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Title: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: SF1900 on July 09, 2015, 10:27:32 PM
Doug Miller, All Natural Pro Bodybuilder

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Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: jude2 on July 09, 2015, 10:28:51 PM
Not this again ::)
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: SF1900 on July 09, 2015, 10:31:13 PM
Not this again ::)

That video was just put out a few months ago. Apparently, hes coming out with a new workout video. Wanted people to know.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: calfzilla on July 09, 2015, 10:32:24 PM
As natural as two men fucking.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: kyomu on July 09, 2015, 11:24:19 PM
As natural as two men fucking.
Natural or not, this guy has more impressive physique than most of those of NPC nationals and USA and some pros.
Arms look really good.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Bevo on July 09, 2015, 11:27:04 PM
Stupid liar hope he chokes eating a chicken breast
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Automation on July 10, 2015, 12:36:04 AM
Lying sack of shit. AKA: Pro Bodybuilder.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Hava on July 10, 2015, 12:54:41 AM
 ;D another idiot claiming to be natural and shooting tons of propionate in his Body. Respect for the look but please stop claiming to natural.
Nobody believes this crap this days.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Bevo on July 10, 2015, 01:46:04 AM
Gonzo nose that posts on here said he knows Doug and sticks up for him being natural ::)
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Simple Simon on July 10, 2015, 01:55:43 AM
Gonzo nose that posts on here said he knows Doug and sticks up for him being natural ::)
Joon doesnt post anymore
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Automation on July 10, 2015, 03:14:03 AM
Joon doesnt post anymore

....and he is a lying mental case who is high on drugs 24/7
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: BigCyp on July 10, 2015, 03:20:45 AM
Joon doesnt post anymore

You sure... :-*
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: SuperTed on July 10, 2015, 03:24:31 AM
Is it just me or does anyone else think his arms don't look good?

Sure, they're big and lean - but the shape and insertions just look bad imo.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: WOOO on July 10, 2015, 03:26:29 AM
Test is natural.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 10, 2015, 03:28:45 AM
Esp his biceps look natural
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: BigCyp on July 10, 2015, 03:29:07 AM
Is it just me or does anyone else think his arms don't look good?

Sure, they're big and lean - but the shape and insertions just look bad imo.

His arms remind me of Big Ach's. Plenty of muscle though.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: SuperTed on July 10, 2015, 03:36:03 AM
His arms remind me of Big Ach's. Plenty of muscle though.

Yeah, he's got tons of muscle but the genetic shape is pretty ugly.

I've forgotton what Ach looks like lean since he's been perma bulking for years now.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: _aj_ on July 10, 2015, 03:53:56 AM
Gives hope to us natties everywhere that if we just eat well, train smart and believe in Jesus, we too can have shredded 20" arms with a fucking ridiculous 6" vertical bicep peak.

Thank you Doug for giving me hope that my beanpole arms will someday look like yours.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: BigCyp on July 10, 2015, 04:08:17 AM
Yeah, he's got tons of muscle but the genetic shape is pretty ugly.

I've forgotton what Ach looks like lean since he's been perma bulking for years now.

Haha true true. I remember his last 'dieting thread' where he asked us to critique his cutting plan, which included 3 separate visits to Subway per day ffs  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: _aj_ on July 10, 2015, 04:22:41 AM
Haha true true. I remember his last 'dieting thread' where he asked us to critique his cutting plan, which included 3 separate visits to Subway per day ffs  ;D ;D ;D

Haha lmao.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: milone79 on July 10, 2015, 05:06:11 AM
this P.O.S. is the biggest lying sack of shit in the "natural bodybuilding" world....how is it that this fuck face has so many gullible idiots fooled?? Even other natty pros will defend this puke and his natural claims.....why does he look so different than every other top natural bodybuilder in the game?? genetics?? hard work?? bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Doug just kill yourself you little turd!
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: heenok on July 10, 2015, 05:19:28 AM
Dudes conditionning better than most top pros...
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Ronnie Rep on July 10, 2015, 05:20:56 AM
Natural or not, this guy has more impressive physique than most of those of NPC nationals and USA and some pros.
Arms look really good.
This.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: BigCyp on July 10, 2015, 05:24:12 AM
Dudes conditionning better than most top pros...

