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Title: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 07, 2016, 09:29:36 AM
Obama STILL destroying his haters....UE STILL at 4.8% which is considered FULL EMPLOYMENT......gas prices STILL LOW and Obama at 51% approval rating..... 8)

He's laughing his way out of office at all the haters who can't comprehend why he's such a great president.......also laughing at the Republican party which destroyed itself with its anti-Obama rhetoric and created Donald Trump.... 8)

Lets make Obama a Getbigger.... 8)
DID YOU SEE THE CHEERS HE GOT IN THE CANADIEN CONGRESS??????......AMAZING
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2016, 01:42:51 PM
Obama is a down low half a fag twink muslim isis sympathizer in transition to a woman and then divorce and bankruptcy court.   ;)
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 08, 2016, 07:56:10 AM
Obama is a down low half a fag twink muslim isis sympathizer in transition to a woman and then divorce and bankruptcy court.   ;)

sounds like you've been through all of that already
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 14, 2016, 05:04:15 AM
http://fortune.com/2016/07/14/this-is-why-mark-cuban-wants-you-to-buy-in-bulk

Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 22, 2016, 10:00:18 AM
http://fortune.com/2016/07/14/this-is-why-mark-cuban-wants-you-to-buy-in-bulk



UE still at 4.9%.....Trump is lying when he says economy is in bad shape
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 22, 2016, 10:13:29 AM
UE still at 4.9%.....Trump is lying when he says economy is in bad shape

Its a ficticious numberthat no one believes but o-twink and you
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 22, 2016, 10:16:49 AM
Its a ficticious numberthat no one believes but o-twink and you

funny how it was quite believable when Bush was president :o

STRANGE................. ................
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 22, 2016, 02:18:42 PM
Obama STILL destroying his haters....UE STILL at 4.8% which is considered FULL EMPLOYMENT......gas prices STILL LOW and Obama at 51% approval rating..... 8)

He's laughing his way out of office at all the haters who can't comprehend why he's such a great president.......also laughing at the Republican party which destroyed itself with its anti-Obama rhetoric and created Donald Trump.... 8)

Lets make Obama a Getbigger.... 8)
DID YOU SEE THE CHEERS HE GOT IN THE CANADIEN CONGRESS??????......AMAZING

You really aren't that bright are you? lol
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: headhuntersix on July 22, 2016, 03:29:27 PM
Obama created trump and allowed the US and the world to burn. You, he and all his fans should be put on trains.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 24, 2016, 11:56:07 AM
Obama created trump and allowed the US and the world to burn. You, he and all his fans should be put on trains.

Statements like this is why this nation is doomed...we just have too many stupid uninformed people walking around......EVERYONE knows Trump was created by the Republican Party due to their racism against Obama and not wanting to work with him which resulted in the congress doing absolutely nothing....which is why the public hates congress......

Also the birther movement and trying to repeal Obamacare 900 times without success......and the Tea Party being totally intransigent
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 24, 2016, 11:57:27 AM
You really aren't that bright are you? lol

you ABSOLUTELY MUST be looking in the mirror while typing this
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: tonymctones on July 24, 2016, 02:26:39 PM
Obama STILL destroying his haters....UE STILL at 4.8% which is considered FULL EMPLOYMENT......gas prices STILL LOW and Obama at 51% approval rating..... 8)

He's laughing his way out of office at all the haters who can't comprehend why he's such a great president.......also laughing at the Republican party which destroyed itself with its anti-Obama rhetoric and created Donald Trump.... 8)

Lets make Obama a Getbigger.... 8)
DID YOU SEE THE CHEERS HE GOT IN THE CANADIEN CONGRESS??????......AMAZING
Does Obama get credit for the hundreds of companies that have filed bankruptcy and thousands of workers laid off as a result of the low oil prices that cause the low gas prices?
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 24, 2016, 04:20:50 PM
Does Obama get credit for the hundreds of companies that have filed bankruptcy and thousands of workers laid off as a result of the low oil prices that cause the low gas prices?

