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i've been eating a kilo of chicken breast a day for years with about half a kilo of rice
is there a cheaper way?
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Makes no difference really what you eat.
Just pick a caloric amount and fill it. You will choose foods that you like by default and you will look the exact same if you were to try to limit your choices.
Makes no difference at all. That SHOULD help.
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Makes no difference really what you eat.
Just pick a caloric amount and fill it. You will choose foods that you like by default and you will look the exact same if you were to try to limit your choices.
Makes no difference at all. That SHOULD help.
what about proteins brah ???
how many for maximal gains when using gear ???
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A can of Tuna and a tub of cottage cheese mix surprisingly well for a high protein lunch.
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A can of Tuna and a tub of cottage cheese mix surprisingly well for a high protein lunch.
a can of tuna is way more expensive than frozen chicken breast, protein gram per protein gram
it also reeks like a diseased whore
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a can of tuna is way more expensive than frozen chicken breast, protein gram per protein gram
it also reeks like a diseased whore
Tuna is like 3 bucks for 4 cans. You are not getting chicken cheaper then that.
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a can of tuna is way more expensive than frozen chicken breast, protein gram per protein gram
it also reeks like a diseased whore
Who the fuck would buy an already frozen chicken breast? ???
That just fucking awful.
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Tuna is like 3 bucks for 4 cans. You are not getting chicken cheaper then that.
i pay about 5,63 euro per kilo of chicken breast which is theoretically 220grams of protein
tuna is expensive here and smells disgusting
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Tuna is like 3 bucks for 4 cans. You are not getting chicken cheaper then that.
You can easily if you know how to buy directly from farms or even find a Mexican meat market that raises their own chickens.
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You can easily if you know how to buy directly from farms or even find a Mexican meat market that raises their own chickens.
So you put Mexican meat in your mouth? :D
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So you put Mexican meat in your mouth? :D
All the time. They have extremely good vegetables as well and will help you track down rare herbs even. I have a few that I go to that are pretty amazing.
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i pay about 5,63 euro per kilo of chicken breast which is theoretically 220grams of protein
tuna is expensive here and smells disgusting
my friend you must hunt for your own food
dont startle the animal though or the food will be tough
cheers
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my friend you must hunt for your own food
dont startle the animal though or the food will be tough
cheers
this is branch warren's way of life
he's an inspiration in more ways than one
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Eggs are very cheap and take a few minutes to cook in the microwave
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my friend you must hunt for your own food
dont startle the animal though or the food will be tough
cheers
haha this is actually very true , a kill shot before the adrenaline is able to spread throughout the body makes a big difference in the taste of dear meat.
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Eggs & Milk
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is protein isolate real? (european brands, not fake american bullshit) it could be cheaper than chicken breast
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All the time.
yes homo
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haha this is actually very true , a kill shot before the adrenaline is able to spread throughout the body makes a big difference in the taste of dear meat.
How did you arrive at this conclusion? Have you shot and eaten both ways? I'd be very interested in hearing the stories. Also, how many times have you conducted this experiment?
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eggs
rice with ketchup
and low fat curd cheese with sweetener and w/e you want
(https://images.gutefrage.net/media/fragen/bilder/ist-das-magerquark-/0_original.jpg)
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eggs
rice with ketchup
and low fat curd cheese with sweetener and w/e you want
(https://images.gutefrage.net/media/fragen/bilder/ist-das-magerquark-/0_original.jpg)
Rice without ketchup is cheaper
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Rice without ketchup is cheaper
i agree. but with ketchup is such a delight. cannot stop eating that stuff
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i pay about 5,63 euro per kilo of chicken breast which is theoretically 220grams of protein
tuna is expensive here and smells disgusting
must be absolute shit chicken, probably imported from hungary or brazil - disgusting, eu laws are shit when it comes to keeping of animals.
(http://www.biokontakte.com/wp-content/gallery/mrsa-gefaehrliches-gefluegel/gal_huehnermast-10_dokumentiere_de.jpg)
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McDonald's and eggs
And all the nancies under 200lbs say fart powder isn't worth it
But it is
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must be absolute shit chicken, probably imported from hungary or brazil - disgusting, eu laws are shit when it comes to keeping of animals.
(http://www.biokontakte.com/wp-content/gallery/mrsa-gefaehrliches-gefluegel/gal_huehnermast-10_dokumentiere_de.jpg)
maybe it contains chemicals that cause baldness
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Reside in your parent's converted attic and spend your allowance on tren and prostitutes.
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maybe it contains chemicals that cause baldness
Your already injecting those. EQ and test. :D
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Your already injecting those. EQ and test. :D
well i started losing hair before ever touching gear
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Chicken breast is the cheapest meat and oatmeal is probably the cheapest carbs.
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Chicken breast is the cheapest meat and oatmeal is probably the cheapest carbs.
whey protein isolate is still cheaper than chicken breast
is it legit or just "fart powder" ???
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lb for lb I'm getting more frozen cod than chicken breasts, if you went to Pollock or generic "white fish" it would be even cheaper...
There's nothing wrong with protein powder either
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5.63 Euro equals $6.26 United States.
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must be absolute shit chicken, probably imported from hungary or brazil - disgusting, eu laws are shit when it comes to keeping of animals.
(http://www.biokontakte.com/wp-content/gallery/mrsa-gefaehrliches-gefluegel/gal_huehnermast-10_dokumentiere_de.jpg)
chicken killed in other countries can only be sold in the US as precooked. So, if you are buying frozen chicken, you are more then likely eating some nasty bird.
