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FSU quarterback Jameis Winston... NFL prospect that uses heavy bodybuilding compound movements such as bench press & squats... Wider than heath, better calves than Wolf...
He has that low Aaron Hernandez hairline... Many people believe that those with the very low front headline, regardless of race, tend to be highly violent and dangerous. Did he rape this girl? Or is she waiting until the final stretch of Heismann race & National Championship to take this story to national media, just to get a book deal and $1million interview with Katie Couric?
A DNA report connects Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston to the woman who alleges that he sexually assaulted her, reports ESPN.com’s Mark Schlabach.
According to the report, a Florida state crime lab determined that the chances that the DNA in the woman’s underwear is a match for someone other than Winston was one in 2.2 trillion.
Winston has not been charged with any crime. An attorney for Winston denied the reported allegations against his client after they emerged last week.
The attorney told the Tallahassee Democrat on Thursday that his client had voluntarily submitted a DNA test in the case. He also alleged that law enforcement had leaked the DNA report, which he says he has not seen.
Earlier Wednesday, the accuser’s family released a statement that claimed that a Tallahassee, Fla., police detective told the accuser that her life could “be made miserable” if she pursued charges. The accuser stopped cooperating with police in February, according to ESPN.com.
SI WIRE: Report: Police warned accuser about pursuing Jameis Winston sexual assault case
The family’s statement also alleged that detectives “specifically refused to collect Winston’s DNA or interview Winston’s roommate who witnessed the attack.”
More from ESPN.com:
The DNA match alone does not prove that Winston, a leading Heisman Trophy candidate, sexually assaulted the woman, as the accuser’s family claimed in a statement released by a Tampa-based attorney on Wednesday. But it does indicate that Winston, who has yet to talk to Tallahassee police or the state attorney investigating the case, had his DNA associated with the accuser on Dec. 7, 2012, when the accuser claimed she was sexually assaulted at an off-campus apartment.
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is she white? If black on black sex then it's not rape
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Jameis goin' ta jailis....
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She did a rape kit THAT NIGHT. So maybe it wasn't "he didn't call her back for a week, so she felt remorse and called police"...
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12 inch arm.
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There goes his Heisman!
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We've only heard one side of the story. Here's something interesting my friend sent me this morning.
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rape my ass. Feminists have fucking turned rape into a joke... Have you ever seen a woman that was raped. Its one of the worst images your brain will ever process. The women in Rwanda during the genocide were raped ( and men too)... It is violent and sickening. Nowadays in america, when a woman gets mad at you, she comes over and has sex then goes over and says she was raped... fucks you over.
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rape my ass. Feminists have fucking turned rape into a joke... Have you ever seen a woman that was raped. Its one of the worst images your brain will ever process. The women in Rwanda during the genocide were raped ( and men too)... It is violent and sickening. Nowadays in america, when a woman gets mad at you, she comes over and has sex then goes over and says she was raped... fucks you over.
Whoa.
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that low hairline is sickening
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Actually heard this kid speak for the first time today. He sounds dumber than a box of rocks, speaks typical nig-nog. But that doesn't make him a rapist.
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Whoa.
:D
i think i read somewhere its not rape if you yell 'surprise!' at some point during the act.
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I'm hearing rumors that it was a threesome between him and 2 mudshark blondes.
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Yes the hairline seems to be a main effect here.
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:D
i think i read somewhere its not rape if you yell 'surprise!' at some point during the act.
Might have been Bobby Knight that said that.
Great man.
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There goes his Heisman!
You got that right. Fame can be a bitch at times.
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There goes his Heisman!
According to surveys, he's still in the lead against Manziel. It's not like he's going against a choir boy like Tebow.
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Just like the kobe accuser, at some point, this chick's info will probably come out - particularly if they were fckbuddies and she got mad when his main chick came into town.
she should go to jail for the same sentence he would have received for a rape conviction, if she made it up to get him in trouble, and it was consensual.
Really, a stud FSU QB with NFL dollars coming his way, I highly doubt he had to rape girls. With so much to lose, these top draft college kids are usually very good at being careful on these things.
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Just like the kobe accuser, at some point, this chick's info will probably come out - particularly if they were fckbuddies and she got mad when his main chick came into town.
she should go to jail for the same sentence he would have received for a rape conviction, if she made it up to get him in trouble, and it was consensual.
Really, a stud FSU QB with NFL dollars coming his way, I highly doubt he had to rape girls. With so much to lose, these top draft college kids are usually very good at being careful on these things.
It's already out. There's this site called college leaks that students originally used to talk shit and gossip, but it has blown up recently because of this. Her name is Erica Kinsman, a Delta Zeta at FSU.
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even the female choir team is hot at FSU...
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Needs lasix
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Just like the kobe accuser, at some point, this chick's info will probably come out - particularly if they were fckbuddies and she got mad when his main chick came into town.
she should go to jail for the same sentence he would have received for a rape conviction, if she made it up to get him in trouble, and it was consensual.
Really, a stud FSU QB with NFL dollars coming his way, I highly doubt he had to rape girls. With so much to lose, these top draft college kids are usually very good at being careful on these things.
You do realized the alleged incident happened before Jameis was even the starting QB!
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You do realized the alleged incident happened before Jameis was even the starting QB!
He was still the top QB in the country coming out of high school. Everybody on campus already knew who he was before his starting days, just not the general public/media.
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Looks like a guy with the last name as Martin.
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Does she have any connection with Johnny Manzel's family. How awesome would that be?
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;D Bodybuilding gold right there.
All thats missing is some fire breathing dragons and a heavy metal band.
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You do realized the alleged incident happened before Jameis was even the starting QB!
yeah, but he's had NFL 1st round written on him since 8th grade. Those people on campus know he was about to take over once EJ went pro.
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yeah, but he's had NFL 1st round written on him since 8th grade. Those people on campus know he was about to take over once EJ went pro.
THis.
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will NOT be charged for rape
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Looks like a Black man got a break today. Merry Christmas
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Does she have any connection with Johnny Manzel's family. How awesome would that be?
manziel took the second half of the year off. He's just holding out for the NFL draft, playing not to get hurt.
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if I hear that stupid nig-nog say we're hoongry to win one more fucking time......
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The chick had 2 kinds of semen on her. She lied about being drugged, she was barely drunk. She framed him for consensual sex, there were 2 witnesses right there for the orgy thing they had. She had just met the dude and was a groupee. Police believed it from minute one. Witnesses confirmed it.
Now... there will be ZERO punishment for her, for making this garbage up. Unreal.
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The worse thing a black American male can do is date a black hair hatted hooligan . My advice to black men who want to succeed in life is to date anything other then ghetto black chicks they do a far better job then the KKK
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About as awesome as it gets..
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Great set of hair on this Brewskie
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Indeed!
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The chick had 2 kinds of semen on her. She lied about being drugged, she was barely drunk. She framed him for consensual sex, there were 2 witnesses right there for the orgy thing they had. She had just met the dude and was a groupee. Police believed it from minute one. Witnesses confirmed it.
Now... there will be ZERO punishment for her, for making this garbage up. Unreal.
The other semen was her boyfriend's. She obviously cheated on him with famous jameis and accused jameis of rape so her boyfriend would forgive her
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The other semen was her boyfriend's. She obviously cheated on him with famous jameis and accused jameis of rape so her boyfriend would forgive her
This. Or the boyfriend jerked off in the closet.
