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Title: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 24, 2013, 11:46:14 AM
Obviously one of the residents in that neighborhood shot him for being a suspicious black male....problem is that he was a U.S Postal Worker delivering mail.... ::)


Killing a federal worker is pretty serious....punishable by death


Police said that around 7:20 p.m. officers were called to the 1600 block of Reed Street for reports of a shooting. When they arrived, they found Barnette suffering from apparent gunshot wounds. He was pronounced dead at the scene. Officials said detectives are working to identify the suspect or suspects and a motive in this case.

George T. Maffett, Jr., a spokesman for USPS said that Barnette had been a letter carrier for two years and had been on this particular Landover route three times in the last month.

On Sunday, union officials also expressed their sympathy.

“Our thoughts and prayers are with the letter carrier and his family during this very difficult time,’’ said Fredric Rolando, president of the National Association of Letter Carriers, adding that: “The nation’s letter carriers deliver the mail in every community throughout the country. This tragic incident highlights the need in all operational decisions about how and when mail is delivered to give priority consideration to the safety of these dedicated public servants.”

One resident of the street said he was returning home just as the carrier had finished placing mail into the letter box at his house.

He said the worker was not the regular carrier, and when he called to him, he did not respond.

The man took his mail and went into his house. Within minutes, the man said, he heard two or three gunshots.

When he looked out, he said, he noted that a Postal Service truck was near the corner of the street but he did not see a carrier.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Archer77 on November 24, 2013, 11:47:56 AM
Vince, don't even try to make this seem like its a regular thing.  Every statistic says otherwise.  For every one of these, there are hundreds of black on white crimes.   I never pegged you as a mini-sharpton.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 24, 2013, 11:52:22 AM
Vince, don't even try to make this seem like its a regular thing.  Every statistic says otherwise.  For every one of these, there are hundreds of black on white crimes.   I never pegged you as a mini-sharpton.


Never mention Sharpton again...I don't like him and I definitely don't like Jesse Jackson after I met the guy while working in corrections. 

I'm basically saying that some moron saw a black guy "who didn't belong" and decided to kill him despite the fact that he's in a USPS uniform and driving around in a USPS truck.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Archer77 on November 24, 2013, 11:58:52 AM

Never mention Sharpton again...I don't like him and I definitely don't like Jesse Jackson after I met the guy while working in corrections. 

I'm basically saying that some moron saw a black guy "who didn't belong" and decided to kill him despite the fact that he's in a USPS uniform and driving around in a USPS truck.

Fair enough but this is far from an epidemic.   Are you posting this in response to the knockout game threads?
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: RRKore on November 24, 2013, 12:43:50 PM

Never mention Sharpton again...I don't like him and I definitely don't like Jesse Jackson after I met the guy while working in corrections. 

I'm basically saying that some moron saw a black guy "who didn't belong" and decided to kill him despite the fact that he's in a USPS uniform and driving around in a USPS truck.

Sorry to change the subject but what was the story about meeting Jesse?  What happened?
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: 240 is Back on November 24, 2013, 01:00:07 PM
arrest the shooter and give him life in prison without parole.

WAY TOO MANY irresponsible gun owners willing to shoot someone cause they think they'll get away with it.

"Can I shoot someone if..." = they should be open-hand slapped just for asking.

You shoot when a life is in danger, not when you see someone you don't recognize.  Wearing a postmans clothing.  Unreal.  Idiots are way too happy to shoot first, ask later.  Lock him up!
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Archer77 on November 24, 2013, 04:01:49 PM
arrest the shooter and give him life in prison without parole.

WAY TOO MANY irresponsible gun owners willing to shoot someone cause they think they'll get away with it.

"Can I shoot someone if..." = they should be open-hand slapped just for asking.

You shoot when a life is in danger, not when you see someone you don't recognize.  Wearing a postmans clothing.  Unreal.  Idiots are way too happy to shoot first, ask later.  Lock him up!

