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Title: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Skorp1o on March 06, 2014, 09:11:23 AM
We all know you reject the evolution theory, but how come in every single depiction of Adam and Eve you give them belly buttons  ???

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Gossaert_Thyssen_Adam_and_Eve.jpg)
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: galeniko on March 06, 2014, 09:12:33 AM
yes,true,but no penis ;D
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 06, 2014, 09:19:49 AM
Both look like shit I dont care about them, they dont lift.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Skorp1o on March 06, 2014, 09:28:03 AM
Both look like shit I dont care about them, they dont lift.

Bigger calves than wolf  >:(
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Man of Steel on March 06, 2014, 09:48:55 AM
the artists guessed or didn't consider it or didn't care

did adam have nipples?  did jesus have nipples?  I assume so.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 06, 2014, 09:50:04 AM
artist was a getbigger

he didn't care


Fruit.... Fruit.... Tits.... Tits....!
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 06, 2014, 09:50:56 AM
ALL religion is bullocks.

The bible is full of amusing stories written by men.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on March 06, 2014, 09:52:32 AM
Adam looking shredded there
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Man of Steel on March 06, 2014, 09:52:55 AM
ALL religion is bullocks.

The bible is full of amusing stories written by men.

It's "bollocks" if I remember right.  I like to be insulted properly.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Wez on March 06, 2014, 09:54:00 AM
Looks like T3,Clen and some pharma GH.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Ruffian on March 06, 2014, 09:55:11 AM
Evolution is taught in Catholic schools.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: CichirelloMagnet on March 06, 2014, 09:56:29 AM
There is a huge portion of Christians who believe the evolutionary theory, there's many that have issues with evolution, but believe the science behind the age of the universe and earth. Only the ones who disregard science and read the Genesis stories as a science book, instead of Hebrew poetry, have issues like that.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: The True Adonis on March 06, 2014, 10:06:10 AM
There is a huge portion of Christians who believe the evolutionary theory, there's many that have issues with evolution, but believe the science behind the age of the universe and earth. Only the ones who disregard science and read the Genesis stories as a science book, instead of Hebrew poetry, have issues like that.
They all have issues believing in nonsense.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Darren Avey on March 06, 2014, 10:12:10 AM
Another thing, why did God make us, to stress him out and all that? Why didn't he just carry on existing with the holy spirits or whatevrr? Why dd he make us was it for a hobby? what/?
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 06, 2014, 10:55:52 AM
Big Bang
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: ESFitness on March 06, 2014, 01:08:30 PM
it's magic dude.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Parker on March 06, 2014, 02:30:22 PM
We all know you reject the evolution theory, but how come in every single depiction of Adam and Eve you give them belly buttons  ???

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Gossaert_Thyssen_Adam_and_Eve.jpg)
hmm, gee an artist's interpretation of two naked Europeans with the background of a European countryside.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Hulkster on March 06, 2014, 06:34:19 PM
Eve wore a fig leaf

Adam wore a hole in it.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Viking11 on March 06, 2014, 09:39:51 PM
Where did Cain's wife come from?
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: The Ugly on March 06, 2014, 09:56:00 PM
Where did Cain's wife come from?

I think they decided it must have been his sister. However, after he kills Abel, God sends him away to roam the earth as punishment. Before doing so, He "marks" Cain so that no man can kill him.

What men?
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Radical Plato on March 06, 2014, 10:06:37 PM
(http://legacy-cdn-assets.answersingenesis.org/assets/images/media/cartoons/after-eden/20010312.gif)

(http://www.truthdig.com/images/cartoonuploads/FISHGodIsWatching-500.jpg)
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Radical Plato on March 07, 2014, 02:43:29 AM
It sucks that this ivan drago character is the one left defending religious people.

What makes non religious people do good things?

If there is no one to answer to, is that free reign to be self centered and completely self serving?

Just curious.


Do you really need to ask why atheists do good things?  Because treating people like shit is a poor survival strategy.  It's in an individuals best interest to co-operate, simply put, it works for the individual.  It amazes me that morality is even linked to religion considering how immoral and evil religion and it's devotees are.  If you need a reason to treat people well then you are a fucking idiot.  Religion is EVIL and the very antithesis of morality.  Hope this helps.

