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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 03, 2014, 08:22:59 PM
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In the hospital....might be taking that last ride. Hopefully he gets well...one of my fav bodybuilders....always kept it real.
Oh, god, where do I begin? I'd have to say that everything that led to my heart problem began the minute I started getting serious about competitive bodybuilding. In order to get bigger, I'd eat five, six, seven pounds of red meat a day, no vegetables. And I'd stay away from fruits because of their sugar.[6]
Worst were the chemicals. I have so many memories of being alone in a hotel room the week, five days or two days before a contest, and doing unspeakable things to my body—steroids, growth hormones, diuretics—anything and everything that we as bodybuilders do to achieve a certain look.
It has affected my whole life, so to all those guys who are on an eternal quest to have 21" arms and 20" calves, and who are so vain about their never-say-die attitude, I say, "Change your attitude." Worry about keeping that body of yours as healthy as possible, because it's going to have to last you not just through your next contest or to the end of your bodybuilding contract, but for a long time. And a long time for a human being is nothing. It goes by real quick, even quicker when your health is gone and you have nothing to stand live for
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Matarazzo is a good guy, I hope he recovers.
(http://body-world.net/wp-content/gallery/mike-matarazzo/MikeMatarazzo-11.jpg)
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Thank you princess. Is Kim still dating Reggie?
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In the hospital....might be taking that last ride. Hopefully he gets well...one of my fav bodybuilders....always kept it real.
Oh, god, where do I begin? I'd have to say that everything that led to my heart problem began the minute I started getting serious about competitive bodybuilding. In order to get bigger, I'd eat five, six, seven pounds of red meat a day, no vegetables. And I'd stay away from fruits because of their sugar.[6]
Worst were the chemicals. I have so many memories of being alone in a hotel room the week, five days or two days before a contest, and doing unspeakable things to my body—steroids, growth hormones, diuretics—anything and everything that we as bodybuilders do to achieve a certain look.
It has affected my whole life, so to all those guys who are on an eternal quest to have 21" arms and 20" calves, and who are so vain about their never-say-die attitude, I say, "Change your attitude." Worry about keeping that body of yours as healthy as possible, because it's going to have to last you not just through your next contest or to the end of your bodybuilding contract, but for a long time. And a long time for a human being is nothing. It goes by real quick, even quicker when your health is gone and you have nothing to stand live for
damn,,,god bless him.
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He was a beast, wish him the best
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If he has genuine remorse then he has a chance.
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If you lived a safe life then you have not lived at all that is another name for a coward, men who take risks and go to the extreme to achieve their goals are the real men of this world.
Mike should not be remorseful now he should be smiling because he did what he had to do to achieve his goals.
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wow, very sad. Good to see him admitting it was BBing... as opposed to "it was genetic, if anything, diuretics and artificial test kept me healthy!"
praying for him.
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Mike is an experienced bodybuilder with a lot of competitions under his belt. At 48 years of age, he's still a young man. Hope he makes a full recovery.
1991 NPC USA Championships, Heavyweight, 1st and Overall
1991 Mr. Olympia, Did not place
1992 Arnold Classic, 15th
1992 Ironman Pro Invitational, 5th
1993 Marissa Classic, 6th
1993 Night of Champions, 8th
1993 Mr. Olympia, 18th
1993 Pittsburgh Pro Invitational, 2nd
1994 Arnold Classic, 9th
1994 San Jose Pro Invitational, 8th
1995 Florida Pro Invitational, 7th
1995 South Beach Pro Invitational, 7th
1996 Grand Prix Czech Republic, 9th
1996 Grand Prix Russia, 9th
1996 Grand Prix Switzerland, 9th
1996 Night of Champions, 5th
1996 Mr. Olympia, 13th
1997 Canada Pro Cup, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Germany, 11th
1997 Grand Prix Hungary, 10th
1997 Grand Prix Spain, 10th
1997 Night of Champions, 4th
1997 Mr. Olympia, 13th
1997 Toronto Pro Invitational, 2nd
1998 Night of Champions, 3rd
1998 Mr. Olympia, 9th
1998 San Francisco Pro Invitational, 7th
1998 Toronto Pro Invitational, 3rd
1999 Mr. Olympia, 11th
2000 Night of Champions, Did not place
2000 Toronto Pro Invitational, 6t
2001 Night of Champions, 5th
2001 Mr. Olympia, 21st
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He had 1 of my all time favorite builds. Insane thickness, crazy calves. I can respect the honesty, life is what you make it.
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If you lived a safe life then you have not lived at all that is another name for a coward, men who take risks and go to the extreme to achieve their goals are the real men of this world.
Mike should not be remorseful now he should be smiling because he did what he had to do to achieve his goals.
There can still be regrets, even when you know you lived life to the fullest.
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In the hospital....might be taking that last ride. Hopefully he gets well...one of my fav bodybuilders....always kept it real.
Oh, god, where do I begin? I'd have to say that everything that led to my heart problem began the minute I started getting serious about competitive bodybuilding. In order to get bigger, I'd eat five, six, seven pounds of red meat a day, no vegetables. And I'd stay away from fruits because of their sugar.[6]
Worst were the chemicals. I have so many memories of being alone in a hotel room the week, five days or two days before a contest, and doing unspeakable things to my body—steroids, growth hormones, diuretics—anything and everything that we as bodybuilders do to achieve a certain look.
It has affected my whole life, so to all those guys who are on an eternal quest to have 21" arms and 20" calves, and who are so vain about their never-say-die attitude, I say, "Change your attitude." Worry about keeping that body of yours as healthy as possible, because it's going to have to last you not just through your next contest or to the end of your bodybuilding contract, but for a long time. And a long time for a human being is nothing. It goes by real quick, even quicker when your health is gone and you have nothing to stand live for
Where did you hear this might be his "last ride". He's had heart problems for years. Why now all of the sudden this?
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wow, very sad. Good to see him admitting it was BBing... as opposed to "it was genetic, if anything, diuretics and artificial test kept me healthy!"
praying for him.
Well, it was genetic as well. His father had heard issues. And I believe his father died from it. So, genetics and the lifestyle. So, I guess just like what we argue here, it's not "all drugs" but a combonation.
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In the hospital....might be taking that last ride. Hopefully he gets well...one of my fav bodybuilders....always kept it real.
Oh, god, where do I begin? I'd have to say that everything that led to my heart problem began the minute I started getting serious about competitive bodybuilding. In order to get bigger, I'd eat five, six, seven pounds of red meat a day, no vegetables. And I'd stay away from fruits because of their sugar.[6]
Worst were the chemicals. I have so many memories of being alone in a hotel room the week, five days or two days before a contest, and doing unspeakable things to my body—steroids, growth hormones, diuretics—anything and everything that we as bodybuilders do to achieve a certain look.
It has affected my whole life, so to all those guys who are on an eternal quest to have 21" arms and 20" calves, and who are so vain about their never-say-die attitude, I say, "Change your attitude." Worry about keeping that body of yours as healthy as possible, because it's going to have to last you not just through your next contest or to the end of your bodybuilding contract, but for a long time. And a long time for a human being is nothing. It goes by real quick, even quicker when your health is gone and you have nothing to stand live for
Crazy stalker
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One of my favs too. Hope he recovers.
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There can still be regrets, even when you know you lived life to the fullest.
It is one thing to "live life to it's fullest" and quite another to live a life full of crap. He did the latter and as he has admitted, paid the price. Like I said, if he has genuine remorse he has a chance.
Coleman on the other hand, has more crap in him than a bag of natural fertilizer.
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Well, it was genetic as well. His father had heard issues. And I believe his father died from it. So, genetics and the lifestyle. So, I guess just like what we argue here, it's not "all drugs" but a combonation.
When someone is predisposed to heart problems, they need to stay on top of it. My grandfather had a heart condition that required medication. My uncle died of heart failure, but he was 80 something years old and drank like a fish. I had high cholesterol since my mid to late 30's and take meds to help keep it under control.
Bodybuilding can be taxing on one's heart. The more weight one carries, the greater one's heart has to work. It's not a matter of being fat or muscular either. As far as the heart is concerned, excess weight is excess weight. I suspect bodybuilders who lean out as they age, are probably at less risk of having a heart attack or stroke.
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In the hospital....might be taking that last ride. Hopefully he gets well...one of my fav bodybuilders....always kept it real.
Oh, god, where do I begin? I'd have to say that everything that led to my heart problem began the minute I started getting serious about competitive bodybuilding. In order to get bigger, I'd eat five, six, seven pounds of red meat a day, no vegetables. And I'd stay away from fruits because of their sugar.[6]
Worst were the chemicals. I have so many memories of being alone in a hotel room the week, five days or two days before a contest, and doing unspeakable things to my body—steroids, growth hormones, diuretics—anything and everything that we as bodybuilders do to achieve a certain look.
It has affected my whole life, so to all those guys who are on an eternal quest to have 21" arms and 20" calves, and who are so vain about their never-say-die attitude, I say, "Change your attitude." Worry about keeping that body of yours as healthy as possible, because it's going to have to last you not just through your next contest or to the end of your bodybuilding contract, but for a long time. And a long time for a human being is nothing. It goes by real quick, even quicker when your health is gone and you have nothing to stand live for
You moronic hebrew, that post has been on the internet for years.
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It is one thing to "live life to it's fullest" and quite another to live a life full of crap. He did the latter and as he has admitted, paid the price. Like I said, if he has genuine remorse he has a chance.
Coleman on the other hand, has more crap in him than a bag of natural fertilizer.
I am not sure how remorse gives someone a better chance of recovering from health issues. If someone has sinned, it follows that remorse is a step in the right direction. When it comes to health, commitment to living a healthier lifestyle is what will probably help get them through. On the other hand, if one has totally ruined their health, all the remorse in the world won't restore it.
My wife ignored having type II diabetes until it had already caused a lot of damage to her body. She has a lot of remorse over this. Unfortunately, remorse can't make her kidneys healthier or her heart stronger.
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What is your source Goodrum?
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I am not sure how remorse gives someone a better chance of recovering from health issues. If someone has sinned, it follows that remorse is a step in the right direction. When it comes to health, commitment to living a healthier lifestyle is what will probably help get them through. On the other hand, if one has totally ruined their health, all the remorse in the world won't restore it.
My wife ignored having type II diabetes until it had already caused a lot of damage to her body. She has a lot of remorse over this. Unfortunately, remorse can't make her kidneys healthier or her heart stronger.
While it is true that a dog will often return to its own vomit, a human being will not. Remorse at one's choices can remind a person that they are in fact human and as such they will not return to the scene of their ignorance.
If their health is destroyed and there is no hope for recovery then as you say, remorse can lead to forgiveness but only if it is genuine in nature.
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MIKE MATARAZZO
Mike Matarazzo, who lives in Modesto, underwent a triple heart bypass operation last December at age 39. An online interview with the three-time Arnold competitor hints that steroids played a role in his sudden health problem.
(http://MIKE MATARAZZO
Mike Matarazzo, who lives in Modesto, underwent a triple heart bypass operation last December at age 39. An online interview with the three-time Arnold competitor hints that steroids played a role in his sudden health problem.)
This was 9 years ago. Mike is currently 48 years old.
On November 8, 2007, Matarazzo suffered a heart attack, his second cardiac-related problem since his surgery in December 2004
This is from a Facebook page devoted to Mike.
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MIKE MATARAZZO
Mike Matarazzo, who lives in Modesto, underwent a triple heart bypass operation last December at age 39. An online interview with the three-time Arnold competitor hints that steroids played a role in his sudden health problem.
(http://MIKE MATARAZZO
Mike Matarazzo, who lives in Modesto, underwent a triple heart bypass operation last December at age 39. An online interview with the three-time Arnold competitor hints that steroids played a role in his sudden health problem.)
This was 9 years ago. Mike is currently 48 yes old.
LOL
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While it is true that a dog will often return to its own vomit, a human being will not. Remorse at one's choices can remind a person that they are in fact human and as such they will not return to the scene of their ignorance.
If their health is destroyed and there is no hope for recovery then as you say, remorse can lead to forgiveness but only if it is genuine in nature.
I believe you are speaking of a higher power now. Of course one can also forgive themselves their past mistakes, which they should do. Beating ourselves up because we screwed up doesn't have much future and it is both negative and stressful, both of these things are bad for our health.