The solution really is that simple.  Lock him up and throw away the key but don't try to use him as symbol or representation of a larger problem because its disingenuous.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 25, 2013, 11:33:50 AM
Was he smoking dope, breaking into houses, fighting, getting suspended from work, and beating up strangers too? 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 25, 2013, 11:38:24 AM
Was he smoking dope, breaking into houses, fighting, getting suspended from work, and beating up strangers too? 

WWJD

lol...christians
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 25, 2013, 11:40:54 AM
Was he smoking dope, breaking into houses, fighting, getting suspended from work, and beating up strangers too? 

ohhh i get it...so for the weed (that the ME said was extremely low traces of) and fights, those were punishable by death....

shit i needed to get killed many times over...

I got into fights, underaged drinking and got suspended...and yeah i would have punched a weirdo for following me and attacking me..

Maybe college wasnt for me... i needed to be shot at 17


fucking amazing
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: bears on November 25, 2013, 01:20:18 PM
Obviously one of the residents in that neighborhood shot him for being a suspicious black male....problem is that he was a U.S Postal Worker delivering mail.... ::)


Killing a federal worker is pretty serious....punishable by death


Police said that around 7:20 p.m. officers were called to the 1600 block of Reed Street for reports of a shooting. When they arrived, they found Barnette suffering from apparent gunshot wounds. He was pronounced dead at the scene. Officials said detectives are working to identify the suspect or suspects and a motive in this case.

George T. Maffett, Jr., a spokesman for USPS said that Barnette had been a letter carrier for two years and had been on this particular Landover route three times in the last month.

On Sunday, union officials also expressed their sympathy.

“Our thoughts and prayers are with the letter carrier and his family during this very difficult time,’’ said Fredric Rolando, president of the National Association of Letter Carriers, adding that: “The nation’s letter carriers deliver the mail in every community throughout the country. This tragic incident highlights the need in all operational decisions about how and when mail is delivered to give priority consideration to the safety of these dedicated public servants.”

One resident of the street said he was returning home just as the carrier had finished placing mail into the letter box at his house.

He said the worker was not the regular carrier, and when he called to him, he did not respond.

The man took his mail and went into his house. Within minutes, the man said, he heard two or three gunshots.

When he looked out, he said, he noted that a Postal Service truck was near the corner of the street but he did not see a carrier.


why are you turning this into a race thing?  we don't even know who the shooter is yet.  if a white person was killed and I started calling it a hate crime committed by a black man without ANY evidence of that whatsoever i'd be considered a racist.......and rightly so.

Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Archer77 on November 25, 2013, 01:32:30 PM
why are you turning this into a race thing?  we don't even know who the shooter is yet.  if a white person was killed and I started calling it a hate crime committed by a black man without ANY evidence of that whatsoever i'd be considered a racist.......and rightly so.



Do you don't think it's coincidental that after the knockout game posts, two black forum members make posts about what they believe is white racism?  Divas never share the spotlight.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: bears on November 25, 2013, 01:48:57 PM
Do you don't think it's coincidental that after the knockout game posts, two black forum members make posts about what they believe is white racism?  Divas never share the spotlight.

I guess.  I just don't see how he DOESN'T SEE that his comments are totally racist.  it's like he's not even trying to hide his hatred of white people.  and most of the whites on here just sit here and take it.  ridiculous. 

people like me, the half white, half Mexicans see through that bullshit.  if it's not fair, it's not fair.  it's just odd to me how he thinks he has the right to be racist.  but that's what television and radio teach these impressionable lemmings.  we have to change what's being presented to people like him before we think we can change him.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 25, 2013, 01:59:58 PM
WWJD

lol...christians

Bust a cap, but I said that the last time you asked.  I'm sure you'll be using that tired line again.  You need some new material. 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 25, 2013, 02:01:35 PM
ohhh i get it...so for the weed (that the ME said was extremely low traces of) and fights, those were punishable by death....

shit i needed to get killed many times over...

I got into fights, underaged drinking and got suspended...and yeah i would have punched a weirdo for following me and attacking me..

