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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Powerlifting / Strongman => Topic started by: Throw2far on February 21, 2006, 09:39:22 PM
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Bill Kazmaier is the World's Greatest Strongman! He is a philanthropist in every definition of the word. He gave his life to the lord jesus christ and has spent the last 15 years touring the country reaching out to children. He opens their eyes and ears with great feats of strength, opens their hearts with his testimonial of the strength of love, and saves their souls with the word of god. He has toured with the YMCA, a Strength Team, Strive, and MET-Rx around the country reaching out to Armed Forces, Business Executives, Children, and Lost Teens alike, just trying to do the one thing he promised he would do as he won his third Worlds Strongest Man title: Give Back.
Bill Kazmaier is not only an exceptional human being, he just happens to be the strongest man to ever walk the earth, save one: Jesus. In a time when only 5 men in the history of the world had benched 600 lbs, he did 600 FIVE TIMES RAW! He set numerous records, including World Record Total, Deadlift, Bench, Overhead DB Press, Thomas Inch etc... just to name a few.
His Total sets him apart from the rest of the powerlifters. 2425 is undoubtedly the most amazing lift every accomplished. Gary Frank's lifts were suited @ 2800. Gene Rylacheck with a suit gets 400 lbs OFF HIS BENCH ALONE! No one has ever combined the three lifts in such a dominant manner, and in a time when the norm was 1gram a week, not 10grams a week with Slin, GH, IGF-1, PGF2, Myostatin Inhibitors etc... Bill Kazmaier was a man amongst boys and his prowess has yet to be touched today in the realm of Powerlifting.
Bill Kazmaier was also the Greatest Worlds Strongest Man Competitor to ever walk the face of the earth. He competed once and got 7 1sts, 2 2nds and a third. There has never been such a dominating performance. He doubled 1005 Dollar Deadlift like it was a joke. He tossed the implements when others had to run with them. He squatted over 900 lbs when a shadow like Mariusz could only rep 700 7 times (not to mention Mariusz's 595 bench.)
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youre forgetting Mariusz is outweightd by about 50lbs, and his squat is also around 900. That said, Bill is a freak of nature that we probably might never see again
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Glenn Ross 1000+ kg RAW in powerlifting
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Bill Kazmaier is the World's Greatest Strongman! He is a philanthropist in every definition of the word. He gave his life to the lord jesus christ and has spent the last 15 years touring the country reaching out to children. He opens their eyes and ears with great feats of strength, opens their hearts with his testimonial of the strength of love, and saves their souls with the word of god. He has toured with the YMCA, a Strength Team, Strive, and MET-Rx around the country reaching out to Armed Forces, Business Executives, Children, and Lost Teens alike, just trying to do the one thing he promised he would do as he won his third Worlds Strongest Man title: Give Back.
Bill Kazmaier is not only an exceptional human being, he just happens to be the strongest man to ever walk the earth, save one: Jesus. In a time when only 5 men in the history of the world had benched 600 lbs, he did 600 FIVE TIMES RAW! He set numerous records, including World Record Total, Deadlift, Bench, Overhead DB Press, Thomas Inch etc... just to name a few.
His Total sets him apart from the rest of the powerlifters. 2425 is undoubtedly the most amazing lift every accomplished. Gary Frank's lifts were suited @ 2800. Gene Rylacheck with a suit gets 400 lbs OFF HIS BENCH ALONE! No one has ever combined the three lifts in such a dominant manner, and in a time when the norm was 1gram a week, not 10grams a week with Slin, GH, IGF-1, PGF2, Myostatin Inhibitors etc... Bill Kazmaier was a man amongst boys and his prowess has yet to be touched today in the realm of Powerlifting.
Bill Kazmaier was also the Greatest Worlds Strongest Man Competitor to ever walk the face of the earth. He competed once and got 7 1sts, 2 2nds and a third. There has never been such a dominating performance. He doubled 1005 Dollar Deadlift like it was a joke. He tossed the implements when others had to run with them. He squatted over 900 lbs when a shadow like Mariusz could only rep 700 7 times (not to mention Mariusz's 595 bench.)
You forgot to mention the X-ray vision.
YIP
Zack
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if it was based on just pure stationary power then Glenn Ross would be number1. None of this bullshit of picking things up and running with them, just lifting the heaviest weight you can on the spot. Hes not called The Daddy for nothing
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saying that, you have to take into account Mariusz' insane bodyfat percentage. You see guys like Ross, Henry, Pfister, Girard etc with 2-3+* the bodyfat of Mariusz and he still blows them away. Hes only 28 too
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Mariusz look more like 45, not aging well.
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if it was based on just pure stationary power then Glenn Ross would be number1. None of this bullshit of picking things up and running with them, just lifting the heaviest weight you can on the spot. Hes not called The Daddy for nothing
HAHAHA. How do you know they call him "The Daddy" haha
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every1 who is a fan of Glenn Ross knows hes called the daddy ::)
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http://www.irishstrongman.com/aboutus/profile.asp (http://www.irishstrongman.com/aboutus/profile.asp)
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Nice link. 400kg squat/deads with no suit!!! the man aint human
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something tells me you know what Bill's dick looks like.
