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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => History - Stories - and Memories => Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan Discussions => Topic started by: Cavalier22 on December 28, 2005, 10:48:52 PM
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They are both well known bodybuilder with supplement contracts. And together they only lived in a 407K house? Man think of how many BBers out there juice, do everything to put their health in jeopardy devote their life to BB and one of the few that made it to the pro's and actually was decent only could afford a 407K house even with his wife, an elite fitness pro, helping out too.
Vanity is what keeps this sport going. Its certainly not worth the risks and effort to make it to the big leagus.
And I am not talking about BB as a lifestyle, i mean competing/juicing etc
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Unlike Los Angeles, and other extremely overvalued high prices areas, you can buy a very nice house for $400K in Las Vegas. One of my friends is selling their townhome here in Los Angeles for $460K and have already looked at the houses in Vegas. For $400K, you can big house in a good neighborhood, whether that be Las Vegas, Summerlin or Green Valley.
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a $470,000 dollar house now probably cost around $250,000 or so to build a few years ago. And yes even back then a huge house can be built.
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around here 700 beautifully renovated sq ft is priced at 400,000
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Housing in Vegas is still pretty cheap, right? I know in Atlanta 400k will buy you real nice place, while 400k in South Fl ,gets you a townhouse.
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craig showed some of the house in battle for the O 2002...it did look pretty nice.
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Only 400K's a lot in Vegas-you can't make assumptions without knowing local market prices. That's a good amount of house in Las Vegas; the lower cost of living's part of why some like Jay live there.
Craig's house was shown in one of the news clips a few days ago. Nice as well as big.
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240 should create a video of the bodybuilding stars homes
then we can all critique and judge
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They are both well known bodybuilder with supplement contracts. And together they only lived in a 407K house? Man think of how many BBers out there juice, do everything to put their health in jeopardy devote their life to BB and one of the few that made it to the pro's and actually was decent only could afford a 407K house even with his wife, an elite fitness pro, helping out too.
Vanity is what keeps this sport going. Its certainly not worth the risks and effort to make it to the big leagus.
And I am not talking about BB as a lifestyle, i mean competing/juicing etc
You obviously don't follow the housing market. A 400K house is huge in Las Vegas. A similar house in LA, or SF will easily cost 800K to a mil. I'm not defending ol' Craiggers but I'm sure his house is worth more than yours. I believe he also had a gym added to his home.
deeznutz
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Obvi 400K can buy a bigger house in certain areas than others. If you paid 400K for a house where Ilive it would be a condo or a small townhouse, or a very small old house.
I'm just saying 400K aint that much, I don't know why it was mentioned in some of the articles.
Actually I am just bitter that I didnt get to take advantage of the weekend getaway with Craig and Kelly, wher ethey pick you up at the airport and you stay at their place and work out with them. That would have made my life!! Haha pathetic.
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You obviously don't follow the housing market. A 400K house is huge in Las Vegas. A similar house in LA, or SF will easily cost 800K to a mil. I'm not defending ol' Craiggers but I'm sure his house is worth more than yours. I believe he also had a gym added to his home.
deeznutz
It's all cost of living differences....what cost $5 here costs $10 there......you earn $50 here you earn $75 there for the same thing.....a $400K house in Vegas = $800K in LA and $200K in San Antonio, TX. Everything evens out because you're paid proportionally....only difference being if you live in Vegas and earn LA dollars.
MOS
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Actually they made a great purchase. I showed Craig the area before he made the purchase when he was in town Guest posing at the Las vegas Classic for Stevie Karr.
I believe at the tim eh paid $232,000 for the house, which has double in what 3 years?
Not bad.
S. Ray
$470,000 in Cali or should I say in Venice, will buy you a One Bdr. Condo.
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Actually they made a great purchase. I showed Craig the area before he made the purchase when he was in town Guest posing at the Las vegas Classic for Stevie Karr.
I believe at the tim eh paid $232,000 for the house, which has double in what 3 years?
Not bad.
S. Ray
$470,000 in Cali or should I say in Venice, will buy you a One Bdr. Condo.
Plus...now if you attach Craig & Kelly's name to it...I bet that will add more value
;)
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Ya, there are discrepances between income & real estate in various areas.
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Actually they made a great purchase. I showed Craig the area before he made the purchase when he was in town Guest posing at the Las vegas Classic for Stevie Karr.
I believe at the tim eh paid $232,000 for the house, which has double in what 3 years?
Not bad.
S. Ray
$470,000 in Cali or should I say in Venice, will buy you a One Bdr. Condo.
