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I've drank a cup of white vinegar precontest because I was told it "brought out the veins" (it didn't).
I've had friends who have had coffee enemas (at least one of whom was incredibly shredded). Others who've had colonics.
Lotsa crazy advice out there for stuff like that, things like Arnold and Franco going out in the woods and squatting for hours and drinking wine and roasting chickens.
What have you done?
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I've drank a cup of white vinegar precontest because I was told it "brought out the veins" (it didn't).
I've had friends who have had coffee enemas (at least one of whom was incredibly shredded). Others who've had colonics.
Lotsa crazy advice out there for stuff like that, things like Arnold and Franco going out in the woods and squatting for hours and drinking wine and roasting chickens.
What have you done?
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Forgot to include NONDRUG in the title.
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Eating horse shit.
Swallowing dessicated liver tabs
Not fucking for weeks/months
Drinking alcohol to "get the water out"
Using the "Weifer principle's".....
Fuck, the time, energy, money I've wasted over the past 30 yrs.
>:( >:( >:( >:(
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Eating horse shit.
Swallowing dessicated liver tabs
Not fucking for weeks/months
Drinking alcohol to "get the water out"
Using the "Weifer principle's".....
Fuck, the time, energy, money I've wasted over the past 30 yrs.
>:( >:( >:( >:(
Please expand on number 1
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Setting alarm for 1 am and 4 am to have protein shakes. Last 3 days before I said fuck it.
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Setting alarm for 1 am and 4 am to have protein shakes. Last 3 days before I said fuck it.
I've set the alarm also.
Been through many food fad phases:
Baby food
Orange roughy
Sweet potatoes
Poi
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I've set the alarm also.
Been through many food fad phases:
Baby food
Orange roughy
Sweet potatoes
Poi
What's wrong with these two?
I've never tried orange roughy, but I hear its delicious and pretty much pure protein. Sweet potatoes are delicious and packed with nutrients. Or did you think the fish would "thin out the skin"?
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Drinking protein powder drinks
Using creatine
Observing the anabolic window
Foam rolling
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eating like a pro bb on boatloads of drugs as a natty. For years! xD
I got pretty big and strong for a natty though
but also bulky/fat
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GOMAD
IF
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cutting up raw liver and putting it in tomato juice and drinking it. looking back, I'm thinking, WTF
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What's wrong with these two?
I've never tried orange roughy, but I hear its delicious and pretty much pure protein. Sweet potatoes are delicious and packed with nutrients. Or did you think the fish would "thin out the skin"?
Orange roughy and leaky anal oil. Google it.
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BEEF LIVER TABS
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Boiling up 2 litres of water with 6 green tea bags and letting it steep overnight and drinking this vile tasting shit cold the next morning, this was Before green tea extract came out.
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cutting up raw liver and putting it in tomato juice and drinking it. looking back, I'm thinking, WTF
Haha! That sounds good!
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many n still doing them
has any1 tried rhodalia rosea?
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Drinking protein powder drinks
Using creatine
Observing the anabolic window
Foam rolling
i started foam rolling and i feel my hams are less stiff and back is doing better
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Drinking alcohol to "get the water out"
That actually does work, but it's not worth the hangover
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Lifted weights....
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I took a prohormone called biotest mag 10, it was hyped as the greatest legal muscle supplement over at t nation many years ago. I mean really overhyped to the point I believed it despite knowing otherwise. Besides tasting like shit, it did absolutely nothing, took more than the recommended dose and my whole back broke out with acne and rashes, never again, and F T nation.
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I remember reading that Sege Nubret ate a lot of horse meat (which was supposedly leaner) and being pissed that I couldn't get it at my local grocery store.
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lolllll!
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lift weights
eat lots of protein
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MHP's "T Bomb" product...
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Weider Mega Mass 5000
Any weight gainer
ZMA
HMB
Liver tabs
Animal Pak
Tribulus ::)
Any and all non-steroid t-boosters
The list is endless. I've been buying snake oil for 30 years.
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Believed in everything that came out of MM2000. Vanadyl, hmb, overpriced creatine/sugar drink and their ridiculous bench press program.
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Orange roughy and leaky anal oil. Google it.
I've heard of that happening, but I'd think you'd need to eat nothing but orange roughy all day every day for that to happen. It happened to you from eating it once or twice a day? Or did you eat it as your only protein source?
