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Title: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on November 29, 2016, 06:19:41 AM
a great video from the Heartland Institute.  I'm not sure the left wing, progressive, Al Gore hugging global warmists will have the attention span necessary to watch the whole thing,  but the rest of you will find it enlightening.

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 29, 2016, 06:29:53 AM
So we're all supposed to believe this 90 year old Get off my Lawn grump old man who knows jack shit over the thousands of studies?

I'm not sure why people call climate change a conspiracy.  What are they trying to conspire against?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Skeeter on November 29, 2016, 06:41:35 AM
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Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on November 29, 2016, 07:02:39 AM
95% of climate models proven wrong.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/02/95-of-climate-models-agree-the-observations-must-be-wrong/
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 29, 2016, 07:43:43 AM
95% of climate models proven wrong.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/02/95-of-climate-models-agree-the-observations-must-be-wrong/

Dude, you can google all you want and find these nutcase sites to prove your point.  You can also go on facebook and deny climage change and all of a sudden facebook will just show you posts about climate change being a hoax and you'll think the media is 100% trying to fool you.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Mr Anabolic on November 29, 2016, 08:04:12 AM
Dude, you can google all you want and find these nutcase sites to prove your point.  You can also go on facebook and deny climage change and all of a sudden facebook will just show you posts about climate change being a hoax and you'll think the media is 100% trying to fool you.

The US was warmer in the 1800's than it is now.  The climate always changes... warm to cold, cold to warm.  It's a natural thing and humans have NOTHING to do with it. 
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: residue on November 29, 2016, 08:05:57 AM
95% of climate models proven wrong.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/02/95-of-climate-models-agree-the-observations-must-be-wrong/

looks totally official
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 29, 2016, 08:18:06 AM
The US was warmer in the 1800's than it is now.  The climate always changes... warm to cold, cold to warm.  It's a natural thing and humans have NOTHING to do with it. 

Sure, I bet the 1800 technology was spot on.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 29, 2016, 08:27:16 AM
Leftists are always wrong, about everything:

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 29, 2016, 08:47:38 AM
Leftists are always wrong, about everything:



Lol at the Huffington Post Poll.  They probably asked the 15 lesbian editors and the black mailroom guy who they liked.  Guess who the Black mailman picked?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: tom joad on November 29, 2016, 08:51:15 AM
post-election, Donald is now open-minded about it.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 29, 2016, 08:53:08 AM
Lol at the Huffington Post Poll.  They probably asked the 15 lesbian editors and the black mailroom guy who they liked.  Guess who the Black mailman picked?

It's not too far from the truth. They took shit data, ran it millions of times over, and, surprise, the result was shit.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Sokolsky on November 29, 2016, 08:56:29 AM
Nobody is denying climate change (it's not global warming), rather it's human influence that is up for debate. Something a lot of people apparently seem to miss.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 29, 2016, 09:18:31 AM
Nobody is denying climate change (it's not global warming), rather it's human influence that is up for debate. Something a lot of people apparently seem to miss.

I believe the biggest impact to global warming is not man made but cow made.  Methane gases they emit is horrible.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on November 29, 2016, 09:22:47 AM
Those on the far left, the most vociferous defenders of man made global warming, oh, wait, I mean man made climate change,  are of the same frame of mind as the social justice warriors we see on those laughable youtube videos.  They don't let facts get in the way of what they "feel" is right.  You won't change their minds because they won't listen or investigate the science.

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: mass243 on November 29, 2016, 09:24:53 AM

This is clear for every moderately sane person.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: mass243 on November 29, 2016, 09:29:31 AM
So we're all supposed to believe this 90 year old Get off my Lawn grump old man who knows jack shit over the thousands of studies?

I'm not sure why people call climate change a conspiracy.  What are they trying to conspire against?

More taxes, making the societies poor (by eliminating the industry), overall feminisation of nations (think about young guys not dreaming about fucking loud ass V8 Corvette anymore but wanting a bicycle or fucking electric car).

I remember when I was a kid one girl didn't dare to start my car as she thought it was scary because of the straight pipe induced noise  ;D

These days it's the boys who cover their ears when you give sum' gas.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 29, 2016, 09:30:30 AM
AlGore said we were all going to die in 10 years......that was 11 years ago. Right before he got in his private jet and his mansions that are heated and air conditioned year around.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Howard on November 29, 2016, 10:47:21 AM
AlGore said we were all going to die in 10 years......that was 11 years ago. Right before he got in his private jet and his mansions that are heated and air conditioned year around.

No he didn't.

Here's the actual proof:

You can obtain the seasonal temperatures back 10,000 years from taking ice core samples at the poles.
The % of dissolved oxygen isotopes correlate with the atmospheric temperatures.
There is a pretty consistent seasonal swing for 99% ( 9900 years) of temp and normal climatic variation.
Please note, that the levels of dissolved CO2 stayed steady during this 9900 period.
This is significant, because we don't see a significant rise in CO2 until the industrial age at just over 100 years ago.

BUT, over the last 120 years, the amount of CO2 gas has greatly increased.
Since CO2 ( carbon dioxide) amounts are only  fraction of a %, any change is significant.
Simply plot a graph with CO2 levels vs polar temp and it's obvious.
The linear regression line fits damn near perfectly with the data.

This is objective proof of a causal relationship within the physical sciences.




Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 29, 2016, 11:28:08 AM
No he didn't.

Here's the actual proof:

You can obtain the seasonal temperatures back 10,000 years from taking ice core samples at the poles.
The % of dissolved oxygen isotopes correlate with the atmospheric temperatures.
There is a pretty consistent seasonal swing for 99% ( 9900 years) of temp and normal climatic variation.
Please note, that the levels of dissolved CO2 stayed steady during this 9900 period.
This is significant, because we don't see a significant rise in CO2 until the industrial age at just over 100 years ago.

BUT, over the last 120 years, the amount of CO2 gas has greatly increased.
Since CO2 ( carbon dioxide) amounts are only  fraction of a %, any change is significant.
Simply plot a graph with CO2 levels vs polar temp and it's obvious.
The linear regression line fits damn near perfectly with the data.

This is objective proof of a causal relationship within the physical sciences.






I stand corrected...it was 10 years 11 months ::)

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/andrewalker/2016/01/27/al-gore-end-of-the-world-n2110731


Watch out world, and we are sorry if you had not realised before reading this, the world is ending today. That’s because today is the day that climate change entrepreneur, and former US Vice President, Al Gore warned us would be the beginning of a global emergency.

Mr Gore told his supporters a decade ago that the world had until 27th January 2016 to end its addiction to fossil fuels or the it would come to an end. Gore did not specify what householders might expect to happen today, but he was clear that this would be the end.

The claim was part of the marketing campaign for his hit documentary “An Inconvenient Truth", which he maintains was not a cheap attempt to make money off the green frenzy. Although, by sheer coincidence, it did make him a pile of cash.

Shortly before the film’s release Gore warned today would see "a true planetary emergency." Once again, he offered few details of the problems you might face on your weekly visit to Walmart.

He went on to tell the press: "If you accept the truth of that, then nothing else really matters that much… We have to organize quickly to come up with a coherent and really strong response, and that's what I'm devoting myself to."

Townhall would always warn readers in advance of any impending emergency but on this occasion we feel confident you need not stock up on canned beans. Gore has been making the same claim every week for the past ten years… Which has led us to believe his grim predictions might well be unfounded.

We think you should have a drive in your SUV today to celebrate how great life in America really is. Then crack open a cold beer to offend the health lobby too!
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Rami on November 29, 2016, 11:43:24 AM
Too bad. I want global warming.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Thong Maniac on November 29, 2016, 11:44:12 AM
Dude, you can google all you want and find these nutcase sites to prove your point.  You can also go on facebook and deny climage change and all of a sudden facebook will just show you posts about climate change being a hoax and you'll think the media is 100% trying to fool you.

lol this. good thing the legit science community is already working on this. just let the tin foil hats keep talking about it, it wont change that real solutions are being developed for the problems we face.

"its snowing 3ft in new york ...so much for global warming" lol actually heard sean hannity say that on actual TV, along with "jesus is my lord and savior". lol ok sean

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 29, 2016, 11:46:48 AM
Are people just blind and stupid to not see the issue?  All the smoke from cars, planes and factories is just make believe?  There's days in China where people can't see in front of them from the pollution from the factories.  For the Olympics they shut them all down for two days prior to the opening ceremonies and the skies turned blue, once the Olympics were done they went back to business and the the skies turned cloudy and grey with smoke again.  This is not some myth but real issues you can see with your own eyes and feel with your lungs.  Just look at the horizon of LA, the constant brown and yellow air. 
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on November 29, 2016, 11:52:17 AM
No he didn't.

Here's the actual proof:

You can obtain the seasonal temperatures back 10,000 years from taking ice core samples at the poles.
The % of dissolved oxygen isotopes correlate with the atmospheric temperatures.
There is a pretty consistent seasonal swing for 99% ( 9900 years) of temp and normal climatic variation.
Please note, that the levels of dissolved CO2 stayed steady during this 9900 period.
This is significant, because we don't see a significant rise in CO2 until the industrial age at just over 100 years ago.

BUT, over the last 120 years, the amount of CO2 gas has greatly increased.
Since CO2 ( carbon dioxide) amounts are only  fraction of a %, any change is significant.
Simply plot a graph with CO2 levels vs polar temp and it's obvious.
The linear regression line fits damn near perfectly with the data.

This is objective proof of a causal relationship within the physical sciences.

No one is denying that. What we are denying is that it will cause the results that the leftist lunatics are claiming it will, and requires them to be put in charge, tax us to death, and be told what to do in every part of our existence, by these Fidel Castro wannabes.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Pray_4_War on November 29, 2016, 12:00:26 PM
Man made global warming is a religion to liberals.  They are hysterical zealots.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 29, 2016, 12:26:49 PM
Man made global warming is a religion to liberals.  They are hysterical zealots.

Funny you used religion in your statement.  The republicans believe without a shadow of a doubt about the myth of Jesus and God without an ounce of proof and just blind faith yet for something like climate change that has tangible facts you can see and feel they call it a myth.  Go figure.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on November 29, 2016, 12:31:33 PM
Are people just blind and stupid to not see the issue?  All the smoke from cars, planes and factories is just make believe?  There's days in China where people can't see in front of them from the pollution from the factories.  For the Olympics they shut them all down for two days prior to the opening ceremonies and the skies turned blue, once the Olympics were done they went back to business and the the skies turned cloudy and grey with smoke again.  This is not some myth but real issues you can see with your own eyes and feel with your lungs.  Just look at the horizon of LA, the constant brown and yellow air. 

You are talking about pollution, which is the various particulate matter, most of which is toxic, that issues from auto/diesel exhaust, coal fired power plants that DO NOT have modern scrubbing devices installed or from industrial sources such as steel mills and smelters.  This is all in the developing third world.  THIS IS NOT THE SAME THING AS CO2 EMISSIONS, which the global warming alarmists keep harping on.  CO2 is emitted by all those sources, but it is not a pollutant.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Kazan on November 29, 2016, 12:36:26 PM
I believe the biggest impact to global warming is not man made but cow made.  Methane gases they emit is horrible.

