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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: millineum man on June 24, 2014, 04:46:04 PM
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I know most if not all advocate Test based cycles. But, has anyone had success with low to NO Test/Anabolic based cycles? If so, what did you use and how were the results?
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Who has done low test high deca? I always keep my test around 600 I want to drop it though to around 200-300. Is there a big loss in fullness?
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I don't know if this counts or not but I am doing 250/400 test/boldenone atm and it's going great.
My reasoning is that 250mg of test is enough for me to grow and I want the boldenone for it's own benefits as a training aid
I've said this a lot but if you want to grow up the test. If you're losing fullness then maybe up the test a bit also
Not that experienced but this is just the logic I use.
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Who has done low test high deca? I always keep my test around 600 I want to drop it though to around 200-300. Is there a big loss in fullness?
I did high deca/low test, but my high deca was 1500mg and my low test was 900mg. lol
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I did high deca/low test, but my high deca was 1500mg and my low test was 900mg. lol
lmao ;D
imo low test high deca makes no sense. why would u run it... people run low test high tren to get rid of the side effects.
high deca high test doesnt give these side effects though.
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The only times I have heard of it is when folks don't want to jab and just want orals. It seems almost universal that some test in the mix has a "synergistic" effect. Personally, I don't know. Team Test Only here.
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There was a thread on T nation where a dude was running like 30mgs of testProp a week with like 100 tren ED if I come across it I post up the link.
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I've did a search and read some posts by Digusted that advocated Anabolic cycles using Equipoise or Deca as a base and using an oral like Dbol, Anavar, or Anadrol.
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There was a thread on T nation where a dude was running like 30mgs of testProp a week with like 100 tren ED if I come across it I post up the link.
low test high tren is extremely common nowadays. its probably great for cutting and gives less side effects than running both high.
for bulking high test is obviously better. test is cheap and it works. totally pointless NOT to run high test during a bulk.
(cutting and trying to look your best its a different story)
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I've did a search and read some posts by Digusted that advocated Anabolic cycles using Equipoise or Deca as a base and using an oral like Dbol, Anavar, or Anadrol.
EQ is common as a base, I mean you still need a little test but EQ being the highest mg.
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I did high deca/low test, but my high deca was 1500mg and my low test was 900mg. lol
ahahahaha you need to be falcon punched
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Most of my cycle don't include test.
I only take test when I am broke and that's the only thing I can afford
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Any details? Did you gain any size or strength?
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How does 600mgs of EQ sound with 50mgs/ed Anavar or Turinabol? Or 600mgs of EQ with 250mgs of Test E?
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I dropped test about 4 weeks ago.
Just 100mgs parabolon (tren)
100mgs mast
200mgs EQ.
Vascular hard and full.
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How does 600mgs of EQ sound with 50mgs/ed Anavar or Turinabol? Or 600mgs of EQ with 250mgs of Test E?
Expensive. Where are you getting legit var?
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I did high deca/low test, but my high deca was 1500mg and my low test was 900mg. lol
;D
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Expensive. Where are you getting legit var?
Var is not expensive, just people still ripping people off to this day.
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I dropped test about 4 weeks ago.
Just 100mgs parabolon (tren)
100mgs mast
200mgs EQ.
Vascular hard and full.
Damn, Simon! Is that all you're using? That's awesome!! I seen the pic you posted in the G & O section. Is the Parabolan you're using Tren Hex and Mast enanthate? All once a week injections?
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Var is not expensive, just people still ripping people off to this day.
True....
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low test high tren is extremely common nowadays. its probably great for cutting and gives less side effects than running both high.
for bulking high test is obviously better. test is cheap and it works. totally pointless NOT to run high test during a bulk.
(cutting and trying to look your best its a different story)
I switched up my test and tren doses according to BLP, when he said his results went through the roof afterwards.. he said 3g/wk test was like 'normal' to him and he felt nothing.. I could relate. lol
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I dropped test about 4 weeks ago.
Just 100mgs parabolon (tren)
100mgs mast
200mgs EQ.
Vascular hard and full.
good daily dosage lol
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I switched up my test and tren doses according to BLP, when he said his results went through the roof afterwards.. he said 3g/wk test was like 'normal' to him and he felt nothing.. I could relate. lol
which dosages did you run before and after?