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chicken killed in other countries can only be sold in the US as precooked. So, if you are buying frozen chicken, you are more then likely eating some nasty bird.
sounds like a typical Saturday night for some on here.
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5.63 Euro equals $6.26 United States.
About 3 bucks a pound for frozen chicken breast. About $45 a week. The rice is what, another 15 max? So all this discussion bitching is about a $60 a week grocery bill?
You can make at least that much in 1 day panhandling.
$200 week on groceries is $10,400 a year.
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sounds like a typical Saturday night for some on here.
unless you're The True Adonis, he prefers a thick mexican meat.
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About 3 bucks a pound for frozen chicken breast. About $45 a week. The rice is what, another 15 max? So all this discussion bitching is about a $60 a week grocery bill?
You can make at least that much in 1 day panhandling.
$200 week on groceries is $10,400 a year.
$200 week on groceries for ONE person. What are you buying yourself? I can get by spending like $50 a week. Then again, I am not a big meat eater and I don't gorge myself with meal after meal, with huge portions.
Maybe 200 for a couple with a kid.
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$200 week on groceries for ONE person. What are you buying yourself? I can get by spending like $50 a week. Then again, I am not a big meat eater and I don't gorge myself with meal after meal, with huge portions.
Maybe 200 for a couple with a kid.
you're telling me you can live on $7 per day spending on food, comfortably
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you're telling me you can live on $7 per day spending on food, comfortably
Yes.
If i buy a few bags of spinach and salad and assorted vegetables, that lasts me a few days. I eat smaller portions these days and eat less frequently. Remember, during the day, I only eat one time, then I eat again at night. Then a few snacks here and there. And I only drink water. And I don't waste any food.
When you don't needless buy food and don't waste food, you'd be surprised how much money you can save. Everything I buy I consume. We buy too much, eat too often, and eat too much.
Research shows: "The cost of feeding a family of four a healthy diet can run $146 to $289 a week, according to the latest numbers from the U.S. Department of Agriculture." So, lets pretend 4 people cost 200. How much should one person cost? ??? ???
I just found this from the USDA
Weekly cost for 1 person age 19-50:
Thrifty:43
Low cost:55
moderate cost: 70
Liberal: 86
So, let me bump that up. I probably spend between 50-70 a week, lets say 60. If I spent $86 dollars per week on food, Id be throwing a lot out.
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$200 week on groceries for ONE person. What are you buying yourself? I can get by spending like $50 a week. Then again, I am not a big meat eater and I don't gorge myself with meal after meal, with huge portions.
Maybe 200 for a couple with a kid.
most people can eat well for 50 $ per week if you prepare your own meals. :)
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$200 week on groceries for ONE person. What are you buying yourself? I can get by spending like $50 a week. Then again, I am not a big meat eater and I don't gorge myself with meal after meal, with huge portions.
Maybe 200 for a couple with a kid.
I didn't say I spend $200 a week, just picked a figure 3 times what was being discussed to show that even that only amounts to a pittance in a year overall. BUT since you mentioned it, think about how little extra money it is to eat like a king. Think of how much more money people waste on silly shit.
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Yes.
If i buy a few bags of spinach and salad and assorted vegetables, that lasts me a few days. I eat smaller portions these days and eat less frequently
I live in NY, shop at shoprite. A typical bag of those greens is around $3 minimum, and they have like 40 total calories per bag, that's like living on air. Buying just a couple of those already is near or exceeds your initial $ daily allowance. And shoprite is like one of the cheaper stores.
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I live in NY, shop at shoprite. A typical bag of those greens is around $3 minimum, and they have like 40 total calories per bag, that's like living on air. Buying just a couple of those already is near or exceeds your initial $ daily allowance. And shoprite is like one of the cheaper stores.
Yes a spinach salad for lunch and then something unspecified but "light" for dinner. The caloric intake of a skinny 70 yr old woman. Probably also enjoys a nice bowl of soup on a drizzly day.
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I live in NY, shop at shoprite. A typical bag of those greens is around $3 minimum, and they have like 40 total calories per bag, that's like living on air. Buying just a couple of those already is near or exceeds your initial $ daily allowance. And shoprite is like one of the cheaper stores.
I live in NY too. I also buy some fruits and veggies and I am good to go. I don't eat much.
If I spend 60 a week, and I buy 5 bags, that is 15 bucks and leaves me 45 for fruits and veggies. I buy oatmeal and pasta in bulk from Costco and it lasts me a while.
You seem to be very concerned or discomforted by my diet. Thank you for your concern.
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Yes a spinach salad for lunch and then something unspecified but "light" for dinner. The caloric intake of a skinny 70 yr old woman. Probably also enjoys a nice bowl of soup on a drizzly day.
French onion soup is good.
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I live in NY too. I also buy some fruits and veggies and I am good to go. I don't eat much.
If I spend 60 a week, and I buy 5 bags, that is 15 bucks and leaves me 45 for fruits and veggies. I buy oatmeal and pasta in bulk from Costco and it lasts me a while.
You seem to be very concerned or discomforted by my diet. Thank you for your concern.
Nah man, I'm just looking for ways to save myself. I thought I was being frugal but some of you guys in here school me.
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I live in NY too. I also buy some fruits and veggies and I am good to go. I don't eat much.
If I spend 60 a week, and I buy 5 bags, that is 15 bucks and leaves me 45 for fruits and veggies. I buy oatmeal and pasta in bulk from Costco and it lasts me a while.
You seem to be very concerned or discomforted by my diet. Thank you for your concern.