Nailing your conditioning is easier if you are only using enough of, and the right compounds to look 'natural'  ::)

If he had to compete against non-natural competition in his weight class, there would be a lot more room for error with mountains of GH and Slin in the mix.

All this guy has to do is take enough 'dry' compounds and test to get more ripped than the other 'naturals' oh brother.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Parker on July 10, 2015, 05:27:27 AM
Is it just me or does anyone else think his arms don't look good?

Sure, they're big and lean - but the shape and insertions just look bad imo.
When he poses his arms, his triceps disappear. But, when he is training his triceps, from the side they look full. Very odd.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: The Grim Lifter on July 10, 2015, 05:29:05 AM
I don't know what's with all the haters. Great natural athlete on display. Can't see any reason he would lie about it.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Dokey111 on July 10, 2015, 05:29:58 AM
natural as skip lacour
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Yamcha on July 10, 2015, 05:33:39 AM
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Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: drmarkp on July 10, 2015, 05:34:55 AM
Stupid liar hope he chokes eating a chicken breast

One more reason why I went from being a staunch natural to enhanced once again.. At least if I compete in the NPC I know that it is an even playing field because everyone has the same opportunity to take whatever they want .. In 'natural' shows, you never know what you are dealing with..
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: heenok on July 10, 2015, 05:36:21 AM
Nailing your conditioning is easier if you are only using enough of, and the right compounds to look 'natural'  ::)

If he had to compete against non-natural competition in his weight class, there would be a lot more room for error with mountains of GH and Slin in the mix.

All this guy has to do is take enough 'dry' compounds and test to get more ripped than the other 'naturals' oh brother.

I guess him having to go off drugs (the basic ones they test i guess) probably helps him to get that insane dry look.
I have yet to see any Olympians looking that dry. Sure they are huge but that guy makes them look fat.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Hulkotron on July 10, 2015, 05:37:19 AM
One of the best natural physique-athletes in "the game".
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: forillagorilla on July 10, 2015, 06:16:43 AM
Nailing your conditioning is easier if you are only using enough of, and the right compounds to look 'natural'  ::)

If he had to compete against non-natural competition in his weight class, there would be a lot more room for error with mountains of GH and Slin in the mix.

All this guy has to do is take enough 'dry' compounds and test to get more ripped than the other 'naturals' oh brother.

This guys look has to do with his generic ability to get lean. I can guarantee you that you can win your state show literally inside out shredded using only test - DECA (early in prep) - and anadrol..  Any too level will tell you that a couple of myths are that you need "cutting drugs" and diuretics to get peeled and bone dry. MAX diuretic needed is maybe 1/2 Dyazide night before.. Lasix and loop diuretics can absolutely ruin and entire prep
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: SuperTed on July 10, 2015, 06:24:42 AM
This guys look has to do with his generic ability to get lean. I can guarantee you that you can win your state show literally inside out shredded using only test - DECA (early in prep) - and anadrol..  Any too level will tell you that a couple of myths are that you need "cutting drugs" and diuretics to get peeled and bone dry. MAX diuretic needed is maybe 1/2 Dyazide night before.. Lasix and loop diuretics can absolutely ruin and entire prep

This.

His conditioning is more down to his genetics than any dietry or drug secrets - same with someone like Dorian.
On the other hand, there are guys who just won't be able to get near that kind of dryness no matter what they do.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: BigCyp on July 10, 2015, 06:26:09 AM
This guys look has to do with his generic ability to get lean. I can guarantee you that you can win your state show literally inside out shredded using only test - DECA (early in prep) - and anadrol..  Any too level will tell you that a couple of myths are that you need "cutting drugs" and diuretics to get peeled and bone dry. MAX diuretic needed is maybe 1/2 Dyazide night before.. Lasix and loop diuretics can absolutely ruin and entire prep

When I was in Amsterdam last week, I realised I had the genetic ability to get very lean on only one compound.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: SF1900 on July 10, 2015, 07:22:57 AM
Doug takes the 30 minute anabolic window extremely serious.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: SF1900 on July 10, 2015, 07:25:09 AM
Gonzo nose that posts on here said he knows Doug and sticks up for him being natural ::)

Yes, Big ACH is a total fool. He says he is friends with Doug and believes that he is 100% natural lol. He states that Doug is crazy about his diet and training, which is why he looks that way.  :D
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Army of One on July 10, 2015, 07:26:46 AM
When I was in Amsterdam last week, I realised I had the genetic ability to get very lean on only one compound.

