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Title: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 27, 2016, 10:20:50 AM
Not exactly a star-studded lineup. 

Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
BY NIALL STANAGE - 12/27/16

Democrats grappling with the shock of Hillary Clinton’s loss to Donald Trump are also beginning to turn their attention to 2020, and pondering who could defeat Trump as he vies for reelection.

Here are The Hill’s initial rankings of where the potential candidates stand.

1. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.)

How would the 2016 election have panned out had Warren challenged Clinton in the primary? That’s one of the great unknowables of Democratic politics. But now, there is little doubt that the Massachusetts senator is the leading contender for the 2020 nomination.

Warren, a former Harvard Law School professor, has been beloved by the left throughout her late-blooming political career, largely because of her no-punches-pulled attacks on banks and the financial industry. She got under Trump’s skin via Twitter during the 2016 campaign too.
The recent news that Warren will join the Senate Armed Services Committee in January has stoked speculation that she is looking to bolster her foreign policy and national security credentials in advance of a presidential run. Warren would be 71 by the time of the next election, but she is three years younger than Trump.

2. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)

Sanders came from semi-obscurity in the Senate to give Clinton a serious run for her money in the battle for the Democratic nomination this year.

He won 23 contests and amassed more than 13 million votes. He also fired the enthusiasm of young voters and progressives, two pillars of the Democratic base that Clinton struggled to charm.

The Vermonter’s focus on income inequality and his broader point that the system is rigged against working Americans resonated. Sanders’s main problem when it comes to a 2020 run could be his age. He will be 79 next Election Day. Still, Sanders might well be tempted to try one more time — especially if Warren stood aside.

3. Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.)

Booker raised eyebrows earlier this month when it emerged that he would join the Senate Foreign Relations Committee when the new Congress convenes. As with Warren and the Armed Services panel, his decision was interpreted as an effort to burnish his resume for a potential presidential run.

Booker is just 47, and he is one of only two African-Americans in the Senate for now. (That number will rise to three in January when California’s Kamala Harris will be sworn in.)

He is also one of the most media-savvy members in the upper chamber — a trait that has been apparent since the start of his career, when his first, failed bid to become mayor of Newark was captured in a sympathetic documentary, “Street Fight.” 

Booker is far from the most liberal member of the caucus. During the 2012 presidential campaign, he criticized an Obama campaign ad that hit Mitt Romney’s business record, insisting on NBC's "Meet the Press", “I’m not about to sit here and indict private equity.”

An optimistic view is that he could bridge the gap between the progressive and center-left strands of the party. Skeptics will question whether he is a little too corporate-friendly for the tastes of Democratic primary voters.

4. Sen. Amy Klobuchar (Minn.)

Klobuchar has already appeared on several shortlists of likely contenders for the nomination, and it’s not hard to see why.

The New Yorker called her, “popular, practical, appealing [and] progressive.” She is from a state where the currents of labor and progressivism run strong. But the no-nonsense, affable Klobuchar could also plausibly appeal to Rust Belt voters whom her party needs to win over.

One issue for Klobuchar right now is that she does not have a high profile outside of her native state and the Beltway. There is plenty of time to change that if she wants to run and win in 2020. But she could be eclipsed by higher-wattage candidates.

5. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y)

Gillibrand followed in Clinton’s footsteps when she replaced her as a New York senator in 2009. Could she do the same at the presidential level — but actually win the White House?

It’s certainly possible. Gillibrand’s profile has risen in tandem with her making the prevention of sexual assaults in the military a signature issue. Representing New York, she has easy access to the national media and to powerful Democratic fundraising networks.

But Gillibrand’s similarities with Clinton, superficial though they may be, could go against her. It’s just not clear Democrats would roll the dice again, as soon as 2020, on another prominent female nominee from New York.

Critics also charge that Gillibrand emphasized more centrist positions as a congresswoman from a somewhat conservative district than she does as a senator from a liberal state.

6. First lady Michelle Obama

If the first lady exhibited even a slight inclination to run, she would be ranked near the top of this list.

There is no figure in public life, with the possible exception of her husband, who has so strong a hold on liberal hearts and minds.

Obama has become more comfortable with her public role over the years. Her two major speeches during the 2016 campaign — one at the Democratic convention, another excoriating Trump for “hurtful, hateful language about women” — were among the most powerful delivered during the cycle.

The first lady insists that she won’t run, citing the effect such an effort would have on her two daughters among other factors. But Malia and Sasha Obama will be 22 and 19, respectively, by the time of the next election. When it comes to the first lady’s future plans, many Democrats still cling to the audacity of hope.

7. Gov. John Hickenlooper (Colo.)

Hickenlooper presides over a state that is considered a key battleground, even though it has become more solidly Democratic in recent years. Colorado has gone for the Democratic nominee in the past three presidential elections and Clinton won the state by five points.

Hickenlooper, who has a politically effective down-to-earth persona, could potentially boost the party’s appeal in the heartlands. He has enjoyed solid approval ratings during his time in office.

One problem? While his chances are talked up among Beltway pundits, he is almost unknown in the nation at large.

8. Sen. Chris Murphy (Conn.)

Murphy has come to the fore on the issue of gun control. He can speak with moral authority on the issue: In his state, a gunman killed 20 young children, as well as six adults, at Sandy Hook Elementary School in December 2012. President Obama has called that moment the worst day of his presidency.

Politically speaking, Murphy would need to display more policy breadth and heighten his national profile if he is to be a genuine contender. For the moment, he’s one to watch.

9. Vice President Joe Biden

The vice president could have definitively ruled himself out of the running, but hasn’t. He joked with reporters about the possibility earlier this month, and then sought to clarify by saying he had “no intention” of running.

Biden would clearly have loved to run in 2016, were it not for the fact that he was still grieving the loss of his son, Beau. Biden’s age is a real issue, however. He would be 77 by next Election Day. If he won, he would turn 78 before being inaugurated.

For all his political skills, his two previous runs for the presidency, in 1988 and 2008, ended in failure.

10. Gov. Andrew Cuomo (N.Y.)

On paper, Cuomo looks like a strong candidate. He is the governor of a huge, liberal state and hails from a well-established political family. Cuomo’s late father, Mario, served as governor of the Empire State for three terms.

No one doubts the younger Cuomo’s ambition, but whether he is the right fit for the times is a tougher question. In a party where the left is ascendant, he has positioned himself as a centrist foil to New York City’s liberal mayor, Bill de Blasio. It’s not clear what Cuomo’s power base would be for a primary fight.

11. Sen.-elect Kamala Harris (Calif.)

Harris is one of the bright spots for Democrats who are dismayed by their failure to retake the Senate. She will succeed the retiring Sen. Barbara Boxer in January.

Harris has been seen as a rising star in the party for some time, her fans including President Obama, who once praised her in imprudent terms.

Harris, a leading lawyer before shifting into politics, is the daughter of an Indian-American mother and a Jamaican-American father. It’s not clear she has any presidential ambitions and, if she ran in 2020, she would face criticism about her relative lack of political experience. But she would be as experienced as then-Sen. Obama was when he began his 2008 White House run.

12. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

Could she run again? It’s possible. Many people thought Clinton’s electoral ambitions had ended in 2008, with her devastating loss to Obama in the Democratic primary. That turned out not to be the case.

There is still a large, wealthy circle of Clinton loyalists, who would back any future run. But, even if she had the appetite for a 2020 bid, she would have enormous hurdles to overcome.

One of the biggest would be the question of how she lost the presidency to Donald Trump. Beyond the hardline Clintonistas, there aren’t many Democratic insiders who were wowed by her campaign. In a USA Today/Suffolk University poll released earlier this month, 62 percent of Democrats and independents said Clinton should not run again.

13. Former Gov. Deval Patrick (Mass.)

Patrick has considerable political skills and was once talked up as a potential inheritor of President Obama’s mantle. David Axelrod, one of the aides closest to Obama, worked with Patrick as well, and both Patrick and Obama adopted “Yes We Can!” as a campaign slogan.

But Patrick left office in 2015, and it’s just not clear whether he could — or would want to — come off the sidelines for 2020. He also joined Bain Capital, which is hardly the ideal launching pad for a quest to win over liberal activists.

14. Sen. Tim Kaine (Va.)

Kaine achieved a new national prominence when Clinton named him as her 2016 running mate. But his performance was a mixed bag.

The Virginia senator gave some energetic speeches on the campaign trail, defying his reputation for dullness. On the other hand, his showing in his sole debate with his counterpart, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, was uneven at best.

15. Oprah Winfrey

Trump proved how powerful a currency celebrity can be — and there may be no more trusted celebrity in America than Oprah. Having steered largely clear of partisan politics for most of her career, Winfrey became an enthusiastic backer of Obama when he looked a long shot to beat Hillary Clinton to the 2008 nomination.

Winfrey has said she “couldn’t breathe” after Trump won in November. She softened her stance later, but could she be tempted into a race to defeat the president-elect?

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/311436-top-15-democratic-presidential-candidates-in-2020


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: tonymctones on December 27, 2016, 04:41:10 PM
Kaine is the only person i think would be decent


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 28, 2016, 02:55:26 PM
Looks like another four years for Trump before he even started his first term..lol


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 28, 2016, 05:03:10 PM
What a pack of losers


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on December 28, 2016, 06:57:38 PM
Kaine is the only person i think would be decent

I cannot even agree with you here.  He's milktoast.  Another horrible Dem VP pick.  Up there with Leiberman.  Why in the holy
fuck didn't they give her someone brown?  Either a Latino or a brother.  Shitloads of Latino's in congress to pick from.  Deval Patrick
or Corey Booker would have been good choices as far as African Americans go. 

No, I don't expect you guys to like the idea but I truly believe a better VP could have impacted the outcome.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 28, 2016, 07:23:11 PM
I cannot even agree with you here.  He's milktoast.  Another horrible Dem VP pick.  Up there with Leiberman.  Why in the holy
fuck didn't they give her someone brown?  Either a Latino or a brother.  Shitloads of Latino's in congress to pick from.  Deval Patrick
or Corey Booker would have been good choices as far as African Americans go. 

No, I don't expect you guys to like the idea but I truly believe a better VP could have impacted the outcome.

It wouldn't have mattered.  People vote the top of the ticket.  That's what the numbers show.  A stellar VP pick does not save a crappy presidential nominee. 


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on December 28, 2016, 07:38:15 PM
I cannot even agree with you here.  He's milktoast.  Another horrible Dem VP pick.  Up there with Leiberman.  Why in the holy
fuck didn't they give her someone brown?  Either a Latino or a brother.  Shitloads of Latino's in congress to pick from.  Deval Patrick
or Corey Booker would have been good choices as far as African Americans go. 

No, I don't expect you guys to like the idea but I truly believe a better VP could have impacted the outcome.

Personally, I thought Kaine was picked because Virginia was thought to be a swing state that could have made the difference if Cankles had won a few more states.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on December 28, 2016, 07:55:16 PM
I am not a big Corey Booker fan, but put him on the ticket and the black, latino and young person turnout increases and favors Hillary.  Corey Booker has the ability
to connect with voters unlike Hillary and Kaine. 


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on December 28, 2016, 09:56:15 PM
You know it's bad when you have a fossil like Reid say it's like an old folks home...

Harry Reid Compares Dem 2020 Class to 'Old-Folks Home'

The class of favored Democratic candidates for 2020 looks like an "old-folks home," retiring Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told New York Magazine.

"It depends on who's running," Reid said after being asked if he would support a White House bid from Vice President Joe Biden. "It appears we're going to have an old-folks' home. We've got [Elizabeth] Warren, she'll be 71. Biden will be 78. Bernie [Sanders] will be 79."

Biden told CNN after a Senate session in early December he is "going to run in 2020" for president, but later clarified he is "not committing not to run."

"I'm not committing to anything," he said. "I learned a long time ago fate has a strange way of intervening."

In mid-December, a Public Policy Polling poll revealed:

57 percent of Democrats want a candidate under the age of 60.
77 percent want a candidate under 70.
8 percent want one in their 70's.
The same poll shows Biden leading in Democratic support, followed by Sanders, and then Warren.

"Biden and Sanders are the only folks we tested who are pretty universally well-known by Democratic voters," PPP wrote in their poll. "They are also pretty universally well-liked. Warren is the next best known, and the only other person we tested who is known to a majority of Democratic voters at this point is [Al] Franken."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Harry-Reid-Democrats-2020-Old-Folks-Home/2016/12/27/id/765757/


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 28, 2016, 11:27:35 PM
Not exactly a star-studded lineup.  

Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
BY NIALL STANAGE - 12/27/16

Democrats grappling with the shock of Hillary Clinton’s loss to Donald Trump are also beginning to turn their attention to 2020, and pondering who could defeat Trump as he vies for reelection.

Here are The Hill’s initial rankings of where the potential candidates stand.

1. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.)

How would the 2016 election have panned out had Warren challenged Clinton in the primary? That’s one of the great unknowables of Democratic politics. But now, there is little doubt that the Massachusetts senator is the leading contender for the 2020 nomination.

Warren, a former Harvard Law School professor, has been beloved by the left throughout her late-blooming political career, largely because of her no-punches-pulled attacks on banks and the financial industry. She got under Trump’s skin via Twitter during the 2016 campaign too.
The recent news that Warren will join the Senate Armed Services Committee in January has stoked speculation that she is looking to bolster her foreign policy and national security credentials in advance of a presidential run. Warren would be 71 by the time of the next election, but she is three years younger than Trump.

2. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)

Sanders came from semi-obscurity in the Senate to give Clinton a serious run for her money in the battle for the Democratic nomination this year.

He won 23 contests and amassed more than 13 million votes. He also fired the enthusiasm of young voters and progressives, two pillars of the Democratic base that Clinton struggled to charm.