Shawn, did you know they were into the "other" kind of lifestyle at that point? Not just the sex/swinging because I think everyone's heard stories from CA about that, but had they already started down the cocaine path to methville?
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Depending on where you were living and where you are moving too there can be a BIG difference in COL and earnings increase. In some cases a 30% COL and only a 5% pay increase for the same job. :o
Salary Wizard (kind of fun to pop in different places and compare):
http://swz.salary.com/CostOfLivingWizard/layoutscripts/coll_start.asp
Granted, the cost of living variances are an average for the city (area).....that city can be broken down into numerous individual markets with a wide range of living costs with to reach the median rate posted. I kinda like the following link....prior to readin this thread I was comparing San Antonio, TX (my city) to some of my friends in California: http://www.bankrate.com/brm/movecalc.asp . It breaks down all kinds of general costs that most people encounter and compare them by area.....don't know how accurate it is, but it's fun to see the living increases based on whatever scale and measures they use to compare with.
FYI ~ I wouldn't take a 5% pay increase with 20-30% increase in cost of living LOL!! I'm a valuable commodity....nobody can post on Getbig at work like I can!
MOS
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lolololz @ MOS ;D
Cool, I will check out that link, thanks. :)
edit: Rochester isn't on there >:(
Bastards!!! I'll never use that Nazi COL comparison site again!
Have a fun day!
MOS
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Plus...now if you attach Craig & Kelly's name to it...I bet that will add more value
;)
it comes along with a free BBQ set, starter fluid and 10 liters of petrol
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Unlike Los Angeles, and other extremely overvalued high prices areas, you can buy a very nice house for $400K in Las Vegas. One of my friends is selling their townhome here in Los Angeles for $460K and have already looked at the houses in Vegas. For $400K, you can big house in a good neighborhood, whether that be Las Vegas, Summerlin or Green Valley.
when i bought my property in vegas two years ago, it was 1300 sq ft for 160k, and it was illegal to have grass in the front yard... sold 18 month later for 240k due to the rise in housing prices in vegas now. i bought my house just north of austin for 180k, brand new, 2400 square feet. it would be worth 750k in vegas now. you cant get shit for 400k in vegas now. around 7500 people move to vegas each month, hence the rise in housing prices. if they had a nice house, it was worth 400k two years ago. if it is 400k now, its NOT that nice of a home.
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They had a very interesting show on one time when I lived in Vegas. It was a very bad future for Sin City. It is growing so fast that it will outgrow its resources in 10 to 15 years. The water table is just not there to provide water for 1+ million people. Lake Mead supplies other counties too. It really made me think about investing there long time. If you notice the strip floods more now because of the constant building west. The asphalt and concrete has covered huge sections of moisture soaking land. That is why they had to build those huge pits on the westside. I was there in 2000 during the major floods that flooded the strip and our office building. I stood out front of my condo watching this lasy in her car float by me and ram into a wall. As beautiful and fun Vegas is they are outgrowing themselves and it could end up desert again.
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On top of the house that they lived in, they also owned 4 other homes which were either being rented out or completed. How much is your parent's house worth?
It's probably tough for him to assess that from his 'basement apartment'.
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They had a very interesting show on one time when I lived in Vegas. It was a very bad future for Sin City. It is growing so fast that it will outgrow its resources in 10 to 15 years. The water table is just not there to provide water for 1+ million people.
Exactly. I do *not* want to be in Vegas when they "run out of water" and that's something that will eventually happen unless they put a moratorium on all new development.
I mean, how can you outlaw *grass*??
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It's probably tough for him to assess that from his 'basement apartment'.
funny guy Tre. you should steer away from the bodybuilding world and start smoking crack and shooting your brethren with the rest of your kind
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dont mind me, just tryin to be offensive as possible.
hopefully it worked. if not, put down that KFC respond
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Finish your homework and go kiss your mommy goodnight.
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They are both well known bodybuilder with supplement contracts. And together they only lived in a 407K house? Man think of how many BBers out there juice, do everything to put their health in jeopardy devote their life to BB and one of the few that made it to the pro's and actually was decent only could afford a 407K house even with his wife, an elite fitness pro, helping out too.
Vanity is what keeps this sport going. Its certainly not worth the risks and effort to make it to the big leagus.
And I am not talking about BB as a lifestyle, i mean competing/juicing etc
Hello? He is a pro bodybuilder, not a pro basketball, football or baseball player...... :-\
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as long as they continue to 'buy' water from the colorado river vegas will be fine
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I think some and I think all new casinos are required to re-use their water. All pond or water feature water is recycled waste water. As is sprinklers, waterfalls, and I think toilet water. Anyone remember back in 2000 when Lake Mead was being polluted with the toilet water from the casinos. Something happened where sewage water was being dumped back into the lake.
