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This week I noticed after I did leg press that I felt some pain in my lower back whenever I twisted my torso. Also when I bend over, raise my right leg(in the manner of putting pants on or going up stairs) or cough or sneeze, I get a shooting pain in my lower back, and upper right glute, and it wraps around to the side of my right hip flexor area. Anyone have back problems before and know what this could be?
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Did you consult with random guys in the gym? They should be able to help.
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Far out, same last few days. Lower right. Come on, Getbig. Show me what you got.
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Sciatica. Prepare for a lifetime of pain. White widow is a good source of oxy.
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Sorry to hear
In the future stay away from the leg press-it can put a lot of pressure on your low back depending on how tight your hips are
Try improving t spine mobility-using a foam roller
Try using a foam roller, preferably rumble roller on your obliques and smash the tissue with the roller-lot of times tight obliques can contribute to low back issues
U can lay on floor with your feet up on the sofa so your back gets relief, u can also use a softball on your upper glute while staying on your back with feet up on sofa...that upper glute can get very tender
Improve your hip mobility
U can roll a golf ball under your feet to loosen your hamstrings-really dig in with the ball
Sleep on your back with pillow under your upper legs
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Stop using the legpress.
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Sciatica. Prepare for a lifetime of pain. White widow is a good source of oxy.
Sounds more like he just strained a lower back muscle and the inflammation is pinching a nerve.
Sciatica is usually caused by a strain to the Piriformis muscle.
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If it is Sciatica, this is the stretch you want to do once the inflammation subsides.
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Sounds more like he just strained a lower back muscle and the inflammation is pinching a nerve.
Sciatica is usually caused by a strain to the Piriformis muscle.
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I just was looking for an easy way to work white widow in.
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Sorry to hear
In the future stay away from the leg press-it can put a lot of pressure on your low back depending on how tight your hips are
Try improving t spine mobility-using a foam roller
Try using a foam roller, preferably rumble roller on your obliques and smash the tissue with the roller-lot of times tight obliques can contribute to low back issues
U can lay on floor with your feet up on the sofa so your back gets relief, u can also use a softball on your upper glute while staying on your back with feet up on sofa...that upper glute can get very tender
Improve your hip mobility
U can roll a golf ball under your feet to loosen your hamstrings-really dig in with the ball
Sleep on your back with pillow under your upper legs
Interesting insight. Due to some lower back issues, I decided to replace squats by leg presses. No clue what went wrong the days after, but now my hip is hurting, even after performing some hip stretches right after my workout.
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Sciatica is also a warning sign that a disc is about to slip. Tried to manage it for a year before the big bang.
Heavy leg press can also aggrivate disc issues.
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Deadlifts solve all your back problems.
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Had intermittent lower back pain for over 10 years. I handle my lower back with kid gloves. Went to the doctor once for it and they were zero help.
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Lower back health tip: Sleep on a firm mattress.
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Lower back health tip: Sleep on a firm mattress.
Yes.
High quality mattress helps a lot.
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you have aids. pack it up
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Have you considered useing a reverse hyper?
Does anybody have experience with it?
(http://www.westside-barbell.com/images/stories/equipment_images_first_versions/3234b-HI.jpg)
http://www.westside-barbell.com/reverse-hyper/the-history-of-the-reverse-hyper
The History of the Reverse Hyper
In February of 1973 I was making the first of my five elite totals in Toledo, Ohio. I weighed 181 lbs and had just made a 605 lbs squat, 380 lbs bench press and 670 lbs deadlift and a near miss at 700 lbs. It was a top five total world wide. My deadlift was especially strong. I told myself my back was indestructible but just a few months later I found out differently.
While doing bend over good mornings with 435 lbs, I felt and heard something snap. I was in excruciating pain and I barely made it home. That night I slept on the floor, I could not even get up to go to the bathroom. I received help of my wife and my brother-in-law. For the next ten months I was on crutches more times then not. No doctor or therapist could help me. I received a few shots of Cortisone which relieved some pain for a few days before it would return just as severe. I tried everything but no amount of stretching or exercise helped. Everything that had made me strong hurt. I could not squat, do good mornings, and of course deadlifting was out of the question. I never quit trying to do back hyperextensions but like usual they were too painful. Every time I would put pressure with my ankles to lift my upper body it would send pain in my lower back.