That is a consequence of having cheap gas...which is what everyone wants, right????????....the benefits of cheap gas outweigh the negatives......unfortuna tely oil workers losing their jobs is s negative, but I don't think you or anyone else are thinking about them when you are filling up your car with $2 gas ;)
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: tonymctones on July 26, 2016, 09:34:17 AM
That is a consequence of having cheap gas...which is what everyone wants, right????????....the benefits of cheap gas outweigh the negatives......unfortuna tely oil workers losing their jobs is s negative, but I don't think you or anyone else are thinking about them when you are filling up your car with $2 gas ;)
No cheap gas is a consequence of low oil prices not the other way around. I live in Houston, I can assure you plenty of people in this country are thinking about those laid off workers
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 26, 2016, 09:41:06 AM
No cheap gas is a consequence of low oil prices not the other way around. I live in Houston, I can assure you plenty of people in this country are thinking about those laid off workers

I respect your opinion but I honestly don';t think so....all people complain about is not being able to fill up their cars with cheap gas...which was a major hit that Obama took in his first few years...today, people seem really happy with gas prices and I don't think they make the connection that Americans actually lose jobs when gas is really cheap.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2016, 09:46:39 AM
Andre - if Obama is kicking my ass w the great economy - why are all the speakewrs at the DNC Convention complaining about min wage, wealth inequality etc? 
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: tonymctones on July 26, 2016, 09:52:06 AM
I respect your opinion but I honestly don';t think so....all people complain about is not being able to fill up their cars with cheap gas...which was a major hit that Obama took in his first few years...today, people seem really happy with gas prices and I don't think they make the connection that Americans actually lose jobs when gas is really cheap.
over 100,000 jobs lost in the oil and gas sector. Those arent minimum wage jobs either but good middle to upper middle class jobs with more to come.

I'm sure if you don't know anyone in the industry you probably don't think about it but a lot of people know those 100,000 + people

Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 26, 2016, 09:52:41 AM
Andre - if Obama is kicking my ass w the great economy - why are all the speakewrs at the DNC Convention complaining about min wage, wealth inequality etc? 

because the Republicans have destroyed the unions and back corporate America which doesn't pay people what they are worth....plus lay off a bunch of people and make one person do three jobs.....

We have to stop just cvaring about profits and start paying men enough to take care of their families.......remember when our fathers made enough so that our mothers didn't have to work?
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2016, 10:04:02 AM
because the Republicans have destroyed the unions and back corporate America which doesn't pay people what they are worth....plus lay off a bunch of people and make one person do three jobs.....

We have to stop just cvaring about profits and start paying men enough to take care of their families.......remember when our fathers made enough so that our mothers didn't have to work?

so why hasnt o-done anything about it?
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 26, 2016, 10:06:24 AM
so why hasnt o-done anything about it?

if he did, he would be accused of being a facist...I remember back when people got paid for 8 hours....you got paid for your lunch hour as wll.nowadays you get paid for 35 hours a week instead of 40....if they changed that, that in itself would make a big difference in people's salaries and take home pay
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: tonymctones on July 26, 2016, 10:07:06 AM
because the Republicans have destroyed the unions and back corporate America which doesn't pay people what they are worth....plus lay off a bunch of people and make one person do three jobs.....

We have to stop just cvaring about profits and start paying men enough to take care of their families.......remember when our fathers made enough so that our mothers didn't have to work?

Low skilled workers are easily replaced unfortunately and when low skilled workers get paid too much they get replaced by technology that's cheaper than them. The idea for individuals is to be a skilled worker.

You either need to make skilled workers or rebalance the supply and demand in the labor markets.

That would mean restricting immigration to a certain extent but we can't do that bc apparently it's racist
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 26, 2016, 10:13:42 AM

Low skilled workers are easily replaced unfortunately and when low skilled workers get paid too much they get replaced by technology that's cheaper than them. The idea for individuals is to be a skilled worker.

You either need to make skilled workers or rebalance the supply and demand in the labor markets.

That would mean restricting immigration to a certain extent but we can't do that bc apparently it's racist


Good point about technology...I forgot to mention that.....the good old days when everyone in america was paid what they are worth is over......as you mentioned, technology and mechanization are doing away with alot of jobs...also..GLOBALIZATI ON where people in China and Indonesia are making things for 2 bucks an hour......

you think things are bad now, just wait until they perfect self-driving cars........there will be massive unemployment because the driving industry employs millions who don't even have a high school diploma.....no more chaffeurs, taxi drivers, truck drivers, etc......WOW
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: TuHolmes on July 26, 2016, 01:14:12 PM

Low skilled workers are easily replaced unfortunately and when low skilled workers get paid too much they get replaced by technology that's cheaper than them. The idea for individuals is to be a skilled worker.

You either need to make skilled workers or rebalance the supply and demand in the labor markets.

That would mean restricting immigration to a certain extent but we can't do that bc apparently it's racist


I don't think that's true. Curbing immigration is fine. We just have to curb ALL immigration. Not just Mexicans and Muslims, but also Asians, Canadians, Europeans and so on.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2016, 01:35:54 PM
I don't think that's true. Curbing immigration is fine. We just have to curb ALL immigration. Not just Mexicans and Muslims, but also Asians, Canadians, Europeans and so on.

Why?  Shouldnt we be able to determine who we want here and who we dont?