The Vermonter’s focus on income inequality and his broader point that the system is rigged against working Americans resonated. Sanders’s main problem when it comes to a 2020 run could be his age. He will be 79 next Election Day. Still, Sanders might well be tempted to try one more time — especially if Warren stood aside.

3. Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.)

Booker raised eyebrows earlier this month when it emerged that he would join the Senate Foreign Relations Committee when the new Congress convenes. As with Warren and the Armed Services panel, his decision was interpreted as an effort to burnish his resume for a potential presidential run.

Booker is just 47, and he is one of only two African-Americans in the Senate for now. (That number will rise to three in January when California’s Kamala Harris will be sworn in.)

He is also one of the most media-savvy members in the upper chamber — a trait that has been apparent since the start of his career, when his first, failed bid to become mayor of Newark was captured in a sympathetic documentary, “Street Fight.”  

Booker is far from the most liberal member of the caucus. During the 2012 presidential campaign, he criticized an Obama campaign ad that hit Mitt Romney’s business record, insisting on NBC's "Meet the Press", “I’m not about to sit here and indict private equity.”

An optimistic view is that he could bridge the gap between the progressive and center-left strands of the party. Skeptics will question whether he is a little too corporate-friendly for the tastes of Democratic primary voters.

4. Sen. Amy Klobuchar (Minn.)

Klobuchar has already appeared on several shortlists of likely contenders for the nomination, and it’s not hard to see why.

The New Yorker called her, “popular, practical, appealing [and] progressive.” She is from a state where the currents of labor and progressivism run strong. But the no-nonsense, affable Klobuchar could also plausibly appeal to Rust Belt voters whom her party needs to win over.

One issue for Klobuchar right now is that she does not have a high profile outside of her native state and the Beltway. There is plenty of time to change that if she wants to run and win in 2020. But she could be eclipsed by higher-wattage candidates.

5. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y)

Gillibrand followed in Clinton’s footsteps when she replaced her as a New York senator in 2009. Could she do the same at the presidential level — but actually win the White House?

It’s certainly possible. Gillibrand’s profile has risen in tandem with her making the prevention of sexual assaults in the military a signature issue. Representing New York, she has easy access to the national media and to powerful Democratic fundraising networks.

But Gillibrand’s similarities with Clinton, superficial though they may be, could go against her. It’s just not clear Democrats would roll the dice again, as soon as 2020, on another prominent female nominee from New York.

Critics also charge that Gillibrand emphasized more centrist positions as a congresswoman from a somewhat conservative district than she does as a senator from a liberal state.

6. First lady Michelle Obama

If the first lady exhibited even a slight inclination to run, she would be ranked near the top of this list.

There is no figure in public life, with the possible exception of her husband, who has so strong a hold on liberal hearts and minds.

Obama has become more comfortable with her public role over the years. Her two major speeches during the 2016 campaign — one at the Democratic convention, another excoriating Trump for “hurtful, hateful language about women” — were among the most powerful delivered during the cycle.

The first lady insists that she won’t run, citing the effect such an effort would have on her two daughters among other factors. But Malia and Sasha Obama will be 22 and 19, respectively, by the time of the next election. When it comes to the first lady’s future plans, many Democrats still cling to the audacity of hope.

7. Gov. John Hickenlooper (Colo.)

Hickenlooper presides over a state that is considered a key battleground, even though it has become more solidly Democratic in recent years. Colorado has gone for the Democratic nominee in the past three presidential elections and Clinton won the state by five points.

Hickenlooper, who has a politically effective down-to-earth persona, could potentially boost the party’s appeal in the heartlands. He has enjoyed solid approval ratings during his time in office.

One problem? While his chances are talked up among Beltway pundits, he is almost unknown in the nation at large.

8. Sen. Chris Murphy (Conn.)

Murphy has come to the fore on the issue of gun control. He can speak with moral authority on the issue: In his state, a gunman killed 20 young children, as well as six adults, at Sandy Hook Elementary School in December 2012. President Obama has called that moment the worst day of his presidency.

Politically speaking, Murphy would need to display more policy breadth and heighten his national profile if he is to be a genuine contender. For the moment, he’s one to watch.

9. Vice President Joe Biden

The vice president could have definitively ruled himself out of the running, but hasn’t. He joked with reporters about the possibility earlier this month, and then sought to clarify by saying he had “no intention” of running.

Biden would clearly have loved to run in 2016, were it not for the fact that he was still grieving the loss of his son, Beau. Biden’s age is a real issue, however. He would be 77 by next Election Day. If he won, he would turn 78 before being inaugurated.

For all his political skills, his two previous runs for the presidency, in 1988 and 2008, ended in failure.

10. Gov. Andrew Cuomo (N.Y.)

On paper, Cuomo looks like a strong candidate. He is the governor of a huge, liberal state and hails from a well-established political family. Cuomo’s late father, Mario, served as governor of the Empire State for three terms.

No one doubts the younger Cuomo’s ambition, but whether he is the right fit for the times is a tougher question. In a party where the left is ascendant, he has positioned himself as a centrist foil to New York City’s liberal mayor, Bill de Blasio. It’s not clear what Cuomo’s power base would be for a primary fight.

11. Sen.-elect Kamala Harris (Calif.)

Harris is one of the bright spots for Democrats who are dismayed by their failure to retake the Senate. She will succeed the retiring Sen. Barbara Boxer in January.

Harris has been seen as a rising star in the party for some time, her fans including President Obama, who once praised her in imprudent terms.

Harris, a leading lawyer before shifting into politics, is the daughter of an Indian-American mother and a Jamaican-American father. It’s not clear she has any presidential ambitions and, if she ran in 2020, she would face criticism about her relative lack of political experience. But she would be as experienced as then-Sen. Obama was when he began his 2008 White House run.

12. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

Could she run again? It’s possible. Many people thought Clinton’s electoral ambitions had ended in 2008, with her devastating loss to Obama in the Democratic primary. That turned out not to be the case.

There is still a large, wealthy circle of Clinton loyalists, who would back any future run. But, even if she had the appetite for a 2020 bid, she would have enormous hurdles to overcome.

One of the biggest would be the question of how she lost the presidency to Donald Trump. Beyond the hardline Clintonistas, there aren’t many Democratic insiders who were wowed by her campaign. In a USA Today/Suffolk University poll released earlier this month, 62 percent of Democrats and independents said Clinton should not run again.

13. Former Gov. Deval Patrick (Mass.)

Patrick has considerable political skills and was once talked up as a potential inheritor of President Obama’s mantle. David Axelrod, one of the aides closest to Obama, worked with Patrick as well, and both Patrick and Obama adopted “Yes We Can!” as a campaign slogan.

But Patrick left office in 2015, and it’s just not clear whether he could — or would want to — come off the sidelines for 2020. He also joined Bain Capital, which is hardly the ideal launching pad for a quest to win over liberal activists.

14. Sen. Tim Kaine (Va.)

Kaine achieved a new national prominence when Clinton named him as her 2016 running mate. But his performance was a mixed bag.

The Virginia senator gave some energetic speeches on the campaign trail, defying his reputation for dullness. On the other hand, his showing in his sole debate with his counterpart, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, was uneven at best.

15. Oprah Winfrey

Trump proved how powerful a currency celebrity can be — and there may be no more trusted celebrity in America than Oprah. Having steered largely clear of partisan politics for most of her career, Winfrey became an enthusiastic backer of Obama when he looked a long shot to beat Hillary Clinton to the 2008 nomination.

Winfrey has said she “couldn’t breathe” after Trump won in November. She softened her stance later, but could she be tempted into a race to defeat the president-elect?

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/311436-top-15-democratic-presidential-candidates-in-2020

Some of the folks on this list are so unlikely to run much less win that it's downright hysterically funny. Michelle Obama, as best as I know, has no applicable qualifications. I honestly don't think having been the First Lady for 8 years is enough to qualify her for the office. Oprah being on this list blew me away. She's well liked and has a record for having done good deeds, like giving away Pontiac's shortly before they became extinct. She represents not only women but African Americans and by extension, other minorities. However having no other qualifications for the Presidency, I can't believe she could get elected. But then, I thought the same thing about Trump and I was obviously wrong. Experience and qualifications apparently don't mean that much to the voting public.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: tonymctones on December 29, 2016, 05:50:09 AM
I cannot even agree with you here.  He's milktoast.  Another horrible Dem VP pick.  Up there with Leiberman.  Why in the holy
fuck didn't they give her someone brown?  Either a Latino or a brother.  Shitloads of Latino's in congress to pick from.  Deval Patrick
or Corey Booker would have been good choices as far as African Americans go. 

No, I don't expect you guys to like the idea but I truly believe a better VP could have impacted the outcome.
More identity politics? That's why trump was so popular bc you've had years and years of identity politics. Given I don't know much about him but having seen the debate he seems more center and a person capable of talking about issues competently.



Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 29, 2016, 07:07:40 AM
Please let it be Elizabeth Warren. Please if there is a god. Please.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on December 29, 2016, 08:25:32 AM
Please let it be Elizabeth Warren. Please if there is a god. Please.

How fun would that be?!  :D


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on December 29, 2016, 12:48:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DezixLl-RY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnYxPdq6UsU


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 01, 2017, 04:50:21 PM
U.S. News: Kamala Harris ‘Inevitable’ 2020 Democratic Nominee
(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/02/Kamala-Harris-Associated-Press-640x480.jpg)
Kamala Harris (Jose Luis Magana / Associated Press)Jose Luis Magana / Associated Press
by JOEL B. POLLAK
1 Dec 2017

U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) is the “inevitable” Democratic Party nominee for President of the United States in 2020, according to U.S. News & World Report senior politics writer David Catanese, citing political oddsmakers.
The first-term junior Senator, Catanese writes, is the “female Obama”:

At a time when the Democratic Party remains adrift in the political wilderness, still painfully sorting out its last national election loss while simultaneously trying to turn the page anew, Harris has vaulted over a fleet of venerable talent to bear the torch of former President Barack Obama’s legacy for the next generation.

In his lengthy profile, Catenese also highlights one facet of Harris’s biography that is relevant to the current debate over sex and politics: she once dated then-California State Assembly Speaker Willie Brown, who gave her a car and also helped her gain a foothold in California politics. As the SF Weekly noted in 2003: “Harris acknowledges that she benefited from her relationship with Brown, but insists there was nothing improper about it.”

Since then, Harris has moved up through the ranks, fighting a tough election to become the state’s Attorney General, and facing somewhat easier contest for the U.S. Senate seat, when the state’s Bay Area liberal establishment and Barack Obama himself backed her campaign against the upstart, Southern California-based, Latino-focused effort of then- U.S. Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA).

Since arriving Washington, Harris has used her confrontations with Republicans — usually triggered by her refusal to let witnesses speak at committee hearings — to create viral YouTube videos that help drive fundraising. She is known to be tapping into Hillary Clinton’s donor network, has also become an big fundraiser for other candidates.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/12/01/u-s-news-kamala-harris-inevitable-2020-democratic-nominee/


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on December 02, 2017, 10:21:34 AM
U.S. News: Kamala Harris ‘Inevitable’ 2020 Democratic Nominee
(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/02/Kamala-Harris-Associated-Press-640x480.jpg)
Kamala Harris (Jose Luis Magana / Associated Press)Jose Luis Magana / Associated Press
by JOEL B. POLLAK
1 Dec 2017

U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) is the “inevitable” Democratic Party nominee for President of the United States in 2020, according to U.S. News & World Report senior politics writer David Catanese, citing political oddsmakers.
The first-term junior Senator, Catanese writes, is the “female Obama”:

At a time when the Democratic Party remains adrift in the political wilderness, still painfully sorting out its last national election loss while simultaneously trying to turn the page anew, Harris has vaulted over a fleet of venerable talent to bear the torch of former President Barack Obama’s legacy for the next generation.

In his lengthy profile, Catenese also highlights one facet of Harris’s biography that is relevant to the current debate over sex and politics: she once dated then-California State Assembly Speaker Willie Brown, who gave her a car and also helped her gain a foothold in California politics. As the SF Weekly noted in 2003: “Harris acknowledges that she benefited from her relationship with Brown, but insists there was nothing improper about it.”

Since then, Harris has moved up through the ranks, fighting a tough election to become the state’s Attorney General, and facing somewhat easier contest for the U.S. Senate seat, when the state’s Bay Area liberal establishment and Barack Obama himself backed her campaign against the upstart, Southern California-based, Latino-focused effort of then- U.S. Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA).

Since arriving Washington, Harris has used her confrontations with Republicans — usually triggered by her refusal to let witnesses speak at committee hearings — to create viral YouTube videos that help drive fundraising. She is known to be tapping into Hillary Clinton’s donor network, has also become an big fundraiser for other candidates.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/12/01/u-s-news-kamala-harris-inevitable-2020-democratic-nominee/

Probably has a stinky pussy.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: George Whorewell on December 02, 2017, 11:19:18 AM
6. First lady Michelle Obama

^ This


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on December 28, 2017, 06:00:59 PM
Probably has a stinky pussy.

And smokes Kool Milds.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on December 28, 2017, 06:13:27 PM
Are they so dumb that they are going to try to force a woman to run so they can show how "diverse" and "pc" they are?


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 28, 2017, 06:55:20 PM
Looks like another four years for Trump before he even started his first term..lol

Just saying


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 29, 2017, 12:57:31 AM
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I'd vote for this Kamala, not the impostor.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on December 29, 2017, 03:33:29 AM
Not exactly a star-studded lineup. 

Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
BY NIALL STANAGE - 12/27/16

Democrats grappling with the shock of Hillary Clinton’s loss to Donald Trump are also beginning to turn their attention to 2020, and pondering who could defeat Trump as he vies for reelection.