Orgasm, go ahead and rip Kaz now. I suppose he has "monster triceps" in your book. I suppose your bigger than him and would intimidate him in the gym.
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Jon Pall Sigmundsson kicked Kaz's ass
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Jon Pall Sigmundsson kicked Kaz's ass
If you wanna sound authoritative on the subject...at least spell the name right ::)
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If you wanna sound authoritative on the subject...at least spell the name right ::)
hahaha.
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If you wanna sound authoritative on the subject...at least spell the name right ::)
Yeah, I meant Sigmarsson :-[
And it's not a spelling issue it's just that I get those last names mixed up, they sound similar in Icelandic.
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He was pretty intense.
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GREAT PICTURE!
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He was pretty intense.
Is Bill intense or constipated??
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in theory, if you took Kaz in his prime and threw him in with the guys today, with all the equipment and performance enhancing drugs there are now what would he be lifting? This is under the assumption that he responded to all the new stuff very well
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Buddha, Ghandi, Kaz... they were all pretty good.
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kaz would be right at the top with the equipment 1,000 bench 1,200 squat and high 900 deadlift.i had the pleasure of meeting kaz in december as he does motivational speechs.he was truly inspiring as did a lot of strength feats.he must have been about 330 to 350 since i'm around 310 and he was much bigger then me.many people overlook kaz's hand strength which is among the best.he bent a 10 inch 3/4 of inch galvinized steel into a complete u with the sides touching.he also bent one of those steel rods from the wsm into a fish.
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kaz would be right at the top with the equipment 1,000 bench 1,200 squat and high 900 deadlift.i had the pleasure of meeting kaz in december as he does motivational speechs.he was truly inspiring as did a lot of strength feats.he must have been about 330 to 350 since i'm around 310 and he was much bigger then me.many people overlook kaz's hand strength which is among the best.he bent a 10 inch 3/4 of inch galvinized steel into a complete u with the sides touching.he also bent one of those steel rods from the wsm into a fish.
Kaz was the greatest but there's no way he would have deadlifted in the high 900's, he might have been able to do 910 or so, and his squat with equipment would have been around 1020-1030.
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do you know kaz has already deadlifted 907 without a deadlift suit and that was 23 years ago.no question he would do 1200 he was the world recorder holder in the squat.as a matter of fact he held the record in the bench press,squat and deadlift.the man is the strongest ever to walk the earth.the stuff he can do now at 52 is amazing.how many guys can bend a 3/4 inch galvinized steel bolt very very few.all i can say is wow :o i was just at lowe's the other day looking for pennys and bolts to bend.i got my hands on some of that galvinized steel man.i've been working with those captains of crush the 2 and 3 and i couoldn';t even make a dent in it.john brookfied mr hands says most powerlifters have weak hands well kaz don't.i shook his hand and felt the power.brent mikesell can squat and jeff lewis and garry frank can then there isn;t a question that kaz can lift it.i mean look at that pic that guy posted the muscle on that guy is unbelivable those traps.no less then don reinhoudt said kaz was the strongest that ever lived.
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like i said i have all the respect in the world for Kaz but i go only on PROVEN COMPETITION lifts not training bullshit heresay, there is no fucking way that Kaz would have squatted 1200 to legal depth, his official best was like 930-935 with a suit, not a suit like they have today but it was a suit and anyone will tell you that deadlift suits don't add much to the deadlift, his OFFICIAL best was 886 and with some specialized work on it he may have hit 910 or 915.
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the deadlift was not in training it was in a exhibition in front of the whole powerlifting community 907.Brent mikesell would beg to differ on the deadlift suit he says his suit is awesome and adds pounds.think about this Dave waddington was the first person to officially squat 1,000.in the wsm competition KAZ outsquatted him yelling these are the strongest legs in the world.kaz also did 970 somewhere no suit.plus kaz's squats weren't good mornings that passed for squats.i don't remember kaz ever using a suit.well think if it like this would mike miller or Jeff lewis squat 1200 without a squat suit hell no.they might get a 1,000 that's it,tell them to take those sissy suits off and see what they really can do.the first thing that happens is they both lean over really bad because the lack of a suit even Brent said this when i asked him on his web site, that he leans over terribly without a suit.the nest thing you'll tell me is that kaz couldn;t bench with mendy or ryclak.you also have to remember the drugs are so much better today,look at what they did for barry bonds.
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as far as the bench goes i actually think that Kaz was STRONGER than Mendy or Kenelly but not as strong as Jim Williams who i consider the best bencher ever, Kaz could never outsquat Jeff Lewis, Jeff weighs 500 lbs. and just has too much sheer bodyweight on Kaz.
