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Title: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: YearsGoneBy on March 03, 2006, 04:29:06 PM
Discounting titles, who do you prefer?  I'm not sure if they ever competed against each other before.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: leannmean on March 04, 2006, 05:45:43 AM
Discounting titles, who do you prefer?  I'm not sure if they ever competed against each other before.

They have quite different body shape. But...I prefer Nubret anytime, fuller rounder muscle bellies, flawless pecs and shoulders cum a super taper. Zane is like a classic statue, no disrespect to him just a matter of personal preference.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: knny187 on March 04, 2006, 11:06:16 AM
Nubret


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: stuntmovie on March 04, 2006, 12:54:52 PM
I've spent some time with both Nubret and Zane in their prime and would have to state that Nubret would probably have beaten Zane in an unprejudiced contest.

But both of them were great in their day.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Gord on March 04, 2006, 04:33:52 PM
Nubret definitely had the better front upper body, but when it comes to legs/calves combo and back Zane probably had the edge.

Both had great lines and balance, tough to call overall.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: flexfan on March 04, 2006, 06:38:16 PM
Nubret. This shouldn't even be seriously considered. It isn't even close.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: knny187 on March 05, 2006, 10:59:28 AM
Nubret. This shouldn't even be seriously considered. It isn't even close.

I agree.

Frank may have had a slight better lower body that Nubret....but the overall physique was Nubret over Zane.



Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: YearsGoneBy on March 05, 2006, 12:08:10 PM
Zane was smaller but his conditioning at the time was nearly unrivaled.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Jr. Yates on March 05, 2006, 12:52:43 PM
Zane was smaller but his conditioning at the time was nearly unrivaled.
yes i agree.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: YearsGoneBy on March 05, 2006, 02:08:41 PM
Bannout at his peak was probably the ideal look.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: body88 on March 11, 2006, 11:49:55 PM
Yep


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 12, 2006, 12:24:00 AM
I'll take Mentzer.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: FREAKgeek on March 12, 2006, 08:14:48 AM
Nubret was only behind Arnold and Sergio


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: kt007 on March 16, 2006, 08:29:05 PM
Nubret for sure but they both were great in their prime.  Zane is about the same as me, except I have better legs.....:)  Definitly not big by todays standards.  Nubret had alot of muscle and was much bigger and one of the alltime best.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: madmullah on March 17, 2006, 01:17:36 AM
nubret had a great upper body but weak legs


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: FREAKgeek on March 17, 2006, 06:14:59 PM
(http://digilander.libero.it/sergenubret/sn94.jpg)


tight waist, good V taper, and an asthetic flow. Traits hard to come by these days.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 17, 2006, 10:37:41 PM
Discounting titles, who do you prefer?  I'm not sure if they ever competed against each other before.

Preferences aside, I can't see Nubret beating Zane at his best in a bodybuilding contest.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Drij on March 18, 2006, 04:31:22 PM
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Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Lord Humungous on March 20, 2006, 04:49:35 AM
Both had unreal builds Zane takes it with better wheels and conditoning but I give Nubret  the nod for upper bodymass and overall muscle belly fullness


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Old-Skool on March 21, 2006, 08:50:34 PM
Years ago when I was a teenager, Nubret spent a week training in Toronto at the gym I trained at. He spent HOURS doing set after set after set after set of the same exercise (ie. single side laterals) with ridiculously light weights (ie. 70 pound barbell curl). I witnessed Bruce Page, a bodybuilding author and historian who wrote for Ironman, tape Nubrets arm after one of these marathon sessions at 21 1/4 " pumped.  Zane never ever approached that size but had a much more complete package.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: HBK on April 04, 2006, 11:42:19 PM
Definitely Serge. Someone put up that pic of him next to Flex Wheeler in a comparison shot-crop. I used to have that as my background pic. The man had an unbelieveable physique for back in the day.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: bmacsys on April 24, 2006, 01:48:20 PM
Zane, maybe a better back, for sure better legs, for sure better conditioning. I don't think Nubret ever competed much in the IFBB besides the Olympia. He won his titles in the NABBA and the WBBG. I think Nubret also looked better relaxed than flexing which I count against him. I think Zane was for sure the better bodybuilder


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: alexxx on April 25, 2006, 02:20:35 PM
judge for yourselves!  :o


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: SDMF on April 25, 2006, 02:47:57 PM
Only one has a victory over Schwarzenegger though


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: knny187 on April 25, 2006, 02:59:26 PM
Only one has a victory over Schwarzenegger though

Was it Frank Zane, Chet Yorton, or Sergio?

