Do you drink heavily?
No. No alcohol or drugs.
You need to identify the cause and correct that.
what if its incorrectable?
I should be happier now that I've got a job now but I'm not. I made a lot of mistakes in my life and am sorry for it. But I can't go back in time and fix these things. Am I doomed to suffering? :(
You need to identify the cause and correct that.
I should be happier now that I've got a job now but I'm not. I made a lot of mistakes in my life and am sorry for it. But I can't go back in time and fix these things. Am I doomed to suffering? :(
Hope this is a serious post because I will answer it like it is. I have and am suffering now. I know what you mean about knowing it is not the normal blues but much worse. You just know inside it is not normal. I did go to a shrink on was put on medication and looking back I am not sure how much it helped. It may or may not have. All I know is that it was not easy by any means. I found that there were certain people who could just make me feel better and "forget" about it all while I was with them. Seek these people out and be around them whenever possible. I wish I had a concrete answer to give you about how to get through it but there is none other than if you feel it is going too far into the darkness and you are going to hurt yourself, go to a hospital tell them what you are thinking and let them help you. Other than that, try to find anything positive that does not hurt others that you can do to boost your mood. There are supplements and drugs that help but they are not a cure. The only cure is unfortunately time because it feels like it will never end. It does though. Good luck to us both, I know I need it.
jerk off less
I agree. Most depression is due to environment IMO Just change your environment.I think the cause is internal. So he needs to search within.
what if its incorrectable?
Oh boy are we in the same boat. You will get told over and over the truth but will not accept it until you are ready to and then you will feel better. I know because I am the same way. The truth is that a lot of the time I blame myself COMPLETELY for everything that has gone wrong or anything bad that happened to me. That is simply not true. Am I responsible partially? of course. It is when I drive myself crazy by blaming myself fully for everything that I get really depressed and anxious. I need to take my own advice more often so I know how hard it is. Just try not to blame yourself completely and like you said there is nothing you can do to change what happened. Focus on what you have some power over: what you do and feel from now on. You got to me with your post. I feel the same thing all the time and when I let it become all i think about is when I get really down. Try looking at IronMeister's photoshops if you need a laugh. I don't care how depressed I am, seeing all his Tbombz photoshops makes me laugh every time.
everything in life can be fixed
if you are being serious then you should probably talk to someone in real life
airing your shit on get big is invaraibly a bad idea
This is a serious post. I think that's good advice about finding someone that would make me happy. But I fear that would just mask the depression temporarily and then if I breakup with that person or something happens I would be back in the dumps again. I don't want to be too dependent on someone.
Doesnt need to be romantic in fact probably shouldnt be in the shape you are in. I meant your mom, dad, sister, whoever. Yeah romantic stuff when depressed will NEVER end well. Stay away. Lean on the people you know you can trust and whom trust you. Just open up to someone and when all that pain comes out it is like a weight is off of you. IT wont get better instantly but you will improve for sure. I really feel for you man, I am also going through this and have gone through it before so i know how hard it can be. The guilt and self-loathing is so toxic to your soul. just keep reminding yourself that you are sorry for what you did or what happened and that you will not do it again. The future is wide open but the past is closed. You will notice though that as time passes you will come back to life again. Unless you found out you have some terminal disease and are going to die soon, EVERYTHING else will pass.
Not so sure everything can be fixed. Sometimes you have to reap what you sow.
In all honesty, if you're suffering from depression, there are free clinics out there that will help you and with the affordable care act you can not be rejected, as technically you NOW have insurance. You can either opt for a specific plan or pay the tax fine at the end of the year, but nonetheless you are covered and will not be rejected.
Seek a professional to speak with.
Discuss the various stressors in your life and your mechanisms used to cope.
Get out more for walks, exercise and even try picking up a new hobby that requires you to devote both mental and physical energy towards it. This often times allows your mind to become remolded and set your attention onto other things that can derail your overall depression. Any less time feeling depressed is time invested towards the right direction.
Change your diet. Reduce your overall intake of caffeine and processed foods. Try getting the recommended amount of sleep (6-8 hours every night).
If and when you find that resorting to the aforementioned tactics does not provide a decent level of progress, you might have to consider cognitive behavioral therapy and possibly pharmacotherapy down the line.
Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (Celexa, Zoloft, Paxil, Prozac & Lexapro) are very commonly used and have proven to provide a generous amount of resolve in those with depression.
Likewise, Tricyclic antidepressants (Elavil, Pamelor, Norpramin, Tofranil) can be used if therapy with the SSRI's mentioned above fail to provide you with results.
There are also other drugs on the market that can be of help to you if the step-up approach from SSRI's to Tricyclic antidepressants proves to be futile (wellbutrin, Desyrel, Effexor etc.).
Like I said before, even if you don't have insurance, you can no longer be denied medical assistance. As an American, if you are currently without insurance, you will be required to pay a fine at the end of the year, so what that technically means is that you DO have insurance and are only required to either pick a designated government plan and/or walk in for treatment at one of your local clinics that treat psychological disorders.
Feel free to PM me if you need help in establishing a healthcare insurance plan.
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No. No alcohol or drugs.
I will look into the insurance. Honestly, I've been wanting to talk to a psychiatrist for a while now.
Have you wronged someone else or just feel as though you've wronged yourself?
If someone else, is it possible to seek their forgiveness? If just you, is it possible to forgive yourself?
Does being in the company of others help? Family, friends, coworkers, folks at the gym, mall, movie theater, concert, etc...?
Do you have any pets? Dog, cat or other furry critter? Animals can be tremendously uplifting at times.
Do you make time to indulge yourself a bit each week....a big steak, heavy lifting, good movie, a new pair of Ottomix boots, a dozen powdered donuts, even a nap?
I like to keep music on that uplifts me all the time. If something is dark I leave it alone.
I also try to accomplish one small goal at a time regardless of the goal....I just complete something. Clean out a drawer, finish a book, buy a new fish for the aquarium.....little stuff.
Above all for me, it is about my faith....it center and uplifts me completely. Prayer, bible study, Christian music, worship....that's a tremendous personal outlet for me.
I've wronged someone I love dear. They won't forgive me.
That's just one of my problems but it is one of the main ones.
Have you wronged someone else or just feel as though you've wronged yourself?
If someone else, is it possible to seek their forgiveness? If just you, is it possible to forgive yourself?
Does being in the company of others help? Family, friends, coworkers, folks at the gym, mall, movie theater, concert, etc...?
Do you have any pets? Dog, cat or other furry critter? Animals can be tremendously uplifting at times.
Do you make time to indulge yourself a bit each week....a big steak, heavy lifting, good movie, a new pair of Ottomix boots, a dozen powdered donuts, even a nap?
I like to keep music on that uplifts me all the time. If something is dark I leave it alone.
I also try to accomplish one small goal at a time regardless of the goal....I just complete something. Clean out a drawer, finish a book, buy a new fish for the aquarium.....little stuff.
Above all for me, it is about my faith....it center and uplifts me completely. Prayer, bible study, Christian music, worship....that's a tremendous personal outlet for me.
I DON'T GET ANY RECOGNITION???? I TOLD YOU DICKHEAD, TAKE SOME SUPPS LIKE FISH OILS AND DO CARDIO AND YOU WILL FEEL AMAZING YOU DON'T NEED MEDS HAHAHAAAA
I take lots of fish oil and I do some circuit training for cardio. But honestly I don't have much desire to go to the gym much.
Shizzo?
Anyone else ever dealt with depression? Lately I've been feeling really down in the dumps. Not the normal feeling down but like a lower level of downess. Im just really sad. I'm not looking for anyones sympathy so please. im just curious if anyone has ever dealt with depression and how they deal with it. If I had insurance I would think about going to see a doc.look in the mirror be glad this isn't what's looking back at you.
That's just crazy-talk.
I've wronged someone I love dear. They won't forgive me.
That's just one of my problems but it is one of the main ones.
look in the mirror be glad this isn't what's looking back at you.
In all honesty, if you're suffering from depression, there are free clinics out there that will help you and with the affordable care act you can not be rejected, as technically you NOW have insurance. You can either opt for a specific plan or pay the tax fine at the end of the year, but nonetheless you are covered and will not be rejected.How do you not clearly see that this is yet another gimmick that needs to be placed in Time Out?
Seek a professional to speak with.
Discuss the various stressors in your life and your mechanisms used to cope.
Get out more for walks, exercise and even try picking up a new hobby that requires you to devote both mental and physical energy towards it. This often times allows your mind to become remolded and set your attention onto other things that can derail your overall depression. Any less time feeling depressed is time invested towards the right direction.
Change your diet. Reduce your overall intake of caffeine and processed foods. Try getting the recommended amount of sleep (6-8 hours every night).
If and when you find that resorting to the aforementioned tactics does not provide a decent level of progress, you might have to consider cognitive behavioral therapy and possibly pharmacotherapy down the line.
Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (Celexa, Zoloft, Paxil, Prozac & Lexapro) are very commonly used and have proven to provide a generous amount of resolve in those with depression.
Likewise, Tricyclic antidepressants (Elavil, Pamelor, Norpramin, Tofranil) can be used if therapy with the SSRI's mentioned above fail to provide you with results.
There are also other drugs on the market that can be of help to you if the step-up approach from SSRI's to Tricyclic antidepressants proves to be futile (wellbutrin, Desyrel, Effexor etc.).
Like I said before, even if you don't have insurance, you can no longer be denied medical assistance. As an American, if you are currently without insurance, you will be required to pay a fine at the end of the year, so what that technically means is that you DO have insurance and are only required to either pick a designated government plan and/or walk in for treatment at one of your local clinics that treat psychological disorders.
Feel free to PM me if you need help in establishing a healthcare insurance plan.
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Forgiveness is really more about the forgiver than the potentially forgiven. People hang on to things indefinitely, if not forever at times. It's unhealthy and a hindrance to moving forward. Pent up anger and hostility yields no good fruit.
If you're truly sorry and have sought to atone for that wrongdoing and the person you seek forgiveness from will not grant forgiveness then you simply can't do anymore. You can't spend your life in a state of moral debt to someone if you've honestly sought to make good for that wrong.
Now, being forgiven doesn't always equate to being deemed trustworthy again. Trust develops over time, but you have to help that person that you have wronged develop that trust little by little by little (even indirectly at times because they won't allow you to get close to them now). Between people, forgiveness and trust go hand in hand. Still, if you've done all you can with sincerity and that person cannot forgive then know you move forward with a clear conscience. Always know that even if another person refuses forgiveness that the Almighty will always provide the utmost forgiveness. ;)
it would be better if you talked to somebody you trust and respect in person rather than solicite many well meaning (one hopes) but some times contradicting suggestions.
what if its incorrectable?No such thing. You don't come into this life to tackle insurmountable tasks. If it were such case life would not have sense. Anything you face has a solution. We all made mistakes. Move on. But don't beat yourself over it.
Lots of truth here. I recently started looking at my faith or should i say my lack of and it opened my eyes. There are some problems that are just plain bigger than we can handle alone. This is where your faith comes in. If you believe that there is something (God, buddha, allah, whatever) I notice those people rarely are completely devastated by depression. It is knowing that there is something all powerful that will HELP, not cure, HELP you to get through whatever you are facing. Man of steel gave both of us some great advice and I for one intend to take it. I am tired of feeling horrible all the time. I intend to fix myself and become a better man and i cannot do that if I am weak and destroyed. I help no one in that condition. I hurt myself and the people who love me by being that way and accomplish nothing positive. Sometimes I need to get angry with my situation to put the appropriate effort into fixing it. Get motivated however you need to in order to get better. You cannot make ammends or truly apologize and fix things if you are in a full blown depression. Use that as motivation and when you start getting better the momentum will build.
No such thing. You don't come into this life to tackle insurmountable tasks. If it were such case life would not have sense. Anything you face has a solution.
I can only speak for myself, but the strife, angst, depression, jealousy, anger I faced so often in the past vanished when I surrendered to Jesus Christ. I promise not to get preachy here ;) but I when I hit rock bottom (I mean one foot in the grave rock bottom) and I surrendered to Lord.....BOOM.......his presence was revealed and the weight lifted. Man oh man, I was changed!!! Praise God!
Other people, new surroundings, a new hobby, a new job, etc.....are all great, uplifting things. I take nothing from them, but freedom.....true freedom......that comes from Christ. Feel free to PM me anytime.....I'm happy to share.
God Bless
I can only speak for myself, but the strife, angst, depression, jealousy, anger I faced so often in the past vanished when I surrendered to Jesus Christ. I promise not to get preachy here ;) but I when I hit rock bottom (I mean one foot in the grave rock bottom) and I surrendered to Lord.....BOOM.......his presence was revealed and the weight lifted. Man oh man, I was changed!!! Praise God!
Other people, new surroundings, a new hobby, a new job, etc.....are all great, uplifting things. I take nothing from them, but freedom.....true freedom......that comes from Christ. Feel free to PM me anytime.....I'm happy to share.
God Bless
Low intense cardio can help a loti dont know why, but this is true.
try it
That's an assumption, sir Funk.post one was the kidding post, post 2 was my serious one. ;D
Do not hesitate (and I mean this with no forum bias and with all foolishness aside) to reach out to me in private and I will do everything I can to help you.
Depression is a serious medical (psychological) condition and there are many resources out there available to you.
I will be glad to provide you with resources that you can employ to help. I also agree with the many suggestions provided in this thread.
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In all honesty, if you're suffering from depression, there are free clinics out there that will help you and with the affordable care act you can not be rejected, as technically you NOW have insurance. You can either opt for a specific plan or pay the tax fine at the end of the year, but nonetheless you are covered and will not be rejected.
Seek a professional to speak with.
Discuss the various stressors in your life and your mechanisms used to cope.
Get out more for walks, exercise and even try picking up a new hobby that requires you to devote both mental and physical energy towards it. This often times allows your mind to become remolded and set your attention onto other things that can derail your overall depression. Any less time feeling depressed is time invested towards the right direction.
Change your diet. Reduce your overall intake of caffeine and processed foods. Try getting the recommended amount of sleep (6-8 hours every night).
If and when you find that resorting to the aforementioned tactics does not provide a decent level of progress, you might have to consider cognitive behavioral therapy and possibly pharmacotherapy down the line.
Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (Celexa, Zoloft, Paxil, Prozac & Lexapro) are very commonly used and have proven to provide a generous amount of resolve in those with depression.
Likewise, Tricyclic antidepressants (Elavil, Pamelor, Norpramin, Tofranil) can be used if therapy with the SSRI's mentioned above fail to provide you with results.
There are also other drugs on the market that can be of help to you if the step-up approach from SSRI's to Tricyclic antidepressants proves to be futile (wellbutrin, Desyrel, Effexor etc.).
Like I said before, even if you don't have insurance, you can no longer be denied medical assistance. As an American, if you are currently without insurance, you will be required to pay a fine at the end of the year, so what that technically means is that you DO have insurance and are only required to either pick a designated government plan and/or walk in for treatment at one of your local clinics that treat psychological disorders.
Feel free to PM me if you need help in establishing a healthcare insurance plan.
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(http://i40.tinypic.com/a9yes4.jpg)
There is no way you didn't smile or laugh for at least a second at this. That is hope showing itself to you. You are not completely lost and neither am I. Ironmeister's shops are the most hilarious things I have ever seen. Iron is doing good for us all by showing us that it is not always dark no matter how bad we feel there are funny good happy things in the world and we can have them too.
i dont know why, but this is true.
the "high" you get from cardio has something magical to it.
but in order to even do the cardio,there must be some inner fire beforehand
Anything you face has a solution.
I can only speak for myself, but the strife, angst, depression, jealousy, anger I faced so often in the past vanished when I surrendered to Jesus Christ. I promise not to get preachy here ;) but I when I hit rock bottom (I mean one foot in the grave rock bottom) and I surrendered to Lord.....BOOM.......his presence was revealed and the weight lifted. Man oh man, I was changed!!! Praise God!
Other people, new surroundings, a new hobby, a new job, etc.....are all great, uplifting things. I take nothing from them, but freedom.....true freedom......that comes from Christ. Feel free to PM me anytime.....I'm happy to share.
God Bless
Same here. :)
Man of Steel ain't lying.
Psalm 147:3
He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds.
Alzheimers, pancreatic cancer? C'mon, dude.ANYTHING
Alzheimers, pancreatic cancer? C'mon, dude.
ANYTHING
In all honesty, if you're suffering from depression, there are free clinics out there that will help you and with the affordable care act you can not be rejected, as technically you NOW have insurance. You can either opt for a specific plan or pay the tax fine at the end of the year, but nonetheless you are covered and will not be rejected.OMR giving the best advice! Seek the help of a Psychologist and or Psychiatrist! Depression as in Clinical Depression is not something to be taken lightly!