Maybe college wasnt for me... i needed to be shot at 17


fucking amazing

If you were smoking weed a couple times a week with no job (how does that happen??), breaking into houses and stealing people's stuff, getting suspended from school, fighting, and were beating the crap out of a stranger, breaking his nose, etc., then yeah you needed to be shot.  Did you do that? 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: dario73 on November 25, 2013, 02:03:01 PM
WWJD

lol...christians

Tell us what Jesus would do.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: dario73 on November 25, 2013, 02:08:35 PM
Was he smoking dope, breaking into houses, fighting, getting suspended from work, and beating up strangers too? 

Racist libtards never let details and fact get in the way of their non-sensical arguments.

Did this man, the letter carrier, punch a stranger in the face, get on top of the stranger and repeatedly beat his head unto the curb?  He didn't? So how is this the same as the trayvon case?
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 25, 2013, 02:21:52 PM
If you were smoking weed a couple times a week with no job (how does that happen??), breaking into houses and stealing people's stuff, getting suspended from school, fighting, and were beating the crap out of a stranger, breaking his nose, etc., then yeah you needed to be shot.  Did you do that? 


Woah..how did he encounter this stranger?
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 25, 2013, 02:23:46 PM
Racist libtards never let details and fact get in the way of their non-sensical arguments.

Did this man, the letter carrier, punch a stranger in the face, get on top of the stranger and repeatedly beat his head unto the curb?  He didn't? So how is this the same as the trayvon case?

No comparison.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 25, 2013, 02:25:07 PM

Woah..how did he encounter this stranger?

"What difference at this point does it make."  H. Clinton.

He was beating the crap out of a stranger who happened to have a loaded gun.  Tragic case, but he brought it on himself.  Get over it already.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 25, 2013, 03:23:01 PM
Was he smoking dope, breaking into houses, fighting, getting suspended from work, and beating up strangers too? 


Trayvon was not breaking into house or beating up strangers and he didn't have a job.  He smoked weed like a lot of other kids...black and white.  He had no criminal record whatsoever...not even a juvenille record.  And who hasn't gotten into a fight at school before??? ::)  Even with that being said.  He didn't deserve to get killed by Zimmerman and by his own actions recently, he's showing his true colors.


But getting back to this, this guy was a USPS Postal Worker...I've love to see the excuse that someone comes up with for this one
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 25, 2013, 03:26:23 PM

Trayvon was not breaking into house or beating up strangers and he didn't have a job.  He smoked weed like a lot of other kids...black and white.  He had no criminal record whatsoever...not even a juvenille record.  And who hasn't gotten into a fight at school before??? ::)  Even with that being said.  He didn't deserve to get killed by Zimmerman and by his own actions recently, he's showing his true colors.


But getting back to this, this guy was a USPS Postal Worker...I've love to see the excuse that someone comes up with for this one

He was suspended from school for having burglary tools and women's jewelry in his backpack.  Pretty obvious where the jewelry came from.   

I'm not saying he deserved to die, but he is responsible for his own death. 

What excuse do people need for the postal worker? 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 25, 2013, 03:29:43 PM
He was suspended from school for having burglary tools and women's jewelry in his backpack.  Pretty obvious where the jewelry came from.   

I'm not saying he deserved to die, but he is responsible for his own death. 

What excuse do people need for the postal worker? 


Innocent until proven guilty...right BB????  As far as his death is concerned...all we know is Zimmerman's side and quite frankly from his recent actions, he was lying.  Even his wife thinks he was lying straight from the beginning. 


But he'll have to answer to a higher authority one day.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 25, 2013, 03:35:40 PM

Innocent until proven guilty...right BB????  As far as his death is concerned...all we know is Zimmerman's side and quite frankly from his recent actions, he was lying.  Even his wife thinks he was lying straight from the beginning.  


But he'll have to answer to a higher authority one day.

Martin was not on trial, so no he's not innocent until proven guilty.  Nothing prevents us from forming opinions about someone's conduct when we're not sitting on a jury.

Where did his wife say he was lying from the beginning?  I missed that one.  

Zimmerman has already been persecuted.  He acted in self defense.  That's what the jury said.  It's over.  

Why did you mention the postal worker in the same breath with Martin?
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Archer77 on November 25, 2013, 03:38:04 PM
Martin was not on trial, so no he's not innocent until proven guilty.  Nothing prevents us from forming opinions about someone's conduct when we're not sitting on a jury.