I remember the days when the original poster behind the bigcyp account was on, and was actually funny.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: BigCyp on July 10, 2015, 07:29:15 AM
I remember the days when the original poster behind the bigcyp account was on, and was actually funny.

I remember the days when

No, you've always been shit.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Army of One on July 10, 2015, 07:32:02 AM
I remember the days when

No, you've always been shit.

Case in point, the original Bigcyp would have come back with a clever quip, a play on language with well chosen adjectives with thought out humour that made you think, the stuff you are posting is an embarrassment to the original.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: BigCyp on July 10, 2015, 07:35:39 AM
Case in point, the original Bigcyp would have come back with a clever quip, a play on language with well chosen adjectives with thought out humour that made you think, the stuff you are posting is an embarrassment to the original.

Read my last 50 posts.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Army of One on July 10, 2015, 07:38:42 AM
Read my last 50 posts.

I did, and they fucking suck, the real cyp who sold you the account must be cringing hard while he counts his money.I didn't realise how stupid people here were until they couldn't tell straight away it was Uncle big nose behind it now.

Joon doesnt post anymore

You sure... :-*
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: BigCyp on July 10, 2015, 07:45:10 AM
I did, and they fucking suck, the real cyp who sold you the account must be cringing hard while he counts his money.I didn't realise how stupid people here were until they couldn't tell straight away it was Uncle big nose behind it now.


Earth shattering evidence.

Case in point - it was a funny reply to Mike, as I have been accused of being Joon.

Is there any way to compare posting behaviours, i.e. usual timeframe of postings etc.

I think you will find that the real BigCyp (me) only uses getbig during the working day (British time) and literally never at weekends. It has been that way since 2003. Surely if Joon (who is a massive drug addict/mentally unstable/lives in a fucking loft ffs) had the account he would be posting at least in the evenings/night time.

Literally NONE of my posts are past 6pm UK (because the real BigCyp commutes to work).
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Tarantula157 on July 10, 2015, 11:07:05 AM
Even other natty pros will defend this puke and his natural claims...
Well,most of the so called "natural" pros are just as natural as him.If they start accusing him of being on drugs but passing the tests the only thing they'll prove is that the drug tests are weak and can't catch the cheaters.That will make their own natural status more questionable in people's eyes.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Tarantula157 on July 10, 2015, 11:09:07 AM
One more reason why I went from being a staunch natural to enhanced once again.. At least if I compete in the NPC I know that it is an even playing field because everyone has the same opportunity to take whatever they want .. In 'natural' shows, you never know what you are dealing with..
True.Guys like him,O'Hearn etc. ruin the whole idea of natural bodybuilding.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: SF1900 on July 10, 2015, 11:35:39 AM
We should all aspire to be like Doug.

His training split:


    Day 1: Chest/delts/traps/lats/abs
    Day 2: Quads/hams/calves
    Day 3: Arms/traps/delts/abs
    Day 4: Cardio or off
    Day 5: Back thickness/traps/rear delts/abs
    Day 6: Chest/delts/calves
    Day 7: Cardio or off
    Day 8: Hams/quads/abs
    Day 9: Back/chest/traps
    Day 10: Arms/calves/abs
    Day 11: Cardio or off


Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 10, 2015, 11:42:00 AM
He needs to train his traps more often
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: _aj_ on July 10, 2015, 12:09:51 PM
We should all aspire to be like Doug.

His training split:


    Day 1: Chest/delts/traps/lats/abs
    Day 2: Quads/hams/calves
    Day 3: Arms/traps/delts/abs
    Day 4: Cardio or off
    Day 5: Back thickness/traps/rear delts/abs
    Day 6: Chest/delts/calves
    Day 7: Cardio or off
    Day 8: Hams/quads/abs
    Day 9: Back/chest/traps
    Day 10: Arms/calves/abs
    Day 11: Cardio or off


I am guessing that Doug doesn't have a job, other than to be natty.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Dave D on July 10, 2015, 12:16:13 PM
It's obvious  most of you have poor genetics and don't train.