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Damn, Simon! Is that all you're using? That's awesome!! I seen the pic you posted in the G & O section. Is the Parabolan you're using Tren Hex and Mast enanthate? All once a week injections?
Parabolon is ISIS, I rate it over anything I have ever used, night sweats on 100mgs????
I mix it all in 2 separate 2ml barrels and do both delts once a week
In fact Im using slightly less because I use less than the full 2ml.
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which dosages did you run before and after?
varied... anywhere from 1-4g test e or c and npp at 200-400 3x/wk or deca at 1-2g/wk. dbol mostly preworkout only at 100-200mg.. when I ran tren it was usually less than 700mg/wk though.. about 200mg EOD.
crusing on about 600 test and 500 tren e at the moment.. with about 150mg dbol preworkout
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I dropped test about 4 weeks ago.
Just 100mgs parabolon (tren)
100mgs mast
200mgs EQ.
Vascular hard and full.
Just cruising right?
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varied... anywhere from 1-4g test e or c and npp at 200-400 3x/wk or deca at 1-2g/wk. dbol mostly preworkout only at 100-200mg.. when I ran tren it was usually less than 700mg/wk though.. about 200mg EOD.
crusing on about 600 test and 500 tren e at the moment.. with about 150mg dbol preworkout
and you think low test with high tren gives you better gains than high test and lower tren?
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varied... anywhere from 1-4g test e or c and npp at 200-400 3x/wk or deca at 1-2g/wk. dbol mostly preworkout only at 100-200mg.. when I ran tren it was usually less than 700mg/wk though.. about 200mg EOD.
crusing on about 600 test and 500 tren e at the moment.. with about 150mg dbol preworkout
Well, that's definitely NOT low Test.... ;D It's just lower than before. ;)
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Just cruising right?
No, I just cruise on 250mgs test every 7 to 10 days.
Thats a stack for me. ;D
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No, I just cruise on 250mgs test every 7 to 10 days.
Thats a stack for me. ;D
Do you notice any changes in weight, strength, or body composition when you switch between the combo and the Test? Any loss in libido?
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Do you notice any changes in weight, strength, or body composition when you switch between the combo and the Test? Any loss in libido?
Body composition changes, I dropped the test and dropped some water.
Strength I never notice, never monitor my poundages.
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Body composition changes, I dropped the test and dropped some water.
Strength I never notice, never monitor my poundages.
Would this be a good protocol for someone just starting out at 40? Start with 250mgs of Test a week for 16 weeks then go with a Parabolan/Mast/EQ combo?
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Would this be a good protocol for someone just starting out at 40? Start with 250mgs of Test a week for 16 weeks then go with a Parabolan/Mast/EQ combo?
Post a pic and i will tell you. ;)
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Post a pic and i will tell you. ;)
I'm 6'3" 235lbs and am nothing special, trust me. ;)
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Age 40 and just starting out I'd be careful and stick to aromatising compounds only. So low doses of test, nandrolone, dianabol and boldenone
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Post a pic and i will tell you. ;)
I'll take that as a yes, then. ;)
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Who has done low test high deca? I always keep my test around 600 I want to drop it though to around 200-300. Is there a big loss in fullness?
I did it and it was decent. I ran 175mg test from strango, and his deca at 2.5cc or was it 3... I can't remember. His deca is 300mg/ml. I didn't like the look, but I've never been thicker in my life I will say that.
I also ran a gram of NPP for 8 weeks straight, also strango product, using the same test dosage. Blew the fuck up bro. I like lower test I get gyno easily... And the drier leaner look is nice to have at the beach.
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I did it and it was decent. I ran 175mg test from strango, and his deca at 2.5cc or was it 3... I can't remember. His deca is 300mg/ml. I didn't like the look, but I've never been thicker in my life I will say that.
I also ran a gram of NPP for 8 weeks straight, also strango product, using the same test dosage. Blew the fuck up bro. I like lower test I get gyno easily... And the drier leaner look is nice to have at the beach.
You ran a gram of NPP??!! The highest I heard someone using was 700mgs/wk. How much did your body weight increase?
