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Title: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on February 22, 2016, 08:48:06 AM
it's nice that spring training has arrived, and hope springs eternal.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: ritch on February 22, 2016, 10:44:10 AM
I "came"' in here hoping to see pics of hot sexy males.
Disappointing thread title of non peace...


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: funk51 on February 24, 2016, 10:47:13 AM
I "came"' in here hoping to see pics of hot sexy males.
Disappointing thread title of non peace...

here you go ritch, you can see pabloat sandoval aka fat panda takes his off season conditioning seriously.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on February 28, 2016, 06:20:32 PM
John Henry said he was 17% body fat the other day.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: funk51 on February 29, 2016, 12:56:23 PM
John Henry said he was 17% body fat the other day.
::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: njflex on March 01, 2016, 06:06:13 AM
John Henry said he was 17% body fat the other day.
maybe he was measuring in MILK FAT..


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: funk51 on March 04, 2016, 10:27:11 AM
good book , used to have it but lost it along the way. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: dr.chimps on March 12, 2016, 07:32:13 AM
good book , used to have it buy lost it along the way. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Super book. My fave is Jim Bouton's Ball Four. Serious classic.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: funk51 on March 24, 2016, 07:21:05 AM
Super book. My fave is Jim Bouton's Ball Four. Serious classic.
i've got an autographed copy of ball four..


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: dr.chimps on March 31, 2016, 01:04:50 PM
i've got an autographed copy of ball four..
Amazing! Good for you! I keep looking for the same, but all the copies I see are inscribed, in poor condition (endemic to book), or library copies. I will find one.  :)


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on April 02, 2016, 07:57:17 AM
The season starts tomorrow!

So let's see some predictions ...

AL East
Blue Jays
Red Sox
Rays
Yankees
Orioles


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: njflex on April 02, 2016, 08:33:03 AM
The season starts tomorrow!

So let's see some predictions ...

AL East
Blue Jays
Red Sox
Rays
Yankees
Orioles
yankess if it all comes together will be fine.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on April 02, 2016, 09:28:44 AM
yankess if it all comes together will be fine.

that can be said for two-thirds of the teams in baseball.



Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on April 02, 2016, 10:12:49 AM
The season starts tomorrow!

So let's see some predictions ...

AL East
Blue Jays
Red Sox
Rays
Yankees
Orioles

I don't get the sox love at ALL.  Horrid corner IF, one SP and a closer.   Price/Kimbrel don't equate to15+ win improvement.  NY was way better than Boston last year, and got better too with their bullpen being possibly the best 7-8-9 ever.   Toronto's line up is INSANE, but their pitching is suspect at best.

NY
Toronto
Tampa
Boston
Baltimore

Now, Mr. Joad, the real answer I need from you is:  Will Storn replace Osuna as closer?  I want to pick him up off waivers if you think this is a likely scenario.



Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on April 02, 2016, 12:24:22 PM
very rarely does "it all come together" for a team over 162 games.
Boston in 2013 is an example of when it did.
last year, for example, AL teams used an average of 10 different starting pitchers.
it's a war of attrition.
the Jays have 8 viable starting pitchers.
while the pitching ain't elite, the team defence is.
the gap between the Jays offense last year over the 2nd best offensive team (the Yankees) has not been seen since the '27 Yankees.
I don't think the Yankees will suck.  They're not a below .500 team.  
But (gun to head) i'd put three teams in the East finishing above them.
The Yankees ain't even "all in" this year.  
(I think they're the only team that didn't sign a FA in the off season ... Biding their time for Harper etc.)

yes, the Yankees have the 7th, 8th & 9th locked down, but how many more additional wins is that?
how many games did NY blow when leading in the late innings last year?

Osuna being named closer surprised many.  
I wouldn't count on Storen replacing Osuna as closer anytime soon.
But, of course, IF Osuna stumbles (his leash won't be that long,) Storen will get save opportunities.
So ... in other words ... who knows?  :)


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on April 02, 2016, 02:48:08 PM
Yankees don't need to be "all in".

They improved at 2b, improved their already dynamic bullpen.   Gregarious shouldn't have the 1st half adjustment disaster he had last year, and Severino is more seasoned.  It's about SP health with them.   If they stay healthy, the have the best SP and bullpen in the AL East.  And their lineup isn't horrid.

Toronto is counting on Happ and Dickey, and need Strohman to be the real deal.  I see it between those two teams.

Maybe I'm wrong about Boston, but I've called them in last place the past two years, despite  the media feeling obligated to say how good they're going to be each year.

I see them in 4th, 3rd at best.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on April 02, 2016, 03:35:00 PM
Dickey is Dickey ... he's thrown 200+ innings for 5 consecutive seasons.  Happ's just the 4th-5th starter.  The wild card in the rotation is Aaron Sanchez.  Stroman's a stud ... time will tell if he becomes a true ace. David Price himself said that had he returned to Toronto he wouldn't have been top dog.  :)

well, i'm rooting for Boston to finish last again haha

I have MLBTV this season and so i'll be watching a helluva lot of Red Sox games & Yankees games too.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on April 03, 2016, 02:44:32 PM
Dickey is Dickey ... he's thrown 200+ innings for 5 consecutive seasons.  Happ's just the 4th-5th starter.  The wild card in the rotation is Aaron Sanchez.  Stroman's a stud ... time will tell if he becomes a true ace. David Price himself said that had he returned to Toronto he wouldn't have been top dog.  :)

well, i'm rooting for Boston to finish last again haha

I have MLBTV this season and so i'll be watching a helluva lot of Red Sox games & Yankees games too.

