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Please, let's not turn this into an "outing" thread, and please give his family privacy. Let's make this a remembrance thread for the kooky son of a bitch we loved and knew as Ekul (Radical Plato).
On April 14, 2016, he lost his battle with depression, and is no longer with us.
We used to love kicking him in the nuts whenever we had the chance, and he loved giving it right back. He rolled with the punches and dished them out equally as well. Sadly, we will no longer have the opportunity to play these childish games with him. I used to love antagonizing him about American's and their firearms. I routinely offered him an open invitation to the US, so that I could take him target shooting and show him that guns aren't so bad. I also loved his threads about refurbishing exercise machines (he was truly gifted in this aspect). He would buy shitty machines online and make them look new again. He loved computers, gaming, MMA, guitars, bike rides, cats (fucking weirdo); but most of all, he loved Getbig. He will be missed like a brother.
RIP Ekul, Twaddle
"RUSSELL Luke My Dearly Beloved Son, Luke My world as I knew it has ended. My unconditional and never-ending love could not heal your tortured soul and broken heart. I tried so hard to get you to stay but your grief was so all consuming and overpowering and your pain beyond measure. My shattered heart will never repair. May you now have the peace you yearned for as we who loved you continue on, in deep sorrow, without you. I will carry your memory in my heart forever, and remember you with love all the days of my life. Your loving Mum, Kath."
"RUSSELL. Luke. Apr. 15, 2016 aged 43 Much loved brother of Andrew and brother-in-law of Catherine. Loved and loving uncle to Rose and Brock. We remember a brother with a cheeky smile who loved to play cricket but mostly only to bat. We remember the boy who loved to bang the goal through the two telephone poles and destroy the neighbour's fence. The boy who clung to his 'anklet' and came home covered in mud wearing his Sunday best. We remember the smiling uncle sitting with us, teaching us how to play guitar. We remember him just enjoying being with us and feel a deep sorrow that those days have gone and are not to come back. You were loved and still will be. May you find peace now, my beloved brother. I will miss you more than I can say. Love Andrew, Catherine, Rose and Brock."
(http://s32.postimg.org/9h6vhve4l/ekul_3.png)
(http://s32.postimg.org/it246b5fp/Ekul_1.png)
(http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/images/GetInvolved/AwarenessRibbon/Ribbon-1.png)
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Remember the name, be interesting to read his last posts now..suicide is no joke, PIP
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Just checked, this was the same guy who used to film his bike rides right?his last post was about "killing his enemies" as something he wanted to do.
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He was posting until a couple of months ago, did not sound suicidal at all.
Are you sure you have the right guy?
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The dude obviously had major issues. I'm glad he didn't take anyone out with him
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He was posting until a couple of months ago, did not sound suicidal at all.
Are you sure you have the right guy?
Sadly, yes.
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Can't tell if this is just busting balls. Gonna be sad anyway. I liked the guy.
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Can't tell if this is just busting balls. Gonna be sad anyway. I liked the guy.
aj, I wish it were. I would not joke about this, and I truly have a pit in my stomach this morning. :'(
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That is sad. No woman is worth killing yourself over.
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Shizzo had a hand in it.
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Shizzo had a hand in it.
What? ???
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Shizzo had a hand in it.
Is this just a joke in poor taste?
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He had a twisted view about women in general but he never sounded suicidal. ???
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Sadly, yes.
Care to give some more details?
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I guess I had him pegged correctly mostly. Was kind of joking/pushing his buttons with some of my posts to/about him as I didn't think it was quite that bad, though, but clearly his outlook on life/ideas were odd to me.
You could def tell he wasn't happy.
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Care to give some more details?
The local gym that he worked out at posted about it on their facebook.
Ekul made his last facebook post on April 14, 2016. It was a suicide awareness ribbon.
On April 15, 2016, his gym posted about him losing his battle with depression.
:'(
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PIP.
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Is this just a joke in poor taste?
>:(
What! I just sent a real sincere PM. If that's a hoax, that's fucked up!
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This joke is a little over the line.
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:(
shouldn't base your life around the love of a woman
they come and go
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RIP. At least he didn't leave kids behind:
I have similar story, I am 43, never married, no kids. Had a few long term relationships with cunty women that I stayed too long with. Kind of over it now, although I wouldn't mind a fuck buddy. I have just started dating again and meeting plenty of women but Jesus H Christ they do my head in. Most are dumb as door knobs, can only small talk and have a head full of inane jibberish. The joke that goes "If women didn't have pussies they would be ten high at the dump" resonates as true with me.
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From his articulate posts he seemed a clever man. Sad news indeed
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This joke is a little over the line.
This is not a joke, I truly wish it were.
We all love to bust each others balls around here. It's what we do. Man kind has been doing it for thousands of years. We poke fun at each other, bicker, fight, call each other names. However, I would never wish this outcome upon any member of this board.
PIP Ekul
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His situation happened to me (very very bad woman situation) about three years ago.
I almost did the same thing.
Nobody would have known and you wouldn't have known from my posts either. This isn't the place for that.
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His situation happened to me (very very bad woman situation) about three years ago.
I almost did the same thing.
Nobody would have known and you wouldn't have known from my posts either. This isn't the place for that.
Definately not . Banter is pretty hard on here.
But I wouldn't like having some personal sob story threads on here. It's just depressing to read
Regardless it's sad when a man sees no choice but to take his life. Eventually things turns around. For the most part anyways..
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Sad to hear but not hugely surprised. Although intelligent, he came across as being quite bitter, depressed and bored with life.
Most of his posts in the past months were the enjoyment he took from taking acid and his dislike towards women. The videos he made just highlighted his boredom.
Although he would advocate the joys of living a single life, I always felt that he actually hated the fact he didn't have a family since he wanted the stability of having a wife and children. I think I even mentioned this to him once which he obviously denied.
I did enjoy reading his posts though. He seemed like a good person. RIP.
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I wondered where he was. There were a few UFC threads (Conor retiring) that I was expecting him to be involved with... and he was notably absent.