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6 meals a day
creatine
cell tech
"anabolic window" obsessions
following pro workouts in mags
sacrificing social life in college for "gains" (that never happened) = biggest life regret probably. fuck BBing and how it preys upon the young and niave
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Weider Mega Mass 5000
Any weight gainer
ZMA
HMB
Liver tabs
Animal Pak
Tribulus ::)
Any and all non-steroid t-boosters
The list is endless. I've been buying snake oil for 30 years.
And I'm still looking for some snake oil to give me my pump back!
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6 meals a day
creatine
cell tech
"anabolic window" obsessions
following pro workouts in mags
sacrificing social life in college for "gains" (that never happened) = biggest life regret probably. fuck BBing and how it preys upon the young and niave
Speaking of obsessions, my mind is littered with many of these little bodybuilding related land mines based on bro science. I read some article a hundred years ago that you should never cook your eggs very much because it makes the protein less viable or something. But I hate runny eggs. I haven't cooked an egg in decades without feeling guilty. (So fucked up).
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Speaking of obsessions, my mind is littered with many of these little bodybuilding related land mines based on bro science. I read some article a hundred years ago that you should never cook your eggs very much because it makes the protein less viable or something. But I hate runny eggs. I haven't cooked an egg in decades without feeling guilty. (So fucked up).
yep BBing is a disease of the mind. once its rooted, its almost impossible to get rid of
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Speaking of obsessions, my mind is littered with many of these little bodybuilding related land mines based on bro science. I read some article a hundred years ago that you should never cook your eggs very much because it makes the protein less viable or something. But I hate runny eggs. I haven't cooked an egg in decades without feeling guilty. (So fucked up).
how do you feel when i tell you that its actually the opposite and bioavailability increases by cooking them until hard? :D
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how do you feel when i tell you that its actually the opposite and bioavailability increases by cooking them until hard? :D
Thanks, but it doesn't matter. It seems to have been hard wired in my youth, similar to the effect of early trauma. I don't even care about bioavailability anymore.
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I've heard of that happening, but I'd think you'd need to eat nothing but orange roughy all day every day for that to happen. It happened to you from eating it once or twice a day? Or did you eat it as your only protein source?
I believe tommywishbone said it happened to that female bodybuilder Denise Rutkowski that now is a meth addict that keeps getting arresting and has chin hair. She leaked all over the gym floor supposedly. Within seconds, some schmoe probably ran over and lapped it up with his tongue
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I believe tommywishbone said it happened to that female bodybuilder Denise Rutkowski that now is a meth addict that keeps getting arresting and has chin hair. She leaked all over the gym floor supposedly. Within seconds, some schmoe probably ran over and lapped it up with his tongue
It was delicious.
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I believe tommywishbone said it happened to that female bodybuilder Denise Rutkowski that now is a meth addict that keeps getting arresting and has chin hair. She leaked all over the gym floor supposedly. Within seconds, some schmoe probably ran over and lapped it up with his tongue
Yeah, I remember that post :-X
I have a friend who turned pro a few years ago up here in Canada who ate orange roughy precontest and never mentioned leaky shits. Maybe she just had a bad reaction or was way overeating it?
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Mixed Baking Soda with a splash of vinegar and cranberry juice to help alleviate lactic acid buildup. Let's just say all I got was a huge bloated belly and gas all day.
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not jerking off worked for me.... but i could never hold on to that more than 3 weeks. maybe i should go back to it. getting low t from it must be bullshit since i never felt so horny in my life than when i didn't jerk off. when i jerk off regularly i become lazy, apathetic and all around bored... also when i jerk off a lot i don't even want to jerk off after awhile and my erections become soft
the dumb shit i tried that didn't seem to have any effect in any way what so ever were creatine, tribulus and bcaas. yes i didn't notice any difference using bcaas, training results = same, motivation = same, focus = same than when i ate a lot of food and carbs
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Creatine
Met-Rx
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My gift from my parents for high school graduation was going to Shawn Ray's "muscle camp" in Las Vegas. That is a story in and of itself, but I remember one night while at the hotel, I was adding up my protein intake for the day. I had read many times in Flex that you need to consume at least 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight, and I followed that guideline like my life depended on it. Anyway, I realized that in the excitement of the day, I had somehow miscalculated my protein intake and was about 35 grams short. It was already around midnight and my parents were already asleep in their room, but I didn't have any money on me to buy food. So I pretty much started freaking out because I knew all of my hard earned gains would go right out the window if I didn't hit my required protein intake for the day. So I walked over to my parents room and started banging on their door like there was some major emergency going on. They woke up and I explained to them the situation and that I needed money to buy something with at least 35 grams of protein. I remember my mom looking at me like I was an idiot, and she told me to just eat more protein with breakfast the next morning. Then I looked at her like she was crazy and explained that by waiting I'd miss my anabolic window. So she ended up giving me her credit card and I went downstairs to the hotel gift shop and bought some beef jerky that would cover my protein needs for the day. As I swallowed down that last piece of beef jerky, I drew a sigh of relief....crisis averted!!