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Mel Chancey (who has been friends with Mike for many years posted this on his facebook yesterday)
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Dude played the game and is now paying. And my comment isn't meant to suggest I don't give a crap. From what I know, Mike's a decent fella (never met him). But when you push everything SO far, eventually Mother Nature comes-a-collecting.
Cruddy heart genetics + mountains of red meat/no veggies and fruit + horrific abuse of anabolic drugs and hormones/etc. = BIG trouble
Regardless, my best wishes to Matarazzo. I certainly don't wish death upon the guy.
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Mel Chancey (who has been friends with Mike for many years posted this on his facebook yesterday)
Sad to read. God bless him.
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Mel Chancey (who has been friends with Mike for many years posted this on his facebook yesterday)
Thanks for posting this. It is sad that he continues to struggle with a serious heart condition, but not surprising since once a heart is damaged to a certain degree, it is hard to come back from this. Hope he recovers as he's done previously.
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Dude said he used to eat a few pounds of meat a day or some crazy shit like that.
Johnny Falcon was right. The heme-iron got to him.
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If he had controlled his blood lipids with statins, he may have been able to forestall his problems.
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If he has genuine remorse then he has a chance.
A chance to accept Jesus Christ as his saviour?
Hope he recovers, but he was fully aware of his choices.
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If he had controlled his blood lipids with statins, he may have been able to forestall his problems.
Yes. Statins aren't the perfect answer though. Like with most medications, there are side effects.
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wonder whether he's still eating peanut butter? :-\
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Mike knows that he ruined himself.... he admits it. Hopefully a miracle can happen, and he can can have his health restored.
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Thanks for posting this. It is sad that he continues to struggle with a serious heart condition, but not surprising since once a heart is damaged to a certain degree, it is hard to come back from this. Hope he recovers as he's done previously.
Sadly it's not looking good. Total heart failure and presently in the ICU.
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very sad News i always liked him.. :(
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If you lived a safe life then you have not lived at all that is another name for a coward, men who take risks and go to the extreme to achieve their goals are the real men of this world.
Mike should not be remorseful now he should be smiling because he did what he had to do to achieve his goals.
Mike admitted that his bodybuilding life was merely vanity.
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may well have HOCM
common amongst steroid users whove used high dose and for many years
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Damn I looked up him when I was a teen
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Sounds like both him and ifbb pro are having a tough time health wise with heart issues. That's the price though for pushing to the limits.
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#prayformike
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Stuff like this is always sad to read, a lot of times we don't think of the long haul. I wish him and his family the best. Youve got to stay on top of your blood work and monitor your health if this is the lifestyle you choose.
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Sad news, shame the sports isn't in some way regulated so guys don't have to abuse drugs to the levels that they need to, to be competitive.
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Live by the thong, die by the thong.
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Sad news, shame the sports isn't in some way regulated so guys don't have to abuse drugs to the levels that they need to, to be competitive.
People make choices and this includes the women. Diets, drugs, supplements, etc., are all a choice.
Anyone who would consume pounds of meat a day and avoid carbs and sugars doesn't know much about nutrition.
In the old days we were all afraid that steroids could shorten our lives. We have seen some top guys go before reaching 50.
The steroids are probably not that dangerous but stacking heaps of compounds and using rec drugs can't be good for longevity.
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Sad news, shame the sports isn't in some way regulated so guys don't have to abuse drugs to the levels that they need to, to be competitive.
I know I am repeating myself. Allow doctors to supervise cycles and write prescriptions for pharmaceutical grade.
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Very sad news. He looked like a stand up guy. He abused things like anyone else and paid a high price for it.
Regret really rules his life now, hope his message reach the young bodybuilders hearts.
I seriously hope he walks this earth for several more years.
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In every sport true champions take it to the limit and get hurt or even die. Whether it's surfing mountain climbing boxing motor racing rugby etc. Do you guys have any idea how many severely injured gymnasts there are?
This is the mark of a champions. They push to the limit.
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In every sport true champions take it to the limit and get hurt or even die. Whether it's surfing mountain climbing boxing motor racing rugby etc. Do you guys have any idea how many severely injured gymnasts there are?
This is the mark of a champions. They push to the limit.
The activities that you mentioned are sports.
Bodybuilding with drugs is a mental illness; which eventually turns into a physical illness.
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Best of luck to MM.
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Best of luck to MM.
(http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/qchron.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/d5/dd5e6288-03f4-547e-9b1c-e213d830a8ee/51def78e40b05.preview-300.jpg)
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Who in hell is that?
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Mike Matarazzo
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http://www.qchron.com/editions/south/michael-matarazzo-liberty-biz-owner-dies/article_c7506d23-411d-5100-a52e-6a8452a330f7.html
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Mike Matarazzo
:D
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If he had controlled his blood lipids with statins, he may have been able to forestall his problems.
Cholesterol is not blood lipids. Triglycerides are blood lipids. Not all people with heart attacks have cholesterol problems. Almost half don't. So many possibilities from heart disease that is isn't as simple as using a statin. For many it is believed to be an inflammation problem. Others the heart problem can be an electrical problem of arrhythmia. Some have high blood pressure brought on by steroids and high body weight. That resting high blood pressure spikes to insane levels when that person lifts weights. The heart is a muscle and gaining 40 pounds through steroid use doesn't mean the heart muscle can function optimally through the gained weight. Being heavy is it's own risk category whether it's fat or muscle.
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That is a different Mike Mattarazzo :)
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:D
Kids don´t know shit now.
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People make choices and this includes the women. Diets, drugs, supplements, etc., are all a choice.
Anyone who would consume pounds of meat a day and avoid carbs and sugars doesn't know much about nutrition.
In the old days we were all afraid that steroids could shorten our lives. We have seen some top guys go before reaching 50.
The steroids are probably not that dangerous but stacking heaps of compounds and using rec drugs can't be good for longevity.
I agree
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That is a different Mike Mattarazzo :)
Former IFBB bodybuilder...
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Dietitians, please explain why he stayed away from fruit because of the sugar?
When last I'm remember, your body has no issue processing fruit sugars. Granulated sugars are the BITCH!
Thanks.
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Dietitians, please explain why he stayed away from fruit because of the sugar?
When last I'm remember, your body has no issue processing fruit sugars. Granulated sugars are the BITCH!
Thanks.
In lots of FLEX articles in the early 90s, dudes like Levrone always talked about avoiding fruit because of the sugar content. Their fridges contained greens, protein and their "meds", that's it.
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In lots of FLEX articles in the early 90s, dudes like Levrone always talked about avoiding fruit because of the sugar content. Their fridges contained greens, protein and their "meds", that's it.
Shawn never avoided fruits , always had watermelon and antelope at his disposal
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In the hospital....might be taking that last ride. Hopefully he gets well...one of my fav bodybuilders....always kept it real.
Oh, god, where do I begin? I'd have to say that everything that led to my heart problem began the minute I started getting serious about competitive bodybuilding. In order to get bigger, I'd eat five, six, seven pounds of red meat a day, no vegetables. And I'd stay away from fruits because of their sugar.[6]
Worst were the chemicals. I have so many memories of being alone in a hotel room the week, five days or two days before a contest, and doing unspeakable things to my body—steroids, growth hormones, diuretics—anything and everything that we as bodybuilders do to achieve a certain look.
It has affected my whole life, so to all those guys who are on an eternal quest to have 21" arms and 20" calves, and who are so vain about their never-say-die attitude, I say, "Change your attitude." Worry about keeping that body of yours as healthy as possible, because it's going to have to last you not just through your next contest or to the end of your bodybuilding contract, but for a long time. And a long time for a human being is nothing. It goes by real quick, even quicker when your health is gone and you have nothing to stand live for[/b]
Wise words aimed at delusional thong wearers chasing that dream of hoisting that plastic trophy. Live by the thong. Die by the thong.
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This is Albert at 54. Still lifting in his eighties. Life is a crapshoot, that's all there is too it.
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This is Albert at 54. Still lifting in his eighties. Life is a crapshoot, that's all there is too it.
he probably wont last long either, whats your point moron.
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This is Albert at 54. Still lifting in his eighties. Life is a crapshoot, that's all there is too it.
ED CORNEY TOO..
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Mike contemplating life here
(http://theforumnewsgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/mike-matt.png)
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he probably wont last long either, whats your point moron.
He's in his eighties! Well past the average life expectancy. You dumb shit.
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This is Albert at 54. Still lifting in his eighties. Life is a crapshoot, that's all there is too it.
Beckles went 2nd placeMr.Olympia behind Lee Haney at 55.
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he probably wont last long either, whats your point moron.
the point obviously is, he is still fit and well in his 80s... moron
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Shawn never avoided fruits , always had watermelon and antelope at his disposal
You do know just how weird that sounds, right? ;D Very Kai-ish.
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(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/starprofile/Mike_Matarazzo.jpg)
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/41b439fe2e9fcbe82127b92689313f75/tumblr_ms3ucddt1c1sfa2tqo1_500.jpg)
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what was/is his occupation?
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what was/is his occupation?
Thongsmith
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Mike contemplating life here
(http://theforumnewsgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/mike-matt.png)
that aint mike! Fav quote of mike is "i see guys like im doing 10 anadrol aday and they all got bloated faces etc ,looking like johnny blowbags"
fuck the blowbags !
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In the hospital....might be taking that last ride. Hopefully he gets well...one of my fav bodybuilders....always kept it real.
Oh, god, where do I begin? I'd have to say that everything that led to my heart problem began the minute I started getting serious about competitive bodybuilding. In order to get bigger, I'd eat five, six, seven pounds of red meat a day, no vegetables. And I'd stay away from fruits because of their sugar.[6]
Worst were the chemicals. I have so many memories of being alone in a hotel room the week, five days or two days before a contest, and doing unspeakable things to my body—steroids, growth hormones, diuretics—anything and everything that we as bodybuilders do to achieve a certain look.
It has affected my whole life, so to all those guys who are on an eternal quest to have 21" arms and 20" calves, and who are so vain about their never-say-die attitude, I say, "Change your attitude." Worry about keeping that body of yours as healthy as possible, because it's going to have to last you not just through your next contest or to the end of your bodybuilding contract, but for a long time. And a long time for a human being is nothing. It goes by real quick, even quicker when your health is gone and you have nothing to stand live for
Vince...that quote is like 8 years old.....
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Vince...that quote is like 8 years old.....
Are you saying Vince isn't an industry insider?
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Are you saying Vince isn't an industry insider?
As much as an insider as i am!
Actually, there is a thread at MD that has WAY more information than this.
/thread fail
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(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/starprofile/Mike_Matarazzo.jpg)
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/41b439fe2e9fcbe82127b92689313f75/tumblr_ms3ucddt1c1sfa2tqo1_500.jpg)
this is a 20/30 lb larger version of his 228 lb usa win in 91 he looked insane at that show and he was only competing a bit then came out of nowhere..
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I met him at a dinner party about 12 years ago...Seemed like a good guy, very down to earth. I wish the best for him...
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Never met the guy, but have heard some interviews and he really does sound like a genuinely nice guy.
All the best to him and his family.
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Lacey Mattarazzo left a message on Mel Chanceys facebook page to say he has been transfered to stanford hospital in Palo alto yesterday.
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Mike Matarazzo
Just not the right Mike.
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Wish him the best - always reminded of the Evil Dead series because he looks a tiny wee little like Campbell...
although he doesn't. :D
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Former IFBB bodybuilder...
Uh, no.
Anyway, the former bodybuilder Mike is 48 not 50 years old.
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No that's his brother Drew. Drew Matarazzo.
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Mike contemplating life here
(http://theforumnewsgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/mike-matt.png)
No, that's his other brother. What's his name now.. Nick! Yes, Nick Matarazzo.
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Wish him the best - always reminded of the Evil Dead series because he looks a tiny wee little like Campbell...
although he doesn't. :D
you are absolutely right! :D You like Army of Darkness?
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he probably wont last long either, whats your point moron.
LOL...he's like 86 and still trainer at Gold's in North Hollywood. Nice try tho.
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he probably wont last long either, whats your point moron.
dead by 105
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In the hospital....might be taking that last ride. Hopefully he gets well...one of my fav bodybuilders....always kept it real.