Where did his wife say he was lying from the beginning?  I missed that one.  

Zimmerman has already been persecuted.  He acted in self defense.  That's what the jury said.  It's over.  

Why did you mention the postal worker in the same breath with Martin?

Tit for tat.  He didn't like the knockout game posts so he attempted deflection. 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 25, 2013, 03:42:53 PM
Tit for tat.  He didn't like the knockout game posts so he attempted deflection. 

Well that's petty.  I don't see any correlation at all.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: bears on November 26, 2013, 07:46:09 AM

Innocent until proven guilty...right BB????  As far as his death is concerned...all we know is Zimmerman's side and quite frankly from his recent actions, he was lying.  Even his wife thinks he was lying straight from the beginning. 


But he'll have to answer to a higher authority one day.

coming from the guy who sees that a black guy is murdered and automatically assumes not only that it was a white guy who did it, but that it was a hate crime against blacks. 

you should read your own posts before you press "post" dude.  seriously.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: dario73 on November 26, 2013, 08:03:13 AM
coming from the guy who sees that a black guy is murdered and automatically assumes not only that it was a white guy who did it, but that it was a hate crime against blacks. 

you should read your own posts before you press "post" dude.  seriously.

LOL!!

Thread over.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 26, 2013, 08:18:24 AM
coming from the guy who sees that a black guy is murdered and automatically assumes not only that it was a white guy who did it, but that it was a hate crime against blacks. 

you should read your own posts before you press "post" dude.  seriously.

I took an educated guess to the circumstances based on the info available....we'll see what happens
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Archer77 on November 26, 2013, 08:26:27 AM
I took an educated guess to the circumstances based on the info available....we'll see what happens

Isn't that what profiling is?  If you were really taking an educated guess based on statistics, wouldn't you naturally assume the murderer was black?
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: bears on November 26, 2013, 09:08:26 AM
I took an educated guess to the circumstances based on the info available....we'll see what happens

an EDUCATED guess???  you mean a black guy died.......so your educated guess is that a white guy did it.......because he hates black people.  yeah OK.

Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: 240 is Back on November 26, 2013, 09:09:50 AM
Zimmerman wasn't a racist.  He wouldn't have chased Condi Rice or Colin Powell that day.

but he would have chased a 17-year old Eminem/Marshall mathers. 

Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: bears on November 26, 2013, 09:15:50 AM
I took an educated guess to the circumstances based on the info available....we'll see what happens

and i'm guessing that if it so happens that it was a white guy you'll be completely convinced that "white people are bad"? 

that's the scary part. 

I know we're being hard on you right now but you have to understand that if I was saying about black people what you're saying about white people and people actually found out, my life would be ruined.  i'd lose all my clients and a lot of friends. 

there are no consequences for you talking about white people the way you do.  you're a total bigoted racist and because you're black no one says a god damn thing.  fucking ridiculous. 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Archer77 on November 26, 2013, 09:20:26 AM
and i'm guessing that if it so happens that it was a white guy you'll be completely convinced that "white people are bad"? 

that's the scary part. 

I know we're being hard on you right now but you have to understand that if I was saying about black people what you're saying about white people and people actually found out, my life would be ruined.  i'd lose all my clients and a lot of friends. 

there are no consequences for you talking about white people the way you do.  you're a total bigoted racist and because you're black no one says a god damn thing.  fucking ridiculous. 

Isn't Vince's statement an example of racial profiling? 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: bears on November 26, 2013, 09:29:01 AM
Isn't Vince's statement an example of racial profiling? 

no.  it's worse. 

racial profiling is a cop seeing a black guy or a Mexican guy and stopping them because he thinks they look suspicious based upon his own preconceived notions about blacks and Mexicans.

