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The lesson from it
If we sustain eachother constructively we might get lucky enough to figure out many mysteries of life
Great movie though sketchy but good enough science
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I saw the movie and loved it.
Falcon, what was sketchy about the movie? They consulted with Kip Thorne, a renowned physicist.
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I saw the movie and loved it.
Falcon, what was sketchy about the movie? They consulted with Kip Thorne, a renowned physicist.
The part about magnets was all wrong
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I saw the movie and loved it.
Falcon, what was sketchy about the movie? They consulted with Kip Thorne, a renowned physicist.
if two people watch entire season of bates motel 100 times each, one on earth and one travelling"interstellar" speeds , time dilation incorrrectly states when the interstellar person arrives back to earth, that the earth person will have finished watching bates 100 times
long before the the interstellar travelar.
Think about it
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The part about magnets was all wrong
What about the parts about electricity?
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if two people watch entire season of bates motel 100 times each, one on earth and one travelling"interstellar" speeds , time dilation incorrrectly states when the interstellar person arrives back to earth, that the earth person will have finished watching bates long before the the interstellar travelar.
Think about it
Are you implying that Kip Thorne is wrong, Falcon?
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Best space movie since 2001 ASO.
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Loved it.
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Awesome movie, watched it again just recently.
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For anyone that hasn't watched it, it is slow to get going but once it does it's well worth the wait.
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Are you implying that Kip Thorne is wrong, Falcon?
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In other words
Time Dilation implies you do things faster or slower depending on how fast you are going. Which is wrong if it takes 100 hours to watch bates motel season on earth , this 100 hours is unchangeable no matter where you are or how fast you go
Physicists would have you beleive gravity effects time, which is wrong
Nothing can effect time. Nothing so far can make you gather the knowledge of 100 hours of bates motel in 50 hours. The only way to maybe do this is add to our info storing capabilites. Much like how dna stores info in a helix rather than a strait line...but going fast or high gravity does not increase our information gathering rate capabilities
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Falcon is on to something here.
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Funny how he gave 2 shits about his son
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In other words
Time Dilation implies you do things faster or slower depending on how fast you are going. Which is wrong if it takes 100 hours to watch bates motel season on earth , this 100 hours is unchangeable no matter where you are or how fast you go
Physicists would have you beleive gravity effects time, which is wrong
Nothing can effect time. Nothing so far can make you gather the knowledge of 100 hours of bates motel in 50 hours. The only way to maybe do this is add to our info storing capabilites. Much like how dna stores info in a helix rather than a strait line...but going fast or high gravity does not increase our information gathering rate capabilities
Read this, my knowledge craving friend.
http://www.physics.org/article-questions.asp?id=77
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Read this, my knowledge craving friend.
http://www.physics.org/article-questions.asp?id=77
Sorry Marty but it has actually been observed. It's the real deal.
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I can never understand anything that mumbling goddamn Arkie is saying. It's like he decided that being incomprehensible is gonna git tha odd-yence ta lis'n reeeeeeeeeeeal cloz. Fucking Glaswegians are easier to decipher, MacGonagie!
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Sorry Marty but it has actually been observed. It's the real deal.
false you beleive what they tell u to, think about my example
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Falcon, instead of Kip Thorne, they should have consulted with you on the movie.
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Read this, my knowledge craving friend.
http://www.physics.org/article-questions.asp?id=77
nanoseconds is far cry from any proof something like 100000000 nanoseconds in one second
They can always have the sheep beleive its real they know people just accept bs
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Falcon, instead of Kip Thorne, they should have consulted with you on the movie.
how can a person watch a 10 hour movie in a rocket but arrive back on earth in 3 hours
Apparently this is possible if you go fast in a rocket.
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Sheeple eat up this bullshit because this world isfull of people to fake you out these days because earth needs a nemesis
Weird i know but so true and with good reason goes deeper than obvious reasons
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nanoseconds is far cry from any proof something like 100000000 nanoseconds in one second
They can always have the sheep beleive its real they know people just accept bs
You're talking about time, a concept conceived and taught by "they," yet you're not a sheep as well? You seem pretty comfortable accepting some things they tell you, at least.
How did you learn about electricity, was it all simply intuitive?
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Einstein's theory of relativity disproved by the temporal immutability of television programming. Take that!
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You're talking about time, a concept conceived and taught by "they," yet you're not a sheep as well? You seem pretty comfortable accepting some things they tell you, at least.
