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Title: Steroids in PrideFC + chael Sonnen NSAC hearing
Post by: Tyr on July 20, 2014, 06:32:35 PM
For many years fans have speculated over how prevalent steroids were at the height of Pride Fighting Championships run as the premier organisation in mixed martial arts. There have been many rumours, and fighters themselves have spoken out about the use of performance enhancing drugs in the Pride era.

Seeing it in black and white should put it to bed.

Enson Inoue, Shooto and Pride veteran (and 1-0 in the UFC), posted what is reportedly an excerpt from his Pride contract which isn't ambiguous in the least.

(http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/assets/4784588/prideroidcontract.jpg)

As you can see above, recreational drugs were tested for, but 'performance enhancing stimulants of (the) steroid based family' were 'specifically excluded from the scope of the test'.

In layman's terms, they weren't looking for any steroids. So in theory, a fighter could use them without having to worry about being caught. It doesn't say that steroids are fine and that fighters should use them, but what you see above is about as far away from a deterrent to using performance enhancing drugs as you can find.

Another aspect of Pride was its connections with the Yakuza, and Inoue himself has had to answer allegations of being Yakuza affiliated himself. He spoke about Yakuza involvement, not just Pride, but in all aspects of Japanese business in culture on the Joe Rogan Experience, and I'd recommend watching if you've not looked much into the history of Japanese MMA before.

Another criticism of Pride FC was that the fights were fixed. Gary Goodridge touched on this.

None of this is a revelation to any of us that have witnessed the rise and fall of Japanese MMA, but it's probably the final nail in the coffin in terms of the long running debate as to how much steroids played a part in the fights we continue to discuss to this day.
Title: Re: Steroids in PrideFC
Post by: Royalty on July 26, 2014, 05:47:40 PM
I think that if steroids never existed; guys like Kerr, Coleman, Randleman would've never competed in MMA. They would've remained in amateur wrestling.
Title: Re: Steroids in PrideFC
Post by: King Shizzo on July 27, 2014, 06:23:47 AM
For many years fans have speculated over how prevalent steroids were at the height of Pride Fighting Championships run as the premier organisation in mixed martial arts. There have been many rumours, and fighters themselves have spoken out about the use of performance enhancing drugs in the Pride era.

Seeing it in black and white should put it to bed.

Enson Inoue, Shooto and Pride veteran (and 1-0 in the UFC), posted what is reportedly an excerpt from his Pride contract which isn't ambiguous in the least.

(http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/assets/4784588/prideroidcontract.jpg)

As you can see above, recreational drugs were tested for, but 'performance enhancing stimulants of (the) steroid based family' were 'specifically excluded from the scope of the test'.

In layman's terms, they weren't looking for any steroids. So in theory, a fighter could use them without having to worry about being caught. It doesn't say that steroids are fine and that fighters should use them, but what you see above is about as far away from a deterrent to using performance enhancing drugs as you can find.

Another aspect of Pride was its connections with the Yakuza, and Inoue himself has had to answer allegations of being Yakuza affiliated himself. He spoke about Yakuza involvement, not just Pride, but in all aspects of Japanese business in culture on the Joe Rogan Experience, and I'd recommend watching if you've not looked much into the history of Japanese MMA before.

Another criticism of Pride FC was that the fights were fixed. Gary Goodridge touched on this.

None of this is a revelation to any of us that have witnessed the rise and fall of Japanese MMA, but it's probably the final nail in the coffin in terms of the long running debate as to how much steroids played a part in the fights we continue to discuss to this day.
Great post.
Title: Re: Steroids in PrideFC + chael Sonnen NSAC hearing
Post by: Tyr on July 27, 2014, 06:52:38 PM
Title: Re: Steroids in PrideFC
Post by: gracie bjj on August 17, 2014, 03:28:03 AM
I think that if steroids never existed; guys like Kerr, Coleman, Randleman would've never competed in MMA. They would've remained in amateur wrestling.

i heard from a really good source(retired pride and ufc fighter) that more than a 3rd of all pride fighters where using steroids or other PED,S,back in late 90,s till they sold out to UFC,especially the bigger guys n 185lbs guys.