I think I've already said this but my older brother is vegan (but not an ass about it! ;D) and grows a lot of what he eats. He's healthy too. Trains a couple of times a week on H.I.T. and enjoys life with his wife in Oregon.
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Nah man, I'm just looking for ways to save myself. I thought I was being frugal but some of you guys in here school me.
As I said, we buy far too much and waste far too much. Its also about portion control. In America, we gorge ourselves. Ive been eating A LOT cleaner these days, smaller portions. It really has helped me physically. You don't waste any food and save a few bucks.
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I think I've already said this but my older brother is vegan (but not an ass about it! ;D) and grows a lot of what he eats. He's healthy too. Trains a couple of times a week on H.I.T. and enjoys life with his wife in Oregon.
I still eat meat, but very sparingly. Best decision I ever made was switching my diet.
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I still eat meat, but very sparingly. Best decision I ever made was switching my diet.
But how much he do you spend on supplements per month?
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I still eat meat, but very sparingly. Best decision I ever made was switching my diet.
I don't eat as much of anything as I did just five years ago. I am nearing 60 and while I will continue to train, I must do so within reason. I do have a very fast metabolism and it has been this way all my life. I've been told by doctors, "Just wait until you turn 18...21..25...30...40... 50". My maternal grandfather had the same "problem" and was a rail until he passed away and that was with drinking up several 2,000+ calorie shakes (made by my mom) a day.
I eat until I am full, then I stop. Until I am hungry again! ;D
The only supplement I take is one of those pre-workout concoctions. Either that or a Monster Energy Drink. ;D
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Did you stop living in your momma attic, and have to pay for your own food, at 38?
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But how much he do you spend on supplements per month?
$0.00
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Did you stop living in your momma attic, and have to pay for your own food, at 38?
i told her i'll move out at 50
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I live in NY, shop at shoprite. A typical bag of those greens is around $3 minimum, and they have like 40 total calories per bag, that's like living on air. Buying just a couple of those already is near or exceeds your initial $ daily allowance. And shoprite is like one of the cheaper stores.
For most adult males, that isn't a reasonable figure. I live in midtown nyc, too. SF1900 actually changed his diet in part because of things I said to him in a previous thread, but the truth is cutting down on meat and placing an emphasis on vegetables in your diet isn't going to save you a ton of money. To make filling meals, it's virtually a wash in terms of price and it's far more time consuming. If he's saving money, it's not because he's on a veggie centric diet, it's because he's taking a very minimalist approach to eating that a lot of people would consider too restrictive. There are a LOT of benefits to cutting down on meat consumption, but saving money is not one of them. This really gets driven home if you have to eat out. There's a deli downstairs from our apartment where a tossed salad and a burger and fries with a free can of soda are the same price. With the exception of Indian places, most middlemarket places that have good vegetarian food are more expensive than places that serve meat entrees.
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For most adult males, that isn't a reasonable figure. I live in midtown nyc, too. SF1900 actually changed his diet in part because of things I said to him in a previous thread, but the truth is cutting down on meat and placing an emphasis on vegetables in your diet isn't going to save you a ton of money. To make filling meals, it's virtually a wash in terms of price and it's far more time consuming. If he's saving money, it's not because he's on a veggie centric diet, it's because he's taking a very minimalist approach to eating that a lot of people would consider too restrictive. There are a LOT of benefits to cutting down on meat consumption, but saving money is not one of them. This really gets driven home if you have to eat out. There's a deli downstairs from our apartment where a tossed salad and a burger and fries with a free can of soda are the same price. With the exception of Indian places, most middlemarket places that have good vegetarian food are more expensive than places that serve meat entrees.
I don't know why you keep saying this. ??? ??? It's not true. But, hey, whatever makes you sleep better at night. :D :D If you feel like you helped me, that is all that matters.
And, yes, a large part of my savings is more of a minimalist approach. I began to only buy food that I know I will eat and won't get bad and get thrown away. I don't eat six times per day any more. And I eat much smaller portions (I do not gorge myself any more). And, Ive also been engaging in bouts of intermittent fasting.
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I don't know why you keep saying this. ??? ??? It's not true. But, hey, whatever makes you sleep better at night. :D :D If you feel like you helped me, that is all that matters.
In several threads, you have repeated the same semi-vegetarian talking points I directed at you less than 6 months . Sure, there were almost certainly other factors, but just the fact that you repeat so closely what I said makes it pretty clear that you took what I said to heart. Don't know why you're making this an issue. ???
Also, what you eat has no effect on how I sleep at night.
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In several threads, you have repeated the same semi-vegetarian talking points I directed at you less than 6 months . Sure, there were almost certainly other factors, but just the fact that you repeat so closely what I said makes it pretty clear that you took what I said to heart. Don't know why you're making this an issue. ???
Also, what you eat has no effect on how I sleep at night.
No, actually, what I took to heart was receiving my blood work back and talking to my doctor and a nutritional expert. But, hey, whatever you want to tell yourself. :D :D
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No, actually, what I took to heart was receiving my blood work back and talking to my doctor and a nutritional expert. But, hey, whatever you want to tell yourself. :D :D
::) Aren't you like 30 and allegedly work out regularly? How could your blood work have been so bad that your doctor would recommend cutting out all food aside from 2 salads a day? You've mentioned several reasons over the course of several threads about why you switched to a veggie- centric diet. None of them were " doctor's orders". Many of them were things I've said to you in the recent past.
But, sure, whatever I need to tell myself. ;)
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A lot of research points to 1.3g protein/lb bw. (The Protein Book by Lyle Mcdonald). Also, it's been shown that the protein source does not matter.