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Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on November 29, 2016, 12:46:14 PM
Funny you used religion in your statement.  The republicans believe without a shadow of a doubt about the myth of Jesus and God without an ounce of proof and just blind faith yet for something like climate change that has tangible facts you can see and feel they call it a myth.  Go figure.

I'm an Atheist, and I call the Climate Change/Global Warming "Science," Bull Shit. And the leftist lunatic environmentalists aren't scientists, but political operatives.

There is a difference between saying that the amount of Carbon Dioxide in the air, has risen a bit, is a scientific fact, and making wild eyed projections of what that
means, and falsely calling that "scientific fact."
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Thong Maniac on November 29, 2016, 12:47:40 PM
You are talking about pollution, which is the various particulate matter, most of which is toxic, that issues from auto/diesel exhaust, coal fired power plants that DO NOT have modern scrubbing devices installed or from industrial sources such as steel mills and smelters.  This is all in the developing third world.  THIS IS NOT THE SAME THING AS CO2 EMISSIONS, which the global warming alarmists keep harping on.  CO2 is emitted by all those sources, but it is not a pollutant.

you dont understand even what global warming is...this is the problem with social media that el diablo pointed out.

the light from the sun bounces off/reflects off those co2 molecules (along with methane, water vapor, ozone, etc). that is WHAT global warming is and how it works. the more of this in our atmosphere, the more reflective warming that occurs.

its not as simple as "my car exhaust wont make the world hotter". thats the sean hannity talking point science you need to throw out. im glad the legit scientific community is working on the problem whether or not Jim Bob Cooter nobody or Sean Hannity "believe" in it.

good point by diablo about neocons blind faith in jesus, but dont you dare show me dem facst of that der global warming trickery. lolz

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: _bruce_ on November 29, 2016, 01:52:06 PM
"Weather" true or not - one can always try to minimize pollution.
What is being attacked is not the environment being harmed but the globalists using this to further their agenda.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: The Gov on November 29, 2016, 03:40:38 PM
The US was warmer in the 1800's than it is now.  The climate always changes... warm to cold, cold to warm.  It's a natural thing and humans have NOTHING to do with it. 

sure the glaciers melting is per norm  ::)
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on November 29, 2016, 03:45:18 PM
sure the glaciers melting is per norm  ::)

glaciers melt and retreat, then grow and expand all the time.  Some glaciers are now melting, others, that were melting and retreating have reversed and are growing again.  It's an on going process.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: The Gov on November 29, 2016, 03:47:49 PM
glaciers melt and retreat, then grow and expand all the time.  Some glaciers are now melting, others, that were melting and retreating have reversed and are growing again.  It's an on going process.

sure maybe a few feet, not miles and metric tons worth.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on November 29, 2016, 04:08:24 PM
sure maybe a few feet, not miles and metric tons worth.

During The Medieval Warm Period, just over a thousand years ago, Greenland's glaciers melyed so far back from the sea that the Vikings were able to settle all over the area, and there was plenty of grassland for their animals. A few hundred years later, during what is called "The Little Ice Age," the glaciers grew again pushing the Vikings into the sea. Literally, many miles, and metric tons, in both directions!

Why do Climate Change zealots ignore these facts of recent history about Real Climate Changes? And why did they actually attempt to make these facts go away, with fake statistical studies, because the facts did not go well with their crackpot beliefs? Do you see why intelligent people are calling this Climate Change Panic, Bull Shit?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Mr Anabolic on November 29, 2016, 04:11:03 PM
Sure, I bet the 1800 technology was spot on.

Huh?   ??? ::)

Liberals have serious, debilitating mental disease.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Thong Maniac on November 29, 2016, 04:18:33 PM
During The Medieval Warm Period, just over a thousand years ago, Greenland's glaciers melyed so far back from the sea that the Vikings were able to settle all over the area, and there was plenty of grassland for their animals. A few hundred years later, during what is called "The Little Ice Age," the glaciers grew again pushing the Vikings into the sea. Literally, many miles, and metric tons, in both directions!

Why do Climate Change zealots ignore these facts of recent history about Real Climate Changes? And why did they actually attempt to make these facts go away, with fake statistical studies, because the facts did not go well with their crackpot beliefs? Do you see why intelligent people are calling this Climate Change Panic, Bull Shit?

why are the sources you read "real" stats, while your opposing sources are "fake" stats? how do you know since you are not part of the scientific or biotech industry who spend their careers and lives focusing on issues like this? will wait for your balanced and logical response. lol, or not, this is a fucking message board with people who think all sorts of silly conspiracys are fact.

let the scientists (on both sides of the research spectrum) handle this. none of us are equipped to figure it out or even debate it. after all, we are wasting time on a thong contest message board. who the fuck are you kidding? "global warming is fake!" ...um cool, feel better now?

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on November 29, 2016, 04:42:46 PM
why are the sources you read "real" stats, while your opposing sources are "fake" stats? how do you know since you are not part of the scientific or biotech industry who spend their careers and lives focusing on issues like this? will wait for your balanced and logical response. lol, or not, this is a fucking message board with people who think all sorts of silly conspiracys are fact.

let the scientists (on both sides of the research spectrum) handle this. none of us are equipped to figure it out or even debate it. after all, we are wasting time on a thong contest message board. who the fuck are you kidding? "global warming is fake!" ...um cool, feel better now?

Then explain why The Medieval Warm Period didn't produce any of the terrible results that are being predicted by so called "scientists" now? There were no floods engulfing coastal areas. London had a large population. It stayed above sea level. Rome had about a million citizen then. Again no flood. Yet the Glaciers in Greenland and Scandinavia melted, along with arctic ice. The polar bears didn't die! And the temperatures were higher than now, and even higher than they are predicted to be in a 100 years? And historians refer to the period as The Medieval
Climate Optimum, as it was so kind to human life. People prospered with the warmer weather, and lived well.

I am posting historical facts. Statistics are accumulations of facts, measured mathematically. But statistics can be used politically, to predict false possibilities. As in the quote, "There are lies, Damn lies, and Statistics." Your so called "scientists" are predicting results that have no historically examples, as in facts, to back up their claims for coming disasters. They're just politically motivated  "fortune tellers" predicting "the end is near!"
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Thong Maniac on November 29, 2016, 04:51:20 PM
Then explain why The Medieval Warm Period didn't produce any of the terrible results that are being predicted by so called "scientists" now? There were no floods engulfing coastal areas. London had a large population. It stayed above sea level. Rome had about a million citizen then. Again no flood. Yet the Glaciers in Greenland and Scandinavia melted, along with arctic ice. The polar bears didn't die! And the temperatures were higher than now, and even higher than they are predicted to be in a 100 years? And historians refer to the period as The Medieval
Climate Optimum, as it was so kind to human life. People prospered with the warmer weather, and lived well.

I am posting historical facts. Statistics are accumulations of facts, measured mathematically. But statistics can be used politically, to predict false possibilities. As in the quote, "There are lies, Damn lies, and Statistics." Your so called "scientists" are predicting results that have no historically examples, as in facts, to back up their claims for coming disasters. They're just politically motivated  "fortune tellers" predicting "the end is near!"

TLDR, got it all out? good. lets chat about thongs again. ill let scientists/academia/biotech solve the global warming issue, not erik C the keyboard warrior and his inside info/facts on BBing message boards lulz
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on November 29, 2016, 04:55:08 PM
TLDR, got it all out? good. lets chat about thongs again. ill let scientists/academia/biotech solve the global warming issue, not erik C the keyboard warrior and his inside info/facts on BBing message boards lulz

You'll have to let others do the talking about Climate Change, as you don't have the knowledge to do so intelligently.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Thong Maniac on November 29, 2016, 05:00:48 PM
You'll have to let others do the talking about Climate Change, as you don't have the knowledge to do so intelligently.

exactly thanks for making my point. engineers/biotech/scientists/academia who focus on this issue. glad they are working on the issue whether Erik C keyboard battler basement dweller has "the facts" or not.



Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: FREAKgeek on November 29, 2016, 05:22:24 PM
  The republicans believe without a shadow of a doubt about the myth of Jesus and God without an ounce of proof and just blind faith yet for something like climate change that has tangible facts you can see and feel they call it a myth.  Go figure.

I'm an agnostic republican, don't lump us all in one category.

You are talking about pollution, which is the various particulate matter, most of which is toxic, that issues from auto/diesel exhaust, coal fired power plants that DO NOT have modern scrubbing devices installed or from industrial sources such as steel mills and smelters.  This is all in the developing third world.  THIS IS NOT THE SAME THING AS CO2 EMISSIONS, which the global warming alarmists keep harping on.  CO2 is emitted by all those sources, but it is not a pollutant.

What you define as a pollutant is arbitrary. There are plenty of natural processes that are deadly. Look at the Co2 levels on Venus. You wouldn't want to be there. I'm not saying that is what is going to happen here, but I keep an open mind. It's still not understood, and certainly not by the politicians on both sides.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Kazan on November 29, 2016, 05:51:45 PM
sure maybe a few feet, not miles and metric tons worth.

So if the glacier is floating in the ocean and melts will the water level rise?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on November 29, 2016, 05:58:49 PM
So if the glacier is floating in the ocean and melts will the water level rise?

No. 90% of an ice berg is already displacing water, as it is underwater. So only the top 10% would make a difference, except that there are micro air bubbles in all glaciers, and that air would escape when the ice melts, further reducing the water amount. That's on top of the fact that when water freezes, it increases in volume, so when it melts it will shrink in volume, resulting in an over all zero effect on water levels, or slightly reducing the global water level.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 29, 2016, 06:01:18 PM
So if the glacier is floating in the ocean and melts will the water level rise?

Not glaciers but the actual icecaps.

Why are republicans so against a clean world ? Regardless of climate change or not why do they want to pollute the shit out of this planet?  Isn't having clean air and clean water worth more than any monetary profit for already billionaires?  Burning oil and coal polluted the air. Dumping chemicals in water polluted the water. These are facts.  Republicans want to use the guise of climate change being a hoax to pollute the shit out of this world for pure profit.   
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Kazan on November 29, 2016, 06:07:49 PM
Not glaciers but the actual icecaps.

Why are republicans so against a clean world ? Regardless of climate change or not why do they want to pollute the shit out of this planet?  Isn't having clean air and clean water worth more than any monetary profit for already billionaires?  Burning oil and coal polluted the air. Dumping chemicals in water polluted the water. These are facts.  Republicans want to use the guise of climate change being a hoax to pollute the shit out of this world for pure profit.   

I am not advocating "polluting the shit out of the world", but has anyone wondered why an ice covered island was called Greenland by the Vikings?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Thong Maniac on November 29, 2016, 06:09:17 PM
Not glaciers but the actual icecaps.