How did you learn about electricity, was it all simply intuitve?
read previous post nothing is all wrong or all right , ask me a difficult question
Time is a number scale to measure change or no change
I think time dilation could be possible but not by going fast in a rocket
Its certainly not logically possible by going fast
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Einstein's theory of relativity disproved by the temporal immutability of television programming. Take that!
Actually no, relativity calculations are crucial to the functioning of GPS.
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read previous post nothing is all wrong or all right , ask me a difficult question
Ok. Any idea where and why it all went south?
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Actually no, relativity calculations are crucial to the functioning of GPS.
Actually:
I believe him , I felt the same way through my training life. I never took pictures because I was always hard on my self thinking I could do way better. I wish I had a picture of myself at 24 when I was ripped. I have so few pictures of my self when I was in my early 40's looking good. I was just so critical and hard on my self thinking wait till you really get it together. Now closing in on 60 I will never regain what I had and I wish at least I had some pictures. I have two pictures of me in decent shape with my shirt off for my whole life of training.
I see steroid junkies load up on pictures on cycle and they show people the pictures when they are off cycle looking like crap. One fat smooth guy was showing me a picture of him self all buffed out and I told him I don't need the picture you're right in front of me. He put his treasured picture back in his wallet and quickly changed topics.
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Actually no, relativity calculations are crucial to the functioning of GPS.
none of you operate gps satellights yet you argue like you know lol
you arent even thinking the satellight has a mapping of earth by beaming waves mapping mountains ect it isnt struggiling with calculations its taking pictures lol
Try n argue just a lil bit with all the bs you beleive
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Ok. Any idea where and why it all went south?
cells in competition for dominance. More dominance more resources very primal
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none of you operate gps satellights yet you argue like you know lol
you arent even thinking the satellight has a mapping of earth by beaming waves mapping mountains ect it isnt struggiling with calculations its taking pictures lol
Try n argue just a lil bit with all the bs you beleive
You can almost smell the meth in these posts...
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You can almost smell the meth in these posts...
a satellite takes pictures and map out the fuc planet
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rearead post
In other words
Time Dilation implies you do things faster or slower depending on how fast you are going. Which is wrong if it takes 100 hours to watch bates motel season on earth , this 100 hours is unchangeable no matter where you are or how fast you go
Physicists would have you beleive gravity effects time, which is wrong
Nothing can effect time. Nothing so far can make you gather the knowledge of 100 hours of bates motel in 50 hours. The only way to maybe do this is add to our info storing capabilites. Much like how dna stores info in a helix rather than a strait line...but going fast or high gravity does not increase our information gathering rate capabilities
I think your interjecting something that was not said. The original post only said each person watched the Bates Motel 100 times, not 100 hours. It does not address how long the interstellar traveler was in space verses how long it took the person on earth to watch it 100 times. Frankly, the statement is irrelevant because it is speaking to number of times watched and not time to watch.
It is the same as saying if Johnny watched The Bates Motel 100 times and Jimmy who lives across the street also watches it 100 times, Johnny will finish watching it before Jimmy will. This is of course true if Johnny watched it back to back a 100 times and Jimmy watched a season each day for a 100 days
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Scientifically the entire movie was utter bullshit - plus the movie was pretty bad too.
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I think your interjecting something that was not said. The original post only said each person watched the Bates Motel 100 times, not 100 hours. It does not address how long the interstellar traveler was in space verses how long it took the person on earth to watch it 100 times. Frankly, the statement is irrelevant because it is speaking to number of times watched and not time to watch.
It is the same as saying if Johnny watched The Bates Motel 100 times and Jimmy who lives across the street also watches it 100 times, Johnny will finish watching it before Jimmy will. This is of course true if Johnny watched it back to back a 100 times and Jimmy watched an episode each day for a 100 days
i said 100hours
The oither post was an entirely different ex
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Scientifically the entire movie was utter bullshit - plus the movie was pretty bad too.
This type of movie is called science fiction for a reason. It doesn't have to be factual, just entertaining. It helps of course to have enough real science in a science fiction movie to make it at least seem possible.
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This type of movie is called science fiction for a reason. It doesn't have to be factual, just entertaining. It helps of course to have enough real science in a science fiction movie to make it at least seem possible.
this was a good thread until you derailed it
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It doesn't have to be factual, just entertaining.
It was off so much that it was ridiculous and annoying, not entertaining. Sure gravity can make you age faster but had they gone to an actual planet that aged them that quickly, they would've been crushed into a flat pancake in a microsecond.