I see high school kids at my community center training for soccer that are bigger and in better condition than Doug has ever displayed. His arms are barely 20 inches for goodness sake. If you need juice for that you don't even  have a chance in this sport.


Big Ach made it clear Doug is drug free and FANATICAL  about his diet. It's obvious  some of you should read Marty Champions diet advice to Chaos, because that's all Doug has done in this photos.

Plus no wigs. Doug Miller hair > Mike OHearn  wig
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Wiggs on July 10, 2015, 12:23:15 PM
Drug Miller
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: _aj_ on July 10, 2015, 12:24:37 PM
He needs to train his traps more often

A lagging body part

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Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Army of One on July 10, 2015, 12:25:33 PM
It's obvious  most of you have poor genetics and don't train.

I see high school kids at my community center training for soccer that are bigger and in better condition than Doug has ever displayed. His arms are barely 20 inches for goodness sake. If you need juice for that you don't even  have a chance in this sport.


Big Ach made it clear Doug is drug free and FANATICAL  about his diet. It's obvious  some of you should read Marty Champions diet advice to Chaos, because that's all Doug has done in this photos.

Plus no wigs. Doug Miller hair > Mike OHearn  wig


Probably the most stupid post ive read on the board
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Dave D on July 10, 2015, 12:27:57 PM
Probably the most stupid post ive read on the board

 That  is an incredible  honor, thank you. I will cherish this title.

Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: SF1900 on July 10, 2015, 12:31:45 PM
I really dont care if he is natural or not. But whats I dont get is how he lies to himself every day :(
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: affeman on July 10, 2015, 12:36:54 PM
Guy Looks great, not sure if natty though.

On the other Hand, why would he lie? There are so many natty-claimers out there meanwhile, it doesn't even make you any special or Standing out anymore...
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 10, 2015, 12:37:22 PM
The termes "naturel" and "pro" do not mix.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: _aj_ on July 10, 2015, 12:40:18 PM
It would be hilarious if his wife pins him at night while he's sleeping. Slips orals into his food, liquid diuretics into his intra-workout Plazma.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: SF1900 on July 10, 2015, 12:41:39 PM
I am guessing that Doug doesn't have a job, other than to be natty.

Most likely correct. Doug's job is to stay natty!
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Dave D on July 10, 2015, 12:52:54 PM
I really dont care if he is natural or not. But whats I dont get is how he lies to himself every day :(

For these guys it has to be like an actor preparing  for a role. I'm not sure where he fits in the grand scheme of the bodybuilding  industry but I imagine he's much better off claiming  he's drug free and looking elite instead of being just another juiced up dude at the gym.

I remember  there was a thread on the wrestler John Cena some time back where everyone  was questioning if he was natural, until someone  pointed out that he moved to Venice Beach to get into the bodybuilding scene,  he literally  moved a crossed the country to chase a dream but using testosterone was where he was going to draw the line in his pursuit.....
He makes more money with the wholesome image, I imagine the same is true for Doug.

Let's not forgot he has his friend Big Ach convinced he's drug free, Big Ach a lifetime bodybuilding  enthusiast who has a phd.
 If Doug can persuade a well educated man, who is well versed in the cultures lifestyle he is ped  free, think of how easy it must be for him to convince himself he is as well.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: mazrim on July 10, 2015, 01:43:50 PM
Probably the most stupid post ive read on the board
Are you serious? DaveD is right. Average high school physique on this guy. Nothing special.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: falco on July 10, 2015, 01:45:40 PM
Wider than phil heath.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Tarantula157 on July 10, 2015, 03:48:00 PM
Most likely correct. Doug's job is to stay natty!
He has a line of supplements that contains ingredients banned by WADA.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 12, 2015, 12:38:27 PM
Wider than phil heath.
Why do you mention my neighbour's grandma ?
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Hulk-smash! on July 12, 2015, 02:05:45 PM
Good for him!  Looks a helluva lot better than I currently do for sure.  I'd probably have to starve for a yr to get that lean.  5'9", 195lbs comp weight is damn good IMO.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: forillagorilla on July 12, 2015, 03:36:06 PM
Good for him!  Looks a helluva lot better than I currently do for sure.  I'd probably have to starve for a yr to get that lean.  5'9", 195lbs comp weight is damn good IMO.

