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Title: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 27, 2016, 10:20:50 AM
Not exactly a star-studded lineup. 

Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
BY NIALL STANAGE - 12/27/16

Democrats grappling with the shock of Hillary Clinton’s loss to Donald Trump are also beginning to turn their attention to 2020, and pondering who could defeat Trump as he vies for reelection.

Here are The Hill’s initial rankings of where the potential candidates stand.

1. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.)

How would the 2016 election have panned out had Warren challenged Clinton in the primary? That’s one of the great unknowables of Democratic politics. But now, there is little doubt that the Massachusetts senator is the leading contender for the 2020 nomination.

Warren, a former Harvard Law School professor, has been beloved by the left throughout her late-blooming political career, largely because of her no-punches-pulled attacks on banks and the financial industry. She got under Trump’s skin via Twitter during the 2016 campaign too.
The recent news that Warren will join the Senate Armed Services Committee in January has stoked speculation that she is looking to bolster her foreign policy and national security credentials in advance of a presidential run. Warren would be 71 by the time of the next election, but she is three years younger than Trump.

2. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)

Sanders came from semi-obscurity in the Senate to give Clinton a serious run for her money in the battle for the Democratic nomination this year.

He won 23 contests and amassed more than 13 million votes. He also fired the enthusiasm of young voters and progressives, two pillars of the Democratic base that Clinton struggled to charm.

The Vermonter’s focus on income inequality and his broader point that the system is rigged against working Americans resonated. Sanders’s main problem when it comes to a 2020 run could be his age. He will be 79 next Election Day. Still, Sanders might well be tempted to try one more time — especially if Warren stood aside.

3. Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.)

Booker raised eyebrows earlier this month when it emerged that he would join the Senate Foreign Relations Committee when the new Congress convenes. As with Warren and the Armed Services panel, his decision was interpreted as an effort to burnish his resume for a potential presidential run.

Booker is just 47, and he is one of only two African-Americans in the Senate for now. (That number will rise to three in January when California’s Kamala Harris will be sworn in.)

He is also one of the most media-savvy members in the upper chamber — a trait that has been apparent since the start of his career, when his first, failed bid to become mayor of Newark was captured in a sympathetic documentary, “Street Fight.” 

Booker is far from the most liberal member of the caucus. During the 2012 presidential campaign, he criticized an Obama campaign ad that hit Mitt Romney’s business record, insisting on NBC's "Meet the Press", “I’m not about to sit here and indict private equity.”

An optimistic view is that he could bridge the gap between the progressive and center-left strands of the party. Skeptics will question whether he is a little too corporate-friendly for the tastes of Democratic primary voters.

4. Sen. Amy Klobuchar (Minn.)

Klobuchar has already appeared on several shortlists of likely contenders for the nomination, and it’s not hard to see why.

The New Yorker called her, “popular, practical, appealing [and] progressive.” She is from a state where the currents of labor and progressivism run strong. But the no-nonsense, affable Klobuchar could also plausibly appeal to Rust Belt voters whom her party needs to win over.

One issue for Klobuchar right now is that she does not have a high profile outside of her native state and the Beltway. There is plenty of time to change that if she wants to run and win in 2020. But she could be eclipsed by higher-wattage candidates.

5. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y)

Gillibrand followed in Clinton’s footsteps when she replaced her as a New York senator in 2009. Could she do the same at the presidential level — but actually win the White House?

It’s certainly possible. Gillibrand’s profile has risen in tandem with her making the prevention of sexual assaults in the military a signature issue. Representing New York, she has easy access to the national media and to powerful Democratic fundraising networks.

But Gillibrand’s similarities with Clinton, superficial though they may be, could go against her. It’s just not clear Democrats would roll the dice again, as soon as 2020, on another prominent female nominee from New York.

Critics also charge that Gillibrand emphasized more centrist positions as a congresswoman from a somewhat conservative district than she does as a senator from a liberal state.

6. First lady Michelle Obama

If the first lady exhibited even a slight inclination to run, she would be ranked near the top of this list.

There is no figure in public life, with the possible exception of her husband, who has so strong a hold on liberal hearts and minds.

Obama has become more comfortable with her public role over the years. Her two major speeches during the 2016 campaign — one at the Democratic convention, another excoriating Trump for “hurtful, hateful language about women” — were among the most powerful delivered during the cycle.

The first lady insists that she won’t run, citing the effect such an effort would have on her two daughters among other factors. But Malia and Sasha Obama will be 22 and 19, respectively, by the time of the next election. When it comes to the first lady’s future plans, many Democrats still cling to the audacity of hope.

7. Gov. John Hickenlooper (Colo.)

Hickenlooper presides over a state that is considered a key battleground, even though it has become more solidly Democratic in recent years. Colorado has gone for the Democratic nominee in the past three presidential elections and Clinton won the state by five points.

Hickenlooper, who has a politically effective down-to-earth persona, could potentially boost the party’s appeal in the heartlands. He has enjoyed solid approval ratings during his time in office.

One problem? While his chances are talked up among Beltway pundits, he is almost unknown in the nation at large.

8. Sen. Chris Murphy (Conn.)

Murphy has come to the fore on the issue of gun control. He can speak with moral authority on the issue: In his state, a gunman killed 20 young children, as well as six adults, at Sandy Hook Elementary School in December 2012. President Obama has called that moment the worst day of his presidency.

Politically speaking, Murphy would need to display more policy breadth and heighten his national profile if he is to be a genuine contender. For the moment, he’s one to watch.

9. Vice President Joe Biden

The vice president could have definitively ruled himself out of the running, but hasn’t. He joked with reporters about the possibility earlier this month, and then sought to clarify by saying he had “no intention” of running.

Biden would clearly have loved to run in 2016, were it not for the fact that he was still grieving the loss of his son, Beau. Biden’s age is a real issue, however. He would be 77 by next Election Day. If he won, he would turn 78 before being inaugurated.

For all his political skills, his two previous runs for the presidency, in 1988 and 2008, ended in failure.

10. Gov. Andrew Cuomo (N.Y.)

On paper, Cuomo looks like a strong candidate. He is the governor of a huge, liberal state and hails from a well-established political family. Cuomo’s late father, Mario, served as governor of the Empire State for three terms.

No one doubts the younger Cuomo’s ambition, but whether he is the right fit for the times is a tougher question. In a party where the left is ascendant, he has positioned himself as a centrist foil to New York City’s liberal mayor, Bill de Blasio. It’s not clear what Cuomo’s power base would be for a primary fight.

11. Sen.-elect Kamala Harris (Calif.)

Harris is one of the bright spots for Democrats who are dismayed by their failure to retake the Senate. She will succeed the retiring Sen. Barbara Boxer in January.

Harris has been seen as a rising star in the party for some time, her fans including President Obama, who once praised her in imprudent terms.

Harris, a leading lawyer before shifting into politics, is the daughter of an Indian-American mother and a Jamaican-American father. It’s not clear she has any presidential ambitions and, if she ran in 2020, she would face criticism about her relative lack of political experience. But she would be as experienced as then-Sen. Obama was when he began his 2008 White House run.

12. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

Could she run again? It’s possible. Many people thought Clinton’s electoral ambitions had ended in 2008, with her devastating loss to Obama in the Democratic primary. That turned out not to be the case.

There is still a large, wealthy circle of Clinton loyalists, who would back any future run. But, even if she had the appetite for a 2020 bid, she would have enormous hurdles to overcome.

One of the biggest would be the question of how she lost the presidency to Donald Trump. Beyond the hardline Clintonistas, there aren’t many Democratic insiders who were wowed by her campaign. In a USA Today/Suffolk University poll released earlier this month, 62 percent of Democrats and independents said Clinton should not run again.

13. Former Gov. Deval Patrick (Mass.)

Patrick has considerable political skills and was once talked up as a potential inheritor of President Obama’s mantle. David Axelrod, one of the aides closest to Obama, worked with Patrick as well, and both Patrick and Obama adopted “Yes We Can!” as a campaign slogan.

But Patrick left office in 2015, and it’s just not clear whether he could — or would want to — come off the sidelines for 2020. He also joined Bain Capital, which is hardly the ideal launching pad for a quest to win over liberal activists.

14. Sen. Tim Kaine (Va.)

Kaine achieved a new national prominence when Clinton named him as her 2016 running mate. But his performance was a mixed bag.

The Virginia senator gave some energetic speeches on the campaign trail, defying his reputation for dullness. On the other hand, his showing in his sole debate with his counterpart, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, was uneven at best.

15. Oprah Winfrey

Trump proved how powerful a currency celebrity can be — and there may be no more trusted celebrity in America than Oprah. Having steered largely clear of partisan politics for most of her career, Winfrey became an enthusiastic backer of Obama when he looked a long shot to beat Hillary Clinton to the 2008 nomination.

Winfrey has said she “couldn’t breathe” after Trump won in November. She softened her stance later, but could she be tempted into a race to defeat the president-elect?

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/311436-top-15-democratic-presidential-candidates-in-2020
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: tonymctones on December 27, 2016, 04:41:10 PM
Kaine is the only person i think would be decent
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 28, 2016, 02:55:26 PM
Looks like another four years for Trump before he even started his first term..lol
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 28, 2016, 05:03:10 PM
What a pack of losers
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on December 28, 2016, 06:57:38 PM
Kaine is the only person i think would be decent

I cannot even agree with you here.  He's milktoast.  Another horrible Dem VP pick.  Up there with Leiberman.  Why in the holy
fuck didn't they give her someone brown?  Either a Latino or a brother.  Shitloads of Latino's in congress to pick from.  Deval Patrick
or Corey Booker would have been good choices as far as African Americans go. 

No, I don't expect you guys to like the idea but I truly believe a better VP could have impacted the outcome.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 28, 2016, 07:23:11 PM
I cannot even agree with you here.  He's milktoast.  Another horrible Dem VP pick.  Up there with Leiberman.  Why in the holy
fuck didn't they give her someone brown?  Either a Latino or a brother.  Shitloads of Latino's in congress to pick from.  Deval Patrick
or Corey Booker would have been good choices as far as African Americans go. 

No, I don't expect you guys to like the idea but I truly believe a better VP could have impacted the outcome.

It wouldn't have mattered.  People vote the top of the ticket.  That's what the numbers show.  A stellar VP pick does not save a crappy presidential nominee. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on December 28, 2016, 07:38:15 PM
I cannot even agree with you here.  He's milktoast.  Another horrible Dem VP pick.  Up there with Leiberman.  Why in the holy
fuck didn't they give her someone brown?  Either a Latino or a brother.  Shitloads of Latino's in congress to pick from.  Deval Patrick
or Corey Booker would have been good choices as far as African Americans go. 

No, I don't expect you guys to like the idea but I truly believe a better VP could have impacted the outcome.

Personally, I thought Kaine was picked because Virginia was thought to be a swing state that could have made the difference if Cankles had won a few more states.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on December 28, 2016, 07:55:16 PM
I am not a big Corey Booker fan, but put him on the ticket and the black, latino and young person turnout increases and favors Hillary.  Corey Booker has the ability
to connect with voters unlike Hillary and Kaine. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on December 28, 2016, 09:56:15 PM
You know it's bad when you have a fossil like Reid say it's like an old folks home...

Harry Reid Compares Dem 2020 Class to 'Old-Folks Home'

The class of favored Democratic candidates for 2020 looks like an "old-folks home," retiring Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told New York Magazine.

"It depends on who's running," Reid said after being asked if he would support a White House bid from Vice President Joe Biden. "It appears we're going to have an old-folks' home. We've got [Elizabeth] Warren, she'll be 71. Biden will be 78. Bernie [Sanders] will be 79."

Biden told CNN after a Senate session in early December he is "going to run in 2020" for president, but later clarified he is "not committing not to run."

"I'm not committing to anything," he said. "I learned a long time ago fate has a strange way of intervening."

In mid-December, a Public Policy Polling poll revealed:

57 percent of Democrats want a candidate under the age of 60.
77 percent want a candidate under 70.
8 percent want one in their 70's.
The same poll shows Biden leading in Democratic support, followed by Sanders, and then Warren.

"Biden and Sanders are the only folks we tested who are pretty universally well-known by Democratic voters," PPP wrote in their poll. "They are also pretty universally well-liked. Warren is the next best known, and the only other person we tested who is known to a majority of Democratic voters at this point is [Al] Franken."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Harry-Reid-Democrats-2020-Old-Folks-Home/2016/12/27/id/765757/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 28, 2016, 11:27:35 PM
Not exactly a star-studded lineup.  

Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
BY NIALL STANAGE - 12/27/16

Democrats grappling with the shock of Hillary Clinton’s loss to Donald Trump are also beginning to turn their attention to 2020, and pondering who could defeat Trump as he vies for reelection.

Here are The Hill’s initial rankings of where the potential candidates stand.

1. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.)

How would the 2016 election have panned out had Warren challenged Clinton in the primary? That’s one of the great unknowables of Democratic politics. But now, there is little doubt that the Massachusetts senator is the leading contender for the 2020 nomination.

Warren, a former Harvard Law School professor, has been beloved by the left throughout her late-blooming political career, largely because of her no-punches-pulled attacks on banks and the financial industry. She got under Trump’s skin via Twitter during the 2016 campaign too.
The recent news that Warren will join the Senate Armed Services Committee in January has stoked speculation that she is looking to bolster her foreign policy and national security credentials in advance of a presidential run. Warren would be 71 by the time of the next election, but she is three years younger than Trump.

2. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)

Sanders came from semi-obscurity in the Senate to give Clinton a serious run for her money in the battle for the Democratic nomination this year.

He won 23 contests and amassed more than 13 million votes. He also fired the enthusiasm of young voters and progressives, two pillars of the Democratic base that Clinton struggled to charm.

The Vermonter’s focus on income inequality and his broader point that the system is rigged against working Americans resonated. Sanders’s main problem when it comes to a 2020 run could be his age. He will be 79 next Election Day. Still, Sanders might well be tempted to try one more time — especially if Warren stood aside.

3. Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.)

Booker raised eyebrows earlier this month when it emerged that he would join the Senate Foreign Relations Committee when the new Congress convenes. As with Warren and the Armed Services panel, his decision was interpreted as an effort to burnish his resume for a potential presidential run.

Booker is just 47, and he is one of only two African-Americans in the Senate for now. (That number will rise to three in January when California’s Kamala Harris will be sworn in.)

He is also one of the most media-savvy members in the upper chamber — a trait that has been apparent since the start of his career, when his first, failed bid to become mayor of Newark was captured in a sympathetic documentary, “Street Fight.”  

Booker is far from the most liberal member of the caucus. During the 2012 presidential campaign, he criticized an Obama campaign ad that hit Mitt Romney’s business record, insisting on NBC's "Meet the Press", “I’m not about to sit here and indict private equity.”

An optimistic view is that he could bridge the gap between the progressive and center-left strands of the party. Skeptics will question whether he is a little too corporate-friendly for the tastes of Democratic primary voters.

4. Sen. Amy Klobuchar (Minn.)

Klobuchar has already appeared on several shortlists of likely contenders for the nomination, and it’s not hard to see why.

The New Yorker called her, “popular, practical, appealing [and] progressive.” She is from a state where the currents of labor and progressivism run strong. But the no-nonsense, affable Klobuchar could also plausibly appeal to Rust Belt voters whom her party needs to win over.

One issue for Klobuchar right now is that she does not have a high profile outside of her native state and the Beltway. There is plenty of time to change that if she wants to run and win in 2020. But she could be eclipsed by higher-wattage candidates.

5. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y)

Gillibrand followed in Clinton’s footsteps when she replaced her as a New York senator in 2009. Could she do the same at the presidential level — but actually win the White House?

It’s certainly possible. Gillibrand’s profile has risen in tandem with her making the prevention of sexual assaults in the military a signature issue. Representing New York, she has easy access to the national media and to powerful Democratic fundraising networks.

But Gillibrand’s similarities with Clinton, superficial though they may be, could go against her. It’s just not clear Democrats would roll the dice again, as soon as 2020, on another prominent female nominee from New York.

Critics also charge that Gillibrand emphasized more centrist positions as a congresswoman from a somewhat conservative district than she does as a senator from a liberal state.

6. First lady Michelle Obama

If the first lady exhibited even a slight inclination to run, she would be ranked near the top of this list.

There is no figure in public life, with the possible exception of her husband, who has so strong a hold on liberal hearts and minds.

Obama has become more comfortable with her public role over the years. Her two major speeches during the 2016 campaign — one at the Democratic convention, another excoriating Trump for “hurtful, hateful language about women” — were among the most powerful delivered during the cycle.

The first lady insists that she won’t run, citing the effect such an effort would have on her two daughters among other factors. But Malia and Sasha Obama will be 22 and 19, respectively, by the time of the next election. When it comes to the first lady’s future plans, many Democrats still cling to the audacity of hope.

7. Gov. John Hickenlooper (Colo.)

Hickenlooper presides over a state that is considered a key battleground, even though it has become more solidly Democratic in recent years. Colorado has gone for the Democratic nominee in the past three presidential elections and Clinton won the state by five points.

Hickenlooper, who has a politically effective down-to-earth persona, could potentially boost the party’s appeal in the heartlands. He has enjoyed solid approval ratings during his time in office.

One problem? While his chances are talked up among Beltway pundits, he is almost unknown in the nation at large.

8. Sen. Chris Murphy (Conn.)

Murphy has come to the fore on the issue of gun control. He can speak with moral authority on the issue: In his state, a gunman killed 20 young children, as well as six adults, at Sandy Hook Elementary School in December 2012. President Obama has called that moment the worst day of his presidency.

Politically speaking, Murphy would need to display more policy breadth and heighten his national profile if he is to be a genuine contender. For the moment, he’s one to watch.

9. Vice President Joe Biden

The vice president could have definitively ruled himself out of the running, but hasn’t. He joked with reporters about the possibility earlier this month, and then sought to clarify by saying he had “no intention” of running.

Biden would clearly have loved to run in 2016, were it not for the fact that he was still grieving the loss of his son, Beau. Biden’s age is a real issue, however. He would be 77 by next Election Day. If he won, he would turn 78 before being inaugurated.

For all his political skills, his two previous runs for the presidency, in 1988 and 2008, ended in failure.

10. Gov. Andrew Cuomo (N.Y.)

On paper, Cuomo looks like a strong candidate. He is the governor of a huge, liberal state and hails from a well-established political family. Cuomo’s late father, Mario, served as governor of the Empire State for three terms.

No one doubts the younger Cuomo’s ambition, but whether he is the right fit for the times is a tougher question. In a party where the left is ascendant, he has positioned himself as a centrist foil to New York City’s liberal mayor, Bill de Blasio. It’s not clear what Cuomo’s power base would be for a primary fight.

11. Sen.-elect Kamala Harris (Calif.)

Harris is one of the bright spots for Democrats who are dismayed by their failure to retake the Senate. She will succeed the retiring Sen. Barbara Boxer in January.

Harris has been seen as a rising star in the party for some time, her fans including President Obama, who once praised her in imprudent terms.

Harris, a leading lawyer before shifting into politics, is the daughter of an Indian-American mother and a Jamaican-American father. It’s not clear she has any presidential ambitions and, if she ran in 2020, she would face criticism about her relative lack of political experience. But she would be as experienced as then-Sen. Obama was when he began his 2008 White House run.

12. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

Could she run again? It’s possible. Many people thought Clinton’s electoral ambitions had ended in 2008, with her devastating loss to Obama in the Democratic primary. That turned out not to be the case.

There is still a large, wealthy circle of Clinton loyalists, who would back any future run. But, even if she had the appetite for a 2020 bid, she would have enormous hurdles to overcome.

One of the biggest would be the question of how she lost the presidency to Donald Trump. Beyond the hardline Clintonistas, there aren’t many Democratic insiders who were wowed by her campaign. In a USA Today/Suffolk University poll released earlier this month, 62 percent of Democrats and independents said Clinton should not run again.

13. Former Gov. Deval Patrick (Mass.)

Patrick has considerable political skills and was once talked up as a potential inheritor of President Obama’s mantle. David Axelrod, one of the aides closest to Obama, worked with Patrick as well, and both Patrick and Obama adopted “Yes We Can!” as a campaign slogan.

But Patrick left office in 2015, and it’s just not clear whether he could — or would want to — come off the sidelines for 2020. He also joined Bain Capital, which is hardly the ideal launching pad for a quest to win over liberal activists.

14. Sen. Tim Kaine (Va.)

Kaine achieved a new national prominence when Clinton named him as her 2016 running mate. But his performance was a mixed bag.

The Virginia senator gave some energetic speeches on the campaign trail, defying his reputation for dullness. On the other hand, his showing in his sole debate with his counterpart, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, was uneven at best.

15. Oprah Winfrey

Trump proved how powerful a currency celebrity can be — and there may be no more trusted celebrity in America than Oprah. Having steered largely clear of partisan politics for most of her career, Winfrey became an enthusiastic backer of Obama when he looked a long shot to beat Hillary Clinton to the 2008 nomination.

Winfrey has said she “couldn’t breathe” after Trump won in November. She softened her stance later, but could she be tempted into a race to defeat the president-elect?

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/311436-top-15-democratic-presidential-candidates-in-2020

Some of the folks on this list are so unlikely to run much less win that it's downright hysterically funny. Michelle Obama, as best as I know, has no applicable qualifications. I honestly don't think having been the First Lady for 8 years is enough to qualify her for the office. Oprah being on this list blew me away. She's well liked and has a record for having done good deeds, like giving away Pontiac's shortly before they became extinct. She represents not only women but African Americans and by extension, other minorities. However having no other qualifications for the Presidency, I can't believe she could get elected. But then, I thought the same thing about Trump and I was obviously wrong. Experience and qualifications apparently don't mean that much to the voting public.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: tonymctones on December 29, 2016, 05:50:09 AM
I cannot even agree with you here.  He's milktoast.  Another horrible Dem VP pick.  Up there with Leiberman.  Why in the holy
fuck didn't they give her someone brown?  Either a Latino or a brother.  Shitloads of Latino's in congress to pick from.  Deval Patrick
or Corey Booker would have been good choices as far as African Americans go. 

No, I don't expect you guys to like the idea but I truly believe a better VP could have impacted the outcome.
More identity politics? That's why trump was so popular bc you've had years and years of identity politics. Given I don't know much about him but having seen the debate he seems more center and a person capable of talking about issues competently.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 29, 2016, 07:07:40 AM
Please let it be Elizabeth Warren. Please if there is a god. Please.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on December 29, 2016, 08:25:32 AM
Please let it be Elizabeth Warren. Please if there is a god. Please.

How fun would that be?!  :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on December 29, 2016, 12:48:14 PM


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 01, 2017, 04:50:21 PM
U.S. News: Kamala Harris ‘Inevitable’ 2020 Democratic Nominee
(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/02/Kamala-Harris-Associated-Press-640x480.jpg)
Kamala Harris (Jose Luis Magana / Associated Press)Jose Luis Magana / Associated Press
by JOEL B. POLLAK
1 Dec 2017

U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) is the “inevitable” Democratic Party nominee for President of the United States in 2020, according to U.S. News & World Report senior politics writer David Catanese, citing political oddsmakers.
The first-term junior Senator, Catanese writes, is the “female Obama”:

At a time when the Democratic Party remains adrift in the political wilderness, still painfully sorting out its last national election loss while simultaneously trying to turn the page anew, Harris has vaulted over a fleet of venerable talent to bear the torch of former President Barack Obama’s legacy for the next generation.

In his lengthy profile, Catenese also highlights one facet of Harris’s biography that is relevant to the current debate over sex and politics: she once dated then-California State Assembly Speaker Willie Brown, who gave her a car and also helped her gain a foothold in California politics. As the SF Weekly noted in 2003: “Harris acknowledges that she benefited from her relationship with Brown, but insists there was nothing improper about it.”

Since then, Harris has moved up through the ranks, fighting a tough election to become the state’s Attorney General, and facing somewhat easier contest for the U.S. Senate seat, when the state’s Bay Area liberal establishment and Barack Obama himself backed her campaign against the upstart, Southern California-based, Latino-focused effort of then- U.S. Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA).

Since arriving Washington, Harris has used her confrontations with Republicans — usually triggered by her refusal to let witnesses speak at committee hearings — to create viral YouTube videos that help drive fundraising. She is known to be tapping into Hillary Clinton’s donor network, has also become an big fundraiser for other candidates.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/12/01/u-s-news-kamala-harris-inevitable-2020-democratic-nominee/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on December 02, 2017, 10:21:34 AM
U.S. News: Kamala Harris ‘Inevitable’ 2020 Democratic Nominee
(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/02/Kamala-Harris-Associated-Press-640x480.jpg)
Kamala Harris (Jose Luis Magana / Associated Press)Jose Luis Magana / Associated Press
by JOEL B. POLLAK
1 Dec 2017

U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) is the “inevitable” Democratic Party nominee for President of the United States in 2020, according to U.S. News & World Report senior politics writer David Catanese, citing political oddsmakers.
The first-term junior Senator, Catanese writes, is the “female Obama”:

At a time when the Democratic Party remains adrift in the political wilderness, still painfully sorting out its last national election loss while simultaneously trying to turn the page anew, Harris has vaulted over a fleet of venerable talent to bear the torch of former President Barack Obama’s legacy for the next generation.

In his lengthy profile, Catenese also highlights one facet of Harris’s biography that is relevant to the current debate over sex and politics: she once dated then-California State Assembly Speaker Willie Brown, who gave her a car and also helped her gain a foothold in California politics. As the SF Weekly noted in 2003: “Harris acknowledges that she benefited from her relationship with Brown, but insists there was nothing improper about it.”

Since then, Harris has moved up through the ranks, fighting a tough election to become the state’s Attorney General, and facing somewhat easier contest for the U.S. Senate seat, when the state’s Bay Area liberal establishment and Barack Obama himself backed her campaign against the upstart, Southern California-based, Latino-focused effort of then- U.S. Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA).

Since arriving Washington, Harris has used her confrontations with Republicans — usually triggered by her refusal to let witnesses speak at committee hearings — to create viral YouTube videos that help drive fundraising. She is known to be tapping into Hillary Clinton’s donor network, has also become an big fundraiser for other candidates.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/12/01/u-s-news-kamala-harris-inevitable-2020-democratic-nominee/

Probably has a stinky pussy.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: George Whorewell on December 02, 2017, 11:19:18 AM
6. First lady Michelle Obama

^ This
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on December 28, 2017, 06:00:59 PM
Probably has a stinky pussy.

And smokes Kool Milds.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on December 28, 2017, 06:13:27 PM
Are they so dumb that they are going to try to force a woman to run so they can show how "diverse" and "pc" they are?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 28, 2017, 06:55:20 PM
Looks like another four years for Trump before he even started his first term..lol

Just saying
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 29, 2017, 12:57:31 AM
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I'd vote for this Kamala, not the impostor.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on December 29, 2017, 03:33:29 AM
Not exactly a star-studded lineup. 

Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
BY NIALL STANAGE - 12/27/16

Democrats grappling with the shock of Hillary Clinton’s loss to Donald Trump are also beginning to turn their attention to 2020, and pondering who could defeat Trump as he vies for reelection.

Here are The Hill’s initial rankings of where the potential candidates stand.

1. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.)

How would the 2016 election have panned out had Warren challenged Clinton in the primary? That’s one of the great unknowables of Democratic politics. But now, there is little doubt that the Massachusetts senator is the leading contender for the 2020 nomination.

Warren, a former Harvard Law School professor, has been beloved by the left throughout her late-blooming political career, largely because of her no-punches-pulled attacks on banks and the financial industry. She got under Trump’s skin via Twitter during the 2016 campaign too.
The recent news that Warren will join the Senate Armed Services Committee in January has stoked speculation that she is looking to bolster her foreign policy and national security credentials in advance of a presidential run. Warren would be 71 by the time of the next election, but she is three years younger than Trump.

2. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)

Sanders came from semi-obscurity in the Senate to give Clinton a serious run for her money in the battle for the Democratic nomination this year.

He won 23 contests and amassed more than 13 million votes. He also fired the enthusiasm of young voters and progressives, two pillars of the Democratic base that Clinton struggled to charm.

The Vermonter’s focus on income inequality and his broader point that the system is rigged against working Americans resonated. Sanders’s main problem when it comes to a 2020 run could be his age. He will be 79 next Election Day. Still, Sanders might well be tempted to try one more time — especially if Warren stood aside.

3. Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.)

Booker raised eyebrows earlier this month when it emerged that he would join the Senate Foreign Relations Committee when the new Congress convenes. As with Warren and the Armed Services panel, his decision was interpreted as an effort to burnish his resume for a potential presidential run.

Booker is just 47, and he is one of only two African-Americans in the Senate for now. (That number will rise to three in January when California’s Kamala Harris will be sworn in.)

He is also one of the most media-savvy members in the upper chamber — a trait that has been apparent since the start of his career, when his first, failed bid to become mayor of Newark was captured in a sympathetic documentary, “Street Fight.” 

Booker is far from the most liberal member of the caucus. During the 2012 presidential campaign, he criticized an Obama campaign ad that hit Mitt Romney’s business record, insisting on NBC's "Meet the Press", “I’m not about to sit here and indict private equity.”

An optimistic view is that he could bridge the gap between the progressive and center-left strands of the party. Skeptics will question whether he is a little too corporate-friendly for the tastes of Democratic primary voters.

4. Sen. Amy Klobuchar (Minn.)

Klobuchar has already appeared on several shortlists of likely contenders for the nomination, and it’s not hard to see why.

The New Yorker called her, “popular, practical, appealing [and] progressive.” She is from a state where the currents of labor and progressivism run strong. But the no-nonsense, affable Klobuchar could also plausibly appeal to Rust Belt voters whom her party needs to win over.

One issue for Klobuchar right now is that she does not have a high profile outside of her native state and the Beltway. There is plenty of time to change that if she wants to run and win in 2020. But she could be eclipsed by higher-wattage candidates.

5. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y)

Gillibrand followed in Clinton’s footsteps when she replaced her as a New York senator in 2009. Could she do the same at the presidential level — but actually win the White House?

It’s certainly possible. Gillibrand’s profile has risen in tandem with her making the prevention of sexual assaults in the military a signature issue. Representing New York, she has easy access to the national media and to powerful Democratic fundraising networks.

But Gillibrand’s similarities with Clinton, superficial though they may be, could go against her. It’s just not clear Democrats would roll the dice again, as soon as 2020, on another prominent female nominee from New York.

Critics also charge that Gillibrand emphasized more centrist positions as a congresswoman from a somewhat conservative district than she does as a senator from a liberal state.

6. First lady Michelle Obama

If the first lady exhibited even a slight inclination to run, she would be ranked near the top of this list.

There is no figure in public life, with the possible exception of her husband, who has so strong a hold on liberal hearts and minds.

Obama has become more comfortable with her public role over the years. Her two major speeches during the 2016 campaign — one at the Democratic convention, another excoriating Trump for “hurtful, hateful language about women” — were among the most powerful delivered during the cycle.

The first lady insists that she won’t run, citing the effect such an effort would have on her two daughters among other factors. But Malia and Sasha Obama will be 22 and 19, respectively, by the time of the next election. When it comes to the first lady’s future plans, many Democrats still cling to the audacity of hope.

7. Gov. John Hickenlooper (Colo.)

Hickenlooper presides over a state that is considered a key battleground, even though it has become more solidly Democratic in recent years. Colorado has gone for the Democratic nominee in the past three presidential elections and Clinton won the state by five points.

Hickenlooper, who has a politically effective down-to-earth persona, could potentially boost the party’s appeal in the heartlands. He has enjoyed solid approval ratings during his time in office.

One problem? While his chances are talked up among Beltway pundits, he is almost unknown in the nation at large.

8. Sen. Chris Murphy (Conn.)

Murphy has come to the fore on the issue of gun control. He can speak with moral authority on the issue: In his state, a gunman killed 20 young children, as well as six adults, at Sandy Hook Elementary School in December 2012. President Obama has called that moment the worst day of his presidency.

Politically speaking, Murphy would need to display more policy breadth and heighten his national profile if he is to be a genuine contender. For the moment, he’s one to watch.

9. Vice President Joe Biden

The vice president could have definitively ruled himself out of the running, but hasn’t. He joked with reporters about the possibility earlier this month, and then sought to clarify by saying he had “no intention” of running.

Biden would clearly have loved to run in 2016, were it not for the fact that he was still grieving the loss of his son, Beau. Biden’s age is a real issue, however. He would be 77 by next Election Day. If he won, he would turn 78 before being inaugurated.

For all his political skills, his two previous runs for the presidency, in 1988 and 2008, ended in failure.

10. Gov. Andrew Cuomo (N.Y.)

On paper, Cuomo looks like a strong candidate. He is the governor of a huge, liberal state and hails from a well-established political family. Cuomo’s late father, Mario, served as governor of the Empire State for three terms.

No one doubts the younger Cuomo’s ambition, but whether he is the right fit for the times is a tougher question. In a party where the left is ascendant, he has positioned himself as a centrist foil to New York City’s liberal mayor, Bill de Blasio. It’s not clear what Cuomo’s power base would be for a primary fight.

11. Sen.-elect Kamala Harris (Calif.)

Harris is one of the bright spots for Democrats who are dismayed by their failure to retake the Senate. She will succeed the retiring Sen. Barbara Boxer in January.

Harris has been seen as a rising star in the party for some time, her fans including President Obama, who once praised her in imprudent terms.

Harris, a leading lawyer before shifting into politics, is the daughter of an Indian-American mother and a Jamaican-American father. It’s not clear she has any presidential ambitions and, if she ran in 2020, she would face criticism about her relative lack of political experience. But she would be as experienced as then-Sen. Obama was when he began his 2008 White House run.

12. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

Could she run again? It’s possible. Many people thought Clinton’s electoral ambitions had ended in 2008, with her devastating loss to Obama in the Democratic primary. That turned out not to be the case.

There is still a large, wealthy circle of Clinton loyalists, who would back any future run. But, even if she had the appetite for a 2020 bid, she would have enormous hurdles to overcome.

One of the biggest would be the question of how she lost the presidency to Donald Trump. Beyond the hardline Clintonistas, there aren’t many Democratic insiders who were wowed by her campaign. In a USA Today/Suffolk University poll released earlier this month, 62 percent of Democrats and independents said Clinton should not run again.

13. Former Gov. Deval Patrick (Mass.)

Patrick has considerable political skills and was once talked up as a potential inheritor of President Obama’s mantle. David Axelrod, one of the aides closest to Obama, worked with Patrick as well, and both Patrick and Obama adopted “Yes We Can!” as a campaign slogan.

But Patrick left office in 2015, and it’s just not clear whether he could — or would want to — come off the sidelines for 2020. He also joined Bain Capital, which is hardly the ideal launching pad for a quest to win over liberal activists.

14. Sen. Tim Kaine (Va.)

Kaine achieved a new national prominence when Clinton named him as her 2016 running mate. But his performance was a mixed bag.

The Virginia senator gave some energetic speeches on the campaign trail, defying his reputation for dullness. On the other hand, his showing in his sole debate with his counterpart, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, was uneven at best.

15. Oprah Winfrey

Trump proved how powerful a currency celebrity can be — and there may be no more trusted celebrity in America than Oprah. Having steered largely clear of partisan politics for most of her career, Winfrey became an enthusiastic backer of Obama when he looked a long shot to beat Hillary Clinton to the 2008 nomination.

Winfrey has said she “couldn’t breathe” after Trump won in November. She softened her stance later, but could she be tempted into a race to defeat the president-elect?

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/311436-top-15-democratic-presidential-candidates-in-2020

Most of them white, rich, old people, from the party of the poor, young minorities. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 29, 2017, 04:58:53 AM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 29, 2017, 05:03:08 AM
Most of them white, rich, old people, from the party of the poor, young minorities. 

On the liberal sites like Huffington Post and Daily Kos they patronize blacks to a pathological extent. This is why.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 22, 2018, 03:58:55 PM
Kamala Harris Blasts Re-opening of Government After No Immigration Deal
by JOEL B. POLLAK
22 Jan 2018

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA), a rising potential presidential contender in 2020, voted against a bill to re-open the federal government on Monday, arguing that the budget should have done more to protect illegal aliens.
In a statement, the junior Senator from California and rising Democratic star said (via CNN congressional correspondent Phil Mattingly):

Our government made a promise to our Dreamers and it is long past time that we kept that promise. These are young people who are Americans in every respect except on paper. They have been waiting far too long to live securely in the only place they have ever called home

The Majority Leader’s comments last night fell far short of the ironclad guarantee I needed to support a stopgap spending bill. I refuse to put the lives of nearly 700,000 young people in the hands of someone who has repeatedly gone back on his word. I will do everything in my power to continue to protect Dreamers from deportation.

It is also time that we stop governing from crisis to crisis and ensure that priorities critical to Californians are funded for the future. I will continue to work with my colleagues to find a long-term solution that supports members of our military and national security priorities, funds children’s health insurance and community health centers, provides resources for those recovering from disasters like the California wildfires, and guarantees a future for young immigrants who are as American as all of us.

The bill to fund the government not only passed the 60-vote filibuster threshold, but also won 80 votes (to 18 against), as more than two dozen Democrats changed their votes.

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-NY) suffered an embarrassing capitulation after the government was closed for just two days, receiving nothing more from Republican leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) than a “commitment” to vote on legalizing the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program — which the majority had already committed to doing anyway.

The outcome was a rare setback for Democrats in shutdown situations, when they typically hold the other hand. Schumer has been goading Republicans to shut down the government ever since they regained control of the House in the 2010 elections, and apparently believed — before today — that deny such shutdown would benefit his party.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/01/22/kamala-harris-no-end-shutdown-dreamers-daca/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 22, 2018, 04:07:14 PM
2020 Democratic Frontrunners Vote To Keep Government Shut Down
BENNY JOHNSON
Reporter At Large
01/22/2018

Eighty-one senators voted to reopen the federal government Monday afternoon, handing President Trump and the Republicans a big win. Democrats in the Senate let the government shut down the over Republicans not including permanent legalization for illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as minors in a spending bill.

The government shutdown withheld payment for armed service members and military families whose sons or daughters died in combat. The blame for the shutdown was swiftly turning on the Democrats, and their leaders agreed to a deal to open the government on Monday

However, eighteen senators voted to continue to keep the government closed. A large portion of that group has 2020 aspirations. Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren all voted to continue the shutdown. The odds-makers all list the above democrats as favorites to run in 2020.

The full list of senators who voted ‘No’ on the bill passage:

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After the vote to reopen, Trump said in a statement:

I am pleased that Democrats in Congress have come to their senses and are now willing to fund our great military, border patrol, first responders, and insurance for vulnerable children. As I have always said, once the Government is funded, my Administration will work toward solving the problem of very unfair illegal immigration. We will make a long-term deal on immigration if, and only if, it is good for our country.

Look for this vote to come up in 2020.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/22/2020-democratic-frontrunners-vote-to-keep-government-shut-down/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: mazrim on January 22, 2018, 06:42:55 PM
Paul and Lee voting no as well? Must still be a high spending "budget"? They are usually levelheaded.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: mazrim on January 22, 2018, 06:52:01 PM
Yep, just read Paul's explanation. That guy sticks to what he believes that's for sure. Has a backbone.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 07, 2018, 03:49:40 PM
Biden bashes Trump as 'bully,' touts liberal credentials amid 2020 speculation
By Alex Pappas   | Fox News

Former Vice President Joe Biden on Wednesday described President Trump as the “neighborhood bully” while touting his own liberal credentials during a speech to Democratic lawmakers that appeared aimed at keeping his foot in the door for a potential 2020 run for president.

“Since when do we give hate safe harbor in America?” Biden said in a speech to Democrats at the Capitol. “Since when are we leaving so many people behind? Guys, this president is doing great damage.”

The former Democratic senator and vice president under former President Barack Obama accused Trump of pushing a “closed and clannish nationalism” and an “ugly and phony populism.” He also called out the president for his trademark derogatory nicknames to political critics.

“Don’t act like the neighborhood bully, talking down to ‘Little so and so’ or ‘Fat so and so,’” Biden said. “I mean, my God. He’s the president of the United States of America.”

2020 DEMS PLAY TO THE BASE BY VOTING TO EXTEND GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN

He accused Trump of viewing everything through a selfish lens.

“We have a president who is consumed by his political survival,” Biden said. “It’s the beginning, the middle and the end. Everything is run through the filter of how it affects Donald Trump in Donald Trump’s mind.”

“Since when do we give hate safe harbor in America? Since when are we leaving so many people behind? Guys, this president is doing great damage.”
- Joe Biden
Biden also accused Trump of “shredding some of our core values” and cited the president’s attacks on the press.

“I mean there’s an all-out attack on the guys wearing the striped shirts: the press and the courts,” he said. “It is a technique that’s been used repeatedly throughout history by those who want to clear the field so they’re in a position to be able to abuse power.”

Biden unsuccessfully sought the Democratic nomination for president in 1988 and 2008 but opted against a campaign in 2016. The 75-year-old, who has not ruled out a run in 2020, called for Democrats “to remain united as a party, and not be divided.”

“I will challenge any of you to put my progressive credentials of 36 years in the Senate up against any of you,” Biden said. “Any of you. I’ll also suggest that my commitment to growth of the middle class is as strong as any of you.”

Biden also pointed out how he and Obama won in places that Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton lost during the 2016 election.

“By the way, you know, all these so-called racists who voted against us last time out?” Biden asked, telling Democrats to “remember a black man and an Irish Catholic kid” won in many of the places where Trump beat Clinton.

“But for 72,000 votes, we wouldn’t be having this discussion,” he said. “72,000 votes.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/07/biden-bashes-trump-as-bully-touts-liberal-credentials-amid-2020-speculation.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 12, 2018, 04:24:55 PM
If this uncharismatic extremist becomes the nominee, they might as well start planning Trump's 2020 inauguration already. 

Kamala Harris: ‘I Support’ Oakland Mayor Who Helped Criminal Illegal Aliens Evade Deportation ‘100 Percent’
Libby-Schaaf-Kamala HarrisAP Photos
by JOHN BINDER
10 Mar 2018
Washington, D.C.

Senator and potential 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris (D-CA) says she “100 percent” supports Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf’s (D) decision to help criminal illegal aliens evade deportation ahead of a raid by federal immigration officials.

During a fundraiser for the YMCA’s “Y for Youth Luncheon,” Harris defended Schaaf, who made national headlines last month when she warned criminal illegal aliens of a coming raid in Oakland by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency.
 
Subsequently, Schaaf helped many criminal illegal aliens with sex crime convictions, drunk driving convictions, and armed robbery convictions escape arrest and deportation.

Harris defended Schaaf, saying “I think Mayor Schaaf is doing exactly what she believes is in the best interest of her community, and I support that 100 percent,” according to the San Francisco Chronicle. The liberal senator said the Trump administration was attempting to “roll back the clock” by enforcing federal immigration laws.

“This administration is using our tax dollars to engage in a political game instead of what’s in the best interest of Californians,” Harris said.

Harris’s defense of Schaaf’s warning to criminal illegal aliens is at odds with a plurality of Americans who say that Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ Department of Justice (DOJ) should prosecute Schaaf for obstruction of justice.

A plurality of swing voters, about 40 percent, agreed that Schaaf should be prosecuted for warning criminal illegal aliens ahead of an ICE raid.

Most recently, Breitbart News exclusively reported how the sanctuary state of California is likely responsible for at least 5,000 crimes that were committed by criminal illegal aliens who were released by the state rather than being handed over to ICE agents for deportation.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/10/kamala-harris-i-support-oakland-mayor-who-helped-criminal-illegal-aliens-evade-deportation-100-percent/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 12, 2018, 04:26:04 PM
Good.  But I would like the see the results of a DNA test. 

Warren: No to White House bid, DNA test; says heritage 'part of who I am'
Joseph Weber By Joseph Weber   | Fox News

Some on the left and right are calling on Senator Elizabeth Warren to take a DNA test to straighten out questions about Native American heritage; radio host Howie Carr weighs in.

Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren on Sunday ruled out a 2020 presidential run and taking a DNA test to prove Native American ancestry -- an issue that has nagged her Senate campaigns and would almost certainly create problems in a White House bid.

“I’m not running for president,” Warren, a champion of the Democratic Party’s progressive wing, told “Fox News Sunday.”

When asked Sunday whether she’d agree to calls for genetic testing to resolve the heritage controversy, Warren launched into a family history, as purportedly told by her parents and grandparents, before saying, “It’s a part of who I am, and no one’s ever going to take that away.”

Warren, who is seeking a second Senate term this year, has been accused of saying she is of Native American heritage to help in securing jobs, including one as a Harvard law professor.

She has acknowledged identifying as a minority, but denies using such status to help advance her career.

President Trump has repeatedly called Warren, a Wall Street critic and potential White House rival, “Pocahontas,” a notable American Indian woman in colonial history, to highlight the controversy.

“Let me tell you a little bit about my family,” Warren said Sunday. “My mom and dad were born and raised out in Oklahoma, and my daddy was in his teens when he fell in love with my mother.

“She was a beautiful girl who played the piano. And he was head over heels in love with her and wanted to marry her. And his family was bitterly opposed to that because she was part Native American.

“And eventually my parents eloped and they survived the Great Depression, they survived The Dust Bowl. They went through a lot of hard times. They raised three boys, my older brothers, all of whom went off to the military.

"They raised me. They knocked around and it was tough but they hung together. They hung together for 63 years. I know who I am because of what my mother and my father told me, what my grandmother and my grandfather told me, what all my aunts and uncles told me and my brothers.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/11/warren-no-to-white-house-bid-dna-test-says-heritage-part-who-am.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 14, 2018, 09:57:33 AM
Cherokee genealogist casts doubt on Elizabeth Warren's story of parents' elopement
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/14/cherokee-genealogist-casts-doubt-on-elizabeth-warrens-story-parents-elopement.html

But The Washington Times reported that Cherokee genealogist Twila Barnes wrote in a 2016 blog that the story doesn't make sense. Barnes, who has researched Warren's family and found no evidence of Native American ancestry, researched the marriage of Pauline Reed and Donald Herring and found it appeared to be an ordinary wedding.

“The problem with Warren’s story is that none of the evidence supports it,” Barnes wrote. “Her genealogy shows no indication of Cherokee ancestry. Her parents’ wedding doesn’t resemble an elopement. And additional evidence doesn’t show any indication of her Herring grandparents being Indian haters.”

The wedding was performed by a prominent Methodist clergyman, not a justice of the peace, Barnes found. She also noted that a detailed wedding announcement was posted in the local newspaper in Wetumka, Oklahoma.

“If Ms. Warren’s parents eloped due to her mother being ‘Cherokee and Delaware’ and it was such a disgrace, why did they rush back to Wetumka the same day they were married and proudly announce it to everyone?” asked Ms. Barnes. “If there was shame associated with the marriage and it caused so many problems, why was it happily announced in the local paper?”

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: residue on March 14, 2018, 11:00:01 AM
I am not a big Corey Booker fan, but put him on the ticket and the black, latino and young person turnout increases and favors Hillary.  Corey Booker has the ability
to connect with voters unlike Hillary and Kaine. 

didn't he run into a burning building or something?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on March 14, 2018, 06:47:43 PM
Cherokee genealogist casts doubt on Elizabeth Warren's story of parents' elopement
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/14/cherokee-genealogist-casts-doubt-on-elizabeth-warrens-story-parents-elopement.html

But The Washington Times reported that Cherokee genealogist Twila Barnes wrote in a 2016 blog that the story doesn't make sense. Barnes, who has researched Warren's family and found no evidence of Native American ancestry, researched the marriage of Pauline Reed and Donald Herring and found it appeared to be an ordinary wedding.

“The problem with Warren’s story is that none of the evidence supports it,” Barnes wrote. “Her genealogy shows no indication of Cherokee ancestry. Her parents’ wedding doesn’t resemble an elopement. And additional evidence doesn’t show any indication of her Herring grandparents being Indian haters.”

The wedding was performed by a prominent Methodist clergyman, not a justice of the peace, Barnes found. She also noted that a detailed wedding announcement was posted in the local newspaper in Wetumka, Oklahoma.

“If Ms. Warren’s parents eloped due to her mother being ‘Cherokee and Delaware’ and it was such a disgrace, why did they rush back to Wetumka the same day they were married and proudly announce it to everyone?” asked Ms. Barnes. “If there was shame associated with the marriage and it caused so many problems, why was it happily announced in the local paper?”



Twila ... there's a name that brings back GetBig memories.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 21, 2018, 09:16:54 PM
First article I've ever read about this guy.  I have a friend in New Orleans who thinks he is terrible.  Interested to see what he brings to the table. 

The Southern Democrat who could shake up the 2020 field
‘I think he’s a remarkable talent … on the Bill Clinton, Barack Obama scale,’ says one admirer of New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu.
By EDWARD-ISAAC DOVERE 03/21/2018
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Mitch Landrieu is pictured. | Getty Images

Mitch Landrieu is spending his final year as mayor serving as president of the U.S. Conference of Mayors, traveling the country as he leads a bipartisan rejection of the Trump administration‘s policies on infrastructure, immigration, health care and more. | Sean Gardner/Getty Images

Mitch Landrieu isn’t, for the moment, getting ready to run for president. But that’s not stopping the Democrat who led the rebuilding of New Orleans from speaking out against institutional racism and what he calls the “nightmare loop” that links Donald Trump to David Duke.

With a media tour for his new book, “In the Shadow of Statues” (out Tuesday), and after headlining this month’s media-fest Gridiron Dinner in Washington, Landrieu knows he’s kept people talking. Monday night on “The Daily Show,” he smiled through a long burst of applause when Trevor Noah pitched him on 2020. Ridiculous as he and everyone around him knows it is to think about a New Orleans mayor making a serious bid for the White House, they also see the unique profile he’d have in a huge Democratic field concentrated on the coasts — the white Southern liberal who loves wrestling and musical theater, and looks like he could blend right in at a Trump rally.

Barack Obama has taken note of Landrieu’s record as mayor and a speech he gave last year on removing Confederate monuments. The former president has said privately that he could see the appeal of a bald white guy from Louisiana talking up progressive politics in a smooth Southern accent. Though Obama is far from signing up, some notable players in his orbit are daydreaming of finding the next unlikely superstar and making it happen.

Landrieu sees the situation. He says he just doesn’t necessarily see himself as the solution.

“The country’s in a dark hour. My commitment has always been to do what I can to help,” Landrieu said. “You never say never. At the moment, I can’t see a pathway.“

And he knows he’s laying out what sounds like a platform. The subtitle of his book, a frank account of racism in America, is “A White Southerner Confronts History.” It includes tough words about the failures of politics to stop discrimination. In one passage, Landrieu points out that on the campaign trail, Ronald Reagan condemned the murders of civil rights workers, but that he then approved a budget that served pickled relish as a vegetable in poorer public schools.

He also knows, according to a person close to him, that running statewide in red Louisiana would likely be impossible after some of the decisions he’s made and constituencies he’s catered to as a strongly Democratic mayor. Also that his father, former New Orleans Mayor Moon Landrieu, sometimes regrets not having run for president himself.

Landrieu hasn’t raised money or hired any consultants or conspicuously campaign-minded aides. But he does have his prominent cheerleaders with local roots, like Louisiana native and former interim Democratic National Committee chair Donna Brazile, who said he’d be “a fantastic candidate.”

“We all know had Hillary Clinton won, Mitch Landrieu would have been a candidate for several Cabinet appointments,” Brazile said, stressing that she wasn’t making an endorsement. “But given the circumstances, I think it’s important to keep his eyes open and see which way the wind will blow in 2020.”

“It’s one thing to run for president, and it’s another thing for people to take you seriously. He clearly falls into the second category,” said James Carville, the Clinton political guru. “I think he’s a remarkable talent ... on the Bill Clinton, Barack Obama scale. The more people see him, the more people will like him.”

They’re not the only ones.

“I think he could have a really strong appeal as somebody who would run entirely outside of the Washington, D.C., ecosystem, and I think there’s a real hunger for that among Democrats. He fits that bill, and others do as well,” said Mitch Stewart, Obama’s Iowa field director in 2008 and battleground states director in 2012. “In a field of 15 to 20 candidates, in the first couple of states, you don’t need to get 50 percent. Can your posture, can your values as a candidate — would 15 to 20 percent be enough to prove viability? The calculus is different than in 2008 and 2016.”

Stewart added, “He would be one of the few candidates who I think could appeal to the African-American community and the white working class.”

In 2010, after moving his family back to New Orleans and feeling distraught at the state of the city, Carville talked Landrieu into a late entry into the mayor’s race with a poll that showed he’d win easily, despite his three previous losses for the job.

Carville said he’ll try to be that convincing again.

“I’ll do my best, because I’d like to see him run,” he said.

Landrieu’s book tour is taking him all around the country, ahead of an enormous tricentennial bash in New Orleans just before his term ends in May.

“I think people in the country are thirsting for an answer for how we get out of where we are and get us to where we need to be,” Landrieu said. “This has less to do with me, than can we please find somebody to really run the country … to get us out of this seemingly manufactured chaos that we’re in and get us to some security.”

He contrasted Trump’s record with his own experience leading a city devastated by Hurricane Katrina and wracked by years of mismanagement that’s now on the rise. New Orleans, Landrieu said, is “a city that is ascendant that used to be descendant.”

Landrieu is spending his final year as mayor serving as president of the U.S. Conference of Mayors, traveling the country as he leads a bipartisan rejection of the Trump administration‘s policies on infrastructure, immigration, health care and more. He said Washington needs to pay closer attention to the performance of mayors from both parties.

“The question we have to ask ourselves is why Washington is so stuck when you have all of this innovation going on,” Landrieu said.

But Landrieu’s big mission, and one that he said he doesn’t need to run for president to pursue, is making people confront racism — their own and the country’s. That starts with Trump but goes much deeper, he said. Everything that America is going through now, he said, Louisiana has seen already.

“We can recognize it more clearly, and we hear dog whistles more acutely. I was trying to wake the country up to the fact this is not new,” Landrieu said.

In the book, Landrieu traces Duke’s rise through state politics in the 1980s and 1990s — the two served alongside one another in the statehouse in Baton Rouge. Landrieu writes that Duke advanced by tapping into economic anxiety and got a pass on his racism from other Republicans who “saw him as a slick operator of calculated expediency, but very few wanted to speak out against him.”

The former Klansman, Landrieu writes, was regularly undercutting facts in an early version of “fake news!” A passage from a newsletter from Duke’s National Association for the Advancement of White People, Landrieu writes, “sounded a whole lot like ‘Make America Great Again.’”

“It seems so benign, but the word again gave the line its punch. Again fills African-Americans with dread. Exactly when were we great before? What are we going back to? And by the way, your great wasn’t so great for me,” Landrieu writes.

Landrieu said he’s going to take some time when his term ends to recover. He’s been in office for 30 years straight, working his way up. He has five children, and he said he wants to earn a living.

The last section of his book makes a more direct case against Trump, weaving in his own personal history and quoting Robert F. Kennedy.

"Poverty is a form of violence, I believe. So is not having access to health care, or not having a real job,” Landrieu writes. “We all come to the table of democracy in the United States as equals. That's what makes America great.”

If Landrieu decides to run, he’ll have the rare luxury of not having a job — either to distract him from the campaign or to trigger complaints that he’s ignoring his work for the sake of his political ambitions. His admirers say Landrieu‘s background also gives him the advantage of being able to speak credibly to Trump voters.

“If he showed up somewhere, people would show up to hear what he has to say,” Carville said. “That’s a huge thing. Not everybody crosses that threshold from Day One.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/21/mitch-landrieu-2020-democrats-473648
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 21, 2018, 11:31:23 PM
What the Democrats need is Oprah to run. We've already learned a lesson about discounting a TV personality due to lack of qualifications. In todays America, Honey Boo Boo would garner more votes than Bernie Sanders. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 22, 2018, 07:00:15 AM
What the Democrats need is Oprah to run. We've already learned a lesson about discounting a TV personality due to lack of qualifications. In todays America, Honey Boo Boo would garner more votes than Bernie Sanders. 

A fat black broad who dates white guys who is an emotional wreck.    Yeah just the latest rescue to the Democrat shithole of a party.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 22, 2018, 10:53:00 AM
What the Democrats need is Oprah to run. We've already learned a lesson about discounting a TV personality due to lack of qualifications. In todays America, Honey Boo Boo would garner more votes than Bernie Sanders. 
There is truth in what you say. Sad.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 22, 2018, 11:38:00 AM
A fat black broad who dates white guys who is an emotional wreck.    Yeah just the latest rescue to the Democrat shithole of a party.   

honestly, Trump ain't much better, so we got nowhere to go but up
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 22, 2018, 11:47:03 AM
A fat black broad who dates white guys who is an emotional wreck.    Yeah just the latest rescue to the Democrat shithole of a party.   

And her net worth is peanuts at $2.7 billion. Stedman Graham, Oprah's partner for the last 30 years is African American.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 22, 2018, 12:00:44 PM
And her net worth is peanuts at $2.7 billion. Stedman Graham, Oprah's partner for the last 30 years is African American.

He's a lawyer, facts don't matter
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 22, 2018, 12:43:50 PM
And her net worth is peanuts at $2.7 billion. Stedman Graham, Oprah's partner for the last 30 years is African American.

My bad - she is still an emotional land whale who can't diet
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 22, 2018, 05:08:31 PM
My bad - she is still an emotional land whale who can't diet

worth a couple billion.. and you are..?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 22, 2018, 05:22:00 PM
My bad - she is still an emotional land whale who can't diet

I see nothing bad here. Rumors about her relationships have been around forever. She's a public figure. Although IMO she makes too big a deal about dieting when it is impossible to hide the failures and there's been a few.

Oprah 1998 Vogue cover photo:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ADvTFu0VuwA/UvoY0JBX5GI/AAAAAAAADmI/gdh8OtqVa6s/s1600/Oprah-Winfrey-Slim-Vogue-1998-Fashion-Rehab-03.jpg)

Twenty years later:

(https://s.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/oprah-winfrey-golden-globe-awards3-ap-mem-180108_4x3_992.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 22, 2018, 05:34:36 PM
I see nothing bad here. Rumors about her relationships have been around forever. She's a public figure. Although IMO she makes too big a deal about dieting when it is impossible to hide the failures and there's been a few.

Oprah 1998 Vogue cover photo:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ADvTFu0VuwA/UvoY0JBX5GI/AAAAAAAADmI/gdh8OtqVa6s/s1600/Oprah-Winfrey-Slim-Vogue-1998-Fashion-Rehab-03.jpg)

Twenty years later:

(https://s.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/oprah-winfrey-golden-globe-awards3-ap-mem-180108_4x3_992.jpg)

Selective use of pictures.  She has been obese for much of her life. 

(http://i.imgur.com/WZFzc51h.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 22, 2018, 05:47:24 PM
Selective use of pictures.  She has been obese for much of her life.  

(http://i.imgur.com/WZFzc51h.jpg)

Not sure what you mean here. I selected these two photos as examples of her thin and not-so-thin.

She's clearly obese in this photo, 'Oprah Winfrey admits to tipping the scales at 200 Lbs' in 2008.  In 1990, she weighed 237

(https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/oprah-9.jpg)

All her yo-yo weight gains and losses cannot be healthy.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Las Vegas on March 22, 2018, 06:21:02 PM
Biden had better find a way to pull footage on the hours upon hours worth of him grabbing and slobbering up the little girls who were so unfortunate to be in his presence over the years.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 22, 2018, 06:27:02 PM
Not sure what you mean here. I selected these two photos as examples of her thin and not-so-thin.

She's clearly obese in this photo, 'Oprah Winfrey admits to tipping the scales at 200 Lbs' in 2008.  In 1990, she weighed 237

(https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/oprah-9.jpg)

All her yo-yo weight gains and losses cannot be healthy.

Ok.  I misunderstood what you were doing.  My bad.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on March 22, 2018, 08:07:59 PM
I prefer fat Oprah.  Makes my dick harder than the blazes.  I'd probably drop a load by merely sucking her tits.  Wonder what kind of nipples she's packing?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 22, 2018, 10:05:37 PM
I prefer fat Oprah.  Makes my dick harder than the blazes.  I'd probably drop a load by merely sucking her tits.  Wonder what kind of nipples she's packing?


Drunken post of peace.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 10, 2018, 10:45:49 AM
Thank you Pocahontas.

Warren: I’ll serve my full Senate term if reelected
By LAUREN DEZENSKI 04/05/2018

DORCHESTER, Mass. — Elizabeth Warren said she would serve her full six-year term in the Senate if reelected in November.

“Yes, that’s my plan. I’m running for the United States Senate in 2018,” Warren told reporters Thursday, when asked if she would commit to serving out her full term. “I am not running for president of the United States. That’s my plan.”

. . . .

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/05/warren-pledges-full-senate-term-2018-505308
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 16, 2018, 11:04:34 AM
This hack wants to be president?  Please.

Cory Booker Asks Pompeo About ‘Gay Sex’ Three Times During Hearing
Mike Pompeo, Cory BookerAP Photos
by KRISTINA WONG
12 Apr 2018

Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) on Thursday made news after repeatedly demanding to know CIA Director Mike Pompeo’s views on gay sex at his confirmation hearing to become Secretary of State.

Booker cited a speech Pompeo gave as a congressman in 2015 at a church, in which he quoted words a pastor had once delivered before the Kansas State Legislature.
 
“America had worshipped other Gods and called it multiculturalism. We’d endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle,” Pompeo had said.

Booker then repeatedly asked Pompeo: “Is being gay a perversion?”

Pompeo responded that as a politician he had a “very clear view” on whether it was appropriate for two same sex persons to get married. “I stand by that,” he said.

“So you do not think it is appropriate for two gay people to marry?” Booker said.

Pompeo responded, “Senator, I continue to hold that view.”

Booker then suggested that Pompeo’s views would be a problem, saying that he had met people at the State Department in Africa who were in same-sex marriages.

“We have married gay couples at the CIA, you should know, I treated them with the exact same set of rights — ,” Pompeo said before being cut off by Booker repeatedly.

“You believe gay sex is a perversion, yes or no?” Booker demanded, and Pompeo tried to answer. “Yes or no, do you believe that gay sex is a perversion? … Yes or no, do you believe gay sex is a perversion?”

Pompeo said he was going to give him the same answer. “My respect for every individual regardless of their sexual orientation is the same,” he said.

Booker said that as Secretary of State he would be representing America at a time “hate acts” were increasing in the U.S.

The Huffington Post published a story in 2013 that seemed to question Booker’s sexual orientation, citing an interview he gave to the Washington Post:

“Booker, who recently won the Democratic primary for a special upcoming Senate election, is 44 and unmarried and does not speak publicly about his personal life. But, the mayor tells the Washington Post that he doesn’t mind the gay rumors that have bubbled up from time to time during his political career:

“…People who think I’m gay, some part of me thinks it’s wonderful. Because I want to challenge people on their homophobia. I love seeing on Twitter when someone says I’m gay, and I say, ‘So what does it matter if I am? So be it. I hope you are not voting for me because you are making the presumption that I’m straight.’ ”

“This isn’t the first time ‘gay’ and Booker’s name have appeared in the same sentence,” the Huffington Post wrote.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/12/cory-booker-asks-pompeo-gay-sex-three-times-hearing/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 16, 2018, 11:05:58 AM
Sen. Cory Booker Violating Constitution: Voting Against Pompeo for Religious Beliefs
by KEN KLUKOWSKI
15 Apr 2018
Washington, DC

WASHINGTON, DC – Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) announced on Friday that he will vote against CIA Director Mike Pompeo’s nomination to become secretary of state because of Pompeo’s beliefs on marriage and sexuality — beliefs consistent with Pompeo’s Christian faith. Conservative leaders are now denouncing Booker’s vote as a violation of the Constitution’s Religious Test Clause.

Booker sharply questioned Pompeo on Thursday during the nominee’s confirmation hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, referring to words Pompeo spoke at a church in his district when the current director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was still serving in the U.S. House of Representatives.
 
Pompeo has also supported efforts to defend marriage as the union between one man and one woman. Those beliefs are consistent with mainstream Christian beliefs.

Booker announced on Facebook late Friday that he will vote against Pompeo, saying that the former congressmen’s religious beliefs on these issues make him unfit to serve in federal office representing the United States. “I believe you can’t lead the people if you don’t love the people,” Booker wrote. The senator then quotes Bible verses that he thinks Pompeo is not living up to, including references to loving his neighbor.

Article VI of the U.S. Constitution provides, “No religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office of public Trust under the United States.”

Conservative and Christian leaders are appalled at Booker’s announcement, saying the Constitution forbids Booker’s voting against Pompeo because of the nominee’s religious beliefs.

“Demanding a loyalty oath to Sen. Booker’s determination of which beliefs are acceptable isn’t what this country is about; indeed, it’s what we fought for independence from,” Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council (FRC), tells Breitbart News. “We should celebrate that we are a nation that not only allows but encourages every American to hold and express their beliefs – including their religious beliefs – without fear of retribution by the government.”

Perkins, whose FRC has launched a petition protesting Booker’s violation of the Religious Test Clause that has 25,000 signatures at the time this article was filed, adds that this principle “is the essence of America and the Constitution.”

“Religious bigotry and discrimination is unacceptable in this country, much less from someone who takes an oath to our Constitution and who is supposed to serve the people of this country,” agrees Kelly Shackelford, president of First Liberty Institute, in an exclusive comment to Breitbart News.

“Sen. Cory Booker questioned Secretary of State-nominee Mike Pompeo for comments he made at his church, comments which reflected long-standing church doctrine regarding homosexual conduct and the biblical definition of marriage,” said Prof. John Eastman, chairman of the National Organization for Marriage (NOM). “And now Sen. Booker asserts that he will oppose Pompeo for those views.”

“This is essentially imposing a religious test on officers of the United States, something explicitly forbidden by Article VI of the Constitution,” added Eastman, whose NOM has likewise launched a petition.

“The American people put President Trump in the White House in part because they refuse to be discriminated against for their long-held, mainstream beliefs,” Trump Transition Team leader Ken Blackwell offers to Breitbart News. “Whether on abortion, marriage, the Bible, the Second Amendment, or other issues, tens of millions of Americans who are wonderful people have been vilified for their beliefs by left-wing elites, and the American people chose a president who will stand up for them.”

Pompeo’s nomination is still pending in the Senate, with committee approval expected shortly but no final floor vote yet scheduled.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/15/sen-booker-violating-constitution-voting-pompeo-religious-beliefs/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on May 21, 2018, 09:49:51 AM
At least he won't have to deal with Clinton cheating him out of the nomination.  And will not surprise me one bit of Democrats nominate an avowed socialist.  He will do down in flames if he is the nominee.

In re-election announcement, Bernie Sanders vows to be Trump's 'fiercest opponent in the Senate'
by Anna Giaritelli
May 21, 2018

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., announced his bid Monday for a third term and aimed to earn more support in the November 2018 election by promising to be President Trump's worst enemy in the Senate.

“Today, I am announcing my intention to run for re-election to the United States Senate in 2018,” Sanders wrote on Twitter.

"These are frightening and unprecedented times. We have a president who is not only a pathological liar, but someone who is trying to win votes by dividing our nation up based on the color of our skin, our country of origin, our religion, our gender or our sexual orientation," he continued. "If reelected, you can be sure that I will continue to be the fiercest opponent in the Senate to the rightwing extremism of Trump and the Republican leadership."

The Independent lawmaker caucuses with the Democratic Party but has endorsed socialist ideas that are far more progressive than those of moderate liberals.

Sanders, who turns 77 years old in September, would be 83 years old at the conclusion of a third term, if elected.

The senator became a household name by challenging Hillary Clinton for the Democrat's 2016 presidential nomination.

The Cook Political Report declared last September Sanders' seat a "solid Democrat."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/in-re-election-announcement-bernie-sanders-vows-to-be-trumps-fiercest-opponent-in-the-senate
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2018, 11:29:20 AM
So far, a steady stream of duds. 

Eric Holder says he's interested in being president. And he thinks he has what it takes
CNN Digital Expansion 2017
By Dan Merica, CNN
Sun July 29, 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/28/politics/eric-holder-interested-in-being-president/index.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 01, 2018, 11:33:11 AM
So far, a steady stream of duds. 

Eric Holder says he's interested in being president. And he thinks he has what it takes
CNN Digital Expansion 2017
By Dan Merica, CNN
Sun July 29, 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/28/politics/eric-holder-interested-in-being-president/index.html

Eric Holder - HA!!!! 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2018, 12:44:44 PM
This hack wants to be president?  Please.

Cory Booker Asks Pompeo About ‘Gay Sex’ Three Times During Hearing
Mike Pompeo, Cory BookerAP Photos
by KRISTINA WONG
12 Apr 2018

Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) on Thursday made news after repeatedly demanding to know CIA Director Mike Pompeo’s views on gay sex at his confirmation hearing to become Secretary of State.

Booker cited a speech Pompeo gave as a congressman in 2015 at a church, in which he quoted words a pastor had once delivered before the Kansas State Legislature.
 
“America had worshipped other Gods and called it multiculturalism. We’d endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle,” Pompeo had said.

Booker then repeatedly asked Pompeo: “Is being gay a perversion?”

Pompeo responded that as a politician he had a “very clear view” on whether it was appropriate for two same sex persons to get married. “I stand by that,” he said.

“So you do not think it is appropriate for two gay people to marry?” Booker said.

Pompeo responded, “Senator, I continue to hold that view.”

Booker then suggested that Pompeo’s views would be a problem, saying that he had met people at the State Department in Africa who were in same-sex marriages.

“We have married gay couples at the CIA, you should know, I treated them with the exact same set of rights — ,” Pompeo said before being cut off by Booker repeatedly.

“You believe gay sex is a perversion, yes or no?” Booker demanded, and Pompeo tried to answer. “Yes or no, do you believe that gay sex is a perversion? … Yes or no, do you believe gay sex is a perversion?”

Pompeo said he was going to give him the same answer. “My respect for every individual regardless of their sexual orientation is the same,” he said.

Booker said that as Secretary of State he would be representing America at a time “hate acts” were increasing in the U.S.

The Huffington Post published a story in 2013 that seemed to question Booker’s sexual orientation, citing an interview he gave to the Washington Post:

“Booker, who recently won the Democratic primary for a special upcoming Senate election, is 44 and unmarried and does not speak publicly about his personal life. But, the mayor tells the Washington Post that he doesn’t mind the gay rumors that have bubbled up from time to time during his political career:

“…People who think I’m gay, some part of me thinks it’s wonderful. Because I want to challenge people on their homophobia. I love seeing on Twitter when someone says I’m gay, and I say, ‘So what does it matter if I am? So be it. I hope you are not voting for me because you are making the presumption that I’m straight.’ ”

“This isn’t the first time ‘gay’ and Booker’s name have appeared in the same sentence,” the Huffington Post wrote.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/12/cory-booker-asks-pompeo-gay-sex-three-times-hearing/

Pompeo's personal views on gay marriage shouldn't be at issue because in 2015 the US Supreme Court ruled that gay marriage is legal nationwide. If Pompeo discriminates against gay married folks or CIA employees who are in same sex marriages, he'd be breaking the law.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2018, 01:01:41 PM
2020 is still a ways off. Nominations for President should start to jell once the primaries are closer. However, this could happen sooner since Trump is currently putting a lot of his time and energy into campaigning for reelection. I believe all politicians should concentrate on doing their jobs at this point. If this puts incumbents at a disadvantage, so be it. Turnover in government can be a positive thing. Currently incumbents are much more likely to win reelection than new nominees.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2018, 01:58:59 PM
Pompeo's personal views on gay marriage shouldn't be at issue because in 2015 the US Supreme Court ruled that gay marriage is legal nationwide. If Pompeo discriminates against gay married folks or CIA employees who are in same sex marriages, he'd be breaking the law.   

His views on gay marriage are not at issue because they don't have squat to do with his job as Secretary of State. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2018, 02:00:34 PM
2020 is still a ways off. Nominations for President should start to jell once the primaries are closer. However, this could happen sooner since Trump is currently putting a lot of his time and energy into campaigning for reelection. I believe all politicians should concentrate on doing their jobs at this point. If this puts incumbents at a disadvantage, so be it. Turnover in government can be a positive thing. Currently incumbents are much more likely to win reelection than new nominees.

If he continues to perform as he has the first two years and if the economy remains strong, he will sail to reelection, particularly if Democrats nominate another dud.  But 2020 is a lifetime away in political years.  Lots can happen. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2018, 02:49:28 PM
His views on gay marriage are not at issue because they don't have squat to do with his job as Secretary of State. 

The secretary organizes and supervises the entire department and its staff. Which includes ‎13,000 Foreign Service employees. Should the Secretary of State discriminate against any of these folk because they are gay and/or in a gay marriage. He'll be breaking federal law. -Never said or implied this would happen. He has a right to his personal views and should not be questioned about them at this point.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on August 01, 2018, 03:09:18 PM
Pompeo's personal views on gay marriage shouldn't be at issue because in 2015 the US Supreme Court ruled that gay marriage is legal nationwide. If Pompeo discriminates against gay married folks or CIA employees who are in same sex marriages, he'd be breaking the law.   


Sometimes the laws are wrong.
I’d support him in discriminating.

I discriminate all the time if I don’t like certain types of people
And truth is likely almost everyone does to some extent.

I’m aware that I’m & friends are discriminated against that’s just
The way of the world.

Deal with it - move on.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2018, 03:22:15 PM
The secretary organizes and supervises the entire department and its staff. Which includes ‎13,000 Foreign Service employees. Should the Secretary of State discriminate against any of these folk because they are gay and/or in a gay marriage. He'll be breaking federal law. -Never said or implied this would happen. He has a right to his personal views and should not be questioned about them at this point.

So what?  The Homeland Security Director (and every other department head) supervises an enormous staff.  Their jobs have zero to do with gay marriage.  It was a ridiculous issue for Booker to bring up.  He's a partisan drama queen.  Thank God he will never sniff the White House. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2018, 03:31:18 PM

Sometimes the laws are wrong.
I’d support him in discriminating.

I discriminate all the time if I don’t like certain types of people
And truth is likely almost everyone does to some extent.

I’m aware that I’m & friends are discriminated against that’s just
The way of the world.

Deal with it - move on.

I don't think there is anything immoral or wrong about anti-discrimination laws.  I'm not a libertarian.  We have rightfully decided as a society that we will not allow certain forms of discrimination in the marketplace (employment, housing, and public accommodations).  That's a good thing.  The problem is we have expanded those protections to things that should not be regulated by the government. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on August 01, 2018, 03:38:05 PM
I don't think there is anything immoral or wrong about anti-discrimination laws.  I'm not a libertarian.  We have rightfully decided as a society that we will not allow certain forms of discrimination in the marketplace (employment, housing, and public accommodations).  That's a good thing.  The problem is we have expanded those protections to things that should not be regulated by the government. 


Yes I’d have to say I generally agree with what you said.

My point is People have / do & will continue to discriminate
In one way or another illegal or not they find ways around it.

It’s human nature.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2018, 04:03:15 PM

Yes I’d have to say I generally agree with what you said.

My point is People have / do & will continue to discriminate
In one way or another illegal or not they find ways around it.

It’s human nature.

True, although they cannot do it openly.  Like MLK said during the civil rights movement:  you cannot use the law to change people's hearts, but you can use it to control their behavior. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2018, 05:25:48 PM
So what?  The Homeland Security Director (and every other department head) supervises an enormous staff.  Their jobs have zero to do with gay marriage.  It was a ridiculous issue for Booker to bring up.  He's a partisan drama queen.  Thank God he will never sniff the White House.  

Any person in a supervisory position, be it in public or private employment, has the responsibility to obey the law. In this case, a law which legalized gay marriage. I've already shared my opinion on Booker's questioning any appointees' position on gay matters. It is wrong, unless he has direct knowledge that Pompeo has acted against the law since it was passed and would therefore be likely to disregard it in the future. Pompeo's personal beliefs should not be an issue.

I will not respond further on this matter because you and I are now 'beating a dead horse.'
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2018, 05:33:57 PM
Any person in a supervisory position, be it in public or private employment, has the responsibility to obey the law. In this case, a law which legalized gay marriage. I've already shared my opinion on Booker's questioning any appointees' position on gay matters. It is wrong, unless he has direct knowledge that Pompeo has acted against the law since it was passed and would therefore be likely to disregard it in the future. Pompeo's personal beliefs should not be an issue.

I will not respond further on this matter because you and I are now 'beating a dead horse.'

Frankly you're not making a whole lot of sense on this subject.  Not everyone in a "supervisory position" deals with gay marriage.  It's a non-issue in most contexts and definitely as it relates to Pompeo's job as Secretary of State.

And just to clarify, Booker was not asking about Pompeo's "personal beliefs," he was asking about Pompeo's religious beliefs, which is unconstitutional. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on August 01, 2018, 05:42:02 PM
Civil war can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on August 01, 2018, 05:46:54 PM
Frankly you're not making a whole lot of sense on this subject.  Not everyone in a "supervisory position" deals with gay marriage.  It's a non-issue in most contexts and definitely as it relates to Pompeo's job as Secretary of State.

And just to clarify, Booker was not asking about Pompeo's "personal beliefs," he was asking about Pompeo's religious beliefs, which is unconstitutional. 

Logic is not the province of polesmokers.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2018, 05:48:07 PM
Civil war can't come soon enough.

Ha, ha. I was just reading something about this today. If the people of U.S. are willing to engage in another shameful civil war, I'm outta here!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2018, 05:49:18 PM
Logic is not the province of polesmokers.

Dead horse.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2018, 06:17:55 PM
Civil war can't come soon enough.

Hyperbole, but not too much.  Definitely a culture war brewing. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on August 01, 2018, 06:39:39 PM
Dead horse.

Dead from the AIDS
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2018, 06:45:16 PM
Dead from the AIDS

Do horses get AIDS?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 02, 2018, 02:17:14 PM
Do horses get AIDS?


Only the gay ones.


So, are you the new Shizzo?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 02, 2018, 06:45:13 PM

Only the gay ones.


So, are you the new Shizzo?

Regardless of their sexual orientation, horses don't get HIV, but they can get EIA which is an HIV equivalent in that it affects their immune system. The list of mammals who exhibit homosexual behaviors is so incredibly long that it is impractical to publish it here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

Not sure what you mean by this, but no, I am not the new anyone. I'm just me - the same me that joined Getbig in 2004.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on August 02, 2018, 07:40:30 PM

Only the gay ones.


So, are you the new Shizzo?

This is a safe place.  Come on out.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 03, 2018, 05:03:54 PM
Shocking.  Not. 

Elizabeth Warren To Consider A 2020 Presidential Run After Midterms
“It’s time for women to go to Washington and fix our broken government, and that includes a woman at the top,” she said.
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By Nina Golgowski
POLITICS 09/30/2018

A presidential run may soon be on the horizon for Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

The Massachusetts Democrat announced on Saturday that she will seriously consider running for the White House following the midterm elections in November.

“It’s time for women to go to Washington and fix our broken government and that includes a woman at the top. So here’s what I promise, after November 6 I will take a hard look at running for president,” she declared to a standing ovation as seen in an online video.

Warren, an outspoken critic of President Donald Trump who has said he intends to seek re-election, shared her plans at a town hall meeting in western Massachusetts. She expressed concern about the nation’s general state of affairs and in particular decried Republicans’ handling of sexual assault accusations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

“I watched 11 men who were too chicken to ask a woman a single question,” she said of the GOP members of the Senate Judiciary Committee who relied on outside attorney to question Kavanaugh’s alleged victim, Christine Blasey Ford, at a hearing on Thursday. “I watched powerful men helping a powerful man make it to an even more powerful position.”

Of the president, Warren said, “Let’s face it, Donald Trump is taking this country in the wrong direction ... I am worried, down to my bones, about what Donald Trump is doing to our democracy.”

Speculation over a presidential bid by Warren has swirled for some time. Her Saturday remarks were her clearest and most direct on her intentions.

Warren, an Oklahoma native, won her Senate seat in 2012 after careers as a law professor and consumer advocate. She is currently seeking re-election to the Senate, and is heavily favored to defeat state Rep. Geoff Diehl.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/elizabeth-warren-to-consider-2020-run_us_5bb0e824e4b0343b3dc11858
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on October 04, 2018, 05:37:41 PM
For example, I think the GOP and Trump have lost college educated suburban woman for a looooooong time .

No
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on October 04, 2018, 07:08:22 PM
2+ yrs is an eternity in politics.
To Trump's credit he was able to thread the voter needle in the rustbelt states and Penn. to win in 2016.
BUT, when you add it up, it was a small % of votes that did it in only a few key states.

I seriously doubt he can hold that same coalition together for a 2020 win.
For example, I think the GOP and Trump have lost college educated suburban woman for a looooooong time .


The historical imperative is that incumbent presidents are reelected unless challenged in the primary.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on October 05, 2018, 04:02:00 AM

For example, I think the GOP and Trump have lost college educated suburban woman for a looooooong time .


Only the coloured ones that were never voting GOP to begin with...  ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on October 05, 2018, 01:25:36 PM
The historical imperative is that incumbent presidents are reelected unless challenged in the primary.

imperative?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on October 05, 2018, 07:44:20 PM
imperative?

The term is "Historical imperative," meaning, history points to Trump's reelection.  As a prediction, it's low-hanging fruit.  But let's see if someone challenges Trump in the primaries and, if so, how much of the feared "dark money" goes to the challenger.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 05, 2018, 07:52:02 PM
Avenatti can be #16 as the cherry on top of this shit sundae.  ;)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on October 05, 2018, 09:05:39 PM
The term is "Historical imperative," meaning, history points to Trump's reelection.  As a prediction, it's low-hanging fruit.  But let's see if someone challenges Trump in the primaries and, if so, how much of the feared "dark money" goes to the challenger.

Thanks for the clarification of the term(s). Not sure I agree, but then I thought Clinton would be our President...so, what do I know?  ::)

The two candidates running for state office in my district are both women. The Republican incumbent has been our house representative for many terms, but she's a bit of a renegade who makes decisions which rile her own party as well as it does the Democrats. I support her challenger. What I've noticed is that more than in any previous election, the Democratic party is  pouring a lot of support into getting their candidate elected. It would not surprise me if we have a new representative in the House come November 6th. Yeah!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on October 05, 2018, 09:25:09 PM
Thanks for the clarification of the term(s). Not sure I agree, but then I thought Clinton would be our President...so, what do I know?  ::)

The two candidates running for state office in my district are both women. The Republican incumbent has been our house representative for many terms, but she's a bit of a renegade who makes decisions which rile her own party as well as it does the Democrats. I support her challenger. What I've noticed is that more than in any previous election, the Democratic party is  pouring a lot of support into getting their candidate elected. It would not surprise me if we have a new representative in the House come November 6th. Yeah!

You're welcome.  And to my knowledge, it only applies to presidential elections.  There're too many variables with "down ballot" elections.  Down ballot: s'what I learned in 2016.  ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 22, 2018, 04:09:13 PM
And this dude is a presidential contender??  Holy smokes.   :-\

Joaquin Castro accuses Kushner of orchestrating killing of Khashoggi
BY OWEN DAUGHERTY - 10/19/18

Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-Texas) on Friday accused senior White House adviser Jared Kushner of orchestrating the killing of Saudi-born Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi.

Castro, who serves on the House Intelligence Committee, told CNN he did not have substantial evidence to support his claim, but repeatedly cited media reports on the subject.

Castro cited unspecified reporting “that Jared Kushner may have, with U.S. intelligence, delivered a hit list, an enemies list, to the crown prince, to MBS, in Saudi Arabia and that the prince may have acted on that.”

CNN host Poppy Harlow attempted to clarify what reporting Castro was referring to, saying CNN had not reported on that accusation.

Castro continued, saying “I’ve seen reporting to that effect … That needs to be investigated.”

Castro later clarified his comments, tweeting that he did not intend to accuse Kushner of orchestrating the killing and noting he meant to express that he wants Congress to open an investigation into whether U.S. intelligence was shared with Saudi Arabia that may have led to Khashoggi's death.

He also linked media reporting that highlighted ties between the Trump administration and Saudi Arabia.

“To be clear, I did not intend to accuse @jaredkushner of orchestrating anything,” Castro tweeted. “Based on press reporting, I’m asking for Congress to open an investigation of whether any US Intelligence was shared with Saudi Arabia that led to political persecution or killing of #Khashoggi.”

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders later condemned Castro's remarks, calling the allegation "outrageous" and "slanderous."

".@JoaquinCastrotx’s allegation is an outrageous slanderous lie without a shred of proof, it’s reprehensible for a sitting Congressman and supposed 'news' outlets to continue citing an article that used unnamed sources and was completely debunked," Sanders tweeted Friday afternoon.

Khashoggi has been missing for more than two weeks and was last seen entering the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul.

Kushner, the son-in-law of President Trump, and Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman have a well-documented relationship, though no one before Castro has accused Kushner of having any involvement in the death of Khashoggi.

On Thursday, Trump took his strongest stance against Saudi Arabia, threatening "very severe" consequences if the country is found to be responsible for the killing.

Until Thursday, Trump and his top aides had been reluctant to criticize the Saudis over Khashoggi's disappearance and the president even floated the possibility that “rogue killers” were responsible for the alleged attack.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/412249-joaquin-castro-accuses-jared-kushner-of-orchestrating-killing-of
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 22, 2018, 07:48:24 PM
And this dude is a presidential contender??  Holy smokes.   :-\

Joaquin Castro accuses Kushner of orchestrating killing of Khashoggi
BY OWEN DAUGHERTY - 10/19/18

Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-Texas) on Friday accused senior White House adviser Jared Kushner of orchestrating the killing of Saudi-born Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi.

Castro, who serves on the House Intelligence Committee, told CNN he did not have substantial evidence to support his claim, but repeatedly cited media reports on the subject.

Castro cited unspecified reporting “that Jared Kushner may have, with U.S. intelligence, delivered a hit list, an enemies list, to the crown prince, to MBS, in Saudi Arabia and that the prince may have acted on that.”

CNN host Poppy Harlow attempted to clarify what reporting Castro was referring to, saying CNN had not reported on that accusation.

Castro continued, saying “I’ve seen reporting to that effect … That needs to be investigated.”

Castro later clarified his comments, tweeting that he did not intend to accuse Kushner of orchestrating the killing and noting he meant to express that he wants Congress to open an investigation into whether U.S. intelligence was shared with Saudi Arabia that may have led to Khashoggi's death.

He also linked media reporting that highlighted ties between the Trump administration and Saudi Arabia.

“To be clear, I did not intend to accuse @jaredkushner of orchestrating anything,” Castro tweeted. “Based on press reporting, I’m asking for Congress to open an investigation of whether any US Intelligence was shared with Saudi Arabia that led to political persecution or killing of #Khashoggi.”

