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Yes we all know his statements are ignorant and he is somewhat ill-informed on the issues....but I have to admit , shamefully so, that Trump does have some appeal to me and it explains why he's so high in the polls...
He says exactly what he means.....there's no bullshit and no spin doctors.....I was watching an interview with Gov Scott Walker on CNN this Sunday and the interview was frustrating, and infuriating....he wouldn't answer a definitive yes or no to anything and when asked to elaborate he would say "I just did" when he actually didn't.....he changed positions and then claimed he hadn't....
It just struck me that watching interviews with politicians is such a waste of time because they don't say anything substantive.....and the ducking, dodging and weaving is just painful to watch.....
Donald Trump says what he means and means what he says...He's actually a symptom of whats wrong with American politics...I had no problem with what he said about John McCain because McCain has been coasting on his record for years...he hasn't done anything substantive in the senate for years and has wasted the last 7 years criticizing Obama on TV...Trump said that McCain spends all of his time on TV, says nothing and has done nothing for Veterans....
staight to the point..... and probably factual......you don't have to wonder or try to figure out where Trump stands..you KNOW.
My opinion on Trump is softening somewhat but its still a scary thought that he would be president and in charge of our nuclear arsenal :o
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I agree.
He is almost anti-politician in the way he conducts himself, and you know you will get a definitive answer, when asking questions.
Its both refreshing and entertaining.
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Yes we all know his statements are ignorant and he is somewhat ill-informed on the issues....but I have to admit , shamefully so, that Trump does have some appeal to me and it explains why he's so high in the polls...
He says exactly what he means.....there's no bullshit and no spin doctors.....I was watching an interview with Gov Scott Walker on CNN this Sunday and the interview was frustrating, and infuriating....he wouldn't answer a definitive yes or no to anything and when asked to elaborate he would say "I just did" when he actually didn't.....he changed positions and then claimed he hadn't....
It just struck me that watching interviews with politicians is such a waste of time because they don't say anything substantive.....and the ducking, dodging and weaving is just painful to watch.....
Donald Trump says what he means and means what he says...He's actually a symptom of whats wrong with American politics...I had no problem with what he said about John McCain because McCain has been coasting on his record for years...he hasn't done anything substantive in the senate for years and has wasted the last 7 years criticizing Obama on TV...Trump said that McCain spends all of his time on TV, says nothing and has done nothing for Veterans....
staight to the point..... and probably factual......you don't have to wonder or try to figure out where Trump stands..you KNOW.
My opinion on Trump is softening somewhat but its still a scary thought that he would be president and in charge of our nuclear arsenal :o
Lol....I shamefully admit that I kind of agree with you
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There is nothing noble about what Trump is saying. He's an idiot. An inability to control your mouth, especially when you have such a large platform, is not a virtue. He is a joke.
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An inability to control your mouth, especially when you have such a large platform, is not a virtue.
this is america. freedom of speech gives every person the right to say anything they want, as loudly as they want, even if it's rude, ignorant, brilliant, stupid, or anything else... even anti-american, ironically.
people as diverse as charles manson, to ted bundy, to sarah palin, to donald trump...
If you're really upset he's abusing his national platform, I'm really surprised. I dont think you are tho.
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this is america. freedom of speech gives every person the right to say anything they want, as loudly as they want, even if it's rude, ignorant, brilliant, stupid, or anything else... even anti-american, ironically.
people as diverse as charles manson, to ted bundy, to sarah palin, to donald trump...
If you're really upset he's abusing his national platform, I'm really surprised. I dont think you are tho.
What the heck does this have to do with free speech?
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I agree.
He is almost anti-politician in the way he conducts himself, and you know you will get a definitive answer, when asking questions.
Its both refreshing and entertaining.
it is refreshing in a sense...just to have a guy say what he really means is different
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There is nothing noble about what Trump is saying. He's an idiot. An inability to control your mouth, especially when you have such a large platform, is not a virtue. He is a joke.
the content may not be noble.....but the actual willingness to voice his opinion and not apologize for it is a virtue...and to speak out against his opponents and actually criticize them in a way that they are not used to is awesome to watch quite frankly..calling Rick Perry dumb was amazing ;D...a lot of people believe this
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the content may not be noble.....but the actual willingness to voice his opinion and not apologize for it is a virtue...and to speak out against his opponents and actually criticize them in a way that they are not used to is awesome to watch quit frankly..calling Rick Perry dumb was amazing ;D
A virtue is knowing when and how to use words in the appropriate setting. True intelligence includes self-control. Good leadership encompasses the ability to deal with critics and opponents with class and dignity. Trump fails all of those tests.
I never thought he was viable, but his comments about McCain will ensure he maintains his sideshow status for as long as he remains in the campaign.
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A virtue is knowing when and how to use words in the appropriate setting. True intelligence includes self-control. Good leadership encompasses the ability to deal with critics and opponents with class and dignity. Trump fails all of those tests.
I never thought he was viable, but his comments about McCain will ensure he maintains his sideshow status for as long as he remains in the campaign.