Why are republicans so against a clean world ? Regardless of climate change or not why do they want to pollute the shit out of this planet?  Isn't having clean air and clean water worth more than any monetary profit for already billionaires?  Burning oil and coal polluted the air. Dumping chemicals in water polluted the water. These are facts.  Republicans want to use the guise of climate change being a hoax to pollute the shit out of this world for pure profit.   

1. environmental regulations hurt big business (white collar repub elite problem)
2. Man can do as he wishes to the planet, since its "gods" land, and god made man to do as he wishes to the planet (this covers the blue collar jesus faction of republicans)

this is what I have noticed why republicans are against any clean air or environmental regs
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Kazan on November 29, 2016, 06:27:43 PM
The left (dems) say one thing the right (reps) say something else, the truth lies somewhere in between
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 29, 2016, 06:45:01 PM
1. environmental regulations hurt big business (white collar repub elite problem)
2. Man can do as he wishes to the planet, since its "gods" land, and god made man to do as he wishes to the planet (this covers the blue collar jesus faction of republicans)

this is what I have noticed why republicans are against any clean air or environmental regs

1. It's everyone's problem. You can't have an economy of scale without big business. Mom&Pop can only make so many IPhones in the back room.

2. Leftists seem to live under the illusion that the planet is a kind and gentle place that is continually being violated by the evil white man, when in reality, nature is very cruel and stingy. It's constantly trying to starve you, drown you, eat you, destroy your house, crush you, burn you, freeze you to death, etc, and not give the slightest bit of a f**k.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Parker on November 29, 2016, 07:30:31 PM
Then explain why The Medieval Warm Period didn't produce any of the terrible results that are being predicted by so called "scientists" now? There were no floods engulfing coastal areas. London had a large population. It stayed above sea level. Rome had about a million citizen then. Again no flood. Yet the Glaciers in Greenland and Scandinavia melted, along with arctic ice. The polar bears didn't die! And the temperatures were higher than now, and even higher than they are predicted to be in a 100 years? And historians refer to the period as The Medieval
Climate Optimum, as it was so kind to human life. People prospered with the warmer weather, and lived well.

I am posting historical facts. Statistics are accumulations of facts, measured mathematically. But statistics can be used politically, to predict false possibilities. As in the quote, "There are lies, Damn lies, and Statistics." Your so called "scientists" are predicting results that have no historically examples, as in facts, to back up their claims for coming disasters. They're just politically motivated  "fortune tellers" predicting "the end is near!"
Well, you do know that back then, there were NO HOLES IN THE OZONE LAYER!!!
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on November 29, 2016, 07:42:58 PM
Well, you do know that back then, there were NO HOLES IN THE OZONE LAYER!!!

There were holes in the ozone layer back then. There are holes in the ozone layer at the polar regions every year. They are telling you about it today, yet it has always been true. During the polar winter season, it is dark and clouded over, as it gets no sunlight, and the ice and water doesn't reflect sunlight. In the polar summer season, the cloud cover is burnt off by the 24 hour sunlight, and in that 24 hour sunlight, or the Earth's albedo, the ice and water reflect the sunlight up, and the reflected sunlight heats the ozone layer, spreading out the ozone units, thereby thinning the ozone layer.

It happens every year that way, at both of Earth's poles. Now aren't you glad you asked that stupid question?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: The Gov on November 29, 2016, 08:13:04 PM
There were holes in the ozone layer back then. There are holes in the ozone layer at the polar regions every year. They are telling you about it today, yet it has always been true. During the polar winter season, it is dark and clouded over, as it gets no sunlight, and the ice and water doesn't reflect sunlight. In the polar summer season, the cloud cover is burnt off by the 24 hour sunlight, and in that 24 hour sunlight, or the Earth's albedo, the ice and water reflect the sunlight up, and the reflected sunlight heats the ozone layer, spreading out the ozone units, thereby thinning the ozone layer.

It happens every year that way, at both of Earth's poles. Now aren't you glad you asked that stupid question?

so you believe all the pollution has had zero effect on the climate?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on November 29, 2016, 08:24:23 PM
so you believe all the pollution has had zero effect on the climate?

CO2 isn't a pollutant, nor is it destroying Planet Earth. In fact trees are responding well to the slightly higher CO2, by growing faster and larger. We've been having record crops lately too. Plants "breathe" CO2.

Climate Change is a scam.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 30, 2016, 07:58:22 AM
CO2 isn't a pollutant, nor is it destroying Planet Earth. In fact trees are responding well to the slightly higher CO2, by growing faster and larger. We've been having record crops lately too. Plants "breathe" CO2.

Climate Change is a scam.

even if it's a scam, what's the big deal with wanting to have clean water and clean air?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on November 30, 2016, 08:15:43 AM
even if it's a scam, what's the big deal with wanting to have clean water and clean air?

Go and actually watch the 2 videos I posted.  You will understand that cheap electricity from fossil fuels provides the means to clean up the environment.  Cheap electricity from fossil fuels has done more to raise the standard of living and raise people out of poverty than any other thing in the history of the world. 
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 30, 2016, 08:22:05 AM
Go and actually watch the 2 videos I posted.  You will understand that cheap electricity from fossil fuels provides the means to clean up the environment.  Cheap electricity from fossil fuels has done more to raise the standard of living and raise people out of poverty than any other thing in the history of the world. 

cheap doesn't mean good.  It's cheap and easy but with a price.  Not sure where you live but go spend a day in LA and you'll know what I mean.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on November 30, 2016, 08:37:05 AM
even if it's a scam, what's the big deal with wanting to have clean water and clean air?

Pollution is real, Climate Change is the Scam. There is a huge difference between air pollution from car exhaust in cities, and slightly rising CO2 levels causing melting glaciers, rising sea levels, and flooding all the coastal area of the world, inundating major cities. There is no evidence that the latter will happen at all. It's just wild speculation, as scare tactic for political leftists to use, to raise taxes, and demand ever more government.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Pray_4_War on November 30, 2016, 09:22:08 AM
Erik C, I could not agree more.  I don't think anyone is advocating on behalf of air pollution and destroying the planet.  The issues at hand are these...

A.  Are human beings and our use of fossil fuels causing the climate to change in a drastic and dangerous way?

B.  Will taxing and regulating the shit out of the United States solve this problem?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Howard on December 01, 2016, 06:10:16 AM
I stand corrected...it was 10 years 11 months ::)

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/andrewalker/2016/01/27/al-gore-end-of-the-world-n2110731


Watch out world, and we are sorry if you had not realised before reading this, the world is ending today. That’s because today is the day that climate change entrepreneur, and former US Vice President, Al Gore warned us would be the beginning of a global emergency.

Mr Gore told his supporters a decade ago that the world had until 27th January 2016 to end its addiction to fossil fuels or the it would come to an end. Gore did not specify what householders might expect to happen today, but he was clear that this would be the end.

The claim was part of the marketing campaign for his hit documentary “An Inconvenient Truth", which he maintains was not a cheap attempt to make money off the green frenzy. Although, by sheer coincidence, it did make him a pile of cash.

Shortly before the film’s release Gore warned today would see "a true planetary emergency." Once again, he offered few details of the problems you might face on your weekly visit to Walmart.

He went on to tell the press: "If you accept the truth of that, then nothing else really matters that much… We have to organize quickly to come up with a coherent and really strong response, and that's what I'm devoting myself to."

Townhall would always warn readers in advance of any impending emergency but on this occasion we feel confident you need not stock up on canned beans. Gore has been making the same claim every week for the past ten years… Which has led us to believe his grim predictions might well be unfounded.

We think you should have a drive in your SUV today to celebrate how great life in America really is. Then crack open a cold beer to offend the health lobby too!


Coach did you even read my reply on the basic proof.

C'mon, we have a near perfect linear regression line  fit between the variables of increased CO2 in the atmosphere and polar temperatures for the past century *120 years ( start of the industrial age ). In the previous 9990 years this  correlation was NON-existent.

Based on that data, do you still think it's no big deal or some crazy hoax?
The majority of replies to the objective proof I provided IGNORE analysis of the data.
I must conclude, they simply don't comprehend the implications or they refuse to debate on the merits of the data.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Necrosis on December 01, 2016, 06:15:58 AM
CO2 isn't a pollutant, nor is it destroying Planet Earth. In fact trees are responding well to the slightly higher CO2, by growing faster and larger. We've been having record crops lately too. Plants "breathe" CO2.

Climate Change is a scam.

This is retarded, co2 is a greenhouse gas, we have other planets with super high co2 like venus which would melt your face. Record crops my ass, we have seen some of the biggest droughts in recorded history in the last decade.

Ever hear of the runaway greenhouse effect?

To believe you we have to ignore anyone who knows anything about the climate.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: The Gov on December 01, 2016, 06:52:24 AM
all I know is the world is on a direct path to destruction due to Man.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Simple Simon on December 01, 2016, 06:53:17 AM
all I know is the world is on a direct path to destruction due to Man.

the world will be here long after mans gone...
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on December 01, 2016, 07:07:25 AM
This is retarded, co2 is a greenhouse gas, we have other planets with super high co2 like venus which would melt your face. Record crops my ass, we have seen some of the biggest droughts in recorded history in the last decade.

Ever hear of the runaway greenhouse effect?

To believe you we have to ignore anyone who knows anything about the climate.

Clearly Necrosis, you do not know anything truthful about climate change. 

Earth has become 14% greener over the last 30 years.

http://www.thegwpf.org/matt-ridley-global-warming-versus-global-greening/
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Simple Simon on December 01, 2016, 07:12:01 AM
This is retarded, co2 is a greenhouse gas, we have other planets with super high co2 like venus which would melt your face. Record crops my ass, we have seen some of the biggest droughts in recorded history in the last decade.

Ever hear of the runaway greenhouse effect?

To believe you we have to ignore anyone who knows anything about the climate.
no, is it something someone made up to scare people?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: _bruce_ on December 01, 2016, 07:19:08 AM
This always ends up in a quasi "collectivist" vs quasi "libertarian" shit fest.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on December 01, 2016, 07:21:36 AM
This is retarded, co2 is a greenhouse gas, we have other planets with super high co2 like venus which would melt your face. Record crops my ass, we have seen some of the biggest droughts in recorded history in the last decade.

Ever hear of the runaway greenhouse effect?

To believe you we have to ignore anyone who knows anything about the climate.

Necrosis, regarding droughts, again see
http://www.thegwpf.org/matt-ridley-global-warming-versus-global-greening/
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 01, 2016, 07:25:45 AM
I can't believe the retards of getbig.  You can google any fucking thing you want and find stats on it.  If you fucking beat this prick long enough, he'll tell you he started the goddamn Chicago fire, now that don't necessarily make it fucking so!
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Howard on December 01, 2016, 08:17:00 AM
I can't believe the retards of getbig.  You can google any fucking thing you want and find stats on it.  If you fucking beat this prick long enough, he'll tell you he started the goddamn Chicago fire, now that don't necessarily make it fucking so!

It's getbig,some know better and are just trolling and some are retards living like Jason Genova.
Impossible to really know who' who?  ???
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Necrosis on December 01, 2016, 08:18:43 AM
Clearly Necrosis, you do not know anything truthful about climate change. 

