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Started HIT training one set to failure gonna log workouts and experience have been training volume for about a year now with some heavy sets in but now training to true failure on a single set for the excersize.
Chest Tri -first time HIT upper body hit legs Sunday . Starting log today for Monday
20 mins stair machine
Chest felt like 85% so I didn't go low low reps took it kind of easy pec isn't aggravated should b good 100% by next session
Incline dbel press 50s warm up 80s warm up 100s warm up 120s failed at around 15 with training partner got 3 extra decided this was enough weight this week all we have is 140s to go up to next time so may have to include the bar more often because it's gonna take more weight to make me fail
Chest press hammer strength machine 1 2 3 4 plates 4 plates to failure assisted got like 5 extra
Tricep v bar push downs half stack whole stack warm ups then hung an extra 25 and went to failure plus negatives with training partner
Nose breakers 2 sets 2nd set failure plus 1 with spot assistance
Over head tricep extensions 140dbell failed at 12 got 2 extra with assistance
Slow reps on the negatives and explosive positives with good squeezes have to think more and put 100% effort into each set
I really enjoyed this a lot muscles got fully pumped
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120's for 15 reps is damn impressive. I've never even touched the 120's.
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My chest is sore ;D ;D . Next week if my fucking left pectoral is back to 100% I should get the 130-140s in the 7-10range of failure thought about sniffing some ammonia before the failure sets to get all I can out of it?¿ my buddy does this shit lol he moves more weight than Anybody I've ever seen
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A buddy gave me some of those inhalants. I chucked them. I'd become reliant instantly. Bad enough I can't train without stims and nootropics, never mind added stuff like that.
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Lol no shit So tracked macros yesterday decreased fats some today I feel fresh was thinking of going ahead and hitting back also u mayb noticed I changed the split to chest tri I'll flip flop back and forth few weeks here and there . All proteins came from egg whites tilapia ground turkey and newyork strip carbs bananas white rice peanut butter on the bananas woke up lean as normal even with my little but of cardio. So we shall see how this goes.. Any input on diet? I've been doing this for a while and it has been working just never tracked macros for a while adjusted as needed till I got to here obviously calories will go up to gain weight provided I stay lean. Never letting abs disappear is the goal while getting bigger
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diet looks good, I've never needed that much protein and the next caloric reduction should come from there.
You could go lower on carbs on off days. Go lowest day before cheat day to make sure you take in the carbs super effectively on that given day.
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This is high high carbs for me. Appreciate the feedback I don't plan on changing or reducing much I just move carbs around training like u said low days for no training and so on
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10 mins stair machine training partner was early and Needed to hurry he doesn't do cardio and makes fun of me for it then always comments about how lean I am lol
Let him pick the lifts my elbows were sore
Rack deads just below knee cap 6 sets pyramid up a plate each set last set put weight belt on wrist wraps got between 15-20 started get light headed and couldn't pick it up off pins anymore
Good mornings 3x15 not to failure didn't seem right to do this with these
Hyper extensions holding a plate 2x10 3rd set failed at 13 droped plate got 2 more
Lat pull downs close grip underhand 2 warm up sets 1 failure round 12 with some assisted
Barbell Shrugs 2 warm ups 3rd set failure
Decline sit ups 3x15
Different excersize selection than I'm used to was good but I will use different ones next time and also hit biceps giving them a rest this week and also elbows need a little rest I'm getting just as pumped with this training style as volume as well
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Diet exactly the same accept carbs right at 200 and fat little lower.
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strong dude
what are your stats? height, weight, % bodyfat
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I call bullshit on the 15 reps with the 120 pound DB Inclines unless they were 1/4 reps.
Complete Bullshit!!
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U call bullshit? Lol fuck u and get out bitch go skip rope or some other shit. This is a log to see if I can gain faster with HIT vs my traditional volume not to impress you. Believe what u like idgaf. I deal with jealousy a lot I'm used to it helps motivate so I appreciate it bub
Stats 6 ft 215-220 below 10% or right at it.
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Actually I think u r the same mother fucker that got mad the last time i mentioned military pressing 275 for reps when I started posting in the training section and soon stopped because of the gayness
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I call bullshit on the 15 reps with the 120 pound DB Inclines unless they were 1/4 reps.
Complete Bullshit!!