I think a lot of it is joking actually....I think a part of trump's act is making people laugh..he lacks political intelligence......but this is how he deals with critics...remember Rosie O'Donnell???..he totally destroyed her by calling her fat and disgusting and a pig all over the media
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I think a lot of it is joking actually....I think a part of trump's act is making people laugh..he lacks political intelligence......but this is how he deals with critics...remember Rosie O'Donnell???..he totally destroyed her by calling her fat and disgusting and a pig all over the media
He might be joking, but it doesn't really matter. I doubt people think he is actually joking. And even if he is, those are not the kinds of "jokes" the president should be telling.
I remember his comments about her. They were kinda funny. But those were comments made by an entertainer. They are not the kind of comments that should be made someone who wants to be president.
He lacks all sorts of intelligence, but his biggest problem is he never really has people tell him "no." It's sort of like Michael Jackson and others with extreme amounts of money and fame. They are surrounded by people who do nothing but kiss their rear ends all day every day. They are not used to having to control what they say (or do), because they don't need too. That's partly why you see young professional athletes doing stupid stuff all the time too.
Trump knows business and how to make money. He doesn't know how to control his own behavior well enough to be president.
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He might be joking, but it doesn't really matter. I doubt people think he is actually joking. And even if he is, those are not the kinds of "jokes" the president should be telling.
I remember his comments about her. They were kinda funny. But those were comments made by an entertainer. They are not the kind of comments that should be made someone who wants to be president.
He lacks all sorts of intelligence, but his biggest problem is he never really has people tell him "no." It's sort of like Michael Jackson and others with extreme amounts of money and fame. They are surrounded by people who do nothing but kiss their rear ends all day every day. They are not used to having to control what they say (or do), because they don't need too. That's partly why you see young professional athletes doing stupid stuff all the time too.
Trump knows business and how to make money. He doesn't know how to control his own behavior well enough to be president.
It's refreshing to see you hating on the republican frontrunner like this.
SOOOO MANY getbig "republicans" have turned from "Trump is a joke" to "i like what Trump is saying" because the polls tell them what to think.
it's nice to see you aren't just kneepadding the #1 polling repub like the rest of the "independently thinking conservatives" seem to do.
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He might be joking, but it doesn't really matter. I doubt people think he is actually joking. And even if he is, those are not the kinds of "jokes" the president should be telling.
I remember his comments about her. They were kinda funny. But those were comments made by an entertainer. They are not the kind of comments that should be made someone who wants to be president.
He lacks all sorts of intelligence, but his biggest problem is he never really has people tell him "no." It's sort of like Michael Jackson and others with extreme amounts of money and fame. They are surrounded by people who do nothing but kiss their rear ends all day every day. They are not used to having to control what they say (or do), because they don't need too. That's partly why you see young professional athletes doing stupid stuff all the time too.
Trump knows business and how to make money. He doesn't know how to control his own behavior well enough to be president.
yes but he cuts right through all the bull......I love that he called Perry "dumb" and that he criticized McCain......and I think Trump is right on his criticism of McCain...he's been living off that war record for a very long time...and hasn't done much of substance since he lost to Obama...and I'm not sure, but what HAS he done for Veterans???...Trump is right that someone needs to run against McCain and beat him...he's become irrelevant
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yes but he cuts right through all the bull......I love that he called Perry "dumb" and that he criticized McCain......and I think Trump is right on his criticism of McCain...he's been living off that war record for a very long time...and hasn't done much of substance since he lost to Obama...and I'm not sure, but what HAS he done for Veterans???...Trump is right that someone needs to run against McCain and beat him...he's become irrelevant
You have to distinguish between locker room and table talk and the things you say in a public forum. People who lack self control say whatever they are thinking, regardless of the forum. That's not the sign of a good leader.
Even if we assume McCain hasn't done enough for veterans, that really doesn't give someone like Trump license to say whatever he wants in public. The man has no class.
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It's refreshing to see you hating on the republican frontrunner like this.
SOOOO MANY getbig "republicans" have turned from "Trump is a joke" to "i like what Trump is saying" because the polls tell them what to think.
it's nice to see you aren't just kneepadding the #1 polling repub like the rest of the "independently thinking conservatives" seem to do.
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Amazing speech by Trump in his latest appearance......absolute ly awesome entertainment...he totally destroyed everyone...especially Bush and Lindsay Graham ;D ;D
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Even if we assume McCain hasn't done enough for veterans, that really doesn't give someone like Trump license to say whatever he wants in public. The man has no class.
who the fck needs "license" to say anything in america? He says what he wants, no matter how idiotic.
I think the saddest thing you feel, dos equis, is shame that Trump now has a double digit lead over the other repubs. The base of the party has passed "low info voter" and perhaps devolved to "emotional, venom-based voter" we haven't seen since Glen Rice's girlfriend ran for office.
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who the fck needs "license" to say anything in america? He says what he wants, no matter how idiotic.
