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in the Johnnie Jackson and Branch Warren shoulder training article Johnnie claims that he saw Branch shoulder press 405 for 20 reps, what do you think?
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DID HE REALLY SAY THAT? I KNOW BRANCH IS STRONG BUT I DOUBT THAT, I WOULDNT PUT IT PAST HIM THOUGH, BUT EVEN BRANCH DOESNT CLAIM POUNDAGES ANTWHERE NEAR THAT, AT LEAST NOT THAT I KNOW OF.
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i think he claimed it was seated too, i wouldn't doubt 1 or 2 but 20?? i don't know.
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IM THINKING MAYBE BRANCH WAS USING A SMALL ROM AND ALOT OF ASSISTED REPS IF HE DID ACTUALLY DO THAT.
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yeah maybe, if you watch him and johnnie train on that BFTO 05 preview clip they use very short reps, like quarter reps, but even to support that kind of weight, man, i don't know.
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Really?Geeze,Ted Arcidi claims to have done 405X3 in a standing behind neck press.Ed Coan has done 405X2 in the seated behind the neck press.Now,is anyone claining that Johnny Jackson or Branch Warren are stronger than either of these two guys?Im so sick of these idiotic claims like Johnny will deadlift 1000lbs when his best pull is 815,or Lee Priest claiming he can squat 775 for six reps with only a belt or Johnny Jackson claiming an 815 squat with only a belt but in a power meet with a suit,belt and wraps he get 825.Its a load of crap.These guys are strong but I wish theyd try to keep their claims realistic.
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yeah maybe, if you watch him and johnnie train on that BFTO 05 preview clip they use very short reps, like quarter reps, but even to support that kind of weight, man, i don't know.
that's bullshit....I have the BFTO 05 and they dont do quarter reps, they use FULL ROM on incline BB bench press. Branch does 315 for 17 reps as a WARM UP and he was just a few days out from the charolette pro show
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i agree with you, i highly doubt he even presses 405 for 1, if you see BFTO 04 Johnnie has a tough time pulling 5 plates for 5, i saw another clip where he had to lift his hips off the bench to bench 405 for 3, i'm sure Branch is strong but i'd say 315 for 8 to 10 is more realistic.
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i agree with you, i highly doubt he even presses 405 for 1, if you see BFTO 04 Johnnie has a tough time pulling 5 plates for 5, i saw another clip where he had to lift his hips off the bench to bench 405 for 3, i'm sure Branch is strong but i'd say 315 for 8 to 10 is more realistic.
you have to understand though that BFTO is with these guys carb depleted and they are at their "weakest". I mean Branch was just a few days out for a show. Also, supposedly, Johnnie loses a lot of strength when he cuts down. Branch is a lot stronger in a depleted state.
All will be told when they release their video soon
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that's bullshit....I have the BFTO 05 and they dont do quarter reps, they use FULL ROM on incline BB bench press. Branch does 315 for 17 reps as a WARM UP and he was just a few days out from the charolette pro show
315 ain't a "warmup" for anyone on inclines, dumbass, it may be lighter than his max set of 405 for 4 or 5 but it's not a warmup.
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315 ain't a "warmup" for anyone on inclines, dumbass, it may be lighter than his max set of 405 for 4 or 5 but it's not a warmup.
315 was a warm up for Branch light easy weight for him, he was pumping out reps getting lighter every rep. Before you go calling people a dumbass go watch the video, you haven't seen anything but pain's shitty preview. If it was a real set Branch would have done 25 reps or more.
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315 was a warm up for Branch light easy weight for him, he was pumping out reps getting lighter every rep. Before you go calling people a dumbass go watch the video, you haven't seen anything but pain's shitty preview. If it was a real set Branch would have done 25 reps or more.
POWERLIFTERS WARM UP WITH THE BAR-100LBS. SARCASM IS RIGHT, 315 ISNT A WARMUP FOR ANYONE. IT MIGHT NOT BE BRANCHES MAX WEIGHT, BUT THAT DOESNT MAKE IT A WAMUP.