Egg whites, tuna, chicken breast, low fat cottage cheese, red meat sometimes. Rice, brocolli, asparagus, esentially most of the veggies carry small amount of calories and will fill you up. 20mg of oxymetholone/day for 6 months, low amount of alcohol or other liver metabolized compounds and you're good to go.
Or 37.5mg tren eod for 6 months would be even better. Don't forget HCG, 250IU 2x/week to keep the boys in check. Pause every 6 weeks for 2 weeks off and 10mg tamoxifen/day during this period to resensitize testes to HCG.
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::) Aren't you like 30 and allegedly work out regularly? How could your blood work have been so bad that your doctor would recommend cutting out all food aside from 2 salads a day? You've mentioned several reasons over the course of several threads about why you switched to a veggie- centric diet. None of them were " doctor's orders". Many of them were things I've said to you in the recent past.
But, sure, whatever I need to tell myself. ;)
1. I tend not to discuss personal matters on Getbig, so why would I disclose my medical history? But for the sake of this discussion, I did, but I generally do not. Thus, why I did not initially mention it.
2. The only thing that was slightly elevated was my cholesterol, but I'm more on the anxious side, so I take things to extreme.
3. He did not recommend me only eating 2 salads a day. They provided me with a general framework to lower my cholesterol, and since I'm anxious, I just took it to the extreme.
4. All of my information and current diet came from reading peer-reviewed articles on this topic.
But, hey, whatever you have to tell yourself. :D
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1. I tend not to discuss personal matters on Getbig, so why would I disclose my medical history? But for the sake of this discussion, I did, but I generally do not. Thus, why I did not initially mention it.
2. The only thing that was slightly elevated was my cholesterol, but I'm more on the anxious side, so I take things to extreme.
3. He did not recommend me only eating 2 salads a day. They provided me with a general framework to lower my cholesterol, and since I'm anxious, I just took it to the extreme.
4. All of my information and current diet came from reading peer-reviewed articles on this topic.
But, hey, whatever you have to tell yourself. :D
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For most adult males, that isn't a reasonable figure. I live in midtown nyc, too. SF1900 actually changed his diet in part because of things I said to him in a previous thread, but the truth is cutting down on meat and placing an emphasis on vegetables in your diet isn't going to save you a ton of money. To make filling meals, it's virtually a wash in terms of price and it's far more time consuming. If he's saving money, it's not because he's on a veggie centric diet, it's because he's taking a very minimalist approach to eating that a lot of people would consider too restrictive. There are a LOT of benefits to cutting down on meat consumption, but saving money is not one of them. This really gets driven home if you have to eat out. There's a deli downstairs from our apartment where a tossed salad and a burger and fries with a free can of soda are the same price. With the exception of Indian places, most middlemarket places that have good vegetarian food are more expensive than places that serve meat entrees.
I agree. Produce is in general is not that cheap, plus it is low in calories and doesn't sustain. I would think with such a low budget, you're looking at beans and rice, canned fish, other dry grains, peanut butter, and cheap canned stuff. and even that can easily creep up in price. You gotta eat.
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You guys both got your information from me anyway so in reality I'm the mastermind behind all of this improved health......
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Whole lotta peasants sweating chicken prices in this thread..
True getbiggers grow mass off unicorn steaks and great white shark Pâté
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I agree. Produce is in general is not that cheap, plus it is low in calories and doesn't sustain. I would think with such a low budget, you're looking at beans and rice, canned fish, other dry grains, peanut butter, and cheap canned stuff. and even that can easily creep up in price. You gotta eat.
I think it's great whenever anyone does anything to benefit their health, but I think it's disingenuous to pretend you don't understand how other people would have higher grocery bills because you've been following an abnormally strict diet for a short period of time.
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You guys both got your information from me anyway so in reality I'm the mastermind behind all of this improved health......
The thing is this isn't just me claiming to be the first person to follow a particular diet and anyone who does the same thing is copying me and should credit me. We actually conversed on the topic. He said that he considered becoming a vegetarian but it would be too hard. I told him to check out a particular vegetarian restaurant in NYC and that one option was to just do a more veggie-centric diet (which is what I do) because even that would have benefits. Then a few months later, he makes an about face and is repeating what I told him in different threads. I'm not saying I'm the only factor, but what he's been saying is so derivative of the things I said to him that it's impossible not to realize they're linked. To be honest, I get the defensiveness. We have a relationship that is sometimes contentious and I often point out when he's wrong about things, so I get that it would hurt his pride to admit I actually impacted his life off of the board...which was the entire reason I brought it up. :D
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Huge bowls of tuna,elbow macaroni and mayo.........Jeff King ate this all day off-season.
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mcgriddle
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Huge bowls of tuna,elbow macaroni and mayo.........Jeff King ate this all day off-season.
Did he eat it cold? That actually sounds pretty good.
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Whole lotta peasants sweating chicken prices in this thread..