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It was off so much that it was ridiculous and annoying, not entertaining. Sure gravity can make you age faster but had they gone to an actual planet that aged them that quickly, they would've been crushed into a flat pancake in a microsecond.
gravity doesnt make time go faster or slower compared to someone on earth
Gravity is the sum of many forces
But time is many many many many man-why forces
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It was off so much that it was ridiculous and annoying, not entertaining. Sure gravity can make you age faster but had they gone to an actual planet that aged them that quickly, they would've been crushed into a flat pancake in a microsecond.
Neal Degrasse Tyson said the movie pretty much got it all right.
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i said 100hours
The oither post was an entirely different ex
Actually you said both each in different posts. You don't get to have it both ways. One is simply not the same as the other.
if two people watch entire season of bates motel 100 times each, one on earth and one travelling"interstellar" speeds , time dilation incorrrectly states when the interstellar person arrives back to earth, that the earth person will have finished watching bates 100 times
long before the the interstellar travelar.
Think about it
rearead post
In other words
Time Dilation implies you do things faster or slower depending on how fast you are going. Which is wrong if it takes 100 hours to watch bates motel season on earth , this 100 hours is unchangeable no matter where you are or how fast you go
Physicists would have you beleive gravity effects time, which is wrong
Nothing can effect time. Nothing so far can make you gather the knowledge of 100 hours of bates motel in 50 hours. The only way to maybe do this is add to our info storing capabilites. Much like how dna stores info in a helix rather than a strait line...but going fast or high gravity does not increase our information gathering rate capabilities
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Neal Degrasse Tyson said the movie pretty much got it all right.
haha sf your quoting this guy that guy and the other guy, well done guess that makes you the authority on this matter? Typical sheep
I bet even you are smart enough to logically dismember the crap that you are forced to beleive
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I'm shocked, shocked I say- at the lack of bodybuilding related stuff in this thread. I'll remedy this nonsense.
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read previous post nothing is all wrong or all right , ask me a difficult question
Time is a number scale to measure change or no change
I think time dilation could be possible but not by going fast in a rocket
Its certainly not logically possible by going fast
Maybe this have the right answer(if you're lazy to watch whole clip, it starts at 6.45):
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Actually you said both each in different posts. You don't get to have it both ways. One is simply not the same as the other.
i gave two examples, two different posts
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Time dilation:
Maybe this have the right answer:
sheep videos nice people nice vid leading you into the slaughter
Dont even dare challeng the status quo
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It was off so much that it was ridiculous and annoying, not entertaining. Sure gravity can make you age faster but had they gone to an actual planet that aged them that quickly, they would've been crushed into a flat pancake in a microsecond.
Where in the movie did they imply gravity made them age faster?
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sheep videos nice people nice vid leading you into the slaughter
Dont even dare challeng the status quo
I suspect you haven't watch the whole clip?? experiment start at 6.45..
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i gave two examples, two different posts
Two conflicting examples in separate posts. That's what you gave. You're talking out of both sides of you mouth.
You said nothing is all this or all that and while that's true, in this case it seems to be a bit of a copout on your part. At some point you end up seeming muddled and confused. Take one position and explore that completely rather then argue two topics/positions at once.
To some, it appears you rewrote your original post because it simply doesn't support what you were hoping to say. If no one had a memory and you'd deleted the first post, your shenanigan might have succeeded.
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Where in the movie did they imply gravity made them age faster?
Did you watch the movie? They went to a planet and they had to make the visit really quick because every hour they spent there was the same as 10 years on earth - or something stupid like that. That's why the main character's daughter was an old lady when he got back.
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Did you watch the movie? They went to a planet and they had to make the visit really quick because every hour they spent there was the same as 10 years on earth - or something stupid like that. That's why the main character's daughter was an old lady when he got back.
lol it's called "the theory of relativity"
Vid explanation starts at 6.45:
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Two conflicting examples in separate posts. That's what you gave. You're talking out of both sides of you mouth.
You said nothing is all this or all that and while that's true, in this case it seems to be a bit of a copout on your part. At some point you end up seeming muddled and confused. Take one position and explore that completely rather then argue two topics/positions at once.
To some, it appears you rewrote your original post because it simply doesn't support what you were hoping to say. If no one had a memory and you'd deleted the first post, your shenanigan might have succeeded.
no one here failed to disprove or even attemt either one of my examples
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Don't get me wrong, Marty. I admire your curiosity about how things work and the fact that you are willing to put yourself out on a limb it invite a discussion. But you need clearer thinking if you are hoping to convince anyone of you theories and ideas. Often you just come off like your stoned. I doubt that's the impression you intend to make....but, I could be wrong.
