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Title: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: the trainer on July 07, 2014, 08:16:05 AM
Why is it that bodybuilders are afraid of real jobs, I have heard many bodybuilders say that they are forced to do g4p, prostitution etc cause they dont have money, are they not aware that there are real jobs available if you are willing to work or is it that they are just lazy and dont like to work,



Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: BigCyp on July 07, 2014, 08:18:28 AM
Why is it that bodybuilders are afraid of real jobs, I have heard many bodybuilders say that they are forced to do g4p, prostitution etc cause they dont have money, are they not aware that there are real jobs available if you are willing to work or is it that they are just lazy and dont like to work,





To be honest, I would rather suck a few cocks and train all day then be doing this fucking spreadsheet (no homo)
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: 240 is Back on July 07, 2014, 08:18:45 AM
I think it's fair that any man carrying 80 more pounds of muscle than his peers shouldn't have to work.

I mean, he's human royalty when packing that much beef.  Every girl wants him, every guy wants to he him.

It's insulting to think a person weighing 260 pounds at under 10% body fat should ever take orders from a "boss".
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: residue on July 07, 2014, 08:19:53 AM
hard to find jobs that will let you snap at co-workers because you're at low bf and starving. or find a job that will let you eat chicken breast and boiled smelly broccoli every hour. and most importantly, if you're educated\skilled enough to find a proper job you're probably too smart to think as lifting weights as anything other than a hobby
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: theredeemer on July 07, 2014, 08:29:16 AM
Why is it that bodybuilders are afraid of real jobs





Don't be silly.  Bodybuilders work for supplement companies.  Usually in the bio chemistry departments.



Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on July 07, 2014, 08:45:02 AM
hard to find jobs that will let you snap at co-workers because you're at low bf and starving. or find a job that will let you eat chicken breast and boiled smelly broccoli every hour. and most importantly, if you're educated\skilled enough to find a proper job you're probably too smart to think as lifting weights as anything other than a hobby

There's also that pesty chance that one will have to do some late hours here and there to get things done, not to mention there are some jobs, particularly very competitive ones in which 10 to 12 hour days are sort of the norm. Add to that all the other annoying bullshit of everyday life and one would not be left to lift six days per week. Most bosses don't care that you're "feeling flat" because you're overdue on a scheduled meal of asparagus, tilapia and a sweet potato or that you have a show coming up and don't want to miss cardio.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: falco on July 07, 2014, 08:49:39 AM
Why is it that bodybuilders are afraid of real jobs, I have heard many bodybuilders say that they are forced to do g4p, prostitution etc cause they dont have money, are they not aware that there are real jobs available if you are willing to work or is it that they are just lazy and dont like to work,





What do you do besides being 250lbs at 8%?
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: the trainer on July 07, 2014, 08:55:50 AM
What do you do besides being 250lbs at 8%?

I work very hard training clients from 5am in the morning till late at night.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: the trainer on July 07, 2014, 08:56:51 AM
There's also that pesty chance that one will have to do some late hours here and there to get things done, not to mention there are some jobs, particularly very competitive ones in which 10 to 12 hour days are sort of the norm. Add to that all the other annoying bullshit of everyday life and one would not be left to lift six days per week. Most bosses don't care that you're "feeling flat" because you're overdue on a scheduled meal of asparagus, tilapia and a sweet potato or that you have a show coming up and don't want to miss cardio.

ronnie coleman worked 10 hours per day as a cop and won the mr olympia.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: MAXX on July 07, 2014, 08:59:08 AM
stress, missing meals, poor sleep...

all this.... really not conductive for your bbing
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: falco on July 07, 2014, 09:01:59 AM
ronnie coleman worked 10 hours per day as a cop and won the mr olympia.

Nop. That info has been debunked.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 07, 2014, 09:02:03 AM
Most resort to G4P.

The only people making any real money are the Mr O winners... and that only lasts for a couple years.  After you stop winning, you're basically done.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Skorp1o on July 07, 2014, 09:02:41 AM
To be honest, I would rather suck a few cocks and train all day then be doing this fucking spreadsheet (no homo)

OMFG LOL

 ;D
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: the trainer on July 07, 2014, 09:03:25 AM
stress, missing meals, poor sleep...

all this.... really not conductive for your bbing

There is 24 hours in the day so you work 8 hours and train for 1 hour and sleep for 8 you still have 7 hours of free time left over and you can have 3 solid meals and 2 MRP in a shaker to sip on between meals so your excuses dont hold water.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Natural Man on July 07, 2014, 09:09:50 AM
most bbers never had fathers who taught them to work and were raised by single mothers. So they re used to doing nothing all day long until they discovered bbing.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Deacon Jeschin on July 07, 2014, 03:01:14 PM
Easy fast money is hard to quit. I know guys with masters who still escort

Like this?

(http://www.gayart.info/master/master_slave.jpg)
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: da_vinci on July 08, 2014, 07:51:50 AM
Where I live - bb'ing is almost an eleet activity to do. There are jobless insecure clowns too, but many are just insecure morons, rich tho'. At a bodybuilding show parking lot you'd see mostly expensive cars parked. Many thugs or some who are retaled to that kind of life.

It seems an american trend that bb'ers are very often a cock sucking homos or losers living off parents.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Tapeworm on July 08, 2014, 08:00:30 AM
I mean, he's human royalty when packing that much beef

Saw it.  Laughed it. 
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: FermiDirac on July 08, 2014, 09:57:18 AM
Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didn't have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them.

Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they they interact with others for the rest of their life.
They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exaggeratly for attention (Hello Goodrum), and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.

Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world.
They're insecure because they're girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom.
They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunaltey they can get as big as they can it doesnt cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They re no as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they dont know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back thru various manly activities (mma, cars, weight lifting etc).

They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males will go the steroids route to get even "bigger" attemptint to cure their insecurity , but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males. The lack of a father figure also often means they didnt have guidance to continue studies and are often working shitty manual jobs.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: doriancutlerman on July 08, 2014, 02:24:57 PM
I think it's fair that any man carrying 80 more pounds of muscle than his peers shouldn't have to work.

I mean, he's human royalty when packing that much beef.  Every girl wants him, every guy wants to he him.

It's insulting to think a person weighing 260 pounds at under 10% body fat should ever take orders from a "boss".

Rob, you are a trip, man :)  I don't think I'll ever be able to really get inside your head, LOL.

Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Simple Simon on July 08, 2014, 02:26:56 PM
I work very hard training clients from 5am in the morning till late at night.
I imagine thats what gasprotto tells everyone in real life.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on July 08, 2014, 02:32:16 PM
ronnie coleman worked 10 hours per day as a cop and won the mr olympia.

Hahahah! To think he was a REAL cop doing REAL cop work, all when he couldn't even fit into a bulletproof vest, is laughable!
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 08, 2014, 02:35:43 PM
Why is it that bodybuilders are afraid of real jobs, I have heard many bodybuilders say that they are forced to do g4p, prostitution etc cause they dont have money, are they not aware that there are real jobs available if you are willing to work or is it that they are just lazy and dont like to work,






Working a 9 to 5 job will ruin your anabolic window.



WoooSSHHHH  BEyE kE
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 08, 2014, 02:40:35 PM
Besides If youre a Bodybuilder you don't have to work in something embarrassing or Immoral .... you can always  be a Bouncer at a club  or security  on Jerry Springer  show.



WoooSSHHH  Be ye Ke
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: the trainer on July 08, 2014, 03:13:50 PM
Fireman is a great job for a bodybuilder cause if there is no fire you sit around all day doing nothing.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Simple Simon on July 08, 2014, 03:20:11 PM
Fireman is a great job for a bodybuilder cause if there is no fire you sit around all day doing nothing.
You need to be able to climb a ladder without gassing.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: ESFitness on July 08, 2014, 03:24:29 PM
well, if you wanna be a bodybuilder, the one thing you DON'T want to do is work in a gym, own a gym, run a gym, or anything related TO the gym.

it's like a guy who loves pizza, then gets a job in Papa Johns... last thing he wants to do is EAT pizza now since it's no longer something to look forward to.. no longer an 'escape' of some sort.

just like the automotive tech who works on other ppls cars all day long, but can't get around to changing out his fan belts or doing his own oil change.

I'd go back to prop-trading in a heartbeat. out of bed at 5.. watch CNBC, check Bloomberg, watch CNN/BBC, trade from 6am till 1pm while watching people talk on TV, watching your screens, looking at charts, eating what you want, when you want, at your own desk in your own home... then do post market stuff/trades/research etc... then eat more.. then hit the gym at 5pm/primetime.. eat, and in bed by 9/10pm.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Simple Simon on July 08, 2014, 03:25:42 PM
well, if you wanna be a bodybuilder, the one thing you DON'T want to do is work in a gym, own a gym, run a gym, or anything related TO the gym.

it's like a guy who loves pizza, then gets a job in Papa Johns... last thing he wants to do is EAT pizza now since it's no longer something to look forward to.. no longer an 'escape' of some sort.

just like the automotive tech who works on other ppls cars all day long, but can't get around to changing out his fan belts or doing his own oil change.

I'd go back to prop-trading in a heartbeat. out of bed at 5.. watch CNBC, check Bloomberg, watch CNN/BBC, trade from 6am till 1pm while watching people talk on TV, watching your screens, looking at charts, eating what you want, when you want, at your own desk in your own home... then do post market stuff/trades/research etc... then eat more.. then hit the gym at 5pm/primetime.. eat, and in bed by 9/10pm.
I read that too fast, I thought it said "poop"   ;D
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Teutonic Knight on July 08, 2014, 03:26:49 PM
Don't be silly.  Bodybuilders work for supplement companies.  Usually in the bio chemistry departments.





 ::) ::) ::)
So why 4-6 of them live in 1 bedroom place,  :D
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: wild willie on July 08, 2014, 03:28:19 PM
you fuckers slay me......you guys post away on getbig and then complain about bbers not having a 9-5 job......lol
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: kh300 on July 08, 2014, 03:42:43 PM
I think what happens is the bodybuilders who have gone out and gotten real jobs give up bodybuilding. So the only thing left is bodybuilders who never got a real job and continue bodybuilding because they know no better.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Primemuscle on July 08, 2014, 10:39:11 PM
Why is it that bodybuilders are afraid of real jobs, I have heard many bodybuilders say that they are forced to do g4p, prostitution etc cause they dont have money, are they not aware that there are real jobs available if you are willing to work or is it that they are just lazy and dont like to work,