Seek a professional to speak with.
Discuss the various stressors in your life and your mechanisms used to cope.
Get out more for walks, exercise and even try picking up a new hobby that requires you to devote both mental and physical energy towards it. This often times allows your mind to become remolded and set your attention onto other things that can derail your overall depression. Any less time feeling depressed is time invested towards the right direction.
Change your diet. Reduce your overall intake of caffeine and processed foods. Try getting the recommended amount of sleep (6-8 hours every night).
If and when you find that resorting to the aforementioned tactics does not provide a decent level of progress, you might have to consider cognitive behavioral therapy and possibly pharmacotherapy down the line.
Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (Celexa, Zoloft, Paxil, Prozac & Lexapro) are very commonly used and have proven to provide a generous amount of resolve in those with depression.
Likewise, Tricyclic antidepressants (Elavil, Pamelor, Norpramin, Tofranil) can be used if therapy with the SSRI's mentioned above fail to provide you with results.
There are also other drugs on the market that can be of help to you if the step-up approach from SSRI's to Tricyclic antidepressants proves to be futile (wellbutrin, Desyrel, Effexor etc.).
Like I said before, even if you don't have insurance, you can no longer be denied medical assistance. As an American, if you are currently without insurance, you will be required to pay a fine at the end of the year, so what that technically means is that you DO have insurance and are only required to either pick a designated government plan and/or walk in for treatment at one of your local clinics that treat psychological disorders.
Feel free to PM me if you need help in establishing a healthcare insurance plan.
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That's just crazy-talk.
Oh ya great advice, take some fucking drugs. Stop being such a pussy. Your depression is nothing but a choice on how you live your life. Take all this shit advice and its not going to stop. Read up on things like the laws of attraction. Your depressing thoughts are whats causing depression. Sit there and whine like a little bitch or grab your balls and act like a fucking man.
Been feeling lowish since competing at the weekend even though I won overall and walked away with money in hand, shows the pre contest zone was keeping me in a different state of mind and consciousness and thats what I enjoy most about competitive bodybuilding, hard to re adjust without the immanent event appoaching.yah one would think that after going full leans all dehydrated, a trance like state, that theyd feel happy as soon they drink and eat again.
Some good suggestions in this thread so far I will add meditation and yoga postures in to the mix also Irishdave was right in saying jerk off less, let that energy work in you to motivate you to do productive things and also reach out to a real woman for love affection and satisfying sex.
I have been battling severe depression for many years now, and let me tell you battling your mental demons is one of the hardest things in this world. You cannot escape yourself. I have suicidal thoughts every single day, and you get to the point your mind just drains all the life out of you.
jesus henry christ dude.. figure out whats wrong with you and get the help u need.i found-i know sounds easier than it is-relearning to be happy about small things in life helps being lucky thoughout the day.
i've been depressed for last 2 weeks, thought of offing myself about twice but things really aren't that bad. yet.
i found-i know sounds easier than it is-relearning to be happy about small things in life helps being lucky thoughout the day.
basicaly the opposite mindset to "reaching for the skies".
Hope this is a serious post because I will answer it like it is. I have and am suffering now. I know what you mean about knowing it is not the normal blues but much worse. You just know inside it is not normal. I did go to a shrink on was put on medication and looking back I am not sure how much it helped. It may or may not have. All I know is that it was not easy by any means. I found that there were certain people who could just make me feel better and "forget" about it all while I was with them. Seek these people out and be around them whenever possible. I wish I had a concrete answer to give you about how to get through it but there is none other than if you feel it is going too far into the darkness and you are going to hurt yourself, go to a hospital tell them what you are thinking and let them help you. Other than that, try to find anything positive that does not hurt others that you can do to boost your mood. There are supplements and drugs that help but they are not a cure. The only cure is unfortunately time because it feels like it will never end. It does though. Good luck to us both, I know I need it.well when humans realize they are useless and nobody cares about them, when they figure they re lacking stuff they ll never be able to get, they get "depressed". It s when you realize we re just animals. You dont need an horrible life to be depressed, just like you dont need to be rich to be happy. Being depressed is genetical, and failing or suffering too much for too long makes you slowly sink into despair. So you stick to your hobbies, etc you do the things that make you feel good, hoping to reach the next top of the wave, then a failure, and you down again, and again, like a rollercoaster. How to stay aways at the top?
Try looking at IronMeister's photoshops if you need a laugh. I don't care how depressed I am, seeing all his Tbombz photoshops makes me laugh every time.yeah laughing at other people problems and feeling better than them is a powerful anti depressant. The irony is that when you re depressed, people can tell, smell it , just like fear, and feel better about their lives too, just looking at you, and you know it.
well when humans realize they are useless and nobody cares about them, when they figure they re lacking stuff they ll never be able to get, they get "depressed". It s when you realize we re just animals. You dont need an horrible life to be depressed, just like you dont need to be rich to be happy. Being depressed is genetical, and failing or suffering too much for too long makes you slowly sink into despair. So you stick to your hobbies, etc you do the things that make you feel good, hoping to reach the next top of the wave, then a failure, and you down again, and again, like a rollercoaster. How to stay aways at the top?Cliff notes fag! No way that is one paragraph
I d say find things to do you really love, you re passionate about, create, get in the flow of the process, it's called the sublimation process; it acts as a drug, an anti depressant; just like any other activity. It helps numbing your senses , you know the whole thing is vain and cruel, but at least you re in your little bubble doing your thing, it encourages dopamine, serotonin production in your brain and you dont care aymore. You then build projects, hopes, you visualize stuff you want to reach, and voila, you re not depressed anymore, and you enjoy going to work and facing people daily who want to kill you , with more ease. They re just a mean to an end, the end being you doing the stuff you like. Problem is when you have nothing you like , feel good doing, and only have a shit job and maybe a shit lonely life with no woman or kids or family. Hobbies and personal proejcts, goals, are important. You cant feel happy just emptying your balls, drinking, eating, lifting weights, working, you need something more, you need the whole package. Also not sure if it s of any help but, look at people around you ; most are as depressed as you. And we all have the same strategies to cope with that inner deep sadness. I think that creating stuff whatever what you create is very important. At the end of the day tho, we re still all animals fighting each others randomly and indefinitely to death while pretending otherwise. That's the bottom , dead end of deep thinking, you cant go further. It s also a normal process to realize the limitations of what human life has to offer. Some are more limited than others, its unfair. As you age you have less and less oportunities and less and less stamina. Most people stick to doing what thy always liked to do, their little daily routine.
i agree, studs really have nothing to be depressed about.. all made up in your head.nah was serious, had to come down from the life in the skies
u are just a jaded sob gal
Anyone else ever dealt with depression? Lately I've been feeling really down in the dumps. Not the normal feeling down but like a lower level of downess. Im just really sad. I'm not looking for anyones sympathy so please. im just curious if anyone has ever dealt with depression and how they deal with it. If I had insurance I would think about going to see a doc.You are depressed because you are a deeply self centred douchebag with little to no substance. Your obsessive concern for yourself has rendered you miserable. Hope this helps ;D
If you are past the age of 30 and don't suffer from some form of depression you are either an idiot or you are in denial. Maybe both.
This is normal dude. Try to find something or someone to spice things up. It'll pass.
wolf and shizz need to post at the same time
wolf and shizz need to post at the same timeWhat???? Are you questioning my honesty?
No way shizz. I am trying to prove to every one that you are not a liar. I had your back. I said that you do not have any fake accounts. I almost got banned over helping you. Do not make me be the liar. I trust you. Wolf is another person. He should post to get your back and prove that you are not lying and hence making me be a liar too.Thanks. We just have to wait for Wiggs to log in.
I am not asking him to out him self. If he does not want to say who he is, that is fine. I just want him to post at the same time as you and prove to every one that you are not him. I vouched for you. You gave me your word. I trust you. I trust your word.
I am not asking him to out him self. If he does not want to say who he is, that is fine. I just want him to post at the same time as you and prove to every one that you are not him. I vouched for you. You gave me your word. I trust you. I trust your word.Lmao!! Dude...come on, get a grip on yourself here. ;D
Lmao!! Dude...come on, get a grip on yourself here. ;DLeave him alone Chaos. He is an honest person. A rarity here. I know I am not Wolfox. He knows that I am not Wolfox.
Shizz would not do that.Arce.....really? Really? Come on...
My advice would be to get a dog. Take it on walks, play with it, and love it. Having a cool dog is a great anti-depressant.
Arce.....really? Really? Come on...Arce is the one innocent who I would not mess with. Leave him alone.
Arce needs to reevaluate his rules for friendship.
Yes. He shouldnt be an arce-hole.He shouldn't ass-ociate with arceholes either.
Arce needs to reevaluate his rules for friendship.Really? Are you rich Chaos? You surely invented the shade.
You shouldn't be concerned about me, this is about Arce and his inability to choose his associations better.There is one thing I know. Arce is far better off with a guy like me.
There is one thing I know. Arce is far better off with a guy like me.
You calling me gay? The shoe doesn't fit.Bwawaahahahhhahaaaahahahahahaha
Leave him alone Chaos. He is an honest person. A rarity here. I know I am not Wolfox. He knows that I am not Wolfox.
We have a bond.
All I can say is if you think depression is caused by something you haven`t actually been depressed.
My advice would be to get a dog. Take it on walks, play with it, and love it. Having a cool dog is a great anti-depressant.
Anyone else ever dealt with depression? Lately I've been feeling really down in the dumps. Not the normal feeling down but like a lower level of downess. Im just really sad. I'm not looking for anyones sympathy so please. im just curious if anyone has ever dealt with depression and how they deal with it. If I had insurance I would think about going to see a doc.
Exactly. It's an organic brain malfunction, and it sucks more than anything you can imagine. It's absolutely debilitating. None of the advice here would do a thing to help overcome it, unfortunately. I don't think this is the kind he's dealing with, though, not from what he posts.Agreed. Nothing more patronizing than someone saying `your just having a bad time things will get better`. When that bad time started when I was about 4.
Another thread ruined by this fag.Your enemies, watch the fuck out.
Who let this dipshit out of his cage?
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When you realize that you are just as full of shit as everyone else that walks the planet, you can take yourself a little less seriously and coping with the chaos becomes less stressful. The problem is that a lot of people are so self centered that they will never come to the conclusion that they are full of shit until it's usually to late. To late is when your health really goes like D.Anthony. He is a great case study of a guy who even when close to dying won't allow himself to see how full of shit he's really been his whole life.
The bottom line is what a few people have said already: at a certain point in your life when you stop fooling yourself and get real about things you realize that not everything can or will be perfect. There can be perfect moments, but they never last. For me the biggest thing I need to work on is not hating myself. I too lost the best person in my entire life and blame myself for it. It hurts so much I cannot even describe it. Maybe you will have some comfort in knowing that I and many others can relate to what you feel. I cannot give you a cure for this pain because I would use it if I knew it. We just need to be strong and have faith in God that we will get through this as long as we don't quit. I wish you the best.
How does that prove anything? He could post under one acct from a desktop and another from a phone.
To those suffering from depression, seek professional help. Find a church near you that offers free counseling if you can't afford professional help. Give reading the Bible daily and prayer a try. It changed my life. Seek Jesus Christ. He changed my life. Also:
The Keys to Happiness (From Scientific Studies)
• Make lists of things for which you're grateful in your life
• Practice random acts of kindness
• Forgive your enemies
• Notice life's small pleasures
• Take care of your health
• Practice positive thinking
• Invest time and energy into friendships and family.
Man, fuck all that shit
The Keys to Happiness (From Getbig Studies)
• Fuck bitches
• Get money
Lexapro. 20mg. It will change your life. PM me.
like doc said... lift, fuck, make money.
Lexapro did absolutely nothing for me. One time I went to a therapist and she told me the reason I was depressed was because I did not have God in my life.
Lexapro did absolutely nothing for me. One time I went to a therapist and she told me the reason I was depressed was because I did not have God in my life.
To those suffering from depression, seek professional help. Find a church near you that offers free counseling if you can't afford professional help. Give reading the Bible daily and prayer a try. It changed my life. Seek Jesus Christ. He changed my life. Also:And the award for the most useless and cliche advice goes to!
The Keys to Happiness (From Scientific Studies)
• Make lists of things for which you're grateful in your life
• Practice random acts of kindness
• Forgive your enemies
• Notice life's small pleasures
• Take care of your health
• Practice positive thinking
• Invest time and energy into friendships and family.
And the award for the most useless and cliche advice goes to!
Anyone else ever dealt with depression? Lately I've been feeling really down in the dumps. Not the normal feeling down but like a lower level of downess. Im just really sad. I'm not looking for anyones sympathy so please. im just curious if anyone has ever dealt with depression and how they deal with it. If I had insurance I would think about going to see a doc.
Wolfox is depressed because he is simply a selfish arsehole. Some people just lack character and are shallow human beings and don't recognise it. These people don't deserve happiness. Wolfox is getting exactly what he deserves. (Ratard also).I disagree. I take what he says seriously. You idea of tough love maybe reflect how you were raised or what you despise in yourself.
My advice, practice some self reflection and develop the ability to become MORE aware of yourself, you will find you are a massive unlikable arsehole (your own unconscious self despises you, although you remain unaware of it) and this has greatly contributed to your misery. Finding out who you are, even if that means learning your a massive prick will bring some relief. Hope this helps
I disagree. I take what he says seriously. You idea of tough love maybe reflect how you were raised or what you despise in yourself.I take depression seriously, just not the depression of deluded morons. I just think Wolfox's problem is he is a self centred arsehole and he doesn't realise it, that's why he is miserable. I've been depressed, a lot of people have. Wolfox should get help if that's the case, not take it too an Internet forum. My advice for Wolfox to cure his depression would be to kill himself, that way we wouldn't have to listen to the idiot drone on about his problems. ;D
I take depression seriously, just not the depression of deluded morons. I just think Wolfox's problem is he is a self centred arsehole and he doesn't realise it, that's why he is miserable. I've been depressed, a lot of people have. Wolfox should get help if that's the case, not take it too an Internet forum. My advice for Wolfox to cure his depression would be to kill himself, that way we wouldn't have to listen to the idiot drone on about his problems. ;DYou have much to learn still in this life.
You have much to learn still in this life.Don't we all ;D
As advised by some here I have been seeking inspiration in religion.Islam is the perfect choice for self centred arseholes, you can remain the miserable cun+ you are, but at least now with Islam you can justify it.
I was raised Christian but the words, passion and imagery in this video have touched me. The message here is very similar to what I learned growing up while going to sunday bible study.
Don't we all ;Dtrue
Islam is the perfect choice for self centred arseholes, you can remain the miserable cun+ you are, but at least now with Islam you can justify it.
I didn't say I was converting to Islam or anything like that. Its just the message of forgiveness touched me and reminded me of what I learned growing up in Christianity.Sounds like an emotional reply. Can't argue with someone crying.
Also, you seem to be a hateful little man. Maybe you need some Jesus in your life.
I think one of the most disgusting aspects of religion is the idea of being forgiven for your sins, to cast your sins onto an imaginary scapegoat won't help you take responsibility. Vicarious redemption sets up a belief system that gives one permission to harm others based on the belief they won't have to pay for it if they only seek divine forgiveness. One should suffer after harming another (unless harming the other was justified), they should feel the wrath of such action, this is where the lesson is learned. If one is too simply cast aside one's sins and forget about them because they believe they have been forgiven, they will remain wretched and unconsciously tortured by their deeds.
If you have wronged someone, it is their forgiveness you need, if they won't forgive you then redeem yourself in their eyes. If none of that is possible at least try and not behave like that again. Hold onto the pangs of guilt and shame, it is these feelings that will potentially prevent you from repeating the same sins over and over again.
Oh, and I just hate self centred arseholes who have no self awareness. Personally, I hope you kill yourself. ;D
Actually we are taught that there are several steps before forgiveness can be granted. It's not as easy as asking god to forgive.You need to forgive and forget .. simple .. nobody will do it for you
You need to forgive and forget .. simple .. nobody will do it for you
You need to forgive and forget .. simple .. nobody will do it for youForgiveness is such a vague concept. I suppose it could be described as no longer wanting vengeance on the perpetrator of harm upon oneself. The problem is the majority of people have no idea the harm they cause others, due to psychological defenses most people justify beliefs or actions that lead to others suffering. Forgiveness should be coupled with redemption and only stopped when the victim is satisfied the other will no longer cause them harm or distress.
So true. But first there must be redemption. Only then I can free my mind.My friend, don't quote a man who beat his wife and cheated on her many time, a drug addict who sings about one love bla bla .. he was a puppet.
"Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds!" - Bob Marley
Forgiveness is such a vague concept. I suppose it could be described as no longer wanting vengeance on the perpetrator of harm upon oneself. The problem is the majority of people have no idea the harm they cause others, due to psychological defenses most people justify beliefs or actions that lead to others suffering. Forgiveness should be coupled with redemption and only stopped when the victim is satisfied the other will no longer cause them harm or distress.Many words that don't say much. I cannot pour the ocean in a glass of water. Learn first what chicken is ;D
Considering this, I think it is impossible (even unnatural) to forgive or forget those who have harmed us or continue to do so without apology and redemption. The best one can hope to achieve is becoming accustomed to sitting with such strong emotion without taking it out on innocent parties.
Many words that don't say much. I cannot pour the ocean in a glass of water. Learn first what chicken is ;DNobody wants your ocean or for you to fill their glass, you have little to offer. You love to sell yourself as some type of spiritual guru. We are all human, revenge, hatred and all things nasty are part of the human condition, you are not above it and you certainly haven't transcended it. The most spiritual beings are the most human, not those who pretend to be above the human condition floating above everyone else.
Nobody wants your ocean or for you to fill their glass, you have little to offer.Since when blind men have become art critics? ;D
Falcon has spoken.... thread
Also good stuff from Falcon. Keep the mind busy.keep it busy but then go back to simpler familiar fun times/daily routines that you like man, give the advanced theories a rest for a few days
To those suffering from depression, seek professional help. Find a church near you that offers free counseling if you can't afford professional help. Give reading the Bible daily and prayer a try. It changed my life. Seek Jesus Christ. He changed my life. Also:
The Keys to Happiness (From Scientific Studies)
• Make lists of things for which you're grateful in your life
• Practice random acts of kindness
• Forgive your enemies
• Notice life's small pleasures
• Take care of your health
• Practice positive thinking
• Invest time and energy into friendships and family.
And the award for the most useless and cliche advice goes to!
I was thinking the same. Prayer, yep, that should help.
To those suffering from depression, seek professional help. Find a church near you that offers free counseling if you can't afford professional help. Give reading the Bible daily and prayer a try. It changed my life. Seek Jesus Christ. He changed my life. Also:Falcon principles.
The Keys to Happiness (From Scientific Studies)
• Make lists of things for which you're grateful in your life
• Practice random acts of kindness
• Forgive your enemies
• Notice life's small pleasures
• Take care of your health
• Practice positive thinking
• Invest time and energy into friendships and family.
To those suffering from depression, seek professional help. Find a church near you that offers free counseling if you can't afford professional help. Give reading the Bible daily and prayer a try. It changed my life. Seek Jesus Christ. He changed my life. Also:
The Keys to Happiness (From Scientific Studies)
• Make lists of things for which you're grateful in your life
• Practice random acts of kindness
• Forgive your enemies
• Notice life's small pleasures
• Take care of your health
• Practice positive thinking
• Invest time and energy into friendships and family.
I know I will get bashed..I don't care. But maybe God is convicting u. Ask him to forgive u
.yes I m being serious
Depression is a part of life IMO. One doesn't need do anything when depressed, just continue living is all. Nothing remains constant, you may even become more depressed and wish you were only as depressed as you were yesterday. If your depression bothers you that much, learn more about the subject. A deep understanding of a subject can bring great calm and relief. There are literally tons of books on the matter. If it is a spiritual outlook on the matter you are after, read "The art of happiness" or the more recent 'The Happiness Hypothesis.' There are no guarantees in life, no full proof way to become happy. Anyway, happiness isn't a necessary ingredient to live a fulfilling life, there are greater things than happiness in life I believe. There is nothing to say that a fulfilling life won't be filled with difficulty, sadness and tragedy.well buddhism principles were great and helping me a lot, until i figured someone who wants to hurt, kill you doesnt care about it, which makes it invalid; sometimes in life nice words and all that crap cannot sustain, protect your own life. I dont know if christianism comes up with the same kind of stuff "love you enemy, be nice even when people arent nice to you; nothing matters, nothing makes sense, just enjoy life as much as you can without hurting others" and so on.
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Falcon principles.
I know a number of you simply batted loco's post aside as meaningless, but to me that speaks volumes.
The keys presented here appear so simple, but are completely profound. These "meaningless, cliche" practices are ignored by so many it's ridiculous and yet are so crucial to helping alleviate so many of the stresses of life.
There's a significant difference between "down in the dumps" depression and "chemically imbalanced" depression. With a physically healthy brain these keys are an absolute cure-all, but some are sick and need medical attention and medication....nothing to be ashamed of either!!
Happiness is not about "just do 1-2-3" and suddenly rainbows and skittles start flyin outta your butthole. The principles are about a shift in your total perception. They're about how you operate and approach every facet of every day.
And what comes before the "keys"? The rock, the foundation, the cornerstone....that my friends is big JC!! He is the core and source of my personal strength and I love him for it. The day I surrendered to Christ's will for my life is the day my mind was healed. Anxiety and depression or being "down in the dumps" are things of the past for me and my life stressors have only increased since that time LOL!!
How I approach each day and every person in it is different now that it was before. I desire to the become the "salt and light" for the world. In the past, I clung to those that were positive and searched them out amidst my depression and stress repeatedly. It wasn't until Christ did a mighty work in me that I both realized and desired to become exactly what I sought in others in the past.
Those "cliche keys", they are an overflowing fountain of happiness and I can personally attest to EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM!
MOS has helped me a lot these past few days. Until very recently I had lost my faith and that was not God's fault it was mine. I was in the worst condition spiritually, emotionally, and psychologically that i have ever been in. I prayed for help and went to church for the first time since childhood. Mock me all you want, but I saw the light finally. There is hope for the most wretched and tormented of us all. You just need to stop closing your heart and accept that God WILL guide you and make you stronger. It is not some psychological trick, it is real. If you are truly clinically depressed, get medical help like MOS said, but if it is a spiritual depression you are in ask God for help. I am not instantly cured or suddenly better than anyone else, but I am better than the guy I used to be. I finally woke up and saw that God does not hate me, He does not want me to suffer, He wants me to live in the light and the only way is through his Grace. I finally get it. It took me 35 years, but I get it. To anyone who is in chaos and torment, God is closest to you at that exact moment. Ask Him to give you strength.
MOS has helped me a lot these past few days. Until very recently I had lost my faith and that was not God's fault it was mine. I was in the worst condition spiritually, emotionally, and psychologically that i have ever been in. I prayed for help and went to church for the first time since childhood. Mock me all you want, but I saw the light finally. There is hope for the most wretched and tormented of us all. You just need to stop closing your heart and accept that God WILL guide you and make you stronger. It is not some psychological trick, it is real. If you are truly clinically depressed, get medical help like MOS said, but if it is a spiritual depression you are in ask God for help. I am not instantly cured or suddenly better than anyone else, but I am better than the guy I used to be. I finally woke up and saw that God does not hate me, He does not want me to suffer, He wants me to live in the light and the only way is through his Grace. I finally get it. It took me 35 years, but I get it. To anyone who is in chaos and torment, God is closest to you at that exact moment. Ask Him to give you strength.
U sound batshit crazy.
Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
Sounds like an emotional reply. Can't argue with someone crying.
I think one of the most disgusting aspects of religion is the idea of being forgiven for your sins, to cast your sins onto an imaginary scapegoat won't help you take responsibility. Vicarious redemption sets up a belief system that gives one permission to harm others based on the belief they won't have to pay for it if they only seek divine forgiveness. One should suffer after harming another (unless harming the other was justified), they should feel the wrath of such action, this is where the lesson is learned. If one is too simply cast aside one's sins and forget about them because they believe they have been forgiven, they will remain wretched and unconsciously tortured by their deeds.
If you have wronged someone, it is their forgiveness you need, if they won't forgive you then redeem yourself in their eyes. If none of that is possible at least try and not behave like that again. Hold onto the pangs of guilt and shame, it is these feelings that will potentially prevent you from repeating the same sins over and over again.
Oh, and I just hate self centred arseholes who have no self awareness. Personally, I hope you kill yourself. ;D
Sounds like an emotional reply. Can't argue with someone crying.
I think one of the most disgusting aspects of religion is the idea of being forgiven for your sins, to cast your sins onto an imaginary scapegoat won't help you take responsibility. Vicarious redemption sets up a belief system that gives one permission to harm others based on the belief they won't have to pay for it if they only seek divine forgiveness. One should suffer after harming another (unless harming the other was justified), they should feel the wrath of such action, this is where the lesson is learned. If one is too simply cast aside one's sins and forget about them because they believe they have been forgiven, they will remain wretched and unconsciously tortured by their deeds.
If you have wronged someone, it is their forgiveness you need, if they won't forgive you then redeem yourself in their eyes. If none of that is possible at least try and not behave like that again. Hold onto the pangs of guilt and shame, it is these feelings that will potentially prevent you from repeating the same sins over and over again.
Oh, and I just hate self centred arseholes who have no self awareness. Personally, I hope you kill yourself. ;D
Oh wow, I would have been cheering you on a while ago and I would have been as wrong as you are. Forgiveness has nothing to do with shrugging off your responsibility in the matter, quite the opposite. It is owning up to what you did and proclaiming that you are sorry. You don't just pass off the blame onto God, you ask Him to help you make things right. You still have to do it, you just ask for help. There is a lot of bitterness and resentment in your words. I was just like you and I hated myself. I lost the only person I ever loved because of my anger and resentment. I am in agony over it, but I know that i can get through it now. I tried for so long alone and I only fell further into darkness. Holding onto feelings of guilt and shame like you say are exactly what held me in the state of perpetual torture I was in. There is absolutely nothing worthwhile to staying like that. I say all these things because I see my old hate-filled, sad, lonely self in your words. I truly hope you find your way out of the darkness you are in. It may take time, I know it took me a while, but I finally see it. And your last statement was truly wrong in the most hateful way. I will not judge you but you should think about what you just said there. Good luck E-kul.
MOS has helped me a lot these past few days. Until very recently I had lost my faith and that was not God's fault it was mine. I was in the worst condition spiritually, emotionally, and psychologically that i have ever been in. I prayed for help and went to church for the first time since childhood. Mock me all you want, but I saw the light finally. There is hope for the most wretched and tormented of us all. You just need to stop closing your heart and accept that God WILL guide you and make you stronger. It is not some psychological trick, it is real. If you are truly clinically depressed, get medical help like MOS said, but if it is a spiritual depression you are in ask God for help. I am not instantly cured or suddenly better than anyone else, but I am better than the guy I used to be. I finally woke up and saw that God does not hate me, He does not want me to suffer, He wants me to live in the light and the only way is through his Grace. I finally get it. It took me 35 years, but I get it. To anyone who is in chaos and torment, God is closest to you at that exact moment. Ask Him to give you strength.I'm always in chaos....all gods fault.
I'm always in chaos....all gods fault.
i thought you were always in chiro :-X
It's not torture, just man up and deal with it. And dago is full of shit . He is simply pissed off because he acted like a cun+ and lost someone he cared about, he is upset that he feels punished for this. He doesn't seek forgiveness, he simply wants to not hurt anymore because of him acting like a twat, but if he pushed others way with his anger and hostility, he deserves what he gets. Dago, now that he has found the light sounds more tormented than ever.
how long ago did this happen Dago?
i'm going through the same thing right now, and the worst part is the only one u can blame is yourself which is utter torture.
i thought you were always in chiro :-XNow that was funny ;D
Poor chiro...the new Y guy getting passed around.
Prayer is really helpful. If you're in a depressed state, your body and mind will resist prayer but keep trying.Prayer doesn't work. It's simply wishful thinking for the ignorant. If prayer worked nobody would have any problems. Prayer has been debunked in so many studies as too not even be funny.
Breath deeply and focus on the lower part of your body (to even out all the tension from your upper part, e.g. focus on feeling the blood flow in your legs). When praying, pray for OTHER PEOPLE more than for yourself. Think your way into their heart and soul and be as sincere as you can be. I am Christian so I use the Trinity, sometimes I feel like I am addressing the Father, sometimes the Son, and sometimes the Holy Spirit. I know this sounds very corny but I have found that prayer can really get us outside ourselves, and thus helps with the blues.
Prayer is really helpful. If you're in a depressed state, your body and mind will resist prayer but keep trying.
Breath deeply and focus on the lower part of your body (to even out all the tension from your upper part, e.g. focus on feeling the blood flow in your legs). When praying, pray for OTHER PEOPLE more than for yourself. Think your way into their heart and soul and be as sincere as you can be. I am Christian so I use the Trinity, sometimes I feel like I am addressing the Father, sometimes the Son, and sometimes the Holy Spirit. I know this sounds very corny but I have found that prayer can really get us outside ourselves, and thus helps with the blues.
Well said Sir, every word is right, YES pray for other people, it cannot be ME ME ME, I always wish others the best, even competitors, or people I don't get along with, I pray for them, I feel amazing every day.
overthinking/getting into avanced theories aka falcon territory can lead one open for depression
while it is great to compile advanced theories, you move past your daily simple life routine of just enjoying life as you did when you were a kid
so when your depressed just do simple minded things and not think too much, just enjoy whatever your doing, when in depression is not a time to be too 'advanced' in your way of thinking
there is a time to be advanced and open up to all the possibilites and be vulnerable to a quick onset of depression out of nowhere. just have this 'advanced thought' undercontrol where you can block it out and revert back to simpilar times or simpler ways
Well said Sir, every word is right, YES pray for other people, it cannot be ME ME ME, I always wish others the best, even competitors, or people I don't get along with, I pray for them, I feel amazing every day.Oh Brother! You pray for other people because it makes you feel good, it is just another form of ME ME ME ! And praying for people who given a chance would crush you into oblivion goes against nature, it's an absurd act that your enemies would laugh at and see it is a pathetic weakness. You feel amazing everyday because you are a spoiled and protected first world westerner whose greatest dilemma is deciding on what type of 42 different styles of coffee you want during your morning tea break.
Great advice, and you set a great example -- in being a simpleton, that is.
Are you closed minded or stupid? You can be both too.
Didnt you sack a fatty because she was fat?Then laughed at her?lol
Oh Brother! You pray for other people because it makes you feel good, it is just another form of ME ME ME ! And praying for people who given a chance would crush you into oblivion goes against nature, it's an absurd act that your enemies would laugh at and see it is a pathetic weakness. You feel amazing everyday because you are a spoiled and protected first world westerner whose greatest dilemma is deciding on what type of 42 different styles of coffee you want during your morning tea break.
Prayer is really helpful. If you're in a depressed state, your body and mind will resist prayer but keep trying.
Breath deeply and focus on the lower part of your body (to even out all the tension from your upper part, e.g. focus on feeling the blood flow in your legs). When praying, pray for OTHER PEOPLE more than for yourself. Think your way into their heart and soul and be as sincere as you can be. I am Christian so I use the Trinity, sometimes I feel like I am addressing the Father, sometimes the Son, and sometimes the Holy Spirit. I know this sounds very corny but I have found that prayer can really get us outside ourselves, and thus helps with the blues.
Prayer doesn't work. It's simply wishful thinking for the ignorant. If prayer worked nobody would have any problems. Prayer has been debunked in so many studies as too not even be funny.
Save your time and learn about whatever condition afflicts you, education and knowledge will provide far greater benefit than wishing it wasn't so.
Yes I did, she was a slob and lazy, you would fire her too, but I wish shes a millionaire now.Maybe you should have prayed for her to become motivated and efficient, would have saved you sacking her. Or does prayer only work on certain things.
Oh Brother! You pray for other people because it makes you feel good, it is just another form of ME ME ME ! And praying for people who given a chance would crush you into oblivion goes against nature, it's an absurd act that your enemies would laugh at and see it is a pathetic weakness. You feel amazing everyday because you are a spoiled and protected first world westerner whose greatest dilemma is deciding on what type of 42 different styles of coffee you want during your morning tea break.
It's not torture, just man up and deal with it. And dago is full of shit . He is simply pissed off because he acted like a cun+ and lost someone he cared about, he is upset that he feels punished for this. He doesn't seek forgiveness, he simply wants to not hurt anymore because of him acting like a twat, but if he pushed others way with his anger and hostility, he deserves what he gets. Dago, now that he has found the light sounds more tormented than ever.
Forgiveness, simply described it's letting go of wanting revenge on the other (it has nothing to do with God). So if you are seeking forgiveness from someone else you have to redeem yourself, if they still don't let go of their resentment towards you there isn't much you can do. Life isn't perfect, and it is more about learning to live with complex emotions than it is being restored to a balanced equilibrium.
Darkness has a stronghold on you my friend. The twisted truth you often present attests to it.
It sincerely pains me to witness it because I believe you to be a good man.