Earth has become 14% greener over the last 30 years.

http://www.thegwpf.org/matt-ridley-global-warming-versus-global-greening/

I have done this with you before, you use half baked bullshit to support your stance.

we are currently in the 6th mass extinction event on the planet, but it's a bit greener!!
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Howard on December 01, 2016, 09:14:06 AM
As GET BIG forum grows larger, doomsday comes closer.

Correlation ? No doubt.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 01, 2016, 09:21:39 AM
This is retarded, co2 is a greenhouse gas, we have other planets with super high co2 like venus which would melt your face. Record crops my ass, we have seen some of the biggest droughts in recorded history in the last decade.

Ever hear of the runaway greenhouse effect?

To believe you we have to ignore anyone who TELLS LIES about anything about the climate. FIXED!

Venus is hotter than Earth because it is closer to the Sun. It's not an example of a CO2 caused runaway greenhouse effect.

The Earth atmosphere's current CO2 level amounts to only 400 ppm, that's parts per million! A mere small fraction of a percent of the Earth's atmosphere. Not even close to a CO2 caused runaway greenhouse effect is possible in the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2016, 10:04:26 AM
Coach did you even read my reply on the basic proof.

C'mon, we have a near perfect linear regression line  fit between the variables of increased CO2 in the atmosphere and polar temperatures for the past century *120 years ( start of the industrial age ). In the previous 9990 years this  correlation was NON-existent.

Based on that data, do you still think it's no big deal or some crazy hoax?
The majority of replies to the objective proof I provided IGNORE analysis of the data.
I must conclude, they simply don't comprehend the implications or they refuse to debate on the merits of the data.


Yes, and did you read my articles about how NOAA and NASA were caught making up false data?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 01, 2016, 10:09:34 AM
Yes, and did you read my articles about how NOAA and NASA were caught making up false data?

Not sure why anyone would read or listen to a thing you post or say.  You seriously are one of the biggest fucking retards I have ever come across in my life and I've come across a lot.  My IQ loses points every time I read a post of yours.  These days I just simply ignore threads started by you so my blood pressure doesn't rise from reading your fucking utter nonsense.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Necrosis on December 01, 2016, 10:24:04 AM
Venus is hotter than Earth because it is closer to the Sun. It's not an example of a CO2 caused runaway greenhouse effect.

The Earth atmosphere's current CO2 level amounts to only 400 ppm, that's parts per million! A mere small fraction of a percent of the Earth's atmosphere. Not even close to a CO2 caused runaway greenhouse effect is possible in the foreseeable future.

why is venus hotter than mercury? LMAO.

CO2 increases surface temps, our permafrost is melting releasing methane, this is the situation on Venus, we are not close to this but we causing rapid shifts on a geological time scale, hence the death of whole ecosystems.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 01, 2016, 10:43:09 AM
why is venus hotter than mercury? LMAO.

CO2 increases surface temps, our permafrost is melting releasing methane, this is the situation on Venus, we are not close to this but we causing rapid shifts on a geological time scale, hence the death of whole ecosystems.

Venus is hotter than Mercury, because Mercury doesn't have an atmosphere to trap the Sun's heat.

The tiny amount of CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere isn't causing the surface temperature of the Earth to increase.

"causing rapid shifts on a geological time scale" Where? You keep ignoring the much hotter Medieval Warm Period, just a thousand years ago.

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on December 01, 2016, 10:43:57 AM
Not sure why anyone would read or listen to a thing you post or say.  You seriously are one of the biggest fucking retards I have ever come across in my life and I've come across a lot.  My IQ loses points every time I read a post of yours.  These days I just simply ignore threads started by you so my blood pressure doesn't rise from reading your fucking utter nonsense.

El Diablo Blanco's post just reinforces a point I have made several times in previous threads, that is, the global warming alarmists, who are for the most part of the socialist progressive left,  always seem to engage in ridicule, name calling and often character assassination as a means of refuting those with a different point of view.  They never seem to offer hard evidence given by reputable scientists as a way to bolster their viewpoint.  I think this is because their side has been proven wrong over and over again and they can't come up with a respectable scientific theory based on empirical evidence.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Yamcha on December 01, 2016, 10:54:59 AM
The earth is not dying fast enough, tbh   :-\
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Wiggs on December 01, 2016, 11:03:27 AM
Man made global warming is a lie like the round earth and moon landing. FACT!
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Howard on December 01, 2016, 11:12:10 AM
Yes, and did you read my articles about how NOAA and NASA were caught making up false data?

The data I quoted is pretty clear and redundant.
Here is the cliff notes version:

1. In the late 1800's , the earth's atmosphere began getting drastically higher levels of CO2.

2. This was due to the start of the industrial age and the burning of fuels on a massive scale.

3. The amount of CO2 is quote small ( parts per million) , so any increase is easy to detect.

4. Now plot the avg seasonal temps in the poles for the past 10,000 years * on the Y axis
* You can do this using the % of O2 isotopes in ice core samples.

On the X axis, plot the amount of  CO2 in the atmosphere .

5. Draw a line that fits thru the x, y data points , called a linear regression line.
It's fairly consistent and flat for 9900 years until you get to the late 1800's.
Then we see a rapid increase in slope ( "steepness") which shows a clear trend between
man made CO2 and polar temp increases.

This isn't a close call Coach, it's a scientific fact.

What governments and industries choose to do about it, is where the politics comes in.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 01, 2016, 11:27:06 AM
5. Draw a line that fits thru the x, y data points , called a linear regression line.
It's fairly consistent and flat for 9900 years until you get to the late 1800's.
Then we see a rapid increase in slope ( "steepness") which shows a clear trend between
man made CO2 and polar temp increases.

Not true. The Medieval Warm Period was only a thousand years ago, and was much warmer than today. What caused that? Industrial pollution?

Today CO2 in the Earth Atmosphere in only 400 PPM. It's ridiculous to think that such a tiny amount of CO2 is causing the Earth to get hotter.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Ropo on December 01, 2016, 11:35:57 AM
During The Medieval Warm Period, just over a thousand years ago, Greenland's glaciers melyed so far back from the sea that the Vikings were able to settle all over the area, and there was plenty of grassland for their animals. A few hundred years later, during what is called "The Little Ice Age," the glaciers grew again pushing the Vikings into the sea. Literally, many miles, and metric tons, in both directions!

Why do Climate Change zealots ignore these facts of recent history about Real Climate Changes? And why did they actually attempt to make these facts go away, with fake statistical studies, because the facts did not go well with their crackpot beliefs? Do you see why intelligent people are calling this Climate Change Panic, Bull Shit?

Well, how that medieval warming period effect in the USA thousand years ago? Oh..wait...there wasn't cities like New Orleans and Miami, there were just native Americans and bison's, so how do you compare it to modern times? You can't, so your arguments are futile. You see, if the sea level rise back then, native Americans take their tents and move, and they didn't give a shit about the matter. How exactly you are going to move Manhattan? It is a bit harder than pack your tent on the back of the horse. How many people lives inside the distance of 10 miles from the sea in USA? If we move the shoreline 10 miles towards the inland, where exactly you put all those people? In the grass hut's?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: mass243 on December 01, 2016, 11:42:01 AM

The one willing to go back to time before 1800s should throw the first stone.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 01, 2016, 11:59:12 AM
Well, how that medieval warming period effect in the USA thousand years ago? Oh..wait...there wasn't cities like New Orleans and Miami, there were just native Americans and bison's, so how do you compare it to modern times? You can't, so your arguments are futile. You see, if the sea level rise back then, native Americans take their tents and move, and they didn't give a shit about the matter. How exactly you are going to move Manhattan? It is a bit harder than pack your tent on the back of the horse. How many people lives inside the distance of 10 miles from the sea in USA? If we move the shoreline 10 miles towards the inland, where exactly you put all those people? In the grass hut's?

There are no recorded accounts of flooding in coastal Europe, during the Medieval Warm Period either. Because higher temperatures, don't cause massive flooding. That would require frozen water in the amounts that existed during the last ice age, that didn't exist in the Medieval Warm Period, and doesn't exist now either.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2016, 12:03:31 PM
Whatever might or might not be going on isn't going to affect us or our kids, their kids, their kids kids and so on for the few hundred years. This alarmist mentality that's going on is a money grab plain and simple.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2016, 12:05:40 PM
Here, how f**king ridiculous is this..



http://www.fox5ny.com/news/220448846-story
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2016, 12:07:27 PM
 ::)


(ASSOCIATED PRESS) — GALT, Calif. — California is taking its fight against global warming to the farm.

The nation’s leading agricultural state is now targeting greenhouse gases produced by dairy cows and other livestock.

Despite strong opposition from farmers, Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation in September that for the first time regulates heat-trapping gases from livestock operations and landfills.

Cattle and other farm animals are major sources of methane, a greenhouse gas many times more potent than carbon dioxide as a heat-trapping gas. Methane is released when they belch, pass gas and make manure.


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/no-joke-california-regulates-cow-farts/#QdHBSoAz0cF2QjwI.99
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Ropo on December 01, 2016, 12:12:56 PM
So we're all supposed to believe this 90 year old Get off my Lawn grump old man who knows jack shit over the thousands of studies?

I'm not sure why people call climate change a conspiracy.  What are they trying to conspire against?

Not sure why? Because they are idiots, drooling on their clothes. Reading these threads proves that there is only few who really understand what they are talking about, and all others are just like apes, they are screaming just because other apes do so.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Ropo on December 01, 2016, 12:19:11 PM
There are no recorded accounts of flooding in coastal Europe, during the Medieval Warm Period either. Because higher temperatures, don't cause massive flooding. That would require frozen water in the amounts that existed during the last ice age, that didn't exist in the Medieval Warm Period, and doesn't exist now either.

So all the satellite photos which proves that the glaciers are melting are fake? There is tons of undeniably evidence that the glaciers are melting faster than ever, so where all that water goes?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 01, 2016, 12:27:33 PM
Ropo: It's a tiny amount of water, compared to the amount that was locked up in the polar ice cap during the Ice Age. You do realize that the Ice Age polar cap was orders of magnitude larger than the polar ice and glaciers that exist today, don't you? There is not enough ice that can melt now that would cause the kind of flooding you are babbling about. The glaciers and polar ice melted during the Medieval Warm Period, only one thousand years ago, when it was hotter than now, and there was no flooding. And it's not going to flood now either. How many ways can I explain to you?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 01, 2016, 01:02:10 PM
El Diablo Blanco's post just reinforces a point I have made several times in previous threads, that is, the global warming alarmists, who are for the most part of the socialist progressive left,  always seem to engage in ridicule, name calling and often character assassination as a means of refuting those with a different point of view.  They never seem to offer hard evidence given by reputable scientists as a way to bolster their viewpoint.  I think this is because their side has been proven wrong over and over again and they can't come up with a respectable scientific theory based on empirical evidence.

