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Read this
http://nypost.com/2013/12/15/inside-the-saudi-911-coverup/
Inside the Saudi 9/11 coverup
By Paul Sperry
December 15, 2013 | 5:13am
After the 9/11 attacks, the public was told al Qaeda acted alone, with no state sponsors.
But the White House never let it see an entire section of Congress’ investigative report on 9/11 dealing with “specific sources of foreign support” for the 19 hijackers, 15 of whom were Saudi nationals.
It was kept secret and remains so today.
President Bush inexplicably censored 28 full pages of the 800-page report. Text isn’t just blacked-out here and there in this critical-yet-missing middle section. The pages are completely blank, except for dotted lines where an estimated 7,200 words once stood (this story by comparison is about 1,000 words).
A pair of lawmakers who recently read the redacted portion say they are “absolutely shocked” at the level of foreign state involvement in the attacks.
Reps. Walter Jones (R-NC) and Stephen Lynch (D-Mass.) can’t reveal the nation identified by it without violating federal law. So they’ve proposed Congress pass a resolution asking President Obama to declassify the entire 2002 report, “Joint Inquiry Into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001.”
Some information already has leaked from the classified section, which is based on both CIA and FBI documents, and it points back to Saudi Arabia, a presumed ally.
The Saudis deny any role in 9/11, but the CIA in one memo reportedly found “incontrovertible evidence” that Saudi government officials — not just wealthy Saudi hardliners, but high-level diplomats and intelligence officers employed by the kingdom — helped the hijackers both financially and logistically. The intelligence files cited in the report directly implicate the Saudi embassy in Washington and consulate in Los Angeles in the attacks, making 9/11 not just an act of terrorism, but an act of war.
The findings, if confirmed, would back up open-source reporting showing the hijackers had, at a minimum, ties to several Saudi officials and agents while they were preparing for their attacks inside the United States. In fact, they got help from Saudi VIPs from coast to coast:
LOS ANGELES: Saudi consulate official Fahad al-Thumairy allegedly arranged for an advance team to receive two of the Saudi hijackers — Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi — as they arrived at LAX in 2000. One of the advance men, Omar al-Bayoumi, a suspected Saudi intelligence agent, left the LA consulate and met the hijackers at a local restaurant. (Bayoumi left the United States two months before the attacks, while Thumairy was deported back to Saudi Arabia after 9/11.)
SAN DIEGO: Bayoumi and another suspected Saudi agent, Osama Bassnan, set up essentially a forward operating base in San Diego for the hijackers after leaving LA. They were provided rooms, rent and phones, as well as private meetings with an American al Qaeda cleric who would later become notorious, Anwar al-Awlaki, at a Saudi-funded mosque he ran in a nearby suburb. They were also feted at a welcoming party. (Bassnan also fled the United States just before the attacks.)
WASHINGTON: Then-Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar and his wife sent checks totaling some $130,000 to Bassnan while he was handling the hijackers. Though the Bandars claim the checks were “welfare” for Bassnan’s supposedly ill wife, the money nonetheless made its way into the hijackers’ hands.
Other al Qaeda funding was traced back to Bandar and his embassy — so much so that by 2004 Riggs Bank of Washington had dropped the Saudis as a client.
The next year, as a number of embassy employees popped up in terror probes, Riyadh recalled Bandar.
“Our investigations contributed to the ambassador’s departure,” an investigator who worked with the Joint Terrorism Task Force in Washington told me, though Bandar says he left for “personal reasons.”
FALLS CHURCH, VA.: In 2001, Awlaki and the San Diego hijackers turned up together again — this time at the Dar al-Hijrah Islamic Center, a Pentagon-area mosque built with funds from the Saudi Embassy. Awlaki was recruited 3,000 miles away to head the mosque. As its imam, Awlaki helped the hijackers, who showed up at his doorstep as if on cue. He tasked a handler to help them acquire apartments and IDs before they attacked the Pentagon.