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Jameis Winston is about to start his third year of college and his second year as an active member of the Florida State football team. By now, one would think he can handle being alone and making responsible decisions.
But after winning the Heisman Trophy as a redshirt freshman last season, everything changed. At least according to his father, Antonor Winston, who told Rachel Axon of USA Today that he thinks FSU should have someone with his son at all times to keep him out of trouble.
"He's supposed to have somebody around him 24/7," said Antonor Winston specifically. "He a Heisman Trophy winner so (he's) definitely not supposed to be by (himself)."
This comes on the heels of Winston's most recent transgression: a citation for stealing crab legs from a supermarket, according to Alina Machado and Mariano Castillo of CNN. More importantly, it also follows last year's "Summer of Johnny," when Johnny Manziel transformed from Heisman winner to Internet celebrity and couldn't keep his name out of the news for the wrong reasons.
Florida State athletic director Stan Wilcox responded to Winston's father with the following statement, per Axon:
We are committed to doing everything in our power within NCAA rules to provide Jameis Winston with the resources he needs to thrive as a student and an athlete. We will continue to work with Jameis and his family to make them aware of all the support services the university has to offer.
Winston, of course, was also subject to a high-profile sexual assault investigation last fall. Even though he was ultimately not charged in that case, it was a far more serious offense than stealing crab legs.
For all the good he did on the field last season—going undefeated and winning a national championship along with the sport's top individual honor—he has seen little but bad press this winter and spring.
Perhaps the school and Winston's family should be doing more to shield him from becoming the next "Johnny Football," but at the end of the day, he is still a person—and he should learn like every other person how to govern his actions responsibly.
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Jameis Winston is about to start his third year of college and his second year as an active member of the Florida State football team. By now, one would think he can handle being alone and making responsible decisions.
But after winning the Heisman Trophy as a redshirt freshman last season, everything changed. At least according to his father, Antonor Winston, who told Rachel Axon of USA Today that he thinks FSU should have someone with his son at all times to keep him out of trouble.
"He's supposed to have somebody around him 24/7," said Antonor Winston specifically. "He a Heisman Trophy winner so (he's) definitely not supposed to be by (himself)."
This comes on the heels of Winston's most recent transgression: a citation for stealing crab legs from a supermarket, according to Alina Machado and Mariano Castillo of CNN. More importantly, it also follows last year's "Summer of Johnny," when Johnny Manziel transformed from Heisman winner to Internet celebrity and couldn't keep his name out of the news for the wrong reasons.
Florida State athletic director Stan Wilcox responded to Winston's father with the following statement, per Axon:
We are committed to doing everything in our power within NCAA rules to provide Jameis Winston with the resources he needs to thrive as a student and an athlete. We will continue to work with Jameis and his family to make them aware of all the support services the university has to offer.
Winston, of course, was also subject to a high-profile sexual assault investigation last fall. Even though he was ultimately not charged in that case, it was a far more serious offense than stealing crab legs.
For all the good he did on the field last season—going undefeated and winning a national championship along with the sport's top individual honor—he has seen little but bad press this winter and spring.
Perhaps the school and Winston's family should be doing more to shield him from becoming the next "Johnny Football," but at the end of the day, he is still a person—and he should learn like every other person how to govern his actions responsibly.
Typical nigs passing the buck on accountability and responsibility. M
Here's a thought Daddy Winston....try some proper fucking parenting for once in your goddamn life.
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Typical nigs passing the buck on accountability and responsibility. M
Here's a thought Daddy Winston....try some proper fucking parenting for once in your goddamn life.
El Diablo Blanco's gimmick ???
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I'm an alum and Winston is even starting to piss me off. His antics are getting old. He's the type of guy that will try to act normal during a press conference and then really black it up with his boys the rest of the time.
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I'm an alum and Winston is even starting to piss me off. His antics are getting old. He's the type of guy that will try to act normal during a press conference and then really black it up with his boys the rest of the time.
So that's his "normal" act? He's sounded like a moron in every press conference I've ever heard him in.
I can imagine how stupid he sounds when he's blacking it up with his niggas.
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What does blacking it up even mean? Should I white it up? ???
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What does blacking it up even mean? Should I white it up? ???
Are you black? if yes, then yes you should.
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What does blacking it up even mean? Should I white it up? ???
Stealing crab legs, bb gun fights with the homies, having a bunch of unpaid parking tickets, squirting DNA on blonde chicks while his homies watch, etc. You know. Stuff darkies do for fun.
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Stealing crab legs, bb gun fights with the homies, having a bunch of unpaid parking tickets, squirting DNA on blonde chicks while his homies watch, etc. You know. Stuff darkies do for fun.
Most of my White buddies did these things. ???
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Are you black? if yes, then yes you should.
How should I white it up?
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How should I white it up?
Speak coherently, dress well, get educated, get a job and become a productive member of society. If you're already doing that, congrats
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Jameis Winston stopped by police at gunpoint in 2012 incident
About five hours before Jameis Winston was involved in a BB gun "battle" that damaged the apartment complex where he lived in 2012, the Florida State quarterback was stopped by campus police at gunpoint and handcuffed for carrying a pellet gun near campus that he said he was using to shoot at squirrels.
Winston and teammate Chris Casher were briefly detained by FSU police on Nov. 25, 2012, after an unidentified person reported two men carrying a "long barreled handgun" on campus, according to a police report obtained by USA TODAY Sports.
DOCUMENT: FSU police report
Later that week, Winston and Casher were investigated for $4,200 in damage at their apartment complex caused by a BB gun fight just hours after they were stopped on campus.
Shortly after 5 p.m. that day, FSU police were dispatched to a bike trail on campus where they found Winston, then a redshirt freshmen, and Casher.
"I believe the suspects may have had a firearm so for my safety and the safety of the other individuals in the area, I drew my firearm from its holster and pointed it at the suspects with my finger outside the trigger guard," wrote Officer Anthony Gioannetti in the police report.
USATODAY
Jameis Winston: 'I learned from my mistakes'
The officer "stated several times in a loud voice" for the men to get on the ground. They dropped a pistol, which the officer did not initially see, before lying on the ground. Officer Garrett Williams handcuffed Winston and Casher, and Gioannetti then holstered his firearm.
Winston and Casher told police they were shooting at squirrels on the trail and that they had told other people on the trail the pistol was a pellet gun, according to the report.
Corporal John Wainwright arrived and took possession of the gun and pellets. He returned them to the players, who were released and not charged.
Deputy chief James Russell said FSUPD regularly patrols the bike trail and responded to the call because it was just off campus.
Winston told the Associated Press on Wednesday, "I'm not talking about that." And Casher, when reached by AP, used profanity and questioned why the incident would be reported nearly two years later.
USATODAY
As incidents mount for Jameis Winston, so does concern
Winston told police in 2012 he did not have a BB gun during the incident later that day at the apartment complex, and Casher said he had one but didn't fire any shots because he didn't have a carbon dioxide cartridge. Both admitted to taking part in these "battles," which included several players on the football team, in the preceding month.
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Earlier this summer, Florida State QB Jameis Winston took out an insurance policy valued at $8-10 million for disability and loss of value to cover his potential final season at Florida State.
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On Monday, Florida State told ESPN that the university is paying for the coverage.