I think the saddest thing you feel, dos equis, is shame that Trump now has a double digit lead over the other repubs. The base of the party has passed "low info voter" and perhaps devolved to "emotional, venom-based voter" we haven't seen since Glen Rice's girlfriend ran for office.
::) You liberals are in love with Trump because you think he will harm the GOP. Enjoy him while you can. His 15 minutes will be up after a while.
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::) You liberals are in love with Trump because you think he will harm the GOP. Enjoy him while you can. His 15 minutes will be up after a while.
yeah, you're the dude who told us the only way he makes a dent in the polls is by using his vast fortune $$$.
He has a double-digit leads, as many of us in the base predicted, and yes, even Rush limbaugh said today that he refuses to attack trump. "I won't come to his defense on everything, but I will not attack Trump..." right at the end of his broadcast today.
Maybe you can turn off the apprentice and give FOX news radio some love.
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yeah, you're the dude who told us the only way he makes a dent in the polls is by using his vast fortune $$$.
He has a double-digit leads, as many of us in the base predicted, and yes, even Rush limbaugh said today that he refuses to attack trump. "I won't come to his defense on everything, but I will not attack Trump..." right at the end of his broadcast today.
Maybe you can turn off the apprentice and give FOX news radio some love.
Yes, he will hang around for a little while because of his money, name recognition, and liberals like you tripping all over themselves to give the man a platform. You probably have 20 threads on the first page alone about Trump. It's what you liberal lackeys do.
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Yes, he will hang around for a little while because of his money, name recognition, and liberals like you tripping all over themselves to give the man a platform. You probably have 20 threads on the first page alone about Trump. It's what you liberal lackeys do.
Oh, so you have amended your original prediction. Cool. How long is "sticking around for a while"?
and do "liberals like me" include RUSH LIMBAUGH, who said today that he refuses to join the liberals in bashing trump? Quite the opposite from what you're saying, that libs are loving on him. Maybe you missed the 24/7 lib trashing of Trump after his mccain quote? ;)
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Oh, so you have amended your original prediction. Cool. How long is "sticking around for a while"?
and do "liberals like me" include RUSH LIMBAUGH, who said today that he refuses to join the liberals in bashing trump? Quite the opposite from what you're saying, that libs are loving on him. Maybe you missed the 24/7 lib trashing of Trump after his mccain quote? ;)
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I haven't amended anything.
Liberals like you include all the low information voters frothing at the mouth over Trump. This is like a wet dream for you dummies. ::)
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It's a NEW ERA for politics. The repubs have begun to slide into Trump's Liberal Trap. While Hilary is giving canned stump speeches and being safe/boring, the repubs have actually disintegrated into NAME CALLING and GIVING OUT CELL PHONE NUMBERS.
Donald Trump Escalates Feud With 'Idiot' Lindsey Graham In South Carolina
Source: Huffpo
Real estate mogul Donald Trump took his feud with Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) to new heights on Tuesday by hurling insults at the senator in his home state of South Carolina and giving out his personal cell phone number to the public.
Addressing supporters at a campaign rally in Bluffton, Trump recalled hearing Graham call him a "jackass" for questioning Sen. John McCain's (R-Ariz.) status as a war hero.
"I watched this idiot Lindsey Graham on television today and he calls me a jackass!" Trump remarked.
"I'm trying to be nice, I'm working hard to be nice," he added, before calling Graham a "total lightweight."
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-escalates-feud-with-idiot-lindsey-graham-in-south-carolina_55ae737ce4b0a9b9485298c7?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
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::) You liberals are in love with Trump because you think he will harm the GOP. Enjoy him while you can. His 15 minutes will be up after a while.
not true......I'm fascinated by the guy because he is saying things and venting the frustration toward politicians that the average American feels...I think a lot of people are living vicariously through Trump because they wish they could say these same things face to face to these politicians..
Remember..he did the same thing to president Obama in terms of the birth certificate issue
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Trump doesn't give a fuck, so he'll continue saying whatever he wants, but look at the potential consequences down the road. If, by some miracle, he were to be elected as President, he's going to have to work with the very same people he's calling stupid, idiots, etc. Not wise if he really wants to accomplish something while in office.
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not true......I'm fascinated by the guy because he is saying things and venting the frustration toward politicians that the average American feels...I think a lot of people are living vicariously through Trump because they wish they could say these same things face to face to these politicians..
Remember..he did the same thing to president Obama in terms of the birth certificate issue
That might be why you like him, and some others, but that isn't the reason the MSM is all over him. He is an embarrassment and the MSM will do everything it can to taint Republicans. It would be like asking rank and file Republicans whether they would like to see Biden as the nominee. He would get crushed.
Trump is going nowhere.
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That might be why you like him, and some others, but that isn't the reason the MSM is all over him.
Trump is going nowhere.
Coach is a respected republican on getbig. And he said Trump is going to destroy hilary in the debates.
Dos Equis, I know it sickens you, but wow, you should realize Trump is winning over a ton of republicans that didn't support him 2 weeks ago.