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soon we will be drinking salton sea water
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They had a very interesting show on one time when I lived in Vegas. It was a very bad future for Sin City. It is growing so fast that it will outgrow its resources in 10 to 15 years. The water table is just not there to provide water for 1+ million people.
Oh, they'll be okay.... they'll just have to pipe the water in from somewhere else (which of course will be costly, but can be done). Where do you think L.A. gets its water from, its own water table??
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Victorville and other counties near there get there water from Lake Mead as sone some of Arizona. Lake Mead supplies allot of areas not just Vegas. Plus the electricity and smog in Vegas is excessive. I love Vegas and miss it but I hope they pull through. Right now they are at a high. So many people are movng there. 10 years ago they had half the people that are there now. In 10 years it will double again. It can only get so big before something happens.
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why do they call it sin city
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I find this discussion of real estate in Vegas to be pretty interesting. Is there a big discrepency in property values depending on what neighborhood you are in? I ask this because I did a few quick searches for real estate there and found a .63 acre lot in Henderson (I assume that neighbors Vegas) for 1.1 mil (no house, just the property). On the other hand there are a lot of homes for far less than this amount.
Where I live 400k will buy you a parking space. If you get lucky you might find a studio for that amount.
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Victorville and other counties near there get there water from Lake Mead as sone some of Arizona. Lake Mead supplies allot of areas not just Vegas. Plus the electricity and smog in Vegas is excessive. I love Vegas and miss it but I hope they pull through. Right now they are at a high. So many people are movng there. 10 years ago they had half the people that are there now. In 10 years it will double again. It can only get so big before something happens.
In general, I agree, but because of the nature of desert living, as long as they can keep laying pipe, they can continue spreading for miles and miles.
I attempted to live in the desert and for the life of me, I just don't understand the appeal. I mean, for old folks, I get it, but for young couples with kids, it makes no sense to me. I need trees, four seasons, and GRASS.
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well yeah there are guy areas and other mixes.
theres some gang activity too.
a few rough neighborhoods but not many.
affordable units of housing for hotel housekeeping staff.
gated RV parks etc.
all sorts of possibilities in vegas.
and prox to strip etc.
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I need trees, four seasons, and GRASS.
You have four seasons in SoCal, do you? ::)
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Where I live 400k will buy you a parking space. If you get lucky you might find a studio for that amount.
Same here, but where I'm moving, $400,000 will buy you a over 4000 sq feet on 3/4 acre in a great neighborhood. That's the kind of life I'd prefer.
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You have four seasons in SoCal, do you? ::)
NOT. Two seasons - wet and dry. And my kid's mom claims *I'm* not "balanced". Psychotic wench. >:(
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NOT. Two seasons - wet and dry.
"Winter" in Houston means it is in the high 60's instead of the high 90's, yet somehow people here still like to claim we have 4 seasons. ::)
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well yeah there are guy areas and other mixes.
theres some gang activity too.
a few rough neighborhoods but not many.
affordable units of housing for hotel housekeeping staff.
gated RV parks etc.
all sorts of possibilities in vegas.
and prox to strip etc.
So proximity to the strip causes one to pay a premium for land? I have never been to Vegas, so I am not familiar with the layout (except for that fact that I am aware that there is a strip that is home to many of the casinos).
Aside from the casinos, shows and fights, what is the draw to Vegas? Is there any industry/market other than the entertainment market and the resulting ancillary industry?
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Same here, but where I'm moving, $400,000 will buy you a over 4000 sq feet on 3/4 acre in a great neighborhood. That's the kind of life I'd prefer.
If moving to a place like that works for you than that's great. I just couldn't deal with the commute. I guess that is why a lot of people maintain two homes.
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So proximity to the strip causes one to pay a premium for land? I have never been to Vegas, so I am not familiar with the layout (except for that fact that I am aware that there is a strip that is home to many of the casinos).
Aside from the casinos, shows and fights, what is the draw to Vegas? Is there any industry/market other than the entertainment market and the resulting ancillary industry?
las vegas today can be compared to destinations like Disneyland. only it's a municipality not a theme park. there are lots of land use challenges in las vegas and i imagine the zoning board meetings can be quite lively.
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las vegas today can be compared to destinations like Disneyland. only it's a municipality not a theme park. there are lots of land use challenges in las vegas and i imagine the zoning board meetings can be quite lively.
I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant what is the draw to living in Vegas. I understand the appeal to visiting there, but it seems like a lot of people are moving there. While I might like to visit Disneyland, I would only move there if they let me living in the Castle.