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders later condemned Castro's remarks, calling the allegation "outrageous" and "slanderous."

".@JoaquinCastrotx’s allegation is an outrageous slanderous lie without a shred of proof, it’s reprehensible for a sitting Congressman and supposed 'news' outlets to continue citing an article that used unnamed sources and was completely debunked," Sanders tweeted Friday afternoon.

Khashoggi has been missing for more than two weeks and was last seen entering the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul.

Kushner, the son-in-law of President Trump, and Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman have a well-documented relationship, though no one before Castro has accused Kushner of having any involvement in the death of Khashoggi.

On Thursday, Trump took his strongest stance against Saudi Arabia, threatening "very severe" consequences if the country is found to be responsible for the killing.

Until Thursday, Trump and his top aides had been reluctant to criticize the Saudis over Khashoggi's disappearance and the president even floated the possibility that “rogue killers” were responsible for the alleged attack.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/412249-joaquin-castro-accuses-jared-kushner-of-orchestrating-killing-of

Taking a play right out of the Trump book. Page 63. Accuse Ted Cruz' dad of assisting in killing JFK
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 22, 2018, 08:43:14 PM
Taking a play right out of the Trump book. Page 63. Accuse Ted Cruz' dad of assisting in killing JFK

 ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on October 29, 2018, 03:25:44 AM
plz god let this happen!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Kwon3 on October 29, 2018, 12:17:50 PM
I  think a new dem challenger will emerge long AFTER the dust settles from 2018 midterms.
If the dems take back and the house and Pelosi is speaker, expect the usual suspects to emerge in 2020.
For example, Joe Biden could emerge as a the defacto dem leader and run as a 1 term POTUS.
In this scenario look for the GOP to run Gov J Kasich or Romney to challenge Trump in 2020.

BUT, if the dems install a new speaker OR ( don't win the house or senate) expect a new direction for dems.

I don't see it happening, but if the dems lose big in 2018, expect the GOP to show even more loyalty and support around Trump.


I think everything you say on here is bullshit and should be treated as such.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on October 29, 2018, 04:24:35 PM
2020 is about to be a blast!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on October 29, 2018, 04:27:53 PM
2020 is about to be a blast!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 29, 2018, 04:48:17 PM

m
Drunken loser witch
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on October 29, 2018, 11:01:24 PM
I  think a new dem challenger will emerge long AFTER the dust settles from 2018 midterms.
If the dems take back and the house and Pelosi is speaker, expect the usual suspects to emerge in 2020.
For example, Joe Biden could emerge as a the defacto dem leader and run as a 1 term POTUS.
In this scenario look for the GOP to run Gov J Kasich or Romney to challenge Trump in 2020.

BUT, if the dems install a new speaker OR ( don't win the house or senate) expect a new direction for dems.

I don't see it happening, but if the dems lose big in 2018, expect the GOP to show even more loyalty and support around Trump.


This would be bad for Trump.  He'll win every state Hillary won and take back Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and probably Ohio. 


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 29, 2018, 11:15:31 PM
This would be bad for Trump.  He'll win every state Hillary won and take back Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and probably Ohio. 




lol
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 30, 2018, 12:38:20 AM
Trump would crumple Biden. Kasich might as well run as a Dem...can you say RINO?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Kwon3 on October 30, 2018, 12:45:20 AM
I  think a new dem challenger will emerge long AFTER the dust settles from 2018 midterms.
If the dems take back and the house and Pelosi is speaker, expect the usual suspects to emerge in 2020.
For example, Joe Biden could emerge as a the defacto dem leader and run as a 1 term POTUS.
In this scenario look for the GOP to run Gov J Kasich or Romney to challenge Trump in 2020.

BUT, if the dems install a new speaker OR ( don't win the house or senate) expect a new direction for dems.

I don't see it happening, but if the dems lose big in 2018, expect the GOP to show even more loyalty and support around Trump.

Who, this guy?

(https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8422640384/hFCD48F41/)
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(https://i.redd.it/luzhew55oxuy.gif)
(https://i.gifer.com/2y4R.gif)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/IkTn72qLPFMnC/giphy.gif)
(https://thetvmouse.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/leslie-kissing-biden.gif?w=620)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/C3pDnuXbVVRNC/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on October 30, 2018, 01:37:52 PM
It hurts my brain to think about what's going to happen 2 years from now when we elect the president. Trump was a surprise to many. There's probably more surprises to come.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Kwon3 on October 30, 2018, 07:28:28 PM
It hurts my brain to think about what's going to happen 2 years from now when we elect the president. Trump was a surprise to many. There's probably more surprises to come.
It's going to depend in large part on how Republicans vote next month whether Trump gets 4 more years in 2020. We stood squarely behind him over Brett Kavanaugh and we'll do it again next month, but how much exactly remains to be seen. Midterms are historically tough for sitting presidents. But the Left's doom & gloom predictions in November 2016 proved to be unfounded. Two years later, he's decimated a significant portion of the old guard that was resisting him in his own party and has remained in contact with the people who elected him by cleverly rallying again all over the country, something no President has done in America history in non-election years. He's 72 years old and has health problems with an average of 4hrs of sleep and one of the most stressful jobs in the world plus the entire media sitting on his neck, can't be easy. Men half his age would be burned out by now.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on October 31, 2018, 03:51:13 PM
It hurts my brain to think about what's going to happen 2 years from now when we elect the president. Trump was a surprise to many. There's probably more surprises to come.
Creepy uncle Joe going to get exposed and blasted if he even thinks about it.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Kwon3 on October 31, 2018, 07:30:18 PM
Creepy uncle Joe going to get exposed and blasted if he even thinks about it.
He fondles and touches women inappropriately, and it's all on tape. He's also made prejudicial statements about blacks and did it when he was running against Obama. He's a shitbag. This is who the Left sees as the best and brightest patron saint.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 31, 2018, 07:49:43 PM
He fondles and touches women inappropriately, and it's all on tape. He's also made prejudicial statements about blacks and did it when he was running against Obama. He's a shitbag. This is who the Left sees as the best and brightest patron saint.

And he is STILL better than the current Dufus
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 31, 2018, 08:00:54 PM
And he is STILL better than the current Dufus

lol
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on November 01, 2018, 06:06:32 PM
He fondles and touches women inappropriately, and it's all on tape. He's also made prejudicial statements about blacks and did it when he was running against Obama. He's a shitbag. This is who the Left sees as the best and brightest patron saint.
There must be hundreds of pics/vids of him touching, grabbing, kissing on young girls. It's actually amazing he hasn't been called out, even by the liberal media.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on November 02, 2018, 08:45:13 AM
And he is STILL better than the current Dufus

better at fondling women? I'll concede that.

But I have yet to see Biden get a whore to pay HIM for sex (i.e. Stormy).
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on November 02, 2018, 07:06:39 PM
And he is STILL better than the current Dufus


CIA's Communications Catastrophe Revealed

In 2013, hundreds of CIA officers — many working nonstop for weeks — scrambled to contain a disaster of global proportions: a compromise of the agency’s internet-based covert communications system used to interact with its informants in dark corners around the world. Teams of CIA experts worked feverishly to take down and reconfigure the websites secretly used for these communications; others managed operations to quickly spirit assets to safety and oversaw other forms of triage.

“When this was going on, it was all that mattered,” said one former intelligence community official. The situation was “catastrophic,” said another former senior intelligence official.

From around 2009 to 2013, the U.S. intelligence community experienced crippling intelligence failures related to the secret internet-based communications system, a key means for remote messaging between CIA officers and their sources on the ground worldwide. The previously unreported global problem originated in Iran and spiderwebbed to other countries, and was left unrepaired — despite warnings about what was happening — until more than two dozen sources died in China in 2011 and 2012 as a result, according to 11 former intelligence and national security officials.

The disaster ensnared every corner of the national security bureaucracy — from multiple intelligence agencies, congressional intelligence committees and independent contractors to internal government watchdogs — forcing a slow-moving, complex government machine to grapple with the deadly dangers of emerging technologies.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cias-communications-suffered-catastrophic-compromise-started-iran-090018710.html

And Which Dindu Dufus was President them.

Why not cry a river at Donald being Your President.
Must Hurt So Much Everyday.

😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 04, 2018, 02:56:03 AM
And he is STILL better than the current Dufus

Hilarious.  Both Biden and ofagget never worked a real job in their lives
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 04, 2018, 05:43:00 PM
Hilarious.  Both Biden and ofagget never worked a real job in their lives

Maybe not blue collar jobs. With an advanced education at Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard Law School, Obama got his J.D., magna cum laude, why would he need to? He did briefly work as a civil rights attorney.

Biden also has a law degree and began working as an attorney immediately following graduation.

You're an attorney. Do you not think it's a real job? Perhaps it isn't if you have no clients. ;)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 04, 2018, 05:49:52 PM
Maybe not blue collar jobs. With an advanced education at Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard Law School, where he got his J.D., magna cum laude, why would he?

Neither a real job ever.   Ever. 

Both are worthless garbage and parasites.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 09, 2018, 10:59:15 AM
KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND STILL CONSIDERING A 2020 PRESIDENTIAL RUN DESPITE PROMISING NOT TO
11/09/2018 | POLITICS
Molly Prince | Politics Reporter

Democratic New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand announced Thursday that she is still considering launching a bid for the presidency in 2020, even though she promised prior to her midterm election that she would serve her full six-year term if re-elected to the Senate.

While appearing on “The Late Show,” host Stephen Colbert asked the New York senator whether she’s contemplating a presidential run.

“I do think it’s an important question,” Gillibrand responded. “I believe it’s a moral question for me … And as I’ve traveled across my state, across this country for all these candidates, I’ve seen the hatred and division that President Trump has put into our country and it has called me to fight as hard as I possibly can restore the moral compass of this country.”

WATCH:

“I believe right now that every one of us should figure out how we can do whatever we can with our time, with our talents to restore that moral decency, that moral compass, that truth of who we are as Americans,” Gillibrand continued. “So I will promise you I will give it a long, hard thought of consideration. I will do that.” (RELATED: Kirsten Gillibrand: I Never Meant Abolish ICE When I Said ‘Abolish ICE’)

However, only two weeks earlier, Gillibrand pledged during a debate with her GOP challenger that she would “serve [her] six-year term” if she won re-election.

Gillibrand handily won re-election on Tuesday by 33 points.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/09/kirsten-gillibrand-2020-presidential-run/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on November 11, 2018, 03:43:48 PM
The writing is on the wall Trumptards!  8)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 05, 2018, 11:12:25 AM
He's running. She's running. Everyone's running.
Damon Linker
December 5, 2018
https://theweek.com/articles/810783/hes-running-running-everyones-running
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 05, 2018, 03:54:26 PM
He's running. She's running. Everyone's running.
Damon Linker
December 5, 2018
https://theweek.com/articles/810783/hes-running-running-everyones-running

Who is or isn't running will be a constant media talking point for the next year.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on December 05, 2018, 04:00:55 PM
Maybe not blue collar jobs. With an advanced education at Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard Law School, Obama got his J.D., magna cum laude, why would he need to? He did briefly work as a civil rights attorney.

Biden also has a law degree and began working as an attorney immediately following graduation.

You're an attorney. Do you not think it's a real job? Perhaps it isn't if you have no clients. ;)
Civil rights attorney ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 05, 2018, 04:06:35 PM
Civil rights attorney ::)

He probably didn't make as much as a corporate attorney, but the risks weren't anything as compared to being one of Trump's corporate attorneys where the risk is substantial, as we've witnessed these past couple of years.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on December 05, 2018, 04:12:22 PM
He probably didn't make as much as a corporate attorney, but the risks weren't anything as compared to being one of Trump's corporate attorneys where the risk is substantial, as we've witnessed these past couple of years.
And we'll keep witnessing until 2024 when Trump leaves office. :-*
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on December 06, 2018, 01:25:56 AM
Here is your 2020 candidate:
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 06, 2018, 04:51:45 AM
Civil rights attorney ::)

O-BUM  was never a real lawyer.   He has always been a ghetto bum and street hustler.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 06, 2018, 09:59:20 AM
Here is your 2020 candidate:

For the love of God Pleeeeeease let this happen!!!!

There is NO greater matchup than Trump v. Hillary 2.0
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 06, 2018, 11:10:29 AM
O-BUM  was never a real lawyer.   He has always been a ghetto bum and street hustler.   

Senior attorneys at the small firm where he worked say he was a strong writer and researcher, but was involved in relatively few cases -- about 30 -- and spent only four years as a full-time lawyer before entering politics.

Obama arrived in Chicago in 1993 with a degree from Harvard Law School and was hired as a junior lawyer at the firm then known as Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Gallard. He helped represent clients in civil and voting rights matters and wrongful firings, argued a case before a federal appellate court, and took the lead in writing a suit to expand voter registration.




Whats a real lawyer?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 06, 2018, 11:32:20 AM
Senior attorneys at the small firm where he worked say he was a strong writer and researcher, but was involved in relatively few cases -- about 30 -- and spent only four years as a full-time lawyer before entering politics.

Obama arrived in Chicago in 1993 with a degree from Harvard Law School and was hired as a junior lawyer at the firm then known as Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Gallard. He helped represent clients in civil and voting rights matters and wrongful firings, argued a case before a federal appellate court, and took the lead in writing a suit to expand voter registration.




Whats a real lawyer?

So ghetto
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 06, 2018, 11:41:55 AM
Senior attorneys at the small firm where he worked say he was a strong writer and researcher, but was involved in relatively few cases -- about 30 -- and spent only four years as a full-time lawyer before entering politics.

Obama arrived in Chicago in 1993 with a degree from Harvard Law School and was hired as a junior lawyer at the firm then known as Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Gallard. He helped represent clients in civil and voting rights matters and wrongful firings, argued a case before a federal appellate court, and took the lead in writing a suit to expand voter registration.




Whats a real lawyer?

LOL - helped represent?  LMFAO!  What does that mean?  He was the token black person doing pro bono for the firm on meaningless crap while the real lawyers did real work.       

Took the lead in writing a suit to expand voter registration?   LMFAO.  Sounds like a Resume For Dummies line they tell you put in there.     


In other words - he was a do nothing for a month or two before he went to his regularly chooming and grifting ways
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 06, 2018, 03:39:14 PM
O-BUM  was never a real lawyer.   He has always been a ghetto bum and street hustler.   

What do you mean by this? He graduated Havard Law J.D. magna cum laude. He passed the bar and worked as a civil rights attorney at Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland for 11 years. He was a professor at the University of Chicago Law School for 12 years. -Seems pretty real to me.

Do you have similar credentials? If so, do you consider yourself a real lawyer?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on December 06, 2018, 05:00:16 PM
What do you mean by this? He graduated Havard Law J.D. magna cum laude. He passed the bar and worked as a civil rights attorney at Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland for 11 years. He was a professor at the University of Chicago Law School for 12 years. -Seems pretty real to me.

Do you have similar credentials? If so, do you consider yourself a real lawyer?

He was not a law professor; he lectured.  This is not a minor point.  Law professors have students for an entire semester, counsel them, grade their papers, administer tests, etc. 

That he was welcome there for 12 years is significant, though.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 06, 2018, 05:35:18 PM
What do you mean by this? He graduated Havard Law J.D. magna cum laude. He passed the bar and worked as a civil rights attorney at Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland for 11 years. He was a professor at the University of Chicago Law School for 12 years. -Seems pretty real to me.

Do you have similar credentials? If so, do you consider yourself a real lawyer?

He never even tried a case.   He has less experience as a lawyer than a dude who handled traffic tickets -

Jacoby and Meyers would never hire him even in the mail room.  That you voted for him as potus - that is your stain and burden to bear.   Not mine.  Otwink is a joke.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 06, 2018, 07:21:50 PM
He never even tried a case.   He has less experience as a lawyer than a dude who handled traffic tickets -

Jacoby and Meyers would never hire him even in the mail room.  That you voted for him as potus - that is your stain and burden to bear.   Not mine.  Otwink is a joke.

Not that it matters, but you are possibly and technically mistaken. He argued a case before a federal appellate court.

Note, we are discussing Obama's qualifications or lack there of as a real lawyer. We are not discussing who either you or I voted for in 2008, probably because it isn't relevant.

Sorry can't help myself, but how many cases have you tried? I know, I know it isn't pertinent to our discussion, but I felt compelled to ask. You don't have to answer and you probably won't based on your previous ignorance of my questions to you about your profession.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 06, 2018, 09:37:52 PM
He never even tried a case.   He has less experience as a lawyer than a dude who handled traffic tickets -

Jacoby and Meyers would never hire him even in the mail room.  That you voted for him as potus - that is your stain and burden to bear.   Not mine.  Otwink is a joke.

He didn't file for bankruptcy multiple times or brag about groping {sexually assaulting) women...  so get off that friggin Walmart store front quarter a ride high horse of yours.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 06, 2018, 09:47:56 PM
I do not subscribe to any idea that Obama was uneducated. The value of what he was educated/expert in is another story.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 07, 2018, 05:30:14 AM
Not that it matters, but you are possibly and technically mistaken. He argued a case before a federal appellate court.

Note, we are discussing Obama's qualifications or lack there of as a real lawyer. We are not discussing who either you or I voted for in 2008, probably because it isn't relevant.

Sorry can't help myself, but how many cases have you tried? I know, I know it isn't pertinent to our discussion, but I felt compelled to ask. You don't have to answer and you probably won't based on your previous ignorance of my questions to you about your profession.

Many over the last 18 years.   Obama is the Al Sharpton of Lawyers.  No qualifications, worthless, incompetent, ignorant, and unable to perform up to speed.  That is why he went into ghetto organizing.  he could never hack it as a lawyer, on any level.   He was too busy chooming, doing coke and blow, hooking up w people at the bath house, etc.   

Would you ever hire him. 

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on December 07, 2018, 05:52:48 AM
He didn't file for bankruptcy multiple times or brag about groping {sexually assaulting) women...  so get off that friggin Walmart store front quarter a ride high horse of yours.

Do you like admire Obuma ?
I can’t stand the Effeminate Ponce
Think he was an awful president & Joke as a world leader

Opinions vary. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 07, 2018, 09:35:30 AM
He didn't file for bankruptcy multiple times or brag about groping {sexually assaulting) women...  so get off that friggin Walmart store front quarter a ride high horse of yours.

Obama the clown was frequently broke and in credit card debt. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on December 10, 2018, 03:54:41 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 13, 2018, 08:31:16 PM
Joaquin Castro says brother Julián is running for president in 2020
BY CHRIS MILLS RODRIGO - 12/13/18

Joaquín Castro said on Thursday that his brother, Julián Castro, would be running for president in 2020.

“I’ll speak on his behalf here, he’s going to run for president," Joaquín Castro told Stephen Colbert after the host egged Julián Castro on about announcing a potential bid for the White House.

Julián Castro smiled and pointed at his brother, but did not deny the statement.

Julián Castro, a former Housing and Urban Development Secretary, set up an exploratory committee on Wednesday to test out his possible candidacy.

"Americans are ready to climb out of this darkness. We're ready to keep our promises, and we're not going to wait. We're going to work," Castro had said in a video statement posted on a website for the committee.

"That's why I'm exploring a candidacy for president of the United States in 2020."

Julián Castro said he planned to make an official decision about running on Jan. 12.

If he were to run, Julián Castro would likely face a crowded field for the Democratic nomination. Likely contenders also include former Vice President Joe Biden, Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) and Cory Booker (D-N.J.), and Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D-Tx.).

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/421344-joaquin-castro-says-his-brother-julian-is-running-for-president-in-2020
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on December 15, 2018, 06:48:43 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on December 15, 2018, 09:10:48 PM
Joe Biden would be the most "meh" candidate ever.

Another old Democrat.

They need to do better.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 19, 2018, 06:21:35 PM
Absolutely horrible slate of candidates. 

Q-Poll: Biden Tops List of Dem Presidential Hopefuls
By Jeffrey Rodack    |   Wednesday, 19 December 2018
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/quinnipiac-university-joe-biden-democrats-presidential/2018/12/19/id/895138/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 19, 2018, 06:30:24 PM
Absolutely horrible slate of candidates. 

Q-Poll: Biden Tops List of Dem Presidential Hopefuls
By Jeffrey Rodack    |   Wednesday, 19 December 2018
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/quinnipiac-university-joe-biden-democrats-presidential/2018/12/19/id/895138/

yeah, Democrats are screwed
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on December 19, 2018, 08:01:24 PM
Biden is a nightmare for Trump because as an old white man himself he will siphon old, white votes from Trump.  Not too mention Biden all but guarantees that Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin all return to the Democratic column.  Also puts Ohio and Florida back in play.  With all that being said, I'd prefer a younger, more progressive choice than Biden but will be much happier voting for Biden than I was voting for Clinton.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on December 19, 2018, 08:41:25 PM
Biden is a nightmare for Trump because as an old white man himself he will siphon old, white votes from Trump.  Not too mention Biden all but guarantees that Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin all return to the Democratic column.  Also puts Ohio and Florida back in play.  With all that being said, I'd prefer a younger, more progressive choice than Biden but will be much happier voting for Biden than I was voting for Clinton.
Those Biden kissing and touching kids pics will be everywhere, I can't wait!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 19, 2018, 10:26:58 PM
Biden is a nightmare for Trump because as an old white man himself he will siphon old, white votes from Trump.  Not too mention Biden all but guarantees that Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin all return to the Democratic column.  Also puts Ohio and Florida back in play.  With all that being said, I'd prefer a younger, more progressive choice than Biden but will be much happier voting for Biden than I was voting for Clinton.

This is the same man who Democrats repeatedly rejected as a presidential candidate.  Anything can happen, but he has numerous problems.  First and most importantly, he's not that bright.  Second, he hasn't really accomplished anything after spending most of his life on the taxpayer's dime.  Third, his history of gaffes, plagiarism, and (as chaos pointed out) his creepiness will get play, at least on conservative media.  Fourth, he's a terrible debater. 

Other than that he's an outstanding candidate.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 19, 2018, 11:42:04 PM
Chuck sure seems to be growing his hair back somehow.


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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 28, 2018, 10:44:45 AM
Who’s serious about running in 2020? Look at who’s calling the powerbrokers
By Paul Steinhauser | Fox News

CONCORD, N.H. – Longtime New Hampshire lawmaker Lou D’Allesandro says he’s been receiving a lot of out-of-state calls lately.

“It seems like everybody running for president is in the Christmas spirit, because they’re all calling and wishing us happy holidays,” the Democrat, who’s known as the ‘dean’ of the state Senate, told Fox News.

D’Allesandro listed roughly a dozen potential White House hopefuls who’ve reached out to him over the past couple months.

The buzz of activity reflects just how early the 2020 race is getting underway. And it speaks to another layer to the visits being made by potential candidates to early-voting states like New Hampshire and Iowa. Not only are they publicly introducing themselves to voters, but they’re quietly courting Democratic lawmakers and rainmakers who could prove powerful allies in a primary campaign.

The activity is particularly heightened in New Hampshire, the state that for a century has held the first presidential primary.

After Democrats won back the majority in both chambers of the state legislature last month, the new leaders of the state House and Senate quickly took calls from some high-profile figures – who just happen to be commanding 2020 buzz.

House Speaker Steve Shurtleff said he received congratulatory calls from former Vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts.

Elizabeth Warren wants the government to manufacture its own generic drugs, but what would happen during a shutdown?Video
“Being a prior Biden supporter in ’08, it’s always nice to hear from the former vice president,” the longtime state lawmaker from Concord said.

Senate President Donna Soucy said Biden, Booker and Warren phoned her as well. She added that she received calls from a couple other potential White House hopefuls, including Rep. Tim Ryan of Ohio.

“I went to law school with him,” Soucy noted.

Aside from reaching out to state powerbrokers, the potential 2020 contenders are getting ready to staff up.

“There’s probably half a dozen of them that are currently trying to obtain staff,” New Hampshire Democratic Party Chairman Ray Buckley told Fox News.

Among those shopping for Democratic operatives in New Hampshire are Booker, Sen. Jeff Merkley of Oregon and Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii.

Both Booker and Gabbard made trips to the state earlier this month. Booker’s two-day swing – where he keynoted a state Democratic Party 2018 midterm election victory celebration and headlined three jam-packed house parties – appeared to be a tune-up for things to come. And Gabbard attracted an overflow crowd for a meet and greet at a Democratic Party county office. Merkley, meanwhile, has quietly made plenty of friends among the activist class during five trips this year to New Hampshire.

Buckley, who’s served for a decade as state party chairman, said he’s been taking plenty of calls from potential contenders.

“I’m encouraging all of them to consider it,” he shared.

And he said those who have made up their minds ask “my recommendations for staff.”

Outgoing Maryland Rep. John Delaney, meanwhile, was first in – announcing his presidential campaign in July of last year – just six months into Donald Trump’s presidency.

Now, Delaney is first in when it comes to direct mail – with his campaign sending out Christmas cards and mailers to approximately 90,000 Democratic and independent households in New Hampshire in recent days. The mailers – the first in the state by any candidate in the 2020 cycle – were headlined “Want to topple Trump? Take John Delaney seriously.”

Delaney, who’ll have three staffers on the ground when he returns to New Hampshire in a few weeks, visited the state more than a dozen times since announcing his longshot White House bid – in hopes of cementing relationships and building up his relatively low name recognition.

Another potential contender with little name ID – Rep. Eric Swalwell of California – has dropped into the Granite State twice in the past two months.

SWALWELL DECLARES TRUMP'S DAYS OF 'PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY' ARE OVER

Swalwell, who told Fox News he’s “seriously looking at running for president,” held multiple meetings with Democratic lawmakers and activists during his 24-hour trip.

Also laying groundwork during three New Hampshire trips this year is Julian Castro. The former San Antonio, Texas mayor who later served as Housing and Urban Development secretary under then-President Barack Obama recently announced the formation of a presidential exploratory committee.

JULIAN CASTRO SUGGESTS NEW GUARD HAS 2020 EDGE

Former Vice President Biden – who doesn’t need any help when it comes to name recognition – hasn’t stopped in the Granite State since headlining a major state party fundraiser in the spring of 2017.

But some of his top New Hampshire supporters are eagerly awaiting a signal.

Joe Biden is reportedly upset that Barack Obama is meeting with Beto O'Rourke, other potential 2020 challengersVideo
“I’m ready now,” said longtime state Rep. Dan Eaton, a longtime friend of the former vice president who co-chaired Biden’s 2008 presidential campaign in New Hampshire. “I’ll certainly be ready in January and I’ve been keeping contact with several key people, and also lots of new folks.”

While he hasn’t visited here in more than a year and a half, members of Biden’s political team have reached out to top Granite State allies.

“There’s been a reach out from the team just on keeping information up to date and correct,” Eaton shared.

Buckley said the field remains wide open in New Hampshire.

He emphasized that the striking difference between this cycle and the 2016 campaign – when Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign kept primary competition to a minimum – is there’s “no 800-pound gorilla” this time.

“We are going to have multiple opportunities, unlike the limited opportunities that existed in the 2016 cycle, for candidates to be able to participate in forums and debates,” Buckley said. “There are going to be significantly more this time.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whos-serious-about-running-in-2020-look-at-whos-calling-the-powerbrokers
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 28, 2018, 01:11:54 PM
Obama the clown was frequently broke and in credit card debt. 

In a recent interview with David Axelrod, President Obama revealed that after he lost the Democratic primary for the Illinois 1st congressional district in 2000 he was feeling anything but good. He had spent all of his money on his campaign and had a wife and child at home with another on the way. AOL

Frequently?  ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 14, 2019, 06:12:47 PM
Tulsi Gabbard to run for president
By DANIEL STRAUSS 01/11/2019
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/a260ee8/2147483647/resize/1160x/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F66%2F93%2F7c5d05a7482ca44bbfc0758abddb%2Ftulsigabbarbgettyimages-583541300.jpg)
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard said Friday that she is running for president.

“I have decided to run and will be making a formal announcement within the next week,” she said during an interview on CNN's "The Van Jones Show."

Gabbard, a 37-year old combat veteran, has done little to hide her presidential ambitions. She recently made stops in both Iowa and New Hampshire and looked into hiring digital staff and speechwriters. She has also authored a memoir set to be released in May.

Late Friday, in a fundraising email, Gabbard said the reason she was running "has to do with an issue that is central to the rest — war and peace."

She also cited healthcare, immigration reform, clean water and air, criminal justice and special interest influence in Washington.

The Hawaii Democrat's entrance into the presidential primary field comes before an expected wave of similar announcements from higher profile candidates.

A recent Democracy for America survey of the liberal group's members found that about 2 percent said Gabbard should run, behind better known potential 2020 contenders like Sen. Bernie Sanders or former Vice President Joe Biden.

Within her party, the three-term congresswoman is viewed as a maverick with a penchant for bucking party orthodoxy. During the 2016 presidential election, Gabbard stepped down from her post as a vice chair of the Democratic National Committee so she could endorse Sanders, making her one of the few House Democrats to back the Vermont senator over Hillary Clinton during the primary. She has since been associated with the Sanders movement — in her 2018 reelection campaign, she was endorsed by the Sanders-aligned Our Revolution outside group.

Former Massachusetts Sen. Paul G. Kirk, who was a Sanders surrogate alongside Gabbard in 2016, said it’s likely several candidates who backed Sanders in 2016 will join the field.

"From my point of view her running has less to do than who she supported in 2016 than how she feels about the country and what direction and vision she has and how she can make a difference," Kirk said. Kirk added that he would be surprised if "there aren't others who may have supported Sanders that think they have a pretty good opportunity."

During the presidential transition period in 2016, the Hawaii Democrat met with then-President-elect Donald Trump, drawing condemnation from fellow Democrats. She also received widespread criticism in 2017 for meeting with Syrian dictator Bashar Assad.

"There are a lot of reasons for me to make this decision,” Gabbard told Jones. “There are a lot of challenges that are facing the American people that I'm concerned about and that I want to help solve." She pointed to access to health care, criminal justice reform and climate change.

"There is one main issue that is central to the rest, and that is the issue of war and peace," she said. "I look forward to being able to get into this and to talk about it in depth when we make our announcement."

Gabbard will join a field that already includes former Rep. John Delaney of Maryland. Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who will be in New Hampshire this weekend, announced on New Year’s Eve the formation of a presidential exploratory committee. Julian Castro, the former San Antonio mayor and former Housing and Urban Development Secretary, has also formed an exploratory committee. He has an event scheduled for Saturday in his hometown, where he is expected to formally announce his candidacy.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/11/tulsi-gabbard-2020-president-run-1098629
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on January 14, 2019, 06:39:24 PM
It'll be Beto.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on January 14, 2019, 08:16:54 PM
Tulsi Gabbard to run for president
By DANIEL STRAUSS 01/11/2019
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/a260ee8/2147483647/resize/1160x/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F66%2F93%2F7c5d05a7482ca44bbfc0758abddb%2Ftulsigabbarbgettyimages-583541300.jpg)
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard said Friday that she is running for president.

“I have decided to run and will be making a formal announcement within the next week,” she said during an interview on CNN's "The Van Jones Show."

Gabbard, a 37-year old combat veteran, has done little to hide her presidential ambitions. She recently made stops in both Iowa and New Hampshire and looked into hiring digital staff and speechwriters. She has also authored a memoir set to be released in May.

Late Friday, in a fundraising email, Gabbard said the reason she was running "has to do with an issue that is central to the rest — war and peace."

She also cited healthcare, immigration reform, clean water and air, criminal justice and special interest influence in Washington.

The Hawaii Democrat's entrance into the presidential primary field comes before an expected wave of similar announcements from higher profile candidates.

A recent Democracy for America survey of the liberal group's members found that about 2 percent said Gabbard should run, behind better known potential 2020 contenders like Sen. Bernie Sanders or former Vice President Joe Biden.

Within her party, the three-term congresswoman is viewed as a maverick with a penchant for bucking party orthodoxy. During the 2016 presidential election, Gabbard stepped down from her post as a vice chair of the Democratic National Committee so she could endorse Sanders, making her one of the few House Democrats to back the Vermont senator over Hillary Clinton during the primary. She has since been associated with the Sanders movement — in her 2018 reelection campaign, she was endorsed by the Sanders-aligned Our Revolution outside group.

Former Massachusetts Sen. Paul G. Kirk, who was a Sanders surrogate alongside Gabbard in 2016, said it’s likely several candidates who backed Sanders in 2016 will join the field.

"From my point of view her running has less to do than who she supported in 2016 than how she feels about the country and what direction and vision she has and how she can make a difference," Kirk said. Kirk added that he would be surprised if "there aren't others who may have supported Sanders that think they have a pretty good opportunity."

During the presidential transition period in 2016, the Hawaii Democrat met with then-President-elect Donald Trump, drawing condemnation from fellow Democrats. She also received widespread criticism in 2017 for meeting with Syrian dictator Bashar Assad.

"There are a lot of reasons for me to make this decision,” Gabbard told Jones. “There are a lot of challenges that are facing the American people that I'm concerned about and that I want to help solve." She pointed to access to health care, criminal justice reform and climate change.

"There is one main issue that is central to the rest, and that is the issue of war and peace," she said. "I look forward to being able to get into this and to talk about it in depth when we make our announcement."

Gabbard will join a field that already includes former Rep. John Delaney of Maryland. Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who will be in New Hampshire this weekend, announced on New Year’s Eve the formation of a presidential exploratory committee. Julian Castro, the former San Antonio mayor and former Housing and Urban Development Secretary, has also formed an exploratory committee. He has an event scheduled for Saturday in his hometown, where he is expected to formally announce his candidacy.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/11/tulsi-gabbard-2020-president-run-1098629

Nudes, please.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on January 15, 2019, 10:47:41 AM
It'll be Beto.

Well, maybe not if he's discussing getting rid of the Constitution.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 15, 2019, 11:06:17 AM
It'll be Beto.

I think he certainly has to be considered a front runner at this point. Young, tall guy with a decent look. Catchy name, speaks Spanish and has social media appeal.

The problem will be when Beto gets on stage with Trump. He looked flustered and awkward versus Cruz. In the words of Mickey from Rocky "What's going to happen when you face the Champ?"

Trump would bury this guy in front of the entire world.

Head to head versus Trump, I think the Don easily takes Texas, Arizona, Florida, Ohio. Strong favorite in Wisconsin and likely takes Pennsylvania yet again. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on January 15, 2019, 11:22:37 AM
I think he certainly has to be considered a front runner at this point. Young, tall guy with a decent look. Catchy name, speaks Spanish and has social media appeal.

The problem will be when Beto gets on stage with Trump. He looked flustered and awkward versus Cruz. In the words of Mickey from Rocky "What's going to happen when you face the Champ?"

Trump would bury this guy in front of the entire world.

Head to head versus Trump, I think the Don easily takes Texas, Arizona, Florida, Ohio. Strong favorite in Wisconsin and likely takes Pennsylvania yet again.  

 :D



Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 15, 2019, 12:00:04 PM
:D





Pure genius

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 15, 2019, 01:03:45 PM
It'll be Beto.

Good bet, given the obscene amount of money he raised in Texas. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on January 15, 2019, 02:04:16 PM
Good bet, given the obscene amount of money he raised in Texas. 

He flubbed a bit today when asked about immigration.

He made the point about many illegals just being overstayed visas.  When asked how to correct it, he said "I don't know".

I didn't see the interview, so I don't have the context / body language around how he answered.  Sometimes, a straightforward "I don't know" is a good answer, rather than trying to make up some bullshit.

But if it's a stuttering, "uh, I don't know" it means he's caught off guard, and doesn't have an alternative to the wall he's bitching about.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 15, 2019, 03:10:52 PM
He flubbed a bit today when asked about immigration.

He made the point about many illegals just being overstayed visas.  When asked how to correct it, he said "I don't know".

I didn't see the interview, so I don't have the context / body language around how he answered.  Sometimes, a straightforward "I don't know" is a good answer, rather than trying to make up some bullshit.

But if it's a stuttering, "uh, I don't know" it means he's caught off guard, and doesn't have an alternative to the wall he's bitching about.

He, like most of them, lack substance.  They just memorize their talking points and regurgitate them. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Board_SHERIF on January 15, 2019, 03:34:01 PM
He flubbed a bit today when asked about immigration.

He made the point about many illegals just being overstayed visas.  When asked how to correct it, he said "I don't know".

I didn't see the interview, so I don't have the context / body language around how he answered.  Sometimes, a straightforward "I don't know" is a good answer, rather than trying to make up some bullshit.

But if it's a stuttering, "uh, I don't know" it means he's caught off guard, and doesn't have an alternative to the wall he's bitching about.

He is Hussein Oblunder version 2 - totally inept clown of piss
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 15, 2019, 04:00:09 PM
Kirsten Gillibrand Launches 2020 Presidential Exploratory Committee
The New York senator is the latest high-profile Democrat to confirm that she is seriously considering a bid to oust President Donald Trump.
By Marina Fang and Daniel Marans
01/15/2019

NEW YORK ― Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) has launched an exploratory committee to begin raising money for a possible 2020 presidential campaign, she said Tuesday during an appearance on “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.”

“I’m filing an exploratory committee for president of the United States ― tonight!” Gillibrand told host Stephen Colbert, eliciting cheers from the studio audience.

Asked why she was running, Gillibrand replied, “I’m going to run for president of the united states, because as a young mom I am gonna fight for other people’s kids as hard as I fight for my own, which is why I believe health care is a right and not a privilege.

“It’s why I believe we should have better public schools for our kids ― it shouldn’t matter what block you grow up on, and I believe that anybody who wants to work hard enough should be able to get whatever job training they need to earn their way into the middle class,” she continued.

“But you are never gonna accomplish any of these things if you don’t take on the systems of power that make all of that impossible, which is taking on institutional racism, it’s taking on the corruption and greed in Washington, it’s taking on the special interests that write legislation in the dead of night. And I know that I have the compassion, courage and the fearless determination to get that done.”

Gillibrand, who had been widely expected to jump into the race, is the latest high-profile Democrat to confirm that she is seriously considering a bid to oust President Donald Trump in 2020.

In late December, fellow Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) became the first major Democratic figure to officially begin testing the waters for a 2020 run with the creation of an exploratory committee. Last week, former Obama administration Cabinet member Julián Castro and Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) announced their entry into the field.

A number of Gillibrand’s Senate colleagues have been floated as possible 2020 Democratic presidential contenders, including Sens. Kamala Harris (Calif.), Cory Booker (N.J.), Sherrod Brown (Ohio), Amy Klobuchar (Minn.) and Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

Trump’s 2016 defeat of Hillary Clinton, who would have become the first female U.S. president, left Democrats hoping for a slate of several female candidates to challenge Trump in 2020 and make history.

Gillibrand is seen as well-positioned to do so as a frequent critic of Trump ― and a target of his sexist attacks. She has consistently voted against his policies and nominees. In 2017, she called for Trump’s resignation, citing the “numerous” and “credible” sexual harassment and assault allegations against him.

Gillibrand joined the Senate in 2009, appointed to fill the seat vacated by Clinton, who had been named secretary of state under President Barack Obama. The two first met during Clinton’s first Senate campaign in 2000, and Gillibrand came to consider her a mentor. Gillibrand later supported Clinton’s 2008 and 2016 presidential campaigns.

Before joining the Senate, Gillibrand, an attorney, served two years in the House representing New York’s 20th Congressional District, outside of the state capital of Albany. Representing a more conservative and rural area of the state, she was considered a moderate Democrat, and was part of the now-defunct group of Blue Dog Democrats in the House.

As a senator, she took on more progressive positions, later winning a special election in 2010 and a full Senate term in 2012. She handily won re-election last November.

One of Gillibrand’s key issues during her Senate tenure has been advocating for survivors of sexual violence. Long before the Me Too movement, she sponsored legislation to combat sexual misconduct in the workplace, on college campuses and in the military.

When the Me Too movement catalyzed the resignations of a spate of Capitol Hill lawmakers in 2017, Gillibrand led the charge to overhaul a set of arcane congressional policies for addressing sexual misconduct claims.

She, along with the other Democratic women of the Senate, called on then-Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) to resign over mounting sexual misconduct allegations from nearly 10 women. She subsequently generated an extraordinary amount of fury from some progressives and defenders of Franken who blamed her for his downfall, called her a political “opportunist” and pledged not to donate to her campaigns.

Gillibrand also made headlines when she said that former President Bill Clinton, who was accused of sexual misconduct by several women, should have resigned in 1998 after his extramarital affair with then-White House intern Monica Lewinsky became public.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kirsten-gillibrand-2020-presidential-exploratory-committee_us_5c37a3e1e4b0c469d76c52f0
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on January 16, 2019, 06:11:57 AM
Pure genius



Good video, funny guy.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on January 16, 2019, 02:02:43 PM
Good video, funny guy.

-Menu choice - excellent idea.

-Making sure to announce that he picked up the tab. Crass.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 21, 2019, 04:37:47 PM
Democratic Sen. Kamala Harris Says She Is Running for President in 2020
By Reid J. Epstein and Ken Thomas
Updated Jan. 21, 2019
WASHINGTON—California Sen. Kamala Harris said Monday she will seek the Democratic nomination for president, launching a campaign to become the nation’s first woman and second African-American to win the White House.

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Ms. Harris, who served as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general before being elected to the Senate in 2016, made her announcement in a Martin Luther King Jr. Day interview on ABC’s “Good Morning America” and in a video distributed to supporters.

“I am running for president of the United States and I’m very excited about it,” Ms. Harris said. “I love my country and this is a moment in time where I feel a sense of responsibility to fight for who we are.”

The 54-year-old will highlight her career as a prosecutor with the campaign slogan “For the People.” She joins a Democratic field that includes two of her Senate colleagues, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren and Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, along with former U.S. Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro and former Maryland Rep. John Delaney.

The field could grow in the coming weeks with the potential entries of Sens. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Cory Booker of New Jersey, former Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke, former Vice President Joe Biden and others.

Speaking Monday at Washington’s Howard University, where she received an undergraduate degree, Ms. Harris said she was prepared to fight.

“Right now we have an administration that has waged a full-on assault against American institutions and American ideals,” she said. “It is going to be about speaking truth, especially when there is so much that is contrary to truth. It is going to be about regaining the trust of Americans.”

Michael Ahrens, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, said the senator was “arguably the least vetted Democrat running for president,” called her unqualified and out-of-touch and said she had produced a “radically liberal voting record” during her two years in the Senate.

Ms. Harris touted her career as a prosecutor and said that as president she would aim to “keep people safe.” Yet during her announcement interview she faced questions about whether her résumé reflects a candidate more aligned with law enforcement than with minority communities.

Ms. Harris said the nation’s law-enforcement and criminal-justice systems have included “systemic racism” that she will work to change.

“It is a false choice to suggest that communities don’t want law enforcement,” she said. “Most communities do. They don’t want excessive force, they don’t want racial profiling, but nobody should.”

Asked during the news conference if she regretted any of her decisions as a prosecutor, Ms. Harris cited cases in which her office wasn’t able to charge alleged child molesters due to lack of evidence, and instances in which deputy prosecutors hadn’t consulted her on decisions, though she added that she took full responsibility for those matters.

“But I will also say that there is a lot about what I did as a prosecutor that I’m proud of, including a recognition that there are fundamental flaws in the criminal justice system and that this criminal justice system needs to be reformed,” she said.

The Harris campaign plans to rely on her status as the potential first black woman president. African-American voters carry enormous clout in Democratic presidential primaries, having boosted Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton to the last two contested nominations. Her aides also see California’s moving its primary from the end of the nominating calendar to near the beginning as a boon for her candidacy.

Aides noted that her campaign’s colors—red and yellow—are borrowed from the 1972 campaign of Shirley Chisholm, the first black woman to seek the presidency.

Ms. Harris’s first public event as a presidential candidate is scheduled for Friday in South Carolina, where she will address a gala held by her college sorority. She plans to travel to Iowa next week.

Ms. Harris’s campaign platform includes a monthly tax credit of as much as $500 for families earning less than $100,000 a year, reducing maternal mortality rates and bail overhauls to reduce the federal prison population. She has been a staunch opponent of the Trump administration’s immigration policy and was in June the first senator to call for the resignation of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen after the DHS began separating migrant children from their families at the border.

Ms. Harris telegraphed her presidential ambitions as soon as she arrived in Washington. She hired top staffers from the Hillary Clinton campaign to work in her Senate office and became one of the party’s most active figures on social media.

In her two years in Washington, Ms. Harris has established a reputation within the party as a hard-nosed interrogator from her perch as a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, including her questioning last year of Brett Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearing to become a Supreme Court justice.

Ms. Harris recently completed an abbreviated tour for her autobiography, “The Truths We Hold.” The book includes a passage about her work as attorney general in negotiating a multibillion-dollar settlement with five major banks for their role in the foreclosure crisis after the economic downturn a decade ago.

Ms. Harris begins her presidential campaign at a financial disadvantage to Senate colleagues already in the race. Her latest campaign-finance report, which covers a period ending Sept. 30, showed her with $1.7 million in cash on hand. Ms. Gillibrand and Ms. Warren each had more than $10 million in their latest reports.

The daughter of a Jamaican father and Indian mother, Ms. Harris was born in Oakland and raised in the San Francisco Bay Area but spent her teenage years in Montreal after her parents’ divorce.

She was elected San Francisco district attorney in 2003 and California attorney general in 2010 before winning her Senate race in 2016 following the retirement of former Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/democratic-sen-kamala-harris-says-she-is-running-for-president-in-2020-11548073967
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 24, 2019, 02:51:10 PM
Poll: Biden Favored in 2020 by Democrats
By Jeffrey Rodack    |   Thursday, 24 January 2019

President Joe Biden leads possible Democratic presidential contenders, according to a Politico/Morning Consult poll.

Here are the top five hopefuls favored by Democrats:

Biden – 26 percent
Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt. – 16 percent
Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif. – 9 percent
Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass. – 6 percent
Former Rep. Beto O’Rourke, D-Texas – 6 percent

The survey, conducted Jan. 18-22, polled 1,996 registered voters. The margin of error on results from the full survey is 2 percentage points.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/poll-joe-biden-bernie-sanders-kamala-harris/2019/01/24/id/899658/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on January 28, 2019, 10:07:41 AM
Hillary Clinton has not ruled out running for president in 2020, a new report claims.

January 28, 2019

The former US senator and secretary of state has told friends that she is "not closing the doors" on her Oval Office ambitions.

(https://cdn1.img.sputniknews.com/images/106249/54/1062495422.png)

https://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-apos-still-considering-154721924.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 28, 2019, 10:13:34 AM
Hillary Clinton has not ruled out running for president in 2020, a new report claims.

January 28, 2019

The former US senator and secretary of state has told friends that she is "not closing the doors" on her Oval Office ambitions.

(https://cdn1.img.sputniknews.com/images/106249/54/1062495422.png)

https://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-apos-still-considering-154721924.html



She better be more worried about the doors of the mausoleum closing on her.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on January 28, 2019, 07:57:38 PM
Nudes, please.

These'll have to do for now:

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on January 29, 2019, 03:51:24 AM
Top Democrats fear Howard Schultz is a Perot or Nader who could help re-elect Trump

(https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5592f586e4b05c2c34318f5c/960x0.jpg?fit=scale)

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/top-democrats-fear-howard-schultz-is-a-perot-or-nader-who-could-help-re-elect-trump
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 29, 2019, 08:51:38 AM
Top Democrats fear Howard Schultz is a Perot or Nader who could help re-elect Trump

(https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5592f586e4b05c2c34318f5c/960x0.jpg?fit=scale)

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/top-democrats-fear-howard-schultz-is-a-perot-or-nader-who-could-help-re-elect-trump


This guy stepped down when the heat was turned up on his stores. A reverse Perot would be a delight in 2020.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 29, 2019, 09:06:40 AM
Top Democrats fear Howard Schultz is a Perot or Nader who could help re-elect Trump

(https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5592f586e4b05c2c34318f5c/960x0.jpg?fit=scale)

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/top-democrats-fear-howard-schultz-is-a-perot-or-nader-who-could-help-re-elect-trump

I watched about 5 minutes of this guy yesterday just to get a better feel.

Maybe he's going for the milquetoast, boring, middle of the road "Howard" vote but I am just not seeing it.

Even the most boring, drab, all day insurance seminar seemed like a rock concert compared to listening to this corporate npc drone carry on with that dull monotone voice.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 29, 2019, 10:07:09 AM

This guy stepped down when the heat was turned up on his stores. A reverse Perot would be a delight in 2020.

 ;D

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on January 29, 2019, 12:08:47 PM
This kind of aligns with my thoughts on why the Democratic primary is going to be a complete circus.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/42796/democrats-have-serious-radicalism-problem-and-ben-shapiro

Quote
But Democrats, honing in on President Trump’s personal unpopolarity, apparently mistake the public rejection of Trump’s personal foibles for public warmth toward full-scale Leftism. There’s simply no evidence of that. That’s why Democrats are panicking over the possibility of a third party candidate like Howard Schultz, former Starbucks CEO, who could siphon off many anti-Trump votes by not running as a complete loony. There’s room for an anti-Trump centrist in this electorate – and that running space has been created by a Democratic Party beholden to its radical base.

That’s why it will be fascinating to see how Vice President Joe Biden fares in Democratic primaries. Should he lose to someone more in line with the base – a Warren or a Sanders or a Harris – Democrats may face the possibility that Trump’s popularity ratings matter less to the general public than Democrats’ extremism. Democrats see Trump’s 2020 re-election race as a golden opportunity to move further to the Left. But they may find out the hard way that when forced to choose between a vulgarian who doesn’t want to take away their health insurance and a media darling who does, the American people aren’t sure to choose the latter.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 29, 2019, 01:40:09 PM
This kind of aligns with my thoughts on why the Democratic primary is going to be a complete circus.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/42796/democrats-have-serious-radicalism-problem-and-ben-shapiro


I agree.  Good point. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 29, 2019, 01:44:36 PM
I agree.  Good point. 

The Dems are going to nominate a communist end of dstory 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 29, 2019, 01:48:52 PM
The Dems are going to nominate a communist end of dstory 



We've reached critical mass when it comes to the free shit army...any moderate left side candidate will be taken out by an extreme left candidate that promises the most new freebies. Bloomberg and Schultz are not radical enough - they might as well run together as independents.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on January 29, 2019, 01:56:52 PM
This kind of aligns with my thoughts on why the Democratic primary is going to be a complete circus.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/42796/democrats-have-serious-radicalism-problem-and-ben-shapiro


It will be interesting to witness what shakes out from the group of Democratic and Independent hopefuls. There is no automatic nomination by the parties for a sitting president. An incumbent president still has to go through their party's nominating procedure and people are free to run against them. [Google]  Will the Republicans nominate someone other than Trump?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 29, 2019, 02:14:55 PM
The Dems are going to nominate a communist end of dstory 

Do they even have a declared or rumored candidate who isn't a socialist? 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on January 29, 2019, 07:15:02 PM
What are we up to, 20, 25 libtards "announcing" their intentions to run for president? ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on January 29, 2019, 10:15:56 PM
What are we up to, 20, 25 libtards "announcing" their intentions to run for president? ::)

about 6..
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on January 30, 2019, 03:03:34 PM
about 6..

Is Killary included in them ?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on January 30, 2019, 03:45:55 PM
watch out!!!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on January 30, 2019, 04:19:52 PM
about 6..
So it's actually 8 "official" (done some exploratory BS required) and 15 or so publicly "considering" and up to a dozen more that the demoncratic party is "keeping an eye on"
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on January 30, 2019, 06:01:40 PM
What are we up to, 20, 25 libtards "announcing" their intentions to run for president? ::)

It's like finding a needle in a haystack and you don't get to play because you are in the wrong field.;D  You'd think all these Democratic and Independent hopefuls would make you happy. At this point you're picking from a field of one....how could you lose?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on January 30, 2019, 06:52:11 PM
It's like finding a needle in a haystack and you don't get to play because you are in the wrong field.;D  You'd think all these Democratic and Independent hopefuls would make you happy. At this point you're picking from a field of one....how could you lose?
I'll be happy when they move closer to the center. ;)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on January 30, 2019, 09:59:49 PM
Is Killary included in them ?

no
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on January 31, 2019, 04:09:34 PM
no

Ohh - Is She likey to be do you think ?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 01, 2019, 10:07:53 AM
Spartacus is in! Perfect.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/01/politics/cory-booker-announces-presidential-run-2020/index.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 01, 2019, 02:23:39 PM
Spartacus is in! Perfect.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/01/politics/cory-booker-announces-presidential-run-2020/index.html

Going nowhere.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 01, 2019, 06:36:46 PM
Ohh - Is She likey to be do you think ?

I'd be surprised if HRC ran for president again. IMO, the Democratic party is looking at people who fit a different demographic than she does. I imagine you'll see middle-class, female, younger folks with just enough political experience to know what they're doing, but not so much that it can be deeply scrutinized for negative actions. It wouldn't hurt if they were more tech savvy and didn't have the whole dynasty thing going on. I suspect the voters are done with the Clintons....you just never know.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on February 01, 2019, 07:49:45 PM
I don't have a link as it was on live tv while I was meal preppin Monday or Tuesday night on ABC Nightly News.  They were talking about #horizontalharris deciding to run, and brought up Killary.  I immediately looked around the kitchen corner to see the t.v., and waited with baited breath.  The reporter said a close friend of Killary asked her point blank if she was going to run?  The reporter said she was informed Killary's reply was, "Most likely not, but I'd really love to be President"

Not, "I'd really like to bring this country back together". Not, "I think I could really make America better". Not even, "Trump is doing such a shitty job, and I know I could do better".  Nope.  None of those things. 

Just, "....I'd really love to be President"  <----and THAT is why anyone that did their homework did not, and should never vote for Killary.  You see, it was never about her doing right by America.  It was always about her.  The prestige, being the first woman, the accomplishment, the ego stroke, the power, and most of all THE MONEY!!!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 02, 2019, 11:14:26 AM
I'd be surprised if HRC ran for president again. IMO, the Democratic party is looking at people who fit a different demographic than she does. I imagine you'll see middle-class, female, younger folks with just enough political experience to know what they're doing, but not so much that it can be deeply scrutinized for negative actions. It wouldn't hurt if they were more tech savvy and didn't have the whole dynasty thing going on. I suspect the voters are done with the Clintons....you just never know.


Seeing as how she gave it her best shot... and lost she shouldn't try again. If you couldn't beat Trump then, you don't deserve a second chance
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 02, 2019, 01:28:56 PM
Seeing as how she gave it her best shot... and lost she shouldn't try again. If you couldn't beat Trump then, you don't deserve a second chance

Agreed. Anyway, I'm rooting for someone younger.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on February 02, 2019, 02:32:47 PM
Seeing as how she gave it her best shot... and lost she shouldn't try again. If you couldn't beat Trump then, you don't deserve a second chance
Lots of people not deserving a second chance
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 02, 2019, 07:45:23 PM
When Howard Schultz and Bloomberg are too moderate to get DNC backing you know the party is just going to run somebody too radical to win. Seriously, look at this lineup of weirdos and imagine any of them in a debate against Trump.

Warren was bashing Schultz, saying billionaires can't buy the nomination....meanwhile Hillary rigging the primary last time over Bernie is okay.

Just a cesspool of ambition and inauthenticity to choose from if you are a Dem voter.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on February 07, 2019, 04:03:47 AM
YAS QUEEEEEEEEN!!!!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 07, 2019, 04:22:03 AM
When Howard Schultz and Bloomberg are too moderate to get DNC backing you know the party is just going to run somebody too radical to win. Seriously, look at this lineup of weirdos and imagine any of them in a debate against Trump.

Warren was bashing Schultz, saying billionaires can't buy the nomination....meanwhile Hillary rigging the primary last time over Bernie is okay.

Just a cesspool of ambition and inauthenticity to choose from if you are a Dem voter.

I think Schultz at the top of the Democrat ticket gives them their best opportunity with Biden staying out.

You can watch about 5 minutes of each one of the current contenders and their flaws just jump out at you.

Then you take into consideration their lack of any coherent message short of meaningless, non-tangible platitudes and face that against a guy like Trump on stage and it really shows how weak their chances are.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2019, 06:54:31 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/prospective-dem-candidate-amy-klobuchars-treatment-of-staff-led-to-rebuke-from-harry-reid-report


Another harping nutcase. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on February 12, 2019, 03:45:46 AM
Beto drew a massive crowd at his counter-rally last night in his home district of El Paso!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on February 12, 2019, 04:27:22 AM
T-Bone!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 12, 2019, 09:11:46 AM
T-Bone!

Why do these people feel the need to lie to bolster their street cred?

Kamala Harris says she listened to Snoop Dogg, Tupac while smoking weed in college years before they made music
By Brian Flood | Fox News

Kamala Harris says she listened to Snoop Dogg and Tupac in college, yet their albums came out after she graduated
Senator Kamala Harris may have made some inaccurate comments about smoking weed in college while listening to Snoop Dogg and Tupac. The 2020 Democratic presidential contender told New York radio hosts she listened to the rappers in college, but both artists hadn’t appeared on an album by the time she finished school.

California Sen. Kamala Harris claims she listened to Snoop Dogg and Tupac Shakur when she smoked pot in college – but the West Coast rappers weren’t putting out music until years after she graduated.

“I have. And I inhaled. I did inhale,” Harris said when asked if she has smoked weed. “It was a joint.”

KAMALA HARRIS, PUSHING LEGAL MARIJUANA, SAYS SHE SMOKED POT IN COLLEGE: 'AND I INHALED'

Harris made her comments Monday on "The Breakfast Club," the New York City-based nationally syndicated radio program hosted by DJ Envy, Angela Yee and Charlamagne tha God. The program touts that it is “the world’s most dangerous morning show” and is popular in the hip hop community.

The 2020 Democratic presidential contender was then asked what music she listened to when she smoked a joint. Charlamagne tha God bluntly asked, “What was you listening to when you was high? What was on? What song was on?”

Harris quickly responded, “Definitely Snoop, Tupac for sure.”

However, Harris graduated from Howard University in 1986 and was finished with law school by 1989. She was admitted to the State Bar of California in 1990.

POT-SMOKING TIPSTER FINDS OVERWEIGHT FEMALE TIGER IN ABANDONED HOUSTON HOME

Snoop Dogg’s debut album “Doggystyle” was released in 1993. Snoop made music prior to his first album, appearing on Dr. Dre’s 1992 album “The Chronic” and the soundtrack of the 1992 film “Deep Cover,” but they were both released years after Harris finished school.

As for Tupac, his first album “2Pacalypse Now” was released in 1991. The rap legend also recorded music as part of the group Digital Underground, but it was also released in the early 1990s after Harris finished school.

The radio hosts failed to check Harris on the inaccurate info and quickly pivoted to a discussion about current rapper Cardi B.

Harris’ office did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-says-she-listened-to-snoop-dogg-tupac-while-smoking-weed-in-college-years-before-they-made-music
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 12, 2019, 09:21:30 AM
All of these Democratic candidates have the same general message.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 12, 2019, 09:21:52 AM
YAS QUEEEEEEEEN!!!!

The one issue dems are for limited govt..
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 12, 2019, 10:37:11 AM
All of these Democratic candidates have the same general message.

Haven’t read through the whole thread and don’t know if this has already been said but it seems only right for the Dems to have a guy named Castro as their nominee:


https://people.com/chica/julian-castro-presidential-campaign-2020/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 12, 2019, 01:10:15 PM
lol

65 People Line Up for Beto O’Rourke — 22,000 Line Up to See Trump in TEXAS (VIDEO)
by Jim Hoft February 11, 2019
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/02/65-people-line-up-for-beto-orourke-22000-line-up-to-see-trump-in-texas-video/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on February 12, 2019, 04:30:38 PM
Wish more photo/video proof was put out consistently regarding what MSM is telling us vs. truth.

Trump killed Beto's chances in under 5 minutes last night when he mocked him in El Paso.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 18, 2019, 02:42:18 PM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 18, 2019, 02:52:27 PM
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Could have been worse I suppose...


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on February 19, 2019, 03:50:03 AM
White people aren't having children anymore; guess what?!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on February 19, 2019, 03:51:38 AM
You'd think Democrats would cut down on the pandering in 2020 - after ALL the success it had in 2016...  ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on February 19, 2019, 03:53:22 AM
OH BOY!!!!! This time it will be different, I swear! In all honesty, Bernie should run as an Independent and really screw over the Demon-Rats since they were so kind to him last time.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on February 19, 2019, 05:03:51 AM
OH BOY!!!!! This time it will be different, I swear! In all honesty, Bernie should run as an Independent and really screw over the Demon-Rats since they were so kind to him last time.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 21, 2019, 03:16:35 PM
2020 ‘Socialist’ Candidate Bernie Sanders Has 3 Houses, Millions in the Bank
21 Feb 2019
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/21/2020-socialist-candidate-bernie-sanders-3-houses-millions-bank/?fbclid=IwAR0J8of0yAvRhdmEJQ4UWGW83ckL8JNhXznjkRjjbIk9DqN4wt-iorynN8o
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on February 21, 2019, 03:53:04 PM
Not only is everything going to be free...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 21, 2019, 03:55:23 PM
Not only is everything going to be free...

There is a growing movement known as ADOS - American Descendents of Slavery, who have been putting increased pressure on these Democrat candidates.

It will be interesting to see how much of an influence that plays in the upcoming race.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on February 21, 2019, 05:57:47 PM


His agenda list is in the wrong order, but ended right.  If he started his POTUS agend with "Dream" the list would have been done.  His chances are a dream, and nothing more.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on February 22, 2019, 02:10:20 AM
His agenda list is in the wrong order, but ended right.  If he started his POTUS agend with "Dream" the list would have been done.  His chances are a dream, and nothing more.

 it will end with "Wake Up" and "Cry at DNC Convention, AGAIN"
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 22, 2019, 05:04:11 PM
lol

65 People Line Up for Beto O’Rourke — 22,000 Line Up to See Trump in TEXAS (VIDEO)
by Jim Hoft February 11, 2019
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/02/65-people-line-up-for-beto-orourke-22000-line-up-to-see-trump-in-texas-video/

You have to admit Beto O'Rourke has a catchy name. The U.S. has had a number of presidents, both democrat and republican, with Irish heritage. Beto has a smile similar to JFK's. O'Rourk is 47 years old. JFK was age 42 when he became president. Both O'Rouke and JFK have slim builds.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/Beto_O%27Rourke%2C_Official_portrait%2C_113th_Congress.jpg/1200px-Beto_O%27Rourke%2C_Official_portrait%2C_113th_Congress.jpg)

(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/jfk-photographs-john-f-kennedy-auction-805179.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on February 22, 2019, 06:13:31 PM
You have to admit Beto O'Rourke has a catchy name. The U.S. has had a number of presidents, both democrat and republican, with Irish heritage. Beto has a smile similar to JFK's. O'Rourk is 47 years old. JFK was age 42 when he became president. Both O'Rouke and JFK have slim builds.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/Beto_O%27Rourke%2C_Official_portrait%2C_113th_Congress.jpg/1200px-Beto_O%27Rourke%2C_Official_portrait%2C_113th_Congress.jpg)

(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/jfk-photographs-john-f-kennedy-auction-805179.jpg)
His name is Robert
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on February 22, 2019, 07:16:14 PM
Beta O'Rourke.  Catchy like influenza and just as welcome. 

FTN.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 22, 2019, 09:25:27 PM
Wish more photo/video proof was put out consistently regarding what MSM is telling us vs. truth.

Trump killed Beto's chances in under 5 minutes last night when he mocked him in El Paso.

What Americans who aren't a fan of Trump need is an independent to rise up in the next year... the Democrats so far are disappointing. I am with many of the Trump supporters in that what America needs is someone who isn't a career politician, and who doesn't give a crap about special interest. Where i am separated from them is on my belief we don't need an egotistical self absorbed pathological lying sociopath. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on February 23, 2019, 05:56:22 AM
You have to admit Beto O'Rourke has a catchy name. The U.S. has had a number of presidents, both democrat and republican, with Irish heritage. Beto has a smile similar to JFK's. O'Rourk is 47 years old. JFK was age 42 when he became president. Both O'Rouke and JFK have slim builds.

Now compare their accomplishments.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on February 23, 2019, 07:03:05 AM
What Americans who aren't a fan of Trump need is an independent to rise up in the next year... the Democrats so far are disappointing. I am with many of the Trump supporters in that what America needs is someone who isn't a career politician, and who doesn't give a crap about special interest. Where i am separated from them is on my belief we don't need an egotistical self absorbed pathological lying sociopath. 
Pretty much a requirement to run for president. ;)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 23, 2019, 11:54:33 AM
o comments.

Amy Klobuchar reportedly ordered staffer to clean comb after she used it to eat salad
Fox News ^ | 22 Feb 19 | Brooke Singman
Posted on 2/22/2019, 8:26:02 PM by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Democratic presidential candidate Amy Klobuchar on Friday faced fresh accusations of belittling staffers, with a new report relaying a bizarre allegation that she'd berated a staff member for failing to bring her a fork with her salad.

The alleged confrontation, as reported by The New York Times, got weird.

According to the newspaper, the aide who neglected to get plastic utensils for Senator Klobuchar, D-Minn., committed the affront at an airport while traveling to South Carolina in 2008. Klobuchar not only chastised the aide, but reportedly proceeded to eat the salad using a comb from her bag -- then handed the comb to the aide and told him to clean it.

The anecdote swiftly became social media fodder late Friday, but also added to the many claims of Klobuchar demeaning staff members over the course of her Senate career.

A spokesperson for Klobuchar did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment on the Times article, which contained other accounts of the senator tearing into staff.

According to the report, former aides said she was "not just demanding, but often dehumanizing."

Another recent report said Klobuchar often criticized staffers and directed them to “only speak when spoken to” at events. The Huffington Post reported that the conduct got to a point that then-Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told her to change her behavior.

During an interview with Fox News' Bret Baier last week, though, Klobuchar said she spoke with Reid, and “he doesn’t remember that and I don’t remember that either.”

But according to a Buzzfeed News report, numerous staffers said Klobuchar routinely sent late-night emails and berated subordinates over minor details and missteps.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...

TOPICS: News/Cu
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on February 23, 2019, 02:02:13 PM
You have to admit Beto O'Rourke has a catchy name. The U.S. has had a number of presidents, both democrat and republican, with Irish heritage. Beto has a smile similar to JFK's. O'Rourk is 47 years old. JFK was age 42 when he became president. Both O'Rouke and JFK have slim builds.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/Beto_O%27Rourke%2C_Official_portrait%2C_113th_Congress.jpg/1200px-Beto_O%27Rourke%2C_Official_portrait%2C_113th_Congress.jpg)

(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/jfk-photographs-john-f-kennedy-auction-805179.jpg)


So he's worthy of consideration for becoming POTUS in your mind out of nostalgia, a "catchy" name, heritage, and the fact that you find him handsome? ???

White supremacists are nostalgic about slavery and the holocaust, one is "likely" to have a "catchy" name, is irish(?), and many might consider such a man handsome as well....

Interesting......I'm not sure of David Duke's family lineage, but he could easily pass for Irish with his pasty skin and hair.  Fuck it....if we're gonna ignore all flaws, and use your criteria I guess Duke and Beto should be the next two candidates that face off...............IN 2024! ;)
 ::)

Sometimes I wonder if there's ever any hope of getting through to you.  This is one of those times. :'(
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on February 23, 2019, 02:17:15 PM
What Americans who aren't a fan of Trump need is an independent to rise up in the next year... the Democrats so far are disappointing. I am with many of the Trump supporters in that what America needs is someone who isn't a career politician, and who doesn't give a crap about special interest. Where i am separated from them is on my belief we don't need an egotistical self absorbed pathological lying sociopath.  

I don't see any evidence of Trump being a sociopath.  Jussie Smollet is a sociopath....there is no real comparison of these two personalities other than ego, narcissism, lying (one now holds the world record of all lies), and being self-absorbed.

I think we can all agree that an inflated ego, and an enormous amount of self-importance are two pre-reqs for running for POTUS.  I think we can all agree also that none of us has ever in our lives; met someone with those traits that did not speak in a grandiose manner, and who we thought was not a bit of an asshole/bitch and full of shit to some extent...can we not???

Great...now we finally have some common ground in this thread!!!  8)

So, if we are all in agreement on that...and if we're all being 100% honest, I think we should be.......I ask where shall we find this unicorn you'd like to see run for POTUS? ???

No suggestion?  Shocking! ::)

By the way.....I'll narrow your search.  That person is not mentioned in the story quoted below. >:(


o comments.

Amy Klobuchar reportedly ordered staffer to clean comb after she used it to eat salad
Fox News ^ | 22 Feb 19 | Brooke Singman
Posted on 2/22/2019, 8:26:02 PM by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Democratic presidential candidate Amy Klobuchar on Friday faced fresh accusations of belittling staffers, with a new report relaying a bizarre allegation that she'd berated a staff member for failing to bring her a fork with her salad.

The alleged confrontation, as reported by The New York Times, got weird.

According to the newspaper, the aide who neglected to get plastic utensils for Senator Klobuchar, D-Minn., committed the affront at an airport while traveling to South Carolina in 2008. Klobuchar not only chastised the aide, but reportedly proceeded to eat the salad using a comb from her bag -- then handed the comb to the aide and told him to clean it.

The anecdote swiftly became social media fodder late Friday, but also added to the many claims of Klobuchar demeaning staff members over the course of her Senate career.

A spokesperson for Klobuchar did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment on the Times article, which contained other accounts of the senator tearing into staff.

According to the report, former aides said she was "not just demanding, but often dehumanizing."

Another recent report said Klobuchar often criticized staffers and directed them to “only speak when spoken to” at events. The Huffington Post reported that the conduct got to a point that then-Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told her to change her behavior.

During an interview with Fox News' Bret Baier last week, though, Klobuchar said she spoke with Reid, and “he doesn’t remember that and I don’t remember that either.”

But according to a Buzzfeed News report, numerous staffers said Klobuchar routinely sent late-night emails and berated subordinates over minor details and missteps.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...

TOPICS: News/Cu
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 24, 2019, 09:07:17 PM
Pretty much a requirement to run for president. ;)

That would be shame on us.. right?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 24, 2019, 09:08:06 PM
I don't see any evidence of Trump being a sociopath.  Jussie Smollet is a sociopath....there is no real comparison of these two personalities other than ego, narcissism, lying (one now holds the world record of all lies), and being self-absorbed.

I think we can all agree that an inflated ego, and an enormous amount of self-importance are two pre-reqs for running for POTUS.  I think we can all agree also that none of us has ever in our lives; met someone with those traits that did not speak in a grandiose manner, and who we thought was not a bit of an asshole/bitch and full of shit to some extent...can we not???

Great...now we finally have some common ground in this thread!!!  8)

So, if we are all in agreement on that...and if we're all being 100% honest, I think we should be.......I ask where shall we find this unicorn you'd like to see run for POTUS? ???

No suggestion?  Shocking! ::)

By the way.....I'll narrow your search.  That person is not mentioned in the story quoted below. >:(



that would be your problem
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on February 24, 2019, 10:05:30 PM
that would be your problem

That's fine...I'll accept that problem, and deal with wearing egg on my face if I'm wrong.

Now, how about you address the rest?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on February 25, 2019, 08:48:03 AM
That would be shame on us.. right?
Let me know when you find a politician that doesn't fit that criteria.
Speaking of egos, self absorbed and lying...how's that new face of the demoncrat party working out for you guys?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 25, 2019, 04:48:30 PM
His name is Robert

It is Robert Francis O'Rouke, to be exact. Like you and I, he has a handle which in this case is also his nickname. The public knows him as Beto. I'll give you this, in the political arena, Chaos is better than Primemuscle. In fact, it would be a great handle for your boy Trump because that's what he creates.  ;)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on February 25, 2019, 04:51:33 PM
It is Robert Francis O'Rouke, to be exact. Like you and I, he has a handle which in this case is also his nickname. The public knows him as Beto. I'll give you this, in the political arena, Chaos is better than Primemuscle. In fact, it would be a great handle for your boy Trump because that's what he creates.  ;)

Watch the video

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 12, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
There are so many things wrong with this, including:

1.  Who the heck cares what color, gender, orientation, etc. a person is?  All I care about is whether they can do the job.  He or she could be a green, gay, disabled son of an immigrant and I wouldn't care, so long as they are competent.   

2.  Democrats don't want a straight white male as their nominee, but the two leading contenders in this poll are straight white males. 

3.  Inslee is apparently not smart enough to figure out that he is being discriminated against for a being a straight white male.

Inslee: I Have ‘Humility About Being a Straight White Male’
BY: Andrew Kugle    
March 10, 2019

Washington governor and 2020 candidate Jay Inslee (D.) said on Sunday he thinks he has humility about being a straight white male, saying he recognizes the advantages he's received as a result of that identity.

"Our new CNN/Des Moines Register poll shows only 38 percent of likely Democratic caucus-goers in Iowa say they would be satisfied with a straight white male nominee," CNN anchor Jake Tapper said. "So why are you as a straight white male the right person to lead the Democratic party if there's so much skepticism from Democrats in Iowa?"

"I think I have a humility about being a straight white male that I have never experienced discrimination like so many do. I've never been pulled over as an African-American teenager by an officer driving through a white neighborhood. I've never been a woman talked over in a meeting," Inslee responded.

The 2020 candidate, who announced his candidacy March 1, said because he hasn't faced discrimination in the same way, he approaches governance with humility.

"That's why I've been so dedicated to a 25-year public career of advancing justice in our society, of making sure that we have as much diversity as possible in the 2,000 people I've appointed—and we have done really well in that regard—of making sure the people work with me have to go through bias training so they understand how implicit bias can really discriminate, doing criminal justice reform," he said.

The latest CNN/Des Moines Register poll also showed two straight white males leading the Democratic primary. Former Vice President Joe Biden leads with 27 percent and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) is second with 25 percent.

Sahil Kapur

@sahilkapur
 New Iowa Poll: @DMRegister / CNN

Biden 27%
Sanders 25%
Warren 9%
Harris 7%
O’Rourke 5%
Booker 3%
Klobuchar 3%
Castro 1%
Bennet 1%
Buttigieg 1%
Bullock 1%
Delaney 1%
Inslee 1%https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2019/03/10/election-2020-joe-biden-bernie-sanders-harris-warren-democrats-iowa-caucuses-poll-president-caucus/3098982002/ …

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"During my time in office I've been very, very committed to making this more just, open and tolerant society. That's one of the reasons Washington is so successful," Inslee added.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/inslee-i-have-humility-about-being-a-straight-white-male/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 13, 2019, 01:14:58 AM
Ask Hillary how running while not being yourself works out. Of course she had no other option being horribly cold and unlikeable than to fix the primary against Bernie.

In that current lineup Biden is much more moderate(in comparison) and experienced it's not even funny:

Sanders is one notch above Dennis Kucinich on the nut scale. 40 years in office and didn't do anything really. His supporters - both poor and rich/overeducated/underworked - are voting for freebies.

Warren is an unlikable elitist liar like Hillary. Just listen to her talk...terribly awkward and has the gift of gaffe.

Harris is making radical policy promises to increase her stock. Opportunist. She speaks well though and could fix Biden's ticket as veep.

O'Rourke couldn't beat Cruz....nuff said. He's going nowhere. He's not that bright to boot.

Booker. Just why?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 14, 2019, 04:00:46 PM
Beto O'Rourke Announces His Run For President In 2020
March 14, 2019
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/14/676803365/beto-orourke-announces-his-run-for-president-in-2020
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 14, 2019, 05:45:19 PM
Beto O'Rourke Announces His Run For President In 2020
March 14, 2019
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/14/676803365/beto-orourke-announces-his-run-for-president-in-2020

He said he is a capitalist today.  He is going nowhere
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 14, 2019, 05:50:29 PM
Beto O'Rourke Announces His Run For President In 2020
March 14, 2019
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/14/676803365/beto-orourke-announces-his-run-for-president-in-2020

I can't wait for that guy and all his flaws to be exposed in front of the entire world.

A total empty suit whose only claim to fame is some stupid nickname.

Even as weak as the Democratic field is, they will still make mincemeat out of Robert Francis.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 14, 2019, 06:24:45 PM
I don't see any evidence of Trump being a sociopath.  Jussie Smollet is a sociopath....there is no real comparison of these two personalities other than ego, narcissism, lying (one now holds the world record of all lies), and being self-absorbed.

I think we can all agree that an inflated ego, and an enormous amount of self-importance are two pre-reqs for running for POTUS. Think Jimmy Carter, George Bush Jr I think we can all agree also that none of us has ever in our lives; met someone with those traits that did not speak in a grandiose manner, and who we thought was not a bit of an asshole/bitch and full of shit to some extent...can we not???

Great...now we finally have some common ground in this thread!!!  8)

So, if we are all in agreement on that...and if we're all being 100% honest, I think we should be.......I ask where shall we find this unicorn you'd like to see run for POTUS? ???

No suggestion?  Shocking! ::)

By the way.....I'll narrow your search.  That person is not mentioned in the story quoted below. >:(


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Board_SHERIF on March 14, 2019, 06:27:27 PM
I can't wait for that guy and all his flaws to be exposed in front of the entire world.

A total empty suit whose only claim to fame is some stupid nickname.

Even as weak as the Democratic field is, they will still make mincemeat out of Robert Francis.

Same as the Gay Muslim then...but actually born in USA ?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 14, 2019, 06:33:51 PM
Same as the Gay Muslim then...but actually born in USA ?

Except, and I know this is hard for you to swallow, Obama wasn't and isn't Muslim and likely not gay, and he was born in the USA. The sooner you accept that, the sooner we can start reading your posts again  
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on March 14, 2019, 07:16:33 PM
Same as the Gay Muslim then...but actually born in USA ?

Clinical projection
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 14, 2019, 07:18:03 PM
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on March 14, 2019, 08:03:07 PM
Same as the Gay Muslim then...but actually born in USA ?

Let's pretend Beta has even a remote chance of winning the primary.  Last three candidates of the dem would be.


Black Man - even wears dad pants too high
Woman - wears suit pants
Beta boy - wears mom jeans

Seems like the candidates mirror the confusion of the party, and it's voters.

We all know if BO becomes any type of threat, especially if he gets to debate Trump.....Trump is going to mispronounce his name, and pretend like he couldn't hear the correction multiple times.  It will rile up the base that have had enough of this fucking apologizing for being a man bullshit
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 14, 2019, 08:31:37 PM
Let's pretend Beta has even a remote chance of winning the primary.  Last three candidates of the dem would be.


Black Man - even wears dad pants too high
Woman - wears suit pants
Beta boy - wears mom jeans

Seems like the candidates mirror the confusion of the party, and it's voters.

We all know if BO becomes any type of threat, especially if he gets to debate Trump.....Trump is going to mispronounce his name, and pretend like he couldn't hear the correction multiple times.  It will rile up the base that have had enough of this fucking apologizing for being a man bullshit

So you are saying Trumps inability to pronounce a name is enough to rile up the right? seems a bit sad don't you think? Are they that easily led?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: James on March 14, 2019, 09:55:10 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1qaH_6WoAI7ZRq.png)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 15, 2019, 10:30:31 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1qaH_6WoAI7ZRq.png)

lol   ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 15, 2019, 10:35:19 AM
Watch the video



Stop giving me orders.  ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 15, 2019, 10:45:50 AM
Ask Hillary how running while not being yourself works out. Of course she had no other option being horribly cold and unlikeable than to fix the primary against Bernie.

In that current lineup Biden is much more moderate(in comparison) and experienced it's not even funny:

Sanders is one notch above Dennis Kucinich on the nut scale. 40 years in office and didn't do anything really. His supporters - both poor and rich/overeducated/underworked - are voting for freebies.

Warren is an unlikable elitist liar like Hillary. Just listen to her talk...terribly awkward and has the gift of gaffe.

Harris is making radical policy promises to increase her stock. Opportunist. She speaks well though and could fix Biden's ticket as veep.

O'Rourke couldn't beat Cruz....nuff said. He's going nowhere. He's not that bright to boot.

Booker. Just why?

Thing is, the media loves O'Rourke so he's getting a lot of attention from them....some of it negative. Heck, the guy spontaneously jumps up on a bar and informally talks/campaigns to people while waving his arms around. He may lack substance, but then Trump knew/knows nothing about politics, the U.S. constitution, or how things work in government, etc. and he got elected.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 15, 2019, 11:04:35 AM
I can't wait for that guy and all his flaws to be exposed in front of the entire world.

A total empty suit whose only claim to fame is some stupid nickname.

Even as weak as the Democratic field is, they will still make mincemeat out of Robert Francis.

I mostly agree with your assessment. Here's the thing, if O'Rourke gets enough support from the populous, he stands a chance of being nominated. Unlike HRC, he doesn't come off aloof and unlikeable, he doesn't appear like a grouch like Sanders does and he doesn't have "one foot in the grave" like the current democratic front runner, VP Biden.

2020 Democratic Primary Odds: Beto O’Rourke, Kamala Harris Lead Field

https://www.actionnetwork.com/politics/beto-orourke-kamala-harris-julian-castro-running-president-odds-democratic-primary-2020

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on March 15, 2019, 04:18:57 PM
Except, and I know this is hard for you to swallow, Obama wasn't and isn't Muslim and likely not gay, and he was born in the USA. The sooner you accept that, the sooner we can start reading your posts again  


Are you certain you want to use the phrase "hard for you to swallow" in the same sentences a "Obama"?  Especially since it is a rebuke to claims of his being a schmOebama...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 15, 2019, 05:19:59 PM

Are you certain you want to use the phrase "hard for you to swallow" in the same sentences a "Obama"?  Especially since it is a rebuke to claims of his being a schmOebama...

You're probably trying to be funny. In reality, you just can't seem to get your mind off gay sex. Wonder why?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on March 15, 2019, 09:24:30 PM
You're probably trying to be funny. In reality, you just can't seem to get your mind off gay sex. Wonder why?

Typist. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on March 15, 2019, 09:40:00 PM
I mostly agree with your assessment. Here's the thing, if O'Rourke gets enough support from the populous, he stands a chance of being nominated. Unlike HRC, he doesn't come off aloof and unlikeable, he doesn't appear like a grouch like Sanders does and he doesn't have "one foot in the grave" like the current democratic front runner, VP Biden.

2020 Democratic Primary Odds: Beto O’Rourke, Kamala Harris Lead Field

https://www.actionnetwork.com/politics/beto-orourke-kamala-harris-julian-castro-running-president-odds-democratic-primary-2020

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I didn't know he was an actor?  Bottom pic is from the gay porno "Coyote Snuggly"?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on March 15, 2019, 09:45:42 PM
Thing is, the media loves O'Rourke so he's getting a lot of attention from them....some of it negative. Heck, the guy spontaneously jumps up on a bar and informally talks/campaigns to people while waving his arms around. He may lack substance, but then Trump knew/knows nothing about politics, the U.S. constitution, or how things work in government, etc. and he got elected.

It's crazy how a guy that knows nothing about politics has gotten a new trade deal with CAN and MEX, gotten pocket rocket boy to chill, strengthened our military, has achieved record unemployment, and the stock market has nearly doubled.  What dumb luck that guy has ::)

Your problem is you're butthurt by words, and you mistake fashion and popularity for substance.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on March 15, 2019, 09:48:45 PM
So you are saying Trumps inability to pronounce a name is enough to rile up the right? seems a bit sad don't you think? Are they that easily led?

I'm saying Trump will intentionally clown him, and yes it will rile people up and it will also convince the left that Beta is just that and would have no chance of going toe to toe with Iran, Putin, China, Pocket Rocket, or even that dumb bitch from NZ.

I seriously think that if he made it to the general election Trump would likely be able to get him to cry.  Not even exaggerating a little. 8)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on March 16, 2019, 06:02:24 AM
I didn't know he was an actor?  Bottom pic is from the gay porno "Coyote Snuggly"?

Well done.  ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 16, 2019, 11:42:24 AM
I'm saying Trump will intentionally clown him, and yes it will rile people up and it will also convince the left that Beta is just that and would have no chance of going toe to toe with Iran, Putin, China, Pocket Rocket, or even that dumb bitch from NZ.

I seriously think that if he made it to the general election Trump would likely be able to get him to cry.  Not even exaggerating a little. 8)

I think Trump would certainly try. He is a classic schoolyard rich kids bully. That's part of the reason I can't stand Trump. I don't know why grown ups applaud this behavior   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2019, 02:27:57 PM
beto O’Rourke Apologizes For Writing Fictional Fantasies About Plowing Over Children With A Car
dailycaller.com ^ | 3/15/2019 | Chris White
Posted on 3/16/2019, 1:59:24 PM by rktman

Beto O’Rourke apologized Friday night for writings the former Texas representative made as a teenager describing fantasies about running over children with a vehicle.

“I’m mortified to read it now, incredibly embarrassed, but I have to take ownership of my words,” the Democratic presidential candidate said during a taping of the “Political Party Live” podcast in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. “Whatever my intention was as a teenager doesn’t matter, I have to look long and hard at my actions, at the language I have used, and I have to constantly try to do better.”

His comments come after a report Friday revealed O’Rourke wrote prose when he was a teenager describing a scenario in which he would accelerate a car into a group of children while hearing them scream. The report also showed he was a secret member of a hacking group called the “Cult of the Dead Cow,” which focused on showing people how to hack Microsoft computers.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...

TOPICS: Constitution/Conse
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 17, 2019, 06:39:26 AM
Kirsten Gillibrand officially jumps into 2020 race, teases speech at Trump hotel in New York

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(CNN) Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand officially jumped in the 2020 presidential race on Sunday by declaring her Democratic candidacy with a campaign video titled "Brave Wins."

"Brave doesn't pit people against one another. Brave doesn't put money over lives. Brave doesn't spread hate, cloud truth, build a wall. That's what fear does," Gillibrand says over news footage, including of President Donald Trump.

The New York Democrat launched an exploratory campaign in January, announcing it on CBS' "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert," and has spent the past two months traveling to key states.

Toward the end of the more than two-minute long video released on Sunday, Gillibrand, speaking directly to the camera, announces she's running for president.

The video ends with an invitation to join Gillibrand at the Trump International Hotel on March 24, where she plans to deliver "her positive, brave vision of restoring America's moral integrity straight to President Trump's doorstep," her campaign said in an announcement accompanying the video.

"We need to remember what it feels like to be brave," she says. "We launched ourselves into space and landed on the moon. If we can do that, we can definitely achieve universal health care. We can provide paid family leave for all, end gun violence, pass a Green New Deal, get money out of politics and take back our democracy. None of this is impossible."

"Americans are brave every day. ... And its these brave choices that inspire me to take on the fights others won't," Gillibrand says.

She'll begin her official campaign with a trip to Michigan, a once solidly blue state that Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton lost to Trump.