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i warm up to yoga with 120
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They were probably talking about some kind of machine press, or else it was a typo.
BTW, I would imagine that a 500+ bencher could use 315 as a warm-up pretty easily.
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Dude, I aint shit and I can do 315 for ten on flat bench. 405 for 20 is probably a lie, but 10 for branch would be beleivable.
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with Brach its hard to say if it was BS or not. the first time i've ever seen him in a Flex meg. he was deading 765lbs... and some seriously amzing pics of him squatting
now the true quwstin is, was it an 45lb bar or smith machine??
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They were probably talking about some kind of machine press
Exactly, probably the hammer strength machine with 4 plates. Beleivable.
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Those magazines are purely exaggerating..
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Didn't Levrone do 4 plates a side on Behind the neck press in his MMM video? I cant remember how many reps (about 8 I think).
20 does sound like a lot to me. ???
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he did but that was on the smith machine...
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jonie jackson made deadliftin 5 plates for 5 reps... on bfto look hard that is for a man who claimes a 800+ dead...
coleman pulled 802 pounds.... 2 weeks out from the 2000 or 2001 O on his the unbelievable dvd.
ronnie in flex did 405 for 1 military press.. freeweight
hmmm
405 for 20 reps is a big claim
specially when you consider he and johnny had a photo shoot trainin chest
and the most branch inclined was 405 for 8...
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Dude, I aint shit and I can do 315 for ten on flat bench. 405 for 20 is probably a lie, but 10 for branch would be beleivable.
he wasn't talking about flat bench, he was talking about seated military press.
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just looked at Brian Siders website and in his training log he claims that his max set on seated militaries is 365 for 10 and he's one of the strongest powerlifters in the world benching close to 800 if not over, so either Branch is the strongest man who ever walked the planet or he's lying his ass off.
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Id like to see it to believe it but i guess we wont get to see proof...Do i think its possible this strenght feat could be done? yes i do...ive done feats of strenght in weight training before that couldnt be duplicated the next workout...it was just a freak thing that everything fell in place and i was superbly strong...call it the effects of endorphins rushing in or whatever...personally without proof i would venture if branch did complete the lift claimed it was probably a one time thing and that day was just a miracle in lifting for him...
lets say your working with a lift and you can do maybe eight reps with it...this is just regular training and where your strenght is at at the time...now, throw in one of the most positive feel good days you ever had, and you go to lift, i believe positive reinforcement can turn that eight reps into twenty...amazing lifts are done all the time, in gyms everyday all around the world...they just arent documented, doesnt mean they dont happen....
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Why wouldnt it be true Sarcasm?
I beleive it, bec there are some guys that use gear at my gym, train hard, and eat good, prettydecent bodybuilers- im sure they are not on what Branch is- and they rep 315 for some good reps.....
maybe slappin on aother set of 45s wouldnt be much for a pro like branch?
Its all in the gear baby.. Guys on the right gear, on the Right diet,, are amazingly strong.
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Why wouldnt it be true Sarcasm?
I beleive it, bec there are some guys that use gear at my gym, train hard, and eat good, prettydecent bodybuilers- im sure they are not on what Branch is- and they rep 315 for some good reps.....
maybe slappin on aother set of 45s wouldnt be much for a pro like branch?
Its all in the gear baby.. Guys on the right gear, on the Right diet,, are amazingly strong.
so you're saying that he's stronger than Brian Siders, Ted Arcidi, Bill Kazmaier, Ed Coan, etc.?
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You have a point there..hmm..maybe they are pushing the truth a little bit..
You know how it is though, im sure youve seen guys on gear, they are just stupid strong...lol...well, while they are on it. ;D
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You have a point there..hmm..maybe they are pushing the truth a little bit..