“Do those people who hold up the Bible as an inspiration to moral rectitude have the slightest notion of what is actually written in it?” ― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

(http://i.imgur.com/67OaYyV.jpg)
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Skorp1o on March 07, 2014, 03:19:08 AM
Ivan please explain to me since when the bat is a bird, I need another good laugh:

11 You may eat any clean bird. 12 But these you may not eat: the eagle, the vulture, the black vulture, 13 the red kite, the black kite, any kind of falcon, 14 any kind of raven, 15 the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk, 16 the little owl, the great owl, the white owl, 17 the desert owl, the osprey, the cormorant, 18 the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Tapeworm on March 07, 2014, 03:41:56 AM
the artists guessed or didn't consider it or didn't care

did adam have nipples?  did jesus have nipples?  I assume so.

I've got nipples for days.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Parker on March 07, 2014, 05:59:45 AM
It sucks that this ivan drago character is the one left defending religious people.

What makes non religious people do good things?

If there is no one to answer to, is that free reign to be self centered and completely self serving?

Just curious.


We become our own Gods, and remember God is a jealous God, with no God above all others...
So we demand that everything is about us, and no one is above us...self centered and self absorbed.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: BigCyp on March 07, 2014, 06:29:55 AM
Lots of fellows 'proving a point' to other anonymous fellows in this thread  ::)
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Darren Avey on March 07, 2014, 10:19:47 AM
Also why did God make so many fucking planets if this is the only one with any fucking life? waste of time?
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Parker on March 07, 2014, 10:21:50 AM
Also why did God make so many fucking planets if this is the only one with any fucking life? waste of time?
You are making an assumption that this is the only one with life, or that other planets never had life on it.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Henda on March 07, 2014, 10:32:23 AM
Eves tits are tiny and her hips are wider than hershoulders, would only hit drunk.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Man of Steel on March 07, 2014, 10:40:22 AM
Ivan please explain to me since when the bat is a bird, I need another good laugh:

11 You may eat any clean bird. 12 But these you may not eat: the eagle, the vulture, the black vulture, 13 the red kite, the black kite, any kind of falcon, 14 any kind of raven, 15 the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk, 16 the little owl, the great owl, the white owl, 17 the desert owl, the osprey, the cormorant, 18 the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat.


Modern classifications of animals are not found in the bible.  Typically animals were grouped or referred to according to their own "kind" in scripture.   That said, it would not be incorrect for the ancient hebraic culture to classify a winged animal (such as a bat) that has movements and hunting abilities similar to a bird within that type of animal kind.   It's not a biblical error, but it certainly is a difference in classification methods of the ancient hebraic culture and today's modern biological animal taxonomy.

In actuality the crux of the verse is about the "cleanliness" of the animals as it refers to the Israelites and their alignment with Jehovah.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2014, 10:47:55 AM
Sky gods, in 2014  :D :-\

Perfect example of evolution going on here. Some dickheads here still believe in their invisible ghost that lives in the sky and spoke a few words and everything appeared, whilst others require a little proof.

If only you weren't raised by religious nuts or had the ability to see past that trash, you'd laugh at yourself for believing something so absurd.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: SamoanIrishman on March 07, 2014, 10:48:55 AM
the artists guessed or didn't consider it or didn't care

did adam have nipples?  did jesus have nipples?  I assume so.

Adam wouldn't but Jesus would have had nipples
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: The Ugly on March 07, 2014, 10:55:12 AM
We become our own Gods, and remember God is a jealous God

How could a perfect being be jealous?
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Darren Avey on March 07, 2014, 11:02:12 AM
Sky gods, in 2014  :D :-\

Perfect example of evolution going on here. Some dickheads here still believe in their invisible ghost that lives in the sky and spoke a few words and everything appeared, whilst others require a little proof.

If only you weren't raised by religious nuts or had the ability to see past that trash, you'd laugh at yourself for believing something so absurd.