MLBTV is a fantastic product - even better if you have it on an iPAD - you can swipe in out for real time stats, splits, etc.....can see a lot of video highlights very quickly.  They did just an awesome job with this since it debuted.

Stroman NEEDS to be an ace, or close to it.  But he's never thrown more than 130 IP,  and it's tough for a 24 year old to be expected to lead an MLB staff.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on April 04, 2016, 07:28:55 AM
MLBTV is a fantastic product - even better if you have it on an iPAD - you can swipe in out for real time stats, splits, etc.....can see a lot of video highlights very quickly.  They did just an awesome job with this since it debuted.

Stroman NEEDS to be an ace, or close to it.  But he's never thrown more than 130 IP,  and it's tough for a 24 year old to be expected to lead an MLB staff.

yeah, I've got MLBTV on my iPad and love it.  
I chromecast games onto my big screen TV when i'm at home and wife is watching too.

We disagree with Stroman needing to be an Ace this season.
Toronto's offense is so elite.
Defense up the middle probably is the best in baseball.
Pen is solid (doesn't have the flashy names but it won't be a weakness.)
Hence, IF the Jays have a "2", a couple of "3s"' and a "4", plus many legitimate "#5" options (for depth)
I believe they're playoff bound.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on April 13, 2016, 05:10:15 AM
I'd like to officially thank Toronto for trading Syndergaard the fuck out of the AL East.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on April 14, 2016, 06:11:44 PM
I'd like to officially thank Toronto for trading Syndergaard the fuck out of the AL East.

yep, that Syndergaard & d'Arnaud for Dickey deal is difficult for Jays fans to digest, but the same dude who dealt away Thor took prime JD (with 4 years of control) off of Billy Beane's hands.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on April 15, 2016, 05:38:02 AM
yep, that Syndergaard & d'Arnaud for Dickey deal is difficult for Jays fans to digest, but the same dude who dealt away Thor took prime JD (with 4 years of control) off of Billy Beane's hands.

That is a great point.

I know NY unsuccessfully tried to get JD.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: dr.chimps on April 16, 2016, 04:29:22 AM
Dickey is Dickey ... he's thrown 200+ innings for 5 consecutive seasons.  Happ's just the 4th-5th starter.  The wild card in the rotation is Aaron Sanchez.  Stroman's a stud ... time will tell if he becomes a true ace. David Price himself said that had he returned to Toronto he wouldn't have been top dog.  :)

well, i'm rooting for Boston to finish last again haha

I have MLBTV this season and so i'll be watching a helluva lot of Red Sox games & Yankees games too.
Dickey never fails to fail. Guy is useless, unless it is it hot, the dome open, or whatever...Unload him, but who would take him? Last Sat when I heard who was pitching...fawk. Guy just hurts the team.   


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Powerlift66 on May 04, 2016, 07:00:17 AM
here you go ritch, you can see pabloat sandoval aka fat panda takes his off season conditioning seriously.

Fat fucking Panda... Out for the year now (Good)... if he's 17% body fat, I'm at around 2%  ::)


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on May 07, 2016, 05:28:03 AM
I'm not a Papi fan and always root for the Red Sox to lose, but that was a brutal ump show in the Bronx last night.  MLB should bring in an automated strike zone FFS.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on May 07, 2016, 07:04:40 AM
I'm not a Papi fan and always root for the Red Sox to lose, but that was a brutal ump show in the Bronx last night.  MLB should bring in an automated strike zone FFS.

Live, the strike 2 call looked horrendous.    Replay, especially the overhead, actually made it look like a strike.  BUT, Ortiz should have been ejected for arguing balls and strikes either way, and not even got to strike 3.

Either way, I was just reading the predictions we did.  I could easily be 100% wrong.   Yankees have been putrid - everything is going wrong.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on May 07, 2016, 07:16:32 AM
Live, the strike 2 call looked horrendous.    Replay, especially the overhead, actually made it look like a strike.  BUT, Ortiz should have been ejected for arguing balls and strikes either way, and not even got to strike 3.

Either way, I was just reading the predictions we did.  I could easily be 100% wrong.   Yankees have been putrid - everything is going wrong.

any chance they deal like a Chapman at the deadline or is Cashman not allowed to go in seller mode?


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on May 07, 2016, 08:03:06 AM
any chance they deal like a Chapman at the deadline or is Cashman not allowed to go in seller mode?

If they are toast by the deadline, he should absolutely do that, and your team should be all in on it.

You could argue Miller as a well.

Yankees need Harper more than any other team.