You know how it is though, im sure youve seen guys on gear, they are just stupid strong...lol...well, while they are on it. ;D
i'll put it to you this way, i used to train at a gym and there was a guy who trained there who totalled 2400lbs. officially on the powerlfts, benched 675 with just a single ply shirt, squatted 1000, and pulled 800 and the heaviest i ever saw him go was 315 on seated militaries for a hard 8 reps.
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I don't know why bodybuilders are always claiming these huge lifts.Johnny Jacksons assanine claim' when he discussed Ronnie's squatting ,and claiming that he did 815 in just a belt is pure foolishness.The guy put on a suit,belt and wraps and squatted 821 in a powermeet[WPO].You mean to tell me he gets 6 pounds out of wraps and a squat suit?Then that is the single most pathetic carryover I have ever heard of and he should sue Inzer for selling him crap gear.He cant squat 815 in just a belt[or if he did its with his training partner helping him up].He also predicts he will pull 1000 pounds.Here is a guy that has pulled in the low 800s and he is going to pull 1000?Kazmire couldn't do it,Ed Coan couldn't do it,no powerlifter ever has done it[in fact only three have been over 930]but somehow Johnny Jackson is going to put 180 pounds on his best pull.What a load of crap.
Most pro bodybuiders are VERY strong and I'm sure Brach Warren is among the strongest as is Johnny Jackson,but only a fool would believe a guy can military press 400 for twenty reps.In fact,if one could bench 400 for twenty he'd be a very very strong man.
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does Branch have a site?? i rememberseeing a site for him once on his chest training. it was like branchwarren.com. and thats now a site at all
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This is one of the biggest b-shits I've heard in my life! I wonder how much would be his 1-REP max, I guess it must be something close to 550. Nobody ever have done something like that on shoulder presses, and if so for sure he was not a bodybuilder.
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in the Johnnie Jackson and Branch Warren shoulder training article Johnnie claims that he saw Branch shoulder press 405 for 20 reps, what do you think?
HA HA! He doesen't have the miscle structure to press 200! Nasser once claimed that all FLEX photo shoots are fake.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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yeah...but dont ask the pros, whos careers that flex photo shots have ended bc of going crazy heavy.
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yeah...but dont ask the pros, whos careers that flex photo shots have ended bc of going crazy heavy.
Jean-Pierre Fux? Yeah, he was the exception that proved the rule...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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he did but that was on the smith machine...
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jonie jackson made deadliftin 5 plates for 5 reps... on bfto look hard that is for a man who claimes a 800+ dead...
coleman pulled 802 pounds.... 2 weeks out from the 2000 or 2001 O on his the unbelievable dvd.
ronnie in flex did 405 for 1 military press.. freeweight
hmmm
405 for 20 reps is a big claim
specially when you consider he and johnny had a photo shoot trainin chest
and the most branch inclined was 405 for 8...
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first off coleman was five and a half weeks out when he pulled 800 for 2. Also, Johnnie loses a lot of his strength when he cuts down...
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Branch comes on here every once and a while. why not just ask him directly....
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he would never come on this thread because he's lying his ass off about that claim.
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he would never come on this thread because he's lying his ass off about that claim.
Or someone else lied in his name.
Regardless, about time these ridiculous lifting claims stopped. This is not weight or Power lifting anyway, this is supposed to be bodybuilding. So, why the need for lying?
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Or someone else lied in his name.
Regardless, about time these ridiculous lifting claims stopped. This is not weight or Power lifting anyway, this is supposed to be bodybuilding. So, why the need for lying?
i don't know, ask him, he's the one who made the bullshit claim.
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RONNIE SAID THAT JOHNNIE WAS ONE OF THE STRONGEST BB'R THAT HE WORKED OUT WITH. YES JOHNNIE HIT THAT 800 LB DL AT A MEET. THEY SAY BRANCH IS STRONG AS AN OX TOO. ITS NOT WRITTEN THAT ALL BODYBUILDERS USE THE HIGH REP LOW WEIGHT APPROACH. WHY IS IT HARD TO BELIEVE.