No, it's not a violation of NCAA rules. (If it was, Florida State wouldn't be doing it or talking about it.) Rather, the university's involvement in the insurance is part of the Student Assistance Fund. The SAF allows schools to "assist student-athletes in meeting financial needs that arise in conjunction with participation in intercollegiate athletics, enrollment in an academic curriculum or that recognize academic achievement."
Tomahawk Nation first reported that Florida State was planning to pay. Winston's policy is based on his status as a likely top-10 draft pick in the NFL draft and he could be paid if he falls out due to injury or illness in the 2014 season at Florida State.
As a redshirt freshman in 2013, Winston was ineligible to declare for the 2014 NFL draft. He's the first returning Heisman candidate to purchase the loss of value part of the insurance since Sam Bradford at Oklahoma. Bradford won the Heisman in 2008 as a sophomore and returned for his junior season. He suffered a sprained AC joint in the first game of the season against BYU and when he returned three weeks later, hurt his shoulder again and missed the rest of the season. However, he was still selected as the No. 1 pick in the 2010 NFL draft by the St. Louis Rams.
When reporting the news in June, Yahoo's Rand Getlin said the premium on a policy like Winston's would run approximately $55,000-60,000. Last year, Fox Sports reported SEC schools were allotted $350,000 for the SAF, so Florida State likely has a similar amount.
While Winston's policy may represent a sizeable chunk of the money allotted to Florida State, is there any question that Winston is worth it? As the QB of the reigning national champions and the school's first Heisman winner since Chris Weinke, Winston is by far the most valuable athlete at Florida State and worth more to the school in marketing power and exposure than the premium on the policy.
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Seems you have a thing for Winston...
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Petty will put up the more spectacular numbers.
Winston will be the better football player.
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Jameis Winston Suspended for First Half vs. Clemson
According to Wolken, the sophomore signal-caller yelled the obscene phrase at the student union.
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Jameis Winston Suspended for First Half vs. Clemson
According to Wolken, the sophomore signal-caller yelled the obscene phrase at the student union.
Do they not know thats a meme?
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Do they not know thats a meme?
I bet people will now be yelling it during EVERY interview he gives for the rest of his career haha!
This guy is so entertaining. It's like johnny manziel with actual talent.
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I cringe every single time I hear an interview with Winston.
I'd say he sounds as dumb as a box of rocks but that would be insulting to a box of rocks.
He's rapidly approacing Manziel levels of douchebaggery.
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I cringe every single time I hear an interview with Winston.
I'd say he sounds as dumb as a box of rocks but that would be insulting to a box of rocks.
He's rapidly approacing Manziel levels of douchebaggery.
Great athlete notwithstanding
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Well... At least he has brought back the term 'Criminoles' to Tally!! :D
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Winston got in trouble TODAY for standing on a table in public say in "fuck" her right in the pussy.....will miss 1st qtr. against Syracuse .....true story
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Winston got in trouble TODAY for standing on a table in public say in "fuck" her right in the pussy.....will miss 1st qtr. against Syracuse .....true story
What is this guy in third grade?
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This is his 4th fuck up and he keeps saying it was a mistake I'm sorry for my actions...la la la same old b.s... putting a black eye on Florida State fo' sho
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This guy is always in trouble. He reminds me of the old LSU quarterback. Ryan Perilloux, dude was talented as hell, but as dumb as they come.
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Alabama student working for ESPNU tweets Jameis Winston joke about Florida State shooting
A University of Alabama student who serves as a campus reporter for ESPNU was heavily criticized on Twitter Thursday morning after posting a Jameis Winston-related joke about the shooting at Florida State University.
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Marisa Martin, an Alabama student, created controversy on Wednesday night. (LinkedIn)
John Talty | jtalty@al.com
Marisa Martin, a sports broadcasting student at the university, tweeted a joke about the Heisman Trophy winner after news initially broke of shots fired on the Florida State campus:
"Reported gunman on the FSU campus. Maybe he is heading for Jameis."
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/11/espnu_reporter_an_alabama_stud.html
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Alabama student working for ESPNU tweets Jameis Winston joke about Florida State shooting
A University of Alabama student who serves as a campus reporter for ESPNU was heavily criticized on Twitter Thursday morning after posting a Jameis Winston-related joke about the shooting at Florida State University.
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Marisa Martin, an Alabama student, created controversy on Wednesday night. (LinkedIn)
John Talty | jtalty@al.com
Marisa Martin, a sports broadcasting student at the university, tweeted a joke about the Heisman Trophy winner after news initially broke of shots fired on the Florida State campus:
"Reported gunman on the FSU campus. Maybe he is heading for Jameis."
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/11/espnu_reporter_an_alabama_stud.html
Supposedly ESPN has no connection to her. It's part of some campus connection thing, but she's not employed by them I guess.
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Supposedly ESPN has no connection to her. It's part of some campus connection thing, but she's not employed by them I guess.
She did the classic thing. I mean, to the tee.
first, she defended her tweet:
Since apparently I cant make a joke in all seriousness I hope everyone at FSU is safe & that the gunman is found. But I stand by my opinions"
Then she apologized:
look i let my emotions get the best of me and i sincerely apologize.
Then she used another account to announce she was "compromised":
Just letting everyone at FSU know this account was compromised.
then she self-deleted:
Martin later deleted her entire Twitter account.
Then she declared she was hacked and an investigation is underway:
marisam24 here just letting everyone at FSU know this account was compromised tonight. Sincere apologies and an investigation is underway
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So this lil white chick was in an orgy with winston? Who else was there? Would love to hear how that all went down.
Shit my college experiences was down right tame compared to all this shit. 18 yr old white chicks fucking a bunch of footballers in an orgy? I must have been hanging with dorks all day. None of this shit happened to ne
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She did the classic thing. I mean, to the tee.
first, she defended her tweet:
Since apparently I cant make a joke in all seriousness I hope everyone at FSU is safe & that the gunman is found. But I stand by my opinions"
Then she apologized:
look i let my emotions get the best of me and i sincerely apologize.
Then she used another account to announce she was "compromised":
Just letting everyone at FSU know this account was compromised.
then she self-deleted:
Martin later deleted her entire Twitter account.
Then she declared she was hacked and an investigation is underway:
marisam24 here just letting everyone at FSU know this account was compromised tonight. Sincere apologies and an investigation is underway
:D
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I heard Winston was recruited by the
"Fergusonites" for the upcoming riots...He has a great arm and will be able to really sling those molotov cocktails.
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Other than prematurely blowing his wad, it sounded like a lovely night. I happen to believe him more than the cleat chaser who was upset that she was being used as a piece of ass.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2014/12/03/jameis-winston-florida-state-code-of-conduct-hearing-statement/19867863/
The following is the statement Jameis Winston provided former Florida Supreme Court justice Major Harding as part of a Florida State State code of conduct hearing that concluded Tuesday. The statement was obtained by USA TODAY Sports, and the name of the woman who has accused Winston of sexually assaulting her has been redacted. It includes graphic sexual descriptions.
This statement contains my best recollection of my involvement with (NAME REDACTED). I apologize for the graphic nature of the matters I describe, but given the false accusations against me it is important to describe fully and accurately my interaction with (NAME REDACTED) to demonstrate that she willingly engaged in multiple consensual sexual acts with me with her full knowledge and consent. (NAME REDACTED) is lying about me. I have no choice but to tell the truth about her.
