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Title: Christmas has nothing to do, with Christ. Let's be honest here.
Post by: Wiggs on December 19, 2014, 01:17:39 PM
As I stated it's a Pagan Holiday. As are Easter and Halloween. The only thing the Bible says about anything pertaining to Christmas is the following: Jeremiah 10: 1 -16. Hear the word that the Lord speaks to you, O house of Israel. 2 Thus says the Lord:
“Learn not the way of the nations,
nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens
because the nations are dismayed at them,
3    for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down
and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman.
4    They decorate it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so that it cannot move.
5    Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field,
and they cannot speak;
they have to be carried,
for they cannot walk.
Do not be afraid of them,
for they cannot do evil,
neither is it in them to do good.”

Christ was not born December 25th.  

There is no legitimate scriptural reason not to celebrate Christmas. At the same time, there is no biblical mandate to celebrate it, either.

I understand it's tradition but tradition doesn't trump the Bible.  Christmas was banned in the U.S. until 1820s. December 25th is the birthdate of King Nimrod in the Bible.


I don't think most Christians read their Bibles or if they do, understand them. Add to that Christians blatantly violate a commandment and don't rest on the Sabbath which is Friday night/Saturday morning.   They eat pork and then say they're under grace....lmao When Christ said he came not to change the laws but to fulfill them.  Meaning he had to die for our sins.  So no, you must follow dietary laws. No pork, No fish with no scales and/or fins, no animals that don't have spit hooves and doesn't chew its cud. Furthermore, His name is Yashua, not "Jesus".  How are you going to change his name from Hebrew to a Greek name?  Another commandment violated is not having any graven images of anything in heaven or earth. You have crosses and angels and all kinds of garbage it says not to have.  Let's not forget Christ and the Hebrews are black in the Bible.

So what we have here is totally different than what the Bible teaches.  Christianity is a fraud. It teaches things not in the Bible and doesn't even promote following the 10 commandments.  

Get in those books people. If that's what you want to do.  Good for you.  But don't take this story and pass it off as the original meaning of the Bible.  This is our book.  The Hebrews. My ancestors wrote it and Christians and other religions have committed blasphemy in change the details and preaching false doctrine.  Your preachers are puppets and liars.  I challenge any of them.  Any time, any place.  They're full of shit.  Wake up Christians.

 
Title: Re: Christmas has nothing to do, with Christ. Let's be honest here.
Post by: thegamechanger on December 19, 2014, 01:20:22 PM
lets be honest here, why should anyone care what you think when you cant even post this on the right board
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Post by: SF1900 on December 19, 2014, 01:28:20 PM
This is how most people perceive the holidays:

Presents, time off from work, free food >  Christ
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Post by: King Shizzo on December 19, 2014, 01:45:46 PM
And the hebrews did nothing relevant in all of recorded history.

So what is your point?
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Post by: Nails on December 19, 2014, 01:46:51 PM
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Title: Re: Christmas has nothing to do, with Christ. Let's be honest here.
Post by: Wiggs on December 19, 2014, 01:50:06 PM
And the hebrews did nothing relevant in all of recorded history.

So what is your point?

Perhaps you should study history.  That Bible you have? Our forefathers wrote it. It's a book of history and prophecies for our people. We had a job to to, we failed, we were cursed.
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Post by: oldtimer1 on December 19, 2014, 01:51:40 PM
Does it really matter what date he was born on? We celebrate it and revere it no matter what the actual date it.  Giving presents makes our loved ones happy as we gather as a family. I go to Church every Sunday and yes on Christmas.  If Christmas just means getting and giving presents you missed the point.
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Post by: gracie bjj on December 19, 2014, 01:52:45 PM
i learned along time ago that jesus wasnt born in the winter and all that but even though i know that im not gonna deprive my son from one of the best times of the year for him by telling him that.the way i see it is people r happy for the most part and kids r happy cause they think santa claus is bringing them presents,im not gonna take that away from my son cause he loves the whole santa clause thing. just like halloween,i dont believe in it but i still take my son trick or treating cause he loves it,we all had our fun growing up and i wanna make sure my son has his fun to. as adults we know the truth though but its fun for the kids
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Post by: falco on December 19, 2014, 01:58:43 PM
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Post by: BigRo on December 19, 2014, 03:39:24 PM
God is not found in books and bibles, commandments and injunctions. God is found and realized in the Divine Heart within. "Open your eyes and your heart Judas not your mind"
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Post by: King Shizzo on December 19, 2014, 03:40:42 PM
God is not found in books and bibles, commandments and injunctions. God is found and realized in the Divine Heart within. "Open your eyes and your heart Judas not your mind"
Title: Re: Christmas has nothing to do, with Christ. Let's be honest here.
Post by: Mr.1derful on December 19, 2014, 03:41:55 PM
As I stated it's a Pagan Holiday. As are Easter and Halloween. The only thing the Bible says about anything pertaining to Christmas is the following: Jeremiah 10: 1 -16. Hear the word that the Lord speaks to you, O house of Israel. 2 Thus says the Lord:
“Learn not the way of the nations,
nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens
because the nations are dismayed at them,
3    for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down
and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman.
4    They decorate it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so that it cannot move.
5    Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field,
and they cannot speak;
they have to be carried,
for they cannot walk.
Do not be afraid of them,
for they cannot do evil,
neither is it in them to do good.”