JOHNNIES ON THE BOOKS WITH THAT DEADLIFT
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first off coleman was five and a half weeks out when he pulled 800 for 2. Also, Johnnie loses a lot of his strength when he cuts down...
im quite sure coleman stated he was 2 weeks out.... from the olympia.... he said it when he did the deadlift... and when he did 200lb for 10 or 12 reps...
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Branch has claimed 20 reps of 405 on bent over rows, but I haven't read shoulder presses for 20.
I find typos all the time in magazines; plus, people just lie.
MOS
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in the Johnnie Jackson and Branch Warren shoulder training article Johnnie claims that he saw Branch shoulder press 405 for 20 reps, what do you think?
I think he has no reason to lie.
Then again, it's not about the weight you lift. Right Jay?
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yeah maybe, if you watch him and johnnie train on that BFTO 05 preview clip they use very short reps, like quarter reps, but even to support that kind of weight, man, i don't know.
Not quarter reps. More like 1/2 reps. Anyone who does full reps with that kind of weight in a dieted down condition will hurt himself.
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its stupid to think that when dieted down, everyones strength is reduced by the same percentage. Obviously some are going to remain very strong, its their genetics. Jay Cutler seems weak as hell in contest condition, but ronnie is still up there with world class numbers. Come the offseason however everything changes.
Ruhl claims a 545 smith machine military press i believe, what do you think of that? Tom Prince was noted for being able to do 455 for 3-4 reps on the military press. Everyone is different. Now IMO the claims are pure bullshit from Branch, though i hear he is actually as strong as a bull but not as strong as Johnny.
As for the 1000 deadlift, its just my opinion but i think the only man that ever had a chance of breaking it was Mark Henry. He is the strongest man on earth without a doubt, and if he trained for it then nobody would come close to him. But now he has been given his big push in the WWE i doubt we will ever see him in strength competitions ever again. Bill kazmaier stated that Henry was only at 80% of his best and was still the strongest man in the world. If that is true, thats some very scary shit!
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im quite sure coleman stated he was 2 weeks out.... from the olympia.... he said it when he did the deadlift... and when he did 200lb for 10 or 12 reps...
HE WAS 5 AND A HALF WEEKS OUT BUT I DOUBT HE'S THAT MUCH WEAKER 2 WEEKS OUT, ON THE DAY OF THE 98' MR OLYMPIA RONNIE BENCHED 225 72 TIMES, AND COULD HAVE DONE MORE.
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its stupid to think that when dieted down, everyones strength is reduced by the same percentage. Obviously some are going to remain very strong, its their genetics. Jay Cutler seems weak as hell in contest condition, but ronnie is still up there with world class numbers. Come the offseason however everything changes.
Ruhl claims a 545 smith machine military press i believe, what do you think of that? Tom Prince was noted for being able to do 455 for 3-4 reps on the military press. Everyone is different. Now IMO the claims are pure bullshit from Branch, though i hear he is actually as strong as a bull but not as strong as Johnny.
As for the 1000 deadlift, its just my opinion but i think the only man that ever had a chance of breaking it was Mark Henry. He is the strongest man on earth without a doubt, and if he trained for it then nobody would come close to him. But now he has been given his big push in the WWE i doubt we will ever see him in strength competitions ever again. Bill kazmaier stated that Henry was only at 80% of his best and was still the strongest man in the world. If that is true, thats some very scary shit!
not the military press, they're talking about the Hammer Strength or Smith machine, if Ruhl tried a 545 BARBELL military they'd be taking him to the hospital, same thing with Tom Prince.
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Those magazines are purely exaggerating..
Testicular Maldevelopment and its senior publisher usually do.
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I can't speak for Branch, but in his video " All American Workout The Next Level", Johnnie was doing a bunch of BS high speed, quarter reps on his exercises, so I doubt any of his claims. It was all momentum and even then he was barely moving the bars and dumbbells.