We have enough unskilled labor.   We need more productive people not going on welfare. 
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: tonymctones on July 26, 2016, 01:42:44 PM
I don't think that's true. Curbing immigration is fine. We just have to curb ALL immigration. Not just Mexicans and Muslims, but also Asians, Canadians, Europeans and so on.
I agree, I didn't say limiting illegal immigration but limiting immigration. The fact is though that illegal immigrants at least first generation aren't coming here for high income jobs. They are coming here for low and middle income jobs. Those same jobs that people in the low to lower middle class need and want.

Say what you want but more labor means lower pay And being for restricting immigration earns you a racist tag.

Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 26, 2016, 01:49:41 PM
I agree, I didn't say limiting illegal immigration but limiting immigration. The fact is though that illegal immigrants at least first generation aren't coming here for high income jobs. They are coming here for low and middle income jobs. Those same jobs that people in the low to lower middle class need and want.

Say what you want but more labor means lower pay And being for restricting immigration earns you a racist tag.



Anything that smacks of common sense gets you branded racist now. 
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: James on July 26, 2016, 02:07:43 PM
 libtards are useless idiots for the elite
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: JackScribber on July 26, 2016, 04:52:52 PM
You really aren't that bright are you? lol

Hey Coach, 'you just don't get it do you' ;)

Nice to see you've final made a small variation on your usual responses when you're (as usual) stumped for something intelligent to say
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: JackScribber on July 26, 2016, 04:57:25 PM
Statements like this is why this nation is doomed...we just have too many stupid uninformed people walking around......EVERYONE knows Trump was created by the Republican Party due to their racism against Obama and not wanting to work with him which resulted in the congress doing absolutely nothing....which is why the public hates congress......

Also the birther movement and trying to repeal Obamacare 900 times without success......and the Tea Party being totally intransigent

Haha

Yet it goes 9 miles over your head why Blacks are doomed. Everything to you is just racism or racist. Just like the short little moron dwarf Coach reach for his 2-3 usual responses, you have only one. 'It must be racism'

Change the fucking tune already. Nobody gives a shit about Obama's skin colour apart from racist Blacks. You're obsessed with it. Honestly, change the tune.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: 240 is Back on July 26, 2016, 05:07:24 PM
Obama created trump and allowed the US and the world to burn. You, he and all his fans should be put on trains.

66 million americans voted for Obama in 2012.











We're gonna need more trains.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: iwantmass on July 26, 2016, 06:20:47 PM
Haha

Yet it goes 9 miles over your head why Blacks are doomed. Everything to you is just racism or racist. Just like the short little moron dwarf Coach reach for his 2-3 usual responses, you have only one. 'It must be racism'

Change the fucking tune already. Nobody gives a shit about Obama's skin colour apart from racist Blacks. You're obsessed with it. Honestly, change the tune.

You can't say that to him. In his words, he never cries racism.  You have to forgive andre.  He had an absentee father figure, pushing him to cling to other black men in his neighborhood. This tendency to admire and be accepted by these other black men are largely responsible for him being the down low brother he is today.  Yet, he still blames the white man
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 26, 2016, 08:27:04 PM
Haha

Yet it goes 9 miles over your head why Blacks are doomed. Everything to you is just racism or racist. Just like the short little moron dwarf Coach reach for his 2-3 usual responses, you have only one. 'It must be racism'

Change the fucking tune already. Nobody gives a shit about Obama's skin colour apart from racist Blacks. You're obsessed with it. Honestly, change the tune.

Call it what want you want gimmick. It always ends up I'm right in the end. lol
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: TuHolmes on July 26, 2016, 08:46:13 PM
I agree, I didn't say limiting illegal immigration but limiting immigration. The fact is though that illegal immigrants at least first generation aren't coming here for high income jobs. They are coming here for low and middle income jobs. Those same jobs that people in the low to lower middle class need and want.

Say what you want but more labor means lower pay And being for restricting immigration earns you a racist tag.



Do you think the lower and middle class need those jobs though? I mean, some yes I assume. Construction and the like, but the lettuce pickers and orange sellers... Those are not jobs most "Natives" will accept.

At least it seems so in my experience. Maybe it's just the area I'm in now though of course.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: JackScribber on July 26, 2016, 09:07:49 PM
Call it what want you want gimmick. It always ends up I'm right in the end. lol

You're a short little fat Mexican. You just don't get that do you ;)
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 26, 2016, 09:14:23 PM
You're a short little fat Mexican. You just don't get that do you ;)

Got it, Junior. You're dismissed.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: tonymctones on July 26, 2016, 09:37:04 PM
Do you think the lower and middle class need those jobs though? I mean, some yes I assume. Construction and the like, but the lettuce pickers and orange sellers... Those are not jobs most "Natives" will accept.

