nice guy too, but he has a lot more detractors on this board than Vic does and Kamali's never ripped anyone off or done time in the slammer.
You can't open a gym in Manhattan (real Manhattan below 125th street, not Washington Heights which is crack central) these days and expect hardcore lifters to be your bread and butter. Don't know any hardcore lifters who can afford Manhattan rents (about $2500/mo for a 1BR)...usually you need a real job to be able to afford that kinda change. So you're talking about the B&Ters who live in Jersey, Brooklyn and da Bronx paying $600/mo rent to come to the hardcore gyms and they can't afford $1500/year memberships they charge at Equinox and LA Sports Club or even New York Sports Club.
Bottom Line: Expect the next gym to be yet another money-laundering, drug-dealing venture solely designed to hide illegally obtained income from the IRS and caring absolutely nothing about the suckers that pony up the cash to join.
By the way, if you got stuck with a useless membership at Vic's old gym, you can file a complaint with the Attorney general and the Dept of Consumer Affairs. All gyms are required to post a bond with the secretary of state and if they go out of business, you can make a claim for lost dues.
Special "Caveat Emptor" Ed
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You can't open a gym in Manhattan (real Manhattan below 125th street, not Washington Heights which is crack central) these days and expect hardcore lifters to be your bread and butter.
Excellent point. And how much is the lease payment on the building going to cost in high rent Manhattan? And then how many memberships are they going to have to sell just to cover that overhead? He couldn't afford the rent in Washington Heights, so how is he going to be able to pay for space in Manhattan?
Bottom Line: Expect the next gym to be yet another money-laundering, drug-dealing venture solely designed to hide illegally obtained income from the IRS
Special "Caveat Emptor" Ed
Its about time someone told the "real story" why bodybuilders own and operate gyms.
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ed is correct
email new york state attorney general elliot spitzer
if you have a beef
he's quite an extrordinary advocate for regular folks.
he will fucck em up good.
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i live in rochester now but i lived in inwood all my life. inwood is right above washington heights... some call it bronx-manhattan. anyway i went to victor's gym for a while and the highest the membership ever was was 250 a year. it was a pretty good gym but i always thought "how in the world he could stay open?" a gym had been opened in the same location right before victor's and the guy i think just took the money and ran. victor told me something like that. he was a nice guy. he gave me advice on stiff legged deadlifts one time and when the gym shut down i had stoppped working out for a few months. then i joined one called Astral fitness 3 subway stops away further uptown.... bronx. the memebership there was 400 a year. and they've been open a long time. the thing about these inexpensive gyms is that they want you to pay the whole membership up front. i'm in Gold's now and it's 39 per month... i got a special or something.
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A lot of small independant gyms open without enough money in the bank to tide them over for the first 6 months when chances are they won't be breaking even yet.
A lot of them go for the $250 per year upfront m'ship to get quick cash but they'd be better off charging more and doing a month to month m'ship which will slowly build up to a pool of decent money each month you can rely on to pay the bills.
A lot of them lease brand new strength equipment when they should probably start out with some quality used equipment that would suffice for the first few years (most people wouldn't even care if it was used equipment so long as it works fine and the upholstery is in good shape).
Right now there is a 14 piece classic cybex circuit on ebay for less than 10 grand which is pretty good.
Victor should rent a smaller space, have no aerobics, put in as much cardio as he can afford and get some decent used strength and he'd probably make ends meet okay...
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A lot of small independant gyms open without enough money in the bank to tide them over for the first 6 months when chances are they won't be breaking even yet.
A lot of them go for the $250 per year upfront m'ship to get quick cash but they'd be better off charging more and doing a month to month m'ship which will slowly build up to a pool of decent money each month you can rely on to pay the bills.
A lot of them lease brand new strength equipment when they should probably start out with some quality used equipment that would suffice for the first few years (most people wouldn't even care if it was used equipment so long as it works fine and the upholstery is in good shape).
Right now there is a 14 piece classic cybex circuit on ebay for less than 10 grand which is pretty good.
Victor should rent a smaller space, have no aerobics, put in as much cardio as he can afford and get some decent used strength and he'd probably make ends meet okay...
Great advice. Too bad Victor is too dumb to follow it.
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GOOD LUCK VICTOR!!!
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i would have no problem working out in his gym, i just wouldn't ever want anyone from his gym calling my cell phone or house phone....
That thing would probably burst into flames it would be so hot...
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I'm in for a 6-month membership as long as I get a good price on weed. ;)
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New MD says he's out of the gym biz? ???
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New MD says he's out of the gym biz? ???
What's the rundown mate?
YIP
Zack
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kinda weird, but you're an ifbb pro with a contract...
What kind of 'contract'?
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What's the rundown mate?
YIP
Zack
In his column he was asked if he was going to open another gym and he said he was through with it. Lost too much on his last venture and gave him a lot of stress.
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In his column he was asked if he was going to open another gym and he said he was through with it. Lost too much on his last venture and gave him a lot of stress.
He's lying, he knows very well that the Olympia title is not anywhere in his immediate grasp, but lifetime gym memberships are easy money..