It had one on me once before and Jesus Christ took it from me. You and I have spoken before and I'm happy to do it again.
how did jesus take it from you
do you mean your belief in him gave you the strength to change
it might be argued that you always had that inner strength just needed a catalyst
which in your case just happened to be religion
Darkness has a stronghold on you my friend. The twisted truth you often present attests to it.If it comforts you to believe that fine. I see religion as poison and those who follow it as miserable lost souls. And religion and prayer don't even deserve to be called a twisted version of truth, they are boldface lies. Just as you see me in darkness, that's the way I see you and other people so taken with religion. I am happy with the level of awareness and enlightenment I have attained. I walk around with eyes wide open, I have no need for others pity and I accept life the way it is and not the way I want it to be.
It sincerely pains me to witness it because I believe you to be a good man.
It had one on me once before and Jesus Christ took it from me. You and I have spoken before and I'm happy to do it again.
Maybe you should have prayed for her to become motivated and efficient, would have saved you sacking her. Or does prayer only work on certain things.
how long ago did this happen Dago?
i'm going through the same thing right now, and the worst part is the only one u can blame is yourself which is utter torture.
It all ended at the end of June. I was so fucking out of my mind with the drugs and everything going on. I ended up not just losing her, but nearly my life in the process. It is the worst feeling to blame yourself for it all. It is so hard to point to someone you truly love and say that they wronged you and that they were also to blame for what went wrong. It is easier in a sick way to just torture yourself. I struggle so much with it to this day, but I am getting better and my faith has been a huge part of that improvement. I feel for you man because I know firsthand the pain that goes with it. I am trying to focus on a more positive future rather than blame for the past.we all make mistakes, but some more than others, bigger ones than others; we cant always correct them, so we have to move on even with huge regrets that slowly kill us for the rest of our lives. So the best is to avoid big regrets and big mistakes; it requires great support and great choices.
I was in the lowest point in my life and was contemplating suicide daily. I was already slowly dying and didn't know it (results of injury and surgery....longer story ;). I was fully depressed, angry, bitter and fearful. I was irrational and unloving and ready to be done with it all. The bleakest moments would come and go, but the darkness enveloped me when alone at night.....it was a tangible presence of oppression outside of myself I didn't choose but had a stronghold on me.
Finally in desperation I surrendered to the Lord and his glory and presence enveloped me and filled me and chased away the oppression and illogical dread. I didn't will away the oppression.....I was delivered from it!! All I did was call upon on the Lord in humility, in faith and in surrender and his powerful presence caused the darkness to flee!!
From that point forward I was changed and I now live for the Lord and encourage others to do the same.
Religion, or let's say, SPIRITUALITY is a major matter... as we said it in another thread, we re all animals struggling to insure our survival, but the way we survive , the way we dominate, submit, cooperate or flee is underlined by our deep beliefs and values = one's spiritual beliefs. For some reasons tho going into this get some people very angry. Funny, i wonder why ::)
Gee, can't you discuss anything else BUT religion? Is your brain and mind that small that you cannot think or talk about anything else?
I feel really sorry for you. :-\ :-\
Religion, or let's say, SPIRITUALITY is a major matter... as we said it in another thread, we re all animals struggling to insure our survival, but the way we survive , the way we dominate, submit, cooperate or flee is underlined by our deep beliefs and values = one's spiritual beliefs. For some reasons tho going into this get some people very angry. Funny, i wonder why ::)What a load of shit! Spirituality is IRRELEVANT, it is superfluous to the human condition and if anything is nothing more than an impediment. Just look at the animal kingdom, it gets along just fine without any supernatural beliefs. A human being could live there whole life and never hear of scripture or god or jesus and wouldn''t be affected, they would be none the wiser. Religion is simply a crutch for the weak. PERIOD !
What a load of shit! Spirituality is IRRELEVANT, it is superfluous to the human condition and if anything is nothing more than an impediment. Just look at the animal kingdom, it gets along just fine without any supernatural beliefs. A human being could live there whole life and never hear of scripture or god or jesus and wouldn''t be affected, they would be none the wiser. Religion is simply a crutch for the weak. PERIOD !So you re strong cause you re a die hard atheist, and all weak believers are your enemies right? ;)
Religion and Spirituality is made for morons by morons.i thinks its made by smart ppl for dumb ppl :D
What a load of shit! Spirituality is IRRELEVANT, it is superfluous to the human condition and if anything is nothing more than an impediment. Just look at the animal kingdom, it gets along just fine without any supernatural beliefs. A human being could live there whole life and never hear of scripture or god or jesus and wouldn''t be affected, they would be none the wiser. Religion is simply a crutch for the weak. PERIOD !
So you re strong cause you re a die hard atheist, and all weak believers are your enemies right? ;)Being an atheist has nothing to do with it, I don't even identify with atheism. I lean more towards agnosticism. But yes, I am stronger than those who don't have the constitution to deal with life and it's harsh realities without believing in fantasy and the power of wishful thinking. God botherers are like mommys boys, incapable of letting go of their mothers apron strings.
It's not torture, just man up and deal with it. And dago is full of shit . He is simply pissed off because he acted like a cun+ and lost someone he cared about, he is upset that he feels punished for this. He doesn't seek forgiveness, he simply wants to not hurt anymore because of him acting like a twat, but if he pushed others way with his anger and hostility, he deserves what he gets. Dago, now that he has found the light sounds more tormented than ever.
Forgiveness, simply described it's letting go of wanting revenge on the other (it has nothing to do with God). So if you are seeking forgiveness from someone else you have to redeem yourself, if they still don't let go of their resentment towards you there isn't much you can do. Life isn't perfect, and it is more about learning to live with complex emotions than it is being restored to a balanced equilibrium.
Oh wow dude, where does all this hatred and bitterness come from? So according to you if I apologize for what i did and try to fix things, I am only doing it to make myself feel better? Hey buddy, do me a favor: speak for yourself all you want, but don't ever put words in my mouth. How the fuck do you know if I am repentant or not? I seek forgiveness for the reason that any good person would: because i truly am sorry i hurt her in any way and will do anything to make things better or right again. How in the fuck do you think that is selfish? I am believing you are trolling now. I said I was tortured by the guilt over my part in the breakup and was trying to get over it. Does that make me a scumbag twat like you said too? What exactly is a "good and normal" person to you? It seems like all you see in the world is darkness. You said you embrace darkness or something to that effect. I have never in my life met someone who is so hateful. Do you love anyone at all or are all humans just empty hollow automatons to you? I am trying hard to see your point other than attacking anything spiritual or positive. I will do what you ask EKul: I won't pray for you. Im not a missionary or preacher, I'm trying to get my life on track again and don't have the energy now for you. Maybe someday soon I will be ready like man of steel is to take the message of hope to others. but today is not that day. All the things you said about me being full of shit and a c*nt, whatever dude have a great life. I am really glad I posted what I did because man of steel pm'd me and he helped me a lot, he's a really inspirational and good dude. Do you think you inspire anything at all positive in people you interact with E-kul? I dont hate you, i dont pity you, i wont pray for you, and basically is just wont do anything for you because you said you dont need or want any help. Good luck with your life, man.Touch a nerve did I. For a getbigger you are quite sensitive.
i thinks its made by smart ppl for dumb ppl :D
This.Maybe GOD did cum over him ! ;D But seriously, I think god botherers just have trouble living with uncertainty and not knowing, it causes them to much anxiety and misery, so they opt for a nice fairy tale. You ever notice how all their religious beliefs, like heaven and vicarious redemption happen to coincide with what they wish to be true what seems like the best option. I mean wouldn't it be lovely if prayers really were answered and that all we needed to enter an eternal paradise was to suspend rational and critical thinking and put our faith in a wrathful deity.
I wish I can convince myself to believe in shite like that but unfortunately I ask 'Why' while other people just accept the line without question.
Man of Steel think 'God' came over him. In reality the hormonal balance in his body corrected itself and he felt at peace. Apparently 'God' did it.
Maybe GOD did cum over him ! ;D But seriously, I think god botherers just have trouble living with uncertainty and not knowing, it causes them to much anxiety and misery, so they opt for a nice fairy tale. You ever notice how all their religious beliefs, like heaven and vicarious redemption happen to coincide with what they wish to be true what seems like the best option. I mean wouldn't it be lovely if prayers really were answered and that all we needed to enter an eternal paradise was to suspend rational and critical thinking and put our faith in a wrathful deity.
Anyway, it is time for my daily prayer, today I am praying that religious zealots realise that prayer doesn't work and has no more power than wishful thinking.
:)but seriously maybe you should get a pet like a dog or cat. caring and thinking about something or someone else besides yourself could be beneficial. whenever i'm feeling depressed i go see my dog who usually changes my mood almost instantly. sometimes it's fear.....
Not trying to be funny but try giving up porn. Porn, as other addictions, can mess up your dopamine system and give you feelings of depression, social anxiety, "mind fog" and other bad side effects...
"I'm one of those guys. The amazing part is that a year before I tried giving up porn, I even went to see psychiatrists and psychologists who diagnosed me with severe social anxiety disorder and depression, and wanted to put me on antidepressants, which I never agreed to.
When I went on my first no-porn/masturbation streak (~80 days) I started noticing the benefits reported by others. Today, on my 109th day of a streak, I feel happy, confident, social, smart, capable of meeting any challenge, etc., etc."
"I have experienced some awesome benefits. First off, I finally have energy again! I haven't felt this good since high school. It's not like I'm Hulk or anything, but I finally have extra energy to DO stuff. I spent most of my early 20's in a state of low energy and mild depression. Now that I've stopped [masturbating to porn] twice a day, I've been exercising, being more social, and generally enjoying life."
You have been continent for 109 days or do you have a woman/sexual outlet?There are two quotes, none from me.
There are two quotes, none from me.
I am practicing sexual abstinence though, or at least trying to, and I've given up on porn several months ago. I can attest to a lot of positive changes since I started this endeavour. Concentration and patience is way better today. One big reason as to why I'm doing this is that I feel more laidback at work, before I was pissed off all the time.
Withdrawals (yes, they're real...) were awful though. Felt like crap and wanted to sleep all day.
This may seem very silly when reading about it but a lot of people are experience the same things as I've mentioned previously - and more and more scientific studies are being performed on the subject. We haven't had high speed internet porn and tabbed browsing for too many years so we're not that aware of the risks...
Be careful about extremes, for example, total abstinence can lead to depression in many people. Sexual release is healing. But I do agree that internet porn can mess with dopamine. Even being excessively wired into a site like getbig (or obsessively checking/updating Facebook or tweeting continuously), these things can mess with our wiring in a way that ends up increasing the risk of anxiety and depression.I agree. This is powerful stuff, more so than you'd expect.
Not trying to be funny but try giving up porn. Porn, as other addictions, can mess up your dopamine system and give you feelings of depression, social anxiety, "mind fog" and other bad side effects...
"I'm one of those guys. The amazing part is that a year before I tried giving up porn, I even went to see psychiatrists and psychologists who diagnosed me with severe social anxiety disorder and depression, and wanted to put me on antidepressants, which I never agreed to.
When I went on my first no-porn/masturbation streak (~80 days) I started noticing the benefits reported by others. Today, on my 109th day of a streak, I feel happy, confident, social, smart, capable of meeting any challenge, etc., etc."
"I have experienced some awesome benefits. First off, I finally have energy again! I haven't felt this good since high school. It's not like I'm Hulk or anything, but I finally have extra energy to DO stuff. I spent most of my early 20's in a state of low energy and mild depression. Now that I've stopped [masturbating to porn] twice a day, I've been exercising, being more social, and generally enjoying life."
I am beginning to see why your girlfriend left you.
See now I know you are just trolling. For someone who has such a huge problem with zealots, you are pretty zealous with your trolling. I just find it odd the amount of effort you put into your trolling. Were you a Roman Catholic as a child? Did something bad happen to you? That would make sense for you to hate religion so much, but if you legit just hate people who are trying to live good honest lives with God in it, well I don't know what to say to you other than goodbye and good luck with all that. You win troll of the year award.
I am beginning to see why your girlfriend left you.
This.maybe god exists, but im sure at the gates of heaven when he asks why didnt you believe, he will be sensible enough to understand that his book didnt hold up to scientifical scrutnity.an update is overdue.
I wish I can convince myself to believe in shite like that but unfortunately I ask 'Why' while other people just accept the line without question.
Man of Steel think 'God' came over him. In reality the hormonal balance in his body corrected itself and he felt at peace. Apparently 'God' did it.
Hit a nerve with you? Now i'm seeing why you are such a hate-filled little troll. It wasn't your fault that something bad happened to you as a child. Don't blame yourself and hold on to so much hatred. It is holding you back and making you lash out at the rest of humanity. I won't respond to your posts anymore now that I know why you are the way you are. It would not be right to kick someone who has been abused like you were. Just remember that you were a child and the man who did what he did to you was the wrong one not you.Now I have no doubt as to why your girlfriend left you. ;D ;D
There are two quotes, none from me.
I am practicing sexual abstinence though, or at least trying to, and I've given up on porn several months ago. I can attest to a lot of positive changes since I started this endeavour. Concentration and patience is way better today. One big reason as to why I'm doing this is that I feel more laidback at work, before I was pissed off all the time.
Withdrawals (yes, they're real...) were awful though. Felt like crap and wanted to sleep all day.
This may seem very silly when reading about it but a lot of people are experience the same things as I've mentioned previously - and more and more scientific studies are being performed on the subject. We haven't had high speed internet porn and tabbed browsing for too many years so we're not that aware of the risks...
Gee, can't you discuss anything else BUT religion? Is your brain and mind that small that you cannot think or talk about anything else?
I feel really sorry for you. :-\ :-\
This.
I wish I can convince myself to believe in shite like that but unfortunately I ask 'Why' while other people just accept the line without question.
Man of Steel think 'God' came over him. In reality the hormonal balance in his body corrected itself and he felt at peace. Apparently 'God' did it.
If it comforts you to believe that fine. I see religion as poison and those who follow it as miserable lost souls. And religion and prayer don't even deserve to be called a twisted version of truth, they are boldface lies. Just as you see me in darkness, that's the way I see you and other people so taken with religion. I am happy with the level of awareness and enlightenment I have attained. I walk around with eyes wide open, I have no need for others pity and I accept life the way it is and not the way I want it to be.
I kind of laugh when you offer up help, as I feel it is you who is in need of it, but the stranglehold of religion has closed your mind. I like my humaneness, I am not trying to mold life into an enjoyable, comfortable ride. I am not seeking happiness, or god or any of that. I seek to develop my mind as for as possible, I find it sufficient to pursue the areas of interest that captivate me, to expand in the way that I like, that I am comfortable with. I need no god to take the raw edge off living, all emotions are equally valid and worthy of exploration, I see god botherers as escape artists, trying to avoid the harsher realities of life, to escape the experience and therefore the vital lesson contained within. Simply put, it is just another psychological defense mechanism to cope with the ups and downs of life.
My guess is it bothers you to have someone ridicule your faith and superstitious practises so vehemently and with such passion that your only choice is to tell yourself they are a dark lost soul incapable of understanding God and his grace. While you see the darkness as something to flee from and seek solace and comfort in God, I see as a remarkable opportunity to explore and discover life more deeply, to live more richly, to move further towards a deep understanding of life. My goal isn't to live a comfortable live with the assistance of a divine being, but to live a REAL LIFE, complete with unsolvable dilemmas and extreme difficulties. Your sales pitch of your life once being dark but is now filled with God's light doesn't appeal to someone like me, if anything it sounds like an outright terrible existence. I embrace my darkness !!! I see moving to the light as going in the wrong direction.
yep that about covers it.
Hope this is a serious post because I will answer it like it is. I have and am suffering now. I know what you mean about knowing it is not the normal blues but much worse. You just know inside it is not normal. I did go to a shrink on was put on medication and looking back I am not sure how much it helped. It may or may not have. All I know is that it was not easy by any means. I found that there were certain people who could just make me feel better and "forget" about it all while I was with them. Seek these people out and be around them whenever possible. I wish I had a concrete answer to give you about how to get through it but there is none other than if you feel it is going too far into the darkness and you are going to hurt yourself, go to a hospital tell them what you are thinking and let them help you. Other than that, try to find anything positive that does not hurt others that you can do to boost your mood. There are supplements and drugs that help but they are not a cure. The only cure is unfortunately time because it feels like it will never end. It does though. Good luck to us both, I know I need it.
Anyone else ever dealt with depression? Lately I've been feeling really down in the dumps. Not the normal feeling down but like a lower level of downess. Im just really sad. I'm not looking for anyones sympathy so please. im just curious if anyone has ever dealt with depression and how they deal with it. If I had insurance I would think about going to see a doc.
I've discovered that there is a certain degree of depression that comes with getting older. I sometimes feel depressed because I start thinking about all the things I wanted to do or would like to do now but for one reason or another I don't.
