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Title: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: James on February 15, 2016, 12:58:32 PM
On his Monday show, conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh speculated on what led Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump to take the type of tack he took in Saturday's debate on CBS, particularly as he attacked former President George W. Bush and commended Planned Parenthood for its non-abortion services.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/02/15/limbaugh-establishment-trying-to-rig-debates-to-humiliate-and-embarrass-cruz-trump/
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2016, 01:03:16 PM
Well they should be trying to do whatever they can to get rid of Trump. 
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: 240 is Back on February 15, 2016, 02:07:16 PM
Well they should be trying to do whatever they can to get rid of Trump. 

i hate trump, I think he's a liberal plant... BUT...

Isn't it funny that YOU  are willing to completely dismiss the democratic process - let the RNC wreck Trump by any means - because you personally hate the candidate? 

Reminds me of ron paul getting the shaft at the convention in the name of 'unity' - and now trump may use those very same rules to secure the nomination ;)
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 15, 2016, 02:46:34 PM
Well they should be trying to do whatever they can to get rid of Trump. 

Did you find Trump's comments about the towers to be unfair?
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: 240 is Back on February 15, 2016, 03:49:09 PM
Did you find Trump's comments about the towers to be unfair?

LOL @ Rubio blaming Bill Clinton for 911 because he didn't kill bin laden for Bush.

Maybe we should go back and hate on JFK for not dropping a JDAM on bin laden when he was 2 years old?

face it - once a prez takes over - and has time to freakin' GOLF - the attacks on his watch 300 days later are just that - on his watch.
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2016, 03:50:15 PM
Did you find Trump's comments about the towers to be unfair?

I don't know if "unfair" is the right word.  They were dumb, wrong, and right out of the Democrat playbook. 
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 15, 2016, 03:53:22 PM
I don't know if "unfair" is the right word.  They were dumb, wrong, and right out of the Democrat playbook. 

But not unfair?
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2016, 04:25:14 PM
But not unfair?

I just said that isn't a word I would use.  What difference does it make?  It was wrong.  He was wrong. 
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 15, 2016, 04:46:38 PM
I just said that isn't a word I would use.  What difference does it make?  It was wrong.  He was wrong. 

If you say it was wrong, I suppose that means you won't agree it was fair.

Meaning that you do think it was unfair, but part of you understands you can't come out and say that because you know you can't defend it.

It's fine.  I won't say another thing about it.
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2016, 04:49:41 PM
If you say it was wrong, I suppose that means you won't agree it was fair.

Meaning that you do think it was unfair, but part of you understands you can't come out and say that because you know you can't defend it.

It's fine.  I won't say another thing about it.

What?  lol  Ok.  Whatever.  I said he was wrong.  Meaning his comments were factually incorrect.  And that he was spouting liberal talking points.  What the heck are you talking about?? 
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 15, 2016, 04:52:56 PM
What?  lol  Ok.  Whatever.  I said he was wrong.  Meaning his comments were factually incorrect.  And that he was spouting liberal talking points.  What the heck are you talking about?? 

His comments about the towers?  How so?
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2016, 04:57:32 PM
His comments about the towers?  How so?

George Bush didn't fail to keep us safe.  He was not responsible for the 9/11 attack. Those were carried about by Al Qaeda.  Foreign terrorists were responsible for that attack.  Trying to lay the blame for those attacks on Bush is nothing more than a liberal talking point. 
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 15, 2016, 05:00:37 PM
George Bush didn't fail to keep us safe.  He was not responsible for the 9/11 attack. Those were carried about by Al Qaeda.  Foreign terrorists were responsible for that attack.  Trying to lay the blame for those attacks on Bush is nothing more than a liberal talking point. 

The complaint at hand isn't whether he was "responsible" for the act.
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2016, 05:03:11 PM
The complaint at hand isn't whether he was "responsible" for the act.

What complaint are you talking about?
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 15, 2016, 05:06:12 PM
What complaint are you talking about?

The one that Trump raised, and the same one that you just referred to.
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2016, 05:08:04 PM
The one that Trump raised, and the same one that you just referred to.

Do you know what Trump said?
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 15, 2016, 05:11:20 PM
Do you know what Trump said?

He said that Bush did not keep us safe.
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2016, 05:13:39 PM
He said that Bush did not keep us safe.

Trump: How did he keep us safe when the World Trade Center . . . The World — I lost hundreds of friends. The World Trade Center came down . . . during the reign. He kept us safe? That’s not safe. That is not safe.

In other words, George Bush failed to prevent the 9/11 attack, i.e., it's his fault the attacks happened.  According to Trump.  And liberal hacks everywhere.   
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 15, 2016, 05:22:25 PM
Trump: How did he keep us safe when the World Trade Center . . . The World — I lost hundreds of friends. The World Trade Center came down . . . during the reign. He kept us safe? That’s not safe. That is not safe.

In other words, George Bush failed to prevent the 9/11 attack, i.e., it's his fault the attacks happened.  According to Trump.  And liberal hacks everywhere.   

The complaint is that he did not keep us safe.  We were not kept safe, to say the absolute bare least on the matter.  Not by a million miles, were we kept safe, despite a flood of Intelligence and resources that gave him every tool imaginable to keep us safe.

If you didn't like that exchange in the debate, then your beef is with Jeb for being so clueless as to even raise the subject.  But that says a lot about his state of delusion, and why he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the White House.
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2016, 05:32:53 PM
The complaint is that he did not keep us safe.  We were not kept safe, to say the absolute bare least on the matter.  Not by a million miles, were we kept safe, despite a flood of Intelligence and resources that gave him every tool imaginable to keep us safe.