Awlaki worked closely with the Saudi Embassy. He lectured at a Saudi Islamic think tank in Merrifield, Va., chaired by Bandar. Saudi travel itinerary documents I’ve obtained show he also served as the official imam on Saudi Embassy-sponsored trips to Mecca and tours of Saudi holy sites.
Most suspiciously, though, Awlaki fled the United States on a Saudi jet about a year after 9/11.
As I first reported in my book, “Infiltration,” quoting from classified US documents, the Saudi-sponsored cleric was briefly detained at JFK before being released into the custody of a “Saudi representative.” A federal warrant for Awlaki’s arrest had mysteriously been withdrawn the previous day. A US drone killed Awlaki in Yemen in 2011.
HERNDON, VA.: On the eve of the attacks, top Saudi government official Saleh Hussayen checked into the same Marriott Residence Inn near Dulles Airport as three of the Saudi hijackers who targeted the Pentagon. Hussayen had left a nearby hotel to move into the hijackers’ hotel. Did he meet with them? The FBI never found out. They let him go after he “feigned a seizure,” one agent recalled. (Hussayen’s name doesn’t appear in the separate 9/11 Commission Report, which clears the Saudis.)
SARASOTA, FLA.: 9/11 ringleader Mohamed Atta and other hijackers visited a home owned by Esam Ghazzawi, a Saudi adviser to the nephew of King Fahd. FBI agents investigating the connection in 2002 found that visitor logs for the gated community and photos of license tags matched vehicles driven by the hijackers. Just two weeks before the 9/11 attacks, the Saudi luxury home was abandoned. Three cars, including a new Chrysler PT Cruiser, were left in the driveway. Inside, opulent furniture was untouched.
Democrat Bob Graham, the former Florida senator who chaired the Joint Inquiry, has asked the FBI for the Sarasota case files, but can’t get a single, even heavily redacted, page released. He says it’s a “coverup.”
Is the federal government protecting the Saudis? Case agents tell me they were repeatedly called off pursuing 9/11 leads back to the Saudi Embassy, which had curious sway over White House and FBI responses to the attacks.
Just days after Bush met with the Saudi ambassador in the White House, the FBI evacuated from the United States dozens of Saudi officials, as well as Osama bin Laden family members. Bandar made the request for escorts directly to FBI headquarters on Sept. 13, 2001 — just hours after he met with the president. The two old family friends shared cigars on the Truman Balcony while discussing the attacks.
Bill Doyle, who lost his son in the World Trade Center attacks and heads the Coalition of 9/11 Families, calls the suppression of Saudi evidence a “coverup beyond belief.” Last week, he sent out an e-mail to relatives urging them to phone their representatives in Congress to support the resolution and read for themselves the censored 28 pages.
Astonishing as that sounds, few lawmakers in fact have bothered to read the classified section of arguably the most important investigation in US history.
Granted, it’s not easy to do. It took a monthlong letter-writing campaign by Jones and Lynch to convince the House intelligence panel to give them access to the material.
But it’s critical they take the time to read it and pressure the White House to let all Americans read it. This isn’t water under the bridge. The information is still relevant today. Pursuing leads further, getting to the bottom of the foreign support, could help head off another 9/11.
As the frustrated Joint Inquiry authors warned, in an overlooked addendum to their heavily redacted 2002 report, “State-sponsored terrorism substantially increases the likelihood of successful and more lethal attacks within the United States.”
Their findings must be released, even if they forever change US-Saudi relations. If an oil-rich foreign power was capable of orchestrating simultaneous bulls-eye hits on our centers of commerce and defense a dozen years ago, it may be able to pull off similarly devastating attacks today.
Members of Congress reluctant to read the full report ought to remember that the 9/11 assault missed its fourth target: them.
Paul Sperry is a Hoover Institution media fellow and author of “Infiltration” and “Muslim Mafia.”
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Read this today. I hope the story gets some traction.
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The man the Bush family refers to as Bandar Bush. ;D
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/15/congressmen-move-to-declassify-key-part-of-911-report-that-they-say-could-indicate-hijackers-had-outside-help/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=ShareButtons
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So why did we attack Iraq again? ???