Her first week as a declared candidate will include a visit to the early voting states of Iowa and Nevada, and culminate with her speech on March 24 in front of the Trump International Hotel.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/03/17/politics/kirsten-gillibrand-presidential-campaign-2020/index.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on March 17, 2019, 06:57:02 AM
Kirsten Gillibrand officially jumps into 2020 race, teases speech at Trump hotel in New York

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(CNN) Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand officially jumped in the 2020 presidential race on Sunday by declaring her Democratic candidacy with a campaign video titled "Brave Wins."

"Brave doesn't pit people against one another. Brave doesn't put money over lives. Brave doesn't spread hate, cloud truth, build a wall. That's what fear does," Gillibrand says over news footage, including of President Donald Trump.

The New York Democrat launched an exploratory campaign in January, announcing it on CBS' "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert," and has spent the past two months traveling to key states.

Toward the end of the more than two-minute long video released on Sunday, Gillibrand, speaking directly to the camera, announces she's running for president.

The video ends with an invitation to join Gillibrand at the Trump International Hotel on March 24, where she plans to deliver "her positive, brave vision of restoring America's moral integrity straight to President Trump's doorstep," her campaign said in an announcement accompanying the video.

"We need to remember what it feels like to be brave," she says. "We launched ourselves into space and landed on the moon. If we can do that, we can definitely achieve universal health care. We can provide paid family leave for all, end gun violence, pass a Green New Deal, get money out of politics and take back our democracy. None of this is impossible."

"Americans are brave every day. ... And its these brave choices that inspire me to take on the fights others won't," Gillibrand says.

She'll begin her official campaign with a trip to Michigan, a once solidly blue state that Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton lost to Trump.

Her first week as a declared candidate will include a visit to the early voting states of Iowa and Nevada, and culminate with her speech on March 24 in front of the Trump International Hotel.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/03/17/politics/kirsten-gillibrand-presidential-campaign-2020/index.html

Golly...She's soooooooo brave. ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on March 17, 2019, 07:16:23 AM
O'Rourke has stated he wants to tear down texas borders.

That should easily be used against him.

Also, if you google "Beto O'Rourke open borders" you get drastically different results on google an duckduckgo.

The google ones have quick hits about how he absolutely doesn't want open borders.  The ddg one shows all his comments about tearing down the texas walls.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on March 17, 2019, 11:39:50 AM
O'Rourke has stated he wants to tear down texas borders.

That should easily be used against him.

Also, if you google "Beto O'Rourke open borders" you get drastically different results on google an duckduckgo.

The google ones have quick hits about how he absolutely doesn't want open borders.  The ddg one shows all his comments about tearing down the texas walls.


Bollocks to biased Google.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on March 17, 2019, 12:46:13 PM
Is that Beto O’Rourke to the left? And why is he wearing a dress?

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on March 17, 2019, 01:24:05 PM
Is that Beto O’Rourke to the left? And why is he wearing a dress?

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Unfortunately that’s not even the worst pic of him that has surfaced.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on March 17, 2019, 01:30:39 PM
Is that Beto O’Rourke to the left? And why is he wearing a dress?

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Because Beto’s a Beta Male Ponce.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on March 17, 2019, 01:49:47 PM
Unfortunately that’s not even the worst pic of him that has surfaced.

Worse than wearing a dress?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 17, 2019, 04:02:56 PM
beto O’Rourke Apologizes For Writing Fictional Fantasies About Plowing Over Children With A Car
dailycaller.com ^ | 3/15/2019 | Chris White
Posted on 3/16/2019, 1:59:24 PM by rktman

Beto O’Rourke apologized Friday night for writings the former Texas representative made as a teenager describing fantasies about running over children with a vehicle.

“I’m mortified to read it now, incredibly embarrassed, but I have to take ownership of my words,” the Democratic presidential candidate said during a taping of the “Political Party Live” podcast in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. “Whatever my intention was as a teenager doesn’t matter, I have to look long and hard at my actions, at the language I have used, and I have to constantly try to do better.”

His comments come after a report Friday revealed O’Rourke wrote prose when he was a teenager describing a scenario in which he would accelerate a car into a group of children while hearing them scream. The report also showed he was a secret member of a hacking group called the “Cult of the Dead Cow,” which focused on showing people how to hack Microsoft computers.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...

TOPICS: Constitution/Conse

Next up, candidates will apologize for pooping their diapers when they were an infant and the Daily Caller will be sure to make a big deal about it. Then you'll post it on Getbig despite it's irrelevancy to their running for a political office.

Guess I can never run for office because as an angry teenager, I once mentally explored the possibility of killing both my parents.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on March 17, 2019, 05:16:31 PM
Worse than wearing a dress?

Yeah - naked with words like "feminist" and stuff written on him.

Don't know if real.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 18, 2019, 07:38:29 PM
SF meets Andrew Yang, a presidential candidate who’s attracting support from Millennials

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The unlikely presidential run of Andrew Yang, who is proposing a $1,000-a-month “freedom dividend” to every adult in America, rolled Friday into San Francisco, where some 3,000 supporters listened to the New York tech entrepreneur warn about how artificial intelligence and robotics are taking jobs.

The 44-year-old son of Taiwanese immigrants who met each other at UC Berkeley has already surpassed expectations — virtually nonexistent when he got into the race — by inspiring enough donations to qualify for the Democratic primary debate in June.


Yang outlined his idea for guaranteed universal income to a young, exuberant crowd of mostly Millennials at an outdoor soccer field lined with food trucks on Mission Bay Boulevard North.

Many also held placards and chanted the word “Math,” which has become a campaign mantra for Yang, who founded Venture for America, a fellowship program for entrepreneurs.

More than 66,000 donors have contributed over $350,000 to the campaign this month, an impressive performance for a candidate who seemingly came out of nowhere. Only about 1 percent of Democratic voters have expressed support for the resident of New York City in recent polls, but that’s no worse than his intrastate rival Kirsten Gillibrand and his popularity on social media has been soaring

He said the idea has not only had wide historical support — including from founding father Thomas Paine, the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Nobel Prize-winning economist Milton Friedman — but it has already been implemented in Alaska, which uses oil revenue to fund it.

“What they are doing with oil money in Alaska, we can do for all of us around the country with advancing technology,” Yang told the crowd, many of whom waved “Yang Gang” and “Humanity First” signs.

Many also held placards and chanted the word “Math,” which has become a campaign mantra for Yang, who founded Venture for America, a fellowship program for entrepreneurs.

Most of his supporters said they were new to politics and were intrigued by Yang when they heard him speaking on podcasts.

“I was immediately taken with him. I really appreciate how clearly he articulates his policies, his platforms, without grandstanding,” said Aissa Le, 29, of San Francisco. “He’s a straight shooter.”

Yang’s growing grassroots popularity during his first-ever campaign is remarkable considering how his main platform, universal basic income — also known as the freedom dividend — involves taxing tech companies to pay all adult U.S. citizens $1,000 per month.

His idea, which he calls human-centered capitalism, is to offset impending job losses caused by robotics and artificial intelligence. In the next few decades, he said, self-driving vehicles will take over the trucking business and automation will make thousands of other blue-collar jobs obsolete.

The transformation, he said, has already had a profound effect, leaving much of Middle America feeling worthless, a situation that has contributed to drug addiction, a growing suicide rate and lowered life expectancy.

“We’re in the third inning of the greatest technological and economic transformation in the history of the world,” he said. “It is technology that is moving our economy to a point where a lot of Americans are struggling to get by.”

As a result, he said, there is a pervasive feeling among white working-class Americans that their lives aren’t valued. Yang said there is a direct connection between the adoption of industrial robots and the election of Donald Trump.

“He is not the disease, he is the symptom,” said Yang, who fears that if nothing is done to address the problem communities could face mass protests, civil disobedience and even riots.

His plan, he said, would give the 68 percent of Americans who don’t have college degrees — the ones most likely to become unemployed — a basic income that would help boost spending and the economy while the country invests in technical and vocational training for them.

“The money is not a solution. The money sets the stage for the solution,” he told Joe Rogan during a podcast that has been credited with helping Yang’s popularity to soar on social media. “We need to reconstitute meaning for many, many Americans. ... This is very much about human empowerment.”

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/SF-meets-Andrew-Yang-a-presidential-candidate-13693316.php#photo-17080141
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 19, 2019, 07:44:18 AM
De Blasio Attracts Crowd of Only 20 People in New Hampshire

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New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio (D), who continues to tease a potential 2020 presidential run, spoke to a group of only 20 people during a Sunday event in New Hampshire, the New York Post reports.

De Blasio's crowd size ranks with some lower-tier candidates lagging in the already wide Democratic field. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D., N.Y.) has drawn similar numbers in the Granite State. Sen. Elizabeth Warren, on the other hand, attracted up to 300 people at recent events. Warren has been in fourth place among Democrats in New Hampshire primary polls.

De Blasio appeared in New Hampshire as part of a roundtable on mental health, along with 14 panel members, who comprised most of his audience. Aside from the six reporters sent to cover the event, only six people showed up to see the mayor of America's largest city and possible presidential contender speak.


The mayor has been touring New Hampshire with his wife, Chirlane McCray, as he contemplates a possible presidential run. In addition to promoting McCray's ThriveNYC, a mental health program currently under scrutiny for its cost-effectiveness in the New York City Council, the couple stopped at McCray's family home in Claremont. For decades they were the only black family who lived full-time in the New England town, after emigrating from Barbados, she said.

McCray reminisced to reporters how she would visit her extended family in New Hampshire as a child.

"We came up here many summers, we’d have family gatherings where we’d come up and visit them," she said.

When running for mayor of New York in 2013, de Blasio also campaigned on his family, in an effort to prove he was not "some boring white guy," according to his daughter, Chiara.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/freebeacon.com/politics/de-blasio-attracts-crowd-of-only-20-people-in-new-hampshire/amp/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 19, 2019, 08:20:10 AM

Figures.

SF meets Andrew Yang, a presidential candidate who’s attracting support from Millennials

(https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/01/11/75/17080141/5/gallery_medium.jpg)

The unlikely presidential run of Andrew Yang, who is proposing a $1,000-a-month “freedom dividend” to every adult in America, rolled Friday into San Francisco, where some 3,000 supporters listened to the New York tech entrepreneur warn about how artificial intelligence and robotics are taking jobs.

The 44-year-old son of Taiwanese immigrants who met each other at UC Berkeley has already surpassed expectations — virtually nonexistent when he got into the race — by inspiring enough donations to qualify for the Democratic primary debate in June.


Yang outlined his idea for guaranteed universal income to a young, exuberant crowd of mostly Millennials at an outdoor soccer field lined with food trucks on Mission Bay Boulevard North.

Many also held placards and chanted the word “Math,” which has become a campaign mantra for Yang, who founded Venture for America, a fellowship program for entrepreneurs.

More than 66,000 donors have contributed over $350,000 to the campaign this month, an impressive performance for a candidate who seemingly came out of nowhere. Only about 1 percent of Democratic voters have expressed support for the resident of New York City in recent polls, but that’s no worse than his intrastate rival Kirsten Gillibrand and his popularity on social media has been soaring

He said the idea has not only had wide historical support — including from founding father Thomas Paine, the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Nobel Prize-winning economist Milton Friedman — but it has already been implemented in Alaska, which uses oil revenue to fund it.

“What they are doing with oil money in Alaska, we can do for all of us around the country with advancing technology,” Yang told the crowd, many of whom waved “Yang Gang” and “Humanity First” signs.

Many also held placards and chanted the word “Math,” which has become a campaign mantra for Yang, who founded Venture for America, a fellowship program for entrepreneurs.

Most of his supporters said they were new to politics and were intrigued by Yang when they heard him speaking on podcasts.

“I was immediately taken with him. I really appreciate how clearly he articulates his policies, his platforms, without grandstanding,” said Aissa Le, 29, of San Francisco. “He’s a straight shooter.”

Yang’s growing grassroots popularity during his first-ever campaign is remarkable considering how his main platform, universal basic income — also known as the freedom dividend — involves taxing tech companies to pay all adult U.S. citizens $1,000 per month.

His idea, which he calls human-centered capitalism, is to offset impending job losses caused by robotics and artificial intelligence. In the next few decades, he said, self-driving vehicles will take over the trucking business and automation will make thousands of other blue-collar jobs obsolete.

The transformation, he said, has already had a profound effect, leaving much of Middle America feeling worthless, a situation that has contributed to drug addiction, a growing suicide rate and lowered life expectancy.

“We’re in the third inning of the greatest technological and economic transformation in the history of the world,” he said. “It is technology that is moving our economy to a point where a lot of Americans are struggling to get by.”

As a result, he said, there is a pervasive feeling among white working-class Americans that their lives aren’t valued. Yang said there is a direct connection between the adoption of industrial robots and the election of Donald Trump.

“He is not the disease, he is the symptom,” said Yang, who fears that if nothing is done to address the problem communities could face mass protests, civil disobedience and even riots.

His plan, he said, would give the 68 percent of Americans who don’t have college degrees — the ones most likely to become unemployed — a basic income that would help boost spending and the economy while the country invests in technical and vocational training for them.

“The money is not a solution. The money sets the stage for the solution,” he told Joe Rogan during a podcast that has been credited with helping Yang’s popularity to soar on social media. “We need to reconstitute meaning for many, many Americans. ... This is very much about human empowerment.”

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/SF-meets-Andrew-Yang-a-presidential-candidate-13693316.php#photo-17080141
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on March 20, 2019, 08:46:38 PM
What Americans who aren't a fan of Trump need is an independent to rise up in the next year... the Democrats so far are disappointing. I am with many of the Trump supporters in that what America needs is someone who isn't a career politician, and who doesn't give a crap about special interest. Where i am separated from them is on my belief we don't need an egotistical self absorbed pathological lying sociopath. 

I was looking for that picture of Beto with his dog between his legs while he's on the couch to suggest a meme for someone that knows how to post pics, and I saw this comment again.

Let me issue you a challenge A007.  Only watch Fox, Candace Owens, Dinesh D'Souza, Brandon Tatum, and I'll come up with others for just two weeks.  Research what they are saying. Then when the two weeks are up go back to your leftist media, and see if you think Trump's rhetoric is still a big deal or just a necessary evil to deal with the rhetoric of the left.

If you'd like to challenge me back, I will accept.  Name the station, and so far 3 peeps on YT.....
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 21, 2019, 06:13:54 AM
He would be 90 years old in 2020!!!!

Mike Gravel, an 88-Year-Old Dark Horse 2020 Candidate Who’s a Hit With the Teens

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Andrew Yang isn’t the only potential 2020 presidential candidate with notable support from the very young. There’s a very old politician (88 to be precise) who is the unlikely subject of a teen-led draft effort that has operated (with his consent) through his once-neglected Twitter account.



Splinter explained how this all happened:

[David] Oks, a high school senior who has previously run for mayor of his small New York town, told Splinter that he and several friends are avid listeners of the Chapo Trap House podcast, which mentioned Gravel in a recent episode. About a week ago, he and a couple friends reached out to Gravel and asked if he would consider making another run for president. Their pitch was clear. “My friends and I were encouraging him to consider running for president with the idea being that he would not try to contest any primaries, he would just try to get into the Democratic debates,” he said.



Oks and his friends were clearly inspired by Gravel’s performance in the 2008 debates, where he delivered a searing indictment of the vast majority of his fellow candidates for their support of the Iraq war and their continued commitment to American interventionism in the Middle East.

Indeed, most everyone outside Alaska (which he represented in the U.S. Senate from 1969 until 1981) who has heard of Gravel probably remembers his virtually unfunded 2008 Democratic presidential candidacy, which, thanks to his Senate background, succeeded in getting him into early debates where he served as a bit of an antiwar gadfly. His hostility to U.S. interventionism, however, dated back to a much earlier moment of national notoriety, in 1971, when, as Dan Froomkin explained, Gravel “entered 4,000 pages of the Pentagon Papers into the congressional record just before the U.S. Supreme Court lifted an injunction on publishing them in the press.” The papers, a collection of internal DoD memos and other materials documenting the planning and execution of the Vietnam War, offered a searing indictment of U.S. foreign policy, which is why the Nixon administration battled unsuccessfully to keep them secret.

The dramatics of Gravel’s maneuver were typical of his Senate career, which showed considerable courage but also generated charges of showboating and insufficient attention to routine duties. His hostility to U.S. interventionism abroad has been his most consistent position (his own edition of the Pentagon Papers was edited and annotated by lefty anti-imperialist stalwarts Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn), but he annoyed progressives in Alaska by his steady support for development interests. In the end, his Senate career was perfectly bookended: He first won statewide office in 1968 by narrowly defeating Alaska icon Ernest Gruening (best known nationally as one of just two senators who voted against the Tonkin Gulf Resolution used by LBJ as authorization for the Vietnam War) in a primary campaign that was about generational change rather than issues, and then lost a 1980 primary to Gruening’s grandson. He was ultimately replaced in the Senate by Frank Murkowski, father of current Alaska GOP senator Lisa Murkowski).

So there’s a lot of ancient history associated with Gravel’s career, and a lot of what is generally called “eccentricity.” After his 2008 Democratic campaign sputtered to an end, he switched parties and unsuccessfully sought the Libertarian presidential nomination. Back in 1972, he drew attention to himself by openly campaigning to become his party’s vice-presidential nominee (which might not have been a bad idea given George McGovern’s disastrous choice of Thomas Eagleton, later forced from the ticket for undisclosed drunk driving charges and mental health treatments).


In the broad context of this man’s career, being drafted by teenagers into what sounds like an extended flame war against Democratic candidates for insufficient anti-imperialism fits right in. Rolling Stone records some early heat from the Gravel twitter account:

The account has also fired off several scathing attacks of Gravel’s prospective opponents, including Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA), who “kept innocent men on death row”; Joe Biden, who “voted for the Iraq War”; Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), who likes to “abuse American workers”; and Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ), who “invented a drug dealer friend (and voted with Big Pharma).” The account also attacked Booker’s “melodramatic” performance during Brett Kavanaugh’s Supreme Court confirmation hearing last year while touting Gravel reading the Pentagon Papers into the congressional record in 1971. Meanwhile, the account seems to favor Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT) and Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI), candidates it wants push “toward more sensible views on political reform and foreign policy through the debate.”

Gravel’s apparent goal of recapitulating his 2008 debate performances could run into the clear objective requirements the DNC has set out for the first 2020 debate, limiting total participation to 20 candidates and setting minimum thresholds for poll showings or national fundraising ability. So his teen legions had better get a move on if they want to develop enough of a cult following to trump the Democratic field’s septuagenarians with a debater who will turn 90 in 2020.

https://www.google.com/amp/nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/03/mike-gravel-the-88-year-old-pol-with-a-teen-following.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on March 21, 2019, 06:52:34 AM
He would be 90 years old in 2020!!!!

Mike Gravel, an 88-Year-Old Dark Horse 2020 Candidate Who’s a Hit With the Teens

(https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Mike-Gravel.jpg?crop=900:600&width=440)

Andrew Yang isn’t the only potential 2020 presidential candidate with notable support from the very young. There’s a very old politician (88 to be precise) who is the unlikely subject of a teen-led draft effort that has operated (with his consent) through his once-neglected Twitter account.



Splinter explained how this all happened:

[David] Oks, a high school senior who has previously run for mayor of his small New York town, told Splinter that he and several friends are avid listeners of the Chapo Trap House podcast, which mentioned Gravel in a recent episode. About a week ago, he and a couple friends reached out to Gravel and asked if he would consider making another run for president. Their pitch was clear. “My friends and I were encouraging him to consider running for president with the idea being that he would not try to contest any primaries, he would just try to get into the Democratic debates,” he said.



Oks and his friends were clearly inspired by Gravel’s performance in the 2008 debates, where he delivered a searing indictment of the vast majority of his fellow candidates for their support of the Iraq war and their continued commitment to American interventionism in the Middle East.

Indeed, most everyone outside Alaska (which he represented in the U.S. Senate from 1969 until 1981) who has heard of Gravel probably remembers his virtually unfunded 2008 Democratic presidential candidacy, which, thanks to his Senate background, succeeded in getting him into early debates where he served as a bit of an antiwar gadfly. His hostility to U.S. interventionism, however, dated back to a much earlier moment of national notoriety, in 1971, when, as Dan Froomkin explained, Gravel “entered 4,000 pages of the Pentagon Papers into the congressional record just before the U.S. Supreme Court lifted an injunction on publishing them in the press.” The papers, a collection of internal DoD memos and other materials documenting the planning and execution of the Vietnam War, offered a searing indictment of U.S. foreign policy, which is why the Nixon administration battled unsuccessfully to keep them secret.

The dramatics of Gravel’s maneuver were typical of his Senate career, which showed considerable courage but also generated charges of showboating and insufficient attention to routine duties. His hostility to U.S. interventionism abroad has been his most consistent position (his own edition of the Pentagon Papers was edited and annotated by lefty anti-imperialist stalwarts Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn), but he annoyed progressives in Alaska by his steady support for development interests. In the end, his Senate career was perfectly bookended: He first won statewide office in 1968 by narrowly defeating Alaska icon Ernest Gruening (best known nationally as one of just two senators who voted against the Tonkin Gulf Resolution used by LBJ as authorization for the Vietnam War) in a primary campaign that was about generational change rather than issues, and then lost a 1980 primary to Gruening’s grandson. He was ultimately replaced in the Senate by Frank Murkowski, father of current Alaska GOP senator Lisa Murkowski).

So there’s a lot of ancient history associated with Gravel’s career, and a lot of what is generally called “eccentricity.” After his 2008 Democratic campaign sputtered to an end, he switched parties and unsuccessfully sought the Libertarian presidential nomination. Back in 1972, he drew attention to himself by openly campaigning to become his party’s vice-presidential nominee (which might not have been a bad idea given George McGovern’s disastrous choice of Thomas Eagleton, later forced from the ticket for undisclosed drunk driving charges and mental health treatments).


In the broad context of this man’s career, being drafted by teenagers into what sounds like an extended flame war against Democratic candidates for insufficient anti-imperialism fits right in. Rolling Stone records some early heat from the Gravel twitter account:

The account has also fired off several scathing attacks of Gravel’s prospective opponents, including Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA), who “kept innocent men on death row”; Joe Biden, who “voted for the Iraq War”; Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), who likes to “abuse American workers”; and Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ), who “invented a drug dealer friend (and voted with Big Pharma).” The account also attacked Booker’s “melodramatic” performance during Brett Kavanaugh’s Supreme Court confirmation hearing last year while touting Gravel reading the Pentagon Papers into the congressional record in 1971. Meanwhile, the account seems to favor Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT) and Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI), candidates it wants push “toward more sensible views on political reform and foreign policy through the debate.”

Gravel’s apparent goal of recapitulating his 2008 debate performances could run into the clear objective requirements the DNC has set out for the first 2020 debate, limiting total participation to 20 candidates and setting minimum thresholds for poll showings or national fundraising ability. So his teen legions had better get a move on if they want to develop enough of a cult following to trump the Democratic field’s septuagenarians with a debater who will turn 90 in 2020.

https://www.google.com/amp/nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/03/mike-gravel-the-88-year-old-pol-with-a-teen-following.html

I’d think a 90yr old won’t have much of a chance of being elected
But with the Loony Democraps Who knows.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 21, 2019, 06:58:38 AM
I’d think a 90yr old won’t have much of a chance of being elected
But with the Loony Democraps Who knows.

This guy is known as a bit of flame thrower who goes against the grain of the more mainstream Democratic party.

He'll likely be up there tossing grenades at the other candidates on stage so for me he would be a welcome addition.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 21, 2019, 07:10:55 AM
Team Biden Reportedly Debating Adding Stacey Abrams to His Old White Guy Ticket Right Away

(https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2019/03/20/20-joe-biden-stacey-abrams.w1200.h800.jpg)


Former Vice President Joe Biden’s long, long-awaited presidential campaign announcement should be coming any time now, and what better way to distinguish himself from all the other old white male candidates in the race than by announcing Stacey Abrams as his VP pick from the start?

Lol jk, there are plenty of better ways of doing this! But the fact that Team Biden sees immediately partnering with a black woman who narrowly lost the election for Georgia governor after running an energizing campaign as a strategy that will somehow distract voters from Biden himself is telling.

Biden’s advisers are reportedly debating packaging his announcement with a pledge to pick Abrams as his running mate, Axios reported Thursday, which a source said would show he “isn’t just another old white guy.”

The debate is apparently in the early stages among Bidens’ advisers. The site reported some staffers opposed the strategy (smart)—but because Biden might be asked during a Democratic debate why no one on stage is worthy of being picked as his running mate (dumb). It’s also not known how Biden feels about the matter. We’ve reached out to Biden’s campaign for comment and will update if we hear back.

Selecting an early running mate is something Biden himself has had in mind, though a senior Democrat told CNN earlier this week that it could backfire by coming off with an “air of inevitability.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/splinternews.com/team-biden-reportedly-debating-adding-stacey-abrams-to-1833460332/amp
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on March 21, 2019, 12:06:53 PM
Team Biden Reportedly Debating Adding Stacey Abrams to His Old White Guy Ticket Right Away

(https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2019/03/20/20-joe-biden-stacey-abrams.w1200.h800.jpg)


Former Vice President Joe Biden’s long, long-awaited presidential campaign announcement should be coming any time now, and what better way to distinguish himself from all the other old white male candidates in the race than by announcing Stacey Abrams as his VP pick from the start?

Lol jk, there are plenty of better ways of doing this! But the fact that Team Biden sees immediately partnering with a black woman who narrowly lost the election for Georgia governor after running an energizing campaign as a strategy that will somehow distract voters from Biden himself is telling.

Biden’s advisers are reportedly debating packaging his announcement with a pledge to pick Abrams as his running mate, Axios reported Thursday, which a source said would show he “isn’t just another old white guy.”

The debate is apparently in the early stages among Bidens’ advisers. The site reported some staffers opposed the strategy (smart)—but because Biden might be asked during a Democratic debate why no one on stage is worthy of being picked as his running mate (dumb). It’s also not known how Biden feels about the matter. We’ve reached out to Biden’s campaign for comment and will update if we hear back.

Selecting an early running mate is something Biden himself has had in mind, though a senior Democrat told CNN earlier this week that it could backfire by coming off with an “air of inevitability.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/splinternews.com/team-biden-reportedly-debating-adding-stacey-abrams-to-1833460332/amp
How is that loser still in the media spotlight?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2019, 01:32:35 PM
Democrat Contender John Hickenlooper Confirms Watching Porno With Mother
www.dailywire.com ^ | March 21, 2019 | By Ryan Saavedra
Posted on 3/21/2019, 1:35:30 PM by Red Badger

Democratic presidential candidate John Hickenlooper confirmed Wednesday night during his CNN town hall event that he took his mother to watch an X-rated pornographic movie when he was younger and that the two stayed for the entire movie.

Hickenlooper confirmed that the incident, which he wrote about in his memoir, happened when he returned home from college to visit his mother for Thanksgiving. Hickenlooper's dad died when he was 8-years-old, and he said that he didn't realize that his mother was lonely until he returned home from college.

"I promised, I called a friend in Philadelphia — and ... we didn't know what an X-movie was," Hickenlooper claimed. "We thought it was a little naughty, but we didn't think it was that bad. You've gotta understand, I was 18 years old."

"I said, 'I promised Jed that we'd go to the movie theater and see this new movie, you want to come?' And it's an X-movie, and I was sure she wouldn't say no. I made a mistake," Hickenlooper continued. "And she said, 'I'd love to go' because she didn't want to be left alone in the house again. So I took my mother to see 'Deep Throat.'"

"And to her credit, the first scene is ... my mother was, I'm sure she was mortified, and I said repeatedly that 'I think we should leave,' 'I think we would should go,'" Hickenlooper claimed. "And my mother was the kind of person who rarely went to a movie. She thought almost every movie would get on TV. Obviously not this one. When she paid, she was going to stay."

"And at the end, she knew I was humiliated," Hickenlooper added. "And as we drove home and — you know how the dashboard in the old cars had a kind of green light, and I asked her, I said, 'That was some experience.' And she goes, 'I thought the lighting was very good in the movie.' I thought I saw a little grin in that green light."

Hickenlooper's presidential bid is a long shot to put it mildly, as he is only polling at 1% in the latest Real Clear Politics average and CNN does not even have him ranked in their top 10 power rankings.

This isn't the first time strange behavior by Hickenlooper has made headlines. In 2013, Hickenlooper admitted that he drank a glass of fracking fluid produced by Halliburton.

"You can drink it. We did drink it around the table, almost rituallike, in a funny way," Hickenlooper told the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources. "It was a demonstration. … they’ve invested millions of dollars in what is a benign fluid in every sense."

Hickenlooper is also on record saying that he supports 99% of socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's far-left "Green New Deal," which has been projected to cost up to $93 trillion.

Hickenlooper's endorsement of the radical environmentalist plan clashes with his record; an ethics complaint was recently filed against him for taking approximately 100 flights across the world on private planes "owned by wealthy benefactors and then not disclosing the gifts as the law requires," The Denver Post reported.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 21, 2019, 01:45:18 PM
Democrat Contender John Hickenlooper Confirms Watching Porno With Mother
www.dailywire.com ^ | March 21, 2019 | By Ryan Saavedra
Posted on 3/21/2019, 1:35:30 PM by Red Badger

Democratic presidential candidate John Hickenlooper confirmed Wednesday night during his CNN town hall event that he took his mother to watch an X-rated pornographic movie when he was younger and that the two stayed for the entire movie.

Hickenlooper confirmed that the incident, which he wrote about in his memoir, happened when he returned home from college to visit his mother for Thanksgiving. Hickenlooper's dad died when he was 8-years-old, and he said that he didn't realize that his mother was lonely until he returned home from college.

"I promised, I called a friend in Philadelphia — and ... we didn't know what an X-movie was," Hickenlooper claimed. "We thought it was a little naughty, but we didn't think it was that bad. You've gotta understand, I was 18 years old."

"I said, 'I promised Jed that we'd go to the movie theater and see this new movie, you want to come?' And it's an X-movie, and I was sure she wouldn't say no. I made a mistake," Hickenlooper continued. "And she said, 'I'd love to go' because she didn't want to be left alone in the house again. So I took my mother to see 'Deep Throat.'"

"And to her credit, the first scene is ... my mother was, I'm sure she was mortified, and I said repeatedly that 'I think we should leave,' 'I think we would should go,'" Hickenlooper claimed. "And my mother was the kind of person who rarely went to a movie. She thought almost every movie would get on TV. Obviously not this one. When she paid, she was going to stay."

"And at the end, she knew I was humiliated," Hickenlooper added. "And as we drove home and — you know how the dashboard in the old cars had a kind of green light, and I asked her, I said, 'That was some experience.' And she goes, 'I thought the lighting was very good in the movie.' I thought I saw a little grin in that green light."

Hickenlooper's presidential bid is a long shot to put it mildly, as he is only polling at 1% in the latest Real Clear Politics average and CNN does not even have him ranked in their top 10 power rankings.

This isn't the first time strange behavior by Hickenlooper has made headlines. In 2013, Hickenlooper admitted that he drank a glass of fracking fluid produced by Halliburton.

"You can drink it. We did drink it around the table, almost rituallike, in a funny way," Hickenlooper told the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources. "It was a demonstration. … they’ve invested millions of dollars in what is a benign fluid in every sense."

Hickenlooper is also on record saying that he supports 99% of socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's far-left "Green New Deal," which has been projected to cost up to $93 trillion.

Hickenlooper's endorsement of the radical environmentalist plan clashes with his record; an ethics complaint was recently filed against him for taking approximately 100 flights across the world on private planes "owned by wealthy benefactors and then not disclosing the gifts as the law requires," The Denver Post reported.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/saUMxR58vME/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 21, 2019, 03:17:55 PM
Democrat Contender John Hickenlooper Confirms Watching Porno With Mother
www.dailywire.com ^ | March 21, 2019 | By Ryan Saavedra
Posted on 3/21/2019, 1:35:30 PM by Red Badger

Democratic presidential candidate John Hickenlooper confirmed Wednesday night during his CNN town hall event that he took his mother to watch an X-rated pornographic movie when he was younger and that the two stayed for the entire movie.

Hickenlooper confirmed that the incident, which he wrote about in his memoir, happened when he returned home from college to visit his mother for Thanksgiving. Hickenlooper's dad died when he was 8-years-old, and he said that he didn't realize that his mother was lonely until he returned home from college.

"I promised, I called a friend in Philadelphia — and ... we didn't know what an X-movie was," Hickenlooper claimed. "We thought it was a little naughty, but we didn't think it was that bad. You've gotta understand, I was 18 years old."

"I said, 'I promised Jed that we'd go to the movie theater and see this new movie, you want to come?' And it's an X-movie, and I was sure she wouldn't say no. I made a mistake," Hickenlooper continued. "And she said, 'I'd love to go' because she didn't want to be left alone in the house again. So I took my mother to see 'Deep Throat.'"

"And to her credit, the first scene is ... my mother was, I'm sure she was mortified, and I said repeatedly that 'I think we should leave,' 'I think we would should go,'" Hickenlooper claimed. "And my mother was the kind of person who rarely went to a movie. She thought almost every movie would get on TV. Obviously not this one. When she paid, she was going to stay."

"And at the end, she knew I was humiliated," Hickenlooper added. "And as we drove home and — you know how the dashboard in the old cars had a kind of green light, and I asked her, I said, 'That was some experience.' And she goes, 'I thought the lighting was very good in the movie.' I thought I saw a little grin in that green light."

Hickenlooper's presidential bid is a long shot to put it mildly, as he is only polling at 1% in the latest Real Clear Politics average and CNN does not even have him ranked in their top 10 power rankings.

This isn't the first time strange behavior by Hickenlooper has made headlines. In 2013, Hickenlooper admitted that he drank a glass of fracking fluid produced by Halliburton.

"You can drink it. We did drink it around the table, almost rituallike, in a funny way," Hickenlooper told the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources. "It was a demonstration. … they’ve invested millions of dollars in what is a benign fluid in every sense."

Hickenlooper is also on record saying that he supports 99% of socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's far-left "Green New Deal," which has been projected to cost up to $93 trillion.

Hickenlooper's endorsement of the radical environmentalist plan clashes with his record; an ethics complaint was recently filed against him for taking approximately 100 flights across the world on private planes "owned by wealthy benefactors and then not disclosing the gifts as the law requires," The Denver Post reported.


Bahaha,,,
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on March 21, 2019, 11:13:59 PM
Team Biden Reportedly Debating Adding Stacey Abrams to His Old White Guy Ticket Right Away

(https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2019/03/20/20-joe-biden-stacey-abrams.w1200.h800.jpg)


Former Vice President Joe Biden’s long, long-awaited presidential campaign announcement should be coming any time now, and what better way to distinguish himself from all the other old white male candidates in the race than by announcing Stacey Abrams as his VP pick from the start?

Lol jk, there are plenty of better ways of doing this! But the fact that Team Biden sees immediately partnering with a black woman who narrowly lost the election for Georgia governor after running an energizing campaign as a strategy that will somehow distract voters from Biden himself is telling.

Biden’s advisers are reportedly debating packaging his announcement with a pledge to pick Abrams as his running mate, Axios reported Thursday, which a source said would show he “isn’t just another old white guy.”

The debate is apparently in the early stages among Bidens’ advisers. The site reported some staffers opposed the strategy (smart)—but because Biden might be asked during a Democratic debate why no one on stage is worthy of being picked as his running mate (dumb). It’s also not known how Biden feels about the matter. We’ve reached out to Biden’s campaign for comment and will update if we hear back.

Selecting an early running mate is something Biden himself has had in mind, though a senior Democrat told CNN earlier this week that it could backfire by coming off with an “air of inevitability.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/splinternews.com/team-biden-reportedly-debating-adding-stacey-abrams-to-1833460332/amp

Dear God,

Please let this be true, and also let him announce that Beto will be in his cabinet after biden wins the primary.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on March 22, 2019, 11:14:00 AM
Team Biden Reportedly Debating Adding Stacey Abrams to His Old White Guy Ticket Right Away

(https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2019/03/20/20-joe-biden-stacey-abrams.w1200.h800.jpg)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/splinternews.com/team-biden-reportedly-debating-adding-stacey-abrams-to-1833460332/amp


They make a good team.  They did well together in Return of the Jedi.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiA1ioJX4AAmCgy.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on March 22, 2019, 08:05:45 PM
Democrat Contender John Hickenlooper Confirms Watching Porno With Mother
www.dailywire.com ^ | March 21, 2019 | By Ryan Saavedra
Posted on 3/21/2019, 1:35:30 PM by Red Badger

Democratic presidential candidate John Hickenlooper confirmed Wednesday night during his CNN town hall event that he took his mother to watch an X-rated pornographic movie when he was younger and that the two stayed for the entire movie.

Hickenlooper confirmed that the incident, which he wrote about in his memoir, happened when he returned home from college to visit his mother for Thanksgiving. Hickenlooper's dad died when he was 8-years-old, and he said that he didn't realize that his mother was lonely until he returned home from college.

"I promised, I called a friend in Philadelphia — and ... we didn't know what an X-movie was," Hickenlooper claimed. "We thought it was a little naughty, but we didn't think it was that bad. You've gotta understand, I was 18 years old."

"I said, 'I promised Jed that we'd go to the movie theater and see this new movie, you want to come?' And it's an X-movie, and I was sure she wouldn't say no. I made a mistake," Hickenlooper continued. "And she said, 'I'd love to go' because she didn't want to be left alone in the house again. So I took my mother to see 'Deep Throat.'"

"And to her credit, the first scene is ... my mother was, I'm sure she was mortified, and I said repeatedly that 'I think we should leave,' 'I think we would should go,'" Hickenlooper claimed. "And my mother was the kind of person who rarely went to a movie. She thought almost every movie would get on TV. Obviously not this one. When she paid, she was going to stay."

"And at the end, she knew I was humiliated," Hickenlooper added. "And as we drove home and — you know how the dashboard in the old cars had a kind of green light, and I asked her, I said, 'That was some experience.' And she goes, 'I thought the lighting was very good in the movie.' I thought I saw a little grin in that green light."

Hickenlooper's presidential bid is a long shot to put it mildly, as he is only polling at 1% in the latest Real Clear Politics average and CNN does not even have him ranked in their top 10 power rankings.

This isn't the first time strange behavior by Hickenlooper has made headlines. In 2013, Hickenlooper admitted that he drank a glass of fracking fluid produced by Halliburton.

"You can drink it. We did drink it around the table, almost rituallike, in a funny way," Hickenlooper told the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources. "It was a demonstration. … they’ve invested millions of dollars in what is a benign fluid in every sense."

Hickenlooper is also on record saying that he supports 99% of socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's far-left "Green New Deal," which has been projected to cost up to $93 trillion.

Hickenlooper's endorsement of the radical environmentalist plan clashes with his record; an ethics complaint was recently filed against him for taking approximately 100 flights across the world on private planes "owned by wealthy benefactors and then not disclosing the gifts as the law requires," The Denver Post reported.

Why are soooooo many people on the left soooooooooo creepy, awkward, and demented sexually?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2019, 08:59:00 PM
Why are soooooo many people on the left soooooooooo creepy, awkward, and demented sexually?

Should I trot out a list of Republican lawmakers that were caught in sex scandals?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on March 23, 2019, 09:42:23 PM
Should I trot out a list of Republican lawmakers that were caught in sex scandals?
Please do. Post them side by side, including the ones that used tax dollars to pay off their victims.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on March 23, 2019, 09:55:19 PM

They make a good team.  They did well together in Return of the Jedi.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiA1ioJX4AAmCgy.jpg:large)

Only on GB would such an obscure reference be found that is actually a pretty accurate visual representation.

I salute you on this one Senor Loco! 8)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on March 23, 2019, 09:58:40 PM
Should I trot out a list of Republican lawmakers that were caught in sex scandals?

Let's just start with the ones that went to see "Deep Throat" with their mom to get her out of the house, and show her a good time.  If they happened to reminisce about the smirk on their mom's face, and glimmer in her eyes reflecting off the dashboard lights that'd be great too
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on March 26, 2019, 04:29:11 AM
Only on GB would such an obscure reference be found that is actually a pretty accurate visual representation.

I salute you on this one Senor Loco! 8)

Gracias!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Howard on March 26, 2019, 06:03:59 AM
Let's just start with the ones that went to see "Deep Throat" with their mom to get her out of the house, and show her a good time.  If they happened to reminisce about the smirk on their mom's face, and glimmer in her eyes reflecting off the dashboard lights that'd be great too

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-jul-09-na-ensign9-story.html

John Ensign is a good one to start with .
Not his mom, but he did throw his wife under the bus.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on March 26, 2019, 06:11:40 AM
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-jul-09-na-ensign9-story.html

John Ensign is a good one to start with .
Not his mom, but he did throw his wife under the bus.

Like you threw your mom under the bus after Hillary lost?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on March 26, 2019, 06:47:53 AM
Ok, I first mentioned here when  I posted about thinking of her when I voted in 2016.
I regret sharing that bit of deeply personal information on this forum.
I'd be grateful  if you left her out going fwd and just ripped on me and dems.
Thanks

Like you left her out?  Oh, wait.  You didn't.  You troll the politics board, throw your own mom under the bus, blaming her for your voting for a loser, and now you are making demands?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on March 26, 2019, 07:59:26 AM
I'm just another poster and in no position to demand anything.
It's just a request , motivated by a need for common decency.
I thought you might understand .  Thanks.

Oh, I think you are in the wrong place.  Look at the URL above.  It says Getbig.com.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on March 26, 2019, 08:29:54 AM
oh well, at least I tried.


(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/050/648/73b.png)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on March 26, 2019, 01:47:25 PM
When I was kid they called everyone that tried and lost an "almost winner" on Bozo  :D

Howard,

Just in case it's not already clear, I have not said a single negative thing about your mom, not in this thread, not in this forum, not ever.  God bless her, and may she rest in peace!  You're like a mentally retarded big brother to me.  So it's like she's my mom too. 

Anytime I bring up your mom in this forum, it's not about her.  It's about you throwing her under the bus and blaming her for your voting for loser Hillary.   :D

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on March 26, 2019, 02:04:32 PM
For the 99th time.
I didn't vote for Hillary because of my Mom.
I couldn't vote for Trump because he's a childish buffoon .
I reflected back briefly on my mom when I was voting.

That's not what you said originally.  Too bad you deleted your original post.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 26, 2019, 04:15:51 PM
Indiana mayor, presidential hopeful Pete Buttigieg gains with crowds, TV spots and campaign cash


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COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — Democratic presidential hopeful Pete Buttigieg is riding in the back of a rented minivan to his last event of the day in South Carolina, munching on cold french fries and critiquing his stage performance so far.

The enthusiastic crowds of hundreds who've packed his first two stops have been much larger than the 37-year-old mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and his team expected. It's "wonderful," he says, but the cheering and prolonged applause are messing with his delivery. Sometimes he neglects to pause, and his next words are drowned out. Other times people start clapping when he doesn't expect it.


"I need to relearn the timing of my stump speech," Buttigieg says. "I've been used to a format where I go in, there's 50 people, I do my little spiel and then we have some Q&A and hopefully they walk away impressed. Now every one of these things we put on the calendar as a meet and greet is turning out to be a rally."

Buttigieg, a veteran and Rhodes scholar, was the longest of long shots when he announced a presidential exploratory committee in January. No mayor has ever been elected president, much less one from a community of roughly 100,000 people in the middle of America, and Buttigieg is barely old enough to be eligible for the job.

But his underdog bid is gaining momentum, and the clean-cut guy known to most people as "Mayor Pete" can feel it. Now he has to figure out how to turn one of the first surprises of the nascent race for the Democratic nomination into a full-fledged presidential campaign — and one that isn't remembered as a mere quirk.

"The buzz helps," Buttigieg says. "But you want to make sure that you have enough substance and enough organization that any kind of flavor-of-the-month period is something you can outlive."

Besides the crowds and the cheering, Buttigieg has seen increasing national media attention, from Fox News to MSNBC and his second appearance on ABC's "The View." After a breakout performance in a CNN town hall earlier this month, Buttigieg's team says he raised roughly $600,000 from 22,000 donors in just over 24 hours. He has now received enough individual contributions to qualify for a spot on the Democratic debate stage this summer.

But there's still plenty of work to do, starting with raising money and hiring staff. Buttigieg said his goal early on was to raise $1 million by the end of the first quarter on March 31, adding, "We're definitely there." He's fairly confident they'll have the funds needed for a healthy operation, at least in the early stages. But he also wants to "show well" when all candidates' first-quarter totals become public — the first time this cycle that campaigns are required to file campaign finance reports.

"I think we benefit from the fact that it's graded on a curve," Buttigieg said. "No one is expecting us to raise as though I were a senator from Florida or from a big city. But we've got to show that we can compete at this level."

Buttigieg also plans to double the size of his roughly 20-person team in the new few weeks, in preparation for an official campaign launch. He doesn't have an advance team - those campaign staffers who coordinate events on-site before the candidate arrives, hang campaign signs and ensure someone is capturing emails and phone numbers for every person who walks in the door.

Volunteers and local Democratic officials handled most of those duties during Buttigieg's swing Saturday through South Carolina, site of the South's first primary. Instead of professionally printed banners, someone hung poster boards with messages handwritten in black marker urging attendees to tweet photos and video using several different hashtags and Twitter handles. When Buttigieg took questions from the crowd in Rock Hill, there were no microphones for people in the audience, forcing him to ask a woman at the back of the gymnasium to shout her question — twice — so he could hear.

None of that seemed to bother voters. After his event in Columbia, Christina Goodwin, 32, called Buttigieg "exciting" and said he'd moved into her top three list, along with Sens. Kamala Harris and Kirsten Gillibrand, despite her misgivings about supporting another white man for president in 2020.

Goodwin, like other voters, said she's been picking up bits of intriguing information about Buttigieg through social media that have piqued her interest. That he learned to speak Norwegian, for instance, so he could read more books by a Norwegian author, Erlend Loe. Buttigieg, who speaks seven languages, demonstrated some of his language skills when a Norwegian media crew showed up to ask questions after the Columbia event. (He also speaks French, Italian, Spanish, Arabic, Dari and Maltese, the language of his father's home country.)

https://www.wdrb.com/news/indiana-mayor-presidential-hopeful-pete-buttigieg-gains-with-crowds-tv/article_7d634290-8604-5236-b424-1eb8bf93c2e7.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on March 26, 2019, 05:59:19 PM
Indiana mayor, presidential hopeful Pete Buttigieg gains with crowds, TV spots and campaign cash


(https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/wdrb.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/13/4137ecec-1f2b-11e9-b06c-67b66dbb5628/5c489547e7c72.image.jpg?resize=960%2C472)

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — Democratic presidential hopeful Pete Buttigieg is riding in the back of a rented minivan to his last event of the day in South Carolina, munching on cold french fries and critiquing his stage performance so far.

The enthusiastic crowds of hundreds who've packed his first two stops have been much larger than the 37-year-old mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and his team expected. It's "wonderful," he says, but the cheering and prolonged applause are messing with his delivery. Sometimes he neglects to pause, and his next words are drowned out. Other times people start clapping when he doesn't expect it.


"I need to relearn the timing of my stump speech," Buttigieg says. "I've been used to a format where I go in, there's 50 people, I do my little spiel and then we have some Q&A and hopefully they walk away impressed. Now every one of these things we put on the calendar as a meet and greet is turning out to be a rally."

Buttigieg, a veteran and Rhodes scholar, was the longest of long shots when he announced a presidential exploratory committee in January. No mayor has ever been elected president, much less one from a community of roughly 100,000 people in the middle of America, and Buttigieg is barely old enough to be eligible for the job.

But his underdog bid is gaining momentum, and the clean-cut guy known to most people as "Mayor Pete" can feel it. Now he has to figure out how to turn one of the first surprises of the nascent race for the Democratic nomination into a full-fledged presidential campaign — and one that isn't remembered as a mere quirk.

"The buzz helps," Buttigieg says. "But you want to make sure that you have enough substance and enough organization that any kind of flavor-of-the-month period is something you can outlive."

Besides the crowds and the cheering, Buttigieg has seen increasing national media attention, from Fox News to MSNBC and his second appearance on ABC's "The View." After a breakout performance in a CNN town hall earlier this month, Buttigieg's team says he raised roughly $600,000 from 22,000 donors in just over 24 hours. He has now received enough individual contributions to qualify for a spot on the Democratic debate stage this summer.

But there's still plenty of work to do, starting with raising money and hiring staff. Buttigieg said his goal early on was to raise $1 million by the end of the first quarter on March 31, adding, "We're definitely there." He's fairly confident they'll have the funds needed for a healthy operation, at least in the early stages. But he also wants to "show well" when all candidates' first-quarter totals become public — the first time this cycle that campaigns are required to file campaign finance reports.

"I think we benefit from the fact that it's graded on a curve," Buttigieg said. "No one is expecting us to raise as though I were a senator from Florida or from a big city. But we've got to show that we can compete at this level."

Buttigieg also plans to double the size of his roughly 20-person team in the new few weeks, in preparation for an official campaign launch. He doesn't have an advance team - those campaign staffers who coordinate events on-site before the candidate arrives, hang campaign signs and ensure someone is capturing emails and phone numbers for every person who walks in the door.

Volunteers and local Democratic officials handled most of those duties during Buttigieg's swing Saturday through South Carolina, site of the South's first primary. Instead of professionally printed banners, someone hung poster boards with messages handwritten in black marker urging attendees to tweet photos and video using several different hashtags and Twitter handles. When Buttigieg took questions from the crowd in Rock Hill, there were no microphones for people in the audience, forcing him to ask a woman at the back of the gymnasium to shout her question — twice — so he could hear.

None of that seemed to bother voters. After his event in Columbia, Christina Goodwin, 32, called Buttigieg "exciting" and said he'd moved into her top three list, along with Sens. Kamala Harris and Kirsten Gillibrand, despite her misgivings about supporting another white man for president in 2020.

Goodwin, like other voters, said she's been picking up bits of intriguing information about Buttigieg through social media that have piqued her interest. That he learned to speak Norwegian, for instance, so he could read more books by a Norwegian author, Erlend Loe. Buttigieg, who speaks seven languages, demonstrated some of his language skills when a Norwegian media crew showed up to ask questions after the Columbia event. (He also speaks French, Italian, Spanish, Arabic, Dari and Maltese, the language of his father's home country.)

https://www.wdrb.com/news/indiana-mayor-presidential-hopeful-pete-buttigieg-gains-with-crowds-tv/article_7d634290-8604-5236-b424-1eb8bf93c2e7.html

Can a debate moderator pronounce his name without giggling?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on March 26, 2019, 06:50:21 PM
Can a debate moderator pronounce his name without giggling?

I would certainly hope so, but Trumps trash talk game would really get an assist.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 28, 2019, 11:59:27 AM
Beto O’Rourke, Pete Buttigieg rise in new 2020 national poll

A new national poll provides more evidence that White House contenders Beto O’Rourke of Texas and Pete Buttigieg of Indiana are on the rise in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

O’Rourke, the former three-term congressman who grabbed national attention after coming close to defeating GOP Sen. Ted Cruz in the 2018 midterm elections, ranked third at 12 percent among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents in a new Quinnipiac University national poll.

O’Rourke announced his candidacy two weeks ago and attracted large crowds and lots of media buzz as he campaigned in all four of the early voting primary and caucus states. He also raised an eye-popping $6 million in his first 24 hours as a candidate.

Buttigieg comes in at 4 percent in the survey, several slots behind the leaders but still representing a pickup in the polls. The South Bend, Indiana mayor and Afghanistan War veteran was considered an extreme long shot for the nomination when he launched his presidential exploratory committee in January. But he's seen his star rise in recent weeks, attracting larger crowds on the campaign trail and plenty of positive coverage on the cable news networks and political media.

Topping the poll is former Vice President Joe Biden, who stands at 29 percent. Biden is likely to announce his candidacy for the White House in the coming weeks. Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, who’s making his second straight bid for the Democratic nomination, is in second in the survey, at 19 percent.

Biden and Sanders have topped almost every national and early voting state poll in the 2020 Democratic race, including a Fox News poll released a few days ago. Their strong standing is fueled in part by their widespread name recognition. Name ID heavily influences horserace polls in the early parts of a cycle.

Sen. Kamala Harris of California came in fourth in the poll, at 8 percent, with Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts at 4 percent alongside Buttigieg. Sens. Cory Booker of New Jersey and Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota stood at 2 percent. The rest of the large field of Democratic contenders registered at 1 percent or less.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/orourke-buttigieg-numbers-pop-in-new-2020-national-poll.amp
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 28, 2019, 12:41:55 PM
In response to the above, IMO there are too many possible democratic candidates vying for a position in the 2020 primary. I say possible because not everyone has officially announced their intention to run for the presidency. Either way the primary results will determine who gets the party's nomination. No matter who it is, they most likely have a tough battle ahead of them.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 28, 2019, 01:22:27 PM
Beto O’Rourke, Pete Buttigieg rise in new 2020 national poll

A new national poll provides more evidence that White House contenders Beto O’Rourke of Texas and Pete Buttigieg of Indiana are on the rise in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

O’Rourke, the former three-term congressman who grabbed national attention after coming close to defeating GOP Sen. Ted Cruz in the 2018 midterm elections, ranked third at 12 percent among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents in a new Quinnipiac University national poll.

O’Rourke announced his candidacy two weeks ago and attracted large crowds and lots of media buzz as he campaigned in all four of the early voting primary and caucus states. He also raised an eye-popping $6 million in his first 24 hours as a candidate.

Buttigieg comes in at 4 percent in the survey, several slots behind the leaders but still representing a pickup in the polls. The South Bend, Indiana mayor and Afghanistan War veteran was considered an extreme long shot for the nomination when he launched his presidential exploratory committee in January. But he's seen his star rise in recent weeks, attracting larger crowds on the campaign trail and plenty of positive coverage on the cable news networks and political media.

Topping the poll is former Vice President Joe Biden, who stands at 29 percent. Biden is likely to announce his candidacy for the White House in the coming weeks. Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, who’s making his second straight bid for the Democratic nomination, is in second in the survey, at 19 percent.

Biden and Sanders have topped almost every national and early voting state poll in the 2020 Democratic race, including a Fox News poll released a few days ago. Their strong standing is fueled in part by their widespread name recognition. Name ID heavily influences horserace polls in the early parts of a cycle.

Sen. Kamala Harris of California came in fourth in the poll, at 8 percent, with Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts at 4 percent alongside Buttigieg. Sens. Cory Booker of New Jersey and Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota stood at 2 percent. The rest of the large field of Democratic contenders registered at 1 percent or less.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/orourke-buttigieg-numbers-pop-in-new-2020-national-poll.amp

I guess I need to figure out who this Buttigieg guy is, but does anyone else find O'Rourke extremely unimpressive?  He comes across as socially awkward and sounds like he isn't very bright.  Lacks substance.  Why are they giving him so much money? 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on March 28, 2019, 03:42:41 PM
I guess I need to figure out who this Buttigieg guy is, but does anyone else find O'Rourke extremely unimpressive?  He comes across as socially awkward and sounds like he isn't very bright.  Lacks substance.  Why are they giving him so much money? 

Don't get the Beto thing at all.  He's just this "guy" saying stupid shit. Does not seem like a leader with any true experience at anything.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 28, 2019, 03:57:46 PM
Don't get the Beto thing at all.  He's just this "guy" saying stupid shit. Does not seem like a leader with any true experience at anything.

Agree. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 28, 2019, 09:08:44 PM
Agree. 

You have to remember... Beto is kind of the lefts Trump.  Says shit that doesn't make sense, or makes sense but can never be implemented, but people are so tired of the status quo they are willing to take a shot.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: mazrim on March 29, 2019, 09:57:14 AM
Don't get the Beto thing at all.  He's just this "guy" saying stupid shit. Does not seem like a leader with any true experience at anything.
Definite "go with the flow" type of guy. Apologizing for complimenting his wife? Pretty sad that he felt the need to do that due to the pressure of the "mother is a deragotary term" crowd.

He just starts raising his voice with it shaking/seems very contrived in his attempts to be passionate.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 29, 2019, 03:15:28 PM
I learned in a marketing class , if you don't "get" the ad , you aren't the target demographic.

I think Beto sounds smart with a passion for issues that I relate to.
I always thought Trump sounded like a moronic buffoon .
Guess who we each voted for ...? ;)


So, by that logic you admit somehow Hillary's ads were targeting you?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on March 29, 2019, 03:57:04 PM
You have to remember... Beto is kind of the lefts Trump.  Says shit that doesn't make sense, or makes sense but can never be implemented, but people are so tired of the status quo they are willing to take a shot.

I don't draw that parallel at all.

They're entirely different - one will say/be anything to appease, the other doesn't give a fuck what his detractors think.

Whether you like what Trump has said or not, he was pretty direct, and has implemented many things he said he was going to do.

The Wall of course gets all the attention, but he's made good on plenty of his promises.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 29, 2019, 05:09:16 PM
Don't get the Beto thing at all.  He's just this "guy" saying stupid shit. Does not seem like a leader with any true experience at anything.

If Trump could get elected with zero experience, anyone could. I doubt Beto would stoop to the level of calling people childish name's like "pencil neck" in public as Trump recently did when talking about Nunes.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 29, 2019, 10:55:13 PM
You have to remember... Beto is kind of the lefts Trump.  Says shit that doesn't make sense, or makes sense but can never be implemented, but people are so tired of the status quo they are willing to take a shot.

They are not in the same universe.  Trump is funny.  Beto is not.  Trump's private sector success dwarfed Beto.  Trump has had two of the most successful presidential years of my lifetime.  Beto is just some socially awkward weirdo who a lot of dummies donated an obscene amount of money to and still lost. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 30, 2019, 08:17:17 AM
Lucy Flores: Joe Biden Can’t Recall Kissing Incident Because He’s ‘So Used to Behaving’ That Way

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Lucy Flores was getting ready to deliver a speech as the Democratic nominee for Lieutenant Governor of Nevada in 2014, when she alleges that former Vice President Joe Biden, who had come to campaign on her behalf, kissed her on the back of her head without her consent.

Now she has a message for the potential 2020 contender after a spokesperson said he couldn’t recall the incident.


“I would say I hope you recognize how your behavior made women feel,” Flores told The Daily Beast on Friday night. “I hope you are empathetic to how your behavior makes a lasting impression on women.”

Flores said the unwanted attention stung even more in light of Biden’s status at the time.

“To me, he no longer had a name,” Flores said. “That was not Joe Biden. To me, that was the vice president of the United States of America. The second most powerful man in the country. And we have no prior relationship. We’re not friends. There’s no relationship whatsoever. And then he begins to not only touch me but get really inappropriately close. And then lean in, and smell my hair and kiss my head.”

Flores, who first wrote about the alleged incident in a piece for “The Cut,” part of New York Magazine, described the situation, which she said occurred as she was prepared to walk onstage, as “shocking.”

“I just froze. I didn’t know what to do,” she continued. “Because again the only thing that you’re processing is that there is a very powerful man standing next to you. That person is there to campaign on your behalf and you just don’t know how to respond. I mean that’s how I felt. I literally just didn’t even know what to do other than just wish the moment away.”

Biden’s camp has said that while he respects Flores and does not deny her right to tell her story, he can recall no such incident.

“Vice President Biden was pleased to support Lucy Flores’s candidacy for Lieutenant Governor of Nevada in 2014 and to speak on her behalf at a well-attended public event,” Bill Russo, a spokesperson for Biden said. “Neither then, nor in the years since, did he or the staff with him at the time have an inkling that Ms. Flores had been at any time uncomfortable, nor do they recall what she describes.”

But Flores, 39, has stuck by her account. In her piece for “The Cut,” she said that she told a few members of her staff what had taken place after the event. However, she said that she did not have permission to share personal information about them. The Daily Beast was able to view correspondence between Flores and another individual discussing the alleged incident in Nevada years prior to the New York Magazine article. The exchange gives credence to Flores’ claim to the extent that it shows it was an incident she talked about before going public this Friday.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/lucy-flores-joe-biden-cant-recall-kissing-incident-because-hes-so-used-to-behaving-that-way?ref=scroll
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on March 30, 2019, 10:47:09 AM
Lucy Flores: Joe Biden Can’t Recall Kissing Incident Because He’s ‘So Used to Behaving’ That Way

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Lucy Flores was getting ready to deliver a speech as the Democratic nominee for Lieutenant Governor of Nevada in 2014, when she alleges that former Vice President Joe Biden, who had come to campaign on her behalf, kissed her on the back of her head without her consent.

Now she has a message for the potential 2020 contender after a spokesperson said he couldn’t recall the incident.


“I would say I hope you recognize how your behavior made women feel,” Flores told The Daily Beast on Friday night. “I hope you are empathetic to how your behavior makes a lasting impression on women.”

Flores said the unwanted attention stung even more in light of Biden’s status at the time.

“To me, he no longer had a name,” Flores said. “That was not Joe Biden. To me, that was the vice president of the United States of America. The second most powerful man in the country. And we have no prior relationship. We’re not friends. There’s no relationship whatsoever. And then he begins to not only touch me but get really inappropriately close. And then lean in, and smell my hair and kiss my head.”

Flores, who first wrote about the alleged incident in a piece for “The Cut,” part of New York Magazine, described the situation, which she said occurred as she was prepared to walk onstage, as “shocking.”

“I just froze. I didn’t know what to do,” she continued. “Because again the only thing that you’re processing is that there is a very powerful man standing next to you. That person is there to campaign on your behalf and you just don’t know how to respond. I mean that’s how I felt. I literally just didn’t even know what to do other than just wish the moment away.”

Biden’s camp has said that while he respects Flores and does not deny her right to tell her story, he can recall no such incident.

“Vice President Biden was pleased to support Lucy Flores’s candidacy for Lieutenant Governor of Nevada in 2014 and to speak on her behalf at a well-attended public event,” Bill Russo, a spokesperson for Biden said. “Neither then, nor in the years since, did he or the staff with him at the time have an inkling that Ms. Flores had been at any time uncomfortable, nor do they recall what she describes.”

But Flores, 39, has stuck by her account. In her piece for “The Cut,” she said that she told a few members of her staff what had taken place after the event. However, she said that she did not have permission to share personal information about them. The Daily Beast was able to view correspondence between Flores and another individual discussing the alleged incident in Nevada years prior to the New York Magazine article. The exchange gives credence to Flores’ claim to the extent that it shows it was an incident she talked about before going public this Friday.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/lucy-flores-joe-biden-cant-recall-kissing-incident-because-hes-so-used-to-behaving-that-way?ref=scroll
Kiss on the head? I thought it was the neck?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 30, 2019, 12:24:32 PM
You have to remember... Beto is kind of the lefts Trump.  Says shit that doesn't make sense, or makes sense but can never be implemented, but people are so tired of the status quo they are willing to take a shot.


Haha, no...just no.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: mazrim on March 30, 2019, 02:42:15 PM
If Trump could get elected with zero experience, anyone could. I doubt Beto would stoop to the level of calling people childish name's like "pencil neck" in public as Trump recently did when talking about Nunes.
Trump would never besmirch Nunes like that.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on March 30, 2019, 03:23:18 PM
Lucy Flores: Joe Biden Can’t Recall Kissing Incident Because He’s ‘So Used to Behaving’ That Way

(https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_575,w_1023,x_0,y_0/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_655/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1553909422/PSX_20190329_202725_ps8ex6)

Lucy Flores was getting ready to deliver a speech as the Democratic nominee for Lieutenant Governor of Nevada in 2014, when she alleges that former Vice President Joe Biden, who had come to campaign on her behalf, kissed her on the back of her head without her consent.

Now she has a message for the potential 2020 contender after a spokesperson said he couldn’t recall the incident.


“I would say I hope you recognize how your behavior made women feel,” Flores told The Daily Beast on Friday night. “I hope you are empathetic to how your behavior makes a lasting impression on women.”

Flores said the unwanted attention stung even more in light of Biden’s status at the time.

“To me, he no longer had a name,” Flores said. “That was not Joe Biden. To me, that was the vice president of the United States of America. The second most powerful man in the country. And we have no prior relationship. We’re not friends. There’s no relationship whatsoever. And then he begins to not only touch me but get really inappropriately close. And then lean in, and smell my hair and kiss my head.”

Flores, who first wrote about the alleged incident in a piece for “The Cut,” part of New York Magazine, described the situation, which she said occurred as she was prepared to walk onstage, as “shocking.”

“I just froze. I didn’t know what to do,” she continued. “Because again the only thing that you’re processing is that there is a very powerful man standing next to you. That person is there to campaign on your behalf and you just don’t know how to respond. I mean that’s how I felt. I literally just didn’t even know what to do other than just wish the moment away.”

Biden’s camp has said that while he respects Flores and does not deny her right to tell her story, he can recall no such incident.

“Vice President Biden was pleased to support Lucy Flores’s candidacy for Lieutenant Governor of Nevada in 2014 and to speak on her behalf at a well-attended public event,” Bill Russo, a spokesperson for Biden said. “Neither then, nor in the years since, did he or the staff with him at the time have an inkling that Ms. Flores had been at any time uncomfortable, nor do they recall what she describes.”

But Flores, 39, has stuck by her account. In her piece for “The Cut,” she said that she told a few members of her staff what had taken place after the event. However, she said that she did not have permission to share personal information about them. The Daily Beast was able to view correspondence between Flores and another individual discussing the alleged incident in Nevada years prior to the New York Magazine article. The exchange gives credence to Flores’ claim to the extent that it shows it was an incident she talked about before going public this Friday.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/lucy-flores-joe-biden-cant-recall-kissing-incident-because-hes-so-used-to-behaving-that-way?ref=scroll

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A-Dem-o-crat. A Dem-o-crat, A Dem-O-Crat, A-Dem-O Crat


Shh, my darling, no tears my darling
Joe Biden creeps tonight
Shh, my darling just dreams my darling
Joe Biden creeps tonight

A-Dem-o-crat. A Dem-o-crat, A Dem-O-Crat, A-Dem-O Crat
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on March 31, 2019, 08:27:41 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: mazrim on April 01, 2019, 09:03:20 AM
:D
lol
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 01, 2019, 11:57:33 AM
(https://media.breitbart.com/media/2019/04/joe-biden-women-hair-getty-640x480.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 01, 2019, 12:22:08 PM
Connecticut woman says VP Biden touched her inappropriately at fundraiser in 2009 (trunc, new claim)
Hartford Courant ^ | April 1, 2019 | Neil Vigdor
Posted on 4/1/2019, 3:01:35 PM by abb

A Connecticut woman says Joe Biden touched her inappropriately and rubbed noses with her during a 2009 political fundraiser in Greenwich when he was vice president, drawing further scrutiny to the Democrat and his history of unwanted contact with women as he ponders a presidential run

“It wasn’t sexual, but he did grab me by the head," Amy Lappos told The Courant Monday. “He put his hand around my neck and pulled me in to rub noses with me. When he was pulling me in, I thought he was going to kiss me on the mouth.”

Lappos posted about the alleged incident on the Facebook page of Connecticut Women in Politics Sunday in response to a similar account by former Nevada legislator Lucy Flores, which comes as Biden is considering a 2020 run for president. Flores accused Biden of kissing her on the back of her head in 2014, when she was a candidate for lieutenant governor.

Lappos, 43, who is now a freelance worker with nonprofit agencies, said she felt extremely uncomfortable when Biden approached her at the 2009 fundraiser for U.S. Rep. Jim Himes, D-4th, where she was volunteering. At the time, Lappos was a congressional aide to Himes, who she said was not in the room when the incident took place.

snip

(Excerpt) Read more at courant.com ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 01, 2019, 01:23:47 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3FQ95qU0AE3hcm.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 01, 2019, 03:44:18 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3FQ95qU0AE3hcm.jpg:large)


Oooo ahhh ooo ahhh  oooo ahhhh.....




This song will play at every Trump rally if Biden is the dem nominee......bank on it!!!

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Princess L on April 01, 2019, 03:57:37 PM

Oooo ahhh ooo ahhh  oooo ahhhh.....




This song will play at every Trump rally if Biden is the dem nominee......bank on it!!!



Put a fork in 'ol Uncle Joe
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 02, 2019, 04:33:54 AM
Connecticut woman says then-Vice President Joe Biden touched her inappropriately at a Greenwich fundraiser in 2009

(https://www.courant.com/resizer/gBCd6GK1PsisxDgdi5PHpkqK4uc=/415x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/3YFIFUCQAZB3LG7V6THAAPQIXI.jpg)


A Connecticut woman says Joe Biden touched her inappropriately and rubbed noses with her during a 2009 political fundraiser in Greenwich when he was vice president, drawing further scrutiny to the Democrat and his history of unwanted contact with women as he ponders a presidential run

"It wasn't sexual, but he did grab me by the head," Amy Lappos told The Courant Monday. "He put his hand around my neck and pulled me in to rub noses with me. When he was pulling me in, I thought he was going to kiss me on the mouth."

Lappos posted about the alleged incident on the Facebook page of Connecticut Women in Politics Sunday in response to a similar account by former Nevada legislator Lucy Flores, which comes as Biden is considering a 2020 run for president. Flores accused Biden of kissing her on the back of her head in 2014, when she was a candidate for lieutenant governor.

Lappos, 43, who is now a freelance worker with nonprofit agencies, said she felt extremely uncomfortable when Biden approached her at the 2009 fundraiser for U.S. Rep. Jim Himes, D-4th, where she was volunteering. At the time, Lappos was a congressional aide to Himes, who she said was not in the room when the incident took place.

"I never filed a complaint, to be honest, because he was the vice president. I was a nobody," Lappos said. "There's absolutely a line of decency. There's a line of respect. Crossing that line is not grandfatherly. It's not cultural. It's not affection. It's sexism or misogyny."

A spokeswoman for Biden declined to respond to the allegations by Lappos and instead offered a statement that Biden issued Sunday about the Flores controversy.


https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-biden-grabbed-aide-20190401-vl7chim3hrdjtcwu2tszrhozzm-story.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on April 02, 2019, 04:35:40 AM
I hope they cannibalize themselves to ruin.  Liberals are the bane of civilization and deserve to be shipped to muslime lands to live out their unnatural days in the captivity they seem to so long for.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 02, 2019, 05:40:17 AM
Is Creepy Old Uncle Joe Toast?=Fondling and kissing women may be the former veep’s undoing.
Frontpagemagazine ^ | April 2, 2019 | Matthew Vadum
Posted on 4/2/2019, 7:52:28 AM by SJackson

Easily the most hands-on vice president the United States has ever seen, Joe Biden’s creepy old man behavior is finally catching up with him.

After decades of snuggling up to, hugging, sniffing, and kissing unsuspecting, helpless women of all ages, the avuncular, gaffe-prone 76-year-old politician has suddenly come under attack for two such examples of unwanted touching that allegedly took place in Nevada in 2014 and in Connecticut in 2009.

Lucy Flores, the Democrats’ nominee for lieutenant governor of Nevada five years ago, wrote an essay March 29 at something called The Cut detailing how she endured undesired touching by Biden who had come to her campaign event to lend a hand.

Contenders for the 2020 Democrat presidential nod are distancing themselves from Biden. Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn) both said they have “no reason not to believe” Flores. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julian Castro also said they “believe” Flores. Former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper said the allegations about Biden are “very disconcerting.”

Flores’ story apparently inspired Amy Lappos to go public Monday with a claim that Biden touched her inappropriately at a fundraiser for Rep. Jim Hines (D-Conn.).

“It wasn’t sexual, but he did grab me by the head,” Lappos, a congressional aide to Hines at the time of the incident, told the Hartford Courant on April 1. “He put his hand around my neck and pulled me in to rub noses with me. When he was pulling me in, I thought he was going to kiss me on the mouth.”

“I never filed a complaint, to be honest, because he was the vice president. I was a nobody,” Lappos said. “There’s absolutely a line of decency. There’s a line of respect. Crossing that line is not grandfatherly. It’s not cultural. It’s not affection. It’s sexism or misogyny.”

So far the complaint by Flores has made a bigger splash than the one by Lappos. This is at least in part because of the opportune timing of Flores’ article, which allowed all sorts of ambitious Democrats to stampede their way onto Sunday TV talk shows to denounce Biden.

According to Flores, back in 2014 after she found her way to the holding room for rally speakers at a union hall in Las Vegas, “we were ushered to the side of the stage where we were lined up by order of introduction.”

She continued:

As I was taking deep breaths and preparing myself to make my case to the crowd, I felt two hands on my shoulders. I froze. “Why is the vice-president of the United States touching me?”

I felt him get closer to me from behind. He leaned further in and inhaled my hair. I was mortified. I thought to myself, “I didn’t wash my hair today and the vice-president of the United States is smelling it. And also, what in the actual fuck? Why is the vice-president of the United States smelling my hair?” He proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head. My brain couldn’t process what was happening. I was embarrassed. I was shocked. I was confused. There is a Spanish saying, “tragame tierra,” it means, “earth, swallow me whole.” I couldn’t move and I couldn’t say anything. I wanted nothing more than to get Biden away from me. My name was called and I was never happier to get on stage in front of an audience.

Instead of feeling empowered and energized, Biden made her feel “uneasy, gross, and confused.”

The U.S. vice president “had just touched me in an intimate way reserved for close friends, family, or romantic partners — and I felt powerless to do anything about it.”

Biden “stopped treating me like a peer the moment he touched me. Even if his behavior wasn’t violent or sexual, it was demeaning and disrespectful. I wasn’t attending the rally as his mentee or even his friend; I was there as the most qualified person for the job.”

“If Biden and I worked together in a traditional office, I would have complained to the HR department, but on the campaign trail, there’s no clear path for what to do when a powerful man crosses the line. In politics, you shrug it off, smile for the cameras, and get back to the task of trying to win your race.”

Caught with his pants down, so to speak, Biden, a perennial favorite of Democrats who would be a serious contender should he seek his party’s 2020 presidential nomination, offered a hard-to-believe statement to the media regarding Flores’ allegation, a statement his office repeated when the Hartford Courant asked him about the Lappos claim.

“In my many years on the campaign trail and in public life, I have offered countless handshakes, hugs, expressions of affection, support and comfort,” Biden said.

“And not once - never - did I believe I acted inappropriately. If it is suggested I did so, I will listen respectfully. But it was never my intention. I may not recall these moments the same way, and I may be surprised at what I hear. But we have arrived at an important time when women feel they can and should relate their experiences, and men should pay attention. And I will.”

Bill Clinton provided a similar statement on Jan. 26, 1998, when confronted about his affair with a young White House intern.

“I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie. Not a single time. Never. These allegations are false and I need to go back to work for the American people.”

Except Biden, who has falsely claimed at least twice that a drunk driver killed his first wife, is even less believable than Clinton was.

Biden’s groping and prurient pawing of women in public is well-documented.

Jeremy Lott, author of The Warm Bucket Brigade: The Story of the American Vice Presidency, was mildly sympathetic to Biden’s plight.

“Some people are more tactile than others, and I think we should allow a bit of leeway for that,” Lott told FrontPage.

“‘He hugged me!’ Uh, sorry but so what? But when I’ve seen pictures of some of the public liberties Uncle Joe has taken with over the years, well, it’s not a surprise that it would come back to pinch his electoral buttcheeks now.”

In a National Review piece titled “Joe Biden is Done,” Kyle Smith may be jumping the gun a little bit, but then again, in the #MeToo age, maybe not.

Biden, Smith notes, “is a creepy old goat. Everyone knows this. There is much photographic evidence of him crossing the line with women.”

But there was never a reason before for the Democrats’ public-relations arm, also known as the mainstream media, “to hold Biden up to scrutiny.”

“When he became veep, any attack on Biden risked looking like casting aspersions on the man who made him his number two, and the media could not countenance any naysaying about the judgment of the Precious.”

But now that Democrats have a smorgasbord of options for 2020, there is no reason to hold back. “All of this goes away as soon as the Democratic pick for 2020 becomes evident, but until then we’ll be seeing some actual vigorous reporting,” Smith writes.

Smith is right.

But there is also a racial animus at play. Biden is unlucky to be white in an epoch of identity politics-driven political correctness.

Democrats hate white people and white men in particular, and they reserve a special place in the depths of Hell for dead and nearly-dead white men. Make the white man an unctuous elderly creep who can’t keep his hands off vulnerable women forced to endure humiliation at his finely manicured hands in public ceremonies, and it’s just a matter of time before he hangs from the nearest lamppost.

So it was just a matter of time before the #MeToo brigades came for poor old Uncle
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on April 02, 2019, 05:47:57 AM
This stuff has been known and discussed for practically all of Obama's administration.

Now Democrats are recognizing it?

LOL please - this is their way to get the old white guy off the ticket without saying it, since he polls well vs the other Democrats.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 02, 2019, 06:14:20 AM
This stuff has been known and discussed for practically all of Obama's administration.

Now Democrats are recognizing it?

LOL please - this is their way to get the old white guy off the ticket without saying it, since he polls well vs the other Democrats.

The entire Slate are psychoes
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 02, 2019, 07:25:21 AM
Seems like the liberal media is turning their backs on him. I wonder who they’re going to push.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on April 02, 2019, 07:33:34 AM
Seems like the liberal media is turning their backs on him. I wonder who they’re going to push.

Harris.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Pray_4_War on April 02, 2019, 08:50:57 AM
This stuff has been known and discussed for practically all of Obama's administration.

Now Democrats are recognizing it?

LOL please - this is their way to get the old white guy off the ticket without saying it, since he polls well vs the other Democrats.

Seems like the liberal media is turning their backs on him. I wonder who they’re going to push.

Yep.  The Democrats and the media are obviously trying to get rid of him and make sure he isn't the nominee in 2020.

Joe Biden has been doing this kind of shit on camera for many years.  Now all of a sudden they have an issue with it.  Now accusers are coming out of the woodwork.

I also find it interesting that the coverage of this has focus solely on adult women and they aren't making an issue of his behavior with children.  Even Hannity is avoiding that for some reason.

(https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-ryFE4ZN2_gw%2FWrTtrqSQA4I%2FAAAAAAAAq40%2FLeBHvoonqB8PXbi_97t3CS5cx9EhegXBgCLcBGAs%2Fs640%2Fjoe%252Bbiden%252Bcreep.jpg&f=1)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 02, 2019, 08:59:38 AM
Harris.

Makes sense. She’s the youngest of the top contenders and she’s a multi ethnic woman. They probably see her as a female Obama,

Yep.  The Democrats and the media are obviously trying to get rid of him and make sure he isn't the nominee in 2020.

Joe Biden has been doing this kind of shit on camera for many years.  Now all of a sudden they have an issue with it.  Now accusers are coming out of the woodwork.

I also find it interesting that the coverage of this has focus solely on adult women and they aren't making an issue of his behavior with children.  Even Hannity is avoiding that for some reason.


Makes Joe Weider look normal.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Pray_4_War on April 02, 2019, 09:03:25 AM
Makes sense. She’s the youngest of the top contenders and she’s a multi ethnic woman. They probably see her as a female Obama,

Probably right but she makes Obama look like Albert Einstein.  Total moron.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 02, 2019, 09:59:35 AM
Bernie Sanders Q1 Fundraising Haul: $18.2 Million
JOEL B. POLLAK 2 Apr 2019
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/02/bernie-sanders-q1-fundraising-haul-18-2-million-41-days/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Pray_4_War on April 02, 2019, 10:18:53 AM
Bernie Sanders Q1 Fundraising Haul: $18.2 Million
JOEL B. POLLAK 2 Apr 2019
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/02/bernie-sanders-q1-fundraising-haul-18-2-million-41-days/

Bernie Sanders will be wearing adult diapers by 2020.  Senile old prick.  Almost 80 years old and never worked a real job.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 02, 2019, 12:02:14 PM
From the article posted by Soul..

"As I was taking deep breaths and preparing myself to make my case to the crowd, I felt two hands on my shoulders. I froze. “Why is the vice-president of the United States touching me?”

I felt him get closer to me from behind. He leaned further in and inhaled my hair. I was mortified. I thought to myself, “I didn’t wash my hair today and the vice-president of the United States is smelling it. And also, what in the actual fuck? Why is the vice-president of the United States smelling my hair?” He proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head. My brain couldn’t process what was happening. I was embarrassed. I was shocked. I was confused. There is a Spanish saying, “tragame tierra,” it means, “earth, swallow me whole.” I couldn’t move and I couldn’t say anything. I wanted nothing more than to get Biden away from me. My name was called and I was never happier to get on stage in front of an audience.

Instead of feeling empowered and energized, Biden made her feel “uneasy, gross, and confused.” "

Never heard that part of the story.  There goes the hispanic, and women's vote all at once.

Clearly she is 100% being truthful about this.  No one recalls things with such detail, and anger in there words if it wasn't a truly disturbing moment to them. 

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 02, 2019, 12:18:29 PM
Bernie Sanders will be wearing adult diapers by 2020.  Senile old prick.  Almost 80 years old and never worked a real job.

If he still at least somewhat coherent, he’s going to be hard to deny.  Say what you want, but the guy has been campaigning since the 1970s. He knows what he’s doing, and this time there’s here’s no Hillary machine blocking him.

I’m actually rooting for the decrepit old fuck. I’d like to see the 2020 election as a referendum on socialism.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 02, 2019, 12:39:56 PM
If he still at least somewhat coherent, he’s going to be hard to deny.  Say what you want, but the guy has been campaigning since the 1970s. He knows what he’s doing, and this time there’s here’s no Hillary machine blocking him.

I’m actually rooting for the decrepit old fuck. I’d like to see the 2020 election as a referendum on socialism.

Me too, but the thing that scares me is that we have social media now and the 18-25 year olds...especially those in school, are more concerned about what's trending than what's true and right.  They have the attention span of a gnat, and they have no understanding of the real world.  When you're facing college tuition debt "free college for everyone" sounds really cool.  When you think about everything that would come with that (which they won't) you realize it's not a great thing at all.  It is actually very uncool.

I know you get it, but for those that don't; one of the first questions they should sit and think through is....

If everyone's degree is free, what's YOUR degree worth?  (This is where it would be nice if Teh Ron added some new emoji's.....specifically, a turd pile with flies swarming)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 02, 2019, 02:00:50 PM
Me too, but the thing that scares me is that we have social media now and the 18-25 year olds...especially those in school, are more concerned about what's trending than what's true and right.  They have the attention span of a gnat, and they have no understanding of the real world.  When you're facing college tuition debt "free college for everyone" sounds really cool.  When you think about everything that would come with that (which they won't) you realize it's not a great thing at all.  It is actually very uncool.

I know you get it, but for those that don't; one of the first questions they should sit and think through is....

If everyone's degree is free, what's YOUR degree worth?  (This is where it would be nice if Teh Ron added some new emoji's.....specifically, a turd pile with flies swarming)

From what I’ve seen, a few years in the real world, paying real bills usually cures these kids of their delusions.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 02, 2019, 03:10:49 PM
Bernie Sanders Q1 Fundraising Haul: $18.2 Million
JOEL B. POLLAK 2 Apr 2019
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/02/bernie-sanders-q1-fundraising-haul-18-2-million-41-days/

Still don't understand the logic of people donating what now is $18M+ to an old man that claims he will help the poor IF elected.  Seems much more logical to go walking up and down skid rows across America or to the local homeless shelter to make a donation.  Chances are they would also be much more grateful than that mean little bastard as well.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on April 02, 2019, 03:46:41 PM
Still don't understand the logic of people donating what now is $18M+ to an old man that claims he will help the poor IF elected.  Seems much more logical to go walking up and down skid rows across America or to the local homeless shelter to make a donation.  Chances are they would also be much more grateful than that mean little bastard as well.
That would take more effort than just clicking the Donate button on a website.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 02, 2019, 04:24:35 PM
That would take more effort than just clicking the Donate button on a website.

And actual interaction with real life homeless people.  "Ewww...gross!" - said the left
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 02, 2019, 07:22:48 PM
 comments.

Two more women accuse Biden of inappropriate touching
The Hill ^ | - 04/02/19 08:24 PM EDT | MICHAEL BURKE
Posted on 4/2/2019, 6:46:46 PM by conservative98

Two additional women came forward Tuesday to say former Vice President Joe Biden touched them in ways that made them uncomfortable.

The women, Caitlyn Caruso and D. J. Hill, each recounted their experiences to The New York Times.

Caruso, 22, told the Times that Biden rested his hand on her thigh even as she attempted to show her discomfort by squirming in her seat during a sexual assault event at the University of Nevada at Las Vegas. Caruso, who was 19 at the time, added that Biden hugged her "just a little bit too long."

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...

TOPICS: News/




Creepy
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 02, 2019, 07:50:56 PM
From what I’ve seen, a few years in the real world, paying real bills usually cures these kids of their delusions.

And taxes.  lol
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 02, 2019, 08:00:10 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3MJ6OaX4AAZ18H.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 02, 2019, 10:05:59 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3MJ6OaX4AAZ18H.jpg)

LMFAO!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 03, 2019, 04:20:53 AM
I just don't get it

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D29TUN3X4AEV4-g?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 03, 2019, 06:47:23 AM
I just don't get it

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D29TUN3X4AEV4-g?format=jpg&name=large)

TDS is real.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 03, 2019, 07:43:12 AM
I just don't get it

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D29TUN3X4AEV4-g?format=jpg&name=large)

Sickos.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 03, 2019, 09:36:56 AM
Trump would never besmirch Nunes like that.



Of course not.  ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 04, 2019, 11:08:03 AM
Meh.  Another garden variety liberal-statist-progressive who is being propped up because of his identity rather than his solid policy ideas.  Just like Obama.  Liberals-statists-progressives are obsessed with identity politics.

Pete Buttigieg Calls For Death Penalty To Be Abolished
“Capital punishment as seen in America has always been a discriminatory practice,” the 2020 presidential hopeful said.
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By Hayley Miller
POLITICS 04/04/2019

Pete Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and a 2020 Democratic presidential hopeful, has called for the abolishment of the death penalty.

Buttigieg, while speaking at the 2019 National Action Network Convention in New York City, outlined his vision for reforming the criminal justice system if elected president, which includes ending capital punishment.

“As we work to end mandatory minimums for nonviolent offenses, as we work to put an end to prolonged solitary confinement, which is a form of torture,” he said, “here too we must be intentional about fixing disparities that have strong and deeply unfair racial consequences.”

He added: “Speaking of sentencing disparities, it is time to face the simple fact that capital punishment as seen in America has always been a discriminatory practice and we would be a fairer and safer country when we join the ranks of modern nations who have abolished the death penalty.”

Buttigieg joins several other high-profile Democrats, including many 2020 candidates, who have called for an end to the death penalty. Sens. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), Cory Booker (D-N.J.) and Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) ― all presidential hopefuls ― applauded California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s decision last month to halt executions in his state.