Christ was not born December 25th.  

There is no legitimate scriptural reason not to celebrate Christmas. At the same time, there is no biblical mandate to celebrate it, either.

I understand it's tradition but tradition doesn't trump the Bible.  Christmas was banned in the U.S. until 1820s. December 25th is the birthdate of King Nimrod in the Bible.


I don't think most Christians read their Bibles or if they do, understand them. Add to that Christians blatantly violate a commandment and don't rest on the Sabbath which is Friday night/Saturday morning.   They eat pork and then say they're under grace....lmao When Christ said he came not to change the laws but to fulfill them.  Meaning he had to die for our sins.  So no, you must follow dietary laws. No pork, No fish with no scales and/or fins, no animals that don't have spit hooves and doesn't chew its cud. Furthermore, His name is Yashua, not "Jesus".  How are you going to change his name from Hebrew to a Greek name?  Another commandment violated is not having any graven images of anything in heaven or earth. You have crosses and angels and all kinds of garbage it says not to have.  Let's not forget Christ and the Hebrews are black in the Bible.

So what we have here is totally different than what the Bible teaches.  Christianity is a fraud. It teaches things not in the Bible and doesn't even promote following the 10 commandments.  

Get in those books people. If that's what you want to do.  Good for you.  But don't take this story and pass it off as the original meaning of the Bible.  This is our book.  The Hebrews. My ancestors wrote it and Christians and other religions have committed blasphemy in change the details and preaching false doctrine.  Your preachers are puppets and liars.  I challenge any of them.  Any time, any place.  They're full of shit.  Wake up Christians.

 

Like most holidays, it's ridiculous.  And as such, I refuse to celebrate the birth of Santa.
Title: Re: Christmas has nothing to do, with Christ. Let's be honest here.
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on December 19, 2014, 03:47:18 PM
Who cares, it's gives families an opportunity to get together, get drunk and fight. I think we can all get behind that. United as one, under the flag of the barbell, with liberty and justice for all. Amen.
Title: Re: Christmas has nothing to do, with Christ. Let's be honest here.
Post by: King Shizzo on December 19, 2014, 03:48:16 PM
No drinking for me this x-mas  :-X
Title: Re: Christmas has nothing to do, with Christ. Let's be honest here.
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on December 19, 2014, 03:49:30 PM
No drinking for me this x-mas  :-X

Good work shizzo. I'm sure all the guys at the Man Hole miss you.  :-*
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Post by: King Shizzo on December 19, 2014, 03:51:18 PM
Good work shizzo. I'm sure all the guys at the Man Hole miss you.  :-*
The Man Hole is a hot mess. I prefer the slippery whistle.
Title: Re: Christmas has nothing to do, with Christ. Let's be honest here.
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on December 19, 2014, 03:52:37 PM
The Man Hole is a hot mess. I prefer the slippery whistle.
:D
Title: Re: Christmas has nothing to do, with Christ. Let's be honest here.
Post by: Rudee on December 19, 2014, 04:34:18 PM
Who cares, just enjoy the holiday.  Here's an awesome version of a classic Christmas tune to cheer you sad sacks up.

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Post by: Irongrip400 on December 19, 2014, 04:40:56 PM
Went to Rome, learned of Matras, learned of why we celebrate the 25th. I have no issue with celebrating that day, as long as Christ is celebrated, and our Western ways promoted, I could care less.