Respect my man.. I wish more on here would just be honest instead of the feminine jealousy
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Hulk-smash! on July 12, 2015, 04:18:11 PM
Everyone on bb'ing boards are 5'9, 227lbs, 5% bf w/ 19" arms.  You didn't know that?  You must live in some f'ed up place called REALITY.   ;D
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Dave D on July 12, 2015, 04:41:54 PM
Respect my man.. I wish more on here would just be honest instead of the feminine jealousy

I thought  it goes without  saying dude looks great, he's a pro who's body isn't a mess. I thought he was getting the OHearn treatment because he claims to be natural/drug free.

There is a lot of hate and jealously  here but it's always been that way.

I'll give credit to anyone who can make any income in this industry whether it's OHearn, Braun and Singerman, Jim Manion or Goodrum.

I also reserve the right to call them out for absurd claims.

Just as I continue  to ask HulkSmash to post an upside down coffee cup pic to prove he isn't junior trolling.  It's get big brah.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: goku on July 12, 2015, 04:46:33 PM
Test is natural.

yep, so is GH, insulin, T3.
all natural athlete, i don't see the argument here?
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Hulk-smash! on July 12, 2015, 06:04:41 PM
I thought  it goes without  saying dude looks great, he's a pro who's body isn't a mess. I thought he was getting the OHearn treatment because he claims to be natural/drug free.

There is a lot of hate and jealously  here but it's always been that way.

I'll give credit to anyone who can make any income in this industry whether it's OHearn, Braun and Singerman, Jim Manion or Goodrum.

I also reserve the right to call them out for absurd claims.

Just as I continue  to ask HulkSmash to post an upside down coffee cup pic to prove he isn't junior trolling.  It's get big brah.

Here ya go!
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: calfzilla on July 12, 2015, 06:14:03 PM
Imagine if he started using steroids  :o
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: SF1900 on July 12, 2015, 07:34:45 PM
I thought  it goes without  saying dude looks great, he's a pro who's body isn't a mess. I thought he was getting the OHearn treatment because he claims to be natural/drug free.

There is a lot of hate and jealously  here but it's always been that way.

I'll give credit to anyone who can make any income in this industry whether it's OHearn, Braun and Singerman, Jim Manion or Goodrum.

I also reserve the right to call them out for absurd claims.

Just as I continue  to ask HulkSmash to post an upside down coffee cup pic to prove he isn't junior trolling.  It's get big brah.

He's getting hate not because he looks good, but because he is lying about being natural.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Dave D on July 12, 2015, 08:18:20 PM
Imagine if he started using steroids  :o

LOL

He's getting hate not because he looks good, but because he is lying about being natural.

I know, I was responding  to fGorill's comment about the hate/jealousy.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: SF1900 on July 12, 2015, 08:19:12 PM
LOL

I know, I was responding  to fGorill's comment about the hate/jealousy.

Gotcha.

If Doug is natural, then he could be bigger and more ripped than Ronnie Coleman if he started to use drugs.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: keanu on July 12, 2015, 08:44:53 PM
Yes, Big ACH is a total fool. He says he is friends with Doug and believes that he is 100% natural lol. He states that Doug is crazy about his diet and training, which is why he looks that way.  :D

If they were so tight why wouldn't Doug teach Ach the basics?
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Zillotch on July 12, 2015, 08:55:13 PM
As natural as my rock hard, fully engorged, exceedingly large and aesthetically perfect cialis enabled dick thrusting up into, and prolapsing the rectum of little miss winny delights perfectly formed bikini competitor rear end.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: SF1900 on July 12, 2015, 09:00:11 PM
If they were so tight why wouldn't Doug teach Ach the basics?