He also cannot count. He repeatedly claims in the video he did 12 reps on exercises, but when you actually count, it was more like 6 or 8.
He's a joke.
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I can't speak for Branch, but in his video " All American Workout The Next Level", Johnnie was doing a bunch of BS high speed, quarter reps on his exercises, so I doubt any of his claims. It was all momentum and even then he was barely moving the bars and dumbbells.
He also cannot count. He repeatedly claims in the video he did 12 reps on exercises, but when you actually count, it was more like 6 or 8.
He's a joke.
YOU HAVE TO ADMIT HIS LIFESTYLE VIDEO WAS PRETTY GOOD.
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he used the worst form i've ever seen on BFTO 04 on his back movements, his barbell rows were the shortest reps i've ever seen and he did them at a million miles an hour, i couldn't believe how loose and sloppy his form was.
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YOU HAVE TO ADMIT HIS LIFESTYLE VIDEO WAS PRETTY GOOD.
Haven't seen it and after watching Next Level, I will never buy any more of his videos.
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Haven't seen it and after watching Next Level, I will never buy any more of his videos.
CHECK IT OUT, BRO
http://muscleweb.com/johnnie/
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JJ needs to have his straight card removed.
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I'm Canadian, and saw Kovacs back when Greg was still very young, very strong, and very big (400 + Lbs. in bodyweight) .......highly doubt these two midgets claims......by the way all this hoopla over Branch... at best he is a very good "B" level bodybuilder.... no structure.....shallow rib cage.....dense but no shape to play with the big boys
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I'm Canadian, and saw Kovacs back when Greg was still very young, very strong, and very big (400 + Lbs. in bodyweight) .......highly doubt these two midgets claims......by the way all this hoopla over Branch... at best he is a very good "B" level bodybuilder.... no structure.....shallow rib cage.....dense but no shape to play with the big boys
I HAVENT HEARD OF MANY "B" LEVEL BODYBUILDERS WINNING 2 PRO SHOWS BACK TO BACK.
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Yaah, because about 7 of the "A" level bodies didnt show up.....Darrem Charles has one pro shows too....would you consider him among the Colemans, Cutlers, Cormiers etc? Wake up
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Yaah, because about 7 of the "A" level bodies didnt show up.....Darrem Charles has one pro shows too....would you consider him among the Colemans, Cutlers, Cormiers etc? Wake up
BRANCH WARREN WITH ABOTHER 15-20LBS OF MUSCLE WILL BE A SERIOUS THREAT, THE GUY LOOKS FUCKING SICK.
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It's going way back, but an old issue of Muscle & Power (now M&F) claimed the Tim Belknap squated 865 X 10. We had the article taped to the gym wall for years. LOL. I'm sure Belknap was strong & he had lots of muscle but 865 X 10 might be a bit much.
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It's going way back, but an old issue of Muscle & Power (now M&F) claimed the Tim Belknap squated 865 X 10. We had the article taped to the gym wall for years. LOL. I'm sure Belknap was strong & he had lots of muscle but 865 X 10 might be a bit much.
SOUNDS LIKE BS TO ME.
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with all today's technology, why can't an athlete get onstage this ripped? Is it just the lighting that prevents guys form looking this ripped onstage? I'm sure a few warmup sets and a few niacin could get them there, right? He puts Munzer to shame in this pic
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with all today's technology, why can't an athlete get onstage this ripped? Is it just the lighting that prevents guys form looking this ripped onstage? I'm sure a few warmup sets and a few niacin could get them there, right? He pouts Munzer to shame in this pic
WHAT PIC?
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WHAT PIC?
sorry
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sorry
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Branch looks excellent on paper. When you meet him in person you kinda trip out. He's is actually very small.
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I wouldn't call being in the top ten of the world and winner of two contests in his second ( or third?) year as a pro a "B Level" bodybuilder.