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Wow wtf, was just thinking the other day he hadn't posted in a while, his posts about his cat and his bike rides were strangely out of character for him but never saw this coming.
Probably was massively fucked over by a horrible cu nt of a woman.
Sad news, RIP
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His situation happened to me (very very bad woman situation) about three years ago.
I almost did the same thing.
Nobody would have known and you wouldn't have known from my posts either. This isn't the place for that.
This.
Been there myself.
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I wonder if his drug use played a role in his suicide. He was a user of LSD and also began using gear (including Tren) months before his death. I'm no expert in this subject but I imagine it could cause extreme mood swings?
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After a lot of google-fu, I found his real name and gym. So, it appears it's true.
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I wonder if his drug use played a role in his suicide. He was a user of LSD and also began using gear (including Tren) months before his death. I'm no expert in this subject but I imagine it could cause extreme mood swings?
Don't know if he was also taking LSD, but I remember a thread from last year where he was asking about MDMA and considering that he had (at the time) recently lost his father, I strongly advised him against it. If he was taking tren as well...
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After a lot of google-fu, I found his real name and gym. So, it appears it's true.
Can you post what the gym said for those of us not on fail book
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I wonder if his drug use played a role in his suicide. He was a user of LSD and also began using gear (including Tren) months before his death. I'm no expert in this subject but I imagine it could cause extreme mood swings?
yes going off steroids can and will cause depression due to natural test levels going down when you go off. happens to most. Could definately have played a role in his choice to take his life.
don't know about psychologial drugs/stimulants work on that but Im pretty sure they can have mood effects aswell.
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Can you post what the gym said for those of us not on fail book
It's a short message, it says he lost his struggle with depression on the previous day (the message is from 15 April).
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Mods, please make this post a sticky. With permission via pm, I will post details on his passing, but I'm not sure it's appropriate.
Everyone, please keep him in your thoughts, and have respect for his family and friends.
PIP, Ekul.
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LSD / Mushrooms have a tendency to bypass all the emotional control you have been building against gripes destroying you.
I would not recommend taking drugs with major life issues current. You will be experiencing them full force and without that filter.
I have been suicidal on mushrooms and I have sat with people having the classic "hellishly introspective nightmare" getting them through it, too.
Ecstasy was more a longing for woman to paw at, but not particularly hellish - for me, at least.
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So sorry to hear it.
RIP brother.
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Too many guys take their life due to women.
I remember 'Ironmike' who was a mod at Anabolex doing the same in about 2007. I knew him when I was younger too he was a cool guy and seemed to be so different online especially after growing up and dealing with shit.
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Man, that stinks. Just a few months ago, Radical Plato (RP) and I were PMing quite often.
Based on what he said to me, I hardly doubt it was ONLY over a woman. RP expressed to me on numerous occasions, as well as on the forum, about growing up in a pretty abusive home. He spoke at great length via PM about his abusive childhood, and how its difficult to get through a day without some emotional upheavals. Although a women may seem like the cause of his suicide, I suspect the core of his depression and difficulties with adult relationships, root back to his childhood--as he said so himself. We take for granted how important those formative years now, and RP continued to struggled with those demons throughout his adult life.
PIP :'( :'(
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He spoke to me about suicide and life on a few occassions as Radical and ekul.
This truly hurts my heart.
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Army of One started a thread concerning suicide in the fall of 2015. It doesn't appear that Radical_Plato made any posts in that thread. Oddly, Joon's gimmicks were all over it.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=585535.0
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I thought he was an asshole but still very sad news. Don't wish that on any one or their family. Was he being treated for his depression?
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I thought he was an asshole but still very sad news. Don't wish that on any one or their family. Was he being treated for his depression?
I don't know if he was being treated, but I'm pretty sure he didn't have anyone in his life except his cat.
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:-X :-X :-X
Is it possible to hang yourself with your hands tied behind your back? (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=400437.0)
A good friend of mine committed suicide two years back, his wife was having an affair, and that on top of other issues tipped him over the edge and he hung humself in the backyard. I just got a copy of the coroners report today and found out that he was hung with his hands bound behind his back, his wife found him, and get this, called her lover to come over and help get him down. Then she rang the emergency services, oh and it only came out at the inquest that she was having an affair, and when asked why she didn't tell police at the time, she replied " I didn't think it was relevant" - Anyway, it has brought up a bad memory and the coroners finding has said there is nothing suspicious. I read the report, and they said it was possible to hang yourself with your hands behind your back, even though unusual. What do you think?
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Sorry to read this. I lost my younger brother to suicide many years ago.
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I thought he was an asshole but still very sad news. Don't wish that on any one or their family. Was he being treated for his depression?
Yes, he was being treated for depression, but not with medication (based on my discussions with him). I believe he was seeing a therapist; however, he did tell me that he scaled back on how often he was seeing her/him.
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Yes, he was being treated for depression, but not with medication (based on my discussions with him). I believe he was seeing a therapist; however, he did tell me that he scaled back on how often he was seeing her/him.
:'(
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A friend of mine posted a suicide video on facebook just a week ago.. He was deprrssed and when his gf broke up with him he took a huge amount of of pills and filmed himself saying he loved his mom and that he is so tired of his life and only have 10-30minutes or so left before he will fall asleep forever and posted it on facebook.
People that saw the film called the cops and lucky one recognized where he was. They found him and managed to save his life... He was just minutes away.
Sad to hear that ekul went that way
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Ouch! PIP dude...
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll108/ethnopluralist/Smile/spider.gif)
"Rhetoric is the art of ruling the minds of men."
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:'(
He was still seeing the therapist regularly, however, I am beginning to wonder if he stopped going altogether toward the end. Who knows.
My last PM with him was on January 29th.
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That is sad. No woman is worth killing yourself over.
I agree from a rational standpoint, but we don't know the exact context of his suffering.
May he rest in peace :-\
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Mods, please make this post a sticky. With permission via pm, I will post details on his passing, but I'm not sure it's appropriate.
Everyone, please keep him in your thoughts, and have respect for his family and friends.