Keep up the good fight though, Wiggs. See you in the next life.
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Post by: jr on December 19, 2014, 05:43:46 PM
Don't masturbate on christmas just in case

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Title: Re: Christmas has nothing to do, with Christ. Let's be honest here.
Post by: njflex on December 19, 2014, 05:44:19 PM
Does it really matter what date he was born on? We celebrate it and revere it no matter what the actual date it.  Giving presents makes our loved ones happy as we gather as a family. I go to Church every Sunday and yes on Christmas.  If Christmas just means getting and giving presents you missed the point.
the church is beautiful during advent...i go every week with daughter she is in ccd program till confirmation ,,,she loves getting the host,,,
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Post by: Man of Steel on December 19, 2014, 06:59:09 PM
The Roman Catholic church chose December 25th to celebrate the birth of Christ in an attempt to subvert the pagan celebrations that annually occurred at or around that same time; in essense, replacing pagan traditions with a celebration of Christ....it took too!   

No one knows the exact birthdate of Christ.  Some say it was in the spring and others the fall.  That said, the church made a strong attempt to establish the annual celebration of Christ's birth in a way that both glorifies our Lord and Savior and symbolically suppresses the evil of men.

The verses in Jeremiah don't refer to Christmas trees....that's a forced fit many employ for the sake of making an argument.  The verses refer to those people that fashioned wooden idols and decorated them for purposes of pagan worship.  And where does one get wood?  From trees in a forest.  Christians do not worship Christmas trees.

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Post by: The Ugly on December 19, 2014, 07:02:31 PM


Thoughts on black Jesus/Hebrews?
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Post by: Red Hook on December 19, 2014, 08:37:46 PM
i learned along time ago that jesus wasnt born in the winter and all that but even though i know that im not gonna deprive my son from one of the best times of the year for him by telling him that.the way i see it is people r happy for the most part and kids r happy cause they think santa claus is bringing them presents,im not gonna take that away from my son cause he loves the whole santa clause thing. just like halloween,i dont believe in it but i still take my son trick or treating cause he loves it,we all had our fun growing up and i wanna make sure my son has his fun to. as adults we know the truth though but its fun for the kids

and that is fine,  but I think that Wiggs point is to stop with the religious aspect of it as they are not true.

Have fun and give your son gifts, this should be done often and through out the year.

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Post by: Teutonic Knight on December 19, 2014, 08:53:46 PM
Perhaps you should study history.  That Bible you have? Our forefathers wrote it. It's a book of history and prophecies for our people. We had a job to to, we failed, we were cursed.

Name just 1 Nobel Prize winner who support your idiotism  ;D

Still no 'pictor' of blacky Jeeezuus birth certificate  :D

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Post by: James28 on December 19, 2014, 09:05:30 PM
People still believe/do the Jesus thing on December 25th?  :D

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Post by: Mobil on December 20, 2014, 12:51:45 AM
just saw a car with it written on the back window" christmas for jesus not santa claus" . makes sense how christmas has lost its original purpose.
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Post by: Dave D on December 20, 2014, 01:37:32 AM
As I stated it's a Pagan Holiday. As are Easter and Halloween. The only thing the Bible says about anything pertaining to Christmas is the following: Jeremiah 10: 1 -16. Hear the word that the Lord speaks to you, O house of Israel. 2 Thus says the Lord:
“Learn not the way of the nations,
nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens
because the nations are dismayed at them,
3    for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down
and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman.
4    They decorate it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so that it cannot move.
5    Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field,
and they cannot speak;
they have to be carried,
for they cannot walk.
Do not be afraid of them,
for they cannot do evil,
neither is it in them to do good.”

Christ was not born December 25th.  

There is no legitimate scriptural reason not to celebrate Christmas. At the same time, there is no biblical mandate to celebrate it, either.

I understand it's tradition but tradition doesn't trump the Bible.  Christmas was banned in the U.S. until 1820s. December 25th is the birthdate of King Nimrod in the Bible.


I don't think most Christians read their Bibles or if they do, understand them. Add to that Christians blatantly violate a commandment and don't rest on the Sabbath which is Friday night/Saturday morning.   They eat pork and then say they're under grace....lmao When Christ said he came not to change the laws but to fulfill them.  Meaning he had to die for our sins.  So no, you must follow dietary laws. No pork, No fish with no scales and/or fins, no animals that don't have spit hooves and doesn't chew its cud. Furthermore, His name is Yashua, not "Jesus".  How are you going to change his name from Hebrew to a Greek name?  Another commandment violated is not having any graven images of anything in heaven or earth. You have crosses and angels and all kinds of garbage it says not to have.  Let's not forget Christ and the Hebrews are black in the Bible.

