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(CNSNews.com) -- Taxpayers earning $100,000 or more a year pay 71.6% of the nation’s share in individual federal income taxes, according to the latest data from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) from 2011.
These data do not include corporate income taxes, or taxes on capital gains or dividends, or payroll taxes for Social Security and other programs.
In 2011, according to the IRS, there were 145,370,240 individual income tax returns filed. Among those returns, 125,914,418 or 86.6%, belonged to taxpayers earning a salary less than $100,000. The remaining 19,455,822 returns belonged to those taxpayers earning more than $100,000, or 13.4% of the total.
While those top earners, earning six figures or more, represented only 13.4% of the total number of individual income tax returns reported to the IRS, they contributed nearly three-fourths of the total amount of federal tax revenue from individual filers reported for that year.
US Capitol
Dome of the U.S. Capitol. (AP photo)
In 2011, the IRS collected $1,088,559,743,000 based on taxpayers' taxable income. From that total, 71.6%, or $779,547,834,000 came from those taxpayers earning six figures or more. Only 28.4%, or $308,816,180,000, came from those earning less than $100,000.
The IRS has been posting these tax data online since 1996, when the share of the nation’s tax-burden (on individual income) held by six-figure earners was 51%. Since then, the share of the nation’s taxes paid by six-figure earners has increased, peaking (so far) in 2007 when top earners paid 72.6% of the nation’s individual income taxes.
Those individual income taxes, $1.08 trillion, comprised 47% of the federal government's revenue in fiscal year 2011, which was $2.3 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office. The balance came from employment or social insurance taxes (36%); corporate income taxes (8%); excise taxes (3%); custom duties (0.3%); and miscellaneous receipts (4%). (See Historical Budget Data.xls and CBO Budget Outlook.pdf)
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$100K isn't even that much money any more. Subsistence wage.
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EXTENSIONS.... ;D
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Yes this is bullshit. I get hit more in taxes than what some people get as a paycheck. I need to buy some property soon as I have absolutely no write offs to offset some of the tax hit.
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holy mother of christ fishing in a pond, 72%? Why even bother working. Thats fucking insane
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should be glad we have the opportunity to earn more than $100k
or something
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holy mother of christ fishing in a pond, 72%? Why even bother working. Thats fucking insane
I think you are misreading this. They don't pay $72k.
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I think you are misreading this. They don't pay $72k.
I took his misreading as thinking a 72% tax rate....
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Thanks for paying my salary check ;D ;D ;D
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Ron can we have a Chartered Accountancy Board?
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90k+ is the new actual middle class line so no shit Sherlock.
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Actually very few people come close percentage wise to 90K. I bet 95% of get big members make under 50K. If you are talking about a husband and wife combined making 90K that is another statistic. If as an individual you are making 100K in most areas of the country you can lead a good life. In parts of California, NJ, NY and Connecticut you would be struggling to make ends meet with that. In rural states like Tennessee you would be relatively rich.
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Actually very few people come close percentage wise to 90K. I bet 95% of get big members make under 50K. If you are talking about a husband and wife combined making 90K that is another statistic. If as an individual you are making 100K in most areas of the country you can lead a good life. In parts of California, NJ, NY and Connecticut you would be struggling to make ends meet with that. In rural states like Tennessee you would be relatively rich.
Nah... Even in the Suburban LA area, if you make 100K you are doing alright.
I mean, you're not rich, but you're getting by just fine.
Now NYC... especially Manhattan... Yeah... That's a struggle, and of course if you're trying to live in Beverly Hills or something, but you're not doing too badly in 99.99% of the places in America.
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figure the majority of ppl making 100k are still in debt at least a few times that in student loans.
100k is all relative.
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figure the majority of ppl making 100k are still in debt at least a few times that in student loans.
100k is all relative.
Yup. Single with 100k, you're probably all right. Married with kids, and the whole thing changes. Geo region is key here too.
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90k+ is the new actual middle class line so no shit Sherlock.
Middle class? My friend, on 90k I wouldn't even be able to look after my dog if it was just me and him. To be the SOLE breadwinner for a family of 4, pay all the bills and buy food, live in a nice area away from human garbage, run 2 cars and go on holiday once or twice a year you're looking at 150-200 MINIMUM. Between the girlfriend and myself we're hitting around 230 a year. And believe me, we don't live it up.
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Middle class? My friend, on 90k I wouldn't even be able to look after my dog if it was just me and him. To be the SOLE breadwinner for a family of 4, pay all the bills and buy food, live in a nice area away from human garbage, run 2 cars and go on holiday once or twice a year you're looking at 150-200 MINIMUM. Between the girlfriend and myself we're hitting around 230 a year. And believe me, we don't live it up.
Serious, I'm low sixes , married, two cars and after mortgage, cost of living etc there's not much left
But I live in the liberal utopia of the Bay Area where we "help" illegals and career shitbags by paying endless taxes.
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how is avesher interpreting this thread exactly? lets help him
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Cars are a poor indicator of wealth.
except cars over a million dollars ??? ???
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Cars are a poor indicator of wealth.
Not the one anabolic posted up.
Easily 1 million plus ;D
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The United States of Halliburton can suck my mother fucking dick.
Sounds expensive.
I earn far over 100k here in NZ and I pay 33% .. I think. Well that's what the government website claims.
Actually, thinking about it now. I better fucking go and check my pay slip.
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And in New Mexico the Republican Governor just issued an executive order making it illegal to use welfare debit cards to withdraw cash in liqueur stores and strip joints. A similar bill was just voted down by the Democratic state majority. I shit you not....
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Nah... Even in the Suburban LA area, if you make 100K you are doing alright.
I mean, you're not rich, but you're getting by just fine.
Now NYC... especially Manhattan... Yeah... That's a struggle, and of course if you're trying to live in Beverly Hills or something, but you're not doing too badly in 99.99% of the places in America.
Exactly... when I'm looking for common sense, I look for tu_'s posts.
I like how every other poster on here spits on 100-150k lol... of course they're all in the mil club.
A majority of people lie about their income;
A) they're embarrassed.
B) they're embarrassed. The 1%er bullshit created that mentality (not of peace)
Reality is, regardless of where you live, if you can afford to have the wife stay at home, own that said home and aren't living paycheck to paycheck AND posting on getbig, you're doing just fine.