Vince doesn't even see anybody.  he finds a dead black guy and simply figures that a white guy did it.  you know.  cuz black guys never kill other black guys.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 26, 2013, 09:43:34 AM
When blacks start reacting the same to the fellow blacks and others they kill in disportionate numbers  - maybe then I will give a crap.  Until then - who gives a shit? 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 26, 2013, 10:04:01 AM
When blacks start reacting the same to the fellow blacks and others they kill in disportionate numbers  - maybe then I will give a crap.  Until then - who gives a shit? 

lol shut up...you sound like an idiot.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 26, 2013, 10:04:12 AM
I took an educated guess to the circumstances based on the info available....we'll see what happens

What available info made you think this was similar to Martin/Zimmerman?
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 26, 2013, 10:05:07 AM
lol shut up...you sound like an idiot.

LMFAO - says the fool hundreds of thousands in debt still supporting obamacare. 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 26, 2013, 10:05:48 AM
LMFAO - says the fool hundreds of thousands in debt still supporting obamacare. 
lol...you sure do know a lot dont you


LANDSLIDE COMING!
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 26, 2013, 10:07:17 AM
lol...you sure do know a lot dont you


LANDSLIDE COMING!

Next Trayvon?  Go on any street corner in any ghetto w thugs w pants around their asses, gold teeth, hoodies, attitude problems, etx.    There are millions of Trayvons out there. 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: bears on November 26, 2013, 12:20:19 PM
What available info made you think this was similar to Martin/Zimmerman?

a black guy died. 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 26, 2013, 12:21:09 PM
a black guy died. 

That's probably it.   :-\
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Archer77 on November 26, 2013, 08:59:12 PM
no.  it's worse.  

racial profiling is a cop seeing a black guy or a Mexican guy and stopping them because he thinks they look suspicious based upon his own preconceived notions about blacks and Mexicans.

Vince doesn't even see anybody.  he finds a dead black guy and simply figures that a white guy did it.  you know.  cuz black guys never kill other black guys.

Vince has a preconception of the race of a perpetrator and that is exactly what racial profiling is.  It's worse in so much as it's not based at all on logic and is purely prejudicial. All data would indicate the murder would be most likely be black.  But that doesn't mean it's a guarantee, only that it's very very likely.

At least in a place like New York City, where over 85% of crime is committed by blacks, it's understandable to theorize, although you can never be certain and should not limit judgement, the perpetrator of the crime is black because the odds indicate that probability is again, highly likely.  The odds of a particular perp to be black iincrease and decrease depending on the crime.  
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 27, 2013, 12:44:43 AM
What available info made you think this was similar to Martin/Zimmerman?

The police officials think its racially motivated....they likely know something we don't
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Fury on November 27, 2013, 05:05:27 AM
lol shut up...you sound like an idiot.

What did he say that's wrong? 95% of black murders are committed by other blacks yet the only time they actually care is when the murder falls into the 5%. It's a sad joke.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Thick Nick on November 27, 2013, 05:30:47 AM

Never mention Sharpton again...I don't like him and I definitely don't like Jesse Jackson after I met the guy while working in corrections. 

I'm basically saying that some moron saw a black guy "who didn't belong" and decided to kill him despite the fact that he's in a USPS uniform and driving around in a USPS truck.

Did it even say that the shooter is white?
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: bears on November 27, 2013, 07:32:36 AM
What did he say that's wrong? 95% of black murders are committed by other blacks yet the only time they actually care is when the murder falls into the 5%. It's a sad joke.

that's not a statistic that Vince wants to hear right now.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2013, 08:42:54 AM
What did he say that's wrong? 95% of black murders are committed by other blacks yet the only time they actually care is when the murder falls into the 5%. It's a sad joke.


how can you measure the level of care?
Thats what i was getting at. There is black on black crime and we do care.... but it doesnt get the media exposure like a trayvon martin case because of the circumstances. And you can say "well the liberal media put them on TV and news papers" and id reply "blacks dont run the liberal media.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Archer77 on November 27, 2013, 08:54:59 AM
I don't agree.  There is a concerted effort to exaggerate the level of white on black crime.  Much like the right uses religion, guns and abortion to rile up their base, the left and in particular those in the black community, exploit issues of race. 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2013, 09:01:16 AM
There is a concerted effort to exaggerate the level of white on black crime.  

By whom?
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Archer77 on November 27, 2013, 09:03:39 AM
By whom?

