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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: mikewhoelse on January 06, 2015, 02:36:31 PM
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i have the feeling that Testosterone is Getting more and more hate ...
Do certain steroids Really give certain looks...?
Or are Ppl to dumb to dose ai correctly Or Even use them (if test is causing bloating etc)
Who Loves high test+Ai only cycles on here and why
LETS GO
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i dont love high test only cycles but i love high test cycles
facts: test is very side effect free UNLESS:
-you dont control estrogen
-your diet is shit (=you overeat)
test is cheap. test is not harsh. test WORKS.
of course test is not as forgiving as for example tren when it comes to cheat meals and unclean eating (sodium, water retention) but thats why you just run tren WITH it, lol.
ill said it before and ill say it again, test and tren is really all thats ever needed
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If I have my diet perfect I can look pretty damn good on 350mgs of test only. Test only is cheap and easy to manage with sides u can gain or cut with it but if u want to look your best... Then b On tren
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Test makes you a thicker version of what you're. If you want to look impressive and have some pop you really need to stack it with something. You can do test masteron test deca test tren test Npp test eq test and orals. By itself you won't be too happy with it especially if you have experience. The first cycle might be enjoyable because you put on weight and gain strength but after that you really need more than just test.
At least I did. Test at 500mg and Npp at 500mg is was away better than some gram of test.
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See my whole thing with test was that it caps... Like I can run 400mgs or I can run 4g controlling estrogen is a pain and AIs are expensive. Either way isn't the point to reach an end without over saturating it. Like if you could weigh 225 contest ready on 400 mgs why would you shoot over that. Especially if you have to play with AIs and watch your diet all the time. What's the point isn't that more unhealthy?
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would you rather run
1g test 1g tren 1g npp
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2g test 1g tren
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would you rather run
1g test 1g tren 1g npp
or
2g test 1g tren
2g test 1g tren 1g npp ;)
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2g test 1g tren 1g npp ;)
haha you mother fuker me too mee too - but gotta cut down this month got bills to pay ect car insurance.
could always take hgh out for a month n run that above ;)
wonder how much difference id see from lack of hgh for a few months - been on 5ius a day for 4 months could take it out for 2 and then re - introduce
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What sort of AI / caber protocol are guys running when over 2g?
I was fine for 12.5mg aromasin EOD + 0.5mg cabergoline a week on 500 test, 800 bold, 350 npp, 700mg anadrol and 350 tren but I was holding a lot of water lol
Running just 250mg at the moment of testosterone, 8 weeks off everything else and starting to look really great dieted down.
Gonna run 150 test p, 350 tren ace, 350 masteron a week with 20mg of epistane a day in a couple weeks time
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Do u get anything out of epi at 20mg a day?
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personaly epi did nothing for me ran it about 4 years ago
thats lowwww doses, but if you get something out off it props to you!
take arimidex 1mg e3d - got abit of gyno tbh but gna hit it with letro when i start cutting usually kills it.
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What sort of AI / caber protocol are guys running when over 2g?
I was fine for 12.5mg aromasin EOD + 0.5mg cabergoline a week on 500 test, 800 bold, 350 npp, 700mg anadrol and 350 tren but I was holding a lot of water lol
Running just 250mg at the moment of testosterone, 8 weeks off everything else and starting to look really great dieted down.
Gonna run 150 test p, 350 tren ace, 350 masteron a week with 20mg of epistane a day in a couple weeks time
1mg adex a day for 2g test
probably dont need that much, 0.66mg ed would do aswell i guess
but joints dont hurt or whatever and i look pretty damn good and relatively dry
i dont even run caber on 1g tren nowadays
just when nips start itching or for a sex boost
dont seem to need it at the moment though
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Do u get anything out of epi at 20mg a day?
no run it at double that and you will get a masteron combined with ai effect
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I ran it at like 50mgs or more I can't remember but didn't really notice much
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I decided on 20mg because 150/350/350 is 850 and 20mg a day would give me a gram
If it fits your milligrams lol
Yeah I do notice a difference with it also, I don't need much. I ran it at 50mg twice before and it made me sick in less than a week
Also cheers Jizmo
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sick off epistane jeeeeeeez - spose everyone is different
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sick off epistane jeeeeeeez - spose everyone is different
I was fine on 100mg anadrol with 100mg of dbol a day for 6 weeks lol
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strange!