For example, last summer or son and his wife celebrated their 25th wedding anniversary. We were invited to participate in the festivities. Unfortunately, they live in Germany. While we can afford to travel, my wife isn't healthy enough for it, thus we made the decision to send them money instead. Next summer, our oldest granddaughter is getting married and wants us to be part of her wedding. She also lives in Germany. I don't see anything changing for the positive with my wife's health issues. I am not about to go without her. It's depressing.
I really enjoy working out at the gym. Since I had knee surgery in September, all my energy has gone into doing the physical therapy for my knee. I was pretty depressed over the fact that I was walking like a gimp. While my upper body shrinks, the physical therapy is helping me to recover from the surgery. I am looking forward to the time I can get back into a full body workout regimen at the gym. In the meantime, when I look at myself in the mirror it takes a lot not to feel a little depressed.
About 18 months ago, I had a prostatectomy because I had prostate cancer. While there is a lot of things to celebrate, like being cancer free and not being incontinent. I have had issues with being impotent for years. Unfortunately, the prostatectomy exasperated the problem. Not only that, with no prostate and no seminal vessel there is no "money shot" which I miss. On up side, I guess, is that I have more sensory responses so the nerves are doing well. And although it is something of an anti-climax, I still do have a dry and intense orgasm.
Just writing about this stuff is depressing me so I am going to stop here.
The truth of the matter is, I have much to celebrate and much to be thankful for. I also think I have too much time on my hands since I retired. Despite volunteering for a number of different things, serving on committees and sitting on a couple of boards, these things don't occupy my time in the way that working did. I have no plans to go back to work though.
I am pretty sure being on HRT helps with my depression. Having a loving family also is a God send. Whenever I get to feeling really down, I think about how fortunate I am compared to some people. I live in a nice home. Although I am not rich, money is not a problem. And my two dogs give me unconditional love....but they also wish I'd get off my ass soon and take them for a walk.
1 to 10 wolfcocksucker offs himself during those lonely christmas days.
I've discovered that there is a certain degree of depression that comes with getting older. I sometimes feel depressed because I start thinking about all the things I wanted to do or would like to do now but for one reason or another I don't.
For example, last summer or son and his wife celebrated their 25th wedding anniversary. We were invited to participate in the festivities. Unfortunately, they live in Germany. While we can afford to travel, my wife isn't healthy enough for it, thus we made the decision to send them money instead. Next summer, our oldest granddaughter is getting married and wants us to be part of her wedding. She also lives in Germany. I don't see anything changing for the positive with my wife's health issues. I am not about to go without her. It's depressing.
I really enjoy working out at the gym. Since I had knee surgery in September, all my energy has gone into doing the physical therapy for my knee. I was pretty depressed over the fact that I was walking like a gimp. While my upper body shrinks, the physical therapy is helping me to recover from the surgery. I am looking forward to the time I can get back into a full body workout regimen at the gym. In the meantime, when I look at myself in the mirror it takes a lot not to feel a little depressed.
About 18 months ago, I had a prostatectomy because I had prostate cancer. While there is a lot of things to celebrate, like being cancer free and not being incontinent. I have had issues with being impotent for years. Unfortunately, the prostatectomy exasperated the problem. Not only that, with no prostate and no seminal vessel there is no "money shot" which I miss. On up side, I guess, is that I have more sensory responses so the nerves are doing well. And although it is something of an anti-climax, I still do have a dry and intense orgasm.
Just writing about this stuff is depressing me so I am going to stop here.
The truth of the matter is, I have much to celebrate and much to be thankful for. I also think I have too much time on my hands since I retired. Despite volunteering for a number of different things, serving on committees and sitting on a couple of boards, these things don't occupy my time in the way that working did. I have no plans to go back to work though.
I am pretty sure being on HRT helps with my depression. Having a loving family also is a God send. Whenever I get to feeling really down, I think about how fortunate I am compared to some people. I live in a nice home. Although I am not rich, money is not a problem. And my two dogs give me unconditional love....but they also wish I'd get off my ass soon and take them for a walk.
Now I have no doubt as to why your girlfriend left you. ;D ;D
^^ if this is true, you may want to stay away from the sport for a while or find a new one entirely. Here's something to ponder, do you think most of these pro/big bbers are happy? Many perform g4p, do tons and tons of drugs (10+ grams) which causes a number of health issues, they have short careers and are washed up with nothing (most never make it, just chasing the dream). If your just jesting/trolling, not funnyPretty sure mphgrove's post is a gag, pretty funny one too! ;D
Not trying to be funny but try giving up porn. Porn, as other addictions, can mess up your dopamine system and give you feelings of depression, social anxiety, "mind fog" and other bad side effects...
"I'm one of those guys. The amazing part is that a year before I tried giving up porn, I even went to see psychiatrists and psychologists who diagnosed me with severe social anxiety disorder and depression, and wanted to put me on antidepressants, which I never agreed to.
When I went on my first no-porn/masturbation streak (~80 days) I started noticing the benefits reported by others. Today, on my 109th day of a streak, I feel happy, confident, social, smart, capable of meeting any challenge, etc., etc."
"I have experienced some awesome benefits. First off, I finally have energy again! I haven't felt this good since high school. It's not like I'm Hulk or anything, but I finally have extra energy to DO stuff. I spent most of my early 20's in a state of low energy and mild depression. Now that I've stopped [masturbating to porn] twice a day, I've been exercising, being more social, and generally enjoying life."
Anyone else ever dealt with depression? Lately I've been feeling really down in the dumps. Not the normal feeling down but like a lower level of downess. Im just really sad. I'm not looking for anyones sympathy so please. im just curious if anyone has ever dealt with depression and how they deal with it. If I had insurance I would think about going to see a doc.I wouldn't get started on any medications especially SSRI's. selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors are all horrible drugs. If you do get on any medication try a benzo before a SSRI. If you can stay off all medications that would be best. What you need to do is get a hobby and stick with it or if you already have a hobby like weight lifting try to spend alot of time in the gym and train real seriously. Make a goal sheet for yourself and achieve them all. Also go get laid. getting some good sex always makes a man or women happy. You need a good women in your life. Money also seems to bring lot of people joy so work hard as well and make alot of money. But for a quick depression fix workout alot, go get laid and get some good rest and eat foods you like to eat. I don;t know what is going on in your life but avoid any prescription drugs. I went that route and benzos worked great but now I am stuck on them and SSRI's were garbage,those might make things worse.
I wouldn't get started on any medications especially SSRI's. selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors are all horrible drugs. If you do get on any medication try a benzo before a SSRI. If you can stay off all medications that would be best. What you need to do is get a hobby and stick with it or if you already have a hobby like weight lifting try to spend alot of time in the gym and train real seriously. Make a goal sheet for yourself and achieve them all. Also go get laid. getting some good sex always makes a man or women happy. You need a good women in your life. Money also seems to bring lot of people joy so work hard as well and make alot of money. But for a quick depression fix workout alot, go get laid and get some good rest and eat foods you like to eat. I don;t know what is going on in your life but avoid any prescription drugs. I went that route and benzos worked great but now I am stuck on them and SSRI's were garbage,those might make things worse.
LOL epic poor advice.
SSRI work very well, it's just a matter of finding the one that work best for you. Benzo are addictive and for term use only. LOL look at you hooked up on Xanax. Epic fail @self medicating. Why would we take any advice from you?
I totally was pushing for staying off all medications.If you read carefully I said to stay off all medications if possible.first thing I said is" I wouldn't get started on any medications"
SSRI's are addictive as well not as addictive as benzos but a patient still must be tapered off of them. You are the first person I know who says SSRI's work great. It is best to not get started on any medication and I def emphasized that in my post. There is really know reason to start on medications. I honestly wish I didn't try any medications myself but I will say the SSRI's treated me way worse then benzos and don't try to say SSRI's are not addictive not as bad as benzos but yes addictive and tapering is needed to get off them.
I think xanax is the best drug ever made and it blows away any SSRI ever made. You can use it long term. why not?It all really comes down to what kind of problems you are having.getting a mental health evaluation is your best bet then they can tell you if you need a SSRI or a Benzo or maybe both.
Alex23 you probably started this thread because you are still sad your boyfriend nasser died.
I used to think depression was something for weak people, something that didn't exist, it is all in the mind. Therefore people who have depressions were just weak and couldn't handle life.
My "depression/problems" started about 8 months ago, i had 2 jobs was working hard, last year university had a girlfriend for over 3 years and felt semi happy i guess.
Then one night i just woke up. I couldn't get back to sleep any more, i woke up with thoughts in my head of all the things i had to do the next day. The next night was the same and so on. I was caught in a viscous circle of insomnia, i knew i had to sleep to function the next day, but that mere thought would keep me awake. I would cry to go to sleep, but i couldn't sleep. This went on for a month until i was committed in an hospital/asylum(?) because i hadn't slept in 4 days and i began to lose touch with reality.
Then the medication started, my next life i would say. First lorazepam and some anti depressant called remeron to help me fall asleep. I slept for a few days but that slowly started to pass, the medication would not help me sleep any more, i would wake up and be in the same viscous circle again.
This went on for months with different therapists and incresing doses of medication. I became really down because of the no sleep, i could not function any more. At that moment i still thought it would be a temporary thing everybody told me so. haha. :D
Every day i would feel like i was not asleep nor awake, my girlfriend could not cope with this for the half year it had been going on, she left me. Who could blame her? stuck with a down depressed guy in your twenties. I lost both of my jobs and have been failing most of my classes this past semester. (i never failed anything before this)
I am still prescribed remeron (30mg) and clonazepam 4mg for sleep, i feel nothing of the benzos any more, but if i don't take them i will feel it, i begin to shake and crave it.
Now i am here, almost a year later. Lost almost everything i had. And still no decent sleep! I Wake up after an hour or 2 or 3 and doze in and out of light sleep, even though i am tired as shit every day!
Everyday i "wake up" feeling like i am dead, i do not know any more how i felt before the medication. I cannot concentrate or get anything done. Everyday and night i would feel i would die, and now I've come to the moment where if dead comes i will welcome it, i will finally sleep.
Live without sleep is nothing, there is no life without sleep. Only depression.
So that is my depression story, how i cope with it? Obviously not good.
I am on my own authority now going to quit the anti depressant and benzos, i want to know how i was again before the medication. Yes the anti depressant takes some of the sadness away. But also the feeling of joy. I feel nothing any more.
I wish i could go back and know that feeling again, the feeling of sleep and waking rested.
So yeah tl;dr version, i'm pretty fucked in the head seeing as am in some insane insomnia based depression.
Just my 2 cents- The cause and cure for depression in most is the same thing, Pussy. I reccomend you plug you're nose and dive deep into as much vag as you can. Once you start busting nuts on a consistent basis your mind will start to function more clearly.no...it s just another addiction but just like all addictions at some point it doesnt work anymore; you have to face the sheer absurdity, cruelty and randomness of life. Again; all old people come that state of mind, some people just come to it sooner, younger, cause they re smarter, faster thinking , but in the end there is nothing to understand about life but that we re animals adapting to survive until we cant adapt anymore, following alternatively only 4 basic rules /main strategies of survival ; dominate, submit, cooperate, or flee.
I used to think depression was something for weak people, something that didn't exist, it is all in the mind. Therefore people who have depressions were just weak and couldn't handle life.Dude, you ve been conditioned by life to end that way, you didnt choose any of it. It s biological just like me you re the sum of who spwaned you; your parents were probably both headcases too. Noone can help you, sorry that's the truth. .If someone wants to help you, its because they have a vested interest in doing so -getting a salary or feeling better about themselves helping people who have shittier lives- Only you can help yourself, and decide you prefer to kill other people instead of being killed by them. Being smart means being good at fucking killing dominating people psychologically instead of physically, thats what we call being intelligent.
My "depression/problems" started about 8 months ago, i had 2 jobs was working hard, last year university had a girlfriend for over 3 years and felt semi happy i guess.
Then one night i just woke up. I couldn't get back to sleep any more, i woke up with thoughts in my head of all the things i had to do the next day. The next night was the same and so on. I was caught in a viscous circle of insomnia, i knew i had to sleep to function the next day, but that mere thought would keep me awake. I would cry to go to sleep, but i couldn't sleep. This went on for a month until i was committed in an hospital/asylum(?) because i hadn't slept in 4 days and i began to lose touch with reality.
Then the medication started, my next life i would say. First lorazepam and some anti depressant called remeron to help me fall asleep. I slept for a few days but that slowly started to pass, the medication would not help me sleep any more, i would wake up and be in the same viscous circle again.
This went on for months with different therapists and incresing doses of medication. I became really down because of the no sleep, i could not function any more. At that moment i still thought it would be a temporary thing everybody told me so. haha. :D
Every day i would feel like i was not asleep nor awake, my girlfriend could not cope with this for the half year it had been going on, she left me. Who could blame her? stuck with a down depressed guy in your twenties. I lost both of my jobs and have been failing most of my classes this past semester. (i never failed anything before this)
I am still prescribed remeron (30mg) and clonazepam 4mg for sleep, i feel nothing of the benzos any more, but if i don't take them i will feel it, i begin to shake and crave it.
Now i am here, almost a year later. Lost almost everything i had. And still no decent sleep! I Wake up after an hour or 2 or 3 and doze in and out of light sleep, even though i am tired as shit every day!
Everyday i "wake up" feeling like i am dead, i do not know any more how i felt before the medication. I cannot concentrate or get anything done. Everyday and night i would feel i would die, and now I've come to the moment where if dead comes i will welcome it, i will finally sleep.
Live without sleep is nothing, there is no life without sleep. Only depression.
So that is my depression story, how i cope with it? Obviously not good.
I am on my own authority now going to quit the anti depressant and benzos, i want to know how i was again before the medication. Yes the anti depressant takes some of the sadness away. But also the feeling of joy. I feel nothing any more.
I wish i could go back and know that feeling again, the feeling of sleep and waking rested.
So yeah tl;dr version, i'm pretty fucked in the head seeing as am in some insane insomnia based depression.
I used to think depression was something for weak people, something that didn't exist, it is all in the mind. Therefore people who have depressions were just weak and couldn't handle life.Wow Dude, thanks for sharing. I have sleeping issues also, I can sleep, but my cycle is all fucked up, longer than 24 hrs, so I go to bed later and later each day. I then have to manipulate my sleep using sleep deprivation or forcing myself to stay awake to get the cycle back to a normal schedule, but essentially my sleep pattern has been fucked up for years. I hate it !
My "depression/problems" started about 8 months ago, i had 2 jobs was working hard, last year university had a girlfriend for over 3 years and felt semi happy i guess.
Then one night i just woke up. I couldn't get back to sleep any more, i woke up with thoughts in my head of all the things i had to do the next day. The next night was the same and so on. I was caught in a viscous circle of insomnia, i knew i had to sleep to function the next day, but that mere thought would keep me awake. I would cry to go to sleep, but i couldn't sleep. This went on for a month until i was committed in an hospital/asylum(?) because i hadn't slept in 4 days and i began to lose touch with reality.
Then the medication started, my next life i would say. First lorazepam and some anti depressant called remeron to help me fall asleep. I slept for a few days but that slowly started to pass, the medication would not help me sleep any more, i would wake up and be in the same viscous circle again.
This went on for months with different therapists and incresing doses of medication. I became really down because of the no sleep, i could not function any more. At that moment i still thought it would be a temporary thing everybody told me so. haha. :D
Every day i would feel like i was not asleep nor awake, my girlfriend could not cope with this for the half year it had been going on, she left me. Who could blame her? stuck with a down depressed guy in your twenties. I lost both of my jobs and have been failing most of my classes this past semester. (i never failed anything before this)
I am still prescribed remeron (30mg) and clonazepam 4mg for sleep, i feel nothing of the benzos any more, but if i don't take them i will feel it, i begin to shake and crave it.
Now i am here, almost a year later. Lost almost everything i had. And still no decent sleep! I Wake up after an hour or 2 or 3 and doze in and out of light sleep, even though i am tired as shit every day!
Everyday i "wake up" feeling like i am dead, i do not know any more how i felt before the medication. I cannot concentrate or get anything done. Everyday and night i would feel i would die, and now I've come to the moment where if dead comes i will welcome it, i will finally sleep.
Live without sleep is nothing, there is no life without sleep. Only depression.
So that is my depression story, how i cope with it? Obviously not good.
I am on my own authority now going to quit the anti depressant and benzos, i want to know how i was again before the medication. Yes the anti depressant takes some of the sadness away. But also the feeling of joy. I feel nothing any more.
I wish i could go back and know that feeling again, the feeling of sleep and waking rested.
So yeah tl;dr version, i'm pretty fucked in the head seeing as am in some insane insomnia based depression.