PIP, Ekul.
What details do you know of his passing?
I'll sticky this for a short time.
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A 24 year old from one of my gyms took his life last year over a woman and depression. From all outward appearances things were going well for him.
RIP
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RIP.
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What details do you know of his passing?
I'll sticky this for a short time.
PMed you.
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Wow this is really sad. Seemed like a good dude. I know for a while he was posting a lot of his bicycle ride videos. This comes as a shock, RIP Plato.
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I didn't know RP was Ekul. If he was taking all the drugs he talked about, then it isn't surprising it ended this way.
R.I.P. and I wish this hadn't happened. We will always miss you.
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Yes, very sad. I'd just thought of him, yesterday, wondering where he's been.
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Flicking through some of his posts this year, it becomes clear that he was having suicidal thoughts.
Personally, 60 will do me, I don't see too many people in their prime after this. I am just about to turn 43, I am ready to die at any time, I don't give a fuck, death doesn't bother me at all. Pain and suffering still does, but death, meh. I just don't worry about death, I often times tempt it I am sure, but hey living is for living right, you're a long time dead.
Good Stuff Man. I am going to investigate this some more. I feel I am at a crossroads in my life. I am just about to turn 43 and feel I have lived pretty much the way I want, I won't go into detail, but I have lived as a rebel on the fringes. I had a very abusive childhood that led me into an even more violent adult life. As you can imagine, such a life creates it's fair share of psychological and physical battle scars. Now I find myself asking is this it and I get a sense that the rest of my life is kind of knowable and predictable and I wonder do I really want to ride that wave in. I sometimes seriously consider jumping off the wave and waiting for the next one to come along (meaning the next life). For some people life isn't a bed of roses, it is a daily grind, one that isn't always apparent to the outside observer, it's living with a tormented psyche. For me I sometimes feel like a tortured soul and wonder how much more I can take. It's like I need to find something, and God doesn't do it for me, I know that much.
Oddly enough, Shizzo offered some help.
I hope I am not inferring to much into Radical Plato's posts, but suicide is never an option, my friend.
PM me, if you would like to discuss things privately.
I don't feel suicidal per se, just at a point in life where I am delving deep into existential issues and it has me questioning life long held values and meanings. I have never understood other people's concerns when others talk of suicide. I mean, how do we know what another is experiencing and how do we know that suicide isn't the best option for that person. I had a good friend commit suicide at 42, I know why he did it, I think for himself he probably did what he thought was best and who knows maybe it was. I know what his circumstances were and the remainder of his life would have probably consisted of many years of torment and misery. Who am I to say he should stick around and learn to enjoy being a masochist.
This is why I like the euthanasia movement, they don't try and talk anybody out of suicide, they advocate harm minimisation and the most effective ways to end your life. To be honest, I think if someone is determined to take their life, their isn't much you can say to prevent it. Suicide is a deeply deeply personal issue that happens to have broad social ramifications unfortunately. Like I said, not suicidal, just questioning the meaning of life, if there is such a thing.
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I don't think it is bad taste to remember the more fun and light hearted moments we had with Radical Plato. The "tbombz getting fucked in the ass" gif he made was hilarious.
I don't think I am allowed to post it, but it can be found by a google images search.
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Please, let's not turn this into an "outing" thread, and please give his family privacy. Let's make this a remembrance thread for the kooky son of a bitch we loved and knew as Ekul (Radical Plato).
On April 14, 2016, he lost his battle with depression, and is no longer with us.
We used to love kicking him in the nuts whenever we had the chance, and he loved giving it right back. He rolled with the punches and dished them out equally as well. Sadly, we will no longer have the opportunity to play these childish games with him. I used to love antagonizing him about American's and their firearms. I routinely offered him an open invitation to the US, so that I could take him target shooting and show him that guns aren't so bad. I also loved his threads about refurbishing exercise machines (he was truly gifted in this aspect). He would buy shitty machines online and make them look new again. He loved computers, gaming, MMA, guitars, bike rides, cats (fucking weirdo); but most of all, he loved Getbig. He will be missed like a brother.
RIP Ekul, Twaddle
"RUSSELL Luke My Dearly Beloved Son, Luke My world as I knew it has ended. My unconditional and never-ending love could not heal your tortured soul and broken heart. I tried so hard to get you to stay but your grief was so all consuming and overpowering and your pain beyond measure. My shattered heart will never repair. May you now have the peace you yearned for as we who loved you continue on, in deep sorrow, without you. I will carry your memory in my heart forever, and remember you with love all the days of my life. Your loving Mum, Kath."
"RUSSELL. Luke. Apr. 15, 2016 aged 43 Much loved brother of Andrew and brother-in-law of Catherine. Loved and loving uncle to Rose and Brock. We remember a brother with a cheeky smile who loved to play cricket but mostly only to bat. We remember the boy who loved to bang the goal through the two telephone poles and destroy the neighbour's fence. The boy who clung to his 'anklet' and came home covered in mud wearing his Sunday best. We remember the smiling uncle sitting with us, teaching us how to play guitar. We remember him just enjoying being with us and feel a deep sorrow that those days have gone and are not to come back. You were loved and still will be. May you find peace now, my beloved brother. I will miss you more than I can say. Love Andrew, Catherine, Rose and Brock."
(http://s32.postimg.org/9h6vhve4l/ekul_3.png)
(http://s32.postimg.org/it246b5fp/Ekul_1.png)
(http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/images/GetInvolved/AwarenessRibbon/Ribbon-1.png)
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RIP
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Depression is a bitch. :(
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Always assumed it was some young kid who simply wanted to play with his own toys by himself when he went on those rants.
He was pretty interesting at times. I had no idea he was in his 40s or suicidal.
Condolences to the family.
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:)
Einstein said "Imagination is more important than intelligence".
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He was a very intelligent man. Shame he was unable to combat his demons. If an afterlife exists, I hope he finds peace there.
:'(
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Yes, he was being treated for depression, but not with medication (based on my discussions with him). I believe he was seeing a therapist; however, he did tell me that he scaled back on how often he was seeing her/him.