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So why did we attack Iraq again? ???
Because the brutal and inhumane decades long sanctions did not work to topple Hussein. Despite the deaths of millions of innocent children, Hussein was still in charge, had survived the worst of it, and his country was still intact and would only get stronger since sanctions had come to an end. In order to quell both Israeli & Saudi fears that a secular Iraq could gain strength and influence across the Middle East, and to ensure Iraqi oil sales continued to occur in US Dollars thereby perpetuating the need for a currency nobody wants, Americans were fooled into supporting an illegal war of aggression in order to enrich war profiteers like Halliburton and their rich friends in the military industrial complex. Plus the govt needed a few more guinea pigs for their bio-tech research.
If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything, and a good portion of the American people did just that. They got you to believe absurdities, and from there it was no great stretch to get you to commit atrocities, ...and now your treasury has been pillaged, your bravest killed and maimed, your economy in shambles, your attempt at Empire lost, ...and you and your progeny shackled with debt for generations to come.
Karma is a biyatch!!
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Because the brutal and inhumane decades long sanctions did not work to topple Hussein. Despite the deaths of millions of innocent children, Hussein was still in charge, had survived the worst of it, and his country was still intact and would only get stronger since sanctions had come to an end. In order to quell both Israeli & Saudi fears that a secular Iraq could gain strength and influence across the Middle East, and to ensure Iraqi oil sales continued to occur in US Dollars thereby perpetuating the need for a currency nobody wants, Americans were fooled into supporting an illegal war of aggression in order to enrich war profiteers like Halliburton and their rich friends in the military industrial complex. Plus the govt needed a few more guinea pigs for their bio-tech research.
If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything, and a good portion of the American people did just that. They got you to believe absurdities, and from there it was no great stretch to get you to commit atrocities, ...and now your treasury has been pillaged, your bravest killed and maimed, your economy in shambles, your attempt at Empire lost, ...and you and your progeny shackled with debt for generations to come.
Karma is a biyatch!!
That makes sense, thank you!
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That makes sense, thank you!
You're welcome. I wasn't sure the truth would be appreciated, ...but that's never stopped me before. :D
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That makes sense, thank you!
Don't encourage this person.
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Because the brutal and inhumane decades long sanctions did not work to topple Hussein. Despite the deaths of millions of innocent children, Hussein was still in charge, had survived the worst of it, and his country was still intact and would only get stronger since sanctions had come to an end. In order to quell both Israeli & Saudi fears that a secular Iraq could gain strength and influence across the Middle East, and to ensure Iraqi oil sales continued to occur in US Dollars thereby perpetuating the need for a currency nobody wants, Americans were fooled into supporting an illegal war of aggression in order to enrich war profiteers like Halliburton and their rich friends in the military industrial complex. Plus the govt needed a few more guinea pigs for their bio-tech research.
If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything, and a good portion of the American people did just that. They got you to believe absurdities, and from there it was no great stretch to get you to commit atrocities, ...and now your treasury has been pillaged, your bravest killed and maimed, your economy in shambles, your attempt at Empire lost, ...and you and your progeny shackled with debt for generations to come.
Karma is a biyatch!!
We did also rid the world of some dirty stinking Muslims though, so it all balances out in the end !!!
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wait a second. I could have sworn that Rosie O'Donnell said it was a controlled detonation by GWB. she was pretty sure too.
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wait a second. I could have sworn that Rosie O'Donnell said it was a controlled detonation by GWB. she was pretty sure too.
Yes, GWB was there to drop the plunger. He masterminded everything.
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Read this today. I hope the story gets some traction.
People may be engaged in conspiring, though, Archer. Are you sure you could handle the thought?
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Yes, GWB was there to drop the plunger. He masterminded everything.
Yeah - in 9 months he pulled this all off. ::)
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Yeah - in 9 months he pulled this all off. ::)
Reread the post if necessary, SC. Think before you go off. It's the best advice anyone could give you.