Some, certainly not all bodybuilders suffer ergophobia.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: OTHstrong on July 08, 2014, 10:44:59 PM
Why is it that bodybuilders are afraid of real jobs, I have heard many bodybuilders say that they are forced to do g4p, prostitution etc cause they dont have money, are they not aware that there are real jobs available if you are willing to work or is it that they are just lazy and dont like to work,




excellent thread, there is no excuse for not being a man and working hard for a living. I walked into a roofing company and begged for a job for 14 bucks an hour and slaved it for years then went on my own as an independent contractor making almost double, then started my own business from the ground, now make my own work, get the jobs, have a crew and make my own hours and have a lot of freedom, fucken lazy muthaf... bodybuilders FFS.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Primemuscle on July 08, 2014, 10:51:23 PM
excellent thread, there is no excuse for not being a man and working hard for a living. I walked into a roofing company and begged for a job for 14 bucks an hour and slaved it for years then went on my own as an independent contractor making almost double, then started my own business from the ground, now make my own work, get the jobs, have a crew and make my own hours and have a lot of freedom, fucken lazy muthaf... bodybuilders FFS.

My stepdad was a painting contractor. Like you, he started out working for someone else and moved into contracting. Being self-employed has benefits. It is also hard work. Kudos to you for being ambitious enough to strike out on your own and for making a success of this.

I was too chicken shit to do this, so I ended up working for someone else my entire work life. In the end, it paid off for me. I have a nice retirement income which is fairly secure.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: OTHstrong on July 08, 2014, 10:54:21 PM
My stepdad was a painting contractor. Like you he started out working for someone else and moved into contracting. Being self-employed has benefits. It is also hard work. Kudos to you for being ambitious enough to strike out on your own and for making a success of this.

I was too chicken shit to do this, so I ended up working for someone else my entire work life. In the end, it paid off for me. I have a nice retirement income which is fairly secure.
hey bro props to you too, work is work, whether on your own or for someone, you stuck it out and now enjoying yourself
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Simple Simon on July 09, 2014, 12:20:34 AM
excellent thread, there is no excuse for not being a man and working hard for a living. I walked into a roofing company and begged for a job for 14 bucks an hour and slaved it for years then went on my own as an independent contractor making almost double, then started my own business from the ground, now make my own work, get the jobs, have a crew and make my own hours and have a lot of freedom, fucken lazy muthaf... bodybuilders FFS.

Unfortunatly all that time spent at work has kept you under 200lbs.



Just kidding mate.    ;D
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: OTHstrong on July 09, 2014, 12:34:29 AM
Unfortunatly all that time spent at work has kept you under 200lbs.



Just kidding mate.    ;D
actually you are not incorrect, fucken hard to gain weight doing 10+ hours in the sun, also no appetite, some days from morning to night I would lose as much as 8-9 lb. which is why i want to give it one more go now that I work a lot less  ;)
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Simple Simon on July 09, 2014, 12:39:45 AM
actually you are not incorrect, fucken hard to gain weight doing 10+ hours in the sun, also no appetite, some days from morning to night I would lose as much as 8-9 lb. which is why i want to give it one more go now that I work a lot less  ;)
I used to work 12 hours a day 6 days a week, tried drinking 12 pints of milk a day to gain weight, nothing, not a pound.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Conker on July 09, 2014, 01:55:39 AM
bums and ponces are prevalent in all walks of life not exclusive to bodybuilding. some people are just lazy and or have no talent. i know of plenty big guys who are successful not all g4pay ponces who sell their aholes for a few vials of GH.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Sophus on July 09, 2014, 02:44:50 AM
In most cases these guys have an average level of education

So by selling their ability to work in a standard way one would be able to pay for a flat, all the food and some grams of gear/w

But then you need all those other drugs that this "sport" requires to be successful

Like gh

And then people start sucking cock for money, and its good money if you have a physique like the new guy here
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Skorp1o on July 09, 2014, 03:38:27 AM
well, if you wanna be a bodybuilder, the one thing you DON'T want to do is work in a gym, own a gym, run a gym, or anything related TO the gym.

it's like a guy who loves pizza, then gets a job in Papa Johns... last thing he wants to do is EAT pizza now since it's no longer something to look forward to.. no longer an 'escape' of some sort.

just like the automotive tech who works on other ppls cars all day long, but can't get around to changing out his fan belts or doing his own oil change.

I'd go back to prop-trading in a heartbeat. out of bed at 5.. watch CNBC, check Bloomberg, watch CNN/BBC, trade from 6am till 1pm while watching people talk on TV, watching your screens, looking at charts, eating what you want, when you want, at your own desk in your own home... then do post market stuff/trades/research etc... then eat more.. then hit the gym at 5pm/primetime.. eat, and in bed by 9/10pm.

How do you trade at 6am when the US markets don't open til after 9am?
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Simple Simon on July 09, 2014, 03:40:14 AM
How do you trade at 6am when the US markets don't open til after 9am?
Simple, he tells them to open.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: wolfrittner on July 09, 2014, 04:10:25 AM

(http://airstre.am/dopamine72/Nicolas%20Cage%20Laugh.gif)
:D :D
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Skorp1o on July 09, 2014, 04:20:03 AM
Simple, he tells them to open.

CA is 3 hours behind thanks to a insider dealing tip  :P

But news from BBC and CNBC won't cut the mustard, needs direct news feed from company announcements to reach you as they go out in the UK we have www.investegate.co.uk, analysts ratings and research to reach you directly as well....etc, for this you need paying platforms, they are really worth their money www.morningstar.co.uk is another valuable resource. This way you can act on it within seconds/minutes and when the market absorbs  it you reap up the benefits or avoid/sell to avoid losses.