At least it seems so in my experience. Maybe it's just the area I'm in now though of course.
Yea they would if the wage that was paid was higher, and it would be if labor wasn't so abundant.

Globalization and tech has not been good to the middle class, one way to address the over supply of labor is to restrict immigration.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: TuHolmes on July 26, 2016, 09:40:27 PM
Yea they would if the wage that was paid was higher, and it would be if labor wasn't so abundant.

Globalization and tech has not been good to the middle class, one way to address the over supply of labor is to restrict immigration.

Possibly, but then the middle class that we do have couldn't afford some of the product.

They wouldn't be able to afford their own lettuce or what have you.

That isn't the type of job that would then let you buy your own product, such as a car or what have you. (Like people who worked in Detroit for a long time)
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 27, 2016, 06:43:32 AM
Haha

Yet it goes 9 miles over your head why Blacks are doomed. Everything to you is just racism or racist. Just like the short little moron dwarf Coach reach for his 2-3 usual responses, you have only one. 'It must be racism'

Change the fucking tune already. Nobody gives a shit about Obama's skin colour apart from racist Blacks. You're obsessed with it. Honestly, change the tune.

and exactly where did you see in my post any talk of racism???????.....dude...stick to the topic instead of going off on rants....if you want to talk about racism, then say so..don't attribute it to me when there is no post here where I bring it up
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: iwantmass on July 27, 2016, 06:45:41 AM
and exactly where did you see in my post any talk of racism???????.....dude...stick to the topic instead of going off on rants....if you want to talk about racism, then say so..don't attribute it to me when there is no post here where I bring it up

You literally cite racism if your post that he quoted
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 27, 2016, 06:53:06 AM
Yea they would if the wage that was paid was higher, and it would be if labor wasn't so abundant.

Globalization and tech has not been good to the middle class, one way to address the over supply of labor is to restrict immigration.

with globalization we have so many American companies going overseas to manuafacture high priced, over-priced junk by desperate natives at $2 an hour......does an iphone really need to cost $800???????....when it probably costs Apple maybe $25 per phone with shipping, materials, research and development?..maybe it would cost $35 per phone to manufacture in the U.S. and you could still sell it for $500 and make a tidy profit....

The fact is, Globalization is destroying a lot of industries and is hurting our middle class...I'm not anti-Globalization...I'm just saying thats the way it is from now on....no president can stop it unless we go back to protectionism
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 27, 2016, 06:56:13 AM
You literally cite racism if your post that he quoted

so you truly don't believe that there was no racism whatsoever against Obama by the Republicans and Tea Party???
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: iwantmass on July 27, 2016, 07:02:06 AM
so you truly don't believe that there was no racism whatsoever against Obama by the Republicans and Tea Party???

I'm absolutely certain Obama has experienced racism throughout his tenure. I'm also sure he put his nose in affairs involving blacks, before he knew the facts.  His Harvard professor case particularly comes to mind as a few more instances there is no point referencing.  Do I think the racism he has experienced is the reason he hasn't reached agreement across the aisle, no I don't.  

And I also don't agree with the liberal narrative that trump is racist, as much as I dislike him. 
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 27, 2016, 07:18:18 AM
I'm absolutely certain Obama has experienced racism throughout his tenure. I'm also sure he put his nose in affairs involving blacks, before he knew the facts.  His Harvard professor case particularly comes to mind as a few more instances there is no point referencing.  Do I think the racism he has experienced is the reason he hasn't reached agreement across the aisle, no I don't.  

And I also don't agree with the liberal narrative that trump is racist, as much as I dislike him. 

ok, then if you agree that Obama has experienced racism during his tenure (which I commend you on), then you can't keep spouting the narrative that I'm crying wolf....it has definitely been a factor...as for Trump, I do agree that he is definitely not a racist....I wish people would stop saying that...I've followed his career here in NY and I have never seen any indications of that.....however he is an idiot in that he doesn't think things through and doesn't listen to advice....
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: iwantmass on July 27, 2016, 07:26:50 AM
ok, then if you agree that Obama has experienced racism during his tenure (which I commend you on), then you can't keep spouting the narrative that I'm crying wolf....it has definitely been a factor...as for Trump, I do agree that he is definitely not a racist....I wish people would stop saying that...I've followed his career here in NY and I have never seen any indications of that.....however he is an idiot in that he doesn't think things through and doesn't listen to advice....