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Let ye who has not taken a liver tab casteth the first stone!
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My gift from my parents for high school graduation was going to Shawn Ray's "muscle camp" in Las Vegas. That is a story in and of itself, but I remember one night while at the hotel, I was adding up my protein intake for the day. I had read many times in Flex that you need to consume at least 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight, and I followed that guideline like my life depended on it. Anyway, I realized that in the excitement of the day, I had somehow miscalculated my protein intake and was about 35 grams short. It was already around midnight and my parents were already asleep in their room, but I didn't have any money on me to buy food. So I pretty much started freaking out because I knew all of my hard earned gains would go right out the window if I didn't hit my required protein intake for the day. So I walked over to my parents room and started banging on their door like there was some major emergency going on. They woke up and I explained to them the situation and that I needed money to buy something with at least 35 grams of protein. I remember my mom looking at me like I was an idiot, and she told me to just eat more protein with breakfast the next morning. Then I looked at her like she was crazy and explained that by waiting I'd miss my anabolic window. So she ended up giving me her credit card and I went downstairs to the hotel gift shop and bought some beef jerky that would cover my protein needs for the day. As I swallowed down that last piece of beef jerky, I drew a sigh of relief....crisis averted!!
That's pretty typical for a getbigger tbh.
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ZMA
HMB
Liver tabs
Animal Pak
Tribulus
I think i was on this same "stack" in college. Those Animal ads really inspired me actually.
Xenadrine and Ripped Fuel when they first came out "Ma Huang" is natural right?)
L-Arginine
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i started foam rolling and i feel my hams are less stiff and back is doing better
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Same with me, it really works on my upper back & neck!!!
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My gift from my parents for high school graduation was going to Shawn Ray's "muscle camp" in Las Vegas. That is a story in and of itself, but I remember one night while at the hotel, I was adding up my protein intake for the day. I had read many times in Flex that you need to consume at least 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight, and I followed that guideline like my life depended on it. Anyway, I realized that in the excitement of the day, I had somehow miscalculated my protein intake and was about 35 grams short. It was already around midnight and my parents were already asleep in their room, but I didn't have any money on me to buy food. So I pretty much started freaking out because I knew all of my hard earned gains would go right out the window if I didn't hit my required protein intake for the day. So I walked over to my parents room and started banging on their door like there was some major emergency going on. They woke up and I explained to them the situation and that I needed money to buy something with at least 35 grams of protein. I remember my mom looking at me like I was an idiot, and she told me to just eat more protein with breakfast the next morning. Then I looked at her like she was crazy and explained that by waiting I'd miss my anabolic window. So she ended up giving me her credit card and I went downstairs to the hotel gift shop and bought some beef jerky that would cover my protein needs for the day. As I swallowed down that last piece of beef jerky, I drew a sigh of relief....crisis averted!!
A lot of the Bro science is pretty accurate except for the important detail they leave out of all of the drugs they're also taking. Carb timing is only important if you're running insulin, but seeing people time their carbs as a natural is idiotic. Eating certain calories when you're jacked on Tren and HGH is highly importing if you're bulking because your metabolism is a fucking furnace. But they also left out those details in FLEX.
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tony freemen stick vits up his ass or something.
tourniquet training is the scary shit i heard about recently. That shit is stupid.