Here are The Hill’s initial rankings of where the potential candidates stand.

1. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.)

How would the 2016 election have panned out had Warren challenged Clinton in the primary? That’s one of the great unknowables of Democratic politics. But now, there is little doubt that the Massachusetts senator is the leading contender for the 2020 nomination.

Warren, a former Harvard Law School professor, has been beloved by the left throughout her late-blooming political career, largely because of her no-punches-pulled attacks on banks and the financial industry. She got under Trump’s skin via Twitter during the 2016 campaign too.
The recent news that Warren will join the Senate Armed Services Committee in January has stoked speculation that she is looking to bolster her foreign policy and national security credentials in advance of a presidential run. Warren would be 71 by the time of the next election, but she is three years younger than Trump.

2. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)

Sanders came from semi-obscurity in the Senate to give Clinton a serious run for her money in the battle for the Democratic nomination this year.

He won 23 contests and amassed more than 13 million votes. He also fired the enthusiasm of young voters and progressives, two pillars of the Democratic base that Clinton struggled to charm.

The Vermonter’s focus on income inequality and his broader point that the system is rigged against working Americans resonated. Sanders’s main problem when it comes to a 2020 run could be his age. He will be 79 next Election Day. Still, Sanders might well be tempted to try one more time — especially if Warren stood aside.

3. Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.)

Booker raised eyebrows earlier this month when it emerged that he would join the Senate Foreign Relations Committee when the new Congress convenes. As with Warren and the Armed Services panel, his decision was interpreted as an effort to burnish his resume for a potential presidential run.

Booker is just 47, and he is one of only two African-Americans in the Senate for now. (That number will rise to three in January when California’s Kamala Harris will be sworn in.)

He is also one of the most media-savvy members in the upper chamber — a trait that has been apparent since the start of his career, when his first, failed bid to become mayor of Newark was captured in a sympathetic documentary, “Street Fight.” 

Booker is far from the most liberal member of the caucus. During the 2012 presidential campaign, he criticized an Obama campaign ad that hit Mitt Romney’s business record, insisting on NBC's "Meet the Press", “I’m not about to sit here and indict private equity.”

An optimistic view is that he could bridge the gap between the progressive and center-left strands of the party. Skeptics will question whether he is a little too corporate-friendly for the tastes of Democratic primary voters.

4. Sen. Amy Klobuchar (Minn.)

Klobuchar has already appeared on several shortlists of likely contenders for the nomination, and it’s not hard to see why.

The New Yorker called her, “popular, practical, appealing [and] progressive.” She is from a state where the currents of labor and progressivism run strong. But the no-nonsense, affable Klobuchar could also plausibly appeal to Rust Belt voters whom her party needs to win over.

One issue for Klobuchar right now is that she does not have a high profile outside of her native state and the Beltway. There is plenty of time to change that if she wants to run and win in 2020. But she could be eclipsed by higher-wattage candidates.

5. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y)

Gillibrand followed in Clinton’s footsteps when she replaced her as a New York senator in 2009. Could she do the same at the presidential level — but actually win the White House?

It’s certainly possible. Gillibrand’s profile has risen in tandem with her making the prevention of sexual assaults in the military a signature issue. Representing New York, she has easy access to the national media and to powerful Democratic fundraising networks.

But Gillibrand’s similarities with Clinton, superficial though they may be, could go against her. It’s just not clear Democrats would roll the dice again, as soon as 2020, on another prominent female nominee from New York.

Critics also charge that Gillibrand emphasized more centrist positions as a congresswoman from a somewhat conservative district than she does as a senator from a liberal state.

6. First lady Michelle Obama

If the first lady exhibited even a slight inclination to run, she would be ranked near the top of this list.

There is no figure in public life, with the possible exception of her husband, who has so strong a hold on liberal hearts and minds.

Obama has become more comfortable with her public role over the years. Her two major speeches during the 2016 campaign — one at the Democratic convention, another excoriating Trump for “hurtful, hateful language about women” — were among the most powerful delivered during the cycle.

The first lady insists that she won’t run, citing the effect such an effort would have on her two daughters among other factors. But Malia and Sasha Obama will be 22 and 19, respectively, by the time of the next election. When it comes to the first lady’s future plans, many Democrats still cling to the audacity of hope.

7. Gov. John Hickenlooper (Colo.)

Hickenlooper presides over a state that is considered a key battleground, even though it has become more solidly Democratic in recent years. Colorado has gone for the Democratic nominee in the past three presidential elections and Clinton won the state by five points.

Hickenlooper, who has a politically effective down-to-earth persona, could potentially boost the party’s appeal in the heartlands. He has enjoyed solid approval ratings during his time in office.

One problem? While his chances are talked up among Beltway pundits, he is almost unknown in the nation at large.

8. Sen. Chris Murphy (Conn.)

Murphy has come to the fore on the issue of gun control. He can speak with moral authority on the issue: In his state, a gunman killed 20 young children, as well as six adults, at Sandy Hook Elementary School in December 2012. President Obama has called that moment the worst day of his presidency.

Politically speaking, Murphy would need to display more policy breadth and heighten his national profile if he is to be a genuine contender. For the moment, he’s one to watch.

9. Vice President Joe Biden

The vice president could have definitively ruled himself out of the running, but hasn’t. He joked with reporters about the possibility earlier this month, and then sought to clarify by saying he had “no intention” of running.

Biden would clearly have loved to run in 2016, were it not for the fact that he was still grieving the loss of his son, Beau. Biden’s age is a real issue, however. He would be 77 by next Election Day. If he won, he would turn 78 before being inaugurated.

For all his political skills, his two previous runs for the presidency, in 1988 and 2008, ended in failure.

10. Gov. Andrew Cuomo (N.Y.)

On paper, Cuomo looks like a strong candidate. He is the governor of a huge, liberal state and hails from a well-established political family. Cuomo’s late father, Mario, served as governor of the Empire State for three terms.

No one doubts the younger Cuomo’s ambition, but whether he is the right fit for the times is a tougher question. In a party where the left is ascendant, he has positioned himself as a centrist foil to New York City’s liberal mayor, Bill de Blasio. It’s not clear what Cuomo’s power base would be for a primary fight.

11. Sen.-elect Kamala Harris (Calif.)

Harris is one of the bright spots for Democrats who are dismayed by their failure to retake the Senate. She will succeed the retiring Sen. Barbara Boxer in January.

Harris has been seen as a rising star in the party for some time, her fans including President Obama, who once praised her in imprudent terms.

Harris, a leading lawyer before shifting into politics, is the daughter of an Indian-American mother and a Jamaican-American father. It’s not clear she has any presidential ambitions and, if she ran in 2020, she would face criticism about her relative lack of political experience. But she would be as experienced as then-Sen. Obama was when he began his 2008 White House run.

12. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

Could she run again? It’s possible. Many people thought Clinton’s electoral ambitions had ended in 2008, with her devastating loss to Obama in the Democratic primary. That turned out not to be the case.

There is still a large, wealthy circle of Clinton loyalists, who would back any future run. But, even if she had the appetite for a 2020 bid, she would have enormous hurdles to overcome.

One of the biggest would be the question of how she lost the presidency to Donald Trump. Beyond the hardline Clintonistas, there aren’t many Democratic insiders who were wowed by her campaign. In a USA Today/Suffolk University poll released earlier this month, 62 percent of Democrats and independents said Clinton should not run again.

13. Former Gov. Deval Patrick (Mass.)

Patrick has considerable political skills and was once talked up as a potential inheritor of President Obama’s mantle. David Axelrod, one of the aides closest to Obama, worked with Patrick as well, and both Patrick and Obama adopted “Yes We Can!” as a campaign slogan.

But Patrick left office in 2015, and it’s just not clear whether he could — or would want to — come off the sidelines for 2020. He also joined Bain Capital, which is hardly the ideal launching pad for a quest to win over liberal activists.

14. Sen. Tim Kaine (Va.)

Kaine achieved a new national prominence when Clinton named him as her 2016 running mate. But his performance was a mixed bag.

The Virginia senator gave some energetic speeches on the campaign trail, defying his reputation for dullness. On the other hand, his showing in his sole debate with his counterpart, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, was uneven at best.

15. Oprah Winfrey

Trump proved how powerful a currency celebrity can be — and there may be no more trusted celebrity in America than Oprah. Having steered largely clear of partisan politics for most of her career, Winfrey became an enthusiastic backer of Obama when he looked a long shot to beat Hillary Clinton to the 2008 nomination.

Winfrey has said she “couldn’t breathe” after Trump won in November. She softened her stance later, but could she be tempted into a race to defeat the president-elect?

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/311436-top-15-democratic-presidential-candidates-in-2020

Most of them white, rich, old people, from the party of the poor, young minorities. 


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 29, 2017, 04:58:53 AM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 29, 2017, 05:03:08 AM
Most of them white, rich, old people, from the party of the poor, young minorities. 

On the liberal sites like Huffington Post and Daily Kos they patronize blacks to a pathological extent. This is why.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 22, 2018, 03:58:55 PM
Kamala Harris Blasts Re-opening of Government After No Immigration Deal
by JOEL B. POLLAK
22 Jan 2018

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA), a rising potential presidential contender in 2020, voted against a bill to re-open the federal government on Monday, arguing that the budget should have done more to protect illegal aliens.
In a statement, the junior Senator from California and rising Democratic star said (via CNN congressional correspondent Phil Mattingly):

Our government made a promise to our Dreamers and it is long past time that we kept that promise. These are young people who are Americans in every respect except on paper. They have been waiting far too long to live securely in the only place they have ever called home

The Majority Leader’s comments last night fell far short of the ironclad guarantee I needed to support a stopgap spending bill. I refuse to put the lives of nearly 700,000 young people in the hands of someone who has repeatedly gone back on his word. I will do everything in my power to continue to protect Dreamers from deportation.

It is also time that we stop governing from crisis to crisis and ensure that priorities critical to Californians are funded for the future. I will continue to work with my colleagues to find a long-term solution that supports members of our military and national security priorities, funds children’s health insurance and community health centers, provides resources for those recovering from disasters like the California wildfires, and guarantees a future for young immigrants who are as American as all of us.

The bill to fund the government not only passed the 60-vote filibuster threshold, but also won 80 votes (to 18 against), as more than two dozen Democrats changed their votes.

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-NY) suffered an embarrassing capitulation after the government was closed for just two days, receiving nothing more from Republican leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) than a “commitment” to vote on legalizing the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program — which the majority had already committed to doing anyway.

The outcome was a rare setback for Democrats in shutdown situations, when they typically hold the other hand. Schumer has been goading Republicans to shut down the government ever since they regained control of the House in the 2010 elections, and apparently believed — before today — that deny such shutdown would benefit his party.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/01/22/kamala-harris-no-end-shutdown-dreamers-daca/


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 22, 2018, 04:07:14 PM
2020 Democratic Frontrunners Vote To Keep Government Shut Down
BENNY JOHNSON
Reporter At Large
01/22/2018

Eighty-one senators voted to reopen the federal government Monday afternoon, handing President Trump and the Republicans a big win. Democrats in the Senate let the government shut down the over Republicans not including permanent legalization for illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as minors in a spending bill.

The government shutdown withheld payment for armed service members and military families whose sons or daughters died in combat. The blame for the shutdown was swiftly turning on the Democrats, and their leaders agreed to a deal to open the government on Monday

However, eighteen senators voted to continue to keep the government closed. A large portion of that group has 2020 aspirations. Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren all voted to continue the shutdown. The odds-makers all list the above democrats as favorites to run in 2020.

The full list of senators who voted ‘No’ on the bill passage:

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After the vote to reopen, Trump said in a statement:

I am pleased that Democrats in Congress have come to their senses and are now willing to fund our great military, border patrol, first responders, and insurance for vulnerable children. As I have always said, once the Government is funded, my Administration will work toward solving the problem of very unfair illegal immigration. We will make a long-term deal on immigration if, and only if, it is good for our country.

Look for this vote to come up in 2020.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/22/2020-democratic-frontrunners-vote-to-keep-government-shut-down/


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: mazrim on January 22, 2018, 06:42:55 PM
Paul and Lee voting no as well? Must still be a high spending "budget"? They are usually levelheaded.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: mazrim on January 22, 2018, 06:52:01 PM
Yep, just read Paul's explanation. That guy sticks to what he believes that's for sure. Has a backbone.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 07, 2018, 03:49:40 PM
Biden bashes Trump as 'bully,' touts liberal credentials amid 2020 speculation
By Alex Pappas   | Fox News

Former Vice President Joe Biden on Wednesday described President Trump as the “neighborhood bully” while touting his own liberal credentials during a speech to Democratic lawmakers that appeared aimed at keeping his foot in the door for a potential 2020 run for president.

“Since when do we give hate safe harbor in America?” Biden said in a speech to Democrats at the Capitol. “Since when are we leaving so many people behind? Guys, this president is doing great damage.”

The former Democratic senator and vice president under former President Barack Obama accused Trump of pushing a “closed and clannish nationalism” and an “ugly and phony populism.” He also called out the president for his trademark derogatory nicknames to political critics.

“Don’t act like the neighborhood bully, talking down to ‘Little so and so’ or ‘Fat so and so,’” Biden said. “I mean, my God. He’s the president of the United States of America.”

2020 DEMS PLAY TO THE BASE BY VOTING TO EXTEND GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN

He accused Trump of viewing everything through a selfish lens.

“We have a president who is consumed by his political survival,” Biden said. “It’s the beginning, the middle and the end. Everything is run through the filter of how it affects Donald Trump in Donald Trump’s mind.”

