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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: THEIGF-1MAN on March 12, 2014, 01:56:03 PM
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Hey guys,
This is my first post here and as you can see from my handle I love IGF-1 and consider my self a specialist with it. I post on ironmagazine forums and wanted to share my blog here too. The account set up on getbig took forever so this blog is delayed from the original on ironmagazine. Nevertheless, here's a copy paste.
Ok guys, Ive been getting requests to post my IGF-1 blog, as you can see from my handle I love my IGF-1 and I would consider my self an expert and specialist in IGF-1 because Ive been using it since the 90s. I was one of the first to get it from Gropep Australia in the 90s when they first developed and patented the product. Since then Ive sourced it through stem cell researchers here in the US and other contacts. Let me first stipulate Im not a scientist, and Im only interested in "real world applications." I don't care what works for others or what looks good on paper or in theory, everyone on the internet simply regurgitates what they heard or read on the internet. Very few users have actually used real igf-1 and secondly most users do not apply it correctly or long enough. Personally I don't do 4 week cycles, I do 8 week cycles. Because I feel 4 weeks is way too short considering IGF-1 creates new muscle cells and tissues so why seize it at the 4 week mark when those new muscle cells and gains are developing? Four weeks is not enough time to solidify permanent gains. Eight weeks is more appropriate and realistic to solidify those gains as the new muscle cells(nerve cells and bone cells) have reached more maturity. Again this is what works for me, so don't come here into my thread and tell me what works for me and what doesn't work for me. If you disagree with my opinion and experiences that's fine, we can agree to disagree. But don't bother with the pissing contest here because I'm not going to be skewed, as I have been using this stuff while guys were still in high school or middle school. Ive administered it to pro's, discussed it with stem cell scientists etc. The purpose of this thread is to post and blog my experiences, to educate and help others. Again I repeat, I'm posting strictly from my real world experiences. I don't care about your research or theories. Its very easy for everyone to be the internet guru and expert behind their PC. Im only interested in what has worked for me and regenerated all my tissues and muscle. Hope this helps.....
Ok, my boy who's a pro(did very well recently) got me 10mg of Long R3 from gasantiaging.com, he swears by their IGF-1, its what he uses. Anyway, he got me onto their product. I didn't pay for it cause he owed me and we help each other out. I'm trialing the product and blogging it here. Will blog everything- good and bad side effects, lets see if it lives up to his hype? He knows I'm an IGF-1 specialist lol.
I have no affiliations or associations to any suppliers, sources or peptide companies. I simply care what is best for me and my body and Im only concerned with real IGF-1. Don't care from whom.
I want to keep the cycle and blog simple, not complicated as they say KIS(Keep It Simple). Im not going to get into fancy scientific words and theories, Im going to keep this very realistic and practical so the average Joe benefits.'
BLOG:
Thus far today 2/25/14 I have 10 x 1mg vials ready to start. Will be taking 100mcg/day cause I want to feel this thing right away!
Then I can drop down if its too strong. I have my first bottle mixed, 50/50 AA/BA. Will be pinning IM in delts, legs and injuries.
Diet will be high protein and enough carbs to prevent hypoglycemia which is common with IGF-1. I usually go hypo in 30min after an IM shot. Will do 50mcg am before training and 50mcg pm after training. Priority is fat loss(which always happens to me with IGF), pure lean muscle(new muscle cells) and improved healing of nagging injuries(shoulder,knee). Im not taking anything else(at all) with this IGF-1, this way I can pinpoint all the effects without any interference from anything else. Will be taking my first shot in a few hours.
My commencing stats 245lbs/6 ft/12% BF.
Will keep you all posted.....
PM's welcome too. Here to help.....
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The latest blog today is:
Sorry for the delayed reply, cycle is surprisingly going very well considering Im not training hard. Im training consistently but not as intense(giving my body a break). Thus far Im up to 249.7 lbs(on digital scales) and BF @ 8.2%. So this is significant taking into account my commencing stats and I haven't been training at 100%. So far Ive been on for just over 2 wks. Im impressed with this IGF-1. I was using the original back in the 90s from Gropep(which cost a fortune) and this is just as good. Will keep you posted.
Will blog up to date here on getbig too from now.
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Spam detected ::)
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Sweet! Where can I buy this "IGF-1?"
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Sweet! Where can I buy this "IGF-1?"
Funny you should ask.wouldn't you know in his first post he told us where he got hooked up from his "buddy" the pro.
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The latest blog today is:
Sorry for the delayed reply, cycle is surprisingly going very well considering Im not training hard. Im training consistently but not as intense(giving my body a break). Thus far Im up to 249.7 lbs(on digital scales) and BF @ 8.2%. So this is significant taking into account my commencing stats and I haven't been training at 100%. So far Ive been on for just over 2 wks. Im impressed with this IGF-1. I was using the original back in the 90s from Gropep(which cost a fortune) and this is just as good. Will keep you posted.
