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Will Kev stick with his self confessed minimalist 90's dosage, or will the gloves come off as he picks up the battle thong one last time?
The following is apparently a baseline dose for a competitive "Pro"
2/3g Test
600 Trenbalone
500 Deca
500 Equipoise
50/100 mg Anadrol
Painkillers, aromatase inhibitors and various auxiliaries, e.g: Glucosamine :D
4 IU insulin pre meal coupled with 8/12 IU of legit kegs GH/IGF 1, before bedtime prayers?
Six weeks out: Switch to Primo instead of Deca whilst introducing 100mg of Winstrol EOD?
Back stage: localized trap, delt, lat, pec, tricep, and calve Formebolone (esiclene) injections from his secret 90's stash.
Of course this is nothing but hearsay and conjecture but that's the GetBig standard, so feel free to enlighten.
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The following is apparently a baseline dose for a competitive "Pro"
600 Trenbalone
500 Deca
500 Equipoise
50/100 mg Anadrol
4 IU insulin pre meal coupled with 8/12 IU of legit kegs GH/IGF 1, before bedtime prayers?
Six weeks out: Switch to Primo instead of Deca whilst introducing 100mg of Winstrol EOD?
not sure if srs
anything i bolded is amateur levels
at least quadruple anything there and were getting closer to olympia dosages
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I bet this was achieved with about a gram tops
(http://i60.tinypic.com/k3u4xl.jpg)
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not sure if srs
anything i bolded is amateur levels
at least quadruple anything there and were getting closer to olympia dosages
Holy shit, that qualifies as a "boatload".
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He`s so genetically gifted, he`s probably just running Test!! :D
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I believe Kevin is running 12.5 mg per day of Ostarine, with 5 capsules per day of HCGenerate for testosterone support. Ostarine is bumped to 25 mg in the final 4 weeks to allow for continued accelerated growth into the show. This is where the magic really happens.
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I believe Kevin is running 12.5 mg per day of Ostarine, with 5 capsules per day of HCGenerate for testosterone support. Ostarine is bumped to 25 mg in the final 4 weeks to allow for continued accelerated growth into the show. This is where the magic really happens.
Lmfao, good one. ;D
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I bet this was achieved with about a gram tops
(http://i60.tinypic.com/k3u4xl.jpg)
Lets be real, these guys had unlimited access to pharma gear at a time when there where no real studies on the use, side effects and death risks in any prevelant media.
Mentzers been outed for using multiple grams of deca alone and you've got some crazy old timers mentioning that to get ready for a show they'd just go from 3 grams to 10 based on mg to kg ratios devised from testing on beagles.
Lol
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Lets be real, these guys had unlimited access to pharma gear at a time when there where no real studies on the use, side effects and death risks in any prevelant media.
Mentzers been outed for using multiple grams of deca alone and you've got some crazy old timers mentioning that to get ready for a show they'd just go from 3 grams to 10 based on mg to kg ratios devised from testing on beagles.
Lol
Im basing it on his personality and mental approach to the sport.
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All Jack Daniels, army fatigues and plastic figurines.
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Lol...you think 600mg of Tren Ace a week is pro usage? Try more like 200mg a day if not more, probably closer to 300mg a day a few weeks out from contest time.
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I bet this was achieved with about a gram tops
(http://i60.tinypic.com/k3u4xl.jpg)
He admits to being one of the earliest users of growth hormone.
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At about this time I would guess Anadrol 200mg and climbing. Winstrol 100mg and climbing. Humatrope at at least 12iu. Insulin days here and there. Tren, EQ, Test prop, NPP. Soon lots of Spanish HG injectable Winstrol, 4 amps a day or so. GHB and Adderall or Ritalin tabs. This assuming he actually plans on stepping on stage. :D
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He admits to being one of the earliest users of growth hormone.
but but but but 'Be there' is a part time psychologist and can thus precisely tell you about his usage. Also taking into account the 'personality' of Paris he just isn't the kind of guy who uses high dosages. 3...2...1... a picture of 'be there' from his instagram profile telling you one doesn't need high doses.
(http://i.giphy.com/h2MLtoOjxtkGY.gif)
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but but but but 'Be there' is a part time psychologist and can thus precisely tell you about his usage. Also taking into account the 'personality' of Paris he just isn't the kind of guy who uses high dosages. 3...2...1... a picture of 'be there' from his instagram profile telling you one doesn't need high doses.
(http://i.giphy.com/h2MLtoOjxtkGY.gif)
I dont have an instagram profile, Im not that egotistical.
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I dont have an instagram profile, Im not that egotistical.
You could simply post picture of apples.
Pictures of apples aren't egotistical.
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At about this time I would guess Anadrol 200mg and climbing. Winstrol 100mg and climbing. Humatrope at at least 12iu. Insulin days here and there. Tren, EQ, Test prop, NPP. Soon lots of Spanish HG injectable Winstrol, 4 amps a day or so. GHB and Adderall or Ritalin tabs. This assuming he actually plans on stepping on stage. :D
ADD Kick's in as the show nears :D
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re the OPs pick, its clear Phil and Kai are thicker, more mass and grainier than Kev, but that was 1990s Kev on 1990s gear...
