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Title: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: littleguns on March 02, 2014, 10:35:19 AM
Fans are starting to slowly lose interest in DB, if DB does not win the belt at WM.....there may be no coming back and he may be the next Dolph Ziggler tagging with Kofi and Miz...


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 02, 2014, 10:46:12 AM
If WWE is smart they will have a stipulation of some sort where if DB wins he gets to be involved in the main ev ent for the title or the place will riot.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: gmflex on March 02, 2014, 11:16:10 AM
I think the old man realizes that DB is way over and it could be his next
cash wow if marketed correctly ...


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 02, 2014, 12:39:33 PM
I think the old man realizes that DB is way over and it could be his next
cash wow if marketed correctly ...
10-1 he won't even win the world title anytime soon. Vinces attitude is if he's over anyway, why give him the title?


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 02, 2014, 01:18:15 PM
10-1 he won't even win the world title anytime soon. Vinces attitude is if he's over anyway, why give him the title?


It could build some good heat "holding him back," but doing it for too long may backfire on them.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: gmflex on March 02, 2014, 02:26:17 PM
10-1 he won't even win the world title anytime soon. Vinces attitude is if he's over anyway, why give him the title?


I think Vince is a point where he knows his product is stale..
he needs to drive ratings and attendance ..
so I think DB is going over at mania...
I read that USA network / NBC made a final offer for the new contract for raw show and they
are not negotiating anymore.. its a take or leave it offer..


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 02, 2014, 04:38:04 PM

I think Vince is a point where he knows his product is stale..
he needs to drive ratings and attendance ..
so I think DB is going over at mania...
I read that USA network / NBC made a final offer for the new contract for raw show and they
are not negotiating anymore.. its a take or leave it offer..


How the mighty have fallen.

I remember when RAW was the #1-rated show on cable, and was even pulling better numbers than Monday Night Football for a while!


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: gmflex on March 03, 2014, 08:45:41 PM
There building the match..
It looks like DB is going to chase HHH all the way to mania...


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 04, 2014, 03:04:18 AM

How the mighty have fallen.

I remember when RAW was the #1-rated show on cable, and was even pulling better numbers than Monday Night Football for a while!
Austin 316!!!


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 04, 2014, 04:58:12 AM
Austin 316!!!


But...but...but, CENA...

And, that other guy whose entrance music was viral for 15 whole minutes (I honestly forget his name)...

And, Albeeeeerrrrrtttttooooo Deeeeelllll Rrrrriiiiiooooo!!!!


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: njflex on March 04, 2014, 08:28:36 AM
its fun watching guys elevate from nothing to main event back to midcarder or below,like miz as example.ryback had huge push and now he's still ok but still slipping no?guys like cena get elevated and hold it other than when injured.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 04, 2014, 09:25:16 AM
I wish they would make DB involved in the main event. Make it a triple threat match for the World title with Batista and Orton. I know triple threat matches traditionally don't do well at big events but they have to do something because no one cares about DB facing Triple H.

Batista looks like shit. He's lost a lot of muscle tone and looks much older with his bald, oddly shaped head. I don't know why WWE brought him back. He's 45 years old and looks really slow in the ring. He looks like a serious fag with his cute little nose stud. His Batista bomb on DB was very poorly executed on Raw. No one truly gives a shit about him facing Orton at WM30. Now you have two heels facing off in the main event? The fans won't accept Batista at all.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: njflex on March 04, 2014, 09:32:00 AM
I wish they would make DB involved in the main event. Make it a triple threat match for the World title with Batista and Orton. I know triple threat matches traditionally don't do well at big events but they have to do something because no one cares about DB facing Triple H.

Batista looks like shit. He's lost a lot of muscle tone and looks much older with his bald, oddly shaped head. I don't know why WWE brought him back. He's 45 years old and looks really slow in the ring. He looks like a serious fag with his cute little nose stud. His Batista bomb on DB was very poorly executed on Raw. No one truly gives a shit about him facing Orton at WM30. Now you have two heels facing off in the main event? The fans won't accept Batista at all.
YEAH I saw batista LOOKED WAY DOWN IN SIZE CHEST/TRAPS.SOFT /ABS BLURRED..TATT'S ALL OVER NOW.IT WAS LIKE WHEN SID VISCIOUS WAS SMALLER NOT GOOD TO BEE POWER WRESTLER MINUS SIZE..


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: littleguns on March 05, 2014, 02:40:24 AM

But...but...but, CENA...

And, that other guy whose entrance music was viral for 15 whole minutes (I honestly forget his name)...

And, Albeeeeerrrrrtttttooooo Deeeeelllll Rrrrriiiiiooooo!!!!

Gawd you want a snooze match and a time to hit the concession stand, then definitely add Del Rio to this match. One month out and still no clarity...only 2 matches announced.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: goku on March 05, 2014, 03:18:19 AM
Gawd you want a snooze match and a time to hit the concession stand, then definitely add Del Rio to this match. One month out and still no clarity...only 2 matches announced.

theyre in limbo imo, theyve made a huge cock up by getting batista to main even it and they know it.
only solution is to have cm punk or DB involved to make it a triple threat.

im interested to see how they'll spin roman reigns for WM. would have thought theyd have something big lined for him.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 05, 2014, 04:56:01 AM
One month out and still no clarity...only 2 matches announced.