I did not rape or sexually assault (NAME REDACTED). I did not create a hostile, intimidating or offensive environment in the short period of time that we were together. (NAME REDACTED) had the capacity to consent to having sex with me and she repeatedly did so by her conduct and her verbal expressions. I never used physical violence, threats, or other coercive means towards (NAME REDACTED). Finally, I never endangered (NAME REDACTED) health, safety, or well-being.
In the late evening of December 6, 2012 or the early morning of December 7, 2012, Chris Casher, Ron Darby, and I arrived at Potbelly's. Many of my teammates were also at Potbelly's. At some point, I noticed an attractive girl dancing on the dance floor. A few teammates and I started dancing as well and I worked my way over to this girl and made small talk with her as we started dancing together. I asked her for her name and she asked me for mine. I told her my name. She said her name was "(NAME REDACTED)." To the best of my recollection, (NAME REDACTED) and I danced together for approximately 10 minutes. When we finished dancing, we continued to talk and I asked (NAME REDACTED) for her telephone number. It was loud in Potbelly's, so, rather than yelling her telephone number at me, (NAME REDACTED) took my cellular phone and entered her telephone number into my phone.
After (NAME REDACTED) entered her telephone number into my cell phone, we talked some more. I mentioned something about staying in touch or getting together later and then I went to mingle with my friends. Chris saw me talking to (NAME REDACTED) at the bar and told me he had already gotten (NAME REDACTED) number from (NAME REDACTED).
I did not buy (NAME REDACTED) a drink. I did not give (NAME REDACTED) a drink of any kind. I did not give her a shot of any kind. I did not give or offer to give any drugs to (NAME REDACTED).
Around the time Potbelly's was closing, Chris, Ron and I left Potbelly's and socialized in front of Potbelly's. Chris and I thought that (NAME REDACTED) was interested in both of us. I decided to send (NAME REDACTED) a text message letting her know that I was leaving and asking her whether she was ready to leave. Given our prior interaction and her response, I believe that it was clear to (NAME REDACTED) that my intent with the text was to find out whether she wanted to leave and go home with me. (NAME REDACTED) replied to my text saying in substance that she was ready to leave and was coming outside.
Chris, Ron and I were standing next to a taxi cab when (NAME REDACTED) came outside and voluntarily walked over to us. I do not recall exactly what was said, but we made it clear that we were leaving and (NAME REDACTED) made it clear that she wanted to leave with us. Since Potbelly's was closing, there were a bunch of students outside of Potbelly's, around the outside bar, and there were a bunch of taxicabs parked at the curb in front of Potbelly's.(NAME REDACTED) voluntarily left with us.
(NAME REDACTED) was not "taken," forced, or "coerced" into the taxicab. She was fully aware of what was happening; she voluntarily left Potbelly's in response to my text and she voluntarily got into the taxicab. If (NAME REDACTED) had protested, then I would have left her at Potbelly's. Additionally, if she had protested, the students and taxi cab drivers in front of Potbelly's would have heard her. (NAME REDACTED) was fully aware of her actions and she did not protest at all. (NAME REDACTED) left with us voluntarily.
The taxi cab ride to my apartment took roughly five minutes. During the ride, everyone was cheerful and talking. We asked (NAME REDACTED) if she had any friends who might want to come to our place and join us. I recall that she was calling some friends to come to our apartment.
Chris and I lived together in an apartment on the first floor of the Legacy Suites. After we arrived, (NAME REDACTED), Chris, Ron, and I went into my apartment.
Almost immediately upon our arrival, (NAME REDACTED) and I went into my bedroom. We were standing facing each other, kissing and touching each other's bodies. I eventually asked (NAME REDACTED) if she would perform oral sex on me. She said that she would. The lights in my bedroom were on and (NAME REDACTED) willingly performed oral sex on me. While (NAME REDACTED) was performing oral sex, I was close enough to my dresser to reach over to it, open a drawer, and retrieve a condom.
(NAME REDACTED) and I also engaged in intense foreplay and heavy petting during the same period that she was performing oral sex. I was with her on the bed during foreplay and I may have ejaculated a small amount of semen onto her clothing. (NAME REDACTED) assisted me in putting on the condom. I stood on the floor with (NAME REDACTED) on the bed and we engaged in consensual sexual intercourse. After sometime in this position, we changed positions. I got on my bed on my back and (NAME REDACTED) got on top of me. (NAME REDACTED) conduct and other verbal expressions left no doubt that our sex was consensual.
I recall hearing Chris and Ron outside of my room. The door to my room was broken so the door could not close fully or be locked. At some point, Chris came into the room. (NAME REDACTED), who was still on top of me, saw Chris and told him to get out of the room.
Chris left voluntarily. Chris did not tell me to stop having sex with (NAME REDACTED). Chris did not do or say anything to try to persuade me to stop having sex with (NAME REDACTED). (NAME REDACTED) did not do or say anything to Chris to express or indicate that she was being forced to have sex with me. In fact, after Chris left the room, (NAME REDACTED) got up to close the door completely. I told her that the door was broken and did not close all of the way or lock. (NAME REDACTED) then turned the lights off and returned to me.
Thereafter, either Ron or Chris pushed the door open as a prank. (NAME REDACTED) asked me if there was any way we could have more privacy. I took her into my bathroom. While in the bathroom, we began to have consensual sex again and eventually concluded having sex. After we finished having sex, we stayed in the bathroom for a few minutes talking and she then indicated that she was ready to leave.
(NAME REDACTED) dressed herself. While she was dressing, I asked (NAME REDACTED) where she lived and she told me that her place was not far from mine. I also got dressed and we left my apartment and got on my scooter. (NAME REDACTED) sat behind me on the scooter and wrapped her arms around my waist. After a short ride, perhaps three to five minutes, we arrived at the curb in front of Salley Hall. When I stopped at the curb, (NAME REDACTED) got off the scooter, gave me a hug, and walked through the Salley Hall walkway to her dorm, Kellum Hall.
Other than asking Chris to leave the room, (NAME REDACTED) did not say or do anything to express or indicate that she was upset about anything that occurred before, during, or after consensual sexual activities. From the time I met (NAME REDACTED) at Potbelly's to the time that I dropped her off at her dormitory, (NAME REDACTED) was fully aware of her surroundings and in control of all of her faculties. She was responsive and communicative. She had a pleasant personality and was fun to be with. During our consensual sexual interactions, (NAME REDACTED) engaged in sexual talk and took other actions that made it clear that the sex was consensual and that she was enjoying having sex with me. If (NAME REDACTED) did not want to have oral sex or intercourse with me, she was fully capable of expressing it to me, the taxicab drivers, the numerous students outside of Potbelly's, Chris, and/or Ron. Had she done so, I would have stopped immediately.
Rape is a vicious crime. The only thing as vicious as rape is falsely accusing someone of rape. (NAME REDACTED) and her lawyers have falsely accused me, threatened to sue me, demanded $7,000,000 from me, engaged in a destructive media campaign against me, and manipulated this process to the point that my rights have and will continue to be severely compromised. (NAME REDACTED) and her lawyers' public campaign to vilify me guarantees that her false allegations will follow me for the rest of my life.
At some point they will be held accountable, so I have determined that it is in my best interests to exercise my right pursuant to Rule 6C2R-3.004 (6)(d)of the Florida State University Student Code of Conduct and answer questions when experienced lawyers and other experts can assist me in confronting (NAME REDACTED) false accusation and when (NAME REDACTED) is subject to the penalty of perjury and other claims for (NAME REDACTED) falsely accusing me of rape.