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I prefer to run low dose Test with another compound like Eq or Deca. Maybe add some Var into the mix.
I haven't used an AI in 5 years.
Also, two years ago i ran 600mg Eq and 600mg Deca for 16 weeks; felt great the entire time with no issues. I can't say it made me look any different.
The only compounds that really make me look different, when i'm lean, are Tren, Winny, Drol and GH.
I still believe a low replacement dose of Test is needed for about any cycle, but leaning away from high Test cycles mainly due to BP issues. I actually hold more water on Deca than any other compound, but with a tight diet i don't get bloated on high doses of anything really. Test and Tren just seem to send my BP through the roof.
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I agree with overload I run my cycles the same way, however I don't see a need for deca anymore. Eq possibly but by and large Im not a fan of the look I get which why buy what ha don't want lol
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I was fine on 100mg anadrol with 100mg of dbol a day for 6 weeks lol
Holy Hell you must have been short tempered!!!
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My Problem is the Lack of Options..
1. Deca Boats me... And is proven to be more damaging to the Hertha
2. Tren fucks my skin, BP and mind
3. Primo is awesome but faked and expensive
4.eq is craaaazy for hemocritlevels and anxiety
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Holy Hell you must have been short tempered!!!
dbol makes most people pretty chill
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My Problem is the Lack of Options..
1. Deca Boats me... And is proven to be more damaging to the Hertha
2. Tren fucks my skin, BP and mind
3. Primo is awesome but faked and expensive
4.eq is craaaazy for hemocritlevels and anxiety
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dont do steroids then.
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dont do steroids then.
Yeah or just run a dose that gives manageable sides and stay on it year round
500mg weekly is plenty to maintain a large physique. Just pick 2 or 3 compounds and make it up to 500mg lol
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exactly
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I next to never run test. Gotten plenty big without it.
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I next to never run test. Gotten plenty big without it.
whats your standard protocol for growing?
ive got to 235lbs pretty lean without alot of test max 1g with other compounds in the background
only thias month im looking to run 3g test on top of my other compounds to see if more test with more food can help be get past the 240 mark
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whats your standard protocol for growing?
ive got to 235lbs pretty lean without alot of test max 1g with other compounds in the background
only thias month im looking to run 3g test on top of my other compounds to see if more test with more food can help be get past the 240 mark
uhh, aren't you on slin and gh also?
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yep - wont be running gh this month though and only been running slin for around 5 weeks now
when i say low test it works out to around 1.5 but its all prop highest i went is 2g but only for a month
usuually around 3-6 grams of gear it changes each month depending on my finances.
i have a life outside bodybuilding in the last few weeks ive been deciding whats most important to me. and re-evaluating my shit.
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yep - wont be running gh this month though and only been running slin for around 5 weeks now
when i say low test it works out to around 1.5 but its all prop highest i went is 2g but only for a month
usuually around 3-6 grams of gear it changes each month depending on my finances.
i have a life outside bodybuilding in the last few weeks ive been deciding whats most important to me. and re-evaluating my shit.
tough act to balance for sure...
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tough act to balance for sure...
for sure mate. its a head fuck thats for sure, when you have a pretty steady mrs planning your future together, savings, you know the drill. and running high doses or i though it was high untill i read what bostin loyd runs costs a large chunck of my wage id say just under a 1/4 of my wage.
i do live at home half the week with rents but i still pay rent at the place i share with mrs.
theres also health concearns having children...... the HUGE list that comes with this 'sport'
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fuck this is me lol
ive been serious with a great girl for 2 months (actually had something going on for over a year before that) and from time to time she brings up the idea to make me choose between her and the bodybuilding lifestyle
she hates it when my cheeks get puffy and this always happens around the 8 week mark when im bulking no matter how low my BF is
i might have to keep my off seasons short :(
shes also only 100lbs (small and petite but a great body) so im twice as heavy as her
shes probably afraid that i crush her when im on top :D or drown her in my sweat (thanks tren)
luckily im an eloquent guy and could always talk her out of it so far but that shit makes you rethink your intentions for sure
worst thing is im an egotistic fucker and love bodybuilding as much as i love her. hate myself for that because shes a one in a million gem.