“Since when do we give hate safe harbor in America? Since when are we leaving so many people behind? Guys, this president is doing great damage.”
- Joe Biden
Biden also accused Trump of “shredding some of our core values” and cited the president’s attacks on the press.

“I mean there’s an all-out attack on the guys wearing the striped shirts: the press and the courts,” he said. “It is a technique that’s been used repeatedly throughout history by those who want to clear the field so they’re in a position to be able to abuse power.”

Biden unsuccessfully sought the Democratic nomination for president in 1988 and 2008 but opted against a campaign in 2016. The 75-year-old, who has not ruled out a run in 2020, called for Democrats “to remain united as a party, and not be divided.”

“I will challenge any of you to put my progressive credentials of 36 years in the Senate up against any of you,” Biden said. “Any of you. I’ll also suggest that my commitment to growth of the middle class is as strong as any of you.”

Biden also pointed out how he and Obama won in places that Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton lost during the 2016 election.

“By the way, you know, all these so-called racists who voted against us last time out?” Biden asked, telling Democrats to “remember a black man and an Irish Catholic kid” won in many of the places where Trump beat Clinton.

“But for 72,000 votes, we wouldn’t be having this discussion,” he said. “72,000 votes.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/07/biden-bashes-trump-as-bully-touts-liberal-credentials-amid-2020-speculation.html


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 12, 2018, 03:24:55 PM
If this uncharismatic extremist becomes the nominee, they might as well start planning Trump's 2020 inauguration already. 

Kamala Harris: ‘I Support’ Oakland Mayor Who Helped Criminal Illegal Aliens Evade Deportation ‘100 Percent’
Libby-Schaaf-Kamala HarrisAP Photos
by JOHN BINDER
10 Mar 2018
Washington, D.C.

Senator and potential 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris (D-CA) says she “100 percent” supports Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf’s (D) decision to help criminal illegal aliens evade deportation ahead of a raid by federal immigration officials.

During a fundraiser for the YMCA’s “Y for Youth Luncheon,” Harris defended Schaaf, who made national headlines last month when she warned criminal illegal aliens of a coming raid in Oakland by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency.
 
Subsequently, Schaaf helped many criminal illegal aliens with sex crime convictions, drunk driving convictions, and armed robbery convictions escape arrest and deportation.

Harris defended Schaaf, saying “I think Mayor Schaaf is doing exactly what she believes is in the best interest of her community, and I support that 100 percent,” according to the San Francisco Chronicle. The liberal senator said the Trump administration was attempting to “roll back the clock” by enforcing federal immigration laws.

“This administration is using our tax dollars to engage in a political game instead of what’s in the best interest of Californians,” Harris said.

Harris’s defense of Schaaf’s warning to criminal illegal aliens is at odds with a plurality of Americans who say that Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ Department of Justice (DOJ) should prosecute Schaaf for obstruction of justice.

A plurality of swing voters, about 40 percent, agreed that Schaaf should be prosecuted for warning criminal illegal aliens ahead of an ICE raid.

Most recently, Breitbart News exclusively reported how the sanctuary state of California is likely responsible for at least 5,000 crimes that were committed by criminal illegal aliens who were released by the state rather than being handed over to ICE agents for deportation.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/10/kamala-harris-i-support-oakland-mayor-who-helped-criminal-illegal-aliens-evade-deportation-100-percent/


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 12, 2018, 03:26:04 PM
Good.  But I would like the see the results of a DNA test. 

Warren: No to White House bid, DNA test; says heritage 'part of who I am'
Joseph Weber By Joseph Weber   | Fox News

Some on the left and right are calling on Senator Elizabeth Warren to take a DNA test to straighten out questions about Native American heritage; radio host Howie Carr weighs in.

Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren on Sunday ruled out a 2020 presidential run and taking a DNA test to prove Native American ancestry -- an issue that has nagged her Senate campaigns and would almost certainly create problems in a White House bid.

“I’m not running for president,” Warren, a champion of the Democratic Party’s progressive wing, told “Fox News Sunday.”

When asked Sunday whether she’d agree to calls for genetic testing to resolve the heritage controversy, Warren launched into a family history, as purportedly told by her parents and grandparents, before saying, “It’s a part of who I am, and no one’s ever going to take that away.”

Warren, who is seeking a second Senate term this year, has been accused of saying she is of Native American heritage to help in securing jobs, including one as a Harvard law professor.

She has acknowledged identifying as a minority, but denies using such status to help advance her career.

President Trump has repeatedly called Warren, a Wall Street critic and potential White House rival, “Pocahontas,” a notable American Indian woman in colonial history, to highlight the controversy.

“Let me tell you a little bit about my family,” Warren said Sunday. “My mom and dad were born and raised out in Oklahoma, and my daddy was in his teens when he fell in love with my mother.

“She was a beautiful girl who played the piano. And he was head over heels in love with her and wanted to marry her. And his family was bitterly opposed to that because she was part Native American.

“And eventually my parents eloped and they survived the Great Depression, they survived The Dust Bowl. They went through a lot of hard times. They raised three boys, my older brothers, all of whom went off to the military.

"They raised me. They knocked around and it was tough but they hung together. They hung together for 63 years. I know who I am because of what my mother and my father told me, what my grandmother and my grandfather told me, what all my aunts and uncles told me and my brothers.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/11/warren-no-to-white-house-bid-dna-test-says-heritage-part-who-am.html


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 14, 2018, 08:57:33 AM
Cherokee genealogist casts doubt on Elizabeth Warren's story of parents' elopement
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/14/cherokee-genealogist-casts-doubt-on-elizabeth-warrens-story-parents-elopement.html

But The Washington Times reported that Cherokee genealogist Twila Barnes wrote in a 2016 blog that the story doesn't make sense. Barnes, who has researched Warren's family and found no evidence of Native American ancestry, researched the marriage of Pauline Reed and Donald Herring and found it appeared to be an ordinary wedding.

“The problem with Warren’s story is that none of the evidence supports it,” Barnes wrote. “Her genealogy shows no indication of Cherokee ancestry. Her parents’ wedding doesn’t resemble an elopement. And additional evidence doesn’t show any indication of her Herring grandparents being Indian haters.”

The wedding was performed by a prominent Methodist clergyman, not a justice of the peace, Barnes found. She also noted that a detailed wedding announcement was posted in the local newspaper in Wetumka, Oklahoma.

“If Ms. Warren’s parents eloped due to her mother being ‘Cherokee and Delaware’ and it was such a disgrace, why did they rush back to Wetumka the same day they were married and proudly announce it to everyone?” asked Ms. Barnes. “If there was shame associated with the marriage and it caused so many problems, why was it happily announced in the local paper?”



Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: residue on March 14, 2018, 10:00:01 AM
I am not a big Corey Booker fan, but put him on the ticket and the black, latino and young person turnout increases and favors Hillary.  Corey Booker has the ability
to connect with voters unlike Hillary and Kaine. 

didn't he run into a burning building or something?


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on March 14, 2018, 05:47:43 PM
Cherokee genealogist casts doubt on Elizabeth Warren's story of parents' elopement
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/14/cherokee-genealogist-casts-doubt-on-elizabeth-warrens-story-parents-elopement.html

But The Washington Times reported that Cherokee genealogist Twila Barnes wrote in a 2016 blog that the story doesn't make sense. Barnes, who has researched Warren's family and found no evidence of Native American ancestry, researched the marriage of Pauline Reed and Donald Herring and found it appeared to be an ordinary wedding.

“The problem with Warren’s story is that none of the evidence supports it,” Barnes wrote. “Her genealogy shows no indication of Cherokee ancestry. Her parents’ wedding doesn’t resemble an elopement. And additional evidence doesn’t show any indication of her Herring grandparents being Indian haters.”

The wedding was performed by a prominent Methodist clergyman, not a justice of the peace, Barnes found. She also noted that a detailed wedding announcement was posted in the local newspaper in Wetumka, Oklahoma.

“If Ms. Warren’s parents eloped due to her mother being ‘Cherokee and Delaware’ and it was such a disgrace, why did they rush back to Wetumka the same day they were married and proudly announce it to everyone?” asked Ms. Barnes. “If there was shame associated with the marriage and it caused so many problems, why was it happily announced in the local paper?”



Twila ... there's a name that brings back GetBig memories.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 21, 2018, 08:16:54 PM
First article I've ever read about this guy.  I have a friend in New Orleans who thinks he is terrible.  Interested to see what he brings to the table. 

The Southern Democrat who could shake up the 2020 field
‘I think he’s a remarkable talent … on the Bill Clinton, Barack Obama scale,’ says one admirer of New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu.
By EDWARD-ISAAC DOVERE 03/21/2018
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Mitch Landrieu is pictured. | Getty Images

Mitch Landrieu is spending his final year as mayor serving as president of the U.S. Conference of Mayors, traveling the country as he leads a bipartisan rejection of the Trump administration‘s policies on infrastructure, immigration, health care and more. | Sean Gardner/Getty Images

Mitch Landrieu isn’t, for the moment, getting ready to run for president. But that’s not stopping the Democrat who led the rebuilding of New Orleans from speaking out against institutional racism and what he calls the “nightmare loop” that links Donald Trump to David Duke.

With a media tour for his new book, “In the Shadow of Statues” (out Tuesday), and after headlining this month’s media-fest Gridiron Dinner in Washington, Landrieu knows he’s kept people talking. Monday night on “The Daily Show,” he smiled through a long burst of applause when Trevor Noah pitched him on 2020. Ridiculous as he and everyone around him knows it is to think about a New Orleans mayor making a serious bid for the White House, they also see the unique profile he’d have in a huge Democratic field concentrated on the coasts — the white Southern liberal who loves wrestling and musical theater, and looks like he could blend right in at a Trump rally.

Barack Obama has taken note of Landrieu’s record as mayor and a speech he gave last year on removing Confederate monuments. The former president has said privately that he could see the appeal of a bald white guy from Louisiana talking up progressive politics in a smooth Southern accent. Though Obama is far from signing up, some notable players in his orbit are daydreaming of finding the next unlikely superstar and making it happen.

Landrieu sees the situation. He says he just doesn’t necessarily see himself as the solution.

“The country’s in a dark hour. My commitment has always been to do what I can to help,” Landrieu said. “You never say never. At the moment, I can’t see a pathway.“

And he knows he’s laying out what sounds like a platform. The subtitle of his book, a frank account of racism in America, is “A White Southerner Confronts History.” It includes tough words about the failures of politics to stop discrimination. In one passage, Landrieu points out that on the campaign trail, Ronald Reagan condemned the murders of civil rights workers, but that he then approved a budget that served pickled relish as a vegetable in poorer public schools.

He also knows, according to a person close to him, that running statewide in red Louisiana would likely be impossible after some of the decisions he’s made and constituencies he’s catered to as a strongly Democratic mayor. Also that his father, former New Orleans Mayor Moon Landrieu, sometimes regrets not having run for president himself.

Landrieu hasn’t raised money or hired any consultants or conspicuously campaign-minded aides. But he does have his prominent cheerleaders with local roots, like Louisiana native and former interim Democratic National Committee chair Donna Brazile, who said he’d be “a fantastic candidate.”

“We all know had Hillary Clinton won, Mitch Landrieu would have been a candidate for several Cabinet appointments,” Brazile said, stressing that she wasn’t making an endorsement. “But given the circumstances, I think it’s important to keep his eyes open and see which way the wind will blow in 2020.”

“It’s one thing to run for president, and it’s another thing for people to take you seriously. He clearly falls into the second category,” said James Carville, the Clinton political guru. “I think he’s a remarkable talent ... on the Bill Clinton, Barack Obama scale. The more people see him, the more people will like him.”

They’re not the only ones.

“I think he could have a really strong appeal as somebody who would run entirely outside of the Washington, D.C., ecosystem, and I think there’s a real hunger for that among Democrats. He fits that bill, and others do as well,” said Mitch Stewart, Obama’s Iowa field director in 2008 and battleground states director in 2012. “In a field of 15 to 20 candidates, in the first couple of states, you don’t need to get 50 percent. Can your posture, can your values as a candidate — would 15 to 20 percent be enough to prove viability? The calculus is different than in 2008 and 2016.”

Stewart added, “He would be one of the few candidates who I think could appeal to the African-American community and the white working class.”

In 2010, after moving his family back to New Orleans and feeling distraught at the state of the city, Carville talked Landrieu into a late entry into the mayor’s race with a poll that showed he’d win easily, despite his three previous losses for the job.

Carville said he’ll try to be that convincing again.

“I’ll do my best, because I’d like to see him run,” he said.

Landrieu’s book tour is taking him all around the country, ahead of an enormous tricentennial bash in New Orleans just before his term ends in May.

“I think people in the country are thirsting for an answer for how we get out of where we are and get us to where we need to be,” Landrieu said. “This has less to do with me, than can we please find somebody to really run the country … to get us out of this seemingly manufactured chaos that we’re in and get us to some security.”

He contrasted Trump’s record with his own experience leading a city devastated by Hurricane Katrina and wracked by years of mismanagement that’s now on the rise. New Orleans, Landrieu said, is “a city that is ascendant that used to be descendant.”

Landrieu is spending his final year as mayor serving as president of the U.S. Conference of Mayors, traveling the country as he leads a bipartisan rejection of the Trump administration‘s policies on infrastructure, immigration, health care and more. He said Washington needs to pay closer attention to the performance of mayors from both parties.

“The question we have to ask ourselves is why Washington is so stuck when you have all of this innovation going on,” Landrieu said.

But Landrieu’s big mission, and one that he said he doesn’t need to run for president to pursue, is making people confront racism — their own and the country’s. That starts with Trump but goes much deeper, he said. Everything that America is going through now, he said, Louisiana has seen already.