You keep blaming the MSM, but do you listen to Rush? Rush has moved from "not criticizing" trump to outright defending him most of this show. Rush is realizing what his viewers want - more Trump.
At some point, you'll have to realize it's no longer the left propping up trump ;)
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Coach is a respected republican on getbig. And he said Trump is going to destroy hilary in the debates.
Dos Equis, I know it sickens you, but wow, you should realize Trump is winning over a ton of republicans that didn't support him 2 weeks ago.
You keep blaming the MSM, but do you listen to Rush? Rush has moved from "not criticizing" trump to outright defending him most of this show. Rush is realizing what his viewers want - more Trump.
At some point, you'll have to realize it's no longer the left propping up trump ;)
No I don't listen to Rush.
None of this stuff sickens me.
I realize you have a Trump fetish, just like every other liberal out there who wants to to embarrass the GOP. Too bad for you that his 15 minutes will not last forever.
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I realize you have a Trump fetish, just like every other liberal out there who wants to to embarrass the GOP.
Do you believe Trump's a liberal plant, like many on the right are now accusing?
(If he's not a plant, he's sure wearing the plant costume and doing the plant job description lol)
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Do you believe Trump's a liberal plant, like many on the right are now accusing?
(If he's not a plant, he's sure wearing the plant costume and doing the plant job description lol)
Of course not.
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Of course not.
Interesting. So he's honestly a republican... in that case, he's just an incredibly STUPID one? He's completely unaware he's wrecking the GOP brand and wrecking the other candidates too?
Either he's a plant, or he's just reckless. But either way, he's destroying the repubs and many repubs (like coach) love him.
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Interesting. So he's honestly a republican... in that case, he's just an incredibly STUPID one? He's completely unaware he's wrecking the GOP brand and wrecking the other candidates too?
Either he's a plant, or he's just reckless. But either way, he's destroying the repubs and many repubs (like coach) love him.
No, he's not "honestly a republican." He's a Republican in Name Only, just like you. (Unless it's a day you're claiming to be a libertarian.)
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That might be why you like him, and some others, but that isn't the reason the MSM is all over him. He is an embarrassment and the MSM will do everything it can to taint Republicans. It would be like asking rank and file Republicans whether they would like to see Biden as the nominee. He would get crushed.
Trump is going nowhere.
I respect your opinion but we have to get away from blaming the MSM.....Trump is an entertainer.....he brings ratings....can't blame them for wanting ratings especially when the other candidates are playing it safe and are sooo boring...the fact is that the other candidates (including Hillary) hasn't said much worth a damn adn thats why Trump and Bernie Sanders are taking up all the space in the race........they don't come out strongly on the issues and as a result, no one knows where they stand on anything.....at least we all here KNOW EXACTLY where trump and Bernie stand on any given issue even if there is no substance there on Trump's part
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I respect your opinion but we have to get away from blaming the MSM.....Trump is an entertainer.....he brings ratings....can't blame them for wanting ratings especially when the other candidates are playing it safe and are sooo boring...the fact is that the other candidates (including Hillary) hasn't said much worth a damn adn thats why Trump and Bernie Sanders are taking up all the space in the race........they don't come out strongly on the issues and as a result, no one knows where they stand on anything.....at least we all here KNOW EXACTLY where trump and Bernie stand on any given issue even if there is no substance there on Trump's part
I agree he is an entertainer and that this is playing a role in him getting so much attention. That only further establishes that he is not a legitimate, viable candidate.
People do want straight talk, but they don't want disrespectful straight talk.
Also, I don't see Trump having the patience or discipline to engage in an effective 50-state campaign. He's going to say and do too many dumb things.
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I agree he is an entertainer and that this is playing a role in him getting so much attention. That only further establishes that he is not a legitimate, viable candidate.
People do want straight talk, but they don't want disrespectful straight talk.
Also, I don't see Trump having the patience or discipline to engage in an effective 50-state campaign. He's going to say and do too many dumb things.
oh I definitely agree he won't stay the course....UNLESS he comes out of the debates ahead in the polls and this might lead him to assume that he WILL be president and then his ego won't allow him to drop out....
Hillary better watch it..I think she's making the same mistake that she made when she underestimated Obama and he snuck in there and won....
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oh I definitely agree he won't stay the course....UNLESS he comes out of the debates ahead in the polls and this might lead him to assume that he WILL be president and then his ego won't allow him to drop out....
Hillary better watch it..I think she's making the same mistake that she made when she underestimated Obama and he snuck in there and won....
Ok. This is getting weird, because I've agreed with two of your posts in a row. :o
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You're right, Trump is the anti politician. While I don't want the smooth, coached, say what the audience wants to hear President, I certainly don't want the obnoxious, juvenile agitator President either. Can't we have a happy medium?
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You're right, Trump is the anti politician. While I don't want the smooth, coached, say what the audience wants to hear President, I certainly don't want the obnoxious, juvenile agitator President either. Can't we have a happy medium?
Exactly.
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No, he's not "honestly a republican." He's a Republican in Name Only
This is hilarious that you're calling trump a rino.