And, this is from the same man who had story lines planed months in advance back in the 80's.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 05, 2014, 06:05:54 PM

But...but...but, CENA...

And, that other guy whose entrance music was viral for 15 whole minutes (I honestly forget his name)...

And, Albeeeeerrrrrtttttooooo Deeeeelllll Rrrrriiiiiooooo!!!!
And the ever so talented Ryback and Miz.....


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 05, 2014, 06:42:50 PM
And the ever so talented Ryback and Miz.....


 ;)


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: littleguns on March 06, 2014, 03:01:48 AM
I was thinking about getting the network right before WM, watch it with my 6 yr old son like I used t do with my Step Dad....even at $9.95 I dont even know if I am interested....sad state.

I can't wait for AAA and Jeff Jarrett's promotion to start. Granted they really wont be heavy competition for Vince but maybe he will start waking up.....


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Karl Kox on March 07, 2014, 06:39:24 AM
I was thinking about getting the network right before WM, watch it with my 6 yr old son like I used t do with my Step Dad....even at $9.95 I dont even know if I am interested....sad state.

I can't wait for AAA and Jeff Jarrett's promotion to start. Granted they really wont be heavy competition for Vince but maybe he will start waking up.....



That promotion won't be any better than TNA and I really don't see it doing even as well as them. TNA has only lasted because of Dixie Carter's money. You could not convince me that that place  is making money.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 07, 2014, 09:27:14 AM


That promotion won't be any better than TNA and I really don't see it doing even as well as them. TNA has only lasted because of Dixie Carter's money. You could not convince me that that place  is making money.


I've gotten the impression that her dad is pumping endless amounts of money into funding the company, and that is the only reason it is still afloat.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Karl Kox on March 07, 2014, 12:27:50 PM

I've gotten the impression that her dad is pumping endless amounts of money into funding the company, and that is the only reason it is still afloat.


Sounds about right.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 08, 2014, 07:40:32 AM
Not sure about the States but here in Canada you can watch a wWE PPV at any sports bar. There may be a small 5 dollar cover charge but big deal. You make a night out of it. Beer, wings, shots, fun.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Karl Kox on March 08, 2014, 09:54:35 AM
Not sure about the States but here in Canada you can watch a wWE PPV at any sports bar. There may be a small 5 dollar cover charge but big deal. You make a night out of it. Beer, wings, shots, fun.


Here as well. That's big to do with UFC as well.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: TheGrinch on March 08, 2014, 10:23:05 AM
damn I miss the Austin, Rock, DX, Foley days :-(


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 08, 2014, 07:06:41 PM
damn I miss the Austin, Rock, DX, Foley days :-(


I miss anything pre-2002.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: MCWAY on March 18, 2014, 07:59:45 PM
If WWE is smart they will have a stipulation of some sort where if DB wins he gets to be involved in the main ev ent for the title or the place will riot.

That's what they did. Helmsley vs. Bryan....winner gets added to title match.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Melkor on March 19, 2014, 02:25:35 AM
That final spot on Raw this week with Daniel Bryan in handcuffs was one of the better, more edgier spots that I have seen in a longtime. It added some heat to the angle but its still gonna be hard to get the fans into the match at WM given the stipulation. BTW, Triple H was looking more jacked than he ever has, wonder if the "talent wellness program" applies to him...


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Karl Kox on March 19, 2014, 05:36:05 AM
That final spot on Raw this week with Daniel Bryan in handcuffs was one of the better, more edgier spots that I have seen in a longtime. It added some heat to the angle but its still gonna be hard to get the fans into the match at WM given the stipulation. BTW, Triple H was looking more jacked than he ever has, wonder if the "talent wellness program" applies to him...


I agree it was good.  To me it would have been a little better and given Steph HHH more heat if Bryan's Bella chick came down and pleaded for them to stop and steph held her back and made her watch.

As far as Triple H's physique,  look at 2002 triple h. He was massive.  I'm pretty sure the wellness program is still in effect.  There's a huge difference in him now and then.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 19, 2014, 05:44:47 AM
As far as Triple H's physique,  look at 2002 triple h. He was massive.  I'm pretty sure the wellness program is still in effect.  There's a huge difference in him now and then.


He's also 12 years older. I suspect he's still using, but his body simply doesn't respond the same as it did when he was younger.

My friend's buddy is on the current WWE roster. He's admitted that certain guys are given an FYI before drug testing so that they can "conveniently" miss their flight to that show, etc.

If that is the case, then I can easily see the boss's son-in-law getting a total pardon. Hell, in the 80's, Hogan's piss test results were sent DIRECTLY to the old man's office for a time. Drug testing has ALWAYS been selective in the WWF.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Melkor on March 19, 2014, 10:48:32 AM

I agree it was good.  To me it would have been a little better and given Steph HHH more heat if Bryan's Bella chick came down and pleaded for them to stop and steph held her back and made her watch.