Black community leaders and like minded liberals in the media. 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 27, 2013, 09:11:24 AM
By whom?

LMFAO!!!!!

Are you kidding? 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 27, 2013, 09:12:21 AM
The police officials think its racially motivated....they likely know something we don't

From the story you posted:  "Officials said detectives are working to identify the suspect or suspects and a motive in this case."
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2013, 09:15:54 AM
Black community leaders and like minded liberals in the media. 

With in the community there is a spotlight. There are local community leaders that call for an end to the violence within their own community.  But it doesn't reach national because blacks don't own national news papers and news stations and blacks dont control national coverage.

And what would national outrage do for the problem? At what end?

These idiots commit murders, get arrested, and then go to jail

Different circumstances from the trayvon martin thing
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2013, 09:18:38 AM
LMFAO!!!!!

Are you kidding? 
Check this out little man...Youre going to either join in this discussion like an adult as you can see the tone its taken. Or your can sit your ass on the sideline. But your little punk ass childish remarks have no place.

Now.. do you want to participate and offer a fact  based point of view. OR are you going to continue with your horseshit all caps bullshit acronyms?
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Archer77 on November 27, 2013, 09:21:37 AM
With in the community there is a spotlight. There are local community leaders that call for an end to the violence within their own community.  But it doesn't reach national because blacks don't own national news papers and news stations and blacks dont control national coverage.

And what would national outrage do for the problem? At what end?

These idiots commit murders, get arrested, and then go to jail

Different circumstances from the trayvon martin thing



The difference is that the trayvon Martin thing isn't a real problem and black and black, and black on white for that matter, is.   Blacks don't have to own the media to understand how to effectively manipulate and exploit it.   When there are ideologically sympathetic individuals in the media, it makes the manipulation all the easier.   It's as simple as understanding how guilt and shame work and how best to use them to gain the desired effect.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 27, 2013, 09:22:48 AM
With in the community there is a spotlight. There are local community leaders that call for an end to the violence within their own community.  But it doesn't reach national because blacks don't own national news papers and news stations and blacks dont control national coverage.

And what would national outrage do for the problem? At what end?

These idiots commit murders, get arrested, and then go to jail

Different circumstances from the trayvon martin thing


What national black leaders are highlighting black-on-black crime?  The NAACP?  Sharpton?  The CBC?  

I read an article written by a black dude with the Wall Street Journal around the time of the Zimmerman verdict and he talked about black-on-black murder.  Something like 90+ percent of blacks are killed by other blacks.  Staggering.  I had no idea it was that bad.  

But during the Zimmerman trial the "national" discussion was how racist white dudes were posing a threat to young black boys.  Absolutely untrue when you look at the numbers.  It's a problem.  And one that is not being discussed enough.  
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2013, 09:32:09 AM
What national black leaders are highlighting black-on-black crime?  The NAACP?  Sharpton?  The CBC?  

I read an article written by a black dude with the Wall Street Journal around the time of the Zimmerman verdict and he talked about black-on-black murder.  Something like 90+ percent of blacks are killed by other blacks.  Staggering.  I had no idea it was that bad.  

But during the Zimmerman trial the "national" discussion was how racist white dudes were posing a threat to young black boys.  Absolutely untrue when you look at the numbers.  It's a problem.  And one that is not being discussed enough.  

The premise was "blacks care about trayvon martin but dont care about the black on black crime going on everyday"
And thats wrong. Its a problem, a huge problem. I coached football at Locke high (watts) Roosevelt high (east LA) and Washington high (South central)

ive delt with the lockdowns during practice because of a shooting down the street or across campus. And what happens is the police come, and in a couple of days, the shooter goes to jail. The killing needs to be addressed and it is. But where does it fit nationally?
The leaders of that community do what they can to stem the problem.