By the way -  pitch #5 was the one that they all went nuts about:

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Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on May 15, 2016, 04:47:13 PM
Joey Bautista was just the recipient of one of the greatest baseball punches I've ever seen.   Adrian Beltre saved his ass.


At the 3 min mark.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/178354174/bautista-odor-spark-blue-jays-rangers-fracas


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: CalvinH on May 16, 2016, 04:22:40 AM
Joey Bautista was just the recipient of one of the greatest baseball punches I've ever seen.   Adrian Beltre saved his ass.


At the 3 min mark.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/178354174/bautista-odor-spark-blue-jays-rangers-fracas


Dude has a strong jaw.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: funk51 on May 16, 2016, 04:55:49 AM
Joey Bautista was just the recipient of one of the greatest baseball punches I've ever seen.   Adrian Beltre saved his ass.


At the 3 min mark.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/178354174/bautista-odor-spark-blue-jays-rangers-fracas
that's exactly what i said when i saw it.. beltre saved joey b the embarrassment of a major ass kicking.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on July 07, 2016, 11:48:56 AM
With the all star break nearly here and the Bombers currently 5 games back in the wildcard, do you Yankees fans want Cashman to be a seller or buyer or to stand pat with this squad?  Who would you like to see shopped?


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: njflex on July 07, 2016, 01:17:57 PM
With the all star break nearly here and the Bombers currently 5 games back in the wildcard, do you Yankees fans want Cashman to be a seller or buyer or to stand pat with this squad?  Who would you like to see shopped?
i'm torn being a yankee fan,
I like didi and starling castro

I like headley as a clubhouse /team guy but man his numbers suck,he's inching to repectable lately

arod/tex are like watching 2 guys running in mud...

gardner/ellsbury need to wake up and be a solid 1/2 punch up top or one has to go....

pitching has been pretty good/bullpen is really good,some hiccups but still solid..

they are yrs away from being the 'Bronx bombers 'again sad as a fan to see after 1995/2010 2011 ?12/13/14  :-X..

and godbless carlos beltran he has been superb...


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on July 11, 2016, 09:22:25 AM
i'm torn being a yankee fan,
I like didi and starling castro

I like headley as a clubhouse /team guy but man his numbers suck,he's inching to repectable lately

arod/tex are like watching 2 guys running in mud...

gardner/ellsbury need to wake up and be a solid 1/2 punch up top or one has to go....

pitching has been pretty good/bullpen is really good,some hiccups but still solid..

they are yrs away from being the 'Bronx bombers 'again sad as a fan to see after 1995/2010 2011 ?12/13/14  :-X..

and godbless carlos beltran he has been superb...

kinda sucks for Cashman to have the Yanks climb to .500 at the break and still on the cusp of the WC race.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: njflex on July 11, 2016, 09:31:24 AM
kinda sucks for Cashman to have the Yanks climb to .500 at the break and still on the cusp of the WC race.
YEAH,,HARD TO SAY SELL THE FARM OR TRADE AWAY FOR NEXT YR..YANKEES HAVE ONLY RECENTLY FELL INTO THIS KIND OF LOSING CLUBS .


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on July 11, 2016, 11:33:44 AM
kinda sucks for Cashman to have the Yanks climb to .500 at the break and still on the cusp of the WC race.

Most Yankee fans I know want them to lose so the front office has no choice but to sell players.

Could get great returns for Miller / Chapman, and maybe something decent for a Beltran/McCann/Garnder.

Then, let the kids play.

The thing is, if Severino / Pineda were anywhere close to where the Yankees thought they were, they'd be five games better.   Almost glad they're not, because they got exposed.

They need to reload, then spend goobers of $$ on Harper and Machado.   That would make the great again for 2019+


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on July 12, 2016, 08:21:52 AM
Most Yankee fans I know want them to lose so the front office has no choice but to sell players.

Could get great returns for Miller / Chapman, and maybe something decent for a Beltran/McCann/Garnder.

Then, let the kids play.

The thing is, if Severino / Pineda were anywhere close to where the Yankees thought they were, they'd be five games better.   Almost glad they're not, because they got exposed.

They need to reload, then spend goobers of $$ on Harper and Machado.   That would make the great again for 2019+

Yeah, that's what they should do ... rebuild with an eye towards that great free agent class of 2018.
I'd actually like to see Harper in pinstripes ... coming to Toronto 9-10 times a year in his prime!
But it'll be a little sad if the Yankees aren't in the WC mix the rest of the way because it ain't a party in the AL East without meaningful games against NY.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: njflex on July 12, 2016, 08:49:41 AM
Yeah, that's what they should do ... rebuild with an eye towards that great free agent class of 2018.
I'd actually like to see Harper in pinstripes ... coming to Toronto 9-10 times a year in his prime!
But it'll be a little sad if the Yankees aren't in the WC mix the rest of the way because it ain't a party in the AL East without meaningful games against NY.
blue jays are playing well right now even with bautista's 12 hrs  :-\..tulo is having good start ..


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on August 05, 2016, 09:12:07 AM
when should the Yankees release Arod?
a) right now
b) sometime in August or Sept.
c) this off season
d) keep him around till his contract expires after next season
e) extend him now!