I used to think depression was something for weak people, something that didn't exist, it is all in the mind. Therefore people who have depressions were just weak and couldn't handle life.
My "depression/problems" started about 8 months ago, i had 2 jobs was working hard, last year university had a girlfriend for over 3 years and felt semi happy i guess.
Then one night i just woke up. I couldn't get back to sleep any more, i woke up with thoughts in my head of all the things i had to do the next day. The next night was the same and so on. I was caught in a viscous circle of insomnia, i knew i had to sleep to function the next day, but that mere thought would keep me awake. I would cry to go to sleep, but i couldn't sleep. This went on for a month until i was committed in an hospital/asylum(?) because i hadn't slept in 4 days and i began to lose touch with reality.
Then the medication started, my next life i would say. First lorazepam and some anti depressant called remeron to help me fall asleep. I slept for a few days but that slowly started to pass, the medication would not help me sleep any more, i would wake up and be in the same viscous circle again.
This went on for months with different therapists and incresing doses of medication. I became really down because of the no sleep, i could not function any more. At that moment i still thought it would be a temporary thing everybody told me so. haha. :D
Every day i would feel like i was not asleep nor awake, my girlfriend could not cope with this for the half year it had been going on, she left me. Who could blame her? stuck with a down depressed guy in your twenties. I lost both of my jobs and have been failing most of my classes this past semester. (i never failed anything before this)
I am still prescribed remeron (30mg) and clonazepam 4mg for sleep, i feel nothing of the benzos any more, but if i don't take them i will feel it, i begin to shake and crave it.
Now i am here, almost a year later. Lost almost everything i had. And still no decent sleep! I Wake up after an hour or 2 or 3 and doze in and out of light sleep, even though i am tired as shit every day!
Everyday i "wake up" feeling like i am dead, i do not know any more how i felt before the medication. I cannot concentrate or get anything done. Everyday and night i would feel i would die, and now I've come to the moment where if dead comes i will welcome it, i will finally sleep.
Live without sleep is nothing, there is no life without sleep. Only depression.
So that is my depression story, how i cope with it? Obviously not good.
I am on my own authority now going to quit the anti depressant and benzos, i want to know how i was again before the medication. Yes the anti depressant takes some of the sadness away. But also the feeling of joy. I feel nothing any more.
I wish i could go back and know that feeling again, the feeling of sleep and waking rested.
So yeah tl;dr version, i'm pretty fucked in the head seeing as am in some insane insomnia based depression.
Im a fuckin champion. You have to be weak to acknowledge such feelings as depression.it s funny, when we feel good we only feel like making fun of weaker, more depressed people , we think they deserve it, it makes us feel even better and luckier about our own hapiness, we dont want to be contaminated, in fact we dont care, the chemical receipe in our brain works just fine. We only understand them when we feel weak too. And when you feel weak you despise happier people.
Your doctor would say deal with those estrogen levels, fag got.
I used to think depression was something for weak people, something that didn't exist, it is all in the mind. Therefore people who have depressions were just weak and couldn't handle life.
My "depression/problems" started about 8 months ago, i had 2 jobs was working hard, last year university had a girlfriend for over 3 years and felt semi happy i guess.
Then one night i just woke up. I couldn't get back to sleep any more, i woke up with thoughts in my head of all the things i had to do the next day. The next night was the same and so on. I was caught in a viscous circle of insomnia, i knew i had to sleep to function the next day, but that mere thought would keep me awake. I would cry to go to sleep, but i couldn't sleep. This went on for a month until i was committed in an hospital/asylum(?) because i hadn't slept in 4 days and i began to lose touch with reality.
Then the medication started, my next life i would say. First lorazepam and some anti depressant called remeron to help me fall asleep. I slept for a few days but that slowly started to pass, the medication would not help me sleep any more, i would wake up and be in the same viscous circle again.
This went on for months with different therapists and incresing doses of medication. I became really down because of the no sleep, i could not function any more. At that moment i still thought it would be a temporary thing everybody told me so. haha. :D
Every day i would feel like i was not asleep nor awake, my girlfriend could not cope with this for the half year it had been going on, she left me. Who could blame her? stuck with a down depressed guy in your twenties. I lost both of my jobs and have been failing most of my classes this past semester. (i never failed anything before this)
I am still prescribed remeron (30mg) and clonazepam 4mg for sleep, i feel nothing of the benzos any more, but if i don't take them i will feel it, i begin to shake and crave it.
Now i am here, almost a year later. Lost almost everything i had. And still no decent sleep! I Wake up after an hour or 2 or 3 and doze in and out of light sleep, even though i am tired as shit every day!
Everyday i "wake up" feeling like i am dead, i do not know any more how i felt before the medication. I cannot concentrate or get anything done. Everyday and night i would feel i would die, and now I've come to the moment where if dead comes i will welcome it, i will finally sleep.
Live without sleep is nothing, there is no life without sleep. Only depression.
So that is my depression story, how i cope with it? Obviously not good.
I am on my own authority now going to quit the anti depressant and benzos, i want to know how i was again before the medication. Yes the anti depressant takes some of the sadness away. But also the feeling of joy. I feel nothing any more.
I wish i could go back and know that feeling again, the feeling of sleep and waking rested.
So yeah tl;dr version, i'm pretty fucked in the head seeing as am in some insane insomnia based depression.
I've too noticed that insomnia and sleep issues are related to depression.... good job captain obvious...
I in 2011 crashed my car, my girlfriend and I broke up after 6 years and my dad died all within 6 months. I am still dealing with the depression from it all and yes have sporatic sleeping, I can sleep about 3-4 hours straight then wake up then I'll be up and down all night I tried Ambien it did nothing. Tired as hell all the time.
I'm sorry to hear about the struggle, bro!Yea it is not fun.
Sure, I could advice to stay calm, forget the past, accept things as they come, etc... but fuck, who am I to give advice ???
well we all know what we should do...do things that make us feel good, proud, loved... sport, creative endeavours, socializing, watch feel good movies, start new projects, build stuff...we would like to know better people, who would understand us better, we want to know people who wont hurt us like the people we already know etc
the problem is all these things we can do nothing about and that we know will slowly kill us nonetheless. Mostly the problem is...other people.
I've too noticed that insomnia and sleep issues are related to depression.
If anything, I sleep too much. I average 9 or 10 hours a night. Sleeping a lot is also a sign of depression. Unlike some folks, I have no trouble getting to sleep most of the time and once asleep, I sleep through the night.
If anything, I sleep too much. I average 9 or 10 hours a night. Sleeping a lot is also a sign of depression. Unlike some folks, I have no trouble getting to sleep most of the time and once asleep, I sleep through the night.in fact both sleeping too much and not sleeping enough are linked to depressive states... Fact is you should just sleep the same amount of sleep every night and do the same daily routine every single day.
I feel like a old man having to tell you guys to man the fuck up, get off your pussy ass cell phones, get off the video games, go outside and breathe air. the future is what you decide it will be each and every moment you act during your day. you and only you can pull yourself into the future and become better at who or what you are.
fuck the pills, that only sends the message that you are not in control of your life and gave up.
on the other hand test and other bbing drugs can help, but also stop being pussies and going off and worrying about your ugly matted hair falling out. just be a man and start living. no one give s a shit about your ugly hair, or how small and fat you are
I've actually been feeling better with my new job. I'm working as a bouncer and get to interact with happy people which can be contagious. I'm not happy but I'm not sad so I'm keeping positive. The holidays should be good to me.
Good to hear, bro. Sorry to see this thread go off into pissing matches about who believes what, but at least there were some really good advices given. I know 100% that accepting God into my heart and asking Him for help has helped me through the darkness. I will never try to convince anyone to believe it if they do not. I know in my heart what happened and why. Anyways, good to hear you are feeling a little better and keep the faith that you will get better.
I've actually been feeling better with my new job. I'm working as a bouncer and get to interact with happy people which can be contagious. I'm not happy but I'm not sad so I'm keeping positive. The holidays should be good to me.
well we all know what we should do...do things that make us feel good, proud, loved... sport, creative endeavours, socializing, watch feel good movies, start new projects, build stuff...we would like to know better people, who would understand us better, we want to know people who wont hurt us like the people we already know etc
the problem is all these things we can do nothing about and that we know will slowly kill us nonetheless. Mostly the problem is...other people.
former bouncer here. let me tell ya, the pay might be shit, but the stories you'll get and the friends you'll make more than counterbalance that. i don't miss being broke, but i do miss having half the town know my name and rarely paying for drinks on my nights off.
I feel like a old man having to tell you guys to man the fuck up, get off your pussy ass cell phones, get off the video games, go outside and breathe air. the future is what you decide it will be each and every moment you act during your day. you and only you can pull yourself into the future and become better at who or what you are.
fuck the pills, that only sends the message that you are not in control of your life and gave up.
on the other hand test and other bbing drugs can help, but also stop being pussies and going off and worrying about your ugly matted hair falling out. just be a man and start living. no one give s a shit about your ugly hair, or how small and fat you are
Thanks. I'm glad I made this thread because there is a lot of good advice here and I also learned i'm not alone. The latter may seem ... well, like the sang goes about misery loving company but really it's good to know that I'm not alone and that if others can endure and manage I can too. Also, I was really surprised that the overwhelming majority of comments were helpful and positive. I guess this shows that getbig can rise above its reputation.
As for faith, well, I have been reading the bible more and there is inspiration and wisdom in that good book.
Thank you for your help and advice.
former bouncer here. let me tell ya, the pay might be shit, but the stories you'll get and the friends you'll make more than counterbalance that. i don't miss being broke, but i do miss having half the town know my name and rarely paying for drinks on my nights off.Calm down Dalton.
Sorry about your situation, friend. Maybe it's just a temporary thing. Hang in there, you're young.Thank you my friend, i too hope this will be a passing thing.
Dude, you ve been conditioned by life to end that way, you didnt choose any of it. It s biological just like me you re the sum of who spwaned you; your parents were probably both headcases too. Noone can help you, sorry that's the truth.You're probably true in regards that part of my problems are genetically destined to be more likely for it to occur with me as well. My mother has been forcefully committed twice in the last 2 years for trying to commit suicide after years of depression and benzo/alcohol addiction. (also sleep problems) My father is an alcoholic but he doesn't think he is himself.
Wow Dude, thanks for sharing. I have sleeping issues also, I can sleep, but my cycle is all fucked up, longer than 24 hrs, so I go to bed later and later each day. I then have to manipulate my sleep using sleep deprivation or forcing myself to stay awake to get the cycle back to a normal schedule, but essentially my sleep pattern has been fucked up for years. I hate it !Thanks bro. Yeah i am going to try sleep deprivation therapy again and hope that it works this time. My cycle is fucked as well seeing as i wake up 3 hours later in bed and my body just thinks this is normal now for some reason.
Good Luck dude, that was a really honest and forthright post. I wish you all the best.
In the states I believe GHB can be prescribed to people who have narcolespy. I don't know how easy or hard it is to be prescribe it but telling your Doctor that you fall asleep at a drop of a hat in strange places may be a start...GHB induces deep REM sleep. So 3 hours of sleep on that shit is really all you will need. Sure it opens up a whole other can of worms but like you said, sleep is EVERYTHING!I used GHB recreationally in the past, but it is not an addiction i would like to restart. I'm already addicted to the fucking benzos. :D The remeron gives me 3 hours of deep sleep but sadly 3 hours a day is not enough for a period of months. (at least not for me, there might be people who can cope with continuous very little sleep i dont know)
I in 2011 crashed my car, my girlfriend and I broke up after 6 years and my dad died all within 6 months. I am still dealing with the depression from it all and yes have sporatic sleeping, I can sleep about 3-4 hours straight then wake up then I'll be up and down all night I tried Ambien it did nothing. Tired as hell all the time.I am sorry about your problems man. I know the feeling, at least of the no sleep. Maybe you can ask your doctor about remeron (mirtazapine) it is prescribed off label for insomnia. (in lower doses then it is used for anti depressant effects) It is non addictive and at least in the start it helped me to sleep a couple of days fully(for my mother it helped her completely at 7.5mg for sleep).
on the other hand test and other bbing drugs can helpOn that note, Does anybody know if nandrolone exhibits the same effects in regards as to testosterone? I still have a lot of vials lying around, if all else fails and i am just abandoned by normal healthcare i will go on a fucking life long cycle. I have been postponing this cycle for months now, thinking it might not be smart to go on cycle again while i am having these problems.
worth pointing out that there's two kinds of depression: environmental and clinical. if you're depressed because a bunch of awful shit happened to you, that's awful and my heart goes out to you, but at least it's not without justification. the bitch is when depression lands for seemingly no reason. everything is, objectively, going just fine but your brain has decided to go "nah fuck you dude just lie in bed and don't clean yourself for a few days". no way to explain it to people, harder still to get any kind of sympathy or a kind ear.
been a little while since i've had any bad spells, but i've been down in there. best advice? either get on an ssri (lexapro, celexa, something mild just to get the brain chemicals going right) and make sure not to stop going to the gym.
former bouncer here. let me tell ya, the pay might be shit, but the stories you'll get and the friends you'll make more than counterbalance that. i don't miss being broke, but i do miss having half the town know my name and rarely paying for drinks on my nights off.
to the op.
shitso-wolfcocksucker, best way to end a depression,once and for all time, will even work for both and all gimmick accounts, is the suicide option.
since youre a little bitch, i suggest the painfree leave, OD on heavy sleeping meds.
you fall asleep and just dont wake upanymore.no pain, no hassle, no blood,no mess.
you can also drink to the near unconsiousness and while doing so, start popping the sleep meds, make sure its enough tablets, dose 20times the suggested dosage.and dont drink too much, too make sure you dont vomit out the sleeping tablets again.
i hope this helps, good night and good bye and good riddance.
:-* :-*
I've too noticed that insomnia and sleep issues are related to depression.
I in 2011 crashed my car, my girlfriend and I broke up after 6 years and my dad died all within 6 months. I am still dealing with the depression from it all and yes have sporatic sleeping, I can sleep about 3-4 hours straight then wake up then I'll be up and down all night I tried Ambien it did nothing. Tired as hell all the time.
LOL for real?
Good post. I'm not sure some here acknowledge the clinical variety, which is a real nightmare. It has nothing at all to do with lifestyle or attitude. It just happens.
I highly suggest you snap the fuck out of it, depression manifests cancer...that shit kills people.
since everybody on getbig is invinsible and could care less if they die at 35 or about cancer how about this.....depression will RUIN your gains.
Thank you my friend, i too hope this will be a passing thing.well obviously it's genetical, you re genetically programmed to be depressed and less resistant to psychological warfare than others. So you need a calmer, quieter, slower lifestyle, a slow pace to not overload your nerves which are weaker , less "muscled" than other people who didnt have their genes corrupted by their parents drug abuse or their mental stability hurt by their past physical or psychological blows; you need to control your relationships more as you re prone to being backstabed by stronger minded people who see you as a toy so you better stick with weaker or similarly minded people isntead. Your life sucks? it could be even worse, that's what most people tell themselves to keep playing the game.
You're probably true in regards that part of my problems are genetically destined to be more likely for it to occur with me as well. My mother has been forcefully committed twice in the last 2 years for trying to commit suicide after years of depression and benzo/alcohol addiction. (also sleep problems) My father is an alcoholic but he doesn't think he is himself.
I was addicted myself to speed and cocaine from my 15th till my 22nd. I used everyday and easily went from party to party days after nights after days. So all the years of drug abuse probably have taken a toll on my brain as well.
But the thing is, when i found training/bodybuilding 5/6 years ago i said goodbye to all my old friends and quit everything and started living healthy. It changed me, bodybuilding saved my life in a way. But now all of the sudden after 5 years i am having these fucking sleep problems, i dont want to take any more medication i want to go back to normal.
And its not just as simple as thinking it away, especially when you are there in bed thinking about how you re going to wake up tired as shit the next day and start the same cycle again.
U need to get over it. You've effectively lost 2 years of your life that u can't get back.sometimes it takes time to get over it. And to be honest...we never get over some stuff.
There is no snapping out of chronic depression. Or any other so called "disease" of the brain...Just like a person can't snap out of cancer or liver disease or heart disease. If a person has been dealing with depression for an extended period of time, it's not like you will wake up one day and it will be gone.Yeah, environment (what people say think and do) shapes your biology, the biology of your brain, it transforms it physically. Your brain can change the world but the world changes your brain too. I'm only alive because of my house, land I own, wife , kid, cause i'm good looking, in shape and get my loved ones to do the same, and because of hopes I will sublimate myself thru various activities I m good at and enjoy developing. That's my daily natural anti depressant that's how I feel like I'm "winning at life" even if i lost my fair share of times and even if I know i have many more challenges that i maybe wont be able to overcome ahead of me.