TBH I know two day traders and most days they just sit on their long/medium, opportunities to do a day trade are far and in between.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: bigmc on July 09, 2014, 04:35:31 AM
CA is 3 hours behind thanks to a insider dealing tip  :P

But news from BBC and CNBC won't cut the mustard, needs direct news feed from company announcements to reach you as they go out in the UK we have www.investegate.co.uk, analysts ratings and research to reach you directly as well....etc, for this you need paying platforms, they are really worth their money www.morningstar.co.uk is another valuable resource. This way you can act on it within seconds/minutes and when the market absorbs  it you reap up the benefits or avoid/sell to avoid losses.

TBH I know two day traders and most days they just sit on their long/medium, opportunities to do a day trade are far and in between.

are you saying that esf fitness might be stretching the truth  ???

I find all his stories credible

a 300lb prison fighting champion multi millionaire

sounds plausible to me
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on July 09, 2014, 04:56:16 AM
Become a chef...
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Skorp1o on July 09, 2014, 04:56:32 AM
are you saying that esf fitness might be stretching the truth  ???

I find all his stories credible

a 300lb prison fighting champion multi millionaire

sounds plausible to me

Of course it sounds plausible, all you have to do is let the guitar stitches heal, then wake up at 6am Cali time ready for CNBC news giving you a heads up before everyone else to splash your cash around the NASDAQ and by 1pm sell your holdings to realise the profits then go to the gym...tomorrow same thing.

Nick Toscani just finished trading, I hear he's already in the Bahamas enjoying the afternoon:

(http://www.canuckabroad.com/places/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/12073644-yacht-zingara-at-anchor-in-the-virgin-islands.jpg)


Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: MCWAY on July 09, 2014, 08:32:37 AM
Hahahah! To think he was a REAL cop doing REAL cop work, all when he couldn't even fit into a bulletproof vest, is laughable!

He was a real cop; and he was such before he became a bodybuilder. Sergio Oliva was a cop, too.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: MCWAY on July 09, 2014, 08:40:48 AM
Why is it that bodybuilders are afraid of real jobs, I have heard many bodybuilders say that they are forced to do g4p, prostitution etc cause they dont have money, are they not aware that there are real jobs available if you are willing to work or is it that they are just lazy and dont like to work,






Bodybuilders aren't afraid of real jobs. Most have them. You are overemphasizing the few that do foolishness like gay prostitution and pretending that such goes for the bulk of competitors.

Ronnie Coleman was a cop; Porter Cottrell was a firefighter, as is Steve Kuclo. David Henry is in the Air Force. Lee Labrada and the late Nasser El Sonbaty were engineers. Marks Ruhl (believe it or not) sold used cars. Mark Dugdale owns a vegetable company in Washington (state). The late Don Youngblood owned a trucking company. Then, there's Lee Banks, who runs day care centers in Florida, where he occasionally dresses as a giant duck.

And that's just a small example.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Skorp1o on July 09, 2014, 08:47:40 AM
The funny thing is that Nick Toscani actually is a trader in all seriousness

I work in the industry, jizzin on yourself is not considered a common trading practice for hedging your exposure to risk.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: the trainer on July 09, 2014, 09:37:48 AM
The funny thing is that Nick Toscani actually is a trader in all seriousness

You are 100 percent in saying that nick is a trader cause he trades his dick and ass for cash.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: _aj_ on July 09, 2014, 11:05:54 AM
CA is 3 hours behind thanks to a insider dealing tip  :P

But news from BBC and CNBC won't cut the mustard, needs direct news feed from company announcements to reach you as they go out in the UK we have www.investegate.co.uk, analysts ratings and research to reach you directly as well....etc, for this you need paying platforms, they are really worth their money www.morningstar.co.uk is another valuable resource. This way you can act on it within seconds/minutes and when the market absorbs  it you reap up the benefits or avoid/sell to avoid losses.

TBH I know two day traders and most days they just sit on their long/medium, opportunities to do a day trade are far and in between.

Who the fuck can day trade against a rigged HFT market anyway? A comcast cablemodem won't do fuck-all against a JPM super-computer located 2ms away from the NASDAQ mainframe.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: ESFitness on July 09, 2014, 11:13:54 AM
Who the fuck can day trade against a rigged HFT market anyway? A comcast cablemodem won't do fuck-all against a JPM super-computer located 2ms away from the NASDAQ mainframe.

all you're trying to do as a day trader is catch a little bit of the % of the stock's pop... if it pops 3%, I'm not expecting to be in on that first 15 and sell at the last of that 3%.. i want that middle 1% and I'm out, just enough to cover transaction costs and turn a profit. guys that want that entire 3% are the ones who lose their ass and are out in 2 months.

I'd much rather trade shorts all day.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: ESFitness on July 09, 2014, 11:15:44 AM
How do you trade at 6am when the US markets don't open til after 9am?

6am in CA is 9am in NY buddy.

there's these things called time zones.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: ESFitness on July 09, 2014, 11:18:32 AM
CA is 3 hours behind thanks to a insider dealing tip  :P

But news from BBC and CNBC won't cut the mustard, needs direct news feed from company announcements to reach you as they go out in the UK we have www.investegate.co.uk, analysts ratings and research to reach you directly as well....etc, for this you need paying platforms, they are really worth their money www.morningstar.co.uk is another valuable resource. This way you can act on it within seconds/minutes and when the market absorbs  it you reap up the benefits or avoid/sell to avoid losses.