There's no point arguing with mentally challenged people like Coach.  For every true fact I can find and post he can search google for made up counterpoints and post his "facts" here.  The internet has enabled everyone to be an expert about nothing.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 01, 2016, 01:18:15 PM
There's no point arguing with mentally challenged people like Coach.  For every true fact I can find and post he can search google for made up counterpoints and post his "facts" here.  The internet has enabled everyone to be an expert about nothing.

Don't recall you posting any "true facts."
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2016, 01:19:42 PM
There's no point arguing with mentally challenged people like Coach.  For every true fact I can find and post he can search google for made up counterpoints and post his "facts" here.  The internet has enabled everyone to be an expert about nothing.

So you post facts and I post made up articles. Glad everyone has this Global Warming phenomenon figured out..lol.

We need $1billion for another 20 years of "research" but don't worry. We'll be back in five years because we didn't realize how fast we're all going to die if we don't get another $750mil to research cow farts., it's a matter of life or death...lol
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Necrosis on December 01, 2016, 03:54:07 PM
So you post facts and I post made up articles. Glad everyone has this Global Warming phenomenon figured out..lol.

We need $1billion for another 20 years of "research" but don't worry. We'll be back in five years because we didn't realize how fast we're all going to die if we don't get another $750mil to research cow farts., it's a matter of life or death...lol

I understand how cows and their farts seem silly, but Joe, they are a significant source of C02, we have bred more and more cows for milk, beef etc. They do also release Methane in significant amounts.

You seem to think that the liberal media is science, science is simply facts, your interpretation of the facts could differ from others,  but you can't get by without facts, lies are always exposed.

I realize you think everything but what you believe is a lie, I mean the liberal media were so wrong right? How about the Romney landslide that was predicted, it's the same shit in a different direction. You are putting trust in opinions, people lie, not just the left or right, facts don't.

We are fucking up the planet and your kids kids will pay for it. People of your ilk are ignoring facts in favor of opinion, allowing bias to guide you, your mind is made up.

In school you learn to think critically, does what your saying make sense?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 01, 2016, 04:33:33 PM
All supporters of Global Warming fart and give off CO2. I can safely predict, that when all of the supporters of Global Warming, stop farting and giving off CO2, belief in Global Warming will cease to exist.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on December 01, 2016, 04:37:30 PM
All supporters of Global Warming fart and give off CO2. I can safely predict, that when all of the supporters of Global Warming, stop farting and giving off CO2, belief in Global Warming will cease to exist.

That's the same kind of intelligent reasoning that is used to say that Fidel Castro is now a good communist.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Necrosis on December 01, 2016, 04:48:03 PM
All supporters of Global Warming fart and give off CO2. I can safely predict, that when all of the supporters of Global Warming, stop farting and giving off CO2, belief in Global Warming will cease to exist.

Methane release is not close to cows, apples to oranges.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 01, 2016, 04:51:41 PM
Methane release is not close to cows, apples to oranges.

WOW! That went right over your head!
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Ronnie Rep on December 01, 2016, 04:54:56 PM
Funny you used religion in your statement.  The republicans believe without a shadow of a doubt about the myth of Jesus and God without an ounce of proof and just blind faith yet for something like climate change that has tangible facts you can see and feel they call it a myth.  Go figure.
Bingo.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 01, 2016, 04:59:01 PM
Bingo.

I'm Republican, and an Atheist. I believe in science, not the pseudo-science of Climate Change.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Howard on December 02, 2016, 05:52:28 AM
Whatever might or might not be going on isn't going to affect us or our kids, their kids, their kids kids and so on for the few hundred years. This alarmist mentality that's going on is a money grab plain and simple.

Coach, wtf? I know it's not a literal doomsday , but c'mon this will have a drastic effect on our overall climate, weather and economics, etc.
You replies don't even address the scientific proof I've laid out step by step. I can't make it more simple or obvious.

Every time you post some reply, I do read it. BUT, you never address or debate the implications of my data ?

It's like I post the wt lifted and reps of a lifter before and then after a "cycle"
You reply with some unrelated points , like he didn't lift in California? WTF?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Howard on December 02, 2016, 05:57:06 AM
Not true. The Medieval Warm Period was only a thousand years ago, and was much warmer than today. What caused that? Industrial pollution?

Today CO2 in the Earth Atmosphere in only 400 PPM. It's ridiculous to think that such a tiny amount of CO2 is causing the Earth to get hotter.

Pay attention please  ;)

WE're not talking about mere temperature per era. That's a concrete form of thinking, sorry.
My proof showed a clear relationship between man made CO2 and temp increase at the poles in the past 120 years.
It's called a relationship between two variables.

I know this is get big, but c'mon.
I feel like I posted something about lifting heavy vs muscle growth and the replies are about posing was better before 2000. WTF?
In other words, the replies have NOTHING to do with the variables examined in this issue.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on December 02, 2016, 06:10:54 AM
No he didn't.

Here's the actual proof:

You can obtain the seasonal temperatures back 10,000 years from taking ice core samples at the poles.
The % of dissolved oxygen isotopes correlate with the atmospheric temperatures.
There is a pretty consistent seasonal swing for 99% ( 9900 years) of temp and normal climatic variation.
Please note, that the levels of dissolved CO2 stayed steady during this 9900 period.
This is significant, because we don't see a significant rise in CO2 until the industrial age at just over 100 years ago.

BUT, over the last 120 years, the amount of CO2 gas has greatly increased.
Since CO2 ( carbon dioxide) amounts are only  fraction of a %, any change is significant.
Simply plot a graph with CO2 levels vs polar temp and it's obvious.
The linear regression line fits damn near perfectly with the data.

This is objective proof of a causal relationship within the physical sciences.






Howard, please cite the source of your data.  It has been established beyond any doubt that much of the data put forth by the IPCC, NASA and NOAA has been fudged, altered, "adjusted".  Which data sets are you looking at?  The original unaltered data or the phony altered data?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Necrosis on December 02, 2016, 06:38:36 AM
Venus is hotter than Mercury, because Mercury doesn't have an atmosphere to trap the Sun's heat.

The tiny amount of CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere isn't causing the surface temperature of the Earth to increase.

"causing rapid shifts on a geological time scale" Where? You keep ignoring the much hotter Medieval Warm Period, just a thousand years ago.




Wait you argued that proximity was the deciding factor, now it's atmosphere, you are getting closer to the truth, keep going and you may be caught up on actual facts and global warming.

Tiny amounts relative to what? it's like saying a bullet 1mm from the center of your face isn't a big change, it depends, does it miss your face or hit? your small amount argument would bury physics as well, quantum gravity is so small we just barely detected it from a massive supernova, because values are small does not mean the impact is small.

There is no doubt we are causing rapid shifts, the absolute temp is not the issue, it's the speed in which it's changing. Ecosystems can't alter fast enough to keep up, we are accelerating the warming at a speed unseen, if you believe in accurate records (you are referencing the medieval warm period, so it appears you do) than this is unprecedented. The earth has also been much colder, but again it's the rate of change.

The more ice that melts the larger the degree of desalination, put more fresh water in a salt water fish tank, see how well the fish do.

What is the point in denying this fact? it's corroborated by all of science, all countries.

Does it have to be obvious to your naked eye for it to be real? would you wait until a tumor is the size of your head and deny what the MRI says?

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Necrosis on December 02, 2016, 06:41:09 AM
WOW! That went right over your head!

Sure it did ::)

Why is venus hotter than mercury again? oh ya the atmosphere, that's pretty much the deathblow you just indicated the problem on earth (we are changing the atmosphere) without even realizing it because you have your mind made up, unfortunately when facts are not on your side you have to flip flop a lot.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Ronnie Rep on December 02, 2016, 07:01:07 AM
I'm Republican, and an Atheist. I believe in science, not the pseudo-science of Climate Change.
It's not a pseudo- science. It's science based on study, observation etc.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 02, 2016, 08:10:16 AM
It's not a pseudo- science. It's science based on study, observation etc.

No. It's pseudo-science because it is politically motivated twisting of science. Look up Lysenkoism, for socialist scientific method.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Howard on December 02, 2016, 08:22:42 AM
Howard, please cite the source of your data.  It has been established beyond any doubt that much of the data put forth by the IPCC, NASA and NOAA has been fudged, altered, "adjusted".  Which data sets are you looking at?  The original unaltered data or the phony altered data?

My data is a summary of the PROVEN and credible information taken over a few decades.

Coach and some others( like you) are correct, that to cause more panic and gain more funding some figures were exaggerated .

The basic , simple conclusion is this :

1. Humans began producing a lot of CO2 emissions starting with the industrial age , circa 1880- 90's.
2. There is a proven cause-effect relationship between increased CO2 levels and increased polar temps.
3. This will have a real effect on sea levels and overall global climate.

* To be fair, it's NOT doomsday by 2100 like some declare.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on December 02, 2016, 08:23:08 AM
Lysenkoism

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013/04/28/the-disgraceful-episode-of-lysenkoism-brings-us-global-warming-theory/#62580a9a41e4
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on December 02, 2016, 08:24:43 AM
My data is a summary of the PROVEN and credible information taken over a few decades.

Coach and some others( like you) are correct, that to cause more panic and gain more funding some figures were exaggerated .

The basic , simple conclusion is this :

1. Humans began producing a lot of CO2 emissions starting with the industrial age , circa 1880- 90's.
2. There is a proven cause-effect relationship between increased CO2 levels and increased polar temps.
3. This will have a real effect on sea levels and overall global climate.

* To be fair, it's NOT doomsday by 2100 like some declare.

You still have not cited your sources.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 02, 2016, 08:33:47 AM
The Medieval Warm Period saw the Glaciers in Greenland, Scandinavia, and Europe melt rapidly, along with Arctic ice. There were no reported floods, nor rise in sea level. The Medieval Warm Period was hotter than it is now, or even will be a hundred years from, based on Climate Changer's predictions.

Yet, a few hundred years later, there was what is called the Little Ice Age. The glaciers and Arctic ice, grew back rapidly. The Vikings who had settled Greenland, and it was very much a green land back then, were pushed into the sea, by the rapidly advancing glaciers.

This is very recent history. The Earth's climate can and has continually changed throughout its existence. It will continue to do so.

Saying that the tiny increase in CO2 levels during the last 120 years, is caused by the industrial revolution, only works if you ignore the existence of other variables that could've caused it, as has happened in the past.

Picking and Choosing what "evidence" will be considered, for what is considered as causative, is exactly why Climate Change is pseudo-science.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 02, 2016, 09:00:39 AM
Coach, wtf? I know it's not a literal doomsday , but c'mon this will have a drastic effect on our overall climate, weather and economics, etc.
You replies don't even address the scientific proof I've laid out step by step. I can't make it more simple or obvious.

Every time you post some reply, I do read it. BUT, you never address or debate the implications of my data ?

It's like I post the wt lifted and reps of a lifter before and then after a "cycle"
You reply with some unrelated points , like he didn't lift in California? WTF?