Oh, god, where do I begin? I'd have to say that everything that led to my heart problem began the minute I started getting serious about competitive bodybuilding. In order to get bigger, I'd eat five, six, seven pounds of red meat a day, no vegetables. And I'd stay away from fruits because of their sugar.[6]
Worst were the chemicals. I have so many memories of being alone in a hotel room the week, five days or two days before a contest, and doing unspeakable things to my body—steroids, growth hormones, diuretics—anything and everything that we as bodybuilders do to achieve a certain look.
It has affected my whole life, so to all those guys who are on an eternal quest to have 21" arms and 20" calves, and who are so vain about their never-say-die attitude, I say, "Change your attitude." Worry about keeping that body of yours as healthy as possible, because it's going to have to last you not just through your next contest or to the end of your bodybuilding contract, but for a long time. And a long time for a human being is nothing. It goes by real quick, even quicker when your health is gone and you have nothing to stand live for
Not saying he was asking for it but jesus christ 7lbs of red meat a day couldnt have helped, i eat 250g max if im eating red meat at all.
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As much as an insider as i am!
Actually, there is a thread at MD that has WAY more information than this.
/thread fail
There is a 2008 thread that says Mike passed away so Goodrum, being an industry insider, is prepared for any outcome:
http://www.peak-muscle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17280
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Good to see Mike thrived after his bodybuilding career
Looks a bit offseason in the pic though
New York Chef Michael Matarazzo Places Second in Global Chefs Challenge Semifinals for the Americas in Canada (http://www.acfchefs.org/ACF/About/Media/Releases/Releases2011/ACF/About/Media/Releases/2011/pr110613a.aspx)
(http://www.acfchefs.org/images/media/2011/20110606f_matarazzo_michael.jpg)
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The thread is vague. What was he brought into hospital for specifically?
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Good to see Mike thrived after his bodybuilding career
Looks a bit offseason in the pic though
New York Chef Michael Matarazzo Places Second in Global Chefs Challenge Semifinals for the Americas in Canada (http://www.acfchefs.org/ACF/About/Media/Releases/Releases2011/ACF/About/Media/Releases/2011/pr110613a.aspx)
(http://www.acfchefs.org/images/media/2011/20110606f_matarazzo_michael.jpg)
Wrong, Mikes a city clerk
(http://www.nobomagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Matarazzo-300x266.jpg)
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there's only one mike matarazzo!!!!!
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Will prayed for him if he still has some muscle. If no muscle then he is on his own.
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Get well, Mike.
People make mistakes. You did, but we still support you nikka.
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You do know just how weird that sounds, right? ;D Very Kai-ish.
;D just re read it , yeah it does. Kai ruined everything that has anything to do with fruits
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;D just re read it , yeah it does. Kai ruined everything that has anything to do with fruits
Just grapefruits. Strawberries and Kiwi's are still okay.
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Thongsmith
lolz
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I believe he stated that he ate a jar of peanut butter a day for years. A lot of people have some degree of peanut allergies and don't even know it. Peanuts can and will cause inflammation in most people. Most people's inflammation goes unnoticed and/or has mild symptoms...Inflammation is a secret killer...
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Just grapefruits. Strawberries and Kiwi's are still okay.
I love grapefruits :-X :'(
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I love grapefruits :-X :'(
So does Kai, apparently. He loves them so much he destroys them.
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I believe he stated that he eat a jar of peanut butter a day for years. A lot of people have some degree of peanut allergies and don't even know it. Peanuts can and will cause inflammation in most people. Most people's inflammation goes unnoticed and/or has mild symptoms...Inflammation is a secrete killer...
The guy ate peanut butter and red meat like Seabiscuit, hence the clogged arteries. Excessive steroid use can also wreak havoc on cholesterol levels.
Did he start juicing again after the surgery?
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;D just re read it , yeah it does. Kai ruined everything that has anything to do with fruits
Hopefully the "antelope" were consenting. I know...it was a speeeling eror! ;D
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The guy ate peanut butter and red meat like Seabiscuit, hence the clogged arteries. Excessive steroid use can also wreak havoc on cholesterol levels.
Did he start juicing again after the surgery?
Depending on how much peanut butter he eats, it might not be that bad for him. Peanut butter in small amounts can stimulate your body to produce the HDL cholesterol that clean LDL out of your bloodstream and reduce your cholesterol. However, the saturated fats in peanut butter mean your body will simultaneously produce harmful LDL as well. Health organization Kaiser Permanente advises that people with high blood pressure can eat peanut butter, but are better off eating it in small amounts.
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Most people's inflammation goes unnoticed and/or has mild symptoms...Inflammation is a secret killer...
This could be the way low dose baby aspirin works to help prevent heart problems. Aspirin is anti-inflammatory.
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It is one thing to "live life to it's fullest" and quite another to live a life full of crap. He did the latter and as he has admitted, paid the price. Like I said, if he has genuine remorse he has a chance.
Coleman on the other hand, has more crap in him than a bag of natural fertilizer.
Mike has had a great life - you don't know him and don't know what the fuck you are talking about... What the fuck does "genuine remorse"'have to do with someone's ability to heal?? Fucking retard. Mikes pops died from heart disease very young and I can assure you his dad wasn't living a life of crap and sure as hell was t using hormones... You are a pathetic fuck that never amounted to shit so you come here and pontificate as some righteous ass. Yet another example of the PUSSIFICATION of the world
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Mike has had a great life - you don't know him and don't know what the fuck you are talking about... What the fuck does "genuine remorse"'have to do with someone's ability to heal?? Fucking retard. Mikes pops died from heart disease very young and I can assure you his dad wasn't living a life of crap and sure as hell was t using hormones... You are a pathetic fuck that never amounted to shit so you come here and pontificate as some righteous ass. Yet another example of the PUSSIFICATION of the world
Well, since I don't speak or write "Stupid", I should have known this would happen.
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this is a 20/30 lb larger version of his 228 lb usa win in 91 he looked insane at that show and he was only competing a bit then came out of nowhere..
Miracles of insulin/growth combo.
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The thread is vague. What was he brought into hospital for specifically?
he was posing on getbig with a few gimmicks and a brutal owning by bigmc was the final blow to his heart.
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this is a 20/30 lb larger version of his 228 lb usa win in 91 he looked insane at that show and he was only competing a bit then came out of nowhere..
Yup. Mike at 5'10", competed in the 250-260 range later on. Was about 275-280 offseason. I read he had upwards of both 24" arms and calves at one point. Either way, all around big guy.
Hope he pulls through.
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This sucks.
I met Mike once. Seemed pretty cool.
I doubt he ate like he said he did though.
It's just the drugs. They've done their damage. :(
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Will prayed for him if he still has some muscle. If no muscle then he is on his own.
Fuck man im going to hell for laughing at this. :-[
Anyways... I don't know the guy but i hope he makes a recovery.
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alot of its genetics NOT steroids,some people smoke all their lives n live to be 95 n others never touched a cigerette n die of lung cancer at 35, its just the way it is.
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Went to the cardiologist last week to do a checkup and told him i have used some steroids in the past. He didn't gave much attention to it, he was always repeating how dangerous smoking is.
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Sad, Mike was one of my fav Bodybuilders, some of the freakiest arms and calves of all time. Know he had a a triple bypass in the past. Whether it's drugs or genetics most likely a combination of both, hope he pulls through.
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Sad, Mike was one of my fav Bodybuilders, some of the freakiest arms and calves of all time. Know he had a a triple bypass in the past. Whether it's drugs or genetics most likely a combination of both, hope he pulls through.
He had two open heart interventions. In 2004 and 2007 if i remember correctly.
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This sucks.
I met Mike once. Seemed pretty cool.
I doubt he ate like he said he did though.
It's just the drugs. They've done their damage. :(
Yup it was the drugs (not his diet).
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Another abuser fighting for his life- shocker-
He may have been pre disposed to heart disease, but I'm sure acting like an idiot and abusing drugs speed the process up quite a bit-
Most of these guys will die pre maturely and broke...They are stupid if they don't know that getting into this-
My guess is that Phil Heath will fall the hardest , the fastest...We are seeing it happen to Ronnie right now-
Kids...Stay in school, don't abuse drugs, and save your money. Some people may think that is common sense, but it's amazing how many don't ::)
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So according to the majority on here, it was the meat and peanut butter that did him in.
::) ::) ::)
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(http://www.kandeleria.ru/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Mike-Matarazzo-2.jpg)
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Another abuser fighting for his life- shocker-
He may have been pre disposed to heart disease, but I'm sure acting like an idiot and abusing drugs speed the process up quite a bit-
Most of these guys will die pre maturely and broke...They are stupid if they don't know that getting into this-
My guess is the Phil Heath will fall the hardest , the fastest...We are seeing it happen to Ronnie right now-
Kids...Stay in school, don't abuse drugs, and save your money. Some people may think that is common sense, but it's amazing how many don't ::)
I always got the feeling that Phil is a relatively low dose guy.
I think if anyone it'll be Branch who suffers the most once he hits his 50's, or Kai - maybe not injury-wise but definitely health problems.
Of course they all push the limits. Its hard to understand unless you see it from their eyes.
Just like Olympic athletes, they are willing to do whatever it takes to win, and it doesn't matter to them if they keel over the next day. Of course, Olympic athletes make way more money and actually need skill to win their sport, but the mentality is the same nonetheless.
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Depending on how much peanut butter he eats, it might not be that bad for him. Peanut butter in small amounts can stimulate your body to produce the HDL cholesterol that clean LDL out of your bloodstream and reduce your cholesterol. However, the saturated fats in peanut butter mean your body will simultaneously produce harmful LDL as well. Health organization Kaiser Permanente advises that people with high blood pressure can eat peanut butter, but are better off eating it in small amounts.
Do tell us more about "harmful" LDL and what a huge difference it makes statistically to the risk of heart disease ::)
also please share more of your cutting edge research from kaiser.com about how dietary cholesterol affects blood LDL , and maybe post a 80s food pyramid to illustrate healthy eating while you're at it.
Seriously you parrot the worst , most outdated government propaganda on everything to do with food and meds. Google "buoyant LDL" and educate yourself please.
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Mike seem like nice peoples. I am pretty sure God will forgive him for his wrong path in life and let him enter heaven.
He will be hanging with Jesus hitting some poses with his tong out and making Jesus laugh ou loud.
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I just realized that Mike never won a pro show.
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I always got the feeling that Phil is a relatively low dose guy.
I think if anyone it'll be Branch who suffers the most once he hits his 50's, or Kai - maybe not injury-wise but definitely health problems.
Of course they all push the limits. Its hard to understand unless you see it from their eyes.
Just like Olympic athletes, they are willing to do whatever it takes to win, and it doesn't matter to them if they keel over the next day. Of course, Olympic athletes make way more money and actually need skill to win their sport, but the mentality is the same nonetheless.
After his first heart attack i saw an interview of him where he was saying that kids were asking him advice on steroids and e-mail him what he called "crazy cycles" (dose related). I was under the impression that he wasn't a big user also.
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I just realized that Mike never won a pro show.
Kind of same as Paul DeMayo. Guys who stand out from the croud and had some charisma albeit never winning nothing worth recording.
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I get the competitive side and the "must win at all cost" attitude-what I don't get is why not apply it to something that will potentially be more lucrative, rather than playing Russian Roulette with ones health? That's why one can't help but to get the impression that these guys are all stupid, with no vision whatsoever-
Take Heath and his "lifestyle" for example-How much money can he really be making? In the real world, it's shit. He should't be spending like it will never end-
Why not take that energy and build a business, something that can potentially create a legacy for himself and family?
Instead, he pumps himself full of drugs, spends like he is headed to the gas chamber, and has zero thoughts about what the future may bring.
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I get the competitive side and the "must win at all cost" attitude-what I don't get is why not apply it to something that will potentially be more lucrative, rather than playing Russian Roulette with ones health? That's why one can't help but to get the impression that these guys are all stupid, with no vision whatsoever-
Take Heath and his "lifestyle" for example-How much money can he really be making? In the real world, it's shit. He should't be spending like it will never end-
Why not take that energy and build a business, something that can potentially create a legacy for himself and family?
Instead, he pumps himself full of drugs, spends like he is headed to the gas chamber, and has zero thoughts about what the future may bring.
I don't think any of us know what he's actually investing into. I mean, I get the whole spending thing, I've seen the car he drives. But like Jay, he may be investing in real estate or something along those lines. I can't imagine Heath is dumb enough to think that the stream of money will never end. He is, after all, college educated and seems like a level headed guy (cocky, but level headed).