TBH I know two day traders and most days they just sit on their long/medium, opportunities to do a day trade are far and in between.

well no shit.

what do you think I'm using? etrade on a dell laptop?
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: _aj_ on July 09, 2014, 11:22:29 AM
I'd much rather trade shorts all day.

Until you fall asleep at the switch and get margin-called  :-\

I am long into things that are tangible: real estate and physical commodities (metals). I have been out of equities since 2008 and will NOT be going back. Fuck the Fed and their plans for my money.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: 2Thick on July 09, 2014, 11:42:18 AM
I thought you said you were in prison when you were day trading? And you were doing it by phone?

well, if you wanna be a bodybuilder, the one thing you DON'T want to do is work in a gym, own a gym, run a gym, or anything related TO the gym.

it's like a guy who loves pizza, then gets a job in Papa Johns... last thing he wants to do is EAT pizza now since it's no longer something to look forward to.. no longer an 'escape' of some sort.

just like the automotive tech who works on other ppls cars all day long, but can't get around to changing out his fan belts or doing his own oil change.

I'd go back to prop-trading in a heartbeat. out of bed at 5.. watch CNBC, check Bloomberg, watch CNN/BBC, trade from 6am till 1pm while watching people talk on TV, watching your screens, looking at charts, eating what you want, when you want, at your own desk in your own home... then do post market stuff/trades/research etc... then eat more.. then hit the gym at 5pm/primetime.. eat, and in bed by 9/10pm.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: the trainer on July 09, 2014, 11:45:55 AM
I thought you said you were in prison when you were day trading? And you were doing it by phone?

He has connections in prison like the mafia does.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Simple Simon on July 09, 2014, 11:48:11 AM
He has connections in prison like the mafia does.
It was like Goodfellas for him.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: 2Thick on July 09, 2014, 11:49:12 AM
Until you fall asleep at the switch and get margin-called  :-\

I am long into things that are tangible: real estate and physical commodities (metals). I have been out of equities since 2008 and will NOT be going back. Fuck the Fed and their plans for my money.

Invest on fundamentals. Mostly bottom-up. And don't pay attention to what others are doing or say they are doing. Take the ego out of it.

Many people who actually do invest will exaggerate, and most who claim to day trade lie - they either went broke in a year or 2 or less, or they make the whole thing up as they go along. Transaction costs and realized losses from trying to compete with automated HFT systems eat them alive. And just about all information that moves stocks either way is released outside of market hours. Very little movement occurs very often between 9:30 am and 4 pm EST. You make most of your money when your longs open up higher today than they closed yesterday, and shorts open up lower today than they were yesterday. And puts are much safer than shorts.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Mr. MB on July 09, 2014, 12:05:28 PM
Over the past 60+ years I have been in and around Bodybuilding I have noted the happiest Bodybuilders have regular 40-60 hour weeks in private industry, medical related fields and or government. A few that tried to live off the sport as gym owners, nutrition store owners have made it that way....but earn no more than the worker bees out in industry.'Almost all' private trainers have failed unless they are married to a second income. Some  exceptions...not many. A few top tier pros with contracts do OK. Other pros struggle.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: _aj_ on July 09, 2014, 12:11:11 PM
Over the past 60+ years I have been in and around Bodybuilding I have noted the happiest Bodybuilders have regular 40-60 hour weeks in private industry, medical related fields and or government. A few that tried to live off the sport as gym owners, nutrition store owners have made it that way....but earn no more than the worker bees out in industry.'Almost all' private trainers have failed unless they are married to a second income. Some  exceptions...not many. A few top tier pros with contracts do OK. Other pros struggle.

In other words: it's a hobby, not a profession and sure as fuck not a "way of life"
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: syntaxmachine on July 09, 2014, 12:12:20 PM
6am in CA is 9am in NY buddy.

there's these things called time zones.

Ouch, Slurp1nHo's assault easily parried as a result of this blunder.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: the trainer on July 09, 2014, 12:19:03 PM
 If you are not a super genetic freak then bodybuilding should be a hobby not a job, I see so many guys with average genes saying they want to be pros and trying to live the lifestyle 24/7, then they start pushing 40 and finally realize that they will never be a pro and they have no skills  so they end up old and broke.

 The smart thing to do is get a career and if you make it in bodybuilding then you can quit your day job and if not its just business as usual.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Skorp1o on July 09, 2014, 12:39:52 PM
Ouch, Slurp1nHo's assault easily parried as a result of this blunder.


I already said hours before he came abt the ca ny 3hrs...I didn't know where he lived.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Simple Simon on July 09, 2014, 12:42:52 PM
If you are not a super genetic freak then bodybuilding should be a hobby not a job, I see so many guys with average genes saying they want to be pros and trying to live the lifestyle 24/7, then they start pushing 40 and finally realize that they will never be a pro and they have no skills  so they end up old and broke.

 The smart thing to do is get a career and if you make it in bodybuilding then you can quit your day job and if not its just business as usual.

I have a job and also look phenomenal thanks.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: ESFitness on July 09, 2014, 01:38:31 PM
I thought you said you were in prison when you were day trading? And you were doing it by phone?


yep. used excel spreedsheets at the work computers (had to pay a guy $40 to smuggle me in a USB thumbdrive), and had to factor in the cost of the phone calls into transaction costs (calls aren't cheap.. found a way around that by using Magic Jack.. not me using magic jack, but the person I called everyday), and had to work with day old WSJ and IBD's along with news on TV (I had a tv, of course), and did a lot of handwritten paperwork with a little $3 calculator. don't forget, I was trading during the crash, so a lot of my profits were from short positions.... I'd much, much rather trade in a bear market.