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Every supplement I have ever taken. I will say out of everything from protein powders to vitamins the only thing I can say that worked for me was creatine. I might be a super reactor to it because I have heard so many guy say it did nothing to them. I started getting bad kidney blood work back and the doctor told me to stop taking it. He said it was filtered out through the kidneys. I gave it up and the kidney tests came back normal. In before someone tells me that creatinine is the by product of using creatine so that's throwing of the tests..
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Masturbating while I shit does the trick for me.
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Every supplement I have ever taken. I will say out of everything from protein powders to vitamins the only thing I can say that worked for me was creatine. I might be a super reactor to it because I have heard so many guy say it did nothing to them. I started getting bad kidney blood work back and the doctor told me to stop taking it. He said it was filtered out through the kidneys. I gave it up and the kidney tests came back normal. In before someone tells me that creatinine is the by product of using creatine so that's throwing of the tests..
I took creatine once, and gain around 10 pounds of water weight in less then 2 days. That scared the fuck out of me and I quit taking it.
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My gift from my parents for high school graduation was going to Shawn Ray's "muscle camp" in Las Vegas. That is a story in and of itself, but I remember one night while at the hotel, I was adding up my protein intake for the day. I had read many times in Flex that you need to consume at least 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight, and I followed that guideline like my life depended on it. Anyway, I realized that in the excitement of the day, I had somehow miscalculated my protein intake and was about 35 grams short. It was already around midnight and my parents were already asleep in their room, but I didn't have any money on me to buy food. So I pretty much started freaking out because I knew all of my hard earned gains would go right out the window if I didn't hit my required protein intake for the day. So I walked over to my parents room and started banging on their door like there was some major emergency going on. They woke up and I explained to them the situation and that I needed money to buy something with at least 35 grams of protein. I remember my mom looking at me like I was an idiot, and she told me to just eat more protein with breakfast the next morning. Then I looked at her like she was crazy and explained that by waiting I'd miss my anabolic window. So she ended up giving me her credit card and I went downstairs to the hotel gift shop and bought some beef jerky that would cover my protein needs for the day. As I swallowed down that last piece of beef jerky, I drew a sigh of relief....crisis averted!!
See it's stuff right like this that's the reason I read this board. My parents took me to Shawn Ray's Muscle Camp.
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My gift from my parents for high school graduation was going to Shawn Ray's "muscle camp" in Las Vegas. That is a story in and of itself, but I remember one night while at the hotel, I was adding up my protein intake for the day. I had read many times in Flex that you need to consume at least 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight, and I followed that guideline like my life depended on it. Anyway, I realized that in the excitement of the day, I had somehow miscalculated my protein intake and was about 35 grams short. It was already around midnight and my parents were already asleep in their room, but I didn't have any money on me to buy food. So I pretty much started freaking out because I knew all of my hard earned gains would go right out the window if I didn't hit my required protein intake for the day. So I walked over to my parents room and started banging on their door like there was some major emergency going on. They woke up and I explained to them the situation and that I needed money to buy something with at least 35 grams of protein. I remember my mom looking at me like I was an idiot, and she told me to just eat more protein with breakfast the next morning. Then I looked at her like she was crazy and explained that by waiting I'd miss my anabolic window. So she ended up giving me her credit card and I went downstairs to the hotel gift shop and bought some beef jerky that would cover my protein needs for the day. As I swallowed down that last piece of beef jerky, I drew a sigh of relief....crisis averted!!
Pure gold.
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My gift from my parents for high school graduation was going to Shawn Ray's "muscle camp" in Las Vegas. That is a story in and of itself, but I remember one night while at the hotel, I was adding up my protein intake for the day. I had read many times in Flex that you need to consume at least 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight, and I followed that guideline like my life depended on it. Anyway, I realized that in the excitement of the day, I had somehow miscalculated my protein intake and was about 35 grams short. It was already around midnight and my parents were already asleep in their room, but I didn't have any money on me to buy food. So I pretty much started freaking out because I knew all of my hard earned gains would go right out the window if I didn't hit my required protein intake for the day. So I walked over to my parents room and started banging on their door like there was some major emergency going on. They woke up and I explained to them the situation and that I needed money to buy something with at least 35 grams of protein. I remember my mom looking at me like I was an idiot, and she told me to just eat more protein with breakfast the next morning. Then I looked at her like she was crazy and explained that by waiting I'd miss my anabolic window. So she ended up giving me her credit card and I went downstairs to the hotel gift shop and bought some beef jerky that would cover my protein needs for the day. As I swallowed down that last piece of beef jerky, I drew a sigh of relief....crisis averted!!