:-[
Please please please people. If you are depressed, drunk, a junkie, schizo, whatever. Get help! And don't be afraid of medication!!!! It's never too late.
Everyone love a comeback.
PIP
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I already posted my condolences, but I'd just like to add that this tragic event has lead to some introspection (because I have multiple Sons for example) and I learned something shocking that maybe everyone else here knew, but ... Holy... Sh1t.... I had literally NO IDEA...
From Wikipedia Overview[edit]
In most countries the incidence of suicides is higher than the incidence of intentional homicides.
A 2006 report by the World Health Organisation (WHO) states that nearly a million people take their own lives every year, more than those murdered or killed in war.[2] WHO figures show a suicide takes place somewhere in the world roughly every 40 seconds.[3]
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If we're this sad, you can imagine how his family feels. This is a terrible loss.
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Please please please people. If you are depressed, drunk, a junkie, schizo Shizzo, whatever. Get help! And don't be afraid of medication!!!! It's never too late.
Everyone love a comeback.
PIP
fixed :D
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Very sad.
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is this the same guy who got bit by the pitbulls?
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is this the same guy who got bit by the pitbulls?
Yes.
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PIP
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Please please please people. If you are depressed, drunk, a junkie, schizo, whatever. Get help! And don't be afraid of medication!!!! It's never too late.
Everyone love a comeback.
PIP
The person himself wants a comeback but he doesn't see it. That's when reality has drifted too far apart from one's wishes.
You can only understand depression if you've been there yourself and you can only understand his particualr depression if you've lived his life.
And help only gets you so far
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Pretty darn nice to see GetBiggers come together at times like this!
RIP, Ekul.
We'll all be seeing you someday soon.
Most of us .... anyway!
Thanks, Twaddle.
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Incredibly sad news. I hope he's found peace and that his family is able to endure. Truly a shame.
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RIP....
Seeing this leaves me speechless. May he find the comfort he sought
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The thing about help is, if you're already a pretty intelligent person, very few words can get through. When the shit goes down, you can see the future - and the future is bleak, regardless of whether there might be a recovery at some stage. It feels a lot like a prison sentence.
You can see you might come out of it at some stage but first, you are condemned with spending a long time not wanting to come out of it - because coming out of it is accepting whatever happened and what sentence from a therapist convinces you to accept a scenario ahead of schedule? To me, fuck all could be said.
On top of that, you also know that even if you do manage to accept it (and you will learn to live with it, at least) it will be years, possibly decades before you get over it.
If he was posting stuff on facebook, he had something he hadn't accepted. The frequency of that should decrease over time.
I'd say I have almost accepted my particular situation. I stopped dreaming about it about 2 months ago. I used to relive it at least once a week, without the emotional filter (that is now pretty fucking great) that protects my waking thought. I'd wake, fucked up as if it happened that day. I couldn't even tell you how long it has been, every year has been a blur. It is either 3 or 4 years. I only just (like, a month) stopped posting my own sad cnut shit somewhere where I know the c u n t that did me up can read ::)
Time is the greatest therapist. Time served learning to accept the aftermath of some shit.
(Alternatively, you just meet some other delicious morsel but when you're an ugly guy who doesn't seem human beings as disposable (as I am), the road is wayyy harder, because there is very little chance of skipping all that time you know you must serve)
Anyway, that's just a slice of what sounds like his life was, for you - from the perspective of someone who is perhaps just about at the top of the hill.
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horrible.
depression is no joke. If you know someone who suffers...be there for them
PIP sir
:'(
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Something was really wrong with him and it was quite obvious.
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Something was really wrong with him and it was quite obvious.
how about dont be a dick for once and pay respect to the man
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how about dont be a dick for once and pay respect to the man
I believe in his own way, that was respectful. Very matter of fact.
#FeelTheBern
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Why? He wished death on tons of people, including myself a few times. I am not shocked at all by this. It was his choice and he knew full well the consequences. Go back and read his posts about suicide. He practically glorified it. Its safe to say he died doing what he wanted.
Do you think he would want you to feel sorry for him? (the funny thing about my post here, its sounds like something he would write if someone chose the same way out that he did)
He had a few interesting things to say, but he deemed us not worthy of his attention anymore and decided to end it.
Did not even consider us in the equation, or perhaps he did. Anyways, he would not want some gay tribute thread. He would want us to continue as always. He always said thats why he remained here.
Why??? Because we need to realize that mental health issues are real and not a fukin joke( yes depression too). Who gives a shit what his past posts said. It was obviously a cry for help.
Go on being the ass that you are. Karma
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Do I really need to lock this thread? ::)
Start a new thread if you want to argue.
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Do I really need to lock this thread? ::)
Start a new thread if you want to argue.
Thank you.
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Do I really need to lock this thread? ::)
Start a new thread if you want to argue.
or simply ban someone
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Quite sad. He seemed like an intelligent guy, but as people already said he had a lot of issues. I've been lurking on this board for a while, long enough where on occasions I'd see him online arguing with several different people at once just as I go to bed. I check the board the next morning about 9-10 hours later, and he's still going; he'd stayed awake that entire time just to argue non-stop with strangers on the internet. That ain't healthy :-\
I'm not an expert on mental health, but it seemed like he was using this place as some sort of medication/therapy for himself, if that makes sense. When he started posting about his drug use late last year, that was a recipe for disaster given his history and what he'd revealed about himself. I didn't know him personally, but 43 is far too young.
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Shit. Guy kind of reminded me of myself.
Well Luke, you stupid bastard, I wish you'd stuck around and muscled through a few more rough times. You didn't have a crystal ball to know every fucking thing that's ever going to happen. There's lots of good stuff in the world. You might have found your way to it if you hadn't bailed out. If you were just going to kill yourself anyway then you might as well have gotten on a plane to Oregon and undertaken a quest for Bigfoot. Fuck it, what would you have to lose? Maybe you would have ran into a cute local girl who thought your accent was sexy and whose uncle needed a hand with his logging business. Maybe you would have got mauled by a wolverine within 48 hours. Maybe you would have found Bigfoot, or at least met a lot of like minded loonies. I have no idea. Anything can happen out there. No matter how fucked up things are, no matter how sad you are, as long as there's life there's possibilities.