“The death penalty is immoral, discriminatory, ineffective, and proven to be unequally applied,” Harris tweeted following Newsom’s announcement in March.

The death penalty in the U.S. disproportionately impacts people of color. Black people make up 13 percent of the population, yet 42 percent of death row and 35 percent of those executed, according to the NAACP.

“We insist that being pro-minority and being pro-racial justice not only can but must be compatible with being pro-rule of law,” Buttigieg said Thursday. “[It] should go without saying but in these times must be said clearly and again and again that black lives matter.”

Buttigieg on Thursday joined several other 2020 Democratic hopefuls in declaring his support for restoring the voting rights of ex-felons, calling it “the right thing to do.”

Like Beto O’Rourke on Wednesday, Buttigieg also said if he were president he would sign a bill from Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) to create a commission to study and develop reparations for the black community.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pete-buttigieg-death-penalty_n_5ca5feb6e4b0409b0ec4a692
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 04, 2019, 09:10:32 PM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!   ;D

Eric Swalwell Is Running for President on Gun Safety
The California congressman is partnering with a Parkland student and says he isn’t afraid of the NRA.
EDWARD-ISAAC DOVERE
(https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2019/04/AP_18197721362237/lead_720_405.jpg?mod=1554367933)
J. SCOTT APPLEWHITE / ASSOCIATED PRESS
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/04/eric-swalwell-says-gun-safety-must-be-top-2020-issue/586483/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Pray_4_War on April 04, 2019, 09:26:36 PM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!   ;D

Eric Swalwell Is Running for President on Gun Safety
The California congressman is partnering with a Parkland student and says he isn’t afraid of the NRA.
EDWARD-ISAAC DOVERE
J. SCOTT APPLEWHITE / ASSOCIATED PRESS
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/04/eric-swalwell-says-gun-safety-must-be-top-2020-issue/586483/

Eric Swallowswell can fuck off and die.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 04, 2019, 09:49:21 PM
Eric Swallowswell can fuck off and die.

Hands down one of the dumbest members of Congress.  He calls Trump a Russian agent.  Tinfoil hat dummy.  lol
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on April 04, 2019, 09:56:37 PM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!   ;D

Eric Swalwell Is Running for President on Gun Safety
The California congressman is partnering with a Parkland student and says he isn’t afraid of the NRA.
EDWARD-ISAAC DOVERE
(https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2019/04/AP_18197721362237/lead_720_405.jpg?mod=1554367933)
J. SCOTT APPLEWHITE / ASSOCIATED PRESS
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/04/eric-swalwell-says-gun-safety-must-be-top-2020-issue/586483/
Why would anyone be afraid of the NRA ??? They've never hurt anyone or caused harm to any group of people.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 04, 2019, 10:54:36 PM
Hands down one of the dumbest members of Congress.  He calls Trump a Russian agent.  Tinfoil hat dummy.  lol

Seems plausible.  :)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Pray_4_War on April 05, 2019, 10:51:38 AM
Why would anyone be afraid of the NRA ??? They've never hurt anyone or caused harm to any group of people.

The NRA has about 6 million members.  Americans that fund it and count on it to protect their rights.  Democrats like Swallowswell don't hate the NRA, they hate us.

Similarly, Donald Trump was elected by millions of American voters.  Democrats don't hate Donald Trump, they hate us.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2019, 12:09:48 PM
Why would anyone be afraid of the NRA ??? They've never hurt anyone or caused harm to any group of people.

Don't try and confuse people with the facts. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2019, 12:10:13 PM
Seems plausible.  :)

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/016/146/eird-al-yankovic-tin-foil-hat-160x160.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2019, 12:14:58 PM
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/016/146/eird-al-yankovic-tin-foil-hat-160x160.jpg)

Your post is great! -Just curious, what happens if we find out Trump is truly a Russian agent? Who wears the tinfoil hat then?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Pray_4_War on April 05, 2019, 01:18:03 PM
Your post is great! -Just curious, what happens if we find out Trump is truly a Russian agent? Who wears the tinfoil hat then?

Are you fucking kidding me?  hahaha.  You are as bad as a Flat Earther.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2019, 06:25:42 PM
Your post is great! -Just curious, what happens if we find out Trump is truly a Russian agent? Who wears the tinfoil hat then?

What happens if we find out we faked the moon landing?  Same caliber of question. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2019, 06:26:01 PM
Are you fucking kidding me?  hahaha.  You are as bad as a Flat Earther.



Yep.   :-\
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2019, 08:30:23 PM
What happens if we find out we faked the moon landing?  Same caliber of question. 

Hypothetical remarks are so much fun. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 05, 2019, 08:48:35 PM
Yep.   :-\

It’s hilarious someone that old is still so gullible.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2019, 08:50:26 PM
Hypothetical remarks are so much fun. 

Not when they are a byproduct of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2019, 08:50:51 PM
It’s hilarious someone that old is still so gullible.

He's not gullible.  Just suffers from TDS.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 06, 2019, 07:04:31 AM
o comments.

Pete Buttigieg's not-so-secret weapon is his husband, Chasten
wral.com ^ | 4/6/19 | Kate Bennett, CNN
Posted on 4/6/2019, 5:42:27 AM by madprof98

CNN — There are now 17 hopefuls vying for the Democratic vote to become President of the United States, but there's only one whose spouse has become a talker.

If Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Indiana, is having a moment, so is his husband, 29-year-old Chasten Buttigieg. His sense of humor and revealing honesty about his feelings have been a hit on social media, boosting his followers by the tens of thousands in recent weeks and helping put "Mayor Pete" on the millennial radar.

"The thing I love about him, and maybe the thing you love about him, too, is he is the same person whether we are at home folding laundry together, or if he's in front of a room like this, full of supporters. He's the exact same person," said Buttigieg on Thursday night at a Washington fundraiser for his husband.

***
At the Thursday fundraiser, Chasten Buttigieg discussed the couple's first date, four years ago, a few weeks after they met, virtually, on the dating app Hinge.

"I really could tell on our first date when we were walking the streets of South Bend, we went to see a South Bend Cubs game, the way he interacts with people, the way he cares about people, that call to service," Buttigieg said. "He is consistently staying up late and thinking and talking to himself and thinking about 'how can I change the world, how can I make it a better place?'"

The couple married in June of last year; at the wedding reception there were arcade games, the claw-grabber (Pete's favorite) and skeeball (Chasten's favorite).

(Excerpt) Read more at wral.com ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 06, 2019, 08:52:30 AM
o comments.

Pete Buttigieg's not-so-secret weapon is his husband, Chasten
wral.com ^ | 4/6/19 | Kate Bennett, CNN
Posted on 4/6/2019, 5:42:27 AM by madprof98

CNN — There are now 17 hopefuls vying for the Democratic vote to become President of the United States, but there's only one whose spouse has become a talker.

If Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Indiana, is having a moment, so is his husband, 29-year-old Chasten Buttigieg. His sense of humor and revealing honesty about his feelings have been a hit on social media, boosting his followers by the tens of thousands in recent weeks and helping put "Mayor Pete" on the millennial radar.

"The thing I love about him, and maybe the thing you love about him, too, is he is the same person whether we are at home folding laundry together, or if he's in front of a room like this, full of supporters. He's the exact same person," said Buttigieg on Thursday night at a Washington fundraiser for his husband.

***
At the Thursday fundraiser, Chasten Buttigieg discussed the couple's first date, four years ago, a few weeks after they met, virtually, on the dating app Hinge.

"I really could tell on our first date when we were walking the streets of South Bend, we went to see a South Bend Cubs game, the way he interacts with people, the way he cares about people, that call to service," Buttigieg said. "He is consistently staying up late and thinking and talking to himself and thinking about 'how can I change the world, how can I make it a better place?'"

The couple married in June of last year; at the wedding reception there were arcade games, the claw-grabber (Pete's favorite) and skeeball (Chasten's favorite).

(Excerpt) Read more at wral.com ...


What an amazing platform and set of policies to run on.

I love how he digs right into the things Americans are concerned with.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 06, 2019, 09:03:14 AM
What an amazing platform and set of policies to run on.

I love how he digs right into the things Americans are concerned with.

Sounds like the gay getbiggers on this board
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 06, 2019, 09:14:44 AM
Well that's not very hopeful!!


Obama: I worry progressives may undercut Democratic allies

(http://www.watcherofweasels.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/obama-change-poster.jpg)

Former President Obama expressed concern about the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, saying he feared it could end up undercutting allies.

Speaking at a town hall event on Saturday for the Obama Foundation in Berlin, the former president spoke about the need for compromise in politics, citing the Affordable Care Act as something that he said signified progress even though it did not achieve all of his aspirations for U.S. health care.

"One of the things I do worry about sometimes among progressives in the United States -maybe it's true here as well - is a certain kind of rigidity where we say, 'Uh, I'm sorry, this is how it's going to be,' and then we start sometimes creating what's called a 'circular firing squad,' where you start shooting at your allies because one of them has strayed from purity on the issues. And when that happens, typically the overall effort and movement weakens," he said.

"So I think whether you are speaking as a citizen or as a political leader or as an organizer ... you have to recognize that the way we structure democracy requires you to take into account people who don't agree with you, and that by definition means you're not going to get 100 percent of what you want," he added.



Obama, who began his career in politics as a community organizer in Chicago before becoming an Illinois state senator and, later, a U.S. senator, recounted the frustration he felt when politicians told him they could not deliver as much progress on an issue as he would like.

Still, Obama said his perspective has changed throughout his political career.

"You should take some time to think in your own mind and continually refine and reflect, 'What are my core principles?' Because the danger is if you don't know what your principles are, that's when you compromise your principles away," he said. "You can't set up a system in which you don't compromise on anything, but you also can't operate in a system where you compromise on everything."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/news/437692-obama-im-worried-progressives-may-form-a-circular-firing-squad%3famp
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Pray_4_War on April 06, 2019, 10:41:25 AM
o comments.

Pete Buttigieg's not-so-secret weapon is his husband, Chasten
wral.com ^ | 4/6/19 | Kate Bennett, CNN
Posted on 4/6/2019, 5:42:27 AM by madprof98

CNN — There are now 17 hopefuls vying for the Democratic vote to become President of the United States, but there's only one whose spouse has become a talker.

If Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Indiana, is having a moment, so is his husband, 29-year-old Chasten Buttigieg. His sense of humor and revealing honesty about his feelings have been a hit on social media, boosting his followers by the tens of thousands in recent weeks and helping put "Mayor Pete" on the millennial radar.

"The thing I love about him, and maybe the thing you love about him, too, is he is the same person whether we are at home folding laundry together, or if he's in front of a room like this, full of supporters. He's the exact same person," said Buttigieg on Thursday night at a Washington fundraiser for his husband.

***
At the Thursday fundraiser, Chasten Buttigieg discussed the couple's first date, four years ago, a few weeks after they met, virtually, on the dating app Hinge.

"I really could tell on our first date when we were walking the streets of South Bend, we went to see a South Bend Cubs game, the way he interacts with people, the way he cares about people, that call to service," Buttigieg said. "He is consistently staying up late and thinking and talking to himself and thinking about 'how can I change the world, how can I make it a better place?'"

The couple married in June of last year; at the wedding reception there were arcade games, the claw-grabber (Pete's favorite) and skeeball (Chasten's favorite).

(Excerpt) Read more at wral.com ...


His "husband".  lol.

Peter Butt-peg, you can't make this shit up.  Good luck in 2020 bro.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 06, 2019, 12:24:46 PM
His "husband".  lol.

Peter Butt-peg, you can't make this shit up.  Good luck in 2020 bro.

I love how they try to make them a "normal" couple by including their favorite arcade games at the end.  I'm sure a few skeeball nerds will now support him.

How did they decide who was going to take the other's last name?  That'd be an interesting story to read......"head"s or "tail"s?  LMFAO...what a world.

Can you imagine how the world would view us if we had a "first man" in the WH?  I understand the whole gay pride thing, but even they need to think about that before casting their vote.  They're not going to be able to go down on each other when beheadings become a thing here to send a message.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2019, 12:47:47 PM
His "husband".  lol.

Peter Butt-peg, you can't make this shit up.  Good luck in 2020 bro.

Peter Buttigieg does not hide being gay. He is out and proud. At this time, he has 2.3 rating in the polls, which is not enough to get nominated much less elected. Assuming you are not gay, why expend energy discussing his candidacy?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2019, 12:49:04 PM
I love how they try to make them a "normal" couple by including their favorite arcade games at the end.  I'm sure a few skeeball nerds will now support him.

How did they decide who was going to take the other's last name?  That'd be an interesting story to read......"head"s or "tail"s?  LMFAO...what a world.

Can you imagine how the world would view us if we had a "first man" in the WH?  I understand the whole gay pride thing, but even they need to think about that before casting their vote.  They're not going to be able to go down on each other when beheadings become a thing here to send a message.

 ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on April 06, 2019, 12:58:53 PM
Peter Buttigieg does not hide being gay. He is out and proud. At this time, he has 2.3 rating in the polls, which is not enough to get nominated much less elected. Assuming you are not gay, why expend energy discussing his candidacy?
Why is he proud?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 06, 2019, 01:06:57 PM
Cause he takes it in the rear.  A proud moment for liberals
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 06, 2019, 01:08:54 PM
::)

You rolling your eyes at any of that just shows what a fucking clueless closet homo you are.

You're really delusional enough to think that those fuckers in Dearborne, MI that openly stoned Christians in front of cops with nothing being done to them wouldn't be sending a message to our government?  

You really think China who is obsessed tradition and family, Putin who is obsessed with being manly, and Iran which fucking hates America and wants to spread Sharia law would take us seriously? Really???

If so you're even dumber, and more willfully ignorant than I thought,....and I had you at a solid 8 and 9.8 respectively for each already.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Pray_4_War on April 06, 2019, 01:10:48 PM
Cause he takes it in the rear.  A proud moment for liberals

So brave, so so brave.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 06, 2019, 01:12:09 PM
Peter Buttigieg does not hide being gay. He is out and proud. At this time, he has 2.3 rating in the polls, which is not enough to get nominated much less elected. Assuming you are not gay, why expend energy discussing his candidacy?

Non-gays are discussing his candidacy for two reasons....

1) The media is pushing him like crazy.
2) Non-gays know that if he were elected it would be a detriment to our international standing, as well as our national security.

To be dismissive of either of those things is to just throw observation, and critical thinking completely out of the window.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 06, 2019, 01:17:22 PM
So brave, so so brave.

Well, I guess if you think about it.....me, you, Chaos, The Scott, Funk, Coach, and a lot of others on this site would never let anyone penetrate our asses as it would not only be disgusting, but likely very painful.

So in that sense, the bravery scorecard is....

Me, P4W, Chaos, The Scott, Funk, Soul, Coach, and a lot of others = 0

Pete, his husband, Prudence, and Prime = 1 (at least)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2019, 01:21:44 PM
Why is he proud?

He's proud rather than ashamed of being gay. Get used to it. Hardly anyone is still hiding in the closet. He's also proud of his accomplishments.

Peter Paul Montgomery Buttigieg is an American war veteran, politician and the mayor of South Bend, Indiana. He previously served as a lieutenant in the United States Navy Reserve. He was a consultant at McKinsey and Company, a management strategy consulting firm, from 2007 through 2010. Wikipedia

(https://www.rightoftheright.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/5b2baa6c1a00002700ce23e4.jpeg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on April 06, 2019, 01:37:39 PM
He's proud rather than ashamed of being gay. Get used to it. Hardly anyone is still hiding in the closet. He's also proud of his accomplishments.

Peter Paul Montgomery Buttigieg is an American war veteran, politician and the mayor of South Bend, Indiana. He previously served as a lieutenant in the United States Navy Reserve. He was a consultant at McKinsey and Company, a management strategy consulting firm, from 2007 through 2010. Wikipedia

(https://www.rightoftheright.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/5b2baa6c1a00002700ce23e4.jpeg)
Being proud of sexual orientation? I thought fags were born that way? Why would you be proud of something you had no control of? Like proud of being white, brown, black.....?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2019, 01:44:17 PM
Being proud of sexual orientation? I thought fags were born that way? Why would you be proud of something you had no control of? Like proud of being white, brown, black.....?

Right. And most successful Bodybuilder's aren't proud of their genetically gifted physiques. It seems you'd rather people be ashamed of their sexual orientation, race, ethnicity and color if it doesn't match yours.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 06, 2019, 01:49:57 PM
Right. And most successful Bodybuilder's aren't proud of their genetically gifted physiques. It seems you'd rather people be ashamed of their sexual orientation, race, ethnicity and color if it doesn't match yours.

No one is saying they need to be ashamed.  At the same time do you seeing us throwing straight parades?  How fucking nonsensical would that be?  Makes about as much sense as parading down the street in ass-less chaps, and chanting "we're queer, we're here" and expecting to be taken seriously, right?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on April 06, 2019, 01:52:42 PM
Right. And most successful Bodybuilder's aren't proud of their genetically gifted physiques. It seems you'd rather people be ashamed of their sexual orientation, race, ethnicity and color if it doesn't match yours.
No need to be ashamed but no need to flaunt it either, nobody is screaming "look at me, look at how straight I am" ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2019, 02:03:35 PM
No need to be ashamed but no need to flaunt it either, nobody is screaming "look at me, look at how straight I am" ::)

Since when did respectable public photos with your partner or saying you're married become flaunting?

Is this couple 'flaunting' their relationship?
(https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/hillary-scott-495.jpg?w=495)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 06, 2019, 02:18:14 PM
Since when did respectable public photos with your partner or saying you're married become flaunting?

Is this couple 'flaunting' their relationship?
(https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/hillary-scott-495.jpg?w=495)

Are they adamantly declaring their straightness on daytime talk shows, and nightly left wing cable "news" programs all week?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on April 06, 2019, 02:26:23 PM
Right. And most successful Bodybuilder's aren't proud of their genetically gifted physiques. It seems you'd rather people be ashamed of their sexual orientation, race, ethnicity and color if it doesn't match yours.
PS: Their bodies require drugs, weights and dieting, being gay requires no effort. I think you might need a break, your posts aren't making any sense lately.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on April 06, 2019, 02:30:54 PM
I don’t see what Butt-Plug has got to be Proud about
He’s queer -Good for Him. Shut up & get on with it.

I’m straight I love women - I don’t need to have march's / special days or anything else
Though in the grand scheme of things us Straights Should as We are The Vast Majority
And Keep The Species Populated - How Great of us.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2019, 03:14:27 PM
Are they adamantly declaring their straightness on daytime talk shows, and nightly left wing cable "news" programs all week?

Probably not, unless they are celebrities or politicians. Public figures need lots of exposure to be known and to be successful in their careers. While I've not seen talk shows  Buttigieg has been a guest on (actually I don't watch or listen to talk shows), it's generally the host who asks the questions rather than the guest randomly volunteering information about their personal lives.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2019, 03:15:56 PM
You rolling your eyes at any of that just shows what a fucking clueless closet homo you are.

You're really delusional enough to think that those fuckers in Dearborne, MI that openly stoned Christians in front of cops with nothing being done to them wouldn't be sending a message to our government?  

You really think China who is obsessed tradition and family, Putin who is obsessed with being manly, and Iran which fucking hates America and wants to spread Sharia law would take us seriously? Really???

If so you're even dumber, and more willfully ignorant than I thought,....and I had you at a solid 8 and 9.8 respectively for each already.

 ::) ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2019, 03:40:36 PM
No one is saying they need to be ashamed.  At the same time do you seeing us throwing straight parades?  How fucking nonsensical would that be?  Makes about as much sense as parading down the street in ass-less chaps, and chanting "we're queer, we're here" and expecting to be taken seriously, right?

There are lots of crazy parades and events around the world that are not gay orientated. The running of the bulls is one such event. Parades are frequently protests or celebrations about something. For example feminist parades.

(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/feminist-300x300.jpg?quality=90&strip=all)

Here's a photo of Slut Walk in Portland.
http://www.sexpositiveworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/IMG_0035-e1474501656436.jpg

Summer of love parade
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4248/34915517600_2cceefa343_z.jpg)

Hummers parade NYC
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/ddf0a3d048ad75d7af6befb5cf0efa04ec859ea5/c=0-27-534-329/local/-/media/2019/01/04/Wilmington/Wilmington/636821815941177207-HummersParade-jh0069.jpeg?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop)

People with a cause appear to like putting their cause on parade.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 06, 2019, 08:07:24 PM
Probably not, unless they are celebrities or politicians. Public figures need lots of exposure to be known and to be successful in their careers. While I've not seen talk shows  Buttigieg has been a guest on (actually I don't watch or listen to talk shows), it's generally the host who asks the questions rather than the guest randomly volunteering information about their personal lives.   

Unlike you, I do watch and listen to opposing views to learn what they have to say.  When they announce a candidate is going to be on the view I usually watch it if I'm able to.  I've seen him on there twice, and he loves talking about teh gay.  Also, you apparently don't understand how talk shows work.  They are essentially scripted with some ad lib.  Why are the there, what's new, what are they pushing, heard a funny story...tell me about that, or comment on some controversy to help them get past it.  Haven't you noticed that's how they all go down by now?  It's been that way since at least Letterman came into the picture.  Leno took it to a new level, and it's just kept progressing into a show like Colbert's which is completely an agenda driven show.

Carson was the last conversation talk show host we'll ever see. :'(
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 07, 2019, 12:59:08 AM
You rolling your eyes at any of that just shows what a fucking clueless closet homo you are.

You're really delusional enough to think that those fuckers in Dearborne, MI that openly stoned Christians in front of cops with nothing being done to them wouldn't be sending a message to our government?  

You really think China who is obsessed tradition and family, Putin who is obsessed with being manly, and Iran which fucking hates America and wants to spread Sharia law would take us seriously? Really???

If so you're even dumber, and more willfully ignorant than I thought,....and I had you at a solid 8 and 9.8 respectively for each already.

And you are even crazier than I thought.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 07, 2019, 01:06:09 AM
Unlike you, I do watch and listen to opposing views to learn what they have to say.  When they announce a candidate is going to be on the view I usually watch it if I'm able to.  I've seen him on there twice, and he loves talking about teh gay.  Also, you apparently don't understand how talk shows work.  They are essentially scripted with some ad lib.  Why are the there, what's new, what are they pushing, heard a funny story...tell me about that, or comment on some controversy to help them get past it.  Haven't you noticed that's how they all go down by now?  It's been that way since at least Letterman came into the picture.  Leno took it to a new level, and it's just kept progressing into a show like Colbert's which is completely an agenda driven show.

Carson was the last conversation talk show host we'll ever see. :'(

I'm so out of touch that I neither care nor do I know who is going to be a guest on The View. In fact, I almost never watch daytime TV. Having said this, I also don't watch late night talk shows. If this is how you get your information, it is no wonder that you are completely fucked up.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 07, 2019, 11:26:36 AM
And you are even crazier than I thought.

WTF, did you forget you'd already replied to this post of mine earlier in the day?  Why am I not surprised liar?

 ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 07, 2019, 11:35:40 AM
I'm so out of touch that I neither care nor do I know who is going to be a guest on The View. In fact, I almost never watch daytime TV. Having said this, I also don't watch late night talk shows. If this is how you get your information, it is no wonder that you are completely fucked up.

That's you're fucking problem, and the reason you're so clueless.  Instead of taking the time to just go to YT, and watch full un-edited clips you take what CNN and MSNBC shove down your throat in a condensed and dumbed-down version that your brain can handle.

I don't watch late night talk shows at all, and the only reason I know who's on the view is that I get up at 9, take the dog out, do cardio, and then turn on the t.v. right around 10  while I have my protein shake which is when it comes on.  If they say they're going to have a candidate on, I'll flip to TPIR to hopefully see some titties bounce as they "come on down" and check back to see if they're done ranting and interviewing the person.....or, I just search it on YT later on in the day. 

Fuck, you are a retard.  So you're sitting on here promoting all these democRatic hopefuls, and you haven't even bothered to listen to them in unedited format to know what the fuck the stand for?

You seriously need to have your voting rights taken away.  You're too much of a damn imbecile, lazy, willfully ignorant, brain washed, and a follower to be trusted with the power of an individual's vote one way or the other at this point.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 07, 2019, 01:54:11 PM
In Iowa, Bernie Sanders says states should allow felons to vote from behind bars

MUSCATINE, Ia. — While Iowa struggles on whether to restore voting rights to felons who have completed their prison sentences, Sen. Bernie Sanders said people convicted of felonies should never lose access to the ballot box in the first place.


At a town hall meeting in Muscatine’s West Middle School gymnasium Saturday, the Vermont senator was asked whether the imprisoned should have the right to vote. Only his home state and Maine allow felons to vote from behind bars.

"I think that is absolutely the direction we should go," he said.

While most states disenfranchise felons, Sanders said the convicted still have a right to participate in elections.

"In my state, what we do is separate. You’re paying a price, you committed a crime, you’re in jail. That's bad," he said. "But you’re still living in American society and you have a right to vote. I believe in that, yes, I do.”

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2019/04/06/bernie-sanders-says-states-should-felon-voting-rights-election-2020-iowa-caucus/3388679002/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 07, 2019, 04:12:22 PM

Bingo

That's you're fucking problem, and the reason you're so clueless.  Instead of taking the time to just go to YT, and watch full un-edited clips you take what CNN and MSNBC shove down your throat in a condensed and dumbed-down version that your brain can handle.

I don't watch late night talk shows at all, and the only reason I know who's on the view is that I get up at 9, take the dog out, do cardio, and then turn on the t.v. right around 10  while I have my protein shake which is when it comes on.  If they say they're going to have a candidate on, I'll flip to TPIR to hopefully see some titties bounce as they "come on down" and check back to see if they're done ranting and interviewing the person.....or, I just search it on YT later on in the day. 

Fuck, you are a retard.  So you're sitting on here promoting all these democRatic hopefuls, and you haven't even bothered to listen to them in unedited format to know what the fuck the stand for?

You seriously need to have your voting rights taken away.  You're too much of a damn imbecile, lazy, willfully ignorant, brain washed, and a follower to be trusted with the power of an individual's vote one way or the other at this point.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 07, 2019, 05:30:39 PM
In Iowa, Bernie Sanders says states should allow felons to vote from behind bars

MUSCATINE, Ia. — While Iowa struggles on whether to restore voting rights to felons who have completed their prison sentences, Sen. Bernie Sanders said people convicted of felonies should never lose access to the ballot box in the first place.


At a town hall meeting in Muscatine’s West Middle School gymnasium Saturday, the Vermont senator was asked whether the imprisoned should have the right to vote. Only his home state and Maine allow felons to vote from behind bars.

"I think that is absolutely the direction we should go," he said.

While most states disenfranchise felons, Sanders said the convicted still have a right to participate in elections.

"In my state, what we do is separate. You’re paying a price, you committed a crime, you’re in jail. That's bad," he said. "But you’re still living in American society and you have a right to vote. I believe in that, yes, I do.”

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2019/04/06/bernie-sanders-says-states-should-felon-voting-rights-election-2020-iowa-caucus/3388679002/



-Seems like a better idea than releasing them so they can vote at the polls.  ;)  I disagree with Sanders comment about incarcerated felons living in American society. Prisoners are living in an alternative society as opposed to mainstream American society.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on April 07, 2019, 05:51:33 PM


-Seems like a better idea than releasing them so they can vote at the polls.  ;)  I disagree with Sanders comment about incarcerated felons living in American society. Prisoners are living in an alternative society as opposed to mainstream American society.

Agreed they are not living in main stream society.
As to whether they should be able to vote - That’s a tricky one, I’d say if they have a sentence of maybe
2yrs or less then probably yes.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 07, 2019, 05:53:59 PM
Democrats need all non taxpayers to vote.    Other than idiot white liberal morons and racist welfare minorities - no one else would ever vote for a democrat
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 08, 2019, 09:58:16 AM
Beto O'Rourke hits ground truth in Iowa as enthusiasm flags

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IOWA CITY, Iowa — Beto O’Rourke saw firsthand what it's like to be just another presidential candidate during a sleepy town hall event Sunday afternoon as the enthusiasm and star power he sought to generate hit ground truth in Iowa.

O'Rourke, 46, a former Texas congressman, started 30 minutes late, and the University of Iowa student union ballroom remained less than half-filled as the candidate gave his pitch to fewer than 120 students, families, and retirees before taking questions. Many of those were not committed to O'Rourke.

A number of attendees remarked to the Washington Examiner that O’Rourke’s crowd was smaller than they anticipated, particularly in a city of 75,000 with a major university. The crowd was less than half the size of audiences drawn by O'Rourke's rival Sen. Bernie Sanders at similar events in smaller towns.

Editorial Director Hugo Gurdon on the expanded Washington Examiner magazine
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Some high school students appeared to have ulterior motives for being there. Julian Wallace, 18, was clad in O'Rourke garb but told the Examiner that he was only wearing it as proof for an extra-credit assignment. His friend Aaron, 17, seemed to be sizing up the competition for his preferred candidate, saying he thought O'Rourke lacked the "big ideas" of former tech executive Andrew Yang.

Spectators noted that O’Rourke’s campaign seemed to struggle getting out information about the event, which was awkwardly timed on a Sunday afternoon when students are attending religious services, participating in extracurricular activities, or nursing a hangover.

Others in attendance said they were there just to hear the perspective of other candidates. One woman in the audience asked O'Rourke how he planned to define himself from all the others in the race.

"We're shopping, we're open to other candidates. Wanted to see Beto in person," a woman named Kelly, who was in the crowd with her husband, told the Examiner.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/beto-orourke-fails-to-fill-auditorium-in-iowa-city
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2019, 04:10:08 PM
Rep. Eric Swalwell of California joins crowded field of 2020 Democratic presidential hopefuls
The four-term congressman, who has been a frequent guest on cable news programs as well as a visitor to Iowa over the past couple of years, added his name to the long list of people vying for the Democrats’ 2020 presidential nomination.

Swalwell, 38, formally announced the campaign during an appearance on CBS’s “Late Show with Stephen Colbert.”
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 08, 2019, 09:26:20 PM
Beto O'Rourke hits ground truth in Iowa as enthusiasm flags

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IOWA CITY, Iowa — Beto O’Rourke saw firsthand what it's like to be just another presidential candidate during a sleepy town hall event Sunday afternoon as the enthusiasm and star power he sought to generate hit ground truth in Iowa.

O'Rourke, 46, a former Texas congressman, started 30 minutes late, and the University of Iowa student union ballroom remained less than half-filled as the candidate gave his pitch to fewer than 120 students, families, and retirees before taking questions. Many of those were not committed to O'Rourke.

A number of attendees remarked to the Washington Examiner that O’Rourke’s crowd was smaller than they anticipated, particularly in a city of 75,000 with a major university. The crowd was less than half the size of audiences drawn by O'Rourke's rival Sen. Bernie Sanders at similar events in smaller towns.

Editorial Director Hugo Gurdon on the expanded Washington Examiner magazine
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Some high school students appeared to have ulterior motives for being there. Julian Wallace, 18, was clad in O'Rourke garb but told the Examiner that he was only wearing it as proof for an extra-credit assignment. His friend Aaron, 17, seemed to be sizing up the competition for his preferred candidate, saying he thought O'Rourke lacked the "big ideas" of former tech executive Andrew Yang.

Spectators noted that O’Rourke’s campaign seemed to struggle getting out information about the event, which was awkwardly timed on a Sunday afternoon when students are attending religious services, participating in extracurricular activities, or nursing a hangover.

Others in attendance said they were there just to hear the perspective of other candidates. One woman in the audience asked O'Rourke how he planned to define himself from all the others in the race.

"We're shopping, we're open to other candidates. Wanted to see Beto in person," a woman named Kelly, who was in the crowd with her husband, told the Examiner.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/beto-orourke-fails-to-fill-auditorium-in-iowa-city


Bolded says a lot.  Less than half of what Sanders got?  So he had a whopping 300-400 people stoked to hear what Sanders was saying?  LOL.

What was the answer the lady got to her question?  Likely it was the same as what was written.....nothing.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 08, 2019, 11:41:25 PM
Biden is the sentimental favorite for those who can remember what of Obama that Trump hasn't already erased.

Bernie is the seasoned veteran at telling people what they want to hear(the free shit army that is)...so they will overlook that he is 100 and white for now.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 09, 2019, 07:01:26 AM
Biden tops 2020 Dems after week of accusations

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Former Vice President Joe Biden tops a list of 2020 Democratic presidential contenders in a new survey after a week during which several women claimed that he touched them inappropriately in the past.

In the Morning Consult survey released late Monday, Biden held the support of 32 percent of voters who intend to participate in the Democratic primaries. The former vice president, who has not officially announced a bid but is widely expected to enter the race, holds a 9-point lead over his closest competitor, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) placed third in the survey with the support of 9 percent of voters, just above former Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D-Texas) at 8 percent.

Former Vice President Joe Biden tops a list of 2020 Democratic presidential contenders in a new survey after a week during which several women claimed that he touched them inappropriately in the past.

In the Morning Consult survey released late Monday, Biden held the support of 32 percent of voters who intend to participate in the Democratic primaries. The former vice president, who has not officially announced a bid but is widely expected to enter the race, holds a 9-point lead over his closest competitor, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) placed third in the survey with the support of 9 percent of voters, just above former Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D-Texas) at 8 percent.


One warning sign for Biden is his favorability rating, which has slipped since the accusations began. The percentage of voters who now say they have a "very favorable" view of the vice president stands at 35 percent, down from 41 percent last week. His overall favorability rating, however, dropped by just 1 percent.

Biden still has the highest favorability rating of any candidate, with Sanders in second place at 32 percent.

South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D) made gains in the new poll, with support increasing to 5 percent from 3 percent last week. He now leads Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) by 1 percentage point and trails Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) by 2 points.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/437972-biden-tops-2020-dems-after-week-of-accusations
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 11, 2019, 12:18:40 PM
They are trying to outdo each other with dumb ideas.

Robert ‘Beto’ O’Rourke to Farmers: Give ‘Fair Share’ of Crops for Climate Change
MICHELLE MOONS
8 Apr 2019, Washington, DC

Democrat 2020 presidential candidate Robert “Beto” O’Rourke proposed Friday in Iowa that the U.S. “allow” farmers to give up their “fair share” of crops to fight climate change.

O’Rourke stood aloft as he proclaimed his message at a rally in Marshalltown, Iowa Friday:

If we allow farmers to earn a profit in what they grow, if we allow them to contribute their fair share in combatting Climate Change by growing cover crops, allowing the technologies that invest in precision tilling and farming, capturing more of that carbon out of the air is another way in which they can make a profit. Keep those farms together, pass them on to the next generation, and allow them to provide us our food and national security, our independence from the rest of the world, our ability to provide for the rest of the world.

Iowa’s caucus system is the earliest to pick a contender for respective political parties in the presidential primary election system. The caucuses are scheduled for Republicans and Democrats on February 3, 2020.

The day O’Rourke announced his bid for president, mid-March in Keokuk, Iowa, he called the Green New Deal the “final chance” with just 12 years left to “take incredibly bold action on [the Climate Change] crisis,” according to RealClearPolitics. He told a crowd, “Not to be dramatic, but literally, the future of the world depends on us right now here where we are.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/08/robert-beto-orourke-to-farmers-give-fair-share-of-crops-for-climate-change/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 11, 2019, 03:43:48 PM
Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttigieg lead 2020 Democrats in new Iowa poll

Former Vice President Joe Biden, who is reportedly in the final stages of announcing a White House bid, leads all Democratic presidential candidates in support among likely caucus-goers in Iowa, according to a new poll. Biden is trailed by Sen. Bernie Sanders and South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg.

In the survey, conducted by Monmouth University, Biden leads a field of 24 announced and potential Democratic presidential candidates with 27 percent support among Iowa voters likely to attend the state's Democratic caucuses, which will take place in February 2020. The former Vice President and longtime Delaware senator leads Sanders, who is backed by 16 percent of the potential caucus-goers; Buttigieg, supported by 9 percent of likely voters; Sens. Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren, who both enjoy 7 percent support from surveyed voters; and former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, backed by 6 percent of likely voters.

Who's running for president? The 2020 Contenders
The rest of the presidential candidates and potential contenders — including Sens. Amy Klobuchar, Cory Booker and Kirsten Gillibrand — all polled below 5 percent in support among likely Iowa voters. The surveyed voters picked Biden, Harris and Warren as their top three second choices.

The poll also asked likely voters about the top issues they want candidates to discuss on the campaign trail. According to the survey, more than half of them said health care should be the foremost priority, while 17 percent indicated environmental issues are important to them. The next four issues were immigration, education, job creation and thwarting President Trump's reelection bid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democrat-president-candidates-2020-poll-joe-biden-bernie-sanders-pete-buttigieg-lead-2020-democrats-in-new-iowa-poll/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on April 11, 2019, 07:20:49 PM
Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttigieg lead 2020 Democrats in new Iowa poll

Former Vice President Joe Biden, who is reportedly in the final stages of announcing a White House bid, leads all Democratic presidential candidates in support among likely caucus-goers in Iowa, according to a new poll. Biden is trailed by Sen. Bernie Sanders and South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg.

In the survey, conducted by Monmouth University, Biden leads a field of 24 announced and potential Democratic presidential candidates with 27 percent support among Iowa voters likely to attend the state's Democratic caucuses, which will take place in February 2020. The former Vice President and longtime Delaware senator leads Sanders, who is backed by 16 percent of the potential caucus-goers; Buttigieg, supported by 9 percent of likely voters; Sens. Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren, who both enjoy 7 percent support from surveyed voters; and former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, backed by 6 percent of likely voters.

Who's running for president? The 2020 Contenders
The rest of the presidential candidates and potential contenders — including Sens. Amy Klobuchar, Cory Booker and Kirsten Gillibrand — all polled below 5 percent in support among likely Iowa voters. The surveyed voters picked Biden, Harris and Warren as their top three second choices.

The poll also asked likely voters about the top issues they want candidates to discuss on the campaign trail. According to the survey, more than half of them said health care should be the foremost priority, while 17 percent indicated environmental issues are important to them. The next four issues were immigration, education, job creation and thwarting President Trump's reelection bid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democrat-president-candidates-2020-poll-joe-biden-bernie-sanders-pete-buttigieg-lead-2020-democrats-in-new-iowa-poll/
That's really going to fuck up the democrats push for a minority/woman ticket.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 14, 2019, 02:55:54 PM
That's really going to fuck up the democrats push for a minority/woman ticket.

I think they are really going to try to push this guy. Ultimately Trump would wreck him though.


‘Mayor Pete’ joins 2020 Dem race as face of new generation

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SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) — Pete Buttigieg, the little-known Indiana mayor who has risen to prominence in the early stages of the 2020 Democratic presidential race, made his official campaign entrance Sunday by claiming the mantle of a youthful generation ready to reshape the country.

“I recognize the audacity of doing this as a Midwestern millennial mayor,” he said to cheers of “Pete, Pete, Pete” from an audience assembled in a former Studebaker auto plant. “More than a little bold, at age 37, to seek the highest office in the land.”


The South Bend mayor, a Rhodes scholar and Afghanistan War veteran who has been essentially campaigning since January, has joined a dozen-plus rivals vying to take on President Donald Trump.

“The forces of change in our country today are tectonic,” he said. “Forces that help to explain what made this current presidency even possible. That’s why, this time, it’s not just about winning an election — it’s about winning an era.”

Buttigieg will return this week to Iowa and New Hampshire, which hold the nation’s first nominating contests, to campaign as a full-fledged candidate now being taken more seriously.

Over the past few months, Buttigieg has appeared frequently on national TV news and talk shows and developed a strong social media following with his message that the country needs “a new generation of leadership.”

Buttigieg’s poll numbers have climbed. Some polls put him behind only Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who sought the party’s nomination in 2016, and former Vice President Joe Biden, who has not yet said he’s running.

Buttigieg’s campaign has raised more than $7 million in the first three months of this year, a total eclipsed by Sanders’ leading $18 million but more than Sens. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and Cory Booker of New Jersey.

https://apnews.com/5ed6605da2a149618d6ecd1a4b0f3da2
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: myt1 on April 14, 2019, 05:51:20 PM
I think they are really going to try to push this guy. Ultimately Trump would wreck him though.


‘Mayor Pete’ joins 2020 Dem race as face of new generation

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SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) — Pete Buttigieg, the little-known Indiana mayor who has risen to prominence in the early stages of the 2020 Democratic presidential race, made his official campaign entrance Sunday by claiming the mantle of a youthful generation ready to reshape the country.

“I recognize the audacity of doing this as a Midwestern millennial mayor,” he said to cheers of “Pete, Pete, Pete” from an audience assembled in a former Studebaker auto plant. “More than a little bold, at age 37, to seek the highest office in the land.”


The South Bend mayor, a Rhodes scholar and Afghanistan War veteran who has been essentially campaigning since January, has joined a dozen-plus rivals vying to take on President Donald Trump.

“The forces of change in our country today are tectonic,” he said. “Forces that help to explain what made this current presidency even possible. That’s why, this time, it’s not just about winning an election — it’s about winning an era.”

Buttigieg will return this week to Iowa and New Hampshire, which hold the nation’s first nominating contests, to campaign as a full-fledged candidate now being taken more seriously.

Over the past few months, Buttigieg has appeared frequently on national TV news and talk shows and developed a strong social media following with his message that the country needs “a new generation of leadership.”

Buttigieg’s poll numbers have climbed. Some polls put him behind only Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who sought the party’s nomination in 2016, and former Vice President Joe Biden, who has not yet said he’s running.

Buttigieg’s campaign has raised more than $7 million in the first three months of this year, a total eclipsed by Sanders’ leading $18 million but more than Sens. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and Cory Booker of New Jersey.

https://apnews.com/5ed6605da2a149618d6ecd1a4b0f3da2

He's not a bad guy actually, but the world is not going to take a gay president seriously......especiall y a married one with a "First Manly" staying in the WH master suite with him.

I've already seen clips on YT where they are going around asking about candidates, and just like with Obama people are saying "it's time for a female president" or "it's time for a gay president"  That's not how you decide things.  Obama should have taught people a lesson that you don't vote when "it's time", you vote when it's the right person at the right time.  He's not the right person due to his policies, and it's not the right time when it comes to Putin, China, Pocket Rocket Boy, and Iran/the middle east in general.  The respect for our nation abroad would plummet.  Sure France would jump with joy, but who the fuck cares...they're an ally, our bitch, and not a threat in any way if those things ever changed.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on April 15, 2019, 09:15:52 AM
I think they are really going to try to push this guy. Ultimately Trump would wreck him though.


‘Mayor Pete’ joins 2020 Dem race as face of new generation

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SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) — Pete Buttigieg, the little-known Indiana mayor who has risen to prominence in the early stages of the 2020 Democratic presidential race, made his official campaign entrance Sunday by claiming the mantle of a youthful generation ready to reshape the country.

“I recognize the audacity of doing this as a Midwestern millennial mayor,” he said to cheers of “Pete, Pete, Pete” from an audience assembled in a former Studebaker auto plant. “More than a little bold, at age 37, to seek the highest office in the land.”


The South Bend mayor, a Rhodes scholar and Afghanistan War veteran who has been essentially campaigning since January, has joined a dozen-plus rivals vying to take on President Donald Trump.

“The forces of change in our country today are tectonic,” he said. “Forces that help to explain what made this current presidency even possible. That’s why, this time, it’s not just about winning an election — it’s about winning an era.”

Buttigieg will return this week to Iowa and New Hampshire, which hold the nation’s first nominating contests, to campaign as a full-fledged candidate now being taken more seriously.

Over the past few months, Buttigieg has appeared frequently on national TV news and talk shows and developed a strong social media following with his message that the country needs “a new generation of leadership.”

Buttigieg’s poll numbers have climbed. Some polls put him behind only Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who sought the party’s nomination in 2016, and former Vice President Joe Biden, who has not yet said he’s running.

Buttigieg’s campaign has raised more than $7 million in the first three months of this year, a total eclipsed by Sanders’ leading $18 million but more than Sens. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and Cory Booker of New Jersey.

https://apnews.com/5ed6605da2a149618d6ecd1a4b0f3da2

I can see it Now Pete ButtPlug plastered everywhere 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 15, 2019, 09:01:00 PM
I think they are really going to try to push this guy. Ultimately Trump would wreck him though.


‘Mayor Pete’ joins 2020 Dem race as face of new generation

(https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/media:fce9b8a35bfd45efbbfb31baedbfd2f4/2000.jpeg)

SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) — Pete Buttigieg, the little-known Indiana mayor who has risen to prominence in the early stages of the 2020 Democratic presidential race, made his official campaign entrance Sunday by claiming the mantle of a youthful generation ready to reshape the country.

“I recognize the audacity of doing this as a Midwestern millennial mayor,” he said to cheers of “Pete, Pete, Pete” from an audience assembled in a former Studebaker auto plant. “More than a little bold, at age 37, to seek the highest office in the land.”


The South Bend mayor, a Rhodes scholar and Afghanistan War veteran who has been essentially campaigning since January, has joined a dozen-plus rivals vying to take on President Donald Trump.

“The forces of change in our country today are tectonic,” he said. “Forces that help to explain what made this current presidency even possible. That’s why, this time, it’s not just about winning an election — it’s about winning an era.”

Buttigieg will return this week to Iowa and New Hampshire, which hold the nation’s first nominating contests, to campaign as a full-fledged candidate now being taken more seriously.

Over the past few months, Buttigieg has appeared frequently on national TV news and talk shows and developed a strong social media following with his message that the country needs “a new generation of leadership.”

Buttigieg’s poll numbers have climbed. Some polls put him behind only Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who sought the party’s nomination in 2016, and former Vice President Joe Biden, who has not yet said he’s running.

Buttigieg’s campaign has raised more than $7 million in the first three months of this year, a total eclipsed by Sanders’ leading $18 million but more than Sens. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and Cory Booker of New Jersey.

https://apnews.com/5ed6605da2a149618d6ecd1a4b0f3da2

They who? The party's choice for a democratic candidate will be whoever has the best chance of winning the election.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 16, 2019, 12:03:37 AM
They who? The party's choice for a democratic candidate will be whoever has the best chance of winning the election.

lol
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 16, 2019, 02:53:05 PM
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez isn’t excited by a Biden run

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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who worked as an organizer for Sen. Bernie Sanders’ 2016 presidential campaign, said she’s not hot on former Vice President Joe Biden running for the White House but acknowledged she would back whoever the Democrats nominate.

“That does not particularly animate me right now,” the New York Democrat told Yahoo News’ “Skullduggery” podcast on Sunday, referring to a Biden bid.

“I can understand why people would be excited by that, this idea that we can go back to the good old days with [former President] Obama, with Obama’s vice president,” she said.

“There’s an emotional element to that, but I don’t want to go back. I want to go forward.”

Told that Biden, who has not formally announced a White House effort, is topping Democrat polls, she said, “I will support whoever the Democratic nominee is.”


The self-described Democratic socialist said she hasn’t picked a candidate to back in the 2020 election, although she mentioned fellow progressive Sanders and Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

“I’m very supportive of Bernie’s run. … I haven’t endorsed anybody, but I’m very supportive of Bernie,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “I also think what Elizabeth Warren has been bringing to the table is … truly remarkable, truly remarkable and transformational.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/04/15/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-isnt-excited-by-a-biden-run/amp/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 16, 2019, 03:02:15 PM
I’m excited by her tits in that pic
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 17, 2019, 04:47:01 PM
Bernie Sanders And Beto O’Rourke Give Almost Nothing To Charity
Bernie Sanders (who is now a millionaire) and his wife gave 3.4 percent of their income to charity. Beto O'Rourke and his wife gave less than 1 percent.
Liz Wolfe By Liz Wolfe
APRIL 16, 2019

Last night, The Washington Post reported that Beto O’Rourke released his tax returns for the past ten years. Of course, the feel-good, inevitably government-expanding presidential contender should probably have been more hesitant to release his returns because it doesn’t take much sleuthing to figure out from them that the O’Rourkes made $370,412 in 2017 while giving a measly $1,166 of that income to charity. As The Post noted, this makes Beto’s charitable giving less than one-third of 1 percent of his household income.

Other candidates who claim conservatives are the true greedy ones and deserve to be smited for their fiscal sins don’t stack up much better. Bernie Sanders and his wife gave roughly 3 percent of their astonishingly large $566,000 income to charity in 2017. Interestingly, Sanders recently talked about his impressive sum of book earnings, and Reason’s Peter Suderman pointed out that the socialist is indeed a millionaire:

I think it’s genuinely great that Bernie Sanders is a millionaire, and that in becoming a millionaire, our nation’s most well-known democratic socialist politician has, however inadvertently, started defending one of the core tenets of capitalism—that if you come up with an idea for a product, make that product a reality in the world, and sell it to lots of willing buyers, it’s perfectly just and reasonable for you to earn a lot of money as a result.

He’s exactly right. None of these impressively wealthy Democratic presidential contenders should be scorned for making heaps, providing it’s from creating value that people want to benefit from.

Kamala Harris (and her husband) made nearly $2 million in 2018, giving 1.4 percent to charity (which totals out to about $27,000); Elizabeth Warren (and her husband) made just shy of $1 million (donating an improved 5.5 percent to charity in 2018). They should, however, be thoroughly criticized for demonizing millionaires and billionaires, branding them the no good, very bad, super icky ultra-wealthy, when they are some of the wealthiest people in America.

Of course, many super-wealthy people don’t think of themselves that way. A YouGov poll from earlier this year found that almost 90 percent of respondents who make $90,000 or more annually consider themselves neither rich nor poor. There’s nothing wrong with abundance, but it is odd that people would be not more self-aware about where they stand compared to the groups many routinely demonize.

Charitable giving should transcend political affiliation. It would be bad for our broader societal health if generosity were grossly weaponized to score political points, because then giving becomes more of a manipulative political ploy than it already is (to recipients, the intention behind giving probably doesn’t make a difference).

There’s something to be said for giving credit where due and recognizing when our political opponents do genuine good. Still, Arthur Brooks wrote on broader charitable giving habits in his 2015 book “The Conservative Heart,” noting:

Households headed by a ‘conservative’ give, on average, 30 percent more dollars to charity than households headed by a ‘liberal.’ This discrepancy is not an artifact of income differences. On the contrary, the average liberal family earns an average of 6 percent more per year than the average conservative family, yet still gives less away.

Later on, he notes that there’s a collective action problem as well:

Consider that the total that Americans give annually to human service organizations to assist the vulnerable comes to about $40 billion. Now suppose that we could spread that sum across the 46.5 million Americans receiving food assistance, with zero overhead and complete effectiveness. It would come to just $860 per person per year.

As much as it fits a convenient narrative, it’s awfully weaselly for liberals with political aspirations to claim conservatives are the stingy ones when those same liberals give miserly amounts of money to the people they purportedly care about.

The Betos and Bernies of the world would probably counter that by saying: 1) poverty is a collective action problem that can only be solved by taxing everybody (one person can only make a tiny dent, so why bother?), 2) the ultra-ultra-rich deserve to be taxed (like, the Koch brothers. Not normal millionaires! Extra big millionaires! Billionaires! Those ones! Trump!), or 3) really this wealth should be harnessed via taxes that way nobody can be exempt. The fact that some can accumulate so much means our system must be fixed (by them—supposedly disinterested third parties).

These points are varying degrees of wrong. 1) Lack of adequate provisions for the poor is absolutely a collective action problem. But it is also one that would probably be helped, on some level, with an extra $300,000 from the Sanders family if they would spare it.

2) If the ultra-rich were the only ones taxed, even if taxed at an insanely high rate, the additional revenue generated would not be enough to cover the hefty price tag of the various social programs that progressives want to institute. There simply aren’t anywhere close to enough Koch-level people in this country. We would also probably have a hard time safeguarding against capital flight, as any sane wealthy person would be wise to get his or her money out of the country as quick as possible.

3) The idea that progressive politicians, people who are emblematic of this very problem, would be God’s gift to man, able to fix poverty and wealth inequality despite being wealth-hoarders themselves is completely goofy. People like Sanders and O’Rourke would have more credibility if they didn’t engage in such hypocritical practices, condemning the big, bad rich people whose greed they want to harness for their own allegedly benevolent bidding.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/16/bernie-sanders-beto-orourke-give-almost-nothing-charity/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 17, 2019, 09:46:55 PM
No kidding.  They are cheap liberals


Bernie Sanders And Beto O’Rourke Give Almost Nothing To Charity
Bernie Sanders (who is now a millionaire) and his wife gave 3.4 percent of their income to charity. Beto O'Rourke and his wife gave less than 1 percent.
Liz Wolfe By Liz Wolfe
APRIL 16, 2019

Last night, The Washington Post reported that Beto O’Rourke released his tax returns for the past ten years. Of course, the feel-good, inevitably government-expanding presidential contender should probably have been more hesitant to release his returns because it doesn’t take much sleuthing to figure out from them that the O’Rourkes made $370,412 in 2017 while giving a measly $1,166 of that income to charity. As The Post noted, this makes Beto’s charitable giving less than one-third of 1 percent of his household income.

Other candidates who claim conservatives are the true greedy ones and deserve to be smited for their fiscal sins don’t stack up much better. Bernie Sanders and his wife gave roughly 3 percent of their astonishingly large $566,000 income to charity in 2017. Interestingly, Sanders recently talked about his impressive sum of book earnings, and Reason’s Peter Suderman pointed out that the socialist is indeed a millionaire:

I think it’s genuinely great that Bernie Sanders is a millionaire, and that in becoming a millionaire, our nation’s most well-known democratic socialist politician has, however inadvertently, started defending one of the core tenets of capitalism—that if you come up with an idea for a product, make that product a reality in the world, and sell it to lots of willing buyers, it’s perfectly just and reasonable for you to earn a lot of money as a result.

He’s exactly right. None of these impressively wealthy Democratic presidential contenders should be scorned for making heaps, providing it’s from creating value that people want to benefit from.

Kamala Harris (and her husband) made nearly $2 million in 2018, giving 1.4 percent to charity (which totals out to about $27,000); Elizabeth Warren (and her husband) made just shy of $1 million (donating an improved 5.5 percent to charity in 2018). They should, however, be thoroughly criticized for demonizing millionaires and billionaires, branding them the no good, very bad, super icky ultra-wealthy, when they are some of the wealthiest people in America.

Of course, many super-wealthy people don’t think of themselves that way. A YouGov poll from earlier this year found that almost 90 percent of respondents who make $90,000 or more annually consider themselves neither rich nor poor. There’s nothing wrong with abundance, but it is odd that people would be not more self-aware about where they stand compared to the groups many routinely demonize.

Charitable giving should transcend political affiliation. It would be bad for our broader societal health if generosity were grossly weaponized to score political points, because then giving becomes more of a manipulative political ploy than it already is (to recipients, the intention behind giving probably doesn’t make a difference).

There’s something to be said for giving credit where due and recognizing when our political opponents do genuine good. Still, Arthur Brooks wrote on broader charitable giving habits in his 2015 book “The Conservative Heart,” noting:

Households headed by a ‘conservative’ give, on average, 30 percent more dollars to charity than households headed by a ‘liberal.’ This discrepancy is not an artifact of income differences. On the contrary, the average liberal family earns an average of 6 percent more per year than the average conservative family, yet still gives less away.

Later on, he notes that there’s a collective action problem as well:

Consider that the total that Americans give annually to human service organizations to assist the vulnerable comes to about $40 billion. Now suppose that we could spread that sum across the 46.5 million Americans receiving food assistance, with zero overhead and complete effectiveness. It would come to just $860 per person per year.

As much as it fits a convenient narrative, it’s awfully weaselly for liberals with political aspirations to claim conservatives are the stingy ones when those same liberals give miserly amounts of money to the people they purportedly care about.

The Betos and Bernies of the world would probably counter that by saying: 1) poverty is a collective action problem that can only be solved by taxing everybody (one person can only make a tiny dent, so why bother?), 2) the ultra-ultra-rich deserve to be taxed (like, the Koch brothers. Not normal millionaires! Extra big millionaires! Billionaires! Those ones! Trump!), or 3) really this wealth should be harnessed via taxes that way nobody can be exempt. The fact that some can accumulate so much means our system must be fixed (by them—supposedly disinterested third parties).

These points are varying degrees of wrong. 1) Lack of adequate provisions for the poor is absolutely a collective action problem. But it is also one that would probably be helped, on some level, with an extra $300,000 from the Sanders family if they would spare it.

2) If the ultra-rich were the only ones taxed, even if taxed at an insanely high rate, the additional revenue generated would not be enough to cover the hefty price tag of the various social programs that progressives want to institute. There simply aren’t anywhere close to enough Koch-level people in this country. We would also probably have a hard time safeguarding against capital flight, as any sane wealthy person would be wise to get his or her money out of the country as quick as possible.

3) The idea that progressive politicians, people who are emblematic of this very problem, would be God’s gift to man, able to fix poverty and wealth inequality despite being wealth-hoarders themselves is completely goofy. People like Sanders and O’Rourke would have more credibility if they didn’t engage in such hypocritical practices, condemning the big, bad rich people whose greed they want to harness for their own allegedly benevolent bidding.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/16/bernie-sanders-beto-orourke-give-almost-nothing-charity/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 17, 2019, 11:48:58 PM

Bernie Sanders And Beto O’Rourke Give Almost Nothing To Charity

The good news is that it is fairly unlikely they are artificially inflating their charitable deduction amount. Of course, we have no idea what Trump gave to charity, because he refuses to release his tax returns. It's probably a good idea to have all the details before making these types of comparisons.  ;)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on April 18, 2019, 12:59:58 AM
The good news is that it is fairly unlikely they are artificially inflating their charitable deduction amount. Of course, we have no idea what Trump gave to charity, because he refuses to release his tax returns. It's probably a good idea to have all the details before making these types of comparisons.  ;)

Not on getbig and not with this crowd. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on April 18, 2019, 06:06:41 PM
Personally, I don't care what any of them have done with their personal finances. HOW they got their millions would be more of a concern for me.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: mazrim on April 18, 2019, 06:19:09 PM
The good news is that it is fairly unlikely they are artificially inflating their charitable deduction amount. Of course, we have no idea what Trump gave to charity, because he refuses to release his tax returns. It's probably a good idea to have all the details before making these types of comparisons.  ;)
What does this have to do with Trump? The comparison is being made to their own words/standards/desires of other people and those of a more conservative viewpoint.

Probably should read the article before making these types of comparisons since you are the only one who is attempting to make that comparison.

You appear to be missing quite a few details on the majority of your posts....
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 19, 2019, 12:31:30 AM
The good news is that it is fairly unlikely they are artificially inflating their charitable deduction amount. Of course, we have no idea what Trump gave to charity, because he refuses to release his tax returns. It's probably a good idea to have all the details before making these types of comparisons.  ;)

Seriously?  There is no way to spin donating 1 percent to charity when your entire mantra is about class warfare.  Bernie is a monstrous hypocrite. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 20, 2019, 11:43:32 PM
Seriously?  There is no way to spin donating 1 percent to charity when your entire mantra is about class warfare.  Bernie is a monstrous hypocrite. 

You have not answered the question regarding what percentage of his income Trump gives to charity. If what one candidate donates to charity considered relevant to their candidacy, then what every candidate gives to charity should be reviewed.

Personally, what any candidates gives is not an issue I considered particularly important. What I do believe is relevant, is them lying about it.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on April 21, 2019, 04:19:59 AM
You have not answered the question regarding what percentage of his income Trump gives to charity. If what one candidate donates to charity considered relevant to their candidacy, then what every candidate gives to charity should be reviewed.

Personally, what any candidates gives is not an issue I considered particularly important. What I do believe is relevant, is them lying about it.

Cuckled americans have no need to know President Trumps income nor his charitable contributions.  They do however want to know.  Why?

Because they are jealous and bitter.  Cucks desire, no...theY DEMAND equality but only with those that they consider their superiors. 

It's the same with these cuck legislators.  Scum.  I hope Portland turns into a haven for shitizens and they crap all over cuck yards despite cucks having paid an additional tax to house their worthless, soulless shells.  Next up for Portland.  Needles.

And none of them are in a haystack.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 22, 2019, 12:01:13 AM
Cuckled americans have no need to know President Trumps income nor his charitable contributions.  They do however want to know.  Why?

Because they are jealous and bitter.  Cucks desire, no...theY DEMAND equality but only with those that they consider their superiors. 

It's the same with these cuck legislators.  Scum.  I hope Portland turns into a haven for shitizens and they crap all over cuck yards despite cucks having paid an additional tax to house their worthless, soulless shells.  Next up for Portland.  Needles.

And none of them are in a haystack.

Portland ranked as one of the best places to live in U.S. FOX News 12, April 12, 2018

"Portland was the only U.S. city to rank on Monocle’s 2015 Quality-of-Life survey, a list of the 25 best cities in the world to live in. Monocle, a London-based lifestyle and culture magazine, ranked Portland as having the 25th best quality-of-life, a higher ranking than any other U.S. city, East Coast or West."

U.S. News analyzed 125 metro areas in the United States to find the best places to live based on quality of life and the job market in each metro area, as well as the value of living there and people's desire to live there.

Portland, Oregon is ranked:

 #8 in Best Places to Live

 #20 in Best Places to Retire

"Portland Ranked
#6 Safest Cities for Families with Young Children"
 Sperling’s BestPlaces

Portland Ranked 6th Best Place To Live In US: Report | Portland, OR ...
https://patch.com/oregon/portland/portland-ranked-6th-best-place-live-us-report
Apr 10, 2018 - By Travis Loose, Patch Staff | Apr 10, 2018 1:45 pm ET ... PORTLAND, OR — Affordability, the availability of jobs and quality of life are all ... U.S. News & World Report's 2018 Best Places to Live in the United States shows ...

I could post tons more accolades about the quality of life in Portland, OR, but the above should give you a pretty clear picture of where Portland stands.

Please explain what you think anyone would have to be jealous of regarding Trump, thanks.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on April 22, 2019, 04:55:42 AM
Portland ranked as one of the best places to live in U.S. FOX News 12, April 12, 2018

"Portland was the only U.S. city to rank on Monocle’s 2015 Quality-of-Life survey, a list of the 25 best cities in the world to live in. Monocle, a London-based lifestyle and culture magazine, ranked Portland as having the 25th best quality-of-life, a higher ranking than any other U.S. city, East Coast or West."

U.S. News analyzed 125 metro areas in the United States to find the best places to live based on quality of life and the job market in each metro area, as well as the value of living there and people's desire to live there.

Portland, Oregon is ranked:

 #8 in Best Places to Live

 #20 in Best Places to Retire

"Portland Ranked
#6 Safest Cities for Families with Young Children"
 Sperling’s BestPlaces

Portland Ranked 6th Best Place To Live In US: Report | Portland, OR ...
https://patch.com/oregon/portland/portland-ranked-6th-best-place-live-us-report
Apr 10, 2018 - By Travis Loose, Patch Staff | Apr 10, 2018 1:45 pm ET ... PORTLAND, OR — Affordability, the availability of jobs and quality of life are all ... U.S. News & World Report's 2018 Best Places to Live in the United States shows ...

I could post tons more accolades about the quality of life in Portland, OR, but the above should give you a pretty clear picture of where Portland stands.

Please explain what you think anyone would have to be jealous of regarding Trump, thanks.


This is like watching the Oscars where morons give themselves awards for pretending to be someone else.
Allow me, little one:

Portland is loaded with cuckold liberals. 

Easy peesy mac 'n' cheesy. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Powerlift66 on April 22, 2019, 05:36:03 AM
Portland  ::)

Horribly filled w/ tons of thug-like protesters. Retarded place to live.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on April 22, 2019, 05:44:30 PM
Portland ranked as one of the best places to live in U.S. FOX News 12, April 12, 2018

"Portland was the only U.S. city to rank on Monocle’s 2015 Quality-of-Life survey, a list of the 25 best cities in the world to live in. Monocle, a London-based lifestyle and culture magazine, ranked Portland as having the 25th best quality-of-life, a higher ranking than any other U.S. city, East Coast or West."

U.S. News analyzed 125 metro areas in the United States to find the best places to live based on quality of life and the job market in each metro area, as well as the value of living there and people's desire to live there.

Portland, Oregon is ranked:

 #8 in Best Places to Live

 #20 in Best Places to Retire

"Portland Ranked
#6 Safest Cities for Families with Young Children"
 Sperling’s BestPlaces

Portland Ranked 6th Best Place To Live In US: Report | Portland, OR ...
https://patch.com/oregon/portland/portland-ranked-6th-best-place-live-us-report
Apr 10, 2018 - By Travis Loose, Patch Staff | Apr 10, 2018 1:45 pm ET ... PORTLAND, OR — Affordability, the availability of jobs and quality of life are all ... U.S. News & World Report's 2018 Best Places to Live in the United States shows ...

I could post tons more accolades about the quality of life in Portland, OR, but the above should give you a pretty clear picture of where Portland stands.

Please explain what you think anyone would have to be jealous of regarding Trump, thanks.

So tell us again how you could possibly understand what it's like to have illegal immigrants chasing your truck around the parking lot at Home Depot or the homeless shitting in your streets and leaving their needles everywhere like San Francisco?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 23, 2019, 07:03:45 AM
Elizabeth Warren: Let's Cancel Student Loan Debt And Make College Free

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student loan debt. Today, according to personal finance site Make Lemonade, student loan debt is now the second highest consumer debt category – second only to mortgages and higher than credit card debt and auto loans. By 2023, 40% of student loan borrowers may default on their student loans.


Specifically, Warren’s plan for student loan debt forgiveness would:

Cancel $50,000 in student loan debt for every person with household income under $100,000.
Provide substantial debt cancellation for every person with household income between $100,000 and $250,000.
Not tax as income student loan debt that has been cancelled.
Also make private student loan debt eligible for cancellation.
Streamline the student loan debt forgiveness process using data and income information already available to the federal government.

Importantly, Warren’s plan offers no student loan debt cancellation to borrowers with a household income above $250,000, which she says is the Top 5% of earners. There would also be “phase-outs” based on income. The $50,000 cancellation amount would phase out by $1 for every $3 in income above $100,000. According to Warren, for example, “a person with household income of $130,000 gets $40,000 in cancellation, while a person with household income of $160,000 gets $30,000 in cancellation.”

Proposal: Make College Tuition-Free

Specifically, Warren’s plan for  universal free college would: “Give every American the opportunity to attend a two-year or four-year public college without paying a dime in tuition or fees.” Warren proposes that the federal government and states split the cost of tuition and fees, without impact to “need-based financial aid or academic instruction.”

“Student loan debt is crushing millions of families,” Warren tweeted. “That’s why I’m calling for something truly transformational: Universal free college and the cancellation of debt for more than 95% of Americans with student loan debt.” In a separate tweet, Warren wrote: “This is the kind of big, structural change we need to make sure our kids have opportunity in this country.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2019/04/22/student-loan-forgiveness-elizabeth-warren/amp/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2019, 02:11:27 PM
I'm glad that some of you think Portland is not all that great.  Many others apparently disagree. Many of of these folks move to the Portland Metro area each year. However, as the cost of living has increased, population growth here is slower. The metro area grew by just over 30,000 residents in the year that ended July 1, according to the Census Bureau. That's a population increase of about 1.2 percent, or 578 people a week -- the region's slowest growth since 2013.

BTW, I am not currently a Portland resident, nor have I been since 1985. To be honest, I don't give a rip what you think about the quality of life in Portland.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2019, 07:26:32 AM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/46347/bernie-burned-even-cher-thinks-prisoners-voting-paul-bois

Stick a fork in bernie.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2019, 01:44:07 PM
Kamala Harris backs putting third gender option on federal ID
The Hills ^ | - 04/23/19 04:57 PM EDT | TAL AXELROD
Posted on 4/23/2019, 6:18:04 PM

Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Kamala Harris said she supports having a third gender option on federal ID forms as she continues to campaign heavily on social justice issues.

The California Democrat was asked about the issue during an event at Keene State College in New Hampshire on Tuesday. “Sure,” she replied, according to multiple media reports.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on April 24, 2019, 02:17:03 PM
Kamala Harris backs putting third gender option on federal ID
The Hills ^ | - 04/23/19 04:57 PM EDT | TAL AXELROD
Posted on 4/23/2019, 6:18:04 PM

Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Kamala Harris said she supports having a third gender option on federal ID forms as she continues to campaign heavily on social justice issues.

The California Democrat was asked about the issue during an event at Keene State College in New Hampshire on Tuesday. “Sure,” she replied, according to multiple media reports.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...

Yes & I support Stoning for idiotic Liberal Twats like Her.
 ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on April 24, 2019, 04:25:41 PM
Kamala Harris backs putting third gender option on federal ID
The Hills ^ | - 04/23/19 04:57 PM EDT | TAL AXELROD
Posted on 4/23/2019, 6:18:04 PM

Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Kamala Harris said she supports having a third gender option on federal ID forms as she continues to campaign heavily on social justice issues.

The California Democrat was asked about the issue during an event at Keene State College in New Hampshire on Tuesday. “Sure,” she replied, according to multiple media reports.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
This dumb cunt said she'd revoke the 2nd in her first 100 days. You want to start a civil war?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 25, 2019, 10:40:22 AM
Biden launches 2020 bid warning ‘soul’ of America at stake
By STEVE PEOPLES and THOMAS BEAUMONT

Former Vice President and Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden arrives at the Wilmington train station Thursday April 25, 2019 in Wilmington, Delaware. Biden announced his candidacy for president via video on Thursday morning. (AP Photo/Matt Slocum)
WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Vice President Joe Biden formally joined the crowded Democratic presidential contest on Thursday, declaring the “soul of this nation” at stake if President Donald Trump wins re-election.

In a video posted on Twitter , Biden focused on the 2017 deadly clash between white supremacists and counter protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia. Biden noted Trump’s comments that there were some “very fine people” on both sides of the violent encounter, which left one woman dead.

“We are in the battle for the soul of this nation,” Biden said. “If we give Donald Trump eight years in the White House, he will forever and fundamentally alter the character of this nation — who we are. And I cannot stand by and watch that happen.”

The 76-year-old Biden becomes an instant front-runner alongside Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who is leading many polls and has proved to be a successful fundraiser . Biden has legislative and international experience that is unmatched in the Democratic field , and he is among the best-known faces in U.S. politics.

Hours after former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden launched his presidential bid he briefly spoke to reporters at Wilmington's Amtrak station.

He quickly racked up endorsements on Thursday morning, becoming the first Democrat running for president with the backing of more than one U.S. senator.

Still, Biden must compete in a field that now spans at least 20 Democrats and has been celebrated for its racial and gender diversity. As an older white man with occasionally centrist views, Biden has to prove he’s not out of step with his party. He’s yet to outline his positions on the issues defining the 2020 Democratic primary, most notably “Medicare for All,” the universal health care plan authored by Sanders that has been adopted by virtually the entire Democratic field.

His critics in both major political parties were also quick to pounce.

“The old guard of the Democratic Party failed to stop Trump, and they can’t be counted on to lead the fight against his divide-and-conquer politics today,” the liberal group Justice Democrats tweeted. “The party needs new leadership with a bold vision capable of energizing voters in the Democratic base who stayed home in 2016.”

Biden, a native of Scranton, Pennsylvania, is betting that his working class appeal and ties to Barack Obama’s presidency will help him win over such skeptics. Obama has declined to endorse Biden, however, and several former Obama aides are now working for other candidates.

“I asked President Obama not to endorse,” Biden told reporters as he arrived in Delaware Thursday. “Whoever wins this nomination should win it on their own merits.”

While he hasn’t endorsed anyone in the crowded field, Obama took the unusual step of weighing in on Thursday’s announcement.

“President Obama has long said that selecting Joe Biden as his running mate in 2008 was one of the best decisions he ever made,” Obama spokeswoman Katie Hill said. “He relied on the vice president’s knowledge, insight, and judgment throughout both campaigns and the entire presidency. The two forged a special bond over the last 10 years and remain close today.”

Trump welcomed Biden to the campaign in a tweet calling him “Sleepy Joe.”

“I only hope you have the intelligence, long in doubt, to wage a successful primary campaign,” Trump said. “It will be nasty - you will be dealing with people who truly have some very sick & demented ideas. But if you make it, I will see you at the Starting Gate.”

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Privately, Trump allies have warned that Biden might be the biggest re-election threat given the former vice president’s potential appeal among the white working class in the Midwest, the region that gave Trump a path to the presidency.

Biden is paying special attention to his native Pennsylvania, a state that swung to Trump in 2016 after voting for Democratic presidential candidates for decades. While Biden represented Delaware in the Senate for 36 years, he was often referred to as Pennsylvania’s third senator.

The former vice president will be in the state three times within the opening weeks of his campaign. He’ll be in Philadelphia on Thursday evening headlining a fundraiser at the home of David L. Cohen, executive senior vice president of Comcast. Biden is aiming to raise $500,000 at the event.

He will hold his first public event as a 2020 presidential candidate in Pittsburgh on Monday. Then it’s off to Iowa, home of the leadoff nominating caucuses on Tuesday and Wednesday, followed by two days in South Carolina. He’ll visit the other two early-voting states, Nevada and New Hampshire, in early May, before holding a major rally in Philadelphia.

Biden’s first media appearance is set for Friday morning on ABC’s “The View,” a move that may help him make an appeal to women whose support will be crucial to winning the primary. He also hired Symone Sanders to serve as a senior strategist, tapping a prominent African American who previously worked for Biden’s chief competitor, Bernie Sanders, in the 2016 presidential contest.

As he neared his campaign launch, Biden’s challenges have come into greater focus.

He struggled last month to respond to claims that he touched 2014 Nevada lieutenant governor nominee Lucy Flores’ shoulders and kissed the back of her head before a fall campaign event. A handful of other women have made similar claims, though none has alleged sexual misconduct.

Biden, a former U.S. senator from Delaware, pledged in an online video to be “much more mindful” of respecting personal space but joked two days later that he “had permission” to hug a male union leader before addressing the group’s national conference.

Biden also has been repeatedly forced to explain his 1991 decision, as Senate Judiciary Committee chairman, to allow Anita Hill to face difficult questions from an all-male panel about allegations of sexual harassment against Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas, who later was confirmed to the high court.

He has since apologized for his role in the hearing. But in the #MeToo era, particularly after the contentious confirmation of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, the episode remains a significant political liability.

Likewise, Biden once played a key role in anti-crime legislation that had a disproportionately negative impact on African Americans. And while several 2020 Democratic contenders have embraced the possibility of reparations to African Americans for slavery in recent weeks, Biden last month struggled to explain comments he made as a freshman senator in 1975 about the school busing debate.

His first White House bid in 1988 ended after a plagiarism scandal. He dropped out of the 2008 race after earning less than 1% of the vote in the Iowa caucuses. Later that year, Obama named Biden as his running mate.

Boyd Brown, a prominent South Carolina Democrat backing Beto O’Rourke, said Biden’s opening salvo stands out.

“This is very strong out of the chute. Well done. Biden just sucked the wind out of the sails for much of the field,” he said.

But he noted that announcement bumps fade and said Biden still has “to campaign the same aggressive way for the next nine months.”

https://www.apnews.com/d5c415b99a6945dbbecf60d57bcf68cb
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Board_SHERIF on April 25, 2019, 10:44:10 AM
this POS commenting on the "Soul" of the USA ? behind the scenes he conspired and duped the nation for his Gay Muslim Clown.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 25, 2019, 11:37:00 AM
He looks like a corpse.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on May 03, 2019, 04:04:46 AM
Reporter: Biden Campaign Physically Blocking Press from Asking Questions

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A freelance reporter covering Joe Biden's presidential campaign launch says the campaign has gotten physical in its attempts to block the press from questioning the former vice president.

Marcus DiPaola, a videographer who was on the trail with Biden Wednesday night in Iowa, used his Twitter account to voice complaints from multiple members of the press regarding poor treatment from campaign staff, which was reportedly blocking reporters from asking questions and taking photographs of anyone who objected.

"A reporter approached @JoeBiden to ask a question and a member of his staff told the reporter to leave, and when the reporter explained that they were just doing their job, the staffer said she was too," DiPaola wrote. "The staffer then took a photo of the reporter."

His initial tweet was followed by other similar anecdotes from the trail.

"A different reporter just told me that yesterday a staff member physically put their body between the reporter and @JoeBiden," he wrote. "The reporter said they weren't even that close and that there were several supporters between the reporter and Biden."

"This second reporter tells me the staffer physically invaded their space to the point that the reporter could smell the staffer's ponytail."

"THIRD reporter just told me that a staff member physically put their body between @JoeBiden and the reporter, moments ago at this rally in Des Moines," he wrote. "This third reporter just told me that the @JoeBiden staffer blocked his camera shot by putting up her hands."

DiPaola said reporters were unwilling to put their names to complaints, fearing it would jeopardize their ability to cover the campaign effectively in the future.

Eventually, the treatment from the campaign impacted DiPaola himself as he was trying to capture video of Biden leaving the event.

The campaign attempted to "remove" the press from a public lot and told reporters they would not be allowed to ask questions, according to DiPaola. It then moved the location of Biden's motorcade numerous times and sent Biden through a Jimmy Johns in its attempt to avoid questions, but was ultimately unsuccessful.

DiPaola was able to capture video, available on Getty Images, of Biden saying he thinks Attorney General William Barr should resign.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/reporter-biden-campaign-physically-blocking-press-from-asking-questions/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on May 03, 2019, 02:34:06 PM
Still sounds kind of iffy to me.

De Blasio expected to announce 2020 presidential run next week: sources

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Mayor de Blasio is expected to announce he’s running for president next week, according to four sources with knowledge of the plans.

The 2020 announcement could come as early as de Blasio’s birthday on Wednesday, when he’ll turn 58, two sources said. The kickoff was initially expected this week but pushed back, according to another source.

De Blasio’s federal political action committee, Fairness PAC, recently polled Iowa voters. The PAC also bankrolled the mayor’s recent travel to key early voting primary states, including trips to Nevada, Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Fairness PAC spokesman Mike Casca — who took an unpaid leave of absence from City Hall last month to work for the committee – said “no decision” has been made yet and wouldn’t explicitly deny that de Blasio was announcing a campaign next week.

 
“Very hard to announce something without a decision – nearly impossible, some might say,” Casca said in a text message on Friday.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-de-blasio-2020-president-white-house-campaign-announcement-20190503-xsjuocb7zfhqxhh5vmoi3dup5q-story.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on May 03, 2019, 02:38:15 PM
Still sounds kind of iffy to me.

De Blasio expected to announce 2020 presidential run next week: sources

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Mayor de Blasio is expected to announce he’s running for president next week, according to four sources with knowledge of the plans.

The 2020 announcement could come as early as de Blasio’s birthday on Wednesday, when he’ll turn 58, two sources said. The kickoff was initially expected this week but pushed back, according to another source.

De Blasio’s federal political action committee, Fairness PAC, recently polled Iowa voters. The PAC also bankrolled the mayor’s recent travel to key early voting primary states, including trips to Nevada, Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Fairness PAC spokesman Mike Casca — who took an unpaid leave of absence from City Hall last month to work for the committee – said “no decision” has been made yet and wouldn’t explicitly deny that de Blasio was announcing a campaign next week.

 
“Very hard to announce something without a decision – nearly impossible, some might say,” Casca said in a text message on Friday.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-de-blasio-2020-president-white-house-campaign-announcement-20190503-xsjuocb7zfhqxhh5vmoi3dup5q-story.html

This collection of candidates might be worse than the group that included Al Sharpton. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 04, 2019, 01:06:13 AM
This lineup makes Mondale look like a real winner in comparison. At the heart of the Dems weakness is not even the obvious benefits for votes tactics that a more right leaning person see as obvious cheap pandering, but the fact that they totally ignore and fix their own primaries against their own voters is what a moderate Dem is seeing now for the second time.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 09, 2019, 04:31:21 AM
Joe Biden: U.S. Has an ‘Obligation’ To Give Healthcare To Illegal Aliens
BorderPac ^ | 05-09-2019 | Brian Hayes
Posted on 05/08/2019 8:57:35 PM PDT by montag813



by Brian Hayes

Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden said during a campaign stop in California on Wednesday that the United States has an "obligation" to give healthcare to illegal aliens.

"I think that anyone who is in a situation where they're in need of healthcare, regardless of whether they are documented or undocumented, we have an obligation to see that they are cared for," Biden said in Los Angeles. "That's why I think we need more clinics around the country."

WATCH:



Biden may find his position won't do him any favors on the campaign trial.

That's because the American people overwhelmingly oppose benefits, and legal rights for illegal immigrants, according to a Rasmussen Poll released this week:

(Excerpt) Read more at borderpac.org ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on May 10, 2019, 06:22:18 AM
HILLARY HITS NEW HAMPSHIRE: Fresh off speaking tour, Clinton heads to first primary state

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Is Hillary Clinton running a non-campaign campaign for president?

The twice-failed Democrat presidential candidate isn’t interested in discussing an endorsement for 2020, and sources close to Clinton have repeatedly said she hasn’t closed the door on a rematch with President Trump.

Then on Wednesday, just days after wrapping up a national speaking tour with husband and former president Bill Clinton, Obama’s secretary of state headed to the first 2020 primary state of New Hampshire to lecture about her decades of experience in world affairs as a career politician.




Clinton boasted about her role in brokering the Iran Nuclear Deal to about 900 students and faculty at Dartmouth College in Hanover, and insinuated that President Trump is instigating a confrontation with the country, WFFF reports.

“I don’t think we can, unfortunately, rule that out,” she said. “And there is always, always the threat of miscalculation. Somebody makes a mistake. Somebody on our side, somebody on the Iranian side.”

Clinton’s comments follow decades of experience making a lot of mistakes and miscalculations during her tenure as a U.S. senator and secretary of state. Clinton voted for the Iraq War and pushed to overthrow governments friendly to the U.S., such as Egypt, which contributed to the rise of ISIS and increased conflicts in Iraq, Syria and other places.

She also helped negotiate military intervention in Libya that led to the assassination of Muammar Gaddafi and the country’s ruin at the hands of Islamic militants. There was also the murder of Americans including Ambassador Christopher Stevens on a U.S. Special Mission in Benghazi in 2012, and Clinton’s inability to prevent North Korea from developing nuclear weapons or Russia’s involvement in Ukraine, according to The National Interest.

But Clinton didn’t discuss her failures at Dartmouth, of course, focusing instead on her favorite topic of conversation: Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

“The idea that our election is being trifled with, being impacted, and maybe being determined by Putin … that should give us heartburn,” Clinton said.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/hillary-hits-new-hampshire-fresh-off-speaking-tour-clinton-heads-to-first-primary-state/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 13, 2019, 04:30:32 AM
https://news.yahoo.com/joe-biden-illegal-immigration-mexico-fence-205837908.html?ncid=facebook_yahoonewsf_akfmevaatca&fbclid=IwAR2ju22ICc53WpzlmFnxueVB6W8f7ZSgHwQFE7diiYfTEjRghtR1ihKnRn8



 :D  ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on May 13, 2019, 09:54:39 AM
HILLARY HITS NEW HAMPSHIRE: Fresh off speaking tour, Clinton heads to first primary state

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Is Hillary Clinton running a non-campaign campaign for president?

The twice-failed Democrat presidential candidate isn’t interested in discussing an endorsement for 2020, and sources close to Clinton have repeatedly said she hasn’t closed the door on a rematch with President Trump.

Then on Wednesday, just days after wrapping up a national speaking tour with husband and former president Bill Clinton, Obama’s secretary of state headed to the first 2020 primary state of New Hampshire to lecture about her decades of experience in world affairs as a career politician.




Clinton boasted about her role in brokering the Iran Nuclear Deal to about 900 students and faculty at Dartmouth College in Hanover, and insinuated that President Trump is instigating a confrontation with the country, WFFF reports.

“I don’t think we can, unfortunately, rule that out,” she said. “And there is always, always the threat of miscalculation. Somebody makes a mistake. Somebody on our side, somebody on the Iranian side.”

Clinton’s comments follow decades of experience making a lot of mistakes and miscalculations during her tenure as a U.S. senator and secretary of state. Clinton voted for the Iraq War and pushed to overthrow governments friendly to the U.S., such as Egypt, which contributed to the rise of ISIS and increased conflicts in Iraq, Syria and other places.

She also helped negotiate military intervention in Libya that led to the assassination of Muammar Gaddafi and the country’s ruin at the hands of Islamic militants. There was also the murder of Americans including Ambassador Christopher Stevens on a U.S. Special Mission in Benghazi in 2012, and Clinton’s inability to prevent North Korea from developing nuclear weapons or Russia’s involvement in Ukraine, according to The National Interest.

But Clinton didn’t discuss her failures at Dartmouth, of course, focusing instead on her favorite topic of conversation: Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

“The idea that our election is being trifled with, being impacted, and maybe being determined by Putin … that should give us heartburn,” Clinton said.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/hillary-hits-new-hampshire-fresh-off-speaking-tour-clinton-heads-to-first-primary-state/

Can someone please tell her to shut her pie hole? 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 13, 2019, 12:55:31 PM
Go hill go!!!

HILLARY HITS NEW HAMPSHIRE: Fresh off speaking tour, Clinton heads to first primary state

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Is Hillary Clinton running a non-campaign campaign for president?

The twice-failed Democrat presidential candidate isn’t interested in discussing an endorsement for 2020, and sources close to Clinton have repeatedly said she hasn’t closed the door on a rematch with President Trump.

Then on Wednesday, just days after wrapping up a national speaking tour with husband and former president Bill Clinton, Obama’s secretary of state headed to the first 2020 primary state of New Hampshire to lecture about her decades of experience in world affairs as a career politician.




Clinton boasted about her role in brokering the Iran Nuclear Deal to about 900 students and faculty at Dartmouth College in Hanover, and insinuated that President Trump is instigating a confrontation with the country, WFFF reports.

“I don’t think we can, unfortunately, rule that out,” she said. “And there is always, always the threat of miscalculation. Somebody makes a mistake. Somebody on our side, somebody on the Iranian side.”

Clinton’s comments follow decades of experience making a lot of mistakes and miscalculations during her tenure as a U.S. senator and secretary of state. Clinton voted for the Iraq War and pushed to overthrow governments friendly to the U.S., such as Egypt, which contributed to the rise of ISIS and increased conflicts in Iraq, Syria and other places.

She also helped negotiate military intervention in Libya that led to the assassination of Muammar Gaddafi and the country’s ruin at the hands of Islamic militants. There was also the murder of Americans including Ambassador Christopher Stevens on a U.S. Special Mission in Benghazi in 2012, and Clinton’s inability to prevent North Korea from developing nuclear weapons or Russia’s involvement in Ukraine, according to The National Interest.