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lol it's called "the theory of relativity"
Vid explanation starts at 6.45:
just because you go fast in a rocket doesnt mean earth people age faster than you
That is the whole bs foundation of relativity and interstellar
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no one here failed to disprove or even attemt either one of my examples
That's quite possibly because they make no sense to anyone here.
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Don't get me wrong, Marty. I admire your curiosity about how things work and the fact that you are willing to put yourself out on a limb it invite a discussion. But you need clearer thinking if you are hoping to convince anyone of you theories and ideas. Often you just come off like your stoned. I doubt that's the impression you intend to make....but, I could be wrong.
so going fast in a rocket or car or bike makes you magically age slower than someone still?
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That's quite possibly because they make no sense to anyone here.
that is what time dilation means, it says if you go fast you age slower than someone who is still
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just because you go fast in a rocket doesnt mean earth people age faster than you
That is the whole bs foundation of relativity and interstellar
The Theory of relativity is based on an equation. I asked my professor about this some time ago 'time dilation'.. he said until you can come up with a better equation.. most will stick with Einstein's equation
It's explained in the video too, that time may feel the same for you and me, but while on a speeding rocket it changes.
However yes in a philosophical way yes time is the same where ever you are.
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Is this what you're talking about?
Clocks on the Space Shuttle ran slightly slower than reference clocks on Earth, while clocks on GPS and Galileo satellites run slightly faster. Such time dilation has been repeatedly demonstrated, for instance by small disparities in atomic clocks on Earth and in space, even though both clocks work perfectly (it is not a mechanical malfunction). The laws of nature are such that time itself (i.e. spacetime) will bend due to differences in either gravity or velocity – each of which affects time in different ways
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Don't get me wrong, Marty. I admire your curiosity about how things work and the fact that you are willing to put yourself out on a limb it invite a discussion. But you need clearer thinking if you are hoping to convince anyone of you theories and ideas. Often you just come off like your stoned. I doubt that's the impression you intend to make....but, I could be wrong.
Who you shitting Prime, you admire Marty's 10 inch meat rocket...
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Who you shitting Prime, you admire Marty's 10 inch meat rocket...
Whatever your fantasy, feel free to express it. -Makes no nevermind to me.
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lol it's called "the theory of relativity"
do you understand that if the gravitation was so great, they would've gotten get crushed in a microsecond? Just like time goes slower as you go faster - but you have to go near speed of light to see any difference. Astronauts that have spent a year or two in space circling earth at very high speed (by earth standards) have gained a second or two of extra time.
Comprende?
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do you understand that if the gravitation was so great, they would've gotten get crushed in a microsecond? Just like time goes slower as you go faster - but you have to go near speed of light to see any difference. Astronauts that have spent a year or two in space circling earth at very high speed (by earth standards) have gained a second or two of extra time.
Comprende?
how can you go in a rocket and watch a ten hour movie in the fast rocket but be back on earth in 3hrs??
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do you understand that if the gravitation was so great, they would've gotten get crushed in a microsecond? Just like time goes slower as you go faster - but you have to go near speed of light to see any difference. Astronauts that have spent a year or two in space circling earth at very high speed (by earth standards) have gained a second or two of extra time.
Comprende?
thank you captain Obvious..
But that part was science fiction that if you enter a black hole, most scientist/physicist will agree that you'll get stretched like a spaghetti(1.0 heaths wide).
capisce??
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how can you go in a rocket and watch a ten hour movie in the fast rocket but be back on earth in 3hrs??
you just einstein it
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do you understand that if the gravitation was so great, they would've gotten get crushed in a microsecond? Just like time goes slower as you go faster - but you have to go near speed of light to see any difference. Astronauts that have spent a year or two in space circling earth at very high speed (by earth standards) have gained a second or two of extra time.
Comprende?
Its called a MOVIE!!! Surely, not everything can be 100% factual, as the main point of a movie is to ENTERTAIN!!
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It was off so much that it was ridiculous and annoying, not entertaining. Sure gravity can make you age faster but had they gone to an actual planet that aged them that quickly, they would've been crushed into a flat pancake in a microsecond.
The planet was in the "event horizon" in a stable orbit. Such a place could exist, where the gravity tidal forces cause time dilation at logarithmic distance scale.