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He admits to being one of the earliest users of growth hormone.
Does look like the only thing hes missing is slin, but the gear must be through the roof, don't even blame them really, shit was legal and they probably approached it with the same mentality newbs do with creatine and preworkouts etc, 1 scoop? Pfft more like 3.
Living through the crack down on steroids in sports, the social stigma involved and seeing the repercussions of heavy use appearing in fellow bbers probably explains why they lie the hardest.
At the same time i don't think any bber especially modern bbers should be given as much shit as they get considering they make the choice knowingly nowadays, we don't berate rally car drivers for burning 50-100k to risk their lives in a purpose built death machine for example.
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re the OPs pick, its clear Phil and Kai are thicker, more mass and grainier than Kev, but that was 1990s Kev on 1990s gear...
It's only clear if you ignore the fact that they are pictures from different sources and conditions.
Both Phil and Kai are completely grainy (more so phil), ie, even their faces. The pictures are different.
Don't really remember Phil being particularly grainy, ever. That's why he is often criticised as being "made of rubber".
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He admits to being one of the earliest users of growth hormone.
Did you hear that sitting on a stool at the gym counter or do you have a source?
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Did you hear that sitting on a stool at the gym counter or do you have a source?
Paris admitted it while sitting on an upside down stool in an interview.
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Does look like the only thing hes missing is slin, but the gear must be through the roof, don't even blame them really, shit was legal and they probably approached it with the same mentality newbs do with creatine and preworkouts etc, 1 scoop? Pfft more like 3.
Living through the crack down on steroids in sports, the social stigma involved and seeing the repercussions of heavy use appearing in fellow bbers probably explains why they lie the hardest.
At the same time i don't think any bber especially modern bbers should be given as much shit as they get considering they make the choice knowingly nowadays, we don't berate rally car drivers for burning 50-100k to risk their lives in a purpose built death machine for example.
See Paris in 1990 compared to his 88, looks like he came off altogether, then back up again in 91.
He never had huge size or freaky condition which leads me to believe his usage wasnt that great
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Paris admitted it while sitting on an upside down stool in an interview.
Admittedly through gritted teeth.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=614660.0;attach=685869)
He will NEVER look like that ever again... no matter what type/how many drugs he does.
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Did you hear that sitting on a stool at the gym counter or do you have a source?
Gorilla Suit, his book. But it was some absurdly low dose, a couple of units a week, couldn't tell if it did anything. Protropin iirc, the first synthetic gh. What it does is show how guys were willing to try new stuff at crazy expensive prices.
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At about this time I would guess Anadrol 200mg and climbing. Winstrol 100mg and climbing. Humatrope at at least 12iu. Insulin days here and there. Tren, EQ, Test prop, NPP. Soon lots of Spanish HG injectable Winstrol, 4 amps a day or so. GHB and Adderall or Ritalin tabs. This assuming he actually plans on stepping on stage. :D
hey van, what would he (or any pro builder) need GHB, adderall or ritalin in there for? I have seen this mentioned before, but never why those are added.
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Two things.
1. Kevin will look good and not embarrass himself. I think he'll crack the top 10 or be on the cusp.
2a. I don't believe he is using or is going to use several grams of gear per week. I'm sure he'll use between 1-2 grams per week plus some gh. He
is a hyper responder and a genetic freak.
2b. We can debate this til the end of time. The best guys in the world, the guys who routinely come in the top 6 do not need nor do they use the amounts
of gear most getbiggers think they do. Get over it.
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hey van, what would he (or any pro builder) need GHB, adderall or ritalin in there for? I have seen this mentioned before, but never why those are added.
This was just a wild guess on my part :D They aren't needed, but these drugs have been, and are, popular in pro bb circles. The reason is that rec drugs help a lot when dieting and feeling like death. It's not so much for gh release (ghb) or metabolism (the stimulants) as the "mental" issues. Same with pain killers. It's not that your back or shoulders hurt so much as it's that it's easier to diet when high. GHB and benzos help with sleep obviously as well, and sleep is a problem when dieting hard and on tons of androgens and stimulants. Kevin reportedly is an alcoholic, but booze isn't the best choise for prep, better to do ghb or benzos or even weed as "downers".
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See Paris in 1990 compared to his 88, looks like he came off altogether, then back up again in 91.
He never had huge size or freaky condition which leads me to believe his usage wasnt that great
It was minimal and what most of the posters on here don't understand is that it didn't take much as most of the gear back then was REAL.
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Exactly test 500 ect doesn't exist, even Anavar tabs were much much stronger.
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It's a myth that there's little real steroids available these days. The quantities produced now are absolutely enormous.
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help me a lot
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Two things.
1. Kevin will look good and not embarrass himself. I think he'll crack the top 10 or be on the cusp.
2a. I don't believe he is using or is going to use several grams of gear per week. I'm sure he'll use between 1-2 grams per week plus some gh. He
is a hyper responder and a genetic freak.
2b. We can debate this til the end of time. The best guys in the world, the guys who routinely come in the top 6 do not need nor do they use the amounts
of gear most getbiggers think they do. Get over it.
How the fuck do u know? Your speculations are as good as those that think they take 10 grams a wk, unless u are pinning these guys, u are just another one those guys with an opinion
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"Milk is for babies, Kevin drinks beer!"