Btw U can't fathom it because u eat 5ounces of meat per sitting my sister eats that
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U call bullshit? Lol fuck u and get out bitch go skip rope or some other shit. This is a log to see if I can gain faster with HIT vs my traditional volume not to impress you. Believe what u like idgaf. I deal with jealousy a lot I'm used to it helps motivate so I appreciate it bub
Stats 6 ft 215-220 below 10% or right at it.
good stuff bro, what's your barbell bench? not 1 rep max but say for 10 reps or so?
and i'll be very curious to see what hit does for you, coz in my own case i never was able to get bigger unless i got stronger and lifted heavier training loads
and what's your split and how often do you train each bodypart?
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I'm hoping it makes me expload with size I did pretty good for a year with volume went from 199lbs to here in one year but I think I can do better...
Barbell bench is now a thing of the past for me I decided. It's the only excersize my tendons can't hold up just wrong angle did it for years now my foundation is the inclune bar! But the other week I hit 315 for 15 or 16 most I've put in the bar is 405 I'm not powerlifting but it's nice to b strong sometimes. Left pec is still a little strained but it'll b good. And I don't bounce or quarter rep shit unless I'm already at failure no sense in short changing my self I spent valuable time away from my kids at gym i dont waste it. This week split is weak looking because basically getting accustomed to the trying style but next week
Legs
Chest tri
Back bi
Shoulder trap
Abs when I remmber to do and calves eod for now they r improving.
I was hitting everything 2-3 times a week depending on how I felt kind of instinct training needed a change and get organized to pack on slabs of lean meat
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that's a strong bench
if train each bodypart every 3-5 days i make better progress than if i train them just once a week
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Yea that's a good time frame....I've been doing to much was striving for conditioning got in great shape and gained weight. Lifting 7-9 times weekly. But hard to maintain low body fat all the Time and joints taking a toll. I will put efforts towards gaining weight and keeping lean I say it a lot so I don't lose track stay lean I fucking hate cutting and am sick of it so I will stay lean! I realize I have to put on some fat to get more density but I will cycle calories for periods of time and see what works best diet always has to change with the body all has to adapt to the environment and I have become pretty decent at allowing those changes.
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good stuff bro, what's your barbell bench? not 1 rep max but say for 10 reps or so?
and i'll be very curious to see what hit does for you, coz in my own case i never was able to get bigger unless i got stronger and lifted heavier training loads
and what's your split and how often do you train each bodypart?
Oh when I did volume I used heavy weights and always tried to increase strength start every workout with a barbell after being warm deadlifts barbell rows squats OHP bench those build mass don't believe look at powerlifters then let one diet correctly them big fuckers carry mass around on them under all that fat.
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i pick a staple exercise for each bodypart, for example, barbell bench for chest, barbell curl for bis and then i do it 1st in my workout and train it heavy attempting to increase training loads on it
then after this staple exercise i do 2 or 3 more exercises for each bodypart but i just pump them and not worry about increasing training loads on them so much
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U call bullshit? Lol fuck u and get out bitch go skip rope or some other shit. This is a log to see if I can gain faster with HIT vs my traditional volume not to impress you. Believe what u like idgaf. I deal with jealousy a lot I'm used to it helps motivate so I appreciate it bub
Stats 6 ft 215-220 below 10% or right at it.
You`re full of shit until you post a clear video of it.
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Actually I think u r the same mother fucker that got mad the last time i mentioned military pressing 275 for reps when I started posting in the training section and soon stopped because of the gayness
Another blatant lie............video will prove it,anyone can make up numbers at least be realistic we`re not all noobs you know.
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Btw U can't fathom it because u eat 5ounces of meat per sitting my sister eats that
I bet I`ve got a better physique than you do and I`m old enough to be youtr father.
Wanna` post pics asshole.
I thought so! ;D
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I'm hoping it makes me expload with size I did pretty good for a year with volume went from 199lbs to here in one year but I think I can do better...
Barbell bench is now a thing of the past for me I decided. It's the only excersize my tendons can't hold up just wrong angle did it for years now my foundation is the inclune bar! But the other week I hit 315 for 15 or 16 most I've put in the bar is 405 I'm not powerlifting but it's nice to b strong sometimes. Left pec is still a little strained but it'll b good. And I don't bounce or quarter rep shit unless I'm already at failure no sense in short changing my self I spent valuable time away from my kids at gym i dont waste it. This week split is weak looking because basically getting accustomed to the trying style but next week
Legs
Chest tri
Back bi
Shoulder trap
Abs when I remmber to do and calves eod for now they r improving.