THIS
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Man of Steel on March 08, 2014, 06:46:20 PM
Bonjour Bella, E-Kunt's little c u n t.

Just waited patiently.....enjoy the clink.  :)
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: The Ugly on March 08, 2014, 06:50:37 PM
Just waited patiently.....enjoy the clink.  :)

Finally. Thank God?
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Man of Steel on March 08, 2014, 06:54:22 PM
Finally. Thank God?

 :D
Title: Question for the religious
Post by: Big Willy on March 11, 2014, 08:28:32 AM
Why are so many of the religious assholes?
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: the trainer on March 11, 2014, 08:54:34 AM
The funny thing is believing in god has nothing to do with being a good person, I have met christians that where assholes and atheists that where good people and vice versa.
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: Man of Steel on March 11, 2014, 09:02:09 AM
Why are so many of the religious assholes?

General ignorance concerning God and the theology they profess to adhere to.  Many haven't read the bible (if "Christian").  Many don't study the aspects of their faith.  Many don't understand what it means to represent Christ or who Christ is.  Many are simply nominal believers...they claim affiliation with a religion or denomination based soley upon scattered attendance at weekly services.  

When questioned or challenged about their faith their ignorance quickly gets them cornered because they can't answer questions.  In these moments they're often peppered with more questions (often accompanied by derisive facial expressions), they feel inadequate and frustrated (which they are in these situations) and their primary response is to lash out.    

How do I know this with certainty?  Because I used to be one of em.

1 Peter 3:15

15 Instead, you must worship Christ as Lord of your life. And if someone asks about your Christian hope, always be ready to explain it.

Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: gracie bjj on March 11, 2014, 09:43:25 AM
i was following lucifer for awhile last year cause i was very pissed off at god, i was at a very dark place in my life
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: BigCyp on March 11, 2014, 09:49:26 AM
General ignorance concerning God and the theology they profess to adhere to.  Many haven't read the bible (if "Christian").  Many don't study the aspects of their faith.  Many don't understand what it means to represent Christ or who Christ is.  Many are simply nominal believers...they claim affiliation with a religion or denomination based soley upon scattered attendance at weekly services.  

When questioned or challenged about their faith their ignorance quickly gets them cornered because they can't answer questions.  In these moments they're often peppered with more questions (often accompanied by derisive facial expressions), they feel inadequate and frustrated (which they are in these situations) and their primary response is to lash out.    

How do I know this with certainty?  Because I used to be one of em.

1 Peter 3:15

15 Instead, you must worship Christ as Lord of your life. And if someone asks about your Christian hope, always be ready to explain it.



MOS, that verse is referring to being ready to explain our hope to people, not gimmicks.
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 11, 2014, 09:49:58 AM
General ignorance concerning God and the theology they profess to adhere to.  Many haven't read the bible (if "Christian").  Many don't study the aspects of their faith.  Many don't understand what it means to represent Christ or who Christ is.  Many are simply nominal believers...they claim affiliation with a religion or denomination based soley upon scattered attendance at weekly services.  

When questioned or challenged about their faith their ignorance quickly gets them cornered because they can't answer questions.  In these moments they're often peppered with more questions (often accompanied by derisive facial expressions), they feel inadequate and frustrated (which they are in these situations) and their primary response is to lash out.    

How do I know this with certainty?  Because I used to be one of em.

1 Peter 3:15

15 Instead, you must worship Christ as Lord of your life. And if someone asks about your Christian hope, always be ready to explain it.



Mormons really know their religion, just ask one, or don't and you will still be told.

Also, if someone ever has "have a blessed day" on their answering machine, they are going to fuck you.
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: Man of Steel on March 11, 2014, 09:50:33 AM
MOS, that verse is referring to being ready to explain our hope to people, not gimmicks.

 ;)
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 11, 2014, 09:51:42 AM
Here we go again I expect wiggs in around 5 mins to explain.
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: Man of Steel on March 11, 2014, 09:53:54 AM
Mormons really know their religion, just ask one, or don't and you will still be told.