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well, he never did anything wrong to me and I dont know his side of the story.
UM YEAH...And Charles Manson didn't kill the other 2 MILLION people in Los Angeles, but ask those family members of those he did kill whether he was a nice guy? Maybe we should interview Manson and get his side of the story
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I'd like to pre-pay for the first 5 years, just so I don't have to worry about making payments each month.
Nothing like a sound investment!!!
hahaha if he ever did that to me I would go over his new gym and demand my money back and then proceed to give him an asskicking of a lifetime!
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I hope everybody got their refund.
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I hate when fanboys say things like "Vic was always nice to me." No one is accusing Vic of being a nasty guy. In fact, he is a "nice" guy. He'll say hi to you, take a picture with you, shake hands, even give you the man-hug that's so popular these days. WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH RIPPING PEOPLE OFF??
I guess it depends on your definition of nice. I think everyone who's met Kamali would say he's a nice guy too, but he has a lot more detractors on this board than Vic does and Kamali's never ripped anyone off or done time in the slammer.
You can't open a gym in Manhattan (real Manhattan below 125th street, not Washington Heights which is crack central) these days and expect hardcore lifters to be your bread and butter. Don't know any hardcore lifters who can afford Manhattan rents (about $2500/mo for a 1BR)...usually you need a real job to be able to afford that kinda change. So you're talking about the B&Ters who live in Jersey, Brooklyn and da Bronx paying $600/mo rent to come to the hardcore gyms and they can't afford $1500/year memberships they charge at Equinox and LA Sports Club or even New York Sports Club.
Bottom Line: Expect the next gym to be yet another money-laundering, drug-dealing venture solely designed to hide illegally obtained income from the IRS and caring absolutely nothing about the suckers that pony up the cash to join.
By the way, if you got stuck with a useless membership at Vic's old gym, you can file a complaint with the Attorney general and the Dept of Consumer Affairs. All gyms are required to post a bond with the secretary of state and if they go out of business, you can make a claim for lost dues.
Special "Caveat Emptor" Ed
WOW IT IS ALWAYS AMAZING TO ME TO HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT NEW YORK AND THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE
Last time I checked Manhattan went from Battery Park to 225th street. Manhattan doesn't begin or stop at or below 125th street...the most expensive real estate is now from 96th street to Inwood. While Vic may have closed his gym in his CREEP FASHION, he is by far not the only one to do so...and certainly the VAST MAJORITY of gyms that close and rip its members off are in Chelsea, the Village, East and West side where memberships are a grand or more. So far as a drug laundering facility...every single gym that opens..I don't care who and where they are..are fronts for drug laundering or money launderring. Gyms inherently do not raise enough money to survive and therefore must have a secret side operation to survive or it has to be a part of a large profitable business. So far as drugs go in any community...no community outdoes Midtown, the Upper east and west side and let us not even talk about the Chelsea, So Ho, Village Battery Park areas...sheesh. Children born in those areas are slapped on the ass and immediately given a line of coke to inhale...adults have never known a sober day in those areas. Forgeddahboutit. So far as claims to the attorney general goes...that only applies if the gym has placed a bond on itself to cover themselves and two that only applies to members who have purchased TWO OR MORE YEARS of membership at one time....something gyms do not do.
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WOW IT IS ALWAYS AMAZING TO ME TO HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT NEW YORK AND THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE
Last time I checked Manhattan went from Battery Park to 225th street. Manhattan doesn't begin or stop at or below 125th street...the most expensive real estate is now from 96th street to Inwood. While Vic may have closed his gym in his CREEP FASHION, he is by far not the only one to do so...and certainly the VAST MAJORITY of gyms that close and rip its members off are in Chelsea, the Village, East and West side where memberships are a grand or more. So far as a drug laundering facility...every single gym that opens..I don't care who and where they are..are fronts for drug laundering or money launderring. Gyms inherently do not raise enough money to survive and therefore must have a secret side operation to survive or it has to be a part of a large profitable business. So far as drugs go in any community...no community outdoes Midtown, the Upper east and west side and let us not even talk about the Chelsea, So Ho, Village Battery Park areas...sheesh. Children born in those areas are slapped on the ass and immediately given a line of coke to inhale...adults have never known a sober day in those areas. Forgeddahboutit. So far as claims to the attorney general goes...that only applies if the gym has placed a bond on itself to cover themselves and two that only applies to members who have purchased TWO OR MORE YEARS of membership at one time....something gyms do not do.
I doubt Bonham's Power Plant needs any side operation.
YIP
Zack
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ok seeing I live in the lower east side...i can yap my gums...samson i agree about the gyms but the drug use for kids is a bit overstated...