 :)


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 25, 2006, 03:13:41 PM
Was it Frank Zane, Chet Yorton, or Sergio?

 :)

1968 Mr. Universe


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Hypertrophy on April 25, 2006, 04:20:46 PM
Man he looks good in that pic. More so than in his Olympia days.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: alexxx on April 25, 2006, 04:27:03 PM
Nubret all the way!


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Gord on April 30, 2006, 03:25:10 AM
 8)


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: DK II on April 30, 2006, 12:35:01 PM
both look absolutely great.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: (nothing) on May 06, 2006, 07:11:36 PM
surge!
zane had him on conditioning and a slight edge on legs. just personal preference surge all the way!


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: pumpster on May 11, 2006, 03:51:06 PM
Nubret was behind only Oliva & Schwarzenegger, and looked the part of a BB, unlike Zane. Both with excellent balance but Nubret was way ahead in size AND shape, even had the edge in aesthetics IMO.

Nubret's still the closest I've seen to a statue; the complete aesthetic package. Bannout & Zane were very good but not in the same sentence. Even today there aren't many that are close.

For aesthetics I'd also put Birdsong over Zane and Bannout.

Here's some good info on Nubret:
http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=13814.0


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Dredlock Rasta on May 12, 2006, 09:26:50 AM
Nubret wins hands down, he had much more fullness and mass than Zane yet he also had a smaller waist.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: onlyme on May 13, 2006, 12:09:37 AM
Nubret was awesome!


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: thor_odin on May 13, 2006, 02:15:51 AM
Nubret was always more juiced up than Frank Zane. If both were totally natural bodybuilders then Nubret would not be in the same league as Zane.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: pumpster on May 13, 2006, 09:10:17 AM
Quote
Nubret was always more juiced up than Frank Zane.
That's a whiny, unfounded accusation. Aesthetics with size, no one can touch Nubret.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: willie mosconi on May 13, 2006, 10:30:07 AM
Why would anybody think Zane was better than Nubret? To me it isn't even close.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: eddiebubble on May 13, 2006, 11:04:15 PM
Here's a fantastic picture of Frank.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: kimo on October 26, 2012, 05:09:44 AM
serge ha d a better chest and better traps than frank . better midsection even . frank has better legs but not that great legs on either man . zane a bit more symmetrical .


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: kimo on October 26, 2012, 07:23:15 AM
frank a better poser . .


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Donny on October 26, 2012, 08:25:15 AM
frank a better poser . .
I would have to agree. Frank Zane was really for me the ideal Olympian Greek ideal. Serge was also an outstanding Bodybuilder but never displayed it like Zane.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: GoneAway on November 11, 2012, 04:54:18 AM
I would have to agree. Frank Zane was really for me the ideal Olympian Greek ideal. Serge was also an outstanding Bodybuilder but never displayed it like Zane.

Arguably, Serge had the better structure but Frank (again, arguably) mastered the art of displaying his structure better. It's apples and apples.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2012, 08:39:04 AM
Arguably, Serge had the better structure but Frank (again, arguably) mastered the art of displaying his structure better. It's apples and apples.
yes both great champions and each had a great..no outstanding physique.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: njflex on November 13, 2012, 09:06:15 AM
yes both great champions and each had a great..no outstanding physique.
YEAH  ,,,ZANE IS ONE OF MY FAV'S LIKE TO FAVOR MY BUILD TO HIS PHILOSPHY,,


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2012, 09:38:00 AM
YEAH  ,,,ZANE IS ONE OF MY FAV'S LIKE TO FAVOR MY BUILD TO HIS PHILOSPHY,,
yes you have developed a very good proportioned physique. very Balanced. size is not everything. It should be symmetrical.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: njflex on November 13, 2012, 09:48:21 AM
yes you have developed a very good proportioned physique. very Balanced. size is not everything. It should be symmetrical.
thank you kind words i love 80/90 bbing have still boxes of mags from that era ....