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on August 05, 2016, 10:31:43 AM
when should the Yankees release Arod?
a) right now
b) sometime in August or Sept.
c) this off season
d) keep him around till his contract expires after next season
e) extend him now!

Only way they'll know if he has anything left is to let him play.

Either way, Yankees are trending in the right direction, big time.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on August 05, 2016, 11:32:54 AM
Only way they'll know if he has anything left is to let him play.

Either way, Yankees are trending in the right direction, big time.

Yes, the Yanks did very well with their recent deals.

Assuming Arod doesn't have anything close to a David Ortiz-like bat still in him (and he does get cut before his contract expires) is he a slam dunk to get his number retired one day?

How about Tex?  What's the overall verdict on his 8 years (and one ring) in pinstripes?


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: polychronopolous on August 05, 2016, 11:37:54 AM
Only way they'll know if he has anything left is to let him play.

Either way, Yankees are trending in the right direction, big time.

Any truth to the statement that they simply don't want to see him pass Ruth after all the animosity between him and the club?

The issues between him and the training staff plus the failed ped tests being 2 that really stick out.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on August 05, 2016, 11:46:21 AM
Any truth to the statement that they simply don't want to see him pass Ruth after all the animosity between him and the club?

The issues between him and the training staff plus the failed ped tests being 2 that really stick out.

I doubt it.  He's appeared to have mended the fences the last few years, especially with the fans.   The rookies all love him too.

Who knows though?   I  think it's more now that Yankees need to give the kids at bats and he's in the way.  They're not contending right now, and the sooner the young guys get their reps, the better.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on August 05, 2016, 11:48:21 AM
Yes, the Yanks did very well with their recent deals.

Assuming Arod doesn't have anything close to a David Ortiz-like bat still in him (and he does get cut before his contract expires) is he a slam dunk to get his number retired one day?

How about Tex?  What's the overall verdict on his 8 years (and one ring) in pinstripes?

For me:

Tex:  Thanks for 2009, but largely underperformed to his contract.   Decent guy.  Money hungry history, and suspected roid guy from being young while in Texas clubhouse full of roidy mcroiders.  No retired number.  He has Giambi's and Giambi was better.

Arod:  Nope not getting retired.  Too much baggage.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on August 06, 2016, 04:32:52 PM
Arod press conference tomorrow ...


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: polychronopolous on August 06, 2016, 04:40:13 PM
I doubt it.  He's appeared to have mended the fences the last few years, especially with the fans.   The rookies all love him too.

Who knows though?   I  think it's more now that Yankees need to give the kids at bats and he's in the way.  They're not contending right now, and the sooner the young guys get their reps, the better.

They did a fine job of improving their future in the past week. The consensus seems to be that the Yankees and Rangers were the big winners at the trade deadline.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on August 07, 2016, 05:48:16 AM
They did a fine job of improving their future in the past week. The consensus seems to be that the Yankees and Rangers were the big winners at the trade deadline.

They both definitely were.

I still think Texas should have tried to get Sale though.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on August 08, 2016, 02:20:36 PM
after the 2010 season ... with 7 years left on his contract ... and just 87 HRs shy of 700 ... who would've bet that Arod would fall short?


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: polychronopolous on August 08, 2016, 02:45:30 PM
I used to hate that guy as a Ranger. You could tell the guy never gave a rip about the team or the town and was just biding his time to get out of there.

Is Mark Teixeira worthy of Cooperstown?

(http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Rglp0_FB26JLgMrjQmuKblYm7_w=/1x0:649x432/709x473/filters:format(webp)/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/50314811/Teixeira.0.jpg)

As you are probably well aware of, Mark Teixeira has announced his retirement after 14 seasons in the league. It will bring to an end a great career that came with a World Series title in 2009.

But is he a Hall of Famer? Let's take a look at some of Teixeira's career highlights.

14 seasons, .269/.361/.511, 127 wRC+
404 HR
Best seven seasons average a 141 wRC+
All-time great defensive first baseman with 104 DRS at the position
Part of 2009 World Series Champion Yankees
52.1 WAR/ 37.9 WAR7/ 45 JAWS
Ranks 28th all-time among first basemen by JAWS
Teixeira combined offense and defense like few first basemen in history have. Generally, first base is where you put big bats because that’s where their poor fielding skills will do the least amount of damage. If we take a look at some of the best first basemen all-time by JAWS, we see some terrible defenders such as Willie McCovey, Frank Thomas, Jim Thome, and Mark McGwire. More recent examples are Jason Giambi and Prince Fielder. What they all had in common is that they raked. McCovey and Thomas crushed the ball so hard that it deservedly landed them in the Hall of Fame, and Thome will likely join them.

There’s a lot of factors working against Teixeira. He did hit very well in his career, but his 127 wRC+ ranks only 47th all-time among first basemen with at least 5,000 PA. Coincidentally, he’s tied with Hall of Famer Eddie Murray. There are 20 first basemen whose entire career wRC+ are equal to or better than Teixeira’s seven-year peak average of 141.