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Reread the post if necessary, SC. Think before you go off. It's the best advice anyone could give you.
The whole GWB is behind 9/11 is so ludicrous its not even funny. Been down this rabitt hole too many times to name. A CT involving GWB would have had to include hundreds of people playing the part. And 13 years later not one person cracked or said a word? GMAFB
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The whole GWB is behind 9/11 is so ludicrous its not even funny. Been down this rabitt hole too many times to name. A CT involving GWB would have had to include hundreds of people playing the part. And 13 years later not one person cracked or said a word? GMAFB
he was being facetious
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The whole GWB is behind 9/11 is so ludicrous its not even funny. Been down this rabitt hole too many times to name. A CT involving GWB would have had to include hundreds of people playing the part. And 13 years later not one person cracked or said a word? GMAFB
If I make a very simple thread pertaining to 9/11 (on the CB, of course), to state a short, clear case for an inside job, will you enter it to debate? Because I don't recall EVER seeing you on any 9/11 thread.
(BTW: GWB is a privileged dummy of the sort that Americans should reject, and he further stupefied himself by abusing alcohol for decades. That's who GWB is.)
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he was being facetious
lol..SC is a good dude, but he jumps into action too quickly if he sees something he thinks he may not like.
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People may be engaged in conspiring, though, Archer. Are you sure you could handle the thought?
I'm skeptical of everything, as all people should be, not just the issues I have an emotional stake in wanting to believe are true. I'm not attracted to conspiracy theories or the culture that surrounds it.
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If I make a very simple thread pertaining to 9/11 (on the CB, of course), to state a short, clear case for an inside job, will you enter it to debate? Because I don't recall EVER seeing you on any 9/11 thread.
(BTW: GWB is a privileged dummy of the sort that Americans should reject, and he further stupefied himself by abusing alcohol for decades. That's who GWB is.)
Again - 12 years later not a single witness or person confessing or loose end slipping up? Think about it.
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Again - 12 years later not a single witness or person confessing or loose end slipping up? Think about it.
You are assuming hundreds or perhaps thousands of people, SC. Would that be true?
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You are assuming hundreds or perhaps thousands of people, SC. Would that be true?
At a minimum dozens. And w even so few at 10 people in on it - someone always screws up - ALWAYS.
This isn't Hollywood - its real life. The same idiots who cant even get a website correct, a stim bill to create a single job, etc - are not at the same time capable of carrying this out wo a screw up.
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At a minimum dozens. And w even so few at 10 people in on it - someone always screws up - ALWAYS.
This isn't Hollywood - its real life. The same idiots who cant even get a website correct, a stim bill to create a single job, etc - are not at the same time capable of carrying this out wo a screw up.
at a minimum Biden, Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, and Harry Reid would have known about it and helped cover it up. I've found that most CT'ers quit stating their case when you make them realize that there's no reasonable explanation for a lot of the people in the Obama administration not to have been complicit if what they're saying is true.
There's no way to realistically make it about the "Bad Republicans". Especially since Hillary Clinton went to bat for GWB's decision to use US armed forces on Iraq. So the CT'ers lose traction quickly because they're usually liberal democrats first, conspiracy theorist's second. So if their theory paints someone in the Obama administration in a bad light, nobody wants to hear it.
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At a minimum dozens. And w even so few at 10 people in on it - someone always screws up - ALWAYS.
This isn't Hollywood - its real life. The same idiots who cant even get a website correct, a stim bill to create a single job, etc - are not at the same time capable of carrying this out wo a screw up.
How do you suppose the CIA could exist, then?
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"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members...
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well, effects American security.
This is a very difficult vote, this is probably the hardest decision I've ever had to make. Any vote that might lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction."
Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)
Addressing the US Senate
October 10, 2002
if there was a conspiracy, she was in on it. unless she was stupid enough to believe all of what she says here. because I've heard on many occasions liberals laugh out loud when they hear someone say exactly what Hillary says here.