Because BIG ACH does not have the willpower to be dedicated like natural Doug. Doug can teach BIG ACH all the basics, but it will not mean anything if BIG ACH does not heed the words!!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=150169.0;attach=167134;image)
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: keanu on July 12, 2015, 09:15:06 PM
Because BIG ACH does not have the willpower to be dedicated like natural Doug. Doug can teach BIG ACH all the basics, but it will not mean anything if BIG ACH does not heed the words!!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=150169.0;attach=167134;image)

If Big Ach or anybody else was getting Doug Miller type results clean, they would be following some Doug Miller protocol. Big Ach looks like your typical natural bodybuilding guy training big and eating big, permabulk style. Is he silly enough to believe that a little extra protein or the anabolic window is the difference between him and the super strong, ripped Miller?
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: SF1900 on July 12, 2015, 09:46:32 PM
If Big Ach or anybody else was getting Doug Miller type results clean, they would be following some Doug Miller protocol. Big Ach looks like your typical natural bodybuilding guy training big and eating big, permabulk style. Is he silly enough to believe that a little extra protein or the anabolic window is the difference between him and the super strong, ripped Miller?

The anabolic window is KEY!! Dough Miller ALWAYS eats under 30 minutes to maximize his muscle growth capacity. That is what leads to his sickening gains.

(http://s23.postimg.org/is3fmxv8r/11709523_453097514872531_4905098569471910637_n.jpg)
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: _aj_ on July 13, 2015, 04:22:47 AM
The anabolic window is KEY!! Dough Miller ALWAYS eats under 30 minutes to maximize his muscle growth capacity. That is what leads to his sickening gains.

(http://s23.postimg.org/is3fmxv8r/11709523_453097514872531_4905098569471910637_n.jpg)

Ahh, I didn't realize that he had his own line of bullshit supplements. That explains the "natural" lie and the laughable insistence. His company would collapse without the illusion that Doug built his body with his products. Hell, it's probably on life-support as it is.

Carry on, you fucking fraudster. Taking money from fucking retard kids and selling them sugar-water fueled dreams.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: inside you on July 13, 2015, 04:50:01 AM
"...Is he silly enough to believe that a little extra protein or the anabolic window is the difference between him and the super strong, ripped Miller?"
- yes, he is.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Army of One on July 13, 2015, 07:30:39 AM
"...Is he silly enough to believe that a little extra protein or the anabolic window is the difference between him and the super strong, ripped Miller?"
- yes, he is.

No he isn't, because he uses himself.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: BigCyp on July 13, 2015, 07:36:05 AM
No he isn't, because he uses himself.

Army of One, are you suggesting that Big Achne is familiar with sharp sensations in his buttcheeks?
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: OlympiaGym on July 13, 2015, 10:09:59 AM
Clearly from the pics he looks juiced to the gills. However, when u stand next to him at an expo he is much, much smaller overall size wise than your typical IFBB pro. Even much shorter 212 guys are way thicker and denser than he is. The 212+ guys at his height, and even shorter, dwarf him size wise. It's not even close. He actually looks normal sized in clothes while these other guys do not. I don't think the pics present the total picture.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Ronnie Rep on July 13, 2015, 12:29:28 PM
Clearly from the pics he looks juiced to the gills. However, when u stand next to him at an expo he is much, much smaller overall size wise than your typical IFBB pro. Even much shorter 212 guys are way thicker and denser than he is. The 212+ guys at his height, and even shorter, dwarf him size wise. It's not even close. He actually looks normal sized in clothes while these other guys do not. I don't think the pics present the total picture.
How tall is he looks about 5' 9".
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Dave D on July 13, 2015, 12:57:16 PM
Clearly from the pics he looks juiced to the gills. However, when u stand next to him at an expo he is much, much smaller overall size wise than your typical IFBB pro. Even much shorter 212 guys are way thicker and denser than he is. The 212+ guys at his height, and even shorter, dwarf him size wise. It's not even close. He actually looks normal sized in clothes while these other guys do not. I don't think the pics present the total picture.

I say this with all due respect but we all know that just because he isn't as big as most ifbb pros doesn't mean he isn't using PEDs. The majority of the posters here think the thread where Dorian  and  Leverone  talk about their respective usage is a lie, and they're admitting  to using drugs.

 Barry Bonds, ARod, Ryan Braun etc...  didn't even look like they worked out let alone used testosterone (and the same could be said of many people in gyms worldwide), but we are aware of what the truth is.