The thing is, you're right. He's a lifelong liberal that attached himself to the anger of the repub base. We are in 100% agreement on Trump, he's a lib lib lib who is hijacking the GOP nomination process.
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This is hilarious that you're calling trump a rino.
The thing is, you're right. He's a lifelong liberal that attached himself to the anger of the repub base. We are in 100% agreement on Trump, he's a lib lib lib who is hijacking the GOP nomination process.
It's kinda stupid that you are talking about RINOs, when that is exactly what you are. You're not a Republican. You don't even play one on TV.
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It's kinda stupid that you are talking about RINOs, when that is exactly what you are. You're not a Republican. You don't even play one on TV.
personal attacks on me are fine. It allows you to avoid the issue that you just called the repub frontrunner a liberal pretending to be a republican - and you are correct.
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personal attacks on me are fine. It allows you to avoid the issue that you just called the repub frontrunner a liberal pretending to be a republican - and you are correct.
Calling you a RINO is not a personal attack. You're a friggin clown. (Now that is a personal attack.) :)
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Ok. This is getting weird, because I've agreed with two of your posts in a row. :o
it shows you're finally coming around! ;)
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This is hilarious that you're calling trump a rino.
The thing is, you're right. He's a lifelong liberal that attached himself to the anger of the repub base. We are in 100% agreement on Trump, he's a lib lib lib who is hijacking the GOP nomination process.
CNN is reporting right now that Trump's dominance is heightening...he's getting stronger in the polls
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it shows you're finally coming around! ;)
That or I must be losing my mind . . . .
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CNN is reporting right now that Trump's dominance is heightening...he's getting stronger in the polls
Deep down, many "repubs" or "conservatives" on getbig want nothing more than an angry, anti-illegal liberal leading them.
With Trump, they have it. They totally have it.
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Deep down, many "repubs" or "conservatives" on getbig want nothing more than an angry, anti-illegal liberal leading them.
With Trump, they have it. They totally have it.
if he wins the nomination, just wait until he really laces into Hillary......brings up all of her supposed unlawful activities.....yells as loud as he can that shes untrustworthy and a liar....people will listen to that......it would be scary, but if he gets out of the primaries and he confronts Clinton head on he just COULD become president
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That or I must be losing my mind . . . .
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if he wins the nomination, just wait until he really laces into Hillary......brings up all of her supposed unlawful activities.....yells as loud as he can that shes untrustworthy and a liar....people will listen to that......it would be scary, but if he gets out of the primaries and he confronts Clinton head on he just COULD become president
he was a clinton donor. Hilary sat up front at his wedding.
Trump is screaming loudest about other repubs because he doesn't want Repub voters to know just how similar he is to hilary.
Repubs love trump cause he's loud, rude, and they know him. he's palin version 2.0... But once they examine the lifetime of LIBERAL positions, donations and statements from trump, they're going to be shocked they ever backed him.
Coach: "Trump is going to destroy hilary in the debates".
Um, bro, Trump IS hilary. Remember?
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I agree he is an entertainer and that this is playing a role in him getting so much attention. That only further establishes that he is not a legitimate, viable candidate.
People do want straight talk, but they don't want disrespectful straight talk.
Also, I don't see Trump having the patience or discipline to engage in an effective 50-state campaign. He's going to say and do too many dumb things.
Ego will be his downfall.
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Ego will be his downfall.
maybe... but maybe not. Half of the shit Trump has said would 100% sink any other candidate's campaign. The "i'm only proud of the POWs that DIDNT get caught" was some of the most classless shit ever said in american politics.
At this point, the base WANTS to be shocked, they want the outrageous rude person.
At this point, the RINOs in the middle just don't want to 'miss out' on all the celebrity.
The minute his ego shrinks - THAT is when his campaign shrinks. The first heartfelt apology, and voila, trump loses the pissed off base that hates everything.
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maybe... but maybe not. Half of the shit Trump has said would 100% sink any other candidate's campaign. The "i'm only proud of the POWs that DIDNT get caught" was some of the most classless shit ever said in american politics.
At this point, the base WANTS to be shocked, they want the outrageous rude person.
At this point, the RINOs in the middle just don't want to 'miss out' on all the celebrity.
The minute his ego shrinks - THAT is when his campaign shrinks. The first heartfelt apology, and voila, trump loses the pissed off base that hates everything.
I actually didn't mind him saying that about McCain...McCain is a hypocrite...chimed in about Obama possibly being born in a foreign country when he HIMSELF was born in Panama.......when he was facing a tough primary, he suddenly veered far right and wanted a wall built on the Mexican border and supported illegal arrest and deportation......yet dropped those positions when he got re-elected....went on TV and blamed Obama for the Veterans Hospital mess YET>>>>McCain is the head of the Armed Services Committee in congress and KNEW what was going on yet did nothing
Trump is right that McCain has been coasting on his record for a long time and has wasted the past seven years going on TV and talking about Obama yet has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HIMSELF....
McCain is not a sacred cow
All of the Republicans arte neophytes....even Walker has done nothing spectacular except beat the unions...