Howard, lets use a little commonsense. Al Gore was the alarmist that said we were in fact the world was going to end in years based on "science". You think I and republicans in general dismiss science, again, there is science to back up both sides of this. Now lets get back to some commonsense. Lets face it, we're not going anywhere not is this lifetime or possibly the next five lifetimes, do I believe it will happen? If you take what is going on from a biblical sense, then yes, we're seeing but even then, I doubt anything will happen NOW. As far as the global warming....we're not in any danger and it's naive to think we are.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Necrosis on December 02, 2016, 09:35:59 AM
Howard, lets use a little commonsense. Al Gore was the alarmist that said we were in fact the world was going to end in years based on "science". You think I and republicans in general dismiss science, again, there is science to back up both sides of this. Now lets get back to some commonsense. Lets face it, we're not going anywhere not is this lifetime or possibly the next five lifetimes, do I believe it will happen? If you take what is going on from a biblical sense, then yes, we're seeing but even then, I doubt anything will happen NOW. As far as the global warming....we're not in any danger and it's naive to think we are.


LMAO biblical sense lololololol.

It's always end times, meanwhile science is driving vehicles on Mars with pinpoint precision, discovering water, planning to colonize Mars etc but the bible is right. How simple minded can one be? You can't use common sense in science, ever hear of quantum mechanics? it's how your cell phone works, meanwhile it's counter logical, it doesn't make "sense". You seem to think everything is politics.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Sizwe on December 02, 2016, 09:45:05 AM

Does your aspergers prevent you from being able to think 'outside the box'?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 02, 2016, 10:02:41 AM

LMAO biblical sense lololololol.

It's always end times, meanwhile science is driving vehicles on Mars with pinpoint precision, discovering water, planning to colonize Mars etc but the bible is right. How simple minded can one be? You can't use common sense in science, ever hear of quantum mechanics? it's how your cell phone works, meanwhile it's counter logical, it doesn't make "sense". You seem to think everything is politics.

Thanks for proving my point that I wrote yesterday.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Necrosis on December 02, 2016, 10:18:18 AM
The Medieval Warm Period saw the Glaciers in Greenland, Scandinavia, and Europe melt rapidly, along with Arctic ice. There were no reported floods, nor rise in sea level. The Medieval Warm Period was hotter than it is now, or even will be a hundred years from, based on Climate Changer's predictions.

Yet, a few hundred years later, there was what is called the Little Ice Age. The glaciers and Arctic ice, grew back rapidly. The Vikings who had settled Greenland, and it was very much a green land back then, were pushed into the sea, by the rapidly advancing glaciers.

This is very recent history. The Earth's climate can and has continually changed throughout its existence. It will continue to do so.

Saying that the tiny increase in CO2 levels during the last 120 years, is caused by the industrial revolution, only works if you ignore the existence of other variables that could've caused it, as has happened in the past.

Picking and Choosing what "evidence" will be considered, for what is considered as causative, is exactly why Climate Change is pseudo-science.

This is the point you are missing, we know the other variables, we have accounted for them, the only thing that explains the trend is CO2, what is so hard to understand?

You obviously haven't done any actual reading and get your information from the "news".

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Necrosis on December 02, 2016, 10:19:31 AM
Does your aspergers prevent you from being able to think 'outside the box'?

Lol I have no aspergers, LMAO.. you believe the shit I post on here? outside of the nutrition board?

But you remember my posts which is too funny to me, another victim.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Necrosis on December 02, 2016, 10:21:58 AM
Thanks for proving my point that I wrote yesterday.

What point? that you brought religion into science and expect not to be mocked?

That's why you are mocked, if someone came to your gym claiming that tonic water built more muscle than steroids you would laugh at them, this is equally as laughable but you simply aren't equipped think critically.

If you gave a valid argument you wouldn't be mocked, but the bible has talking snakes, jewish zombies etc.. meanwhile you use your computer and cellphone and ridicule science.

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on December 02, 2016, 10:35:56 AM



Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on December 02, 2016, 10:48:45 AM
This article presents an excellent explanation of the personality type that believes in global, errrrr,  I mean man made climate change.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/nature/logbooks-of-1901-expedition-confirm-there-is-no-global-warming/
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Sizwe on December 02, 2016, 10:57:00 AM
Lol I have no aspergers, LMAO.. you believe the shit I post on here? outside of the nutrition board?
But you remember my posts which is too funny to me, another victim.

So one should ignore and disregard what you say to avoid being one of your 'victims'? mmkay..
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Necrosis on December 02, 2016, 11:21:29 AM
So one should ignore and disregard what you say to avoid being one of your 'victims'? mmkay..

Yes. If you have under 200 posts and are quoting specific shit I said to someone you have been hurt in someway by me. What other conclusion is there?

You remember shit I said and need to hop on a gimmick account to try and insult me LMAO. Probably Erik C since he has taken a beating recently. This is trolling, I am in your head, I own real estate right next to your medulla oblongata.

You should use some critical thinking skills is all.




Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Sizwe on December 02, 2016, 11:34:28 AM
Yes.

Thanks for your candid answer.

If you have under 200 posts and are quoting specific shit I said to someone you have been hurt in someway by me. What other conclusion is there?
That I simply read and remembered your post.

You remember shit I said and need to hop on a gimmick account to try and insult me LMAO.
My intention wasn't to insult, I was under the impression you have aspergers and would take the question at face value.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 02, 2016, 11:38:17 AM
What point? that you brought religion into science and expect not to be mocked?

That's why you are mocked, if someone came to your gym claiming that tonic water built more muscle than steroids you would laugh at them, this is equally as laughable but you simply aren't equipped think critically.

If you gave a valid argument you wouldn't be mocked, but the bible has talking snakes, jewish zombies etc.. meanwhile you use your computer and cellphone and ridicule science.



No, I didn't bring "religion" into it. What I described was not "religion". But just for the record, are you saying that apologetics isn't science based?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 02, 2016, 12:58:03 PM
This is the point you are missing, we know the other variables, we have accounted for them, the only thing that explains the trend is CO2, what is so hard to understand?
You obviously haven't done any actual reading and get your information from the "news".

Did they look at Krakatoa eruption of 1883, and Mt. Pinatuba eruption in 1991? Each of those events, put more gases in to the atmosphere, than the whole industrial revolution put together.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Necrosis on December 02, 2016, 01:53:24 PM

Thanks for your candid answer.
That I simply read and remembered your post.
My intention wasn't to insult, I was under the impression you have aspergers and would take the question at face value.


Fair enough, I do not.


I remember the conversation with you specifically as well.

Did they look at Krakatoa eruption of 1883, and Mt. Pinatuba eruption in 1991? Each of those events, put more gases in to the atmosphere, than the whole industrial revolution put together.


I have seen you repeat this before, those eruptions did not emit nearly as much greenhouse gases, this is a myth and it's not close. You have said this to me specifically before, yet you persist.

Like it;s not even close

http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/archive/2007/07_02_15.html

a few hundred million tonnes of CO2 from volcanoes vs multiple billions from cars, not to mention plants. In fact the ash may cause cooling as it reflects heat in the upper atmosphere, there is a whole branch of science dedicated to volcanic study.

It's a significant source but we dwarf all the volcanoes on earth put together.

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 02, 2016, 02:37:27 PM
Quote from: Necrosis link=topic=622843.msg8656195#msg8656195 date=1480715604
http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/archive/2007/07_02_15.html
[/quote

I never posted anything to you or anyone else on Getbig, about volcanoes.

You should read articles, before you post them:

(There is now agreement at the top government level of the Earth's most prolific fossil fuel CO2 producer-the United States-that we need to reduce our dependence on oil in order to confront the challenge of global warming. As we work toward that goal, let's look forward to the day when volcanologists will give a different answer to the question "Which produces more CO2, volcanic or human activity?")

The Intergoverment Panel on Climate Change says that cars cause more CO2 in the atmosphere, than volcanoes do, however the volcanologists don't agree. Good for the volcanologists. They know volcanoes better than government hacks do.

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: mass243 on December 02, 2016, 02:41:27 PM

 ;D
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f3/7d/1f/f37d1f1b487c490b63c9c2e79f27b764.jpg)

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Ropo on December 03, 2016, 01:14:45 AM
Ropo: It's a tiny amount of water, compared to the amount that was locked up in the polar ice cap during the Ice Age. You do realize that the Ice Age polar cap was orders of magnitude larger than the polar ice and glaciers that exist today, don't you? There is not enough ice that can melt now that would cause the kind of flooding you are babbling about. The glaciers and polar ice melted during the Medieval Warm Period, only one thousand years ago, when it was hotter than now, and there was no flooding. And it's not going to flood now either. How many ways can I explain to you?

And again, at those days there were next to nothing build in the coastlines of the oceans, while now days there is. It is just stupidity use that kind of arguments, while population of the world was a fraction compared to present time. For example, do you have a maps which you can use to compare where the coastlines were at that time? No, you don't. How you can say it didn't effect, while you don't have any reliably records about the things which happen? Truth is that water levels were globally higher at that time because of the melting ice, but because there weren't any major cities build at the coastline 1000 years before the "flood" with high risers etc. rising sea level have small or none effect to the people living there. They just move higher grounds. And where all that water comes for those glaciers of the ice age? Is the amount of water changed during these years? No. There is still same amount of water on this earth than there were 100000 years ago, but sea levels are regulated by the amount of polar ice. Les ice = higher sea levels and another way around.

And what exactly was the medieval global warming? Sea water temperature were approximately 1°C higher. We have past those climate temperatures at 90ties and it is still rising.  And how about this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1162395/Google-Earth-reveals-fish-trap-rocks-1-000-years-ago-British-coast.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1162395/Google-Earth-reveals-fish-trap-rocks-1-000-years-ago-British-coast.html)

Fish trap build 1000 year ago at the sea level in British coast, is now 12 ft under the sea level? Oh gee, why in  the name of fuck they have build it so deep? Well, they didn't.. ;D
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 03, 2016, 04:30:15 AM
Fish trap build 1000 year ago at the sea level in British coast, is now 12 ft under the sea level? Oh gee, why in  the name of fuck they have build it so deep? Well, they didn't.. ;D

Another idiot who posts articles that he never read. Quote:

"Now, however, it is submerged even at low tide and fish are no longer trapped as the water recedes. Researchers believe it has sunk into the sand over the centuries."

So the sea levels didn't rise, the stones sunk into the sand! Mystery solved!

And, for the final time, there are no records of any European cities being flooded by massive amounts water in the Medieval Warm Period. it was only 1000 years ago. We have written records from that time. People took note of such things. So we can safely assume that if there was no increase in sea level in the Eastern Atlantic Ocean, then there was no increase in the sea level in Western Atlantic Ocean either, as it's the same body of water!

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Viking11 on December 03, 2016, 05:19:09 AM
Climate change didnt start with Al Gore. That assertion is absurd. I did a cursory search, and one of the 3 scholarly articles is from 1993. Hence the research was conducted prior- as in before he was even vice president. I wonder why this gets so politicized. IF humans are partly responsible, they can't help what was done, IS it because of Big Oil? Why the political resistance?  If research begiing to show climate change comes from the earth itself and man has no signficant impact, would the resistance dissapear?