I hope for his sake he learned a thing or two from Jay's successes and failures, he has a great opportunity to retire like a king.
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I always got the feeling that Phil is a relatively low dose guy.
I think if anyone it'll be Branch who suffers the most once he hits his 50's, or Kai - maybe not injury-wise but definitely health problems.
Of course they all push the limits. Its hard to understand unless you see it from their eyes.
Just like Olympic athletes, they are willing to do whatever it takes to win, and it doesn't matter to them if they keel over the next day. Of course, Olympic athletes make way more money and actually need skill to win their sport, but the mentality is the same nonetheless.
Heath is still fairly young. As he ages the ill-health effects will catch up to him too. He still has a few years left before his body says fuck you.
The average competitive life span of a juiced to the gills pro bodybuilder is about 10 years. The very top guys are the ones who are constantly pushing the envelope. The main reason they got to the top is because of... 1) The amount of drugs they're taking, and 2) Their body's ability to tolerate it. However, the human body can only take so much abuse. These guys always think "It can never happen to me, I can handle the drug regime"... that's the androgens talking.
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Heath is still fairly young. As he ages the ill-health effects will catch up to him too. He still has a few years left before his body says fuck you.
The average competitive life span of a juiced to the gills pro bodybuilder is about 10 years. The very top guys are the ones who are constantly pushing the envelope. The reason they got to the top is because of... 1) The amount of drugs they're taking, and 2) Their body's ability to tolerate it. However, the human body can only take so much abuse. These guys always think "It can never happen to me, I can handle the drug regime"... that's the androgens talking.
What's "a few years?" In 2002 Ronnie came into the O at 300lbs and it was obvious he was on unfathomable amounts of gear, gh, slin, etc... His body took that abuse all the way to 2006 when he finally started to regress into a lump of shit. And I bet if he downsized even more than he has now he'd be way healthier and pull a couple more years of life.
If Phil is smart, he'll quit at around 6 or 7 Sandows and downsize to his college weight. It won't be pretty, but at least his body will receive a much needed rest. I know it won't happen, he'll try to beat Ronnie's record, and I get that, that's what being competitive is all about. But its his decision and he has to live with the consequences. Just like it was Mike's decision to sit in the hotel room and shoot all sorts of shit into his body before prejudging. He knew the risk, or at last should of had some clue of the risk, but decided that's what he needed to do to be competitive.
Another good example of someone who should have died years ago is Markus Ruhl. I can't believe he's still kicking around, but the body is an amazing thing, and he hit the jackpot when it came to tolerance of abuse of that magnitude.
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I just realized that Mike never won a pro show.
He did it for the love of the thong. Not a single pro trophy to show for it. Got invited to the Olympias to get the schmoes all hyped up with his posing...I believe he's only won two contests in his life. Gold's Classic State show was his first show in Boston to qualify him for the USA's...He then won the USA's and never won another show again...He was invited to 7 Mr.Olympias all because of who his sponsor was...I wonder if he was never invited to the Mr Olympia's would he have given up bodybuilding earlier in his career. Something tells me giving him invites to the big show kept the "delusion" going and most likely hurt him health wise...
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What's "a few years?" In 2002 Ronnie came into the O at 300lbs and it was obvious he was on unfathomable amounts of gear, gh, slin, etc... His body took that abuse all the way to 2006 when he finally started to regress into a lump of shit. And I bet if he downsized even more than he has now he'd be way healthier and pull a couple more years of life.
If Phil is smart, he'll quit at around 6 or 7 Sandows and downsize to his college weight. It won't be pretty, but at least his body will receive a much needed rest. I know it won't happen, he'll try to beat Ronnie's record, and I get that, that's what being competitive is all about. But its his decision and he has to live with the consequences. Just like it was Mike's decision to sit in the hotel room and shoot all sorts of shit into his body before prejudging. He knew the risk, or at last should of had some clue of the risk, but decided that's what he needed to do to be competitive.
Another good example of someone who should have died years ago is Markus Ruhl. I can't believe he's still kicking around, but the body is an amazing thing, and he hit the jackpot when it came to tolerance of abuse of that magnitude.
3, 4, 5 years?... who knows. It depends and how much gear he takes and for how long. 90% of them turn into distended lumps of shit eventually. Even Wheeler started to get bloofy towards the end.
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Kind of same as Paul DeMayo. Guys who stand out from the croud and had some charisma albeit never winning nothing worth recording.
PAUL DEMAYO had the it factor as well as mike ,guest posing crowd like these guys for freaky bodyparts ,demayo if he was in his 1994 shape at nationals in his pro career he could have been pretty good pro..
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He did it for the love of the thong. Not a single pro trophy to show for it. Got invited to the Olympias to get the schmoes all hyped up with his posing...I believe he's only won two contests in his life. Gold's Classic State show was his first show in Boston to qualify him for the USA's...He then won the USA's and never won another show again...He was invited to 7 Mr.Olympias all because of who his sponsor was...I wonder if he was never invited to the Mr Olympia's would he have given up bodybuilding earlier in his career. Something tells me giving him invites to the big show kept the "delusion" going and most likely hurt him health wise...
Sounds like The Mr Olympia qualification system is a protective measure, protecting those that are NOT genetically gifted enough to compete. Thereby, protecting their kidneys, livers, heart, from the drugs needed to compensate for their lesser genetics.
Mike bypassed the protective system.
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PAUL DEMAYO had the it factor as well as mike ,guest posing crowd like these guys for freaky bodyparts ,demayo if he was in his 1994 shape at nationals in his pro career he could have been pretty good pro..
Androgens fucked up his mind as well. He did some stupid things, got in trouble with the law and that was that.
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Wishing Mike all the best!
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Mike has had a rich history in bodybuilding. Here is his contest info:
1991 NPC USA Championships, Heavyweight, 1st and Overall
1991 Mr. Olympia, Did not place
1992 Arnold Classic, 15th
1992 Ironman Pro Invitational, 5th
1993 Marissa Classic, 6th
1993 Night of Champions, 8th
1993 Mr. Olympia, 18th
1993 Pittsburgh Pro Invitational, 2nd
1994 Arnold Classic, 9th
1994 San Jose Pro Invitational, 8th
1995 Florida Pro Invitational, 7th
1995 South Beach Pro Invitational, 7th
1996 Grand Prix Czech Republic, 9th
1996 Grand Prix Russia, 9th
1996 Grand Prix Switzerland, 9th
1996 Night of Champions, 5th
1996 Mr. Olympia, 13th
1997 Canada Pro Cup, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Germany, 11th
1997 Grand Prix Hungary, 10th
1997 Grand Prix Spain, 10th
1997 Night of Champions, 4th
1997 Mr. Olympia, 13th
1997 Toronto Pro Invitational, 2nd
1998 Night of Champions, 3rd
1998 Mr. Olympia, 9th
1998 San Francisco Pro Invitational, 7th
1998 Toronto Pro Invitational, 3rd
1999 Mr. Olympia, 11th
2000 Night of Champions, Did not place
2000 Toronto Pro Invitational, 6t
2001 Night of Champions, 5th
2001 Mr. Olympia, 21st
It is interesting that so many of you who spend considerable time posting on Getbig, a bodybuilding forum, have so little good to say about almost all bodybuilders. If you believe most pro bodybuilders are a bunch of losers who follow insane diets, inject a raft of PEDS, love the thong, waste their G4P money and sleep mainly with whores, why does bodybuilding interest you so much that you post here? It seems like such a negative endeavor to follow. Why not post on a roller skating, bicycling or organic gardening forum?
Maybe you just want to distance yourselves from folks like Mike as soon as they become ill because you realize that there for the grace of God, go you.
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Mike has had a rich history in bodybuilding. Here is his contest info:
1991 NPC USA Championships, Heavyweight, 1st and Overall
1991 Mr. Olympia, Did not place
1992 Arnold Classic, 15th
1992 Ironman Pro Invitational, 5th
1993 Marissa Classic, 6th
1993 Night of Champions, 8th
1993 Mr. Olympia, 18th
1993 Pittsburgh Pro Invitational, 2nd
1994 Arnold Classic, 9th
1994 San Jose Pro Invitational, 8th
1995 Florida Pro Invitational, 7th
1995 South Beach Pro Invitational, 7th
1996 Grand Prix Czech Republic, 9th
1996 Grand Prix Russia, 9th
1996 Grand Prix Switzerland, 9th
1996 Night of Champions, 5th
1996 Mr. Olympia, 13th
1997 Canada Pro Cup, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Germany, 11th
1997 Grand Prix Hungary, 10th
1997 Grand Prix Spain, 10th
1997 Night of Champions, 4th
1997 Mr. Olympia, 13th
1997 Toronto Pro Invitational, 2nd
1998 Night of Champions, 3rd
1998 Mr. Olympia, 9th
1998 San Francisco Pro Invitational, 7th
1998 Toronto Pro Invitational, 3rd
1999 Mr. Olympia, 11th
2000 Night of Champions, Did not place
2000 Toronto Pro Invitational, 6t
2001 Night of Champions, 5th
2001 Mr. Olympia, 21st
It is interesting that so many of you who spend considerable time posting on Getbig, a bodybuilding forum, have so little good to say about almost all bodybuilders. If you believe most pro bodybuilders are a bunch of losers who follow insane diets, inject a raft of PEDS, love the thong, waste their G4P money and sleep mainly with whores, why does bodybuilding interest you so much that you post here? It seems like such a negative endeavor to follow. Why not post on a roller skating, bicycling or organic gardening forum?
Maybe you just want to distance yourselves from folks like Mike as soon as they become ill because you realize that there for the grace of God, go you.
8 TOP 5'S NOT BAD..
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Androgens fucked up his mind as well. He did some stupid things, got in trouble with the law and that was that.
Really?
What about all those other folks in the world who find themselves on the wrong side of the law? Can they use androgen use as a defense? People screw up. Not everything everyone does is a result of drug use.
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Get well soon Matarazzo. You were the subject of many arm and calf training articles I read back in the day.
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You're cheating on MD by posting here Mike!!! ;D
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You're cheating on MD by posting here Mike!!! ;D
haHAhahahahahahah! ;D ;)
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In an interview with Ron Harris posted on MD forums on 23/01/2014 he states that nobody in his family ever had a history of heart problems. Link to said interview;
http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/78535-Mike-Matarazzo/page2
For the more intellectually challenged amongst us, please see the 4th question and answer, 4th sentence in answer.
'Nobody in my family ever had heart problems'
Awful lot of bodybuilders with a precondition of 'heart problems' :-X . Nasser, Art Atwood, Mike Matarazzo, Sonny Schmidt, Momo Benaziza, Munzer, Mentzer brothers, the famous pros with kidney issues, Flex Wheeler, Don Long, Tom Prince the Aussie fella, fuck knows his name Luke Wood. Countless others like Dennis Newman, Danny Padilla, Ollie Burke, Dan Duchaine. A lot of these men didn't even see 40. Most of them literally not even 50. Very very healthy 'sport'. :-X
Off course it ain't got nothing to do with taking mind-bending amounts of steroids. Tennis/Golf/Badminton/Squash players die of 'precondition' heart attacks all the time ::)
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Really?
What about all those other folks in the world who find themselves on the wrong side of the law? Can they use androgen use as a defense? People screw up. Not everything everyone does is a result of drug use.
Sure. Androgens have dramatic effects on the brain and cause people to make rash/dumb decisions. Someone who is already high strung should not be taking roids.
Most violent male criminals have been shown to have higher T levels than average men.
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In an interview with Ron Harris posted on MD forums on 23/01/2014 he states that nobody in his family ever had a history of heart problems. Link to said interview;
http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/78535-Mike-Matarazzo/page2
For the more intellectually challenged amongst us, please see the 4th question and answer, 4th sentence in answer.
'Nobody in my family ever had heart problems'
Awful lot of bodybuilders with a precondition of 'heart problems' :-X . Nasser, Art Atwood, Mike Matarazzo, Sonny Schmidt, Momo Benaziza, Munzer, Mentzer brothers, the famous pros with kidney issues, Flex, Don Long, Tom Prince the Aussie fella, fuck knows his name. Countless others like Dennis Newman, Danny Padilla, Ollie Burke, Dan Duchaine. A lot of these men didn't even see 40. Most of them literally not even 50. Very very healthy 'sport'. :-X
Off course it ain't got nothing to do with taking mind-bending amounts of steroids. Tennis/Golf/Badminton/Squash players die of 'precondition' heart attacks all the time ::)
i cant stand people who make out roids/bbuilding lifestyle is healthly
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HE LOOKED AWESOME AT THIS USA,,CAME OUT OF NOWHERE..