It’s difficult for defense to make up for offensive shortcomings with an offense-first position like first base. Keith Hernandez is the best example of this. He’s arguably the greatest defensive first baseman ever and he has a higher career wRC+ than Teixeira, but he couldn’t even last more than nine years on the ballot, let alone get anywhere close to election. Don Mattingly and Gil Hodges are two other players who brought good defensive skills to the field, but whose offensive contributions fell far from the standard at the position. They didn’t get anywhere with voters either.

Teixeira wasn’t just “good” at first base, though. He’s one of the greatest fielding first basemen ever.

 He’s very similar to Keith Hernandez and John Olerud. I already discussed Hernandez, and Olerud got a mere four votes on his one and only year on the ballot. They both rank higher than Teixeira by JAWS.

Unfortunately, Teixeira does not compare favorably to Hall of Fame first baseman. By WAR, he falls well short of the Hall average for career and peak. The fact of the matter is that first base has provided many all-time great bats that set the bar too high for Teixeira’s defense to overcome. Being part of the 2009 World Champion Yankees will help, though I’m afraid it’s not nearly enough to make up the difference.

Voters put more weight on counting stats than I believe they should, but there isn’t much there to help Teixeira either. A career total of 404 HR doesn’t really stand out at first base. He doesn’t even have 2,000 hits, and his 14 seasons aren’t very high when evaluating his longevity.

I believe that Mark Teixeira doesn’t meet the Hall of Fame standard at first base. My prediction is that he’ll last a few years on the ballot before falling off. At best, it’ll be several years. With voters becoming smarter and smarter, I just don’t see how he even gets close to induction. He’s firmly a “Hall of Very Good” player. And there’s nothing wrong with that. That’s still pretty awesome. He had a great career of which he should be extremely proud.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on August 08, 2016, 03:04:16 PM
Obviously Jeter's the captain and was the real face of the team.

But for me, the "faces" of the Yankees in recent times were Teixeira and Nick Swisher  :)


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on August 08, 2016, 04:03:28 PM
Obviously Jeter's the captain and was the real face of the team.

But for me, the "faces" of the Yankees in recent times were Teixeira and Nick Swisher  :)

Swisher was a great pickup at the time - true sabermetrics type move that was correct in the short term.

Although it was the right move and really set the Yankees up well, I'm bummed about trading Miller.  Guy was a class act all the way, and nasty on the mound.

I want Toronto or Tex in the AL, after that, anyone but Boston.  Price looks to be a BAD contract.  Love how Dombrowski traded their best pitching prospect for another #4.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on August 09, 2016, 06:42:05 AM
Swisher was a great pickup at the time - true sabermetrics type move that was correct in the short term.

Although it was the right move and really set the Yankees up well, I'm bummed about trading Miller.  Guy was a class act all the way, and nasty on the mound.

I want Toronto or Tex in the AL, after that, anyone but Boston.  Price looks to be a BAD contract.  Love how Dombrowski traded their best pitching prospect for another #4.

maybe Dombrowski doesn't think that there's a difference between pitching in Petco & Fenway? haha

it'll be interesting to see what happens when Price has his opt out after a couple more seasons?  
if he chooses to stay in beantown then it'll be because he knows that he's being overpayed ...
and since red sox fans aren't too thrilled with him now, yeah, just wait for those last 5 years of his contract.



Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: njflex on August 09, 2016, 07:36:26 AM
yanks doing what boston did few yrs ago when francona lost clubhouse..cleaning house McCann could be next,,i like him good power/good catcher but I guess not what they wanted for the $$$..


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on August 09, 2016, 08:59:47 AM
maybe Dombrowski doesn't think that there's a difference between pitching in Petco & Fenway? haha

Exactly - a flyball pitcher should do extremely well in Fenway....lol.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on February 17, 2017, 05:48:48 AM
Only about 6 weeks out from Opening Day! (so my time's almost up in Colombia)

AL East prediction ... Red Sox first ... Orioles last ... toss up between Jays/Rays/Yankees

Red Sox
Blue Jays (maybe 2nd wild card?)
Yankees
Rays
Orioles


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on February 17, 2017, 07:01:32 AM
Only about 6 weeks out from Opening Day! (so my time's almost up in Colombia)

AL East prediction ... Red Sox first ... Orioles last ... toss up between Jays/Rays/Yankees

Red Sox
Blue Jays (maybe 2nd wild card?)
Yankees
Rays
Orioles

Can't really argue any of this.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on February 17, 2017, 08:31:46 AM
Can't really argue any of this.

the final two weekends of the season have the Yankees in Toronto and then the Blue Jays in New York ...
and so hopefully both teams are still playing for keeps 'til the end.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on February 17, 2017, 10:40:53 AM
the final two weekends of the season have the Yankees in Toronto and then the Blue Jays in New York ...
and so hopefully both teams are still playing for keeps 'til the end.

I support the Toronto region of my company as of yesterday, so I will definitely be timing my trips up  there appropriately.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on February 19, 2017, 02:48:35 PM
I support the Toronto region of my company as of yesterday, so I will definitely be timing my trips up  there appropriately.

what's your take on the whole Betances-arbitration-Levine fallout?