Also, if someone ever has "have a blessed day" on their answering machine, they are going to fuck you.

Your thread contribution is appreciated!
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: BigCyp on March 11, 2014, 10:03:42 AM
PM sent to RON, along with banning my wife from meeting 'Big Willy' again
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: _aj_ on March 11, 2014, 10:04:56 AM
Ok, ok.....here we go......Jon Harridon/Ivan Drago is back.   

How the fuck do these guys get so many throwdown gimmick accounts? My gimmick request has been in the pipe for 5 years!
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: Man of Steel on March 11, 2014, 10:07:25 AM
How the fuck do these guys get so many throwdown gimmick accounts? My gimmick request has been in the pipe for 5 years!

Wish I knew.  I'm not tech savvy enough to know how to catch these fools from the get go.  Guess they know how to do techy stuff with IP addys.
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: Benjamin_pearson on March 11, 2014, 10:47:45 AM
Big willy seems legit
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: alabama ftw on March 11, 2014, 01:13:00 PM
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/11/07/timestopics/RELIGION-TODAY.jpg)
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: alabama ftw on March 11, 2014, 01:19:39 PM
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Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: alabama ftw on March 11, 2014, 01:22:05 PM
(http://www.forgottenword.org/popoff-transferkit.jpg)
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: Parker on March 11, 2014, 01:50:27 PM
i was following lucifer for awhile last year cause i was very pissed off at god, i was at a very dark place in my life
Devilsmile was the same way...
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 11, 2014, 02:05:21 PM
Your thread contribution is appreciated!

Which portion?  The answering machine bit?
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: Man of Steel on March 11, 2014, 02:44:03 PM
i was following lucifer for awhile last year cause i was very pissed off at god, i was at a very dark place in my life

Just curious, but why did you become angry with God?  It's none of my business, but thought I'd ask.
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: OneMoreRep on March 12, 2014, 06:25:18 AM
MOS,

I am sending both religion topics to your board...

"1"
Title: Re: Question for the religious
Post by: Man of Steel on March 12, 2014, 06:27:22 AM
MOS,

I am sending both religion topics to your board...

"1"

Sounds good....I'll give them the attention they deserve.   ;)
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Man of Steel on March 12, 2014, 07:18:22 AM
Also why did God make so many fucking planets if this is the only one with any fucking life? waste of time?

I think most folks that consider this question often align with Carl Sagan's classic comment from his book "Contact" in which he considers the following:

“The universe is a pretty big place. If it's just us, seems like an awful waste of space.”

As a believer I see the vast expanse of the universe and everything in it quite differently than Mr. Sagan (who was not a believer).  

When I see the universe I see the glory of God, but the reality is that the fullness of that glory and power can't be contained within the universe.  Still, I think the vastness we see is meant for us so that we may get some understanding (within our finite existence) of how truly incomprehensible God's power, glory and scope truly are.

Within the scope of humanity's artistic renderings we often find photographs or depictions of nature and space in all it's magnificence, but these artistic portrayals are all merely imitations of God's original handiwork.  People are fascinated by God's work and spend their lives trying to understand it (whether they acknowledge that notion or not).    

I don't see the vastness of the universe and our place within it and see a "waste of space" or a "waste of time".  I see an act of love and purpose.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Man of Steel on March 12, 2014, 07:55:55 AM
Where did Cain's wife come from?

Yes, Cain's wife was his sister.

Genesis 5:4
4 After the birth of Seth, Adam lived another 800 years, and he had other sons and daughters.


I think they decided it must have been his sister. However, after he kills Abel, God sends him away to roam the earth as punishment. Before doing so, He "marks" Cain so that no man can kill him.

What men?

Genesis 1:27-28
27 So God created human beings in his own image.
    In the image of God he created them;
    male and female he created them.

28 Then God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and govern it. Reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, and all the animals that scurry along the ground.”


God told Adam and Eve to have a bunch of kids and fill the earth.

Genesis 5

The Descendants of Adam
5 This is the written account of the descendants of Adam. When God created human beings, he made them to be like himself. 2 He created them male and female, and he blessed them and called them “human.”