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HE LOOKED AWESOME AT THIS USA,,CAME OUT OF NOWHERE..
Best he ever looked IMO!
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In an interview with Ron Harris posted on MD forums on 23/01/2014 he states that nobody in his family ever had a history of heart problems. Link to said interview;
http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/78535-Mike-Matarazzo/page2
For the more intellectually challenged amongst us, please see the 4th question and answer, 4th sentence in answer.
'Nobody in my family ever had heart problems'
Awful lot of bodybuilders with a precondition of 'heart problems' :-X . Nasser, Art Atwood, Mike Matarazzo, Sonny Schmidt, Momo Benaziza, Munzer, Mentzer brothers, the famous pros with kidney issues, Flex, Don Long, Tom Prince the Aussie fella, fuck knows his name. Countless others like Dennis Newman, Danny Padilla, Ollie Burke, Dan Duchaine. A lot of these men didn't even see 40. Most of them literally not even 50. Very very healthy 'sport'. :-X
Off course it ain't got nothing to do with taking mind-bending amounts of steroids. Tennis/Golf/Badminton/Squash players die of 'precondition' heart attacks all the time ::)
Actually, some people have no idea about family history. For example, I have no idea if heart problems run in my family because both my grandfathers died before they hit 60. One died at 50 from obesity (flesh eating disease of some sort that docs couldn't get to because he had too much fat on him.) and the other was struck by lightning and died at 55. My dad has never had BP or heart problems, even with 30 years of smoking under his belt, but I can never be sure that it does or doesn't run in my family.
I DO, however, understand your point about mind-bending amounts of shit they take, and totally agree. Even if you're SLIGHTLY predisposed to some kidney or heart condition, huge amounts of steroids will make it 10000X worse. So realistically, your grandfather could have lived to 90 with a very mild heart condition, but because you also have that slight condition you could die at 50 just because the drugs would have made it THAT much worse.
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i cant stand people who make out roids/bbuilding lifestyle is healthly
they often use themselves, what do you expect lol.
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In an interview with Ron Harris posted on MD forums on 23/01/2014 he states that nobody in his family ever had a history of heart problems. Link to said interview;
http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/78535-Mike-Matarazzo/page2
For the more intellectually challenged amongst us, please see the 4th question and answer, 4th sentence in answer.
'Nobody in my family ever had heart problems'
Awful lot of bodybuilders with a precondition of 'heart problems' :-X . Nasser, Art Atwood, Mike Matarazzo, Sonny Schmidt, Momo Benaziza, Munzer, Mentzer brothers, the famous pros with kidney issues, Flex, Don Long, Tom Prince the Aussie fella, fuck knows his name. Countless others like Dennis Newman, Danny Padilla, Ollie Burke, Dan Duchaine. A lot of these men didn't even see 40. Most of them literally not even 50. Very very healthy 'sport'. :-X
Off course it ain't got nothing to do with taking mind-bending amounts of steroids. Tennis/Golf/Badminton/Squash players die of 'precondition' heart attacks all the time ::)
Good post
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Amazing to think that there was a time I also wanted to be a pro bodybuilder. Circa 1998. By 1999 I grew sense. I remember my pal down the gym being really into it and spending all his money on steroids. Well, whatever little money he made being one of those guys that check your movie ticket down at the cinema. He looked pretty decent and I still remember it like yesterday him sitting at the juice bar in the gym with a tank top waiting for people (old men) to approach him and offer him sponsorship money. Lost touch after I went to university while he kept at it. Never made it past regional shows and heard he done time robbing a .... pharmacy. Swear you can't make this shit up. Last I looked him up on Facebook he looked clean with fuck all muscle and a nice lady. He had a tough time but God willing life works out for him now. And the funny thing is, me who only dabbled once or twice on the most pathetic 'doses' ever and essentially been training clean for 18 years (on and off) have far more muscle than he does now.
Still, I loved the 90s era and STILL think those guys were awesome. I'm just glad I never went off the deep end and had a modicum of sense all along.
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Amazing to think that there was a time I also wanted to be a pro bodybuilder. Circa 1998. By 1999 I grew sense. I remember my pal down the gym being really into it and spending all his money on steroids. Well, whatever little money he made being one of those guys that check your movie ticket down at the cinema. He looked pretty decent and I still remember it like yesterday him sitting at the juice bar in the gym with a tank top waiting for people (old men) to approach him and offer him sponsorship money. Lost touch after I went to university while he kept at it. Never made it past regional shows and heard he done time robbing a .... pharmacy. Swear you can't make this shit up. Last I looked him up on Facebook he looked clean with fuck all muscle and a nice lady. He had a tough time but God willing life works out for him now. And the funny thing is, me who only dabbled once or twice on the most pathetic 'doses' ever and essentially been training clean for 18 years (on and off) have far more muscle than he does now.
Still, I loved the 90s era and STILL think those guys were awesome. I'm just glad I never went off the deep end and had a modicum of sense all along.
GOOD POST..
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+1
Just for the illustration :
Mike Mentzer died 2001 age 49 heart complications
Ray Mentzer died 2001 age 47 Berger's disease(build-up of cholesterol plaques in the arteries), endocarditis (an infection of the lining of the heart)
Ron Teufel died 2002 age 45 liver failure
Scott Klein died 2003 age 30 kidney failure and heart failure
Sonny Schmidt died 2004 age 51 cancer
Robert Benavente 2004 age 30 massive heart attack
Charles Durr 2005 age 44 enlarged heart
Don Youngblood 2005 age 51 massive heart attack
Paul Demayo 2005 age 38 heroin overdose
Fannie Barrios 2005 age 41 (female) apparent stroke
Eric Otero 2006 age 37 infection in his tooth that entered his bloodstream
Eduardo Kawak 2006 age 47 heart attack
Rob Sager 2007 age 29 HEART FAILURE
Greg Deferro 2007 age 53 heart disease
Dan Puckett 2007 age 22 heart condition
Shelley Beattie 2008 age 39 (female) depression for six weeks before she hung herself
Joe Meeko 2009 age 48 Lyme disease
Luke Wood 2011 age 35 kidney failure and heart failure
Carlos Rodriguez 1991 age 48 stomach cancer
Mohammed Benaziza 1992 age 33
Ray McNeil 1995 age 29 killed by his wife
Andreas Münzer 1996 age 31 liver and then kidneys failed
Johnny Fuller 2006 age 62 cancer
Wilfred Sylvester 2006 age 62 alzheimers
Derrick Whitsett 2004 age 38 heart attack
Trevor Smith 2004 age 33 No official cause but he was 400lbs 6ft 1"
Curtis Leffler 1998 age 36 heart attack
Hans Hopstaken 2002 age 45 unspecified heart condition, or pnuemonia
Art Atwood 2011 age 38 heart attack
Bj johns 1995-1996? age 34 New Zealand Heart attack
lou barrie 2001 age 40 died instantly after a massive heart
Claudia Bianchi 2004 age 34 blocked arteries
Big Boss Man' Ray Traylor 2004 age 41 heart attack
Marianna Komlos 2004 age 35 breast cancer
Luke Iams 2003 age unsure 40's heart attack
Anthony Clark 2005 age 39 massive heart attack
Mannie Hamilton 2005 age 62 heart attack
Roger Estep 2005 brain cancer
John Riggins 2005 age 33 kidneys failed, liver stopped functioning, lungs filling up with fluid and he has pneumonia
John Ware 2005 Age 46 (former PLer; current football coach) heart attack
Doug Young, 2005 age 61, powerlifter massive heart attack
Norm Dabish, 2005 age 46, Co-founder of Powerhouse Gyms. heart attack
Herb Glossbrenner, 2005 age 63, suffers stoke
Steve Courson 2005 Steroid whistle blowers for the NFL http://en.wikipedia....i/Steve_Courson crushed to death
Eddie Guerrero, 2005 age 38. acute heart failure due to arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease (artery wall thickens as a result of the accumulation of fatty materials such as cholesterol)
Hans Ossner, 2006 age 64 cancer
Russ Knipp 2006 age 63 heart attack
Nasser El Sonbatey 2013 age 47, Kidney Failure
Casey Viator 2013 age 62, heart attack
Matt Duvall, 2013 age 40 heart attack
And ...
Arnold Schwarzenegger triple heart bypass still living
Don Long kidney failure still living
Tom Prince kidney failure still living
Flex Wheeler kidney transplant in 2003 still living
Ed Corney 1999 suffered a heart attack and 2 strokes still living
Boyer Coe August 11th, had quadruple heart bypass surgery. they discovered Boyer's blood that was extremely thick, and three main arteries were almost completely blocked. The doctors performed open heart surgery right then and there he is still living
Danny Padilla survived a heart attack
Mike Martarazzo heart attack triple bypass heart surgery, still living
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A thread like this always pops up every time I just start a cycle >:(
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A thread like this always pops up every time I just start a cycle >:(
and still you keep doing it :D
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A thread like this always pops up every time I just start a cycle >:(
Whats your cycle ?
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Wow, thats a long list! Sad. What about Frank Hillebrands death?
Not as long as the list of people who haven't had any problems. ::)
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This could be the way low dose baby aspirin works to help prevent heart problems. Aspirin is anti-inflammatory.
Can Aspirin help lower high hematocrit levels?
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Amazing to think that there was a time I also wanted to be a pro bodybuilder. Circa 1998. By 1999 I grew sense. I remember my pal down the gym being really into it and spending all his money on steroids. Well, whatever little money he made being one of those guys that check your movie ticket down at the cinema. He looked pretty decent and I still remember it like yesterday him sitting at the juice bar in the gym with a tank top waiting for people (old men) to approach him and offer him sponsorship money. Lost touch after I went to university while he kept at it. Never made it past regional shows and heard he done time robbing a .... pharmacy. Swear you can't make this shit up. Last I looked him up on Facebook he looked clean with fuck all muscle and a nice lady. He had a tough time but God willing life works out for him now. And the funny thing is, me who only dabbled once or twice on the most pathetic 'doses' ever and essentially been training clean for 18 years (on and off) have far more muscle than he does now.
Still, I loved the 90s era and STILL think those guys were awesome. I'm just glad I never went off the deep end and had a modicum of sense all along.
great post
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great post
x a billy
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Im keeping this bumped for my nugga mike who ive never met till he is fully recovered and ok! I got you mike hold tight my nugga got yo back my nugga
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Amazing to think that there was a time I also wanted to be a pro bodybuilder. Circa 1998. By 1999 I grew sense. I remember my pal down the gym being really into it and spending all his money on steroids. Well, whatever little money he made being one of those guys that check your movie ticket down at the cinema. He looked pretty decent and I still remember it like yesterday him sitting at the juice bar in the gym with a tank top waiting for people (old men) to approach him and offer him sponsorship money. Lost touch after I went to university while he kept at it. Never made it past regional shows and heard he done time robbing a .... pharmacy. Swear you can't make this shit up. Last I looked him up on Facebook he looked clean with fuck all muscle and a nice lady. He had a tough time but God willing life works out for him now. And the funny thing is, me who only dabbled once or twice on the most pathetic 'doses' ever and essentially been training clean for 18 years (on and off) have far more muscle than he does now.
Still, I loved the 90s era and STILL think those guys were awesome. I'm just glad I never went off the deep end and had a modicum of sense all along.
Guy sounds like he crammed a lot in, I bet he has some great stories. ;D
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Fucking get better mike or i'll kill you
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and still you keep doing it :D
Don't worry. He'll die right before our eyes. ;D
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Number of American adults who have used steroids 1,084,000
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Whats your cycle ?
Nothing major....just some Test & EQ.
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aiF7DrQVBmc
Mike is featured in this Weider Principles video. It shows him several times, grocery shopping for vegetables.
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Fucking get better mike or i'll kill you
WTF???!??!
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Mike had one of the best double biceps pose in bodybuilding and one of the craziest pair of calves around back then......Hope he recovers....best thing is this man is honest rather than say what people want to hear.....