Dick Cheney has a better record than ANY of the Republican contenders....if he wasn't such a dick I would hope he would run...if Jeb's father ran I would vote for him even though hes in a wheelchair and shitting on himself daily
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true that.... cheney, rummy... their resumes are how a presidents' SHOULD look.
A bunch of dudes that have been in national office fewer than 5 years, voting present and borrowing tons, paying off their wealthy donors and really leaving with short-term gains
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Ego will be his downfall.
No doubt.
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No doubt.
probably......but Trump diferently is s different type of animal.....This is so exciting!...we've never had a guy like him run for president
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probably......but Trump diferently is s different type of animal.....This is so exciting!...we've never had a guy like him run for president
Exciting? I guess that's one way to describe it. I think it's more like watching a slow moving train wreck.
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Exciting? I guess that's one way to describe it. I think it's more like watching a slow moving train wreck.
whats exciting is that I've never in my lifetime seen a candidate go at the others with the gloves totally off....with such abandon not caring what the consequenes are since he is NOT a career politician....The only guy he has not gone after is Ted Cruz
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You have to distinguish between locker room and table talk and the things you say in a public forum. People who lack self control say whatever they are thinking, regardless of the forum. That's not the sign of a good leader.
Even if we assume McCain hasn't done enough for veterans, that really doesn't give someone like Trump license to say whatever he wants in public. The man has no class.
couldn't disagree more, this is public office man, if you aren't doing shit or lazy or incompetent you need to be called out and removed. These fucking clowns make a career of politics, raping the working man. If it's true state it, if he is ranting then it's in bad taste. Stating facts is never wrong, ever.... who cares if peoples feelings are hurt? nothing happens...Sarah Palin was a moron, someone should have stated as much instantly. Suffering her stupidity was the worst approach. You are sounding like you enjoy political correctness?
If Mccain hasn't done shit for vets, every single tax payer has the right to call him out, that's what the BOSS is suppose to do.
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couldn't disagree more, this is public office man, if you aren't doing shit or lazy or incompetent you need to be called out and removed. These fucking clowns make a career of politics, raping the working man. If it's true state it, if he is ranting then it's in bad taste. Stating facts is never wrong, ever.... who cares if peoples feelings are hurt? nothing happens...Sarah Palin was a moron, someone should have stated as much instantly. Suffering her stupidity was the worst approach. You are sounding like you enjoy political correctness?
If Mccain hasn't done shit for vets, every single tax payer has the right to call him out, that's what the BOSS is suppose to do.
I do agree with Dos Equis and think that presidential candidates should be civil and should have a proper discourse, but I like your point about Sarah Palin being a total moron and no one would ACTUALLY COME OUT AND SAY IT....I have to admit that was very frustrating.......had her opponents called her a moron from the beginning and not tolerated her nonsensical whimsy, she may not have gone on to embarrass herself the way she ultimately did...
yes lets face it, we want our politicians to be gentlemen, but sometimes the fake politeness gets in the way of what really must be said
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I actually didn't mind him saying that about McCain...McCain is a hypocrite...chimed in about Obama possibly being born in a foreign country when he HIMSELF was born in Panama.......when he was facing a tough primary, he suddenly veered far right and wanted a wall built on the Mexican border and supported illegal arrest and deportation......yet dropped those positions when he got re-elected....went on TV and blamed Obama for the Veterans Hospital mess YET>>>>McCain is the head of the Armed Services Committee in congress and KNEW what was going on yet did nothing
Trump is right that McCain has been coasting on his record for a long time and has wasted the past seven years going on TV and talking about Obama yet has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HIMSELF....
McCain is not a sacred cow
All of the Republicans arte neophytes....even Walker has done nothing spectacular except beat the unions...
Dick Cheney has a better record than ANY of the Republican contenders....if he wasn't such a dick I would hope he would run...if Jeb's father ran I would vote for him even though hes in a wheelchair and shitting on himself daily
I do mind.. here's why...
Yes McCain sucks.. yes he's an angry old man.. yes he flip flopped... all the things you said may be true.. and by god.. slam him on those things.. but Trump hasn't for one second imagined what it must have been like to be a Vietnam POW.. what MCCain endured and survived.. THAT should be a sacred cow. Blast him for his politics all day long.. Mock being a POW and you are a low life POS scumbag.. just my opinion
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I do mind.. here's why...
Yes McCain sucks.. yes he's an angry old man.. yes he flip flopped... all the things you said may be true.. and by god.. slam him on those things.. but Trump hasn't for one second imagined what it must have been like to be a Vietnam POW.. what MCCain endured and survived.. THAT should be a sacred cow. Blast him for his politics all day long.. Mock being a POW and you are a low life POS scumbag.. just my opinion
yes but you see, I live in New York City where Trump is based...I've heard him over the years.....he has always been big here in NY....part of what he was saying was a JOKE...yes, a harsh joke...in which he was trying to make a point.....its like when we were kids and someone came at you with something that hit a little too close to home....so then you would do the same thing in turn, but not REALLY mean it....but getting people to laugh at you was a way of getting back at you.....I think thats what Trump does and people unfortunately take it very very seriously because he's a candidate...not making excuses for the guy but his philosophy is that he will hit back at you if you hit him hard and then to see who can take it more....you or him
saying that Trump was a Jackass was a big insult as well in politics
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whats exciting is that I've never in my lifetime seen a candidate go at the others with the gloves totally off....with such abandon not caring what the consequenes are since he is NOT a career politician....The only guy he has not gone after is Ted Cruz
I'd call it more entertaining than exciting. But that's just me.