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Side job
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I wouldn't call being in the top ten of the world and winner of two contests in his second ( or third?) year as a pro a "B Level" bodybuilder.
How is he not? Winning a couple of second tier events is nice but hardly puts him in Coleman's class, or even Cutler or Jackson's.
While I fully realise BB shows have nothing to do with strength and it's largely irrelevant how much you can press/squat/DL on the day, I think BB could potentially add some life into what is increasingly a tedious year by having an alternative 'strength Olympia' (or something) just for the IFBB pros. You could have a couple of meets earlier in the year where you'd qualify, and then the ten or so strongest guys in the final.
It would end all this bullshit about who can lift what. OK, this isn't powerlifting, but I bet if someone put up a $100,000 winner-takes-all prize, you'd get interest, and I'm sure the second-tier guys like Warren and Johnny Jackson would be up for it. Whether Ronnie would bother, or anyone else concerned about injuries etc, is a different story. But these guys lift heavy all the time during their workouts - or at least, that's what we're told - I'm not sure there's much of a difference.
Coleman vs Johnny Jackson in the final? Could be fun. My money's on Ronnie.
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How is he not? Winning a couple of second tier events is nice but hardly puts him in Coleman's class, or even Cutler or Jackson's.
OF COURSE NOT, BOT ONCE HE PUTS ON SOME MORE MASS HE WILL BE A SERIOUS THREAT. YOU CANT GO FROM ZERO TO MR OLYMPIA IN NO SECONDS, GIVE HIM TIME, BRANCH IS ONLY 29.
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sorry
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YEAH, THAT'S A SICK PIC, I SCANNED IT FROM MD.
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its stupid to think that when dieted down, everyones strength is reduced by the same percentage. Obviously some are going to remain very strong, its their genetics. Jay Cutler seems weak as hell in contest condition, but ronnie is still up there with world class numbers. Come the offseason however everything changes.
Ruhl claims a 545 smith machine military press i believe, what do you think of that? Tom Prince was noted for being able to do 455 for 3-4 reps on the military press. Everyone is different. Now IMO the claims are pure bullshit from Branch, though i hear he is actually as strong as a bull but not as strong as Johnny.
As for the 1000 deadlift, its just my opinion but i think the only man that ever had a chance of breaking it was Mark Henry. He is the strongest man on earth without a doubt, and if he trained for it then nobody would come close to him. But now he has been given his big push in the WWE i doubt we will ever see him in strength competitions ever again. Bill kazmaier stated that Henry was only at 80% of his best and was still the strongest man in the world. If that is true, thats some very scary shit!
no. the strongest man in the world is gary frank. he's closing in on 1000 lbs. dl but magnus benedick has like a 970. frank will be the first man to break the 3000 barrier while mark henry dreams of even breaking the 2500 barrier.
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No man can military 405 for 20 reps,not possible.Ronnie did 405 for one and thats un heard of.Bill Kaz the strongest man to ever live did 420 for 1 in his prime.I m sure branch is strong but 405 for 20,don't insult my intelligence.
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No man can military 405 for 20 reps,not possible.Ronnie did 405 for one and thats un heard of.Bill Kaz the strongest man to ever live did 420 for 1 in his prime.I m sure branch is strong but 405 for 20,don't insult my intelligence.
A POLICE OFFICER AT THE ARBOLD CLASSIC A FEW YEARS BACK DID 50 REPS WITH 150LB DUMBELLS, SO I THINK 405 BY 20 IS POSSIBLE.
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I was at the Arnold and saw what your talking about.It was a 110lb dumbell,and he did 22 reps,he was a cop from NY.The year before that he tried to get the world record for reps with 405 in the bench,he did 21 reps,the wr was 23,and thats flat bench not military.405 for 20 in mill is not possible
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JJ needs to have his straight card removed.
I doubt that fag was ever issued one. Gay as the day is long.