And that goes for the rest of you.
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Rip
I deal with depression all the time.
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Quite sad. He seemed like an intelligent guy, but as people already said he had a lot of issues. I've been lurking on this board for a while, long enough where on occasions I'd see him online arguing with several different people at once just as I go to bed. I check the board the next morning about 9-10 hours later, and he's still going; he'd stayed awake that entire time just to argue non-stop with strangers on the internet. That ain't healthy :-\
I'm not an expert on mental health, but it seemed like he was using this place as some sort of medication/therapy for himself, if that makes sense. When he started posting about his drug use late last year, that was a recipe for disaster given his history and what he'd revealed about himself. I didn't know him personally, but 43 is far too young.
Well said..
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Quite sad. He seemed like an intelligent guy, but as people already said he had a lot of issues. I've been lurking on this board for a while, long enough where on occasions I'd see him online arguing with several different people at once just as I go to bed. I check the board the next morning about 9-10 hours later, and he's still going; he'd stayed awake that entire time just to argue non-stop with strangers on the internet. That ain't healthy :-\
I'm not an expert on mental health, but it seemed like he was using this place as some sort of medication/therapy for himself, if that makes sense. When he started posting about his drug use late last year, that was a recipe for disaster given his history and what he'd revealed about himself. I didn't know him personally, but 43 is far too young.
Great post.
He could be a bit contentious and surly at times but he really was a unique and interesting guy.
Hate to the see the board lose someone like that.
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RIP.
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(http://s32.postimg.org/qg7ano96t/222.jpg)
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=580987.0
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He had a lot of hatred inside him and that can eat away at the soul. May he rest in peace.
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R.I.P.
Must of been a Tortured mind set for him to end it.
Sadly reading what his family had written it was a know & ongoing
Struggle & problem.
We can but wish he has released himself from the Anguish.
And he is in a better place.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=580987.0
Damn, that guy had a rough life.
I forgot his stories about his dad beating the shit out of him growing up.
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This is crazy. I found out a friend today committed suicide too, in Sydney too, only a few days ago. He competed in a few natural competitions a few years ago. I think couldn't get over the death of his mother a few years ago. He was a great bloke i'm pretty devastated by it.
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I'm sure others feel the way I do, but if any of y'all are hurting and considering suicide feel free to shoot me a PM and I'll be happy to help however I can. I'm certainly no counselor, but if I can help raise your spirits I'll do my best. There are folks like SF1900 that probably have recommendations for professional help because of his field of study and others here that understand the pain you're feeling. This board puts forth a lot of hate, but I think the majority of that is a facade. Again, if I can help in some way shoot me a note before doing something drastic. I'll pray with you, speak to you, tell you jokes, talk about bodybuilding, movies, bbq, life, whatever it is. I know there are many others on these boards that would drop whatever they are doing to lend a hand.
God bless!
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I didn't know RP was Ekul. If he was taking all the drugs he talked about, then it isn't surprising it ended this way.
R.I.P. and I wish this hadn't happened. We will always miss you.
I didn't know they were the same either. Two different styles of posting. EKul hated pit bulls and Americans but the Radical Plato seemed alright. I began to worry about his mental health when he began taking exctasy and other mind altering drugs. Sucks for the ones he left behind.
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This sucks - may his spirit be on to greater things.
A critical mind that will be missed.
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Didn't know he was e-kul. I think I really enjoyed E-kuls posts, but it was so long ago now.
Radical Plato seemed intelligent from what I gathered.
Pip
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I'm sure others feel the way I do, but if any of y'all are hurting and considering suicide feel free to shoot me a PM and I'll be happy to help however I can. I'm certainly no counselor, but if I can help raise your spirits I'll do my best. There are folks like SF1900 that probably have recommendations for professional help because of his field of study and others here that understand the pain you're feeling. This board puts forth a lot of hate, but I think the majority of that is a facade. Again, if I can help in some way shoot me a note before doing something drastic. I'll pray with you, speak to you, tell you jokes, talk about bodybuilding, movies, bbq, life, whatever it is. I know there are many others on these boards that would drop whatever they are doing to lend a hand.
God bless!
Much respect to you bro. You're a good guy.
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Much respect to you bro. You're a good guy.
When we lose Ekul like this it makes me reevaluate every interaction I have with folks on these boards. Never wanting to discourage someone even if they're on the attack against me.....it just isn't worth it. There may have been nothing any of us could have done for E, but it really makes me reevaluate like I said.
There's a whole group of men on these boards that invest a lot of time in discussion and laughs and all that. To lose one tragically like this....I just don't have the words.
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Much respect to you bro. You're a good guy.
He is!
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LOL, found this today while searching for the Tbombz space gif. Some of Ekul's work. Never knew he made that gif. :D
http://makeagif.com/user/LukeRussell/popular/1
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LOL, found this today while searching for the Tbombz space gif. Some of Ekul's work. Never knew he made that gif. :D
http://makeagif.com/user/LukeRussell/popular/1
LOL the kitchen lighting one was always a favorite of mine
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Very sad to hear this. PIP
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I think ekul would be laughing at most of the responses here.
Sometimes he irritated me, sometimes I liked his posts. Seemed pretty similar to me in a few ways... Overall a decent poster.
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When we lose Ekul like this it makes me reevaluate every interaction I have with folks on these boards. Never wanting to discourage someone even if they're on the attack against me.....it just isn't worth it. There may have been nothing any of us could have done for E, but it really makes me reevaluate like I said.
There's a whole group of men on these boards that invest a lot of time in discussion and laughs and all that. To lose one tragically like this....I just don't have the words.
I've thought of this many times. It seems that the people with the most consistent angry posts or the ones so quick to anger, possibly may have some other things going on in their lives. Take a look at social media and see the people who post angry post after angry post.