As far as Triple H's physique,  look at 2002 triple h. He was massive.  I'm pretty sure the wellness program is still in effect.  There's a huge difference in him now and then.

On the whole though, the average size and muscularity has greatly decreased since the stricter drug enforcement policy came in. Just look at the likes of Orton and Batista now compared to what they were like pre-2007. There's no doubt about Triple H on Monday though, he looked bigger than he has in a long time. (I googled Triple H  in 2002 - yeah you're right, I forgot how ridiculous he was back then).

(http://photos.imageevent.com/pizon/wrestlingpromosandphotos/Triple%20H%20j.jpg)


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 19, 2014, 12:27:57 PM
When Triple H came back from the first quad tear in 2002, he was shredded. His physique peaked right around the time he dropped the title to Hogan.

As far as him being older....I don't think he's receptors are fried yet. If he was on the same gear he took back in 2002 he could attain that previous look. He just doesn't take as many cutting drugs as he once did. He may be older but he's wrestling on a far less physical schedule so he's not as injury prone as he once was.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 19, 2014, 04:24:23 PM

He's also 12 years older. I suspect he's still using, but his body simply doesn't respond the same as it did when he was younger.

My friend's buddy is on the current WWE roster. He's admitted that certain guys are given an FYI before drug testing so that they can "conveniently" miss their flight to that show, etc.

If that is the case, then I can easily see the boss's son-in-law getting a total pardon. Hell, in the 80's, Hogan's piss test results were sent DIRECTLY to the old man's office for a time. Drug testing has ALWAYS been selective in the WWF.
Howard Finkel used to pee in Hogan's cup for the rec drug testing they did in the eighties. It all came out at the 1994 steroid trial.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 19, 2014, 05:39:16 PM
Howard Finkel used to pee in Hogan's cup for the rec drug testing they did in the eighties. It all came out at the 1994 steroid trial.


Yep!

Although, I also recall a time during which the old man had Hogan's results sent straight to his office. I think Bret may have mentioned that.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 20, 2014, 04:03:27 PM

Yep!

Although, I also recall a time during which the old man had Hogan's results sent straight to his office. I think Bret may have mentioned that.
Yes absolutely.  Anita Scales who worked at Titan Towers used to place Hogan's steroid orders with Dr.Zahorian and have the stuff Fex Ex'd right to Vince's office. Hogan wood go by and pick up his check...fan mail...and juice.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 20, 2014, 04:33:07 PM
Yes absolutely.  Anita Scales who worked at Titan Towers used to place Hogan's steroid orders with Dr.Zahorian and have the stuff Fex Ex'd right to Vince's office. Hogan wood go by and pick up his check...fan mail...and juice.


1985 - 1989 had to be Hogan's best years.

I wonder what it was like to be Terry Bollea at that time. 


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Karl Kox on March 20, 2014, 04:43:29 PM

1985 - 1989 had to be Hogan's best years.

I wonder what it was like to be Terry Bollea at that time. 


A lot of guys made money because of him.  Just being on his card at that time meant more money. 

Who do you think was over more during their time him or Austin?

I have to say Austin.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 20, 2014, 04:53:40 PM

A lot of guys made money because of him.  Just being on his card at that time meant more money. 

Who do you think was over more during their time him or Austin?

I have to say Austin.


Awe man, I hate when people ask that question. To me, it's like trying to compare Nicholson's Joker to Ledger's.

There's A LOT of other factors and variables that I think render an accurate direct comparison impractical. It's like when people ask who drew the most between Bruno, Hulk, and Austin, etc.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Dago_Joe on March 20, 2014, 05:10:16 PM

How the mighty have fallen.

I remember when RAW was the #1-rated show on cable, and was even pulling better numbers than Monday Night Football for a while!

OMG I remember Monday night was all I looked forward to all week.  It was truly an exciting time as a fan with the intense rivalry of WCW and WWF.  And then on top of this you had ECW doing its thing.  That was truly the pinnacle of professional wrestling. 


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 20, 2014, 06:24:01 PM
OMG I remember Monday night was all I looked forward to all week.  It was truly an exciting time as a fan with the intense rivalry of WCW and WWF.  And then on top of this you had ECW doing its thing.  That was truly the pinnacle of professional wrestling.  


That period will remain the favorite for A LOT of wrestling fans.
I am still a huge mark for the 80's WWF, which were like magic to me as a kid. Some posters here will forever hold dear the 70's & 80's Mid-Atlantic era. There are even other more obscure promotions and talent reminisced here on occasion.

But, I believe that the" Monday Night Wars" may be the apex of the business in terms of overall popularity. I don't think professional wrestling has ever been more mainstream than it was then.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: njflex on March 20, 2014, 06:28:08 PM

That period will remain the favorite for A LOT of wrestling fans.
I am still a huge mark for the 80's, which were like magic to me as a kid. Some posters here will forever hold dear the 70's & 80's Mid-Atlantic era.

