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Title: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Dos Equis on April 10, 2015, 07:49:19 PM
Who the heck is still buying his book?? 

And he made overseas income?  I ordinarily wouldn't care, but that sure makes him look like a hypocrite. 

Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Friday, 10 Apr 2015

President Barack Obama and his wife Michelle earned a gross income of $477,383 in 2014, according to the couple's tax returns, released by the White House on Friday.

Their income is down from $503,183 in 2013 and $662,076 in 2012.

Obama's annual presidential salary is $400,000 and much of his outside income has been attributed to sales of his biographies, which may be declining.

The Obamas reported $43,722 in income from overseas.

The White House did not immediately respond to questions on the source of the overseas income.

The Obamas paid $93,362 in total tax, paying a federal income tax rate of 19.6 percent.

In donations to charity, the Obamas gave $70,712 to 33 different groups. The largest donation was $22,012 to Fisher House Foundation, which provides housing to military families while a loved one is receiving treatment.

Vice President Joe Biden and his wife Jill, a community college professor, also released their tax returns on Friday, reporting a combined income of $388,844.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-earnings-income-goes/2015/04/10/id/637807/#ixzz3WxtlDUg8
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Straw Man on April 13, 2015, 03:29:49 PM
Who the heck is still buying his book??  

And he made overseas income?  I ordinarily wouldn't care, but that sure makes him look like a hypocrite.  

Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Friday, 10 Apr 2015

President Barack Obama and his wife Michelle earned a gross income of $477,383 in 2014, according to the couple's tax returns, released by the White House on Friday.

Their income is down from $503,183 in 2013 and $662,076 in 2012.

Obama's annual presidential salary is $400,000 and much of his outside income has been attributed to sales of his biographies, which may be declining.

The Obamas reported $43,722 in income from overseas.

The White House did not immediately respond to questions on the source of the overseas income.


The Obamas paid $93,362 in total tax, paying a federal income tax rate of 19.6 percent.

In donations to charity, the Obamas gave $70,712 to 33 different groups. The largest donation was $22,012 to Fisher House Foundation, which provides housing to military families while a loved one is receiving treatment.

Vice President Joe Biden and his wife Jill, a community college professor, also released their tax returns on Friday, reporting a combined income of $388,844.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-earnings-income-goes/2015/04/10/id/637807/#ixzz3WxtlDUg8

why would you think that makes him a hypocrite if he paid taxes on it

has he stated he is against anyone merely making income overseas ?

Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Primemuscle on April 13, 2015, 03:40:38 PM
Who the heck is still buying his book??  

And he made overseas income?  I ordinarily wouldn't care, but that sure makes him look like a hypocrite.  

Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Friday, 10 Apr 2015

President Barack Obama and his wife Michelle earned a gross income of $477,383 in 2014, according to the couple's tax returns, released by the White House on Friday.

Their income is down from $503,183 in 2013 and $662,076 in 2012.

Obama's annual presidential salary is $400,000 and much of his outside income has been attributed to sales of his biographies, which may be declining.

The Obamas reported $43,722 in income from overseas.

The White House did not immediately respond to questions on the source of the overseas income.

The Obamas paid $93,362 in total tax, paying a federal income tax rate of 19.6 percent.

In donations to charity, the Obamas gave $70,712 to 33 different groups. The largest donation was $22,012 to Fisher House Foundation, which provides housing to military families while a loved one is receiving treatment.

Vice President Joe Biden and his wife Jill, a community college professor, also released their tax returns on Friday, reporting a combined income of $388,844.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-earnings-income-goes/2015/04/10/id/637807/#ixzz3WxtlDUg8

I assume you understand what you posted says that it is Obama's income which has gone down over the last three years.
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 13, 2015, 07:50:19 PM
Who the heck is still buying his book?? 

And he made overseas income?  I ordinarily wouldn't care, but that sure makes him look like a hypocrite. 

Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Friday, 10 Apr 2015

President Barack Obama and his wife Michelle earned a gross income of $477,383 in 2014, according to the couple's tax returns, released by the White House on Friday.

Their income is down from $503,183 in 2013 and $662,076 in 2012.

Obama's annual presidential salary is $400,000 and much of his outside income has been attributed to sales of his biographies, which may be declining.