But Clinton didn’t discuss her failures at Dartmouth, of course, focusing instead on her favorite topic of conversation: Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

“The idea that our election is being trifled with, being impacted, and maybe being determined by Putin … that should give us heartburn,” Clinton said.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/hillary-hits-new-hampshire-fresh-off-speaking-tour-clinton-heads-to-first-primary-state/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on May 14, 2019, 08:50:56 AM
Like most men, the Democratic party now has a butt and a wiener.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on May 14, 2019, 10:04:04 AM
Like most men, the Democratic party now has a butt and a wiener.

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lol   ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on May 14, 2019, 10:09:58 AM
Pocahontas never had a snowball's chance, but this is the nail in the coffin. 

Elizabeth Warren Turns Down Fox News Town Hall, Calling the Network a ‘Hate-for-Profit Racket’
The Democratic candidate said that she does not want to encourage additional ad dollars for the network.
Gideon Resnick
05.14.19
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REUTERS
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) is declining to participate in a Fox News town hall, a move that comes after a number of her fellow 2020 Democratic competitors have agreed to engage with the network’s audience.

“I love town halls. I’ve done more than 70 since January, and I’m glad to have a television audience be a part of them. Fox News has invited me to do a town hall, but I’m turning them down—here’s why,” she wrote Tuesday morning in a series of tweets. “Fox News is a hate-for-profit racket that gives a megaphone to racists and conspiracists—it’s designed to turn us against each other, risking life & death consequences, to provide cover for the corruption that’s rotting our government and hollowing out our middle class.”

Warren charged that the network “balances a mix of bigotry, racism, and outright lies with enough legit journalism to make the claim to advertisers that it’s a reputable news outlet.” She said that participation in a town hall on the network sends a signal that it is appropriate to still buy ads on the cable channel, which hosts a primetime lineup of overtly pro-Trump hosts who engage in bigoted and conspiratorial rhetoric—something she doesn’t want to encourage.

Elizabeth Warren

@ewarren
 · 1h
 I love town halls. I’ve done more than 70 since January, and I’m glad to have a television audience be a part of them. Fox News has invited me to do a town hall, but I’m turning them down—here’s why...

Elizabeth Warren

@ewarren
Fox News is a hate-for-profit racket that gives a megaphone to racists and conspiracists—it’s designed to turn us against each other, risking life and death consequences, to provide cover for the corruption that’s rotting our government and hollowing out our middle class.

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“A Democratic town hall gives the Fox News sales team a way to tell potential sponsors it’s safe to buy ads on Fox—no harm to their brand or reputation (spoiler: it’s not),” she said.

Throughout her time on the trail thus far, Warren noted that she has held town halls in 17 states and Puerto Rico, with press and voter questions at each.

“I’ve done 57 media avails and 131 interviews, taking over 1,100 questions from press just since January,” she said. “Fox News is welcome to come to my events just like any other outlet. But a Fox News town hall adds money to the hate-for-profit machine. To which I say: hard pass.”

In mid-April, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) participated in a Fox town hall in Pennsylvania, which was a ratings success and an opportunity to showcase how some of his staple issues like Medicare for All resonated with an audience in a state President Trump narrowly captured in 2016.

Following his appearance, a number of 2020 candidates eager for their own hour of free air time have been in talks with the network about doing their own town halls. Already Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) has been featured in one of her own, and Fox has scheduled events with South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY).

Democrats have been grappling with how to best handle the large audience Fox commands with some thinking it is essential to directly engage. In 2018, Warren appeared on the network three times, primarily to discuss legislative work and the introduction of new bills.

The Democratic National Committee banned Fox from hosting one of its primary debates—after a New Yorker article revealed the network’s cozy relationship with President Trump—but signaled early on that it was up to the individual campaigns as to how they wanted to execute their own media strategies. The view from Warren's camp is that all the campaigns will make their own choices on when and how to engage.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elizabeth-warren-turns-down-fox-news-town-hall-calling-the-network-a-hate-for-profit-racket/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on May 14, 2019, 12:46:27 PM
Like most men, the Democratic party now has a butt and a wiener.

(https://images.tmz.com/2019/05/10/0510-anthony-weiner-getty-4.jpg)

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on May 14, 2019, 02:19:01 PM
Pocahontas never had a snowball's chance, but this is the nail in the coffin. 

Elizabeth Warren Turns Down Fox News Town Hall, Calling the Network a ‘Hate-for-Profit Racket’
The Democratic candidate said that she does not want to encourage additional ad dollars for the network.
Gideon Resnick
05.14.19
(https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1968,w_3500,x_0,y_375/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_1044/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1557846537/RTX6OOC0_lmusc5)
REUTERS
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) is declining to participate in a Fox News town hall, a move that comes after a number of her fellow 2020 Democratic competitors have agreed to engage with the network’s audience.

“I love town halls. I’ve done more than 70 since January, and I’m glad to have a television audience be a part of them. Fox News has invited me to do a town hall, but I’m turning them down—here’s why,” she wrote Tuesday morning in a series of tweets. “Fox News is a hate-for-profit racket that gives a megaphone to racists and conspiracists—it’s designed to turn us against each other, risking life & death consequences, to provide cover for the corruption that’s rotting our government and hollowing out our middle class.”

Warren charged that the network “balances a mix of bigotry, racism, and outright lies with enough legit journalism to make the claim to advertisers that it’s a reputable news outlet.” She said that participation in a town hall on the network sends a signal that it is appropriate to still buy ads on the cable channel, which hosts a primetime lineup of overtly pro-Trump hosts who engage in bigoted and conspiratorial rhetoric—something she doesn’t want to encourage.

Elizabeth Warren

@ewarren
 · 1h
 I love town halls. I’ve done more than 70 since January, and I’m glad to have a television audience be a part of them. Fox News has invited me to do a town hall, but I’m turning them down—here’s why...

Elizabeth Warren

@ewarren
Fox News is a hate-for-profit racket that gives a megaphone to racists and conspiracists—it’s designed to turn us against each other, risking life and death consequences, to provide cover for the corruption that’s rotting our government and hollowing out our middle class.

22K
5:03 AM - May 14, 2019
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6,243 people are talking about this
“A Democratic town hall gives the Fox News sales team a way to tell potential sponsors it’s safe to buy ads on Fox—no harm to their brand or reputation (spoiler: it’s not),” she said.

Throughout her time on the trail thus far, Warren noted that she has held town halls in 17 states and Puerto Rico, with press and voter questions at each.

“I’ve done 57 media avails and 131 interviews, taking over 1,100 questions from press just since January,” she said. “Fox News is welcome to come to my events just like any other outlet. But a Fox News town hall adds money to the hate-for-profit machine. To which I say: hard pass.”

In mid-April, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) participated in a Fox town hall in Pennsylvania, which was a ratings success and an opportunity to showcase how some of his staple issues like Medicare for All resonated with an audience in a state President Trump narrowly captured in 2016.

Following his appearance, a number of 2020 candidates eager for their own hour of free air time have been in talks with the network about doing their own town halls. Already Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) has been featured in one of her own, and Fox has scheduled events with South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY).

Democrats have been grappling with how to best handle the large audience Fox commands with some thinking it is essential to directly engage. In 2018, Warren appeared on the network three times, primarily to discuss legislative work and the introduction of new bills.

The Democratic National Committee banned Fox from hosting one of its primary debates—after a New Yorker article revealed the network’s cozy relationship with President Trump—but signaled early on that it was up to the individual campaigns as to how they wanted to execute their own media strategies. The view from Warren's camp is that all the campaigns will make their own choices on when and how to engage.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elizabeth-warren-turns-down-fox-news-town-hall-calling-the-network-a-hate-for-profit-racket/

Wait, I thought it was wrong to attack the media?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on May 15, 2019, 07:19:41 AM
Mark Cuban leaves open possibility of running for president as an independent


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Mark Cuban left open the possibility of running for president, telling CNBC on Tuesday, “We’ll see.”

Cuban told CNBC’s Scott Wapner that some things would need to happen for him to be motivated to run in 2020, and if he did, it would be as an independent.


“We’ll see what happens. It would take the perfect storm for me to do it,” the billionaire entrepreneur and Dallas Mavericks owner said. “There’s some things that could open the door, but I’m not projecting or predicting it right now.”

“I still think there’s a real opportunity for somebody who is in the middle but has some charisma, has the ability to relate to both sides but is not a politician. The reality is people don’t trust politicians,” Cuban said in the telephone interview on “Halftime Report. ”

When asked who on the Democratic side has the best chance of winning, Cuban said “nobody right now.” “If you look at why people voted for Donald Trump, in my opinion, first and foremost it was because he wasn’t a politician. ”

When asked who on the Democratic side has the best chance of winning, Cuban said “nobody right now.” “If you look at why people voted for Donald Trump, in my opinion, first and foremost it was because he wasn’t a politician. ”

Cuban said the more than 20 Democratic candidates so far are all politicians. “Politicians are the least trusted of every profession,” he said.

Cuban said none of the candidates stands out, not even former Vice President Joe Biden, who is leading the polls.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/14/mark-cuban-leaves-open-possibility-of-running-for-president-as-an-independent.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on May 17, 2019, 05:08:29 AM
Poll: Biden leads Dems by 18 points, followed by Sanders and Warren

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Former Vice President Joe Biden maintains a comfortable lead over the other candidates in the Democratic Party's 2020 primary field, according to a new poll.

A Fox News poll released Thursday found that Biden enjoys an 18-point lead over his closest challenger, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), with Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) sitting in third place.

Biden was supported by 35 percent of likely Democratic primary voters in the poll, up from 31 percent in March, while Sanders sat at 17 percent, a slight dip from March when he registered support from 23 percent of voters.


Warren, meanwhile, has yet to break double digits even as she has seen her support in the poll surge from 4 percent in March to 9 percent in the most recent poll.

Also having notable shifts in support in the poll were Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), who saw her support dip from 8 percent to 5 percent, and South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D), who has climbed to fourth place at 6 percent after previously registering just 1 percent support in March.

Defeating President Trump remains the top priority of Democratic primary voters, according to the poll, which found that 73 percent listed a victory in November 2020 as their top priority over policy decisions.


51 percent want to see someone who shares their views take office by comparison, and 47 percent want someone with "new ideas" to take office.

The Fox News poll was conducted between May 11-14 and contacted 469 registered Democratic voters nationwide. The margin of error is plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/444215-poll-biden-leads-dems-by-18-points-followed-by-sanders-and-warren
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on May 17, 2019, 05:31:12 AM
Ocasio-Cortez attacks Biden on climate change policy, Biden says he's 'never been middle of the road'

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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., has ramped up her criticism of former Vice President Joe Biden's reported “middle ground” climate change policy approach as part of his 2020 presidential campaign.

"I will be damned if the same politicians who refused to act then are going to try to come back today and say we need a 'middle of the road' approach to save our lives," Ocasio-Cortez said at a Green New Deal rally Monday night. .

Biden shot back at a campaign event in New Hampshire on Tuesday.

"I've never been middle of the road on the environment," he told reporters. "Tell her to check the statements that I made, and look at my record and she'll find that nobody has been more consistent about taking on the environment and a Green Revolution then I have." Biden said he's been talking about climate change since 1987.

He added, "I don’t think she was talking about me."

Ocasio-Cortez made her comments as the closing speaker at at a rally in Washington, D.C., marking the final stop on a "Road to a Green New Deal Tour," co-headlined by one of Biden's rivals, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.

She attacked what a recent Reuters report characterized as a “middle ground approach” that Biden is working on as an alternative to Ocasio-Cortez’s proposed Green New Deal.


Biden has not publicly released a climate change proposal. However, according to the Reuters report, Biden is currently drafting climate change policy that "will appeal to both environmentalists and the blue-collar voters who elected Donald Trump.” The plan will reportedly focus on initiatives such a re-joining the Paris Climate Agreement and "regulations on emissions and vehicle fuel efficiency." He has said he will reveal his plan in a speech later this month.

The freshman Democrat criticized "conservatives on both sides of the aisle" who have not signed on to support the Green New Deal bill.

Although she never mentioned him by name, Ocasio-Cortez' reference to "politicians who refused to act back then" appeared aimed at Biden when she spoke about the inaction of Congress following the 1989 history-making testimony of James Hansen, director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies. Biden was in the Senate when Hansen told Senate lawmakers that global warming was real, already happening and posed a serious threat.

"This is a dealbreaker. There is no 'middle ground' w/ climate denial & delay," Ocasio-Cortez tweeted. "Blaming 'blue collar' Americans as the main opponents to bold climate policy is gas lobbyist 101," she added. "We’re not going to solve the climate crisis w/ this lack of leadership. Our kids’ lives are at stake."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/ocasio-cortez-ramps-attacks-bidens-reported-middle-ground/story%3fid=63024980
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on May 17, 2019, 09:02:43 AM
Poll: Biden leads Dems by 18 points, followed by Sanders and Warren

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Former Vice President Joe Biden maintains a comfortable lead over the other candidates in the Democratic Party's 2020 primary field, according to a new poll.

A Fox News poll released Thursday found that Biden enjoys an 18-point lead over his closest challenger, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), with Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) sitting in third place.

Biden was supported by 35 percent of likely Democratic primary voters in the poll, up from 31 percent in March, while Sanders sat at 17 percent, a slight dip from March when he registered support from 23 percent of voters.


Warren, meanwhile, has yet to break double digits even as she has seen her support in the poll surge from 4 percent in March to 9 percent in the most recent poll.

Also having notable shifts in support in the poll were Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), who saw her support dip from 8 percent to 5 percent, and South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D), who has climbed to fourth place at 6 percent after previously registering just 1 percent support in March.

Defeating President Trump remains the top priority of Democratic primary voters, according to the poll, which found that 73 percent listed a victory in November 2020 as their top priority over policy decisions.


51 percent want to see someone who shares their views take office by comparison, and 47 percent want someone with "new ideas" to take office.

The Fox News poll was conducted between May 11-14 and contacted 469 registered Democratic voters nationwide. The margin of error is plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/444215-poll-biden-leads-dems-by-18-points-followed-by-sanders-and-warren

How many times have we seen this kind of mistake?  Bob Dole, John McCain, Hillary Clinton:  people who hung around long enough to get their party's nomination, only to get crushed in the general election.  Biden is no different. 

He is terrible.  He's not smart.  He hasn't accomplished anything.  He's a weirdo.  He is constantly putting his foot in his mouth.  He previously dropped out of the race when his plagiarism was exposed.  He lied about his academic record.  He's not a good debater.  And most importantly, his political views are just garden variety failed liberalism.

Other than that he is an outstanding candidate. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on May 17, 2019, 09:09:18 AM
Funny.   :) 

FOX NEWS REPORTEDLY TURNED DOWN SWALWELL TOWN HALL REQUEST
05/16/2019 | MEDIA
Mike Brest | Reporter

Democratic California Rep. and presidential candidate Eric Swalwell reportedly wanted to participate in a town hall event on Fox News, but the network rebuffed his request.

“I would absolutely do a Fox town hall,” Swalwell said to CNN on Wednesday. “But they told us we can’t have one which is a little bit confusing to us because they have given them to people who are polling at the same place as us.”

CNN also reported that Swalwell found the network’s rejection to be “frustrating” because Fox News is “bemoaning that the Democrats won’t do the debates.”

Four candidates either already appeared in a town hall on Fox News or are scheduled to participate in one. Thus far, Independent Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar have already hosted a town hall on the network. The ratings for Sanders’ appearance ranks first among presidential town halls this election cycle on any of the cable networks, while Klobuchar comes in at third.

South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg is scheduled to have a Fox News town hall on Sunday. New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand is scheduled to have one the first week in June.

According to the most recent Morning Consult poll, Sanders had 19%, Buttigieg 6%, Klobuchar 2%, and Gillibrand 1%. Swalwell comes in tied with Gillibrand, with 1%, proving his point that the network has scheduled a town hall for a candidate who is polling with the same support as he is. Gillibrand, however, has served two terms in the House and two in the Senate; Swalwell has only served in the House.

A Fox News spokesperson disputed Swalwell’s claim to CNN, but added that the door is still open for a future event. A Fox News spokesperson pointed The Daily Caller to that when asked to comment on CNN’s article.

Fellow presidential candidate Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren announced on Wednesday that she would not host a presidential town hall on Fox News claiming it is “a hate-for-profit racket that gives a megaphone to racists and conspiracists.”

Elizabeth Warren

@ewarren
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@ewarren
Hate-for-profit works only if there’s profit, so Fox News balances a mix of bigotry, racism, and outright lies with enough legit journalism to make the claim to advertisers that it’s a reputable news outlet. It’s all about dragging in ad money—big ad money.

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California Sen. Kamala Harris made the same decision following Warren’s announcement, according to Yashar Ali.

Former Maryland Rep. John Delaney and former Governor of Colorado John Hickenlooper disagreed with Warren’s decision with Delaney offering to take her time slot.

Swalwell’s office did not respond to a request for comment.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/16/eric-swalwell-fox-news-presidential-town-hall/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on May 17, 2019, 05:37:59 PM
How many times have we seen this kind of mistake?  Bob Dole, John McCain, Hillary Clinton:  people who hung around long enough to get their party's nomination, only to get crushed in the general election.  Biden is no different. 

He is terrible.  He's not smart.  He hasn't accomplished anything.  He's a weirdo.  He is constantly putting his foot in his mouth.  He previously dropped out of the race when his plagiarism was exposed.  He lied about his academic record.  He's not a good debater.  And most importantly, his political views are just garden variety failed liberalism.

Other than that he is an outstanding candidate. 

Truth bomb
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2019, 05:13:26 AM
Biden is a complete joke
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on May 18, 2019, 07:45:39 PM
The Beto balloon bursts


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Washington(CNN) Give Donald Trump this: He's a pretty decent political handicapper.

Take his riff on Beto O'Rourke during an "official" White House event in Louisiana on Tuesday night:

"Beto. Beto's falling fast, what the hell happened? Remember about four weeks ago he said, 'I was made for it.' He was made for it! He was made to fall like a rock."


It's a pretty decent summation of the arc -- downward -- that the former Texas congressman's presidential campaign has been on since, well, he got into the race. As Harry Enten wrote recently:

"In an average of national polls taken since Biden entered the race, O'Rourke has fallen to just below 5% support. That's the lowest he has been since at least December.

"But it's not just that O'Rourke has seen his numbers decline nationally -- it's that his polls look even worse in the early caucus and primary states. I could not find a single poll in Iowa, New Hampshire or South Carolina conducted after Biden entered in which O'Rourke polled above 3%."

O'Rourke, in a desperate attempt to get his buzz back, livestreamed his haircut Wednesday.

The idea that a candidate who formally entered the presidential race March 14 is already pressing the reset button is BIG trouble. It's only been 62 days!  What this sort of recalibration so early in a candidacy suggests is that the candidate may not really know who he is or how he wants to run.

Resets can work -- see John McCain during the 2008 presidential primary campaign -- but they are usually a return to the more authentic version of the politician. In O'Rourke's case, he seemed to have spent his first 60 days in the race being the person who caught fire in the Texas Senate race: Light on policy, more of a listener than a talker and, above all, cool and charismatic.

Unfortunately for him, that profile isn't playing -- like, at all -- in the presidential race.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/15/politics/beto-orourke-2020-campaign-reset/index.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on May 19, 2019, 02:02:01 AM
The Beto balloon bursts


(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190514153752-beto-orourke-the-view-super-169.jpg)

Washington(CNN) Give Donald Trump this: He's a pretty decent political handicapper.

Take his riff on Beto O'Rourke during an "official" White House event in Louisiana on Tuesday night:

"Beto. Beto's falling fast, what the hell happened? Remember about four weeks ago he said, 'I was made for it.' He was made for it! He was made to fall like a rock."


It's a pretty decent summation of the arc -- downward -- that the former Texas congressman's presidential campaign has been on since, well, he got into the race. As Harry Enten wrote recently:

"In an average of national polls taken since Biden entered the race, O'Rourke has fallen to just below 5% support. That's the lowest he has been since at least December.

"But it's not just that O'Rourke has seen his numbers decline nationally -- it's that his polls look even worse in the early caucus and primary states. I could not find a single poll in Iowa, New Hampshire or South Carolina conducted after Biden entered in which O'Rourke polled above 3%."

O'Rourke, in a desperate attempt to get his buzz back, livestreamed his haircut Wednesday.

The idea that a candidate who formally entered the presidential race March 14 is already pressing the reset button is BIG trouble. It's only been 62 days!  What this sort of recalibration so early in a candidacy suggests is that the candidate may not really know who he is or how he wants to run.

Resets can work -- see John McCain during the 2008 presidential primary campaign -- but they are usually a return to the more authentic version of the politician. In O'Rourke's case, he seemed to have spent his first 60 days in the race being the person who caught fire in the Texas Senate race: Light on policy, more of a listener than a talker and, above all, cool and charismatic.

Unfortunately for him, that profile isn't playing -- like, at all -- in the presidential race.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/15/politics/beto-orourke-2020-campaign-reset/index.html

Too bad.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on May 20, 2019, 10:05:47 AM
The Beto balloon bursts


(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190514153752-beto-orourke-the-view-super-169.jpg)

Washington(CNN) Give Donald Trump this: He's a pretty decent political handicapper.

Take his riff on Beto O'Rourke during an "official" White House event in Louisiana on Tuesday night:

"Beto. Beto's falling fast, what the hell happened? Remember about four weeks ago he said, 'I was made for it.' He was made for it! He was made to fall like a rock."


It's a pretty decent summation of the arc -- downward -- that the former Texas congressman's presidential campaign has been on since, well, he got into the race. As Harry Enten wrote recently:

"In an average of national polls taken since Biden entered the race, O'Rourke has fallen to just below 5% support. That's the lowest he has been since at least December.

"But it's not just that O'Rourke has seen his numbers decline nationally -- it's that his polls look even worse in the early caucus and primary states. I could not find a single poll in Iowa, New Hampshire or South Carolina conducted after Biden entered in which O'Rourke polled above 3%."

O'Rourke, in a desperate attempt to get his buzz back, livestreamed his haircut Wednesday.

The idea that a candidate who formally entered the presidential race March 14 is already pressing the reset button is BIG trouble. It's only been 62 days!  What this sort of recalibration so early in a candidacy suggests is that the candidate may not really know who he is or how he wants to run.

Resets can work -- see John McCain during the 2008 presidential primary campaign -- but they are usually a return to the more authentic version of the politician. In O'Rourke's case, he seemed to have spent his first 60 days in the race being the person who caught fire in the Texas Senate race: Light on policy, more of a listener than a talker and, above all, cool and charismatic.

Unfortunately for him, that profile isn't playing -- like, at all -- in the presidential race.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/15/politics/beto-orourke-2020-campaign-reset/index.html

I don't know how this socially awkward empty suit got so much press. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on May 20, 2019, 03:48:51 PM
And this is why you don't let socialists anywhere near the legislative process.  This is retarded, on many levels.   

Kamala Harris Offers Sweeping Plan To Dock Companies That Don’t Pay Women Equally
The proposal would levy fines on businesses who don’t prove that their pay practices are fair.
By Igor Bobic
POLITICS 05/20/2019

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) on Monday unveiled the second major proposal of her presidential campaign: a comprehensive plan designed to punish corporations that don’t provide equal pay for female employees.

Female employees usually bear the burden of suing for relief from pay discrimination in the U.S., often risking retaliation from their bosses by coming forward.

Harris’ proposal, which her campaign called “the most aggressive equal pay proposal in history,” seeks to flip that system on its head. Instead of relying on employees to prove they were discriminated against, corporations would be required to prove that their pay practices are fair. The plan is modeled after a similar first-of-its-kind law that went into effect in Iceland last year.

“It should not be on a working woman to prove it. It should instead be on that large corporation to prove they’re paying people for equal work equally,” Harris said in an interview that aired Monday on CNN.

Under Harris’ plan, companies would be required to obtain an “equal pay certification” from the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to prove they pay women equally. They would be required to disclose whether they received that certification on their website’s homepage and to prospective employees.

To meet certification requirements, companies would have to “demonstrate they have eliminated pay disparities between women and men who are doing work of equal value,” per Harris’ campaign. “To the extent pay disparities do exist for similar jobs, companies will be required to show the gap is based on merit, performance, or seniority ― not gender.”

The plan does not stipulate exactly how pay disparities at companies would be assessed, but her campaign pointed to a 2016 payroll data analysis done by Glassdoor of its own workforce. The plan also calls for providing technical assistance to support companies so they can assess and address their pay gaps.

Under Harris’ plan, companies with 100 or more employees would be required to obtain certification within three years of law’s enactment and every two years thereafter (smaller businesses get a pass). Companies with 500 or more employees would have two years from the law’s enactment to certify, and then comply with the two-year recertification rule.

If companies fail to gain EEOC certification, they would face fines for every 1% pay gap that exists in their workforce. The fines would vary, for each pay-gap percentage point, a business would have to pay 1% of its average daily profits during the previous fiscal year.

Harris’ campaign estimated the scheme would, at least initially, generate about $180 billion over 10 years ― funds she supports investing to help finance a national paid family and medical leave program. The U.S. has no such national programs, though many firms have their own.

Harris’ plan also includes provisions seeking to boost transparency about worker pay and the role of women within a company. It would require, for example, that companies report statistics on the percentage of women in leadership positions and the percentage who are among their top earners.

Vicki Shabo, a senior fellow at nonpartisan think tank New America, called Harris’ equal pay plan “exciting” and “long overdue.”

“Closing the wage gap would mean tens of millions for women and their families,” she said. “It could wipe out student loan debt, give relief to homeowners, and literally put food on the table. It’s something that can help stimulate the economy.”

The standard wage gap measure put out annually by the Census Bureau currently shows that women make 80 cents for every male dollar earned. (Earnings are even lower for women of color.)

House Democrats easily passed a bill earlier this year to make sure women and men are paid equally. The legislation, known as the Paycheck Fairness Act, aims to eliminate gender-based pay inequality by altering language in the Fair Labor Standards Act.

But the measure has effectively stalled due to GOP opposition in the Senate, where is unlikely to even receive a vote. Republicans have long argued that such bills would heighten the risks of lawsuits for businesses, and Harris’ proposal would likely face similar GOP opposition if she managed to win the White House in 2020.

“We don’t need to strap new regulations, burdens, or fines on businesses to create opportunities for women, and President Trump’s economic record is a testament to that,” Republican National Committee spokeswoman Blair Ellis said in a statement, noting the rate of women’s unemployment currently stands at a 50-year low.

But Harris’ campaign said she won’t be waiting on Congress to act to enact pay equity. If elected, she vowed to take executive action to implement her plan for federal contractors ― who would then be required to attain certification within two years of her taking office.

Harris’ first major policy proposal, unveiled in March, focused on drastically increasing teachers’ pay around the country.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/equal-pay-kamala-harris_n_5ce18f8de4b09e0578061ac4
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 20, 2019, 04:03:52 PM

"Beto. Beto's falling fast, what the hell happened? Remember about four weeks ago he said, 'I was made for it.' He was made for it! He was made to fall like a rock."


Gold. Just gold. Man things are going to be boring after 2024.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on May 28, 2019, 03:11:54 PM
In his defense, I don't have a problem with people changing their minds as they learn new information, become older and wiser, etc.  Not saying that's the reason for his change, but could be.

Pollak: Joe Biden’s Fifty Years of Flip-Flops
JOEL B. POLLAK
28 May 2019

Former vice president Joe Biden faces an opponent possibly even more formidable than President Donald Trump: himself.
In a half-century in Washington — spanning 36 years in the Senate and eight in the Obama administration — Biden has flip-flopped on most major issues. On other issues, his former positions are no longer viable within the Democratic Party.

Here is a list of Biden’s reversals:

1. Abortion: Biden used to pride himself on a “middle of the road” approach, supporting the pro-choice movement but maintaining that Roe v. Wade went too far. He also supported the Hyde amendment, which prevents federal funding for abortion, and voted to ban partial-birth abortions. He even voted to allow states to overturn Roe. Recently, however, Biden reversed his position on the Hyde amendment, and condemned efforts by states like Alabama to overturn Roe.

2. Iraq War: Biden voted against the Gulf War in 1991, but voted in favor of the Iraq War in 2002. Like Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, Biden regretted that vote later. Rather than backing a U.S. troop “surge” — which ultimately worked — Biden’s proposed alternative for Iraq was to partition the country into separate religious enclaves.
 
3. Immigration: As recently as 2006, Biden told Chris Matthews on MSNBC’s Hardball that the U.S. should not grant “amnesty” to illegal aliens in the country, and that aspiring immigrants ought to be required to learn English. He also voted for a border fence — and told voters that he was proud of it. All of these positions are now broadly described as “racist” by Democrats, and Biden has revised his positions on amnesty (it is unclear where he stands on a border wall).

4. Women: Biden has taken criticism from Anita Hill and other women about how he treated her during the 1991 confirmation hearings for Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Though he said privately at the time that he believed she was lying, he has now tried to make amends. Biden is also trying to change a pattern of behavior in which he touched, kissed, or sniffed women at public events — unacceptable conduct in the post-#MeToo era.
 
5. Desegregation: Early in his Senate career, Biden opposed “busing” to integrate schools. Biden also worked closely with Senators who opposed civil rights and delivered a eulogy for former segregationist Strom Thurmond. His initial comments on Barack Obama’s campaign were tinged with racial condescension. Later, as vice president, he warned black voters Republicans would “put y’all back in chains.” Now he is running as a uniter, casting Trump as a racist.

6. Guns. In 1986, Biden voted with the National Rifle Association (NRA) on a bill called the “Firearms Owners’ Protection Act (FOPA),” which the Second Amendment lobby calls “the law that saved gun rights” because it rolled back onerous regulations. As NBC News notes, Biden was key to the law’s passage. In the 1990s, however, Biden began backing aggressive gun control laws. (He still offers bizarre advice on the use of shotguns for self-defense).

7. Drugs: As Politico noted recently, Biden was one of the leaders of the war on drugs — which he now says went too far. His policies on crack led to racial disparities in sentencing; other legislation he pushed has made it harder to treat opioid addiction, or to report overdoses. The Free Beacon notes that Biden used to call marijuana a “gateway drug,” but shifted suddenly toward backing “decriminalization” — just days before a fundraiser with a pro-legalization donor.

8. Gay marriage: In 1996, Biden voted for the Defense of Marriage Act, which prohibited federal recognition of same-sex marriages. Later in 2012, he shifted positions, in effect forcing President Obama to do the same (though many suspected Obama already backed same-sex marriage despite his public opposition and support for a traditional Christian view.) Biden now says that the movement for transgender rights is the “civil rights issue of our time.”

And here are issues on which Biden’s views are too moderate for his party:

1. Coal: Biden told voters in West Virginia in 2008 that he and then-Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) were in favor of “clean coal.” That was before the election, and before President Obama began taking regulatory steps designed to put the coal industry out of business. Most of the Democratic presidential candidates embrace the “Green New Deal,” which calls for removing coal — “clean” or otherwise” — and other fossil fuels from the American economy within 12 years.

2. Entitlement reform: Biden once proposed freezing or cutting entitlements like Medicare and Social Security. As recently as 2018, he supported means testing for Social Security. Democrats routinely run “Mediscare” campaigns against Republicans who propose even mild reforms to the nation’s entitlements, and the party’s young “progressives” — who now drive its policy agenda — question whether the federal government needs to balance its budget at all.

3. Trade: Biden was a staunch supporter of free trade agreements throughout his career. As Politico noted recently: “In the Senate, Biden voted for the North American Free Trade Agreement [NAFTA] and permanent normal trade relations with China. As then-President Barack Obama’s No. 2, he supported the Trans-Pacific Partnership [TPP].” The article also pointed out that Biden rarely mentions trade, and that his Democratic rivals are “itching” to attack his record on it.

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/05/28/joe-biden-fifty-years-flip-flops/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on May 28, 2019, 03:14:11 PM
And this is why you don't let socialists anywhere near the legislative process.  This is retarded, on many levels.   

Kamala Harris Offers Sweeping Plan To Dock Companies That Don’t Pay Women Equally
The proposal would levy fines on businesses who don’t prove that their pay practices are fair.
By Igor Bobic
POLITICS 05/20/2019

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) on Monday unveiled the second major proposal of her presidential campaign: a comprehensive plan designed to punish corporations that don’t provide equal pay for female employees.

Female employees usually bear the burden of suing for relief from pay discrimination in the U.S., often risking retaliation from their bosses by coming forward.

Harris’ proposal, which her campaign called “the most aggressive equal pay proposal in history,” seeks to flip that system on its head. Instead of relying on employees to prove they were discriminated against, corporations would be required to prove that their pay practices are fair. The plan is modeled after a similar first-of-its-kind law that went into effect in Iceland last year.

“It should not be on a working woman to prove it. It should instead be on that large corporation to prove they’re paying people for equal work equally,” Harris said in an interview that aired Monday on CNN.

Under Harris’ plan, companies would be required to obtain an “equal pay certification” from the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to prove they pay women equally. They would be required to disclose whether they received that certification on their website’s homepage and to prospective employees.

To meet certification requirements, companies would have to “demonstrate they have eliminated pay disparities between women and men who are doing work of equal value,” per Harris’ campaign. “To the extent pay disparities do exist for similar jobs, companies will be required to show the gap is based on merit, performance, or seniority ― not gender.”

The plan does not stipulate exactly how pay disparities at companies would be assessed, but her campaign pointed to a 2016 payroll data analysis done by Glassdoor of its own workforce. The plan also calls for providing technical assistance to support companies so they can assess and address their pay gaps.

Under Harris’ plan, companies with 100 or more employees would be required to obtain certification within three years of law’s enactment and every two years thereafter (smaller businesses get a pass). Companies with 500 or more employees would have two years from the law’s enactment to certify, and then comply with the two-year recertification rule.

If companies fail to gain EEOC certification, they would face fines for every 1% pay gap that exists in their workforce. The fines would vary, for each pay-gap percentage point, a business would have to pay 1% of its average daily profits during the previous fiscal year.

Harris’ campaign estimated the scheme would, at least initially, generate about $180 billion over 10 years ― funds she supports investing to help finance a national paid family and medical leave program. The U.S. has no such national programs, though many firms have their own.

Harris’ plan also includes provisions seeking to boost transparency about worker pay and the role of women within a company. It would require, for example, that companies report statistics on the percentage of women in leadership positions and the percentage who are among their top earners.

Vicki Shabo, a senior fellow at nonpartisan think tank New America, called Harris’ equal pay plan “exciting” and “long overdue.”

“Closing the wage gap would mean tens of millions for women and their families,” she said. “It could wipe out student loan debt, give relief to homeowners, and literally put food on the table. It’s something that can help stimulate the economy.”

The standard wage gap measure put out annually by the Census Bureau currently shows that women make 80 cents for every male dollar earned. (Earnings are even lower for women of color.)

House Democrats easily passed a bill earlier this year to make sure women and men are paid equally. The legislation, known as the Paycheck Fairness Act, aims to eliminate gender-based pay inequality by altering language in the Fair Labor Standards Act.

But the measure has effectively stalled due to GOP opposition in the Senate, where is unlikely to even receive a vote. Republicans have long argued that such bills would heighten the risks of lawsuits for businesses, and Harris’ proposal would likely face similar GOP opposition if she managed to win the White House in 2020.

“We don’t need to strap new regulations, burdens, or fines on businesses to create opportunities for women, and President Trump’s economic record is a testament to that,” Republican National Committee spokeswoman Blair Ellis said in a statement, noting the rate of women’s unemployment currently stands at a 50-year low.

But Harris’ campaign said she won’t be waiting on Congress to act to enact pay equity. If elected, she vowed to take executive action to implement her plan for federal contractors ― who would then be required to attain certification within two years of her taking office.

Harris’ first major policy proposal, unveiled in March, focused on drastically increasing teachers’ pay around the country.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/equal-pay-kamala-harris_n_5ce18f8de4b09e0578061ac4

One dumb policy position after another.

Kamala Harris proposes having DOJ approve new abortion laws in certain states
by John Gage
May 28, 2019

Presidential hopeful Sen. Kamala Harris released a plan Tuesday that would mandate states where past anti-abortion laws have been overturned by the courts to have any new ones approved by the Department of Justice

“Under the plan, states and localities will be subject to the preclearance requirement if they have a pattern of violating Roe v. Wade in the preceding 25 years,” the California Democrat said.

“Any change with respect to abortion in a covered jurisdiction will remain legally unenforceable until DOJ determines it comports with the standards laid out by the Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade,” she said.

Harris termed her plan the Reproduction Rights Act and wants to codify abortion into state laws nationwide. The plan also allows women and healthcare providers to sue the Department of Justice if “hostile administrations” seek to approve anti-abortion laws.

The plan, which would be similar to the Voting Rights Act, is a response to a slew of anti-abortion laws passed this year in a dozen conservative states, including Georgia, Alabama, and Missouri.

The presidential hopeful’s competitor Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., called this month for Congress to pass legislation to guarantee abortion protections if Roe v. Wade is overturned.

Harris is polling fourth in RealCearPolitics' polling average at 8%, behind former Vice President Joe Biden, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, and Warren.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/kamala-harris-proposes-having-doj-approve-new-abortion-laws-in-certain-states
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on May 28, 2019, 03:50:45 PM
"Beto. Beto's falling fast, what the hell happened? Remember about four weeks ago he said, 'I was made for it.' He was made for it! He was made to fall like a rock."


Gold. Just gold. Man things are going to be boring after 2024.

From Beto to Beta didn’t take him Long.   ;)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on May 31, 2019, 04:17:12 PM
DEMOCRATS MAKE SURPRISE MOVE TO SQUEEZE AND NARROW CAMPAIGN FIELD, CONCERNING CAMPAIGN OFFICIALS
05/31/2019 | POLITICS
Matt M. Miller | Contributor
https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/31/democrats-third-primary-debate/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on May 31, 2019, 05:15:34 PM
Two dozen running might amount to a free-for-all, leaving the established pols gasping in the
wake of a...I don't know...populist?.  The DNC will do what they can to protect their entrenched
candidates.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on May 31, 2019, 06:22:14 PM
Two dozen running might amount to a free-for-all, leaving the established pols gasping in the
wake of a...I don't know...populist?.  The DNC will do what they can to protect their entrenched
candidates.



I heard a Democrat strategist say last night that he was confident the nominee would be a moderate/centrist Democrat.  I laughed out loud at that.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on May 31, 2019, 10:05:15 PM
I heard a Democrat strategist say last night that he was confident the nominee would be a moderate/centrist Democrat.  I laughed out loud at that.

Yeah, that's a howler!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 04, 2019, 10:39:56 AM
Robert Francis really packing in the crowds.

Beto plays to tens in tiny Tulsa room


Robert “Beto” O’Rourke would attend the opening of an envelope at this point.

The crestfallen one-time media darling is now struggling to scrounge up even tens of voters willing to hear him speak.

He was in Tulsa, Oklahoma over the weekend to tour flood damage and speak to Democrat activists.

Judging by the video his campaign posted, there were about 20 people in the room.


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O’Rourke defended abortion to a small group in a small room at the Tulsa County Democratic headquarters.

The Tulsa World reports:

Presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke spent several hours visiting Tulsa County flood victims Sunday and then met with party regulars at the local Democratic headquarters.

The trip was part campaign swing, part fact-finding mission for O’Rourke, a former Texas congressman fighting for position in the teeming Democratic presidential pool.

Former Gov. David Walters served as escort for O’Rourke, but made it clear he wasn’t endorsing the flagging candidate.

Walters, a member of the Democratic National Committee and the party’s executive committee, said he was acting strictly as a host.

Asked if he had endorsed O’Rourke, Walters said, “No, but I love the guy. I think he’s one of our top-tier candidates.”

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/beto-plays-to-tens-in-tiny-tulsa-room/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on June 04, 2019, 03:46:47 PM
O’Rourke feels 'really good' about 2020 campaign
By AUBREE ELIZA WEAVER 05/26/2019 11:17 AM EDT

Despite recent headlines saying “Beto O’Rourke Blew It” and “The Beto Balloon Bursts,” the 2020 Democratic presidential candidate said he feels “really good about the way we’re campaigning.”

“I’m going to people where they are in their communities,” O’Rourke said on CBS’ “Face the Nation” on Sunday morning. “No me importa. I do not care how red or blue, rural or urban; I’m showing up to listen to them, and what they’re telling me is they want this country to come together around our shared challenges. So I’m listening to them more than I am to the headlines.”


The RS Politics 2020 Democratic Primary Leaderboard
Ranking a crowded field as two dozen contenders jockey to confront Trump

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/2020-democrat-candidates-771735/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/2020-democrat-candidates-771735/)

Beto ranks 7th as of Monday. Guess that makes him something of a long shot right now.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on June 04, 2019, 03:49:43 PM
Sen. Cory Booker Plans for Government to Give $46,215 to All 18-Year-Olds in ‘Lowest Income Bracket’
By CNSNews.com Staff | February 20, 2019

Sen. Cory Booker (D.-N.J.) is proposing a plan—the American Opportunity Accounts Act—that he calculates will provide $46,215 to every 18-year-old in the lowest income bracket by giving them annual subsidies in a federally managed savings account.

Booker cited his plan in a Tweet he sent out this morning.

“We must close the wealth gap that’s undermining equal opportunity in our country,” Booker said in his Tweet. “My baby bonds will help level the playing field by creating a savings account for every U.S. child—to invest in themselves through things like paying for higher education.”

Booker’s Tweet retweeted an article tweeted by prosperitynow.org. The article was headlined: “Cory Booker’s America Opportunity Accounts Act is a Bold Step Towards Wealth Equality.”

“Today, with the announcement of the American Opportunity Accounts Act, we’re excited to see Senator Cory Booker (D.-N.J.) take a concrete step to help level the wealth-building playing field and ensure that all children—especially those who come from low- and moderate-income families—have a fair shot to reach financial security and prosperity,” said the article.

It linked to an article at Vox, entitled: “An exclusive look at Cory Booker’s plan to fight wealth inequality: give poor kids money.”

“America has a massive, growing racial wealth gap,” Vox said. “The median white family today holds nearly 10 times the wealth of the median black family.

“Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.),” Vox continued, “is introducing a bill aimed at closing that gap. His idea is to give low-income kids a sizable nest egg (nearly $50,000 in some cases) that they could use for wealth-building purchases, like a down payment on a house or college tuition.”

“It would be a dramatic change in our country to have low-income people break out of generational poverty,” Booker told Vox. “We could rapidly bring security into those families’ lives, and that is really exciting to me.”

Vox explained how Booker’s plan would work:

“His American Opportunity Accounts Act would give each child born in the United States a savings account with $1,000. Each year, until the child turns 18, the government would deposit as much as $2,000 into that account. The size of the annual payment would depend on the child’s family income, with lower-income families receiving larger checks. …

“Booker’s office estimates that a child who remains in the lowest income bracket of the program (meaning she gets the largest, $2,000 payment each year) would accrue $46,215 by her 18th birthday. A child in the highest income bracket of the program (above 500 percent of the poverty line, or $147,100 for a family of four) would end up with $1,681—just the original $1,000 payment plus earnings accured from the government investing it in low-risk funds.”

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/cnsnewscom-staff/sen-cory-booker-plans-government-give-46215-all-18-year-olds-lowest-income
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on June 06, 2019, 06:03:28 PM
Who does he think he is, Mitt Romney?  What a spineless hack. 

Biden reverses stance on Hyde Amendment after blowback
BY JESSIE HELLMANN - 06/06/19
 
Democratic presidential hopeful Joe Biden said Thursday he no longer supports the Hyde Amendment, just one day after reaffirming his decades-long support for the ban on federal funding for abortions.

Biden’s presidential campaign had said Wednesday that he still supported the controversial ban.

The news sparked intense blowback from members of his party, including fellow presidential hopefuls, who criticized Biden for maintaining his stance amid a spate of abortion restrictions passing state legislatures.

"If I believe health care is a right, as I do, I can no longer support an amendment that makes that right dependent on someone's zip code," he said at a Democratic National Convention gala in Atlanta.

Biden cited abortion restrictions recently passed by Republican governors for his change in position.

"I can't justify leaving millions of women without the access to care they need, and the ability to exercise their constitutionally protected right."

Planned Parenthood CEO Leana Wen lauded Biden's announcement on Twitter.

"Happy to see Joe Biden embrace what we have long known to be true: Hyde blocks people—particularly women of color and women with low incomes—from accessing safe, legal abortion care," Wen wrote.

Ilyse Hogue, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, similarly celebrated Biden's reversal.

“At a time where the fundamental freedoms enshrined in Roe are under attack, we need full throated allies in our leaders. Leadership is often about listening and learning," Hogue wrote in a statement.

"We’re pleased that Joe Biden has joined the rest of the 2020 Democratic field in coalescing around the Party’s core values — support for abortion rights, and the basic truth that reproductive freedom is fundamental to the pursuit of equality and economic security in this country.”

Biden, a devout Catholic who personally opposes abortion, sparked a wave of outrage from abortion rights supporters when his campaign told NBC News he still supported the Hyde amendment.

The Hyde amendment was first passed more than 40 years ago in response to the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade ruling, which established a woman’s right to abortion. It’s been reauthorized in annual government spending bills ever since, barring Medicaid, Medicare and other federal health programs from paying for abortions.

But opponents of the ban say it disproportionately impacts low-income women, particularly women of color.

His support for the 40-year ban was a departure from the position of the DNC and every Democrat running for president.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/447392-biden-reverses-stance-on-hyde-amendment-after-blowback
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 09, 2019, 05:25:29 PM
Beto O’Rourke vows he would have his DOJ prosecute Trump in 2020

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During a Sunday appearance on ABC's "The Week," Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D-TX) tried flexing his leftist muscles for the camera by promising to prosecute Donald Trump if he wins the presidency in 2020.

Host George Stephanopoulos asked O'Rourke first if he thought President Trump has committed any crimes that permit impeachment as a reaction.

O'Rourke answered, "He did. I think that’s clear from what we have learned from the Mueller report. But I think those crimes might extend beyond what we have seen in the Mueller report; using public office for personal gain, for himself and for his family, the relationship that he has with Vladimir Putin, which has never been properly explained from the invitation as a candidate to have Russia involve itself in our election, his efforts to obstruct justice, the fact that he called Vladimir Putin after the Mueller report was released, called it a hoax, thereby giving him a green light to further participate in our democracy and our elections."


The congressman continued, "If with don’t hold the president accountable we’ll set the precedent that some people in this country, because of their position of power, are in fact above the law. And if we do that, we’ll lose this democracy forever. Regardless of the popularity of the idea or what the polling shows us, we must proceed with impeachment so we get the facts and the truth and at end of the day there’s justice for what was done to our democracy in 2016."

Stephanoupolis then theorized that even if Congress moved to impeach Trump, the Republican-controlled Senate would never finish the matter. The host asked O'Rourke if he would want the Justice Department to prosecute Trump should someone defeat him in 2020.

"I would want my Justice Department, any future administration’s Justice Department to follow the facts and the truth and to make sure at the end of the day there’s accountability and justice, without this, without that, this idea, this experiment of American democracy comes to a close," O'Rourke said. "We were attacked unlike any other time in our 243-year history and we have a president who yet to acknowledge it and a president who has yet to be brought to justice. Yes, no matter who that is."

www.bizpacreview.com/2019/06/09/beto-orourke-vows-he-would-have-his-doj-prosecute-trump-in-2020-763282/amp
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 09, 2019, 05:29:36 PM
The Dem-on-Dem attacks have begun

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The niceties have ended: 2020 Democrats are breaking their own pledge not to go after one another. The attacks of the past week show what a long primary they're in for.

Why it matters: These jabs and skirmishes show a fracturing Democratic Party — exactly what some top Democrats wanted to avoid in order to maximize their chances of defeating President Trump.

Driving the news: Progressives and centrists are going at each other before any of them have stepped onto a debate stage.

Virtually the entire field went after Joe Biden this week for supporting the Hyde Amendment, which bans the use of federal funds to pay for abortions in most cases.

Elizabeth Warren said he was wrong at her MSNBC town hall, and Kamala Harris and Kirsten Gillibrand tweeted that Hyde should be repealed.

Biden clearly felt the heat. He announced Thursday that he no longer supports Hyde because Republicans have taken “extreme laws in clear violation of constitutional rights" of Roe v. Wade.

"If I believe health care is a right, as I do, I can no longer support an amendment that makes that right dependent on someone's ZIP code," he said.

John Hickenlooper and John Delaney got booed by a room full of progressives at the California Democratic Party convention for criticizing socialism, the Green New Deal and Medicare for All.

That landed Delaney in hot water with Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who tweeted a hint that he should drop out of the race.
Soon after Delaney responded by asking to debate AOC, Rep. Ilhan Omar stepped in to tell him (after AOC had already declined): “No means no.”

And don't forget the candidates vs. the Democratic National Committee.

Jay Inslee went after the DNC when they denied his request to have a presidential debate solely about climate change. (He's making the issue the central focus of his campaign.)

“The DNC is silencing the voices of Democratic activists, many of our progressive partner organizations, and nearly half of the Democratic presidential field, who want to debate the existential crisis of our time,” he wrote in an email to supporters.

Warren quickly joined in, saying Inslee is “exactly right,” and Beto O’Rourke jumped in, too.

Between the lines: Of course there’s a difference between calling out fellow Democrats for thinking they’re not progressive enough and disagreeing with the DNC on debates.

The bottom line: But if the last week is any indication, the gloves have come off and we should expect more Dem-on-Dem attacks to come. And the Trump campaign and the Republican National Committee will enjoy every minute of it.

https://www.axios.com/2020-democrats-centrists-progressives-attacks-77242ddb-bb37-4b15-98c6-7d107ef55d51.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 12, 2019, 03:48:56 PM
Howard Schultz says he's taking a 'detour' from exploring his 2020 candidacy while recovering from back surgeries

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Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz won't be doing any more 2020 campaign exploring until September.

Schultz announced in January that he was "seriously considering" running for president in 2020. But after an early media blitz and a series of appearances across the country, he mostly dropped off the radar in recent weeks, sparking questions about what exactly the status of his potential campaign was and whether he was still exploring a candidacy.

In a letter on Wednesday, Schultz addressed his absence, saying that he had to "cut my travels short" after experiencing back pain while in Arizona, and that he underwent three back surgeries over the course of two months. "Today, I am feeling much better, and my doctors foresee a full recovery so long as I rest and rehabilitate. I have decided to take the summer to do just that."

A previous report from Fox Business suggested that Schultz delayed his campaign decision to see whether former Vice President Joe Biden would emerge as the likely nominee, with the report saying that "this would be a significant impediment to Schultz running for president since his campaign would focus on similar issues to Biden."

Schultz in his Wednesday letter said he's taking "this detour from the road reluctantly" but that he will be "back in touch after Labor Day." Brendan Morrow

https://theweek.com/speedreads/846867/howard-schultz-says-hes-taking-detour-from-exploring-2020-candidacy-recovering-from-back-surgeries
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 12, 2019, 03:53:57 PM
Joe Biden says 'we're gonna cure cancer' if he's elected president

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WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Joe Biden says that he'll cure cancer if he's elected president.


Speaking at a campaign stop in Ottumwa, Iowa, on Tuesday he discussed losing loved ones before making his promise.

"A lot of you understand what loss is and when loss occurs, you know that people come up to you and tell you 'I understand' if you lose a husband, a wife, a son, a daughter, a family member," he said. "That's why I've worked so hard in my career to make sure that — I promise you if I'm elected president, you're going to see the single most important thing that changes America, we're gonna cure cancer."

The statement drew applause from the audience.

Biden has taken the lead on cancer issues before. He lost his eldest son, Beau Biden, to brain cancer, in 2015. The former vice president was tasked with leading President Barack Obama's "Cancer Moonshot" initiative to find a cure for cancer in the last year of the Obama administration.

After leaving office, Biden helped lead the Biden Cancer initiative at the University of Pennsylvania, which aims to "develop and drive implementation of solutions to accelerate progress in cancer prevention, detection, diagnosis, research, and care, and to reduce disparities in cancer outcomes." He left that role when he announced his bid for president.

After his comments, Biden was heckled by a protestor. The audience booed the man, but Biden responded calmly.

"No, no, that’s OK. No, no, no," Biden said. "This is not a Trump rally. Let him go."

The former vice president had been going through Iowa on several campaign stops at the same time as President Donald Trump. Biden called Trump an "existential threat" to the United States. Trump, for his part, criticized Biden for his age and for being "weak mentally."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1429287001
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on June 12, 2019, 05:18:22 PM
Joe Biden says 'we're gonna cure cancer' if he's elected president

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WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Joe Biden says that he'll cure cancer if he's elected president.


Speaking at a campaign stop in Ottumwa, Iowa, on Tuesday he discussed losing loved ones before making his promise.

"A lot of you understand what loss is and when loss occurs, you know that people come up to you and tell you 'I understand' if you lose a husband, a wife, a son, a daughter, a family member," he said. "That's why I've worked so hard in my career to make sure that — I promise you if I'm elected president, you're going to see the single most important thing that changes America, we're gonna cure cancer."

The statement drew applause from the audience.

Biden has taken the lead on cancer issues before. He lost his eldest son, Beau Biden, to brain cancer, in 2015. The former vice president was tasked with leading President Barack Obama's "Cancer Moonshot" initiative to find a cure for cancer in the last year of the Obama administration.

After leaving office, Biden helped lead the Biden Cancer initiative at the University of Pennsylvania, which aims to "develop and drive implementation of solutions to accelerate progress in cancer prevention, detection, diagnosis, research, and care, and to reduce disparities in cancer outcomes." He left that role when he announced his bid for president.

After his comments, Biden was heckled by a protestor. The audience booed the man, but Biden responded calmly.

"No, no, that’s OK. No, no, no," Biden said. "This is not a Trump rally. Let him go."

The former vice president had been going through Iowa on several campaign stops at the same time as President Donald Trump. Biden called Trump an "existential threat" to the United States. Trump, for his part, criticized Biden for his age and for being "weak mentally."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1429287001

"this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal"  ::)

Such language worked before. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: mazrim on June 12, 2019, 05:33:34 PM
Joe Biden says 'we're gonna cure cancer' if he's elected president

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WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Joe Biden says that he'll cure cancer if he's elected president.


Speaking at a campaign stop in Ottumwa, Iowa, on Tuesday he discussed losing loved ones before making his promise.

"A lot of you understand what loss is and when loss occurs, you know that people come up to you and tell you 'I understand' if you lose a husband, a wife, a son, a daughter, a family member," he said. "That's why I've worked so hard in my career to make sure that — I promise you if I'm elected president, you're going to see the single most important thing that changes America, we're gonna cure cancer."

The statement drew applause from the audience.

Biden has taken the lead on cancer issues before. He lost his eldest son, Beau Biden, to brain cancer, in 2015. The former vice president was tasked with leading President Barack Obama's "Cancer Moonshot" initiative to find a cure for cancer in the last year of the Obama administration.

After leaving office, Biden helped lead the Biden Cancer initiative at the University of Pennsylvania, which aims to "develop and drive implementation of solutions to accelerate progress in cancer prevention, detection, diagnosis, research, and care, and to reduce disparities in cancer outcomes." He left that role when he announced his bid for president.

After his comments, Biden was heckled by a protestor. The audience booed the man, but Biden responded calmly.

"No, no, that’s OK. No, no, no," Biden said. "This is not a Trump rally. Let him go."

The former vice president had been going through Iowa on several campaign stops at the same time as President Donald Trump. Biden called Trump an "existential threat" to the United States. Trump, for his part, criticized Biden for his age and for being "weak mentally."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1429287001
He is going to plagiarize form Israel now?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robinseatonjefferson/2019/01/29/israeli-scientists-say-they-will-have-a-complete-cure-for-cancer-within-a-year/#6f3047c63621
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 13, 2019, 06:40:19 AM
Warren rises to second in California poll


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Former Vice President Joe Biden has a small lead over the field of Democratic contenders in California, but Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is hot on his heels and has edged past Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) into second place, according to a new poll.

The survey from UC Berkeley's Institute of Governmental Studies finds Biden at 22 percent support. Warren and Sanders are in a statistical tie, at 18 percent and 17 percent, respectively.

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), who will need a strong showing in her home state to compete, is in fourth place with 13 percent, followed by South Bend, Ind. Mayor Pete Buttigieg at 10 percent.

California Democrats will cast ballots earlier than in previous cycles, making the most delegate-rich state in the contest a huge prize for the contenders. Voters will cast ballots on Super Tuesday, on March 3.



The UC Berkeley survey is the latest poll to find Warren rising as she seeks to overtake Sanders in the race to be the party's progressive standard bearer.

A Monmouth University survey released Wednesday of Nevada, which is the third state to vote, found Warren with a clear lead over Sanders, 19 to 13 percent. That was the first public opinion poll to find her ahead of Sanders.

Also on Wednesday, the latest straw poll from the progressive website Daily Kos found Warren surging past Sanders to open up a 34 to 25 percent lead. While that poll is not scientific, it is generally considered an indicator of where the enthusiasm lies with the liberal base.



The new UC Berkeley survey of California found that Harris is the top second choice among California voters, with 21 percent, followed by Warren at 17 percent and Biden and Sanders at 12 percent.

When you combine Warren's support among voters who called her their first or second choice, she has the most support in the entire field, followed closely by Biden, Harris and Sanders.

https://www.thehill.com/homenews/campaign/448330-warren-rises-to-second-in-california-poll%3famp
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on June 13, 2019, 12:31:58 PM
Warren rises to second in California poll


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Former Vice President Joe Biden has a small lead over the field of Democratic contenders in California, but Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is hot on his heels and has edged past Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) into second place, according to a new poll.

The survey from UC Berkeley's Institute of Governmental Studies finds Biden at 22 percent support. Warren and Sanders are in a statistical tie, at 18 percent and 17 percent, respectively.

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), who will need a strong showing in her home state to compete, is in fourth place with 13 percent, followed by South Bend, Ind. Mayor Pete Buttigieg at 10 percent.

California Democrats will cast ballots earlier than in previous cycles, making the most delegate-rich state in the contest a huge prize for the contenders. Voters will cast ballots on Super Tuesday, on March 3.



The UC Berkeley survey is the latest poll to find Warren rising as she seeks to overtake Sanders in the race to be the party's progressive standard bearer.

A Monmouth University survey released Wednesday of Nevada, which is the third state to vote, found Warren with a clear lead over Sanders, 19 to 13 percent. That was the first public opinion poll to find her ahead of Sanders.

Also on Wednesday, the latest straw poll from the progressive website Daily Kos found Warren surging past Sanders to open up a 34 to 25 percent lead. While that poll is not scientific, it is generally considered an indicator of where the enthusiasm lies with the liberal base.



The new UC Berkeley survey of California found that Harris is the top second choice among California voters, with 21 percent, followed by Warren at 17 percent and Biden and Sanders at 12 percent.

When you combine Warren's support among voters who called her their first or second choice, she has the most support in the entire field, followed closely by Biden, Harris and Sanders.

https://www.thehill.com/homenews/campaign/448330-warren-rises-to-second-in-california-poll%3famp

She will never sniff the White House.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 21, 2019, 01:03:50 PM
Just my opinion here but unless someone the caliber of Oprah throws her hat in the ring, Trump will win. America is dumbed down to reality TV. Very few fact check, will accept any information as true if it matches their beliefs. Will discard any as fake news if it doesn't. The Democrats don't have any strong personalities running, the front runner is Washington career politician in his 70's.  Oprah would excite the Democrats as someone they recognize from TV. She could campaign on becoming a billionaire without the help of Daddy and give the same type resume as Trump but without the baggage. I think Americans have moved into a phase of voting along the lines of American Idol, rather than issues. But short of an Oprah the Democrats will get their clock cleaned 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on June 21, 2019, 01:08:25 PM
Just my opinion here but unless someone the caliber of Oprah throws her hat in the ring, Trump will win. America is dumbed down to reality TV. Very few fact check, will accept any information as true if it matches their beliefs. Will discard any as fake news if it doesn't. The Democrats don't have any strong personalities running, the front runner is Washington career politician in his 70's.  Oprah would excite the Democrats as someone they recognize from TV. She could campaign on becoming a billionaire without the help of Daddy and give the same type resume as Trump but without the baggage. I think Americans have moved into a phase of voting along the lines of American Idol, rather than issues. But short of an Oprah the Democrats will get their clock cleaned 

A black lesbian for a Democratic US presidential candidate?  Promising, but she'd still lose because she's not a Muslim.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 21, 2019, 02:39:11 PM
She will never sniff the White House.

Yeah I think Trump buries her easily in the general election but I wouldn't be surprised if she makes a push at the nomination or at the very least begins to really close the gap.

Gaffe-prone Biden is already being attacked for his past record and the Democratic establishment wants nothing to do with Bernie. Plus Sanders just looks really tired and old now.

If Joe messes the bed too much I could see a scenario where they get behind Warren to avoid a Bernie nomination. Far fetched but possible.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on June 21, 2019, 04:00:55 PM
Dems will lose because they are stupid, not the public.

They can't even simply denounce right and wrong anymore.  They should have easily said Cortez was wrong for drawing the ridiculous parallels of border camps to concentration camps.  But no.

They need a moderate who is pro-America, strong on defense, liberal enough on social issues, pushing realistic education and healthcare reform.

Instead, they're pushing infanticide, socialism, reparations, calling racism, sexism, nazis, confiscating guns,  etc...….not going to win over the country as a whole, or even the necessary majority.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 21, 2019, 04:48:49 PM
Got my popcorn ready for this 2 day Democratic party debate lined up for next week. Some early thoughts.

The Good - I think Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard likely solidify their loyal followings with a good showing. Again, the Democratic establishment want little to nothing to do with either but in a field this large they will find their little niche to stand out. Both strike me as principled and steadfast/non wishy-washy in their beliefs(does that still count for something in 2019?) Particularly interested in seeing where Yang stands in a few weeks with his Universal Basic Income message. He is a bit of a dark horse, imo.

The Bad - The cheesy empty platitudes of Beto and Booker in a race to achieve ultimate cringe-worthiness.

The Ugly - Anything associated with Bill de Blasio and his bitter, pretentious, played out anti-America rants.

The Forgettable - The John Hick-a-something guy from Colorado who said socialism wasn't the answer a few weeks ago and was practically booed off stage.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on June 21, 2019, 05:47:02 PM
Just my opinion here but unless someone the caliber of Oprah throws her hat in the ring, Trump will win. America is dumbed down to reality TV. Very few fact check, will accept any information as true if it matches their beliefs. Will discard any as fake news if it doesn't. The Democrats don't have any strong personalities running, the front runner is Washington career politician in his 70's.  Oprah would excite the Democrats as someone they recognize from TV. She could campaign on becoming a billionaire without the help of Daddy and give the same type resume as Trump but without the baggage. I think Americans have moved into a phase of voting along the lines of American Idol, rather than issues. But short of an Oprah the Democrats will get their clock cleaned 
Oprah? "without the baggage"? LMAO!! ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on June 21, 2019, 07:09:29 PM
Oprah is too smart to get involved with this insane asylum.

Maybe Tom Hanks will run.  He won the Medal of Honor and also saved Private Ryan after all.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 22, 2019, 08:49:00 AM
Oprah is too smart to get involved with this insane asylum.

Maybe Tom Hanks will run.  He won the Medal of Honor and also saved Private Ryan after all.

I understand the idea of running a celebrity because this current crop is just a train wreck but at the end of the day he or she must get on stage in front of the entire world with a very confrontational alpha male who also happens to be the incumbent and has a very solid 4 year track record.

He has prosperity and peace on his side and they have some goofy tv show or Hollywood career?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 23, 2019, 08:56:19 PM
A black lesbian for a Democratic US presidential candidate?  Promising, but she'd still lose because she's not a Muslim.

Good point
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 23, 2019, 08:58:08 PM
Dems will lose because they are stupid, not the public.

They can't even simply denounce right and wrong anymore.  They should have easily said Cortez was wrong for drawing the ridiculous parallels of border camps to concentration camps.  But no.

They need a moderate who is pro-America, strong on defense, liberal enough on social issues, pushing realistic education and healthcare reform.

Instead, they're pushing infanticide, socialism, reparations, calling racism, sexism, nazis, confiscating guns,  etc...….not going to win over the country as a whole, or even the necessary majority.




And I can think of so many examples where Republicans should have called Trump out and didn't so we are back to realizing your opinion is just that. And there are many with opposing views and great examples that are just as valid as opinions
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 23, 2019, 08:59:33 PM
I understand the idea of running a celebrity because this current crop is just a train wreck but at the end of the day he or she must get on stage in front of the entire world with a very confrontational alpha male who also happens to be the incumbent and has a very solid 4 year track record.

He has prosperity and peace on his side and they have some goofy tv show or Hollywood career?

Happened 3 years ago... could happen again all except the incumbent part and that could be detrimental as there are many examples the challenger could draw on to make a case Trump is incompetent in many regards
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Princess L on June 24, 2019, 05:08:35 AM
And I can think of so many examples where Republicans should have called Trump out and didn't so we are back to realizing your opinion is just that. And there are many with opposing views and great examples that are just as valid as opinions

Happened 3 years ago... could happen again all except the incumbent part and that could be detrimental as there are many examples the challenger could draw on to make a case Trump is incompetent in many regards

Please list your top 3.  Be specific.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on June 24, 2019, 02:13:03 PM
Yeah I think Trump buries her easily in the general election but I wouldn't be surprised if she makes a push at the nomination or at the very least begins to really close the gap.

Gaffe-prone Biden is already being attacked for his past record and the Democratic establishment wants nothing to do with Bernie. Plus Sanders just looks really tired and old now.

If Joe messes the bed too much I could see a scenario where they get behind Warren to avoid a Bernie nomination. Far fetched but possible.

It's mind boggling that someone as inept as these people, openly advocating for socialism and lawlessness, could be serious presidential candidates.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on June 24, 2019, 02:14:53 PM
Dems will lose because they are stupid, not the public.

They can't even simply denounce right and wrong anymore.  They should have easily said Cortez was wrong for drawing the ridiculous parallels of border camps to concentration camps.  But no.

They need a moderate who is pro-America, strong on defense, liberal enough on social issues, pushing realistic education and healthcare reform.

Instead, they're pushing infanticide, socialism, reparations, calling racism, sexism, nazis, confiscating guns,  etc...….not going to win over the country as a whole, or even the necessary majority.


I agree with everything except the moderate part.  Obama wasn't a moderate, pro-America, strong on defense, etc.. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on June 24, 2019, 07:39:25 PM
Elizabeth Warren promises reparations for gay couples
by Ellie Bufkin
June 23, 2019

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., reintroduced a bill on the campaign trail this week, which could mean $57 million in tax refunds for married LGBT couples.

The Refund Equality Act, which was originally introduced in 2017, would allow LGBT couples who were married prior to the 2013 Supreme Court strike-down of the Defense of Marriage Act in U.S. v. Windsor to amend tax returns from the time that they were married. Prior to 2013, 10 states had legalized same-sex marriage, but were required to file their federal taxes as individuals.

Following the 2013 Supreme Court's decision, married same sex couples from those 10 states were permitted to change their previous tax returns from individual to joint, which entitled them to some federal tax relief. However, the tax return amendments were only permitted for the previous three years. The Refund Equality Act would remove those time limits.

According to a report released this week from the Joint Committee on Taxation, same sex couples married prior to 2013 could potentially be eligible for $57 million if permitted to file jointly from the time they were married.

In a statement regarding the reintroduction of the Refund Equality Act, Warren said, "The federal government forced legally married same-sex couples in Massachusetts to file as individuals and pay more in taxes for almost a decade. It is only right that we change this tax code to make it fairer for all."

Democratic Rep. Judy Chu, Calif., introduced companion legislation last week called the PRIDE Act of 2019 which would alter the federal tax code that currently prevents married couples from amending their returns beyond the previous three years. The change would apply only to same sex couples married prior to U.S. v. Wind.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/elizabeth-warren-promises-reparations-for-gay-couples
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on June 24, 2019, 08:00:27 PM
Elizabeth Warren promises reparations for gay couples
by Ellie Bufkin
June 23, 2019

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., reintroduced a bill on the campaign trail this week, which could mean $57 million in tax refunds for married LGBT couples.

The Refund Equality Act, which was originally introduced in 2017, would allow LGBT couples who were married prior to the 2013 Supreme Court strike-down of the Defense of Marriage Act in U.S. v. Windsor to amend tax returns from the time that they were married. Prior to 2013, 10 states had legalized same-sex marriage, but were required to file their federal taxes as individuals.

Following the 2013 Supreme Court's decision, married same sex couples from those 10 states were permitted to change their previous tax returns from individual to joint, which entitled them to some federal tax relief. However, the tax return amendments were only permitted for the previous three years. The Refund Equality Act would remove those time limits.

According to a report released this week from the Joint Committee on Taxation, same sex couples married prior to 2013 could potentially be eligible for $57 million if permitted to file jointly from the time they were married.

In a statement regarding the reintroduction of the Refund Equality Act, Warren said, "The federal government forced legally married same-sex couples in Massachusetts to file as individuals and pay more in taxes for almost a decade. It is only right that we change this tax code to make it fairer for all."

Democratic Rep. Judy Chu, Calif., introduced companion legislation last week called the PRIDE Act of 2019 which would alter the federal tax code that currently prevents married couples from amending their returns beyond the previous three years. The change would apply only to same sex couples married prior to U.S. v. Wind.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/elizabeth-warren-promises-reparations-for-gay-couples

Looks like the Democratic candidates are trying to one-up each other for handouts to "special" groups. So far we have heard about reparations for black people, paying back or eliminating student debt and now reparations for gay couples. What other group are they going to discover that they think should receive gifts or reparations?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 24, 2019, 08:09:00 PM
Looks like the Democratic candidates are trying to one-up each other for handouts to "special" groups. So far we have heard about reparations for black people, paying back or eliminating student debt and now reparations for gay couples. What other group are they going to discover that they think should receive gifts or reparations?


It will be an interesting election cycle. I'm not far left, and I'm not far right. But I don't think there is a candidate that speaks to the moderates yet that is under 70
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 24, 2019, 09:02:03 PM
Seriously the Dems are trying to lose. This is crazy. Reparations of any kind...buying votes by promising to forego student loans(a dog whistle for socialist revolution btw)...just crazy.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on June 24, 2019, 10:21:56 PM
Looks like the Democratic candidates are trying to one-up each other for handouts to "special" groups. So far we have heard about reparations for black people, paying back or eliminating student debt and now reparations for gay couples. What other group are they going to discover that they think should receive gifts or reparations?


You know, pretty much every cycle we talk about people being crazy.  But this time the crazy talk is real.  These people really are unhinged. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on June 25, 2019, 12:58:06 AM
Seriously the Dems are trying to lose. This is crazy. Reparations of any kind...buying votes by promising to forego student loans(a dog whistle for socialist revolution btw)...just crazy.

Reparations for the descendants of Union soldiers who died during the Civil War.
Why not?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Princess L on June 25, 2019, 05:14:40 AM
Dems won't help you afford your unsubsidized Obamacare policy, but eleven 2020 Democrats back FREE health care for illegal aliens.

(https://media.breitbart.com/media/2019/03/GettyImages-1085651212-640x480.jpg)

Here are the 2020 Democrats that backed health care for illegal immigrants:

    Sen. Michael Bennet (D-CO) said, “Undocumented immigrants should have the option of purchasing health insurance on the exchange.”
    Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) said:
        Access to quality, affordable health care is a human right. We need to make our health care system more effective and efficient, and we must pass comprehensive immigration reform that creates a pathway to citizenship for those already living in the United States.
    South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg said, “Undocumented immigrants should be able to buy coverage through the public option.”
    Julian Castro said yes, explaining:
        Undocumented immigrants pay taxes and are contributing members of our communities. I believe they should be eligible for government health care support and put on a pathway to citizenship. I look forward to putting forward a health care plan that addresses the health care gap for undocumented families.
    Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) said yes, explaining, “I support the process outlined in the Medicare for All bill, which ensures universal coverage.”
    Rep. Seth Moulton (D-MA) said yes, explaining:

        They would be allowed to buy into my public option. Under current law, hospitals in the U.S. cannot refuse to treat patients who need care. Therefore, our system already pays for health care for undocumented immigrants — usually through emergency rooms, which are the most expensive form of care.
    Sen. Bernie Sanders’ (I-VT) campaign said yes, explaining, “Medicare for All means just that: all. Bernie’s plan would provide coverage to all U.S. residents, regardless of immigration status.”
    Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) said yes, explaining, “It is in society’s interest to have everyone be as healthy as possible, and that’s achieved through access to affordable health care for everyone.”
    Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) said yes, explaining that “Health care is a basic human right.”
    Marianne Williamson said yes.
    Businessman Andrew Yang said yes, explaining, “I believe in a pathway to citizenship for all undocumented immigrants. Anyone who applied for that pathway would be eligible to buy into the Medicare for All system.”


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/23/eleven-2020-democrats-back-health-care-illegal-immigrants/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 25, 2019, 07:30:46 AM

Disgusting communists.

Dems won't help you afford your unsubsidized Obamacare policy, but eleven 2020 Democrats back FREE health care for illegal aliens.

(https://media.breitbart.com/media/2019/03/GettyImages-1085651212-640x480.jpg)

Here are the 2020 Democrats that backed health care for illegal immigrants:

    Sen. Michael Bennet (D-CO) said, “Undocumented immigrants should have the option of purchasing health insurance on the exchange.”
    Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) said:
        Access to quality, affordable health care is a human right. We need to make our health care system more effective and efficient, and we must pass comprehensive immigration reform that creates a pathway to citizenship for those already living in the United States.
    South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg said, “Undocumented immigrants should be able to buy coverage through the public option.”
    Julian Castro said yes, explaining:
        Undocumented immigrants pay taxes and are contributing members of our communities. I believe they should be eligible for government health care support and put on a pathway to citizenship. I look forward to putting forward a health care plan that addresses the health care gap for undocumented families.
    Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) said yes, explaining, “I support the process outlined in the Medicare for All bill, which ensures universal coverage.”
    Rep. Seth Moulton (D-MA) said yes, explaining:

        They would be allowed to buy into my public option. Under current law, hospitals in the U.S. cannot refuse to treat patients who need care. Therefore, our system already pays for health care for undocumented immigrants — usually through emergency rooms, which are the most expensive form of care.
    Sen. Bernie Sanders’ (I-VT) campaign said yes, explaining, “Medicare for All means just that: all. Bernie’s plan would provide coverage to all U.S. residents, regardless of immigration status.”
    Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) said yes, explaining, “It is in society’s interest to have everyone be as healthy as possible, and that’s achieved through access to affordable health care for everyone.”
    Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) said yes, explaining that “Health care is a basic human right.”
    Marianne Williamson said yes.
    Businessman Andrew Yang said yes, explaining, “I believe in a pathway to citizenship for all undocumented immigrants. Anyone who applied for that pathway would be eligible to buy into the Medicare for All system.”


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/23/eleven-2020-democrats-back-health-care-illegal-immigrants/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 25, 2019, 11:34:48 AM
Dems won't help you afford your unsubsidized Obamacare policy, but eleven 2020 Democrats back FREE health care for illegal aliens.

(https://media.breitbart.com/media/2019/03/GettyImages-1085651212-640x480.jpg)

Here are the 2020 Democrats that backed health care for illegal immigrants:

    Sen. Michael Bennet (D-CO) said, “Undocumented immigrants should have the option of purchasing health insurance on the exchange.”
    Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) said:
        Access to quality, affordable health care is a human right. We need to make our health care system more effective and efficient, and we must pass comprehensive immigration reform that creates a pathway to citizenship for those already living in the United States.
    South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg said, “Undocumented immigrants should be able to buy coverage through the public option.”
    Julian Castro said yes, explaining:
        Undocumented immigrants pay taxes and are contributing members of our communities. I believe they should be eligible for government health care support and put on a pathway to citizenship. I look forward to putting forward a health care plan that addresses the health care gap for undocumented families.
    Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) said yes, explaining, “I support the process outlined in the Medicare for All bill, which ensures universal coverage.”
    Rep. Seth Moulton (D-MA) said yes, explaining:

        They would be allowed to buy into my public option. Under current law, hospitals in the U.S. cannot refuse to treat patients who need care. Therefore, our system already pays for health care for undocumented immigrants — usually through emergency rooms, which are the most expensive form of care.
    Sen. Bernie Sanders’ (I-VT) campaign said yes, explaining, “Medicare for All means just that: all. Bernie’s plan would provide coverage to all U.S. residents, regardless of immigration status.”
    Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) said yes, explaining, “It is in society’s interest to have everyone be as healthy as possible, and that’s achieved through access to affordable health care for everyone.”
    Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) said yes, explaining that “Health care is a basic human right.”
    Marianne Williamson said yes.
    Businessman Andrew Yang said yes, explaining, “I believe in a pathway to citizenship for all undocumented immigrants. Anyone who applied for that pathway would be eligible to buy into the Medicare for All system.”


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/23/eleven-2020-democrats-back-health-care-illegal-immigrants/

The ones advocating free health care for illegals is just asinine. But those saying they should have the option to buy insurance aren't that far out there. Right now, as your article indicated, most go to the ER room for treatment, the most expensive option. If they were allowed to BUY health care insurance it would ease the burden on the tax payer. Until you can manage to expunge every illegal from our borders, it makes sense to have them pay their share. Another example is car insurance. Lots of people don't want illegals to have licenses and the ability to buy car insurance. This makes no sense to me in a world where the reality is there are illegals driving in your city or town.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 26, 2019, 10:42:28 PM
Got my popcorn ready for this 2 day Democratic party debate lined up for next week. Some early thoughts.

The Good - I think Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard likely solidify their loyal followings with a good showing. Again, the Democratic establishment want little to nothing to do with either but in a field this large they will find their little niche to stand out. Both strike me as principled and steadfast/non wishy-washy in their beliefs(does that still count for something in 2019?) Particularly interested in seeing where Yang stands in a few weeks with his Universal Basic Income message. He is a bit of a dark horse, imo.

The Bad - The cheesy empty platitudes of Beto and Booker in a race to achieve ultimate cringe-worthiness.

The Ugly - Anything associated with Bill de Blasio and his bitter, pretentious, played out anti-America rants.

The Forgettable - The John Hick-a-something guy from Colorado who said socialism wasn't the answer a few weeks ago and was practically booed off stage.

Damn I'm good.

First poll has Tulsi Gabbard as the shock winner of the first Democratic debate and Beto O'Rourke as the clear loser

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/06/27/05/15312524-0-image-a-69_1561610894410.jpg)

Tulsi Gabbard is the winner of the first Democratic debate in Miami on Wednesday, according to a Drudge Report poll.


The popular news aggregation internet site took a poll of users which asked who won the 10-candidate debate.

Surprisingly, nearly 40 per cent of those who took the survey chose the 38-year-old congresswoman from Hawaii as the runaway winner.

Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts came in second with 12.26 per cent of the vote.

John Delaney, the former congressman from Maryland, was in third place while New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio came in fourth.

House Rep. Tim Ryan, Senator Amy Klobuchar, Governor Jay Inslee, former Housing Secretary Julian Castro, former House Rep. Beto O’Rourke, and Senator Cory Booker rounded out the list.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7186581/Internet-poll-shows-Tulsi-Gabbard-hands-winner-Democratic-debate.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on June 27, 2019, 12:28:31 AM
Damn I'm good.

First poll has Tulsi Gabbard as the shock winner of the first Democratic debate and Beto O'Rourke as the clear loser

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/06/27/05/15312524-0-image-a-69_1561610894410.jpg)

Tulsi Gabbard is the winner of the first Democratic debate in Miami on Wednesday, according to a Drudge Report poll.


The popular news aggregation internet site took a poll of users which asked who won the 10-candidate debate.

Surprisingly, nearly 40 per cent of those who took the survey chose the 38-year-old congresswoman from Hawaii as the runaway winner.

Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts came in second with 12.26 per cent of the vote.

John Delaney, the former congressman from Maryland, was in third place while New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio came in fourth.

House Rep. Tim Ryan, Senator Amy Klobuchar, Governor Jay Inslee, former Housing Secretary Julian Castro, former House Rep. Beto O’Rourke, and Senator Cory Booker rounded out the list.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7186581/Internet-poll-shows-Tulsi-Gabbard-hands-winner-Democratic-debate.html

Swoop in?  Why not surf in?  ;D

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/IEUwk6KhptcUU/giphy.gif)

Not the best facial skin, but the hottest body on stage tonight.   :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 27, 2019, 12:43:19 AM


The Democratic machine will start pulling the knives out on her in short order if she begins to rise. Too much of a wild card and doesn't kiss the right(DNC approved) asses.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 27, 2019, 12:50:58 AM
BTW, I must say that I got a chuckle when I read through Trump's tweets tonight and one simply said "Boring!"(obviously in reference to the debate in progress)

I have an obligation to keep up with this stuff and provide some insight and content to the forum but I have to admit, I was looking for a noose to hang myself with about 10 minutes in.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on June 27, 2019, 01:37:57 AM
The Democratic machine will start pulling the knives out on her in short order if she begins to rise. Too much of a wild card and doesn't kiss the right(DNC approved) asses.

You know it.  

Tom Perez with his hair in rollers, smoking a cigarette, with Tulsi wondering,
"Where will the water come from?"  

(http://66.media.tumblr.com/f34d98bdf94d759667214cbf952aa20f/tumblr_mqy4rsxmjp1rgamxdo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on June 27, 2019, 05:50:42 AM
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 27, 2019, 09:43:06 AM
How about Beto busting out the high school Spanish right off the bat?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 27, 2019, 09:57:05 AM
You know it. 

Tom Perez with his hair in rollers, smoking a cigarette, with Tulsi wondering,
"Where is the water coming from?" 

(http://66.media.tumblr.com/f34d98bdf94d759667214cbf952aa20f/tumblr_mqy4rsxmjp1rgamxdo1_500.gif)

You gotta love ole Tom Perez.

In public - " AOC is the future of our party"

Behind closed doors 5 minutes later - "We gotta get this bitch out of here"
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on June 27, 2019, 09:59:15 AM
How about Beto busting out the high school Spanish right off the bat?

His Spanish is awful.  He should stop doing that.  It's embarrassing.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on June 27, 2019, 03:03:54 PM
I was terrified that Maddow was going to ask Warren a question in Iroquois.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on June 27, 2019, 04:22:23 PM
How about Beto busting out the high school Spanish right off the bat?

Has he been accused of cultural appropriation yet?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on June 28, 2019, 05:25:44 AM
His Spanish is awful.  He should stop doing that.  It's embarrassing.

You don't need to speak Spanish, just talk slower and louder.

"HOW...MUCH...TO...MOW... MY...LAWN?"
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on June 28, 2019, 06:27:13 AM
You don't need to speak Spanish, just talk slower and louder.

"HOW...MUCH...TO...MOW... MY...LAWN?"

Yup, Hispanic young men hear that a lot from mature white women.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on June 28, 2019, 06:43:11 AM
How about Beto busting out the high school Spanish right off the bat?

Question:  Did Andrew Yang bust out the Chinese?

(https://s1.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/pbr2vpNZfytiHg.GrQ3NQw--/YXBwaWQ9eW15O3c9NjQwO3E9NzU7c209MQ--/https://media-mbst-pub-ue1.s3.amazonaws.com/creatr-uploaded-images/2019-06/d5bdce10-9945-11e9-abcf-82a6b5757cf9)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 28, 2019, 08:45:40 AM
Has he been accused of cultural appropriation yet?


Real name Robert Francis O'Rourke....sounds like an Irish priest from Boston, haha.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Princess L on June 28, 2019, 09:43:59 AM

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

All Democrats just raised their hands for giving millions of illegal aliens unlimited healthcare. How about taking care of American Citizens first!? That’s the end of that race!
6:37 PM - 27 Jun 2019
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 28, 2019, 09:49:26 AM
Question:  Did Andrew Yang bust out the Chinese?

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How fitting is it that the guy who is such a huge proponent of Universal Basic Income shows up to the debate with a more kicked back casual no tie look?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on June 28, 2019, 09:53:54 AM

Real name Robert Francis O'Rourke....sounds like an Irish priest from Boston, haha.

According to Wikipedia, he is 4th generation Irish American es 4ta generación irlandés-americano.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 28, 2019, 10:35:51 AM
Andrew Yang claims his mic was turned off during debate

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Maybe his dog ate the microphone.

Presidential contender Andrew Yang, who barely chimed in during Thursday night’s debate, had an even better excuse — saying his mic was “not on” when he tried to speak.

“There were also a few times, FYI, where I just started talking, be debating like, ‘Hey, I want to add something there,’ and my mic was not on,” Yang told supporters after the Miami debate.

“And it’s this sort of thing where, it’s not like if you started talking, it takes over the [conversation]. It’s like I was talking, but nothing was happening. And it was like, ‘Oh f—.’ So that happened a bit, too,” he added.

An NBC spokesman told the The Post in a statement: “At no point during the debate was any candidate’s microphone turned off or muted.”


Yang, who has run on a platform of giving every American a guaranteed $1,000 a month, had a mere 2 minutes and 58 seconds of speaking time – the least amount of all 20 candidates who took part in two debates, according to The New York Times.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/06/28/andrew-yang-claims-his-mic-was-turned-off-during-debate/amp/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on June 28, 2019, 02:18:08 PM
Yang's $1,000/mo idea is the future actually.

After robots take over most jobs it will have to be done.

Most people will think he is crazy though at this time.  They are just not aware of what is happening with automation.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 28, 2019, 03:33:51 PM
#LetYangSpeak trends on Twitter after Yang accuses NBC of cutting his mic in debate

Calls to #LetYangSpeak began trending on Twitter Friday after presidential hopeful Andrew Yang accused NBC of muting his microphone "a few times" during Thursday night's Democratic primary debate.

Yang, a tech entrepreneur, alleged that his mic was "not on" at times during the debate as he was speaking with supporters Thursday night in Miami.

"There were also a few times, FYI, where I just started talking, being like, 'Hey, I want to add something there,' and my mic was not on," Yang claimed.

The allegation from Yang came after an analysis by The Hill showed the long-shot candidate had the least amount of speaking time of all the 20 candidates who participated in the two nights of debates that took place Wednesday and Thursday.



NBC has denied Yang's claim.

"At no point during the debate was any candidate's microphone turned off or muted," NBC said in a statement to The Hill on Friday.

Twitter users were quick to defend Yang on Friday.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/450934-letyangspeak-trends-on-twitter-after-yang-accuses-nbc-of-cutting-his-mic-in%3famp
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 28, 2019, 03:35:53 PM
I'm not a conspiracy guy or anything but something does appear to be wrong with his mic from this angle

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on June 28, 2019, 06:53:08 PM
I'm not a conspiracy guy or anything but something does appear to be wrong with his mic from this angle


I think he says "excuse me" which you can faintly hear, then he just raises his hand, not sure this proves his mic wasn't on.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Princess L on June 29, 2019, 09:33:53 AM
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On Friday morning, Harris’s campaign website was selling a black T-shirt with an imprint of the candidate as a school girl (ranging in price from $29.99 to $32.99).
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 29, 2019, 09:54:39 AM
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On Friday morning, Harris’s campaign website was selling a black T-shirt with an imprint of the candidate as a school girl (ranging in price from $29.99 to $32.99).