References

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMra1109341#t=article
http://jmi.sagepub.com/content/early/2008/04/24/1056492607311930.short
https://asu.pure.elsevier.com/en/publications/global-climate-change-and-optimal-forest-management
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 03, 2016, 03:18:29 PM
Climate change didnt start with Al Gore. That assertion is absurd. I did a cursory search, and one of the 3 scholarly articles is from 1993. Hence the research was conducted prior- as in before he was even vice president.

Al Gore was Vice-President in 1993.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2016, 04:43:17 PM
http://www.wsj.com/articles/my-unhappy-life-as-a-climate-heretic-1480723518
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Viking11 on December 03, 2016, 05:22:45 PM
Al Gore was Vice-President in 1993.
As of January 20, 2003 correct!  Now the research was conducted PRIOR to 1993... why is this hard??
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Viking11 on December 03, 2016, 05:28:58 PM
1990.... http://www.osti.gov/scitech/biblio/6819363 
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Viking11 on December 03, 2016, 05:33:12 PM
BTW if it matters, I voted for Trump because I think his ideas will help the economy. but I won't abandon reason and science.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Ropo on December 04, 2016, 02:40:56 AM
Another idiot who posts articles that he never read. Quote:

"Now, however, it is submerged even at low tide and fish are no longer trapped as the water recedes. Researchers believe it has sunk into the sand over the centuries."

So the sea levels didn't rise, the stones sunk into the sand! Mystery solved!

And, for the final time, there are no records of any European cities being flooded by massive amounts water in the Medieval Warm Period. it was only 1000 years ago. We have written records from that time. People took note of such things. So we can safely assume that if there was no increase in sea level in the Eastern Atlantic Ocean, then there was no increase in the sea level in Western Atlantic Ocean either, as it's the same body of water!



How exactly stones sunk in the sand? Waves move the sand and sand cover the stones during the centuries. Or are you saying that your ancestors were so fucking stupid that they build this massive trap on the soft muddy bottom? Low tide, and the trap is 12 ft deep in the water?  So there were 12 ft high piles of stones? On the other hand they had to be quite stupid, because intelligence is a heritable trait, and after 1000 years and all the generations you are still such an idiot.

So you are saying that there isn't any records about the floods? Show me the 1000 years old record which proves that there wasn't any floods? And then the reality: https://weather.com/safety/floods/news/1-in-1000-year-flood-events (https://weather.com/safety/floods/news/1-in-1000-year-flood-events)
What is the meaning of the sentence "1 - in the 1000 year flood"? What was there 1000 years ago? How about these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_floods (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_floods)
https://sites.google.com/site/medievalwarmperiod/ (https://sites.google.com/site/medievalwarmperiod/)


If you read only the foil hats information about the matter, you never see the truth  ;D
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 04, 2016, 09:04:32 AM
How exactly stones sunk in the sand? Waves move the sand and sand cover the stones during the centuries. Or are you saying that your ancestors were so fucking stupid that they build this massive trap on the soft muddy bottom? Low tide, and the trap is 12 ft deep in the water?  So there were 12 ft high piles of stones? On the other hand they had to be quite stupid, because intelligence is a heritable trait, and after 1000 years and all the generations you are still such an idiot.

So you are saying that there isn't any records about the floods? Show me the 1000 years old record which proves that there wasn't any floods? And then the reality: https://weather.com/safety/floods/news/1-in-1000-year-flood-events (https://weather.com/safety/floods/news/1-in-1000-year-flood-events)
What is the meaning of the sentence "1 - in the 1000 year flood"? What was there 1000 years ago? How about these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_floods (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_floods)
https://sites.google.com/site/medievalwarmperiod/ (https://sites.google.com/site/medievalwarmperiod/)


If you read only the foil hats information about the matter, you never see the truth  ;D

You said that there were floods that permanently engulfed coastal areas because the Arctic Ice Caps and Glaciers melted during the Medieval Warm Period, causing a permanent increase in sea level, because of Global Warming. It didn't happen.

No point going over the fish trap, as anyone can see that you haven't a clue about anything that you link to because you either don't read it first, or you have zero reading comprehension. So you are either too stupid to be walking around loose, without an attendant, or, more likely, you're a troll, just wasting everyone's time, especially mine.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Simple Simon on December 04, 2016, 10:22:31 AM
our garden was always water logged, we raised it a foot with hardcore and new topsoil and turf, its OK now.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Necrosis on December 04, 2016, 11:37:59 AM
[quote author=Necrosis link=topic=622843.msg8656195#msg8656195 date=1480715604
http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/archive/2007/07_02_15.html


I never posted anything to you or anyone else on Getbig, about volcanoes.

You should read articles, before you post them:

(There is now agreement at the top government level of the Earth's most prolific fossil fuel CO2 producer-the United States-that we need to reduce our dependence on oil in order to confront the challenge of global warming. As we work toward that goal, let's look forward to the day when volcanologists will give a different answer to the question "Which produces more CO2, volcanic or human activity?")

The Intergoverment Panel on Climate Change says that cars cause more CO2 in the atmosphere, than volcanoes do, however the volcanologists don't agree. Good for the volcanologists. They know volcanoes better than government hacks do.



The two sentences don't even make sense, in the first they are insinuating that volcanologists would answer human activity as they are looking forward to the day when they could say volcanoes produce more co2, read the previous sentence, how obvious is that?

What do you think the panel is made up of? intergoverment, not intra.

Volcanologists agree you are wrong, no where in the article does the last sentence exist, no where in the article does it suggest volcanologists agree with you, they patently don't.

You are either lying or have very poor reading comprehension.

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Erik C on December 04, 2016, 11:44:58 AM

 no where in the article does the last sentence exist
You are either lying or have very poor reading comprehension.

Dragged and dropped that paragraph directly from the article YOU posted. That last sentence is there.

So who is lying or has very poor reading comprehension?
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: illuminati on December 04, 2016, 02:39:05 PM
How exactly stones sunk in the sand? Waves move the sand and sand cover the stones during the centuries. Or are you saying that your ancestors were so fucking stupid that they build this massive trap on the soft muddy bottom? Low tide, and the trap is 12 ft deep in the water?  So there were 12 ft high piles of stones? On the other hand they had to be quite stupid, because intelligence is a heritable trait, and after 1000 years and all the generations you are still such an idiot.

So you are saying that there isn't any records about the floods? Show me the 1000 years old record which proves that there wasn't any floods? And then the reality: https://weather.com/safety/floods/news/1-in-1000-year-flood-events (https://weather.com/safety/floods/news/1-in-1000-year-flood-events)
What is the meaning of the sentence "1 - in the 1000 year flood"? What was there 1000 years ago? How about these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_floods (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_floods)
https://sites.google.com/site/medievalwarmperiod/ (https://sites.google.com/site/medievalwarmperiod/)


If you read only the foil hats information about the matter, you never see the truth  ;D








Ahha - Look Twato is Here.
Being Abusive & With his Foil hat nonsense
Here I Will Re-Post This For You.

1, Go educate yourself - Take some of your own advice
2, Open your Mind - Be questioning
3, You are Finnish - Ha, That explains plenty another Pussified Scandinavian
4, I am Correct In Saying Finland allied it's Self With Germany in WW2
5, Yet Another Country The Uk / USA saved
6, Learn to Keep a Civil Tongue
7, Your Foul Language / Name / Calling Expose you as a No Nothing Pussy Trying to
Be Intimidating & Tough  Roll Eyes
8, You are Ropo an Expert in your own Tiny Little Mind - Good For You - Enjoy
9, The Rest Of Us Can Laugh At You
10, The Village Needs Its Idiot Back --- Please Return.

Good Day To You.



Ha ha -- Throw crap at You --ha ha

You do a very good job of doing that to yourself.

You are the one who always starts off deeming & calling people names
only You cant handle it / dont like when it is returned to you.

You Finnish Pussy -- Fucking shame we bothered saving your lots skins
fuck off Back to Germany You Nazi lover.

You really are a complete and utter waste of time & space.
Get back to your Village --- Idiot.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Necrosis on December 05, 2016, 06:04:00 AM
Dragged and dropped that paragraph directly from the article YOU posted. That last sentence is there.

So who is lying or has very poor reading comprehension?

Which sentence? that volcanologists don't agree? that is written nowhere.

The first sentence indicates they agree with CO2 being the major source, it's measured, it's not even close. A billion is more than a million for reference.

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Yamcha on December 05, 2016, 09:04:00 AM
 :D :D :D


Quote
WOAH. Trump transition team announces Ivanka Trump is meeting w/ Al Gore this morning to discuss climate issues

https://twitter.com/gabriellahope_/status/805799075346051072 (https://twitter.com/gabriellahope_/status/805799075346051072)
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Howard on December 06, 2016, 05:07:47 AM
Thanks for proving my point that I wrote yesterday.

 I haven't been in grad school  doing tedious research for many years.
Call me lazy or whatever but I'm not going to hunt down references for an internet debate.

I made my post,  think what you will.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Howard on December 06, 2016, 05:22:22 AM
Howard, lets use a little commonsense. Al Gore was the alarmist that said we were in fact the world was going to end in years based on "science". You think I and republicans in general dismiss science, again, there is science to back up both sides of this. Now lets get back to some commonsense. Lets face it, we're not going anywhere not is this lifetime or possibly the next five lifetimes, do I believe it will happen? If you take what is going on from a biblical sense, then yes, we're seeing but even then, I doubt anything will happen NOW. As far as the global warming....we're not in any danger and it's naive to think we are.

Fair enough.

While I'm no climate expert, I do have a little knowledge of the physical sciences.
No, ( as I already posted), "global warming" from excess CO2 isn't doomsday for humanity by 2100.
BUT, there is a clear relationship between CO2 and climate change.

Obviously the earth has experienced various climate changes long before humans came along.
The man made CO2 simply accelerates certain changes and abnormal changes can occur.
Some of these more rapid changes will have a negative impact on our global climate.

I think we can agree on that basic reality and "common sense".*

* FYI, I don't think common sense among people in the physical sciences, is very common  :D
It's my observation that the majority of people have several common misconceptions when it comes to the laws of basic physics.
I'll give you one simple example:

On some state driving exams, they ask a stopping distance question.
1. If you need 50 ft to stop at 20 mph, how many ft will it take you to stop going 40 mph ?

" Common sense" says twice the speed = 2 x the stopping distance...WHICH IS WRONG!
When you double the speed you double the kinetic energy of the moving object.
KE = 1/2 mass ( V)2.

You square the velocity so 2x the speed = 4x the Kinetic energy and 4x the stopping distance!
You double the speed from 20 mph to 40 mph and you increase the stopping distance from 50 to 200 ft.

Thus, "common sense" is wrong again!
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 07, 2016, 07:22:28 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4006994/Polar-plunge-sweeping-country.html
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on December 07, 2016, 07:50:09 AM
Re: Howard

"BUT, there is a clear relationship between CO2 and climate change"

If by this you mean an increase in CO2 causes warming, why is it that all the evidence shows CO2 levels follow warming by several hundred years.