“We can recognize it more clearly, and we hear dog whistles more acutely. I was trying to wake the country up to the fact this is not new,” Landrieu said.

In the book, Landrieu traces Duke’s rise through state politics in the 1980s and 1990s — the two served alongside one another in the statehouse in Baton Rouge. Landrieu writes that Duke advanced by tapping into economic anxiety and got a pass on his racism from other Republicans who “saw him as a slick operator of calculated expediency, but very few wanted to speak out against him.”

The former Klansman, Landrieu writes, was regularly undercutting facts in an early version of “fake news!” A passage from a newsletter from Duke’s National Association for the Advancement of White People, Landrieu writes, “sounded a whole lot like ‘Make America Great Again.’”

“It seems so benign, but the word again gave the line its punch. Again fills African-Americans with dread. Exactly when were we great before? What are we going back to? And by the way, your great wasn’t so great for me,” Landrieu writes.

Landrieu said he’s going to take some time when his term ends to recover. He’s been in office for 30 years straight, working his way up. He has five children, and he said he wants to earn a living.

The last section of his book makes a more direct case against Trump, weaving in his own personal history and quoting Robert F. Kennedy.

"Poverty is a form of violence, I believe. So is not having access to health care, or not having a real job,” Landrieu writes. “We all come to the table of democracy in the United States as equals. That's what makes America great.”

If Landrieu decides to run, he’ll have the rare luxury of not having a job — either to distract him from the campaign or to trigger complaints that he’s ignoring his work for the sake of his political ambitions. His admirers say Landrieu‘s background also gives him the advantage of being able to speak credibly to Trump voters.

“If he showed up somewhere, people would show up to hear what he has to say,” Carville said. “That’s a huge thing. Not everybody crosses that threshold from Day One.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/21/mitch-landrieu-2020-democrats-473648


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 21, 2018, 10:31:23 PM
What the Democrats need is Oprah to run. We've already learned a lesson about discounting a TV personality due to lack of qualifications. In todays America, Honey Boo Boo would garner more votes than Bernie Sanders. 


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 22, 2018, 06:00:15 AM
What the Democrats need is Oprah to run. We've already learned a lesson about discounting a TV personality due to lack of qualifications. In todays America, Honey Boo Boo would garner more votes than Bernie Sanders. 

A fat black broad who dates white guys who is an emotional wreck.    Yeah just the latest rescue to the Democrat shithole of a party.   


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 22, 2018, 09:53:00 AM
What the Democrats need is Oprah to run. We've already learned a lesson about discounting a TV personality due to lack of qualifications. In todays America, Honey Boo Boo would garner more votes than Bernie Sanders. 
There is truth in what you say. Sad.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 22, 2018, 10:38:00 AM
A fat black broad who dates white guys who is an emotional wreck.    Yeah just the latest rescue to the Democrat shithole of a party.   

honestly, Trump ain't much better, so we got nowhere to go but up


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 22, 2018, 10:47:03 AM
A fat black broad who dates white guys who is an emotional wreck.    Yeah just the latest rescue to the Democrat shithole of a party.   

And her net worth is peanuts at $2.7 billion. Stedman Graham, Oprah's partner for the last 30 years is African American.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 22, 2018, 11:00:44 AM
And her net worth is peanuts at $2.7 billion. Stedman Graham, Oprah's partner for the last 30 years is African American.

He's a lawyer, facts don't matter


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 22, 2018, 11:43:50 AM
And her net worth is peanuts at $2.7 billion. Stedman Graham, Oprah's partner for the last 30 years is African American.

My bad - she is still an emotional land whale who can't diet


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 22, 2018, 04:08:31 PM
My bad - she is still an emotional land whale who can't diet

worth a couple billion.. and you are..?


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 22, 2018, 04:22:00 PM
My bad - she is still an emotional land whale who can't diet

I see nothing bad here. Rumors about her relationships have been around forever. She's a public figure. Although IMO she makes too big a deal about dieting when it is impossible to hide the failures and there's been a few.

Oprah 1998 Vogue cover photo:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ADvTFu0VuwA/UvoY0JBX5GI/AAAAAAAADmI/gdh8OtqVa6s/s1600/Oprah-Winfrey-Slim-Vogue-1998-Fashion-Rehab-03.jpg)

Twenty years later:

(https://s.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/oprah-winfrey-golden-globe-awards3-ap-mem-180108_4x3_992.jpg)


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 22, 2018, 04:34:36 PM
I see nothing bad here. Rumors about her relationships have been around forever. She's a public figure. Although IMO she makes too big a deal about dieting when it is impossible to hide the failures and there's been a few.

Oprah 1998 Vogue cover photo:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ADvTFu0VuwA/UvoY0JBX5GI/AAAAAAAADmI/gdh8OtqVa6s/s1600/Oprah-Winfrey-Slim-Vogue-1998-Fashion-Rehab-03.jpg)

Twenty years later:

(https://s.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/oprah-winfrey-golden-globe-awards3-ap-mem-180108_4x3_992.jpg)

Selective use of pictures.  She has been obese for much of her life. 

(http://i.imgur.com/WZFzc51h.jpg)


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 22, 2018, 04:47:24 PM
Selective use of pictures.  She has been obese for much of her life.  

(http://i.imgur.com/WZFzc51h.jpg)

Not sure what you mean here. I selected these two photos as examples of her thin and not-so-thin.

She's clearly obese in this photo, 'Oprah Winfrey admits to tipping the scales at 200 Lbs' in 2008.  In 1990, she weighed 237

(https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/oprah-9.jpg)

All her yo-yo weight gains and losses cannot be healthy.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Las Vegas on March 22, 2018, 05:21:02 PM
Biden had better find a way to pull footage on the hours upon hours worth of him grabbing and slobbering up the little girls who were so unfortunate to be in his presence over the years.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 22, 2018, 05:27:02 PM
Not sure what you mean here. I selected these two photos as examples of her thin and not-so-thin.

She's clearly obese in this photo, 'Oprah Winfrey admits to tipping the scales at 200 Lbs' in 2008.  In 1990, she weighed 237

(https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/oprah-9.jpg)

All her yo-yo weight gains and losses cannot be healthy.

Ok.  I misunderstood what you were doing.  My bad.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on March 22, 2018, 07:07:59 PM
I prefer fat Oprah.  Makes my dick harder than the blazes.  I'd probably drop a load by merely sucking her tits.  Wonder what kind of nipples she's packing?


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 22, 2018, 09:05:37 PM
I prefer fat Oprah.  Makes my dick harder than the blazes.  I'd probably drop a load by merely sucking her tits.  Wonder what kind of nipples she's packing?


Drunken post of peace.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 10, 2018, 09:45:49 AM
Thank you Pocahontas.

Warren: I’ll serve my full Senate term if reelected
By LAUREN DEZENSKI 04/05/2018

DORCHESTER, Mass. — Elizabeth Warren said she would serve her full six-year term in the Senate if reelected in November.

“Yes, that’s my plan. I’m running for the United States Senate in 2018,” Warren told reporters Thursday, when asked if she would commit to serving out her full term. “I am not running for president of the United States. That’s my plan.”

. . . .

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/05/warren-pledges-full-senate-term-2018-505308


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 16, 2018, 10:04:34 AM
This hack wants to be president?  Please.

Cory Booker Asks Pompeo About ‘Gay Sex’ Three Times During Hearing
Mike Pompeo, Cory BookerAP Photos
by KRISTINA WONG
12 Apr 2018

Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) on Thursday made news after repeatedly demanding to know CIA Director Mike Pompeo’s views on gay sex at his confirmation hearing to become Secretary of State.

Booker cited a speech Pompeo gave as a congressman in 2015 at a church, in which he quoted words a pastor had once delivered before the Kansas State Legislature.
 
“America had worshipped other Gods and called it multiculturalism. We’d endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle,” Pompeo had said.

Booker then repeatedly asked Pompeo: “Is being gay a perversion?”

Pompeo responded that as a politician he had a “very clear view” on whether it was appropriate for two same sex persons to get married. “I stand by that,” he said.

“So you do not think it is appropriate for two gay people to marry?” Booker said.

Pompeo responded, “Senator, I continue to hold that view.”

Booker then suggested that Pompeo’s views would be a problem, saying that he had met people at the State Department in Africa who were in same-sex marriages.

“We have married gay couples at the CIA, you should know, I treated them with the exact same set of rights — ,” Pompeo said before being cut off by Booker repeatedly.

“You believe gay sex is a perversion, yes or no?” Booker demanded, and Pompeo tried to answer. “Yes or no, do you believe that gay sex is a perversion? … Yes or no, do you believe gay sex is a perversion?”

Pompeo said he was going to give him the same answer. “My respect for every individual regardless of their sexual orientation is the same,” he said.

Booker said that as Secretary of State he would be representing America at a time “hate acts” were increasing in the U.S.

The Huffington Post published a story in 2013 that seemed to question Booker’s sexual orientation, citing an interview he gave to the Washington Post:

“Booker, who recently won the Democratic primary for a special upcoming Senate election, is 44 and unmarried and does not speak publicly about his personal life. But, the mayor tells the Washington Post that he doesn’t mind the gay rumors that have bubbled up from time to time during his political career:

“…People who think I’m gay, some part of me thinks it’s wonderful. Because I want to challenge people on their homophobia. I love seeing on Twitter when someone says I’m gay, and I say, ‘So what does it matter if I am? So be it. I hope you are not voting for me because you are making the presumption that I’m straight.’ ”

“This isn’t the first time ‘gay’ and Booker’s name have appeared in the same sentence,” the Huffington Post wrote.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/12/cory-booker-asks-pompeo-gay-sex-three-times-hearing/


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 16, 2018, 10:05:58 AM
Sen. Cory Booker Violating Constitution: Voting Against Pompeo for Religious Beliefs
by KEN KLUKOWSKI
15 Apr 2018
Washington, DC

WASHINGTON, DC – Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) announced on Friday that he will vote against CIA Director Mike Pompeo’s nomination to become secretary of state because of Pompeo’s beliefs on marriage and sexuality — beliefs consistent with Pompeo’s Christian faith. Conservative leaders are now denouncing Booker’s vote as a violation of the Constitution’s Religious Test Clause.

Booker sharply questioned Pompeo on Thursday during the nominee’s confirmation hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, referring to words Pompeo spoke at a church in his district when the current director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was still serving in the U.S. House of Representatives.
 
Pompeo has also supported efforts to defend marriage as the union between one man and one woman. Those beliefs are consistent with mainstream Christian beliefs.

Booker announced on Facebook late Friday that he will vote against Pompeo, saying that the former congressmen’s religious beliefs on these issues make him unfit to serve in federal office representing the United States. “I believe you can’t lead the people if you don’t love the people,” Booker wrote. The senator then quotes Bible verses that he thinks Pompeo is not living up to, including references to loving his neighbor.

Article VI of the U.S. Constitution provides, “No religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office of public Trust under the United States.”

Conservative and Christian leaders are appalled at Booker’s announcement, saying the Constitution forbids Booker’s voting against Pompeo because of the nominee’s religious beliefs.

“Demanding a loyalty oath to Sen. Booker’s determination of which beliefs are acceptable isn’t what this country is about; indeed, it’s what we fought for independence from,” Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council (FRC), tells Breitbart News. “We should celebrate that we are a nation that not only allows but encourages every American to hold and express their beliefs – including their religious beliefs – without fear of retribution by the government.”

Perkins, whose FRC has launched a petition protesting Booker’s violation of the Religious Test Clause that has 25,000 signatures at the time this article was filed, adds that this principle “is the essence of America and the Constitution.”

“Religious bigotry and discrimination is unacceptable in this country, much less from someone who takes an oath to our Constitution and who is supposed to serve the people of this country,” agrees Kelly Shackelford, president of First Liberty Institute, in an exclusive comment to Breitbart News.

“Sen. Cory Booker questioned Secretary of State-nominee Mike Pompeo for comments he made at his church, comments which reflected long-standing church doctrine regarding homosexual conduct and the biblical definition of marriage,” said Prof. John Eastman, chairman of the National Organization for Marriage (NOM). “And now Sen. Booker asserts that he will oppose Pompeo for those views.”

“This is essentially imposing a religious test on officers of the United States, something explicitly forbidden by Article VI of the Constitution,” added Eastman, whose NOM has likewise launched a petition.

“The American people put President Trump in the White House in part because they refuse to be discriminated against for their long-held, mainstream beliefs,” Trump Transition Team leader Ken Blackwell offers to Breitbart News. “Whether on abortion, marriage, the Bible, the Second Amendment, or other issues, tens of millions of Americans who are wonderful people have been vilified for their beliefs by left-wing elites, and the American people chose a president who will stand up for them.”

Pompeo’s nomination is still pending in the Senate, with committee approval expected shortly but no final floor vote yet scheduled.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/15/sen-booker-violating-constitution-voting-pompeo-religious-beliefs/


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on May 21, 2018, 08:49:51 AM
At least he won't have to deal with Clinton cheating him out of the nomination.  And will not surprise me one bit of Democrats nominate an avowed socialist.  He will do down in flames if he is the nominee.

In re-election announcement, Bernie Sanders vows to be Trump's 'fiercest opponent in the Senate'
by Anna Giaritelli
May 21, 2018

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., announced his bid Monday for a third term and aimed to earn more support in the November 2018 election by promising to be President Trump's worst enemy in the Senate.

“Today, I am announcing my intention to run for re-election to the United States Senate in 2018,” Sanders wrote on Twitter.

"These are frightening and unprecedented times. We have a president who is not only a pathological liar, but someone who is trying to win votes by dividing our nation up based on the color of our skin, our country of origin, our religion, our gender or our sexual orientation," he continued. "If reelected, you can be sure that I will continue to be the fiercest opponent in the Senate to the rightwing extremism of Trump and the Republican leadership."

