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Title: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 29, 2013, 08:40:12 AM
 More liberal indoctrination.

Yeah...I want to send kid my here. lol


Want more Obama?

In The Washington Post, Jonathan Zimmerman, a history professor from NYU, has written an article claiming that all of America’s problems would be soloved–GET THIS–if only we would allow Barack Obama to run for a third term!

He wants to amend the Constitution and abolish presidential term limits.

Zimmerman writes that Obama–whose approval rating is at an all time low of 37%–would be much more effective at governing if he could stand for re-election in 2016 because then he’d be less likely to “ignore” the will of the American people. “It’s time to put that power back where it belongs,” he writes. “Barack Obama should be allowed to stand for re election just as citizens should be allowed to vote for — or against — him. Anything less diminishes our leaders and ourselves.”

We don’t know whether to shake our head in disbelief, or burst out laughing.

This professor admits that only a third of Americans approve of the job Obama is doing in office, yet he wants us to believe that we’d be better off if he were able to be president until the year 2020–and beyond?

That’s some strange logic.

Just one week ago, the very same newspaper ran a story predicting that if the 2012 election were held now, Mitt Romney would win the White House, not Obama.

Right now, this country has a serious case of voter’s remorse. Therefore the timing for this call for a potential third Obama term couldn’t be worse.

If we were going to go to the trouble of amending the Constitution, I think more Americans would be interested in adding the power to recall this president than would be interested in giving him a third term.

Nathan Harden is editor of The College Fix and author of the book SEX & GOD AT YALE: Porn, Political Correctness, and a Good Education Gone Bad.

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Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2013, 09:53:28 AM
another moron named zimmerman, sheesh
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 29, 2013, 11:21:48 AM
another moron named zimmerman, sheesh


hahahahahhaaha
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: 24KT on November 29, 2013, 12:03:06 PM
another moron named zimmerman, sheesh

 ;D

It's not like the abolition of term limits would be anything new.
GWB is already on his  4th term, ...a 5th is no precedent.
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 29, 2013, 12:40:55 PM
Fuck no!   
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2013, 01:07:20 PM
Fuck no!   

The fcked up thing about it is that he would probably win.  He has the ground game, the money, the advantages that come with being incumbent.  His numbers were worse than CARTER and he WON BIG against a guy with bottomless pockets who had been essentially running for 6 straight years.

Obama would certainly beat an obese christie or an inexperienced Rubio... just as Bush would have squeaked out a win in 2008, Clinton would have won in a landslide in 2000.
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: Straw Man on November 29, 2013, 01:11:53 PM
The fcked up thing about it is that he would probably win.  He has the ground game, the money, the advantages that come with being incumbent.  His numbers were worse than CARTER and he WON BIG against a guy with bottomless pockets who had been essentially running for 6 straight years.

Obama would certainly beat an obese christie or an inexperienced Rubio... just as Bush would have squeaked out a win in 2008, Clinton would have won in a landslide in 2000.

no way Bush would have won in 2008 against ANY Dem (certainly not Hillary or Obama)

Bush fucking checked out for the last 6 months of his presidency and had a deer in the headlights look as the financial markets were crashing and UE was sky rocketing
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: Dos Equis on November 29, 2013, 02:20:29 PM
We cannot afford a third term.  Heck we couldn't afford a second term.  Whomever takes over in 2017 will have incredible mess to clean up. 
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: blacken700 on November 29, 2013, 02:25:22 PM
We cannot afford a third term.  Heck we couldn't afford a second term.  Whomever takes over in 2017 will have incredible mess to clean up. 

just like the mess in 2009
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: Dos Equis on November 29, 2013, 02:38:27 PM
just like the mess in 2009

Obama inherited a mess and made it worse. 
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: 24KT on November 29, 2013, 02:50:44 PM
Obama inherited a mess and made it worse. 

That's what he was put in office to do. The bankers knew what they were doing.
They're looting the crap out of what's left before everything implodes under it's own weight.
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: Dos Equis on November 29, 2013, 02:54:12 PM
That's what he was put in office to do. The bankers knew what they were doing.
They're looting the crap out of what's left before everything implodes under it's own weight.

Yes yes.  America is doomed.  The country will collapse.  Blah blah blah. 
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: Straw Man on November 29, 2013, 03:00:51 PM
Obama inherited a mess and made it worse. 

yeah, what part did he make worse?

stock market, real estate values, unemployment rate are all improved

government spending and the size of government are both down

healthcare is still a big question mark but at least you can't lose your policy for pre-existing conditions and there is no annual or lifetime limits in coverage provided.
The roll out sucked and the cancellations suck but it could wind up being better (perhaps much better) by the end of his term
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: 24KT on November 29, 2013, 04:16:23 PM
yeah, what part did he make worse?

stock market, real estate values, unemployment rate are all improved

government spending and the size of government are both down

healthcare is still a big question mark but at least you can't lose your policy for pre-existing conditions and there is no annual or lifetime limits in coverage provided.
The roll out sucked and the cancellations suck but it could wind up being better (perhaps much better) by the end of his term

How many billions per month is being spent on toxic debt with no end in sight,
devaluing the currency hand over fist, ...and you think gov spending is down?  :o
C'mon Straw, where do you think that money came from?
...and who do you think is responsible for paying it back, ...as well as how?