Regardless  of drugs or not Doug has elite genetics for muscle building, he also works extremely  hard to get in shape.

Steroids  aren't going to make you hit home runs, but if you can hit them steroids will make you much better. You need the skill/talent first PED'S only enhance what you have. This is true with bodybuilding.

Ronnie Coleman (or anyone you want to put here) didn't win Olympia's because he took more drugs than everyone else but he won because his genetics for building  muscle were better then everyone he competed against.
*Ronnie off drugs wasn't winning anything either.

Maybe Doug isn't using anything  illegal. Maybe he is doctoring photos. Maybe his genetics are in the upper 1% of muscle building. Maybe he's  only on hrt dosages. Maybe he is juiced to the gills. Maybe he's drug free and telling the truth. Or maybe he's not and he's trying to make a living in an industry that tells us you can take a ZMA pill and increase your testorone levels 473%.

Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: OlympiaGym on July 13, 2015, 01:22:43 PM
How tall is he looks about 5' 9".

He claims 5'9", 195 lb. In contest shape. I think both figures are an exaggeration.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: _aj_ on July 13, 2015, 01:30:30 PM
He claims 5'9", 195 lb. In contest shape. I think both figures are an exaggeration.

When I see that Doug's traps have traps of their own I think of this great natty...
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: OlympiaGym on July 13, 2015, 01:31:23 PM
I say this with all due respect but we all know that just because he isn't as big as most ifbb pros doesn't mean he isn't using PEDs. The majority of the posters here think the thread where Dorian  and  Leverone  talk about their respective usage is a lie, and they're admitting  to using drugs.

 Barry Bonds, ARod, Ryan Braun etc...  didn't even look like they worked out let alone used testosterone (and the same could be said of many people in gyms worldwide), but we are aware of what the truth is.

Regardless  of drugs or not Doug has elite genetics for muscle building, he also works extremely  hard to get in shape.

Steroids  aren't going to make you hit home runs, but if you can hit them steroids will make you much better. You need the skill/talent first PED'S only enhance what you have. This is true with bodybuilding.

Ronnie Coleman (or anyone you want to put here) didn't win Olympia's because he took more drugs than everyone else but he won because his genetics for building  muscle were better then everyone he competed against.
*Ronnie off drugs wasn't winning anything either.

Maybe Doug isn't using anything  illegal. Maybe he is doctoring photos. Maybe his genetics are in the upper 1% of muscle building. Maybe he's  only on hrt dosages. Maybe he is juiced to the gills. Maybe he's drug free and telling the truth. Or maybe he's not and he's trying to make a living in an industry that tells us you can take a ZMA pill and increase your testorone levels 473%.



For all I know he's on tons of gear. All I'm saying is that when u see him in person he's much smaller than he looks in the pics. He has nowhere near the size that the guys who do the IFBB shows have. Nor does he have the same "look" in person.

I don't really care either way just pointing out that the pics are a bit deceptive. If u met him in person u might not be so quick to say he's on gear.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: BDsauce on July 13, 2015, 01:41:52 PM
Yes, Big ACH is a total fool. He says he is friends with Doug and believes that he is 100% natural lol. He states that Doug is crazy about his diet and training, which is why he looks that way.  :D
Big Ach is natural too, he only took prohormones before they were banned in the mid 2000s
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: wes on July 13, 2015, 03:03:05 PM
This guy`s more natural than O`Hearn!!  ;D
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: BIG ACH on July 13, 2015, 03:26:15 PM
Big Ach is natural too, he only took prohormones before they were banned in the mid 2000s

That is true , M1T was amazing
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: SF1900 on July 13, 2015, 03:32:17 PM
Big Ach is natural too, he only took prohormones before they were banned in the mid 2000s

Yes, and BIG ACH probably think Doug is still natty. What a moron.  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: ritch on July 13, 2015, 04:06:45 PM
For all I know he's on tons of gear. All I'm saying is that when u see him in person he's much smaller than he looks in the pics. He has nowhere near the size that the guys who do the IFBB shows have. Nor does he have the same "look" in person.