The Obamas reported $43,722 in income from overseas.

The White House did not immediately respond to questions on the source of the overseas income.

The Obamas paid $93,362 in total tax, paying a federal income tax rate of 19.6 percent.

In donations to charity, the Obamas gave $70,712 to 33 different groups. The largest donation was $22,012 to Fisher House Foundation, which provides housing to military families while a loved one is receiving treatment.

Vice President Joe Biden and his wife Jill, a community college professor, also released their tax returns on Friday, reporting a combined income of $388,844.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-earnings-income-goes/2015/04/10/id/637807/#ixzz3WxtlDUg8

Doesn't matter.  Once he's out of office, he'll do like other presidents and do speaking engagements.  He'll have over 100 million dollars in 6 months of leaving office
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: James28 on April 13, 2015, 08:05:25 PM
Doesn't matter.  Once he's out of office, he'll do like other presidents and do speaking engagements.  He'll have over 100 million dollars in 6 months of leaving office

And you'll still be a dirt poor negro on to his next get-rich-quick scheme.
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: 240 is Back on April 13, 2015, 08:28:34 PM
Six months out of office, obama will be broke, divorced, and living off chooms.

33/33/86 Never Forget.
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: avxo on April 13, 2015, 08:31:26 PM
Who the heck is still buying his book??

$43,722, and assuming an average of $5 per book, works out to about 10,000 books worldwide in a year, or about one person out of seven thousand in the entire world. While the figure is certainly not unrealistic for someone like Obama, I find myself asking the same question: who would actually buy his books?

And he made overseas income?  I ordinarily wouldn't care, but that sure makes him look like a hypocrite.

I'm curious to know why you think that.
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Straw Man on April 13, 2015, 08:57:44 PM
$477,000, and assuming an average of $5 per book, works out to about 100,000 books worldwide in a year, or about 0.0014% of people currently living. While the figure is certainly not unrealistic for someone like Obama, I find myself asking the same question: who would actually buy his books?

I'm curious to know why you think that.

The 477k is their AGI which includes his salary as POTUS

Schedule C is the book revenue

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/20150410093348711.pdf

Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: avxo on April 13, 2015, 09:13:23 PM
The 477k is their AGI which includes his salary as POTUS

Schedule C is the book revenue

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/20150410093348711.pdf



Ooops, I meant to do my calculations using the overseas income. Thanks for catching that. I'll update my original post.
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Primemuscle on April 14, 2015, 01:32:50 AM
Six months out of office, obama will be broke, divorced, and living off chooms.

33/33/86 Never Forget.

Time will tell.
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Primemuscle on April 14, 2015, 01:44:07 AM
$400,000 is a paltry sum to earn for the unpopular job of being the U.S. President. Clearly, none of the folk bidding for this position are in it for the money. CEO's of major corporations are paid millions of dollars a year. Heck some school Superintendents make over $200,000. The median income for public-university presidents in the 2007-08 academic year was $427,400.
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Straw Man on April 14, 2015, 08:49:34 AM
Given Bums penchant for bumping his favorite threads over and over again, what are the odds he will show back up in this thread that he started and explain why he believes Obama is a hypocrite for paying taxes on income earned overseas

maybe this is a two part story and Newsmax will tell him today why he is supposed to be mad about this.

Who the heck is still buying his book??  

And he made overseas income?  I ordinarily wouldn't care, but that sure makes him look like a hypocrite.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-earnings-income-goes/2015/04/10/id/637807/#ixzz3WxtlDUg8
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: blacken700 on April 14, 2015, 09:58:57 AM
Given Bums penchant for bumping his favorite threads over and over again, what are the odds he will show back up in this thread that he started and explain why he believes Obama is a hypocrite for paying taxes on income earned overseas

maybe this is a two part story and Newsmax will tell him today why he is supposed to be mad about this.


LOL
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Dos Equis on April 14, 2015, 10:08:20 AM
I assume you understand what you posted says that it is Obama's income which has gone down over the last three years.

Ok?  And?
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Dos Equis on April 14, 2015, 10:09:10 AM
Doesn't matter.  Once he's out of office, he'll do like other presidents and do speaking engagements.  He'll have over 100 million dollars in 6 months of leaving office

Yes it matters. 