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Goddamn. He's only 29 and he looks 45. :-\
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Goddamn. He's only 29 and he looks 45. :-\
HE LOOKS HAGGARD, NOT OLD.
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He looks old and haggard.
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HE LOOKS HARDCORE.
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I can't speak for Branch, but in his video " All American Workout The Next Level", Johnnie was doing a bunch of BS high speed, quarter reps on his exercises, so I doubt any of his claims. It was all momentum and even then he was barely moving the bars and dumbbells.
He also cannot count. He repeatedly claims in the video he did 12 reps on exercises, but when you actually count, it was more like 6 or 8.
He's a joke.
Yeah, maybe Johnnie could start gaining some real muscle if he used super slow reps and perfect form. ::)
Fucking clown.
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Right now Andy Bolton has the highest total. Gary Frank is strong as hell but I think Bolton could beat him under any cicumstances. Also if Mark Henry would have stuck to powerlifting he easily could have taken the deadlift record. Im sure of that.
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Who gives a shit. He can outlift most if not all here.
And it's not really Branch's claim if Jackson said it now is it???
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man i a flex article ronnie claimed he did 585 on barbell rows.......is that possible......and ronnie did 315 on shoulders for reps...........but is ronnies 585 on barbell rows true!!!!!!!!!!!...............its was in a flex artilce titled THE MOST BRUTAL WORKOUTS IN HISTORY!!!!!
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Right now Andy Bolton has the highest total. Gary Frank is strong as hell but I think Bolton could beat him under any cicumstances. Also if Mark Henry would have stuck to powerlifting he easily could have taken the deadlift record. Im sure of that.
Garry Frank has the highest total at 2800 plus.
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I was at the Arnold and saw what your talking about.It was a 110lb dumbell,and he did 22 reps,he was a cop from NY.The year before that he tried to get the world record for reps with 405 in the bench,he did 21 reps,the wr was 23,and thats flat bench not military.405 for 20 in mill is not possible
WR for bench reps with 405 is only 23? I am certain there are alot of lifters out there that can do more. Onlyme got over 23 reps before and I think he witnessed Kaz get like 50 reps with 405...
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How is he not? Winning a couple of second tier events is nice but hardly puts him in Coleman's class, or even Cutler or Jackson's.
I never said he was in Ronnie's or Jay's class.
But you are saying class A is made up of 3 bodybuilders???? Come on!!!
So Victor Martinez, Gunter, Markus ( 5th in 2004 Olympia), Darrem, Mark Dugdale and everyone else is a "Class B" bodybuilder?
I say it again. He is top ten in the world with hundreds and hundreds of professional and amateur competitors. Pretty damn good.
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Garry Frank has the highest total at 2800 plus.
andy beat his total at the IPF meet in november. The same meet that Benedikt magnusson broke the deadlift record.
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WR for bench reps with 405 is only 23? I am certain there are alot of lifters out there that can do more. Onlyme got over 23 reps before and I think he witnessed Kaz get like 50 reps with 405...
no one on this planet ever benched 405 for 50, absolutely no one.
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no one on this planet ever benched 405 for 50, absolutely no one.
Not even Nassar? ;D
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no one on this planet ever benched 405 for 50, absolutely no one.
This is what onlyme says. I think he says there was a video out there that documented this. I tend to agree with you though, and don't think anyone has ever benched 50 legit reps with 405 lbs...even squatting 405x50 would be fucking impressive.
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no one on this planet ever benched 405 for 50, absolutely no one.
Totally agree. That is physically impossible. The outlandish strength claims are preposterous enough, the fact that some of you nitwits actually believe them is even funnier.
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with all today's technology, why can't an athlete get onstage this ripped? Is it just the lighting that prevents guys form looking this ripped onstage? I'm sure a few warmup sets and a few niacin could get them there, right? He puts Munzer to shame in this pic
Munzer was much harder and dryer. Anyone have the black and white pics of Munzer doing leg presses from Flex mag so we can compare?