But, I believe that the" Monday Night Wars" may be the apex of the business in terms of overall popularity. I don't think professional wrestling has ever been more mainstream than it was then.
how can you not reminisce about a florida wreslting match nwa when a 'satanic'kevin sullivan and dusty rhodes were in a cage match and jake the snake roberts dressed as 'santa claus'enters ringside and brings a gift for kev.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 20, 2014, 06:29:28 PM
how can you not reminisce about a florida wreslting match nwa when a 'satanic'kevin sullivan and dusty rhodes were in a cage match and jake the snake roberts dressed as 'santa claus'enters ringside and brings a gift for kev.


Memories...


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Melkor on March 22, 2014, 04:49:36 AM

A lot of guys made money because of him.  Just being on his card at that time meant more money. 

Who do you think was over more during their time him or Austin?

I have to say Austin.

Over more? I would have to agree with you and say Austin. The weekly pops he was getting around '98 have never been matched and likely never will by anybody again. Hogan was more over in popular culture at the time but among wrestling fans I think Stone Cold was probably more acclaimed. It could have been the timeframe too, with the type of fan WWF was appealing to during the attitude era but I remember EVERYBODY had a stone cold t-shirt or sign. Vince has said it himself numerous times, Austin was the most popular (and profitable) superstar ever.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 22, 2014, 04:59:47 AM
Over more? I would have to agree with you and say Austin. The weekly pops he was getting around '98 have never been matched and likely never will by anybody again. Hogan was more over in popular culture at the time but among wrestling fans I think Stone Cold was probably more acclaimed. It could have been the timeframe too, with the type of fan WWF was appealing to during the attitude era but I remember EVERYBODY had a stone cold t-shirt or sign. Vince has said it himself numerous times, Austin was the most popular (and profitable) superstar ever.


Didn't they say that Austin merchandise outsold Hulkamania merchandise?
THAT'S impressive, considering the amount of stuff Hogan has had out. I wonder how they did the comparison. Did they only compare t-shirt sales? What kind of time frame did they use? Dave Meltzer may have the answers to some of those questions.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Melkor on March 22, 2014, 05:03:44 AM
My favourite period was definitely the monday night war period. I also have a soft spot for the "new generation" period because it was when I first started getting into wrestling and I still think a lot of the matches during that time (Bret, Shawn, Owen, Undertaker) hold up today.

Lately though Ive been getting into some of that mid 80's stuff, not so much WWF, but more of the NWA stuff like Mid-South and early WCW which is completely new to me and seems to be a lot more appealing to a wrestling fan than what was going on in WWF.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Melkor on March 22, 2014, 05:06:59 AM

Didn't they say that Austin merchandise outsold Hulkamania merchandise?
THAT'S impressive, considering the amount of stuff Hogan has had out. I wonder how they did the comparison. Did they only compare t-shirt sales? What kind of time frame did they use? Dave Meltzer may have the answers to some of those questions.

Yeah Austin's stuff did outsell Hogan's, I assume they meant t-shirts, mugs, action figures - the usual stuff. I guess Vince would ultimately be the authority on who was more profitable as he oversaw the companies fortunes during both runs and I get the impression that he would lean toward Austin being the biggers star.

But credit to Hogan, had he not had the impact he had during the 80's who knows what wrestling would have been like in the 90's.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 22, 2014, 05:17:31 AM
But credit to Hogan, had he not had the impact he had during the 80's who knows what wrestling would have been like in the 90's.


Oh, the old man was lining up heirs to Hogan's throne even while Hulkster was white hot! Around '86, Vince brought down Tom Magee from Calgary. Tom had a great build and had been working/training with the Hart's in Calgary.

Vince wanted to see if the guy was any good, and it was said Hogan was more than a little nervous until everybody saw Magee stink up the ring in his big tryout match. And, that was working with Bret Hart. If you can't look good working with somebody like that, then maybe you need to look for another profession!

My point supports what you are getting at above: we rag on Hogan, but he did pull "it" off, and not just anybody could have done the same.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: littleguns on March 22, 2014, 05:22:48 AM
Over more? I would have to agree with you and say Austin. The weekly pops he was getting around '98 have never been matched and likely never will by anybody again. Hogan was more over in popular culture at the time but among wrestling fans I think Stone Cold was probably more acclaimed. It could have been the timeframe too, with the type of fan WWF was appealing to during the attitude era but I remember EVERYBODY had a stone cold t-shirt or sign. Vince has said it himself numerous times, Austin was the most popular (and profitable) superstar ever.

Makes you wonder...if Austin never tore his Tricep leading to his firing from WCW.......


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Melkor on March 22, 2014, 12:55:55 PM
Makes you wonder...if Austin never tore his Tricep leading to his firing from WCW.......

Right, one wonders if his ability and potential would have seen him still rise to top over time.