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Two things.
1. Kevin will look good and not embarrass himself. I think he'll crack the top 10 or be on the cusp.
2a. I don't believe he is using or is going to use several grams of gear per week. I'm sure he'll use between 1-2 grams per week plus some gh. He
is a hyper responder and a genetic freak. ::) ::)
2b. We can debate this til the end of time. The best guys in the world, the guys who routinely come in the top 6 do not need nor do they use the amounts
of gear most getbiggers think they do. Get over it. ::) ::)
are you even trying ???
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Two things.
1. Kevin will look good and not embarrass himself. I think he'll crack the top 10 or be on the cusp.
2a. I don't believe he is using or is going to use several grams of gear per week. I'm sure he'll use between 1-2 grams per week plus some gh. He
is a hyper responder and a genetic freak.
2b. We can debate this til the end of time. The best guys in the world, the guys who routinely come in the top 6 do not need nor do they use the amounts
of gear most getbiggers think they do. Get over it.
3a. Bullshit.
3b. All of the above.
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"Milk is for babies, Kevin drinks beer!"
Didn't you meant vodka?
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this is kevins secret stack
you gotta want it !
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He will NEVER look like that ever again... no matter what type/how many drugs he does.
I'm not so sure...
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Didn't you meant vodka?
just an Arnold quote, didn't you graduate from bodybuilding elementary school ?
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Will Kev stick with his self confessed minimalist 90's dosage, or will the gloves come off as he picks up the battle thong one last time?
The following is apparently a baseline dose for a competitive "Pro"
2/3g Test
600 Trenbalone
500 Deca
500 Equipoise
50/100 mg Anadrol
Painkillers, aromatase inhibitors and various auxiliaries, e.g: Glucosamine :D
4 IU insulin pre meal coupled with 8/12 IU of legit kegs GH/IGF 1, before bedtime prayers?
Six weeks out: Switch to Primo instead of Deca whilst introducing 100mg of Winstrol EOD?
Back stage: localized trap, delt, lat, pec, tricep, and calve Formebolone (esiclene) injections from his secret 90's stash.
Of course this is nothing but hearsay and conjecture but that's the GetBig standard, so feel free to enlighten.
my Liver cringed by just reading this... :-X
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hey van, what would he (or any pro builder) need GHB, adderall or ritalin in there for? I have seen this mentioned before, but never why those are added.
A basic fundamental of any and all pro bodybuilders is that they put foreign, powerful drugs into their body for the physical and mental effects they provide.
Is it a stretch they may abuse more than anabolics?
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Kevin is still from the generation of "kayfabing the marks" in regards to pulling back the curtain and telling the public what he REALLY takes
is kevin a great responder and probably does well with smaller doses?--yeah--most likely....
but he can kiss my wax, tan ass if he thinks I'm believing what he says in terms of dosage
and I'm not saying that because i think Kevin is a liar
no----it's just because he's from that generation of "naw brother---i don't take any steroids"
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KEVIN LEVRONE DRUG STACK !!! ;D
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4872183&d=1347383355)
HIS SUPPLIER !!! :-X
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=110931.0;attach=124993;image)
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KEVIN LEVRONE DRUG STACK !!! ;D
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4872183&d=1347383355)
HIS SUPPLIER !!! :-X
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=110931.0;attach=124993;image)
this is why Goodrum needs a youtube channel, his picture is posted more online than the top 5 olympians combined
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How the fuck do u know? Your speculations are as good as those that think they take 10 grams a wk, unless u are pinning these guys, u are just another one those guys with an opinion
I know one guy who took top 3 in Nationals on 750mg's per week plus low dose gh.
I know another 2 "brothers" from Detroit who got pro cards on under a gram as well but without the gh. Genetics mean more than the drugs.
Guys at this level also have better access to better gear than most of us do.
You are correct, it is my opinion but your kidding yourself if you think guys like Lee Priest and Dexter who have been in the game for decades are doing the gym rat doses that most of the
internet warriors here claim to do. Less is more. Less is more. Let that sink in and then go and kindly suck a large, hairy cock.
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I know one guy who took top 3 in Nationals on 750mg's per week plus low dose gh.
I know another 2 "brothers" from Detroit who got pro cards on under a gram as well but without the gh. Genetics mean more than the drugs.
Guys at this level also have better access to better gear than most of us do.
You are correct, it is my opinion but your kidding yourself if you think guys like Lee Priest and Dexter who have been in the game for decades are doing the gym rat doses that most of the
internet warriors here claim to do. Less is more. Less is more. Let that sink in and then go and kindly suck a large, hairy cock.
Prepared to be rained on for being gullible or out of the mix, I support your statements, but the lackless getbiggers will attack you for mentioning the word genetics and low dose, sports filled with guys both amateur and pro who have no genetic right to be there, killing themselves with ius and mgs while genetically gifted others do better with a percentage of what their on.
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Though there is a point of diminishing returns, more works better than less. Does anyone think Kevin isn't an extremist when it comes to bodybuilding? Does anyone think the thought process goes like this, "700mg works real well, better not push it, it's just a bb show, it's not that important"?