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In an interview with Ron Harris posted on MD forums on 23/01/2014 he states that nobody in his family ever had a history of heart problems. Link to said interview;
http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/78535-Mike-Matarazzo/page2
For the more intellectually challenged amongst us, please see the 4th question and answer, 4th sentence in answer.
'Nobody in my family ever had heart problems'
Awful lot of bodybuilders with a precondition of 'heart problems' :-X . Nasser, Art Atwood, Mike Matarazzo, Sonny Schmidt, Momo Benaziza, Munzer, Mentzer brothers, the famous pros with kidney issues, Flex Wheeler, Don Long, Tom Prince the Aussie fella, fuck knows his name Luke Wood. Countless others like Dennis Newman, Danny Padilla, Ollie Burke, Dan Duchaine. A lot of these men didn't even see 40. Most of them literally not even 50. Very very healthy 'sport'. :-X
Off course it ain't got nothing to do with taking mind-bending amounts of steroids. Tennis/Golf/Badminton/Squash players die of 'precondition' heart attacks all the time ::)
Joe Rogan said that when he was doing Fear Factor that a lot of muscle bodybuilder types would try out in casting. And almost every one of them that they picked didn't make it through the physical and stress tests because of heart problems. Most had no clue they even had heart problems.
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Mike had one of the best double biceps pose in bodybuilding and one of the craziest pair of calves around back then......Hope he recovers....best thing is this man is honest rather than say what people want to hear.....
very true.
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I wonder if Victor Richards had the right idea of getting massive but never putting his body through the stresses of getting below 8% and messing with kidney killing diuretics...
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Sooooo..... I have skimmed through 8 pages now.
Where is any actual info of Mike currently being ill?
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Sooooo..... I have skimmed through 8 pages now.
Where is any actual info of Mike currently being ill?
Just Wikipedia
(And he friends Facebook pages)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Matarazzo
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Sooooo..... I have skimmed through 8 pages now.
Where is any actual info of Mike currently being ill?
this is OLD as fuck news. Some fa.ggot posted it like its hot shit
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But i like mike so im keeping it bumped to raise awareness
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Joe Rogan said that when he was doing Fear Factor that a lot of muscle bodybuilder types would try out in casting. And almost every one of them that they picked didn't make it through the physical and stress tests because of heart problems. Most had no clue they even had heart problems.
Reminds me of the bodybuilder who tried out for the World's Strongest Man, sometime in the mid 90's and he literally turned PURPLE while competing and made a fool of himself. He not only couldn't keep up with the TRUE strongmen, but he looked like he was about to die. Sadly, he did (I believe shortly thereafter).
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Reminds me of the bodybuilder who tried out for the World's Strongest Man, sometime in the mid 90's and he literally turned PURPLE while competing and made a fool of himself. He not only couldn't keep up with the TRUE strongmen, but he looked like he was about to die. Sadly, he did (I believe shortly thereafter).
Curtis Leffler
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In an interview with Ron Harris posted on MD forums on 23/01/2014 he states that nobody in his family ever had a history of heart problems. Link to said interview;
http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/78535-Mike-Matarazzo/page2
For the more intellectually challenged amongst us, please see the 4th question and answer, 4th sentence in answer.
'Nobody in my family ever had heart problems'
Awful lot of bodybuilders with a precondition of 'heart problems' :-X . Nasser, Art Atwood, Mike Matarazzo, Sonny Schmidt, Momo Benaziza, Munzer, Mentzer brothers, the famous pros with kidney issues, Flex Wheeler, Don Long, Tom Prince the Aussie fella, fuck knows his name Luke Wood. Countless others like Dennis Newman, Danny Padilla, Ollie Burke, Dan Duchaine. A lot of these men didn't even see 40. Most of them literally not even 50. Very very healthy 'sport'. :-X
Off course it ain't got nothing to do with taking mind-bending amounts of steroids. Tennis/Golf/Badminton/Squash players die of 'precondition' heart attacks all the time ::)
Don't forget Don Youngblood and Trevor Smith
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back in the day.....(worked at a nightclub with Mike's wife at the time/got to know Mike pretty well)
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back in the day.....(worked at a nightclub with Mike's wife at the time/got to know Mike pretty well)
Who is that huge dude shaking Mikes hand in the bottom pic Mike?
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Who is that huge dude shaking Mikes hand in the bottom pic Mike?
Dorian?
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Brutal Zubaz pants and acid-washed jean jacket ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=544878.0;attach=573931;image)
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Dorian?
Kevin levrone
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i go on a table tennis forum. they have a death list each year, but its more for sexual deviancy gone wrong than 'heart genetics'
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aiF7DrQVBmc
Mike is featured in this Weider Principles video. It shows him several times, grocery shopping for vegetables.
most bodybuilders shop for vegetables. They use them as bait... to lure in cattle, which they then pulverize and devour.
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I wonder how his arms would've looked compared to Heath's?
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most bodybuilders shop for vegetables. They use them as bait... to lure in cattle, which they then pulverize and devour.
;D
Most of todays champs are vegetables. Schmoebait.
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I wonder how his arms would've looked compared to Heath's?
His arms were ridiculous!
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+1
Just for the illustration
That's quite a list. A lot of heart attacks and heart failure deaths, to be sure. Here are some interesting statistics:
America's Heart Disease Burden
•About 600,000 people die of heart disease in the United States every year–that’s 1 in every 4 deaths.
•Heart disease is the leading cause of death for both men and women. More than half of the deaths due to heart disease in 2009 were in men.
•Coronary heart disease is the most common type of heart disease, killing nearly 380,000 people annually.
•Every year about 720,000 Americans have a heart attack. Of these, 515,000 are a first heart attack and 205,000 happen in people who have already had a heart attack.
•Coronary heart disease alone costs the United States $108.9 billion. This total includes the cost of health care services, medications, and lost productivity.
Protect Your Heart
Lowering your blood pressure and cholesterol will reduce your risk of dying of heart disease. Here are some tips to protect your heart:
•Follow your doctor’s instructions and stay on your medications.
•Eat a healthy diet that is low in salt; low in total fat, saturated fat, and cholesterol; and rich in fresh fruits and vegetables. Marty Champions (Falcon) may be onto something.
•Take a brisk 10-minute walk, 3 times a day, 5 days a week.
•Don’t smoke. If you smoke, quit as soon as possible.
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That is quite the list-!
Think about how many other nobodies like DA bit the dust that we never hear about.
Add all the current idiots like Branch and Ronnie to that list within a year-
Bostin Loyd, are you reading this??? The Grim Reaper is speaking to you loud and clear!
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Who is that huge dude shaking Mikes hand in the bottom pic Mike?
Steven Segal?
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boom!
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Mike looking sharp in a suit
(http://m.c.lnkd.licdn.com/mpr/pub/image-6wzyKOGe_tEUmEj9KzdOfu-kvpCDWCKeH9wZfboovk8IhUvo6wzZ4qfevZ9QTk3jSbNp/michael-matarazzo.jpg)
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Big arms for sure , but shape not so good
Good bber but not levrone, ray level
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Mike was a freak! (big arms/big ass calves!) Back was sub-par.....Chest = eh......Legs were OK....nothing to write home about...people went crazy tho when he flexed those arms (when he won the "USA" 91? I think....he came to visit his wife where I worked....we were hanging outside the club,Mike was in a tank-top he literally was stopping traffic/people were freaking the fuck out!,stopping their car....taking pictures.....it was like he was a rock star) never again did I see anything like that....
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Mike was a freak! (big arms/big ass calves!) Back was sub-par.....Chest = eh......Legs were OK....nothing to write home about...people went crazy tho when he flexed those arms (when he won the "USA" 91? I think....he came to visit his wife where I worked....we were hanging outside the club,Mike was in a tank-top he literally was stopping traffic/people were freaking the fuck out!,stopping their car....taking pictures.....it was like he was a rock star) never again did I see anything like that....
Little things like that is what makes all it worth it to many..imagine giving that ego boost up
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That's quite a list. A lot of heart attacks and heart failure deaths, to be sure. Here are some interesting statistics:
America's Heart Disease Burden
•About 600,000 people die of heart disease in the United States every year–that’s 1 in every 4 deaths.
•Heart disease is the leading cause of death for both men and women. More than half of the deaths due to heart disease in 2009 were in men.
•Coronary heart disease is the most common type of heart disease, killing nearly 380,000 people annually.
•Every year about 720,000 Americans have a heart attack. Of these, 515,000 are a first heart attack and 205,000 happen in people who have already had a heart attack.
•Coronary heart disease alone costs the United States $108.9 billion. This total includes the cost of health care services, medications, and lost productivity.
Protect Your Heart
Lowering your blood pressure and cholesterol will reduce your risk of dying of heart disease. Here are some tips to protect your heart:
•Follow your doctor’s instructions and stay on your medications.
•Eat a healthy diet that is low in salt; low in total fat, saturated fat, and cholesterol; and rich in fresh fruits and vegetables. Marty Champions (Falcon) may be onto something.
•Take a brisk 10-minute walk, 3 times a day, 5 days a week.
•Don’t smoke. If you smoke, quit as soon as possible.
So less than half of the deaths from heart disease in 2009 were by women. ..... Humans accounted for 100% of these death's!
Very interesting.
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Yo MIKE hang in there buddy, my best wishes to you and your family. GOD BLESS :)
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Mike was a freak! (big arms/big ass calves!) Back was sub-par.....Chest = eh......Legs were OK....nothing to write home about...people went crazy tho when he flexed those arms (when he won the "USA" 91? I think....he came to visit his wife where I worked....we were hanging outside the club,Mike was in a tank-top he literally was stopping traffic/people were freaking the fuck out!,stopping their car....taking pictures.....it was like he was a rock star) never again did I see anything like that....
mikes long torso hurt his back 'look',his chest wasn't bad in those video's his side chest was alright,he filled alot mass in that frame ,his legs looked shorter compared to long torso and stubby but huge calves took away from rest legs.he had freak factor calves/arms,,like fellow bostonian demayo legs/arms..
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Little things like that is what makes all it worth it too many..imagine giving that ego boost up
Really? Nearly kill yourself for a pointless 'ego boost' from random mugs. Beyond my realms of understanding why you'd want random people to 'admire' you. Usually the same people that's quick to point out that they don't care what others think.
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Really? Nearly kill yourself for a pointless 'ego boost' from random mugs. Beyond my realms of understanding why you'd want random people to 'admire' you. Usually the same people that's quick to point out that they don't care what others think.
I don't see what's so hard to understand. Do you think people buy flashy cars and expensive status symbols to go unnoticed? Attention gives you a sense of importance. Once you are constantly given attention and praised for your appearance it becomes a part of your identity. That's not easy to give up for most.
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Wednesday bump for mike. Hold tight!
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Freaky calves indeed. Mike's calves remind me of the freaky calves of James Demillo.
(http://www.naturalchampion.net/i/James1_1.jpg)
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Mike's best years were 98 and 99. He was full and cut...got 3rd at NOC behind Coleman and levrone... Looked super freaky
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Little things like that is what makes all it worth it too many..imagine giving that ego boost up
Yeah but mike today would give all that up to live the rest of his life healthy and peacefully
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I don't see what's so hard to understand. Do you think people buy flashy cars and expensive status symbols to go unnoticed? Attention gives you a sense of importance. Once you are constantly given attention and praised for your appearance it becomes a part of your identity. That's not easy to give up for most.
But those flashy cars and expensive things aren't going to effect your health and cause u to end up in ICU ;D
Good luck to mike though! Hope he does recover , sounds like he gave up the bbing lifestyle a long time ago
Props to guys like tom prince, mike Francois. After health problems they gave up unlike many who still keep pushing the envelope like idiots like don long, flex wheeler, kris dim.... If those guys tumbled over I or anyone should give two shits about them
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Yeah but mike today would give all that up to live the rest of his life healthy and peacefully
I understand that and agree its the smart thing to do. My post wasn't justifying being told you have a serious heart condition and continuing to push it to the max. The point I was making is its easy to get caught up in yourself and not take caution to health. I can't and won't judge anyone who does.
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Freaky calves indeed. Mike's calves remind me of the freaky calves of James Demillo.
(http://www.naturalchampion.net/i/James1_1.jpg)
wow thats a name that brings back memories, he was built really good
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Freaky calves indeed. Mike's calves remind me of the freaky calves of James Demillo.
(http://www.naturalchampion.net/i/James1_1.jpg)
Oh yeah, he was natural ::)
He was smart to get out before he ruined himself.