Of course I agree he's experienced racism.  I don't think the racism was so rampant, at the highest level in the Republican party, that is was the driving force/played a significant role in disagreeing with his policy.  I think that was more likely to Republicans being disagreeable assholes, as politicians are known to do
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2016, 07:29:03 AM
Of course I agree he's experienced racism.  I don't think the racism was so rampant, at the highest level in the Republican party, that is was the driving force/played a significant role in disagreeing with his policy.  I think that was more likely to Republicans being disagreeable assholes, as politicians are known to do

When in doubt - blame racism for obama's failures,.   :D
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: tonymctones on July 27, 2016, 07:51:57 AM
Possibly, but then the middle class that we do have couldn't afford some of the product.

They wouldn't be able to afford their own lettuce or what have you.

That isn't the type of job that would then let you buy your own product, such as a car or what have you. (Like people who worked in Detroit for a long time)

Agreed the market will find equilibrium at some point though. It maybe that there is enough room in the profit margin to absorb that extra pay or It maybe that the labor for those jobs just goes away and is replaced by machines but one thing is for sure the more labor you have the cheaper it is.

The ceiling is where it's more economical to replace humans with machines.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 08:23:07 AM
Good posts in this thread, tonymctones.

Tu, you are buying media messages like a true champ.  I'm sure the scammers of this world love you for it, for whatever that's worth.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: TuHolmes on July 27, 2016, 09:49:44 AM
Good posts in this thread, tonymctones.

Tu, you are buying media messages like a true champ.  I'm sure the scammers of this world love you for it, for whatever that's worth.

I'm just giving my opinion based on what I see on a day to day basis. This has nothing to do with media messages. Whatever you believe them to be.

Feel free to show me where I'm incorrect.

Agreed the market will find equilibrium at some point though. It maybe that there is enough room in the profit margin to absorb that extra pay or It maybe that the labor for those jobs just goes away and is replaced by machines but one thing is for sure the more labor you have the cheaper it is.

The ceiling is where it's more economical to replace humans with machines.
In a true capitalist society it would, unfortunately, that's not "exactly" what we have.

I do agree that machines replacing humans will be a much bigger problem in regards to workforce in the future. That said, it will just eliminate the lowest paying jobs again.

People will be needed to repair robots and machines. Just like now, but on a much larger scale.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 27, 2016, 10:02:24 AM
Agreed the market will find equilibrium at some point though. It maybe that there is enough room in the profit margin to absorb that extra pay or It maybe that the labor for those jobs just goes away and is replaced by machines but one thing is for sure the more labor you have the cheaper it is.

The ceiling is where it's more economical to replace humans with machines.

I think usually it will always be more economical to replace workers with machines....Machines don't get tired, don't call in sick, don't argue with the boss, adn have higher productivity levels.....its starting to happen in fast food now with the new $15 an hour wage...like I said, just wait until our trucks, taxis and limos are all being driven by robots....we will have mass unemployment like you've never seen
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Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 10:19:30 AM
I'm just giving my opinion based on what I see on a day to day basis. This has nothing to do with media messages. Whatever you believe them to be.

Feel free to show me where I'm incorrect.
In a true capitalist society it would, unfortunately, that's not "exactly" what we have.

I do agree that machines replacing humans will be a much bigger problem in regards to workforce in the future. That said, it will just eliminate the lowest paying jobs again.

People will be needed to repair robots and machines. Just like now, but on a much larger scale.

For one thing, you just asked whether lower and middle class people need certain jobs.

Do you expect them to pimp out their wives, instead?
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: TuHolmes on July 27, 2016, 10:24:58 AM
For one thing, you just asked whether lower and middle class people need certain jobs.

Do you expect them to pimp out their wives, instead?

No, I expect people to strive to do better.

In the previous scenario, where robots were "taking over" low level jobs. They will need people to repair them and program them. Work on them... Those jobs would still have a people requirement.

That's what I'm talking about in that scenario.

Or do you mean currently where people are picking lettuce and what not?

My point is that those people are making less than minimum wage and as such, most citizens in the US would refuse a job like that, where illegals don't of course.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 10:29:37 AM
No, I expect people to strive to do better.

So why encourage an environment which makes that all the more unachievable?

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In the previous scenario, where robots were "taking over" low level jobs. They will need people to repair them and program them. Work on them... Those jobs would still have a people requirement.

That's what I'm talking about in that scenario.

Or do you mean currently where people are picking lettuce and what not?

My point is that those people are making less than minimum wage and as such, most citizens in the US would refuse a job like that, where illegals don't of course.

We can make people work very hard when they're faced with a threat of being beaten, too.  Or if they want to eat.  Or both!

So how far down do we go?
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: TuHolmes on July 27, 2016, 10:33:08 AM
So why encourage an environment which makes that all the more unachievable?