So what we have here is totally different than what the Bible teaches.  Christianity is a fraud. It teaches things not in the Bible and doesn't even promote following the 10 commandments.  

Get in those books people. If that's what you want to do.  Good for you.  But don't take this story and pass it off as the original meaning of the Bible.  This is our book.  The Hebrews. My ancestors wrote it and Christians and other religions have committed blasphemy in change the details and preaching false doctrine.  Your preachers are puppets and liars.  I challenge any of them.  Any time, any place.  They're full of shit.  Wake up Christians.

 

So Christmas was banned but slavery was not........ interesting times.

Troll on brother troll on
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Post by: gracie bjj on December 20, 2014, 01:41:58 AM
and that is fine,  but I think that Wiggs point is to stop with the religious aspect of it as they are not true.

Have fun and give your son gifts, this should be done often and through out the year.



christmas is all year at my house for my son,i spoil him every time i can. hes 8 already and i know hes gonna realize the truth that theres no santa clause one of these years,so im trying to let him enjoy it to the fullest
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Post by: monstermunch on December 20, 2014, 12:06:17 PM
Christmas is for some dusty arab sandn1g who liked his omega 3's and wine based diuretics.
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Post by: Erik C on December 20, 2014, 01:14:19 PM
Let's see, elves, reindeer, candy canes, snowmen, decorated trees, yule log, presents, mistletoe, getting drunk, my kind of religion! J.C,? Read: THE SACRED MUSHROOM AND THE CROSS by John Allegro, to dispel all the biblical lies.
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Post by: mryorkielover on December 20, 2014, 10:03:26 PM
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Post by: Tapeworm on December 21, 2014, 05:27:16 AM
Ok let's be honest then.  It's 100 degrees here.  These people are crackers.  It's not Christmas.  It's Thursday.  I'm going to work.
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Post by: peruke on December 21, 2014, 06:19:48 AM
Don't masturbate on christmas just in case

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Thank you....The most intelligent post here....Thank you!!! ;)
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Post by: Alucard on December 21, 2014, 06:21:55 AM
Lol at the bible, a fantasy book written by some cave dwellers... And the Roman Catholic Church IS pagan, they worship different gods, Cybele, Moloch, Dagon and others... Christmas, just a day eating good food and stay with family, and i'm probably working just like every other day too...
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Post by: scottt on December 21, 2014, 06:41:04 AM
When I learned these things I stopped celebrating the holidays still visit with the family but don't participate or recognize the holidays. Stopped going to church because they almost all do things against the scriptures and GOD.
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Post by: Immortal_Technique on December 21, 2014, 09:03:55 AM
Indeed Christmas actually happens. Christ is made up.
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Post by: Natural Man on December 21, 2014, 09:37:42 AM
christmas tree is a pagan cult coming from the scandinavians / vikings initally, it was integrated into the christian cult later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_tree


Everything is an illusion, wiggs, even believing in god.
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Post by: James28 on December 21, 2014, 10:43:04 AM
christmas tree is a pagan cult coming from the scandinavians / vikings initally, it was integrated into the christian cult later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_tree


Everything is an illusion, wiggs, even believing in god.

You used to be a staunch Christian. What happened?
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Post by: Natural Man on December 21, 2014, 11:30:43 AM
You used to be a staunch Christian. What happened?
life and its inherent, absurd cruelty happened.
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Post by: thegamechanger on December 21, 2014, 11:31:31 AM
everything is an illusion but santa.
and the christmas tree is a celebration of massive erect penis with a lot of bush and balls.
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Post by: Teutonic Knight on December 21, 2014, 12:05:50 PM
Just another hot & sunny Christmas on the beach  8)
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Post by: James28 on December 21, 2014, 12:09:04 PM
life and its inherent, absurd cruelty happened.

Life ain't that bad man. But I'm glad you managed to see past that absurdity that is religion. Leave it for the blacks to hang on to as their miserable fucking lives need Devine purpose/intervention.

Have you found a new job/career yet? Or still studying?
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Post by: affeman on December 21, 2014, 12:21:22 PM
life and its inherent, absurd cruelty happened.

So now you start having fun in life and chase pussy, like all the other mere mortals? :D