WOW IT IS ALWAYS AMAZING TO ME TO HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT NEW YORK AND THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE
Last time I checked Manhattan went from Battery Park to 225th street. Manhattan doesn't begin or stop at or below 125th street...the most expensive real estate is now from 96th street to Inwood. While Vic may have closed his gym in his CREEP FASHION, he is by far not the only one to do so...and certainly the VAST MAJORITY of gyms that close and rip its members off are in Chelsea, the Village, East and West side where memberships are a grand or more. So far as a drug laundering facility...every single gym that opens..I don't care who and where they are..are fronts for drug laundering or money launderring. Gyms inherently do not raise enough money to survive and therefore must have a secret side operation to survive or it has to be a part of a large profitable business. So far as drugs go in any community...no community outdoes Midtown, the Upper east and west side and let us not even talk about the Chelsea, So Ho, Village Battery Park areas...sheesh. Children born in those areas are slapped on the ass and immediately given a line of coke to inhale...adults have never known a sober day in those areas. Forgeddahboutit. So far as claims to the attorney general goes...that only applies if the gym has placed a bond on itself to cover themselves and two that only applies to members who have purchased TWO OR MORE YEARS of membership at one time....something gyms do not do.
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Hey I was just wondering if anybody in manhattan had checked out the new powerhouse on 42nd street? Im in gramercy and im in desperate need of a real gym these NYSCs are killing me lol
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WOW IT IS ALWAYS AMAZING TO ME TO HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT NEW YORK AND THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE
Last time I checked Manhattan went from Battery Park to 225th street. Manhattan doesn't begin or stop at or below 125th street...the most expensive real estate is now from 96th street to Inwood.
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My quote was real manhattan wiseguy and your statement about "the most expensive real estate" is a joke. 96th to Inwood may be a hot market, but it can't compare to real Manhattan prices. Obviously you're a renter in a rent-stabilized apartment. If you ever decide to buy, you can get a brownstone in Washington Heights for $500,000 or the same one in midtown for $5M.
I live here and I'm a real estate agent. So there.
Special "HPD Action" Ed
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WOW IT IS ALWAYS AMAZING TO ME TO HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT NEW YORK AND THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE
Last time I checked Manhattan went from Battery Park to 225th street. Manhattan doesn't begin or stop at or below 125th street...the most expensive real estate is now from 96th street to Inwood.
My quote was real manhattan wiseguy and your statement about "the most expensive real estate" is a joke. 96th to Inwood may be a hot market, but it can't compare to real Manhattan prices. Obviously you're a renter in a rent-stabilized apartment. If you ever decide to buy, you can get a brownstone in Washington Heights for $500,000 or the same one in midtown for $5M.
I live here and I'm a real estate agent. So there.
Special "HPD Action" Ed
I used to live on W82nd. I fled to the burbs in 98 fvck Manhattan
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ok im looking for a 2 bedroom in williamsburg area or any part in bklyn except bayridge, carnasie and bedstuy
WOW IT IS ALWAYS AMAZING TO ME TO HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT NEW YORK AND THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE
Last time I checked Manhattan went from Battery Park to 225th street. Manhattan doesn't begin or stop at or below 125th street...the most expensive real estate is now from 96th street to Inwood.
My quote was real manhattan wiseguy and your statement about "the most expensive real estate" is a joke. 96th to Inwood may be a hot market, but it can't compare to real Manhattan prices. Obviously you're a renter in a rent-stabilized apartment. If you ever decide to buy, you can get a brownstone in Washington Heights for $500,000 or the same one in midtown for $5M.
I live here and I'm a real estate agent. So there.
Special "HPD Action" Ed
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ok im looking for a 2 bedroom in williamsburg area or any part in bklyn except bayridge, carnasie and bedstuy
Red Hook is where its at. Williamsburg is overpriced. Try Ft Greene or Carroll Gardens.
Special "DUMBO" Ed
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he gave me advice on stiff legged deadlifts one time
hahaha! oh brother ::)
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WOW IT IS ALWAYS AMAZING TO ME TO HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT NEW YORK AND THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE
I lived in the Lower East side for 6 months, Chelsea for a year, then Washington Heights for 2 years. Worked in the Reuters Building in Times Square. Had enough and moved back to LA.
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WOW IT IS ALWAYS AMAZING TO ME TO HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT NEW YORK AND THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE
Last time I checked Manhattan went from Battery Park to 225th street. Manhattan doesn't begin or stop at or below 125th street...the most expensive real estate is now from 96th street to Inwood.
My quote was real manhattan wiseguy and your statement about "the most expensive real estate" is a joke. 96th to Inwood may be a hot market, but it can't compare to real Manhattan prices. Obviously you're a renter in a rent-stabilized apartment. If you ever decide to buy, you can get a brownstone in Washington Heights for $500,000 or the same one in midtown for $5M.
I live here and I'm a real estate agent. So there.
Special "HPD Action" Ed
gee ed i'd love to find a few single familys for 500 in washington heights. pm me your company. thanks.
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I see you still like to stalk me Super. It's okay. I hope I made your day.
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gee ed i'd love to find a few single familys for 500 in washington heights. pm me your company. thanks.
Send me a copy of your W-2 and bank statement so I can pre-qualify you.
SpecialEds@hotmail.com
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Send me a copy of your W-2 and bank statement so I can pre-qualify you.
SpecialEds@hotmail.com
lol oh yeah thought so...talkin out of your ass LOL