Here we have a guy with a history of depression and alcoholism and he's the type of guy who isn't going to push it? Kevin said he used to pray his organs wouldn't fail from the abuse.
Take a look at Kevin in 92 then compare to circa 97. Let's say Kevin did pretty low doses to turn pro with his amazing response. But to gain that amount of muscle on top of that takes multiplying the gear doses along with an all you can eat gh and insulin buffet. Regardless of genetics. If Kevin manages to look anything like he used to, even within 30lbs of his best, will take much heavier doses than it used to, on account of his age and the amount of time he was away. Though I still doubt he will get on stage. :D
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Prepared to be rained on for being gullible or out of the mix, I support your statements, but the lackless getbiggers will attack you for mentioning the word genetics and low dose, sports filled with guys both amateur and pro who have no genetic right to be there, killing themselves with ius and mgs while genetically gifted others do better with a percentage of what their on.
I'm wearing my slicker and have my umbrella close by.
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It's just common sense.
Kevin was trying to be number 1 for years but never got there. Do you honestly believe he said, I'm a super responder, but I'm just not willing to go over 2g cause that's too risky. Let me drown myself in alcohol instead?
Isn't it more logical that he pushed his body to the limit of what it could handle before calling it quits? This is what they all do. Unfortunately some even push beyond that.
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I know one guy who took top 3 in Nationals on 750mg's per week plus low dose gh.
I know another 2 "brothers" from Detroit who got pro cards on under a gram as well but without the gh. Genetics mean more than the drugs.
Guys at this level also have better access to better gear than most of us do.
You are correct, it is my opinion but your kidding yourself if you think guys like Lee Priest and Dexter who have been in the game for decades are doing the gym rat doses that most of the
internet warriors here claim to do. Less is more. Less is more. Let that sink in and then go and kindly suck a large, hairy cock.
Complete bs! "2 brothers" from Detroit ::)
Who are these competitors, why don't u share their names?
We can play this all day with the "I know this one person" who took this and that
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Prepared to be rained on for being gullible or out of the mix, I support your statements, but the lackless getbiggers will attack you for mentioning the word genetics and low dose, sports filled with guys both amateur and pro who have no genetic right to be there, killing themselves with ius and mgs while genetically gifted others do better with a percentage of what their on.
So u supporting his claim of the elite genetically gifted only taking 750 mg of test with some low doses of GH and placing top 3 at nationals? ::)
Or his "2 brothers" from Detroit who turned pro? Hahaha
No one is claiming or at least I am not, that pros are using 10 grams a wk, but let's not kid ourselves about some of these super low dosages that some claim on here either
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Though there is a point of diminishing returns, more works better than less. Does anyone think Kevin isn't an extremist when it comes to bodybuilding? Does anyone think the thought process goes like this, "700mg works real well, better not push it, it's just a bb show, it's not that important"?
Here we have a guy with a history of depression and alcoholism and he's the type of guy who isn't going to push it? Kevin said he used to pray his organs wouldn't fail from the abuse.
Take a look at Kevin in 92 then compare to circa 97. Let's say Kevin did pretty low doses to turn pro with his amazing response. But to gain that amount of muscle on top of that takes multiplying the gear doses along with an all you can eat gh and insulin buffet. Regardless of genetics. If Kevin manages to look anything like he used to, even within 30lbs of his best, will take much heavier doses than it used to, on account of his age and the amount of time he was away. Though I still doubt he will get on stage. :D
X2
Or how about Ronnie from 2002 to 2003/2004 transformation? Yeah that's low dosages, correct? :D Ronnie, after all has elite genetics, best of the best, or Dexter, who started as a bantam weight bber managed to pack over 230 pounds on a 5'6 frame?
One of the few guys on here that's actually knowledgable
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Two things.
1. Kevin will look good and not embarrass himself. I think he'll crack the top 10 or be on the cusp.
2a. I don't believe he is using or is going to use several grams of gear per week. I'm sure he'll use between 1-2 grams per week plus some gh. He
is a hyper responder and a genetic freak.
2b. We can debate this til the end of time. The best guys in the world, the guys who routinely come in the top 6 do not need nor do they use the amounts
of gear most getbiggers think they do. Get over it.
THIS
jealousy runs deep amongst many fellas
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So u supporting his claim of the elite genetically gifted only taking 750 mg of test with some low doses of GH and placing top 3 at nationals? ::)
Or his "2 brothers" from Detroit who turned pro? Hahaha
No one is claiming or at least I am not, that pros are using 10 grams a wk, but let's not kid ourselves about some of these super low dosages that some claim on here either
Here is a better question.
Are you saying it is physically impossible for there to be people walking this earth who are drastically better responders to gear than the level you understand by virtue of the experiences you personally (and those around you) have had?
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Complete bs! "2 brothers" from Detroit ::)
Who are these competitors, why don't u share their names?
We can play this all day with the "I know this one person" who took this and that
They're solid bros man, how can you call out their bro-ness in this fashion?
They're good to go.
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Though there is a point of diminishing returns, more works better than less. Does anyone think Kevin isn't an extremist when it comes to bodybuilding? Does anyone think the thought process goes like this, "700mg works real well, better not push it, it's just a bb show, it's not that important"?