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u post a lot in here I doubt u r gonna stop all this because she wants u to do so. lol go ahead and tell her u r a lifer... I could b wrong though
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whats your standard protocol for growing?
ive got to 235lbs pretty lean without alot of test max 1g with other compounds in the background
only thias month im looking to run 3g test on top of my other compounds to see if more test with more food can help be get past the 240 mark
No exact protocol but I do favor EQ. Doesn't mean you or someone else will. I don't use test pretty much ever unless a small amount might be in a compound I may be using. If your stuff is legit then 1G max or less will certainly be enough to get pretty much all the size you need. doing 3G test a week at your stage is pretty much a waste.
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No exact protocol but I do favor EQ. Doesn't mean you or someone else will. I don't use test pretty much ever unless a small amount might be in a compound I may be using. If your stuff is legit then 1G max or less will certainly be enough to get pretty much all the size you need. doing 3G test a week at your stage is pretty much a waste.
Sort of off topic, but do you thing there is the same amount of synergy between HGH and all other AAS, as opposed to HGH and test?
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Sort of off topic, but do you thing there is the same amount of synergy between HGH and all other AAS, as opposed to HGH and test?
I don't think there is any between test and gh so no. Now gh and slin yes
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great advice.
Jizmo - ive thought about breaking up with a girl i love alot - because id have an extra 3-400 quid a month to spend on bodybuilding lol
then i reliased thats pretty fucking stupid -
now i have it in my head if we do break up hey i can spend the extra on bodybuilding lol win - win
chances of getting to 35 with little savings due to hopw much i spend on gear - high if i continue 90%
chance of getting mr olympia by age 35 - extreamly Low possibly below 5%
so whats the point? if life is a game of maximising your chances
chances of staying 215- 30 and being very ripped - maybe dropping down into physique and winning - alot higher - market yourself well on youtube instagram more chance off adding money to your pocket - and still being big enough to look huge in public ,
thats my kind of thought process at the momemt tbh
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luckily my girl doesnt cost me anything lol. we both go to college so its not like she expects me to finance her
a few presents here and there, going out to eat etc, who cares about the couple bucks
but otherwise i have a similar thought process
no exact plans though, i just blast the shit out of anything for the next 2-3 years and see where that takes me. if its not a 1 in a million top physique then ill drop down to (high^^) cruise dosages for life and just look good and feel good
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great advice.
Jizmo - ive thought about breaking up with a girl i love alot - because id have an extra 3-400 quid a month to spend on bodybuilding lol
then i reliased thats pretty fucking stupid -
now i have it in my head if we do break up hey i can spend the extra on bodybuilding lol win - win
chances of getting to 35 with little savings due to hopw much i spend on gear - high if i continue 90%
chance of getting mr olympia by age 35 - extreamly Low possibly below 5%
so whats the point? if life is a game of maximising your chances
chances of staying 215- 30 and being very ripped - maybe dropping down into physique and winning - alot higher - market yourself well on youtube instagram more chance off adding money to your pocket - and still being big enough to look huge in public ,
thats my kind of thought process at the momemt tbh
Good luck making money in the fitness "industry".
Why even bother? Just use to look and feel good and make a living in an unrelated field
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Good luck making money in the fitness "industry".
Why even bother? Just use to look and feel good and make a living in an unrelated field
probably right mate.
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Good luck making money in the fitness "industry".
Why even bother? Just use to look and feel good and make a living in an unrelated field
This
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No exact protocol but I do favor EQ. Doesn't mean you or someone else will. I don't use test pretty much ever unless a small amount might be in a compound I may be using. If your stuff is legit then 1G max or less will certainly be enough to get pretty much all the size you need. doing 3G test a week at your stage is pretty much a waste.
what about libido issues
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i have the feeling that Testosterone is Getting more and more hate ...
Do certain steroids Really give certain looks...?