She just might end up taking this nomination.

Biden looks like he barely wants to be there.

Bernie has lost all his mojo and just comes across as old and cantankerous.

Butt guy is weak sauce and lacks the cajones to step up in a contentious environment.

Robert Francis has been relegated to Late Night Talk show fodder. Booker too cringy and fake.

That leaves Warren vs. Kamala and in that environment, Kamala easily pushes her around.

I am not saying it is going to happen but the recipe is certainly there.

The problem that any of these candidates will face long term is the current trend to go uber left in order to secure the nomination. Trump is watching and taking notes and will use these radical ideas against them like a sledgehammer as he get closer to election time.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on June 29, 2019, 01:25:54 PM
GOOGLE: Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Breaks Out; Most Searched Candidate In 34 States During Debate

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On Wednesday, the first Democratic debate featuring Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ), former HUD Secretary Julián Castro, Rep. Tim Ryan (D-OH), former Rep. John Delaney (D-MD), Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI), former Rep. Beto O’Rourke, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, and Washington State Governor Jay Inslee, aired on NBC and MSNBC.

As the debate heated up, Google announced that one candidate was generating a stunning surge of interest. The search and data giant sent out a tweet during the Miami debate showing that Rep. Tulsi Gabbard was the most searched candidate in 34 states. Prior to taking the stage, Gabbard held that title only in her home state of Hawaii.


In second place was Sen. Cory Booker, who was the most searched candidate in 15 states. Only in Oklahoma was Sen. Elizabeth Warren the most searched.


​While Gabbard wasn’t offered great deal of speaking time during the debate, it appears she made an impression.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailywire.com/news/48952/google-rep-tulsi-gabbard-breaks-out-most-searched-frank-camp%3famp
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on July 02, 2019, 12:49:43 AM
Yang's $1,000/mo idea is the future actually.

After robots take over most jobs it will have to be done.

Most people will think he is crazy though at this time.  They are just not aware of what is happening with automation.



I agree.  As great as technology is or can be, it is also a detriment to having enough good jobs for society. 

My department was at one time 12 people with basically unlimited overtime.  We are now at 6 with essentially zero overtime. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on July 02, 2019, 06:52:59 AM
CNN Poll: Harris and Warren rise and Biden slides after first Democratic debates

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WASHINGTON (CNN) — Sens. Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren have made steep gains after the first Democratic presidential debate, a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS. shows, with former Vice President Joe Biden's lead over the field shrinking to a narrow 5 points.

The results indicate a significant tightening in the race for the Democratic nomination.

The poll, conducted after the two-night debate, finds 22% of registered voters who are Democrats or Democratic-leaning independents backing Biden for the party's presidential nomination, 17% Harris, 15% Warren and 14% Sen. Bernie Sanders. No one else in the 23-person field tested hits 5%.

That represents a 10-point decline in support for Biden since the last CNN poll in May, while Harris, of California, has posted a 9-point increase, and Warren, of Massachusetts, has boosted her support by 8 points. No other candidates have seen significant movement since the last poll.

Harris' numbers follow a strong showing on the second night of the debates. Among those who watched or followed news coverage about them, 41% say Harris did the best job in the debates, well ahead of the 13% who say Warren had the best performance and 10% who said Biden did. Among those who say they watched all or most of at least one night of debates, Harris' showing is even stronger: 46% say she did the best job, 19% Warren, 8% Biden and 5% each named South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg and former secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julian Castro.

And 30% of potential Democratic voters now say Harris is the candidate they most want to hear more about, up from 23% who said the same in April. That figure doesn't include those who say she is their top choice for nominee.

Warren was the lone polling heavyweight on the stage in the first night of the Democratic debates on Wednesday. She turned in a solid performance that served as an introduction to a national audience who may have been hearing from many candidates for the first time.

On Thursday night, Harris and Biden shared the debate stage and faced off in one of the most memorable moments of either night. Harris asked Biden directly about his opposition to federally mandated busing as a means to integrate public schools in the 1970s, and about his comments on working with segregationist politicians during his time in the Senate. The move appears to have worked in her favor.

Harris and Biden are now about even in support among self-identified Democrats, white voters, younger voters, nonwhite women and those who tuned in to watch the debates. She outpaces him significantly among liberals and whites with college degrees. Warren challenges Biden and Sanders among independents, tops Biden and runs even with Harris and Sanders among liberals, and earns similar numbers to Harris among younger voters, whites and whites with college degrees.

Biden's strongest support continues to come among black voters (36% back Biden, 24% Harris, 12% Warren and 9% Sanders) and older voters (34% of seniors back Biden vs. 14% for Harris, 12% for Warren and just 7% for Sanders). He also tops 30% among more moderate and conservative Democratic voters (31% back him vs. 11% Harris, 10% Warren and 8% Sanders).

Biden tops the rest of the field by a wide margin as the candidate potential Democratic voters see as having the best shot to beat President Donald Trump.

Overall, 43% of potential Democratic voters say Biden has the best chance to beat Trump in 2020, 30 points ahead of his nearest competitor, Bernie Sanders. Further, 6 in 10 potential Democratic voters say it is more important to them that the party nominate a candidate with a strong chance of beating Trump than it is that they nominate someone who shares their views on major issues.

But those voters who prefer a strong shot at beating Trump aren't necessarily committed to Biden: 23% in that group say he's their choice for nominee, with Harris and Warren close behind at 18% each and Sanders the only other candidate in double digits at 10%.

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/07/01/politics/2020-democratic-candidates-poll/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.drudgereport.com%2F
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 02, 2019, 09:16:08 AM
Yang's $1,000/mo idea is the future actually.

After robots take over most jobs it will have to be done.

Most people will think he is crazy though at this time.  They are just not aware of what is happening with automation.





Yes, this very low standard of living is coming for 95% of the USA after the inevitable financial reset. The more life is virtual for people the less they notice they are losing everything real that future generations had.

All this political stuff is for show to manage the decline. More boiling frog action going on, where the futurist is dropping hints but sounds like a kook because people have no vision.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on July 02, 2019, 11:01:28 AM
On edge: 2020 Dems face prospect of being cut from debates

Short on support and money and bound by tough party rules, once soaring politicians may soon be seen as also-rans. They include Julian Castro, who is seeking to capitalize on his strong debate performance last week; Kirsten Gillibrand, one of her party's most outspoken feminists; and Cory Booker, who rose to stardom as the energetic mayor of Newark, New Jersey.

A difficult period lies ahead as the party begins to sort through its expansive roster of candidates. The process will help Democrats zero in on someone to challenge President Donald Trump. But it is also forcing candidates to burn through cash to stay competitive and could result in a field that's older, whiter and more male — an uncomfortable development for a party that says it prizes diversity.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/edge-2020-dems-face-prospect-041238135.html


Trump and GOP Report $105 Million Haul in Second Quarter

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President Donald Trump’s re-election campaign and the Republican National Committee raised $105 million during the second quarter of the year and had $100 million cash on hand, Trump’s campaign manager said Tuesday, an ominous sign for Democrats in a crowded field of contenders seeking to challenge him in the general election.

“Eye-popping numbers,” the campaign’s communications director Tim Murtaugh said in a tweet. “Shows the incredible strength of support for the President, his policies and successes.”

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-gop-report-105-million-120252727.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on July 03, 2019, 05:12:30 AM
Democrats’ Leftward Turn Was a Reaction to Hillary Clinton

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It wasn’t so much that Trump was the one person who could beat Clinton, but that she was the one candidate he could beat. In other words, it was only thanks to the fact that she was so unpopular that Trump had a chance. Trump-reluctant Republicans and independents could be persuaded that he was better than Clinton — when presented with a binary choice.

The latter seems vastly more plausible for the simple reason that Trump didn’t have to convince those voters that Clinton was unlikable and a little scary; he simply had to exploit their pre-existing opinion of her. Indeed, Trump’s continued obsession with bashing Clinton points to how central she is to his identity.

This has consequences for 2020 because the White House’s entire strategy boils down to making Trump’s opponent more unlikable than he is. If Trump wasn’t responsible for Hillary’s unfavorable numbers in the first place, it remains to be seen whether he can Hillaryize another Democrat.

It may not be all that hard, though, because the Democrats are doing everything they can to keep the Flight 93 panic alive on the right. They’re doing this by running so far to the left that many Trump-skeptical Republicans feel as if they have no choice but to vote for him again. (I hear this from my fellow conservatives every day.) Democratic candidates have openly praised socialism, the Green New Deal, the abolition of private insurance, voting rights for incarcerated felons, federal funding of abortion late into pregnancy, confiscatory “wealth taxes,” and even the right to sex-change operations paid for by taxpayers.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-leftward-turn-reaction-hillary-103019537.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 03, 2019, 10:02:00 AM
All trump has to run over and over and over and over again are those democrat garbage pales raising their hand to provide health care to illegals. 

Democrats’ Leftward Turn Was a Reaction to Hillary Clinton

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It wasn’t so much that Trump was the one person who could beat Clinton, but that she was the one candidate he could beat. In other words, it was only thanks to the fact that she was so unpopular that Trump had a chance. Trump-reluctant Republicans and independents could be persuaded that he was better than Clinton — when presented with a binary choice.

The latter seems vastly more plausible for the simple reason that Trump didn’t have to convince those voters that Clinton was unlikable and a little scary; he simply had to exploit their pre-existing opinion of her. Indeed, Trump’s continued obsession with bashing Clinton points to how central she is to his identity.

This has consequences for 2020 because the White House’s entire strategy boils down to making Trump’s opponent more unlikable than he is. If Trump wasn’t responsible for Hillary’s unfavorable numbers in the first place, it remains to be seen whether he can Hillaryize another Democrat.

It may not be all that hard, though, because the Democrats are doing everything they can to keep the Flight 93 panic alive on the right. They’re doing this by running so far to the left that many Trump-skeptical Republicans feel as if they have no choice but to vote for him again. (I hear this from my fellow conservatives every day.) Democratic candidates have openly praised socialism, the Green New Deal, the abolition of private insurance, voting rights for incarcerated felons, federal funding of abortion late into pregnancy, confiscatory “wealth taxes,” and even the right to sex-change operations paid for by taxpayers.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-leftward-turn-reaction-hillary-103019537.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 07, 2019, 10:19:42 AM
Howard Schultz from Starbucks probably kicking himself right now. He would have easily been top of this field. He should of just said "i'm a capitalist...it's a free country, people can pay $5 for a coffee if they want". Couldn't take even a taste of the heat in the early going.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on July 08, 2019, 05:13:22 PM
And the mean IQ of the remaining candidates increases by about 50 points.

Eric Swalwell Becomes First Democrat to Drop Out of Presidential Race
JOSHUA CAPLAN8 Jul 2019
Ryan Brooks
✔ @ByRyanBrooks
 “Today ends our campaign,” Rep. Eric Swalwell says at an afternoon presser in California. Exactly three months to after he launched his campaign back in April.

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“Being honest with ourselves, we had to look at how much money we were raising, where we were in the polls,” Swalwell said at his campaign headquarters, before claiming that he “moved the needle on the debate stage with an issue I was very passionate about.”

“So we’ve achieved that,’” he said in reference to gun control measures. “But we have to be honest about our own candidacy’s viability.”

Eric Swalwell

@ericswalwell
 I want thank my supporters & friends, my staff, & my family for making this journey possible. I’ll never forget the people I met & lessons I learned while traveling around our great nation. Though our campaign is ending our mission to end gun violence is just beginning...

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Swalwell’s pro-gun control platform failed to gain traction, despite several aggressive policy promises, including a ban on AR-15s. The California Democrat’s repeated attacks on the National Rifle Association (NRA), though cheered by gun control activists, did little to boost his lagging candidacy.

“On the issue of gun violence, I am the champion who is saying enough is enough, and that has to be a top priority. We can’t just respond to the last mass shooting. I want to challenge our candidates to make it a priority too,” Swalwell told The Hill in an interview last month.

Throughout the course of his short-lived campaign, the congressman also attempted to position himself as a young alternative to ex-Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), urging the former to “pass the torch” during the first round of Democrat debates in Miami, Flordia.

“If we are going to solve the issue, pass the torch. If we are going to solve climate chaos, pass the torch. If we want to end gun violence and solve student debt, pass the torch,” said Swalwell to a collective gasp from the audience.

A defiant Biden hit back at the lawmaker, declaring: “I’m holding onto that torch. I want to make it clear.”

Swalwell will run for re-election for his congressional seat in the 15th District of California but faces a potentially fierce primary fight from Hayward councilmember Aisha Wahab.

The lawmaker’s departure from the race comes amid reports that left-wing billionaire and climate change crusader Tom Steyer is readying a campaign of his own.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/08/eric-swalwell-becomes-first-democrat-to-drop-out-of-presidential-race/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on July 08, 2019, 06:22:11 PM
Dude is a flat out idiot. Good riddance!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: mazrim on July 08, 2019, 06:39:40 PM
He'll be back on Tucker's show soon enough so we can look forward to him continuing his brilliance.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on July 09, 2019, 01:13:55 AM
And the mean IQ of the remaining candidates increases by about 50 points.

Eric Swalwell Becomes First Democrat to Drop Out of Presidential Race
JOSHUA CAPLAN8 Jul 2019
Ryan Brooks
✔ @ByRyanBrooks
 “Today ends our campaign,” Rep. Eric Swalwell says at an afternoon presser in California. Exactly three months to after he launched his campaign back in April.

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10:11 AM - Jul 8, 2019
19 people are talking about this
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“Being honest with ourselves, we had to look at how much money we were raising, where we were in the polls,” Swalwell said at his campaign headquarters, before claiming that he “moved the needle on the debate stage with an issue I was very passionate about.”

“So we’ve achieved that,’” he said in reference to gun control measures. “But we have to be honest about our own candidacy’s viability.”

Eric Swalwell

@ericswalwell
 I want thank my supporters & friends, my staff, & my family for making this journey possible. I’ll never forget the people I met & lessons I learned while traveling around our great nation. Though our campaign is ending our mission to end gun violence is just beginning...

11.9K
10:15 AM - Jul 8, 2019
5,395 people are talking about this
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Swalwell’s pro-gun control platform failed to gain traction, despite several aggressive policy promises, including a ban on AR-15s. The California Democrat’s repeated attacks on the National Rifle Association (NRA), though cheered by gun control activists, did little to boost his lagging candidacy.

“On the issue of gun violence, I am the champion who is saying enough is enough, and that has to be a top priority. We can’t just respond to the last mass shooting. I want to challenge our candidates to make it a priority too,” Swalwell told The Hill in an interview last month.

Throughout the course of his short-lived campaign, the congressman also attempted to position himself as a young alternative to ex-Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), urging the former to “pass the torch” during the first round of Democrat debates in Miami, Flordia.

“If we are going to solve the issue, pass the torch. If we are going to solve climate chaos, pass the torch. If we want to end gun violence and solve student debt, pass the torch,” said Swalwell to a collective gasp from the audience.

A defiant Biden hit back at the lawmaker, declaring: “I’m holding onto that torch. I want to make it clear.”

Swalwell will run for re-election for his congressional seat in the 15th District of California but faces a potentially fierce primary fight from Hayward councilmember Aisha Wahab.

The lawmaker’s departure from the race comes amid reports that left-wing billionaire and climate change crusader Tom Steyer is readying a campaign of his own.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/08/eric-swalwell-becomes-first-democrat-to-drop-out-of-presidential-race/

“And the mean IQ of the remaining candidates increases by about 50 points”

Can you prove that ?
Please post evidence of that

And What does IQ have to do with Anything ?

 ;)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on July 10, 2019, 04:39:47 PM
“And the mean IQ of the remaining candidates increases by about 50 points”

Can you prove that ?
Please post evidence of that

And What does IQ have to do with Anything ?

 ;)

 :)

tongue-in-cheek adjective
Definition of tongue-in-cheek (Entry 1 of 2)
: characterized by insincerity, irony, or whimsical exaggeration

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tongue-in-cheek
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on July 10, 2019, 09:40:14 PM
How far left is the Democratic party going to continue to go?

Bernie is starting to look like a milquetoast center right neo-con in comparison.

Internet darling Mike Gravel might make the next presidential debate

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Last month, Democrats had an unheralded, unheard-of candidate become the breakout meme star of the 2020 debates. Marianne Williamson took the internet by storm with her new-age philosophies and old, incoherent tweets.


It looks like that might happen again, as another internet darling is closing in on the benchmarks need to make the second round of the Democratic debate: The man whose campaign is run by meme teens.

Mike Gravel entered the 2020 race on the advice of some teens who heard about him on politics podcast Chapo Trap House and has become a bit of a sensation as he’s savaged everyone with highly relatable tweets about Pokémon Go.

Now, he’s announced he’s close to reaching the 65,000-donor milestone needed to make the next debate, July 30 and 31, in Detroit.

Gravel got a recent bump when Williamson sent out a fundraising email to help him out, noting that peace-loving candidates needed to support each other. He has been polling at 1%, the required threshold for the debate.

Gravel has promised not to actually seek the nomination for president, but only to join the debates to help challenge centrist candidates and move the party leftward.

The lineup for the debates will be announced on July 17.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailydot.com/layer8/mike-gravel-second-democratic-debate/%3famp
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on July 10, 2019, 11:48:36 PM
Joe Biden Isn’t The Overwhelming 2020 Democratic Front-Runner Anymore
The former vice president still leads in the polls, but he’s increasingly challenged by a trio of other top-tier candidates.
By Ariel Edwards-Levy
POLITICS 07/09/2019
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-2020-polls-front-runner_n_5d2508eee4b07e698c42435a
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on July 11, 2019, 12:07:36 AM
Joe Biden Isn’t The Overwhelming 2020 Democratic Front-Runner Anymore
The former vice president still leads in the polls, but he’s increasingly challenged by a trio of other top-tier candidates.
By Ariel Edwards-Levy
POLITICS 07/09/2019
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-2020-polls-front-runner_n_5d2508eee4b07e698c42435a

This is good news for the Donald.  Biden is his biggest threat.  Bernie would still be my choice but he said a really stupid thing about prisoners voting which will negate his chances among old white men.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on July 11, 2019, 02:10:29 AM
:)

tongue-in-cheek adjective
Definition of tongue-in-cheek (Entry 1 of 2)
: characterized by insincerity, irony, or whimsical exaggeration

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tongue-in-cheek


Weak answer
So your not able to provide the proof / evidence  ::)
I thought so.

Yet you’re quick to ask it of Myself
Apply you’re own rules to yourself
Otherwise you become a hypocrite

Post More - I’m waiting

 ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on July 11, 2019, 11:09:39 AM
This is good news for the Donald.  Biden is his biggest threat.  Bernie would still be my choice but he said a really stupid thing about prisoners voting which will negate his chances among old white men.
You're not concerned with having to pay off someone else's college degree if Bernie wins? Prisoners voting is the stupid thing?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on July 11, 2019, 11:20:26 AM

Weak answer
So your not able to provide the proof / evidence  ::)
I thought so.

Yet you’re quick to ask it of Myself
Apply you’re own rules to yourself
Otherwise you become a hypocrite

Post More - I’m waiting

 ;D

If you cannot understand tongue in cheek, even after I posted the definition and a link for further reading, then I cannot help you. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on July 11, 2019, 11:30:57 AM
If you cannot understand tongue in cheek, even after I posted the definition and a link for further reading, then I cannot help you. 

The Last thing I need is Help from You.
No worries I’ll keep an eye out that you’ve got all the correct facts
And can Back up what you say with the relevant statistical breakdown when required
& you’re able to Post it as it’s only what you Expect of others.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on July 11, 2019, 11:41:49 AM
The Last thing I need is Help from You.
No worries I’ll keep an eye out that you’ve got all the correct facts
And can Back up what you say with the relevant statistical breakdown when required
& you’re able to Post it as it’s only what you Expect of others.

I am here to help.   :)

Here is another example of tongue in cheek, from an article I just posted in the Russia conspiracy thread:

"CNN was very excited about this," Carlson noted, playing a clip of the network showing the illustrations, and asking former Secret Service agent Dan Bongino whether he's read the cartoon version.

"No, because I don't want to lose neurons and about 20 IQ points by reading this kind of imbecility," he joked, asking whether the cartoons depicted Trump allowing then-White House counsel Don McGahn to testify for 30 hours to Mueller's team.



Bongino didn't mean he was literally going to lose 20 IQ points.  This is different from saying, as a matter of fact, that members of one ethnic group have a higher IQ than another.  It doesn't plug the gaping holes in your theory. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on July 11, 2019, 12:06:37 PM
This is good news for the Donald.  Biden is his biggest threat.  Bernie would still be my choice but he said a really stupid thing about prisoners voting which will negate his chances among old white men.

Pretty much everything Bernie says is stupid. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on July 12, 2019, 03:57:34 PM
Pretty much everything Bernie says is stupid. 

Triggered.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on July 15, 2019, 07:33:32 PM
BIDEN SUPPORT SLIPS BELOW 30 PERCENT IN NEW POLL


(https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/hillharrisx_2020_dem_pref_20190715.png)



Former Vice President Joe Biden's support in the latest Hill-HarrisX poll of Democratic voters has fallen below 30 percent, his lowest mark in the survey so far.

The poll, released on Monday, found that 29 percent of likely Democratic primary voters support Biden as their first choice for president, while 16 percent back Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

This marks a 4-point drop for Biden from an identical poll conducted two weeks ago and immediately following the first 2020 Democratic debates. It also represents a 17-point drop from when same poll was first conducted in May, a month after Biden formally launched his campaign bid.



Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) retained their spots, with Harris getting 11 percent and Warren trailing close behind at 9 percent.

South Bend, Ind. Mayor Pete Buttigieg, who ranked as high as third place at one earlier poll, slipped to sixth place, garnering just 1 percent of support.

Former Texas Congressman Beto O'Rourke, who has been lagging in national polls over the last few months, notched up 2 points to 3 percent.

A large number of respondents, 17 percent, were undecided.

The poll can be viewed as another setback for Biden, whose campaign has been grappling with attacks on his civil rights record in recent weeks.

Harris and Biden went head-to-head last month on the second night of the first Democratic presidential debates, where she confronted him on his past comments about working with segregationists senators and his past opposition to school busing.

The California senator saw a bump in a number of polls — including the Hill’s own Hill-HarrisX survey — following the confrontation.

Yet the poll continues to show Biden with a double digit lead over Sanders, and he has more than twice the support of Harris and more than three times the support of Warren to this point.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/453142-biden-slips-below-30-percent-among-2020-democrats
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on July 15, 2019, 07:35:15 PM
He will be 90 years old in May.


Gravel meets donor threshold to qualify for Democratic primary debate

(https://bc.marfeel.com/statics/i/ps/twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2014/12/31/mike-gravel_c0-3-640-376_s885x516.jpg?fa3dc9ff5ff190e96aa4bf9114ca49d74ffaa344)



Former U.S. senator Mike Gravel started the second phase of his Democratic presidential campaign Saturday after meeting one of the qualifications needed to appear on the debate stage.

Activists campaigning for Mr. Gravel planned to begin pressuring the Democratic National Committee to include the octogenarian in an upcoming debate after receiving contributions from 65,000 unique donors as of Friday, clearing a DNC-imposed threshold to qualify days since nearly throwing in the towel.


“Now that we have reached the requisite number of donors, it is up to the DNC to show their commitment to a fair and open nominating process and include Sen. Gravel in the July debate,” said David Oks, Mr. Gravel’s campaign manager.

The Alaska Democrat has failed to meet another qualification needed to participate in an official Democratic Party presidential debate, however. In addition to receiving 65,000 unique donations, the DNC requires candidates to poll at 1% or above three DNC-approved polls.

“The campaign has retained counsel and is currently in talks with the DNC over the validity of the polling method of qualification, given that well over half of DNC’s approved polls methodically and consistently excluded Sen. Gravel despite the campaign’s documented, repeated outreach to both pollsters and the DNC for inclusion,” said Mr. Oks.

“If the DNC were to exclude us, the campaign is also developing contingency plans that would allow us to spread our vital message,” he added. “We kept our receipts, we have retained legal counsel. Our goal in this campaign has always been to shift the conversation, and we will persist in doing so.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/13/mike-gravel-2020-candidate-meets-donor-threshold-n/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 15, 2019, 08:37:45 PM
Finally somebody to make Sleepy Joe look youthful. Brilliant.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on July 16, 2019, 05:21:10 AM
The Last thing I need is Help from You.
No worries I’ll keep an eye out that you’ve got all the correct facts
And can Back up what you say with the relevant statistical breakdown when required
& you’re able to Post it as it’s only what you Expect of others.

No following this at all.

He was saying that Swalwell was so stupid, once he was removed from the group of candidates, the remaining group as a whole gets smarter by default.

It was a joke about Swalwell's stupidity.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on July 16, 2019, 07:27:59 AM
Swalwell was a total douchebag in the debate.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on July 16, 2019, 12:39:56 PM
 :)

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on July 16, 2019, 02:15:07 PM
"Pass the torch!  Pass the torch!"

Douchebag.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on July 16, 2019, 02:39:02 PM
"Pass the torch!  Pass the torch!"

Douchebag.

lol.  This is the same person who, with a straight face, called Trump a Russian agent. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on July 16, 2019, 07:55:00 PM
BIDEN SUPPORT SLIPS BELOW 30 PERCENT IN NEW POLL


(https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/hillharrisx_2020_dem_pref_20190715.png)



Former Vice President Joe Biden's support in the latest Hill-HarrisX poll of Democratic voters has fallen below 30 percent, his lowest mark in the survey so far.

The poll, released on Monday, found that 29 percent of likely Democratic primary voters support Biden as their first choice for president, while 16 percent back Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

This marks a 4-point drop for Biden from an identical poll conducted two weeks ago and immediately following the first 2020 Democratic debates. It also represents a 17-point drop from when same poll was first conducted in May, a month after Biden formally launched his campaign bid.



Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) retained their spots, with Harris getting 11 percent and Warren trailing close behind at 9 percent.

South Bend, Ind. Mayor Pete Buttigieg, who ranked as high as third place at one earlier poll, slipped to sixth place, garnering just 1 percent of support.

Former Texas Congressman Beto O'Rourke, who has been lagging in national polls over the last few months, notched up 2 points to 3 percent.

A large number of respondents, 17 percent, were undecided.

The poll can be viewed as another setback for Biden, whose campaign has been grappling with attacks on his civil rights record in recent weeks.

Harris and Biden went head-to-head last month on the second night of the first Democratic presidential debates, where she confronted him on his past comments about working with segregationists senators and his past opposition to school busing.

The California senator saw a bump in a number of polls — including the Hill’s own Hill-HarrisX survey — following the confrontation.

Yet the poll continues to show Biden with a double digit lead over Sanders, and he has more than twice the support of Harris and more than three times the support of Warren to this point.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/453142-biden-slips-below-30-percent-among-2020-democrats

Biden/Sanders 2020?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 16, 2019, 07:59:02 PM
I don't see how Biden even finds a moderate running mate. Bernie will not be a good match.

This is all supposing they would allow two old white guys, which they will not.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on July 16, 2019, 08:16:22 PM
BIDEN SUPPORT SLIPS BELOW 30 PERCENT IN NEW POLL


(https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/hillharrisx_2020_dem_pref_20190715.png)



Former Vice President Joe Biden's support in the latest Hill-HarrisX poll of Democratic voters has fallen below 30 percent, his lowest mark in the survey so far.

The poll, released on Monday, found that 29 percent of likely Democratic primary voters support Biden as their first choice for president, while 16 percent back Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

This marks a 4-point drop for Biden from an identical poll conducted two weeks ago and immediately following the first 2020 Democratic debates. It also represents a 17-point drop from when same poll was first conducted in May, a month after Biden formally launched his campaign bid.



Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) retained their spots, with Harris getting 11 percent and Warren trailing close behind at 9 percent.

South Bend, Ind. Mayor Pete Buttigieg, who ranked as high as third place at one earlier poll, slipped to sixth place, garnering just 1 percent of support.

Former Texas Congressman Beto O'Rourke, who has been lagging in national polls over the last few months, notched up 2 points to 3 percent.

A large number of respondents, 17 percent, were undecided.

The poll can be viewed as another setback for Biden, whose campaign has been grappling with attacks on his civil rights record in recent weeks.

Harris and Biden went head-to-head last month on the second night of the first Democratic presidential debates, where she confronted him on his past comments about working with segregationists senators and his past opposition to school busing.

The California senator saw a bump in a number of polls — including the Hill’s own Hill-HarrisX survey — following the confrontation.

Yet the poll continues to show Biden with a double digit lead over Sanders, and he has more than twice the support of Harris and more than three times the support of Warren to this point.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/453142-biden-slips-below-30-percent-among-2020-democrats


IIRC, Giuliani was in the lead among Republican at this point in 2007.  Lots of time for lots to happen.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on July 23, 2019, 09:43:37 AM
Cory Booker on Donald Trump: 'My testosterone sometimes makes me want to feel like punching him'
By Andrew Blake - The Washington Times - Tuesday, July 23, 2019

White House hopeful Sen Cory Booker described President Trump on Monday as an “elderly, out of shape man” and “physically weak specimen” who he occasionally feels like assaulting.

Mr. Booker, New Jersey Democrat, made the remarks while speaking about civility in politics with “Late Night” host Seth Meyers on NBC.

Recalling a recent campaign event in Iowa, Mr. Booker said that he spoke with a former football player who had encouraged him to hit the president.

“He’s a big guy, he puts his arm around me and goes, ‘Dude, I want you to punch Donald Trump in the face,’” Mr. Booker said. “And I stop in my tracks and I go, ‘Dude, that’s a felony, man.’”

“Donald Trump is a guy who you understand he hurts you, and my testosterone sometimes makes me want to feel like punching him, which would be bad for this elderly out-of-shape man that he is if I did that,” Mr. Booker said with a smile as studio audience members started applauding. “This physically weak specimen.”

Mr. Booker quickly changed course and said he would not stoop to bullying the president, however.

“That’s his tactics,” said Mr. Booker. “And you don’t beat a bully like him fighting him on his tactics, on his terms, using his turf. He’s the body-shamer, he’s the guy that tries to drag people in the gutter.”

“We will not beat Donald Trump by trying to be more likely him, but by showing that we are not like him. We are not weak morally. We are not weak mentally. We are a strong nation,” said Mr. Booker.

The mayor of Newark from 2006 to 2013, Mr. Booker has represented New Jersey on Capitol Hill for nearly six years and is among a handful of senators currently vying for the Democratic Party nomination to compete against Mr. Trump in 2020.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/23/cory-booker-on-donald-trump-my-testosterone-someti/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on July 23, 2019, 10:29:55 AM
Booker better head down to the TRT clinic for a boost.

Crazy eyed dude.  Looks insane.

(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/gettyimages-1027710910.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1200)

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on July 23, 2019, 05:52:26 PM
Cory Booker on Donald Trump: 'My testosterone sometimes makes me want to feel like punching him'
By Andrew Blake - The Washington Times - Tuesday, July 23, 2019

White House hopeful Sen Cory Booker described President Trump on Monday as an “elderly, out of shape man” and “physically weak specimen” who he occasionally feels like assaulting.

Mr. Booker, New Jersey Democrat, made the remarks while speaking about civility in politics with “Late Night” host Seth Meyers on NBC.

Recalling a recent campaign event in Iowa, Mr. Booker said that he spoke with a former football player who had encouraged him to hit the president.

“He’s a big guy, he puts his arm around me and goes, ‘Dude, I want you to punch Donald Trump in the face,’” Mr. Booker said. “And I stop in my tracks and I go, ‘Dude, that’s a felony, man.’”

“Donald Trump is a guy who you understand he hurts you, and my testosterone sometimes makes me want to feel like punching him, which would be bad for this elderly out-of-shape man that he is if I did that,” Mr. Booker said with a smile as studio audience members started applauding. “This physically weak specimen.”

Mr. Booker quickly changed course and said he would not stoop to bullying the president, however.

“That’s his tactics,” said Mr. Booker. “And you don’t beat a bully like him fighting him on his tactics, on his terms, using his turf. He’s the body-shamer, he’s the guy that tries to drag people in the gutter.”

“We will not beat Donald Trump by trying to be more likely him, but by showing that we are not like him. We are not weak morally. We are not weak mentally. We are a strong nation,” said Mr. Booker.

The mayor of Newark from 2006 to 2013, Mr. Booker has represented New Jersey on Capitol Hill for nearly six years and is among a handful of senators currently vying for the Democratic Party nomination to compete against Mr. Trump in 2020.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/23/cory-booker-on-donald-trump-my-testosterone-someti/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork
How many liberals have now threatened the President?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: mazrim on July 23, 2019, 06:28:39 PM
Maybe Trump should have said he wanted to punch the four women instead.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 23, 2019, 10:59:21 PM
Almost no coverage of the primary. Snoozefest.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on July 24, 2019, 01:13:44 PM
How many liberals have now threatened the President?

Exactly - The Libturd Leftists Would Be Crying & Screaming if He threatened to hit them.
Fcuking Hypocritical Bunch of Deranged Twats.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on July 24, 2019, 11:46:00 PM
Almost no coverage of the primary. Snoozefest.

The earliest primary elections begin in March 2020. Although candidates are campaigning already, it's a crap shoot for awhile yet.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 24, 2019, 11:57:59 PM
The earliest primary elections begin in March 2020. Although candidates are campaigning already, it's a crap shoot for awhile yet.


Sometimes choosing the right words is everything.  :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on July 25, 2019, 08:28:03 PM
Biden holds wide lead in South Carolina: poll

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Former Vice President Joe Biden trounces his competition in South Carolina, carrying a 27-point lead over his closest rival in the Democratic presidential race, Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), according to a survey from Monmouth University Poll released Thursday.

The poll, Monmouth's first in South Carolina of the 2020 election cycle, shows Biden with the support of 39 percent of likely Democratic primary voters in the Palmetto State.

Biden is followed by Harris at 12 percent, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) at 10 percent, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) at 9 percent and South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg at 5 percent.

Only two other candidates - Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) and billionaire philanthropist Tom Steyer - took more than 1 percent in the survey, coming in with 2 percent support each.

Among black voters, who make up more than 60 percent of the Democratic primary electorate in South Carolina, Biden clocks in with 51 percent support. That's more than four times higher than the 12 percent of black voters that said they back Harris, and more than five times higher than the 10 percent that support Sanders.

"Black Democrats tend to be more moderate than white primary voters. Biden is the best known candidate currently occupying that lane," Patrick Murray, the director of the Monmouth University Polling Institute, said.

South Carolina will be the fourth state to hold its Democratic nominating contest in 2020, and the first state in which black voters make up a majority of the primary electorate. A win there is also seen as crucial, because it is the last early state to hold a primary before Super Tuesday, when voters in more than a dozen states will head to the polls.



The Monmouth poll surveyed 405 likely Democratic primary voters in South Carolina from July 18-22. The survey has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.9 percentage points.

https://www.thehill.com/homenews/campaign/454731-biden-holds-wide-lead-in-south-carolina-poll%3famp
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 25, 2019, 09:10:20 PM
Biden got dat dere plastic surgery.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on July 26, 2019, 07:38:25 AM
Gillibrand Releases Her $10 Trillion Climate Plan Including ‘Immediate Action To Enact The Green New Deal’

(https://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/kirsten-gillibrand-e1564060237102.jpg)


Democratic presidential candidate Kirsten Gillibrand released her climate plan Thursday, which includes “immediate action to enact the Green New Deal.”

“Saving our planet should be this generation’s moonshot,” the New York senator said in her plan, which included a lot of “I will” but not a lot of “how.”


If she secures the presidency, Gillibrand said she would:

Spend $10 trillion in public and private money to achieve net-zero carbon and other greenhouse gas emissions within a decade.

Implement the progressive New York Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal.

Make federal infrastructure projects “buy clean” to cut “reliance on carbon-intensive products.”

Charge a fossil fuel production excise tax to feed into a Climate Change Mitigation Trust Fund.


Gillibrand’s plan also focused on the U.S.’s economic competition with China, the country responsible for the most CO2 emissions compared to the rest of the world. She compared her plan to the original moonshot and challenged China to “a 21st-century clean energy ‘space race,’ where we decarbonize our economies through innovation and investment at a scale that rises to meet the global challenge we face.”


At the same time, Gillibrand said she would make sure clean tech is made by Americans and “not by China or another competitor” with a cross-government initiative requiring products like solar cells to be made in the U.S.

Gillibrand’s climate plan launch comes as many other Democratic candidates try to make waves with their big proposals. South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg introduced a national service plan while former Vice President Joe Biden published a health care plan that stands in stark contrast to Medicare for all.

https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/07/25/kirsten-gillibrand-climate-platform
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on July 27, 2019, 11:00:00 AM
Biden 'looked frail' during Miami debate, Obama's former doctor says

A doctor who served former President Obama for more than 20 years before his presidency said this week he thought former Vice President Joe Biden "looked frail" during the first Democratic debate in Miami, when he was attacked by Sen. Kamala Harris.


Dr. David Scheiner told the Washington Examiner that Biden's appearance during the debate made him nervous.


"Harris started attacking him and he looked frail to me," Scheiner said. "I sort of got the feeling he wasn’t very strong. It was similar to the feeling I got when Republicans started attacking Mueller so fiercely."

"Harris started attacking him and he looked frail to me. I sort of got the feeling he wasn’t very strong. It was similar to the feeling I got when Republicans started attacking Mueller so fiercely."

— Dr. David Scheiner, former physician of Barack Obama

Scheiner, who said he would support the 76-year-old Biden or any other Democratic nominee in the 2020 presidential election, told the Examiner he also has concerns about President Trump’s health.

He said Trump’s weight, diet and lack of exercise are all causes for concern. "He garbles,” the doctor said of the 73-year-old president. “That is a really critical issue. This is not trivial. [Late-night host] Seth Meyers jokes about it but it's not a joke. The guy just can't find the words. He's having difficulty."

The Examiner interviewed Scheiner about new research from the American Federation for Aging Research that found all of the major candidates would likely survive at least one term in office.

Meanwhile, Biden, who was widely panned in his first debate performance, said he won’t be as “polite” in the second debate next week in Detroit.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obamas-former-doctor-thinks-biden-looks-frail
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 29, 2019, 04:04:27 PM
Biden 'looked frail' during Miami debate, Obama's former doctor says

A doctor who served former President Obama for more than 20 years before his presidency said this week he thought former Vice President Joe Biden "looked frail" during the first Democratic debate in Miami, when he was attacked by Sen. Kamala Harris.


Dr. David Scheiner told the Washington Examiner that Biden's appearance during the debate made him nervous.


"Harris started attacking him and he looked frail to me," Scheiner said. "I sort of got the feeling he wasn’t very strong. It was similar to the feeling I got when Republicans started attacking Mueller so fiercely."

"Harris started attacking him and he looked frail to me. I sort of got the feeling he wasn’t very strong. It was similar to the feeling I got when Republicans started attacking Mueller so fiercely."

— Dr. David Scheiner, former physician of Barack Obama

Scheiner, who said he would support the 76-year-old Biden or any other Democratic nominee in the 2020 presidential election, told the Examiner he also has concerns about President Trump’s health.

He said Trump’s weight, diet and lack of exercise are all causes for concern. "He garbles,” the doctor said of the 73-year-old president. “That is a really critical issue. This is not trivial. [Late-night host] Seth Meyers jokes about it but it's not a joke. The guy just can't find the words. He's having difficulty."


The Examiner interviewed Scheiner about new research from the American Federation for Aging Research that found all of the major candidates would likely survive at least one term in office.

Meanwhile, Biden, who was widely panned in his first debate performance, said he won’t be as “polite” in the second debate next week in Detroit.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obamas-former-doctor-thinks-biden-looks-frail
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Princess L on July 31, 2019, 09:43:11 AM
Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
The way to get over someone having broken your heart is to visualize yourself pouring buckets of divine love all over them.

Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
When a woman is pregnant she can feel a new life gestating within her. We are collectively pregnant now, the consciousness of humanity a womb wherein is forming a new state of being. As with any pregnancy there are uncomfortable moments, but the miracle of new life is on the way.

Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
The Goddess doesn't just dance under the moon on the night of a Solstice. She fiercely protects the children of the earth, and so should we.


Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
Any time any of us move from fear to love, we participate in the morphic field out of which will emerge new possibilities for life on earth.


Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
Your body is merely your space station from whence you beam your love to the universe.Don't just relate to the station; relate to the beams.

Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
Everyone feels on some level like an alien in this world, because we ARE. We come from another realm of consciousness, and long for home.


Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
Calling all goddess types: this a perfect time to do ritualistic nature ceremonies invoking divine alignment between humanity and nature.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on July 31, 2019, 10:07:08 AM
They've just started to fight each other.

Warren is promising reparations, loan forgiveness, open borders, etc......

They can't win on all this, and the moderates know it.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 31, 2019, 10:17:29 AM
The only thing the Democrats seem to have going for them in 2020 is Trump
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on July 31, 2019, 10:34:08 AM
The only thing the Democrats seem to have going for them in 2020 is Trump

I think that perception is changing.

It's taken people time to get past the tweets, the fake racism and virtue signaling, and they're realizing we're in a good economy, and the President is trying to make good on all his promises......stuff like the Canadian perscription drug access, if real, will only help him more.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on July 31, 2019, 01:15:18 PM
The only thing the Democrats seem to have going for them in 2020 is Trump
I haven't seen or heard anything from a democrat that would actually help this country, improve our daily living or restore rights taken from us by liberal states. I think Trump takes this election in a landslide.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on July 31, 2019, 01:26:41 PM
The only thing the Democrats seem to have going for them in 2020 is Trump

You’re a astute reasoned Man - Take the Silly Trump Calling Business out,
Do you Really think the Dems have a chance - they seem to be either fighting
Among themselves or endlessly promising the world to the lowest common
Denominations.
I’ve not heard much of any real substance from them.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on July 31, 2019, 01:47:03 PM
I haven't seen or heard anything from a democrat that would actually help this country, improve our daily living or restore rights taken from us by liberal states. I think Trump takes this election in a landslide.

You listen to democrats???
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on July 31, 2019, 01:48:18 PM
You’re a astute reasoned Man - Take the Silly Trump Calling Business out,
Do you Really think the Dems have a chance - they seem to be either fighting
Among themselves or endlessly promising the world to the lowest common
Denominations.
I’ve not heard much of any real substance from them.


100% Dem victory in 2020

Why?

The overwhelming majority of the USA is SJW's who don't at all care about issues, not even in the slightest.

you know what they DO care about and those states with the most delegates care about?

#notTrump


They will vote for a pet rock if it wins the Dem nomination over Trump


Hatred for Trump FAR outnumbers Those who love what he's done


ANYONE else wins vs Trump ... Dem choice means nothing... dems could even choose Anthony Weiner, Harvey Weinstein or Jeffrey Epstein and they would beat Trump



Only issue that matters to over 50% of the USA and the Dems are running on it:


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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on July 31, 2019, 04:01:22 PM
They've just started to fight each other.

Warren is promising reparations, loan forgiveness, open borders, etc......

They can't win on all this, and the moderates know it.


Sadly enough, Warren still stands a somewhat decent shot of winning the primary with that message. That goes to show you just how much the Democratic party has shifted, or at the very least has been influenced by the fervent far left bloc within their party.

The probably with her primary strategy is that President Trump is sitting back, watching this and taking notes of her statements and when she ultimately tries to shift back to the center during a presidential debate he will have plenty of ammunition to humiliate her and question her delusional, fairy tale policies in front of the entire world.

I mean let's be honest...who is better in that very situation than Donald Trump? And I can't think of anyone on the Democratic side who is more easily rattled than Elizabeth Warren.

BTW, I think Drudge really nailed it with it's recent headline...the knives will surely be coming out for Joe Biden tonight.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on July 31, 2019, 05:12:08 PM
Sadly enough, Warren still stands a somewhat decent shot of winning the primary with that message. That goes to show you just how much the Democratic party has shifted, or at the very least has been influenced by the fervent far left bloc within their party.

The probably with her primary strategy is that President Trump is sitting back, watching this and taking notes of her statements and when she ultimately tries to shift back to the center during a presidential debate he will have plenty of ammunition to humiliate her and question her delusional, fairy tale policies in front of the entire world.

I mean let's be honest...who is better in that very situation than Donald Trump? And I can't think of anyone on the Democratic side who is more easily rattled than Elizabeth Warren.

BTW, I think Drudge really nailed it with it's recent headline...the knives will surely be coming out for Joe Biden tonight.

Trump is in a great position should the economy hold.

Barring that, he needs to fix/stabilize the border situation, and continue to improve healthcare, like the Canada Rx thing.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on July 31, 2019, 07:46:51 PM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 31, 2019, 11:31:59 PM
I think that perception is changing.

It's taken people time to get past the tweets, the fake racism and virtue signaling, and they're realizing we're in a good economy, and the President is trying to make good on all his promises......stuff like the Canadian perscription drug access, if real, will only help him more.


I agree in part. If the number one issue for you is stock market or jobs.. the trend that started before Trump is certainly continuing. My bank account has never been the source of my morals.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 31, 2019, 11:34:35 PM
You’re a astute reasoned Man - Take the Silly Trump Calling Business out,
Do you Really think the Dems have a chance - they seem to be either fighting
Among themselves or endlessly promising the world to the lowest common
Denominations.
I’ve not heard much of any real substance from them.


I think the line drawn in the sand is clear for either Trump or someone who isn't Trump. What ever side you fall on.. Campaigns and debates from either party is "fighting among themselves." Tillerson calling Trump a moron is fighting among themselves. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 01, 2019, 12:16:57 AM
I agree in part. If the number one issue for you is stock market or jobs.. the trend that started before Trump is certainly continuing. My bank account has never been the source of my morals.



The party of Planned Parenthood is not the moral beacon.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on August 01, 2019, 05:32:42 AM
I agree in part. If the number one issue for you is stock market or jobs.. the trend that started before Trump is certainly continuing. My bank account has never been the source of my morals.


What's happening that goes against your morals?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 01, 2019, 06:35:53 AM
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Yup. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on August 01, 2019, 09:01:49 AM
Dems got a weak team.

No standouts in this large group of D-listers.

2 debates and no one shows anything special.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 01, 2019, 05:00:20 PM
My takeaways from the past 2 days.

First off, none of these people have even close to the political savvy of a Hillary Clinton, must less Obama or Bill Clinton. It is just painful to sit through this dumpster fire.

Joe Biden - reminds me of that boxer who is way ahead on the cards but is starting to take some hard shots(some self inflicted) and is just trying to last until the final bell for a decision win. He has the built in DNC machine behind him(at this point, could change). The moderate crowd as well. The strikes against him are he is a white male within a party that is increasingly hostile towards white men. When he speaks he barely resembles the guy from 6 years ago much less from his old Senate days. Age is really starting to set in with him and it's painfully obvious. He keeps going back to the "I worked with Obama" well and seems completely miffed why large portions of his party see that as a negative. The party has shifted that much in just a few short years.

Elizabeth Warren - As I stated earlier, she is actually playing pretty smart SHORT term by playing both sides of the fence and weaving in moderate and progressive ideas. The problem is she will have to defend these same progressive ideas in front of the entire world and Donald Trump. And he will not let her weasel her way out of it and gives zero fucks how she feels about it. I don't think there is anyone more that he wants to face than her. I said for the longest time the funnest matchup would be Trump-Hillary 2 but I find myself savoring Trump v. Pocahontas even more.

Kamala - really got exposed badly. A complete paper tiger. Can throw a punch but can't take one. If a young, inexperienced club fighter like Tulsi can rattle her that easy, what is the 1988 version of Mike Tyson(Trump) gonna do when they square off? I would actually feel sorry for her in such a scenario. Well kinda haha.

Bernie - his ship has sailed. Candidates are running to the left of him so that just snatched away all of his progressive mojo from 2016. Just a loud angry old man at this point.

Tulsi - the big winner. Squared up against Kamala and won rather easily. Short term it doesn't really matter but she has set her self up rather nicely for 2024 and beyond. It will be interesting to see how much the mainstream media and DNC attack her going forward.

Yang - needs to expand past the Universal Basic Income message and diversify his platform a bit. Looked decent but not sure what his political aspirations are past 2020 though.

Booker - his outrage schtick is getting played out and tedious.

Beto - Who cares?

The purple state moderate candidates - increasingly ignored or even mocked within their own political party. They same sort of message that took Bill Clinton and Barack Obama all the way to the White House just doesn't seem to be the priority for the Democratic party in 2019.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 01, 2019, 05:10:41 PM

Any Tulsi nudes ?   Hot.
My takeaways from the past 2 days.

First off, none of these people have even close to the political savvy of a Hillary Clinton, must less Obama or Bill Clinton. It is just painful to sit through this dumpster fire.

Joe Biden - reminds me of that boxer who is way ahead on the cards but is starting to take some hard shots(some self inflicted) and is just trying to last until the final bell for a decision win. He has the built in DNC machine behind him(at this point, could change). The moderate crowd as well. The strikes against him are he is a white male within a party that is increasingly hostile towards white men. When he speaks he barely resembles the guy from 6 years ago much less from his old Senate days. Age is really starting to set in with him and it's painfully obvious. He keeps going back to the "I worked with Obama" well and seems completely miffed why large portions of his party see that as a negative. The party has shifted that much in just a few short years.

Elizabeth Warren - As I stated earlier, she is actually playing pretty smart SHORT term by playing both sides of the fence and weaving in moderate and progressive ideas. The problem is she will have to defend these same progressive ideas in front of the entire world and Donald Trump. And he will not let her weasel her way out of it and gives zero fucks how she feels about it. I don't think there is anyone more that he wants to face than her. I said for the longest time the funnest matchup would be Trump-Hillary 2 but I find myself savoring Trump v. Pocahontas even more.

Kamala - really got exposed badly. A complete paper tiger. Can throw a punch but can't take one. If a young, inexperienced club fighter like Tulsi can rattle her that easy, what is the 1988 version of Mike Tyson(Trump) gonna do when they square off? I would actually feel sorry for her in such a scenario. Well kinda haha.

Bernie - his ship has sailed. Candidates are running to the left of him so that just snatched away all of his progressive mojo from 2016. Just a loud angry old man at this point.

Tulsi - the big winner. Squared up against Kamala and won rather easily. Short term it doesn't really matter but she has set her self up rather nicely for 2024 and beyond. It will be interesting to see how much the mainstream media and DNC attack her going forward.

Yang - needs to expand past the Universal Basic Income message and diversity his platform a bit. Looked decent but not sure what his political aspirations are past 2020 though.

Booker - his outrage schtick is getting played out and tedious.

Beto - Who cares?

The purple state moderate candidates - increasingly ignored or even mocked within their own political party. They same sort of message that took Bill Clinton and Barack Obama all the way to the White House just doesn't seem to be the priority for the Democratic party in 2019.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on August 01, 2019, 05:15:43 PM
My takeaways from the past 2 days.


Kamala - really got exposed badly. A complete paper tiger. Can throw a punch but can't take one. If a young, inexperienced club fighter like Tulsi can rattle her that easy, what is the 1988 version of Mike Tyson(Trump) gonna do when they square off? I would actually feel sorry for her in such a scenario. Well kinda haha.


Tulsi - the big winner. Squared up against Kamala and won rather easily. Short term it doesn't really matter but she has set her self up rather nicely for 2024 and beyond. It will be interesting to see how much the mainstream media and DNC attack her going forward.


Gabbard was right to expose the corrupt Horizontal Harris and she's is now being branded an "Assad sympathizer" and "supported by Russia".. Harris must be quite desperate. I think Gabbard's half minute intro to the debate was the best one.
Someone posted this and it's quite funny:

https://twitter.com/JayIronHook/status/1156739449235091456

Kamala tells Tulsi "I challenge you to make decisions under fire"

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 02, 2019, 12:18:13 PM
Gabbard was right to expose the corrupt Horizontal Harris and she's is now being branded an "Assad sympathizer" and "supported by Russia".. Harris must be quite desperate. I think Gabbard's half minute intro to the debate was the best one.
Someone posted this and it's quite funny:

https://twitter.com/JayIronHook/status/1156739449235091456

Kamala tells Tulsi "I challenge you to make decisions under fire"

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA2QZZMX4AUd375.jpg)



Ha!   Kamala is a disgusting leech like Hillary.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 02, 2019, 06:03:22 PM
Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
The way to get over someone having broken your heart is to visualize yourself pouring buckets of divine love all over them.

Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
When a woman is pregnant she can feel a new life gestating within her. We are collectively pregnant now, the consciousness of humanity a womb wherein is forming a new state of being. As with any pregnancy there are uncomfortable moments, but the miracle of new life is on the way.

Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
The Goddess doesn't just dance under the moon on the night of a Solstice. She fiercely protects the children of the earth, and so should we.


Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
Any time any of us move from fear to love, we participate in the morphic field out of which will emerge new possibilities for life on earth.


Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
Your body is merely your space station from whence you beam your love to the universe.Don't just relate to the station; relate to the beams.

Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
Everyone feels on some level like an alien in this world, because we ARE. We come from another realm of consciousness, and long for home.


Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
Calling all goddess types: this a perfect time to do ritualistic nature ceremonies invoking divine alignment between humanity and nature.



Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 02, 2019, 06:05:39 PM
Gabbard was right to expose the corrupt Horizontal Harris and she's is now being branded an "Assad sympathizer" and "supported by Russia".. Harris must be quite desperate. I think Gabbard's half minute intro to the debate was the best one.
Someone posted this and it's quite funny:

https://twitter.com/JayIronHook/status/1156739449235091456

Kamala tells Tulsi "I challenge you to make decisions under fire"

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA2QZZMX4AUd375.jpg)



Awesome.   ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 02, 2019, 06:07:36 PM
My takeaways from the past 2 days.

First off, none of these people have even close to the political savvy of a Hillary Clinton, must less Obama or Bill Clinton. It is just painful to sit through this dumpster fire.

Joe Biden - reminds me of that boxer who is way ahead on the cards but is starting to take some hard shots(some self inflicted) and is just trying to last until the final bell for a decision win. He has the built in DNC machine behind him(at this point, could change). The moderate crowd as well. The strikes against him are he is a white male within a party that is increasingly hostile towards white men. When he speaks he barely resembles the guy from 6 years ago much less from his old Senate days. Age is really starting to set in with him and it's painfully obvious. He keeps going back to the "I worked with Obama" well and seems completely miffed why large portions of his party see that as a negative. The party has shifted that much in just a few short years.

Elizabeth Warren - As I stated earlier, she is actually playing pretty smart SHORT term by playing both sides of the fence and weaving in moderate and progressive ideas. The problem is she will have to defend these same progressive ideas in front of the entire world and Donald Trump. And he will not let her weasel her way out of it and gives zero fucks how she feels about it. I don't think there is anyone more that he wants to face than her. I said for the longest time the funnest matchup would be Trump-Hillary 2 but I find myself savoring Trump v. Pocahontas even more.

Kamala - really got exposed badly. A complete paper tiger. Can throw a punch but can't take one. If a young, inexperienced club fighter like Tulsi can rattle her that easy, what is the 1988 version of Mike Tyson(Trump) gonna do when they square off? I would actually feel sorry for her in such a scenario. Well kinda haha.

Bernie - his ship has sailed. Candidates are running to the left of him so that just snatched away all of his progressive mojo from 2016. Just a loud angry old man at this point.

Tulsi - the big winner. Squared up against Kamala and won rather easily. Short term it doesn't really matter but she has set her self up rather nicely for 2024 and beyond. It will be interesting to see how much the mainstream media and DNC attack her going forward.

Yang - needs to expand past the Universal Basic Income message and diversity his platform a bit. Looked decent but not sure what his political aspirations are past 2020 though.

Booker - his outrage schtick is getting played out and tedious.

Beto - Who cares?

The purple state moderate candidates - increasingly ignored or even mocked within their own political party. They same sort of message that took Bill Clinton and Barack Obama all the way to the White House just doesn't seem to be the priority for the Democratic party in 2019.

Solid analysis. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on August 02, 2019, 07:07:10 PM
Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
The way to get over someone having broken your heart is to visualize yourself pouring buckets of divine love all over them.

Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
When a woman is pregnant she can feel a new life gestating within her. We are collectively pregnant now, the consciousness of humanity a womb wherein is forming a new state of being. As with any pregnancy there are uncomfortable moments, but the miracle of new life is on the way.

Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
The Goddess doesn't just dance under the moon on the night of a Solstice. She fiercely protects the children of the earth, and so should we.


Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
Any time any of us move from fear to love, we participate in the morphic field out of which will emerge new possibilities for life on earth.


Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
Your body is merely your space station from whence you beam your love to the universe.Don't just relate to the station; relate to the beams.

Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
Everyone feels on some level like an alien in this world, because we ARE. We come from another realm of consciousness, and long for home.


Marianne Williamson

@marwilliamson
Calling all goddess types: this a perfect time to do ritualistic nature ceremonies invoking divine alignment between humanity and nature.


Here she is interviewing Henry Kissinger:

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 03, 2019, 06:05:41 AM
Solid analysis. 

I saw a car yesterday with a couple Beto 2020 stickers on it.

I didn't even know such things existed.

I was just thinking, I know the Democrat lineup is pretty underwhelming this cycle but out of all the candidates available you picked THAT guy??
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on August 03, 2019, 09:17:59 AM
I saw a car yesterday with a couple Beto 2020 stickers on it.

I didn't even know such things existed.

I was just thinking, I know the Democrat lineup is pretty underwhelming this cycle but out of all the candidates available you picked THAT guy??

Saw a beat up pick up truck with all kinds of liberal, tree hugger stickers on it a few months ago.

Beto sticker on there too.

Early adopters.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on August 03, 2019, 09:22:24 AM
Let's just go with

President Buttplug
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on August 03, 2019, 01:01:23 PM
Let's just go with

President Buttplug

Butt-man actually seems one of the sanest of the bunch.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 03, 2019, 02:48:41 PM
Tushi Grabber's family is conservative and she's a vet. The dems think she's a plant that only runs as dem because in Hawaii there isn't an option to run GOP.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 03, 2019, 05:42:32 PM
Tushi Grabber's family is conservative and she's a vet. The dems think she's a plant that only runs as dem because in Hawaii there isn't an option to run GOP.

She has a brain and somewhat sensible.   The rest are a bunch of psychotics
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on August 05, 2019, 07:31:54 AM
Butt-man actually seems one of the sanest of the bunch.

Minorities can't get behind him.  The majority despise butt-men.  It's just part of their culture.  Yet it's the liberal left that call for multiculturalism. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on August 05, 2019, 04:14:54 PM
She has a brain and somewhat sensible.   The rest are a bunch of psychotics

Yang is pretty sensible as well.

I don't like a lot of his policies, but he's really smart, and means well.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Princess L on August 07, 2019, 01:29:42 PM
Can you imagine having that damn finger pointing at you for 4 years  ::)

(https://www.keranews.org/sites/kera/files/styles/x_large/public/201901/AP_19021670696700.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 07, 2019, 02:04:15 PM
Yang is pretty sensible as well.

I don't like a lot of his policies, but he's really smart, and means well.


The guy that said we need to run to the hills because of rising seas? That guy? HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 07, 2019, 09:45:38 PM
Can you imagine having that damn finger pointing at you for 4 years  ::)

(https://www.keranews.org/sites/kera/files/styles/x_large/public/201901/AP_19021670696700.jpg)

About as well as I never imagined we'd elect Trump.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: mazrim on August 08, 2019, 04:45:16 AM

The guy that said we need to run to the hills because of rising seas? That guy? HAHAHAHA
My impression on both of them is that they are still wacky with a lot of their policies/ideas but they are sensible in that they don't want to essentially completely shut down talk on the other side like the others.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 08, 2019, 07:02:25 AM
Can you imagine having that damn finger pointing at you for 4 years  ::)

(https://www.keranews.org/sites/kera/files/styles/x_large/public/201901/AP_19021670696700.jpg)

She copied that from Barry Obama
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on August 08, 2019, 08:23:53 AM
Can you imagine having that damn finger pointing at you for 4 years  ::)

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(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/581118cab28a64c9018b52c1-750-375.jpg)

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(https://www.northstandchat.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=64243&d=1427721263)

(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/58111a9f362ca49e018b5122-2732-1366.jpg)

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 08, 2019, 11:51:27 AM
Interesting read and the similarities between the parties and circumstances are there although I think Kerry was a stronger candidate than Biden and Trump is a stronger candidate than 2004 Bush.

Will 2020 Be a Repeat of 2004 for Democrats?

By VICTOR DAVIS HANSON
August 8, 2019 6:30 AM

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https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/will-2020-election-be-repeat-of-2004-for-democrats/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 08, 2019, 02:55:08 PM
It's hard to tell if Biden is weaker than Kerry or if his party has gone so radical that he doesn't even fit in. In that respect Kerry was a stronger candidate because the party and his line were the same.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 09, 2019, 07:21:08 AM
It's hard to tell if Biden is weaker than Kerry or if his party has gone so radical that he doesn't even fit in. In that respect Kerry was a stronger candidate because the party and his line were the same.

I think a little bit of both.

The Biden of 2012 who took on Paul Ryan would be the stronger candidate of the two imo. Biden had that blue collar, rust belt swag versus the sort of snooty, aristocratic feel of John Kerry.

The 800 pound gorilla in the room is Biden's age and the effects it has had on him in the last handful of years. He fumbles his words much more now and at times has been completely incoherent. I just don't see Biden performing nearly as well on stage in 2020 as Kerry in 2004.

And the crazed left wing of the party is coming at him like punches in a bar room brawl, from all directions and he just isn't able to defend himself very well. You go to alot of the bigger progressive outlets and they shit on Biden almost as much as Trump.

That being said he STILL has a massive advantage with the support of moderate Democrats and with Iowa and South Carolina being very early states. He wins those 2 and he will be extremely hard to stop. Kamala's recent failures in the last debate could prove to be a boon for him as well.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 09, 2019, 10:08:28 AM
Interesting read and the similarities between the parties and circumstances are there although I think Kerry was a stronger candidate than Biden and Trump is a stronger candidate than 2004 Bush.

Will 2020 Be a Repeat of 2004 for Democrats?

By VICTOR DAVIS HANSON
August 8, 2019 6:30 AM

(https://i0.wp.com/www.nationalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/john-kerry-concession-speech.jpg?w=2000&ssl=1)

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/will-2020-election-be-repeat-of-2004-for-democrats/

Pathetic:  "Something similar is shaping up for the Democrats in 2020. The 20-candidate field is larger than it was in 2004 — and even weirder. Fifteen of the 20 are polling at under 5 percent."
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on August 09, 2019, 10:38:09 AM
How do they determine who qualifies for next round of debates?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on August 09, 2019, 11:23:23 AM
How do they determine who qualifies for next round of debates?

By their own (lack of) standards, they can't.  Everyone "wins".
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 09, 2019, 11:35:38 AM
How do they determine who qualifies for next round of debates?

Only 8 Candidates Have Qualified for the Next Democratic Debate
While 20 presidential candidates debated this past week, far fewer are assured the chance of doing so again in September.
By Maggie Astor
Aug. 1, 2019

[Update: Andrew Yang has qualified for the next Democratic presidential debate, widening the field to nine.]

So you made it through the second set of Democratic debates. Congratulations! Ready to talk about the next ones?

The Democratic National Committee has set stricter criteria for the third set of debates, which will be held on Sept. 12 and Sept. 13 in Houston. If 10 or fewer candidates qualify, the debate will take place on only one night.

Candidates will need to have 130,000 unique donors and register at least 2 percent support in four polls. They have until Aug. 28 to reach those benchmarks.

A spotlight on the people reshaping our politics. A conversation with voters across the country. And a guiding hand through the endless news cycle, telling you what you really need to know.

These criteria could easily halve the field: The first two sets of debates included 20 of the 24 candidates, but a New York Times analysis of polls and donor numbers shows that only 10 to 12 candidates are likely to make the third round.

Eight candidates have already met both qualification thresholds and are guaranteed a spot onstage. They are:

Former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.

Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey

Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind.

Senator Kamala Harris of California

Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota

Former Representative Beto O’Rourke of Texas

Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont

Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts

Ms. Klobuchar’s campaign announced on Friday that she had exceeded the required number of donors in the days following the debate. She had already met the polling threshold.

Two other candidates are very close: The former housing secretary Julián Castro and the entrepreneur Andrew Yang have surpassed 130,000 donors and each have three of the four qualifying polls they need. Representative Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii has also crossed the 130,000-donor mark, her campaign said Friday, but she has only one qualifying poll so far.

Beyond them, only two candidates have even a single qualifying poll to their name: the impeachment activist Tom Steyer (two polls) and former Gov. John Hickenlooper of Colorado (one).

We asked their campaigns to provide donor numbers so we could assess where they stood. A spokesman for Mr. Steyer said he was “on track to collect the required number of donors to make the September debate stage” but did not give a number. Mr. Hickenlooper’s campaign did not respond, but Politico reported a month ago that he had only 13,000 donors.

The other 11 candidates in the race have no qualifying polls to their name, and they all went into this week’s debates seeking a viral moment that would attract new donors and lift them, even briefly, in the polls.

The qualification rules do not require enduring support. Even a small post-debate surge could push a 1 percent candidate up to 2 percent in the small handful of polls he or she needs.

But for those who have not qualified, the Aug. 28 deadline is an existential threat. Candidates like Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York or Gov. Jay Inslee of Washington could be washed out of the race if they don’t get momentum from this week’s debates. And if you’re wondering whether they’re anxious, the answer is yes.

Ms. Gabbard’s campaign calculated at one point that she needed a new donor every minute to reach 130,000 by the Aug. 28 deadline. Visitors to her website saw a timer next to the donation button that began counting down 60 seconds. Then the text changed.

“🙁 Oh no!” it said. “The time expired and you didn’t donate!”

It must have been effective. Ms. Gabbard now has more than 145,000 donors, her campaign said Friday night.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/01/us/politics/next-democratic-debate.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 09, 2019, 01:40:12 PM
How do they determine who qualifies for next round of debates?

There are much stricter qualifications for next September's Democratic Presidential debates. Here's the criteria to qualify:

Candidates must meet both a polling and donor threshold: At least 2 percent in four national DNC-approved polls and at least 130,000 unique donors, coming from at least 400 unique donors in 20 or more states. The deadline to reach the qualifications for the September debate is August 28. (For anyone closely following along at home, those are double the 1 percent polling threshold and a 65,000 donor minimum from the past two rounds, when candidates only had to clear one of the two bars.)

Biden remains the front runner in the polls.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 09, 2019, 01:44:13 PM
Latest Biden blunder: ‘Poor kids’ are just as bright as ‘white kids'

Gaffe-prone presidential hopeful Joe Biden put his foot in his mouth during an Iowa campaign stop on Thursday when he told a group of predominately Asian and Hispanic voters that “poor kids are just as bright, just as talented, as white kids.”

Biden committed the stunning blunder while speaking about education at a town hall with the Asian and Latino Coalition in Des Moines, where he’s campaigning and fundraising for the 2020 Democratic primary.

“We should challenge students in these schools and have advanced placement programs in these schools. We have this notion that somehow if you’re poor, you cannot do it,” Biden said at the event, according to video of his remarks.


“Poor kids are just as bright, just as talented, as white kids,” he added.

Biden almost immediately went into damage control mode, quickly adding: “wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids, no I really mean it, but think how we think about it.”

But President Trump’s campaign quickly seized on the tongue slip, with his “rapid response director” Andrew Clark tweeting out a video clip of the remark.

“Yikes…have fun mitigating that one,” he tweeted.

Biden walked out of the Democratic primary debates last week red-faced after he accidentally told donors to “go to Joe 30330” when he meant to tell them to “text JOE to 30330″ to donate.

On Monday, the befuddled 76-year-old bungled the locations of the El Paso and Dayton mass shootings when he expressed sympathy for the “tragic events in Houston today and also in Michigan the day before.”

https://nypost.com/2019/08/08/latest-biden-blunder-poor-kids-are-just-as-bright-as-white-kids/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 09, 2019, 02:08:09 PM
Biden = dementia.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on August 09, 2019, 02:24:07 PM
Biden long since sold himself.  He is desperately trying to be relevant to his masters.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 09, 2019, 02:36:52 PM
Biden = dementia.
Trump + tryrant

The only media allowed when he was recently in El Paso was the media representatives the White house brought with them on this visit. Victims of the shooting still in hospital, declined to be visited upon by Trump. Trump says he was warmly welcomed. Who's lying?

University Medical Center spokesman Ryan Mielke said the hospital had reached out to the Anchondo family and other discharged patients on Tuesday, the day before the president’s visit, after it became clear that none of the hospitalized shooting victims would meet him.

Trump took other thumbs-up photos at the hospital, too, the official said, noting that other such pictures have concerned White House aides who have encouraged him to strike a more empathetic tone.


August 8, 2019 Washington Post
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on August 09, 2019, 02:44:20 PM
Trump + tryrant

The only media allowed when he was recently in El Paso was the media representatives the White house brought with them on this visit. Victims of the shooting still in hospital, declined to be visited upon by Trump. Trump says he was warmly welcomed. Who's lying?

University Medical Center spokesman Ryan Mielke said the hospital had reached out to the Anchondo family and other discharged patients on Tuesday, the day before the president’s visit, after it became clear that none of the hospitalized shooting victims would meet him.

Trump took other thumbs-up photos at the hospital, too, the official said, noting that other such pictures have concerned White House aides who have encouraged him to strike a more empathetic tone.


August 8, 2019 Washington Post

You do realize that the attitude you display here will be responsible for the demise of Portland?  Ultimately, the police will not be allowed to protect you from that which you now so eagerly feed.  You should know better but if your kind keeps this up, you will know worse and all because of your hatred of all that is good and just in the name of "fairness". 

I have a relative in Portland.  The place is going to become another San Francisco.  Another Los Angeles.  Another shit hole. When cucks finally call for a plumber the plumber ain't showing up.  Did it to yourselves.

You risk becoming the boy who called "racist".
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 09, 2019, 03:07:05 PM
You do realize that the attitude you display here will be responsible for the demise of Portland?  Ultimately, the police will not be allowed to protect you from that which you now so eagerly feed.  You should know better but if your kind keeps this up, you will know worse and all because of your hatred of all that is good and just in the name of "fairness". 

I have a relative in Portland.  The place is going to become another San Francisco.  Another Los Angeles.  Another shit hole. When cucks finally call for a plumber the plumber ain't showing up.  Did it to yourselves.

You risk becoming the boy who called "racist".

You got all that from my post? Not even sure how you made the connection to Portland. What I posted is simply what is in today's Oregonian and the Washington Post.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on August 09, 2019, 03:21:08 PM
You got all that from my post? Not even sure how you made the connection to Portland. What I posted is simply what is in today's Oregonian and the Washington Post.

I got that you agreed with that dross.  If I am wrong, then I am ecstatic.  If I am not, just say as much.  Portland is where you reside or thereabouts, is it not? I have a relative there.  Simple. The attitude of liberals will destroy Portland.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 09, 2019, 03:50:08 PM
I got that you agreed with that dross.  If I am wrong, then I am ecstatic.  If I am not, just say as much.  Portland is where you reside or thereabouts, is it not? I have a relative there.  Simple. The attitude of liberals will destroy Portland.

Sometimes I post things that I neither agree with nor disagree with. My motto is, unless you witness something firsthand, you cannot be sure of the truth in a matter. In this case, you misunderstood my intentions (so easy to do on social media).

I'm not sure how I feel about Portland as a place to live these days. But, living in the 'burbs I'm no expert on what inner city living is all about.

On another note. There was also a newspaper article about Portland mayor, Ted Wheeler, approving a $60. per rental unit annual fee for landlords, which the city will use to police landlord - tenant issues. Apparently many cities are doing this now. It seems regressive. It will obviously just raise rents in an already over-inflated market, not to mention is is one more ridiculous "tax" Portland has come up. But, Portland is not alone. 90% of my water bill pays for unrelated West Linn Services, such as street cleaning and parks maintenance, etc. This is on top of an annual property tax bill that increases by 6% each year. My retirement income increased by only 3% which means if I live long enough, I'll be living in poverty.

Where in Portland does your friend live? The city is very diverse. Quality of life in Portland depends a lot on what part of the city you live in.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on August 09, 2019, 06:49:07 PM
Trump + tryrant

The only media allowed when he was recently in El Paso was the media representatives the White house brought with them on this visit. Victims of the shooting still in hospital, declined to be visited upon by Trump. Trump says he was warmly welcomed. Who's lying?

University Medical Center spokesman Ryan Mielke said the hospital had reached out to the Anchondo family and other discharged patients on Tuesday, the day before the president’s visit, after it became clear that none of the hospitalized shooting victims would meet him.

Trump took other thumbs-up photos at the hospital, too, the official said, noting that other such pictures have concerned White House aides who have encouraged him to strike a more empathetic tone.


August 8, 2019 Washington Post
Yes, who's lying?


Quote
The president did not meet with any of the eight survivors still convalescing at UMC, the El Paso Times reported Wednesday, Aug. 7.
Three of the eight survivors were unable to meet Trump because they were in too poor condition or because of a Spanish language barrier, Henry Gallardo, UMC’s chair of the hospital board of managers, said.
Five declined the offer.

The President did meet with family members of three survivors in the hospital waiting room for nearly two hours
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 10, 2019, 10:39:10 AM
Yang surpasses Beto in Iowa poll, qualifies for fall debates

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Andrew Yang, the entrepreneur running an outsider presidential campaign centered on the promise of a universal basic income, has qualified for the fall Democratic primary debates.

Yang crossed the second of two required debate thresholds on Thursday, when he polled at 2 percent in a Monmouth University poll in Iowa. He had previously received at least 2 percent in three other polls approved by the Democratic National Committee and has hit the required 130,000 unique donor mark.


At the other end of the spectrum, onetime Democratic phenom Beto O'Rourke was outperformed in the poll by Yang, clocking in at under 1 percent.

Yang is the ninth candidate to qualify for a pair of debates: one in mid-September and one sometime in October. He joins Joe Biden, Cory Booker, Pete Buttigieg, Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar, O’Rourke, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren on stage.

Biden leads the field in the Monmouth poll in Iowa, the first DNC-approved poll in the key early state taken since the second round of debates last month. He has 28 percent to Warren’s 19 percent. Harris is in third with 11 percent, Sanders has 9 percent and Buttigieg has 8 percent.

Biden’s position at the top is stable from an April 2019 poll Monmouth took in the first caucus state, ticking up a single percentage point. Warren gained 12 points over the April poll, Harris is up 4 points and Sanders dropped 7 points. Buttigieg also remains in the same position he was in in April, losing just 1 point. O'Rourke, who polled at 6 percent in the April poll, polled at less than 1 percent in August.

http://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/08/08/andrew-yang-qualifies-democratic-debates-1453030
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 10, 2019, 10:48:43 AM
The next Democratic debate is getting dangerously close to being 2 nights again

A ninth Democrat has qualified for the third round of presidential debates, bringing us closer to another two-night affair.

Entrepreneur Andrew Yang on Thursday became the latest Democratic candidate for president to qualify for the September debate following the release of a Monmouth University Iowa poll in which he has two percent support, The New York Times reports. Yang previously had the 130,000 individual donors needed for the September debate's qualification threshold, which is stricter than that of the previous two debates, and he has now met the requirement of two percent support in four polls as well.

This means the September debate will include at least the following nine candidates: former Vice President Joe Biden, Sens. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), and Cory Booker (D-N.J.), South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, former congressman Beto O'Rourke, and Yang. As the Times points out, former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro is close to qualifying; he has enough donors and now needs to reach two percent support in one more qualifying poll. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) also has surpassed the 130,000 individual donor requirement, The Washington Examiner reports.


While the first two rounds of debates took place over two nights because there were so many candidates, it was thought raising the qualifying threshold for the September debate might cut the field down enough for only one night to be required. The New York Times previously reported that this September debate would take place on a single night should 10 candidates or fewer qualify. Were Castro and Gabbard to both squeeze in, there would be 11 candidates.

http://www.theweek.com/speedreads-amp/857870/next-democratic-debate-getting-dangerously-close-being-2-nights-again
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 10, 2019, 05:24:44 PM
Yes, who's lying?



There were eight victims total in hospital when Trump visited. Five declined his visit and three still were too critical for visitation. Trump claims he got a warm welcome.  If not a lie, at least there are inconsistent views of the success of this event as reported.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on August 10, 2019, 05:45:55 PM
There were eight victims total in hospital when Trump visited. Five declined his visit and three still were too critical for visitation. Trump claims he got a warm welcome.  If not a lie, at least there are inconsistent views of the success of this event as reported.   
You missed this part?

Quote
too poor condition or because of a Spanish language barrier


or this one?

Quote
The President did meet with family members of three survivors in the hospital waiting room for nearly two hours

Either way, he was there. I know you're trying desperately to push the msm agenda of "everyone hates Trump" but that's just not true.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 10, 2019, 06:14:33 PM
You missed this part?


or this one?

Either way, he was there. I know you're trying desperately to push the msm agenda of "everyone hates Trump" but that's just not true.

I missed nothing there were 8 total hospitalized victims and for various reasons Trump was unable to meet with any of them. One reason being that 5 declined to meet with him.

I am simply posting what's been reported in the news and said by Trump. Obviously, everyone doesn't hate Trump. He got elected didn't he?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on August 11, 2019, 10:07:37 AM
I missed nothing there were 8 total hospitalized victims and for various reasons Trump was unable to meet with any of them. One reason being that 5 declined to meet with him.

I am simply posting what's been reported in the news and said by Trump. Obviously, everyone doesn't hate Trump. He got elected didn't he?
You asked "who's lying", inferring that Trump lied saying he recieved a warm welcome, can you show us where he did NOT?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 11, 2019, 10:33:50 AM
You asked "who's lying", inferring that Trump lied saying he recieved a warm welcome, can you show us where he did NOT?

The 5 that wouldn’t meet with the President or the press are illegal immigrants who don’t want to be exposed as such.

Why do you even try to talk common sense with that senile, pedophile-defending, liberal cuck, retard?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 11, 2019, 11:59:31 AM
So, Beto is polling at <1% yet Texas is in play for the Dems in 2020?🤔
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 12, 2019, 05:07:21 PM
Polling right about 1% nationally, presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke turned up the heat on his connection to the working class by posting a video of himself changing a tire — without any assistance from the folks at AAA.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcS2oV1xOTaNmmveX8ZcuNbBtyfJYAouZQOsLgzbQ1KbH1rSvBdC)

http://news.valubit.org/im-just-like-you-beto-orourke-changes-a-tire/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 12, 2019, 10:29:33 PM
Polling right about 1% nationally, presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke turned up the heat on his connection to the working class by posting a video of himself changing a tire — without any assistance from the folks at AAA.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcS2oV1xOTaNmmveX8ZcuNbBtyfJYAouZQOsLgzbQ1KbH1rSvBdC)

http://news.valubit.org/im-just-like-you-beto-orourke-changes-a-tire/



Just getting ready for a future career changing tires.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 12, 2019, 11:35:52 PM
You asked "who's lying", inferring that Trump lied saying he recieved a warm welcome, can you show us where he did NOT?

Depends on what you consider a warm welcome. If you go to a an event and only a couple of people will talk to you, it just doesn't seem like that warm a welcome. I guess you could argue that if the few he actually got to speak with warmly welcomed him this is somewhat redeeming. Honestly, I wouldn't expect Trump or any other politician for that matter to acknowledge when such a visit is a failure. It's just that Trump so often sees things through rose colored glasses when it suits him.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 13, 2019, 04:46:00 AM
Gabbard will take 2-week break from 2020 campaign for National Guard duty

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By QUINT FORGEY
08/12/2019 10:44 AM EDT

Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, a Democratic presidential candidate who serves in her state's National Guard, will step away from her White House campaign Monday to report for active duty, participating in a two-week joint training exercise in Indonesia.

“We’ll be doing a training exercise with the Indonesian military, focused on a few different things like counterterrorism, humanitarian aid and disaster response and joining my brothers and sisters from the Hawaii National Guard in doing so,” Gabbard told CBS News in an interview that aired Monday.


Gabbard, a three-term lawmaker, served two tours in the Middle East with the Hawaii Army National Guard — in Iraq from 2004-2005 and in Kuwait from 2008-2009. She is a member of the House Armed Services Committee and sat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee in the previous Congress.

"I love our country. I love being able to serve our country in so many ways, including as a soldier," Gabbard said. "And so while some people are telling me, like, ‘Gosh, this is a terrible time to leave the campaign. Can't you find a way out of it?’ You know, that's not what this is about."

Gabbard has made her military experience a centerpiece of her presidential bid, touting her qualifications to become commander in chief and denouncing “regime change wars” and “the gunboat diplomacy of the past.”

http://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/08/12/tulsi-gabbard-campaign-break-active-duty-1458155
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 13, 2019, 05:04:12 AM


Just getting ready for a future career changing tires.

 ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 13, 2019, 02:24:15 PM
Kamala Harris: Trump Didn’t Pull the Trigger in El Paso — But He Tweeted Out the Ammunition
PAM KEY
12 Aug 2019

Sunday in an interview with The Des Moines Register, 2020 presidential candidates Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) said President Donald Trump did not “pull the trigger,” at the mass shooting at a Walmart store in El Paso, Texas but he has been “tweeting out the ammunition.”

Harris said, “I, as a prosecutor, I prosecuted hate crimes. As the Attorney General of California, where I ran the second largest Department Justice in the United States, I on an annual basis published the Hate Crime Report. So I will tell you this stuff is not new in our country. It certainly predates the election of Donald Trump, but it has also increased under Donald Trump. He has been fueling the flames of hate. I said recently on the issue of El Paso, you know, no, when people ask me is he responsible for these killings? Well no he obviously didn’t pull the trigger but he sure been tweeting out the ammunition.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/08/12/kamala-harris-trump-didnt-pull-the-trigger-in-el-paso-but-he-tweeted-out-the-ammunition/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 13, 2019, 02:37:22 PM
On Ferguson, Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris Told a Terrible Lie
By DAVID FRENCH
August 12, 2019

Their falsehoods were immoral, divisive, and quite possibly unlawful.

On Friday afternoon, two of the leading contenders in the Democratic presidential primary lied. There’s no other fair way to put it. They flat-out spread fiction, libeled an innocent man, and stoked American divisions — all for political gain.

Five years ago, a Ferguson, Mo., police officer named Darren Wilson shot a young black man named Michael Brown to death after an altercation in the street. False rumors about Brown’s death — namely that he was shot in cold blood while trying to surrender with his hands in the air — ignited violent protests in Missouri and revulsion across the United States.

“Hands up, don’t shoot” became a national rallying cry — until the Obama Department of Justice comprehensively and thoroughly debunked it in a lengthy report published on March 4, 2015. Writing in December of the same year, the Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler called the slogan one of “the biggest Pinocchios of the year.”

But Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren ignored the Obama DOJ. They blew straight through the facts of the case and published these accusations:

Kamala Harris

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 Michael Brown’s murder forever changed Ferguson and America. His tragic death sparked a desperately needed conversation and a nationwide movement. We must fight for stronger accountability and racial equity in our justice system.

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 5 years ago Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. Michael was unarmed yet he was shot 6 times. I stand with activists and organizers who continue the fight for justice for Michael. We must confront systemic racism and police violence head on.

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To demonstrate just how preposterous it is to accuse Wilson of murder, it’s worth revisiting the actual facts of the case, according to the best evidence available to the investigators. On August 9, 2014, Michael Brown and a friend were walking in the middle of the street shortly after Brown had stolen cigarillos from a local market and shoved away the store clerk when he tried to intervene.

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When Wilson first spotted Brown and his friend, he told them to walk on the sidewalk. He then realized that they matched the description of the theft suspects and blocked their path with his vehicle.

Wilson tried to open his door, but it either bounced off Brown or Brown slammed it shut. Brown then reached into the vehicle and started punching Wilson. As Wilson fended off the blows, he reached for his gun. Brown allegedly tried to take the gun from Wilson, and Wilson managed to get a shot off, injuring Brown in the hand. Eyewitnesses corroborated Wilson’s claims that Brown was reaching in the car, and these claims were further corroborated by “bruising on Wilson’s jaw and scratches on his neck, the presence of Brown’s DNA on Wilson’s collar, shirt, and pants, and Wilson’s DNA on Brown’s palm.”

Brown then started to run away. After a brief pause Wilson pursued, ordering Brown to stop. Brown then turned back to Wilson and started running toward him. According to the report, “several witnesses stated that Brown appeared to pose a physical threat to Wilson as he moved toward Wilson.” Wilson fired again, striking Brown several times, yet Brown kept moving toward Wilson until the final shot hit him in the head, killing him.

The report’s conclusion was crystal clear:

Given that Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses, to include aspects of the testimony of [Brown’s friend], there is no credible evidence that Wilson willfully shot Brown as he was attempting to surrender or was otherwise not posing a threat. [Emphasis added.]

The report flatly declared that Wilson “did not act with the requisite criminal intent.”

“No credible evidence” is a powerful statement, but if you read the report, it’s a powerful statement based not just on extensive forensic evidence but also on the courageous testimony of witnesses who feared reprisal for speaking the truth. One witness, a 58-year-old black male, told prosecutors that there were signs in the neighborhood that said “Snitches get stitches.” Yet he spoke the truth anyway. Other witnesses overcame their fears and spoke the truth.

How do we have confidence that they spoke the truth? Because, as the report notes, their statements “have been materially consistent, are consistent with the physical evidence, and . . . are mutually corroborative.”

To be sure, there were other witnesses. Some neither incriminated him nor fully corroborated him. And there was an entire category of witnesses whose accounts were “inconsistent with the physical and forensic evidence,” the report noted, adding:

Some of those accounts are materially inconsistent with that witness’s own prior statements with no explanation, credible [or] otherwise, as to why those accounts changed over time. Certain other witnesses who originally stated Brown had his hands up in surrender recanted their original accounts, admitting that they did not witness the shooting or parts of it, despite what they initially reported either to federal or local law enforcement or to the media.

There are few more fraught issues in American public life than the question of police shootings — especially police shootings of black men. I’ve written about the issue time and time again and have come to believe not only that too many American police officers resort to deadly force too quickly but also that there is an unacceptable pro-police bias in our criminal-justice system. There is also evidence that race plays a more malignant role in policing than many of us hoped.