Here we have a guy with a history of depression and alcoholism and he's the type of guy who isn't going to push it? Kevin said he used to pray his organs wouldn't fail from the abuse.
Take a look at Kevin in 92 then compare to circa 97. Let's say Kevin did pretty low doses to turn pro with his amazing response. But to gain that amount of muscle on top of that takes multiplying the gear doses along with an all you can eat gh and insulin buffet. Regardless of genetics. If Kevin manages to look anything like he used to, even within 30lbs of his best, will take much heavier doses than it used to, on account of his age and the amount of time he was away. Though I still doubt he will get on stage. :D
according to 15 the best a 5'10" fella can hope for sans gh slin is 220 @ 8% and that's genetically gifted fellas
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Here is a better question.
Are you saying it is physically impossible for there to be people walking this earth who are drastically better responders to gear than the level you understand by virtue of the experiences you personally (and those around you) have had?
heres a better answer
What's considered high dosages and what is considered low top amat and pros?
And do u honestly believe Abrahams claim of taking 750 mg and low GH and placing top 3 nationals or how he knows 2 guys that turned pro under a gram?
A lot of guys might have turned pro on "lesser dosages" but after turning pro a lot of them change drastically, Phil, branch, Kai, Ronnie, flex, etc... Hmmmm just training, huh?
Just think about
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Here is a better question.
Are you saying it is physically impossible for there to be people walking this earth who are drastically better responders to gear than the level you understand by virtue of the experiences you personally (and those around you) have had?
Drug response differs but the differences fall within a reasonable range. Fact of the matter is that the top pros use fairly similar dosages across the board... because drug responses do not differ that much. What differs is more the muscle insertions and proportions. You can't do anything about those. Everyone wants the maximum effect from drugs though, so they use what trial and error has shown to be the "sweet spot".
If drug responses differed greatly a doctor could never write a script for any drug.
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Drug response differs but the differences fall within a reasonable range. Fact of the matter is that the top pros use fairly similar dosages across the board... because drug responses do not differ that much. What differs is more the muscle insertions and proportions. You can't do anything about those. Everyone wants the maximum effect from drugs though, so they use what trial and error has shown to be the "sweet spot".
If drug responses differed greatly a doctor could never write a script for any drug.
so what's the sweet spot for each major drug?
is it 100 mg anadrol and 600 mg deca? this is what most sources claim
and was god right that if you are gonna use over 1 gram of test that you need to add gh into the mix?
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If drug responses differed greatly a doctor could never write a script for any drug.
That's an interesting point - however, isn't it also true that steroid dosages used by bodybuilders are vastly larger than legitimate medical prescriptions?
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Drug response differs but the differences fall within a reasonable range. Fact of the matter is that the top pros use fairly similar dosages across the board... because drug responses do not differ that much. What differs is more the muscle insertions and proportions. You can't do anything about those. Everyone wants the maximum effect from drugs though, so they use what trial and error has shown to be the "sweet spot".
If drug responses differed greatly a doctor could never write a script for any drug.
you are right overall, but some people are just freaks or do hardly respond at all....goes for all kinds of drugs. I once gave a patient some neuroleptics to ease down a bit, but nothing happened. In the end he needed a dose that could have put an elefant to sleep for a week.
Guys like Flex Wheeler respond enormously to PED....others like Lee Priest much less.
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you are right overall, but some people are just freaks or do hardly respond at all....goes for all kinds of drugs. I once gave a patient some neuroleptics to ease down a bit, but nothing happened. In the end he needed a dose that could have put an elefant to sleep for a week.
Guys like Flex Wheeler respond enormously to PED....others like Lee Priest much less.
So much so that his kidney fell out ;D
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So much so that his kidney fell out ;D
No that was them ninjas doing.
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Guys like Flex Wheeler respond enormously to PED....others like Lee Priest much less.
What the hell :D Priest is always used as the example of miniscule dosages. Wheeler never claimed such low doses. Why do you say that?
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That's an interesting point - however, isn't it also true that steroid dosages used by bodybuilders are vastly larger than legitimate medical prescriptions?
Of course. Today's bodybuilders arrived at their dosages through experimentation. Though GH is used at crazy doses for HIV wasting - up to 18iu which is higher than the most common bb doses. Mostly due to cost I would say.
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What the hell :D Priest is always used as the example of miniscule dosages. Wheeler never claimed such low doses. Why do you say that?
just what I mean, Lee didn't need much. Wheeler did. We agree, VB !
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heres a better answer
What's considered high dosages and what is considered low top amat and pros?
And do u honestly believe Abrahams claim of taking 750 mg and low GH and placing top 3 nationals or how he knows 2 guys that turned pro under a gram?
A lot of guys might have turned pro on "lesser dosages" but after turning pro a lot of them change drastically, Phil, branch, Kai, Ronnie, flex, etc... Hmmmm just training, huh?
Just think about
My friend who took 2nd as a middleweight in a pro qualifier used 1cc of test suspension or test propionate (can't remember which one) and 1cc of primobolan every other day. He also used 40mg's of either tbol or anavar daily (can't remember which one was for this particular show, as he used them both at different times. Plus 2-4 iu's of real gh. So if you do the math, that averages out to 805mg's per week plus gh. Guess what else? His off season usage consisted of only 1-2 amps of testoviron for 1 10-12 week cycle. So go ahead and pump you ass full of oil and god knows what else and we'll see you on the Olympia stage soon. OK?