The Independent lawmaker caucuses with the Democratic Party but has endorsed socialist ideas that are far more progressive than those of moderate liberals.

Sanders, who turns 77 years old in September, would be 83 years old at the conclusion of a third term, if elected.

The senator became a household name by challenging Hillary Clinton for the Democrat's 2016 presidential nomination.

The Cook Political Report declared last September Sanders' seat a "solid Democrat."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/in-re-election-announcement-bernie-sanders-vows-to-be-trumps-fiercest-opponent-in-the-senate


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2018, 10:29:20 AM
So far, a steady stream of duds. 

Eric Holder says he's interested in being president. And he thinks he has what it takes
CNN Digital Expansion 2017
By Dan Merica, CNN
Sun July 29, 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/28/politics/eric-holder-interested-in-being-president/index.html


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 01, 2018, 10:33:11 AM
So far, a steady stream of duds. 

Eric Holder says he's interested in being president. And he thinks he has what it takes
CNN Digital Expansion 2017
By Dan Merica, CNN
Sun July 29, 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/28/politics/eric-holder-interested-in-being-president/index.html

Eric Holder - HA!!!! 


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2018, 11:44:44 AM
This hack wants to be president?  Please.

Cory Booker Asks Pompeo About ‘Gay Sex’ Three Times During Hearing
Mike Pompeo, Cory BookerAP Photos
by KRISTINA WONG
12 Apr 2018

Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) on Thursday made news after repeatedly demanding to know CIA Director Mike Pompeo’s views on gay sex at his confirmation hearing to become Secretary of State.

Booker cited a speech Pompeo gave as a congressman in 2015 at a church, in which he quoted words a pastor had once delivered before the Kansas State Legislature.
 
“America had worshipped other Gods and called it multiculturalism. We’d endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle,” Pompeo had said.

Booker then repeatedly asked Pompeo: “Is being gay a perversion?”

Pompeo responded that as a politician he had a “very clear view” on whether it was appropriate for two same sex persons to get married. “I stand by that,” he said.

“So you do not think it is appropriate for two gay people to marry?” Booker said.

Pompeo responded, “Senator, I continue to hold that view.”

Booker then suggested that Pompeo’s views would be a problem, saying that he had met people at the State Department in Africa who were in same-sex marriages.

“We have married gay couples at the CIA, you should know, I treated them with the exact same set of rights — ,” Pompeo said before being cut off by Booker repeatedly.

“You believe gay sex is a perversion, yes or no?” Booker demanded, and Pompeo tried to answer. “Yes or no, do you believe that gay sex is a perversion? … Yes or no, do you believe gay sex is a perversion?”

Pompeo said he was going to give him the same answer. “My respect for every individual regardless of their sexual orientation is the same,” he said.

Booker said that as Secretary of State he would be representing America at a time “hate acts” were increasing in the U.S.

The Huffington Post published a story in 2013 that seemed to question Booker’s sexual orientation, citing an interview he gave to the Washington Post:

“Booker, who recently won the Democratic primary for a special upcoming Senate election, is 44 and unmarried and does not speak publicly about his personal life. But, the mayor tells the Washington Post that he doesn’t mind the gay rumors that have bubbled up from time to time during his political career:

“…People who think I’m gay, some part of me thinks it’s wonderful. Because I want to challenge people on their homophobia. I love seeing on Twitter when someone says I’m gay, and I say, ‘So what does it matter if I am? So be it. I hope you are not voting for me because you are making the presumption that I’m straight.’ ”

“This isn’t the first time ‘gay’ and Booker’s name have appeared in the same sentence,” the Huffington Post wrote.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/12/cory-booker-asks-pompeo-gay-sex-three-times-hearing/

Pompeo's personal views on gay marriage shouldn't be at issue because in 2015 the US Supreme Court ruled that gay marriage is legal nationwide. If Pompeo discriminates against gay married folks or CIA employees who are in same sex marriages, he'd be breaking the law.   


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2018, 12:01:41 PM
2020 is still a ways off. Nominations for President should start to jell once the primaries are closer. However, this could happen sooner since Trump is currently putting a lot of his time and energy into campaigning for reelection. I believe all politicians should concentrate on doing their jobs at this point. If this puts incumbents at a disadvantage, so be it. Turnover in government can be a positive thing. Currently incumbents are much more likely to win reelection than new nominees.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2018, 12:58:59 PM
Pompeo's personal views on gay marriage shouldn't be at issue because in 2015 the US Supreme Court ruled that gay marriage is legal nationwide. If Pompeo discriminates against gay married folks or CIA employees who are in same sex marriages, he'd be breaking the law.   

His views on gay marriage are not at issue because they don't have squat to do with his job as Secretary of State. 


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2018, 01:00:34 PM
2020 is still a ways off. Nominations for President should start to jell once the primaries are closer. However, this could happen sooner since Trump is currently putting a lot of his time and energy into campaigning for reelection. I believe all politicians should concentrate on doing their jobs at this point. If this puts incumbents at a disadvantage, so be it. Turnover in government can be a positive thing. Currently incumbents are much more likely to win reelection than new nominees.

If he continues to perform as he has the first two years and if the economy remains strong, he will sail to reelection, particularly if Democrats nominate another dud.  But 2020 is a lifetime away in political years.  Lots can happen. 


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2018, 01:49:28 PM
His views on gay marriage are not at issue because they don't have squat to do with his job as Secretary of State. 

The secretary organizes and supervises the entire department and its staff. Which includes ‎13,000 Foreign Service employees. Should the Secretary of State discriminate against any of these folk because they are gay and/or in a gay marriage. He'll be breaking federal law. -Never said or implied this would happen. He has a right to his personal views and should not be questioned about them at this point.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on August 01, 2018, 02:09:18 PM
Pompeo's personal views on gay marriage shouldn't be at issue because in 2015 the US Supreme Court ruled that gay marriage is legal nationwide. If Pompeo discriminates against gay married folks or CIA employees who are in same sex marriages, he'd be breaking the law.   


Sometimes the laws are wrong.
I’d support him in discriminating.

I discriminate all the time if I don’t like certain types of people
And truth is likely almost everyone does to some extent.

I’m aware that I’m & friends are discriminated against that’s just
The way of the world.

Deal with it - move on.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2018, 02:22:15 PM
The secretary organizes and supervises the entire department and its staff. Which includes ‎13,000 Foreign Service employees. Should the Secretary of State discriminate against any of these folk because they are gay and/or in a gay marriage. He'll be breaking federal law. -Never said or implied this would happen. He has a right to his personal views and should not be questioned about them at this point.

So what?  The Homeland Security Director (and every other department head) supervises an enormous staff.  Their jobs have zero to do with gay marriage.  It was a ridiculous issue for Booker to bring up.  He's a partisan drama queen.  Thank God he will never sniff the White House. 


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2018, 02:31:18 PM

Sometimes the laws are wrong.
I’d support him in discriminating.

I discriminate all the time if I don’t like certain types of people
And truth is likely almost everyone does to some extent.

I’m aware that I’m & friends are discriminated against that’s just
The way of the world.

Deal with it - move on.

I don't think there is anything immoral or wrong about anti-discrimination laws.  I'm not a libertarian.  We have rightfully decided as a society that we will not allow certain forms of discrimination in the marketplace (employment, housing, and public accommodations).  That's a good thing.  The problem is we have expanded those protections to things that should not be regulated by the government. 


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on August 01, 2018, 02:38:05 PM
I don't think there is anything immoral or wrong about anti-discrimination laws.  I'm not a libertarian.  We have rightfully decided as a society that we will not allow certain forms of discrimination in the marketplace (employment, housing, and public accommodations).  That's a good thing.  The problem is we have expanded those protections to things that should not be regulated by the government. 


Yes I’d have to say I generally agree with what you said.

My point is People have / do & will continue to discriminate
In one way or another illegal or not they find ways around it.

It’s human nature.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2018, 03:03:15 PM

Yes I’d have to say I generally agree with what you said.

My point is People have / do & will continue to discriminate
In one way or another illegal or not they find ways around it.

It’s human nature.

True, although they cannot do it openly.  Like MLK said during the civil rights movement:  you cannot use the law to change people's hearts, but you can use it to control their behavior. 


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2018, 04:25:48 PM
So what?  The Homeland Security Director (and every other department head) supervises an enormous staff.  Their jobs have zero to do with gay marriage.  It was a ridiculous issue for Booker to bring up.  He's a partisan drama queen.  Thank God he will never sniff the White House.  

Any person in a supervisory position, be it in public or private employment, has the responsibility to obey the law. In this case, a law which legalized gay marriage. I've already shared my opinion on Booker's questioning any appointees' position on gay matters. It is wrong, unless he has direct knowledge that Pompeo has acted against the law since it was passed and would therefore be likely to disregard it in the future. Pompeo's personal beliefs should not be an issue.

I will not respond further on this matter because you and I are now 'beating a dead horse.'


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2018, 04:33:57 PM
Any person in a supervisory position, be it in public or private employment, has the responsibility to obey the law. In this case, a law which legalized gay marriage. I've already shared my opinion on Booker's questioning any appointees' position on gay matters. It is wrong, unless he has direct knowledge that Pompeo has acted against the law since it was passed and would therefore be likely to disregard it in the future. Pompeo's personal beliefs should not be an issue.

I will not respond further on this matter because you and I are now 'beating a dead horse.'

Frankly you're not making a whole lot of sense on this subject.  Not everyone in a "supervisory position" deals with gay marriage.  It's a non-issue in most contexts and definitely as it relates to Pompeo's job as Secretary of State.

And just to clarify, Booker was not asking about Pompeo's "personal beliefs," he was asking about Pompeo's religious beliefs, which is unconstitutional. 


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on August 01, 2018, 04:42:02 PM
Civil war can't come soon enough.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on August 01, 2018, 04:46:54 PM
Frankly you're not making a whole lot of sense on this subject.  Not everyone in a "supervisory position" deals with gay marriage.  It's a non-issue in most contexts and definitely as it relates to Pompeo's job as Secretary of State.

And just to clarify, Booker was not asking about Pompeo's "personal beliefs," he was asking about Pompeo's religious beliefs, which is unconstitutional. 

Logic is not the province of polesmokers.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2018, 04:48:07 PM
Civil war can't come soon enough.

Ha, ha. I was just reading something about this today. If the people of U.S. are willing to engage in another shameful civil war, I'm outta here!


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2018, 04:49:18 PM
Logic is not the province of polesmokers.

Dead horse.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2018, 05:17:55 PM
Civil war can't come soon enough.

Hyperbole, but not too much.  Definitely a culture war brewing. 


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on August 01, 2018, 05:39:39 PM
Dead horse.

Dead from the AIDS


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2018, 05:45:16 PM
Dead from the AIDS

Do horses get AIDS?


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 02, 2018, 01:17:14 PM
Do horses get AIDS?


Only the gay ones.


So, are you the new Shizzo?


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 02, 2018, 05:45:13 PM

Only the gay ones.


So, are you the new Shizzo?

Regardless of their sexual orientation, horses don't get HIV, but they can get EIA which is an HIV equivalent in that it affects their immune system. The list of mammals who exhibit homosexual behaviors is so incredibly long that it is impractical to publish it here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

Not sure what you mean by this, but no, I am not the new anyone. I'm just me - the same me that joined Getbig in 2004.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on August 02, 2018, 06:40:30 PM

Only the gay ones.


So, are you the new Shizzo?

This is a safe place.  Come on out.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 03, 2018, 04:03:54 PM
Shocking.  Not. 

Elizabeth Warren To Consider A 2020 Presidential Run After Midterms
“It’s time for women to go to Washington and fix our broken government, and that includes a woman at the top,” she said.
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By Nina Golgowski
POLITICS 09/30/2018

A presidential run may soon be on the horizon for Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

The Massachusetts Democrat announced on Saturday that she will seriously consider running for the White House following the midterm elections in November.

“It’s time for women to go to Washington and fix our broken government and that includes a woman at the top. So here’s what I promise, after November 6 I will take a hard look at running for president,” she declared to a standing ovation as seen in an online video.

Warren, an outspoken critic of President Donald Trump who has said he intends to seek re-election, shared her plans at a town hall meeting in western Massachusetts. She expressed concern about the nation’s general state of affairs and in particular decried Republicans’ handling of sexual assault accusations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

“I watched 11 men who were too chicken to ask a woman a single question,” she said of the GOP members of the Senate Judiciary Committee who relied on outside attorney to question Kavanaugh’s alleged victim, Christine Blasey Ford, at a hearing on Thursday. “I watched powerful men helping a powerful man make it to an even more powerful position.”

Of the president, Warren said, “Let’s face it, Donald Trump is taking this country in the wrong direction ... I am worried, down to my bones, about what Donald Trump is doing to our democracy.”

Speculation over a presidential bid by Warren has swirled for some time. Her Saturday remarks were her clearest and most direct on her intentions.

Warren, an Oklahoma native, won her Senate seat in 2012 after careers as a law professor and consumer advocate. She is currently seeking re-election to the Senate, and is heavily favored to defeat state Rep. Geoff Diehl.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/elizabeth-warren-to-consider-2020-run_us_5bb0e824e4b0343b3dc11858


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Howard on October 04, 2018, 07:16:14 AM
Looks like another four years for Trump before he even started his first term..lol
2+ yrs is an eternity in politics.
To Trump's credit he was able to thread the voter needle in the rustbelt states and Penn. to win in 2016.
BUT, when you add it up, it was a small % of votes that did it in only a few key states.

I seriously doubt he can hold that same coalition together for a 2020 win.
For example, I think the GOP and Trump have lost college educated suburban woman for a looooooong time .