Its like wondering what would have happened if the MSG curtain call had not happened. Triple H was originally supposed to win the 96 King of the Ring but was buried for his part in MSG. So Austin got the push, resulting in the famous Austin 3:16 promo after he beat Jake Roberts in the final. After that he was on a whole new level. BUT, Triple H still made it to the top a few years later, so it begs the question as to whether some guys are destined to make it regardless of circumstance.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 22, 2014, 01:20:13 PM
Right, one wonders if his ability and potential would have seen him still rise to top over time.

Its like wondering what would have happened if the MSG curtain call had not happened. Triple H was originally supposed to win the 96 King of the Ring but was buried for his part in MSG. So Austin got the push, resulting in the famous Austin 3:16 promo after he beat Jake Roberts in the final. After that he was on a whole new level. BUT, Triple H still made it to the top a few years later, so it begs the question as to whether some guys are destined to make it regardless of circumstance.


I was always under the impression that Hunter's push was imminent, but simply delayed a bit as "punishment" for the the "Curtain Call." Hall & Nash were leaving, Shawn had the belt (and a special relationship with Vince); HHH was left to face the reprimand alone.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Melkor on March 22, 2014, 01:46:24 PM

I was always under the impression that Hunter's push was imminent, but simply delayed a bit as "punishment" for the the "Curtain Call." Hall & Nash were leaving, Shawn had the belt (and a special relationship with Vince); HHH was left to face the reprimand alone.

 ;D (http://wrestlinglol.com/images/vlcsnap2011012001h45m46.png)


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 22, 2014, 02:54:26 PM
;D (http://wrestlinglol.com/images/vlcsnap2011012001h45m46.png)


Yep.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: littleguns on March 23, 2014, 03:57:30 AM
I wonder if HHH and Vince sit around the dinner table talking about how he was punished for the MSG experience which led to the pig slop match which eventually him getting the keys to the castle...


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 23, 2014, 06:34:23 AM
I wonder if HHH and Vince sit around the dinner table talking about how he was punished for the MSG experience which led to the pig slop match which eventually him getting the keys to the castle...


I can guarantee you Paul LeVesque remembers it, which makes where he is now all the sweeter!!


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 23, 2014, 09:42:10 AM
It would be interesting to see the pre-nup, as this is a case where the woman has more.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 24, 2014, 04:12:53 PM

1985 - 1989 had to be Hogan's best years.

I wonder what it was like to be Terry Bollea at that time. 
3 mil per year plus bonuses ... ppv payouts...movies...the love of the world...id say it was good.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Dago_Joe on March 25, 2014, 08:45:08 AM
3 mil per year plus bonuses ... ppv payouts...movies...the love of the world...id say it was good.

Brutus Beefcake tells a story when Hogan asked him to hold his check for Wrestlemania one year and he looked at it.  1.2 million for one match! 


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 25, 2014, 01:41:15 PM
Now he's a broken down old man with most of his fortune gone. It kills me that his c.u.n.t of an ex-wife took all his money and pissed it away.

I'm glad he can still make money nowadays on his own without that disgusting cow taking any of it.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 25, 2014, 01:43:00 PM
Now he's a broken down old man with most of his fortune gone. It kills me that his girl of an ex-wife took all his money and pissed it away.

I'm glad he can still make money nowadays on his own without that disgusting cow taking any of it.


What were the details of the settlement? Does anyone know?


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 25, 2014, 04:30:14 PM

What were the details of the settlement? Does anyone know?
He keeps the keys to the liquor cabinet.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 25, 2014, 04:45:11 PM
He keeps the keys to the liquor cabinet.


Wait, are we talking about Hall or Hogan?


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 25, 2014, 05:22:10 PM

What were the details of the settlement? Does anyone know?

Not sure the exact figures but he gave away the mother lode. All those years of putting his body through physical punishment so that his family could live like kings.

I'm sure he had to pay a huge sum of $ to the family of the kid that was paralyzed from his idiot son's car accident.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 25, 2014, 05:24:10 PM
Not sure the exact figures but he gave away the mother lode. All those years of putting his body through physical punishment so that his family could live like kings.

I'm sure he had to pay a huge sum of $ to the family of the kid that was paralyzed from his idiot son's car accident.


How the hell did she get so much? I thought Florida was a "no fault" state.

What happened to 50/50?


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 25, 2014, 05:31:29 PM

How the hell did she get so much? I thought Florida was a "no fault" state.

What happened to 50/50?


Don't know but she got a ton. Disgusting twat.



Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 25, 2014, 05:34:16 PM

How the hell did she get so much? I thought Florida was a "no fault" state.

What happened to 50/50?
Shes already pissed more than sixty percent of it away.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Dago_Joe on March 25, 2014, 05:46:22 PM
Shes already pissed more than sixty percent of it away.

Did you guys ever hear Hogan tell the story of how Linda his brilliant business manager was offered the now George Foreman Grill for Hogan to endorse.  Hogan was their first choice, but she passed on it.  Imagine how much money she gave away right there!  Stupid c.u.n.t.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 25, 2014, 05:48:23 PM

Don't know but she got a ton. Disgusting twat.