True getbiggers grow mass off unicorn steaks and great white shark Pâté
the goal is to get as rich and jacked as possible
i was in the supermarket, wanted to buy an energy drink, saw it was 3 buy + 1 free, took 4
walked around the supermarket for 2 minutes thinking about the long term consequences of the purchase
left it in the shop and walked out without buying anything
it's tough being a penny pinching jew
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Grilled bacon + scrambled eggs for breakfast
Thick filling sandwiches with fruit and a 50 protein grams shake in milk for dinner
Large serving of Chicken breast with pasta or egg noodles for tea
An easy 300grams of protein a day and decent nice enjoyable food with not to much shite food, life is for living if bodybuilding isnt your career why exist on twatfull food or spend all day carrying about those Tupperware containers. Cheap too
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Grilled bacon + scrambled eggs for breakfast
Thick filling sandwiches with fruit and a 50 protein grams shake in milk for dinner
Large serving of Chicken breast with pasta or egg noodles for tea
An easy 300grams of protein a day and decent nice enjoyable food with not to much shite food, life is for living if bodybuilding isnt your career why exist on twatfull food or spend all day carrying about those Tupperware containers. Cheap too
hard to imagine that being 300 grams protein
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hard to imagine that being 300 grams protein
Obviously the portions are half decent
Half a pound of bacon and 6 large eggs got to be close to 100
50 grams whey in a pint of milk (16) plus 35 for sandwich
400g chicken (close to 100)
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The answer to this thread question is MILK.
Low fat, half fat or whole, depending on how much fat you want to lose or gain.
Costs almost nothing.
This should end this thread....thank you all for participating and see you on the next thread.
Says Dr Dutch, MD and MSc in biology.....
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The answer to this thread question is MILK.
Low fat, half fat or whole, depending on how much fat you want to lose or gain.
Costs almost nothing.
This should end this thread....thank you all for participating and see you on the next thread.
Says Dr Dutch, MD and MSc in biology.....
i doubt that healthy
says anabolichalo, phd in bodybuilding kinetics and nutrition
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i doubt that healthy
says anabolichalo, phd in bodybuilding kinetics and nutrition
Question was cheapest, not healthiest.... >:(
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Question was cheapest, not healthiest.... >:(
lol fair
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walked around the supermarket for 2 minutes thinking about the long term consequences of the purchase
Lol I do that all the f-ing time because I'm broke
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If you want to get maximum gains, then cutting your food budget is the last thing you want to cut!
Better cut your budget for distractions from training, such as cell phones, and cable TV!
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i eat eggs and oatmeal with coffee for breakfast, mcds or burger king for lunch and some other shit meal for dinner and it's working well for me
how big are your arms now bro?
i gotta bring up my tris so i'm pounding them twice a week with mostly overhead shit and some dips with elbows close, back, and tight and torso erect (no homo)
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Lol I do that all the f-ing time because I'm broke
Man I fucking hate shopping for groceries when you're broke. For about 2 years in college, I remember counting literal pennies on every item I would buy, and if you count wrong, the shame puting an item back. :(
Worst then that though, was no insurance during those times too.
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eggs and oatmeal for breakfast, tuna and poptarts for pre-workout meal. 2 scoops whey and pop tarts or oats post workout, chicken and rice for 3rd and 4th meal, ground beef and rice for 5th meal.
I eat for well under $500/month including eating out once/twice a week. It helps if you don't waste $ on things like diet soda and energy drinks etc. but I still do buy VPX Bang by the 12 case.
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chicken thighs cheaper than breasts
trim off xs fat if youre wanting leaner thighs
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i've been eating a kilo of chicken breast a day for years with about half a kilo of rice
is there a cheaper way?
Yepp. Eat 200 gram of chicken evryday and up the rice! U will feel much better being able to train heavier, and become stronger.
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Makes no difference really what you eat.
Just pick a caloric amount and fill it. You will choose foods that you like by default and you will look the exact same if you were to try to limit your choices.
Makes no difference at all. That SHOULD help.
Fucking great answer. This man have reached the level of awakening! I like people having brains. Start to feel notice how the body work and function and fuck off with all media propaganda made up by fartpowders
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i eat eggs and oatmeal with coffee for breakfast, mcds or burger king for lunch and some other shit meal for dinner and it's working well for me
how big are your arms now bro?
i gotta bring up my tris so i'm pounding them twice a week with mostly overhead shit and some dips with elbows close, back, and tight and torso erect (no homo)
How much you reckon' you are weighing in at nowadays?
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How much you reckon' you are weighing in at nowadays?
bout a buck 75
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you still look like someone threw acid on your face?
how's the stalking coming along weirdo?
you're a pussy
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Makes no difference really what you eat.
Just pick a caloric amount and fill it. You will choose foods that you like by default and you will look the exact same if you were to try to limit your choices.
Makes no difference at all. That SHOULD help.
So, if i only drink 8 cans of coka and get my calorie amount, it will be ok ? 😂
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So, if i only drink 8 cans of coka and get my calorie amount, it will be ok ? 😂
I think TA's calorie meme contains getting your macros. I think he doesn't list that since it's pretty easy to do if you eat reasonably.
8 cans of coka would not accomplish that.
And what the fuck is coka?
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Peanut butter, rice cakes, honey, rice, beans, chicken, turkey.
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prepped my lunch last night
forgot it in the frigde this morning
during my lunch i went to a super market looking at tasty prepared meals and sandwhiches
thought about it for a moment, realized i'd rather keep the money and went back to work
after all why work in the first place if ur gonna waste ur money like a fool :-\
found comfort that gear will prevent catabolism and my chicken and rice is waiting for me at home
altho i had breakfast at 05:30 am and my second meal just now at 08:30
i guess as long as i get all the food in, the time between meals, and size of meals doesnt matter right ???
what about if the time between meals is 2 days? what then? ??? ???
i still strugle with these mysteries, but as always there are no answers only questions
this is bodybuilding after all
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The answer to this thread question is MILK.
Low fat, half fat or whole, depending on how much fat you want to lose or gain.
Costs almost nothing.
This should end this thread....thank you all for participating and see you on the next thread.