If you didn't like that exchange in the debate, then your beef is with Jeb for being so clueless as to even raise the subject.  But that says a lot about his state of delusion, and why he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the White House.

The complaint was absolute B.S. 

I didn't like the exchange because Trump is a tool.  He is an embarrassment.  He shouldn't be on the stage.  He shouldn't sniff the White House. 
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 15, 2016, 05:39:58 PM
The complaint was absolute B.S.  

I didn't like the exchange because Trump is a tool.  He is an embarrassment.  He shouldn't be on the stage.  He shouldn't sniff the White House.  

You're more offended by words that Trump says, than the failures to keep us safe?
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2016, 05:43:30 PM
You're more offended by words that Trump says, than the failures to keep us safe?

I'm offended by the fact this joke of a candidate is dominating the news coverage, dumbing down the entire process, and making a mockery of the primaries.  He is every bit the empty suit President Obama is when it comes to politics. 
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 15, 2016, 05:52:39 PM
I'm offended by the fact this joke of a candidate is dominating the news coverage, dumbing down the entire process, and making a mockery of the primaries.  He is every bit the empty suit President Obama is when it comes to politics. 

Rubio reminds me so much of Obama, it's not even funny.
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2016, 06:18:20 PM
Rubio reminds me so much of Obama, it's not even funny.

Not me.  But then again you like Trump . . . .
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 15, 2016, 06:20:27 PM
Not me.  But then again you like Trump . . . .

Are you disturbed about his role in immigration?
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: 240 is Back on February 15, 2016, 06:36:53 PM
George Bush failed to prevent the 9/11 attack

Good call.   Accurate call, bro.
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2016, 06:46:56 PM
Good call.   Accurate call, bro.

Oh that's so funny.   ::)
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2016, 06:47:39 PM
Are you disturbed about his role in immigration?

I like the fact he highlighted the illegal immigration problem. 
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 15, 2016, 06:51:05 PM
I like the fact he highlighted the illegal immigration problem. 

By legitimizing the practice of it, as he did?
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: polychronopolous on February 15, 2016, 07:10:30 PM
What's this need to bash Trump because he was opposed to the Iraq war and didn't care for George W?

I would guess that for a lot of voters his stance on immigration, trade and his willing to fight the establishment so many are disenfranchised with outweighs his thoughts on the War/Bush.

And isn't he kind of right when he says that George W gave us Obama??
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 15, 2016, 07:22:24 PM
What's this need to bash Trump because he was opposed to the Iraq war and didn't care for George W?

I would guess that for a lot of voters his stance on immigration, trade and his willing to fight the establishment so many are disenfranchised with outweighs his thoughts on the War/Bush.

And isn't he kind of right when he says that George W gave us Obama??

I'm sure that's true.
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2016, 08:12:38 PM
By legitimizing the practice of it, as he did?

What?
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2016, 08:13:54 PM
What's this need to bash Trump because he was opposed to the Iraq war and didn't care for George W?

I would guess that for a lot of voters his stance on immigration, trade and his willing to fight the establishment so many are disenfranchised with outweighs his thoughts on the War/Bush.

And isn't he kind of right when he says that George W gave us Obama??

I'm bashing Trump because he is an immature, loudmouthed narcissist who lacks political substance. 
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: 240 is Back on February 15, 2016, 09:14:08 PM
I'm bashing Trump because he is an immature, loudmouthed narcissist who lacks political substance. 

well, he's the GOP frontrunner.   He represents the views of the most republicans.   Sorry, maybe not you, but this IS the case.

As I predicted the moment he entered... the repubs will fall in love with his celebrity, abandon their "belief system", and choose him overwhelmingly.
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: James on February 16, 2016, 06:42:36 AM
I like the fact he highlighted the illegal immigration problem. 

You are beyond help if you think that is what Rubio did with his Gang of Eight Amnesty Bill.
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 16, 2016, 07:08:08 AM
What?

Isn't that what he's been working to do?
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: 240 is Back on February 16, 2016, 08:38:27 AM
You are beyond help if you think that is what Rubio did with his Gang of Eight Amnesty Bill.

dos equis is a new republican that NEEDS a hero.   

However, this Hero cannot be too conservative ;)
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 16, 2016, 09:03:38 AM
You are beyond help if you think that is what Rubio did with his Gang of Eight Amnesty Bill.

?   We are talking about Trump. 
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 16, 2016, 09:04:49 AM
Isn't that what he's been working to do?

What are you talking about?  How is Trump working to "legitimize" illegal immigration?
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 16, 2016, 09:08:02 AM
What are you talking about?  How is Trump working to "legitimize" illegal immigration?

No, DE.  Rubio.
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 16, 2016, 09:15:04 AM
No, DE.  Rubio.

We were talking about Trump.
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 16, 2016, 09:16:56 AM
We were talking about Trump.

No.  We were talking about Rubio being similar to Obama.
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 16, 2016, 09:18:17 AM
But it's early in Hawaii, so you're forgiven.
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 16, 2016, 09:18:22 AM
No.  We were talking about Rubio being similar to Obama.

What we have is a failure to communicate.  
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 16, 2016, 09:19:07 AM
What we have is a failure to communicate.  

My staff is responsible for this.  Not me.
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Dos Equis on February 16, 2016, 09:31:44 AM
My staff is responsible for this.  Not me.

You need new staff. 
Title: Re: Limbaugh: "Establishment" Trying To "Humiliate And Embarrass",Cruz,Trump
Post by: Las Vegas on February 16, 2016, 09:34:19 AM
You need new staff. 

They failed at keeping you on your toes, yes.  Our discussion became lost due to that.