Just because it's a private organization writing the check makes no difference...
...not when the gov has pledged Americans' wealth, labour & purchasing power to repaying those sums.
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: 24KT on November 29, 2013, 04:21:05 PM
Yes yes.  America is doomed.  The country will collapse.  Blah blah blah. 

What's with the will? It already has, ...you just haven't recognized it yet.
The government has, ...that's why they're arming every gov office to the tits.
They're preparing for when the majority of the public finally realizes their country is gone.
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: Dos Equis on November 29, 2013, 05:02:33 PM
What's with the will? It already has, ...you just haven't recognized it yet.
The government has, ...that's why they're arming every gov office to the tits.
They're preparing for when the majority of the public finally realizes their country is gone.

Oh no.  The United States has collapsed.  Every government office is being armed.  Does that include the agencies dealing with kids and the elderly?  You know how violent babies and nursing home residents can get. 

How is it you're the only one who knows this, and you don't even live in this country?  You have inside scoops with the people responsible for the already collapsed greatest country on planet earth?   
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: avxo on November 29, 2013, 07:13:28 PM
More liberal indoctrination.

Yeah...I want to send kid my here. lol


Want more Obama?

In The Washington Post, Jonathan Zimmerman, a history professor from NYU, has written an article claiming that all of America’s problems would be soloved–GET THIS–if only we would allow Barack Obama to run for a third term!

He wants to amend the Constitution and abolish presidential term limits.

Zimmerman writes that Obama–whose approval rating is at an all time low of 37%–would be much more effective at governing if he could stand for re-election in 2016 because then he’d be less likely to “ignore” the will of the American people. “It’s time to put that power back where it belongs,” he writes. “Barack Obama should be allowed to stand for re election just as citizens should be allowed to vote for — or against — him. Anything less diminishes our leaders and ourselves.”

We don’t know whether to shake our head in disbelief, or burst out laughing.

This professor admits that only a third of Americans approve of the job Obama is doing in office, yet he wants us to believe that we’d be better off if he were able to be president until the year 2020–and beyond?

That’s some strange logic.

Just one week ago, the very same newspaper ran a story predicting that if the 2012 election were held now, Mitt Romney would win the White House, not Obama.

Right now, this country has a serious case of voter’s remorse. Therefore the timing for this call for a potential third Obama term couldn’t be worse.

If we were going to go to the trouble of amending the Constitution, I think more Americans would be interested in adding the power to recall this president than would be interested in giving him a third term.

Nathan Harden is editor of The College Fix and author of the book SEX & GOD AT YALE: Porn, Political Correctness, and a Good Education Gone Bad.

Like The College Fix on Facebook. / Follow Nathan on Twitter @NathanHarden

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/15481/

We all know your feelings on Obama, so we know you are already foaming at the mouth. I'm not sure what your reaction would be if someone wrote this article about a President that you approved of, but let's not go down that road either. Because I'm curious about something else - and this is a very interesting topic:

Arguments about the "goodness" of a specific President aside, what is your view of the 22nd Amendment? Do you support it on principle? Or do you think it should be repealed, again on principle? In other words, do you believe that the American people should not have the option of electing someone to the Office of the President more than twice? Or do you believe that the American people should be able to have that option available to them? Can you tell us why you support the position you support?

This is a question not just to Coach, but to others as well. I'm interested in reading your answers.
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 29, 2013, 08:40:15 PM
We all know your feelings on Obama, so we know you are already foaming at the mouth. I'm not sure what your reaction would be if someone wrote this article about a President that you approved of, but let's not go down that road either. Because I'm curious about something else - and this is a very interesting topic:

Arguments about the "goodness" of a specific President aside, what is your view of the 22nd Amendment? Do you support it on principle? Or do you think it should be repealed, again on principle? In other words, do you believe that the American people should not have the option of electing someone to the Office of the President more than twice? Or do you believe that the American people should be able to have that option available to them? Can you tell us why you support the position you support?

This is a question not just to Coach, but to others as well. I'm interested in reading your answers.