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Wow, that statement sounds pretty realistic. I bet he'd pass a polygraph on this.
I doubt she would.
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Tampa Bay Bucs draft #1.
Will they take Jameis? Mariotta is safer, but he's going to be an average pro at best... after his 1st read fails, he's very mediocre. He just plays with pro receivers and O-line and has all day.
Winston could be Cam Newton in the pros...
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Tampa Bay Bucs draft #1.
Will they take Jameis? Mariotta is safer, but he's going to be an average pro at best... after his 1st read fails, he's very mediocre. He just plays with pro receivers and O-line and has all day.
Winston could be Cam Newton in the pros...
Last I heard, Jimbo said he wouldn't be surprised if Winston stayed in school. I have no idea why anyone in their right mind would stay, but we'll have to wait and see if he declares first.
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Tampa Bay Bucs draft #1.
Will they take Jameis? Mariotta is safer, but he's going to be an average pro at best... after his 1st read fails, he's very mediocre. He just plays with pro receivers and O-line and has all day.
Winston could be Cam Newton in the pros...
He'll be better compared to a Vince young type IMO
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he just needs a good coach. Put him with Harbarough somewhere and hot dog, we have a weiner!
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he just needs a good coach. Put him with Harbarough somewhere and hot dog, we have a weiner!
right now it seems like Jameis' Stock is taking a hit......according to popular Opinions, most Scouts said they would pick the Oregon quarterback to be on their team than Winston.....Ouch....Jame is' off field antics are catching up to him already and draft day is 5 months away....hahahahhaa
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Tampa Bay Bucs draft #1.
Will they take Jameis? Mariotta is safer, but he's going to be an average pro at best... after his 1st read fails, he's very mediocre. He just plays with pro receivers and O-line and has all day.
Winston could be Cam Newton in the pros...
Hahah. You're on crack. Have you seen How fast Marriotta is? Probably be the fastest QB in the NFL. He had a total of two ints all season. Goes to tampa and will have Evans and Jackson as wideouts. Not a bad deal for a rookie.
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He'll be better compared to a Vince young type IMO
He's nothing like Vince Young. He's not the runner Vince was but is a better leader, decision maker, more accurate passer, and will score a lot better on the Wonderlic. He's not much like Cam either who is a freak athlete. Winston is sneaky with his running and elusiveness, but it isn't even close to Vince or Cam in terms of legs. Winston has 300 rushing yards in his 2 years at FSU. In 3 years, Vince had over 3000! He does have a cannon like the two because he's also a collegiate baseball player. Jameis is a better leader than both (especially Vince) from what I've seen. Everybody rallies around the guy.
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would love to be that sword.
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He's nothing like Vince Young. He's not the runner Vince was but is a better leader, decision maker, more accurate passer, and will score a lot better on the Wonderlic. He's not much like Cam either who is a freak athlete. Winston is sneaky with his running and elusiveness, but it isn't even close to Vince or Cam in terms of legs. Winston has 300 rushing yards in his 2 years at FSU. In 3 years, Vince had over 3000! He does have a cannon like the two because he's also a collegiate baseball player. Jameis is a better leader than both (especially Vince) from what I've seen. Everybody rallies around the guy.
Sorry, but Winston appears to be as dumb as a rock.
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Sorry, but Winston appears to be as dumb as a rock.
Didn't say he was intelligent. He's smart with a playbook in his hand and on the field. The Wonderlic is easy as hell. Vince Young scored like a 6 the first time although they later said it was 16 which I don't believe. Cam scored 21 and he isn't some genius. Winston will be 20+
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He's nothing like Vince Young. He's not the runner Vince was but is a better leader, decision maker, more accurate passer, and will score a lot better on the Wonderlic. He's not much like Cam either who is a freak athlete. Winston is sneaky with his running and elusiveness, but it isn't even close to Vince or Cam in terms of legs. Winston has 300 rushing yards in his 2 years at FSU. In 3 years, Vince had over 3000! He does have a cannon like the two because he's also a collegiate baseball player. Jameis is a better leader than both (especially Vince) from what I've seen. Everybody rallies around the guy.
At the end of the day he's a fucking thug and his destiny is a prison cell, he thinks he's above morality and is a terrible decision maker in life, once he gets under a coach that doesn't suck his dick you'll see
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At the end of the day he's a fucking thug and his destiny is a prison cell, he thinks he's above morality and is a terrible decision maker in life, once he gets under a coach that doesn't suck his dick you'll see
What does that have to do with anything I said? Lol
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Hahah. You're on crack. Have you seen How fast Marriotta is? Probably be the fastest QB in the NFL. He had a total of two ints all season. Goes to tampa and will have Evans and Jackson as wideouts. Not a bad deal for a rookie.
You don't want a fast QB. Cause 5 big hits in their rookie years, and they lose 30% of that speed, ala RG3.
You want a tall, thick SOB that can haul ass when needed, can be durable, and is a little psychotic - able to forget shit, not get rattled, etc. Big ben, cam, you know the tall thick dude that can throwwww it.
FSU hasn't lost in 2 years, while their QB has been in the middle of a rape scandal + many other things. Put him in tampa bay with love smith + an amazing babysitter program, and you have him throwing 60 yard bombs to those badass receivers.
mariotta is RG3 all over again... let's see him down 17 points, and come back. let's see him when the DBs are as fast (or faster) than his receivers. mariotta doesn't see the 4th option. Winston does.
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Last I heard, Jimbo said he wouldn't be surprised if Winston stayed in school. I have no idea why anyone in their right mind would stay, but we'll have to wait and see if he declares first.
“I’m looking forward to next season and playing baseball,” Winston said, according to the Orlando Sentinel. “So I'm just trying to get better every day.”
:D
Could he come back? Definitely possible
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mariotta is RG3 all over again... let's see him down 17 points, and come back. let's see him when the DBs are as fast (or faster) than his receivers. mariotta doesn't see the 4th option. Winston does.
mariotta is nothing more than another college system QB.
winston is a waste of a #1 like johnny football.
i wouldn't draft either.
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mariotta is nothing more than another college system QB.
winston is a waste of a #1 like johnny football.
i wouldn't draft either.
I'm not impressed with any of the 3.
Especially Johnny and Winston with all the off-field and character issues.
It's just too hard to overcome that baggage if you are going to be a winning quarterback in the NFL.
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He gone....
Sheeeeiiiit
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so Jameis "Lobster" Winston will be in the Draft in a few months.....whichever team that pick this guy will have their hands full......shit, it will be an off the field drama 24/7 with this dude....it will be interesting to see if he can last in peace past his NFL rookie season
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so Jameis "Lobster" Winston will be in the Draft in a few months.....whichever team that pick this guy will have their hands full......shit, it will be an off the field drama 24/7 with this dude....it will be interesting to see if he can last in peace past his NFL rookie season
Plus he's only had 2 years of playing time in college.
Seems like a very risky pick to me.
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RG4. Dead by 25.
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Winston plays in a pretty tough pro-style offense and was academic All-ACC for two years.
Dude has a rifle and can make all the reads and progressions needed to be a good to great quarterback in the pros.
Will he stop lifting crab legs and yelling "Fuck her right in the pussy"? Probably.