I'd traded years before as well though after being introduced to it by an ex gf's roommate.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Simple Simon on July 09, 2014, 01:40:15 PM
yep. used excel spreedsheets at the work computers (had to pay a guy $40 to smuggle me in a USB thumbdrive), and had to factor in the cost of the phone calls into transaction costs (calls aren't cheap.. found a way around that by using Magic Jack.. not me using magic jack, but the person I called everyday), and had to work with day old WSJ and IBD's along with news on TV (I had a tv, of course), and did a lot of handwritten paperwork with a little $3 calculator. don't forget, I was trading during the crash, so a lot of my profits were from short positions.... I'd much, much rather trade in a bear market.

I'd traded years before as well though after being introduced to it by an ex gf's roommate.

Sounds like you really did "hard time"
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: ESFitness on July 09, 2014, 01:43:24 PM
He has connections in prison like the mafia does.

yea, it's called a telephone/phone cards, wall street journal, investors biz daily, cnbc, cnn, and fox news.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Simple Simon on July 09, 2014, 01:44:29 PM
yea, it's called a telephone/phone cards, wall street journal, investors biz daily, cnbc, cnn, and fox news.
Lockdown.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: wild willie on July 09, 2014, 02:25:24 PM

Bodybuilders aren't afraid of real jobs. Most have them. You are overemphasizing the few that do foolishness like gay prostitution and pretending that such goes for the bulk of competitors.

Ronnie Coleman was a cop; Porter Cottrell was a firefighter, as is Steve Kuclo. David Henry is in the Air Force. Lee Labrada and the late Nasser El Sonbaty were engineers. Marks Ruhl (believe it or not) sold used cars. Mark Dugdale owns a vegetable company in Washington (state). The late Don Youngblood owned a trucking company. Then, there's Lee Banks, who runs day care centers in Florida, where he occasionally dresses as a giant duck.

And that's just a small example.

excellent post.......very good examples of bbers with legitimate jobs.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: ESFitness on July 09, 2014, 02:34:32 PM
everybody forgets, bbing can be expensive... especially back in the day before ugls, and even with Mexican/aussie vet products, stuff was expensive, and the risk of getting burned was very real.

not to mention the cost of food... and the cost of supplements back in the day (before discount internet commerce).

if you wanted a bbing vid to motivate you, you had to drop $40 on a vhs tape and watch that fucker till it was blurry.

it was quite the eye opener when I found out a very large number of the bbers I saw in the mags growing up were living off of insecure, financially stable girlfriends.. usually for about 6-12months at a time till they got kicked out and slept on friends couches till they found another poor dumb girl to max out her credit cards. (not to mention, many of them are coke/meth/pain killer addicts)
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: 2Thick on July 09, 2014, 02:58:15 PM
Lockdown.

Which one was him?

Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: syntaxmachine on July 09, 2014, 06:46:49 PM
I already said hours before he came abt the ca ny 3hrs...I didn't know where he lived.

You knew he was Americano and thus that there was a 96% chance (48/50) that premarket trading would be open at 0600 in his state. Yet you presented the time issue as potential evidence of a lie.

It's ok, mate: the UK is the size of one of America's toes, hence your confusion with time zones. I don't blame you.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: weekend prince on July 09, 2014, 07:23:05 PM
partaking in the study and, act of schmoeology seems favorable for most.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Primemuscle on July 09, 2014, 07:26:21 PM
I used to work 12 hours a day 6 days a week, tried drinking 12 pints of milk a day to gain weight, nothing, not a pound.

Find a dairy farmer, drink the whole milk you get from them and I guarantee you will bulk up! Not afraid of real unpasteurized milk are you?
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Primemuscle on July 09, 2014, 07:30:18 PM
For the last many years of my career, I had a sedentary job which rarely moved me away from my desk. There is nothing worse than this kind of job for bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: The Scott on July 09, 2014, 07:33:04 PM
I suppose in the vernacular of their "trade" - "Why work, when you can jerk?"


Lazy, stupid, won't even get a job at the Woolsworth sellin' Flair Pens kind of people, that's bodybuilders.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: ESFitness on July 09, 2014, 09:32:32 PM
For the last many years of my career, I had a sedentary job which rarely moved me away from my desk. There is nothing worse than this kind of job for bodybuilding.

huh?

I'd much, much rather sit at a desk and do spreadsheets all day.

Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Primemuscle on July 09, 2014, 11:58:26 PM
huh?

I'd much, much rather sit at a desk and do spreadsheets all day.



Perhaps, but it is contrary to good health. At least buy yourself a stand up desk. A body in motion. stays in motion.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: ESFitness on July 10, 2014, 12:15:19 AM
Perhaps, but it is contrary to good health. At least buy yourself a stand up desk. A body in motion. stays in motion.

walking around all day.. standing up all day.. carrying shit all day.

.. all that shit DRAINS you and wears you down day after day. saps any desire to train afterwards.

Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Skorp1o on July 10, 2014, 12:55:23 AM
walking around all day.. standing up all day.. carrying shit all day.

.. all that shit DRAINS you and wears you down day after day. saps any desire to train afterwards.