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but jeff has a ton and i mean ton of fat on him kaz was pure muscle 7 percent at 350 and paul anderson was 350 and he did 1200 with a lot of fat.miksell has the best squat as far as that system goes and he did outsquat jeff at a much lighter weight brent was a 308 when he had his big squat.jim williams was a great bencher that nobody today knows about or remembers he was good.don reinhoudt said the two greatest benchers in his opinion were jim williams and kaz.they should all take that equipment off and go at it the way it was meant to be.olympic lifters don;t use gear even though they really couldn;t design gear for their lifts but it's all them.somebody on this site was taslking nabout how ryclak hurt himself going after that 1008 bench because he went nowhere near his body could handle without the gear,which would be about 700.the wrist wraps are outrageous too what use to be an ace bandage turned into some super contraption.as fore todays drugs look what they did to bonds,in that pick there he was already in college 20,21 the roids turned him into a different person
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i agree with you that Kaz was one of the two or three best supers in history but he wasn't 7 percent BF more like 11 or 12 which is still extremely low for a PL'er weighing 330 and Jim Williams and Kaz were probably about equal on the bench now that i think about it, Jim did 700 raw at York Barbell in front of a number of guys on the US Olympic lifting team in 1972, Kaz i think did 661 or so in a meet, i don't think Kaz ever officially squatted 970 but i don't doubt that he did it in training but the squat you mentioned against Waddington in WSM was only a partial lift on a machine, i don't remember hearing about him pulling 907 anywhere but i do remember hearing about Jon Cole pulling 900 in an exhibition.
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it was on american strength legends beofre the site shut down he did it in a 1983 powerlifting exhibition.that 661 was the world record he set.i never heard of the cole 900 though.he still beat waddington at his own lift ;) even if it was a partial squat.they had been hyping dave's lift when kaz beat him that was the same year i think kaz did the coin lift twice in a row.
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yeah i think Bill was stronger all around then Dave, Dave may have been a little better competion squatter i don't think he was very familiar with the apparatus at WSM, BTW how do you think Bill compares with Brian Siders?
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siders is getting a lot of attention brent mikesell gave him a ringing endorsment as maybe one of the strongest all time but i think that was a rush.siders is good all around maybe not the upper body strength of bill but who is.he's good with the thomas inch dumbell ten reps i think but it wasn;t the same when bill first lifted off the ground then became the first to press it overhead bill had never practiced with it before he did it.siders is young too he'll end up a great lifter.but there will only ever be one bill kazmaier.the way he was built tremendous size with no fat just ripped with powerlifting muscle,how many guys are that big and built like that.i mean look at vasily alexeev the greatest olympic lifter big gutt a lot of fat but the strongest in his sport ever so maybe you don;t have to be ripped like bill but i can only think that that extra muscle instead of fat made a huge difference in his lifts.same way with glenn ross he's like 400 pounds but a lot of fat but he's strong as hell.one guy on this site had his lifts.david webster in his book sons of samson said bill had muscle in places that people didn;t have places :) though bruce wilhem the first winner of the strongest man says ken patera was the strongest he ever seen in emails i had with him.there is a lot of trash talk between powerlifters and o lifters and whos strongest.right now i think zydrunas zavikas is the world strongest.mariuz has won the wsm three times but zakvikus has won the arnold 4 straight times beating him this year.i think zavickus doesn;t care about the wsm because the arnold pays better and with more gifts.i think bill is the strongest ever without question.he done too many things to say that he isn;t the guy who started this thread listed them.
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i've got to disagree with you about Siders upper body strength, there was a video on irongame of him benching 600 for 5 raw at the Arnold backstage, that would put him about equal with Kaz.
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i seen that too but you have to take into account total upperbody strength overhead pressing with bars and logs,hand strength,bench press,breaking cyr's lateral lifts,running around with an atlas stone on his shoulder,breaking the 56 pound toss record,throwing those kegs into the pickup truck when all the other competitors had to walk each one in and those were strong men he was competing againest geoff capes.also when things were done,todays drugs are much better and stronger.kaz's lifts were done 26 years ago siders is doing that today.you think he would have improved upon kaz's records but he hasn't.to tell you the truth i don;t think we'll see anybody with kaz's upper body strength again.but of all the lifts i seen the one that i seen personally from about 5 feet in a church just blew me away.kaz took a 3/4 inch galvinized steel bolt and bent it into a u with the sides touching.all you seen and heard were three quick grunts and when he opened his hand the thing was bent.
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i seen that too but you have to take into account total upperbody strength overhead pressing with bars and logs,hand strength,bench press,breaking cyr's lateral lifts,running around with an atlas stone on his shoulder,breaking the 56 pound toss record,throwing those kegs into the pickup truck when all the other competitors had to walk each one in and those were strong men he was competing againest geoff capes.
thats something i want to see!!!
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when kaz was throwing the kegs.man that was awesome he was like an animal.they sometimes show it as a clip during one of the new wsm episodes as a flashback.if anybody has ever picked up a keg you know how heavy and unstable they are because of the water.i say 1 180 pound keg feels at least like a 400 pound deadlift.it feels way heavier then 180.
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kaZMAIER WAS GREAT . YES GREAT PHYSIQUE . TOO . he was the main strongman of the 1980,s i would guess . now savickacs is the king . at 60 pounds more .