Life is a balance. know your equilibrium.
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Exactly... when I'm looking for common sense, I look for tu_'s posts.
I like how every other poster on here spits on 100-150k lol... of course they're all in the mil club.
A majority of people lie about their income;
A) they're embarrassed.
B) they're embarrassed. The 1%er bullshit created that mentality (not of peace)
Reality is, regardless of where you live, if you can afford to have the wife stay at home, own that said home and aren't living paycheck to paycheck AND posting on getbig, you're doing just fine.
Life is a balance. know your equilibrium.
Earn 100k a year where I am, with a wife and kid at home and let me know how you get on.
At least the noodles you'll be dining on have a decent amount of carbs 8)
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Earn 100k a year where I am, with a wife and kid at home and let me know how you get on.
At least the noodles you'll be dining on have a decent amount of carbs 8)
Which metro area do you live in James?
I guess it's easy for me to say but I would sacrifice a lot to make sure my kids have a solid environment and aren't raised by daycare strangers. Kinda stuff you can't buyback later. (no chromohomo)
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Those of you who don't understand what money is don't know how to shelter it or invest it. Thus you pay taxes through the nose. If you are indeed making 100k or more (which you're not) you should have your wealth managed.
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Those of you who don't understand what money is don't know how to shelter it or invest it. Thus you pay taxes through the nose. If you are indeed making 100k or more (which you're not) you should have your wealth managed.
You sound like quite the Wolverine of WallStreet looking down on "us".
Carebear to share some "tricks" with us Gordon Gayko>?
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Middle class? My friend, on 90k I wouldn't even be able to look after my dog if it was just me and him. To be the SOLE breadwinner for a family of 4, pay all the bills and buy food, live in a nice area away from human garbage, run 2 cars and go on holiday once or twice a year you're looking at 150-200 MINIMUM. Between the girlfriend and myself we're hitting around 230 a year. And believe me, we don't live it up.
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money management of peace
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Nah... Even in the Suburban LA area, if you make 100K you are doing alright.
I mean, you're not rich, but you're getting by just fine.
Now NYC... especially Manhattan... Yeah... That's a struggle, and of course if you're trying to live in Beverly Hills or something, but you're not doing too badly in 99.99% of the places in America.
Don't see you around here much anymore. Do you still post on MD?
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Which metro area do you live in James?
I guess it's easy for me to say but I would sacrifice a lot to make sure my kids have a solid environment and aren't raised by daycare strangers. Kinda stuff you can't buyback later. (no chromohomo)
I would like to know this answer as well.
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Middle class? My friend, on 90k I wouldn't even be able to look after my dog if it was just me and him. To be the SOLE breadwinner for a family of 4, pay all the bills and buy food, live in a nice area away from human garbage, run 2 cars and go on holiday once or twice a year you're looking at 150-200 MINIMUM. Between the girlfriend and myself we're hitting around 230 a year. And believe me, we don't live it up.
LOLOLOLOL.. of course you are... no offense chief but unless you live downtown NYC or SFO, have a massive coke habit, it's mathematically impossible to not have decent disposable at 230k.
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man - some of you people seriously lack comprehension skills - it says that 72% of tax comes from 100K+ NOT that people on 100K+ are paying 72%.
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LOLOLOLOL.. of course you are... no offense chief but unless you live downtown NYC or SFO, have a massive coke habit, it's mathematically impossible to not have decent disposable at 230k.
Haha. That made me chuckle. ;D
What do you know about my expenses 'chief' :P
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man - some of you people seriously lack comprehension skills - it says that 72% of tax comes from 100K+ NOT that people on 100K+ are paying 72%.
No shit. Obviously we know that.
I believe our dear OP also once made a post asking in seriousness whether people in Denmark paid 150% tax :-\
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Oh and before people pounce, we're saving as the girlfriend want to get married and have a baby soon, giving up work in the process. So we're squirreling away like mad. Once her income is out of the equation, we go down to being very middle class again. In a city where the house prices are at historic highs along with historic shortage (Christchurch NZ). And here's the kicker, we're still renting. I still need to buy (though I still have my place in the UK). So I guess I have no reason being out there every night snorting coke off hookers' tits. I just like wasting away the odd few hundred at the slot machines 8)
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Those of you who don't understand what money is don't know how to shelter it or invest it. Thus you pay taxes through the nose. If you are indeed making 100k or more (which you're not) you should have your wealth managed.
Brutal thinking a 100k is a lot of money in 2014 (unless living in Anus, Idaho). Epic not realizing that plumbers and electricians earn that. Mega thinking that you're going to turn up at Goldman Sachs with your 4-6k a month take-home salary and think you're going to get face time with a 'wealth manager'. :-\
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What really sucks is when you pay well over 100k in income taxes, pay quarterly taxes and still get audited!
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What really sucks is when you pay well over 100k in income taxes, pay quarterly taxes and still get audited!
Then you must be on a decent screw. Back in the UK I heard from a 'revenue inspector' that unless you're earning more than 250k a year, they're hardly interest in you.
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Haha. That made me chuckle. ;D
What do you know about my expenses 'chief' :P
Hey no harm intended, colonel Sargent. .. ppl tend to lie a lot about their income and hurtfully believe it.
More power to you. The American way, be happy about a brother's prosperity. Quite different from euros.
Question remains... what's the average household income in your neck of the woods?
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I pay quarterly estimates. I had a good year this year and have to pay an additional $19,367. Brutal ownage on the part of the IRS. :-\
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I pay quarterly estimates. I had a good year this year and have to pay an additional $19,367. Brutal ownage on the part of the IRS. :-\
A lot of Obama voters are depending on you!
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Hey no harm intended, colonel Sargent. .. ppl tend to lie a lot about their income and hurtfully believe it.
More power to you. The American way, be happy about a brother's prosperity. Quite different from euros.
Question remains... what's the average household income in your neck of the woods?