We can make people work very hard when they're faced with a threat of being beaten, too.  Or if they want to eat.  Or both!

So how far down do we go?


I mean if you get rid of things like welfare, I suppose that would start a huge shift, but do you think that's a good idea?

What about my scenario creates an environment that makes betterment "unachievable"?
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 10:42:12 AM
I mean if you get rid of things like welfare, I suppose that would start a huge shift, but do you think that's a good idea?

What about my scenario creates an environment that makes betterment "unachievable"?

Every illegal worker makes it further from an achievable state, because there's only so much need for workers.  Tonymctones spelled it out pretty well imo.  And of course things will only continue to tighten as we go into the future. 

It is a really tough spot we're in, and the media messages are so off-the-chart crazy on this issue, I would just love to see people be made to answer and be held accountable for that.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: JackScribber on July 27, 2016, 03:20:11 PM
and exactly where did you see in my post any talk of racism???????.....dude...stick to the topic instead of going off on rants....if you want to talk about racism, then say so..don't attribute it to me when there is no post here where I bring it up

In the fucking post I quoted!

It's become such a normal thing for you you don't even notice it anymore. All you do is cry racism when anyone dare criticize Obama for anything.

Get over it crybaby. Nobody gives a flying fuck about being called a racist on here. Get new material already.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: JackScribber on July 27, 2016, 03:25:53 PM
I think usually it will always be more economical to replace workers with machines....Machines don't get tired, don't call in sick, don't argue with the boss, adn have higher productivity levels.....its starting to happen in fast food now with the new $15 an hour wage...like I said, just wait until our trucks, taxis and limos are all being driven by robots....we will have mass unemployment like you've never seen

Who's going to build all these machines? Design the machines, program them, man them, maintain them, install them, upgrade them?

Jobs won't ever disappear, markets will change. People that don't want to change or better themselves will get left behind. There's literally hundreds of 1000s of jobs out there in America TODAY. Vacancies that can't be filled because the skills aren't there.

If you're too fucking stupid or lazy to continuously better yourself, yes, chances are unemployment will rise. Not for the lack of opportunity though.

But I suppose lefty liberal shitheads don't want to see it that way as that place the onus back on them to get off their asses and do something for themselves.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: TuHolmes on July 27, 2016, 03:43:28 PM
Who's going to build all these machines? Design the machines, program them, man them, maintain them, install them, upgrade them?

Jobs won't ever disappear, markets will change. People that don't want to change or better themselves will get left behind. There's literally hundreds of 1000s of jobs out there in America TODAY. Vacancies that can't be filled because the skills aren't there.

If you're too fucking stupid or lazy to continuously better yourself, yes, chances are unemployment will rise. Not for the lack of opportunity though.


This is exactly what I was saying.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 04:15:24 PM
There's literally hundreds of 1000s of jobs out there in America TODAY. Vacancies that can't be filled because the skills aren't there.

Really?  Wow!  Must have come as quite a shock to the companies that you say are now losing money because they can't fill their potential.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: TuHolmes on July 27, 2016, 04:18:28 PM
Pretty well known that there are lots of positions currently that people are having trouble finding qualified people for.

http://www.jobsinme.com/misc/page.aspx?pagenum=ten-jobs-employers-cant-fill

Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 04:23:20 PM
Pretty well known that there are lots of positions currently that people are having trouble finding qualified people for.

http://www.jobsinme.com/misc/page.aspx?pagenum=ten-jobs-employers-cant-fill



Then how is it they're managing to "find" them in India, I wonder?
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 04:24:15 PM
This wouldn't be a convenient excuse to use Indian workers, would it?

 ???
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: TuHolmes on July 27, 2016, 04:27:25 PM
This wouldn't be a convenient excuse to use Indian workers, would it?

 ???

They aren't finding a lot of Nurses and Truck drivers and HVAC guys from India.

So no, pretty sure not.

Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 04:32:22 PM
They aren't finding a lot of Nurses and Truck drivers and HVAC guys from India.

So no, pretty sure not.



Isn't the tech industry known for hiring Indians because they "can't find" qualified Americans?
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: TuHolmes on July 27, 2016, 04:34:54 PM
Isn't the tech industry known for hiring Indians because they "can't find" qualified Americans?

I don't know about that. I've seen people say they are off-shoring to do some things because of cost. "can't find"? I don't know.

I'm in the tech field and so far, I've not had an issue.

I guess it depends on what level of expertise the business is looking for at the time.
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Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 04:35:25 PM
Lmao..you made me curious to find out more, Tu.  So I looked up Indian truck drivers in America and it isn't quite what you'd think, apparently.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 04:36:36 PM
I don't know about that. I've seen people say they are off-shoring to do some things because of cost. "can't find"? I don't know.