"The man made CO2 simply accelerates certain changes and abnormal changes can occur."

Once again,  since CO2 increase follows warming,  how can the CO2 accelerate these changes?

There are some scientists on the "denier" side that accept that CO2 "may" (they are not completely sure) cause some increase in warming, but most now believe that CO2 is not a cause of warming but rather is an effect of it.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 07, 2016, 08:57:25 AM
Fair enough.

While I'm no climate expert, I do have a little knowledge of the physical sciences.
No, ( as I already posted), "global warming" from excess CO2 isn't doomsday for humanity by 2100.
BUT, there is a clear relationship between CO2 and climate change.

Obviously the earth has experienced various climate changes long before humans came along.
The man made CO2 simply accelerates certain changes and abnormal changes can occur.
Some of these more rapid changes will have a negative impact on our global climate.

I think we can agree on that basic reality and "common sense".*

* FYI, I don't think common sense among people in the physical sciences, is very common  :D
It's my observation that the majority of people have several common misconceptions when it comes to the laws of basic physics.
I'll give you one simple example:

On some state driving exams, they ask a stopping distance question.
1. If you need 50 ft to stop at 20 mph, how many ft will it take you to stop going 40 mph ?

" Common sense" says twice the speed = 2 x the stopping distance...WHICH IS WRONG!
When you double the speed you double the kinetic energy of the moving object.
KE = 1/2 mass ( V)2.

You square the velocity so 2x the speed = 4x the Kinetic energy and 4x the stopping distance!
You double the speed from 20 mph to 40 mph and you increase the stopping distance from 50 to 200 ft.

Thus, "common sense" is wrong again!

Howard, you're probably right. But this isn't really the arguement. The aguement is the left-wing nut jobs with the alarmist mentality using scare tactics by trying to convince people that the world is going to end is we don't the non-problem, problem by asking for hundreds of millions of dollars to fix what probably is the inevitable that won't happen in thousands of more years. That's where the commonsense lies.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 08, 2016, 06:35:23 AM
Global warming is a hoax because it's cold outside today - Coach
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Kazan on December 08, 2016, 06:51:41 AM
Anyone ever notice there always has to be some impending disaster, that is going to wipe out humanity. From the end of WWII until 1989 it was the Commies and MAD. War on drugs, war on terror and the list goes on.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on December 08, 2016, 06:54:56 AM
Anyone ever notice there always has to be some impending disaster, that is going to wipe out humanity. From the end of WWII until 1989 it was the Commies and MAD. War on drugs, war on terror and the list goes on.

Yes, because the government always needs an enemy/impending disaster to justify more regulations, more controls on our freedoms,  more taxes.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 08, 2016, 07:19:18 AM
What are the odds that both Al Gore and Howard are right about an issue?

We're talking about Power Ball type probabilities, here.

That alone should convince anyone that this is bullshit.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 08, 2016, 07:22:19 AM
Anyone ever notice there always has to be some impending disaster, that is going to wipe out humanity. From the end of WWII until 1989 it was the Commies and MAD. War on drugs, war on terror and the list goes on.

It's a form of control.  if people are free and happy and not worrying about disaster they are harder to control.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: mass243 on December 08, 2016, 09:19:35 AM


You Finnish Pussy -- Fucking shame we bothered saving your lots skins
fuck off Back to Germany You Nazi lover.





USA had no role in saving Finland from nazi.

First we fought the USSR and kept them out.
When USSR took over Berlin and war was over, soviets demanded Finland to kick remaining nazi troops out so we started another war against the remaining nazis whom burned the Lapland while they were retreating.

Finland did it basically alone.

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: illuminati on December 08, 2016, 01:41:01 PM
 Yes of course you did.
Just as you alied yourselves with them.

Any way are you ropo under a different name.

Every one did so well without the Americans.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2016, 02:23:50 PM
Global warming is a hoax because it's cold outside today - Coach

No...its just a hoax and we'll leave it at that. Read my above post to Howard.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: markofan on December 08, 2016, 02:36:27 PM
Legally, and in a very real sense, Finland was not a party to WWII.  Stalin wanted a buffer zone between the Soviet Union and Germany and he demanded Finland relinquish the Karelian Isthmus.  Finland refused and on Nov. 30 1939 the Soviet Union invaded Finland with a force far greater than the Normandy invasion force.
Finland was able to hold off the Soviets for a considerable time while wrecking devastation on the Red Army.
Eventually superior number of Soviet forces were about to overrun the Finns and Finland sued for peace.  This is what is known as the Winter War.

Ultimately, Finland lost the territories but the rest of Finland remained a free constitutional republic (BTW,
the only country in Europe that remained a constitutional republic during the period of the war)

War resumed in June, 1941 when Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union.  Finland allied itself (informally, without treaty) with Germany in an effort to regain it's lost territory.  This is known as the Continuation War.  Hitler went to great lengths to keep Finland fighting with them against the Soviets.  As Germany was losing the war, and Finland was worn out,
the Finnish government concluded a surrender agreement with the Soviet Union.  As part of the agreement
Finland expelled the Germans from Finnish territory.

One of the greatest military leaders of the 20th century that almost no one outside of Finland has ever heard of, was Marshall Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim who saw Finland militarily thru this greatest threat to Finland's freedom.

On the civilian side, Risto Rytti, as President of Finland handled things on the political end.  Rytti was tried as a war criminal because of his cooperation with Germany (only at the insistence of Stalin) and spent time in prison and due to bad health was finally released.

Both men sacrificed greatly for their country and were true patriots.

The U.S., nor the allies came to the assistance of Finland in it's battles with the Soviet Union because we chose to be allies with Stalin.

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Ropo on December 11, 2016, 04:33:14 AM
You said that there were floods that permanently engulfed coastal areas because the Arctic Ice Caps and Glaciers melted during the Medieval Warm Period, causing a permanent increase in sea level, because of Global Warming. It didn't happen.

No point going over the fish trap, as anyone can see that you haven't a clue about anything that you link to because you either don't read it first, or you have zero reading comprehension. So you are either too stupid to be walking around loose, without an attendant, or, more likely, you're a troll, just wasting everyone's time, especially mine.

How exactly it is possible to waste time of the unemployed wanker? It is obvious that you are too dumb to have a job, so where you need so much time? For crawling in the foil hat crap?  So you are still saying that all the satellite photos are lies, all the computer modellings and calculations are fake, and the truth is in the words of the red neck morons who can hardly read and write? All scientist are involved in the conspiracy and their motive is what? Force uneducated morons of Russia, China and USA to stop polluting this planet where we all are living. And miraculously money driven morons of the USA try to prove their point using +1000 years old data which is based on exactly what? Scientific findings, but these scientist are honest, they never lie because of their sponsors  ;D
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Ropo on December 11, 2016, 04:53:19 AM







Ahha - Look Twato is Here.
Being Abusive & With his Foil hat nonsense
Here I Will Re-Post This For You.

1, Go educate yourself - Take some of your own advice
2, Open your Mind - Be questioning
3, You are Finnish - Ha, That explains plenty another Pussified Scandinavian
4, I am Correct In Saying Finland allied it's Self With Germany in WW2
5, Yet Another Country The Uk / USA saved
6, Learn to Keep a Civil Tongue
7, Your Foul Language / Name / Calling Expose you as a No Nothing Pussy Trying to
Be Intimidating & Tough  Roll Eyes
8, You are Ropo an Expert in your own Tiny Little Mind - Good For You - Enjoy
9, The Rest Of Us Can Laugh At You
10, The Village Needs Its Idiot Back --- Please Return.

Good Day To You.



Ha ha -- Throw crap at You --ha ha

You do a very good job of doing that to yourself.

You are the one who always starts off deeming & calling people names
only You cant handle it / dont like when it is returned to you.

You Finnish Pussy -- Fucking shame we bothered saving your lots skins
fuck off Back to Germany You Nazi lover.

You really are a complete and utter waste of time & space.
Get back to your Village --- Idiot.


After all that crap you have wrote as a true believer of foil hat crap but who has never been able to prove even one word, you tell me to educate myself? Why do you feel offended while I  merely have prove that the foil hat morons have lie to you? It isn't my fault that you are a moron and believe all that crap. For that you can blame your parent's if you happen to know who they are..

What comes to WW2 allies were bombing our cities, and that didn't help a lot. We killed more russians than americans ever have, and after that we have been living next to them without any fear, while americans has spend decades fearing communism and russians, who scare you silly fuckers shitless. Even now you see communism everywhere and because of that, your country is a shithole where is third worlds health care, and more fat than all other counties put together. Proud nation who can hardly read and write, people who are stupid enough to choose moron after moron to be their president. Way to go, fool..
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Ropo on December 11, 2016, 10:43:15 AM
a great video from the Heartland Institute.  I'm not sure the left wing, progressive, Al Gore hugging global warmists will have the attention span necessary to watch the whole thing,  but the rest of you will find it enlightening.



Another great video:



Young Turks:



Jimmy Dore:

Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: illuminati on December 11, 2016, 12:08:22 PM
After all that crap you have wrote as a true believer of foil hat crap but who has never been able to prove even one word, you tell me to educate myself? Why do you feel offended while I  merely have prove that the foil hat morons have lie to you? It isn't my fault that you are a moron and believe all that crap. For that you can blame your parent's if you happen to know who they are..

What comes to WW2 allies were bombing our cities, and that didn't help a lot. We killed more russians than americans ever have, and after that we have been living next to them without any fear, while americans has spend decades fearing communism and russians, who scare you silly fuckers shitless. Even now you see communism everywhere and because of that, your country is a shithole where is third worlds health care, and more fat than all other counties put together. Proud nation who can hardly read and write, people who are stupid enough to choose moron after moron to be their president. Way to go, fool..



That's your Best answer. -- Ha Ha Your A joke.
Absolutely Pathetic - Just like your spineless
Pussyfied peers & country.

Continue Being The Village Idiot.
You are so good at it.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Ropo on December 12, 2016, 05:02:01 AM


That's your Best answer. -- Ha Ha Your A joke.
Absolutely Pathetic - Just like your spineless
Pussyfied peers & country.

Continue Being The Village Idiot.
You are so good at it.


Well, at least I am good at something, while you are just an useless piece of shit  ;D
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: illuminati on December 12, 2016, 01:18:32 PM
Well, at least I am good at something, while you are just an useless piece of shit  ;D



That from a Finish Spineless coward / German lover.

Stay Good at it - Your Village Needs You.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Ropo on December 17, 2016, 01:42:35 AM


That from a Finish Spineless coward / German lover.

Stay Good at it - Your Village Needs You.

That's your Best answer. -- Ha Ha Your A joke.
Absolutely Pathetic - Just like your spineless
Pussyfied peers & country.
Title: Re: Man-caused global warming: greatest scam in history
Post by: Pray_4_War on December 17, 2016, 03:22:55 AM
Another great video:





Oh look, Abraham Lincoln rose from the dead and shaved his beard.

I watched this video and didn't find it very compelling.  Just him subtly mocking and dismissing people that don't agree with him.  He made no attempt to prove why he is right.