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on October 04, 2018, 04:37:41 PM
For example, I think the GOP and Trump have lost college educated suburban woman for a looooooong time .

No


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on October 04, 2018, 06:08:22 PM
2+ yrs is an eternity in politics.
To Trump's credit he was able to thread the voter needle in the rustbelt states and Penn. to win in 2016.
BUT, when you add it up, it was a small % of votes that did it in only a few key states.

I seriously doubt he can hold that same coalition together for a 2020 win.
For example, I think the GOP and Trump have lost college educated suburban woman for a looooooong time .


The historical imperative is that incumbent presidents are reelected unless challenged in the primary.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on October 05, 2018, 03:02:00 AM

For example, I think the GOP and Trump have lost college educated suburban woman for a looooooong time .


Only the coloured ones that were never voting GOP to begin with...  ::)


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on October 05, 2018, 12:25:36 PM
The historical imperative is that incumbent presidents are reelected unless challenged in the primary.

imperative?


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on October 05, 2018, 06:44:20 PM
imperative?

The term is "Historical imperative," meaning, history points to Trump's reelection.  As a prediction, it's low-hanging fruit.  But let's see if someone challenges Trump in the primaries and, if so, how much of the feared "dark money" goes to the challenger.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 05, 2018, 06:52:02 PM
Avenatti can be #16 as the cherry on top of this shit sundae.  ;)


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on October 05, 2018, 08:05:39 PM
The term is "Historical imperative," meaning, history points to Trump's reelection.  As a prediction, it's low-hanging fruit.  But let's see if someone challenges Trump in the primaries and, if so, how much of the feared "dark money" goes to the challenger.

Thanks for the clarification of the term(s). Not sure I agree, but then I thought Clinton would be our President...so, what do I know?  ::)

The two candidates running for state office in my district are both women. The Republican incumbent has been our house representative for many terms, but she's a bit of a renegade who makes decisions which rile her own party as well as it does the Democrats. I support her challenger. What I've noticed is that more than in any previous election, the Democratic party is  pouring a lot of support into getting their candidate elected. It would not surprise me if we have a new representative in the House come November 6th. Yeah!


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on October 05, 2018, 08:25:09 PM
Thanks for the clarification of the term(s). Not sure I agree, but then I thought Clinton would be our President...so, what do I know?  ::)

The two candidates running for state office in my district are both women. The Republican incumbent has been our house representative for many terms, but she's a bit of a renegade who makes decisions which rile her own party as well as it does the Democrats. I support her challenger. What I've noticed is that more than in any previous election, the Democratic party is  pouring a lot of support into getting their candidate elected. It would not surprise me if we have a new representative in the House come November 6th. Yeah!

You're welcome.  And to my knowledge, it only applies to presidential elections.  There're too many variables with "down ballot" elections.  Down ballot: s'what I learned in 2016.  ;D


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 22, 2018, 03:09:13 PM
And this dude is a presidential contender??  Holy smokes.   :-\

Joaquin Castro accuses Kushner of orchestrating killing of Khashoggi
BY OWEN DAUGHERTY - 10/19/18

Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-Texas) on Friday accused senior White House adviser Jared Kushner of orchestrating the killing of Saudi-born Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi.

Castro, who serves on the House Intelligence Committee, told CNN he did not have substantial evidence to support his claim, but repeatedly cited media reports on the subject.

Castro cited unspecified reporting “that Jared Kushner may have, with U.S. intelligence, delivered a hit list, an enemies list, to the crown prince, to MBS, in Saudi Arabia and that the prince may have acted on that.”

CNN host Poppy Harlow attempted to clarify what reporting Castro was referring to, saying CNN had not reported on that accusation.

Castro continued, saying “I’ve seen reporting to that effect … That needs to be investigated.”

Castro later clarified his comments, tweeting that he did not intend to accuse Kushner of orchestrating the killing and noting he meant to express that he wants Congress to open an investigation into whether U.S. intelligence was shared with Saudi Arabia that may have led to Khashoggi's death.

He also linked media reporting that highlighted ties between the Trump administration and Saudi Arabia.

“To be clear, I did not intend to accuse @jaredkushner of orchestrating anything,” Castro tweeted. “Based on press reporting, I’m asking for Congress to open an investigation of whether any US Intelligence was shared with Saudi Arabia that led to political persecution or killing of #Khashoggi.”

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders later condemned Castro's remarks, calling the allegation "outrageous" and "slanderous."

".@JoaquinCastrotx’s allegation is an outrageous slanderous lie without a shred of proof, it’s reprehensible for a sitting Congressman and supposed 'news' outlets to continue citing an article that used unnamed sources and was completely debunked," Sanders tweeted Friday afternoon.

Khashoggi has been missing for more than two weeks and was last seen entering the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul.

Kushner, the son-in-law of President Trump, and Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman have a well-documented relationship, though no one before Castro has accused Kushner of having any involvement in the death of Khashoggi.

On Thursday, Trump took his strongest stance against Saudi Arabia, threatening "very severe" consequences if the country is found to be responsible for the killing.

Until Thursday, Trump and his top aides had been reluctant to criticize the Saudis over Khashoggi's disappearance and the president even floated the possibility that “rogue killers” were responsible for the alleged attack.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/412249-joaquin-castro-accuses-jared-kushner-of-orchestrating-killing-of


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 22, 2018, 06:48:24 PM
And this dude is a presidential contender??  Holy smokes.   :-\

Joaquin Castro accuses Kushner of orchestrating killing of Khashoggi
BY OWEN DAUGHERTY - 10/19/18

Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-Texas) on Friday accused senior White House adviser Jared Kushner of orchestrating the killing of Saudi-born Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi.

Castro, who serves on the House Intelligence Committee, told CNN he did not have substantial evidence to support his claim, but repeatedly cited media reports on the subject.

Castro cited unspecified reporting “that Jared Kushner may have, with U.S. intelligence, delivered a hit list, an enemies list, to the crown prince, to MBS, in Saudi Arabia and that the prince may have acted on that.”

CNN host Poppy Harlow attempted to clarify what reporting Castro was referring to, saying CNN had not reported on that accusation.

Castro continued, saying “I’ve seen reporting to that effect … That needs to be investigated.”

Castro later clarified his comments, tweeting that he did not intend to accuse Kushner of orchestrating the killing and noting he meant to express that he wants Congress to open an investigation into whether U.S. intelligence was shared with Saudi Arabia that may have led to Khashoggi's death.

He also linked media reporting that highlighted ties between the Trump administration and Saudi Arabia.

“To be clear, I did not intend to accuse @jaredkushner of orchestrating anything,” Castro tweeted. “Based on press reporting, I’m asking for Congress to open an investigation of whether any US Intelligence was shared with Saudi Arabia that led to political persecution or killing of #Khashoggi.”

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders later condemned Castro's remarks, calling the allegation "outrageous" and "slanderous."

".@JoaquinCastrotx’s allegation is an outrageous slanderous lie without a shred of proof, it’s reprehensible for a sitting Congressman and supposed 'news' outlets to continue citing an article that used unnamed sources and was completely debunked," Sanders tweeted Friday afternoon.

Khashoggi has been missing for more than two weeks and was last seen entering the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul.

Kushner, the son-in-law of President Trump, and Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman have a well-documented relationship, though no one before Castro has accused Kushner of having any involvement in the death of Khashoggi.

On Thursday, Trump took his strongest stance against Saudi Arabia, threatening "very severe" consequences if the country is found to be responsible for the killing.

Until Thursday, Trump and his top aides had been reluctant to criticize the Saudis over Khashoggi's disappearance and the president even floated the possibility that “rogue killers” were responsible for the alleged attack.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/412249-joaquin-castro-accuses-jared-kushner-of-orchestrating-killing-of

Taking a play right out of the Trump book. Page 63. Accuse Ted Cruz' dad of assisting in killing JFK


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 22, 2018, 07:43:14 PM
Taking a play right out of the Trump book. Page 63. Accuse Ted Cruz' dad of assisting in killing JFK

 ::)


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on October 29, 2018, 02:25:44 AM
plz god let this happen!


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Howard on October 29, 2018, 07:29:11 AM
I  think a new dem challenger will emerge long AFTER the dust settles from 2018 midterms.
If the dems take back and the house and Pelosi is speaker, expect the usual suspects to emerge in 2020.
For example, Joe Biden could emerge as a the defacto dem leader and run as a 1 term POTUS.
In this scenario look for the GOP to run Gov J Kasich or Romney to challenge Trump in 2020.

BUT, if the dems install a new speaker OR ( don't win the house or senate) expect a new direction for dems.

I don't see it happening, but if the dems lose big in 2018, expect the GOP to show even more loyalty and support around Trump.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Kwon3 on October 29, 2018, 11:17:50 AM
I  think a new dem challenger will emerge long AFTER the dust settles from 2018 midterms.
If the dems take back and the house and Pelosi is speaker, expect the usual suspects to emerge in 2020.
For example, Joe Biden could emerge as a the defacto dem leader and run as a 1 term POTUS.
In this scenario look for the GOP to run Gov J Kasich or Romney to challenge Trump in 2020.

BUT, if the dems install a new speaker OR ( don't win the house or senate) expect a new direction for dems.

I don't see it happening, but if the dems lose big in 2018, expect the GOP to show even more loyalty and support around Trump.


I think everything you say on here is bullshit and should be treated as such.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on October 29, 2018, 03:24:35 PM
2020 is about to be a blast!


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on October 29, 2018, 03:27:53 PM
2020 is about to be a blast!


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 29, 2018, 03:48:17 PM

m
Drunken loser witch


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on October 29, 2018, 10:01:24 PM
I  think a new dem challenger will emerge long AFTER the dust settles from 2018 midterms.
If the dems take back and the house and Pelosi is speaker, expect the usual suspects to emerge in 2020.
For example, Joe Biden could emerge as a the defacto dem leader and run as a 1 term POTUS.
In this scenario look for the GOP to run Gov J Kasich or Romney to challenge Trump in 2020.

BUT, if the dems install a new speaker OR ( don't win the house or senate) expect a new direction for dems.

I don't see it happening, but if the dems lose big in 2018, expect the GOP to show even more loyalty and support around Trump.


This would be bad for Trump.  He'll win every state Hillary won and take back Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and probably Ohio. 




Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 29, 2018, 10:15:31 PM
This would be bad for Trump.  He'll win every state Hillary won and take back Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and probably Ohio. 




lol


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 29, 2018, 11:38:20 PM
Trump would crumple Biden. Kasich might as well run as a Dem...can you say RINO?


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Kwon3 on October 29, 2018, 11:45:20 PM
I  think a new dem challenger will emerge long AFTER the dust settles from 2018 midterms.
If the dems take back and the house and Pelosi is speaker, expect the usual suspects to emerge in 2020.
For example, Joe Biden could emerge as a the defacto dem leader and run as a 1 term POTUS.
In this scenario look for the GOP to run Gov J Kasich or Romney to challenge Trump in 2020.

BUT, if the dems install a new speaker OR ( don't win the house or senate) expect a new direction for dems.

I don't see it happening, but if the dems lose big in 2018, expect the GOP to show even more loyalty and support around Trump.

Who, this guy?

(https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8422640384/hFCD48F41/)
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EveryPessimisticIaerismetalmark-size_restricted.gif)
(https://i.redd.it/luzhew55oxuy.gif)
(https://i.gifer.com/2y4R.gif)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/IkTn72qLPFMnC/giphy.gif)
(https://thetvmouse.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/leslie-kissing-biden.gif?w=620)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/C3pDnuXbVVRNC/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on October 30, 2018, 12:37:52 PM
It hurts my brain to think about what's going to happen 2 years from now when we elect the president. Trump was a surprise to many. There's probably more surprises to come.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Kwon3 on October 30, 2018, 06:28:28 PM
It hurts my brain to think about what's going to happen 2 years from now when we elect the president. Trump was a surprise to many. There's probably more surprises to come.
It's going to depend in large part on how Republicans vote next month whether Trump gets 4 more years in 2020. We stood squarely behind him over Brett Kavanaugh and we'll do it again next month, but how much exactly remains to be seen. Midterms are historically tough for sitting presidents. But the Left's doom & gloom predictions in November 2016 proved to be unfounded. Two years later, he's decimated a significant portion of the old guard that was resisting him in his own party and has remained in contact with the people who elected him by cleverly rallying again all over the country, something no President has done in America history in non-election years. He's 72 years old and has health problems with an average of 4hrs of sleep and one of the most stressful jobs in the world plus the entire media sitting on his neck, can't be easy. Men half his age would be burned out by now.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on October 31, 2018, 02:51:13 PM
It hurts my brain to think about what's going to happen 2 years from now when we elect the president. Trump was a surprise to many. There's probably more surprises to come.
Creepy uncle Joe going to get exposed and blasted if he even thinks about it.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Kwon3 on October 31, 2018, 06:30:18 PM
Creepy uncle Joe going to get exposed and blasted if he even thinks about it.
He fondles and touches women inappropriately, and it's all on tape. He's also made prejudicial statements about blacks and did it when he was running against Obama. He's a shitbag. This is who the Left sees as the best and brightest patron saint.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 31, 2018, 06:49:43 PM
He fondles and touches women inappropriately, and it's all on tape. He's also made prejudicial statements about blacks and did it when he was running against Obama. He's a shitbag. This is who the Left sees as the best and brightest patron saint.