I don't really care either way just pointing out that the pics are a bit deceptive. If u met him in person u might not be so quick to say he's on gear.

that would be said for pretty much all the pics of everyone we see nowadays but natties, especially I bet.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: mr.turbo on July 13, 2015, 04:09:41 PM
those biceps look to be inflated to about 34 psi
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: jude2 on July 13, 2015, 08:01:19 PM
Ahh, I didn't realize that he had his own line of bullshit supplements. That explains the "natural" lie and the laughable insistence. His company would collapse without the illusion that Doug built his body with his products. Hell, it's probably on life-support as it is.

Carry on, you fucking fraudster. Taking money from fucking retard kids and selling them sugar-water fueled dreams.
Bingo.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: njflex on July 13, 2015, 08:05:07 PM
those biceps look to be inflated to about 34 psi
they look like that way i thought as well,,strange.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: heenok on July 15, 2015, 02:50:10 AM
Because BIG ACH does not have the willpower to be dedicated like natural Doug. Doug can teach BIG ACH all the basics, but it will not mean anything if BIG ACH does not heed the words!!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=150169.0;attach=167134;image)

Jesus fucking Christ  :-X
Look at that pubic hair spilling out the underwear

i just lost my appetite
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 15, 2015, 03:01:42 AM
Jesus fucking Christ  :-X
Look at that pubic hair spilling out the underwear

i just lost my appetite

Not Bay-likely
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Army of One on July 15, 2015, 06:41:59 AM
Ach and doug are bros

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2vxnkhc.jpg)
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: _aj_ on July 15, 2015, 07:06:54 AM
Ach and doug are bros

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2vxnkhc.jpg)


I see the source of the confusion: Doug's head is the size of a small orange.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Hulk-smash! on July 15, 2015, 09:27:26 AM
Nice belt Hammad!
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Twaddle on July 15, 2015, 12:09:38 PM
Ach and doug are bros

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2vxnkhc.jpg)


The sad part is, that shirt's not even shopped.   :-\
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 15, 2015, 12:47:51 PM
I may be mistaken but I think Disgusted said a while back that Doug might be natural, surprised me a bit. IMO there's no way in hell he is anywhere close to natural.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Disgusted on July 15, 2015, 01:25:56 PM
I may be mistaken but I think Disgusted said a while back that Doug might be natural, surprised me a bit. IMO there's no way in hell he is anywhere close to natural.

I did BUT I was commenting on pics from a few years ago. He's made some pretty impressive muscle gains after those photos. His conditioning does make him look bigger than he really is but he's not natty IMO.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Army of One on July 15, 2015, 01:30:41 PM
I did BUT I was commenting on pics from a few years ago. He's made some pretty impressive muscle gains after those photos. His conditioning does make him look bigger than he really is but he's not natty IMO.

No shit
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Leatherneck on July 15, 2015, 05:46:45 PM
Ach and doug are bros

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2vxnkhc.jpg)

How many years has it been since it was cool for young people to tuck in their shirts? 1993?
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: calfzilla on July 16, 2015, 02:06:40 AM
How many years has it been since it was cool for young people to tuck in their shirts? 1993?

Fishnet shirts?  Never.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Twaddle on July 16, 2015, 05:46:27 AM
Fishnet shirts?  Never.

Fishnet, half-turtleneck no less.   :D
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: Waller on July 16, 2015, 06:11:40 AM
Fishnet, half-turtleneck no less.   :D

Quite the combination of fashion faux pas.
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: BIG ACH on July 16, 2015, 06:39:04 AM
Fishnet, half-turtleneck no less.   :D

That pic is from 10 years ago (Exactly actually... Summer of 2005) :)  Sadly my wife has since burned all those spandex and fishnet shirts (or so I suspect), I suppose I have to behave like an adult eventually!

Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: njflex on July 16, 2015, 07:06:42 AM
BIG ACH CAUGHT 4 LOBSTERS IN THAT SHIRT WHEN HE SWAM IN THE OCEAN...
Title: Re: DOUG MILLER--ALL NATURAL PRO
Post by: oldschoolfan on July 16, 2015, 07:37:21 AM
ha ha big ach i was about to ask if that was recent,   

i hope not .................. CAUSE YOUR THE Pharaoh   OF GETBIG  !!