He should probably avoid women that leave a bar in a cab with three dudes she doesn't know though. We saw how that played out.
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For two years, this 20 year old kid has been the most hated man in college sports. With a felony rape charge hanging over his head. He's still been all-academic, won a heisman, went 29-1.
He will be a good pro. They'll surround him with support and make life boring.
Mariotta will be a solid backup in the league but not a rock star, sorry.
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He's nothing like Vince Young. He's not the runner Vince was but is a better leader, decision maker, more accurate passer, and will score a lot better on the Wonderlic. He's not much like Cam either who is a freak athlete. Winston is sneaky with his running and elusiveness, but it isn't even close to Vince or Cam in terms of legs. Winston has 300 rushing yards in his 2 years at FSU. In 3 years, Vince had over 3000! He does have a cannon like the two because he's also a collegiate baseball player. Jameis is a better leader than both (especially Vince) from what I've seen. Everybody rallies around the guy.
I just wonder if he wouldn't be better off pursuing baseball stardom instead.
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I hate running quarterbacks. How many of them have to go to the NFL and fizzle out before we stop getting excited about them. These guys are fast and dynamic but they usually can't throw the ball into the ocean. I watched Cam Newton the other days vs the Cardinals and he was missing open receivers all day. Plus, in the NFL when you are outside the pocket that much guys tee off on you and you get injured. Then you factor in that most of them are as dumb as a box of rocks and have all kinds of trouble off the field, forget it.
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Another Hebrew NFL QB ::)
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I hate running quarterbacks. How many of them have to go to the NFL and fizzle out before we stop getting excited about them. These guys are fast and dynamic but they usually can't throw the ball into the ocean. I watched Cam Newton the other days vs the Cardinals and he was missing open receivers all day. Plus, in the NFL when you are outside the pocket that much guys tee off on you and you get injured. Then you factor in that most of them are as dumb as a box of rocks and have all kinds of trouble off the field, forget it.
I'm not sure if you're just stating your opinion on running QBs or implying that Winston is a runner. If it's the latter, he's not a runner. He mostly does it when he's in trouble. He had 67 yards rushing this season.
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I'm not sure if you're just stating your opinion on running QBs or implying that Winston is a runner. If it's the latter, he's not a runner. He mostly does it when he's in trouble, with the law. He had 67 yards rushing this season.
Fixed :D
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Fixed :D
:D 'brews will be 'brews
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rape accuser in rape documentary
https://www.yahoo.com/health/erica-kinsman-fsu-college-football-star-jameis-109219568312.html
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rape accuser in rape documentary
https://www.yahoo.com/health/erica-kinsman-fsu-college-football-star-jameis-109219568312.html
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She is obviously a lying mudshark.
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rape accuser in rape documentary
https://www.yahoo.com/health/erica-kinsman-fsu-college-football-star-jameis-109219568312.html
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No way I'm touching that mudshark
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She brought that on her messing with a kneegrow.
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she was riding him on his bed, but his dorm room door was broken. his roomates kept opening door laughing while they were banging.
so she went in the bathroom and bent over the toilet to let him finish.
then she accepted a ride home on his scooter.
classy girl.
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white whore played with fire and got burned.
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"The guy is going to be a complete bust...doesn't have the mental makeup needed...will set the franchise who drafts him back 5 years...should have stayed another year or 2 in college to develop" - poly 1/27/15
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"The guy is going to be a complete bust...doesn't have the mental makeup needed...will set the franchise who drafts him back 5 years...should have stayed another year or 2 in college to develop" - poly 1/27/15
I disagree. He will end up being one of the best backup quarterbacks the Winnipeg Blue Bombers ever had.
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"The guy is going to be a complete bust...doesn't have the mental makeup needed...will set the franchise who drafts him back 5 years...should have stayed another year or 2 in college to develop" - poly 1/27/15
How can a record breaking, national champion, Heisman winning quarterback who went 27-1 in his college career develop any more on the football field? I get that you mean the character concerns, but I don't think another year in college would improve his mental makeup. That's in his low-hairline/Hebrew DNA
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Rape? No problem. But if that kneeg lets 1.5 psi out of his footballs, he's fucking TOAST.
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in guess the experience made her more hungry
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in guess the experience made her more hungry
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Once they go black they always get fat.
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Why can't white girls at least choose a respectable Hebrew like a Parker or something? Or a Carlton? Always going for these thugs. She gets what she deserves
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Why can't white girls at least choose a respectable Hebrew like a Parker or something? Or a Carlton? Always going for these thugs. She gets what she deserves
It's not like she fell for this dude at an ice cream social or anything.
She got into a cab with 3 dudes to go back to their apartment after just meeting him at a bar a few hours earlier. Also, they found Winston's semen along with other semen that turned out to be another football player from a different school.
Sounds like she is the thug in this.
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It's not like she fell for this dude at an ice cream social or anything.
She got into a cab with 3 dudes to go back to their apartment after just meeting him at a bar a few hours earlier. Also, they found Winston's semen along with other semen that turned out to be another football player from a different school.
Sounds like she is the thug in this.
That's what I am saying. It's both these idiots but the trend is always these dumb white mudsharks that don't go for respectable Hebrews instead trash like these idiots
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How can a record breaking, national champion, Heisman winning quarterback who went 27-1 in his college career develop any more on the football field? I get that you mean the character concerns, but I don't think another year in college would improve his mental makeup. That's in his low-hairline/Hebrew DNA
I don't know the list of high level NFL quarterbacks who declared after their sophomore year but I doubt it is very long.
Even Luck and Manning stuck around an extra year when they could have easily went into the draft and been drafted very high.
That plus the lack of maturity is a cause for concern.
Succeeding as an NFL quarterback is a tough, tough job.
Winston comes back for another year and shows he's grown up a bit? Okay, maybe I'm a little more interested.
Sophomore QB with character issues?? I'm a bit worried on that one.
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I don't know the list of high level NFL quarterbacks who declared after their sophomore year but I doubt it is very long.
Even Luck and Manning stuck around an extra year when they could have easily went into the draft and been drafted very high.
That plus the lack of maturity is a cause for concern.
Succeeding as an NFL quarterback is a tough, tough job.
Winston comes back for another year and shows he's grown up a bit? Okay, maybe I'm a little more interested.
Sophomore QB with character issues?? I'm a bit worried on that one.
You make a good point. I mean, I understood why he left. Anybody in their right mind would after all he's done in 2 years, but it definitely looks more attractive to NFL teams staying another year and give yourself more time to mature mentally but those guys you mentioned arent 'brews. We're dealing with a 'brew here.
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ESPN will surely run a "30 for 30" piece on this guy one of these days. It will be preachy, sanctimonious, and heavy-handed. In the end, ESPN will "prove" that rich white heterosexual males "used" Jameis and made him a "victim."
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this dude is going to be a very entertaining professional.
"you don't even know how good I am yet..."
"I'm going to meet Peyton or Brady in the Super Bowl this year."
speaking at NFL combine now
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this dude is going to be a very entertaining professional.
"you don't even know how good I am yet..."
"I'm going to meet Peyton or Brady in the Super Bowl this year."
speaking at NFL combine now
Typical loudmouth douchebag like Sherman....He sure did show us "how good he was" with that incredible turnover ratio in the playoff game and getting his ass handed to him ::). This dude wont amount to SHIT in the NFL. He should have stuck with Baseball.....at least at baseball he could make a good career as a closer. He won't last 5 years in the NFL. I give it 2 tops before he is arrested with some SERIOUS charges completely bankrupt...