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Abraham and honest are fucking lieing scrum. I watched kevin leverones youtube videos when he was doing the leverone report he was on an exaggerated trt dose and he wasn't looking very freaky he was probably taking your standard 500 test and gh. Of course he has to blast the hell out of gear to get in Olympia condition don't fucking piss down my back and tell me it's raining you fucking goofs. These guys aren't gods they have great response but they still run a shit load of gear.
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U are an idiot and it's not even funny anymore haha
So what are thier names stud?
And why do u assume I'm following "the dream" of bbing , I could care less, it's irrelevant to the topic at hand
Plus u haven't answered my question at hand? U think levrone takes "low dosages"?? How about Ronnie from his transformation in 2003/2004? How about flex wheeler? Or branch? Hmmmm they looked a lot different than when they turned pro? Lemme guess it's the creatine, Charles glass methods? Haha
Those guys I've mentioned all have superior genetics according to u, so u think they just took a gram or two to achieve what they got?
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Abraham and honest are fucking lieing scrum. I watched kevin leverones youtube videos when he was doing the leverone report he was on an exaggerated trt dose and he wasn't looking very freaky he was probably taking your standard 500 test and gh. Of course he has to blast the hell out of gear to get in Olympia condition don't fucking piss down my back and tell me it's raining you fucking goofs. These guys aren't gods they have great response but they still run a shit load of gear.
I'm sure Abraham is going to reply with "some people are just more gifted than u," "u are just jealous," blah blah but he'll tell u guys he knows, but won't name names, that turned pro using this much, haha
He could have gotten away with his bs back when there wasn't much social media but today him and all these idiots are going to be called out
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U are an idiot and it's not even funny anymore haha
So what are thier names stud? Not my place to say fruitcake.
And why do u assume I'm following "the dream" of bbing , I could care less, it's irrelevant to the topic at hand For someone who doesn't care, you sure are being a little bitch about it.
Plus u haven't answered my question at hand? U think levrone takes "low dosages"?? How about Ronnie from his transformation in 2003/2004? How about flex wheeler? Or branch? Hmmmm they looked a lot different than when they turned pro? Lemme guess it's the creatine, Charles glass methods? Haha Ronnie was 287 in 2003 and 296 in 2004. Not much of a transformation there. You must mean from 2002 to 2003. Simple, Ronnie way overdieted in 2002 because of the close call he had from Jay in 2001.
Those guys I've mentioned all have superior genetics according to u, so u think they just took a gram or two to achieve what they got? Yes, the upper echelon more than likely take well under 2 grams of gear. Ronnie may very well have gotten his pro card naturally. His genetics and his base made his foray into gear all the more drastic.
I'm just trying to help you and Spiro out. Carry on with sucking each others cox.
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Abraham G sounds like a pro in the know. Lots of friends and colleagues turning pro and sharing protocols.
Guys used some drugs and didn't even diet, they just ate whatever they wanted. Genetics fellas. One of them considered a calorie restricted diet but thought better of it because the extreme diet was unhealthy for a hobby they weren't really into, just trying to have fun and meet chicks.....
I wonder what era these bro/pros were from because the only Detroit based pros I can think of off the top of my head are Ron Love, Darien Bond, John Simmons, Ken Jackson, Steve Kulco and Shelby Starnes....... No brother combos unless one of them is related to Linda Murray :-\
Pros use drugs. They diet. They work out. All of these in abundance.
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Abraham G sounds like a pro in the know. Lots of friends and colleagues turning pro and sharing protocols.
Guys used some drugs and didn't even diet, they just ate whatever they wanted. Genetics fellas. One of them considered a calorie restricted diet but thought better of it because the extreme diet was unhealthy for a hobby they weren't really into, just trying to have fun and meet chicks.....
I wonder what era these bro/pros were from because the only Detroit based pros I can think of off the top of my head are Ron Love, Darien Bond, John Simmons, Ken Jackson, Steve Kulco and Shelby Starnes....... No brother combos unless one of them is related to Linda Murray :-\
Pros use drugs. They diet. They work out. All of these in abundance.
You are much smarter than the two retards above. Yes, I know what two of these fellows you mentioned took back in the 90's.
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You are much smarter than the two retards above. Yes, I know what two of these fellows you mentioned took back in the 90's.
Dude maybe you do. I've learned to trust very few bodybuilders, most that comes out of their mouths consist of lies. The only truthful ones seem to be guys who have stepped away from the sport completely and even then they aren't comfortable sharing what they did (the extreme diversity of the drug combos and what not). They'll share the diets and the workouts, and relive the intensity but the drugs make it seem like they "lessen" the accomplishment, they don't but you get the picture.