Funny you should ask. Read yesterday that's it's around 74k, but that might be a bit low. Read here, taking into a account it's 2013 figures. Heaps and heaps of jobs available here so employers can't take the piss. So at 74k and mom and dad both works. The maths = easy.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/8144749/Christchurch-wages-show-big-increase
Remember, this is NZ Dollar so not sure how it compares to Yank $$$. I don't know the average country wide. All I know is that I'm getting gouged HARD on rent and food prices are very dear. I only came here as I got a good offer. Otherwise I'd be in your neck of the woods or Oz. Or Canada.
To be brutally honest, it's all earthquake money. Had that not happened I'd still be in London slaving for peanuts.
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except cars over a million dollars ??? ???
but according to you, you need to be a 'millionaire' (do you even know what a 'millionaire' is? lol) to drive an S-Class Mercedes.
lol
you can have a garage with an 09 S63, a 997 C4S, a 360 Modena, for just over $150k the first two less than 45k miles and the Ferrari less than 25k.
that's only $30k out of pocket if you only put down 20%.
maybe if you quit spending your sons money on your black crack hookers you too, could drive an S550.
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Funny you should ask. Read yesterday that's it's around 74k, but that might be a bit low. Read here, taking into a account it's 2013 figures. Heaps and heaps of jobs available here so employers can't take the piss. So at 74k and mom and dad both works. The maths = easy.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/8144749/Christchurch-wages-show-big-increase
Remember, this is NZ Dollar so not sure how it compares to Yank $$$. I don't know the average country wide. All I know is that I'm getting gouged HARD on rent and food prices are very dear. I only came here as I got a good offer. Otherwise I'd be in your neck of the woods or Oz. Or Canada.
To be brutally honest, it's all earthquake money. Had that not happened I'd still be in London slaving for peanuts.
Well thanks for your honesty james. Hope you prosper and enjoy llife. Word of advice, lavish weddies sound cool on paper but buy a house instead :). Ownership ♢ liberation.
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but according to you, you need to be a 'millionaire' (do you even know what a 'millionaire' is? lol) to drive an S-Class Mercedes.
lol
you can have a garage with an 09 S63, a 997 C4S, a 360 Modena, for just over $150k the first two less than 45k miles and the Ferrari less than 25k.
that's only $30k out of pocket if you only put down 20%.
maybe if you quit spending your sons money on your black crack hookers you too, could drive an S550.
I think a lot of us talk about buying a car outright and not make expensive payments every month where you get bent over a barrel with interest payments. I'd rather wait until I've saved the money before buying the car.
Come to think of it, it's probably why I've always driven shit cars.
Not that cars matter all the much to me :-\
Bugatti's are nice though.
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Well thanks for your honesty james. Hope you prosper and enjoy llife. Word of advice, lavish weddies sound cool on paper but buy a house instead :). Ownership ♢ liberation.
My friend, I hear you so loud and clear it's scary. It's as if you're sitting next to me.
There's a big argument going on in the 'James' household about the price of engagement rings. All the friends are rocking 20 grand rings (at hefty interest rates) She's not happy with anything less. I'm thinking 2k max (I'm thinking $100 max), she's countering with 15k. Neither of us willing to move on price. So there might not be a wedding any time soon to argue over.
I may try and make light of this but she's pulling out the 'I'll wear it for the rest of my life' and 'don't you want me to have the ring I really desire?' or 'We're only doing this once' arguments.
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Then you must be on a decent screw. Back in the UK I heard from a 'revenue inspector' that unless you're earning more than 250k a year, they're hardly interest in you.
The one was a pain because it was expense related so very time consuming and the next was options related. Of course they took place after our new president took office. >:(
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(CNSNews.com) -- Taxpayers earning $100,000 or more a year pay 71.6% of the nation’s share in individual federal income taxes, according to the latest data from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) from 2011.
These data do not include corporate income taxes, or taxes on capital gains or dividends, or payroll taxes for Social Security and other programs.
In 2011, according to the IRS, there were 145,370,240 individual income tax returns filed. Among those returns, 125,914,418 or 86.6%, belonged to taxpayers earning a salary less than $100,000. The remaining 19,455,822 returns belonged to those taxpayers earning more than $100,000, or 13.4% of the total.
While those top earners, earning six figures or more, represented only 13.4% of the total number of individual income tax returns reported to the IRS, they contributed nearly three-fourths of the total amount of federal tax revenue from individual filers reported for that year.
US Capitol
Dome of the U.S. Capitol. (AP photo)
In 2011, the IRS collected $1,088,559,743,000 based on taxpayers' taxable income. From that total, 71.6%, or $779,547,834,000 came from those taxpayers earning six figures or more. Only 28.4%, or $308,816,180,000, came from those earning less than $100,000.
The IRS has been posting these tax data online since 1996, when the share of the nation’s tax-burden (on individual income) held by six-figure earners was 51%. Since then, the share of the nation’s taxes paid by six-figure earners has increased, peaking (so far) in 2007 when top earners paid 72.6% of the nation’s individual income taxes.
Those individual income taxes, $1.08 trillion, comprised 47% of the federal government's revenue in fiscal year 2011, which was $2.3 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office. The balance came from employment or social insurance taxes (36%); corporate income taxes (8%); excise taxes (3%); custom duties (0.3%); and miscellaneous receipts (4%). (See Historical Budget Data.xls and CBO Budget Outlook.pdf)
coach regardless of who is office I don't think that there will be a reduction in the amount of tax dollars the government collects. Ofcourse the Republicans are going to place the burden on the poor and ever dwindling middle class.
Unless we are willing to cut the military budgets which is currently 1/2 of all federal dollars then we are just arguing over pennies.
everybody wants to cut taxes as long as it doesn't affect their benefits.
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Brutal thinking a 100k is a lot of money in 2014 (unless living in Anus, Idaho). Epic not realizing that plumbers and electricians earn that. Mega thinking that you're going to turn up at Goldman Sachs with your 4-6k a month take-home salary and think you're going to get face time with a 'wealth manager'. :-\
This thread is based on 100k, if you'll recall. Most people in The United States earn in the neighborhood of 40k. Personally speaking, I easily exceeded 100k by the end of First Quarter. So tell me how it all works, big shot...
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This thread is based on 100k, if you'll recall. Most people in The United States earn in the neighborhood of 40k. Personally speaking, I easily exceeded 100k by the end of First Quarter. So tell me how it all works, big shot...
You thought I was going to come out bitching? No I'm not.