LOL as the son of immigrant parents, I can safely say if I tried to pull this kind of shit I'd get my ass beat with my dad's belt. That's an awesome story though haha, glad you got that 35g protein in at the end of the day ;D
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too much creating until diarrhea / stomach ache
#whateverittakesrightbabe? :D
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too much creating until diarrhea / stomach ache
#whateverittakesrightbabe? :D
How much did you take?!
I've gone as high as 15g and never had the shits... Just curious what amounts it takes to blow up local Starbucks toilets :D
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How much did you take?!
I've gone as high as 15g and never had the shits... Just curious what amounts it takes to blow up local Starbucks toilets :D
For me, the limit is 5g/day. If I go to 6, it's Krakatoa in the outhouse.
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Portuguese Port wine during pump, just before contest.
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Masturbating while I shit does the trick for me.
seek help soon.. ;D
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Oh yeah, I remember I read somewhere that beet juice increases pumps, so I chopped a beet in half, put half of it in a bullet and juiced it. Drank it about an hour before training. Didn't get any better pumps, but came home and took the biggest reddest shit I've ever taken in my life. It looked like a murder scene in a toilet bowl. So much fiber, it was ridiculous! Looked like I shit out my organs LOL
In hindsight, I was lucky I didn't uncontrollably shit what looked like blood mid-squat! :o
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Oh yeah, I remember I read somewhere that beet juice increases pumps, so I chopped a beet in half, put half of it in a bullet and juiced it. Drank it about an hour before training. Didn't get any better pumps, but came home and took the biggest reddest shit I've ever taken in my life. It looked like a murder scene in a toilet bowl. So much fiber, it was ridiculous! Looked like I shit out my organs LOL
In hindsight, I was lucky I didn't uncontrollably shit what looked like blood mid-squat! :o
I may try this at work!
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My gift from my parents for high school graduation was going to Shawn Ray's "muscle camp" in Las Vegas. That is a story in and of itself, but I remember one night while at the hotel, I was adding up my protein intake for the day. I had read many times in Flex that you need to consume at least 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight, and I followed that guideline like my life depended on it. Anyway, I realized that in the excitement of the day, I had somehow miscalculated my protein intake and was about 35 grams short. It was already around midnight and my parents were already asleep in their room, but I didn't have any money on me to buy food. So I pretty much started freaking out because I knew all of my hard earned gains would go right out the window if I didn't hit my required protein intake for the day. So I walked over to my parents room and started banging on their door like there was some major emergency going on. They woke up and I explained to them the situation and that I needed money to buy something with at least 35 grams of protein. I remember my mom looking at me like I was an idiot, and she told me to just eat more protein with breakfast the next morning. Then I looked at her like she was crazy and explained that by waiting I'd miss my anabolic window. So she ended up giving me her credit card and I went downstairs to the hotel gift shop and bought some beef jerky that would cover my protein needs for the day. As I swallowed down that last piece of beef jerky, I drew a sigh of relief....crisis averted!!
Hahaha, Getbig gold! ;D
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I also remember one time in college reading how niacin brings your veins out, so I went and bought some at GNC and took like 10x the recommended dosage before class. I figured the girls would wet their panties once they saw me with Ronnie Coleman-esque veins sticking out everything. Anyway, about 30 minutes into class I started feeling really hot and itchy. I looked at my skin and it was like beet red. I almost felt like I was going to have a heart attack...of course I didn't see any improvement in my vascularity. Luckily, it eventually wore off but I remember someone asking me after class if I was ok....probably bc my face was so red. Needless to say, I didn't end up getting the attention from the ladies that I was expecting.
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I also remember one time in college reading how niacin brings your veins out, so I went and bought some at GNC and took like 10x the recommended dosage before class. I figured the girls would wet their panties once they saw me with Ronnie Coleman-esque veins sticking out everything. Anyway, about 30 minutes into class I started feeling really hot and itchy. I looked at my skin and it was like beet red. I almost felt like I was going to have a heart attack...of course I didn't see any improvement in my vascularity. Luckily, it eventually wore off but I remember someone asking me after class if I was ok....probably bc my face was so red. Needless to say, I didn't end up getting the attention from the ladies that I was expecting.
niacin flush,,i have it in my multi but little amount,but when I took it alone I got same feeling horrible.