I was thinking one day about the problem and how to fix it because no one else was going to. I was thinking about the hyperextensions and the mechanics of doing it. I thought what if it did it in reverse? I built a platform in my power rack to support my torso while my leg hung down behind me. I would swing my legs under my body as far as possible and then tighten my glutes with my legs straight. I raised them to the rear upward to close to parallel to the floor and low and behold no pain. I did a few reps and on each rep I gained more and more range of motion but better yet, no pain! I hoped I was on to something and I was. It pumped up my back with blood and yes, no pain. I knew the low back is mostly ligaments and tendons. They have poor circulation and need high reps and often to be straightened.
The exercise was the reverse of a hyperextension so I called it a Reverse Hyperextension® today a United States trademark.
With back pain you need traction as well as straightening. While lowering the feet under the body especially past 90 degrees there is traction. The exercise built the abdominal muscles making the hamstrings more flexible while stretching the hip flexors. So this is a marvelous exercise to build the back, glutes and hamstrings while decompressing the spine. If you look at the mechanics of the lumbar disc region you will see that while lowering the legs. This reduces the load on the intraverbal disks while rehydrating the disks. By lying on your stomach and flexing it on the upward to the rear motion you are greatly reducing the pressure on the spine by Intra-abdominal pressure (IAP). This duplicates the action of lifting a weight. First flex the abs, then the lower back, hamstrings and glutes.
In 1983, I suffered a L5 fracture the surgeon wanted to fuse my back remove two disks and remove bone spurs. I said no thanks. I did acupuncture, acupressure, stretched and Reverse Hypers® to fully recover. In 1973, I was 26 years old and in 2000, I was 52 years old and squatted 920 lbs at 235lbs bodyweight the first to do over 50. At 57 years I deadlifted 715 lbs at 217 bodyweight and today at 62 years old my lifts are as strong as ever. I was watching Larry Byrd playing and hearing him say he was retiring because of a bad back. It prompted me to seek a U.S. patent to make it available to everyone.
Most of the NFL teams have the Reverse Hyper® plus so many colleges and high schools, I can't count all of them. It is especially useful in the rehab and chiropractic centers to strengthen the back and decompressing the spine to stay young. The Reverse Hyper® can be used and should be used for any age. The low back must be strong at an early age. What will stop you when you are older started when you were younger. If you want to stay strong as you age like I did, the Reverse Hyper® is the answer.
Louie Simmons
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This week I noticed after I did leg press that I felt some pain in my lower back whenever I twisted my torso. Also when I bend over, raise my right leg(in the manner of putting pants on or going up stairs) or cough or sneeze, I get a shooting pain in my lower back, and upper right glute, and it wraps around to the side of my right hip flexor area. Anyone have back problems before and know what this could be?
So, you have crappy technique at the leg press? Isn't it quite painful to find it out like you did? Your problem is in your flexibility, or to be more accurate, in the lack of the flexibility. The most common mistake is this: When you lower the sledge of the leg press, your lower back start to bend towards the weight, because your gluteus and hamstrings are too tight. You are probably using more than you really can lift with the good form, so you can blame yourself about it. Those reverse hypers what Rammstein recommend would be best possible rehab for this injury, but you should be careful and start without any weight, and keeping reps over 40 reps. It is annoying injury, but it heals quite quickly until you do same mistake again. If you learn the proper form to do leg presses, it would be easiest way to prevent this kind of problems. Here you have an example how to do proper set of leg presses:
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Have you considered useing a reverse hyper?
Does anybody have experience with it?
(http://www.westside-barbell.com/images/stories/equipment_images_first_versions/3234b-HI.jpg)
http://www.westside-barbell.com/reverse-hyper/the-history-of-the-reverse-hyper
i love the reverse hyper
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Before you think about doing something like reverse hyper, start with a routine exercises for strengthening of the interior muscles along the lower part of spine and abdominal muscles. Those are exercises that people use after disc herniation or post-op on disc hernia. You want to keep the spine in neutral position throughout the whole exercise and the lower part of RH movement breaks that similar to what you get at full squat/leg press:
Controlled movement is key, avoid rotations of the spine and explosive movements. One arm dumbbell rows are a no go also because you twist the spine again in lumbar area. Coach warned about rotations of the spine and he is one hundred percent right. If you don˙t believe it, just check track&field, weightlifting, ski jumping, skiing,... loads of disc herniations, problems.