If you're pulling in 100k a quarter, I'm truly pleased for you. Do you know which people are pleased for others? People that are happy in their own lives.
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You thought I was going to come out bitching? No I'm not.
If you're pulling in 100k a quarter, I'm truly pleased for you. Do you know which people are pleased for others? People that are happy in their own lives.
Oh that's good to know, because for a moment there I had you confused with a jackoff.
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Oh that's good to know, because for a moment there I had you confused with a jackoff.
That's accurate at least half the day 8)
100k the first quarter. Inspiring bro. What do you do?
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That's accurate at least half the day 8)
100k the first quarter. Inspiring bro. What do you do?
Taking big risks chief!!! :o :o :o :o
That's what I've gone and done. And now got the interview :o
It's for a divisional manager reporting directly to the MD. The only people I've ever 'managed' were sending the trainees to fetch my coffee. I've always been working directly with the clients on site or as part or with the developers.
Any of you ever done it? Took a stab at something and it came off?
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What's the point of this thread? Should those earning less than $100k be paying 72% of federal income taxes?
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You can live on 100K a year. Its ridiculous to think you cant. You may not be taking lavish vacations and driving around in lavish cars, but you can live on 100K. Obviously this all depends on if youre married with kids or not.
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That's accurate at least half the day 8)
100k the first quarter. Inspiring bro. What do you do?
apparently keeps an Excel spreadsheet with a list of his bogus emails and passwords complete to flood getbig.com with dummy accounts (or gimmick accounts. whatever you call them).
don't be fooled.
100k first quarter
5k second quarter
0k third quarter
-90k fourth quarter.
--- Canadian 'dollars' btw.
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You can live on 100K a year. Its ridiculous to think you cant. You may not be taking lavish vacations and driving around in lavish cars, but you can live on 100K. Obviously this all depends on if youre married with kids or not.
mortgage/insurange/upkeep - $2500
car payments - $800
car insurance - $200
food - $300
eating out - $400
gas - $500
hair/nails/tooth stuff/soap/ect - $100
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i'm sure i'm missing stuff.. phones, tv/net, ect.. figure another $500
that's $5300/month... just over $60k/year, fairly easy between two people, even if one works only part-time.
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My friend, I hear you so loud and clear it's scary. It's as if you're sitting next to me.
There's a big argument going on in the 'James' household about the price of engagement rings. All the friends are rocking 20 grand rings (at hefty interest rates) She's not happy with anything less. I'm thinking 2k max (I'm thinking $100 max), she's countering with 15k. Neither of us willing to move on price. So there might not be a wedding any time soon to argue over.
I may try and make light of this but she's pulling out the 'I'll wear it for the rest of my life' and 'don't you want me to have the ring I really desire?' or 'We're only doing this once' arguments.
if shes that stubborn abt the ring chances are she cares more about the ring and the special day than spending the rest of her life with you.
buyer beware. see you in divorce court.
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TOP FEDERAL TAX BRACKET IN AMERICA 39.6%...And for anyone to have to pay this they must make over $400,000. a year...If you make $400,000 a year and your wife don't work, have her take a part time job and file jointly...Because your rate will drop to 35% up to $450,000 a year...If you're a single filer and make $100,000 to $180,000 a year, you're paying somewhere in the 28% range...
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/tax-brackets.aspx
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Why I have the feeling that some guys in this thread are full of $hit about their income?
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Only on Getbig can a household bring in over 200 grand a year and basically live paycheck to paycheck...
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Why I have the feeling that some guys in this thread are full of $hit about their income?
haha no kidding,
most believable thread in a while
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Haha ;D
Why don't you guys read the link I posted. The average shit kicker here earns 70k+ basic and both myself and the girlfriend are degree educated professionals. 200k NEW ZEALAND DOLLARS (not USD!) a stretch? Haha, oh brother.
Edit.
I could only find 2012 figures but shop ASSISTANTS where pulling in 50k a year here (though I imagine that include a fair bit of OT). 2 years ago.
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Acquiring bitcoin anonymously via cash deposit to sellers on localbitcoins.com, sending the bitcoins to a mixer service, and storing multiple addresses' private keys either in encrypted volumes or safety deposit boxes tax-free of peace and victory.
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Acquiring bitcoin anonymously via cash deposit to sellers on localbitcoins.com, sending the bitcoins to a mixer service, and storing multiple addresses' private keys either in encrypted volumes or safety deposit boxes tax-free of peace and victory.
i'll just receive cash via western union, and keep cash in safe deposit boxes. the bitcoin stuff seems risky as hell to me.
stockpiling 9mm and 7.62 ammo in storage units seems safer. lol
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but according to you, you need to be a 'millionaire' (do you even know what a 'millionaire' is? lol) to drive an S-Class Mercedes.
lol
you can have a garage with an 09 S63, a 997 C4S, a 360 Modena, for just over $150k the first two less than 45k miles and the Ferrari less than 25k.
that's only $30k out of pocket if you , only put down 20%.
maybe if you quit spending your sons money on your black crack hookers you too, could drive an S550.
uhm yes....
people driving the car i posted are billionaires you fucking moron
of course there are always people like you, buying cars they cant afford, paying monthly etc ahahaha ;D
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mortgage/insurange/upkeep - $2500
car payments - $800
car insurance - $200
food - $300
eating out - $400
gas - $500
hair/nails/tooth stuff/soap/ect - $100
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i'm sure i'm missing stuff.. phones, tv/net, ect.. figure another $500
that's $5300/month... just over $60k/year, fairly easy between two people, even if one works only part-time.
lmao no wonder you will be broke at retirement age
i dont even have television/internet/fixed phone bills (use someone elses internet)
i drive a cheap car thats on someone elses name who deducts the expenses from his taxes and i give a compensation for this thats much less than having it on my own name own insurance etc
i dont have to pay child support as long as kid is hospitalized on my insurance
i didnt loan much money for my apartment, i paid 50% cash
:D
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if shes that stubborn abt the ring chances are she cares more about the ring and the special day than spending the rest of her life with you.
buyer beware. see you in divorce court.
This.
I would drop her now James, shallow and superficial, I bet shes out of your league though and you are clinging onto her as we speak.