My closet liberal stalker is back. lol
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: avxo on November 29, 2013, 09:05:17 PM
My closet liberal stalker is back. lol

Closet liberal? There you go again. Remember when you made this accusation last time and I flogged you so badly you apologized to me in public and in a private message? Frankly, I think that it's immediately and blatantly obvious that I'm as far removed from being a liberal as you are from being intelligent.

Posting silly comments, calling me a closet liberal and a stalker only highlights just how fucking stupid you are. Which is why nobody here is surprised that you avoid the opportunity to answer a serious and interesting question.

Joe, it's a pity and a disgrace that you get to vote. You are an uneducated and unthinking simpleton that uncritically spouts out what others have pre-chewed and pre-digested for you.   
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 29, 2013, 09:32:23 PM
Closet liberal? There you go again. Remember when you made this accusation last time and I flogged you so badly you apologized to me in public and in a private message? Frankly, I think that it's immediately and blatantly obvious that I'm as far removed from being a liberal as you are from being intelligent.

Posting silly comments, calling me a closet liberal and a stalker only highlights just how fucking stupid you are. Which is why nobody here is surprised that you avoid the opportunity to answer a serious and interesting question.

Joe, it's a pity and a disgrace that you get to vote. You are an uneducated and unthinking simpleton that uncritically spouts out what others have pre-chewed and pre-digested for you.   

lol.....k.
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: avxo on November 29, 2013, 09:42:15 PM
lol.....k.

Such an eloquent and brutally rational post. You have answered all my questions, completely obliterated my position and converted me to your side. You, Sir, are a true orator; you have audiences, far and wide, hanging from your silver tongue. I salute you!

::)

By the way, Joe, it might be instructive for you to read the original article that the post you copy-pasted refers to. It's available at http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/end-presidential-term-limits/2013/11/28/50876456-561e-11e3-ba82-16ed03681809_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/end-presidential-term-limits/2013/11/28/50876456-561e-11e3-ba82-16ed03681809_story.html). I'm curious to know whether you think the article you posted is an accurate analysis of Professor Zimmerman's op-ed, and if you can tell us where the article says the things that like "[Zimmerman] has written an article claiming that all of America’s problems would be soloved–GET THIS–if only we would allow Barack Obama to run for a third term!"

Oh, I know you don't bother with this sort of thing. You, by your own admission (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=507179.msg7158614#msg7158614), "see it" and then "post it". You don't bother to check whether the stuff you "see" is accurate, or whether the stuff you "post" is truthful. You just consume whatever it is that you're spoon-fed and, then, through some twisted mental alimentary process, defecate posts full of disinformation, inaccuracies, conspiracy theories and disjointed rants.

As I said, it's disconcerting to know that you - an uneducated, unthinking blindly partisand simpleton - get to vote, because your vote is nothing but a vote by proxy by your taskmasters. What you vote for doesn't matter. Even if you cast every vote in exactly the same way as I would cast it, the above analysis wouldn't change. Because, ultimately, I don't object to your particular vote. I object for many reasons:

I object to the fact that you don't think.
I object because you're nothing but a poor quality mouthpiece that spits out incomprehensible noise.
I object because you fancy yourself fit to offer political opinions on subjects you know nothing about.
I object because you are using every muscle except the one that really counts while, at the same time, trying to pass yourself off as a deep thinker and paint yourself as a prophet who warned a people that just wouldn't listen.
I object because you believe you and your ilk have a monopoly on truth. I object because when confronted with logic you respond with a stream of logical fallacies.

So yeah... make silly comments Joe. Keep pulling back that sheet of skin that's your face - a sheet stretched thin over the wasteland that is your mind - and showing everyone here just the kind of pathetic idiot you really are.
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: avxo on November 29, 2013, 11:24:25 PM
What's with the will? It already has, ...you just haven't recognized it yet.

::)

The government has, ...that's why they're arming every gov office to the tits.
They're preparing for when the majority of the public finally realizes their country is gone.

Alas, we have failed to ignore your prescient warnings or to heed your sage advice. Ohh, if only we were all as smart as you and we had read the signs of the times... or if we had, at least, listened. But hey, not all is lost: at least, there's still Canada!
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: 24KT on November 30, 2013, 06:11:58 AM
::)

Alas, we have failed to ignore your prescient warnings or to heed your sage advice. Ohh, if only we were all as smart as you and we had read the signs of the times... or if we had, at least, listened. But hey, not all is lost: at least, there's still Canada!

Finally, someone gets it!  ;D

LOL. Oh you adorable, loveable little bugger. What the heck am I going to do with you?  :D

Sometimes, I sooo want to hate you, ...but it's hard to hate someone who makes you laugh so unexpectedly.
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 30, 2013, 08:15:47 AM
Potus should get 1 term only.
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: avxo on November 30, 2013, 08:28:05 AM
Potus should get 1 term only.