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I also remember one time in college reading how niacin brings your veins out, so I went and bought some at GNC and took like 10x the recommended dosage before class. I figured the girls would wet their panties once they saw me with Ronnie Coleman-esque veins sticking out everything. Anyway, about 30 minutes into class I started feeling really hot and itchy. I looked at my skin and it was like beet red. I almost felt like I was going to have a heart attack...of course I didn't see any improvement in my vascularity. Luckily, it eventually wore off but I remember someone asking me after class if I was ok....probably bc my face was so red. Needless to say, I didn't end up getting the attention from the ladies that I was expecting.
:D
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I also remember one time in college reading how niacin brings your veins out, so I went and bought some at GNC and took like 10x the recommended dosage before class. I figured the girls would wet their panties once they saw me with Ronnie Coleman-esque veins sticking out everything. Anyway, about 30 minutes into class I started feeling really hot and itchy. I looked at my skin and it was like beet red. I almost felt like I was going to have a heart attack...of course I didn't see any improvement in my vascularity. Luckily, it eventually wore off but I remember someone asking me after class if I was ok....probably bc my face was so red. Needless to say, I didn't end up getting the attention from the ladies that I was expecting.
LOL I remember the first time I took niacin, I took it before work one morning. Got to work and everyone asked if I had a sunburn. It wore off an hour or so later and confused the fuck out of my coworkers haha. Good times....
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LOL I remember the first time I took niacin, I took it before work one morning. Got to work and everyone asked if I had a sunburn. It wore off an hour or so later and confused the fuck out of my coworkers haha. Good times....
first time i took it, the flush hit and woke me up. i thought i was having a heart attack.mhad no idea what was happening to me
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Oh yeah, I remember I read somewhere that beet juice increases pumps, so I chopped a beet in half, put half of it in a bullet and juiced it. Drank it about an hour before training. Didn't get any better pumps, but came home and took the biggest reddest shit I've ever taken in my life. It looked like a murder scene in a toilet bowl. So much fiber, it was ridiculous! Looked like I shit out my organs LOL
In hindsight, I was lucky I didn't uncontrollably shit what looked like blood mid-squat! :o
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On a cheat day, 2 years ago I bought some "Blue Raspberry Gummy Worms"... Damned things turned my shit BLUE- but not being a "junk foodie" I didn't KNOW what had happened...
I went to my Doctor, and talked to him as if I didn't have much time left on earth. He asked me EXACTLY to list what I ate in last 2 days, and he told me what was up... :-[
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On a cheat day, 2 years ago I bought some "Blue Raspberry Gummy Worms"... Damned things turned my shit BLUE- but not being a "junk foodie" I didn't KNOW what had happened...
I went to my Doctor, and talked to him as if I didn't have much time left on earth. He asked me EXACTLY to list what I ate in last 2 days, and he told me what was up... :-[
LOL in first year university, before I ever started lifting/eating right, my dinner was a big bag of ruffles all dressed chips. After about 4 or 5 days of that my shit turned neon green!
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Didnt Johnny Fuller used to drink Cows blood from the slaughter house?
He ended up dying from blood cancer as well...
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2008/12/Johnny_Fuller_40-1.jpg)
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Didnt Johnny Fuller used to drink Cows blood from the slaughter house?
He ended up dying from blood cancer as well...
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2008/12/Johnny_Fuller_40-1.jpg)
THATS NOT KALI MUSCLE
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Didnt Johnny Fuller used to drink Cows blood from the slaughter house?
He ended up dying from blood cancer as well...
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2008/12/Johnny_Fuller_40-1.jpg)
damn, under rated.
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This is pretty embarrassing to admit, but in my senior year high school yearbook, we all could put our favorite quote under our pic if we wanted. Rather than using a quote from one of society's great philosophers or perhaps someone like Abraham Lincoln or JFK, I went with a Jay Cutler quote out of Flex. I can't remember the exact quote now....I'll have to look for my yearbook!
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I drove throughout the night to the Arnold or Olympia in Columbus. Then drove back home after prejudging (couldn't afford night show tickets).