I was hitting everything 2-3 times a week depending on how I felt kind of instinct training needed a change and get organized to pack on slabs of lean meat
Christ almighty Johnny Jackson does 18 reps with 315............liar!!
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Fabrication Of Peace
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Fabrication Of Peace
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I didn't ask u what johnnie fucking Jackson does pussy go do cross fit
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Aside from this guy Wes who works out a curves mayb? and thinks my mediocre lifts are so profound and never seen before like he saw a fucking Sasquatch pussy mother fucker in here today I hit cardio and biceps
straight bar 2 warm ups one to failure plus 2 think I'll leave the goddamn weight used before dick head tells me what jay cutler uses in my log that I don't give a fuck about anything but my progress in here.
Seated dbell curl one warm up one to failure plus 2
Light ab work
then had sushi
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Someone`s having a meltdown. LOL ;D
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U r tiny for doing this decades sorry mr beef jerky. good conditioning n picture right before a show. Not having a meltdown u called me liar because of something u can not do sorry for u child molester mustache dude. I fucking over head pressed 245 for 9 today now call me a liar again lol that is not an un believable lift for a 220 lb male it's almost my fucking body weight? If u don't belive that then u r just fucking with me if so lol good joke your still a bitch. U look good but I like to look I train even if I wear a thick leather jacket in the winter. now take your old ass back to your thread please fucking annoying bitch u r
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overhead pressing more than bodyweight for reps is cock fucking strong dude
what's your dead and squat like?
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Attempting 6 plates each side of bar with no belt or straps the next deadlift session. Currently I pull 5 plates with a belt on for 5 I've just been stopping at 5 reps mayb could get one or 2 more I've been training with my friend lately who is a powerlifter but enjoys to train alot as well he is very knowledgable about the big 3 lifts and he has qualified for the GpA worlds powerlifting meet in October im helping him stay below 245 lbs he had zero diet knowledge basically, so we hellp each other out. Squat is good I havnt put over 4 plates in the bar in a while but I can get that for 8 on a good day and I squat low as fuck no fake shit
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I can curl my bodyweight for 5 reps
do flyes with the 70`s for 5
Curl the 70`s for 5
etc. etc. All in textbook form.
On the serious side if you inclined those bells in full range of motion,I apologize.
I`m not really a troublemaker.
Sorry bud!! ;)
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I couldn't curl my body weight one rep and do incline flies with 90s for 10 when fresh full ROM this wasn't meant to b a pissing contest.
Apology accepted. But u came off as a jealous asshole on a quest for dominance or some shit havnt decided to continue this log here or not there's another thread with a guy using the pussy attachments on the barbell to squat and I got u in here doing this shit
Back on topic m responding great to this training style i can already tell it was a wise choice I feel way better and honestly belive I was severly over trained for period of time and became used to it.
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how many failure sets do you do per bodypart?
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As of now it's one per excersize with warm up sets basically following the blood and guts routine from YouTube with some variances I use a variety of excersizes or change the split but still use this as the base and not get to far from it to stay structured and moving towards the goal
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that's cool
i've tried both, one set with 3 or 4 exercises or a few failure sets (3-4) with the same exercise and i always got better results doing a few sets with just one exercise
imho some exercises are better than others and the best per bodypart for me are
bi=barbell curl
chest=barbell bench
delt=smith military
legs=smith sqaut
back=barbell row
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Mr. P
Are you training or spoken personally (don't mean on the internet) with someone who has had experience with HIT or following the YT video only?
Do you have a general training partner(s) helping you with the reps? Good spotters can be worth their weight in gold when approaching this type of training. Your weights are very impressive.
Just to note: Wes is a cool guy...sometimes kidding around on GB doesn't transfer very well and can be taken the wrong way. I found that out when first coming on GB. So tend to be more serious, but really not my nature at all. Some guy's really take this stuff way too seriously anyway.
Good Luck.
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i think going to failure is enough, going past is overkill imho
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i think going to failure is enough, going past is overkill imho
Do u mean positive failure? I like to exhaust some of the negative strength as well it's not the same as a negative with 365 lbs in a bench when some one can only max at 350. the negative is performed with the weight that is failed with at 8 or more reps so not less injury chance hopefully. Also the negative portion of a lift is said to b the most important part so exhausting that area some seems to b What I'm doing with these types of routines
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Mr. P
Are you training or spoken personally (don't mean on the internet) with someone who has had experience with HIT or following the YT video only?