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i'll just receive cash via western union, and keep cash in safe deposit boxes. the bitcoin stuff seems risky as hell to me.
stockpiling 9mm and 7.62 ammo in storage units seems safer. lol
Yeah, dat dere cryptocurrency is seemingly an all-or-nothing investment. But if you consider some of your proceeds as risk capital, btc might be worth a try. Two benefits are:
i) you are accumulating property (that's what the IRS deemed btc recently) that might be hugely valuable in 5-10 years
ii) You can hold it in the digital world at no cost for as long as desired, then 'legitimize' it by transferring it to a btc exchange and selling it, thereby incurring capital gains tax -- no smurfs or otherwise overly complicated schemes needed. With the use of mixer services and having acquired the btc anonymously in the first place, there's no plausible recourse for the IRS to challenge your claim that you were an early adopter only now cashing in (and they're getting dat tax dollar, so are less liable to try).
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i dont have to pay child support as long as kid is hospitalized on my insurance
That explains why hes in there.
By the way, you shouldnt "have" to pay child support, you should "want " to.
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That explains why hes in there.
By the way, you shouldnt "have" to pay child support, you should "want " to.
that's not true
it will be decided in a court of law how much you HAVE to pay, it is based on your income so it's gonna be "not much" :-X
sometimes i give her some cash, i gave her 50€ the other day, instantly i regretted so much and wonder why i did that
she fucking other dudes probably at this point
and i could have used that money for a fine hooker
i went home all sad about it :-\
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that's not true
it will be decided in a court of law how much you HAVE to pay, it is based on your income so it's gonna be "not much" :-X
sometimes i give her some cash, i gave her 50€ the other day, instantly i regretted so much and wonder why i did that
she fucking other dudes probably at this point
and i could have used that money for a fine hooker
i went home all sad about it :-\
Perfect , I couldnt have written a better rebuttal myself, total self ownage.
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Perfect , I couldnt have written a better rebuttal myself, total self ownage.
what are you talking about jeff ???
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This.
I would drop her now James, shallow and superficial, I bet shes out of your league though and you are clinging onto her as we speak.
Hehe. But Si, it's either the ring or the house. Bitch has to choose. I'm getting the SUV, end off. She gets her choice too.
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uhm yes....
people driving the car i posted are billionaires you fucking moron
of course there are always people like you, buying cars they cant afford, paying monthly etc ahahaha ;D
you're calling me a moron? lol.. dude, you shacked up with a negro hooker and put your name on your "son's" birth certificate. lol.. if they even exist.. which they probably don't. as no self-respecting man would talk about on here, even if it were fake. .... if it were real, the buck toothed hooker probably saw you a the dunce you are and suckered you into it, yet you still abandoned the kid.... yeah, you're a real man alright.
and people like me? do you know what I can afford? can you afford a 3% auto loan? 95% (that's 19 out of every 20 genius) of the men who are the potential fathers of your "son" can afford a 3% loan with 20% down.
btw... we've seen the kind of shithole you live in, and you say you work in a bank? lol (and you can't afford tv? or a car?)
you disrespectfull little midget. you can't even afford to provide for your kids/family, yet you PM me many times complaining that you're impotent from whatever steroids you're on and you beg me for Cialis hookups to get a hard enough cock to fuck a hooker. lol.... real 'man' you are.
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if shes that stubborn abt the ring chances are she cares more about the ring and the special day than spending the rest of her life with you.
buyer beware. see you in divorce court.
a womans mind:
"I can't believe you don't even want to give me this one thing, you don't appreciate that I am willing to give myself to you :'( I deserve a caring man :'( "
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you're calling me a moron? lol.. dude, you shacked up with a negro hooker and put your name on your "son's" birth certificate. lol.. if they even exist.. which they probably don't. as no self-respecting man would talk about on here, even if it were fake. .... if it were real, the buck toothed hooker probably saw you a the dunce you are and suckered you into it, yet you still abandoned the kid.... yeah, you're a real man alright.
and people like me? do you know what I can afford? can you afford a 3% auto loan? 95% (that's 19 out of every 20 genius) of the men who are the potential fathers of your "son" can afford a 3% loan with 20% down.
btw... we've seen the kind of shithole you live in, and you say you work in a bank? lol (and you can't afford tv? or a car?)
you disrespectfull little midget. you can't even afford to provide for your kids/family, yet you PM me many times complaining that you're impotent from whatever steroids you're on and you beg me for Cialis hookups to get a hard enough cock to fuck a hooker. lol.... real 'man' you are.
if you could afford those cars you buy you wouldnt need a loan for them ;D ;D ;D dumb bastardo (oh wait you are actually taking the interest route, just because you like to spend more ;D ;D )
the cialis thing was a nice touch, from a guy who always keeps viagra/cialis in his car ;D ;D ;D
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lmao no wonder you will be broke at retirement age
i dont even have television/internet/fixed phone bills (use someone elses internet)
i drive a cheap car thats on someone elses name who deducts the expenses from his taxes and i give a compensation for this thats much less than having it on my own name own insurance etc
i dont have to pay child support as long as kid is hospitalized on my insurance
i didnt loan much money for my apartment, i paid 50% cash
:D
lol... you paid 50% cash? lol... who pays the other 50%? HUD? we've seen your apt (and appliances). 50% is what? $6k?
and why is it you drive a car in someone elses name? and leach off someone elses internet?
what happened to the $1k a day you were earning in the "stock market"? lol... btw, how much of that went to your kid? and how much to your make-believe 'hookers'? (by 'hooker', do you mean your baby's mommas sisters and cousins? in that sense, maybe you are paying child support).
if any of that is true... you don't have those things because you can't afford them and by the looks of where you live, you're on some sort of public assistance, so those of us who pay taxes are supporting you.
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you're calling me a moron? lol.. dude, you shacked up with a negro hooker and put your name on your "son's" birth certificate. lol.. if they even exist.. which they probably don't. as no self-respecting man would talk about on here, even if it were fake. .... if it were real, the buck toothed hooker probably saw you a the dunce you are and suckered you into it, yet you still abandoned the kid.... yeah, you're a real man alright.
and people like me? do you know what I can afford? can you afford a 3% auto loan? 95% (that's 19 out of every 20 genius) of the men who are the potential fathers of your "son" can afford a 3% loan with 20% down.
btw... we've seen the kind of shithole you live in, and you say you work in a bank? lol (and you can't afford tv? or a car?)
you disrespectfull little midget. you can't even afford to provide for your kids/family, yet you PM me many times complaining that you're impotent from whatever steroids you're on and you beg me for Cialis hookups to get a hard enough cock to fuck a hooker. lol.... real 'man' you are.