There is no arguments that elite genetics trump everything, that is true for whatever "athletic" endeavor one pursues. If you don't have the genetics for it all the drugs won't help, you can get bigger and stronger but you're stuck being Kovacs, Sean Allan or Atwood
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Abraham is a very Jewish name maybe he is Dennis Jewman in disguise
and on a side note some jewish females are sexy as fuck, look up Jen selter
baby got ass
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Abraham and honest are fucking lieing scrum. I watched kevin leverones youtube videos when he was doing the leverone report he was on an exaggerated trt dose and he wasn't looking very freaky he was probably taking your standard 500 test and gh. Of course he has to blast the hell out of gear to get in Olympia condition don't fucking piss down my back and tell me it's raining you fucking goofs. These guys aren't gods they have great response but they still run a shit load of gear.
Sorry but dude, his name is spelled LEVRONE, NOT Leverone. The first time I let it slide, but 2 times in one post ain't going to cut it.
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It's the Weider principles. All these big dudes read the mags.....that's why they got so big.
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It's the Weider principles. All these big dudes read the mags.....that's why they got so big.
8 weeks of mega mass (off season)
8 weeks of cybergenics (pre-olympia)
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I'm just trying to help you and Spiro out. Carry on with sucking each others cox.
Has a huge, uncut cock from what I've been told.
Only on getbig, are there things mr jew Abraham? ;D and u are the one to talk about sucking cock, the irony
whatever helps u sleep at night, yeah can't even name the bbers but claim what they took ::)
Ronnie in 2003/2004 was much bigger than he ever looked, def different than 98-2002. He upped the dosages from 02 to 03 after losing to Gunther, I saw him prep in 03 at metroflex, he looked drastically different than he did that yr than he ever did.
U are still avoiding the question, if they all took under 2 grams then why do all the top pros looked a lot different than when they turned pro? Branch? Flex? Phil? Wolf? Hmmm! It wasn't the training, the dieting, Ronnie a long with many upped the dosages mainly the slin and GH, u didn't hear his speech he gave talking about how flex wheeler was helping him with his drug protocols. It's pretty much common sense
Top genetics + lots of drugs = Ronnie, flex, levrone, Phil, etc...
I'm pretty sure u believe mike Ashley is natural a long with all the muscle mania bbers
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Only on getbig, are there things mr jew Abraham? ;D and u are the one to talk about sucking cock, the irony
whatever helps u sleep at night, yeah can't even name the bbers but claim what they took ::)
Ronnie in 2003/2004 was much bigger than he ever looked, def different than 98-2002. He upped the dosages from 02 to 03 after losing to Gunther, I saw him prep in 03 at metroflex, he looked drastically different than he did that yr than he ever did.
U are still avoiding the question, if they all took under 2 grams then why do all the top pros looked a lot different than when they turned pro? Branch? Flex? Phil? Wolf? Hmmm! It wasn't the training, the dieting, Ronnie a long with many upped the dosages mainly the slin and GH, u didn't hear his speech he gave talking about how flex wheeler was helping him with his drug protocols. It's pretty much common sense
Top genetics + lots of drugs = Ronnie, flex, levrone, Phil, etc...
I'm pretty sure u believe mike Ashley is natural a long with all the muscle mania bbers
LOL @ Mr. Jew Abraham. That's your best foot forward? You are one, pathetic loser.
Ronnie was fucking huge in 2000 and even bigger in 2001. A little too big in 01 so we went overboard in 2002 and came in way too small. He corrected his mistakes and then some. Wasn't like he gained 50lbs
from 02-03. He just didn't diet all his muscle away. Dorian always did the same thing. Sacrificed size for conditioning. Had his body not fallen apart prior to the 97 Olympia we would have seen something Ronnie-esque. Not because he "upped the dose" drastically but because he figured out the right balance between size and conditioning.
Let me be clear. By my standards they took lots of drugs. Over a gram plus slin and gh is a lot of drugs. Go on the steroid forum on this very board and you can read guys taking double and triple those amounts who in only a few cases look like bodybuilders. Low level bodybuilders at that. A guy here I like and respect takes shit tons of drugs, has a good physique but still weighs barely over 200lbs.
I'm getting paid while I banter with you. So we can do this all night. Or at least until I go to the gym.
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LOL @ Mr. Jew Abraham. That's your best foot forward? You are one, pathetic loser.
Ronnie was fucking huge in 2000 and even bigger in 2001. A little too big in 01 so we went overboard in 2002 and came in way too small. He corrected his mistakes and then some. Wasn't like he gained 50lbs
from 02-03. He just didn't diet all his muscle away. Dorian always did the same thing. Sacrificed size for conditioning. Had his body not fallen apart prior to the 97 Olympia we would have seen something Ronnie-esque. Not because he "upped the dose" drastically but because he figured out the right balance between size and conditioning.
Let me be clear. By my standards they took lots of drugs. Over a gram plus slin and gh is a lot of drugs. Go on the steroid forum on this very board and you can read guys taking double and triple those amounts who in only a few cases look like bodybuilders. Low level bodybuilders at that. A guy here I like and respect takes shit tons of drugs, has a good physique but still weighs barely over 200lbs.
I'm getting paid while I banter with you. So we can do this all night. Or at least until I go to the gym.