Do you have a general training partner(s) helping you with the reps? Good spotters can be worth their weight in gold when approaching this type of training. Your weights are very impressive.
Just to note: Wes is a cool guy...sometimes kidding around on GB doesn't transfer very well and can be taken the wrong way. I found that out when first coming on GB. So tend to be more serious, but really not my nature at all. Some guy's really take this stuff way too seriously anyway.
Good Luck.
I have a pretty regular training partner I also lift with my sister when I can believe it or not she's hardcore she squat 275 a few months ago and worked at hooters lol and there are several pretty decent lifters at my gym that are glad to spot me like I need them to but u can't beat the familiarity u have with a regular training partner they scream at u because they what u r capable of and push u further also u have to work harder if your 125 lbs sister is calling u a pussy lol that's only when i train with her. My regular training partner also powerlifts he has over 550lb bench press and 765 deadlift and like 730 on squat he is competing in the GPA worlds in October needles to say the guy is intense to train with he's only 26 monster. Will start back to log sessions in here now there r people interested in it..
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Do u mean positive failure? I like to exhaust some of the negative strength as well it's not the same as a negative with 365 lbs in a bench when some one can only max at 350. the negative is performed with the weight that is failed with at 8 or more reps so not less injury chance hopefully. Also the negative portion of a lift is said to b the most important part so exhausting that area some seems to b What I'm doing with these types of routines
yeah man, i'm talking about taking the set to positive failure and not pushing past that
forced reps and negatives are too taxing in my opinion, and i'm even on the gear ;D but who knows? maybe i'm just a pussy lol
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yeah man, i'm talking about taking the set to positive failure and not pushing past that
forced reps and negatives are too taxing in my opinion, and i'm even on the gear ;D but who knows? maybe i'm just a pussy lol
going past failure needs to be strategically done. Thing for sure, the week after, you need to adjust accordingly, at least for me. I prefer to do that when I know the next week is either a light week, or 5 days off or something.
Gear does not enhance recovery from the nervous system, so it's normal what you say here.
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I couldn't curl my body weight one rep and do incline flies with 90s for 10 when fresh full ROM this wasn't meant to b a pissing contest.
Apology accepted. But u came off as a jealous asshole on a quest for dominance or some shit havnt decided to continue this log here or not there's another thread with a guy using the pussy attachments on the barbell to squat and I got u in here doing this shit
Back on topic m responding great to this training style i can already tell it was a wise choice I feel way better and honestly belive I was severly over trained for period of time and became used to it.
I won`t bother you again only to offer encouragement.........no thing else.
Again,I was being an asshole and I apologize.
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Saturday 30mins walking treadmill then some stretching
Leg extensions half stack 8 -3/4 stack 10 then whole stack to failure plus 2 assisted fighting the negative
Legpress 5plates 10 rep 7plate 10 rep 9 plates a side got 10 then 2 assisted fighting negative
Hack squat 4plate 10 , 5plate 10, 6plates for 12 then 2 assisted fighting negatives
Leg curl 1set 25s 10 rep, 2set 50lbs 10 3set 75lbs for 8 plus 2 fight the negative
Stiff leg dead lift 225x12 then 405 to failure no negatives strict form I just droped the bar when I failed not sure reps little over 8
Seated calve raise one set to failure rest 10 seconds fail again and again
Legpress calve press one set to failure with 4 assisted negatives
The end
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Sunday 10 mins treadmill 10 mins stair machine legs were sore sore sore
Chest bicep
Incline barbell 135x12 225x10 last set to failure 275x13plus 1 rep
So the chest feels better but being careful and doing slow reps so far so good still taking the reps higher to b safer
Ped tendon felt sore after inclune so just did all other chest really extra slow to avoid sharp pains and the lifts went successful with no further injury or aggravation just have to b careful
Flat dbell press c 100sx10 another with 100s failed at 12.5 lol no spotter this time the guy was on treadmill so I didn't bother him gym was
Almost empty
Hammer strength press machine 3 plates 10 fail set 4 plates 9or 10 forgot
Cable crossover half stack both sets fail set failed around 14
Barbell curl with arm blaster . Bar one set 12 then 25s on it one set at 12 with 2 cheats up and fight the negatives
Dbell scot curls 40s for 9 a side really really tough to get these
Bicep curl plate loaded machine 1set of 8 each side had to use non working hand to assist get the last rep up
3xsets 15 captains chair abs no training partner so wasn't able to achieve a lot of negatives which is fine not to do all the time for me
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any updates on the training brother?