That being said, RP was an intelligent guy, I figure there were some other things going on in his life when he was going on his rants about feminism.
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Just saw this. I feel sad reading it, I esp. feel sad for his mother, no parent should see their kids dieing. Dude wanted out, life was an emotional torture for him, well he got out, that's probably the only real choice a person has. A good example how a family and upbringing can influence most of the persons life, a serious failure with female probably added to it also. He certainly sounded suicidal. Nothing else to say here really... These of you who feel similar way - I'm sure there are is at least one person that loves you, if you care about that person - keep going, however it hard may be sometimes.
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I'm sure others feel the way I do, but if any of y'all are hurting and considering suicide feel free to shoot me a PM and I'll be happy to help however I can. I'm certainly no counselor, but if I can help raise your spirits I'll do my best. There are folks like SF1900 that probably have recommendations for professional help because of his field of study and others here that understand the pain you're feeling. This board puts forth a lot of hate, but I think the majority of that is a facade. Again, if I can help in some way shoot me a note before doing something drastic. I'll pray with you, speak to you, tell you jokes, talk about bodybuilding, movies, bbq, life, whatever it is. I know there are many others on these boards that would drop whatever they are doing to lend a hand.
God bless!
You're a good man Bro!!
your brother in Christ,
Lucky
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Very sad when a fellow Getbigger passes!
My thoughts and prayers are with Radical Plato's family, especially his mother, whom he visited more often than his brothers did, according to one of his posts. She must be devastated.
Man of Steel is indeed a good man, a good reflection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
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Hate to hear about anyone dying.
Family and friends must be truly beat up over it. I hope he has found peace in the after if there is such a thing.
Godspeed from those who you illuminated and irritated.
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Very sad when a fellow Getbigger passes!
My thoughts and prayers are with Radical Plato's family, especially his mother, whom he visited more often than his brothers did, according to one of his posts. She must be devastated.
Man of Steel is indeed a good man, a good reflection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
You got that right.
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And don't be afraid of medication!!!!
Medication is probably the last thing anyone should be on, unless a severe hormone imbalance is observed. The way medication for suicidal tendencies works is that it surpresses certain moods. Especially in younger people it has the tendency to also surpress the fear of suicide or any other such feelings that may prevent you from going through with it. By far too many recipes are written out for the sake of convenience but with adverse effects, or simply turning people into zombies.
The human psyche is far more than simply an interplay of hormones. And is not as easily fixed. Deep rooted issues can only be effectively resolved, or otherwise made easier to live with through guidance and talking. Pro-actively trying to not block, but instead cope with certain thoughts.
We need to realize that mental health issues are real and not a fukin joke( yes depression too).
Regrettably psychology is still a developing field that only came around recently since like the 70s. Very little is known at this point, probably no more than 30%, and that's a high estimate.
Unfortunately the usual consensus is to look for long-term fixes, rather than short-term fixes. As such there is no immediate reward (solution) and finding a way to cope with certain feelings simply doesn't appear reasonable. Getting through day-by-day, week-by-week as such should take preference. As often no long-term fixes exist, though there are exceptions.
As someone else pointed out already, it's often difficult to convince someone of alternatives when they're entrenched with their own convictions. But talking does help, even if hearing someone elses' opinion/alternative may not seem feasible. Being pro-active and voicing your thoughts is more than just therapeutic but also liberating as you find out you're not alone, nor does your condition need to remain obstructive for-ever.
I regret to hear of Plato's passing, though I have no immediate connection to him, so I won't feign any real sentiment.
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I just saw this. Just got a knot in my stomach. RIP. Depression is nothing to joke about. My thoughts and sympathy go out to his family.
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RIP
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Medication is probably the last thing anyone should be on, unless a severe hormone imbalance is observed. The way medication for suicidal tendencies works is that it surpresses certain moods. Especially in younger people it has the tendency to also surpress the fear of suicide or any other such feelings that may prevent you from going through with it. By far too many recipes are written out for the sake of convenience but with adverse effects, or simply turning people into zombies.
The human psyche is far more than simply an interplay of hormones. And is not as easily fixed. Deep rooted issues can only be effectively resolved, or otherwise made easier to live with through guidance and talking. Pro-actively trying to not block, but instead cope with certain thoughts.
Regrettably psychology is still a developing field that only came around recently since like the 70s. Very little is known at this point, probably no more than 30%, and that's a high estimate.
Unfortunately the usual consensus is to look for long-term fixes, rather than short-term fixes. As such there is no immediate reward (solution) and finding a way to cope with certain feelings simply doesn't appear reasonable. Getting through day-by-day, week-by-week as such should take preference. As often no long-term fixes exist, though there are exceptions.
As someone else pointed out already, it's often difficult to convince someone of alternatives when they're entrenched with their own convictions. But talking does help, even if hearing someone elses' opinion/alternative may not seem feasible. Being pro-active and voicing your thoughts is more than just therapeutic but also liberating as you find out you're not alone, nor does your condition need to remain obstructive for-ever.
I regret to hear of Plato's passing, though I have no immediate connection to him, so I won't feign any real sentiment.
Some people that have paranoid/delusional disorder actually hear voices that tell them to kill themselves. The medication takes the voices away; but the user feels terrible when on the medication.
I know of somebody that couldn't stand the drugs, and came off. The voices came back. And unfortunately, this person listened to the voices and killed himself.
Note: in this case, the medication is not an anti-depressant, it's an anti-psychotic
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Quite sad. He seemed like an intelligent guy, but as people already said he had a lot of issues. I've been lurking on this board for a while, long enough where on occasions I'd see him online arguing with several different people at once just as I go to bed. I check the board the next morning about 9-10 hours later, and he's still going; he'd stayed awake that entire time just to argue non-stop with strangers on the internet. That ain't healthy :-\
I'm not an expert on mental health, but it seemed like he was using this place as some sort of medication/therapy for himself, if that makes sense. When he started posting about his drug use late last year, that was a recipe for disaster given his history and what he'd revealed about himself. I didn't know him personally, but 43 is far too young.
Spot on.