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couldn't disagree more, this is public office man, if you aren't doing shit or lazy or incompetent you need to be called out and removed. These fucking clowns make a career of politics, raping the working man. If it's true state it, if he is ranting then it's in bad taste. Stating facts is never wrong, ever.... who cares if peoples feelings are hurt? nothing happens...Sarah Palin was a moron, someone should have stated as much instantly. Suffering her stupidity was the worst approach. You are sounding like you enjoy political correctness?
If Mccain hasn't done shit for vets, every single tax payer has the right to call him out, that's what the BOSS is suppose to do.
No, a leader should not state "facts" in any manner he or she chooses. And some of those "fact" are actually opinions. Delivery is important. Context is important. Consensus building is important. Trump's scorched earth approach is really an example of someone who lacks true intelligence. Really smart people know how to get their message across without acting like a donkey.
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I'd call it more entertaining than exciting. But that's just me.
same thing..you're parsing words :)
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No, a leader should not state "facts" in any manner he or she chooses. And some of those "fact" are actually opinions. Delivery is important. Context is important. Consensus building is important. Trump's scorched earth approach is really an example of someone who lacks true intelligence. Really smart people know how to get their message across without acting like a donkey.
I agree that he doesn't think things through and that he has limited intelligence in terms of understadning the world's problems....
BUT...sometimes just saying things without a whole lot of thought and just cutting through all the bull works well because you stay on message.....even though real facts be damned....and Trump is certainly very very good at staying on message.....he doesn't obfuscate...he says something...doubles down on it and people are attracted to that......instead of hearing politik-speak where candidates talk all day and say little
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same thing..you're parsing words :)
They don't mean the same thing.
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I agree that he doesn't think things through and that he has limited intelligence in terms of understadning the world's problems....
BUT...sometimes just saying things without a whole lot of thought and just cutting through all the bull works well because you stay on message.....even though real facts be damned....and Trump is certainly very very good at staying on message.....he doesn't obfuscate...he says something...doubles down on it and people are attracted to that......instead of hearing politik-speak where candidates talk all day and say little
He has limited intelligence, because he doesn't know how to properly interact with and treat people, particularly those he disagrees with.
Saying things without a lot of thought is a horrible way to operate, especially for a leader.
Even those who like plain talk are going to get tired of him.
If you want an example of someone who knows when to turn it on and off, it's Christie.
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He has limited intelligence, because he doesn't know how to properly interact with and treat people, particularly those he disagrees with.
Saying things without a lot of thought is a horrible way to operate, especially for a leader.
Even those who like plain talk are going to get tired of him.
If you want an example of someone who knows when to turn it on and off, it's Christie.
I don't know....Christie is in some ways worse because he actually goes after people in his audience.....that may not endear you to voters if you come off like a bully.......at least Trump can claim to pick on people his own size :)
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I don't know....Christie is in some ways worse because he actually goes after people in his audience.....that may not endear you to voters if you come off like a bully.......at least Trump can claim to pick on people his own size :)
Christi responds to people who are being obnoxious themselves, at least in the clips I've seen.
Kinda hard for Christi to pick on someone his own size. lol ;D Well played . . . .
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I'd call it more entertaining than exciting. But that's just me.
you bragged about meeting palin.
Would you say the trump electricity eclipses even hers?
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you bragged about meeting palin.
Would you say the trump electricity eclipses even hers?
He must have had stars in his eyes ;)...Dos equis..is she as pretty in real life??
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you bragged about meeting palin.
Would you say the trump electricity eclipses even hers?
I didn't brag about anything you lying insecure twerp. lol
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He must have had stars in his eyes ;)...Dos equis..is she as pretty in real life??
No stars. :) Just ran into her at the airport (along with her family). Nice lady. Looks much smaller in real life. And yes pretty in real life.
What's funny is it was right before the cap "scandal," where she was wearing a cap with McCain's name blacked out. She wound up leaving Maui early because of all of the attention.
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No stars. :) Just ran into her at the airport (along with her family). Nice lady. Looks much smaller in real life. And yes pretty in real life.
What's funny is it was right before the cap "scandal," where she was wearing a cap with McCain's name blacked out. She wound up leaving Maui early because of all of the attention.
LOL!
would you choose Palin, Trump, or the rest of the field, if they were matched up in the GOP Primary?
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LOL!
would you choose Palin, Trump, or the rest of the field, if they were matched up in the GOP Primary?