Says Dr Dutch, MD and MSc in biology.....
lots of sugar in it.
there is lower sugar milk these days but in general,,,
chicken and rice or tuna and rice, steak and rice is a better choice.
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sometimes there is sales on beef.
take advantage of that and buy alot when there is, and put in the freezer
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prepped my lunch last night
forgot it in the frigde this morning
during my lunch i went to a super market looking at tasty prepared meals and sandwhiches
thought about it for a moment, realized i'd rather keep the money and went back to work
after all why work in the first place if ur gonna waste ur money like a fool :-\
found comfort that gear will prevent catabolism and my chicken and rice is waiting for me at home
altho i had breakfast at 05:30 am and my second meal just now at 08:30
i guess as long as i get all the food in, the time between meals, and size of meals doesnt matter right ???
what about if the time between meals is 2 days? what then? ??? ???
i still strugle with these mysteries, but as always there are no answers only questions
this is bodybuilding after all
WHEN your lean which I know you are and I've noticed with myself as well ,ever notice you could meal time and eat same meals/protein.carbs and amounts and look flat some days and other days wing it and u look in mirror or after a good pump your like damn what changed,so many variables ..
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WHEN your lean which I know you are and I've noticed with myself as well ,ever notice you could meal time and eat same meals/protein.carbs and amounts and look flat some days and other days wing it and u look in mirror or after a good pump your like damn what changed,so many variables ..
yeah i see crazy quick changes in tightness and fullness
but mainly i am impressed by how quickly i seemingly get leaner when i clean up my diet (meaning eating heaps of rice and chicken but cut out the pastries, kebabs and booze)
it's like it's happening overnight
i wish arms grew that fast :-\
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yeah i see crazy quick changes in tightness and fullness
but mainly i am impressed by how quickly i seemingly get leaner when i clean up my diet (meaning eating heaps of rice and chicken but cut out the pastries, kebabs and booze)
it's like it's happening overnight
i wish arms grew that fast :-\
I like hanging out and outside hot weather and glass of wine and all veins bi's and forearms are crazy ..
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I like hanging out and outside hot weather and glass of wine and all veins bi's and forearms are crazy ..
never noticed much of that
but a whole night of slamming down vodka, come home at dawn: veins fucking everywhere
like that time in navymikes "progress thread" where i photobombed the thread with a front doubel bicep viens everywhere in the abs and chest alsso
really flat tho
i had health look of peace from all that eq rbc
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i guess as long as i get all the food in, the time between meals, and size of meals doesnt matter right ???
THIS
just get your daily calories in and it's doesn't fucking matter if it's in one goddamn meal or 15 goddamn meals
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THIS
just get your daily calories in and it's doesn't fucking matter if it's in one goddamn meal or 15 goddamn meals
so why you avoiding the rest of that question ?
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so why you avoiding the rest of that question ?
the rest of it was basically just talking bout shit you did that day, unless you mean this question: "what about if the time between meals is 2 days? what then?"
and if so then once again it's about getting your daily calories in each day so if you don't get them in one day you could probably make up for it the next day coz if you are trying to lose weight it's the same fucking thing and i'd say it's even by week rather than be day
for example if your fat loss diet is 2000 a day that's 14,000 a week, so if you fuck up one day and eat 5 grand then you gotta make sure to eat less other days to keep your weekly cal intake at 14,000 in this scenario
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bodybuilder A eats 6 times a day
bodybuilder B eats 1 time a day
bodybuilder C eats 1 time a week
both eat exactly the same amount and type of food on a one week basis
who makes better gains and why ???
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I think digestion efficiency varies with a lot of factors, like size of meal. Bber C will digest less of the food than bbers A and B, because his meal is so large.
Bbers A and B probably won't see much difference, especially short term. Long term I think A might have fewer issues, but who knows. The difference may only become significant at larger intervals (e.g. bber C, who would certainly be worse off).
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@halo: Bodybuilder A makes the best gains, provided the food he eats, supplies the building blocks for muscle tissue, namely protein and fats. Eating 6 times per day, or every four hours, provides the body with the materials it needs to build muscle tissue around the clock. You can go back to Vince Gironda with his every four hour muscle protein "feeds," so this isn't new. Eating the same amount once per week, or once per day, just won't be as efficient for building muscle tissue, as the building materials won't be there for muscle building, for the body to use. The body doesn't have a storage pouch for keeping protein around until you need it, except in muscle tissue, and that would be a zero sum game in terms of muscle building. At very best, you would only maintain, rather than build. And, although the body can store body fat, it can't access your body fat for anything other than energy.
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bodybuilder A eats 6 times a day
bodybuilder B eats 1 time a day
bodybuilder C eats 1 time a week
both eat exactly the same amount and type of food on a one week basis
who makes better gains and why ???
c is a ridiculous scenario and won't happen
a and b won't make a difference
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c is a ridiculous scenario and won't happen
a and b won't make a difference
It depends on the person. My metabolism is slow as fuck if I eat only once a day. I have done the 6 times a day, and I get the same results eating 3 times a day and tapering carbs. Plus eating 6 times a day is too hard when you are working.
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c is a ridiculous scenario and won't happen
a and b won't make a difference
Agreed
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c is a ridiculous scenario and won't happen
a and b won't make a difference
answer the fucking question anyway!!!
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bodybuilder A eats 6 times a day
bodybuilder B eats 1 time a day
bodybuilder C eats 1 time a week
both eat exactly the same amount and type of food on a one week basis
who makes better gains and why ???
A would be better than C....