I'm deeply saddened to hear about this. I wish someone could have sat down with him, listened to him so he felt a sense of meaningful relatedness and understanding, and helped to get him on a different path. The shame with situations like this is that there is a depressive realism - he wasn't a dummy. And probably saw the world more accurately than any one of us. But he stewed in the negativity and let that become his primary focus. Whatever it was that caused him pain, he chose (consciously or subconsciously) to associate with that and identify with it too strongly. It won. And he took his life. Very sad indeed....
Long time poster who left the boards because of how destructive they become. It's bittersweet to have stumbled upon this thread. I'm very saddened to learn that ekul is no longer with us, but grateful to have learned about this so I can keep him in my thoughts for whatever it's worth. I love all you guys. If anyone else is struggling, delete your account, get some help in real life and don't look back. Life is worth living.
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E-kul. You were so angry in life. I hope you find rest, now. Legato. Legato.Piano.
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i'm very sorry to hear this, i hope he's finally at peace
E
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I remember him being very vocal regarding pitbulls.
Rest In Love.
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Makes me wonder, are there proven and effective ways to overcome a severe depression? Some self-help gurus would prob answer this with a strong 'yes', but really ???
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Makes me wonder, are there proven and effective ways to overcome a severe depression? Some self-help gurus would prob answer this with a strong 'yes', but really ???
Yes. You only need to go back in time and choose different parents for a person (or at least a different upbringing). The question sounds pretty much like: is there a proven to way to make a weak person strong? It really depends on how much and how many weaknesses does a said person possess. Are they inherited or acquired/learned...
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Makes me wonder, are there proven and effective ways to overcome a severe depression? Some self-help gurus would prob answer this with a strong 'yes', but really ???
Short answer, no.
For major depression, medication and therapy in combination is "associated with the best outcomes", but it's certainly not a cure. Some respond very well to treatment but others are essentially unable to be helped.
Our understanding of mental illness is limited, and so accordingly are the treatments available to us.
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Yes. You only need to go back in time and choose different parents for a person (or at least a different upbringing). The question sounds pretty much like: is there a proven to way to make a weak person strong? It really depends on how much and how many weaknesses does a said person possess. Are they inherited or acquired/learned...
I realize that it's a very general question since everyone's situation is different, and I understand the genetic & nurture part (upbringing, economics, social life, relationships, etc). I guess Ekul's inner damage was just to strong, no matter which therapy & meds he got.
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I realize that it's a very general question since everyone's situation is different, and I understand the genetic & nurture part (upbringing, economics, social life, relationships, etc). I guess Ekul's inner damage was just to strong, no matter which therapy & meds he got.
Exactly, sometime people are damaged (ironically, by their own families) way too much to be able to help them.. That's a sad state of affairs for many people, but they are big money for a big pharma, which create these "medications", which are essentially the same as alcohol or narcotics, just with less sides (and less obvious sides), numbs down a person to make it bearable.. Honestly, I'm not an expert in psychology, but I hardly believe there are any "cures" for major cases, it's just way too complicated and multidimensional, it's like a damaged version of operating system which runs software full of bugs. You have to not only install correct updates, to clean viruses, but sometimes you have to reinstall whole OS to make a difference, and it's pretty much impossible to do with a grown adult.
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Short answer, no.
For major depression, medication and therapy in combination is "associated with the best outcomes", but it's certainly not a cure. Some respond very well to treatment but others are essentially unable to be helped.
Our understanding of mental illness is limited, and so accordingly are the treatments available to us.
Drop the word "cure." There is no cure in the mental health field and no good therapist will endorse a 100% cure. I don't know why people even bring up the word "cure." It's the wrong word to use, and will hardly ever be used in a professional setting.
Treatment/psychotherapy has really only been around since the 1970's. In 40 years, there has been enormous strides. Obviously, compared to many other fields, its a relatively new field. Like any other field, we are limited by time and resources.
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Sad news, RIP
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i went back and read some of the interactions i had with him, i feel bad about some of the things i said
E
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Drop the word "cure." There is no cure in the mental health field and no good therapist will endorse a 100% cure. I don't know why people even bring up the word "cure." It's the wrong word to use, and will hardly ever be used in a professional setting.
Treatment/psychotherapy has really only been around since the 1970's. In 40 years, there has been enormous strides. Obviously, compared to many other fields, its a relatively new field. Like any other field, we are limited by time and resources.
With treatment, some people are able to make a complete recovery from their mental illness....It's as if the treatment "cured" them :o
And while psychiatry is still a nascent field, I'm not sure where you go the idea it only dates back to the 70's
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Sad. I liked his persona and posts on the boards.
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He had fun in life, so it wasn't all misery for him. He had fun here on Getbig and other places he mentioned, he had fun making Photoshops and getting reactions from them. He undoubtedly had fun in many ways.
Anyone buying and using drugs from most anywhere, though, including the stuff had on the "dark web" which RP mentioned getting, should know there are drugs out there which can break a person's mind and cause that person to want to self-destruct. So it becomes a race to either get over such overwhelming feelings or do something permanent which cannot be undone.
If he were here, no doubt he would agree. So be careful what you do.
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Strange thing is, I almost never even glance at the stickied threads.
Just a few minutes ago I did. :(
I had some cool back-and-forths with Radical Plato. Found him to be extremely intelligent and interesting. In my estimation, he added a lot to Getbig, whether you liked him or not.
I did.
This is all so terribly sad. What a downer.
But what I'm going to do is turn it around. If he couldn't find happiness in his final days, I am going to find some for myself, for him.
Hails to Radical Plato!
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Strange thing is, I almost never even glance at the stickied threads (?).
Just a few minutes ago I did.
:(
I had some cool back-and-forths with Radical Plato. Found him to be extremely intelligent and interesting. In my estimation, he added a lot to Getbig, whether you liked him or not.
I did.
This is all so terribly sad. What a downer.
But what I'm going to do is turn it around. If he couldn't find happiness in his final days, I am going to find some for myself, for him.
Hails to Radical Plato!
Here here! Go for a long bike ride in his honor. Film it on gopro if you have one.