I'm not the one lusting after another pros "huge, uncut cock from what I've been told" hmmm and I'm the pathetic loser :D
No ones debating genetics is a main factor but to downplay all these low dosages is absurd, and just saying it's all in the dieting is crazy. They did up the dosages and in most cases it is the GH and slin among other stuff, let's not be naive
I'm friends with Jeff Dwelle who is a trainer and coach in my area and we had a discussion a while back and we were talking about branch and he told me he just can't believe he's still a live taking all the stuff he's taken
I train at destination Dallas and see many pros Kuclo, Latona; Kevin ofrum, Johnnie and branch are there sometimes a long with lots of amateurs so I know a bit of what I am talking about
Yes, some take less, some more, but no it's not just test, a few tabs of d Bol, anadrol or whatever "gym rat" cycles that u mentioned
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And since u won't name any of the competitors u claim, I know Jonathan Irizarry who is a top heavy weight nationals competitor and u can look him up, he never told me exactly what he takes but we've had discussions and he admitted even with genetics it takes a lot, and not the gram or 2 u claim. This guy has good genetics and shape
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I'm getting paid while I banter with you. So we can do this all night. Or at least until I go to the gym.
so you are Dennis Jewman
how's the training going brosef? and do you still hold winny v in such a high regard as you did in the Tom Platz interview?
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But putting everything aside: Kevin should have made a comeback much earlier, some 10 years ago.
Now it's just a joke, a great BB like Levrone should not do this at 50+
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I'm not the one lusting after another pros "huge, uncut cock from what I've been told" hmmm and I'm the pathetic loser :D
No ones debating genetics is a main factor but to downplay all these low dosages is absurd, and just saying it's all in the dieting is crazy. They did up the dosages and in most cases it is the GH and slin among other stuff, let's not be naive
I'm friends with Jeff Dwelle who is a trainer and coach in my area and we had a discussion a while back and we were talking about branch and he told me he just can't believe he's still a live taking all the stuff he's taken
I train at destination Dallas and see many pros Kuclo, Latona; Kevin ofrum, Johnnie and branch are there sometimes a long with lots of amateurs so I know a bit of what I am talking about
Yes, some take less, some more, but no it's not just test, a few tabs of d Bol, anadrol or whatever "gym rat" cycles that u mentioned
Branch is a perfect example of less is more. He was much better in his first years as a pro. Now he is flat out disgusting on the eyes. I would attribute that to the excessive amounts of drugs he's taken for the past several years.
Lee Priest is roughly the same age as Branch and he looks just as good (tatoos aside) as he did in his prime. If Lee was taking shit tons of drugs he'd look burned out and fucked up by now. Fact is he uses low doses, trains consistently, is a genetic freak and no longer turns into a lard ass in the off season.
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Branch is a perfect example of less is more. He was much better in his first years as a pro. Now he is flat out disgusting on the eyes. I would attribute that to the excessive amounts of drugs he's taken for the past several years.
Lee Priest is roughly the same age as Branch and he looks just as good (tatoos aside) as he did in his prime. If Lee was taking shit tons of drugs he'd look burned out and fucked up by now. Fact is he uses low doses, trains consistently, is a genetic freak and no longer turns into a lard ass in the off season.
What exactly is low dosages? ;) speculations aside, he could be on "lower dosages" then most pros but it's still relatively a lot compared to gym rats and casual lifters
I would guess it's still in the multiple grams but not in the teens like some take
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But putting everything aside: Kevin should have made a comeback much earlier, some 10 years ago.
Now it's just a joke, a great BB like Levrone should not do this at 50+
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he is 48. Even schmoe luimarco confirmed this
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he is 48. Even schmoe luimarco confirmed this
He's 52. Accept it.
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He's 52. Accept it.
Yep Shawn Ray and Palumbo confirmed it, he was born 1964
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he is 48. Even schmoe luimarco confirmed this
He is from 1965 dude...
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Even if he places last, for a 52 year old guy to show that it can be done to the level he's achieved and in the relative short time he's done it- confirms that yes, in a sense it really IS all drugs if all else is in order.
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Even if he places last, for a 52 year old guy to show that it can be done to the level he's achieved and in the relative short time he's done it- confirms that yes, in a sense it really IS all drugs if all else is in order.
Drugs and drug response is a huge factor; however, I respect Kevin because he trains hard. Phil's method of training works, but is very uninspiring.
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Drugs and drug response is a huge factor; however, I respect Kevin because he trains hard. Phil's method of training works, but is very uninspiring.
If both were natty I imagine Kev's workouts would produce much more results. Phil doesn't even seem to break a sweat when he trains. Reminds me of Paul Dillett... laziest trainer I've ever seen, but one hell of a responder.
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Thanks to Kevin being back this will be the first Olympia for years I will actually follow.
What a genetic freak
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So the claim is a guy who never worked a real job in his life, shits on woman's tits, paints his nails, drives race cars and tattooed his face wouldn't dare take over 500mgs of anabolics because he's worried about the long term health risks?
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nQ7iooZZFi8/maxresdefault.jpg)
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Arms are 22' :o
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So the claim is a guy who never worked a real job in his life, shits on woman's tits, paints his nails, drives race cars and tattooed his face wouldn't dare take over 500mgs of anabolics because he's worried about the long term health risks?
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nQ7iooZZFi8/maxresdefault.jpg)
You say it like these are negatives. Shitting on Kerens tits is noble if not admirable.