Esfitness plucking up the courage to stick his head above the parapet again.
Nice to see.
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lol... you paid 50% cash? lol... who pays the other 50%? HUD? we've seen your apt (and appliances). 50% is what? $6k?
and why is it you drive a car in someone elses name? and leach off someone elses internet?
what happened to the $1k a day you were earning in the "stock market"? lol... btw, how much of that went to your kid? and how much to your make-believe 'hookers'? (by 'hooker', do you mean your baby's mommas sisters and cousins? in that sense, maybe you are paying child support).if any of that is true... you don't have those things because you can't afford them and by the looks of where you live, you're on some sort of public assistance, so those of us who pay taxes are supporting you.
You need to wind it in with the family personal comments.
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if you could afford those cars you buy you wouldnt need a loan for them ;D ;D ;D dumb bastardo (oh wait you are actually taking the interest route, just because you like to spend more ;D ;D )
the cialis thing was a nice touch, from a guy who always keeps viagra/cialis in his car ;D ;D ;D
I train ppl who own Ferrari's, Maserati's, Astons, ect... (no lambos at the moment, that I can think of though)... and who live in 2, 4, 5 million dollar homes.. and you know how many of them paid cash for any of it? zero. genius. everything is financed. why would you pay cash for something that LOSES value. a car isn't an investment, and mortgages have tax benefits.
for someone who works or worked for bank (like you claim), you'd think you would know this already.
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You need to wind it in with the family personal comments.
nah, fuck that... I'm not saying anything that mr Autism here hasn't said himself already, many times over in thread after thread.
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nah, fuck that... I'm not saying anything that mr Autism here hasn't said himself already, many times over in thread after thread.
Thats his perogative, not yours.
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You need to wind it in with the family personal comments.
he's bitter because he looks like shit on all that gear
also broke as fuck, a slave to the debts he makes on things he cant afford
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Thats his perogative, not yours.
lol... how ironic, you posting about what's who's prerogative.
I get it though.. he's your only fanboy, and you're no one's.
trolls gotta stick together.
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ESF:
*knuckle head street level criminal
*steroid dealer
*taking out loans on cars to look like a baller
*monster steroid abuser who barely looks like he lifts
bahahahaha
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he's bitter because he looks like shit on all that gear
also broke as fuck, a slave to the debts he makes on things he cant afford
broke? lol... I haven't even bothered to deposit my last few paychecks and have enough cash in my wallet to pay 4 months of your rent.
and what debts? lol.
btw, you still want that Cialis? next time N**S "rips you off", go cry to someone else. I'm sure you can find somebody at the halfway house to trade your psych-meds for'em.
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lol... how ironic, you posting about what's who's prerogative.
I get it though.. he's your only fanboy, and you're no one's.
trolls gotta stick together.
You need to get attuned to the rules of engagement on here.
If you push the boundries dont be butt hurt when the shoes on the other foot.
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You need to get attuned to the rules of engagement on here.
If you push the boundries dont be butt hurt when the shoes on the other foot.
he wants to post a hundred threads talking about how his baby momma cheats on him, is a whore, is a gold digger, how he abandoned his child, how he got fired, how he doesn't pay child support, ect... and expects to be disrespectfull when I took time and answered his questions via PM time after time, then he gets what's coming to him. I'm not saying anything he hasn't already said himself.
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ESF probably calls his friends wives and girlfriends kunts, bitches, whores
because his friends have referred to them in that way so it's ok
;D
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I'm not saying anything he hasn't already said himself.
Do you see anyone else on here attacking his family?
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this convict will be behind bars soon enough
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ESF probably calls his friends wives and girlfriends kunts, bitches, whores
because his friends have referred to them in that way so it's ok
;D
actually, my friends don't refer to their wives and gf's as k unts, bitches or whores... I don't associate with Hebrews or their sisters.
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I train ppl who own Ferrari's, Maserati's, Astons, ect... (no lambos at the moment, that I can think of though)... and who live in 2, 4, 5 million dollar homes.. and you know how many of them paid cash for any of it? zero. genius. everything is financed. why would you pay cash for something that LOSES value. a car isn't an investment, and mortgages have tax benefits.
for someone who works or worked for bank (like you claim), you'd think you would know this already.
You are not doing bad bearing in mind you only have a website you dont use and are not even listed as a personal trainer in your area (unless you changed your name again)
Are you certified?
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You are not doing bad bearing in mind you only have a website you dont use and are not even listed as a personal trainer in your area (unless you changed your name again)
Are you certified?
he's a certified convict
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Do you see anyone else on here attacking his family?
so what? little bandwagon punk wants to be disrespectfull towards me he gets what's coming.
like I said, you trolls gotta stick together. you have strength in numbers because you're cowards on your own.
besides... you speak of him like he's a real person.
dude is a fictional character. he doesn't have a job, a baby, a baby-momma, a wife/gf, or any money to pay women to fuck him.... his plea's for attention are worse than your lack of social skills.
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so what? little bandwagon punk wants to be disrespectfull towards me he gets what's coming.
like I said, you trolls gotta stick together. you have strength in numbers because you're cowards on your own.
besides... you speak of him like he's a real person.
dude is a fictional character. he doesn't have a job, a baby, a baby-momma, a wife/gf, or any money to pay women to fuck him.... his plea's for attention are worse than your lack of social skills.
Nope, hes genuine, hard to believe I know, he hasnt slipped up or contradicted himself all the time I have been here, gimmicks always slip up.
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ESF talks shit about being unemployed, because he has never been right ???
oh wait, except the time in prison ;D ;D ;D
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You are not doing bad bearing in mind you only have a website you dont use and are not even listed as a personal trainer in your area (unless you changed your name again)
Are you certified?