Or are Ppl to dumb to dose ai correctly Or Even use them (if test is causing bloating etc)
Who Loves high test+Ai only cycles on here and why
LETS GO
Always hated test, only take it when im broke as fuck and dont have any other choice
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I guess I'm in the minority because I love test. Safer compared to most other anabolics and provides great mass gains.
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I guess I'm in the minority because I love test. Safer compared to most other anabolics and provides great mass gains.
same here
cheap, effective and easy to abuse relatively side effect free
realistically what else can you run in the 2+g range without real sides...
its all down to test and deca/npp imo
EQ? no thx, anxiety and blood pressure
primo? too expensive and faked
mast? too expensive and doesnt really give gains
tren? expensive and 1g definitely is enough to see massive gains
orals? not over 1g a week...
so to push the high dosages its all down to a high test base and high deca/npp if you ask me
that being said, ive never run deca and NPP gets hard to run >1g because of all the oil youll have to shoot
run as much test as you can, a gram of tren alongside and you probably wont need anything else though AAS wise
if you want more of a calm ride in the offseason run then run as much test as you can and as much deca/npp as you can :)
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same here
cheap, effective and easy to abuse relatively side effect free
realistically what else can you run in the 2+g range without real sides...
its all down to test and deca/npp imo
EQ? no thx, anxiety and blood pressure
primo? too expensive and faked
mast? too expensive and doesnt really give gains
tren? expensive and 1g definitely is enough to see massive gains
orals? not over 1g a week...
so to push the high dosages its all down to a high test base and high deca/npp if you ask me
that being said, ive never run deca and NPP gets hard to run >1g because of all the oil youll have to shoot
run as much test as you can, a gram of tren alongside and you probably wont need anything else though AAS wise
if you want more of a calm ride in the offseason run then run as much test as you can and as much deca/npp as you can :)
Yup, and even nandrolone has a really scary fact that it's 11 times more damaging to blood vessels than test. I keep hearing great things about trestolone, I'm hoping the heart issues aren't that bad with that one. I think in a few years, people will be talking about trest like it's a regular AAS people use.
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so how high would you push the test without any gh in the system? Ive heard ppl saying anything more than 600#750 is useless
opinions?
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so how high would you push the test without any gh in the system? Ive heard ppl saying anything more than 600#750 is useless
opinions?
more is better. simple as that
of course nobody can say "i gained xx% more muscle from 2g compared to 1g"
but at least i feel like its extremely hard to put on fat with 2g test in your system (no GH). then again i run tren with it but even without the tren your metabolism is churning on high test
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^^^
also people need to shut the fuk up about gh15's u can only run high amounts with high HGH
this is bollocks.
more test = more fullness and more gains end off
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great advice.
Jizmo - ive thought about breaking up with a girl i love alot - because id have an extra 3-400 quid a month to spend on bodybuilding lol
then i reliased thats pretty fucking stupid -
now i have it in my head if we do break up hey i can spend the extra on bodybuilding lol win - win
chances of getting to 35 with little savings due to hopw much i spend on gear - high if i continue 90%
chance of getting mr olympia by age 35 - extreamly Low possibly below 5%
so whats the point? if life is a game of maximising your chances
chances of staying 215- 30 and being very ripped - maybe dropping down into physique and winning - alot higher - market yourself well on youtube instagram more chance off adding money to your pocket - and still being big enough to look huge in public ,
thats my kind of thought process at the momemt tbh
I lived the bodybuilding lifestyle for 12 years and made a lot of stupid decisions based on maximizing my potential. Today I'm glad i enjoyed it for what it was, but i wouldn't sacrifice having a real life for it. In fact, i think almost everyone can reach their full potential while not sacrificing a real life or relationships. I never told anyone i used gear, not even my closest friends and family, but they probably knew anyway because they asked me about it and still do.
I knew I'd never be Mr. Olympia or the World's Strongest Man, but i trained like it for a long time. I put my health in jeopardy many times using stupid doses in order to bench a few more pounds or gain a few pounds of muscle. I was a big dude for a long time and stronger than almost anyone i came across. Won many power lifting events and even featured in Powerlifting USA magazine in the mid-00's.