But 6 times a day is not better than 3-4 times a day..
says Dr Dutch
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answer the fucking question anyway!!!
what's your daily caloric intake at nowadays chief?
and you actually count all this shit out?
i just eat less if my skinfolds get too high and more if i want to add size, but i won't let myself go over 9-10%, right now i'm sub 6 with veins on my abs
the last few days i've eaten at surplus but i don't really know how much over, once i get lean ie. sub 6% i can eat like shit for about a week or so, and then it starts to fuck me up
some eyetalian-american, his name is delmonte i believe, proposes cyclic eating, basically get down to sub 6 and then eat at surplus, for maybe 2 or 3 weeks til you hit 8-10% and then diet back down again to sub 6, i think it's a good plan but who the fuck wants to mess with all that shit, going up and down like that week after week
btw, i think that vegangains attacked this delmonte fella for being a fraud of some kind
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i dont really know, i eat a kilo of chicken breast a day and heaps of rice, not sure how muh rice, probably somewhere around 750 grams
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what's your daily caloric intake at nowadays chief?
and you actually count all this shit out?
i just eat less if my skinfolds get too high and more if i want to add size, but i won't let myself go over 9-10%, right now i'm sub 6 with veins on my abs
the last few days i've eaten at surplus but i don't really know how much over, once i get lean ie. sub 6% i can eat like shit for about a week or so, and then it starts to fuck me up
some eyetalian-american, his name is delmonte i believe, proposes cyclic eating, basically get down to sub 6 and then eat at surplus, for maybe 2 or 3 weeks til you hit 8-10% and then diet back down again to sub 6, i think it's a good plan but who the fuck wants to mess with all that shit, going up and down like that week after week
btw, i think that vegangains attacked this delmonte fella for being a fraud of some kind
Aren't you the dude that smashes a gram of orals a day and never got muscles? I'm just wondering?
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Aren't you the dude that smashes a gram of orals a day and never got muscles? I'm just wondering?
LOL!
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Aren't you the dude that smashes a gram of orals a day and never got muscles? I'm just wondering?
here's my latest pictor taken bout 3 weeks ago, 'cept i'm drier, harder and much more separated now
been on injects for bout year and a half now
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(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/12/18/1226032/991079-mcdonald-amp-039-s.jpg)
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here's my latest pictor taken bout 3 weeks ago, 'cept i'm drier, harder and much more separated now
been on injects for bout year and a half now
Wait you've been on gear for over a year :-X
You're certainly an oracle.
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(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/12/18/1226032/991079-mcdonald-amp-039-s.jpg)
that would cost the amount an entire week of chicken and rice costs
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My post was not to be taken seriously
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i've been eating a kilo of chicken breast a day for years with about half a kilo of rice
is there a cheaper way?
^^
Want my secret to staying in pretty good condition all year cheaply?
Eggs and Brown Rice
Tuna and Brown Rice
*** For work, take 2 protein shakes...
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@halo: Bodybuilder A makes the best gains, provided the food he eats, supplies the building blocks for muscle tissue, namely protein and fats. Eating 6 times per day, or every four hours, provides the body with the materials it needs to build muscle tissue around the clock. You can go back to Vince Gironda with his every four hour muscle protein "feeds," so this isn't new. Eating the same amount once per week, or once per day, just won't be as efficient for building muscle tissue, as the building materials won't be there for muscle building, for the body to use. The body doesn't have a storage pouch for keeping protein around until you need it, except in muscle tissue, and that would be a zero sum game in terms of muscle building. At very best, you would only maintain, rather than build. And, although the body can store body fat, it can't access your body fat for anything other than energy.
(http://66.media.tumblr.com/ae62e1d77cdd55d97ab5b4b8e81ae49e/tumblr_inline_o01mmcYJaW1tnuzcc_500.gif)
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Another useless, uninformative post from Be There.
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Another useless, uninformative post from Be There.
agreed
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^^^ funny thing is he looks a trillion times better than either of you ever have or will look.
Maybe you tits should take notes, and close your cock pleasers.
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here's my latest pictor taken bout 3 weeks ago, 'cept i'm drier, harder and much more separated now
been on injects for bout year and a half now
:P :-*
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^^^ funny thing is he looks a trillion times better than either of you ever have or will look.
Maybe you tits should take notes, and close your cock pleasers.
but dj looks better than you so ???
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Another useless, uninformative post from Be There.
your post was filled with so much bullshit it didnt even deserve a reasonable thought out response.
Just eat a normal diet and have 4 meals a day, eat a bit extra if you want to gain and a bit less if you want to lose, the training builds the muscle not the food.
I eat 150gms of protein most days and am around 220lbs at around 9%
if you eat all the protein in the world and dont exercise , fuck all will happen to you
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your post was filled with so much bullshit it didnt even deserve a reasonable thought out response.
Just eat a normal diet and have 4 meals a day, eat a bit extra if you want to gain and a bit less if you want to lose, the training builds the muscle not the food.
I eat 150gms of protein most days and am around 220lbs at around 9%
if you eat all the protein in the world and dont exercise , fuck all will happen to you
thread over
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your post was filled with so much bullshit it didnt even deserve a reasonable thought out response.
Just eat a normal diet and have 4 meals a day, eat a bit extra if you want to gain and a bit less if you want to lose, THE TRAINING BUILDS THE MUSCLE NOT THE FOOD.
I eat 150gms of protein most days and am around 220lbs at around 9%
if you eat all the protein in the world and dont exercise , fuck all will happen to you
I highlighted the bullshit in your post. Not eating the right foods, gets zero results.