I think depression is connected to diet, you can change pretty much everything with what your eating and not eatingits just that eating a lot and especially sugar acts as a natural anti depressant, nothing more. Problem is that it also destroys your body at some point... No the right middle balance ground is to stay lean eat not too much most of the time and deal with life the "tough" way accepting it like it is instead of attempting to constantly lure yourself about its true nature.
well obviously it's genetical, you re genetically programmed to be depressed and less resistant to psychological warfare than others. So you need a calmer, quieter, slower lifestyle, a slow pace to not overload your nerves which are weaker , less "muscled" than other people who didnt have their genes corrupted by their parents drug abuse or their mental stability hurt by their past physical or psychological blows; you need to control your relationships more as you re prone to being backstabed by stronger minded people who see you as a toy so you better stick with weaker or similarly minded people isntead. Your life sucks? it could be even worse, that's what most people tell themselves to keep playing the game.
The problem is that people who come from shity families and have shity genes and predispositions to be depressed are often the ones who have the shittiest education, have to work the shitiest jobs and live around the shitiest people. They re also the ones who have not much money to pay for stuff -drugs, leisures- that would lighten their depressive state and global daily suffering. It's a vicious circle.
The only positive, constructive escape is always the same; sublimation thru work / creative activity.
Now we all know kids from rich families can be badly mistreated genetically, physically, psychologically too, even if they have the money, but the money allow them to last longer; still they can feel as shity as poor people who werent loved either.
I hope that you re not into steroids and practice natural , physical conditioning...cause being extreme about lifting weights and doing drugs has nothing to do with doing something that is really "saving your life"...
We all have phases in our existences where things rebound, and downs. It can happen again even if you re in high times. So only the smartest, strongest, fittest calculate how to always be constantly in the high times, money helps. And yeah at some point you have to find a woman have kids and keep doing the good , healthy stuff you ve been doing . We re animals, "successful" animals dominate and replicate and control the whole thing the best they can with what they have.
There is nothing else to do anyway.
well obviously it's genetical, you re genetically programmed to be depressed and less resistant to psychological warfare than others. So you need a calmer, quieter, slower lifestyle, a slow pace to not overload your nerves which are weaker , less "muscled" than other people who didnt have their genes corrupted by their parents drug abuse or their mental stability hurt by their past physical or psychological blows; you need to control your relationships more as you re prone to being backstabed by stronger minded people who see you as a toy so you better stick with weaker or similarly minded people isntead. Your life sucks? it could be even worse, that's what most people tell themselves to keep playing the game.
The problem is that people who come from shity families and have shity genes and predispositions to be depressed are often the ones who have the shittiest education, have to work the shitiest jobs and live around the shitiest people. They re also the ones who have not much money to pay for stuff -drugs, leisures- that would lighten their depressive state and global daily suffering. It's a vicious circle.
The only positive, constructive escape is always the same; sublimation thru work / creative activity.
Now we all know kids from rich families can be badly mistreated genetically, physically, psychologically too, even if they have the money, but the money allow them to last longer; still they can feel as shity as poor people who werent loved either.
I hope that you re not into steroids and practice natural , physical conditioning...cause being extreme about lifting weights and doing drugs has nothing to do with doing something that is really "saving your life"...
We all have phases in our existences where things rebound, and downs. It can happen again even if you re in high times. So only the smartest, strongest, fittest calculate how to always be constantly in the high times, money helps. And yeah at some point you have to find a woman have kids and keep doing the good , healthy stuff you ve been doing . We re animals, "successful" animals dominate and replicate and control the whole thing the best they can with what they have.
There is nothing else to do anyway.
I have used steroids yes, and i will use them again when i feel the time is there. I would say body-building definitely saved my life, seeing as naturally training to accomplish goals and do a cycle here and there is much better then snorting speed and using various other drugs every day. (That what my life would've stayed if i didn't find bodybuilding/training.)I survive mixing both religious principles and scientifical facts and...THEORIES. The idea of God makes sense to me, scientifically speaking, and the use of what science discovered needs to be oriented with spirituality to create and defend life, both go hand in hand that's what I'm understanding as life goes.
And funny, a year back i read your posts and you were all Christian and religious morals etc and and now you are pulling life back to its true darwinian principles haha. I know deep down we are still that, we are here to survive and everything we do be it concious or not still falls back to these rudimentary behaviours.
I would say i am an fairly intelligent person, maybe with a weaker mindset that makes me prone to depression, i don't know. It's just weird to me that this all came out of nowhere.
I need to find my high times again man, but it's pretty hard to feel happy when you really have no sleep. And thinking about how other people have it worse really doesn't "do it for me".
Does it make me have more compassion for others?
NO. I still dont give a fuck about them mostly, and it s all about me me me. And I now know we re all the same, saying we care about others is always lying, we only care about them if our own quality of life, odds of survival, are linked to their survival.
I dont believe in searching for hapinness anymore... hapinness happen when you have a stable reassuring predictable life routine that allow you to feel pleasures one after another; many pleasures constantly = being in a state of hapiness. How to have pleassure in life, often enough to call it a happy life? by finding many of them and avoiding problems the best you can. You also have to make sure you wont abuse these pleasures and make a smart use of them, and vary them. That's probably the only realistic thing we can do.
abusing pleasures makes us miserable. Managing many various pleasures intelligently without abusing them is probably the closest of reaching the genuinest hapiness.
It has been said that "our pleasures make us miserable." That is true if we are able to give ourselves, and we don't deny ourselves all the pleasures in the world(eat all we want, sleep all we want, have all the sex we want, drink as much as we want, buy all the things we want, etc. World pleasures do not equal happiness, and if not kept in check, world pleasures can actually bring us and our loved ones unhappiness.
What about the soldier that voluntarily jumps on a grenade and gives his life to save his buddies?Heroes are often suicidal people who flee dead ends in their lives and who want to die but dont know how, who hesitate between killing themselves or killing others or , killing themselves for others to finally put an end to their psychological suffering.
What about the mother who spends her life and finances caring for her mentally retarded son who adds nothing to, but instead takes from, her quality of life, her survival, her finances, etc.?
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What about the soldier that voluntarily jumps on a grenade and gives his life to save his buddies?
Heroes are often suicidal people who flee dead ends in their lives and who want to die but dont know how, who hesitate between killing themselves or killing others or , killing themselves for others to finally put an end to their psychological suffering.So true, Sigmund Freud talked about the "Death Wish" or "Death Drive", fascinating concept and something more people suffer from than is acknowledged.
Heroes are often suicidal people who flee dead ends in their lives and who want to die but dont know how, who hesitate between killing themselves or killing others or , killing themselves for others to finally put an end to their psychological suffering.
If her kid is mentally retarded it's probably because of her (99.9% of problematic childs have had mothers or fathers doing bad stuff, alcohol drug other nasty stuff etc during pregnancy and that effect the development of the fetus) in the first place. Then she sees the kid as a pet/meal ticket and simultaneously a way to get pity/attention from others. Not all cases, but in many cases these are the real underlying mechanisms at work.
Not all heroes are like that, and not all moms of mentally retarded kids are like that. Obviously, I was asking about the hero who is not suicidal, and about the mother is not selfish.You are mistaking suicidal with a death wish. Those with a death wish don't necessarily wish to kill themselves, but they aren't afraid to put their lives in jeopardy. These people hold an unconscious desire to die, but that this wish is largely tempered by the life instincts. Self-destructive behavior is an expression of the energy created by the death instincts. I hate to break it to you and shatter you childhood superman fantasies, but there are no heroes.
You are mistaking suicidal with a death wish. Those with a death wish don't necessarily wish to kill themselves, but they aren't afraid to put their lives in jeopardy. These people hold an unconscious desire to die, but that this wish is largely tempered by the life instincts. Self-destructive behavior is an expression of the energy created by the death instincts. I hate to break it to you and shatter you childhood superman fantasies, but there are no heroes.they are heroes who indeed sacrify themselves for others, it's a fact. Now the deep reasons why they really do it -while others will try to save their ass fleeing hiding or getting cover- are most of the time not understood by most people who didnt live long enough to understand the complex intricate ways of the human, animal mind.
You are mistaking suicidal with a death wish. Those with a death wish don't necessarily wish to kill themselves, but they aren't afraid to put their lives in jeopardy. These people hold an unconscious desire to die, but that this wish is largely tempered by the life instincts. Self-destructive behavior is an expression of the energy created by the death instincts. I hate to break it to you and shatter you childhood superman fantasies, but there are no heroes.
they are heroes who indeed sacrify themselves for others, it's a fact. Now the deep reasons why they really do it -while others will try to save their ass fleeing hiding or getting cover- are most of the time not understood by most people who didnt live long enough to understand the complex intricate ways of the human, animal mind.
its just that eating a lot and especially sugar acts as a natural anti depressant, nothing more. Problem is that it also destroys your body at some point... No the right middle balance ground is to stay lean eat not too much most of the time and deal with life the "tough" way accepting it like it is instead of attempting to constantly lure yourself about its true nature.
Plenty of human beings change, grow, and/or are transformed into people who genuinely care for others more than they care about themselves.Yeah, it's called co-dependency, it's potentially a a psychological disorder. It involves placing a lower priority on one's own needs, while being excessively preoccupied with the needs of others.
well obviously it's genetical, you re genetically programmed to be depressed and less resistant to psychological warfare than others. So you need a calmer, quieter, slower lifestyle, a slow pace to not overload your nerves which are weaker , less "muscled" than other people who didnt have their genes corrupted by their parents drug abuse or their mental stability hurt by their past physical or psychological blows; you need to control your relationships more as you re prone to being backstabed by stronger minded people who see you as a toy so you better stick with weaker or similarly minded people isntead. Your life sucks? it could be even worse, that's what most people tell themselves to keep playing the game.
The problem is that people who come from shity families and have shity genes and predispositions to be depressed are often the ones who have the shittiest education, have to work the shitiest jobs and live around the shitiest people. They re also the ones who have not much money to pay for stuff -drugs, leisures- that would lighten their depressive state and global daily suffering. It's a vicious circle.
The only positive, constructive escape is always the same; sublimation thru work / creative activity.
Now we all know kids from rich families can be badly mistreated genetically, physically, psychologically too, even if they have the money, but the money allow them to last longer; still they can feel as shity as poor people who werent loved either.
I hope that you re not into steroids and practice natural , physical conditioning...cause being extreme about lifting weights and doing drugs has nothing to do with doing something that is really "saving your life"...
We all have phases in our existences where things rebound, and downs. It can happen again even if you re in high times. So only the smartest, strongest, fittest calculate how to always be constantly in the high times, money helps. And yeah at some point you have to find a woman have kids and keep doing the good , healthy stuff you ve been doing . We re animals, "successful" animals dominate and replicate and control the whole thing the best they can with what they have.
There is nothing else to do anyway.
yeah. whenever someone talks about depression on the internet there's always the loads of fuckwaffles who are all "WHAT'S SO TERRIBLE ABOUT YOUR LIFE HUH WHY DON'T YOU GO LIVE IN DAMASCUS OR RWANDA AND SEE WHAT A BAD LIFE IS REALLY LIKE" but that's not how depression works. it's more like your brain just turns on you.
You are mistaking suicidal with a death wish. Those with a death wish don't necessarily wish to kill themselves, but they aren't afraid to put their lives in jeopardy. These people hold an unconscious desire to die, but that this wish is largely tempered by the life instincts. Self-destructive behavior is an expression of the energy created by the death instincts. I hate to break it to you and shatter you childhood superman fantasies, but there are no heroes.
Yes, these people have no idea.
Darkness Visible: A Memoir of Madness by William Styron described it very well IMO. But just reading about it will not make you understand it.
Just like every other organ in the body the brain has its problems - relative situation has nothing to do with it. No one would tell you to just get over heart disease or a liver condition.
Filth..It's actually spelled "Faith".
It's actually spelled "Faith".
yep. you have to feel it. there's no way to explain it.
someone once said this to me: being depressed/suicidal doesn't mean you think life is terrible, it means you think you are terrible and don't deserve life. that's why whenever someone is incredibly depressed, the WORST thing to do is berate them about their life isn't so bad and to try to convince them that other people have it worse. if anything, that just exacerbates the problem by reinforcing the "ugh i'm such a piece of shit" mentality.
It's actually spelled "Faith".
Just like every other organ in the body the brain has its problems - relative situation has nothing to do with it. No one would tell you to just get over heart disease or a liver condition.
well obviously it's genetical, you re genetically programmed to be depressed and less resistant to psychological warfare than others. So you need a calmer, quieter, slower lifestyle, a slow pace to not overload your nerves which are weaker , less "muscled" than other people who didnt have their genes corrupted by their parents drug abuse or their mental stability hurt by their past physical or psychological blows; you need to control your relationships more as you re prone to being backstabed by stronger minded people who see you as a toy so you better stick with weaker or similarly minded people isntead. Your life sucks? it could be even worse, that's what most people tell themselves to keep playing the game.
The problem is that people who come from shity families and have shity genes and predispositions to be depressed are often the ones who have the shittiest education, have to work the shitiest jobs and live around the shitiest people. They re also the ones who have not much money to pay for stuff -drugs, leisures- that would lighten their depressive state and global daily suffering. It's a vicious circle.
The only positive, constructive escape is always the same; sublimation thru work / creative activity.
Now we all know kids from rich families can be badly mistreated genetically, physically, psychologically too, even if they have the money, but the money allow them to last longer; still they can feel as shity as poor people who werent loved either.
I hope that you re not into steroids and practice natural , physical conditioning...cause being extreme about lifting weights and doing drugs has nothing to do with doing something that is really "saving your life"...
We all have phases in our existences where things rebound, and downs. It can happen again even if you re in high times. So only the smartest, strongest, fittest calculate how to always be constantly in the high times, money helps. And yeah at some point you have to find a woman have kids and keep doing the good , healthy stuff you ve been doing . We re animals, "successful" animals dominate and replicate and control the whole thing the best they can with what they have.
There is nothing else to do anyway.
well obviously it's genetical, you re genetically programmed to be depressed and less resistant to psychological warfare than others. So you need a calmer, quieter, slower lifestyle, a slow pace to not overload your nerves which are weaker , less "muscled" than other people who didnt have their genes corrupted by their parents drug abuse or their mental stability hurt by their past physical or psychological blows; you need to control your relationships more as you re prone to being backstabed by stronger minded people who see you as a toy so you better stick with weaker or similarly minded people isntead. Your life sucks? it could be even worse, that's what most people tell themselves to keep playing the game.
The problem is that people who come from shity families and have shity genes and predispositions to be depressed are often the ones who have the shittiest education, have to work the shitiest jobs and live around the shitiest people. They re also the ones who have not much money to pay for stuff -drugs, leisures- that would lighten their depressive state and global daily suffering. It's a vicious circle.
The only positive, constructive escape is always the same; sublimation thru work / creative activity.
Now we all know kids from rich families can be badly mistreated genetically, physically, psychologically too, even if they have the money, but the money allow them to last longer; still they can feel as shity as poor people who werent loved either.
I hope that you re not into steroids and practice natural , physical conditioning...cause being extreme about lifting weights and doing drugs has nothing to do with doing something that is really "saving your life"...
We all have phases in our existences where things rebound, and downs. It can happen again even if you re in high times. So only the smartest, strongest, fittest calculate how to always be constantly in the high times, money helps. And yeah at some point you have to find a woman have kids and keep doing the good , healthy stuff you ve been doing . We re animals, "successful" animals dominate and replicate and control the whole thing the best they can with what they have.
There is nothing else to do anyway.
Well said.what kind of meds are you taking stud?
Chemical imbalance are measurable and fixable. Depression is one of them. Difference between your brain and other organ problems is that your mind does affect your brain chemical profile. So does your mind creates the chemical imbalance or is it nurture? Often chicken & egg to figure out, especially with depression. That's why a combination of meds and therapy is often the best approach.
There is no snapping out of chronic depression. Or any other so called "disease" of the brain...Just like a person can't snap out of cancer or liver disease or heart disease. If a person has been dealing with depression for an extended period of time, it's not like you will wake up one day and it will be gone.most of the time they need a BREAK and to cut themselves from all sources of frustration to rebuild, strenghten their nerves. Pretty hard if not impossible to do when you have to insure your own survival, the survival of a family and when most people you know somewhat want to kill you/backstab you while pretending to care about you at work, family , friendships. Fact is it's everyone for themselves. A free for all.
The really sad part is that once you have experienced depression, especially to a larger degree, it becomes much like riding a bicycle.
You never forget.
Depression is extremely misunderstood, especially by those who have not yet experienced it.
Believe it or not, some people deal with depression their whole lives. Others only temporarily.