Today my joints are shot and I'm 215 pounds. I was 250 with a 32" waist for most of my "career". I wouldn't go back and change it, but I'm glad i did catch myself before anything serious happen. I always did blood work and the minute it got out of line i took precaution. At one point i was using over 5g's of combined AAS for months on end, i thought i was bulletproof. I LIVED the life and ended relationships over it, i was dedicated but obsessed with becoming something i know i never would be anyway, i just wanted to play the part. I wanted to be like Jon Pall Sigmarsson and we all see what happen to him.
I'm healthy now, 215 pounds 5'11" and 8% BF. My joints are trashed, i can't lift half of what i used to just because of my joints. I look great, most people think I'm still "living the life", everyone still always asks me about how my training is going and diet. The truth today, i use 200mg Test E and maybe 600mg Eq or Deca now and then. I train 3 days a week and do Muay Thai twice a week. My diet is good, but not great, i drink beer every weekend and live normal, i don't even really think about bodybuilding, i just do it.
But you know what? I LOVE my life today, i used to have a pretty boring life, always worried about training and eating. Live life, have fun and get big. You can do it all if you are structured and dedicated. Don't sacrifice your life for this game IMO.
Anyway, i don't post much anymore, I'm just not in this game like i was, but i still love it and how important it was for me. It helped me become more driven and structured, i think it made me a better person due to discipline.
Take care.
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^^^
love this very motivating and im glad your health is good.
like you say you can live the BB life and still have a life IF.... your not obbsessed with it
most of the time gear comes before most things. kind of dont want to live like that anymore. want to try and slowly put this obbsession away from trophies and into something that benefits me while still looking big and lean.
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I lived the bodybuilding lifestyle for 12 years and made a lot of stupid decisions based on maximizing my potential. Today I'm glad i enjoyed it for what it was, but i wouldn't sacrifice having a real life for it. In fact, i think almost everyone can reach their full potential while not sacrificing a real life or relationships. I never told anyone i used gear, not even my closest friends and family, but they probably knew anyway because they asked me about it and still do.
I knew I'd never be Mr. Olympia or the World's Strongest Man, but i trained like it for a long time. I put my health in jeopardy many times using stupid doses in order to bench a few more pounds or gain a few pounds of muscle. I was a big dude for a long time and stronger than almost anyone i came across. Won many power lifting events and even featured in Powerlifting USA magazine in the mid-00's.
Today my joints are shot and I'm 215 pounds. I was 250 with a 32" waist for most of my "career". I wouldn't go back and change it, but I'm glad i did catch myself before anything serious happen. I always did blood work and the minute it got out of line i took precaution. At one point i was using over 5g's of combined AAS for months on end, i thought i was bulletproof. I LIVED the life and ended relationships over it, i was dedicated but obsessed with becoming something i know i never would be anyway, i just wanted to play the part. I wanted to be like Jon Pall Sigmarsson and we all see what happen to him.
I'm healthy now, 215 pounds 5'11" and 8% BF. My joints are trashed, i can't lift half of what i used to just because of my joints. I look great, most people think I'm still "living the life", everyone still always asks me about how my training is going and diet. The truth today, i use 200mg Test E and maybe 600mg Eq or Deca now and then. I train 3 days a week and do Muay Thai twice a week. My diet is good, but not great, i drink beer every weekend and live normal, i don't even really think about bodybuilding, i just do it.
But you know what? I LOVE my life today, i used to have a pretty boring life, always worried about training and eating. Live life, have fun and get big. You can do it all if you are structured and dedicated. Don't sacrifice your life for this game IMO.
Anyway, i don't post much anymore, I'm just not in this game like i was, but i still love it and how important it was for me. It helped me become more driven and structured, i think it made me a better person due to discipline.
Take care.
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That is a great post! There is nothing much to say but thank you and I think you are bang on! We get so caught up in a fabricated world that life passes us by... It is true in bodybuilding but in all other areas too: people sacrificing their family for their academic pursue, people always chasing for that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, only to wake up one day wondering where all those years have gone by. Never taking time to just give a hug to you kids, never connecting deeply with anyone around you, never stopping to enjoy the simple pleasures of life...
I am glad you are healthy and really do wish you the best of luck!
Take care,