And yes he will make bank when he leaves office. 
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Dos Equis on April 14, 2015, 10:09:48 AM
$43,722, and assuming an average of $5 per book, works out to about 10,000 books worldwide in a year, or about one person out of seven thousand in the entire world. While the figure is certainly not unrealistic for someone like Obama, I find myself asking the same question: who would actually buy his books?

I'm curious to know why you think that.

Because his campaign criticized Romney for making overseas income. 
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Dos Equis on April 14, 2015, 10:13:07 AM
$400,000 is a paltry sum to earn for the unpopular job of being the U.S. President. Clearly, none of the folk bidding for this position are in it for the money. CEO's of major corporations are paid millions of dollars a year. Heck some school Superintendents make over $200,000. The median income for public-university presidents in the 2007-08 academic year was $427,400.

Paltry?  Unpopular job?  Dude.  He's in the top 1 percent income wise.  His approval ratings are deservedly low, but he is the most powerful person on earth (next to Oprah). 

He doesn't just earn a good salary that he never has to spend.  He has a chef, driver, pilots, planes, helicopters, secret service, can vacation anywhere in the world, and has the ultimate golden parachute when he leaves office.  Not a bad gig at all.
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Straw Man on April 14, 2015, 10:19:58 AM
Because his campaign criticized Romney for making overseas income. 

not for "making income overseas"

for parking money in overseas tax havens/shelters....i.e. not paying taxes
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Straw Man on April 14, 2015, 10:24:27 AM
Paltry?  Unpopular job?  Dude.  He's in the top 1 percent income wise.  His approval ratings are deservedly low, but he is the most powerful person on earth (next to Oprah). 

He doesn't just earn a good salary that he never has to spend.  He has a chef, driver, pilots, planes, helicopters, secret service, can vacation anywhere in the world, and has the ultimate golden parachute when he leaves office.  Not a bad gig at all.

in the world of wealthy people 400k is lunch money

even compared to the wealthiest people in Congress it's a joke

the rest of your post is just nonsense

he's the POTUS and has all the same perks as every other POTUS

Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: blacken700 on April 14, 2015, 12:06:11 PM
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Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Primemuscle on April 14, 2015, 12:34:43 PM
Paltry?  Unpopular job?  Dude.  He's in the top 1 percent income wise.  His approval ratings are deservedly low, but he is the most powerful person on earth (next to Oprah). 

He doesn't just earn a good salary that he never has to spend.  He has a chef, driver, pilots, planes, helicopters, secret service, can vacation anywhere in the world, and has the ultimate golden parachute when he leaves office.  Not a bad gig at all.

To be in the top 1% in Obama's age group in 2010, he would have had to earn well over $1,000,000.  http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/10/the-top-1-percentand-01-percentof-every-age-group-in-america/382094/
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Dos Equis on April 14, 2015, 01:18:10 PM
To be in the top 1% in Obama's age group in 2010, he would have had to earn well over $1,000,000.  http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/10/the-top-1-percentand-01-percentof-every-age-group-in-america/382094/

I am admittedly math challenged, but I don't think that's what the chart you posted shows. 
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Primemuscle on April 14, 2015, 01:41:52 PM
I am admittedly math challenged, but I don't think that's what the chart you posted shows. 

There are three charts. It is the third chart that shows this information.

"Marketing firms and investment houses classify those with household incomes exceeding $75,000 as mass affluent, while the upper class is most commonly defined as the top 1% with household incomes commonly exceeding $525,000 annually, as of 2013." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affluence_in_the_United_States

It interesting to read that our household income exceeds the starting level for being "mass affluent" by a fair amount. When I do our taxes each year, I am always surprised at how much money we made in the previous year. I sure don't feel that affluent.  ;D
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Option D on April 14, 2015, 01:50:33 PM
not for "making income overseas"

for parking money in overseas tax havens/shelters....i.e. not paying taxes


simply amazing... and extreme telling
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Dos Equis on April 14, 2015, 02:35:14 PM
There are three charts. It is the third chart that shows this information.