Will blog up to date here on getbig too from now.
$450 for a mg?
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blablabla.
numbers.
talk less, post pics to see.
didnt read btw
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blablabla.
numbers.
talk less, post pics to see.
didnt read btw
;D
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Sweet! Where can I buy this "IGF-1?"
http://www.increlex.com/patient-home.asp
Literally the only place where you can buy real igf1
If you have a dwarf child, that is
Lol,at "igf" , oh brother... ::)
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http://www.increlex.com/patient-home.asp
Literally the only place where you can buy real igf1
If you have a dwarf child, that is
Lol,at "igf" , oh brother... ::)
yeah ,i mean the shitty chinese hgh is one thing, but the igf thing is whole other level.
where do they amke it haha.
what are they using.oh brother.
and wheres the before after transformatuon pic, which will all be diet related or steroid related gains,losses anyway.
sure sure, igf,the next magical drug, effortless gains and all.
250lbs at so and so bodyfat.
wow brutal numbers,
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everybody says igf1 isn't igf1.
well, I've used everything else that it "could" be, and can tell it isn't.
so, if it's not igf1.. what is it?
nobody can EVER answer it... if anybody would know, I think I would know.
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Sweet! Where can I buy this "IGF-1?"
My guy ordered it from gasantiaging.com
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$450 for a mg?
That's because they had the patent on it.
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Only places I know who make real IGF-1 LR3 are gropep(too expensive), gasantiging.com(currently using, very good), propeptides.net(used previously, works well). All 3 are for research use only- but very effective . INCRELEX is the only prescription version in the US, but it's not the Long R3 version(which is best). The Chinese don't make real IGF-1, most of all the igf-1 advertised on forums is relabeled GHRP and other cheaper peptides. Which are identical in appearance to IGF1.
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Only places I know who make real IGF-1 LR3 are gropep(too expensive), gasantiging.com(currently using, very good), propeptides.net(used previously, works well). All 3 are for research use only- but very effective . INCRELEX is the only prescription version in the US, but it's not the Long R3 version(which is best). The Chinese don't make real IGF-1, most of all the igf-1 advertised on forums is relabeled GHRP and other cheaper peptides. Which are identical in appearance to IGF1.
I seriously doubt that. having used the ghrp/ghrh and all variants... the igf that I have, and that I've used, is nothing like the ghrp/ghrh's I've used.
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I wrote GHRP and other cheaper peptides.
Real IGF-1 is only made by very few producers due to licensing, everyone else is either a reseller(of IGF-1) or counterfeiter.
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If you're very lucky, it could be an incomplete peptide, the equivalent of a knock off Gucci handbag made in a sweatshop in Beijing
this stuff is incredibly fragile and hard to synthesize , there's a reason the legit stuff is so insanely expensive
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yo igf1 man haha, youre injecting some garbage thats doing nothing.
hope this helps.
why are bullshitters arolwed to run rampant here?
wheres the pics?
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I wrote GHRP and other cheaper peptides.
Real IGF-1 is only made by very few producers due to licensing, everyone else is either a reseller(of IGF-1) or counterfeiter.
you can't license a hormone.
it's like licensing cancer.. or estrogen.. or dopamine.. or testosterone... or cholesterol...
it's a peptide hormone.. made the same way insulin is.. the same way hgh is.. ect...
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If you're very lucky, it could be an incomplete peptide, the equivalent of a knock off Gucci handbag made in a sweatshop in Beijing
this stuff is incredibly fragile and hard to synthesize , there's a reason the legit stuff is so insanely expensive
correct
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you can't license a hormone.
it's like licensing cancer.. or estrogen.. or dopamine.. or testosterone... or cholesterol...
it's a peptide hormone.. made the same way insulin is.. the same way hgh is.. ect...
These hormones are synthetically produced by pharmaceutical companies. Therefore yes you can license and patent a synthetic hormone.
Licensing rights comes in the form of patents and trademarks.
Some examples are:
Genetech license and patent to Protropin.
Pfeizer license to Genotropin.
Lilly license and patent to Humatrope hgh.
Lilly license and patent to Humalog and Humulin-R insulins.
Novo Nordisk license to Norditorpin.
Serono license to Saizen.
Schering license and patent to Proviron, Primobolan-Depot.
Organon license and patent to sustanon250, Deca-Durabolin.
Gropep license and patent to IGF-1
Increlex license to IGF-1.
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These hormones are synthetically produced by pharmaceutical companies. Therefore yes you can license and patent a synthetic hormone.
Licensing rights comes in the form of patents and trademarks.
Some examples are:
Genetech license and patent to Protropin.
Pfeizer license to Genotropin.
Lilly license and patent to Humatrope hgh.