That's okay, she won't have it long.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 25, 2014, 05:52:32 PM
Did you guys ever hear Hogan tell the story of how Linda his brilliant business manager was offered the now George Foreman Grill for Hogan to endorse.  Hogan was their first choice, but she passed on it.  Imagine how much money she gave away right there!  Stupid c.u.n.t.


Yes, I've heard that, too.

After watching a few episodes of their reality show and seeing what she's like now, I can't imagine living with her for any length of time. Hogan should get an award for not going "Benoit" on her ass.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Dago_Joe on March 25, 2014, 05:57:08 PM

Yes, I've heard that, too.

After watching a few episodes of their reality show and seeing what she's like now, I can't imagine living with her for any length of time. Hogan should get an award for not going "Benoit" on her ass.

Her and her little twink manlet she moved in to their mansion right away.  Hogan was on Howard Stern talking about how he nearly killed him when he saw him driving around in his Escalade, Mercedes, Harley, Speedboat, etc. just rubbing it in Hogans face.  I would have torn him to pieces and beat linda to death with his skinny little limbs.  fagget.  I'm not even Hogan and I'm furioius about this, i cant imagine how mad he  must be.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 25, 2014, 06:27:29 PM
Did you guys ever hear Hogan tell the story of how Linda his brilliant business manager was offered the now George Foreman Grill for Hogan to endorse.  Hogan was their first choice, but she passed on it.  Imagine how much money she gave away right there!  Stupid c.u.n.t.
I did. Big loss of revenue there.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 25, 2014, 07:18:49 PM
Her and her little twink manlet she moved in to their mansion right away.  Hogan was on Howard Stern talking about how he nearly killed him when he saw him driving around in his Escalade, Mercedes, Harley, Speedboat, etc. just rubbing it in Hogans face.  I would have torn him to pieces and beat linda to death with his skinny little limbs.  fagget.  I'm not even Hogan and I'm furioius about this, i cant imagine how mad he  must be.


How the f*ck did she get the house, the vehicles, AND the money!?!?

I've seen Hogan's car collection; it's quite impressive, and I know that they eventually put the house on the market. I still want to know how their assets were divided up.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: MCWAY on March 25, 2014, 08:25:33 PM

How the f*ck did she get the house, the vehicles, AND the money!?!?

I've seen Hogan's car collection; it's quite impressive, and I know that they eventually put the house on the market. I still want to know how their assets were divided up.

They say sometimes there's a high price for low livin'. Hogan was creeping on Linda and apparently the divorce lawyers helped her take the Hulkster to the cleaners.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 26, 2014, 01:30:51 AM
Hogan's already made a shit load of his money back.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 26, 2014, 04:29:06 AM
Hogan's already made a shit load of his money back.


I wonder how much money Linda has made.
 :)


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 26, 2014, 05:07:02 AM

I wonder how much money Linda has made.
 :)


Hey, I forgot about this gem:

(http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/uploads/1/51S2a4IdXpL.jpg)

 8)


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 26, 2014, 05:43:51 AM
Hogan's already made a shit load of his money back.

I would love to agree with you but I have a hard time buying that.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 26, 2014, 05:47:16 AM
This seems to be a fairly accurate and detailed account of the Hogan/Bollea settlement: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2011/11/hulk-hogan-divorce-settlement-costly-details-linda-bollea/1#.UzLZ9mS9Kc1


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 26, 2014, 06:14:12 AM
I would love to agree with you but I have a hard time buying that.
Well hes got a 6000sqft mansion in Clearwater plus he has endorsements and has been working.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: njflex on March 26, 2014, 06:51:29 AM
HOGAN as a wrestling personality will never be surpassed in terms of dollar generated,made,spent,ever.he made a fortune as a extension of terry bollea 'hulk hogan',he is easy to like,gets excited and turns on the audience like no other'ric flair'being other obvious choice flair did it in a different charisma 'luxury'excellence'ect,,,both gave a lot to the genre...


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 26, 2014, 06:58:29 AM
Well hes got a 6000sqft mansion in Clearwater plus he has endorsements and has been working.


He's still got his businesses and other investments, too. Unlike the bleached blonde hippo, Terry understands how to put his money to work. She only knows how to spend/blow it. She has the mentality of a 19 year-old winning the lottery.

Hulk will be able to support himself for the rest of his life. She, on the other hand, has no ability to do the same. She is too immature and too irresponsible to do anything besides have things handed to her.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 26, 2014, 10:18:31 AM

He's still got his businesses and other investments, too. Unlike the bleached blonde hippo, Terry understands how to put his money to work. She only knows how to spend/blow it. She has the mentality of a 19 year-old winning the lottery.

Hulk will be able to support himself for the rest of his life. She, on the other hand, has no ability to do the same. She is too immature and too irresponsible to do anything besides have things handed to her.
Shes got a 40,000 dollar per week spending habit.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 26, 2014, 10:35:09 AM
HOGAN as a wrestling personality will never be surpassed in terms of dollar generated,made,spent,ever.he made a fortune as a extension of terry bollea 'hulk hogan',he is easy to like,gets excited and turns on the audience like no other'ric flair'being other obvious choice flair did it in a different charisma 'luxury'excellence'ect,,,both gave a lot to the genre...