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on February 20, 2017, 01:06:29 PM
what's your take on the whole Betances-arbitration-Levine fallout?

Levine was right in principal, but should have never said a f'n thing after the Yankees won.  He's an idiot in this regard.  Just shut up - he makes them look petty.

Betances agents were foolish.

Although, I did disagree with Levine talking about saves driving $$...even if true, it's an outdated concept.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: njflex on February 20, 2017, 01:09:19 PM
Levine was right in principal, but should have never said a f'n thing after the Yankees won.  He's an idiot in this regard.  Just shut up - he makes them look petty.

Betances agents were foolish.

Although, I did disagree with Levine talking about saves driving $$...even if true, it's an outdated concept.
saw yanks picked up jon niese former met,carter is going to give them much power needed if he can reproduce those #'s again yanks overspent on another former padre headley who hit 28 hrs 1 fuking yr and now couldn't hit 30 homers playing playstation baseball 17..


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on February 20, 2017, 02:08:42 PM
Levine was right in principal, but should have never said a f'n thing after the Yankees won.  He's an idiot in this regard.  Just shut up - he makes them look petty.

Betances agents were foolish.

Although, I did disagree with Levine talking about saves driving $$...even if true, it's an outdated concept.

yeah, the arb process rewards old-school stats whereas newer metrics put Betances in the top-5 reliever tier.

I've watched a ton of Yankees games the last 2 seasons (thanks to MLBTV) and it appears that Girardi has had the luxury of really leaning on Betances at times ... so it'll be interesting to see if Betances continues to be as accommodating re 2 inning outings and consecutive appearances ... ?



Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on February 22, 2017, 05:39:06 AM
One thing was that Betances' agents completely had him unprepared for what was going to happen in the process.  A lot of stuff that went down was normal for arbitration, but he appeared to be caught off guard.

I know it's a different world, but he's getting 3 million bucks for 80 IP next year.  And if he's good, he'll make a ton of cash.

Wouldn't be surprised, if NY doesn't seem to progress, if the trade him for another massive haul.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on March 22, 2017, 06:48:06 AM
AL East prediction ... Red Sox first ... Orioles last ... toss up between Jays/Rays/Yankees

Red Sox
Blue Jays (maybe 2nd wild card?)
Yankees
Rays
Orioles

10 days till opening day ... not ceding anything to the Bosox with Price's status for the season a big question mark and the Jays' 4th (or 5th) starter pitching the championship game for the USA in the WBC tonight.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on March 22, 2017, 01:02:27 PM
10 days till opening day ... not ceding anything to the Bosox with Price's status for the season a big question mark and the Jays' 4th (or 5th) starter pitching the championship game for the USA in the WBC tonight.

Sounds about right.

Yankees lineup could be very good.

Pitching outside of Tanaka will hurt them.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: dr.chimps on March 25, 2017, 05:22:41 AM
I support the Toronto region of my company as of yesterday, so I will definitely be timing my trips up  there appropriately.
Nice! We have 10 games planned for this year. If the planets align, maybe there will be cans to be drunk.  :)


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: dr.chimps on March 25, 2017, 05:25:03 AM
10 days till opening day ... not ceding anything to the Bosox with Price's status for the season a big question mark and the Jays' 4th (or 5th) starter pitching the championship game for the USA in the WBC tonight.
Have tics. And the Jackie game. Let's hope on having the cans.  :)


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on March 25, 2017, 09:50:52 AM
Have tics. And the Jackie game. Let's hope on having the cans.  :)

Did you buy a Game Pack or just individual games?  
What's the "Jackie" game?  
... there's no jacket giveaway (that i'm aware of) and so Jackie Robinson day? or Jackie Bradley Jr? haha
Yeah, hoping that one idiot from the WC game doesn't ruin it for the rest of us.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on March 25, 2017, 10:30:40 AM
Nice! We have 10 games planned for this year. If the planets align, maybe there will be cans to be drunk.  :)

That would be cool.



Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: MuscleManDrew on March 30, 2017, 05:06:36 PM
Any Cardinals fans here?


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on March 31, 2017, 06:55:41 AM
Any Cardinals fans here?

There are not.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: CalvinH on April 01, 2017, 04:27:40 AM
There are not.

 ;D

Yankees only.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: funk51 on April 17, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
latest phenom trey mancini of the orioles 7 hr his first 12 games to tie record..this dates back to his 2016 call up.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: CalvinH on April 17, 2017, 08:55:09 AM
Yanks are the hottest team going.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on April 17, 2017, 04:45:46 PM
Yanks are the hottest team going.

It's not stopping tonight either.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: njflex on April 18, 2017, 04:31:22 AM
8 in a row....great pitching who would have thought...and offense which has no real hr threats in adundance as say the orioles/jays are avg 6 runs per game last 6 games of this streak...can it last maybe its fun as a fan to see cashmans fruition come as be patient and let this younger group take a stand and let the aging yankee era'which was great go...