#1 I have quite a few certs... doesn't matter though, as cert's don't mean shit. I know many with less than 6 months of training experience (their own experience, not training other ppl) with certs. cert's are mainly for insurance and marketing.
#2 what do I need my websites for? launched'em on a whim and had a client do a quick "build" and never finished them. my business comes from word of mouth and face to face meeting. don't think I've ever gotten a client from my sites.
#3 listed where? lol. my companies are listed.
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ESF talks shit about being unemployed, because he has never been right ???
oh wait, except the time in prison ;D ;D ;D
I was employed in prison. read up, genius.
unless you count the 6 months in county jail.
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#1 I have quite a few certs... doesn't matter though, as cert's don't mean shit. I know many with less than 6 months of training experience (their own experience, not training other ppl) with certs. cert's are mainly for insurance and marketing.
#2 what do I need my websites for? launched'em on a whim and had a client do a quick "build" and never finished them. my business comes from word of mouth and face to face meeting. don't think I've ever gotten a client from my sites. #3 listed where? lol. my companies are listed.
Hardly surprising, your photos are on there.
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I was employed in prison. read up, genius.
unless you count the 6 months in county jail.
sucking cock is not a real job
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Hardly surprising, your photos are on there.
yea.... because all my clients are bodybuilders who earn pro cards every year? ::)
just goes to show your complete lack of experience regarding training people for money.
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Hardly surprising, your photos are on there.
:D
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sucking cock is not a real job
actually worked for the dept of tourism in which I worked with the board of accountancy and the board of nursing. (for that state)
read up genius, if you're gonna troll me.
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actually worked for the dept of tourism in which I worked with the board of accountancy and the board of nursing. (for that state)
read up genius, if you're gonna troll me.
right, there is a department of tourism in prison, in which the accountants are stick up chumps like yourself ::) ::)
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right, there is a department of tourism in prison, in which the accountants are stick up chumps like yourself ::) ::)
state departments contract out work. board of accountancy and board of nursing contracts out to the dept of tourism.
I understand your learning disability prevents you from understanding complicated things, like sub-contracting and bid's for labor and whatnot.
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state departments contract out work. board of accountancy and board of nursing contracts out to the dept of tourism.
I understand your learning disability prevents you from understanding complicated things, like sub-contracting and bid's for labor and whatnot.
you should have hit the weight yard instead of pushing pencils, gloria
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you should have hit the weight yard instead of pushing pencils, gloria
so which is it?
I should've had a job?
or
I should've hit the weight's?
you're not equipped for this, mental midget.
btw... have you thought of having your 'baby momma' charged with a sex crime? as it's typically against the law for somebody to engage in intercourse with a person who's mentally unfit/unable to consent to sex.
in laymans terms, your 'baby momma' had sex with a retarded person, legally unable to make those kinds of decisions (you).
you'd kill two birds with one stone.. no more baby momma drama, and the state would take away your child as you're an unfit parent. you wouldn't even have to disown the child (as you already have), as you wouldn't have a choice.
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ESF seems mad about my baby mama issues
he cant seem to let it go ;D
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yea.... because all my clients are bodybuilders who earn pro cards every year? ::)
just goes to show your complete lack of experience regarding training people for money.
(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Lindsay-Lohan-Spits-Out-Drink.gif)
Please, you must name names.
Just tell us what year at least, you have only been out of prison 3 years.
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I suspect that may have been sarcasm on the part of our dear friend :D
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I suspect that may have been sarcasm on the part of our dear friend :D
Ah, I see, a sarcastic post wasn't what I expected as a response.
I expected an angry outburst.
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Esfitness plucking up the courage to stick his head above the parapet again.
Nice to see.
[/quote Lol! :D!
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lol... how ironic, you posting about what's who's prerogative.
I get it though.. he's your only fanboy, and you're no one's.
trolls gotta stick together.
you forgetting me, tough guy!
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Money threads always bring out the "highrollers", religion threads bring out the "nutters" and wyhi threads bring out.....well they bring out everyone.
Most individuals in the US do not earn anywhere close to 100K a year. Most families of 5-6 live on less than half of that.
My household is extremely middle class. I work, wife works, kids in daycare. We both work professional jobs and we're both average earners, but collectively and compared to majority we earn a ton more than most. In that sense we are very, very wealthy (won't even talk about other countries). We've lived on far, far less and been very happy.....it is possible LOL.
No, you don't get lavish vacations each year, pockets of spending cash, meals out 5 days a week, constant shopping sprees.....you live with less. All that other stuff is just stuff.
We don't own a business, have employees and everything associated with that. We man cubes in large cube farms in big international corporations.
We put money away best we can and we live with less.
Every year friends go on vacations....we don't. Every 2 years friends buy new vehicles.....we don't. Every new gadget that is released our friends purchase......we buy something every 4-5 years. We live with less.
We tithe to our church, we give to the poor, we pass out money to those on street corners, we spoil our child a bit, we shop at discount stores like Target and Walmart for normal stuff, but if we need nicer things we go to nicer places and plan for things.
Getbig is a fantasy that everyone indulges in....what I just wrote is a taste of reality......nobody wants to read that though LOL.
We all know who the financial successes are on this board....they'll always let you know LOL. Hey, good for them. Me, I'm "Joe Average Middle Class".
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^^^^^ always a voice of reason 8)
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ESF seems mad about my baby mama issues
he cant seem to let it go ;D
Yes but you don't have a child or an ex. You're a shitty little liar with a lousy physique, if that's even your pic being posted. Moron.
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Yes but you don't have a child or an ex. You're a shitty little liar with a lousy physique, if that's even your pic being posted. Moron.
yes timmy ok timmy
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yes timmy ok timmy
lol where is it from? I cant remember
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lol where is it from? I cant remember
Is it spoilt bastard from Viz comic?
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Is it spoilt bastard from Viz comic?
its from a movie I think..
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yes timmy ok timmy
Is that all you got shitty little liar? Tell us the lie about you visiting your sick kid (who doesn't exist) in the hospital. Moron.
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lol where is it from? I cant remember
i dont know i just think of south park
TIMMYYYY TIMMYYYY when i see retards post
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you forgetting me, tough guy!
don't know who you are, nor do I care.
maybe try posting under your other handles, it may ring a bell... nor not.