Agreed

I have a desk job, would rather do this. In my university days I did a couple of temp manual jobs, I would get home shattered with strained joints, my knees definitely did not take kindly to standing up a whole days work, not in the parking lot not in the grocery store not anywhere.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Simple Simon on July 10, 2014, 12:56:09 AM
Agreed

I have a desk job, would rather do this. In my university days I did a couple of part-time/temp manual jobs, I would get home shattered and sometimes with strained joints, my knees definitely did not take kindly to standing up a whole days work, not in the parking lot not in the grocery store not anywhere.

 ;D
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Tapeworm on July 10, 2014, 06:10:00 AM
I used to work 12 hours a day 6 days a week, tried drinking 12 pints of milk a day to gain weight, nothing, not a pound.

2 gallons of milk a day.  :o  How many toilets did you have to replace?


Find a dairy farmer, drink the whole milk you get from them and I guarantee you will bulk up! Not afraid of real unpasteurized milk are you?

I doubt pasteurization would have an effect on calories.  On top of which he's full of shit unless the milk replaced, rather than supplemented, his usual calories. 

Nutritionally, I think it will destroy some enzymes, such as lactase (which might save him some $ on toilet replacement), but that's more than offset by the fact that pasteurization kills lots of really bad bugs.  Tuberculosis is the prime risk with raw milk.  It's afficionados and purveyors don't really publicize that.  Please ask a doctor if you're a big time raw milk guy.


Agreed

I have a desk job, would rather do this. In my university days I did a couple of temp manual jobs, I would get home shattered with strained joints, my knees definitely did not take kindly to standing up a whole days work, not in the parking lot not in the grocery store not anywhere.

No surprise.  They had you sitting at a desk since you were 6yo.  I'm sorry to hear you were unable to break free of the cycle.  :(  Don't lose hope.  It's never too late get a real man's job.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: _aj_ on July 10, 2014, 06:37:22 AM
No surprise.  They had you sitting at a desk since you were 6yo.  I'm sorry to hear you were unable to break free of the cycle.  :(  Don't lose hope.  It's never too late get a real man's job.

Yes, I am sure that Skorp is actively looking to emulate your lifestyle...

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Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: gracie bjj on July 10, 2014, 07:14:28 AM
when i was into my little competing faze,lol, i was working 12 hr days, id go to diamond gym at 430am n train till 645am, then go to work from 7am to 7pm,then come home n do 30 minuts cardio n take shower n go to bed around 9pm every night, i was alot younger n wasnt married n my life revolved around gettin as much pussy as possible till my dick got raw, n i also worked at a brazilian nightclub doing security on frid n saturday nights, talk about pussy all over the place :o man that was pussy heaven :D
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: falco on July 10, 2014, 07:18:43 AM
Find a dairy farmer, drink the whole milk you get from them and I guarantee you will bulk up! Not afraid of real unpasteurized milk are you?

Whole milk is disgusting and very harsh on the liver.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: _aj_ on July 10, 2014, 07:21:41 AM
Whole milk is disgusting and very harsh on the liver.

The liver is quite the pussy of an organ. Everything is "harsh" on it.

FFS, life is "harsh on the liver"
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: the trainer on July 10, 2014, 07:25:27 AM
Whole milk is disgusting and very harsh on the liver.

You are totally illiterate about nutrition, unpasteurized whole milk from grass fed cows is the most anabolic milk you can drink, try that shit and you will put on some size.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Skorp1o on July 10, 2014, 07:56:06 AM
You are totally illiterate about nutrition, unpasteurized whole milk from grass fed cows is the most anabolic milk you can drink, try that shit and you will put on some size.

yes Falco...if you can't listen to a guy who's about 6 feet tall, about 250lbs, about 8%, then I don't know.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Tapeworm on July 10, 2014, 08:10:23 AM
Yes, I am sure that Skorp is actively looking to emulate your lifestyle...

(http://images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org/09/2/1/5/48293412365554916.jpg)

 ???  I don't wear glasses.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Primemuscle on July 10, 2014, 09:21:35 AM
I doubt pasteurization would have an effect on calories.  On top of which he's full of shit unless the milk replaced, rather than supplemented, his usual calories. 

Nutritionally, I think it will destroy some enzymes, such as lactase (which might save him some $ on toilet replacement), but that's more than offset by the fact that pasteurization kills lots of really bad bugs.  Tuberculosis is the prime risk with raw milk.  It's afficionados and purveyors don't really publicize that.  Please ask a doctor if you're a big time raw milk guy.

I was recalling a time when a co-worker was bringing me milk from his farm and I gained a lot of weight. I assumed it was not pasteurized, but I was practically still a kid and I didn't give it much thought. One thing I remember is having to shake the cream down from the top. Anyway, the post wasn't meant as a health tip.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Primemuscle on July 10, 2014, 09:35:13 AM
You are totally illiterate about nutrition, unpasteurized whole milk from grass fed cows is the most anabolic milk you can drink, try that shit and you will put on some size.