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on April 18, 2017, 04:41:03 AM
Yeah....

I'm going to try to temper my enthusiasm, but this IS pretty cool.

Yanks have some interesting times ahead - they have so much talent in the minors that, if they don't trade some, they will lose some via Rule 5 draft and get nothing, so they may look to package.

It's also thought that if they struggle, they'll trade Betances or Tanaka for another haul.  That wouldn't happen if they're in contention.

If Headley / Castro / Ellsbury can produce, that might give an option to shed them too where they were pretty much thought to be sunk.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on April 18, 2017, 04:41:20 AM
Joad - WTF?


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on April 18, 2017, 07:00:05 AM
Joad - WTF?

haha

The Jays' disastrous record is all on the bats.  Few guys getting on base and can't buy a hit with RISP.
8 of their 10 losses have been by 1 or 2 runs (with the tying or winning runs LOB in the 9th.)
Donaldson being out indefinitely hurts, but every team has to overcome injuries.  

The starting pitching has been as advertised.  Just one bad start so far.  But they have no rotation depth if Sanchez & Happ spend significant time on the DL.  

Still don't think the Jays will finish below .500, unless Shapiro goes into full rebuild mode by the trade deadline. But Rogers ownership probably won't allow Shapiro to completely blow it up since they're riding the wave of having so many new season ticket and "flex packs" holders plus Rogers profits greatly from TV ratings that have been thru the roof.  But a retooling, for sure, is in the cards for the oldest team in baseball.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on April 18, 2017, 09:13:18 AM
haha

The Jays' disastrous record is all on the bats.  Few guys getting on base and can't buy a hit with RISP.
8 of their 10 losses have been by 1 or 2 runs (with the tying or winning runs LOB in the 9th.)
Donaldson being out indefinitely hurts, but every team has to overcome injuries.  

The starting pitching has been as advertised.  Just one bad start so far.  But they have no rotation depth if Sanchez & Happ spend significant time on the DL.  

Still don't think the Jays will finish below .500, unless Shapiro goes into full rebuild mode by the trade deadline. But Rogers ownership probably won't allow Shapiro to completely blow it up since they're riding the wave of having so many new season ticket and "flex packs" holders plus Rogers profits greatly from TV ratings that have been thru the roof.  But a retooling, for sure, is in the cards for the oldest team in baseball.

We will package a trade for Stroman centered around Clint Frazier..... ;D ;D


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: CalvinH on April 18, 2017, 11:16:46 AM
We will package a trade for Stroman centered around Clint Frazier..... ;D ;D



Braun Strowman on the Yankees :o :o :o :o


...no one will dare pitch him inside.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on April 18, 2017, 11:48:34 AM


Braun Strowman on the Yankees :o :o :o :o


...no one will dare pitch him inside.

Couldn't play for Yanks - would fail facial hair policy.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: CalvinH on April 19, 2017, 05:28:59 AM
Couldn't play for Yanks - would fail facial hair policy.


Oh yeah and the hair :(


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: njflex on April 19, 2017, 05:43:34 AM
severino pitched well strikeouts galore ,just was done when he gave up that hr..


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on April 19, 2017, 09:58:54 AM
severino pitched well strikeouts galore ,just was done when he gave up that hr..

Which wouldn't have happened if Kozma handled a routine DP.

Severino/Pineda were two huge question marks preseason.  They still are, but the results have been encouraging thus far.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: njflex on April 19, 2017, 10:03:14 AM
Which wouldn't have happened if Kozma handled a routine DP.

Severino/Pineda were two huge question marks preseason.  They still are, but the results have been encouraging thus far.
X2...


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on April 23, 2017, 09:47:26 AM
We will package a trade for Stroman centered around Clint Frazier..... ;D ;D

well, division rivals usually don't pull the trigger on big deals.
A couple between the Yankees & Jays from the past:
'82:  Dale Murray for Davey Collins (who became my favourite Jay), Mike Morgan & throw-in Fred McGriff
'99:  Roger Clemens for David Wells, Graeme Lloyd & Homer Bush


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: funk51 on April 26, 2017, 12:11:12 PM
eric thames could be the next cecil fielder 11 homers in 20 games so far. played in mlb from 2011 and 2012. lost in korea for the last 3  years.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: funk51 on April 30, 2017, 10:45:48 AM
nationals  ryan zimmerman 11 hrs-27 rbi-410 ba in 23 games after several down years====...time to submit a sample ??? ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on April 30, 2017, 02:05:44 PM
Yanks give one back they should have won.

This is how this 9-2 comeback stuff equals out.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: njflex on May 01, 2017, 06:25:41 AM
Yanks give one back they should have won.

This is how this 9-2 comeback stuff equals out.
DIDI OFF DL IS A GREAT WELCOME BACK,WHEN SANCHEZ RETURNS IT WILL HOPEFULLY BE HIM AND JUDGE ON WHOSE HR WENT HIGHER/FARTHER...GREAT MONTH I'LL TAKE IT.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on May 01, 2017, 09:49:57 AM
DIDI OFF DL IS A GREAT WELCOME BACK,WHEN SANCHEZ RETURNS IT WILL HOPEFULLY BE HIM AND JUDGE ON WHOSE HR WENT HIGHER/FARTHER...GREAT MONTH I'LL TAKE IT.