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You ran a gram of NPP??!! The highest I heard someone using was 700mgs/wk. How much did your body weight increase?
lol a gram of NPP is nothing out the ordinary... 1g test 1g npp and add an oral from time to time = awesome bulk cycle (also my favorite).
npp is very versatile, you dont hold much water on the stuff and muscles pop. great for cutting, bulking, whatever.
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I dropped test about 4 weeks ago.
Just 100mgs parabolon (tren)
100mgs mast
200mgs EQ.
Vascular hard and full.
Daily?
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Daily?
Weekly.
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Weekly.
Interesting. Is this what you run year round? You have a good physique for any age, at your age I'd be tempted to say you use a lot more but I'm not you and will never know for sure. I don't mean offense, but for me at least it's kinda hard to believe. I'm genuinely curious here
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Interesting. Is this what you run year round? You have a good physique for any age, at your age I'd be tempted to say you use a lot more but I'm not you and will never know for sure. I don't mean offense, but for me at least it's kinda hard to believe. I'm genuinely curious here
Normally test (250mgs a week to ten days) year round, I occasionally don't have anything for a month.
I use the test then add in tren normally at 200-300mgs a week for around 10 weeks.
I just tried the mast/tre/Eq this time around , Its worked really well.
I will be back on test next week and then off the other stuff for around 6 weeks then back on again before Sept.
I have no reason at all to lie about dosage, in fact i cant take more because i feel like shit off it and dont like pinning.
I dont even like the look 500mgs test gives me (bloat)
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I've been doing low Test cycles the past two years with good results. Sometimes i'll run 250mg Test with 600mg Eq or Deca and an oral with good results. I used to be a high Test guy but i've noticed a little less sides running lower Test. I guess it just depends on how you react to certain drugs but i don't think there is anything wrong with low Test cycles.
Last year i ran a no Test cycle with great results and i'm in my mid-30's. I used 600mg Deca, 600mg Eq and 80mg Var. Had a great cycle with no problems. I think the Eq made it easier for me to run no Test. That was the only recent experience i have with no Test cycles. Not for everyone, but i was fine and made good solid gains.
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You ran a gram of NPP??!! The highest I heard someone using was 700mgs/wk. How much did your body weight increase?
300mg eod so 1050mg yeah it was a nice run I also had a gram of eq in there too. I didnt really weigh myself but I was told about a week in yhat I had exploded. This was by a friend of.mine who hadn't seen me for a week. Npp is a great compound bro
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I've been doing low Test cycles the past two years with good results. Sometimes i'll run 250mg Test with 600mg Eq or Deca and an oral with good results. I used to be a high Test guy but i've noticed a little less sides running lower Test. I guess it just depends on how you react to certain drugs but i don't think there is anything wrong with low Test cycles.
Last year i ran a no Test cycle with great results and i'm in my mid-30's. I used 600mg Deca, 600mg Eq and 80mg Var. Had a great cycle with no problems. I think the Eq made it easier for me to run no Test. That was the only recent experience i have with no Test cycles. Not for everyone, but i was fine and made good solid gains.
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That sounds like an unorthodox, yet effective cycle. Like you said, it's not everybody.
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I'm tempted to try 250mgs/wk of Test E with 600mgs of EQ/wk.
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I'm tempted to try 250mgs/wk of Test E with 600mgs of EQ/wk.
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I'm tempted to try 250mgs/wk of Test E with 600mgs of EQ/wk.
Only thing I will run test low on is tren otherwise im 500 and up to 1g to get bigger if I ever try eq again ill use bout a gram a week and it'll b a long cycle may kick it off with npp first 6 weeks as well but thats a helluva lot of oil to shoot. Gonna give deca a go at bout 600 weekly with 800 test bout 16 weeks this winter bulk
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I take it you don't agree??
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I'm tempted to try 250mgs/wk of Test E with 600mgs of EQ/wk.
make it 900mg EQ bro you'll like it a lot better
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make it 900mg EQ bro you'll like it a lot better
I just may do that since I can get quality EQ for a decent price. I'm going 20 weeks with it and 3-4 blood donations to be on the safe side. ;D