Lilly license and patent to Humalog and Humulin-R insulins.
Novo Nordisk license to Norditorpin.
Serono license to Saizen.
Schering license and patent to Proviron, Primobolan-Depot.
Organon license and patent to sustanon250, Deca-Durabolin.
Gropep license and patent to IGF-1
Increlex license to IGF-1.
And not a shit fuck was given that day
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These hormones are synthetically produced by pharmaceutical companies. Therefore yes you can license and patent a synthetic hormone.
Licensing rights comes in the form of patents and trademarks.
Some examples are:
Genetech license and patent to Protropin.
Pfeizer license to Genotropin.
Lilly license and patent to Humatrope hgh.
Lilly license and patent to Humalog and Humulin-R insulins.
Novo Nordisk license to Norditorpin.
Serono license to Saizen.
Schering license and patent to Proviron, Primobolan-Depot.
Organon license and patent to sustanon250, Deca-Durabolin.
Gropep license and patent to IGF-1
Increlex license to IGF-1.
those are brand names, not the hormone.
gh is a chain of 191 amino acids ,nothing more.
you're replicating that chain, plus fillers like manitol and stuff to keep it stable after it's lyophilized, nothing more.. you're not replicating "Serostim" or "novolin-R" or whatever.
you cannot replicate a hormone, the same way you cannot license caffine.. you CAN license/trademark/copywrite/whatever Ultimate Orange/1MR/Jack3D/Dark Rage/ect... it's not the same thing.
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ESFitness is correct, you can't patent a hormone. You can patent a process (I believe Lily did this with Humatrope).
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Igfman do us all a favour and inject 3ml of air into a vein.
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Igfman do us all a favour and inject 3ml of air into a vein.
won't do anything... even 10ml of air.
back to the chemical in the topic... I actually liked all the igf1 I've ever used. I especially liked it about a year ago when it was cheaper.. now it seems to have creeped up a lil in price and for the price of 30days of 200mcg/day, even 100mcg/day, I can get gh for the same price and run 4iu/day.
20days of 100mcg igf1 = 140$
20days of 5iu gh/day = $120 wholesale/$200-260 retail depending on what gh you get.
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those are brand names, not the hormone.
gh is a chain of 191 amino acids ,nothing more.
you're replicating that chain, plus fillers like manitol and stuff to keep it stable after it's lyophilized, nothing more.. you're not replicating "Serostim" or "novolin-R" or whatever.
you cannot replicate a hormone, the same way you cannot license caffine.. you CAN license/trademark/copywrite/whatever Ultimate Orange/1MR/Jack3D/Dark Rage/ect... it's not the same thing.
You are either not reading correctly or not understanding. Yes a pharmaceutical company can patent any synthetic hormone or drug it produces. All pharmaceutical companies do this. Lilly was the first to synthesize HGH in 1984 identical to human 191AA so they had the 10yr patent under the registered brand Humatrope, licensed with the FDA. Genetech was the first to synthesize 192AA in 1982 they branded it Protropin and licnesed it with the FDA with a 10yr patent. Gropep was the first to synthesize IGF-1 in the 90s so they held the patent and registration for 10yrs. And so on and so on with all the registered brands I listed previously.
The products I listed previously are all registered and I stipulated which ones held the patents. Re-read it.
You are misunderstanding(confusing natural hormones with identically produced synthetic hormones) or you are simply ignorant not understanding that any drug company that synthesizes a hormone identical to the natural hormone will own the patent, mark and license. We can list the patent, license numbers too.
We are not talking about caffeine, orange etc which are foods and classified under foods to the FDA.
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won't do anything... even 10ml of air.
Ignorant fool get out of my thread and blog.
You were completely contradicted based on your ignorance, rather then having the knowledge and intelligence to support your argument you resort to pathetic childish comments. Ignorant troll.
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Igfman do us all a favour and inject 3ml of air into a vein.
Fuck off Troll.
Get out of my thread.
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Ignorant fool get out of my thread and blog.
You were completely contradicted based on your ignorance, rather then having the knowledge and intelligence to support your argument you resort to pathetic childish comments. Ignorant troll.
ok you dick sucking fagg ot.
you're in my book.
you're a fucking 155lbs twig con-man trying to shill igf here.
you insult the intelligence of anybody who reads your "blog"... btw.. where exactly is your "blog"?? I dont' see you posting any usefull, unique experience here.
sure, I'm in the business.. but you don't see me 'blogging' and hyping products to sell them.
if anybody is qualified to write a 'blog' about igf1 here, it's fucking me guy.. you fucking fake phony wannabe camel jockey con-man.
go set up a shop at your flee-market next to your cousin and stick to businesses you might be successful at.. like building bombs and making campfires with dried camel shit.
fucking clown.