Indeed, while we must of course remember the DOJ’s report exonerating Darren Wilson, we should also remember that there was a second DOJ report in 2015 that found systematic misconduct at the Ferguson Police Department, misconduct that disproportionately affected Ferguson’s black citizens. I urge you to read both reports, and if you read the second report with an open mind, you’ll almost certainly come to believe that Ferguson’s black residents possessed legitimate grievances against their police department.

That’s the complicated nation we inhabit, but the complexity does not mean there aren’t simple obligations that attach to every politician, activist, and member of the media. And the simplest of those obligations is a commitment to the truth. We know that lies and falsehoods can cause riots. They can cause city blocks to burn. They can destroy a man’s life. At the very least, they can further embitter an already toxic public discourse. When issues are most fraught, the obligation of courageous, honest leadership is most imperative.

But Warren and Harris’s failure is more than a failure of leadership. The publication of a false accusation of a crime like murder is libelous under American law. In other words, their lies may well have been illegal. Democrats — especially Democrats who seek to address the very real challenges surrounding police violence in the United States — should demand better. Harris and Warren should do better. They should correct and retract their false statements. There is no excuse for their inflammatory lies.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/elizabeth-warren-kamala-harris-ferguson-michael-brown/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 13, 2019, 03:18:57 PM
Kamala Harris: Trump Didn’t Pull the Trigger in El Paso — But He Tweeted Out the Ammunition
PAM KEY
12 Aug 2019

Sunday in an interview with The Des Moines Register, 2020 presidential candidates Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) said President Donald Trump did not “pull the trigger,” at the mass shooting at a Walmart store in El Paso, Texas but he has been “tweeting out the ammunition.”

Harris said, “I, as a prosecutor, I prosecuted hate crimes. As the Attorney General of California, where I ran the second largest Department Justice in the United States, I on an annual basis published the Hate Crime Report. So I will tell you this stuff is not new in our country. It certainly predates the election of Donald Trump, but it has also increased under Donald Trump. He has been fueling the flames of hate. I said recently on the issue of El Paso, you know, no, when people ask me is he responsible for these killings? Well no he obviously didn’t pull the trigger but he sure been tweeting out the ammunition.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/08/12/kamala-harris-trump-didnt-pull-the-trigger-in-el-paso-but-he-tweeted-out-the-ammunition/


This is crazy and dangerous use of a political platform. I guess if fake news can't get the job done get it straight from the appaloosa's mouth.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on August 13, 2019, 03:50:04 PM
On Ferguson, Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris Told a Terrible Lie
By DAVID FRENCH
August 12, 2019

Their falsehoods were immoral, divisive, and quite possibly unlawful.

On Friday afternoon, two of the leading contenders in the Democratic presidential primary lied. There’s no other fair way to put it. They flat-out spread fiction, libeled an innocent man, and stoked American divisions — all for political gain.

Five years ago, a Ferguson, Mo., police officer named Darren Wilson shot a young black man named Michael Brown to death after an altercation in the street. False rumors about Brown’s death — namely that he was shot in cold blood while trying to surrender with his hands in the air — ignited violent protests in Missouri and revulsion across the United States.

“Hands up, don’t shoot” became a national rallying cry — until the Obama Department of Justice comprehensively and thoroughly debunked it in a lengthy report published on March 4, 2015. Writing in December of the same year, the Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler called the slogan one of “the biggest Pinocchios of the year.”

But Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren ignored the Obama DOJ. They blew straight through the facts of the case and published these accusations:

Kamala Harris

@KamalaHarris
 Michael Brown’s murder forever changed Ferguson and America. His tragic death sparked a desperately needed conversation and a nationwide movement. We must fight for stronger accountability and racial equity in our justice system.

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Elizabeth Warren

@ewarren
 5 years ago Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. Michael was unarmed yet he was shot 6 times. I stand with activists and organizers who continue the fight for justice for Michael. We must confront systemic racism and police violence head on.

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To demonstrate just how preposterous it is to accuse Wilson of murder, it’s worth revisiting the actual facts of the case, according to the best evidence available to the investigators. On August 9, 2014, Michael Brown and a friend were walking in the middle of the street shortly after Brown had stolen cigarillos from a local market and shoved away the store clerk when he tried to intervene.

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When Wilson first spotted Brown and his friend, he told them to walk on the sidewalk. He then realized that they matched the description of the theft suspects and blocked their path with his vehicle.

Wilson tried to open his door, but it either bounced off Brown or Brown slammed it shut. Brown then reached into the vehicle and started punching Wilson. As Wilson fended off the blows, he reached for his gun. Brown allegedly tried to take the gun from Wilson, and Wilson managed to get a shot off, injuring Brown in the hand. Eyewitnesses corroborated Wilson’s claims that Brown was reaching in the car, and these claims were further corroborated by “bruising on Wilson’s jaw and scratches on his neck, the presence of Brown’s DNA on Wilson’s collar, shirt, and pants, and Wilson’s DNA on Brown’s palm.”

Brown then started to run away. After a brief pause Wilson pursued, ordering Brown to stop. Brown then turned back to Wilson and started running toward him. According to the report, “several witnesses stated that Brown appeared to pose a physical threat to Wilson as he moved toward Wilson.” Wilson fired again, striking Brown several times, yet Brown kept moving toward Wilson until the final shot hit him in the head, killing him.

The report’s conclusion was crystal clear:

Given that Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses, to include aspects of the testimony of [Brown’s friend], there is no credible evidence that Wilson willfully shot Brown as he was attempting to surrender or was otherwise not posing a threat. [Emphasis added.]

The report flatly declared that Wilson “did not act with the requisite criminal intent.”

“No credible evidence” is a powerful statement, but if you read the report, it’s a powerful statement based not just on extensive forensic evidence but also on the courageous testimony of witnesses who feared reprisal for speaking the truth. One witness, a 58-year-old black male, told prosecutors that there were signs in the neighborhood that said “Snitches get stitches.” Yet he spoke the truth anyway. Other witnesses overcame their fears and spoke the truth.

How do we have confidence that they spoke the truth? Because, as the report notes, their statements “have been materially consistent, are consistent with the physical evidence, and . . . are mutually corroborative.”

To be sure, there were other witnesses. Some neither incriminated him nor fully corroborated him. And there was an entire category of witnesses whose accounts were “inconsistent with the physical and forensic evidence,” the report noted, adding:

Some of those accounts are materially inconsistent with that witness’s own prior statements with no explanation, credible [or] otherwise, as to why those accounts changed over time. Certain other witnesses who originally stated Brown had his hands up in surrender recanted their original accounts, admitting that they did not witness the shooting or parts of it, despite what they initially reported either to federal or local law enforcement or to the media.

There are few more fraught issues in American public life than the question of police shootings — especially police shootings of black men. I’ve written about the issue time and time again and have come to believe not only that too many American police officers resort to deadly force too quickly but also that there is an unacceptable pro-police bias in our criminal-justice system. There is also evidence that race plays a more malignant role in policing than many of us hoped.

Indeed, while we must of course remember the DOJ’s report exonerating Darren Wilson, we should also remember that there was a second DOJ report in 2015 that found systematic misconduct at the Ferguson Police Department, misconduct that disproportionately affected Ferguson’s black citizens. I urge you to read both reports, and if you read the second report with an open mind, you’ll almost certainly come to believe that Ferguson’s black residents possessed legitimate grievances against their police department.

That’s the complicated nation we inhabit, but the complexity does not mean there aren’t simple obligations that attach to every politician, activist, and member of the media. And the simplest of those obligations is a commitment to the truth. We know that lies and falsehoods can cause riots. They can cause city blocks to burn. They can destroy a man’s life. At the very least, they can further embitter an already toxic public discourse. When issues are most fraught, the obligation of courageous, honest leadership is most imperative.

But Warren and Harris’s failure is more than a failure of leadership. The publication of a false accusation of a crime like murder is libelous under American law. In other words, their lies may well have been illegal. Democrats — especially Democrats who seek to address the very real challenges surrounding police violence in the United States — should demand better. Harris and Warren should do better. They should correct and retract their false statements. There is no excuse for their inflammatory lies.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/elizabeth-warren-kamala-harris-ferguson-michael-brown/

The number of Dem candidates who choose truth over facts has increased by 200%.  :o
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 13, 2019, 04:04:04 PM
Billionaire Tom Steyer has nearly spent his way to a spot in the third Democratic debate

Billionaire Tom Steyer's presidential campaign says it has reached the 130,000 donor threshold for the third 2020 Democratic presidential debate.

It leaves Steyer just one qualifying poll short of making the debate stage in Houston next month.

The former hedge-fund manager and activist has piled millions into both Facebook and television ads since he entered the presidential race last month.


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After piling money into ads, billionaire Tom Steyer has hit the donor requirement for the next 2020 Democratic presidential debate, his campaign said Tuesday.

The former hedge-fund manager and activist reached the 130,000 individual donor mark required to make the debate stage in Houston next month. Steyer now needs to garner 2% of support in one more qualifying poll to join nine other Democrats in the debate. Candidates have until Aug. 28 to qualify.

Steyer, known for funneling millions of dollars into a push to impeach President Donald Trump, took a unique path to the cusp of qualifying for the debates. He entered the presidential race in July — months later than most of his rivals — pledging to spend $100 million of his own money on his bid. He then blanketed Facebook with ads — many of which urged supporters to donate $1 to his campaign.


Steyer's campaign shelled out $2.9 million on Facebook ads in the 30 days from July 13 to Aug. 11, according to the company's ads archive. The total nearly tripled the next biggest spender in the Democratic field — Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, a New York Democrat whose campaign put just more than $1 million into Facebook ads during the same period.


If Steyer ends up making the debate stage, some of his rivals will likely target him as an example of the corrosive influence of money in politics. On Tuesday, Montana Gov. Steve Bullock — who is struggling to make the third debate — tweeted that Steyer spent millions "to buy his way onto the debate stage."

"But no matter what the [Democratic National Committee] says, money doesn't vote. People do," Bullock said. The Steyer campaign did not immediately respond to a request to comment on Bullock's criticism.

http://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/08/13/billionaire-tom-steyer-hits-donor-threshold-for-2020-democratic-debate.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on August 13, 2019, 06:24:09 PM
Depends on what you consider a warm welcome. If you go to a an event and only a couple of people will talk to you, it just doesn't seem like that warm a welcome. I guess you could argue that if the few he actually got to speak with warmly welcomed him this is somewhat redeeming. Honestly, I wouldn't expect Trump or any other politician for that matter to acknowledge when such a visit is a failure. It's just that Trump so often sees things through rose colored glasses when it suits him.
Seems there are plenty of pics of Trump at the hospital surrounded by smiling, happy people.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 13, 2019, 06:34:50 PM
Depends on what you consider a warm welcome. If you go to a an event and only a couple of people will talk to you, it just doesn't seem like that warm a welcome. I guess you could argue that if the few he actually got to speak with warmly welcomed him this is somewhat redeeming. Honestly, I wouldn't expect Trump or any other politician for that matter to acknowledge when such a visit is a failure. It's just that Trump so often sees things through rose colored glasses when it suits him.

It’s not an “event” like a social event you moron, it’s a hospital visit to wounded shooting victims. Stick your warmly welcomed up your cock-ridden ass.

It is unbelievable that a complete lying retard like you would ever criticize someone for seeing the world through rose colored glasses. You are so far detached from reality and normal thought that you really should be put out of your misery. I cannot begin to understand why Ron even allows you to still have an account here, between your stupidity, non-sequiters, and your open trolling for cock.

I am feel sorrow and shame for your ex-wife. A day is coming soon where you will pay the piper for your deviant behavior.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on August 14, 2019, 10:48:31 AM

This is crazy and dangerous use of a political platform. I guess if fake news can't get the job done get it straight from the appaloosa's mouth.

True about Trump as well. His recklessness on Twitter and his rallies can be dangerous.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 14, 2019, 12:47:49 PM
It’s not an “event” like a social event you moron, it’s a hospital visit to wounded shooting victims. Stick your warmly welcomed up your cock-ridden ass.

It is unbelievable that a complete lying retard like you would ever criticize someone for seeing the world through rose colored glasses. You are so far detached from reality and normal thought that you really should be put out of your misery. I cannot begin to understand why Ron even allows you to still have an account here, between your stupidity, non-sequiters, and your open trolling for cock.

I am feel sorrow and shame for your ex-wife. A day is coming soon where you will pay the piper for your deviant behavior.

JustPlainInsane 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 14, 2019, 05:58:24 PM
JustPlainInsane 

I wish I could overnight mail you brain cancer.

Your AIDS is taking way too long to kill you.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on August 14, 2019, 06:17:30 PM
True about Trump as well. His recklessness on Twitter and his rallies can be dangerous.
What about when Madonna says she wants to blow up the white house? Or when Maxine waters encourages her supporters to harass Trump supporters at restaurants and run them out of town, or when Robert dinero says he wants to punch Trump in the face? There's a ton of other examples I could give of left wing politicians, actors, musicians, etc promoting violence against Trump, his family and his supporters so spare me with your bullshit "recklessness on Twitter" ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 14, 2019, 07:41:04 PM
What about when Madonna says she wants to blow up the white house? Or when Maxine waters encourages her supporters to harass Trump supporters at restaurants and run them out of town, or when Robert dinero says he wants to punch Trump in the face? There's a ton of other examples I could give of left wing politicians, actors, musicians, etc promoting violence against Trump, his family and his supporters so spare me with your bullshit "recklessness on Twitter" ::)

Right?  Plenty of examples of actual violence in this thread:  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=625779.0
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 14, 2019, 07:52:53 PM
I wish I could overnight mail you brain cancer.

Your AIDS is taking way too long to kill you.

U will die before I.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 14, 2019, 07:54:23 PM
True about Trump as well. His recklessness on Twitter and his rallies can be dangerous.


His rallies are dangerous? You hate normal US citizens.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 14, 2019, 09:03:14 PM
U will die before I.

There is zero chance of that.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 15, 2019, 05:08:13 PM
POLL: ELIZABETH WARREN JUMPS OUT TO BIG LEAD IN THE IOWA CAUCUS

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Elizabeth Warren’s early investment in Iowa is paying off.

A new Iowa Starting Line-Change Research poll shows the senator opening up a commanding lead in the Iowa Caucus. Warren was the top pick of 28% of likely Iowa Caucus-goers in the poll, an 11-point lead over the nearest competitor. Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders were both tied for second with 17% each. Pete Buttigieg came in fourth at 13% and Kamala Harris has the backing of 8%.

Both Cory Booker and Beto O’Rourke garnered 3% of caucus-goers’ support, while Steve Bullock, Tulsi Gabbard, Amy Klobuchar and Tom Steyer got on the board at 2%. Julian Castro, Michael Bennet and Andrew Yang rounded out the field at 1%, while everyone else had less than that.

The poll was conducted online August 9 to 11, right in the middle of peak Iowa State Fair campaigning, and surveyed 621 likely Democratic caucus-goers on questions related to the Democratic horserace. That part of the poll had a ±3.9% margin of error.

The horserace numbers reflect a shake-up that those of us on the ground in Iowa have been seeing for a while. It also shows significant movement from our last Starting Line-Change Research poll from May 15 to 19. Here’s where the top candidates stood in that poll, along with their movement since:

May Poll (change to August)
Joe Biden: 24% (-7)
Bernie Sanders: 24% (-7)
Pete Buttigieg: 14% (-1)
Elizabeth Warren: 12% (+16)
Kamala Harris: 10% (-2)
Beto O’Rourke: 5% (-2)

Today’s results come after an incredibly packed week of campaigning in Iowa, one where enthusiasm and organization on the ground for candidates like Warren were readily apparent.


 
The senator spent a considerable amount of time on Iowa trips during the winter and spring, locking in activists and volunteers early on. Warren was also the quickest in the field to build up a strong ground game here, stocked with veteran Iowa Caucus staffers.

In this poll, Sanders has not fallen as much in the standings as in some early other states, but he has slipped from his previous first-place tie with Biden. His core group of support in Iowa has slowly shrunk down to the left-most activist base, but he also has the potential to turn out many new caucus-goers, which may be more accurately reflected in online polls such as these.

https://iowastartingline.com/2019/08/15/poll-elizabeth-warren-jumps-out-to-big-lead-in-the-iowa-caucus/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 15, 2019, 07:43:13 PM
The field is narrowing.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 15, 2019, 09:40:31 PM
I really thought somebody better than Steyer was going to jump in by now.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on August 16, 2019, 08:32:35 PM
woosh?

(https://i.ibb.co/L6Ld3Tb/fb1.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 16, 2019, 09:25:07 PM
Old white guys.

Biden got a face lift and now looks 100. What does this guy offer the average AOC voter?


(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/tw_image_9_4/public/bidenoldcandidatesbb.jpg?itok=o6KBWrJg&resize=1260x560)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on August 17, 2019, 06:47:31 AM
Old white guys.

Biden got a face lift and now looks 100. What does this guy offer the average AOC voter?


(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/tw_image_9_4/public/bidenoldcandidatesbb.jpg?itok=o6KBWrJg&resize=1260x560)

The average AOC voter is statistically irrelevant, based on the numbers who voted her in.

And her approval ratings are awful.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 17, 2019, 07:21:17 AM
Old white guys.

Biden got a face lift and now looks 100. What does this guy offer the average AOC voter?


(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/tw_image_9_4/public/bidenoldcandidatesbb.jpg?itok=o6KBWrJg&resize=1260x560)

Very, very little. I would venture to say the majority of her supporters do not even like the guy but the DNC is evidently dead set on dragging that corpse across the finish line.

Kind of looks like an old Roger Ebert in that shot.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 17, 2019, 10:01:26 PM
The average AOC voter is statistically irrelevant, based on the numbers who voted her in.

And her approval ratings are awful.



Then why do a majority of the candidates parrot her ideas?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on August 18, 2019, 11:04:07 AM
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery...”- Winston Churchill

Equal misery for all underlings is what the Dimocraps desire.  Fuck Their Noise.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on August 18, 2019, 11:12:29 AM

Then why do a majority of the candidates parrot her ideas?

Because they’re Dim-O-Craps.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on August 18, 2019, 11:13:09 AM
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery...”- Winston Churchill

Equal misery for all underlings is what the Dimocraps desire.  Fuck Their Noise.


Great Like It
Dim-O-Craps

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 23, 2019, 08:49:36 AM
Jay Who?


Jay Inslee, the climate candidate of 2020, is ending his campaign

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Washington Gov. Jay Inslee is officially out of the Democratic race for president, he told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Wednesday night. But he’s still intent on keeping climate change at the forefront of the national conversation.


“It’s become clear that I’m not going to be carrying the ball, I’m not going to be the president,” Inslee told Maddow Wednesday night. “I’m withdrawing from the race, but I’ve been fighting climate change for 25 years, and I’ve never been so confident of the ability of America now to reach critical mass to move the ball.”

http://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/8/21/20706159/jay-inslee-ends-campaign-for-president-climate
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on August 23, 2019, 10:02:36 AM
Jay Who?


Jay Inslee, the climate candidate of 2020, is ending his campaign

(https://psarab.com/en/upload/news/image_1566439316_46755326.jpg)

Washington Gov. Jay Inslee is officially out of the Democratic race for president, he told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Wednesday night. But he’s still intent on keeping climate change at the forefront of the national conversation.


“It’s become clear that I’m not going to be carrying the ball, I’m not going to be the president,” Inslee told Maddow Wednesday night. “I’m withdrawing from the race, but I’ve been fighting climate change for 25 years, and I’ve never been so confident of the ability of America now to reach critical mass to move the ball.”

http://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/8/21/20706159/jay-inslee-ends-campaign-for-president-climate

No worries.. he's just tasked with making WA as much a shithole as CA as fast as possible

TPTB have him with an already very important job
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 26, 2019, 02:08:24 PM
Poll: Bernie, Warren surge to tie Biden atop Democratic field

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Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have surged to tie with Joe Biden atop the Democratic presidential field, according to a poll that suggests the three are solidifying their status as the top tier in the massive field.

The Monmouth University poll, released Monday, shows Sanders and Warren deadlocked among Democratic voters at 20 percent, with Biden a point behind, at 19 percent. No other candidate cracks double digits: Kamala Harris is in fourth place, at 8 percent.


Compared with the Monmouth poll in June, Sanders has ticked up 6 points, and Warren 5 points. Biden dropped 13 points, from 32 percent in June.

The poll shows Biden’s slippage coming across the Democratic electorate, rather than from a specific demographic or ideological group. He is down 14 points among white and nonwhite voters. He’s down 14 points among men, and 13 points among women. He’s down 15 points among voters younger than 50 years old, and 9 percent among voters 50 and older.

Biden also slipped 18 points among Democratic voters who described themselves as moderate or conservative, and 9 points among self-identified liberals.

“The main takeaway from this poll is that the Democratic race has become volatile,” said Patrick Murray, director of the Monmouth University Polling Institute. “Liberal voters are starting to cast about for a candidate they can identify with. Moderate voters, who have been paying less attention, seem to be expressing doubts about Biden. But they are swinging more toward one of the left-leaning contenders with high name recognition rather than toward a lesser known candidate who might be more in line with them politically.”

The Monmouth poll is the first major national poll all year to show a candidate other than Biden in the lead. It differs from some surveys conducted over similar time periods. A CNN/SSRS national poll, conducted Aug. 15-18, showed Biden at 29 percent, significantly ahead of Sanders (15 percent) and Warren (14 percent).

The Monmouth poll, which was conducted Aug. 16-20, surveyed 298 Democratic voters. The margin of error is plus or minus 5.7 percentage points.

http://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/08/26/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-joe-biden-poll-1475440
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on August 26, 2019, 05:17:37 PM
Poll: Bernie, Warren surge to tie Biden atop Democratic field

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRXMxFVgpAxmAgDMEDrHLLe0H7gQumqea3iFp6nPPHM_KfwTtdR)

Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have surged to tie with Joe Biden atop the Democratic presidential field, according to a poll that suggests the three are solidifying their status as the top tier in the massive field.

The Monmouth University poll, released Monday, shows Sanders and Warren deadlocked among Democratic voters at 20 percent, with Biden a point behind, at 19 percent. No other candidate cracks double digits: Kamala Harris is in fourth place, at 8 percent.


Compared with the Monmouth poll in June, Sanders has ticked up 6 points, and Warren 5 points. Biden dropped 13 points, from 32 percent in June.

The poll shows Biden’s slippage coming across the Democratic electorate, rather than from a specific demographic or ideological group. He is down 14 points among white and nonwhite voters. He’s down 14 points among men, and 13 points among women. He’s down 15 points among voters younger than 50 years old, and 9 percent among voters 50 and older.

Biden also slipped 18 points among Democratic voters who described themselves as moderate or conservative, and 9 points among self-identified liberals.

“The main takeaway from this poll is that the Democratic race has become volatile,” said Patrick Murray, director of the Monmouth University Polling Institute. “Liberal voters are starting to cast about for a candidate they can identify with. Moderate voters, who have been paying less attention, seem to be expressing doubts about Biden. But they are swinging more toward one of the left-leaning contenders with high name recognition rather than toward a lesser known candidate who might be more in line with them politically.”

The Monmouth poll is the first major national poll all year to show a candidate other than Biden in the lead. It differs from some surveys conducted over similar time periods. A CNN/SSRS national poll, conducted Aug. 15-18, showed Biden at 29 percent, significantly ahead of Sanders (15 percent) and Warren (14 percent).

The Monmouth poll, which was conducted Aug. 16-20, surveyed 298 Democratic voters. The margin of error is plus or minus 5.7 percentage points.

http://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/08/26/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-joe-biden-poll-1475440

How in the world could either Bernie or Warren win a general election?  I cannot envision independents and crossover Republicans for either one of them. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 26, 2019, 05:27:22 PM
If I had to bet now, I would still go with Biden.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 26, 2019, 05:49:01 PM
If I had to bat now, I would still go with Biden.

I could see a scenario where Warren takes Iowa, Bernie takes New Hampshire and Biden takes South Carolina with help from the black vote.

Then the dog fight truly begins.

If Biden takes Iowa and South Carolina then he is really in the driver seat at that point.

A month ago I thought that Biden would take all 3 states and coast to an easy victory but his cognitive issues are so glaringly obvious at this point.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on August 27, 2019, 03:04:17 AM
Beto O’Rourke Grills a Cheeseburger to Prove He’s ‘Just Like You’

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Presidential hopeful Beto O’Rourke (D), nonetheless struggling to crack three p.c in most polls, took a break from the marketing campaign path to grill some burgers, in response to a video posted Friday.
The video surfaced final week, exhibiting the previous Texas lawmaker grilling a burger on a stovetop and putting a slice of cheese on the patty, barely off-center. He seems to serve the dish with a facet of broccoli– an uncommon companion for the American traditional. At a look, it appears to be like like he locations the patty on an English muffin– one other unconventional alternative for such a meal:

Beto makes a burger pic.twitter.com/PywGSE58jD

— Behind 2020 (@Behind2020) August 24, 2019

It stays unclear how O’Rourke – a fierce local weather change activist who as soon as known as the phenomenon the “greatest existential threat” we face – reconciles serving pink meat, as many local weather change alarmists attribute the festering local weather “crisis,” partially, to beef consumption:


Local weather change is our best existential menace. If you happen to imagine voters deserve to listen to how each candidate will meet this problem, add your identify. https://t.co/bb46cVwUJd

— Beto O’Rourke (@BetoORourke) August 24, 2019

That is removed from the primary time O’Rourke has tried to remind the American individuals that he’s “just like them.”



https://www.headlinezpro.com/beto-orourke-grills-a-cheeseburger-to-prove-hes-just-like-you/amp/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 27, 2019, 02:45:31 PM
Might want to take "chef Beto" with a grain of salt:


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/beto-orourke-reportedly-put-childs-turd-in-a-bowl-and-told-his-wife-it-was-an-avocado


 ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 27, 2019, 04:28:38 PM
Might want to take "chef Beto" with a grain of salt:


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/beto-orourke-reportedly-put-childs-turd-in-a-bowl-and-told-his-wife-it-was-an-avocado


 ;D

You might also want to take this article in The Washington Examiner with a grain of salt. Honestly, the dumb crap the media publishes should be ignored, even if true. There is no relevance between this supposed prank and Beto running for president. Maybe the media can find some questionable women he's paid hush money to as well.  ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on August 27, 2019, 05:38:38 PM
Honestly, the dumb crap the media publishes should be ignored, even if true.
Quoted for relevance.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 27, 2019, 08:43:32 PM
You might also want to take this article in The Washington Examiner with a grain of salt. Honestly, the dumb crap the media publishes should be ignored, even if true. There is no relevance between this supposed prank and Beto running for president. Maybe the media can find some questionable women he's paid hush money to as well.  ::)



Would you like me to post the same story from multiple other sources or are we just covering our ears when we hear something we don't like now?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 28, 2019, 12:13:45 AM


Would you like me to post the same story from multiple other sources or are we just covering our ears when we hear something we don't like now?

Hear no evil if that makes you happy.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 28, 2019, 06:24:25 PM
Beto is/was a flash in the pan douche.

Where’s Tulsi?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on August 28, 2019, 07:45:41 PM
Here no evil if that makes you happy.
I like to hear a little evil from time to time.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 29, 2019, 10:03:45 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/joe-biden-warned-welfare-mothers-153757453.html


Joe Biden was right in 1988, then writing:


"We are all too familiar with the stories of welfare mothers driving luxury cars and leading lifestyles that mirror the rich and famous," the column read. "Whether they are exaggerated or not, these stories underlie a broad social concern that the welfare system has broken down — that it only parcels out welfare checks and does nothing to help the poor find productive jobs."
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on August 31, 2019, 02:40:49 PM
I like to hear a little evil from time to time.

Thanks teach'.😊
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on August 31, 2019, 03:32:13 PM
Beto is/was a flash in the pan douche.

Where’s Tulsi?

She just completed an active duty stint - she's a Major in the National Guard reserve.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on September 04, 2019, 07:23:38 AM
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wooooosh
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 04, 2019, 08:10:43 AM
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wooooosh

Did she actually date him or is this just speculation with no proof?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on September 04, 2019, 08:22:34 AM
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wooooosh


Kamala Harris launched political career with $120K 'patronage' job from boyfriend Willie Brown

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eGiuOZOMlAE/maxresdefault.jpg)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/01/27/willie-brown-kamala-harris-san-francisco-chronicle-letter/2695143002/





Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 04, 2019, 09:26:12 AM
Did she actually date him or is this just speculation with no proof?

Just a bunch of gay for pay.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on September 04, 2019, 01:08:35 PM
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wooooosh

Who cares?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on September 04, 2019, 01:59:15 PM
Who cares?

That gold digger of a Whore Certainly doesn’t care.
Just another Pocahontas type bitch doing anything to
Get herself ahead.

Good luck to them,
Only Not the type of whores I’d want in charge that’s for sure.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on September 04, 2019, 02:53:31 PM
Who cares?

Her sphincter strongly objected to the dick pounding it received
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on September 04, 2019, 02:57:23 PM
Her sphincter strongly objected to the dick pounding it received

(https://i.redd.it/845ppm2fe1q11.gif)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on September 04, 2019, 02:58:12 PM
That gold digger of a Whore Certainly doesn’t care.
Just another Pocahontas type bitch doing anything to
Get herself ahead.

Good luck to them,
Only Not the type of whores I’d want in charge that’s for sure.

Hate women in power much? Most men will also do anything to get themselves ahead. Do you fault them as well? Most folks don't. What's good for the gander isn't usually acceptable for the goose....right?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 04, 2019, 04:02:53 PM
Hate women in power much? Most men will also do anything to get themselves ahead. Do you fault them as well? Most folks don't. What's good for the gander isn't usually acceptable for the goose....right?




(https://media.tenor.com/images/ab07b2aa3934edbc8dd2279a8f751990/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 04, 2019, 04:19:55 PM
Hate women in power much? Most men will also do anything to get themselves ahead. Do you fault them as well? Most folks don't. What's good for the gander isn't usually acceptable for the goose....right?

Lol.   :D  :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on September 04, 2019, 05:24:50 PM
Hate women in power much? Most men will also do anything to get themselves ahead. Do you fault them as well? Most folks don't. What's good for the gander isn't usually acceptable for the goose....right?

Yes pretty much I do.
It’s a Patriarchal Made society & Has Been that way since day one
Now that we have many Women in positions of What were Male Roles
Things are Turning Bad Very Quickly - Look at most Female run Countries.

By Nature Men & Women have Very Different Roles & Mentalities- Fact.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 04, 2019, 06:16:06 PM
Yes pretty much I do.
It’s a Patriarchal Made society & Has Been that way since day one
Now that we have many Women in positions of What were Male Roles
Things are Turning Bad Very Quickly - Look at most Female run Countries.

By Nature Men & Women have Very Different Roles & Mentalities- Fact.

Prime seems to want to be dominated by a Hillary or merkle type
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on September 05, 2019, 04:16:01 AM
Biden's eye fills with blood during CNN climate town hall

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDqSNh0XoAA4BTb?format=jpg&name=small)

Former Vice President Joe Biden appeared to have a blood vessel burst in his left eye while participating in CNN's town hall on climate change.

A broken blood vessel in the eye, also known as a subconjuctival hemorrhage, can be caused by several things, including high blood pressure, bleeding disorders, blood thinners, or even excessive straining.

Biden, 76, has long been plagued by health issues. In 1988, he suffered an aneurysm that burst and required him to undergo emergency surgery. The then-senator was so close to death that a Catholic priest began preparing to administer the sacrament of last rites.

Months later, surgeons clipped a second aneurysm before it burst. Biden then took a seven-month leave from the Senate following the surgery. Describing the operation, he once said, “They literally had to take the top of my head off.”

Jill Biden said in her recently released autobiography Where the Light Enters that, at the time, she feared her husband would never be the same. "Our doctor told us there was a 50-50 chance Joe wouldn't survive surgery," she wrote. "He also said that it was even more likely that Joe would have permanent brain damage if he survived. And if any part of his brain would be adversely affected, it would be the area that governed speech."

Doctors removed a benign polyp during a colonoscopy in 1996. In 2003, Biden had his gallbladder removed.

He suffers from asthma and allergies and takes a prescription drug to lower his cholesterol. He has also taken medication for an enlarged prostate.

Biden hasn’t disclosed his medical history since 2008, when doctors found he had an irregular heartbeat.

Biden has also raised eyebrows for the increasing number of verbal blunders he has made so far on the 2020 campaign trail, the schedule of which has been markedly lighter than his main rivals.

Those close to Biden nevertheless maintain that he is "a picture of health," according to a former aide who spoke to the Washington Examiner in April. Were he to win the 2020 presidential election, he would be the oldest president ever to be inaugurated.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/bidens-eye-fills-with-blood-during-cnn-climate-town-hall
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 05, 2019, 08:24:27 AM
He done. Like DONE DONE.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on September 06, 2019, 02:42:19 PM
Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz formally announces he won't run in 2020

(https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/howard-schultz-file-gty-ml-190906_hpMain_4x3_1600.jpg)

Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz announced in a letter to his supporters on Friday that he is formally forgoing an independent presidential run in 2020.

"I have concluded that an independent campaign for the White House is not how I can best serve our country at this time," Schultz writes in a letter to supporters posted on his website.


In the three-page letter, the businessman lays out why he's abandoning a presidential run -- acknowledging the risk that if he ran his name would appear on general election ballots "even if a moderate Democrat wins the nomination" and back issues stemming from April led him to decide not to launch an independent bid.

Critics of Schultz are sure to breathe a sigh of relief, as some Democrat's viewed the former CEO's potential independent candidacy as a sure-way to reelect President Donald Trump—an argument the billionaire now seems to side with after defending his potential candidacy throughout 2019.

The former CEO's never-fully-realized campaign was hinged on the idea that voters were looking for a moderate voice amid growing polarization but often faced criticem for playing both sides of issues without offering substantive plans forward. And in announcing he would not run on Friday, Schultz bemoaned that Americans weren't supportive of independent candidates.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/starbucks-ceo-howard-schultz-formally-announces-run-2020/story%3fid=65427175
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on September 06, 2019, 04:00:41 PM
Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz formally announces he won't run in 2020

(https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/howard-schultz-file-gty-ml-190906_hpMain_4x3_1600.jpg)

Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz announced in a letter to his supporters on Friday that he is formally forgoing an independent presidential run in 2020.

"I have concluded that an independent campaign for the White House is not how I can best serve our country at this time," Schultz writes in a letter to supporters posted on his website.


In the three-page letter, the businessman lays out why he's abandoning a presidential run -- acknowledging the risk that if he ran his name would appear on general election ballots "even if a moderate Democrat wins the nomination" and back issues stemming from April led him to decide not to launch an independent bid.

Critics of Schultz are sure to breathe a sigh of relief, as some Democrat's viewed the former CEO's potential independent candidacy as a sure-way to reelect President Donald Trump—an argument the billionaire now seems to side with after defending his potential candidacy throughout 2019.

The former CEO's never-fully-realized campaign was hinged on the idea that voters were looking for a moderate voice amid growing polarization but often faced criticem for playing both sides of issues without offering substantive plans forward. And in announcing he would not run on Friday, Schultz bemoaned that Americans weren't supportive of independent candidates.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/starbucks-ceo-howard-schultz-formally-announces-run-2020/story%3fid=65427175

I don't blame him.  Why would we leave his incredible job to go get savaged by the media and politicians, especially when the establishment has already crowned Biden as the nominee? 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on September 06, 2019, 10:33:17 PM
'You need to ask first': Iowa teacher blasts Biden for grabbing her hands when she asked him a question


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by Naomi Lim
 | September 06, 2019 12:19 PM
 

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa — Joe Biden left an Iowa teacher unimpressed with his canned response to her question about collective bargaining, but what she resented more was how he abruptly seized her hands and clung onto them.

Jessica Roman, 41, had stopped Biden, 76, as he greeted voters on Monday during the Hawkeye Area Labor Council's Labor Day picnic in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. The North Liberty preschool teacher, who works with special needs children, was pressing the former vice president on his plans to help unionized members of her profession under recent changes to Iowa's collective bargaining laws when he reached for her hands.

"I think that he means well but, you know, he grabbed my hands right away and that was really uncomfortable," she told the Washington Examiner. "He was very close and, in my mind, I'm like, this is part of our problem: Not recognizing that you need to ask first, or can I shake your hand? Not just grab your hands and hang onto them. That bothers me."

The interaction was witnessed by the Washington Examiner and captured on video from two different angles.

Roman, who is leaning toward caucusing for California Sen. Kamala Harris or Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, wanted a more detailed answer to her question about collective bargaining in Iowa, which has a restrictive framework similar to Wisconsin. It was "a very well rehearsed list" that "didn't really speak" to her inquiry, she said.

Biden has been accused by at least eight women of touching them without permission. Amid a furor over the allegations, he said that he accepted that "social norms are changing," adding: "I will be more mindful about respecting personal space in the future. That’s my responsibility, and I will meet it." His wife Jill said that his unwanted contact "won't happen again." Days after his vow to change, however, Biden joked about the allegations.

Despite repeated advice from his staff, Biden still routinely touches women and children at events, whether they like it or not. A spokesman for the campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

Roman told the Washington Examiner she had major doubts about Biden's candidacy, his third bid for the White House. "I wouldn't say it's something that I didn't like but, you know, I'm in my 40s, I'm raising a teenager, I work with very young families, and he's not relevant," she said.

"It's been too long since he's raised a family, too long since he's lived on a normal paycheck. I want somebody that actually gets it, that understands what it is to live on the paychecks that we live on, the housing crisis that we have, all of the ways that those things affect us."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/you-need-to-ask-first-iowa-teacher-blasts-biden-for-grabbing-her-hands-when-she-asked-him-a-question
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 07, 2019, 07:41:07 PM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on September 07, 2019, 07:44:12 PM
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And this is all happening about a year before he even steps on stage with Trump.

How much more will his mental facilities have deteriorated by that point?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on September 07, 2019, 08:44:12 PM
'You need to ask first': Iowa teacher blasts Biden for grabbing her hands when she asked him a question


(https://mediadc.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/1a99871/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2290x1202+0+64/resize/1200x630!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmediadc.brightspotcdn.com%2F88%2F23%2F075d1c594860b70bf7e3c3c118c6%2Fbiden-handgrab.png)

by Naomi Lim
 | September 06, 2019 12:19 PM
 

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa — Joe Biden left an Iowa teacher unimpressed with his canned response to her question about collective bargaining, but what she resented more was how he abruptly seized her hands and clung onto them.

Jessica Roman, 41, had stopped Biden, 76, as he greeted voters on Monday during the Hawkeye Area Labor Council's Labor Day picnic in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. The North Liberty preschool teacher, who works with special needs children, was pressing the former vice president on his plans to help unionized members of her profession under recent changes to Iowa's collective bargaining laws when he reached for her hands.

"I think that he means well but, you know, he grabbed my hands right away and that was really uncomfortable," she told the Washington Examiner. "He was very close and, in my mind, I'm like, this is part of our problem: Not recognizing that you need to ask first, or can I shake your hand? Not just grab your hands and hang onto them. That bothers me."

The interaction was witnessed by the Washington Examiner and captured on video from two different angles.

Roman, who is leaning toward caucusing for California Sen. Kamala Harris or Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, wanted a more detailed answer to her question about collective bargaining in Iowa, which has a restrictive framework similar to Wisconsin. It was "a very well rehearsed list" that "didn't really speak" to her inquiry, she said.

Biden has been accused by at least eight women of touching them without permission. Amid a furor over the allegations, he said that he accepted that "social norms are changing," adding: "I will be more mindful about respecting personal space in the future. That’s my responsibility, and I will meet it." His wife Jill said that his unwanted contact "won't happen again." Days after his vow to change, however, Biden joked about the allegations.

Despite repeated advice from his staff, Biden still routinely touches women and children at events, whether they like it or not. A spokesman for the campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

Roman told the Washington Examiner she had major doubts about Biden's candidacy, his third bid for the White House. "I wouldn't say it's something that I didn't like but, you know, I'm in my 40s, I'm raising a teenager, I work with very young families, and he's not relevant," she said.

"It's been too long since he's raised a family, too long since he's lived on a normal paycheck. I want somebody that actually gets it, that understands what it is to live on the paychecks that we live on, the housing crisis that we have, all of the ways that those things affect us."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/you-need-to-ask-first-iowa-teacher-blasts-biden-for-grabbing-her-hands-when-she-asked-him-a-question

His Biden button is rotated nearly 90 degrees CCW.

(https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/APP-090619-Biden.jpg)

I hope he stays upright.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/8mJd5a4BOJXJm/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on September 08, 2019, 03:32:24 PM
Is Biden taking their support for granted?

Charlamagne tha God: Biden Suffering From ‘White Male Entitlement’

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Radio host Charlamagne tha God said former Democratic frontrunner Joe Biden was suffering from "white entitlement and privilege" and his past stances didn't demonstrate support for African Americans.

In an interview with CNN anchor Brooke Baldwin on Friday, he said the support in the polls Biden has from black voters was more a nod to his being Barack Obama's vice president than anything else.

"I think it's more bro-ism than anything," he said. "When I look at Joe Biden and I look at the '94 crime bill and I look at the '88 crack laws, like that's not being in support of African Americans at all."


Charlamagne's show The Breakfast Club has been a popular stop for 2020 Democratic candidates, including South Bend mayor Pete Buttigieg, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.), and Sen. Kamala Harris (D., Calif.). However, he revealed Biden had offered to send a black surrogate instead of agreeing to appear on the program himself.

"That tells me a lot about what Joe Biden thinks about our audience," he said. "I think Joe Biden might be suffering from that same white entitlement and privilege and ego where he's just that old-school white male who feels like, ‘Hey, man. They need me. I don't need them. Or, I got them already. So, yeah, my surrogate, my black male surrogate, you go talk to them.' That's not respect."

https://www.freebeacon.com/politics/charlamagne-tha-god-biden-suffering-from-white-male-entitlement/amp/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on September 13, 2019, 01:37:50 PM
A woman in a hot air balloon realizes she is lost.

She lowers her altitude and spots a man fishing from a boat below.

She shouts to him, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am."

The man consults his portable GPS and replies, "You're in a hot air balloon, approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2,346 feet above sea level. You are at 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude.


 She rolls her eyes and says, "You must be a Republican!" "I am," replies the man. "How did you know?" "Well," answers the balloonist, "everything you tell me is technically correct, but I have no idea what to do with
your information, and I'm still lost.

Frankly, you're not much help to me." The man smiles and responds, "You must be a Democrat." "I am, replies the balloonist.

"How did you know?" "Well," says the man, "You don't know where you are or where you're going. You've risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air.

You made a promise that you have no idea how to keep, and now you expect me to solve your problem.

You're in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but, somehow, now it's my fault."
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 13, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
A woman in a hot air balloon realizes she is lost.

She lowers her altitude and spots a man fishing from a boat below.

She shouts to him, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am."

The man consults his portable GPS and replies, "You're in a hot air balloon, approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2,346 feet above sea level. You are at 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude.


 She rolls her eyes and says, "You must be a Republican!" "I am," replies the man. "How did you know?" "Well," answers the balloonist, "everything you tell me is technically correct, but I have no idea what to do with
your information, and I'm still lost.

Frankly, you're not much help to me." The man smiles and responds, "You must be a Democrat." "I am, replies the balloonist.

"How did you know?" "Well," says the man, "You don't know where you are or where you're going. You've risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air.

You made a promise that you have no idea how to keep, and now you expect me to solve your problem.

You're in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but, somehow, now it's my fault."

Quoted for teh funny.



Also, how’s tulsi doing?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 13, 2019, 07:07:24 PM
My prediction is Biden. Not because he is the best, but because Democrats feel his is the safest. But his rambling answers cause some concern. I long for the days I was a child and never felt smarter than the sitting President or the potential next President. Those days are long gone. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on September 13, 2019, 11:46:48 PM
My prediction is Biden. Not because he is the best, but because Democrats feel his is the safest. But his rambling answers cause some concern. I long for the days I was a child and never felt smarter than the sitting President or the potential next President. Those days are long gone. 

After watching Wednesday's Democratic Presidential debate, I must say I hope he's not the party's choice. He has nothing new to offer. I'm an old guy who thinks we need intelligent young energetic and robust people in office....not another septuagenarian like Trump, Biden or Sanders.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on September 14, 2019, 07:41:14 AM
None of the candidates are really inspiring.  They're just pander, don't answer the question, or outright lie.  Biden was asked point blank twice by the hispanic moderator if all the deportations the Obama administration did were a mistake and he didn't answer.  The moderators should be more forceful.

They didn't even talk about the economy.

Fox should be able to host a democratic debate, and CNN a republican one, then maybe we'd get real questions and answers.

Of all people, Booker probably had the best debate last time.  Buttigieg also appears reasonable, but I don't like a lot of his policies.

Overall, it's a pile of "meh".


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on September 14, 2019, 09:03:46 AM

Overall, it's a pile of "meh".



Absolutely. I still can't get any of the hardcore, democratic, anti-Trumpers here to explain a positive policy that would improve America, it's all about hate Trump.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on September 14, 2019, 11:22:08 AM
Absolutely. I still can't get any of the hardcore, democratic, anti-Trumpers here to explain a positive policy that would improve America, it's all about hate Trump.

If I had the answer to what your asking and the means to deliver on my promise, I'd run for office and win. -Problem is, folks can't agree on what policies would be an improvement. You cannot please everyone. It is a no win situation. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on September 14, 2019, 02:03:02 PM
If I had the answer to what your asking and the means to deliver on my promise, I'd run for office and win. -Problem is, folks can't agree on what policies would be an improvement. You cannot please everyone. It is a no win situation. 

I think that NO current Democratic candidate:

Will improve the econony (mind you, I don't generally believe the President controls this, they are either unlucky or lucky based on the timing of their election with the current economic cycle.  However in Trump's case, I DO believe he inspires confidence in the market)

Will keep our military stong.

Will secure our borders.

Will take the chances to actually try to fix things - NK, China, etc.

So those are the things I'm pretty sure about.

I do believe healthcare, education costs, and our ability to care for our eldery without going broke are all things that need to be fixed, and I won't slam the door on the Democrats in this context.  However, free healthcare for all isn't feasible.  Outside of the cost, i'd have serious concerns around wait times, innovation in this area slowing down, and giving the gov't full control of everything.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on September 14, 2019, 02:24:13 PM
I think that NO current Democratic candidate:

Will improve the econony (mind you, I don't generally believe the President controls this, they are either unlucky or lucky based on the timing of their election with the current economic cycle.  However in Trump's case, I DO believe he inspires confidence in the market)

Will keep our military stong.

Will secure our borders.

Will take the chances to actually try to fix things - NK, China, etc.

So those are the things I'm pretty sure about.

I do believe healthcare, education costs, and our ability to care for our eldery without going broke are all things that need to be fixed, and I won't slam the door on the Democrats in this context.  However, free healthcare for all isn't feasible.  Outside of the cost, i'd have serious concerns around wait times, innovation in this area slowing down, and giving the gov't full control of everything.

...healthcare, education costs, and our ability to care for our elderly without going broke are all things that need to be fixed... I could not agree more. But then, I am bias.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on September 17, 2019, 02:24:03 PM
Warren continues to gain on Joe.

NBC/WSJ poll: Biden leads Dem 2020 field, Warren's support grows

While Biden dominates among more moderate Democrats and black voters, Warren overperforms among whites and liberals.



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Sept. 17, 2019, 3:59 PM CDT / Updated Sept. 17, 2019, 4:04 PM CDT
By Mark Murray
Former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., continue to top the Democratic 2020 presidential field after last week’s debate — in a race for the nomination that breaks along ideological and racial lines, according to a national NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Tuesday.

The survey also shows that Warren has the advantage in enthusiasm, and that she gets the most second-choice support.

Biden leads the overall horserace with backing from 31 percent of Democratic primary voters (up 5 points since July), while Warren gets 25 percent (up 6 points).

They’re followed by Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., at 14 percent (up 1 point), South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg is at 7 percent (unchanged) and Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., at 5 percent (down 8 points).

Entrepreneur Andrew Yang gets support from 4 percent of Democratic primary voters, and Sens. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., and Cory Booker, D-N.J., both get 2 percent.

No other Democratic presidential candidate gets more than 1 percent support in the poll, which was conducted Sept. 13-16 — immediately after Thursday’s debate in Houston.

So despite all of the debates and all the campaigning, the candidates who gained ground since July were the Top 3 of Biden, Warren and Sanders, says Republican pollster Bill McInturff, who conducted this survey with Democratic pollster Peter Hart and his firm.

“The race is more solid for the front-runners than it was in July,” McInturff said.

Important, however, only 9 percent of all Democratic respondents say their minds are definitely made up.

As a result, these numbers could very well change between now and next year’s early nominating contests in Iowa and New Hampshire.

“What we see in September isn’t what we see in December,” said Hart, the Democratic pollster.“There is going to be a change.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/nbc-wsj-poll-biden-leads-dem-2020-field-warren-s-n1055511
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on September 17, 2019, 06:46:28 PM
Warren continues to gain on Joe.

NBC/WSJ poll: Biden leads Dem 2020 field, Warren's support grows

While Biden dominates among more moderate Democrats and black voters, Warren overperforms among whites and liberals.



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Sept. 17, 2019, 3:59 PM CDT / Updated Sept. 17, 2019, 4:04 PM CDT
By Mark Murray
Former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., continue to top the Democratic 2020 presidential field after last week’s debate — in a race for the nomination that breaks along ideological and racial lines, according to a national NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Tuesday.

The survey also shows that Warren has the advantage in enthusiasm, and that she gets the most second-choice support.

Biden leads the overall horserace with backing from 31 percent of Democratic primary voters (up 5 points since July), while Warren gets 25 percent (up 6 points).

They’re followed by Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., at 14 percent (up 1 point), South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg is at 7 percent (unchanged) and Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., at 5 percent (down 8 points).

Entrepreneur Andrew Yang gets support from 4 percent of Democratic primary voters, and Sens. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., and Cory Booker, D-N.J., both get 2 percent.

No other Democratic presidential candidate gets more than 1 percent support in the poll, which was conducted Sept. 13-16 — immediately after Thursday’s debate in Houston.

So despite all of the debates and all the campaigning, the candidates who gained ground since July were the Top 3 of Biden, Warren and Sanders, says Republican pollster Bill McInturff, who conducted this survey with Democratic pollster Peter Hart and his firm.

“The race is more solid for the front-runners than it was in July,” McInturff said.

Important, however, only 9 percent of all Democratic respondents say their minds are definitely made up.

As a result, these numbers could very well change between now and next year’s early nominating contests in Iowa and New Hampshire.

“What we see in September isn’t what we see in December,” said Hart, the Democratic pollster.“There is going to be a change.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/nbc-wsj-poll-biden-leads-dem-2020-field-warren-s-n1055511

Unreal that Biden, Warren, and Sanders are the top three candidates.  I'm sure they could do worse, but all three are absolutely horrible. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on September 17, 2019, 09:47:53 PM
Brutal.  https://twitter.com/i/status/1173969845299363841
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on September 18, 2019, 06:39:18 AM
If Trump proved anything, it was that running for high office is more about branding and feelings then policy details.
People often vote for who they LIKE, not the one with the most knowledge.

Politics is very different from most other "contests".
In sports, the most skilled and talented tends to win.
In academics the smartest tend to get the best grades on tests.
We want to get operated on by the most skilled surgeon or our taxes prepared by the most knowledgeable CPA.

For example, I was a strong supporter of Ron Paul in a previous election.
Here was an MD with over 20 yrs in congress who served as an Air Force doc in Viet Nam.
His knowledge base , character and experience was outstanding.
BUT he was short and lacked the charisma of a front runner for President.
So, he never had a real shot at the GOP nomination.

The most experienced and knowledgeable candidates rarely gain traction with the masses.

There's your main man, Howie.

Ah but isn't he just so STEADFAST and VALIANT when his dementia kicks in.

Putting over 600 million non-existent women to work... that's gonna be quite the feat!

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden on Tuesday made the incredible claim that his proposed child tax credit would "put 720 million women back in the workforce."

https://freebeacon.com/politics/biden-child-tax-credit-will-put-720-million-women-back-in-the-workforce/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on September 18, 2019, 07:21:41 AM
If Trump proved anything, it was that running for high office is more about branding and feelings then policy details.
People often vote for who they LIKE, not the one with the most knowledge.

Brilliant insight.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on September 18, 2019, 08:30:48 AM
Thanks.
My wife and I used to be very involved in the libertarian party.
I considered running for state office as a libertarian once.

At a candidate workshop , they told us the number 1 thing was to be liked by voters.
After that experience, I gave up even thinking of running for any office.

Of course when you're liked by some , the others will dislike you.
They key is to get the number of likes to be a bit bigger . ;)

John McCain proved in 2000 , you can't be 100% candid and honest to be elected with his straight talk express.
People want to be told, what they want to hear...even if they know it's bullshit.
For example, " Mexico will pay for the wall" , was always total fiction.

BUT, most of the Trump supporters cheered wildly when he said it.

Thank you for now taking two paragraphs to explain to us that people vote for people they like.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on September 18, 2019, 09:25:47 AM
Thank you for now taking two paragraphs to explain to us that people vote for people they like.


Although I must admit it will be entertaining to watch Howard defend this poor old man who is clearly losing his mind over the coming months. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 18, 2019, 09:26:21 AM
Your dream girl Hillary ran on what issues ?


If Trump proved anything, it was that running for high office is more about branding and feelings then policy details.
People often vote for who they LIKE, not the one with the most knowledge.

Politics is very different from most other "contests".
In sports, the most skilled and talented tends to win.
In academics the smartest tend to get the best grades on tests.
We want to get operated on by the most skilled surgeon or our taxes prepared by the most knowledgeable CPA.

For example, I was a strong supporter of Ron Paul in a previous election.
Here was an MD with over 20 yrs in congress who served as an Air Force doc in Viet Nam.
His knowledge base , character and experience was outstanding.
BUT he was short and lacked the charisma of a front runner for President.
So, he never had a real shot at the GOP nomination.

The most experienced and knowledgeable candidates rarely gain traction with the masses.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on September 18, 2019, 12:22:39 PM
Your dream girl Hillary ran on what issues ?



HRC has a lifetime of political experience. This both helped a hindered her bid for President. But, why talk about her? She is not relevant as she bowed out this election cycle.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on September 18, 2019, 12:34:16 PM
HRC has a lifetime of having people "suicided"

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on September 18, 2019, 03:28:16 PM
HRC has a lifetime of political experience.
So does Biden, Harris, etc and that's part of the problem. They've all been in politics forever and want to blame a guy that's only been in politics for 3 years. :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on September 18, 2019, 05:21:18 PM
So does Biden, Harris, etc and that's part of the problem. They've all been in politics forever and want to blame a guy that's only been in politics for 3 years. :D

Poor Trump, he should have studied more before making the leap. Poor U.S. citizens, they have a President in training. Like with anything, you hire someone with no experience and you get someone who has no idea how to do the job they were hired to do. Sometimes you get lucky because the new hire is a quick study. Sometimes you don't because the new hire already thinks they know it all are refuses any expert advice.

There must be a happy middle ground somewhere between a career politician who time has passed and a total newbie who has no idea what they are doing and refuses any assistance.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on September 18, 2019, 05:26:56 PM
Poor Trump, he should have studied more before making the leap. Poor U.S. citizens, they have a President in training. Like with anything, you hire someone with no experience and you get someone who has no idea how to do the job they were hired to do. Sometimes you get lucky because the new hire is a quick study. Sometimes you don't because the new hire already thinks they know it all are refuses any expert advice.

There must be a happy middle ground somewhere between a career politician who time has passed and a total newbie who has no idea what they are doing and refuses any assistance.
Poor Trump ??? He's proving that a lifetime of experience in politics isn't any better than coming in cold. I 100% support term limits, lifetime politicians are a drain on taxpayers and useless to society.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 18, 2019, 06:44:54 PM
Poor Trump, he should have studied more before making the leap. Poor U.S. citizens, they have a President in training. Like with anything, you hire someone with no experience and you get someone who has no idea how to do the job they were hired to do. Sometimes you get lucky because the new hire is a quick study. Sometimes you don't because the new hire already thinks they know it all are refuses any expert advice.

There must be a happy middle ground somewhere between a career politician who time has passed and a total newbie who has no idea what they are doing and refuses any assistance.



Yet, he's figured it out in a couple years and is fending off the media, entire dem party and half the GOP...spineless RINOS.....yep, terrible things going on as he fulfills every campaign promise.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on September 18, 2019, 07:36:18 PM
Although I must admit it will be entertaining to watch Howard defend this poor old man who is clearly losing his mind over the coming months. 

Howard still hasn’t figured out that Donald Trump is President BECAUSE of Hillary and Barry Sotero’s incompetence.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on September 18, 2019, 08:09:20 PM
Poor Trump ??? He's proving that a lifetime of experience in politics isn't any better than coming in cold. I 100% support term limits, lifetime politicians are a drain on taxpayers and useless to society.

Except we 1000% need term limits for CONGRESS....
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on September 19, 2019, 04:33:59 PM
Poor Trump ??? He's proving that a lifetime of experience in politics isn't any better than coming in cold. I 100% support term limits, lifetime politicians are a drain on taxpayers and useless to society.

I also support term limits. We want politicians when they are at their peak best, just like employees in business. Generally speaking very long term employees become less productive and more complacent in their jobs. Politicians are no different. Although you may not be getting as much bang for you buck, I fail to see how lifetime politicians are anymore of a drain on taxpayers than newbies.

Article I, Section 6 states, “The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States.” Three points are worth highlighting here.

First, the clause requires that pay be “ascertained by Law.” This means Congress must set its own pay. It also means that either the House or Senate could not change its salary via a simple resolution, which does not go to either the other chamber or the President for approval. Nor could the two chambers together adopt a concurrent resolution, which does not go to the President for a signature. A change in salary must be done via a bill or joint resolution, both of which are presented to the President for a signature. Thus, the President could veto a bill changing Members’ salaries if he thought it inappropriate. Congress’ ability to raise (or lower) its own salary is circumscribed by the checks and balances of the normal legislative process.

Second, the Framers used the word “shall.” This means pay for Members is obligatory, so the country could not have a “pro bono Congress.” In theory, a mere pittance for Members of Congress could satisfy this clause, but many of the Framers would disapprove of a paltry salary. Delegates to the Convention wanted to secure the services of the country’s most capable citizens. Some feared that the failure to compensate Members sufficiently would attract to office only the wealthiest and those “who were most willing to serve,” as James Madison recorded one delegate pointing out (Madison’s Notes, page 108).

The third noteworthy aspect of this clause is that the U.S. Treasury is to be the source of the funds for Member salaries. Passing over this clause without thinking much about it is easy to do, but it was actually one of the most controversial topics relating to congressional compensation at the Convention. It was seen as a way to ensure the strength of Congress. An earlier version of the clause left it to the states to pay their Members of Congress, but some delegates feared that this would make the Federal government too dependent on state governments. For instance, Edmund Randolph of Virginia argued that this would be the case. Additionally, as Nathaniel Gorham of Massachusetts pointed out, the states could cut salaries so low that the most capable Members would seek employment elsewhere (Madison’s Notes, page 171).
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 20, 2019, 05:22:10 AM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/new-york-city-mayor-bill-de-blasio-drops-2020-bid-n1056791?fbclid=IwAR07BrmlA1uGR4M5UyuAeIygAQAnU-EbN0ehvK-V8v2XpW7WIt7_BMbETEs


DeBlasio
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on September 20, 2019, 06:54:31 AM
Beto has to be next to drop.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on September 20, 2019, 07:23:09 AM
Good call GA. His funding is drying up.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/15/beto-orourke-fundraising-second-quarter-1416486

Ah - didn't know that part.

He's also been polling at 0% for a long time.  Or close to it.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on September 20, 2019, 07:43:07 AM
Mayor “Howard” DeBlasio polling at 0.000001% has decided to end his bid to ruin the country and will return to ruining NYC
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on September 20, 2019, 10:26:17 AM
"National Mandatory Service to Combat Climate Change"

Say that with a straight face.

And we on here who lean right in this current political climate are considered the crazy ones?

Marianne Williamson wants a national mandatory service for people ages 18-26 to combat climate change

At a presidential climate change forum on Thursday, author and Democratic presidential hopeful Marianne Williamson floated the idea of a national mandatory year of service for young adults to tackle climate change.


"I would like to ask your opinion, I think during the 'season of repair,' we should have a mandatory national service, one year, for people between 18 and 26 because we need you," Williamson said. "We need to fix this climate. We need to fix this country."

MSNBC's Ali Velshi asked the audience, which consisted mainly of students, to raise their hands if they liked the idea. "A few, alright."

Williamson smirked at the crowd's reaction.

"To save the country. It's not just the climate," she said.

The climate forum was hosted by MSNBC and Georgetown University's Institute of Politics and Public Service, giving college students the opportunity to ask candidates questions. This is not the first time Williamson has mentioned of national service for young people. Her campaign website includes an outline of a program that would "be a way that every American citizen spends one year of their youth in service to the repair of our nation."


She lists service projects including helping in small businesses, schools, hospitals, the military, the Peace Corps and work on sustainability and to "combat the climate crisis."

The paid service she details on her website, however, appears to be voluntary: Williamson's administration would start a program where young adults "can perform one year of National Service."

She said at the climate forum that Americans need to come together in a "World War II mass mobilization."

She later added, "During World War II, it wasn't Democrats vs. Republicans, left vs. right. We are all Americans. And we are going to mobilize."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2376414001
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on September 20, 2019, 11:40:04 AM
Global Warming

"Climate Change"


WTF?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on September 20, 2019, 07:20:37 PM
Ah - didn't know that part.

He's also been polling at 0% for a long time.  Or close to it.
He said Texans wanted to give up their guns..... :D :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on September 20, 2019, 07:35:54 PM
"Democratic presidential hopeful Elizabeth Warren identifies as a capitalist, which makes sense, given her estimated $12 million fortune.

She and her husband, Bruce Mann, both longtime law professors, hold much of their wealth in retirement accounts. Their TIAA and CREF accounts—available to educators and nonprofit employees—are worth at least $4 million. They also own two homes: a $3 million Victorian in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and an $800,000 condo in Washington, D.C."





WTF?????



How does someone working as a teacher and US Senator amass a fortune that some estimate is over 12 million dollars.

If I knew education and being a politician paid so well I would have run for office decades ago.



WTF??


25 Democrat candidates and they end up with the same old 4.

Social Bernie, Pocahontas, Biden and the other one.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on September 20, 2019, 08:46:52 PM
"Democratic presidential hopeful Elizabeth Warren identifies as a capitalist, which makes sense, given her estimated $12 million fortune.

She and her husband, Bruce Mann, both longtime law professors, hold much of their wealth in retirement accounts. Their TIAA and CREF accounts—available to educators and nonprofit employees—are worth at least $4 million. They also own 5 FIVE homes: a $3 million Victorian in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and an $800,000 condo in Washington, D.C."
A LARGE WIGWAM & 2 TEEPEES ON VARIOUS RESERVATIONS  


FIXED IT



WTF?????



How does someone working as a teacher and US Senator amass a fortune that some estimate is over 12 million dollars.

If I knew education and being a politician paid so well I would have run for office decades ago.



WTF??


25 Democrat candidates and they end up with the same old 4.

Social Bernie, Pocahontas, Biden and the other one.

Fixed It
Just added the Properties They Forgot to Mention.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on September 21, 2019, 11:50:39 AM

Fixed It
Just added the Properties They Forgot to Mention.

 ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 21, 2019, 01:40:15 PM
"National Mandatory Service to Combat Climate Change"

Say that with a straight face.

And we on here who lean right in this current political climate are considered the crazy ones?

Marianne Williamson wants a national mandatory service for people ages 18-26 to combat climate change

At a presidential climate change forum on Thursday, author and Democratic presidential hopeful Marianne Williamson floated the idea of a national mandatory year of service for young adults to tackle climate change.


"I would like to ask your opinion, I think during the 'season of repair,' we should have a mandatory national service, one year, for people between 18 and 26 because we need you," Williamson said. "We need to fix this climate. We need to fix this country."

MSNBC's Ali Velshi asked the audience, which consisted mainly of students, to raise their hands if they liked the idea. "A few, alright."

Williamson smirked at the crowd's reaction.

"To save the country. It's not just the climate," she said.

The climate forum was hosted by MSNBC and Georgetown University's Institute of Politics and Public Service, giving college students the opportunity to ask candidates questions. This is not the first time Williamson has mentioned of national service for young people. Her campaign website includes an outline of a program that would "be a way that every American citizen spends one year of their youth in service to the repair of our nation."


She lists service projects including helping in small businesses, schools, hospitals, the military, the Peace Corps and work on sustainability and to "combat the climate crisis."

The paid service she details on her website, however, appears to be voluntary: Williamson's administration would start a program where young adults "can perform one year of National Service."

She said at the climate forum that Americans need to come together in a "World War II mass mobilization."

She later added, "During World War II, it wasn't Democrats vs. Republicans, left vs. right. We are all Americans. And we are going to mobilize."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2376414001



I'm all for this.  ;D First let's try and take their phones and social media away for a day or two before you get them to give 8 YEARS of their lives away. Hahahahahahahahaha.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on September 22, 2019, 06:55:55 AM
Lining up with what I said could possibly end up happening a few weeks ago: Warren takes Iowa, Bernie takes New Hampshire, and Biden takes South Carolina. Then the real dog fight begins.

 Elizabeth Warren Leads Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders for First Time in New Iowa Poll

(https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1687,w_3000,x_0,y_150/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_655/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1569114393/GettyImages-1176217901_kauxmp)


Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) took the lead in a new Des Moines Register Iowa poll on Saturday night, marking the first time the Massachusetts senator led both former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) in the first caucus state in the poll.

According to the new survey, Warren leads at 22 percent, with Biden following at 20 and Sanders at 11 percent. No other candidate reached double digits but South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg followed at 9 percent, with Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) at 6 percent to round out the top five. Additionally, the poll found that Warren was drawing the support of 32 percent of those who say that they caucused for Sanders in 2016 and that she narrowly led him among voters under age 35.


“It’s the first time we’ve had someone other than Joe Biden at the top of the leader board,”  J. Ann Selzer, president of Selzer & Co. which conducted the poll, said.

The poll comes as Sanders’ campaign has shaken up its staff in two early voting states.

The Independent from Vermont remains at or near the top of most primary polls and no other candidate has matched his fundraising and grassroots organization capacity. But even with his staying power, he has been increasingly eclipsed in the eyes of opponents by Warren as the main progressive force in the race.

Stuck in this position, Sanders’ campaign has shuffled staff in two early crucial primary states, where his operation replaced their New Hampshire state director and Iowa political director and a deputy Iowa field director. Some sympathetic to Sanders have noted that changing around staff at this juncture obviously demonstrates a sign of dissatisfaction with the senator’s status in the race. He continues to build and demonstrate a massive legion of support, hitting one million donors this week—a milestone no other candidate has reached yet.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elizabeth-warren-leads-joe-biden-and-bernie-sanders-for-first-time-in-new-iowa-poll
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on September 22, 2019, 08:13:36 AM
Bernie is just there to keep the attention of the socialist crowd until the final ticket of Warren/Biden is announced. If Bernie falls off now, the hand out crowd starts looking around early and possibly move towards common sense Trump. Kind of funny though that the two richest, whitest democrats would be nominated to represent the poorest people. ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on September 22, 2019, 08:18:15 AM


I'm all for this.  ;D First let's try and take their phones and social media away for a day or two before you get them to give 8 YEARS of their lives away. Hahahahahahahahaha.

It’s one year of service, between the ages of 18 - 26
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on September 22, 2019, 09:30:44 PM
Bernie is just there to keep the attention of the socialist crowd until the final ticket of Warren/Biden is announced. If Bernie falls off now, the hand out crowd starts looking around early and possibly move towards common sense Trump. Kind of funny though that the two richest, whitest democrats would be nominated to represent the poorest people. ;D

It will be Warren / Castro or something....doubtful Biden goes for another VP run.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on September 22, 2019, 10:55:36 PM
It will be Warren / Castro or something....doubtful Biden goes for another VP run.

Gosh, I hadn't considered things beyond Warren getting the nomination. 

Castro as VP makes the most sense to me.  The first minority VP fits the Democrat's agenda perfectly. 
The meat-hating single guy is not relatable to the average American.

Democrats spent more than two years keeping Miguel Estrada on the sidelines, lest Bush nominate him to the
Federal court, and then possibly to the SCOTUS.  Recall that Obama's first nominee to the SCOTUS was Hispanic.

Good prediction.

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/80579a765cb13736ffdcb53398d0de81/tumblr_inline_p94na2NAeg1qce4fj_540.gif)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on September 22, 2019, 11:00:59 PM
CBS has Hickenlooper dropping out twice.  ::)

https://www.cbsnews.com/media/2020-presidential-candidates-who-is-running-for-president-here-are-the-democratic-candidates/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 23, 2019, 02:02:26 PM
Watched some CNN to get the party line. Seems like they’re still behind Biden but are hedging their bet with Warren in case the Ukraine deal blows up. They’re also trying to make the Ukraine scandal about Trump and not Biden.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 23, 2019, 03:17:13 PM
Watched some CNN to get the party line. Seems like they’re still behind Biden but are hedging their bet with Warren in case the Ukraine deal blows up. They’re also trying to make the Ukraine scandal about Trump and not Biden.



Rudy just dropped the kind of bomb on the Bidens that you just don't drop without HARD proof.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 23, 2019, 03:20:28 PM
It’s one year of service, between the ages of 18 - 26



Still for it. For anything that instills some responsibility in place of entitlement - but of course now that I think further....this is the way to a people's army that Mao would be proud of...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on September 24, 2019, 05:17:04 AM
Gosh, I hadn't considered things beyond Warren getting the nomination. 

Castro as VP makes the most sense to me.  The first minority VP fits the Democrat's agenda perfectly. 
The meat-hating single guy is not relatable to the average American.

Democrats spent more than two years keeping Miguel Estrada on the sidelines, lest Bush nominate him to the
Federal court, and then possibly to the SCOTUS.  Recall that Obama's first nominee to the SCOTUS was Hispanic.

Good prediction.

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/80579a765cb13736ffdcb53398d0de81/tumblr_inline_p94na2NAeg1qce4fj_540.gif)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on September 24, 2019, 05:58:49 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=624017.0;attach=779143;image)

Yamcha, where have you been?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on September 26, 2019, 02:01:16 AM
Yamcha, where have you been?

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 30, 2019, 11:35:28 AM
Biden....there has never been a leader at this primary stage more out of step with where his/her party is at present.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on September 30, 2019, 05:23:57 PM
Joe Biden's 2020 campaign is asking TV networks to not book Rudy Giuliani


WASHINGTON – Former Vice President Joe Biden's presidential campaign urged top TV network executives Sunday to stop booking Rudy Giuliani on their shows, accusing President Donald Trump's personal attorney of introducing "increasingly unhinged, unfounded and desperate lies into the national conversation."

In an email sent Sunday obtained by USA TODAY, Biden senior adviser Anita Dunn and deputy campaign manager Kate Bedingfield wrote that live fact-checking during Giuliani's appearances is "no longer enough."

"We are writing today with grave concern that you continue to book Rudy Giuliani on your air to spread false, debunked conspiracy theories on behalf of Donald Trump," the two wrote. "By giving him your air time, you are allowing him to introduce increasingly unhinged, unfounded and desperate lies into the national conversation."

"We write to demand that in service to the facts, you no longer book Rudy Giuliani, a surrogate for Donald Trump who has demonstrated that he will knowingly and willingly lie in order to advance his own narrative," the email continued.

The networks that received the letter included NBC News, CBS News, Fox News and CNN, according to The Daily Beast, which first reported the letter.

Giuliani Sunday morning made the rounds on several Sunday morning shows, including Fox News' Sunday Morning Futures, ABC’s This Week and CBS’s Face the Nation. During several of his appearances, Giuliani repeatedly pushed that Biden should be investigated in the ousting of Viktor Shokin, the former General Prosecutor of Ukraine.

Last week, a whistleblower's complaint was made public that express concern that Trump "used the power of his office" to solicit foreign help to discredit Biden during a call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky in July. Giuliani is a central figure in the scandal, which has led to the opening of an impeachment inquiry into Trump.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3817708002
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on September 30, 2019, 05:49:45 PM
Biden
Sanders
Warren
Harris

Are all running on handout platforms that have a cost to taxpayers of over $10 TRILLION dollars.

When I drop my vote for President Donald Trump in the ballot box I’m going to say “fuck you little Bobby DeNiro.”
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on September 30, 2019, 06:47:39 PM
Biden
Sanders
Warren
Harris

Are all running on handout platforms that have a cost to taxpayers of over $10 TRILLION dollars.

When I drop my vote for President Donald Trump in the ballot box I’m going to say “fuck you little Bobby DeNiro.”

Do you think he will hear you? If so, do you believe he cares what you say?

Speaking of costs to taxpayers, is the enormous increase in our national debt under Trump over the last three years not a concern? Maybe, like Trump has done a few times over, the U.S. can file bankruptcy then borrow money from a foreign bank because they are the only place offering a bail out. 

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 30, 2019, 07:04:05 PM

Do you think he will hear you? If so, do you believe he cares what you say?

Speaking of costs to taxpayers, is the enormous increase in our national debt under Trump over the last three years not a concern? Maybe, like Trump has done a few times over, the U.S. can file bankruptcy then borrow money from a foreign bank because they are the only place offering a bail out. 




Another liberal that suddenly became fiscally responsible.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on September 30, 2019, 07:08:32 PM

Do you think he will hear you? If so, do you believe he cares what you say?

Speaking of costs to taxpayers, is the enormous increase in our national debt under Trump over the last three years not a concern? Maybe, like Trump has done a few times over, the U.S. can file bankruptcy then borrow money from a foreign bank because they are the only place offering a bail out. 

Fuck off you senile old disgusting queer.

You rode up and down on the cocks of strangers while your wife was at home dying.

Don’t respond to my posts you sickening deviant, your filth and stupidity might be contagious
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on September 30, 2019, 07:46:11 PM
Fuck off you senile old disgusting queer.

You rode up and down on the cocks of strangers while your wife was at home dying.

Don’t respond to my posts you sickening deviant, your filth and stupidity might be contagious

Your responses to my posts are beyond pathetic.

Just so you know, the only reason I bother with your ridiculous comments is because I know it riles you up. And you keep taking the bait. Not to worry though, I'll soon tire of your one note samba.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on September 30, 2019, 07:54:34 PM
Your responses to my posts are beyond pathetic.

Just so you know, the only reason I bother with your ridiculous comments is because I know it riles you up. And you keep taking the bait. Not to worry though, I'll soon tire of your one note samba.

Fuck off

Die
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on September 30, 2019, 08:03:08 PM
Fuck off

Die

See? You just proved me right.  ;)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on October 01, 2019, 04:35:32 AM
The party of Tolerance. A real warrior for The First Amendment.

Kamala Harris says Trump's Twitter account should be suspended

Washington(CNN)Sen. Kamala Harris said on Monday that President Donald Trump's Twitter account should be suspended following his tweets about the whistleblower whose complaint is at the center of the Ukraine scandal.

"The President's tweets and his behaviors about this are just further evidence of the fact that he uses his power in a way that is designed to beat people down instead of lift people up," the California Democrat and 2020 presidential candidate told CNN's Anderson Cooper on "Anderson Cooper 360."

"Frankly, when you look at what he's been tweeting today directed at the whistleblower, directed at so many people, you know, I, frankly, think that based on this and all we've seen him do before, including attacking members of Congress, that he, frankly, should be -- his Twitter account should be suspended. I think there is plenty of now evidence to suggest that he is irresponsible with his words in a way that could result in harm to other people. And so the privilege of using those words in that way should probably be taken from him."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/30/politics/kamala-harris-trump-twitter-cnntv/index.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on October 01, 2019, 09:53:17 AM
The party of Tolerance. A real warrior for The First Amendment.

Kamala Harris says Trump's Twitter account should be suspended

Washington(CNN)Sen. Kamala Harris said on Monday that President Donald Trump's Twitter account should be suspended following his tweets about the whistleblower whose complaint is at the center of the Ukraine scandal.

"The President's tweets and his behaviors about this are just further evidence of the fact that he uses his power in a way that is designed to beat people down instead of lift people up," the California Democrat and 2020 presidential candidate told CNN's Anderson Cooper on "Anderson Cooper 360."

"Frankly, when you look at what he's been tweeting today directed at the whistleblower, directed at so many people, you know, I, frankly, think that based on this and all we've seen him do before, including attacking members of Congress, that he, frankly, should be -- his Twitter account should be suspended. I think there is plenty of now evidence to suggest that he is irresponsible with his words in a way that could result in harm to other people. And so the privilege of using those words in that way should probably be taken from him."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/30/politics/kamala-harris-trump-twitter-cnntv/index.html

Not surprising she wants to limit speech, she's (among other things) a former prosecutor and a police state goon.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 01, 2019, 10:09:37 AM
This woman clearly sucked and fucked to get where she’s at. She’s incompetent on every level.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 01, 2019, 10:46:24 AM
This woman clearly sucked and fucked to get where she’s at. She’s incompetent on every level.

She’s not THAT incompetent if you only compare her to Democrat Party idiots.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 01, 2019, 11:56:54 AM
This woman clearly sucked and fucked to get where she’s at. She’s incompetent on every level.

I agree.  Really unfortunate that Democrats keep elevating people who simply aren't that bright. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on October 02, 2019, 10:45:54 AM
Harris was at 5% yesterday.

Gabbard at 3%, despite being left off last debate.

Harris / Booker / Beto pretty much done here.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 02, 2019, 11:43:54 AM
I agree.  Really unfortunate that Democrats keep elevating people who simply aren't that bright. 

What gives it away is her complete lack of core values. Her position on every issue is which ever way the wind is blowing and she flip flops at the drop of a hat.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on October 02, 2019, 12:27:06 PM
Quote from: Thin Lizzy on October 01, 2019, 10:09:37 AM
This woman clearly sucked and fucked to get where she’s at. She’s incompetent on every level.[/quote]

I agree.  Really unfortunate that Democrats keep elevating people who simply aren't that bright. 

Which part do you agree with....her supposed sexual exploits or the opinion on her incompetence...or both?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 02, 2019, 12:33:28 PM
Quote from: Thin Lizzy on October 01, 2019, 10:09:37 AM
This woman clearly sucked and fucked to get where she’s at. She’s incompetent on every level.

Which part do you agree with....her supposed sexual exploits or the opinion on her incompetence...or both?


She is competent at getting men to help her get ahead by sleeping with them. She is incompetent at everything else.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 02, 2019, 12:34:07 PM
Quote from: Thin Lizzy on October 01, 2019, 10:09:37 AM
This woman clearly sucked and fucked to get where she’s at. She’s incompetent on every level.

Which part do you agree with....her supposed sexual exploits or the opinion on her incompetence...or both?


She is competent at getting men to help her get ahead by sleeping with them. She is incompetent at everything else.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on October 02, 2019, 01:24:20 PM

She is competent at getting men to help her get ahead by sleeping with them. She is incompetent at everything else.

Do you have proof of this or is it just your opinion?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on October 02, 2019, 01:31:01 PM
Do you have proof of this or is it just your opinion?

Do you have to argue everything
Is Black Black or White White
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on October 02, 2019, 01:34:41 PM
Do you have to argue everything
Is Black Black or White White

Since when is a simple question an argument?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on October 02, 2019, 01:40:11 PM
Since when is a simple question an argument?

Ok carry on
With your FuckWittery as You Clearly Think it’s Clever.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on October 02, 2019, 01:40:58 PM
Ok carry on
With your FuckWittery as You Clearly Think it’s Clever.

You are kind of pissy today.....just saying.  :)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on October 02, 2019, 01:46:17 PM
You are kind of pissy today.....just saying.  :)

Am I  ::)

Then what’s your Excuse for being that way Everday.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on October 02, 2019, 01:50:02 PM
Am I  ::)

Then what’s your Excuse for being that way Everday.

I don't make excuses for my mood. If you think I am pissy everyday, that's your perrogative. Both you and I are entitled to our opinions.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on October 02, 2019, 02:11:13 PM
I don't make excuses for my mood. If you think I am pissy everyday, that's your perrogative. Both you and I are entitled to our opinions.

Very True we are entitled to our opinions
Only Mine are Always the Correct Ones.
HTH

🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 02, 2019, 02:42:36 PM
Quote from: Thin Lizzy on October 01, 2019, 10:09:37 AM
This woman clearly sucked and fucked to get where she’s at. She’s incompetent on every level.

Which part do you agree with....her supposed sexual exploits or the opinion on her incompetence...or both?

Both.  Her "supposed sexual exploits" are a fact.  Her incompetence and not being too bright are just my opinions. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on October 04, 2019, 03:21:55 PM
"Please clap"..

Kamala Harris asks audience if America is 'ready' for her presidency, crowd shouts 'No'

Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., may have had what some are calling her "please clap" moment on Thursday when she got a not so favorable response to the question if America was "ready" for her to be president.

Speaking at a town hall event in Reno, Nev., Harris told attendees she wanted to "engage in real talk" about the state of the 2020 race.

"In this election, in the last couple- I mean, maybe couple of months, certainly a few weeks, there's this whole conversation that has been coming up about electability focused on our campaign," Harris said. "Is America ready for that?"

Several audience members were then heard responding "No" throughout the room, with Harris visibly shocked by what she heard.

"Well, yes they are," Harris told the crowd, sparking some laughter.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/kamala-harris-asks-audience-if-america-is-ready-for-her-presidency-crowd-shouts-no
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 04, 2019, 05:28:06 PM
If Bernie Sanders has a heart attack and dies during the next TV debate I will laugh my ass off.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 04, 2019, 05:35:33 PM
Warren raises $24.6 million in third quarter
BY MAX GREENWOOD - 10/04/19

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) raised $24.6 million for her presidential campaign in the last three months, her campaign said on Friday, a total that far exceeds that of former Vice President Joe Biden and nearly ties the sum raised by her chief ideological rival Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

Warren’s third-quarter fundraising haul was driven by 943,000 contributions, her campaign said, a sign of strong grassroots support as she heads into the critical three-month campaign season ahead.

The $24.6 million total is also notably higher than the roughly $19.2 million she raised in the second quarter of the year.

The financial haul is the second-highest reported by a Democratic presidential candidate this quarter. Sanders’s campaign announced on Tuesday that he had raised $25.3 million in the third fundraising quarter, the most reported by any Democratic candidate this year.

But Warren’s total exceeded that of the third-place fundraiser, South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg, who is expected to report a $19.1 million quarterly haul to the Federal Election Commission.

It is also nearly $10 million higher than the sum disclosed by Biden, who announced on Thursday that he had raised $15.2 million.

The surge in fundraising for Warren coincides with a recent ascent in several national and early state polls, some of which show her surpassing Biden as the Democratic primary field’s ostensible front-runner.

That money is likely more than enough to fuel Warren’s campaign operations in the few months leading up to the Iowa caucus, the first round of voting in the Democratic nominating contest. Warren already has among the largest field operations of any candidate in the primary field, notably investing millions of dollars early on in her campaign to hire hundreds of staffers.

In an email to supporters on Friday, Warren’s campaign manager Roger Lau said that the campaign will start building out its operations in states beyond the four early primary and caucus states, including those that hold their nominating contests in March.

In particular, Lau said, Warren’s team will focus its efforts in states with key down-ballot races in 2020.

“That way, your support won’t just help elect Elizabeth — you’ll help elect Democrats up and down the ballot so we can make big, structural change, and so we can stop Republicans from being able to draw gerrymandered maps for 2022 and beyond,” he wrote.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/464384-warren-raises-246-million-in-third-quarter
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 04, 2019, 07:59:50 PM
Biden donors jumping ship. Maybe his son can pitch in?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/4/20898742/warren-sanders-biden-third-quarter-fundraising
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on October 05, 2019, 03:21:36 AM
Biden donors jumping ship. Maybe his son can pitch in?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/4/20898742/warren-sanders-biden-third-quarter-fundraising

 ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 08, 2019, 10:22:03 AM
Warren faces mounting questions on another part of her personal story: Was she fired for being pregnant?
By Adam Shaw | Fox News

Newly surfaced video appears to contradict Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren's claim that she was fired from teaching job after becoming 'visibly pregnant'; reaction and analysis from Fox News contributor Katie Pavlich.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., who in recent weeks has been surging in the polls in the Democratic presidential primary race, sought Tuesday to clarify another part of her personal story that's been called into question — namely, her claim that she was fired in the 1970s for being pregnant.

Warren has long told the story of how in 1971 she was fired in the first year of her teaching job because she was “visibly pregnant.” It has been presented as a key moment in her story, propelling her toward Harvard and eventually politics.

VIDEO APPEARS TO CONTRADICT WARREN'S SUGGESTION THAT SCHOOL FIRED HER OVER PREGNANCY

But that story was cast into doubt after a 2007 interview reemerged in which she said she left the job after realizing that the education courses that she needed to take weren’t working out for her.

"I went back to graduate school and took a couple of courses in education and said, 'I don't think this is going to work out for me.' I was pregnant with my first baby, so I had a baby and stayed home for a couple of years and I was really casting about, thinking, 'What am I going to do?'" she said.

Most recently, The Washington Free Beacon located county records from the local school board, showing that the board in April 1971 voted to extend Warren a second-year contract similar to the one she held the previous year.

A few months later in June, the minutes show that her resignation was “accepted with regret.”

Warren told CBS News on Monday that her life since becoming a senator has caused her to “open up” about different parts of her life as she stood by her account. And on Tuesday, she reiterated her claims that she was pushed out, indicating that while the contract was extended in April when her pregnancy was not visible, that changed a few months later.

Video appears to contradict Warren's claim that school fired her over pregnancy

“When I was 22 and finishing my first year of teaching, I had an experience millions of women will recognize. By June I was visibly pregnant — and the principal told me the job I'd already been promised for the next year would go to someone else,” she tweeted.

“This was 1971, years before Congress outlawed pregnancy discrimination — but we know it still happens in subtle and not-so-subtle ways. We can fight back by telling our stories. I tell mine on the campaign trail, and I hope to hear yours.”

Elizabeth Warren

@ewarren
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When I was 22 and finishing my first year of teaching, I had an experience millions of women will recognize. By June I was visibly pregnant—and the principal told me the job I'd already been promised for the next year would go to someone else.

Elizabeth Warren

@ewarren
This was 1971, years before Congress outlawed pregnancy discrimination—but we know it still happens in subtle and not-so-subtle ways. We can fight back by telling our stories. I tell mine on the campaign trail, and I hope to hear yours.

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Speaking to CBS, she also stood by her claim of being “shown the door” by the principal.