Milk fat can give the immune system and metabolism a boost, making milk with higher fat content a source of unexpected physiological benefits. For example, the nutrients found in whole milk can decrease the risk of infertility in women, lower the possibility of colorectal cancer for men, and even help build muscle throughout the body.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: MCWAY on July 10, 2014, 09:38:22 AM
everybody forgets, bbing can be expensive... especially back in the day before ugls, and even with Mexican/aussie vet products, stuff was expensive, and the risk of getting burned was very real.

not to mention the cost of food... and the cost of supplements back in the day (before discount internet commerce).

if you wanted a bbing vid to motivate you, you had to drop $40 on a vhs tape and watch that fucker till it was blurry.

it was quite the eye opener when I found out a very large number of the bbers I saw in the mags growing up were living off of insecure, financially stable girlfriends.. usually for about 6-12months at a time till they got kicked out and slept on friends couches till they found another poor dumb girl to max out her credit cards. (not to mention, many of them are coke/meth/pain killer addicts)

The operative words are "CAN BE EXPENSIVE". I can't speak on the drug stuff. But, as far as the rest goes.....

Food: Buy in bulk, when possible; go vegetarian if necessary. Milk and eggs are cheaper than meat. Get you other proteins from legumes and grains and learn which combos make complete proteins.

Gym: Get the cheapest you can find; dredge up them old-school cement weights, if necessary.

Supplements: Unless you can get them on clearance, use them sparingly with emphasis on protein powders.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: the trainer on July 10, 2014, 10:01:16 AM
The operative words are "CAN BE EXPENSIVE". I can't speak on the drug stuff. But, as far as the rest goes.....

Food: Buy in bulk, when possible; go vegetarian if necessary. Milk and eggs are cheaper than meat. Get you other proteins from legumes and grains and learn which combos make complete proteins.

Gym: Get the cheapest you can find; dredge up them old-school cement weights, if necessary.

Supplements: Unless you can get them on clearance, use them sparingly with emphasis on protein powders.

Man cannot make food more anabolic than nature can which is why i am not a fan of whey protein, its processed with heat giving it higher levels of  acidity  toxicity which is not good for the body then sweeten with artificial sweeteners, just drink whole milk.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: MCWAY on July 10, 2014, 10:28:33 AM
Man cannot make food more anabolic than nature can which is why i am not a fan of whey protein, its processed with heat giving it higher levels of  acidity  toxicity which is not good for the body then sweeten with artificial sweeteners, just drink whole milk.

The problem with that is lactose. If you're intolerant, you end up buying a bunch of Lactaid which negates the savings aspect.

Plus, I wasn't speaking about protein powder being more or less anabolic. The emphasis is simply on being cheap. With certain clearance sales (particularly at GNC), whey protein is cheaper than milk and eggs.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: goomba420 on July 10, 2014, 10:34:16 AM
yep. used excel spreedsheets at the work computers (had to pay a guy $40 to smuggle me in a USB thumbdrive), and had to factor in the cost of the phone calls into transaction costs (calls aren't cheap.. found a way around that by using Magic Jack.. not me using magic jack, but the person I called everyday), and had to work with day old WSJ and IBD's along with news on TV (I had a tv, of course), and did a lot of handwritten paperwork with a little $3 calculator. don't forget, I was trading during the crash, so a lot of my profits were from short positions.... I'd much, much rather trade in a bear market.

I'd traded years before as well though after being introduced to it by an ex gf's roommate.

LMAO, it never ends with this fucking guy. Why don't you pitch your life story to HBO and make a series out of it?

Former drugs smuggler / bodybuilder Eric Scott is serving time for a felony, but he's a little different from the others.. A hardcore iron-lifter by day, Eric retreats to the corner of his cell in the night, and precariously looks through CNN, fox and MSNBC's stock sections, building a massive fortune outside of jail. Now he's out, on parole, and is a full-time stock analyst.. or so they thought.

*cut to Eric Scott breaking mexican pharmacy window and running out with bags full of vials and ED medication*

*cut to explosion of vehicle following botched steroid deal*

*cut to passionate argument between eric and former female companion*

And finally,

* 7AM alarm clock sounds, cut to scene of morning vehicular rush hour, pan to Berkshire Hathaway office, ambient keyboard clicking in background*

Coming June 2015.

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I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.

ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.

spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.

the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.

Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: _aj_ on July 10, 2014, 12:03:58 PM
LMAO, it never ends with this fucking guy. Why don't you pitch your life story to HBO and make a series out of it?

Former drugs smuggler / bodybuilder Eric Scott is serving time for a felony, but he's a little different from the others.. A hardcore iron-lifter by day, Eric retreats to the corner of his cell in the night, and precariously looks through CNN, fox and MSNBC's stock sections and builds a massive fortune outside of jail. Now he's out, on parole, and is a full-time stock analyst.. or so they thought.

*cut to Eric Scott breaking mexican pharmacy window and running out with bags full of vials and ED medication*

*cut to explosion of vehicle following botched steroid deal*

*cut to passionate argument between eric and former female companion*

And finally,

* 7AM alarm clock sounds, cut to scene of morning vehicular rush hour, pan to Berkshire Hathaway office, ambient keyboard clicking in background*

Coming June 2015.



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Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: ESFitness on July 10, 2014, 01:13:28 PM
not on parole buddy.

wasn't in a cell.
Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: Simple Simon on July 10, 2014, 01:24:09 PM
not on parole buddy.

wasn't in a cell.
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Title: Re: Jobs and bodybuilders
Post by: drmarkp on July 10, 2014, 07:49:51 PM
Man cannot make food more anabolic than nature can which is why i am not a fan of whey protein, its processed with heat giving it higher levels of  acidity  toxicity which is not good for the body then sweeten with artificial sweeteners, just drink whole milk.

Your probably 100% correct.. The only reason I use whey is because that tastes good in my oatmeal...