(I should proof read my posts - they would make more sense)
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I meant what is the draw to living in Vegas.
The same reason people are moving from SoCal and the Rust Belt to other cities in the south and southwest like Phoenix, Denver, Dallas, Houston, Austin, Atlanta, Charlotte, Orlando and many others ... low cost of living coupled with reasonable economic opportunities resulting in a higher standard of living.
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The same reason people are moving from SoCal and the Rust Belt to other cities in the south and southwest like Phoenix, Denver, Dallas, Houston, Austin, Atlanta, Charlotte, Orlando and many others ... low cost of living coupled with reasonable economic opportunities resulting in a higher standard of living.
So there is industry to provide reasonable economic industries outside of the entertainment field (and resulting ancillary businesses)?
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contact
the las vegas chamber of commerce
they have a website
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The same reason people are moving from SoCal and the Rust Belt to other cities in the south and southwest like Phoenix, Denver, Dallas, Houston, Austin, Atlanta, Charlotte, Orlando and many others ... low cost of living coupled with reasonable economic opportunities resulting in a higher standard of living.
Call me crazy, but that means a lot to me. I don't understand people like my daughter's mom who "don't get it".
She's one of those people who thinks she's rich just because she lives near rich people.
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I meant what is the draw to living in Vegas.
I'm with you. I LOVE visiting Vegas, but after 4-5 days, I'm ready to get out of there.
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I love Vegas and I loved living there. I am pretty sure my lifestyle there wasn't normal but there are allot of things to do in vegas. I love Lake Mead. Any water sport you can think of. Hoover Dam is awesome. The casinos are a ton of fun especially since so many exhibit a different theme. Plenty of amusment parks. Unlimited restaurants. I like the heat. But it does get really cold there. In fact it snows on the strip sometimes which is really neat. Plenty of night clubs and strip joints. Chicks everywhere. Snow skiing less than an 1.5 hours away at Mt Charleston. Unnlimited off road possibilities. It is a fun place to live. And cheap as anything. I am used to living in the most expensive place in the country so when I moved to Vegas for a couple years I was in heaven.
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dont forget the low prices at restaurants, all the gay bars, many churches, t-shirt shops, korean jewelry stores and highend shopping malls.
the downside i saw poor addicted people hitchiking holding infants
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Call me crazy, but that means a lot to me. I don't understand people like my daughter's mom who "don't get it".
She's one of those people who thinks she's rich just because she lives near rich people.
That's funny, I think living around people who are wealthier than me further shows how not rich I am.
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I love Vegas and I loved living there. I am pretty sure my lifestyle there wasn't normal but there are allot of things to do in vegas. I love Lake Mead. Any water sport you can think of. Hoover Dam is awesome. The casinos are a ton of fun especially since so many exhibit a different theme. Plenty of amusment parks. Unlimited restaurants. I like the heat. But it does get really cold there. In fact it snows on the strip sometimes which is really neat. Plenty of night clubs and strip joints. Chicks everywhere. Snow skiing less than an 1.5 hours away at Mt Charleston. Unnlimited off road possibilities. It is a fun place to live. And cheap as anything. I am used to living in the most expensive place in the country so when I moved to Vegas for a couple years I was in heaven.
Yeah, I understand that there is a lot of fun stuff there to do, but how do people outside of entertainment make any money there to live? It's like Aspen - it is a blast to visit, but very few people can live there and make a living.
Is there some sort of industry in Vegas that I am completely unaware of? (ie: is there a corporate headquarters there, or some sort of tech center?).
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The way I made my money to play was play craps. I love it. But I also ran a t-shirt company that my friend Pete Grymkowski owned. We printed the Mr. Olympia t-shirts in 2000 and 2001. We printed allot of casino shirts and even shirts for casino on the east coast. Allot of entrepenuerial stuff there to do to. But, a valet parking guy at the Mandalay Bay can easily do an average of $300 a day. If you are a girl it is so easy to make money there. Casinos pay very well but it's the tips. My friend who has been there 4 years now just called me and he bought his 7th house (2 in Pahrump). He rents them out and makes enough to pay his mortgage and pocket about $2000 a month. Plus he works at a loan company and sell spas. SO making money in Vegas is easy. And there are a zillion gyms there.
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Good point. Whenever an area is growing fast, the growth is creating new income opportunities as well. All those new people need services.
LOL @ "made money by playing craps"!
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Shawn, did you know they were into the "other" kind of lifestyle at that point? Not just the sex/swinging because I think everyone's heard stories from CA about that, but had they already started down the cocaine path to methville?
There are a lot of BBers that do coke/meth/G/rolls. I'm not saying its right, but its around