I'm in the tech field and so far, I've not had an issue.

I guess it depends on what level of expertise the business is looking for at the time.


Indians are all over tech, as a matter of fact.
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Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 04:38:34 PM
An American company is recruiting long-haul truck drivers from India with the goal of placing them with U.S. trucking firms.

The Teamsters Union strongly opposes the plan by Gagan Global LLC of Garnerville, N.Y.

Teamsters Union spokesman Galen Munroe told WND the plan “is yet another example of corporations exploiting a visa program to replace highly trained, hard-working Americans with cheap labor from overseas.”

Gagan Global has contracted with the Indian state government of Andra Pradesh and its Overseas Manpower Consultancy to run a training school in the Asian country.

Gagan Global CEO Philip Gagan told WND a first batch of 200 Indian truck drivers has been recruited to attend the school in preparation for work in the U.S.

“We are recruiting Indian truck drivers,” Gagan confirmed to WND. “We are very demanding on our requirements to get into the school. The requirements are that you have to have five years of heavy driving experience on tractor-trailer trucks, you have to be HIV-negative, have a clean police record, verifiable references that the government in India can verify.”
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 04:39:58 PM
When will we stop pretending everything is OK in this nation?
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 04:45:47 PM
Yes, Indian truck drivers will be trucking down the road freely into Mexico and back and we'll all have a swell time.  ::)

Just because 'you' may sense everything's fine with yourself, and that it MUST mean the country is in primo shape, doesn't mean you aren't delusional and full of shit.  (not necessarily you, Tu, but anyone who can't see what's happening.)
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: TuHolmes on July 27, 2016, 04:46:58 PM
Yes, Indian truck drivers will be trucking down the road freely into Mexico and back and we'll all have a swell time.  ::)

Just because 'you' may sense everything's fine with yourself, and that it MUST mean the country is in primo shape, doesn't mean you aren't delusional and full of shit.  (not necessarily you, Tu, but anyone who can't see what's happening.)

The question to ask is if they are using them because they are cheap, or because they aren't getting enough qualified candidates.

I do know I hear a lot of commercials on the radio looking for truck drivers all of the time.

Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: JackScribber on July 27, 2016, 04:51:32 PM
An American company is recruiting long-haul truck drivers from India with the goal of placing them with U.S. trucking firms.

The Teamsters Union strongly opposes the plan by Gagan Global LLC of Garnerville, N.Y.

Teamsters Union spokesman Galen Munroe told WND the plan “is yet another example of corporations exploiting a visa program to replace highly trained, hard-working Americans with cheap labor from overseas.”

Gagan Global has contracted with the Indian state government of Andra Pradesh and its Overseas Manpower Consultancy to run a training school in the Asian country.

Gagan Global CEO Philip Gagan told WND a first batch of 200 Indian truck drivers has been recruited to attend the school in preparation for work in the U.S.

“We are recruiting Indian truck drivers,” Gagan confirmed to WND. “We are very demanding on our requirements to get into the school. The requirements are that you have to have five years of heavy driving experience on tractor-trailer trucks, you have to be HIV-negative, have a clean police record, verifiable references that the government in India can verify.”

Highly qualified? LOL.

But anyway, your post only serve to prove my point. Their market has now changed. Time to do something new, upskill and better yourself. I have a business degree (Accounting and Finance). I've been a plumber's mate, software developer, railway worker, insurance claims/loss adjuster, done carpentery formwork and now I'm back in insurance heading up a small team in a major global company. I'm also doing a part time diploma in quantity surveying. Don't matter what happens in the world or markets, I'll carve out a place for myself.

Those truck drivers' reality have changed. Are they going to spend the rest of their lives complaining about it or get back out there and do something new?

So far I'm only seeing excuses.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 04:53:22 PM
The question to ask is if they are using them because they are cheap, or because they aren't getting enough qualified candidates.

I do know I hear a lot of commercials on the radio looking for truck drivers all of the time.



Um, yeah, the two things may be very closely connected.  I have at least a slight suspicion, lol.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: TuHolmes on July 27, 2016, 04:54:11 PM
Um, yeah, the two things may be very closely connected.  I have at least a slight suspicion, lol.

It is certainly plausible.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: JackScribber on July 27, 2016, 04:54:23 PM
Yes, Indian truck drivers will be trucking down the road freely into Mexico and back and we'll all have a swell time.  ::)

Just because 'you' may sense everything's fine with yourself, and that it MUST mean the country is in primo shape, doesn't mean you aren't delusional and full of shit.  (not necessarily you, Tu, but anyone who can't see what's happening.)