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this dude is going to be a very entertaining professional.
"you don't even know how good I am yet..."
"I'm going to meet Peyton or Brady in the Super Bowl this year."
speaking at NFL combine now
At Media day ???
Stupid Hoez
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lol...
yeah, winston was a mess for the 2nd half of the season. Erratic. Mariotta isn't looking ideal either, but looks like he can improve. Both were crap in the playoff.
Who's the 3rd ranked QB in this draft? whoever he is, he'll probably eclipse both of them.
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At Media day ???
Stupid Hoez
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Even worse than the hoe is the "white knight" in the OSU shirt...what a twatwaffle.
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lol...
yeah, winston was a mess for the 2nd half of the season. Erratic. Mariotta isn't looking ideal either, but looks like he can improve. Both were crap in the playoff.
Who's the 3rd ranked QB in this draft? whoever he is, he'll probably eclipse both of them.
I think Mariotta will be a better "overall" QB honestly. All Jameis has on him he is slightly more athletically gifted. Mariotta honestly is a smarter dude and less of a risk IMO to take. I could see Mariotta improving because he can be coached, Winston has proven over and over he can't listen to directions on or more importantly OFF the field. Lets be honest you start throwing millions at clown that cant make good decisions WITHOUT money what the hell do you think this cat is going to do OFF the field having unlimited finances???
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lol...
yeah, winston was a mess for the 2nd half of the season. Erratic. Mariotta isn't looking ideal either, but looks like he can improve. Both were crap in the playoff.
Who's the 3rd ranked QB in this draft? whoever he is, he'll probably eclipse both of them.
Winston threw 7 pics against Flordida and LSU and it could have easily been 12-13 pics if those DBs didn't have cement gloves on. Marriotta physically has the tools but he hasn't ever lead a huddle. He reads plays off a card. he's never had to audible. He is about 2 years of sitting on the bench from being decent. If any team drafts him and throws him on the field they will mentally ruin this kid. He needs a couple years to grow like Aaron Rogers did before playing.
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Who is taking winston ???
Mariotta ends up on Tennessee?
1. Bucs
2. Titans
3. Jax
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I think Mariotta will be a better "overall" QB honestly. All Jameis has on him he is slightly more athletically gifted. Mariotta honestly is a smarter dude and less of a risk IMO to take. I could see Mariotta improving because he can be coached, Winston has proven over and over he can't listen to directions on or more importantly OFF the field. Lets be honest you start throwing millions at clown that cant make good decisions WITHOUT money what the hell do you think this cat is going to do OFF the field having unlimited finances???
Mariota is a superior athlete. It's not even close. Winston is more pro ready besides his terrible immaturity and 10 cent head.
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Matiotta is a superior athlete. It's not even close. Winston is more pro ready besides his terrible immaturity and 10 cent head.
Amazing attributes for an NFL Quarterback.
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By the way, the REASON why pretty white princesses want a dark ghetto thug is because they want to be treated like a princess and be fucked like a whore. They usually don't get neither with white college guys so they settle with the second element with the brothas.
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The dude won the Heisman and a National Championship as a redshirt freshman.
I know that most aren't FSU fans so you just get the ESPN spin of Jameis but his teammates love him and he is a proven winner and leader.
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The dude won the Heisman and a National Championship as a redshirt freshman.
I know that most aren't FSU fans so you just get the ESPN spin of Jameis but his teammates love him and he is a proven winner and leader.
You're an IDIOT and obviously an FSU sheep.... a PROVEN leader leads by example and this asshat has done nothing but disgrace his program and himself OFF the field. He is not a proven leader just because he won a title against an Auburn team that was 2 plays from having 2 losses. You FSU fans amaze me with your "win at all cost" thinking. Winston is NOT a leader and he proves it over and over. Leaders don't get themselves in a position of getting accused of Rape, Shoplifting and then screaming obscenities at their own student body. Winston is a fucking idiot and then says "you all haven't seen the best of me" at an NFL press conference? hahahahahah and now possibly can't even throw at the combine and he is still talking shit.......yeah REAL leader this guy is ::) ::) ::)
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You're an IDIOT and obviously an FSU sheep.... a PROVEN leader leads by example and this asshat has done nothing but disgrace his program and himself OFF the field. He is not a proven leader just because he won a title against an Auburn team that was 2 plays from having 2 losses. You FSU fans amaze me with your "win at all cost" thinking. Winston is NOT a leader and he proves it over and over. Leaders don't get themselves in a position of getting accused of Rape, Shoplifting and then screaming obscenities at their own student body. Winston is a fucking idiot and then says "you all haven't seen the best of me" at an NFL press conference? hahahahahah and now possibly can't even throw at the combine and he is still talking shit.......yeah REAL leader this guy is ::) ::) ::)
He leads a football team not a Bible Study. Most of the guys on any Division 1 team are probably piece of shit prima donnas but that doesn't mean they can't be good pros.
See Randy Moss, Cam Newton, Michael Irvin, etc. As a matter of fact, see the whole early 90's Dallas Cowboy Football team.
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You're an IDIOT and obviously an FSU sheep.... a PROVEN leader leads by example and this asshat has done nothing but disgrace his program and himself OFF the field. He is not a proven leader just because he won a title against an Auburn team that was 2 plays from having 2 losses. You FSU fans amaze me with your "win at all cost" thinking. Winston is NOT a leader and he proves it over and over. Leaders don't get themselves in a position of getting accused of Rape, Shoplifting and then screaming obscenities at their own student body. Winston is a fucking idiot and then says "you all haven't seen the best of me" at an NFL press conference? hahahahahah and now possibly can't even throw at the combine and he is still talking shit.......yeah REAL leader this guy is ::) ::) ::)
Well said!
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You're an IDIOT and obviously an FSU sheep.... a PROVEN leader leads by example and this asshat has done nothing but disgrace his program and himself OFF the field. He is not a proven leader just because he won a title against an Auburn team that was 2 plays from having 2 losses. You FSU fans amaze me with your "win at all cost" thinking. Winston is NOT a leader and he proves it over and over. Leaders don't get themselves in a position of getting accused of Rape, Shoplifting and then screaming obscenities at their own student body. Winston is a fucking idiot and then says "you all haven't seen the best of me" at an NFL press conference? hahahahahah and now possibly can't even throw at the combine and he is still talking shit.......yeah REAL leader this guy is ::) ::) ::)
There are different kinds of leaders. Some lead by example and others get their teammates pumped up vocally. Both Mariota and Winston are good leaders who guys love playing for. Guys were shutting up and listening to a RS Freshman in Winston during his halftime speech during the BCS championship. They always rallied around him no matter what was happening off the field.
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Lol at how a college kid can make grown fan boy men melt down so hard. Lots of shit talk on women in here, men are just as retArded
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mariotta hasn't called a play since high school.
at oregon, it's called in, snapped to him, and he usually hits the first man, and sometimes (rarely) a 2nd option.
He's a thrower, not a QB. He didn't have to make decisions other than "back 1 is covered, do I throw to back 2 or throw away?"
He is working hard, has the tools, but that's 3-4 years of experience he needs.
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It is best to play a large immobile white man at QB.
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espn's todd mcshea hinting today...