Look at how much Hogan lost in his one divorce. Now, imagine what Flair's gone through with his FOUR!!!

Hopefully, Naitch was smart enough to do prenups with at least some of those.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 26, 2014, 12:09:41 PM

Look at how much Hogan lost in his one divorce. Now, imagine what Flair's gone through with his FOUR!!!

Hopefully, Naitch was smart enough to do prenups with at least some of those.
Im sure they are. A lot of what you read on the net is bullshit and or inaccurate.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 26, 2014, 12:17:38 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GvmCK1fNgEM/USZaHEa_j4I/AAAAAAAAEwk/_p_7lyC46t8/s1600/flairfour_zpsf543d986%5B1%5D.jpg)


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Karl Kox on March 26, 2014, 12:24:26 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GvmCK1fNgEM/USZaHEa_j4I/AAAAAAAAEwk/_p_7lyC46t8/s1600/flairfour_zpsf543d986%5B1%5D.jpg)

This is the second thing you've posted today that mad me LOL.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 26, 2014, 12:29:07 PM
You're welcome!
 8)


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 26, 2014, 12:55:10 PM
(http://www.memegene.net/media/created/4xdqxi.jpg)


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 26, 2014, 12:55:51 PM
(http://www.memegene.net/media/created/oo315x.jpg)


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 26, 2014, 12:56:43 PM
(http://www.memegene.net/media/created/dwlh7o.jpg)


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 26, 2014, 12:57:20 PM
(http://www.memegene.net/media/created/89x491.jpg)


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 26, 2014, 12:57:50 PM
(http://www.memegene.net/media/created/qzn9fh.jpg)


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 26, 2014, 01:00:08 PM
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/Class_B/Wrestling/th_84a2abd4adae68bcadc03e23e0f7db90_zps41e887b9.jpg) (http://s127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/Class_B/Wrestling/?action=view&current=84a2abd4adae68bcadc03e23e0f7db90_zps41e887b9.jpg)


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 26, 2014, 01:42:50 PM
Lol...omg....these pics are all priceless


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 26, 2014, 01:43:38 PM
(http://www.memegene.net/media/created/qzn9fh.jpg)

Now, that's loose!!



Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 26, 2014, 02:07:43 PM
Careful Lizzy....some people here think the Miz is a main event caliber A player star....


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Karl Kox on March 27, 2014, 03:52:09 AM
Careful Lizzy....some people here think the Miz is a main event caliber A player star....


I think Miz was given his title run because it got the WWE a little outside attention from non wrestling people. That being said I don't think he was terrible but do think he's annoying at times.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on March 27, 2014, 05:47:35 AM

I think Miz was given his title run because it got the WWE a little outside attention from non wrestling people. That being said I don't think he was terrible but do think he's annoying at times.
Miz is / was a mid card talent at best. Harley Race laughed his ass off when they put the big title on him.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Karl Kox on March 27, 2014, 06:24:54 AM
Miz is / was a mid card talent at best. Harley Race laughed his ass off when they put the big title on him.


Race is very old school and is also very overrated IMO. Him and Miz are in the same boat. 


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 27, 2014, 09:58:32 AM

Look at how much Hogan lost in his one divorce. Now, imagine what Flair's gone through with his FOUR!!!

Hopefully, Naitch was smart enough to do prenups with at least some of those.

The definitive piece on the subject:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1153364
   

March 23, 2009
How (and Why) Athletes Go Broke
Recession or no recession, many NFL, NBA and Major League Baseball players have a penchant for losing most or all of their money. It doesn't matter how much they make. And the ways they blow it are strikingly similar
PABLO S. TORRE


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on March 27, 2014, 10:05:18 AM

Race is very old school and is also very overrated IMO. Him and Miz are in the same boat. 


But, Harley had a ton of backstage respect - many even believe more than Flair.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: MCWAY on April 05, 2014, 07:45:08 PM
I wonder if HHH and Vince sit around the dinner table talking about how he was punished for the MSG experience which led to the pig slop match which eventually him getting the keys to the castle...

The feud that Helmsley had with Henry Godwin was in 1995 and early 1996, when Diesel and Razor were still in the WWF. By the time that curtain call mess happened, Henry was in another angle with him and Phineas winning the tag titles and being manipulated by Sunny, to later lose the belts to the Smoking Gunns.

Plus, Hunter ended up IC champion in late '96. So, his 'punishment' wasn't really so harsh, after all. Of course, that may have had more to do with Ahmed Johnson's injury and Marc Mero's somewhat flat IC title reign.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: MCWAY on April 05, 2014, 08:30:36 PM

I think Miz was given his title run because it got the WWE a little outside attention from non wrestling people. That being said I don't think he was terrible but do think he's annoying at times.