Now for your question about Sharpton and CNBC etc...Those arent our leaders just as Rush, Beck and Palin arent yours. They dont go to South central so to call them our leaders and use them as the measuring stick of that community's "outrage" is an inaccurate measurement.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2013, 09:33:28 AM

The difference is that the trayvon Martin thing isn't a real problem and black and black, and black on white for that matter, is.   Blacks don't have to own the media to understand how to effectively manipulate and exploit it.   When there are ideologically sympathetic individuals in the media, it makes the manipulation all the easier.   It's as simple as understanding how guilt and shame work and how best to use them to gain the desired effect.

What does national outrage do?

It gets ratings but it doesnt help a local problem
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 27, 2013, 09:37:16 AM
The premise was "blacks care about trayvon martin but dont care about the black on black crime going on everyday"
And thats wrong. Its a problem, a huge problem. I coached football at Locke high (watts) Roosevelt high (east LA) and Washington high (South central)

ive delt with the lockdowns during practice because of a shooting down the street or across campus. And what happens is the police come, and in a couple of days, the shooter goes to jail. The killing needs to be addressed and it is. But where does it fit nationally?
The leaders of that community do what they can to stem the problem.

Now for your question about Sharpton and CNBC etc...Those arent our leaders just as Rush, Beck and Palin arent yours. They dont go to South central so to call them our leaders and use them as the measuring stick of that community's "outrage" is an inaccurate measurement.

Fair enough.  Then what black leaders (however you define them) are talking about black-on-black crime? 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Archer77 on November 27, 2013, 09:38:15 AM
What does national outrage do?

It gets ratings but it doesnt help a local problem

It's takes attention off of the dysfunction within their communities and places it back onto the old familiar white bogeyman.  It's a diversionary tactic.  What was the zim/Martin national outrage suppose to accomplish?  It's not even a real problem.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2013, 09:44:15 AM
It's takes attention off of the dysfunction within their communities and places it back onto the old familiar white bogeyman.  It's a diversionary tactic.  What was the zim/Martin national outrage suppose to accomplish?  It's not even a real problem.

Who orchestrated the outrage is what im asking. Fox news jumped on it, Msnbc did as well..etc...its a sensational story, Not unlike casey anthony or that other broad that shot her ex...its a sensational story. The blacks didnt meet up and say "hey lets pump this all over the news" they dont have that pull bro
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 27, 2013, 09:45:20 AM
Who orchestrated the outrage is what im asking. Fox news jumped on it, Msnbc did as well..etc...its a sensational story, Not unlike casey anthony or that other broad that shot her ex...its a sensational story. The blacks didnt meet up and say "hey lets pump this all over the news" they dont have that pull bro

No - Rev. Al was the first to rev up the "outrage Machine"
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2013, 09:48:50 AM
Fair enough.  Then what black leaders (however you define them) are talking about black-on-black crime? 

The ones in those communities address those communities. And MSNBC or Fox arent covering it, and it wouldnt do anything anyway
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Archer77 on November 27, 2013, 09:51:30 AM
Who orchestrated the outrage is what im asking. Fox news jumped on it, Msnbc did as well..etc...its a sensational story, Not unlike casey anthony or that other broad that shot her ex...its a sensational story. The blacks didnt meet up and say "hey lets pump this all over the news" they dont have that pull bro

Those who consider themselves representatives of the black community orchestrated the outrage and the rest fell in  lock-step behind them.  It's not even a sensational case on its own merits, it only became sensational when the narrative of race was played to the hilt. I follow crime closely, and the trayvon Martin case wasn't even the most interesting case to happened that week and most certainly not one that deserved public attention for well over a year.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2013, 09:52:18 AM
Fair enough.  Then what black leaders (however you define them) are talking about black-on-black crime? 

EXCLUSIVE: Chicago OG Noonie Ward Weighs In On Common, Kanye, Violence In Chicago; Calls On Rappers To Act

http://www.bandmine.com/news/101/exclusive_chicago_og_noonie_ward_weighs_in_on_common_kanye_violence_in_chicago_calls_on_rappers_to_act/610811
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2013, 09:56:36 AM
Those who consider themselves representatives of the black community orchestrated the outrage and the rest fell in  lock-step behind them.  It's not even a sensational case on its own merits, it only became sensational when the narrative of race was played to the hilt. I follow crime closely, and the trayvon Martin case wasn't even the most interesting case to happened that week and most certainly not one that deserved public attention for well over a year.