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My condolences, RIP..
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PIP my at times cantankerous friend
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i went back and read some of the interactions i had with him, i feel bad about some of the things i said
E
I know I had a view interactions with him , but, I don't think I said anything that bad or rude to him.
Doesn't really matter now .
Sad he's gone now and I wish his family and loved ones any possible peace dealing with their loss.
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Strange thing is, I almost never even glance at the stickied threads (?).
Just a few minutes ago I did.
:(
I had some cool back-and-forths with Radical Plato. Found him to be extremely intelligent and interesting. In my estimation, he added a lot to Getbig, whether you liked him or not.
I did.
This is all so terribly sad. What a downer.
But what I'm going to do is turn it around. If he couldn't find happiness in his final days, I am going to find some for myself, for him.
Hails to Radical Plato!
this is well said, just saw this thread as well.
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eerie as hell: :-\
A good friend of mine committed suicide two years back, his wife was having an affair, and that on top of other issues tipped him over the edge and he hung humself in the backyard. I just got a copy of the coroners report today and found out that he was hung with his hands bound behind his back, his wife found him, and get this, called her lover to come over and help get him down. Then she rang the emergency services, oh and it only came out at the inquest that she was having an affair, and when asked why she didn't tell police at the time, she replied " I didn't think it was relevant" - Anyway, it has brought up a bad memory and the coroners finding has said there is nothing suspicious. I read the report, and they said it was possible to hang yourself with your hands behind your back, even though unusual. What do you think?
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I could empathize with many things Radical was saying. RIP.
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I could empathize with many things Radical was saying. RIP.
I say this without being facetious, if you find yourself empathising too much with his some of his more extreme views, seek help. It seemed to me that his views on women, for example, were a result of him projecting his inner state, which sadly, was even worse than he was letting on.
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Dang. RIP.
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We had our ups and downs he and I, this is true, but ultimately he was a very interesting person with passionate views towards a wide variety of topics.
I will miss him. Things like this always get to me. We've lost many great members.
RIP :'(
"1"
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Always tough to read things like this.
The past doesn't have to define who you are.
PIP
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Yes. You only need to go back in time and choose different parents for a person (or at least a different upbringing). The question sounds pretty much like: is there a proven to way to make a weak person strong? It really depends on how much and how many weaknesses does a said person possess. Are they inherited or acquired/learned...
Depression is not a weakness, no more then multiple sclerosis is, it's a physical illness of the brain, the changes are obvious.
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Makes me wonder, are there proven and effective ways to overcome a severe depression? Some self-help gurus would prob answer this with a strong 'yes', but really ???
Not when it's a chemical imbalance. I believe when it's a particular life situation that causes it, there's ALWAYS a way out.
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How do you determine the cause of a 'chemical imbalance' as distinct from 'life circumstance'?
Unless you have defined a disease, you can't.
Everybody wanna talk about chemical imbalances, but nobody wanna define no complicated ass diagnoses.
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Sorry to hear this, he was a good guy.
I know what it feels like when you feel it's just too much when i lost familymembers and friends years ago.
Wish him the best.
RIP.
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another gif made by radical plato (rest in peace buddy)
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-02-2014/9OCjRs.gif)
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Provided much entertainment around here, RIP.
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another gif made by radical plato (rest in peace buddy)
His gifs will life forever
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I remember seeing a post he made somewhere else (it was him, no doubt) about the story involving Ariella Palumbo's dog, who was in trouble for attacking someone while off-leash.
He went into saying how it wasn't uncommon for "narcissistic personalities" to have pitbulls in order to "fuel their delusions of grandeur and power" and he wrote a good few paragraphs on it that were amusing as can be. He was a very interesting and entertaining dude. I really can't believe he didn't recognize the humor in the stuff he said, and that he didn't have fun with it.
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Just saw this sticky..... very sad.
R.I.P. cyber friend, you will be missed here.
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I found that this is a good article and may help others who are going through something similar as RP went through.
https://www.caring.com/articles/depression-signs (https://www.caring.com/articles/depression-signs)
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Sorry to hear this, he was a good guy.
I know what it feels like when you feel it's just too much when i lost familymembers and friends years ago.
Wish him the best.
RIP.
Settle, down Chink.
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His situation happened to me (very very bad woman situation) about three years ago.
I almost did the same thing.
Nobody would have known and you wouldn't have known from my posts either. This isn't the place for that.
Good to hear you didn't. Not sure what your situation was but rejection and loss of trust in a woman you trusted can make you question everything that's made you stay straight and honest all your life.
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I hope that his family is doing well
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NOOO!!
Rest In Peace.
Missing You.
All The Best.
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I'll admit to thinking about this, a lot, which is strange since I didn't know him other than his posts.
But what a sad loss it is.
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RIP Getbigger
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NOOO!!
Rest In Peace.
Missing You.
All The Best.
Huh?
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Huh?
All the best in heaven ::)
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All the best in heaven ::)
He didn't believe, friend.
Forever at peace. No Cloud Disney for rationals.
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RIP
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did radical plato have a cardassian av?
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did radical plato have a cardassian av?
His was Plato, until he changed it to his most recent:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll108/ethnopluralist/Smile/spider.gif)
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I'm going to unsticky this now, been up long enough.
RIP
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Hard to believe that soon it will be the 2 year anniversary of his passing
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Hard to believe that soon it will be the 2 year anniversary of his passing
Was a great poster.
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I'm going to name my next pitbull ekul.
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I'm going to name my next pitbull ekul.
:D
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Settle, down Chink.
But wait, weren't you calling Trump a racist?
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i was suicidal when i was younger...hated myself...i didnt do it because i knew it would hurt my father and my sisters...i felt like i was backed in a corner with no escape...
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I'm going to name my next pitbull ekul.
Brutal. ;D
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i was suicidal when i was younger...hated myself...i didnt do it because i knew it would hurt my father and my sisters...i felt like i was backed in a corner with no escape...
most of them feel like they are doing their family a favor
E
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Pip brother, life is hard.