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mikes long torso hurt his back 'look',his chest wasn't bad in those video's his side chest was alright,he filled alot mass in that frame ,his legs looked shorter compared to long torso and stubby but huge calves took away from rest legs.he had freak factor calves/arms,,like fellow bostonian demayo legs/arms..
Chris Cormier once said that "Mike had nothing between his knees and his armpits".
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Chris Cormier once said that "Mike had nothing between his knees and his armpits".
I once said that Cormier is a rave-fag. I still say it.
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That's quite a list. A lot of heart attacks and heart failure deaths, to be sure. Here are some interesting statistics:
America's Heart Disease Burden
•About 600,000 people die of heart disease in the United States every year–that’s 1 in every 4 deaths.
•Heart disease is the leading cause of death for both men and women. More than half of the deaths due to heart disease in 2009 were in men.
•Coronary heart disease is the most common type of heart disease, killing nearly 380,000 people annually.
•Every year about 720,000 Americans have a heart attack. Of these, 515,000 are a first heart attack and 205,000 happen in people who have already had a heart attack.
•Coronary heart disease alone costs the United States $108.9 billion. This total includes the cost of health care services, medications, and lost productivity.
Protect Your Heart
Lowering your blood pressure and cholesterol will reduce your risk of dying of heart disease. Here are some tips to protect your heart:
•Follow your doctor’s instructions and stay on your medications.
•Eat a healthy diet that is low in salt; low in total fat, saturated fat, and cholesterol; and rich in fresh fruits and vegetables. Marty Champions (Falcon) may be onto something.
•Take a brisk 10-minute walk, 3 times a day, 5 days a week.
•Don’t smoke. If you smoke, quit as soon as possible.
This advice is terrible. I take it you would be surprised to learn that whole eggs actually reduce small, dense LDL? That is the LDL that is bad for you by the way.
The way to increase your bad LDL is to go overboard on carbs.
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+1
Just for the illustration :
Mike Mentzer died 2001 age 49 heart complications
Ray Mentzer died 2001 age 47 Berger's disease(build-up of cholesterol plaques in the arteries), endocarditis (an infection of the lining of the heart)
Ron Teufel died 2002 age 45 liver failure
Scott Klein died 2003 age 30 kidney failure and heart failure
Sonny Schmidt died 2004 age 51 cancer
Robert Benavente 2004 age 30 massive heart attack
Charles Durr 2005 age 44 enlarged heart
Don Youngblood 2005 age 51 massive heart attack
Paul Demayo 2005 age 38 heroin overdose
Fannie Barrios 2005 age 41 (female) apparent stroke
Eric Otero 2006 age 37 infection in his tooth that entered his bloodstream
Eduardo Kawak 2006 age 47 heart attack
Rob Sager 2007 age 29 HEART FAILURE
Greg Deferro 2007 age 53 heart disease
Dan Puckett 2007 age 22 heart condition
Shelley Beattie 2008 age 39 (female) depression for six weeks before she hung herself
Joe Meeko 2009 age 48 Lyme disease
Luke Wood 2011 age 35 kidney failure and heart failure
Carlos Rodriguez 1991 age 48 stomach cancer
Mohammed Benaziza 1992 age 33
Ray McNeil 1995 age 29 killed by his wife
Andreas Münzer 1996 age 31 liver and then kidneys failed
Johnny Fuller 2006 age 62 cancer
Wilfred Sylvester 2006 age 62 alzheimers
Derrick Whitsett 2004 age 38 heart attack
Trevor Smith 2004 age 33 No official cause but he was 400lbs 6ft 1"
Curtis Leffler 1998 age 36 heart attack
Hans Hopstaken 2002 age 45 unspecified heart condition, or pnuemonia
Art Atwood 2011 age 38 heart attack
Bj johns 1995-1996? age 34 New Zealand Heart attack
lou barrie 2001 age 40 died instantly after a massive heart
Claudia Bianchi 2004 age 34 blocked arteries
Big Boss Man' Ray Traylor 2004 age 41 heart attack
Marianna Komlos 2004 age 35 breast cancer
Luke Iams 2003 age unsure 40's heart attack
Anthony Clark 2005 age 39 massive heart attack
Mannie Hamilton 2005 age 62 heart attack
Roger Estep 2005 brain cancer
John Riggins 2005 age 33 kidneys failed, liver stopped functioning, lungs filling up with fluid and he has pneumonia
John Ware 2005 Age 46 (former PLer; current football coach) heart attack
Doug Young, 2005 age 61, powerlifter massive heart attack
Norm Dabish, 2005 age 46, Co-founder of Powerhouse Gyms. heart attack
Herb Glossbrenner, 2005 age 63, suffers stoke
Steve Courson 2005 Steroid whistle blowers for the NFL http://en.wikipedia....i/Steve_Courson crushed to death
Eddie Guerrero, 2005 age 38. acute heart failure due to arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease (artery wall thickens as a result of the accumulation of fatty materials such as cholesterol)
Hans Ossner, 2006 age 64 cancer
Russ Knipp 2006 age 63 heart attack
Nasser El Sonbatey 2013 age 47, Kidney Failure
Casey Viator 2013 age 62, heart attack
Matt Duvall, 2013 age 40 heart attack
And ...
Arnold Schwarzenegger triple heart bypass still living
Don Long kidney failure still living
Tom Prince kidney failure still living
Flex Wheeler kidney transplant in 2003 still living
Ed Corney 1999 suffered a heart attack and 2 strokes still living
Boyer Coe August 11th, had quadruple heart bypass surgery. they discovered Boyer's blood that was extremely thick, and three main arteries were almost completely blocked. The doctors performed open heart surgery right then and there he is still living
Danny Padilla survived a heart attack
Mike Martarazzo heart attack triple bypass heart surgery, still living
You threw a couple Wrestlers in there, if you add in the Wrestlers the list goes on and on.
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Jeez I forgot about Charles Durr dying from an enlarged heart.
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Chris Cormier once said that "Mike had nothing between his knees and his armpits".
LOL,,,I CAN SEE HIM SAYING THAT SO NO LATS/LEGS ...
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Mike really seems like a good guy. I've never heard anyone say anything diffrent. Hope he makes it through this as well!
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This advice is terrible. I take it you would be surprised to learn that whole eggs actually reduce small, dense LDL? That is the LDL that is bad for you by the way.
The way to increase your bad LDL is to go overboard on carbs.
Prime is a old man who comes from a generation that unquestioningly believes in "easy to understand" government advice.
He's recommending statins in this thread so I don't think he actually knows what small LDL is , just that "cholesterol" is "bad"
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Now that I think about it, I have met Mike, once. I was sitting in a folding chair at a table set up at the back of a hall in Pittsburgh where a contest was being held, and Matarazzo walked over to me and rudely told me it was his chair.
So there ya go. >:(
It was at this competition that I also came upon King Tamali for the first time. The guy was a profusely sweating blob of goo, chatting up Jim Manion, and I asked my buddy who the human disaster was. "He's apparently some up-and-coming bodybuilder or something, " he replied. "Gets real bulky in the offseason."
No shit.
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This advice is terrible. I take it you would be surprised to learn that whole eggs actually reduce small, dense LDL? That is the LDL that is bad for you by the way.
The way to increase your bad LDL is to go overboard on carbs.
Sorry, what I posted should of been in quotes or at least cited. It is from an article I believe was published by the American Heart Association. So the advice wasn't mine. I eat eggs frequently, although not a dozen at a time like some folks claim to do.
In fact I don't follow their diet recommendation at all. I eat as I always have, which is to eat what I like and do it in moderation. Last night for example, I had a 6 oz. New York steak, baked potato with butter and fresh steam broccoli for dinner. I salted and peppered my dinner.
My total Cholesterol is on the high side, so is my HDL. I have taken a statin since I was 38 years old and was first diagnosed with high cholesterol. My doctor suggest a diet back then, which I followed for two weeks only to have my total cholesterol climb. Apparently, I was doing better on my own.
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Prime is a old man who comes from a generation that unquestioningly believes in "easy to understand" government advice.
He's recommending statins in this thread so I don't think he actually knows what small LDL is , just that "cholesterol" is "bad"
I am old, you got that right. The rest you got wrong. That diet was not government advice. It was from the American Hearth Association, which makes it medical advice. I don't recommend statins; I take a statin. -Have done so for many more years then some of you have been alive. Doctor's recommend statins. I have kept a record of my total, HDL and LDL cholesterol numbers for decades. I probably have a better understanding of cholesterol than most people do.
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i bet he blames the steriods as well for that constipation in the shitter this morning and not that baloney sandwich he had last night
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Sorry, what I posted should of been in quotes or at least cited. It is from an article I believe was published by the American Heart Association. So the advice wasn't mine. I eat eggs frequently, although not a dozen at a time like some folks claim to do.
In fact I don't follow their diet recommendation at all. I eat as I always have, which is to eat what I like and do it in moderation. Last night for example, I had a 6 oz. New York steak, baked potato with butter and fresh steam broccoli for dinner. I salted and peppered my dinner.
My total Cholesterol is on the high side, so is my HDL. I have taken a statin since I was 38 years old and was first diagnosed with high cholesterol. My doctor suggest a diet back then, which I followed for two weeks only to have my total cholesterol climb. Apparently, I was doing better on my own.
Have you noticed any side effects that you could attribute to statins? They are now widely perceived as being much worse than what they allegedly "cure".
If I was in your position I'd find a specialist who could run a test that would look at more than just straight HDL and LDL. Lipoprotein is one that springs to mind, plus in the States you can have things like arterial compliance tests that I'd always go for.
If I had high "bad" LDL I'd try kyolic garlic before a statin. That usually knocks the basic LDL reading down a good few points.
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Have you noticed any side effects that you could attribute to statins? They are now widely perceived as being much worse than what they allegedly "cure".
If I was in your position I'd find a specialist who could run a test that would look at more than just straight HDL and LDL. Lipoprotein is one that springs to mind, plus in the States you can have things like arterial compliance tests that I'd always go for.
If I had high "bad" LDL I'd try kyolic garlic before a statin. That usually knocks the basic LDL reading down a good few points.
I'd give up on this, he thinks he knows best because he has been told by "a doctor" and old people only listen to authority figures. That's why statins are a billion dollar business
He's wasted years doing the Right Thing, it's not like he'll read something like this http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2929871/ when he could have The Official Voice Of Health the AHA tell him a dumbed down "fat is bad" version of the science
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Have you noticed any side effects that you could attribute to statins? They are now widely perceived as being much worse than what they allegedly "cure".
If I was in your position I'd find a specialist who could run a test that would look at more than just straight HDL and LDL. Lipoprotein is one that springs to mind, plus in the States you can have things like arterial compliance tests that I'd always go for.
If I had high "bad" LDL I'd try kyolic garlic before a statin. That usually knocks the basic LDL reading down a good few points.
Fortunately, I've had no side effects from taking statins thus far and I've taken them for decades. No muscle weakness or pain, no liver issues, no digestive problems, never got a rash, blood sugar is fine and my memory seems to be fine even though I am rapidly becoming ancient. I have complete blood work done at minimum twice a year. I've not had a arterial compliance test. However, because I have atrial fibrillation, I have had a couple of EKG's and echo cardiograms over years, one just last month. I take my blood pressure and pulse at least once daily. I believe my cardio vascular system is well monitored. I've had an irregular heartbeat since childhood.
I do take some over-the-counter supplements which are supposedly beneficial to hearth and vascular function. I take Slo-Niacin, CoQ10, Magnesium, low-dose aspirin and drink a glass of V-8 to insure I get a good dose of potassium daily. Recently, I started taking a beta blocker to help with atrial fibrillation.
As you can probably tell, I try to stay on top of my health. If I were willing to get more serious about diet and exercise, that would probably be a benefit too. But sometimes quality of life and just enjoying oneself has to be part of the equation too. Because I am on HRT, I have blood work done for my urologist as well. About once a year, he wants a full panel. If anything, my doctors and I may be overly cautious with regards to my heart health. But hey, I never had a heart attack and don't want one either.
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I'd give up on this, he thinks he knows best because he has been told by "a doctor" and old people only listen to authority figures. That's why statins are a billion dollar business
He's wasted years doing the Right Thing, it's not like he'll read something like this http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2929871/ when he could have The Official Voice Of Health the AHA tell him a dumbed down "fat is bad" version of the science
Actually it has been several doctors over many decades.