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Training is going excellent can't keep training partners steady so I have been going to failure or rights at it on the excersizes that r safe walking barbell lunges I got to where my legs were wobly and breathing was a problem had to drop bar off back keeping for example but leg press I trained to failure calve raises and extensions and so on u get the idea. I'm getting great results leaning up and not doing much cardio Mayb 20minutes 4x week now calories right at 3500 370-390 grams of protein a day is what it's been coming out too lately.
Started my Own personal training side business and got my master key to pretty nice gym well
Equipped to train clients or hang out and try to get new ones, being nice to people and trying to get some people in shape!! First client starts Monday pretty cool to me so I have been busy I'm thinking after another week mayb mix up the Split some
Chest training is good to ok left peck I can still feel its not 100% but not Injured hard to explain
I put 225 on incline barbell press and so slow negative reps and explosive up very controlled and it feels fine but if I got lose with it I believe it would cause a problem again. But my strength is up on chest If I wasn't worried about injury I could probly incline 315 close to 8 reps definitely 6 but who knows what my chest could take im not going to push it so using lighter weights slower and more controlled and failing at higher reps for chest. My chest has always been a good point for me it doesn't matter what I do it improves or gets stronger.
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Last post in here not enough time To mess with it
Hit works for me will continue end of log
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Progress pic, despite a slight shoulder injury said I wasn't gonna post again but I'm bored AF at work
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Great training!
Please keep updating
:)
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Weighed in @ 228lbs this morning body fat steadily dropping. Cardio 5x week train weights 5x week. Last checked calipers body fat was at 9.06%
Split is currently
M-chest tri /cardio abs
T-back bi/cardio calves
W- quads. Abs mayb
T-shoulder traps/ HIIT Cardio
F- deadlifts hams/cardio calves
Saturday is 35 mins abs only
Sunday off
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If Wes called you out it's simple enough to hand your phone to someone to video tape. I'm always skeptical of any weight posted on a board having been in the gyms for over 40 years. Everyone does half range shoulder presses never going all the way down. Guys do rack deadlifts and think they the weights they post are true deadlift weights. Leg press is half reps to quarter reps with a million pounds on the machine. Squats are shallow. Pullups are never all the way down or all the way up to the point of having the elbows down and bar just about touching the chest. I could go on. What I'm saying is bodybuilders quoting weight used is almost always bs and not like an Olympic lifter. In Olympic lifting you either lift it over head or you don't. Bodybuilding is a sport of cosmetic athletes. I've seen amazing things in the gyms but most guys training are just delusional about what they lift.
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Even though I have been training I haven't posted in awhile.
Today was leg day. Last week I did an hour of fast walking for an hour 6 days in a row in addition to lifting. My legs are fried from this. No warm ups listed.
Leg press 2 x 12 (4 plates a side and a five. Really deep knee bend on this. No shallow leg presses)
squats 2 x 8 225lbs then 1 x 1 260lbs (tried to go really deep but legs were fried from to much cardio and leg press
Machine squat 1 x 10 235 ass to grass as deep as my legs would go (tough stuff machine.)
leg extensions 2 x 20
seated leg curl 2 x 15
standing leg curl 2 x12
Side bend with one dumbbell 1 x 15 90lbs
Hanging leg raise 2 x 22
Hip ups on back 1 x 25
pulley crunches 2 x 25
leg press calf 2 x 25 230lbs
standing calf 1 x 15 leverage machine so weight is meaningless to list
seated calf 2 x 15 90lbs. Tried to go full range every rep. No short hops.
tibealis anterior 1 x 20
neck work 1 x 20 every side. Used a weight helmet.
Finished legs with about 40 minutes of fast walking on a treadmill. Did one lap at zero grade (incline) at 3.8 MPH. Every lap (440 yards) I went up 1 percent grade (incline) till I hit 7 percent grade (incline). Finished with the last lap with zero incline. My legs were rubber doing this after lifting.
Tomorrow I hope to run 5 miles. All this cardio I'm doing is making me feel washed out and little weak but I'm losing fat quick. Lost about 5 pounds in 10 days.