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How do you suppose the CIA could exist, then?
yeah and shit leaks from them all the time. what do you think the CIA is perfect? or even close?
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yeah and shit leaks from them all the time. what do you think the CIA is perfect? or even close?
Tell me more about the CIA, bears. (and please cite your sources)
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It's as simple as Bush withheld the data in order to keep strong relations with an oil producing nation who the United States also happens to sells a lot of weapons to.
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It's as simple as Bush withheld the data in order to keep strong relations with an oil producing nation who the United States also happens to sells a lot of weapons to.
Ok - who gave Bush the data?
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Ok - who gave Bush the data?
All Im saying is that if the data was withheld it was for diplomatic and monetary reasons and not a huge conspiracy theory in which bush plotted to crash planes into buildings.
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All Im saying is that if the data was withheld it was for diplomatic and monetary reasons and not a huge conspiracy theory in which bush plotted to crash planes into buildings.
Correct - but however that data made its way to W - those people too knew about it and never said anything right?
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"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members...
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well, effects American security.
This is a very difficult vote, this is probably the hardest decision I've ever had to make. Any vote that might lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction."
Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)
Addressing the US Senate
October 10, 2002
if there was a conspiracy, she was in on it. unless she was stupid enough to believe all of what she says here. because I've heard on many occasions liberals laugh out loud when they hear someone say exactly what Hillary says here.
When just 3 months before, both Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell were saying Hussein had been neutralized, and was not at all a threat.
It has also been proven that Hussein and Al Q were enemies. He had been quite successful at keeping Al Q OUT of Iraq. It wasn't until the illegal US invasion that Al Q starting pouring into Iraq to kill American soldiers.
How does it feel to know that the Gov't is partnering with, arming, and supporting an organization whose members were actively involved with killing Americans?
ps: Guess who was in charge of security at the World Trade Centre? Yep, it was a Bush.
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When just 3 months before, both Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell were saying Hussein had been neutralized, and was not at all a threat.
It has also been proven that Hussein and Al Q were enemies. He had been quite successful at keeping Al Q OUT of Iraq. It wasn't until the illegal US invasion that Al Q starting pouring into Iraq to kill American soldiers.
How does it feel to know that the Gov't is partnering with, arming, and supporting an organization whose members were actively involved with killing Americans?
ps: Guess who was in charge of security at the World Trade Centre? Yep, it was a Bush.
OK. so you're saying that Hillary Clinton was definitely part of this conspiracy as well?
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When just 3 months before, both Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell were saying Hussein had been neutralized, and was not at all a threat.
It has also been proven that Hussein and Al Q were enemies. He had been quite successful at keeping Al Q OUT of Iraq. It wasn't until the illegal US invasion that Al Q starting pouring into Iraq to kill American soldiers.
How does it feel to know that the Gov't is partnering with, arming, and supporting an organization whose members were actively involved with killing Americans?
ps: Guess who was in charge of security at the World Trade Centre? Yep, it was a Bush.
and you know this?
did harry reid know this? Hillary Clinton? Biden? Pelosi? you see for the conspiracy theory to work, all or some of these people would have to have been involved. and that's just not convenient for most CT'ers as, like I said before, they're liberal democrats first, CT'ers second.
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Tell me more about the CIA, bears. (and please cite your sources)
http://www.france24.com/en/20130611-ex-cia-whistleblower-missing-leak-debate-rocks-usa-snowden/
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Political whores do not need to be informed about facts, or conspiracies. They don't care about those. They care about votes, and will trumpet whatever meme is prevalent or handed to them.
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Tell me more about the CIA, bears. (and please cite your sources)
what do I have to tell other than they're not the God like organization that many claim them to be because they watch too many movies?
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honestly I thought this board was done with all the fucking idiot conspiracy theorists. why are they back? you know by now even Bill Maher knows you're full of shit right?
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what do I have to tell other than they're not the God like organization that many claim them to be because they watch too many movies?
No, bears, "God-like" isn't the first description that springs to mind.