And he is STILL better than the current Dufus


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 31, 2018, 07:00:54 PM
And he is STILL better than the current Dufus

lol


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on November 01, 2018, 05:06:32 PM
He fondles and touches women inappropriately, and it's all on tape. He's also made prejudicial statements about blacks and did it when he was running against Obama. He's a shitbag. This is who the Left sees as the best and brightest patron saint.
There must be hundreds of pics/vids of him touching, grabbing, kissing on young girls. It's actually amazing he hasn't been called out, even by the liberal media.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on November 02, 2018, 07:45:13 AM
And he is STILL better than the current Dufus

better at fondling women? I'll concede that.

But I have yet to see Biden get a whore to pay HIM for sex (i.e. Stormy).


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on November 02, 2018, 06:06:39 PM
And he is STILL better than the current Dufus


CIA's Communications Catastrophe Revealed

In 2013, hundreds of CIA officers — many working nonstop for weeks — scrambled to contain a disaster of global proportions: a compromise of the agency’s internet-based covert communications system used to interact with its informants in dark corners around the world. Teams of CIA experts worked feverishly to take down and reconfigure the websites secretly used for these communications; others managed operations to quickly spirit assets to safety and oversaw other forms of triage.

“When this was going on, it was all that mattered,” said one former intelligence community official. The situation was “catastrophic,” said another former senior intelligence official.

From around 2009 to 2013, the U.S. intelligence community experienced crippling intelligence failures related to the secret internet-based communications system, a key means for remote messaging between CIA officers and their sources on the ground worldwide. The previously unreported global problem originated in Iran and spiderwebbed to other countries, and was left unrepaired — despite warnings about what was happening — until more than two dozen sources died in China in 2011 and 2012 as a result, according to 11 former intelligence and national security officials.

The disaster ensnared every corner of the national security bureaucracy — from multiple intelligence agencies, congressional intelligence committees and independent contractors to internal government watchdogs — forcing a slow-moving, complex government machine to grapple with the deadly dangers of emerging technologies.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cias-communications-suffered-catastrophic-compromise-started-iran-090018710.html

And Which Dindu Dufus was President them.

Why not cry a river at Donald being Your President.
Must Hurt So Much Everyday.

😂😂😂😂😂


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 04, 2018, 02:56:03 AM
And he is STILL better than the current Dufus

Hilarious.  Both Biden and ofagget never worked a real job in their lives


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 04, 2018, 05:43:00 PM
Hilarious.  Both Biden and ofagget never worked a real job in their lives

Maybe not blue collar jobs. With an advanced education at Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard Law School, Obama got his J.D., magna cum laude, why would he need to? He did briefly work as a civil rights attorney.

Biden also has a law degree and began working as an attorney immediately following graduation.

You're an attorney. Do you not think it's a real job? Perhaps it isn't if you have no clients. ;)


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 04, 2018, 05:49:52 PM
Maybe not blue collar jobs. With an advanced education at Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard Law School, where he got his J.D., magna cum laude, why would he?

Neither a real job ever.   Ever. 

Both are worthless garbage and parasites.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 09, 2018, 10:59:15 AM
KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND STILL CONSIDERING A 2020 PRESIDENTIAL RUN DESPITE PROMISING NOT TO
11/09/2018 | POLITICS
Molly Prince | Politics Reporter

Democratic New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand announced Thursday that she is still considering launching a bid for the presidency in 2020, even though she promised prior to her midterm election that she would serve her full six-year term if re-elected to the Senate.

While appearing on “The Late Show,” host Stephen Colbert asked the New York senator whether she’s contemplating a presidential run.

“I do think it’s an important question,” Gillibrand responded. “I believe it’s a moral question for me … And as I’ve traveled across my state, across this country for all these candidates, I’ve seen the hatred and division that President Trump has put into our country and it has called me to fight as hard as I possibly can restore the moral compass of this country.”

WATCH:

“I believe right now that every one of us should figure out how we can do whatever we can with our time, with our talents to restore that moral decency, that moral compass, that truth of who we are as Americans,” Gillibrand continued. “So I will promise you I will give it a long, hard thought of consideration. I will do that.” (RELATED: Kirsten Gillibrand: I Never Meant Abolish ICE When I Said ‘Abolish ICE’)

However, only two weeks earlier, Gillibrand pledged during a debate with her GOP challenger that she would “serve [her] six-year term” if she won re-election.

Gillibrand handily won re-election on Tuesday by 33 points.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/09/kirsten-gillibrand-2020-presidential-run/


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on November 11, 2018, 03:43:48 PM
The writing is on the wall Trumptards!  8)


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 05, 2018, 11:12:25 AM
He's running. She's running. Everyone's running.
Damon Linker
December 5, 2018
https://theweek.com/articles/810783/hes-running-running-everyones-running


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 05, 2018, 03:54:26 PM
He's running. She's running. Everyone's running.
Damon Linker
December 5, 2018
https://theweek.com/articles/810783/hes-running-running-everyones-running

Who is or isn't running will be a constant media talking point for the next year.  ::) ::)


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on December 05, 2018, 04:00:55 PM
Maybe not blue collar jobs. With an advanced education at Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard Law School, Obama got his J.D., magna cum laude, why would he need to? He did briefly work as a civil rights attorney.

Biden also has a law degree and began working as an attorney immediately following graduation.

You're an attorney. Do you not think it's a real job? Perhaps it isn't if you have no clients. ;)
Civil rights attorney ::)


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 05, 2018, 04:06:35 PM
Civil rights attorney ::)

He probably didn't make as much as a corporate attorney, but the risks weren't anything as compared to being one of Trump's corporate attorneys where the risk is substantial, as we've witnessed these past couple of years.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on December 05, 2018, 04:12:22 PM
He probably didn't make as much as a corporate attorney, but the risks weren't anything as compared to being one of Trump's corporate attorneys where the risk is substantial, as we've witnessed these past couple of years.
And we'll keep witnessing until 2024 when Trump leaves office. :-*


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on December 06, 2018, 01:25:56 AM
Here is your 2020 candidate:


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 06, 2018, 04:51:45 AM
Civil rights attorney ::)

O-BUM  was never a real lawyer.   He has always been a ghetto bum and street hustler.   


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 06, 2018, 09:59:20 AM
Here is your 2020 candidate:

For the love of God Pleeeeeease let this happen!!!!

There is NO greater matchup than Trump v. Hillary 2.0


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 06, 2018, 11:10:29 AM
O-BUM  was never a real lawyer.   He has always been a ghetto bum and street hustler.   

Senior attorneys at the small firm where he worked say he was a strong writer and researcher, but was involved in relatively few cases -- about 30 -- and spent only four years as a full-time lawyer before entering politics.

Obama arrived in Chicago in 1993 with a degree from Harvard Law School and was hired as a junior lawyer at the firm then known as Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Gallard. He helped represent clients in civil and voting rights matters and wrongful firings, argued a case before a federal appellate court, and took the lead in writing a suit to expand voter registration.




Whats a real lawyer?


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 06, 2018, 11:32:20 AM
Senior attorneys at the small firm where he worked say he was a strong writer and researcher, but was involved in relatively few cases -- about 30 -- and spent only four years as a full-time lawyer before entering politics.

Obama arrived in Chicago in 1993 with a degree from Harvard Law School and was hired as a junior lawyer at the firm then known as Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Gallard. He helped represent clients in civil and voting rights matters and wrongful firings, argued a case before a federal appellate court, and took the lead in writing a suit to expand voter registration.




Whats a real lawyer?

So ghetto


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 06, 2018, 11:41:55 AM
Senior attorneys at the small firm where he worked say he was a strong writer and researcher, but was involved in relatively few cases -- about 30 -- and spent only four years as a full-time lawyer before entering politics.

Obama arrived in Chicago in 1993 with a degree from Harvard Law School and was hired as a junior lawyer at the firm then known as Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Gallard. He helped represent clients in civil and voting rights matters and wrongful firings, argued a case before a federal appellate court, and took the lead in writing a suit to expand voter registration.




Whats a real lawyer?

LOL - helped represent?  LMFAO!  What does that mean?  He was the token black person doing pro bono for the firm on meaningless crap while the real lawyers did real work.       

Took the lead in writing a suit to expand voter registration?   LMFAO.  Sounds like a Resume For Dummies line they tell you put in there.     


In other words - he was a do nothing for a month or two before he went to his regularly chooming and grifting ways


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 06, 2018, 03:39:14 PM
O-BUM  was never a real lawyer.   He has always been a ghetto bum and street hustler.   

What do you mean by this? He graduated Havard Law J.D. magna cum laude. He passed the bar and worked as a civil rights attorney at Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland for 11 years. He was a professor at the University of Chicago Law School for 12 years. -Seems pretty real to me.

Do you have similar credentials? If so, do you consider yourself a real lawyer?


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on December 06, 2018, 05:00:16 PM
What do you mean by this? He graduated Havard Law J.D. magna cum laude. He passed the bar and worked as a civil rights attorney at Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland for 11 years. He was a professor at the University of Chicago Law School for 12 years. -Seems pretty real to me.

Do you have similar credentials? If so, do you consider yourself a real lawyer?

He was not a law professor; he lectured.  This is not a minor point.  Law professors have students for an entire semester, counsel them, grade their papers, administer tests, etc. 

That he was welcome there for 12 years is significant, though.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 06, 2018, 05:35:18 PM
What do you mean by this? He graduated Havard Law J.D. magna cum laude. He passed the bar and worked as a civil rights attorney at Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland for 11 years. He was a professor at the University of Chicago Law School for 12 years. -Seems pretty real to me.

Do you have similar credentials? If so, do you consider yourself a real lawyer?

He never even tried a case.   He has less experience as a lawyer than a dude who handled traffic tickets -

Jacoby and Meyers would never hire him even in the mail room.  That you voted for him as potus - that is your stain and burden to bear.   Not mine.  Otwink is a joke.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 06, 2018, 07:21:50 PM
He never even tried a case.   He has less experience as a lawyer than a dude who handled traffic tickets -

Jacoby and Meyers would never hire him even in the mail room.  That you voted for him as potus - that is your stain and burden to bear.   Not mine.  Otwink is a joke.

Not that it matters, but you are possibly and technically mistaken. He argued a case before a federal appellate court.

Note, we are discussing Obama's qualifications or lack there of as a real lawyer. We are not discussing who either you or I voted for in 2008, probably because it isn't relevant.

Sorry can't help myself, but how many cases have you tried? I know, I know it isn't pertinent to our discussion, but I felt compelled to ask. You don't have to answer and you probably won't based on your previous ignorance of my questions to you about your profession.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 06, 2018, 09:37:52 PM
He never even tried a case.   He has less experience as a lawyer than a dude who handled traffic tickets -

Jacoby and Meyers would never hire him even in the mail room.  That you voted for him as potus - that is your stain and burden to bear.   Not mine.  Otwink is a joke.

He didn't file for bankruptcy multiple times or brag about groping {sexually assaulting) women...  so get off that friggin Walmart store front quarter a ride high horse of yours.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 06, 2018, 09:47:56 PM
I do not subscribe to any idea that Obama was uneducated. The value of what he was educated/expert in is another story.



Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 07, 2018, 05:30:14 AM
Not that it matters, but you are possibly and technically mistaken. He argued a case before a federal appellate court.

Note, we are discussing Obama's qualifications or lack there of as a real lawyer. We are not discussing who either you or I voted for in 2008, probably because it isn't relevant.

Sorry can't help myself, but how many cases have you tried? I know, I know it isn't pertinent to our discussion, but I felt compelled to ask. You don't have to answer and you probably won't based on your previous ignorance of my questions to you about your profession.

Many over the last 18 years.   Obama is the Al Sharpton of Lawyers.  No qualifications, worthless, incompetent, ignorant, and unable to perform up to speed.  That is why he went into ghetto organizing.  he could never hack it as a lawyer, on any level.   He was too busy chooming, doing coke and blow, hooking up w people at the bath house, etc.   

Would you ever hire him. 



Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on December 07, 2018, 05:52:48 AM
He didn't file for bankruptcy multiple times or brag about groping {sexually assaulting) women...  so get off that friggin Walmart store front quarter a ride high horse of yours.

Do you like admire Obuma ?
I can’t stand the Effeminate Ponce
Think he was an awful president & Joke as a world leader

Opinions vary. 


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 07, 2018, 09:35:30 AM
He didn't file for bankruptcy multiple times or brag about groping {sexually assaulting) women...  so get off that friggin Walmart store front quarter a ride high horse of yours.

Obama the clown was frequently broke and in credit card debt. 


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on December 10, 2018, 03:54:41 PM
 :D


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 13, 2018, 08:31:16 PM
Joaquin Castro says brother Julián is running for president in 2020
BY CHRIS MILLS RODRIGO - 12/13/18

Joaquín Castro said on Thursday that his brother, Julián Castro, would be running for president in 2020.

“I’ll speak on his behalf here, he’s going to run for president," Joaquín Castro told Stephen Colbert after the host egged Julián Castro on about announcing a potential bid for the White House.

Julián Castro smiled and pointed at his brother, but did not deny the statement.

Julián Castro, a former Housing and Urban Development Secretary, set up an exploratory committee on Wednesday to test out his possible candidacy.

"Americans are ready to climb out of this darkness. We're ready to keep our promises, and we're not going to wait. We're going to work," Castro had said in a video statement posted on a website for the committee.

"That's why I'm exploring a candidacy for president of the United States in 2020."

Julián Castro said he planned to make an official decision about running on Jan. 12.

If he were to run, Julián Castro would likely face a crowded field for the Democratic nomination. Likely contenders also include former Vice President Joe Biden, Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) and Cory Booker (D-N.J.), and Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D-Tx.).

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/421344-joaquin-castro-says-his-brother-julian-is-running-for-president-in-2020


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on December 15, 2018, 06:48:43 PM
 8)


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on December 15, 2018, 09:10:48 PM
Joe Biden would be the most "meh" candidate ever.

Another old Democrat.

They need to do better.