"Marketing firms and investment houses classify those with household incomes exceeding $75,000 as mass affluent, while the upper class is most commonly defined as the top 1% with household incomes commonly exceeding $525,000 annually, as of 2013." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affluence_in_the_United_States

It interesting to read that our household income exceeds the starting level for being "mass affluent" by a fair amount. When I do our taxes each year, I am always surprised at how much money we made in the previous year. I sure don't feel that affluent.  ;D

The third chart is .01 percent, not 1 percent. 
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Straw Man on April 14, 2015, 02:54:22 PM

simply amazing... and extreme telling

yep, pretty crazy that someone could not understand the difference between those two things

I'm sure you could explain it to the average 5th grader and they would understand it without a problem
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Option D on April 14, 2015, 06:36:05 PM
yep, pretty crazy that someone could not understand the difference between those two things

I'm sure you could explain it to the average 5th grader and they would understand it without a problem
tell me about it...like... at this point.. youre playing politics with that statement
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Straw Man on April 14, 2015, 06:49:23 PM
tell me about it...like... at this point.. youre playing politics with that statement


we're back to the perennial question about Bum

willful stupidity or true ignorance

Are we supposed to believe he doesn't understand the difference between earning income overseas, reporting it and paying taxes as opposed to trying to hide assets overseas with the intent to avoid paying taxes.

does he really believe those two virtually opposite things are actually the same?
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 14, 2015, 09:05:14 PM
we're back to the perennial question about Bum

willful stupidity or true ignorance

Are we supposed to believe he doesn't understand the difference between earning income overseas, reporting it and paying taxes as opposed to trying to hide assets overseas with the intent to avoid paying taxes.

does he really believe those two virtually opposite things are actually the same?


This is a trick question right?
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Primemuscle on April 14, 2015, 09:08:15 PM
The third chart is .01 percent, not 1 percent. 

You are absolutely right. I need to be more careful about what I post. Chalk one up for you. Obama is in the top 1% according to 2010 statistics. Unfortunately for him, he's falling short of this benchmark today.
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: dario73 on April 15, 2015, 07:07:38 AM
Obama should give back his salary since he hasn't done anything productive since he entered office. That way he will raise the salary of the women in his administration that are getting paid less than their male counterparts.
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Primemuscle on April 15, 2015, 12:09:29 PM
Obama should give back his salary since he hasn't done anything productive since he entered office. That way he will raise the salary of the women in his administration that are getting paid less than their male counterparts.

Whether Obama earned his salary is a matter of opinion. I'm fairly sure he believes he earned it. I doubt he is alone.
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Dos Equis on April 15, 2015, 12:53:49 PM
You are absolutely right. I need to be more careful about what I post. Chalk one up for you. Obama is in the top 1% according to 2010 statistics. Unfortunately for him, he's falling short of this benchmark today.

No worries.  Nobody is keeping a scorecard. 

Obama is likely going to get more than $10 million for his first post-presidency book.  He will earn six figures for every canned speech.  His people have already bought a house for him in Hawaii on one of the nicest spots on earth.  Nothing unfortunate about any of that for him.
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Primemuscle on April 15, 2015, 01:03:16 PM
No worries.  Nobody is keeping a scorecard. 

Obama is likely going to get more than $10 million for his first post-presidency book.  He will earn six figures for every canned speech.  His people have already bought a house for him in Hawaii on one of the nicest spots on earth.  Nothing unfortunate about any of that for him.

Yup, he doing and probably will do what other Presidents have done after leaving office.
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Dos Equis on April 15, 2015, 01:07:25 PM
Yup, he doing and probably will do what other Presidents have done after leaving office.

I'm sure he will. 
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Straw Man on April 15, 2015, 01:08:36 PM
This is a trick question right?

you tell me
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2015, 05:23:39 PM
you tell me

I think the trick is expecting a rational answer.
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Straw Man on April 15, 2015, 07:12:15 PM
I think the trick is expecting a rational answer.

It would be entertaining to hear him try to explain why he thinks that earning income overseas, reporting that income and paying taxes on that income is the same (to him) as hiding assets overseas in order to avoid paying taxes
 
Title: Re: Obama Earned $477,000 in 2014 as Income Continues to Lower
Post by: Primemuscle on April 16, 2015, 12:28:40 AM
It would be entertaining to hear him try to explain why he thinks that earning income overseas, reporting that income and paying taxes on that income is the same (to him) as hiding assets overseas in order to avoid paying taxes
 

I'm guessing he cannot explain this.