Why?
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: 24KT on November 30, 2013, 08:31:04 AM
Potus should get 1 term only.

The problem with that is its hardly enough time to get anything done.

More than likely what would occur under a policy of 1 term only, is that that term would be spent pandering to private enterprises, and courting post presidential positions via national policy. If you think things are bad now, try 1 term only presidencies.
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: whork on November 30, 2013, 09:59:11 AM
Obama inherited a mess and made it worse. 


Its hard to make it worse unless the market crashed once more like in 2008.

Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: whork on November 30, 2013, 10:00:06 AM
yeah, what part did he make worse?

stock market, real estate values, unemployment rate are all improved

government spending and the size of government are both down

healthcare is still a big question mark but at least you can't lose your policy for pre-existing conditions and there is no annual or lifetime limits in coverage provided.
The roll out sucked and the cancellations suck but it could wind up being better (perhaps much better) by the end of his term



He hasnt fixed anything

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/jun/01/scorecard-economy-obama/
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: whork on November 30, 2013, 10:02:20 AM
My closet liberal stalker is back. lol


Axvo is no Liberal more of a Libertarian.

Get your facts straight Coach.

Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: 24KT on November 30, 2013, 03:30:45 PM

Its hard to make it worse unless the market crashed once more like in 2008.


Dude, that is sooooo coming. Mark my words. Hasn't happened yet, ...but it will.  :o
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: Kazan on December 01, 2013, 08:18:47 AM
Obama inherited a mess and made it worse. 

Really? Seems to me he was the Jr. Senator from Illinois. Please explain how he inherited anything. If he didn't know what he was getting into, he is either a retard or lying.
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: 2Thick on December 01, 2013, 02:18:51 PM
Really? Seems to me he was the Jr. Senator from Illinois. Please explain how he inherited anything. If he didn't know what he was getting into, he is either a retard or lying.

It's all Bush's fault.
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: Dos Equis on December 02, 2013, 09:04:44 AM

Its hard to make it worse unless the market crashed once more like in 2008.



Except we're $17 trillion in debt, so yes, he made it much worse. 
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: Dos Equis on December 02, 2013, 09:07:04 AM
Dude, that is sooooo coming. Mark my words. Hasn't happened yet, ...but it will.  :o

 ::)  You suck at predictions.  Leave the prognostication to El Profeta.  He's the man. 
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: Dos Equis on December 02, 2013, 09:08:38 AM
Really? Seems to me he was the Jr. Senator from Illinois. Please explain how he inherited anything. If he didn't know what he was getting into, he is either a retard or lying.

He inherited the financial meltdown that happened just before he took office.  Turned that meltdown into a $17 trillion debt. 
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: 24KT on December 02, 2013, 10:07:33 AM
::)  You suck at predictions.  Leave the prognostication to El Profeta.  He's the man. 

Actually my track record has been pretty good.

Remember when I told you the Patriot Act was more about targeting Americans than any supposed terrorists?

Remember when I told you the USA was well on the road to Fascism?

Remember when I told you the price of fuel was going to soar?

Remember when I told you Americans were losing their rights?

Remember when I told you Cyprus bail ins weren't a one off, and it would be rolled out across the board?

...and you just laughed.

For anyone who's been paying attention, and keeping track, my track record has been pretty darned good!
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: Dos Equis on December 02, 2013, 10:48:55 AM
Actually my track record has been pretty good.

Remember when I told you the Patriot Act was more about targeting Americans than any supposed terrorists?

Remember when I told you the USA was well on the road to Fascism?

Remember when I told you the price of fuel was going to soar?

Remember when I told you Americans were losing their rights?

Remember when I told you Cyprus bail ins weren't a one off, and it would be rolled out across the board?

...and you just laughed.

For anyone who's been paying attention, and keeping track, my track record has been pretty darned good!

No to all. 

What I remember is you saying America was not only on the road to ruin, but had already fallen.  But we Americans just don't know it yet. 

I do find it amazing that you know so much about what is going on in this country that no one else seems to know.  Lots of getbig.com exclusives.   

As for me, my money is on El Profeta. 
Title: Re: Professor: Obama Should Be Allowed to Run for a Third Term
Post by: avxo on December 02, 2013, 03:27:18 PM
Actually my track record has been pretty good.

Remember when I told you the Patriot Act was more about targeting Americans than any supposed terrorists?

Remember when I told you the USA was well on the road to Fascism?

Remember when I told you the price of fuel was going to soar?

Remember when I told you Americans were losing their rights?

Remember when I told you Cyprus bail ins weren't a one off, and it would be rolled out across the board?

...and you just laughed.

For anyone who's been paying attention, and keeping track, my track record has been pretty darned good!

Have you been sniffing glue or licking Karatbars or something? Or are you really that delusional?