WWE was also short on heels. People constantly complained about Cena, Orton, and Helmsley rotating with the belt. Yet, every time WWE tries to create new heels, folks on the so-called internet wrestling community start bickering.

They went ape when Sheamus beat Cena for the WWE title. How do you complain about Cena being the poster boy, then when he get beat (clean, no less) by Sheamus, you whine about that.

I'm not talking about you specifically, Karl, just some folks in general.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Melkor on April 06, 2014, 02:41:47 AM
WWE was also short on heels. People constantly complained about Cena, Orton, and Helmsley rotating with the belt. Yet, every time WWE tries to create new heels, folks on the so-called internet wrestling community start bickering.

They went ape when Sheamus beat Cena for the WWE title. How do you complain about Cena being the poster boy, then when he get beat (clean, no less) by Sheamus, you whine about that.

I'm not talking about you specifically, Karl, just some folks in general.

Yeah but it is so difficult for a heel to get heat in the PG, promo scripted era. Heels need to carry out vicious attack and cut edgy, offensive promos to get real heat. The Miz for me and for many was just not a believable threat. He just didn't seem legit or capable of beating any of the big names.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Montague on April 06, 2014, 04:37:02 AM
Yeah but it is so difficult for a heel to get heat in the PG, promo scripted era. Heels need to carry out vicious attack and cut edgy, offensive promos to get real heat. The Miz for me and for many was just not a believable threat. He just didn't seem legit or capable of beating any of the big names.


Those are good points. WWE is reverting back to more of what it was in the late 80's/early 90's. There is a heavier focus on toys, and now they appear to being doing cartoons again. With Vince, it seems like it's either one extreme or another.

Personally, I would like to see them adopt a style more like the Crockett/80's NWA. That product was suitable for families to attend and watch, and I doubt there was anyone who didn't consider Terry Funk, Arn Anderson and crew "edgy."

You don't need to push the censor envelope to appeal to adults, and you don't have to be a "live action cartoon" to be family-friendly. NWA's formula satisfied multiple demographics. WWE, however, seems to alienate most of one demographic in favor of another when it shifts its content.


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: Playboy on April 06, 2014, 06:02:33 AM
Yeah but it is so difficult for a heel to get heat in the PG, promo scripted era. Heels need to carry out vicious attack and cut edgy, offensive promos to get real heat. The Miz for me and for many was just not a believable threat. He just didn't seem legit or capable of beating any of the big names.
Agreed 100%


Title: Re: Bryan vs HHH Really??!!
Post by: MCWAY on April 06, 2014, 06:06:21 AM
Yeah but it is so difficult for a heel to get heat in the PG, promo scripted era. Heels need to carry out vicious attack and cut edgy, offensive promos to get real heat. The Miz for me and for many was just not a believable threat. He just didn't seem legit or capable of beating any of the big names.

 It's not just the Miz, although he had the "jerk" factor that made you hate his guts. Not all heels are Triple H types. Miz was more like an early Kurt Angle or Honky Tonk Man.


Another guy on which they royally dropped the ball is Jack Swagger. Remember his "Real American" makeover? That was perfect for him. Add Zeb Coulter as his manager (to cover Swagger's lisp and do his promos) and he was GOLDEN, until that DUI/weed thing.

Even back in 2010, Swagger got clowned. He wins the last WM Money-In-The-Bank match and cashes the case on Jericho to win the World title (we can't possibly have him cash it on Cena for the WWE title, fresh off Cena's win against Batista, now can we?). Then he beats both Jericho and Edge to retain the title, only to lose to Rey Mysterio?


I mean why is Randy Orton "main event" material now when a year ago Swagger was beating him, left and right? He beat him in the Chamber to get his WM World title shot last year against Del Rio. He beat Orton on Smackdown multiple times.

Now, just a few months later, Orton gets both belts (after his umpteenth feud with Cena) and Swagger is buried behind Cesaro, in the "Real Americans" tag team? Both Del Rio and Swagger got smothered in the Cena-Orton saga.

Two years ago, Orton was in a meaningless 'Mania match with Kane (which he lost); last year, he was in a six-man-tag match against the Shield (which he lost); now, he's the main event of WM30?

That's why I said in my 'Mania predictions that a Bray Wyatt win over Cena means basically ZILCH. Miz beat Cena at WrestleMania three years ago....a lot of good that did him. All that did was push the Rock-Cena feud. Once Miz dropped the belt....GAME OVER!!


Del Rio beat Cena at Hell in the Cell and Night of Champions in 2011 (in title matches); that hardly helped him.

Ziggler beat Cena at TLC 2012 with Ziggler's MITB case on the line.  The implication was that, if Cena won it, he wasn't going to squander the Smackdown briefcase as he did the Raw one; in other words, he would do a 'traditional' cash-in (wait for the champ to get beta up then make the title match).


Heck, Sheamus beat Cena TWICE for the WWE title, straight up the first time at TLC. The second he dropped the belt (to Orton, of course), it was a first-class ticket back to the midcard for him.