P.S.: You didn't post a reasonable thought out response, because you aren't capable of any such intellectual effort.
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I highlighted the bullshit in your post. Not eating the right foods, gets zero results.
P.S.: You didn't post a reasonable thought out response, because you aren't capable of any such intellectual effort.
High reps for cuts.
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High reps for cuts.
And The Right Food! Otherwise You'll Waste A Lot Of Your Time.
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And The Right Food! Otherwise You'll Waste A Lot Of Your Time.
a calorie is a calorie is a calorie so says Arthur Jones, ta, and this here fella
fyi, i know him personally and he has a 700 pound bench to his credit and when dieting he eats roughly 80 grams of protien and maintains his size and power/strength
drugs and training are the key, diet is only cals, nothing more and nothing less
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a calorie is a calorie is a calorie so says Arthur Jones, ta, and this here fella
fyi, i know him personally and he has a 700 pound bench to his credit and when dieting he eats roughly 80 grams of protien and maintains his size and power/strength
drugs and training are the key, diet is only cals, nothing more and nothing less
Calorie is a calorie is nonsense. It is a misuse of science, to sell high carb foods, and supplements.
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Go to store, buy as much spinach, kale, ginger, ground beef, eggs, and sriracha (for condiment) you can afford, eat this 6 days a week. 7th day eat a ton of pasta and rice which are both cheap. Very inexpensive and effective
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Go to store, buy as much spinach, kale, ginger, ground beef, eggs, and sriracha (for condiment) you can afford, eat this 6 days a week. 7th day eat a ton of pasta and rice which are both cheap. Very inexpensive and effective
Or eat anything you like making sure you get some protein and eat around 300-400 cals over your maintenance if you want to gain size or 300-400 less if you want to lose weight.
Who the fuck wants to eat piles of fucking kale and ground beef?
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Or eat anything you like making sure you get some protein and eat around 300-400 cals over your maintenance if you want to gain size or 300-400 less if you want to lose weight.
Who the fuck wants to eat piles of fucking kale and ground beef?
Well the title said cheapest not most delicious
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Well the title said cheapest not most delicious
cheapest is probaly oatmeal and whey with peanut butter
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cheapest is probaly oatmeal and whey with peanut butter
Would love to eat some oatmeal with you.
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Or eat anything you like making sure you get some protein and eat around 300-400 cals over your maintenance if you want to gain size or 300-400 less if you want to lose weight.
Who the fuck wants to eat piles of fucking kale and ground beef?
how much protien does one need?
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how much protien does one need?
not as much as the supp companies say.
I eat around 150gms a day normally
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Isn't Erik C the guy who got ran off the board awhile back for terrible food advice? Back again....
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not as much as the supp companies say.
I eat around 150gms a day normally
Yep, the last year I'm on 200g maximum grams of protein a day. No need for more.
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Isn't Erik C the guy who got ran off the board awhile back for terrible food advice? Back again....
Hes busy sorting out the middle east conflict at the moment.
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but dj looks better than you so ???
Haha, yes I aspire to be an athlete with his supreme muscle volume and structure.
But anyways, I'm not the one regurgitating advice.... so how I look is irrelevant in this instance.
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Follow my advice and you win. The dopes that babble about a calorie is a calorie are the excuses for people, that don't want you to look better than they are.
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Tarnopolsky et al. (1988) found that only 0.37g/lb was required to maintain positive nitrogen balance in elite bodybuilders (over 5 years of experience, possible previous use of androgens) over a 10 day period. 0.45g/lb was sufficient to maintain lean body mass in bodybuilders over a 2 week period. The authors suggested that 0.55g/lb was sufficient for bodybuilders.
Hoffman et al. (2006) found no differences in body composition, strength or resting hormonal concentrations in strength athletes consuming either 0.77g/lb or >0.91g/lb over a 3 month period.
Lemon et al. (1992) found no differences in muscle mass or strength gains in novice bodybuilders consuming either 0.61g/lb or 1.19g/lb over a 4 week period. Based on nitrogen balance data, the authors recommended 0.75g/lb.
Walberg et al. (1988) found that 0.73g/lb was sufficient to maintain positive nitrogen balance in cutting weightlifters over a 7 day time period.
Tarnopolsky et al. (1992) observed no differences in whole body protein synthesis or indexes of lean body mass in strength athletes consuming either 0.64g/lb or 1.10g/lb over a 2 week period. Protein oxidation did increase in the high protein group, indicating a nutrient overload.
You can save money and not have to buy so much expensive proteins
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Advanced bodybuilders need less protein per body weight than beginners.
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Advanced bodybuilders need less protein per body weight than beginners.
Bull Shit!
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Bull Shit!
Another frequently heard objection is that people need more protein because they are more experienced than the studied populations. Well, Tarnopolsky et al. (1988) used elite bodybuilders and found that less protein was needed than in novice bodybuilders.
In fact, the finding that the more experienced you are, the less protein you need, has been replicated in several studies (Rennie & Tipton, 2000; Hartman, Moore & Phillips, 2006; Moore et al., 2007).
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Where are "Eric's" pictures to back his information?
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Another frequently heard objection is that people need more protein because they are more experienced than the studied populations. Well, Tarnopolsky et al. (1988) used elite bodybuilders and found that less protein was needed than in novice bodybuilders.
In fact, the finding that the more experienced you are, the less protein you need, has been replicated in several studies (Rennie & Tipton, 2000; Hartman, Moore & Phillips, 2006; Moore et al., 2007).
The problem is that those are one off studies, that haven't been duplicated, the basis of science is repeatable results.