3 When Adam was 130 years old, he became the father of a son who was just like him—in his very image. He named his son Seth. 4 After the birth of Seth, Adam lived another 800 years, and he had other sons and daughters. 5 Adam lived 930 years, and then he died.

6 When Seth was 105 years old, he became the father of Enosh. 7 After the birth of Enosh, Seth lived another 807 years, and he had other sons and daughters. 8 Seth lived 912 years, and then he died.

9 When Enosh was 90 years old, he became the father of Kenan. 10 After the birth of Kenan, Enosh lived another 815 years, and he had other sons and daughters. 11 Enosh lived 905 years, and then he died.

12 When Kenan was 70 years old, he became the father of Mahalalel. 13 After the birth of Mahalalel, Kenan lived another 840 years, and he had other sons and daughters. 14 Kenan lived 910 years, and then he died.

15 When Mahalalel was 65 years old, he became the father of Jared. 16 After the birth of Jared, Mahalalel lived another 830 years, and he had other sons and daughters. 17 Mahalalel lived 895 years, and then he died.

18 When Jared was 162 years old, he became the father of Enoch. 19 After the birth of Enoch, Jared lived another 800 years, and he had other sons and daughters. 20 Jared lived 962 years, and then he died.

21 When Enoch was 65 years old, he became the father of Methuselah. 22 After the birth of Methuselah, Enoch lived in close fellowship with God for another 300 years, and he had other sons and daughters. 23 Enoch lived 365 years, 24 walking in close fellowship with God. Then one day he disappeared, because God took him.

25 When Methuselah was 187 years old, he became the father of Lamech. 26 After the birth of Lamech, Methuselah lived another 782 years, and he had other sons and daughters. 27 Methuselah lived 969 years, and then he died.

28 When Lamech was 182 years old, he became the father of a son. 29 Lamech named his son Noah, for he said, “May he bring us relief from our work and the painful labor of farming this ground that the Lord has cursed.” 30 After the birth of Noah, Lamech lived another 595 years, and he had other sons and daughters. 31 Lamech lived 777 years, and then he died.

32 By the time Noah was 500 years old, he was the father of Shem, Ham, and Japheth.


Adam and Eve made a bunch of people and those people made a bunch of people.  There were lots of men that Cain could potentially encounter.

Later, within the ranks of the nation of Israel, God outlawed incestuous relationships that were initially permitted:

Leviticus 18:6-8
6 “You must never have sexual relations with a close relative, for I am the Lord.
7 “Do not violate your father by having sexual relations with your mother. She is your mother; you must not have sexual relations with her.
8 “Do not have sexual relations with any of your father’s wives, for this would violate your father.



Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Man of Steel on March 12, 2014, 08:10:29 AM
Adam wouldn't but Jesus would have had nipples

Yes, you are right.  I was basically pointing out other unusual questions others focus on LOL.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: SamoanIrishman on March 12, 2014, 08:45:04 AM
Also why did God make so many fucking planets if this is the only one with any fucking life? waste of time?

Bible never says that there isn't life on other planets. That isn't the point of the Bible, it is a historical record and life guide with examples of people in situations that made good and bad choices.

Case in point, there is no talk of dinosaurs in the bible either....but we know they existed don't we.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Man of Steel on March 12, 2014, 09:07:24 AM
Bible never says that there isn't life on other planets. That isn't the point of the Bible, it is a historical record and life guide with examples of people in situations that made good and bad choices.

Case in point, there is no talk of dinosaurs in the bible either....but we know they existed don't we.

That depends on how you interpret the following passages on "Behemoth" and "Leviathan":

Job 40:15-24

15 “Take a look at Behemoth,
    which I made, just as I made you.
    It eats grass like an ox.
16 See its powerful loins
    and the muscles of its belly.
17 Its tail is as strong as a cedar.
    The sinews of its thighs are knit tightly together.
18 Its bones are tubes of bronze.
    Its limbs are bars of iron.
19 It is a prime example of God’s handiwork,
    and only its Creator can threaten it.
20 The mountains offer it their best food,
    where all the wild animals play.
21 It lies under the lotus plants,
    hidden by the reeds in the marsh.
22 The lotus plants give it shade
    among the willows beside the stream.
23 It is not disturbed by the raging river,
    not concerned when the swelling Jordan rushes around it.
24 No one can catch it off guard
    or put a ring in its nose and lead it away.