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2012, 09:56:24 AM
thank you kind words i love 80/90 bbing have still boxes of mags from that era ....
I will not say the Guys today are not "Champions" but when i think of a Frank Zane or Bob Paris..really the difference is like day and night.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: njflex on November 13, 2012, 10:02:22 AM
I will not say the Guys today are not "Champions" but when i think of a Frank Zane or Bob Paris..really the difference is like day and night.
i agree there are some great builds out there but older champs and look were all different not same as today cycle,roll the dice see what developes...they trained back then hard,had unique builds..most are blocks now no shape or no flow,,,


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: jpm101 on November 14, 2012, 08:29:20 AM
Zane and Nubret  (and others of that era) had a harmony of body parts. Muscles of one area seemed to flow and match other parts of their body, in that harmony. Each BB'er had individual characteristics that set them apart from another.

Not a question of Zane vs Nubret, but which type appeals most to you.

Present Pro's resemble cartoon characters, which I think the magazines, book and video producers are forcing on the general BB'ing public. When your a teenager, you might believe it's cool to look like them. As one matures, being honest with yourself, the current Pro's do look a bit ridiculous.  Their health conditions are borderline ER room stat. Only my view but; Judging all this from many personal viewing of them, in the gym and out.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Donny on November 14, 2012, 08:44:45 AM
Zane and Nubret  (and others of that era) had a harmony of body parts. Muscles of one area seemed to flow and match other parts of their body, in that harmony. Each BB'er had individual characteristics that set them apart from another.

Not a question of Zane vs Nubret, but which type appeals most to you.

Present Pro's resemble cartoon characters, which I think the magazines, book and video producers are forcing on the general BB'ing public. When your a teenager, you might believe it's cool to look like them. As one matures, being honest with yourself, the current Pro's do look a bit ridiculous.  Their health conditions are borderline ER room stat. Only my view but; Judging all this from many personal viewing of them, in the gym and out.
I agree 100%. As you get older you are more realistic and Health and well being is more important.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: anthonyclark on November 25, 2012, 05:40:15 PM
Zane had no buisness winning the Olympia,ever his muscles were just too dam small.Ripped!!but small.Nubret anyday!!!


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: Donny on November 26, 2012, 01:24:44 AM
Zane had no buisness winning the Olympia,ever his muscles were just too dam small.Ripped!!but small.Nubret anyday!!!
Frank Zane was a great champion. Frank zane was a great poser too and displayed his outstanding Olympian Physique to itīs fullest. I have wrote before i liked serge nubret too and was also an outstanding bodybuilder. no...for me Zane was unique ..


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: erics on December 30, 2012, 03:55:23 AM
Zane was the better package - more complete and a better poser.

Nubret was incredible, but in fewer poses.

I agree that Zane was just... unique.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: erics on December 30, 2012, 03:58:39 AM
For aesthetics I'd also put Birdsong over Zane and Bannout.

I can accept that Nubret could be considered more aesthetic than Zane and Bannout, but Birdsong? Wow, sorry, but I couldn't disagree more.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: kimo on January 02, 2013, 11:55:13 AM
nubret is now dead and frank is a senior citizen .or close . oh time flies.


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: funk51 on January 02, 2013, 01:52:02 PM
nubret is now dead and frank is a senior citizen .or close . oh time flies.
frank as he looks today


Title: Re: Zane vs. Nubret
Post by: funk51 on January 02, 2013, 01:54:00 PM
serge n was said to lose a little off his waistline every year as he got older.