Ah yes. The twisted mind of a CT nut.
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By January, I will be the #2 Trump fan on getbig. Coach is already #1.
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Trump/palin as a 3rd party ticket would officially be the most hilarious thing in the history of politics.
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Trump/palin as a 3rd party ticket would officially be the most hilarious thing in the history of politics.
yeah.....agreed......I wonder who Hillary will pick for VP
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No, a leader should not state "facts" in any manner he or she chooses. And some of those "fact" are actually opinions. Delivery is important. Context is important. Consensus building is important. Trump's scorched earth approach is really an example of someone who lacks true intelligence. Really smart people know how to get their message across without acting like a donkey.
not really, chris hitchens was known for a barbed tongue, idiocy should not be suffered. Skirting around important issues do to "respect" etc is silly. In business you shoot straight, you tell it like it is, politics is exactly the same.
No one is held accountable.
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not really, chris hitchens was known for a barbed tongue, idiocy should not be suffered. Skirting around important issues do to "respect" etc is silly. In business you shoot straight, you tell it like it is, politics is exactly the same.
No one is held accountable.
Christopher Hitchens wasn't a political leader. There is a huge difference between a social/political commentator and a political leader.
Respect is not silly at all. There is a reason why the vast majority of our leaders don't act like Trump or Anthony Wiener: it's unprofessional, rude, and not very smart. It is possible to be a straight shooter and tell the truth without being a jerk.
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:D
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Christopher Hitchens wasn't a political leader. There is a huge difference between a social/political commentator and a political leader.
Respect is not silly at all. There is a reason why the vast majority of our leaders don't act like Trump or Anthony Wiener: it's unprofessional, rude, and not very smart. It is possible to be a straight shooter and tell the truth without being a jerk.
Disagree. Sometimes doing the opposite of the herd is effective even if it ruffles some feathers.
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Disagree. Sometimes doing the opposite of the herd is effective even if it ruffles some feathers.
I stand by everything I said about leadership, but I was dead wrong about Trump.
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I stand by everything I said about leadership, but I was dead wrong about Trump.
I clicked on this thread earlier
And read the 1st few pages
I was going to ask you about your comments regarding Donald
Having just seen the above
You’re a Good man to stand up & admit you were wrong
And by your own volition.
Respect to you.
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Yes we all know his statements are ignorant and he is somewhat ill-informed on the issues....but I have to admit , shamefully so, that Trump does have some appeal to me and it explains why he's so high in the polls...
He says exactly what he means.....there's no bullshit and no spin doctors.....I was watching an interview with Gov Scott Walker on CNN this Sunday and the interview was frustrating, and infuriating....he wouldn't answer a definitive yes or no to anything and when asked to elaborate he would say "I just did" when he actually didn't.....he changed positions and then claimed he hadn't....
It just struck me that watching interviews with politicians is such a waste of time because they don't say anything substantive.....and the ducking, dodging and weaving is just painful to watch.....
Donald Trump says what he means and means what he says...He's actually a symptom of whats wrong with American politics...I had no problem with what he said about John McCain because McCain has been coasting on his record for years...he hasn't done anything substantive in the senate for years and has wasted the last 7 years criticizing Obama on TV...Trump said that McCain spends all of his time on TV, says nothing and has done nothing for Veterans....
staight to the point..... and probably factual......you don't have to wonder or try to figure out where Trump stands..you KNOW.
My opinion on Trump is softening somewhat but its still a scary thought that he would be president and in charge of our nuclear arsenal :o
There is nothing noble about what Trump is saying. He's an idiot. An inability to control your mouth, especially when you have such a large platform, is not a virtue. He is a joke.
WTF is this? Bizzarro World? How things have changed. :D
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WTF is this? Bizzarro World? How things have changed. :D
Lol.
I read the first post of this thread without reading the date and was astonished that Andre was changing a bit.
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Would love to see her shot out of a cannon across the border into Canada.
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WTF is this? Bizzarro World? How things have changed. :D
:)
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I clicked on this thread earlier
And read the 1st few pages
I was going to ask you about your comments regarding Donald
Having just seen the above
You’re a Good man to stand up & admit you were wrong
And by your own volition.
Respect to you.
Thanks. I was a Never Trumper. I got it wrong.
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WTF is this? Bizzarro World? How things have changed. :D
lol Talk about a 180. lol :D
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Christopher Hitchens wasn't a political leader. There is a huge difference between a social/political commentator and a political leader.
Respect is not silly at all. There is a reason why the vast majority of our leaders don't act like Trump or Anthony Wiener: it's unprofessional, rude, and not very smart. It is possible to be a straight shooter and tell the truth without being a jerk.
I would agree with this. Stay true to the facts but be kind above all.
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I would agree with this. Stay true to the facts but be kind above all.
:o I agree.
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I watch that video and I tell myself, "These are people who really have it together"
"These are people who have a coherent message for America's future.
I went and checked out the video on youtube and it was about what I expected.
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In their heart of hearts leftists know their arguments simply do not stand up.
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