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Money threads always bring out the "highrollers", religion threads bring out the "nutters" and wyhi threads bring out.....well they bring out everyone.
Most individuals in the US do not earn anywhere close to 100K a year. Most families of 5-6 live on less than half of that.
My household is extremely middle class. I work, wife works, kids in daycare. We both work professional jobs and we're both average earners, but collectively and compared to majority we earn a ton more than most. In that sense we are very, very wealthy (won't even talk about other countries). We've lived on far, far less and been very happy.....it is possible LOL.
No, you don't get lavish vacations each year, pockets of spending cash, meals out 5 days a week, constant shopping sprees.....you live with less. All that other stuff is just stuff.
We don't own a business, have employees and everything associated with that. We man cubes in large cube farms in big international corporations.
We put money away best we can and we live with less.
Every year friends go on vacations....we don't. Every 2 years friends buy new vehicles.....we don't. Every new gadget that is released our friends purchase......we buy something every 4-5 years. We live with less.
We tithe to our church, we give to the poor, we pass out money to those on street corners, we spoil our child a bit, we shop at discount stores like Target and Walmart for normal stuff, but if we need nicer things we go to nicer places and plan for things.
Getbig is a fantasy that everyone indulges in....what I just wrote is a taste of reality......nobody wants to read that though LOL.
We all know who the financial successes are on this board....they'll always let you know LOL. Hey, good for them. Me, I'm "Joe Average Middle Class".
Yet you believe in sky fairies and invisible ghosts, a ship that sailed with all the animals in the world for days as the planet flooded and dinosaurs that dropped from the sky as the talking 'spirit' up there wanted it.
Shower us with more reality :D
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Yet you believe in sky fairies and invisible ghosts, a ship that sailed with all the animals in the world for days as the planet flooded and dinosaurs that dropped from the sky as the talking 'spirit' up there wanted it.
Shower us with more reality :D
Take this to the religion board if you want discussion.
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Money threads always bring out the "highrollers", religion threads bring out the "nutters" and wyhi threads bring out.....well they bring out everyone.
Most individuals in the US do not earn anywhere close to 100K a year. Most families of 5-6 live on less than half of that.
My household is extremely middle class. I work, wife works, kids in daycare. We both work professional jobs and we're both average earners, but collectively and compared to majority we earn a ton more than most. In that sense we are very, very wealthy (won't even talk about other countries). We've lived on far, far less and been very happy.....it is possible LOL.
No, you don't get lavish vacations each year, pockets of spending cash, meals out 5 days a week, constant shopping sprees.....you live with less. All that other stuff is just stuff.
We don't own a business, have employees and everything associated with that. We man cubes in large cube farms in big international corporations.
We put money away best we can and we live with less.
Every year friends go on vacations....we don't. Every 2 years friends buy new vehicles.....we don't. Every new gadget that is released our friends purchase......we buy something every 4-5 years. We live with less.
We tithe to our church, we give to the poor, we pass out money to those on street corners, we spoil our child a bit, we shop at discount stores like Target and Walmart for normal stuff, but if we need nicer things we go to nicer places and plan for things.
Getbig is a fantasy that everyone indulges in....what I just wrote is a taste of reality......nobody wants to read that though LOL.
We all know who the financial successes are on this board....they'll always let you know LOL. Hey, good for them. Me, I'm "Joe Average Middle Class".
I hope someday you are afforded the opportunity to be self employed....and be a man that lets others earn their meals, and not be given meals born of your sweat. Yet I respect your right to do anything you want with YOUR property and any fashion you deem necessary.
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I hope someday you are afforded the opportunity to be self employed....and be a man that lets others earn their meals, and not be given meals born of your sweat. Yet I respect your right to do anything you want with YOUR property and any fashion you deem necessary.
Maybe one day I'll be blessed with that opportunity.
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I wrote a check for 34k yesterday and that's after having paid 16k in estimated payments
SE Tax is where I got hammered
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I wrote a check for 34k yesterday and that's after having paid 16k in estimated payments
SE Tax is where I got hammered
I get raped on property taxes...over 50K a year (combined) over 60K with ad valorem
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I get raped on property taxes...over 50K a year (combined) over 60K with ad valorem
Damn, is that a commercial property or do you live on an estate?
BTW - thanks for making me feel better. I appreciate it
I only paid ~ 9k in property tax last year
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Damn, is that a commercial property or do you live on an estate?
BTW - thanks of making me feel better. I appreciate it
I only paid ~ 9k in property tax last year
commercial, residential, and undeveloped property....all mixed in, and equipment/work vehicles for A-V. And I have a nice home but NOT an estate by any means.
Look into SEP IRA's to shelter and anything 179 Deductible
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commercial, residential, and undeveloped property....all mixed in, and equipment/work vehicles for A-V. And I have a nice home but NOT an estate by any means.
OK, so multiple properties and work equipment, etc..
the 9k for me was just personal residence
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OK, so multiple properties and work equipment, etc..
the 9k for me was just personal residence
must be west coast cali or northern states NY, PA, NJ, NH etc?
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must be west coast cali or northern states NY, PA, NJ, NH etc?
I'm in CA but our property tax rates are not that bad (IMO) though not nearly as good as some states like CO
My family members all live in TX and their property tax rates are much higher although there is no state income tax
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commercial, residential, and undeveloped property....all mixed in, and equipment/work vehicles for A-V. And I have a nice home but NOT an estate by any means.
Look into SEP IRA's to shelter and anything 179 Deductible
I max out the SEP every year (or very close)
The SEP reduces income tax but not SE Tax
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esfitness sure does project the aura of a streetwise and accomplished alpha male
bickering over minutiae with "gimmicks" for page on end
::)
btw, save your breathe; i don't care
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I'm in CA but our property tax rates are not that bad (IMO) though not nearly as good as some states like CO
My family members all live in TX and their property tax rates are much higher although there is no state income tax
It's not so much the percentage itself, it's the fact that houses are so expensive in the "desirable" parts of ca
1% of a 200k home in encino is doable but when your in the bay or nicer parts of LA and closing on a mil, 1% is not so cool. Lucky they haven't repealed those deductions, yet.
Let's see if brown can get rid of 13 to give more money to illegals Help The Children