Some would say young people listen to no one but themselves because they think they know it all, but I won't go that far.
As for wasting years, what have I lost? I am much healthier then many people half my age. I am active and lead a rich life. I am not lying in a hospital bed hoping not to die of heart failure. Mawse, you are probably like many people who look for alternative answers for their health issues. I wish you the best. Beware of charlatans though, there is always someone who claims to have a better answer, usually at a price.
I read the article you linked. It is interesting. If statins weren't working well for me, I might be looking at other options. Fortunately, what I have been doing health wise for the past 40 years seems to have been successful. It is hard to argue with success.
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If he has genuine remorse then he has a chance.
Oh fuck off.
Repenting doesn't do shit.
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Oh fuck off.
Repenting doesn't do shit.
You simple minded dolt. If he has remorse then perhaps he will never make the same mistake again. Simple but then so are you. Let me help you. Words and phrases can have different meanings and quite often the context in which they're used "hints" at this. Most adults know this and use it to their advantage, but you? Noooooo. You think because of my faith (which if it ever fails me entirely I would not want to be you because you're such a moronic philistine and therefor cannot even figure out how not to hurl yourself off the cliff of your stupidity) you jump to your favorite conclusion and choose to hazard a guess at what I meant.
Learn anything idiot? Probably not and we will relive this moment again and again. I suppose it's all my fault for not learning to speak/write the language of the illiterate.
Learn anything yet Simple Jack or will you return to the ignorance that you vomited out and is now quoted above to remind you.
Go intercourse yourself, little man.
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Yeah but mike today would give all that up to live the rest of his life healthy and peacefully
Do you think Dale Earnhardt wishes he never got in a race car?
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maybe he got sick from having his head placed in a men's Urinal by harry tasker when filming true lies
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mike has always been a fine gent!
a great showman on stage too!
wishing him all the best.
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I guess statins are the "devil now" ::) ::) ::). If one would bother to read, the AHA and the many vascular experts in the field have release new guidelines that actually call for an increased administration of statins. It should be noted that for those pt's with diabetes, a cardiovascular risk factor of more than 7.5% at ten years, prior CAD, or an LDL-C greater than 190.
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/early/2013/11/11/01.cir.0000437738.63853.7a.full.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17284700
Thus, if you can tolerate statins and monitor LFT's, moderate alcohol, for GETBIGGERS avoid anabolics, and live cleanly they will ultimately benefit you. I tend to trust published literature and the recommendations of the world top-most experts vs MAWSE and other GB's
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I guess statins are the "devil now" ::) ::) ::). If one would bother to read, the AHA and the many vascular experts in the field have release new guidelines that actually call for an increased administration of statins. It should be noted that for those pt's with diabetes, a cardiovascular risk factor of more than 7.5% at ten years, prior CAD, or an LDL-C greater than 190.
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/early/2013/11/11/01.cir.0000437738.63853.7a.full.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17284700
Thus, if you can tolerate statins and monitor LFT's, moderate alcohol, for GETBIGGERS avoid anabolics, and live cleanly they will ultimately benefit you. I tend to trust published literature and the recommendations of the world top-most experts vs MAWSE and other GB's
Be careful or Mawse will be calling you old and retarded.
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Fuck him ;D ;D ;D ;D
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http://guardianlv.com/2014/03/statin-guidelines-may-greatly-increase-use/
13 million more prescribed because of the new guidelines. I understand if you are skeptical. As a physician I am too. However, after reading the literature and reading the ciruculation article where they came by their reasons to advocate more statin use, I am a believer. Look, if you have perfect genetics and no risk factors then good on you. However, in the good old USA there are over 60 million Americans with HTN.
http://www.cdc.gov/dhdsp/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fs_bloodpressure.htm
A large percent are afflicted with diabetes.
http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/
Over 20 million Americans have chronic kidney disease.
http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/kustats/#4
Imagine the number of individuals affected by all three. Thus, aggressively treating lipids is an effective means to reduce cardiovascular mortality. Are there better studies than the traditional cholesterol guidelines. Sure, test like the VAP are available.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_auto_profile
Regardless, even if you look at LDL particle size and Apolipoprotein B levels, more statins are going to be indicated.
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The lipid hypothesis really is the goose that lays golden eggs.
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The lipid hypothesis really is the goose that lays golden eggs.
No doubt it is lucrative. However, a lot of very well established statins are now generic like simvastatin, pravastatin, lovastatin, and atorvastatin to name a few. There are still brand name statins like Crestor and Livalo that make millions / billions for pharma, but there are a lot of reasonable agents out there even for the indigent.
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No doubt it is lucrative. However, a lot of very well established statins are now generic like simvastatin, pravastatin, lovastatin, and atorvastatin to name a few. There are still brand name statins like Crestor and Livalo that make millions / billions for pharma, but there are a lot of reasonable agents out there even for the indigent.
My doctor prescribes me Simvastatin. It is so inexpensive, that it cost less then my $7.00 co-pay to fill it.
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You simple minded dolt. If he has remorse then perhaps he will never make the same mistake again. Simple but then so are you. Let me help you. Words and phrases can have different meanings and quite often the context in which they're used "hints" at this. Most adults know this and use it to their advantage, but you? Noooooo. You think because of my faith (which if it ever fails me entirely I would not want to be you because you're such a moronic philistine and therefor cannot even figure out how not to hurl yourself off the cliff of your stupidity) you jump to your favorite conclusion and choose to hazard a guess at what I meant.
Learn anything idiot? Probably not and we will relive this moment again and again. I suppose it's all my fault for not learning to speak/write the language of the illiterate.
Learn anything yet Simple Jack or will you return to the ignorance that you vomited out and is now quoted above to remind you.
Go intercourse yourself, little man.
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Meltdown.
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Meltdown.
Fucktard.
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I guess statins are the "devil now" ::) ::) ::). If one would bother to read, the AHA and the many vascular experts in the field have release new guidelines that actually call for an increased administration of statins. It should be noted that for those pt's with diabetes, a cardiovascular risk factor of more than 7.5% at ten years, prior CAD, or an LDL-C greater than 190.
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/early/2013/11/11/01.cir.0000437738.63853.7a.full.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17284700
Thus, if you can tolerate statins and monitor LFT's, moderate alcohol, for GETBIGGERS avoid anabolics, and live cleanly they will ultimately benefit you. I tend to trust published literature and the recommendations of the world top-most experts vs MAWSE and other GB's
Have you used Statins at all ?
They destroy your memory , I've been on them on two occasions and both times I was in a mind fog and memory was shocking.
Stopped taking them and went away - I've read and researched a bit and for alot of people they give dementia like sides.
Quite Bizarre that I approach my Doctor with this and he say's it's not the Statins yet I provide him with endless documentation
that it is , even work done and written by other Doctors on these sides yet because the Pharma companies tell him , no no they are
ok then he listens to them.
I told him Tamox(nolva) is a drug known to elevate good cholesterol after him telling me there is no known other drugs to raise good cholesterol
and he basically told me Rubbish even though my bloods proved that nolva put my good cholesterol up.
I think they are dangerous and long term (as in the future) serious issues will start to show - they haven't been in use long enough to say there are
no long term problems.
I've sacked my Doctor also and now use one that is more open and explores different avenues to treat symptoms
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Have you used Statins at all ?
They destroy your memory , I've been on them on two occasions and both times I was in a mind fog and memory was shocking.
Stopped taking them and went away - I've read and researched a bit and for alot of people they give dementia like sides.
Quite Bizarre that I approach my Doctor with this and he say's it's not the Statins yet I provide him with endless documentation
that it is , even work done and written by other Doctors on these sides yet because the Pharma companies tell him , no no they are
ok then he listens to them.
I told him Tamox(nolva) is a drug known to elevate good cholesterol after him telling me there is no known other drugs to raise good cholesterol
and he basically told me Rubbish even though my bloods proved that nolva put my good cholesterol up.
I think they are dangerous and long term (as in the future) serious issues will start to show - they haven't been in use long enough to say there are
no long term problems.
I've sacked my Doctor also and now use one that is more open and explores different avenues to treat symptoms
Will I am on a statin as I am 44 and my pops gave me bad genes. My HDL is over 60, which is good, but my LDL is sky high. After starting lipitor (atorvastatin), my LDL is under 90. Now, I did have myositis symptoms with Vytorin (combo of simvastatin and zetia). I can't attest to memory loss, but I agree that there are so many side effects of these and every agent that it is indeed possible. It is just not a common ailment; thus, your doc is not being quite disingenuous, but he is not looking at the individual who may have an unusual reaction. As for Tamox, are you speaking of Tamoxifen??? This an anti-estrogen medication with innumerable side effects. TBH, you are better off with a statin. I assume if you are taking Tamoxifen you are on anabolics. Why don't you do a little research on anabolic steroids and their side effects. What I discern is as long as the drug you are taking is working for your physical appearance, side effects be damned. Statins are considerably well researched and for the vast majority of people very safe.
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BTW niacin is well known to raise HDL, but it too has innumerable side effects.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/high-blood-cholesterol/in-depth/niacin/art-20046208
The best natural agents I have seen to raise good cholesterol and lower bad are diet, exercise, weight loss, oatmeal, and maybe red yeast rice. Funny about red yeast rice is the original product had lovastatin in it.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/red-yeast-rice-and-cholesterol/
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BTW niacin is well known to raise HDL, but it too has innumerable side effects.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/high-blood-cholesterol/in-depth/niacin/art-20046208
The best natural agents I have seen to raise good cholesterol and lower bad are diet, exercise, weight loss, oatmeal, and maybe red yeast rice. Funny about red yeast rice is the original product had lovastatin in it.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/red-yeast-rice-and-cholesterol/
"You may have heard that a large study that examined the effect of niacin to raise HDL cholesterol was stopped early. This study examined how niacin worked when used with statin medications for people who have a history of heart disease. The trial was stopped because no difference was seen between people who took prescription-strength niacin and people who took a placebo"
That wasn't the scientifically sound, intellectually honest study that used extended-release niacin was it?
its a pretty moot point however as unless I missed something none of these studies actually prove the Lipid Hypothesis. That first article you link to is full of disclaimers.
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The report raises concerns over the level of prescription for the statins. It furthers already existing concerns about the validity of the drug in the first place. One of the reasons for using statin is to reduce cholesterol, which is assumed to be a key risk factor in heart attacks and other cardiovascular problems. Although the general medical consensus asserts the link, and the subsequent benefit of the use of statin, other research suggests otherwise.
A quick glance of research from the UK shows that high cholesterol decreased dramatically between 1994 and 2006, from 84 percent down to 54 percent in 65 to 74 year olds. During this period coronary heart disease did not drop with it, suggesting that the correlation may at least be exaggerated. The UK in general has a low-level of cholesterol, whilst having one of the highest rates of coronary events in the world."
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Mawse,
CAD is from multiple factors and not just cholesterol. Diabetes, smoking, hypertension, obesity, genetics, and lipids all contribute. All I am stating is that when the leading cardiologists in the world essentially unanimously espouse their use...statins....there is something positive to be gained. A lot of new theories feel that it is not the essential lowering of any number but possibly the anti-inflammatory effect of statins that are beneficial.
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/106/16/2041.long
Thus, they work by multiple mechanisms of action and not just the simplified lower you LDL to this goal level...those goal level recommendations for triglycerides, HDL, and LDL are all removed in the latest guidelines.
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Considering that more people die as a result of cardio vascular disease, it is no wonder it gets so much attention. As mentioned, not just one factor is the cause of cardio vascular disease, their are many things which affect it.
My parents, to the best of my knowledge, never had their cholesterol checked. It is possible that they had high cholesterol and mine is a result of genetics. Neither of my parents died from clogged arteries. My mom died from heart failure caused by end-stage emphysema and 40 some odd years of chain smoking. My dad died, also at a comparatively young age from stomach cancer.
We are all going to die of something sooner or later. I am doing everything I can to make it later rather than sooner. So for me, statins are the way to go. Fortunately, I don't suffer side effects from them....or from Niacin, for that matter.
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Fucktard.
Coward.
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Coward.
*SNICKER*
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Mel Chancey posted today that Mike has past. Mel Chancey had been good friends with Mike for 25 years. May Mike rest in peace. He was a fun guy and I was lucky to meet Mike and chat on a few occasions.