What I'm seeing happening is LIFE. And I see people not adapting to the change. Not grand words. Really simple if you think about it.

I suppose some people wish things can stay exactly the same so they don't have to go to the effort to change/better themselves.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 04:55:06 PM
Highly qualified? LOL.

But anyway, your post only serve to prove my point. Their market has now changed. Time to do something new, upskill and better yourself. I have a business degree (Accounting and Finance). I've been a plumber's mate, software developer, railway worker, insurance claims/loss adjuster, done carpentery formwork and now I'm back in insurance heading up a small team in a major global company. I'm also doing a part time diploma in quantity surveying. Don't matter what happens in the world or markets, I'll carve out a place for myself.

Those truck drivers' reality have changed. Are they going to spend the rest of their lives complaining about it or get back out there and do something new?

So far I'm only seeing excuses.

Why should they be forced to do that, exactly?
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 04:56:28 PM
What I'm seeing happening is LIFE. And I see people not adapting to the change. Not grand words. Really simple if you think about it.

I suppose some people wish things can stay exactly the same so they don't have to go to the effort to change/better themselves.

Do you view Globalism as progress?
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: JackScribber on July 27, 2016, 04:58:55 PM
Do you view Globalism as progress?

Change. It scares you right?
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 05:01:36 PM
Change. It scares you right?

Change is automatically good?  How about if the 'change' is your house burning down?
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 05:05:58 PM
Really love all the Gung-Ho guys picturing themselves as "winners" in a global arena, while not giving a piss less about anyone else.

Talk about ripe for Karma.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: JackScribber on July 27, 2016, 05:06:37 PM
Let's just say. There's some people in this thread that sees the world for how they wish it was, instead of adapting to how it is. And then blaming everything else when it turns out it was all a big illusion  :-\

Don't like it, get into politics and change it. Or shut up and get busy living.

Either way, the world does not give the tiniest of fucks about you and your grand visions for it. Markets will change, good times will roll, bad times will roll. You either adapt to it or not.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: JackScribber on July 27, 2016, 05:08:45 PM
Change is automatically good?  How about if the 'change' is your house burning down?

Then my insurance will pay out an accomodation allowance, rebuild my house and everything is new again.

Enough with your dumbass questions already liberal. Surefire way to show you have nothing left to say.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: Las Vegas on July 27, 2016, 05:09:50 PM
Let's just say. There's some people in this thread that sees the world for how they wish it was, instead of adapting to how it is. And then blaming everything else when it turns out it was all a big illusion  :-\

Don't like it, get into politics and change it. Or shut up and get busy living.

Either way, the world does not give the tiniest of fucks about you and your grand visions for it. Markets will change, good times will roll, bad times will roll. You either adapt to it or not.

Or you could always bend over and smile.
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 28, 2016, 08:21:50 AM
Who's going to build all these machines? Design the machines, program them, man them, maintain them, install them, upgrade them?

Jobs won't ever disappear, markets will change. People that don't want to change or better themselves will get left behind. There's literally hundreds of 1000s of jobs out there in America TODAY. Vacancies that can't be filled because the skills aren't there.

If you're too fucking stupid or lazy to continuously better yourself, yes, chances are unemployment will rise. Not for the lack of opportunity though.

But I suppose lefty liberal shitheads don't want to see it that way as that place the onus back on them to get off their asses and do something for themselves.

not everyone in America has an entrepreneurial mind and it doesn't mean that you are stupid or lazy if you fail to beter yourself....some are just a victim of circumstance....some people do get left behind in life......if that wasn't the case we'd ALL be millionaires....also this is a land of choice....not everone wants to build machines, program them, and maintain them......people want to work in areas of interest for them.....nothing wrong with that...you are right when you say some vacancies can't be filled because the skills aren't there...but you can't force skills on people....only people who truly interested in machines and computeres will train to work in those fields
Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 29, 2016, 10:11:32 AM
Obama's convention speech was absolutely amazing...i miss him already 8) 8)
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Post by: Soul Crusher on July 29, 2016, 10:43:03 AM
Obama's convention speech was absolutely amazing...i miss him already 8) 8)

you are such a queen


The economy grew at 1.2% - do you realize hoe bad that it is?   And you miss him? 

Title: Re: OBAMAS ASS-KICKING OF SOUL CRUSHER CONTINUES..approval rating at 51% and 4.8% UE
Post by: andreisdaman on July 29, 2016, 11:24:00 AM
you are such a queen


The economy grew at 1.2% - do you realize hoe bad that it is?   And you miss him? 



The american economy is so HUGE that 1.2% for us is big compared to another country like Russia or India...bot to mention those days of 3-4% growth are over due to Globalization, etc