Winston will be first UNLESS private investigators discover info about Jameis which is so bad they move to mariotta
??? seemed odd. Maybe ESPN knows something they can't release quite yet. Let's face it, Jameis had the "give no fcks" attitude to shoplift food twice, scream things, have BB gun fights... unless he was caught 100% of the time, there's probably a ton of shady shit out there. Bribe a few of his hangers-on, and I bet they're all talking about it, complete with selfies.
Just seemed a weird thing for the draft analyst to say, you never hear comments like this one.
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Supposedly Winston aced every test at the combine.....I saw the interview on the NFL network with him Mariotta together after their workouts and Winston came across great, upbeat, charisma, good personality and Mariotta was "Umm, uhh, Umm"
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Supposedly Winston aced every test at the combine.....I saw the interview on the NFL network with him Mariotta together after their workouts and Winston came across great, upbeat, charisma, good personality and Mariotta was "Umm, uhh, Umm"
yeah, they could find video of winston doing any kind of crime, and they'd bury it. he's smart, he's just spoiled/entitled.
his career will be more fun to watch than manziel or tebow, since everyone knows they wash out of league in 3 years. Jameis will stick around for a decade.
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Jameis Winston, who is widely projected to be selected with the No. 1 overall pick, does not plan to attend the 2015 NFL draft as he currently prefers to spend that day with family and friends in Alabama, his father told ESPN.com on Monday.
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Jameis Winston, who could be the No. 1 overall pick, may spend draft day with friends and family instead of shaking hands with commissioner Roger Goodell.
Antonor Winston told ESPN.com's David Hale that the plan for now was for his son not to attend the draft in Chicago, but that the decision "was not set in stone."
The story was first reported by TheMMQB.com.
Winston, the Florida State quarterback who won the 2013 Heisman Trophy, recently flew to New York to meet with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and other league officials.
This year's draft will be held from April 30-May 2 in Chicago.
Several draft experts, including ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. and Todd McShay, have Winston being selected No. 1 overall by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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He's nothing like Vince Young. He's not the runner Vince was but is a better leader, decision maker, more accurate passer, and will score a lot better on the Wonderlic. He's not much like Cam either who is a freak athlete. Winston is sneaky with his running and elusiveness, but it isn't even close to Vince or Cam in terms of legs. Winston has 300 rushing yards in his 2 years at FSU. In 3 years, Vince had over 3000! He does have a cannon like the two because he's also a collegiate baseball player. Jameis is a better leader than both (especially Vince) from what I've seen. Everybody rallies around the guy.
Sorry, but Winston appears to be as dumb as a rock.
Didn't say he was intelligent. He's smart with a playbook in his hand and on the field. The Wonderlic is easy as hell. Vince Young scored like a 6 the first time although they later said it was 16 which I don't believe. Cam scored 21 and he isn't some genius. Winston will be 20+
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I can't believe there are guys on this site who would dare worship this
(http://i.imgur.com/52k0wjb.jpg)
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yeah, they could find video of winston doing any kind of crime, and they'd bury it. he's smart, he's just spoiled/entitled.
his career will be more fun to watch than manziel or tebow, since everyone knows they wash out of league in 3 years. Jameis will stick around for a decade.
who's the 3rd QB in the draft? I wouldn't touch Winston (a mixture of pryor, vince and russell), which means he will fail long-term. Oregon's QB is just a system child. don't waste the 1st overall on either one. These guys aren't doug williams. tampa bay will remain in the dark ages.
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The kid from Baylor. Price or something? Looked like he might be the best qb in this draft. Big strong and smart.
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who's the 3rd QB in the draft? I wouldn't touch Winston (a mixture of pryor, vince and russell), which means he will fail long-term. Oregon's QB is just a system child. don't waste the 1st overall on either one. These guys aren't doug williams. tampa bay will remain in the dark ages.
Haha Doug Williams? Yeah, he's got a ring, but he couldn't even complete 50% of his career passes. There's been a lot of black QBs better than him. And Winston isn't a mix of Pryor, Vince, and Russell. He's got bust potential like any other QB, but you just compared him to a bunch of lazy, black QBs and anybody who knows the guy's career knows that he's a competitor, has football smarts, and leads his players.
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The kid from Baylor. Price or something? Looked like he might be the best qb in this draft. Big strong and smart.
Petty. He was great at Baylor but his injury history and any association to RG3 May mess with his draft stock.
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Petty. He was great at Baylor but his injury history and any association to RG3 May mess with his draft stock.
Scouts are smarter than that...They are 2 completely different players.
I think Petty could be a bit of a sleeper in this draft and could turn out to be a solid QB for a team.
Good physical size, above average mobility, good arm. Coming out after his Senior year so he has the maturity and experience.
Has had excellent coaching in a dynamic pass offense and the kid is also extremely smart. Team first guy and shows alot of character.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2429613-big-time-thrower-bryce-petty-talented-as-any-qb-drafted-in-round-1-of-2014
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Scouts use school, system and coaching as factors all the time. Petty and RG3 have the same for all those things. Not too mention his injury history. There's a reason he isn't projected to be a 1st round pick. He may end up being a fine pro but he won't be given the benefit of the doubt the way he would have if RG3 was a preeminent pro bowler.
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Scouts use school, system and coaching as factors all the time. Petty and RG3 have the same for all those things. Not too mention his injury history. There's a reason he isn't projected to be a 1st round pick. He may end up being a fine pro but he won't be given the benefit of the doubt the way he would have if RG3 was a preeminent pro bowler.
The problem is you are singling out ONE PLAYER in a "system" that goes back over 20 years.
Coach Briles has been EXTREMELY successful with quarterbacks over his career. His teams set passing records and won 4 state titles with his QBs at Stephenville High and sent almost every one of those QBs to D1 schools.
The majority of his college quarterbacks went on to NFL or were right there in the hunt to make it onto an NFL team.
Oh but ONE GUY defines a "coaching sytem" ::)
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What qb had come from Briles spread system has become a franchise player? That's what defines his coaching system. If Petty came from a qb factory and ran a pro style offense in college he'd be given 1st round consideration.
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What qb had come from Briles spread system has become a franchise player? That's what defines his coaching system. If Petty came from a qb factory and ran a pro style offense in college he'd be given 1st round consideration.
Where is there ANY college system that is churning out "Franchise" quarterbacks?
Where are these NFL "QB" factories you are talking about? Give me specific names.
Where is the college or system out there where you go to consistently pick up a Brady, Brees, Manning, etc?
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I'd consider USC a qb factory as much as I dislike them. Briles is yet to have a single qb be a consistent starter starter. If Petty had played at USC and put up comparable numbers he'd be in a different situation. Guys like Cutcliffe and Tedford would have given him some extra points based on their previous reputations as churning out NFL quarterbacks.
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I'd consider USC a qb factory as much as I dislike them. Briles is yet to have a single qb be a consistent starter starter. If Petty had played at USC and put up comparable numbers he'd be in a different situation. Guys like Cutcliffe and Tedford would have given him some extra points based on their previous reputations as churning out NFL quarterbacks.
Where are all these USC consistent starters?
In the past 20 years all that comes to mind for me is Carson Palmer.
Who else am I missing?
"QB Factory" doesn't exactly come to mind when I think of 1 consistent starter in the past 20 years.
And I could arguably use your own argument towards RG3 when speaking about Matt Leinart.