There are ways to get proper assistance in minimizing the effects of depression, but just like anything else, there are many attempts that have to be made, and sometimes this process alone can be nearly unbearable.
I work closely with some very depressed individuals. I also work with those who are bipolar. Up one day, down the next.
Fortunately, I have only had to deal with anxiety, which can be a bitch at times, but from what I've witnessed, anxiety is a cake-walk compared to depression.
I don't deal with panic attacks either. Those seem to go hand in hand with anxiety and depression also, but I have been fortunate not to have to deal with them.
Some people do indeed need serious medication. Others can benefit greatly from Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. It all depends on the individual.
Unfortunately, there is no "one size fits all" solution.
Here's the real kicker. For some folks, the symptoms will come on slowly. Those people have better options, but I have seen those who wake up one day, go about their day "business as usual" and then "WHAM" out of nowhere, it hits. Those are the people that are going to be impacted the most. They never forget *that* day.
It's actually spelled Filt
Yeah, Graham is a good guy.
He knowsdp is an unrepentant sinner who will be consumed by the lake of fire
comeon, depression , that is when things arent sooo good, sometimes things are good,sometimes they arent.
You don't have a clue.
Im seriously self destructive yet im not depressed, where do I fit in?
I just love anarchy
You belong in the Tea Party.
bit long posts lately, but Anyone who doesn't see what a genius this man is ..is a fool or is probably from some small town in idaho
.I don't really care to go into detail sharing stories about families I know to back up the bold but I will say growing up in the san fernando valley where Half of your friends were from beverly hills driving around in Bentleys in high school and the other half took the busin the ghetto and was on food stamps...def on the money.
Im seriously self destructive yet im not depressed, where do I fit in?
I just love anarchy
Im seriously self destructive yet im not depressed, where do I fit in?One theory holds that self-destructive behavior is an expression of the energy created by the death instinct. Freud call it a Death Wish. Those with a death wish don't necessarily wish to kill themselves, but they aren't afraid to put their lives in jeopardy. These people hold an unconscious desire to die, but that this wish is largely tempered by the life instincts (libido).
I just love anarchy
I grew up in Encino. Attended Birmingham High School. I don't recall Bentleys or ghetto kids. Most of my friends parents were clearly middle class. Some with a little more money than others. My wife grew up on North Roxbury Drive in Beverly Hills, she drove a VW Bug when she attended Immaculate Hearth High School. Guess Los Angeles has changed more than I thought.Looks weak man.
what kind of meds are you taking stud?
why not just eat a shitload of sweetpotatoes then white potatoes with tony chacheries creole seasoning, and take monster pyramid shits everymorning
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=506697.0;attach=544169;image)my wedding day man, I dressed as a samurai
haha, if this lot spilt your drink, you'd be the one apologizing!
Is that pic from your wedding ?yeah man
yeah man
Pretty cool. I dressed as an African Tribal Warrior for mine ;Dhaha
haha
We dressed in japanese wear in the day and 'normal' wedding clothes, suit and white dress for the wife, in evening
my wedding day man, I dressed as a samurai
Im seriously self destructive yet im not depressed, where do I fit in?
I just love anarchy
Pretty cool. I dressed as an African Tribal Warrior for mine ;D;D
None, I have my ups and downs like everyone, use supplements to enhance my ability to deal with stress and keep a good, positive mental focus. Here's my recipe:
Morning:
100mg 5-htp
2 teaspoons of Carlson's fish oil
200mg of Sam-e (buy Naturol, Jarrow's is pure shit)
100mg of Ginko Biloba
2 tabs of Focus Factor
Night:
2.5 mg of Melatonin
ZMA
None, I have my ups and downs like everyone, use supplements to enhance my ability to deal with stress and keep a good, positive mental focus. Here's my recipe:
Morning:
100mg 5-htp
2 teaspoons of Carlson's fish oil
200mg of Sam-e (buy Naturol, Jarrow's is pure shit)
100mg of Ginko Biloba
2 tabs of Focus Factor
Night:
2.5 mg of Melatonin
ZMA
Focus factor is a known fraud.
None, I have my ups and downs like everyone, use supplements to enhance my ability to deal with stress and keep a good, positive mental focus. Here's my recipe:
Morning:
2-skinny latte
1-banana loaf
2-bagel(low fat cream cheese)
1-power bar(mid-morning)
2 diet coke(mid-morning)
1/2pack cigarettes
Night:
1/2 bottle NyQuil
1-glass whole milk
4-low fat Oreo
1-joint(medical doctor rec.)
Fixed
I should be happier now that I've got a job now but I'm not. I made a lot of mistakes in my life and am sorry for it. But I can't go back in time and fix these things. Am I doomed to suffering? :(
Dude, I know this comment is 2 weeks old, but I've been where you are, trust me. A new job won't make a difference. Something isn't missing in your life. Something is missing within YOU. Did you lose your girl a while ago? Did that start all of this downward spiraling?
Anyone else ever dealt with depression? Lately I've been feeling really down in the dumps. Not the normal feeling down but like a lower level of downess. Im just really sad. I'm not looking for anyones sympathy so please. im just curious if anyone has ever dealt with depression and how they deal with it. If I had insurance I would think about going to see a doc.
"Belief in God may improve treatment for those suffering with depression, a study published earlier year found.
Faith in a higher being was found to significantly improve treatment for people suffering with a psychiatric illness, according to research carried out by McLean Hospital in Belmont, Massachusetts.
Researchers followed 159 patients over the course of a year at the Behavioral Health Partial Hospital program to investigate the relationship between a patient's level of belief in God, expectations for treatment and actual treatment outcomes.
Each participant was asked to gauge their belief in God as well as their expectations for treatment outcome on a five-point scale.
Researchers found that patients with 'no' or only 'slight' belief in God were twice as likely not to respond to treatment than patients with higher levels of belief.
And more than 30 per cent of patients claiming no specific religious affiliation still saw the same benefits in treatment if their belief in God was rated as moderately or very high."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2515637/Does-prayer-help-resist-temptation-Talking-God-boosts-self-control-emotional-stability-claims-study.html#ixzz2mL3kV6Yv
I 'believe' that religion is good for those who can't deal with the unknown.A good statement. 8)
I 'believe' that religion is good for those who can't deal with the unknown.
I've never really been depressed (unless I just don't know I am). Anxiety is more my style... :-\
He really doesn't.Absolutely! Or you witness other people going through it!
Until a person goes through a true clinical depression they have no idea.
that will do it..but cant he just get another one?
A good statement. 8)
This thread has a lot of legs. I'm not surprised. I think a lot of bodybuilders are depressives or have similar mental pathologies. It's one reason they work so hard to change their outer apperarance. The hope being is that if they change what's on the outside they will feel better about themself.again, everyone is depressed and struggling to survive, some just hide better than others, as simple as that. Nobody is always happy, most people pretend to be. Who is really happy most of the time? a rich person with a stable family , who wasnt mistreated as a kid and who does what he likes everyday. Or its poor equivalent.
I 'believe' that religion is good for those who can't deal with the unknown.
Some exogenous variables (i.e., those outside the bounds of one's skin) contributing to depression: Messed up relationships with other people; the way you were raised; a lack of opportunity to develop emotionally, physically, sexually, and so on; acute stress (you've lost your job, just broke up, and so on); chronic stress (a shithead boss that does little things to annoy you day by day); the stage of life you're in (being a teenager or a recent retiree with no job anymore, for example)
Some endogenous variables (i.e., those within the bounds of one's skin) contributing to depression: genetics -- data indicate certain mental illnesses unfold at certain ages in people independent of external stimulus, indicating a genetic cause (e.g., schizophrenia); your way of coping with stress (blaming yourself, loading up on drugs, whatever); your beliefs (believing you're a worthless piece of shite or some such will cause problems); your nervous system (some people have arousal systems that are wired to have intense reactions and this can contribute to depression); the chemical state of your brain (it is recognized that certain imbalances induce or are otherwise coextensive with depression in many instances)
Obviously, all of these variables interact with one another in a variety of complex ways, in addition to (probably) overlapping to some degree.
Solutions:
(i) Work to improve your relationships with others, or, if you don't have any, establish some.
(ii) Identity the opportunities you are missing out on and formulate a plan to expose yourself to said opportunities. This is broad and depends on your specific situation, but might include spending more time with members of the opposite sex, going back to school to have a better chance in the job market, etc. Take a whole weekend to reflect on your life and why you're unhappy, an activity which will naturally suggest means for rectifying the situation.
(iii) Develop an in-depth stress reduction regime, including a proper exercise and diet, meditation, supplementation, and whatever other activity you have found works to reduce stress
(iv) Get a cognitive behavioral therapy workbook (they publish them as self-help manuals these days) and try out some of its methods for a few months and see if things aren't better. If not, consider more in-depth treatment by a professional. CBT will address issues like irrational thoughts that contribute to depression (e.g., Luberyourman's absurd "your life is predetermined, all of life is about domination" bullshit) and certain behavioral tricks to ameliorate, and ultimately treat, your condition.
(v) Consider medication if your problem has been longstanding and isn't clearly linked to external events in your life.
(vi) Formulate goals -- long-term ones broken down into short-term ones -- and accomplish them on a regular basis. The accretion of accomplished goals recorded for posterity's sake can help one's self esteem, especially since if you're depressed you're probably focusing only on negative things, a bias a proper goal planning and recording program will help eliminate
(vii) Stay active: it's harder to be depressed when you are earning a pilot's license, riding a horse, surfing, learning a new language, exploring an ancient Buddhist temple, mountain biking, skydiving, fishing, proving a tough theorem, French corkscrewing a Brazilian belly dancer, reading an awesome sc-fi novel or work of literature, etc. rather than sitting at home sulking, even if at first you don't enjoy the activity to its fullest because you are, after all, depressed.
I have been battling severe depression for many years now, and let me tell you battling your mental demons is one of the hardest things in this world. You cannot escape yourself. I have suicidal thoughts every single day, and you get to the point your mind just drains all the life out of you.Yup.
He really doesn't.
Until a person goes through a true clinical depression they have no idea.
Some exogenous variables (i.e., those outside the bounds of one's skin) contributing to depression: Messed up relationships with other people; the way you were raised; a lack of opportunity to develop emotionally, physically, sexually, and so on; acute stress (you've lost your job, just broke up, and so on); chronic stress (a shithead boss that does little things to annoy you day by day); the stage of life you're in (being a teenager or a recent retiree with no job anymore, for example)well it can be sumarized that way; win, fight, kill instead of being killed, dominate instead of being dominated....thanks for info tho... ::)
Some endogenous variables (i.e., those within the bounds of one's skin) contributing to depression: genetics -- data indicate certain mental illnesses unfold at certain ages in people independent of external stimulus, indicating a genetic cause (e.g., schizophrenia); your way of coping with stress (blaming yourself, loading up on drugs, whatever); your beliefs (believing you're a worthless piece of shite or some such will cause problems); your nervous system (some people have arousal systems that are wired to have intense reactions and this can contribute to depression); the chemical state of your brain (it is recognized that certain imbalances induce or are otherwise coextensive with depression in many instances)
Obviously, all of these variables interact with one another in a variety of complex ways, in addition to (probably) overlapping to some degree.
Solutions:
(i) Work to improve your relationships with others, or, if you don't have any, establish some.
(ii) Identity the opportunities you are missing out on and formulate a plan to expose yourself to said opportunities. This is broad and depends on your specific situation, but might include spending more time with members of the opposite sex, going back to school to have a better chance in the job market, etc. Take a whole weekend to reflect on your life and why you're unhappy, an activity which will naturally suggest means for rectifying the situation.
(iii) Develop an in-depth stress reduction regime, including a proper exercise and diet, meditation, supplementation, and whatever other activity you have found works to reduce stress
(iv) Get a cognitive behavioral therapy workbook (they publish them as self-help manuals these days) and try out some of its methods for a few months and see if things aren't better. If not, consider more in-depth treatment by a professional. CBT will address issues like irrational thoughts that contribute to depression (e.g., Luberyourman's absurd "your life is predetermined, all of life is about domination" bullshit) and certain behavioral tricks to ameliorate, and ultimately treat, your condition.
(v) Consider medication if your problem has been longstanding and isn't clearly linked to external events in your life.
(vi) Formulate goals -- long-term ones broken down into short-term ones -- and accomplish them on a regular basis. The accretion of accomplished goals recorded for posterity's sake can help one's self esteem, especially since if you're depressed you're probably focusing only on negative things, a bias a proper goal planning and recording program will help eliminate
(vii) Stay active: it's harder to be depressed when you are earning a pilot's license, riding a horse, surfing, learning a new language, exploring an ancient Buddhist temple, mountain biking, skydiving, fishing, proving a tough theorem, French corkscrewing a Brazilian belly dancer, reading an awesome sc-fi novel or work of literature, etc. rather than sitting at home sulking, even if at first you don't enjoy the activity to its fullest because you are, after all, depressed.
Agreed.
Too much free time on his hands though to write all that shit. Hope it doesn't depress him.
Popping will cheer you up.
well it can be sumarized that way; win, fight, kill instead of being killed, dominate instead of being dominated....thanks for info tho... ::)
No one could be depressed after seeing this ;D
I think some people who think they are depressed actually are suffering from anxiety and sometimes they are suffering from both. I had to deal with some pretty tragic deaths of friends at a real young age not only that alot of my friends wound up in federal prison that year. friends of minewere also just dropping like flies and I was kind of fucked up about it all for about 6 weeks before I went to talk to a doctor about it. They gave me both a SSRI and a benzo, prozac and ativan to start with. The prozac was horrible! Prozac a SSRI is just the nastiest shit I ever tried. Prozac takes awhile to start working and while you are waiting for weeks for it to work you deal with nasty side effects. I wasn't really deprressed I was suffering from anxiety and insomnia wich is why the ativan helped me. I had also got ahold of a sample of xanax from the doctor just a 10 tab professional sample and it was like a miracle drug everything went away. I forgot about all my stress and worrys. The prozac took 3 weeks to kick in and it was just total shit! I wasn't really depressed so maybe that is why it did not work for me. The prozac did nothing to help me sleep it actually kept me up, and fucked up how my ativan was working.
Anyway long story short next appointment I told the doctor the prozac was garbage and I wanted to stop using them and even though I was only on them for 5 weeks he said he still wanted me to taper off and it could be dangerous if I quit cold turkey. So yes SSRI's are addictive and dangerous as well. The prozac really fucked up my blood pressure as well It jumped from 129/80 to 177/114. My doctor made me get bloodwork done to check my kidneys and liver.
I also told the doctor i wanted to get on xanax instead of the ativan the xanax seemed to work like magic. xanax is great if you get stressed out and also have insomnia. I was using steroids as well and when you get on high dosages of Test and other AAS you start getting insomnia and you get stressed out easier and the xanax fixed this problem. The dr. made me go get a mental health Evaluation to get the xanax he said the strongest drugs he could prescribe were ativan,valium and klonopin this was from a kaiser dr. he said if i wanted xanax I had to see a psychiatrist and do the mental health evaluation. So I did the evaluation and got prescribed 6mg of xanax daily but he said this was a huge daily dose and since I was young he wanted to do UA's and I had to wait 30 days exactly till I could get a refill. Alot of dr.s and half of psychiatrist think xanax is to strong of a drug to prescribe and your bound to get addicted. It is more addictive then heroin but if they make your life better and get them prescribed in a legit fashion and make sure never to stop taking it without tapering off you should be fine. the thing with xanax is once you start you are pretty much going to need them for life. It is a drug that not many people come off of or if they do it is not very easy but same thing with most SSRi's tapering is a must if you take a SSRI for a long time.
I think treating depression with medication is not the right idea. Like someone else said depression is for the weak. Anxiety is more of a real condition. people who are depressed are usually people who need to loose weight or get laid more. I just don't believe in depression and think it is very managable without medication. anybody who is depressed stay away from medications and people with aniety make sure you get a mental health evaluation and get a MRI on your brain and don't take any medication unless a psychiatrist suggests it. If a person with anxiety can stay off medication as well that is the way to go. medication works wonders for alot of us but your using drugs that are very addictive especially anxiety patients. Do I feel bad I got started on xanax and probably will take it my whole life, not really but it is something that was def needed for me to live a good quality life. If someone is depressed and finds a medication that helps them and thinks they need them to live a quality life then take them. just remember if you decide to come off the drugs make sure you taper off and if it has been years on the drugs it might take years to get you off the drugs.
There are so many things to help these conditions, money helps big time, getting laid alot helps big time, having alot of family around helps big time, sticking with your hobbys helps big time, exercise helps out big time, lots of things can help besides medication. If you have lost alot of family and friends in a tragic manner and have horrible insomnia that is where it is hard not to fall into taking medications.