Ok...i dont agree with your assertion about the case at all..
that story had so many aspects that made it a must watch. The history of violence of the killer and his father being a judge. The fact that he didnt go to jail...its a lot that case offered the american public to think about

And news flash...those "self appointed" reps of the black are only that to the national media....not to the people of those communities. Our last black leader was shot
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 27, 2013, 10:01:11 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Chicago OG Noonie Ward Weighs In On Common, Kanye, Violence In Chicago; Calls On Rappers To Act

http://www.bandmine.com/news/101/exclusive_chicago_og_noonie_ward_weighs_in_on_common_kanye_violence_in_chicago_calls_on_rappers_to_act/610811

Are you citing entertainers as examples of leaders talking about this problem? 

If so, I can give you links to a lot more entertainers who used Zimmerman/Martin as an example of how racist white dudes are a threat to young black dudes.  Spike Lee being arguably the worst for essentially trying to incite people to commit acts of violence.   
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Thick Nick on November 27, 2013, 10:03:06 AM
The police officials think its racially motivated....they likely know something we don't

Hey Vince. You know Zimmerman isn't white right?
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2013, 10:08:09 AM
Are you citing entertainers as examples of leaders talking about this problem? 

If so, I can give you links to a lot more entertainers who used Zimmerman/Martin as an example of how racist white dudes are a threat to young black dudes.  Spike Lee being arguably the worst for essentially trying to incite people to commit acts of violence.   

no i didnt...i pointed out that community's Leader calling on entertainers...


did you read it correct?
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Archer77 on November 27, 2013, 10:08:25 AM
Ok...i dont agree with your assertion about the case at all..
that story had so many aspects that made it a must watch. The history of violence of the killer and his father being a judge. The fact that he didnt go to jail...its a lot that case offered the american public to think about

And news flash...those "self appointed" reps of the black are only that to the national media....not to the people of those communities. Our last black leader was shot

Polls indicated that the racism narrative foster by these "leaders" was consistent with the opinions of those they claim to represent.  The entire case was presented as a white male killing an innocent black child.  Marchers carried pictures of Emmet Til and invoked his death in speeches and not one person I am aware of suggested this may be inappropriate or just plain wrong.

As for the interest in this case, none of the things you mentioned even came to light until after black community leaders pressured authorities to pursue charges against Zim based entirely on the premise of racial injustice.  These leaders of the community certainly weren't aware of zimmermans backstory.
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Archer77 on November 27, 2013, 10:13:43 AM
This caseshould have been strictly about trying to determine the events of the night in question. All this other bullshit was not the least bit helpful. 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 27, 2013, 10:18:34 AM
no i didnt...i pointed out that community's Leader calling on entertainers...


did you read it correct?

I see.  The former gang member's comments.  Got it. 

I thought you were lumping his comments in with Common and Kanye, because they were working together. 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2013, 10:22:11 AM
I see.  The former gang member's comments.  Got it. 

I thought you were lumping his comments in with Common and Kanye, because they were working together. 

yeah the former gang member
 ::)
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 27, 2013, 10:24:03 AM
yeah the former gang member
 ::)

Was not dissing him.  I respect anyone who turns their life around. 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Option D on November 27, 2013, 10:27:31 AM
Was not dissing him.  I respect anyone who turns their life around. 

oh ok... i thought it was a jab. My bad
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: Dos Equis on November 27, 2013, 10:30:21 AM
oh ok... i thought it was a jab. My bad

No worries.  Probably came out wrong.  Should have mentioned his title too. 
Title: Re: The Next Trayvon???....Tyson Jerome Barnette
Post by: tonymctones on November 27, 2013, 02:44:14 PM
Who orchestrated the outrage is what im asking. Fox news jumped on it, Msnbc did as well..etc...its a sensational story, Not unlike casey anthony or that other broad that shot her ex...its a sensational story. The blacks didnt meet up and say "hey lets pump this all over the news" they dont have that pull bro
sensational story???

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

two idiots come together and one gets shot...Whats so fucking sensational outside of their race for the media?