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ok. jj was BEING FUCCKING SACASTIC.
he was saying how strong bw is, but make a joke out of it saying he could military 405 (even on a smith) for 20 reps. he wasnt meant to be taken serious.
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yea, well i saw branch warren eat three 72 ounce steaks in an hour once
and for the first 45 minutes he was having sex with the waittress.
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Branch Warren also drives an icecream truck covered in human skulls
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In actuality, there was no bomb dropped on nagasaki and hiroshima, branch warren was dropped out of a plane and he simply punched the ground.
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blazer you speak very highly of branch.. ;D
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dude
branch warren has counted to infinity, twice.
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Branch warren walked down teh street last week with a huge erection, and there were no survivors
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Chuck Norris' droppings > Branch Warren
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i was just waiting until someone made the connection
and who else would know about the chuck norris facts website besides 240
and just for all the getbiggers out there
240 once wrestled bigfoot, a grizzly bear, a mountain lion, and branch warren, at the same time, and won by tying them together with an anaconda
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in the Johnnie Jackson and Branch Warren shoulder training article Johnnie claims that he saw Branch shoulder press 405 for 20 reps, what do you think?
That was a misprint
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bump.
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finally....someone gets it...
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Who gives a shit. He can outlift most if not all here.
And it's not really Branch's claim if Jackson said it now is it???
Well anyone who's seen their training footage can tell that the word 'lift' is used rather losely, since they are even worse than Ronnie for form. They throw the weight like a third of the way up for 6-8 like the man said. Great genetics though to be able to train like this and still look like bodybuilders.
And respect to Branch for saying aesthetic=small, lol
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c'mon man. i saw levrone do 405 for 6 reps and he was one of the strongest in the sport. 20 seems way out there.
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c'mon man. i saw levrone do 405 for 6 reps and he was one of the strongest in the sport. 20 seems way out there.
the 405 for 6 was done in a smith machine rite just like in m3? and branch could never shoulder press 405 for 20...
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the 405 for 6 was done in a smith machine rite just like in m3? and branch could never shoulder press 405 for 20...
Damn this thread is a year old. :-\ But No I say bullshit on ANYONE shoulder pressing 405 for 20.
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the 405 for 6 was done in a smith machine rite just like in m3? and branch could never shoulder press 405 for 20...
all the reps were heavily assisted by spotter, the spotter tries hard not to show he is grimmacing but he is.
Levrone didnt get a single rep at 405 bnp.
The funniest thign i EVER SAW WAS THE Matawan muscle machine mo elbanousi post a pciture at mayhem, with 405 bnp on a weighted bar smith,
there is now way he could even hold that weight never midn press it, he claimed he got 2 reps the fucking lyer.
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all the reps were heavily assisted by spotter, the spotter tries hard not to show he is grimmacing but he is.
Levrone didnt get a single rep at 405 bnp.
The funniest thign i EVER SAW WAS THE Matawan muscle machine mo elbanousi post a pciture at mayhem, with 405 bnp on a weighted bar smith,
there is now way he could even hold that weight never midn press it, he claimed he got 2 reps the fucking lyer.
davidpaul: you didnt understand what i meant .i didnt claim levrone did 6 in mm3 with 405..i asked if it was done on a smith machine? yeah i remember he did like 3 assisted reps on the smith machine in mm3 (black dude spotting him). i should have expressed myself more clearly..smith machine is easier than free weight as you know.
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after watching the way most pros train on that bfto 2005 i get a what the hell whats that? i couldnt beileve how fast johhnie and branch were pressing, they were doing half reps with so much speed. if they did 405 right for 6reps on incline i think that would be tough for them on the military presses yea ok
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slaveboy. iwas the dude in the m3 vid spotting kev. i can assure he got 4 of the 6 reps by himself.
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I don't believe he could do one with a barbell. I mean touching his upper chest and pushing it out while upright. What he could do is a half reps that almost resemble an incline bench.