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rearead post
In other words
Time Dilation implies you do things faster or slower depending on how fast you are going. Which is wrong if it takes 100 hours to watch bates motel season on earth , this 100 hours is unchangeable no matter where you are or how fast you go
Physicists would have you beleive gravity effects time, which is wrong
Nothing can effect time. Nothing so far can make you gather the knowledge of 100 hours of bates motel in 50 hours. The only way to maybe do this is add to our info storing capabilites. Much like how dna stores info in a helix rather than a strait line...but going fast or high gravity does not increase our information gathering rate capabilities
No it doesn't.
It is only in reference to other people (hence "relativity"). Each person watches the movie in the same length of time in their reference frame.
It has to do with constraints on the speed of light...But even then, it's only a special case for inertial reference frames.
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Did you watch the movie? They went to a planet and they had to make the visit really quick because every hour they spent there was the same as 10 years on earth - or something stupid like that. That's why the main character's daughter was an old lady when he got back.
I did watch the movie.
I had assumed their traveling through the wormhole for what felt like X years to them, actually equated to XX years back on earth.
I was far more interested in figuring out a way to end up on a planet alone with Anne Hathaway than worrying about a guy floating through a black hole in a space suit.
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just because you go fast in a rocket doesnt mean earth people age faster than you
That is the whole bs foundation of relativity and interstellar
It's verified by experiment.
Atomic clocks on airplanes show less time elapsed than atomic clocks left on the ground.
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The planet was in the "event horizon" in a stable orbit. Such a place could exist, where the gravity tidal forces cause time dilation at logarithmic distance scale.
But magically as long as you don't land on the planet and stay few miles away, time doesn't go any faster? Makes lots of sense.
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No it doesn't.
It is only in reference to other people (hence "relativity"). Each person watches the movie in the same length of time in their reference frame.
It has to do with constraints on the speed of light...But even then, it's only a special case for inertial reference frames.
time dilation says you can go in a rocket and watch a 10 hour movie in the rocket and be back on earth in 3 earth hours
Total bullshit! time dilation disproved
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time dilation says you can go in a rocket and watch a 10 hour movie in the rocket and be back on earth in 3 earth hours
Total bullshit! time dilation disproved
You're missing the bigger point here.
A ten-hour film, whether viewed on earth or aboard the Starship Enterprise, is not so much an opportunity to examine time dilation; instead, it is a window into the soul of a self-important director, who believes his shit is so brilliant it couldn't possibly be edited down to a more consumable 120-50 minutes.
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But magically as long as you don't land on the planet and stay few miles away, time doesn't go any faster? Makes lots of sense.
The time dilation effect is a logarithmic function of distance from the gravity source: the black hole. If the ship stayed on the far side of the planet, the time dilation effects of the gravity well would have been less for the ship than on the planet's surface. Yes. It mathematically works.
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time dilation says you can go in a rocket and watch a 10 hour movie in the rocket and be back on earth in 3 earth hours
Total bullshit! time dilation disproved
Good point.
Step 1: publish your findings
Step 2: win Nobel prize
Step 3: profit!
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Good point.
Step 1: publish your findings
Step 2: win Nobel prize
Step 3: profit!
Published findings are overrated, sir. Bodybuilding messageboards are where the truly groundbreaking discoveries are shared.
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The time dilation effect is a logarithmic function of distance from the gravity source: the black hole. If the ship stayed on the far side of the planet, the time dilation effects of the gravity well would have been less for the ship than on the planet's surface. Yes. It mathematically works.
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The black hole would suck the planet in if it was anywhere near to make any difference. If it doesn't destroy the planet, it'd have to be far and then few miles here and there would make zero difference. Pretty sad you're still trying to convince yourself bullshit like that is possible.
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I just watched it. It was very good.
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I just watched it. It was very good.
I thought it was kind of dumb first time I watched.
Second time I enjoyed it quite a bit more though.
These are my feelings at this time.
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I just watched it. It was very good.
Paging SF with the "Titanic" poster.
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Paging SF with the "Titanic" poster.
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(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--N82S3xhh--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/17x3gjxve4tisjpg.jpg)
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Paging SF with the "Titanic" poster.
HaHa but at least I didn't start a new thread :)
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The part about magnets was all wrong
And we can't live inside a computer like in the matrix, what is your point? ::)
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GREAT movie but this one part nearly ruined it for me
Matt M : " hey daughter I'm back"
Daughter : "I'm old and about to die, but I have my kids here now so you can fuck off"
Matt M : "ok"
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GREAT movie but this one part nearly ruined it for me
Matt M : " hey daughter I'm back"
Daughter : "I'm old and about to die, but I have my kids here now so you can fuck off"
Matt M : "ok"
Hahaha I enjoyed the film, but that's an amusing summary of that scene.