Yup.

Get Bird right, Sanchez back....Didi is an improvement, and hope Castro/Headley don't fall of a cliff (which they very well could).

Either way.....joad......WTF... . ;D


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: njflex on May 01, 2017, 10:42:27 AM
Yup.

Get Bird right, Sanchez back....Didi is an improvement, and hope Castro/Headley don't fall of a cliff (which they very well could).

Either way.....joad......WTF... . ;D
I LIKE CARTER IF HE CAN GET BATS HE HAS GREAT POWER AND FINDING TIME FOR AARON HICKS SOLID PLAYER


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on May 01, 2017, 02:39:49 PM
I LIKE CARTER IF HE CAN GET BATS HE HAS GREAT POWER AND FINDING TIME FOR AARON HICKS SOLID PLAYER

Hicks is making Cashman look smart.

Carter I don't really care for.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on May 04, 2017, 10:49:10 AM
Darvish will likely be the pitching piece to be had at the trade deadline.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: njflex on May 04, 2017, 10:57:46 AM
Hicks is making Cashman look smart.

Carter I don't really care for.
CARTER IS GOING TO GET PLAYING TIME NOW ,,HE CAN HIT WITH THE AT BATS ,,,NICE LINEUP WHEN SANCHEZ COMES BACK.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on May 04, 2017, 11:13:35 AM
CARTER IS GOING TO GET PLAYING TIME NOW ,,HE CAN HIT WITH THE AT BATS ,,,NICE LINEUP WHEN SANCHEZ COMES BACK.

I'm all for production, but he strikes out too much.  Often at times when we just need contact.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on May 06, 2017, 07:02:41 AM
Either way.....joad......WTF... . ;D

I welcome the Yankees return to the limelight.  It ain't a party in MLB (and the AL East in particular) without the rise of the evil empire. (looking ahead .... hope you guys sign Machado and/or Harper.)

As for the Jays, they're hitting a buck and change with RISP.  Have Donaldson, Tulo, Sanchez & Happ out.  But that's baseball.

What's also baseball is that it's a long season.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on May 06, 2017, 06:07:37 PM
I welcome the Yankees return to the limelight.  It ain't a party in MLB (and the AL East in particular) without the rise of the evil empire. (looking ahead .... hope you guys sign Machado and/or Harper.)

As for the Jays, they're hitting a buck and change with RISP.  Have Donaldson, Tulo, Sanchez & Happ out.  But that's baseball.

What's also baseball is that it's a long season.

It IS a long season.

Trying not to get too optimistic, because these next two years are supposed to be rebuilding years.

But man, they are making it hard.   I keep telling myself Castro / Hicks / Headley are all small sample size phenoms, but it just keeps going.  SP has been better than expected too.

I can see them taking a shot at a Darvish rental.

Would love to see them do that, resign, and add Otani for a triple japanese threat.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: njflex on May 07, 2017, 05:55:22 AM
It IS a long season.

Trying not to get too optimistic, because these next two years are supposed to be rebuilding years.

But man, they are making it hard.   I keep telling myself Castro / Hicks / Headley are all small sample size phenoms, but it just keeps going.  SP has been better than expected too.

I can see them taking a shot at a Darvish rental.

Would love to see them do that, resign, and add Otani for a triple japanese threat.
x2 grape great insight,,,,


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: funk51 on May 09, 2017, 07:29:46 AM
ryan howard officially not a boys of the summer anymore..released by the braves triple a team after posting a 1-5 184 line in 11 games.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on July 31, 2017, 08:27:57 PM
exciting day for the Yankees getting Sonny Gray.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on August 01, 2017, 08:32:30 AM
exciting day for the Yankees getting Sonny Gray.

Yessir, and they got him for a headcase and two injured guys.
 
Extreme groundball pitcher in YS is a good thing.  Only question is if he stays healthy.

Pickups of Robertson / Kahnle / Gray are massive upgrades without any sacrifice of long term plans.   Rookies all playing well, with the only downer being the Torres / Fowler injuries.

With a few things going right and the 2019 FA class, Yankees future looks good.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: tom joad on August 01, 2017, 09:33:13 AM
Yessir, and they got him for a headcase and two injured guys.
 
Extreme groundball pitcher in YS is a good thing.  Only question is if he stays healthy.

Pickups of Robertson / Kahnle / Gray are massive upgrades without any sacrifice of long term plans.   Rookies all playing well, with the only downer being the Torres / Fowler injuries.

With a few things going right and the 2019 FA class, Yankees future looks good.

the present looks good too.  :)

i'm down for another (long overdue) Yankees-Dodgers World Series ... would take me back to the first two WS that I followed avidly as a kid ('77, '78) and then '81 too.


Title: Re: The Boys of Summer
Post by: Grape Ape on August 01, 2017, 10:54:04 AM
77 and 78  were great.   81 sucked.