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ok you dick sucking fagg ot.
you're in my book.
you're a fucking 155lbs twig con-man trying to shill igf here.
you insult the intelligence of anybody who reads your "blog"... btw.. where exactly is your "blog"?? I dont' see you posting any usefull, unique experience here.
sure, I'm in the business.. but you don't see me 'blogging' and hyping products to sell them.
if anybody is qualified to write a 'blog' about igf1 here, it's fucking me guy.. you fucking fake phony wannabe camel jockey con-man.
go set up a shop at your flee-market next to your cousin and stick to businesses you might be successful at.. like building bombs and making campfires with dried camel shit.
fucking clown.
ES breaking this pretender off.
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esf sending igfgman packing :D
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esf sending igfgman packing :D
maybe he should go and try and hustle one of the dumber boards.
maybe bb.com will have him?
getbig is too smart for this nonsense.
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I think that the best people will get when they buy IGF-1 is some low quality HCG or perhaps rat insulin or some shit. It's not easy to produce and that's why we see all these fakes and shitty imitations.
It's easier and cheaper to make AAS. That's why we see a marketplace full of it. But I'm convinced that almost all IGF-1 out there is fake or shit. No one should be wasting their money on this shit.
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Hey guys,
This is my first post here and as you can see from my handle I love IGF-1 and consider my self a specialist with it. I post on ironmagazine forums and wanted to share my blog here too. The account set up on getbig took forever so this blog is delayed from the original on ironmagazine. Nevertheless, here's a copy paste.
Ok guys, Ive been getting requests to post my IGF-1 blog, as you can see from my handle I love my IGF-1 and I would consider my self an expert and specialist in IGF-1 because Ive been using it since the 90s. I was one of the first to get it from Gropep Australia in the 90s when they first developed and patented the product. Since then Ive sourced it through stem cell researchers here in the US and other contacts. Let me first stipulate Im not a scientist, and Im only interested in "real world applications." I don't care what works for others or what looks good on paper or in theory, everyone on the internet simply regurgitates what they heard or read on the internet. Very few users have actually used real igf-1 and secondly most users do not apply it correctly or long enough. Personally I don't do 4 week cycles, I do 8 week cycles. Because I feel 4 weeks is way too short considering IGF-1 creates new muscle cells and tissues so why seize it at the 4 week mark when those new muscle cells and gains are developing? Four weeks is not enough time to solidify permanent gains. Eight weeks is more appropriate and realistic to solidify those gains as the new muscle cells(nerve cells and bone cells) have reached more maturity. Again this is what works for me, so don't come here into my thread and tell me what works for me and what doesn't work for me. If you disagree with my opinion and experiences that's fine, we can agree to disagree. But don't bother with the pissing contest here because I'm not going to be skewed, as I have been using this stuff while guys were still in high school or middle school. Ive administered it to pro's, discussed it with stem cell scientists etc. The purpose of this thread is to post and blog my experiences, to educate and help others. Again I repeat, I'm posting strictly from my real world experiences. I don't care about your research or theories. Its very easy for everyone to be the internet guru and expert behind their PC. Im only interested in what has worked for me and regenerated all my tissues and muscle. Hope this helps.....
Ok, my boy who's a pro(did very well recently) got me 10mg of Long R3 from gasantiaging.com, he swears by their IGF-1, its what he uses. Anyway, he got me onto their product. I didn't pay for it cause he owed me and we help each other out. I'm trialing the product and blogging it here. Will blog everything- good and bad side effects, lets see if it lives up to his hype? He knows I'm an IGF-1 specialist lol.
I have no affiliations or associations to any suppliers, sources or peptide companies. I simply care what is best for me and my body and Im only concerned with real IGF-1. Don't care from whom.
I want to keep the cycle and blog simple, not complicated as they say KIS(Keep It Simple). Im not going to get into fancy scientific words and theories, Im going to keep this very realistic and practical so the average Joe benefits.'
BLOG:
Thus far today 2/25/14 I have 10 x 1mg vials ready to start. Will be taking 100mcg/day cause I want to feel this thing right away!
Then I can drop down if its too strong. I have my first bottle mixed, 50/50 AA/BA. Will be pinning IM in delts, legs and injuries.
Diet will be high protein and enough carbs to prevent hypoglycemia which is common with IGF-1. I usually go hypo in 30min after an IM shot. Will do 50mcg am before training and 50mcg pm after training. Priority is fat loss(which always happens to me with IGF), pure lean muscle(new muscle cells) and improved healing of nagging injuries(shoulder,knee). Im not taking anything else(at all) with this IGF-1, this way I can pinpoint all the effects without any interference from anything else. Will be taking my first shot in a few hours.
My commencing stats 245lbs/6 ft/12% BF.
Will keep you all posted.....
PM's welcome too. Here to help.....
Mods should make it so people with 100 post or less cant post on this steroid board