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Before you think about doing something like reverse hyper, start with a routine exercises for strengthening of the interior muscles along the lower part of spine and abdominal muscles. Those are exercises that people use after disc herniation or post-op on disc hernia. You want to keep the spine in neutral position throughout the whole exercise and the lower part of RH movement breaks that similar to what you get at full squat/leg press:
Controlled movement is key, avoid rotations of the spine and explosive movements. One arm dumbbell rows are a no go also because you twist the spine again in lumbar area. Coach warned about rotations of the spine and he is one hundred percent right. If you don˙t believe it, just check track&field, weightlifting, ski jumping, skiing,... loads of disc herniations, problems.
Damn it. I have had some low back pain and did stupid one-arm DB rows today. Didn't use crazy weight, but I could def feel the torque. Never again. Thanks.
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Damn it. I have had some low back pain and did stupid one-arm DB rows today. Didn't use crazy weight, but I could def feel the torque. Never again. Thanks.
i would sub these for one arm rowing or bent over rows..
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This week I noticed after I did leg press that I felt some pain in my lower back whenever I twisted my torso. Also when I bend over, raise my right leg(in the manner of putting pants on or going up stairs) or cough or sneeze, I get a shooting pain in my lower back, and upper right glute, and it wraps around to the side of my right hip flexor area. Anyone have back problems before and know what this could be?
Do you foam roll? stretch?
it's your piriformis, go get it frictioned.... warning you will throw up or cry it's a deep muscle and it's gonna hurt like hell?
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Have you considered useing a reverse hyper?
Does anybody have experience with it?
(http://www.westside-barbell.com/images/stories/equipment_images_first_versions/3234b-HI.jpg)
http://www.westside-barbell.com/reverse-hyper/the-history-of-the-reverse-hyper
if your gym doesnt have one you can ghetto it up on the ghr
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if your gym doesnt have one you can ghetto it up on the ghr
My gym is my home gym. I have a GHR and have been doing reverse hypers on it but it just doesn't feel the same. Therefore I am considering getting a proper reverse hyper.
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This week I noticed after I did leg press that I felt some pain in my lower back whenever I twisted my torso. Also when I bend over, raise my right leg(in the manner of putting pants on or going up stairs) or cough or sneeze, I get a shooting pain in my lower back, and upper right glute, and it wraps around to the side of my right hip flexor area. Anyone have back problems before and know what this could be?
getting older
weak midsection
using too much weight
improper form
body is sick/stressed
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oh no, you started to do bodybuilding?
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Nerve problems result from pressure on it most commonly from disc herniation/protrusion. As I was told, the disc itself doesn`t get nutrients through veins since there aren`t any there - movement of the body/spine brings them in.
You don`t want to stress the back right after you get up also because the discs are most hydrated after sleep and the chance of injury is higher.
Best to consult someone from the medical field if the problem persists or is chronic, guessing game never works.
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(http://www.mayfieldclinic.com/Images/PE-HerniatedLumbar_Figure2a.jpg)
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What causes degenerative disc disease?
As we age, our spinal discs break down, or degenerate, which may result in degenerative disc disease in some people.
These changes are more likely to occur in people who smoke cigarettes and those who do heavy physical work (such as repeated heavy lifting).
http://www.webmd.com/back-pain/tc/degenerative-disc-disease-topic-overview
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This week I noticed after I did leg press that I felt some pain in my lower back whenever I twisted my torso. Also when I bend over, raise my right leg(in the manner of putting pants on or going up stairs) or cough or sneeze, I get a shooting pain in my lower back, and upper right glute, and it wraps around to the side of my right hip flexor area. Anyone have back problems before and know what this could be?
i experienced the exact same thing and it was unbearable pain for some days then it gradually went.. since then i have stopped doing heavy leg press or deadlifts.. i dont have any pain after but i feel my lower back is not as before.. it has become sensitive to any tough exercise :(.. ironically squats is still fine with me even when i go heavy!!..
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most people don't even properly activate their abs and obliques when doing leg presses, this lowers your range of motion and puts more stress on your back, same with deadlift, squat, lunges you name it ...
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most people don't even properly activate their abs and obliques when doing leg presses, this lowers your range of motion and puts more stress on your back, same with deadlift, squat, lunges you name it ...
Agreed.
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Leg press can be hard on the lower back.
Make sure the angle of the back rest is not too low to the ground and that your back is lying straight up against it without any arch or gap.
Personally, I have found going lighter with slower reps and increased range of motion has been better for results anyway.