Job 41
The Lord’s Challenge Continues
41 “Can you catch Leviathan with a hook
    or put a noose around its jaw?
2 Can you tie it with a rope through the nose
    or pierce its jaw with a spike?
3 Will it beg you for mercy
    or implore you for pity?
4 Will it agree to work for you,
    to be your slave for life?
5 Can you make it a pet like a bird,
    or give it to your little girls to play with?
6 Will merchants try to buy it
    to sell it in their shops?
7 Will its hide be hurt by spears
    or its head by a harpoon?
8 If you lay a hand on it,
    you will certainly remember the battle that follows.
    You won’t try that again!
9 No, it is useless to try to capture it.
    The hunter who attempts it will be knocked down.
10 And since no one dares to disturb it,
    who then can stand up to me?
11 Who has given me anything that I need to pay back?
    Everything under heaven is mine.

12 “I want to emphasize Leviathan’s limbs
    and its enormous strength and graceful form.
13 Who can strip off its hide,
    and who can penetrate its double layer of armor?
14 Who could pry open its jaws?
    For its teeth are terrible!
15 Its scales are like rows of shields
    tightly sealed together.
16 They are so close together
    that no air can get between them.
17 Each scale sticks tight to the next.
    They interlock and cannot be penetrated.

18 “When it sneezes, it flashes light!
    Its eyes are like the red of dawn.
19 Lightning leaps from its mouth;
    flames of fire flash out.
20 Smoke streams from its nostrils
    like steam from a pot heated over burning rushes.
21 Its breath would kindle coals,
    for flames shoot from its mouth.

22 “The tremendous strength in Leviathan’s neck
    strikes terror wherever it goes.
23 Its flesh is hard and firm
    and cannot be penetrated.
24 Its heart is hard as rock,
    hard as a millstone.
25 When it rises, the mighty are afraid,
    gripped by terror.
26 No sword can stop it,
    no spear, dart, or javelin.
27 Iron is nothing but straw to that creature,
    and bronze is like rotten wood.
28 Arrows cannot make it flee.
    Stones shot from a sling are like bits of grass.
29 Clubs are like a blade of grass,
    and it laughs at the swish of javelins.
30 Its belly is covered with scales as sharp as glass.
    It plows up the ground as it drags through the mud.

31 “Leviathan makes the water boil with its commotion.
    It stirs the depths like a pot of ointment.
32 The water glistens in its wake,
    making the sea look white.
33 Nothing on earth is its equal,
    no other creature so fearless.
34 Of all the creatures, it is the proudest.
    It is the king of beasts.”


Most young earth creationists refer to these passages as speaking of dinosaurs while most old earth creationists speak of these passages as referring to elephants/hippos and large crocodiles.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: SamoanIrishman on March 12, 2014, 12:51:57 PM
lights and fire when sneezing? Scales ...sounds like they were describing a dragon more than a dinosaur.

Though I did read most thought it was possibly a Hippo being described as it was found in the waters of Jordan. Also reeds and tree shade is a favorite habitat of these animals and it does eat vegetable matter and the latter a crocodile as you mentioned.
Title: Re: A Question For Religious People
Post by: Man of Steel on March 12, 2014, 01:08:39 PM
lights and fire when sneezing? Scales ...sounds like they were describing a dragon more than a dinosaur.

Though I did read most thought it was possibly a Hippo being described as it was found in the waters of Jordan. Also reeds and tree shade is a favorite habitat of these animals and it does eat vegetable matter and the latter a crocodile as you mentioned.

Exactly, Leviathan is described as fire-breathing dragon, but I don't know if the author (perhaps Job's friend Elihu) was was using symbolic language....I just don't know.  Me personally, I'm an old earth creationist and I tend to read hippo and crocodile into that.