"When someone calls you in and says the job that you've been hired for for the next year is no longer yours, 'we're giving it to someone else,' I think that's being shown the door," she said.

This isn’t the first controversy surrounding Warren’s backstory. The beginning of her campaign was dogged by questions about her claim to have Native American heritage.

In February she apologized to Cherokee Nation for taking a DNA test to prove her ancestry — a test that an analysis found suggested she was between 1/64th and 1/1,024th Native American.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/warren-faces-mounting-questions-on-another-part-of-her-personal-story-was-she-fired-for-being-pregnant
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on October 08, 2019, 06:10:19 PM
We can't have someone like Warren as President who is an incompetent liar. 

National security is at stake!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 08, 2019, 06:45:22 PM
Does anyone else think Trump will crush Warren?  She is a horrible candidate.  But looks like she might be in the driver's seat at this point. 

Warren Pulls Ahead Of Biden In Polling Average
PHILLIP NIETO
CONTRIBUTOR
October 08, 2019

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren is pulling ahead of former Vice President Joe Biden, according to a polling average from RealClearPolitics.

This is the first time Biden has lost his lead since the beginning of the race.

RCP’s polling average on Tuesday has her besting the former Democratic front runner with 26.6% support for the presidential nomination, while Biden slips behind her at 26.4%. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders follows up with 14.6%. (RELATED: Liz Warren Is Already Negatively Impacting The Stock Market, Analysts Say)

Christopher D. White

@ZanderKelly30
 Liz Warren is now the front-runner, overtaking Biden https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1181660038643032066 …

Sahil Kapur

@sahilkapur
ALERT — Elizabeth Warren has overtaken Joe Biden for front-runner status in the RealClearPolitics national average of 2020 Democratic polls.

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Three of the last four polls used by RealClearPolitics show Warren beating Biden. An IBD/TIPP poll shows her at 27% compared to Biden at 26%. Quinnipiac has Warren at 29% vs Biden’s 26%. An Economist/YouGov survey taken last week has the Massachusetts senator at 26% with the former vice president getting 22%.

Warren’s campaign out raised Biden for the third quarter of the year. Biden only raised $15.2 million while Warren brought in $24.6 million. The senator also has an additional $25.6 million on hand, according to Politico.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/08/warren-pulls-biden-polling-average/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 08, 2019, 06:58:22 PM
Well, certainly Warren can't accuse Trump of either lying or covering something up in a debate and get away with it.

Her entire career and even why she is where she is based on lies that other white dems let her get away with.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 09, 2019, 04:03:16 PM
This might be the worst lineup I've ever seen.  Even worse than the one that legitimized Al Sharpton.

MSNBC, Washington Post to co-host November Democratic presidential debate
Oct. 8, 2019
By Dareh Gregorian

MSNBC and The Washington Post will co-host the fifth Democratic presidential primary debate in Georgia next month, MSNBC announced Tuesday.

The debate will take place in prime time on Nov. 20, and will air live on MSNBC and Radio One. It will also stream on MSNBC.com and the Post's website, as well as across mobile devices via NBC News and the Post's mobile apps and Urban One's digital platforms.

The specific location, venue, format and moderators will be announced at a later date.

To qualify for the stage, candidates have to meet fundraising and polling criteria laid out by the Democratic National Committee one week before the debate.

The polling requirement is slightly different than the previous debates — it calls for candidates to hit at least 3 percent in four qualifying state or national polls or 5 percent in two qualifying state polls. The fundraising threshold requires candidates to have received contributions from 165,000 unique donors, including 600 unique donors in 20 states.

An unofficial survey by NBC News shows eight candidates appear to have qualified already — former Vice President Joe Biden, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, California Sen. Kamala Harris, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, billionaire Tom Steyer, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.

Former Housing Secretary Julián Castro, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar and former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke all appear to have reached the donor requirement, but have not met the polling requirements.

All 11, plus Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, have qualified for the fourth debate, which is scheduled for Oct. 15 at Otterbein University in Westerville, Ohio. It's being hosted by CNN and The New York Times, and had lower polling fundraising criteria. Candidates had to register at least 2 percent in four qualifying polls and receive donations from at least 130,000 online donors.

MSNBC, NBC News and Telemundo hosted the first of the Democratic primary debates back in June. Twenty candidates qualified for that debate, which was split into two back-to-back nights with 10 candidates each night.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/msnbc-washington-post-co-host-november-democratic-presidential-debate-n1063936?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on October 09, 2019, 04:20:53 PM
We can't have someone like Warren as President who is an incompetent liar. 

National security is at stake!

Not another liar president! Trump has used up our tolarance for lying.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on October 09, 2019, 04:22:46 PM
Does anyone else think Trump will crush Warren?  She is a horrible candidate.  But looks like she might be in the driver's seat at this point. 

Warren Pulls Ahead Of Biden In Polling Average
PHILLIP NIETO
CONTRIBUTOR
October 08, 2019

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren is pulling ahead of former Vice President Joe Biden, according to a polling average from RealClearPolitics.

This is the first time Biden has lost his lead since the beginning of the race.

RCP’s polling average on Tuesday has her besting the former Democratic front runner with 26.6% support for the presidential nomination, while Biden slips behind her at 26.4%. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders follows up with 14.6%. (RELATED: Liz Warren Is Already Negatively Impacting The Stock Market, Analysts Say)

Christopher D. White

@ZanderKelly30
 Liz Warren is now the front-runner, overtaking Biden https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1181660038643032066 …

Sahil Kapur

@sahilkapur
ALERT — Elizabeth Warren has overtaken Joe Biden for front-runner status in the RealClearPolitics national average of 2020 Democratic polls.

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Three of the last four polls used by RealClearPolitics show Warren beating Biden. An IBD/TIPP poll shows her at 27% compared to Biden at 26%. Quinnipiac has Warren at 29% vs Biden’s 26%. An Economist/YouGov survey taken last week has the Massachusetts senator at 26% with the former vice president getting 22%.

Warren’s campaign out raised Biden for the third quarter of the year. Biden only raised $15.2 million while Warren brought in $24.6 million. The senator also has an additional $25.6 million on hand, according to Politico.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/08/warren-pulls-biden-polling-average/

It is far to early to predict the outcome of the 2020 Presidental election. Anyway, we all have seen how well predictions turn out in these matters.  ;)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 09, 2019, 05:33:01 PM
It is far to early to predict the outcome of the 2020 Presidental election. Anyway, we all have seen how well predictions turn out in these matters.  ;)

Yes it's too early to predict any outcome with certainty.  It's not too early to talk about what a horrible candidate and liar Pocahontas is though. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 09, 2019, 07:43:26 PM
Biden, the gift that keeps on giving. I'm sure he paid taxes on this 900k income from Ukraine.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/joe-biden-personally-paid-900000-burisma-according-ukrainian-mp-bombshell-admission



Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 12, 2019, 11:45:10 AM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-12/warren-pays-facebook-to-spread-lie-that-zuckerberg-backs-trump


Warren wants to break up big tech and/or tax the hell out of them. Even Zuck has taken notice.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 12, 2019, 11:58:16 AM
Kamala Harris has never gotten a job or promotion where she didn’t have to ride an old black man’s cock to get it.

Same as Strawboy.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 12, 2019, 04:16:14 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-12/warren-pays-facebook-to-spread-lie-that-zuckerberg-backs-trump


Warren wants to break up big tech and/or tax the hell out of them. Even Zuck has taken notice.

I’ve said it before, big tech doesn’t realize how far to the left the left really is. Same deal here in New York where AOC ran Bezos out of town. Leftists see successful wealthy businessmen as people whose property should be confiscated.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 12, 2019, 10:44:42 PM
Anyone but Trump and Kanye West 2020
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2019, 04:29:58 PM
Desperate times.  If you are an intellectually honest Democrat, you have to be concerned about the current frontrunners. 

Mike Bloomberg keeps talking to allies about running for president as Joe Biden struggles against Elizabeth Warren
Brian Schwartz
@SCHWARTZBCNBC
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/14/bloomberg-signals-he-would-run-for-president-if-biden-struggles-against-warren.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on October 14, 2019, 05:58:48 PM
Anyone but Trump and Kanye West 2020
Racist comment reported.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on October 14, 2019, 07:58:05 PM
Desperate times.  If you are an intellectually honest Democrat, you have to be concerned about the current frontrunners. 

Mike Bloomberg keeps talking to allies about running for president as Joe Biden struggles against Elizabeth Warren
Brian Schwartz
@SCHWARTZBCNBC
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/14/bloomberg-signals-he-would-run-for-president-if-biden-struggles-against-warren.html

Maybe we will hear some more Mark Cuban rumblings if the Mavericks get off to a poor start and the season cannot be turned around.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 14, 2019, 08:56:23 PM
When it's so bad the unlikable Bloomberg thinks he should run....well, that's bad.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on October 15, 2019, 04:58:25 AM
When it's so bad the unlikable Bloomberg thinks he should run....well, that's bad.

I can't recall if it was you or Thin Lizzy that made this point but evidently many of these moderate types like Bloomberg or Shultz the coffee guy, STILL have not gotten it through their heads that they are despised just as much as the Republicans on the other side of the aisle. It's laughable to think they will win a Democratic primary in this day and age.

Maybe Bloomberg is looking to go third party?? Still think that favors Trump because his base of supporters is rock solid.

Anyways, the only reason Elizabeth Warren is getting the traction she is is because she pretends to be this leftist warrior who champions Medicare for All and open borders.

All of that goes right out of the window once she secures the nomination and pivots back towards the center.

I just can't imagine her being on stage with Trump and supporting those ideas. He will MURDER her with Independents if she decides to take that route.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on October 15, 2019, 05:19:00 AM
If Warren is elected, I believe Wall St loses confidence in the economy, and $ will get lost.


If Republicans then win the House, then we get 4 years of zero shit getting done, and back to politics as usual.

The only thing that will change is that those with self induced hysteria who live on Twitter will have nothing to do, or will have to refocus efforst to find something to be miserable about.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on October 15, 2019, 09:53:28 AM
Racist comment reported.

 ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 15, 2019, 10:29:23 AM
Maybe we will hear some more Mark Cuban rumblings if the Mavericks get off to a poor start and the season cannot be turned around.

That would mean he enters the race around January or February.  Probably too late. 

But this is the worst crop of frontrunners I have ever seen. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 15, 2019, 05:27:30 PM
Holy shit is this debate boring. Nothing but Trump bashing and “Tax the rich!!”
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 15, 2019, 05:51:56 PM
LOL, like clockWork AOC tweets this:

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
Tax the rich.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 15, 2019, 07:53:07 PM
Joe Biden: “I don’t mean to offend anyone else on stage, but I’m the only one up here who has accomplished anything.”

Eleven other Democrat candidate’s heads explode.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on October 16, 2019, 06:11:09 AM
LOL, like clock AOC tweets this:

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
Tax the rich.

What legislation has she written and passed?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 16, 2019, 07:40:11 AM
What legislation has she written and passed?

Nothing that I know of and her bill to ban cows didn’t get off the ground.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on October 16, 2019, 08:18:32 AM
Holy shit is this debate boring. Nothing but Trump bashing and “Tax the rich!!”

I was looking for a noose to hang myself with about 20 minutes in. Briz-utal.

The gay mayor would probably give Trump the most trouble out of everyone but that three headed monster of Biden/Warren/Bernie just will not give his campaign the oxygen needed to move up and put something together. Yang/Tulsi as well. Decent stage presence from both and solid grassroots support but the old guard just isn't going to let these 2 do anything other than mire around in single digits mediocrity.

It's looking more and more like Warren, in which case Trump likely takes Colorado and Nevada.

Probably takes New Mexico as well, using her 40+ year track record of blatant lies against her. I think the last time New Mexico went Republican was 04 with Bush?

The RNC is already expanding and investing big time in Minnesota. Look for Trump to campaign hard there and push that Rust Belt dominance westward.

'Muh Arizona blue' is simply laughable at this point.

Is Virginia out of the question for Trump? I don't know but if he takes that we will have an early indication that 400 electoral votes is not out of the question.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 16, 2019, 08:21:43 AM
What legislation has she written and passed?

Any nudes yet?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on October 16, 2019, 08:56:40 AM
Any nudes yet?

Ask this dude:

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fchumley.barstoolsports.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F05%2F06%2FAOC_beau.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 16, 2019, 10:16:20 AM
Ask this dude:

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fchumley.barstoolsports.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F05%2F06%2FAOC_beau.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)

 ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on October 22, 2019, 10:14:01 AM
Hillary leaves door open to 2020 run: ‘We have to nominate best’ candidate

(https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/06/37/51/18479728/15/rawImage.jpg)

At Hillary Clinton’s latest campaign stop in Oregon, the former first lady again refused to endorse any of the current Democrats running in the 2020 presidential primary, but she did highlight her experience with impeachment and essentially described herself as the ideal candidate to take on Trump in 2020.

Clinton and daughter Chelsea were at Portland’s Revolution Hall on Saturday to promote their new book about “gutsy women” when the moderator, local author Cheryl Strayed, brought up 2020, KGW8 reports.

“All that matters is that we win,” Clinton told Strayed. “I hate to be so, you know, simplistic about it. We have to nominate (cough) … the best …

“You!” someone shouted from the audience, drawing a big smile and laugh from Clinton.


She didn’t disavow the idea.

“Oh, my. Well, thank you,” Clinton said. “I just feel so strongly that, look, I just want to say a little bit more about this, because what’s going on now with the impeachment inquiry is not a choice it was an obligation under the Constitution.”

The 71-year-old twice failed presidential candidate explained that it’s a “big challenge” to run a presidential campaign amid the political chaos in Washington, D.C., then laid out her experience in such a “really complicated political environment.”

Clinton touted her involvement building the case for impeachment against former President Richard Nixon and lectured about the founding fathers including constitutional protections against a president “who would try to curry favor with foreign powers.” Clinton contends impeachment may eventually sway Republicans in the House against Trump, and “if enough vote against him” it could spark a Republican rebellion in the Senate, as well.

“I say all of that because it’s hard to know who’s going to be the best candidate to beat this president, assuming this president is still running,” she said. “I mean this is a really complicated political environment.”

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/lets-see-who-emerges-hillary-leaves-door-open-to-2020-run-sidesteps-praising-candidates/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 22, 2019, 10:17:13 AM
Hillary leaves door open to 2020 run: ‘We have to nominate best’ candidate

(https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/06/37/51/18479728/15/rawImage.jpg)

At Hillary Clinton’s latest campaign stop in Oregon, the former first lady again refused to endorse any of the current Democrats running in the 2020 presidential primary, but she did highlight her experience with impeachment and essentially described herself as the ideal candidate to take on Trump in 2020.

Clinton and daughter Chelsea were at Portland’s Revolution Hall on Saturday to promote their new book about “gutsy women” when the moderator, local author Cheryl Strayed, brought up 2020, KGW8 reports.

“All that matters is that we win,” Clinton told Strayed. “I hate to be so, you know, simplistic about it. We have to nominate (cough) … the best …

“You!” someone shouted from the audience, drawing a big smile and laugh from Clinton.


She didn’t disavow the idea.

“Oh, my. Well, thank you,” Clinton said. “I just feel so strongly that, look, I just want to say a little bit more about this, because what’s going on now with the impeachment inquiry is not a choice it was an obligation under the Constitution.”

The 71-year-old twice failed presidential candidate explained that it’s a “big challenge” to run a presidential campaign amid the political chaos in Washington, D.C., then laid out her experience in such a “really complicated political environment.”

Clinton touted her involvement building the case for impeachment against former President Richard Nixon and lectured about the founding fathers including constitutional protections against a president “who would try to curry favor with foreign powers.” Clinton contends impeachment may eventually sway Republicans in the House against Trump, and “if enough vote against him” it could spark a Republican rebellion in the Senate, as well.

“I say all of that because it’s hard to know who’s going to be the best candidate to beat this president, assuming this president is still running,” she said. “I mean this is a really complicated political environment.”

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/lets-see-who-emerges-hillary-leaves-door-open-to-2020-run-sidesteps-praising-candidates/


GO HILL GO!!!!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on October 22, 2019, 10:18:12 AM
Biden Holds on to Double-Digit Lead in New National Poll

(https://i1.wp.com/www.nationalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/joe-biden-gun-safety.jpg?w=2000&ssl=1)

Biden Holds on to Double-Digit Lead in New National Poll
By ZACHARY EVANS
October 21, 2019 6:00 PM

Joe Biden responds to a question during a forum held by the Giffords group and March For Our Lives in Las Vegas, Nev., October 2, 2019. (Steve Marcus/Reuters)
Former vice president Joe Biden retains a ten-point lead over Senator Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.) in a national poll of likely Democratic primary voters released Monday.

Biden received support from 32 percent of respondents while Warren claimed the support of 22 percent in the SurveyUSA poll. His support was down just one point from September’s SurveyUSA poll, while Warren’s was up by three points. The closest competitor to either was Senator Bernie Sanders (D., Vt.), who received the support of 17 percent of respondents despite suffering a heart attack on the campaign trail earlier this month. His level of support was unchanged since September.

Several other candidates failed to clear the 5 percent mark, including entrepreneur Andrew Yang, Senator Cory Booker (D., N.J.), and former representative Beto O’Rourke (D., Tex.).

President Trump has in recent weeks attacked Biden with allegations of corruption involving son Hunter Biden’s business ties in Ukraine and China. In response, the Biden campaign has adopted an aggressive strategy to deflect attention back onto alleged abuses committed by Trump.

Trump’s allegations do not seem to have affected support for Biden within the Democratic field, but the former vice president is currently lagging in the fundraising race, having raised about $15.2 million in the third quarter compared to Sanders’s $25.3 million and Warren’s $24.6 million.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/new-poll-joe-biden-double-digit-lead/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 22, 2019, 11:25:14 AM
Double digit lead but nobody knows another person that would admit voting for him.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 22, 2019, 11:56:00 AM
Double digit lead but nobody knows another person that would admit voting for him.

Double digit lead over Pocohontas.

Massive deficit to Trump head to head.

President Donald Trump’s massive 2020 election win is going to be some amazing TV viewing of Libidiot meltdowns.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on October 22, 2019, 01:23:19 PM
Double digit lead over Pocohontas.

Massive deficit to Trump head to head.

President Donald Trump’s massive 2020 election win is going to be some amazing TV viewing of Libidiot meltdowns.

Ha Ha Ha
Pocahontas 🤣😂🤣 That’s Going To Hurt Her & Haunt Her - Good.
Makes me smile every Time.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on October 22, 2019, 08:26:59 PM
Can't believe people would vote for a life long crooked senile pedo for POTUS..

wow.. fuq is wrong with people.. heck pick anyone else if you don't like Trump.. but geez.. a proven creepy pedo you vote for?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 23, 2019, 05:17:17 AM
Grinch....Primemuscle isn’t running for POTUS.

LOL

Looking at the Dem candidates, he might as well be.😂
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on October 23, 2019, 08:02:51 AM
Double digit lead but nobody knows another person that would admit voting for him.

And Amy Klobuchar is more popular than Tulsi Gabbard?

It does make you wonder.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on October 23, 2019, 08:11:09 AM
And Amy Klobuchar is more popular than Tulsi Gabbard?

It does make you wonder.



Crowder recently uncovered google/youtube blocking searches on her in the USA.....they were using VPNs to do searches - international ones were showing Tulsi's stuff right after she went after Clinton, the US searches were coming up empty.

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but this threat is real.  Too many examples of google manipulating content under the guise of an objective algorithm.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 23, 2019, 03:32:50 PM
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

Hillary Clinton mulling 2020 run, citing weak Dem field, claim of email vindication: reports
By Danielle Wallace | Fox News

Reports: Hillary Clinton mulling 2020 run, citing weak Dem field, claim of email vindication
Hillary Clinton is mulling 2020 run but she’s not the only latecomer to run for 2020

Speculation is growing that Hillary Clinton will make a last-minute entry into the 2020 presidential race after reports published Tuesday said members of the Democratic establishment doubted any of the party’s current top candidates can beat President Trump next November.

But those Democrats already running said Clinton is doing more harm than good for the party by taking aim at Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, in recent remarks.

Clinton in recent weeks has privately stated she would enter the 2020 presidential race if she were certain she could win, The New York Times reported Tuesday. The story, titled “Anxious Democratic Establishment Asks, ‘Is There Anybody Else?’,” said about a half-dozen Democratic donors gathered in New York City questioned whether former front-runner Joe Biden could stand strong against Trump, citing Biden’s lackluster debate performance in Ohio last week.

They also raised concerns about Biden's fundraising struggles and his need to defend his family’s business dealings in Ukraine amid the ongoing Trump impeachment inquiry.

They also said Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders were likely too liberal to win the general election.

Meanwhile, The Washington Post, citing unnamed sources, reported that Clinton was considering a 2020 rematch against Trump after the State Department concluded this week there was "no persuasive evidence of systemic, deliberate mishandling of classified information" regarding Clinton's use of a private email server while serving as secretary of state.

The same State Department report, however, found dozens of individuals were at fault for mishandling classified information and found hundreds of security violations during her 2009-2013 tenure.

Clinton, the first woman to win a major party presidential nomination – and the national popular vote leader with almost 3 million more votes than Trump – remains a popular figure in her party, even after enduring criticism for losing key Midwestern states in 2016. For Republicans, she's a perennial target — currently in the Mississippi governor's race, where Democratic nominee Jim Hood, a longtime attorney general, is being attacked for acknowledging he voted for her over Trump.

Clinton’s supporters within the Democratic establishment have also passed around an op-ed published earlier this month in the San Francisco Chronicle by former Mayor Willie Brown titled: “Who should run against Trump? How about Hillary Clinton?” The Washington Post reported.

Both the Post and the Times reported that Clinton was not the only possible last-minute candidate on Democrats’ minds. Also being considered were: former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Disney chief executive Bob Iger, Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, and former first lady Michelle Obama.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton-2020-rematch-trump-presidential-race-new-york-times-washington-post?fbclid=IwAR0f_le1xNoyrjuQauv1Miqsq5P7uJ-cFGaz-a3rlJL79J9DxtZ3asV-z_g
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on October 23, 2019, 06:11:50 PM
Looking at the Dem candidates, he might as well be.😂

Thanks, but I'm too old and too lazy for that job.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 24, 2019, 11:15:10 AM
Tim Ryan ends campaign. In other news, Tim Ryan was running for POTUS.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on October 24, 2019, 11:17:10 AM
Tim Ryan ends campaign. In other news, Tim Ryan was running for POTUS.

Who?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 24, 2019, 04:53:13 PM
Tim Ryan ends campaign. In other news, Tim Ryan was running for POTUS.

lol
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on October 25, 2019, 07:32:53 AM
Crowder recently uncovered google/youtube blocking searches on her in the USA.....they were using VPNs to do searches - international ones were showing Tulsi's stuff right after she went after Clinton, the US searches were coming up empty.

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but this threat is real.  Too many examples of google manipulating content under the guise of an objective algorithm.

I think we are approaching territory where this whole manipulation thing is becoming accepted knowledge, at least among the people who follow this sort of stuff.

I just do not understand how it can continue to be a tool utilized long term. At some you have to stand up and face the music, right?

The Bernie situation in 2016 almost seems like ancient news but here we have it again, another Democratic candidate being messed with because she goes against the grain. And more and more people who support these types of candidates are starting to wake up and really complain about the situation. Does this cause a schism in the party which will affect their ability to go out and win national elections? You need turnout to win and it's hard to imagine a lot of these potential voters showing up to the polls with this sort of trickery going on behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 25, 2019, 10:36:13 AM
Conflicting poll data. CNN has Biden way ahead. Quinnipiac has warren comfortably ahead.🤔


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 25, 2019, 11:44:14 AM
Conflicting poll data. CNN has Biden way ahead. Quinnipiac has warren comfortably ahead.🤔


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html


Jeff Zucker prefers Biden. He knows there is a better chance of a large asteroid hitting the White House than Elizabeth Moron living there.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on October 25, 2019, 02:14:58 PM
PEDO for POTUS 2020 !!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 25, 2019, 06:23:29 PM
PEDO for POTUS 2020 !!

I don’t think Primemuscle is running is he?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on October 25, 2019, 06:31:15 PM
Pocahontas & Butt-Plug as running buddy
That would be Hilarious 😂🤣😂
Donald would have a Field Day Provoking & Pointing Fun
At these 2 Non Stop.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on October 27, 2019, 10:07:02 AM
Has this guy completely lost touch with reality?

Biden Caught In Blatant Lie, Tells Black Students He Went To Black University

Carmine Sabia   By Carmine Sabia
Published October 26, 2019 at 4:05pm

Joe Biden is not having gaffes anymore, he is stone cold lying to people and he thinks that he will not get caught.

In front of a group of black voters this weekend the former vice president claimed he started at a historically black university.

“I got started out of an HBCU, Delaware State, and I don’t want to hear anything negative about Delaware state here. Okay?

Advertisement - story continues below

“Those are my folks,” he said. “But all kidding aside HBCUs (Historically Black Colleges & Universities), are in trouble financially.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/biden-caught-blatant-lie-tells-black-students-went-black-university/amp/


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 27, 2019, 10:41:29 AM
Republicans = firmly behind President Donald Trump and his historic campaign fundraising

Democrats = no electable candidates and the DNC is broke.

FOUR MORE YEARS OF PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP !
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 27, 2019, 11:52:54 AM
Reality check.
Trump won the key states of Michigan and Penn by slim margins to win in 2016.
His support has slipped a bit since then based on the big defeat in the house during the 2018 midterms.
What puzzles me, is why Trump and his supporters double down on the "insult and ridicule" campaign technique.
How do you get MORE voters when you call all non-Trumpers "dumb ass"?

It's tough to make a sale when you insult the customers.

Big defeat? You’re delusional. President Donald Trump is going to win in 2020 with a historic landslide victory.

Who do you think is going to stop him - Pocohontas Warren?

Stop trying to blame others for your incessant stupidity.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 27, 2019, 12:10:35 PM
Reality check.
Trump won the key states of Michigan and Penn by slim margins to win in 2016.
His support has slipped a bit since then based on the big defeat in the house during the 2018 midterms.
What puzzles me, is why Trump and his supporters double down on the "insult and ridicule" campaign technique.
How do you get MORE voters when you call all non-Trumpers "dumb ass"?

It's tough to make a sale when you insult the customers.

The economy is doing great.   We are in no new wars.   We have had no terrorists attacks.   The far left is insane.   

At this point none of these demented leftists stands a shot.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 27, 2019, 12:13:51 PM
The economy is doing great.   We are in no new wars.   We have had no terrorists attacks.   The far left is insane.   

At this point none of these demented leftists stands a shot.

The 2020 election is going to be Capitalism versus Socialism.

President Donald Trump will win 47-48 states.

By 2024 the Democrat Party will be extinct
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on October 27, 2019, 12:45:28 PM
The 2020 election is going to be Capitalism versus Socialism.

President Donald Trump will win 47-48 states.

By 2024 the Democrat Party will be extinct

While I can only wish that to happen... you better wake up to reality in that the older generations are dying off and 99% of younger voters are dems due to school brainwashing.

Soon the Dems will BE the ONLY party in power
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on October 27, 2019, 12:46:13 PM
Has this guy has completely lost touch with reality?

Biden Caught In Blatant Lie, Tells Black Students He Went To Black University

Carmine Sabia   By Carmine Sabia
Published October 26, 2019 at 4:05pm

Joe Biden is not having gaffes anymore, he is stone cold lying to people and he thinks that he will not get caught.

In front of a group of black voters this weekend the former vice president claimed he started at a historically black university.

“I got started out of an HBCU, Delaware State, and I don’t want to hear anything negative about Delaware state here. Okay?

Advertisement - story continues below

“Those are my folks,” he said. “But all kidding aside HBCUs (Historically Black Colleges & Universities), are in trouble financially.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/biden-caught-blatant-lie-tells-black-students-went-black-university/amp/




https://www.desu.edu/


Looks like it is to me.. whats the problem?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 27, 2019, 02:30:09 PM
While I can only wish that to happen... you better wake up to reality in that the older generations are dying off and 99% of younger voters are dems due to school brainwashing.

Soon the Dems will BE the ONLY party in power

Young people are Democrats until they start working full time and paying taxes.

Then they become Republicans.

Only losers who have leeched off the government their entire adult lives like Primemuscle and Howard remain Democrats over the age of 30.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on October 27, 2019, 02:35:13 PM
Reality check.
Trump won the key states of Michigan and Penn by slim margins to win in 2016.
His support has slipped a bit since then based on the big defeat in the house during the 2018 midterms.
What puzzles me, is why Trump and his supporters double down on the "insult and ridicule" campaign technique.
How do you get MORE voters when you call all non-Trumpers "dumb ass"?

It's tough to make a sale when you insult the customers.

See bolded - why are you using the events that happened almost a year ago as the reference point to make a point today?  So much has transpired since then.

I doubt the Democrats' actions in the House over the last year have gained them favor, and they are likely worse off from a year ago in terms of their presidential candidates.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 27, 2019, 02:39:51 PM
See bolded - why are you using the events that happened almost a year ago as the reference point to make a point today?  So much has transpired since then.

I doubt the Democrats' actions in the House over the last year have gained them favor.

From now on, Democrat candidate polling will just use actual number of supporters:

Biden = 112
Warren =73
Harris = 8
Booker = 6.5
Buttplug = 24
Yang = 81
Gabbard = 464
Castro = 3
Clinton = 3
DeBlasio= 0
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on October 27, 2019, 03:15:32 PM
Reality check.
Trump won the key states of Michigan and Penn by slim margins to win in 2016.
His support has slipped a bit since then based on the big defeat in the house during the 2018 midterms.
What puzzles me, is why Trump and his supporters double down on the "insult and ridicule" campaign technique.
How do you get MORE voters when you call all non-Trumpers "dumb ass"?

It's tough to make a sale when you insult the customers.
Reality check, going in to 2016 Trump had no support of any state, until election night. What was Killarys chance of winning? 98.6%?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on October 27, 2019, 05:08:19 PM
ROFL!!   ;D

(https://babylonbee.com/img/articles/article-5010-2.jpg)

https://babylonbee.com/news/hillary-clinton-accidentally-posts-condolences-for-tulsi-gabbards-suicide-one-day-early
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on October 27, 2019, 05:09:00 PM
https://www.desu.edu/


Looks like it is to me.. whats the problem?

Biden went to University of Delaware not Delaware State.

Delaware State is an HBCU.

They are different schools.

If he actually said this he's a moron.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 27, 2019, 05:56:43 PM
Biden hasn't campaigned much since the internet had instant fact checking. Imagine all the protected lying this guy did in the 70s and 80s.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on October 27, 2019, 10:29:34 PM
Biden went to University of Delaware not Delaware State.

Delaware State is an HBCU.

They are different schools.

If he actually said this he's a moron.

"“I got started out of an HBCU, Delaware State, and I don’t want to hear anything negative about Delaware state here. Okay?

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“Those are my folks,” he said. “But all kidding aside HBCUs (Historically Black Colleges & Universities), are in trouble financially.”

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on October 28, 2019, 08:37:38 AM
Cardi B fears Trump will win in 2020: ‘Nobody’s saying they love a Democrat’

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Before the Democratic debate on Tuesday night, Cardi B expressed doubt that any of the Democratic presidential candidates have what it takes to beat Donald Trump next year.

In an appearance alongside Chance the Rapper on TI’s podcast expediTIously With Tip, she worried that no 2020 candidate had risen above the pack and suggested Trump’s base was too entrenched to be beaten.

Chance said: “I think Trump is going to win again at the next election because he’s got the biggest base.”

Cardi agreed: “I really hate to say it, but sometimes I do believe that Trump will be winning. Just because every single time I don’t see nobody saying they love a Democratic candidate. There’s no candidate that people are saying like we love, we want them to win.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/16/cardi-b-trump-bernie-sanders-election-2020
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on October 28, 2019, 09:40:05 AM
"“I got started out of an HBCU, Delaware State, and I don’t want to hear anything negative about Delaware state here. Okay?

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“Those are my folks,” he said. “But all kidding aside HBCUs (Historically Black Colleges & Universities), are in trouble financially.”



Well, what is it exactly we can help you with, TheGrinch?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 28, 2019, 06:53:21 PM
Hunter Biden is now 2nd in the polls for 2020 Democrat candidates.

His campaign slogan is, “I Can’t Help It Joe Is Senile.”
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 28, 2019, 06:54:33 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/the-democratic-plan-for-a-42-national-sales-tax-202549219.html


"The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB) has done voters a favor by spelling out what kinds of new taxes it would take to come up with that much money. Warren justifies many of her programs by saying all it would take is “two cents” from the wealthy. That’s a reference to her 2% wealth tax on ultra-millionaires. But Medicare for All would be so expensive that if you taxed top earners at 100%—that’s right, if you took all the income of couples earning more than $408,000 per year—you’d still fall far short. And everybody getting taxed at 100% would obviously stop working."



How does a 42% federal VAT sound? DUH
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 28, 2019, 09:52:45 PM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on October 29, 2019, 10:31:50 AM
Joe Biden in Danger of Humiliating Loss in Iowa, Top Democrats Warn
Tyler Pager
Bloomberg•October 29, 2019

(Bloomberg) -- Joe Biden risks a humiliating third- or fourth-place finish in Iowa early next year, according to nearly a dozen senior Democrats in the state who attribute the prospect to what they see as a poorly organized operation that has failed to engage with voters and party leaders.

With fewer than 100 days until the Feb. 3 caucuses, Biden is failing to spend the time with small groups of voters and party officials that Iowans expect and his campaign’s outreach has been largely ineffective, according to 11 senior Democrats in the state. That could send Biden to a crippling loss behind Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg, who have highly organized campaigns in Iowa, said the Democrats, most of whom requested anonymity to speak candidly about the campaign.

. . .

https://guy-humiliating-loss-iowa-080000058.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on October 29, 2019, 07:28:26 PM
Keep going back to my original potential scenario: Warren takes Iowa, Sanders New Hampshire and Biden South Carolina and Nevada?

Sanders leads, Biden slumps in N.H. poll

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DURHAM, N.H. — Former Vice President Joe Biden suffered a precipitous drop in the latest New Hampshire poll, falling to the lowest point his campaign has seen this election, while Sen. Bernie Sanders recaptured his first-place spot narrowly over Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

Sanders was the first choice of 21 percent of likely Democratic primary voters, followed by Sen. Elizabeth Warren at 18 percent, Biden at 15 percent and South Bend (Ind.) Mayor Pete Buttigieg at 10 percent, according to the Granite State Poll conducted by the University of New Hampshire and co-sponsored by CNN.


In a three-way tie for fifth place: entrepreneur Andrew Yang, Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, each at 5 percent.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2019/10/29/bernie-sanders-joe-biden-new-hampshire-poll-061068
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on October 29, 2019, 08:13:05 PM
PEDO for POTUS 2020 !!

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 29, 2019, 08:37:06 PM
It’s only been a few days since Al-Baghdadi was killed. In light of this, I have decided to refrain from posting about Ilhan Omar during her time of mourning.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on October 30, 2019, 06:33:43 AM
It’s only been a few days since Al-Baghdadi was killed. In light of this, I have decided to refrain from posting about Ilhan Omar during her time of mourning.

 ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Griffith on October 30, 2019, 10:23:15 AM
What a bunch of clowns.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 01, 2019, 07:34:40 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/elizabeth-warren-unveils-52-trillion-medicare-all-plan



"At a cost of "just under $52 trillion" (about what the current system will cost over 10 years), Warren's plan calls for the elimination of employer-sponsored health insurance, which over 50% of Americans now receive. It would be replaced by free government health coverage for all Americans.

To pay for the $20.5 trillion, Warren would require employers pay trillions of dollars to the government. For those who currently pay for employee coverage, this would replace much of that spending. Businesses who don't currently cover healthcare costs would be exempt. Warren would also tax financial transactions such as stock trades, as well as boost taxes for investment gains for the top 1% of households. Her signature wealth tax proposal would also take a larger chunk from billionaires. Lastly, Warren wants to cut $800 billion in military spending."




...AND PEOPLE WONDER WHY THEY NEED TO IMPEACH, HAHAHAHA...ANTI-CAPITALIST LOON. AN IMMEDIATE AND TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF JOBS AND THE ECONOMY.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 01, 2019, 09:03:01 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/elizabeth-warren-unveils-52-trillion-medicare-all-plan



"At a cost of "just under $52 trillion" (about what the current system will cost over 10 years), Warren's plan calls for the elimination of employer-sponsored health insurance, which over 50% of Americans now receive. It would be replaced by free government health coverage for all Americans.

To pay for the $20.5 trillion, Warren would require employers pay trillions of dollars to the government. For those who currently pay for employee coverage, this would replace much of that spending. Businesses who don't currently cover healthcare costs would be exempt. Warren would also tax financial transactions such as stock trades, as well as boost taxes for investment gains for the top 1% of households. Her signature wealth tax proposal would also take a larger chunk from billionaires. Lastly, Warren wants to cut $800 billion in military spending."




...AND PEOPLE WONDER WHY THEY NEED TO IMPEACH, HAHAHAHA...ANTI-CAPITALIST LOON. AN IMMEDIATE AND TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF JOBS AND THE ECONOMY.

She is going nowhere w this crappola
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on November 01, 2019, 09:08:58 AM
She is going nowhere w this crappola

Markets will tank.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 01, 2019, 09:21:01 AM
Markets will tank.

She will lose like mondale with this idiocy.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 01, 2019, 11:22:11 AM
The thing is you know she spent the whole last week coming up with that. Totally spent her life in a fantasy economic model....higher education. Like govt an ivy league college takes the funding for granted and everything is just deducted from this endless supply of suckers.

She's in a bubble and has no idea how difficult free market business is. No idea that people smart enough to run businesses will circumvent punitive tax rates by any means necessary.


I invite ANY liberal to defend this. The only good thing you can say about it would be that it's slightly less crazy than the green new deal.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on November 01, 2019, 05:07:43 PM
Beto, we hardly knew you! 

Beto O'Rourke on Friday announced he is ending his bid for president, leaving the question of what's next for the former congressman wide open.

O'Rourke entered the presidential race in March after running for U.S. Senate against incumbent Republican Ted Cruz. The El Paso native narrowly lost the race, but used the momentum from his senate bid as a launching pad for his presidential campaign.

On Friday — after failing to break through in the polls and with fundraising numbers that lagged behind others in the crowded field — O'Rourke announced that his time as a Democratic presidential candidate had come to a close.

"Though it is difficult to accept, it is clear to me now that this campaign does not have the means to move forward successfully," O'Rourke said in a news release. "My service to the country will not be as a candidate or as the nominee."

https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/01/beto-orourke-drops-out-presidential-2020-election-future-senate/4128043002/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 01, 2019, 05:08:58 PM
Another nut bag liberal idiot.   Good riddance.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 01, 2019, 05:10:19 PM
Good riddance.  Next to Biden, O'Rourke was the dumbest Democrat candidate running. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 01, 2019, 10:09:40 PM
Beto "my service to the country" ... the country that he wanted to tear down all borders for... nut.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on November 02, 2019, 05:47:48 AM
Sorry Beto, we're just not that into you.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 02, 2019, 11:27:40 AM
Biden now polling 4th in the early primary states. Buh bye.

Really had no chance without Obama on the trail with him.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 02, 2019, 11:52:47 AM
Biden now polling 4th in the early primary states. Buh bye.

Really had no chance without Obama on the trail with him.

And he is too old.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on November 02, 2019, 01:34:59 PM
Ilhan Omar: It would take something 'tragic' for Democrats to pick Biden or Buttigieg for president

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Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota said in a podcast out Thursday that it would take something “tragic” for fellow Democrats to nominate Joseph R. Biden or Pete Buttigieg for president.

The first-term congresswoman made the comment while being asked about the candidates during a rapid-fire round of questions near the end of an interview conducted by The Intercept.


“If one of them is the candidate for your party, who would you rather it be?” she was asked by the interviewer.

“So you’re saying if something tragic happened and they ended up being the nominee?” Ms. Omarreplied.

Pressed further to answer with whatever comes to mind upon hearing both candidates’ names, Ms. Omar replied: “I don’t know. It’s hard. ‘None’ comes to my head.”

Ms. Omar has endorsed Sen. Bernard Sanders, Vermont Independent, as her preferred Democratic presidential candidate.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/24/ilhan-omar-it-would-take-something-tragic-for-demo/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 04, 2019, 08:51:03 AM
If you are an intellectually honest Democrat, you have to be sick that your top three choices are Biden, Warren, and Sanders, with people like Kamala Harris waiting in the wings.  What a truly terrible lot of candidates. 

Poll: Biden lead over Sanders in Michigan slips to 6 points
BY REBECCA KLAR - 11/04/19
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/468847-poll-biden-leads-sanders-by-6-points-in-michigan
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on November 04, 2019, 08:57:05 AM
If you are an intellectually honest Democrat, you have to be sick that your top three choices are Biden, Warren, and Sanders, with people like Kamala Harris waiting in the wings.  What a truly terrible lot of candidates. 

Poll: Biden lead over Sanders in Michigan slips to 6 points
BY REBECCA KLAR - 11/04/19
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/468847-poll-biden-leads-sanders-by-6-points-in-michigan

It's so bad.

Feels like it has to go back to Biden.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 04, 2019, 09:26:48 AM
It's so bad.

Feels like it has to go back to Biden.




In a debate with Trump they would have to enact a mercy rule on any of the 3 leading dem candidates. They all are old, frail white people....one of them might pass out trying to defend their BS.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 04, 2019, 11:09:26 AM


In a debate with Trump they would have to enact a mercy rule on any of the 3 leading dem candidates. They all are old, frail white people....one of them might pass out trying to defend their BS.

Warren - 70 years old
Trump - 73 years old
Biden - 76 years old
Sanders - 78 years old
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 04, 2019, 11:21:28 AM
Warren - 70 years old
Trump - 73 years old
Biden - 76 years old
Sanders - 78 years old


Biden can’t remember what he had for lunch. 

Sanders and Warren are both almost communists.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 04, 2019, 11:55:19 AM
Trump has the constitution of a horse...ask Stormy.  ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 04, 2019, 12:40:33 PM
It's so bad.

Feels like it has to go back to Biden.


That was who the established picked, till they realized how horrible he is.  Again.  They rejected him twice before.  I don't know why they decided to anoint him this time. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 04, 2019, 12:41:15 PM
Warren - 70 years old
Trump - 73 years old
Biden - 76 years old
Sanders - 78 years old


But only one of them performs like a much younger person. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 04, 2019, 01:55:14 PM
That was who the established picked, till they realized how horrible he is.  Again.  They rejected him twice before.  I don't know why they decided to anoint him this time. 


It wasn't decided, it was by default. Plenty of people could have run but didn't want to lose or be destroyed forever in a debate.

Mark Cuban
Oprah
Michelle O
Howard Schultz
Bloomberg
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 04, 2019, 01:59:09 PM

It wasn't decided, it was by default. Plenty of people could have run but didn't want to lose or be destroyed forever in a debate.

Mark Cuban
Oprah
Michelle O
Howard Schultz
Bloomberg

I don't completely agree.  I think both parties crown someone early in the process.  Republicans did it with Dole and McCain.  Democrats did it with Hillary Clinton and now Biden. 

I guess you could consider them "default" candidates, but the establishment and big money often pick someone early in the process.  They tried it with Jeb Bush very early, then abandoned him. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 04, 2019, 02:29:21 PM
I don't completely agree.  I think both parties crown someone early in the process.  Republicans did it with Dole and McCain.  Democrats did it with Hillary Clinton and now Biden. 

I guess you could consider them "default" candidates, but the establishment and big money often pick someone early in the process.  They tried it with Jeb Bush very early, then abandoned him. 



Different this time because the prior POTUS did NOT want Biden. That or the fact that Hillary scooped up all the power in the party and then lost, leaving no real brains in place to choose.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 04, 2019, 06:39:54 PM
Warren - 70 years old
Trump - 73 years old
Biden - 76 years old
Sanders - 78 years old


A list of the greatest President in the history of the United States and three old lying socialist losers who have never accomplished anything.

God bless President Donald Trump !
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on November 04, 2019, 08:15:29 PM
PEDO for POTUS 2020!

Go Biden!!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 05, 2019, 05:25:05 AM
Right now the DNC and Nancy Pelosi have lost control of the Democrat Party to Bernie Sanders and three communist, America-hating females.

Donald Trump Jr. is also going to make a great two term President
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on November 05, 2019, 05:28:57 AM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on November 05, 2019, 06:21:42 AM
Right now the DNC and Nancy Pelosi have lost control of the Democrat Party to Bernie Sanders and three communist, America-hating females.

Donald Trump Jr. is also going to make a great two term President

Good looking Gen-X guy. Solid mic skills. Connects with the working class and has the Trump pedigree.

I could see him make a go for it. Might even do better with the suburban housewife vote as well.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on November 05, 2019, 06:26:42 AM
Video in the link below

Biden takes on internet meme: I’m not a child molester! (VIDEO)


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Joe Biden explaining how his grandson showed him a meme of him saying "Joe was molesting a child"
The crowd is in shock, then one guy in the back starts laughing and Joe gives him the death stare🤣

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Joe Biden wanted an Iowa audience to know he’s not really a child molester, and devoted some of his stump speech yesterday to refute the notion.

Biden was in Iowa opening a Des Moines campaign office and brought up a meme supposedly floating around the internet.
“There was something a, uh, uh, uh, on the internet and I’m not saying it was Trump, I don’t know where it came from,” Biden said of the conversation with his granddaughter.

“He said, ‘Pop, we know it’s going to be mean, we know it’s going to be ugly.’ And I’m looking at this kid who was then in 7th grade. And I’m thinking to myself, ‘Why would he have to do this?’ And he takes out his phone and shows me a picture of us” at his son’s funeral – READ MORE

https://truepundit.com/biden-takes-on-internet-meme-im-not-a-child-molester-video/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Griffith on November 05, 2019, 07:12:23 AM
The democrats are complete loons.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 05, 2019, 08:15:09 AM
(https://brokeass2-9uzlt3u.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/pictsnShit/2016/01/weekend-at-bernies1-1024x552.jpg)

 :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 05, 2019, 08:19:57 AM
Am I the only one who didn't realize he was still running for POTUS? 

Julián Castro Laying Off Staff in New Hampshire, South Carolina
JOSHUA CAPLAN  5 Nov 2019

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/11/05/julian-castro-laying-off-staff-in-new-hampshire-south-carolina/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 05, 2019, 08:22:25 AM
Am I the only one who didn't realize he was still running for POTUS? 

Julián Castro Laying Off Staff in New Hampshire, South Carolina
JOSHUA CAPLAN  5 Nov 2019

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/11/05/julian-castro-laying-off-staff-in-new-hampshire-south-carolina/

Who in their FNG right mind donated a single cent to this idiot?  Probably prime, Basile, Straw, agnostic, LOL!!!!!   suckas!!!!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 05, 2019, 08:25:40 AM
Who in their FNG right mind donated a single cent to this idiot?  Probably prime, Basile, Straw, agnostic, LOL!!!!!   suckas!!!!

The future of the Democrat party is in trouble.  Only thing keeping them in the game is the Republican party sucks. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on November 05, 2019, 09:05:56 AM
The future of the Democrat party is in trouble.  Only thing keeping them in the game is the Republican party sucks. 

So simple and basic but so true.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 07, 2019, 06:37:31 PM
Bloomberg makes preparations for 2020 run
His move to file in the Alabama primary would be a first step toward a presidential bid, which he has not officially decided on.
By ALEX THOMPSON , ELENA SCHNEIDER and MARC CAPUTO

11/07/2019

Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is preparing to file paperwork to qualify for the Democratic presidential primary in Alabama, ahead of a Friday deadline. The move would be a first step toward a national campaign, though Bloomberg has not made a final decision to run.

"We now need to finish the job and ensure that Trump is defeated — but Mike is increasingly concerned that the current field of candidates is not well positioned to do that," longtime Bloomberg aide Howard Wolfson said in an email. "If Mike runs he would offer a new choice to Democrats built on a unique record running America’s biggest city, building a business from scratch and taking on some of America’s toughest challenges as a high-impact philanthropist."

Bloomberg has engaged in a will-he-or-won't-he routine for over a decade about running for president, but declined to jump in each time. Earlier this year he was exploring a bid, only to bow out after former Vice President Joe Biden made clear he would run.

"I believe I would defeat Donald Trump in a general election," Bloomberg wrote in March. "But I am clear-eyed about the difficulty of winning the Democratic nomination in such a crowded field."

"He's tired of being the almost-ran," said one former Bloomberg adviser on Thursday after the New York Post reported news of his moves. "Mortality is weighing heavily on him. This is the last time that he can run."

Bloomberg will almost certainly not qualify for the next debate in Atlanta on Nov. 20 and he will likely have to spend tens of millions of dollars in the next few weeks to make the debate stage in December, potentially setting a record for campaign spending in a short amount of time. His current wealth is estimated at $52 billion, per Forbes.

Bloomberg and his money have the potential to scramble the Democratic field, where no clear frontrunner has emerged. He is most similar ideologically with candidates like Biden and South Bend (Ind.) Mayor Pete Buttigieg and could threaten their candidacies or divide their potential voters.

Asked why Bloomberg changed his mind and whether he was underwhelmed by Biden's performance on the trail, an aide said that "it's not about any one candidate." But the aide added: "He is worried about the state of the Democratic primary campaign and the possibility that we could lose in November. He wants to avoid that more than anything else."

Bloomberg's money also could further sharpen the existing divisions in the field between the left-wing, populist candidates and more moderate, pragmatic ones. While advisers to Biden and Buttigieg declined to comment on Bloomberg's entry, Warren's team and Sanders himself reacted with near glee at the potential contrast he would offer.

"More billionaires seeking more political power surely isn't the change American needs," said Sanders campaign manager Faiz Shakir. Sanders weighed in on Twitter, saying "[t]he billionaire class is scared and they should be scared."

Warren welcomed Bloomberg to the race on Twitter and linked to a page about her wealth tax, adding: "If you're looking for policy plans that will make a huge difference for working people and which are very popular, start here."

Democratic strategist and longtime Barack Obama aide David Axelrod said concerns about Biden clearly contributed to Bloomberg's change of heart.

“There’s no question that Bloomberg’s calculus was that Biden was occupying a space, and the fact that he’s getting in is a clear indication that he’s not convinced Biden has the wherewithal to carry that torch," Axelrod said. "So yeah, I don’t think this is a positive development for Joe Biden."

Bloomberg has poured hundreds of millions of dollars into Democratic causes in recent years, earning him goodwill among many progressive activists and especially those connected with climate change and gun control. His funding of the gun control advocacy group Moms Demand Action has given the left a powerful counter to the National Rifle Association. But Bloomberg, who ran as a Republican in his first mayoral bid in 2001 before becoming an independent and then a Democrat, also faces vulnerabilities on the left on criminal justice and the regulation of Wall Street.

Last year, he defended the stop-and-frisk policing tactics during his mayoralty as helping decrease the murder rate without violating civil rights. "I think people, the voters, want low crime,” Bloomberg told the New York Times. “They don’t want kids to kill each other.”

He has also repeatedly criticized Warren's wealth tax proposal and suggested her policies toward the rich could lead the United States on a path to becoming Venezuela.

Bloomberg would be the second billionaire to make a late entry in the contest, after investor Tom Steyer jumped in over the summer. Steyer spent tens of millions in advertising to get on the debate stage but has failed to rise from the bottom of polls.

Longtime Democratic strategist Joe Trippi said it's possible Bloomberg could follow a similar trajectory. But Trippi said that he didn't think the former New York City mayor would enter the race without a realistic path to victory.

"I don’t think Wolfson or those folks would do this if they haven’t polled," Trippi said. "It’s not like they woke up and decided to do this. I’m sure they have data.”

Michael Nutter, the former Philadelphia mayor who wanted Bloomberg to run and then endorsed Biden, echoed that sentiment Thursday evening. “He doesn’t make rash decisions. This is serious," Nutter said. "Bloomberg has his own serious record of achievement in politics, philanthropy and certainly business. It’s kind of a triple threat.”

Bloomberg's deep pockets may allow him to chart an unconventional path to the nomination that is less dependent on the early states of Iowa and New Hampshire. Candidates often rely on making a splash in those contests to gain momentum and raise more money, but Bloomberg will likely be able to stay in the race as long as he wants without such pressure.

“It’s tough in Iowa," said Matt Paul, who ran Hillary Clinton's caucus operation in the state in 2016. "It’s tough with 90 days away. If he does this, this is not going to be an Iowa-centered campaign. If he does this, this is going to be a very unorthodox campaign."

Steve Benjamin, the mayor of Columbia, South Carolina, sat next to Bloomberg at an event in Washington last month and came away with an inkling of what might come.

“I sensed that he was still very interested in the race,” Benjamin said. “I gave him the lay of the land in South Carolina ... He wanted to hear more about it.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/07/bloomberg-preparing-to-file-for-alabama-presidential-primary-000322
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 07, 2019, 06:40:15 PM
How many socialists will vote for a billionaire? Can he kiss enough ass to woo a Bernie voter? Pucker power.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Griffith on November 07, 2019, 09:46:24 PM
How many socialists will vote for a billionaire? Can he kiss enough ass to woo a Bernie voter? Pucker power.

Except the billionaire actually has policies to help the working class and improve the economy for everyone.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on November 08, 2019, 07:35:41 AM
Except the billionaire actually has policies to help the working class and improve the economy for everyone.



bullcrap...  every NY'er friggin hated Blmbrg when he was Mayor
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on November 08, 2019, 08:43:47 AM
Too little too late.

I just don't see the campaign going anywhere. Best case scenario maybe maybe tops out between Mayor Pete and Bernie for that 4th spot.

Biden has the VP cred, the backing of the DNC machine and the largest portion of the black vote. Warren is sort of the tweener, has gotten by pretending to be this leftist warrior. Like the rest of her life though, just a complete lie. She will shift back toward the center if and when she gets the nomination.

Bernie is a legit dyed in the wool leftist and has that rock solid 10 to 15% support but ultimately I don't see it being enough. The 2016 mojo just isn't there.

Just have a hard time seeing where Bloomberg has enough oxygen to make a serious run at it.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 08, 2019, 01:32:40 PM
Except the billionaire actually has policies to help the working class and improve the economy for everyone.






Except he never did any of that in past.  ::)

NYC is a joke. There is no middle class there.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Griffith on November 09, 2019, 04:59:24 AM
bullcrap...  every NY'er friggin hated Blmbrg when he was Mayor

I thought you meant Trump.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 09, 2019, 07:34:14 AM
Michael Bloomberg is creepy, weird, and gay enough to be Liza Minelli’s husband.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on November 09, 2019, 07:44:52 AM
Imagine the cool "grab her by the pussy" stories we'd hear about Boozberg? :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 09, 2019, 09:58:48 AM
Michael Bloomberg is creepy, weird, and gay enough to be Liza Minelli’s husband.

Maybe so. But, Bloomberg’s personal wealth vastly exceeds that of Donald Trump ($53B verses $3B). I seem to remember Trump's base stating he was a good presidential candidate because of his successful business experience exampled by his vast wealth. Following this line of illogical thinking, wouldn't that make Bloomberg a 180% better choice?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: mazrim on November 09, 2019, 11:09:02 AM
Maybe so. But, Bloomberg’s personal wealth vastly exceeds that of Donald Trump ($53B verses $3B). I seem to remember Trump's base stating he was a good presidential candidate because of his successful business experience exampled by his vast wealth. Following this line of illogical thinking, wouldn't that make Bloomberg a 180% better choice?
No, that wasn't the only reason people voted for him. Your snide remarks are dumb and illogical.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on November 09, 2019, 11:33:55 AM
If Bloomberg gets the nomination he can knock out Warren's Getbigger (Billionaire) Tax.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 09, 2019, 11:34:55 AM
Problem is politics is a popularity contest not a money contest -  and although money is strongly in the background - NO AMOUNT OF MONEY will get the truly detestable Bloomberg elected.

One debate with Trump where Trump zings him for telling people what they can eat and drink in NYC and middle America will be reminded of who Bloomberg is.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 09, 2019, 12:37:04 PM
Maybe so. But, Bloomberg’s personal wealth vastly exceeds that of Donald Trump ($53B verses $3B). I seem to remember Trump's base stating he was a good presidential candidate because of his successful business experience exampled by his vast wealth. Following this line of illogical thinking, wouldn't that make Bloomberg a 180% better choice?

No.

It would make Bloomberg a creepy, weird, gay, losing candidate who made his fortune through insider trading.

And you would remain a whiny, sniveling liar who cheated on his wife with unknown gay men.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 09, 2019, 01:12:13 PM
No, that wasn't the only reason people voted for him. Your snide remarks are dumb and illogical.

Perhaps my remarks are snide, but yours are inaccurate. I did not say it was the only reason people voted for him. You made that up.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on November 09, 2019, 05:47:10 PM
Already seeing pics of Boozberg hanging out with Jeffrey Epsteins underage girls supplier. Is Boozberg really ready for the onslaught similar to what Trump has endured? What skeletons will crawl out of ol' Boozbergs closet? :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 09, 2019, 05:52:03 PM
Imagine the cool "grab her by the pussy" stories we'd hear about Boozberg? :D

You mean grabbing the crotch like this?

https://mobile.twitter.com/made__usa/status/931331120028778496
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 09, 2019, 06:36:40 PM
You mean grabbing the crotch like this?

HTTP://mobile.twitter.com/made__usa/status/931331120028778496

Absolutely shocking! Isn't it? Joy 'Bazaar' should have been locked up. Robin Williams looked totally miffed, didn't he? And Whoopie laughing about....well, she's a comedian. What can you expect?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: mazrim on November 09, 2019, 06:37:54 PM
Perhaps my remarks are snide, but yours are inaccurate. I did not say it was the only reason people voted for him. You made that up.
How would he be a 180% better choice than? It was your comparison.

You always try to squirm out of every thing you post that is an attempt at dumb mockery or simply bad information when you get called on it. Your dumb deviousness is pretty obvious and does not shine a good light on your character.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 09, 2019, 06:57:47 PM
How would he be a 180% better choice than? It was your comparison.

You always try to squirm out of every thing you post that is an attempt at dumb mockery or simply bad information when you get called on it. Your dumb deviousness is pretty obvious and does not shine a good light on your character.


Never trust a man who will allow another man to stick a cock up his ass.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 11, 2019, 06:37:28 AM
Absolutely shocking! Isn't it? Joy 'Bazaar' should have been locked up. Robin Williams looked totally miffed, didn't he? And Whoopie laughing about....well, she's a comedian. What can you expect?


Yeah, Whoopi's bit on Roman Polanski was hilarious.  ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on November 11, 2019, 07:11:20 AM
Re: Bloomberg

Is America ready for a Jewish President?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 11, 2019, 07:12:38 AM
Re: Bloomberg

Is America ready for a Jewish President?

Vs a Gay Muslim? 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 11, 2019, 10:50:04 AM

Yeah, Whoopi's bit on Roman Polanski was hilarious.  ::)

She must have thought it was. I bet she regrets having said, "it's not rape-rape...." Maybe she knows something most of the rest of us don't about this.

Samantha Geimer tells her side of story in Roman Polanski case

In March 1977, film director Roman Polanski was arrested and charged in Los Angeles with five offenses against Samantha Geimer, a 13-year-old girl – rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance to a minor. At his arraignment, Polanski pleaded not guilty to all charges but later accepted a plea bargain whose terms included dismissal of the five initial charges in exchange for a guilty plea to the lesser charge of engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse.

It was in March 1977 that the then Samantha Gailey climbed into Polanski’s rented Mercedes for what she and her mother thought would be a magazine photo shoot. Her mother, an actress, had met Polanski at a party.

“We thought, ‘Man, I’m gonna be famous now,’” Geimer said. “We’ll get me in Vogue Paris and then maybe I’ll get a good part. One step and you’re on your way. That’s what we thought it was, a chance, my big shot.”

Instead, Polanski drove her to his friend Jack Nicholson’s Hollywood Hills home, gave her Champagne and a piece of Quaalude and, after learning that she was not on birth control, anally raped her, according to court records.

Geimer, who worked with an uncredited co-author, describes how she emotionally departed the scene during the encounter, silently wishing for Polanski to stop talking. “He holds my arms at my sides and kisses me,” she writes. “And I say, ‘No, come on,’ but between the pill and the champagne it’s like my own voice is very far away.” Later that night, after Geimer’s sister overheard her talking to an ex-boyfriend about what had happened, Geimer’s mother called the police.


https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-xpm-2013-sep-16-la-et-jc-geimer-book-20130916-story.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on November 11, 2019, 10:56:46 AM
She must have thought it was. I bet she regrets having said, "it's not rape-rape...." Maybe she knows something most of the rest of us don't about this.


It's rape by definition, regardless of consent.

What the fuck, man?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 11, 2019, 11:21:38 AM
It's rape by definition, regardless of consent.

What the fuck, man?

Yes it was rape and he was initally charged with rape, but pleaded guilty to "engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor," ending the trial. He fled the country before sentencing.

 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 11, 2019, 03:48:53 PM
Deval Patrick reportedly weighing 2020 White House bid
By Victor Morton - The Washington Times - Monday, November 11, 2019

First Michael Bloomberg, now Deval Patrick.

According to reports Monday in the New York Times and Boston Globe, Mr. Patrick, a former Massachusetts governor, is considering a late entry into the Democratic presidential primary.

Mr. Patrick is “likely to announce he’s in this week,” the Globe reported, citing “a person familiar with his plans.”

A decision from Mr. Patrick would have to come this week as the deadline for a formal filing to get on the ballot in New Hampshire’s first-in-the-nation primary is Friday.

Citing “two Democrats with knowledge of the conversations,” the Times reported that Mr. Patrick has told party leaders that none of the declared candidates have established momentum with the Iowa caucuses just three months away.

He has sent feelers to prominent Democrats in the early-voting states alerting them of a possible run, the Times reported.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/11/deval-patrick-eyes-2020-white-house-bid-report/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 11, 2019, 04:41:15 PM
Prime it seems best that you stay out of those types of topics as you always end up on the wrong side. What Whoopi said was indefensible. It was a Jimmy The Greek type statement.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 11, 2019, 05:37:12 PM
She must have thought it was. I bet she regrets having said, "it's not rape-rape...." Maybe she knows something most of the rest of us don't about this.

Samantha Geimer tells her side of story in Roman Polanski case

In March 1977, film director Roman Polanski was arrested and charged in Los Angeles with five offenses against Samantha Geimer, a 13-year-old girl – rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance to a minor. At his arraignment, Polanski pleaded not guilty to all charges but later accepted a plea bargain whose terms included dismissal of the five initial charges in exchange for a guilty plea to the lesser charge of engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse.

It was in March 1977 that the then Samantha Gailey climbed into Polanski’s rented Mercedes for what she and her mother thought would be a magazine photo shoot. Her mother, an actress, had met Polanski at a party.

“We thought, ‘Man, I’m gonna be famous now,’” Geimer said. “We’ll get me in Vogue Paris and then maybe I’ll get a good part. One step and you’re on your way. That’s what we thought it was, a chance, my big shot.”

Instead, Polanski drove her to his friend Jack Nicholson’s Hollywood Hills home, gave her Champagne and a piece of Quaalude and, after learning that she was not on birth control, anally raped her, according to court records.

Geimer, who worked with an uncredited co-author, describes how she emotionally departed the scene during the encounter, silently wishing for Polanski to stop talking. “He holds my arms at my sides and kisses me,” she writes. “And I say, ‘No, come on,’ but between the pill and the champagne it’s like my own voice is very far away.” Later that night, after Geimer’s sister overheard her talking to an ex-boyfriend about what had happened, Geimer’s mother called the police.


https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-xpm-2013-sep-16-la-et-jc-geimer-book-20130916-story.html

And now you’re going to defend Roman Polanski and Whoopi Goldberg over the rape of a 13 year old girl....

In no society is that act defensible or funny.

Although I’m 100% certain you got your jollies posting the details of the rape and descriptive article
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on November 11, 2019, 05:51:18 PM
Deval Patrick reportedly weighing 2020 White House bid
By Victor Morton - The Washington Times - Monday, November 11, 2019

First Michael Bloomberg, now Deval Patrick.

According to reports Monday in the New York Times and Boston Globe, Mr. Patrick, a former Massachusetts governor, is considering a late entry into the Democratic presidential primary.

Mr. Patrick is “likely to announce he’s in this week,” the Globe reported, citing “a person familiar with his plans.”

A decision from Mr. Patrick would have to come this week as the deadline for a formal filing to get on the ballot in New Hampshire’s first-in-the-nation primary is Friday.

Citing “two Democrats with knowledge of the conversations,” the Times reported that Mr. Patrick has told party leaders that none of the declared candidates have established momentum with the Iowa caucuses just three months away.

He has sent feelers to prominent Democrats in the early-voting states alerting them of a possible run, the Times reported.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/11/deval-patrick-eyes-2020-white-house-bid-report/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork

Patrick works for Bain Capital, which was co-founded by Mitt Romney.  I wonder if Patrick manages the binders full of women?  ;D
At any rate, another Democratic candidate who doesn't object to making money must be a good thing.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on November 11, 2019, 06:33:13 PM
Deval Patrick reportedly weighing 2020 White House bid
By Victor Morton - The Washington Times - Monday, November 11, 2019

First Michael Bloomberg, now Deval Patrick.

According to reports Monday in the New York Times and Boston Globe, Mr. Patrick, a former Massachusetts governor, is considering a late entry into the Democratic presidential primary.

Mr. Patrick is “likely to announce he’s in this week,” the Globe reported, citing “a person familiar with his plans.”

A decision from Mr. Patrick would have to come this week as the deadline for a formal filing to get on the ballot in New Hampshire’s first-in-the-nation primary is Friday.

Citing “two Democrats with knowledge of the conversations,” the Times reported that Mr. Patrick has told party leaders that none of the declared candidates have established momentum with the Iowa caucuses just three months away.

He has sent feelers to prominent Democrats in the early-voting states alerting them of a possible run, the Times reported.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/11/deval-patrick-eyes-2020-white-house-bid-report/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork
First Boozberg, now Devil...even democrats realize their 20 choices suck!!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 11, 2019, 06:46:49 PM
Patrick works for Bain Capital, which was co-founded by Mitt Romney.  I wonder if Patrick manages the binders full of women?  ;D
At any rate, another Democratic candidate who doesn't object to making money must be a good thing.

First Boozberg, now Devil...even democrats realize their 20 choices suck!!


Truth.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on November 11, 2019, 07:44:37 PM
First Boozberg, now Devil...even democrats realize their 20 choices suck!!


Many in the party are beginning to sweat. Filing deadlines are quickly approaching and it's beginning to really sink in just how weak this field of candidates truly is.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 11, 2019, 07:52:52 PM
Many in the party are beginning to sweat. Filing deadlines are quickly approaching and it's beginning to really sink in just how weak this field of candidates truly is.

Huffington Post poll has Warren leading Trump by 86 points...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on November 11, 2019, 08:10:41 PM
Huffington Post poll has Warren leading Trump by 86 points...

She'll win at least 52 of at least 57 states. 

State of Confusion
State of Despair
State of Delusion
State of ...

 :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 11, 2019, 08:50:06 PM
She'll win at least 52 of at least 57 states. 

State of Confusion
State of Despair
State of Delusion
State of ...

 :D

The HuffPost presidential forecast model gives Democrat Hillary Clinton a 98.2 percent chance of winning the presidency. Republican Donald Trump has essentially no path to an Electoral College victory.

Huffington Post - 11/7/16
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Princess L on November 12, 2019, 08:00:18 AM
And now you’re going to defend Roman Polanski and Whoopi Goldberg over the rape of a 13 year old girl....

In no society is that act defensible or funny.

Although I’m 100% certain you got your jollies posting the details of the rape and descriptive article

https://nypost.com/2019/11/10/devine-liberals-enabled-powerful-sex-abusers/
Liberals enabled powerful sex abusers

Like a lot of wronged women, Monica Lewinsky now is reassessing her “affair” with Bill Clinton through the lens of the MeToo movement.

It was “an abuse of power … 100 percent,” she said Saturday night in a speech in Australia.

The former White House intern, who was just 22 when the president seduced her, said she had “clung so steadfastly to this notion that [it] was a real, consensual relationship, [but] as we started to have public conversations that were different about consent, as we started to recognize abuse of power in different ways, these structures started to crumble around powerful men who have been able to engage in [bad] behaviors and be lauded and celebrated.”

Lewinsky is right that some rich and powerful men now are being held accountable for past sexual wrongdoing that once was condoned by everyone in their privileged social stratum.

But, on the other hand, many of these men still don’t seem to comprehend that the music has stopped on the sexual free-for-all of previous decades, nor do many of their celebrity enablers and sycophants who turned a blind eye for decades.


A few days earlier, and half a world away from Lewinsky’s Sydney address, Harvey Weinstein was seen canoodling with a nubile actress in a Soho nightclub and reportedly being feted by fans as if he hadn’t a care in the world while awaiting trial in Manhattan Supreme Court on two rape charges.

Also last week, in France, a fourth woman emerged to accuse Oscar winner Roman Polanski of raping her at a Swiss ski resort in 1975, when she was just 18.

The allegation emerged as his latest movie, about the Dreyfus Affair, was showered with prizes at the European Film Awards.

Polanski has been a fugitive from US justice since he skipped bail after being charged over the drugging, rape and sodomy of a 13-year-old girl at Jack Nicholson’s Los Angeles house in 1977.

Despite pleading guilty to statutory rape before he fled, Polanski has been staunchly defended by Hollywood liberals, including Weinstein and Woody Allen, ironically enough, as well as Meryl Streep and Whoopi Goldberg.

“It’s a shocking way to treat a man who went through the Holocaust and his wife’s murder,” wrote Weinstein in 2009, at a time when he himself was riding high on the wings of impunity in the land of the casting couch.

In interviews for “An Officer and A Spy,” which opens in France this week, Polanski has been likening himself to his protagonist, Capt. Alfred Dreyfus, the French Jewish officer falsely accused of being a German spy two decades before World War I.

“I can see the same determination to deny the facts and condemn me for things I have not done,” Polanski had the gall to say.

Yes, it was a big week for MeToo denial. But it wouldn’t be complete without a mention of the late predator Jeffrey Epstein.

Sure enough, a TV news producer was sacked last week over suspicions (which she denies) that she leaked the hot-mic video of ABC News anchor Amy Robach complaining that the network spiked her Epstein scoop, which implicated Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew.

The thread that links all these libidinous men is the power of the progressive Hollywood establishment and the protection racket that fuels it.

As long as they paid homage to favored causes, abortion, LGBTQI rights, open borders, the Clinton Foundation and the Democratic Party, these men bought themselves protection from scrutiny and negative publicity.

Weinstein was so certain that this unspoken contract would hold when he first was accused of being a serial sexual predator that he whined about his virtuous acts as if they would expunge any heinous behavior.

Look at all the good things I’ve done, he wailed, pointing to his fraudulent feminist documentary “The Hunting Ground,” marching in an anti-Trump women’s protest, employing Barack Obama’s daughter Malia as an intern, and hosting a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton.

Epstein, too, supported obligatory progressive causes, including the Clinton Foundation and elite universities.

These men only managed to keep their offending in plain sight for so long because they were darlings of the liberal establishment.

After Weinstein was fired in disgrace in 2017 from the company he founded, Oscar winner Streep issued a disingenuous statement, saying she had no idea that her friend had allegedly spent almost three decades forcing himself on young actresses and paying off at least eight accusers.

If the stories were true, said Streep, she didn’t think the media “would have neglected for decades to write about it.”

But of course, every day we see evidence that elements of the media were complicit in the liberal protection racket.

They will go after Brett Kavanaugh with every forensic tool at their disposal over flaky allegations that fall apart at first glance. They persecuted the Covington Catholic High School boys with manic vigor, trying to prop up a false story of racism they wanted so much to be true that they ignored all evidence to the contrary.

They melt down at Donald Trump’s hypothetical “p—y grabbing” and scream about Twitter micro-aggressions from conservatives.

Yet they give a free pass to the atrocities of their ideological fellow travelers, turning a collective blind eye at best, or at worst, stifling and spiking stories.

Yes, the protection racket around powerful abusers is starting to crumble. But until celebrity enablers admit their role, justice will never be done.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 12, 2019, 10:48:50 AM
Poll: Buttigieg first in Iowa
Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren are close behind, with Bernie Sanders in fourth place.
By QUINT FORGEY
11/12/2019
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/12/pete-buttigieg-first-iowa-poll-069853
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 12, 2019, 11:48:34 AM
Deval Patrick reportedly weighing 2020 White House bid
By Victor Morton - The Washington Times - Monday, November 11, 2019

First Michael Bloomberg, now Deval Patrick.

According to reports Monday in the New York Times and Boston Globe, Mr. Patrick, a former Massachusetts governor, is considering a late entry into the Democratic presidential primary.

Mr. Patrick is “likely to announce he’s in this week,” the Globe reported, citing “a person familiar with his plans.”

A decision from Mr. Patrick would have to come this week as the deadline for a formal filing to get on the ballot in New Hampshire’s first-in-the-nation primary is Friday.

Citing “two Democrats with knowledge of the conversations,” the Times reported that Mr. Patrick has told party leaders that none of the declared candidates have established momentum with the Iowa caucuses just three months away.

He has sent feelers to prominent Democrats in the early-voting states alerting them of a possible run, the Times reported.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/11/deval-patrick-eyes-2020-white-house-bid-report/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork

I don't think he'll make it to the next  Democratic debate.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on November 12, 2019, 11:53:25 AM
It's rape by definition, regardless of consent.

What the fuck, man?

He just can't help it...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2019, 12:49:45 PM
Deval Patrick to enter 2020 Democratic presidential race

Former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick will be entering the 2020 presidential race, the New York Times reports.

Why it matters: The former governor will now be joining the crowded Democratic field less than three months out from the Iowa caucuses. The Times reports that Patrick is expected to launch his campaign with a video and an appearance in New Hampshire to file for the state's ballot.

The Atlantic reported earlier this week that Patrick may be planning to skip the Iowa caucus altogether and to focus his efforts on New Hampshire and South Carolina.
The backdrop: Patrick served as Massachusetts' governor from 2007 to 2015. He's previously served in the Clinton administration as the U.S. assistant attorney general for the Civil Rights Division. He is currently working at the private equity firm Bain Capital.

In 2018, Patrick said he would not run in light of his wife's cancer diagnosis. She has since been given a clean bill of health.
Of note: Patrick has already missed the filing deadlines in both Alabama and Arkansas.

https://www.axios.com/deval-patrick-2020-democrats-president-a34a60c6-8ebf-4016-a21b-437ebab14ccf.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 13, 2019, 12:52:42 PM
Deval Patrick positioning himself for future exposure, fundraising and outside shot at VP.

Mostly old white field and he has experience that says he's not as leftist as the other minority candidates.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2019, 09:15:31 PM
Deval Patrick positioning himself for future exposure, fundraising and outside shot at VP.

Mostly old white field and he has experience that says he's not as leftist as the other minority candidates.

I think he looked at this and said what most reasonable people say:  no way is one of these fit to be POTUS.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1194411377735225344/I4ycZJzp?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on November 13, 2019, 11:35:51 PM
I think he looked at this and said what most reasonable people say:  no way is one of these fit to be POTUS.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1194411377735225344/I4ycZJzp?format=jpg&name=medium)


 ::)  By Looks Alone They’re all Laughable
They look like Retired people who work the School Crossing For Children
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 14, 2019, 12:34:21 AM

 ::)  By Looks Alone They’re all Laughable
They look like Retired people who work the School Crossing For Children

Rising star, Peter Buttigieg is 37 years old....a little young to be retired and he isn't. However, just so you know, some 'crossing guards' are parents who volunteer to do this very important job. Some are school staff. It is the same as  being a Walmart greeter. :)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 14, 2019, 09:14:17 AM
Rising star, Peter Buttigieg is 37 years old....a little young to be retired and he isn't. However, just so you know, some 'crossing guards' are parents who volunteer to do this very important job. Some are school staff. It is the same as  being a Walmart greeter. :)

 ???
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: mazrim on November 14, 2019, 09:17:11 AM
He just can't help it...
Comments like that bring up his past remarks on here/lend credence to those accusations by his own doing.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 14, 2019, 01:07:08 PM
Warren taking this wealth tax stance. Pretty obvious they are doing everything in the background they can to make public Trump's tax rate. Lie-a-watha. Slinging Bull.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on November 14, 2019, 02:06:24 PM
Deval Patrick to enter 2020 Democratic presidential race

Former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick will be entering the 2020 presidential race, the New York Times reports.

Why it matters: The former governor will now be joining the crowded Democratic field less than three months out from the Iowa caucuses. The Times reports that Patrick is expected to launch his campaign with a video and an appearance in New Hampshire to file for the state's ballot.

The Atlantic reported earlier this week that Patrick may be planning to skip the Iowa caucus altogether and to focus his efforts on New Hampshire and South Carolina.
The backdrop: Patrick served as Massachusetts' governor from 2007 to 2015. He's previously served in the Clinton administration as the U.S. assistant attorney general for the Civil Rights Division. He is currently working at the private equity firm Bain Capital.

In 2018, Patrick said he would not run in light of his wife's cancer diagnosis. She has since been given a clean bill of health.
Of note: Patrick has already missed the filing deadlines in both Alabama and Arkansas.

https://www.axios.com/deval-patrick-2020-democrats-president-a34a60c6-8ebf-4016-a21b-437ebab14ccf.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

Aw, jeez, he sounds like Steve Urkel.  (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Steve_Urkel.jpg/220px-Steve_Urkel.jpg)



Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 14, 2019, 02:32:34 PM
???

Are you asking for an explanation? It seemed like an appropriate response to the comment about the candidates looking like retired (old) crossing guards.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 14, 2019, 03:56:36 PM
Are you asking for an explanation? It seemed like an appropriate response to the comment about the candidates looking like retired (old) crossing guards.

I'm wondering why you called Buttigieg a "rising star." 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 14, 2019, 06:50:33 PM
I'm wondering why you called Buttigieg a "rising star." 

Homos of a feather stick together
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on November 14, 2019, 07:51:26 PM
Rising star, Peter Buttigieg is 37 years old....a little young to be retired and he isn't. However, just so you know, some 'crossing guards' are parents who volunteer to do this very important job. Some are school staff. It is the same as  being a Walmart greeter. :)

They still look Laughable & incompetent
As For ButtPlug  ::)  it must be all that Arse Fucking & pole smoking
He Gets make him look so old & out of it.

As much as I Really Can’t Stand & Dislike Donkey Teeth Cortez
She got some life about her.

That Fucking Lot a bunch of Wax work Dummies have more life & Intelligence.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2019, 10:52:11 AM
Not a good start.

Deval Patrick Flubbed His Family Bio In Campaign Kickoff Video
The former Massachusetts governor’s announcement video suggests he was the first in his family to go to college, but his father apparently went before him.
By Daniel Marans and Richard Kim
11/14/2019
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/deval-patrick-father-college-flub-announcement-video-2020-democratic-presidential-primary_n_5dcdb86ce4b06a60957d292d
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 15, 2019, 11:52:51 AM
I'm wondering why you called Buttigieg a "rising star." 

Because he his standing in the polls continues to rise.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2019, 11:57:09 AM
Because he his standing in the polls continues to rise.

From that standpoint so is Elizabeth Warren.  But we both know neither one of them are "stars." 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 15, 2019, 12:05:59 PM
From that standpoint so is Elizabeth Warren.  But we both know neither one of them are "stars." 

By definition, they are. Who knows what the future holds? Either could become a falling star at any point.

Definition of rising star. : a person or thing that is growing quickly in popularity or importance in a particular field a rising star in politics.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 15, 2019, 12:48:14 PM
The leaders in the Dem primary are placeholders but a better candidate hasn't stepped up. I think that some higher profile people were waiting for Trump to be removed.

It's not going to happen so "run what ya brung" as they say in drag racing.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2019, 12:52:36 PM
By definition, they are. Who knows what the future holds? Either could become a falling star at any point.

Definition of rising star. : a person or thing that is growing quickly in popularity or importance in a particular field a rising star in politics.

Context is everything.  The only reason he is in the mix is the crop of Democrat candidates is arguably the worst in presidential history. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 15, 2019, 01:08:17 PM
Context is everything.  The only reason he is in the mix is the crop of Democrat candidates is arguably the worst in presidential history. 

You are entitled to your opinion.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2019, 05:07:42 PM
You are entitled to your opinion.

Obviously.  A lot of facts supporting my opinion. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 15, 2019, 07:10:29 PM
 ;D
Obviously.  A lot of facts supporting my opinion. 

 ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 15, 2019, 07:17:09 PM
Obviously.  A lot of facts supporting my opinion. 

Primepelosi is entitled to be wrong, and he certainly abuses that privilege with every post.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 15, 2019, 07:53:27 PM
Obviously.  A lot of facts supporting my opinion. 

A lot of facts, I am not so sure about that. A lot of people, specially on Getbig, and you're right on with that tally.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on November 17, 2019, 06:27:23 PM
Kamala Harris campaign aides complain of 'internal strife,' are 'deep into finger-pointing'

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Long gone are the days of California Sen. Kamala Harris polling alongside former Vice President Joe Biden, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders in the top tier of 2020 presidential candidates.

Her campaign recently laid off several dozen staff members as part of a reorganization effort to focus on the Iowa caucuses, and the campaign's struggles prompted several aides to anonymously complain about internal strife.


Over a dozen "current and former staffers as well as others close to the campaign" spoke to Politico for a story published Friday titled, "'No discipline. No plan. No strategy.': Kamala Harris campaign in meltdown."


At the center of the Politico story is a reported power struggle between campaign manager Juan Rodriguez and Maya Harris, the sister of Kamala.

Aides reportedly blame Rodriguez for his "questionable budget decisions" and "lack of clarity about what changes have been made to right the ship and his plans to turn the situation around."

At the same time, other aides allege that Rodriguez has been relegated to "deputy campaign manager" behind Maya Harris.

“From the outset of this race, he has had all the responsibility with none of the authority," a senior campaign official told Politico. "He’s been managing this race with at least one, if not two, hands tied behind his back."

The Harris campaign did not respond to an SFGate request for comment.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfgate.com/local-politics/amp/Kamala-Harris-campaign-aides-strife-dysfunction-14840141.php
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on November 17, 2019, 06:34:13 PM
Kenyan Woman Featured on Pete Buttigieg’s Website for Frederick Douglass Plan for Black America


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A Kenyan woman whose image appeared along with a child on Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg’s website for his plan for empowerment in black America has spoken out.

Ryan Grim, bureau chief for The Intercept, says the woman reached out to him after he wrote an article about issues with Buttigieg’s plan, which is called the Douglass Plan for Black America, after the abolitionist Frederick Douglass.

Grim tweeted that the public relations firm tasked with creating Buttigieg’s campaign material had simply taken a stock photo without checking the origin of the subject.

“On top of everything else, the Buttigieg campaign used a stock photo from Kenya to promote its Frederick Douglass Plan for Black America,” Grim wrote on Twitter, adding, “The woman in the photo reached out to me very confused.” Grim alleged in an article in the Intercept that Buttigieg is conflating the names of prominent black Americans who support his plan, but not his presidential bid.

A spokesman for the Buttigieg campaign emailed The Daily Beast on Sunday to say that the page on the candidate website has since been removed.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kenyan-woman-featured-in-pete-buttigieg-ad-for-frederick-douglass-plan-for-black-america
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 17, 2019, 07:48:07 PM
Has Al Franken joined the Democrat Party race yet?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on November 18, 2019, 03:49:09 AM
Has Al Franken joined the Democrat Party race yet?

He's in line just beyond the door.

(https://blog.linelogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/people-in-line.jpeg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on November 18, 2019, 01:16:11 PM
By definition, they are. Who knows what the future holds? Either could become a falling star at any point.

Definition of rising star. : a person or thing that is growing quickly in popularity or importance in a particular field a rising star in politics.

Pocahontas & ButtPlug 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 18, 2019, 01:33:28 PM
He's in line just beyond the door.

(https://blog.linelogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/people-in-line.jpeg)

Is that Anderson Cooper in a red wig?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 18, 2019, 06:32:05 PM
lol

Dem Voter: When I Hear Warren Talk, ‘I Want to Slap Her’
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Elizabeth Warren Getty Images
Andrew Kugle - NOVEMBER 18, 2019

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.) should keep her distance from Democratic voter Janice Williamson.

"When I hear her talk, I want to slap her, even if I agree with her," Williamson, a Massachusetts resident, told FiveThirtyEight.

Williamson was attending a campaign event for South Bend mayor Pete Buttigieg when FiveThirtyEight asked her about several 2020 Democratic candidates. She expressed interest in Buttigieg because she considers him electable.

Buttigieg has surged to first place in Iowa according to a new Des Moines Register/CNN poll. He leads the pack by 9 points while Warren, Biden, and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) are in a close battle for second. Despite his lead in Iowa, Buttigieg is in fourth place nationally, according to the RealClearPolitics polling average.

Despite Williamson's hostility, Warren currently leads in Massachusetts.

Williamson also said she liked former vice president Joe Biden but felt he was too old to be president.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/dem-voter-when-i-hear-warren-talk-i-want-to-slap-her/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 18, 2019, 06:38:42 PM
lol

Dem Voter: When I Hear Warren Talk, ‘I Want to Slap Her’
(https://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Elizabeth-Warren-3-736x513.jpg)
Elizabeth Warren Getty Images
Andrew Kugle - NOVEMBER 18, 2019

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.) should keep her distance from Democratic voter Janice Williamson.

"When I hear her talk, I want to slap her, even if I agree with her," Williamson, a Massachusetts resident, told FiveThirtyEight.

Williamson was attending a campaign event for South Bend mayor Pete Buttigieg when FiveThirtyEight asked her about several 2020 Democratic candidates. She expressed interest in Buttigieg because she considers him electable.

Buttigieg has surged to first place in Iowa according to a new Des Moines Register/CNN poll. He leads the pack by 9 points while Warren, Biden, and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) are in a close battle for second. Despite his lead in Iowa, Buttigieg is in fourth place nationally, according to the RealClearPolitics polling average.

Despite Williamson's hostility, Warren currently leads in Massachusetts.

Williamson also said she liked former vice president Joe Biden but felt he was too old to be president.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/dem-voter-when-i-hear-warren-talk-i-want-to-slap-her/

I don't feel like slapping people I don't like or like what they say. Having said that, Warren is not my candidate of choice. Something about her just rubs me wrong.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 18, 2019, 06:49:57 PM
I don't feel like slapping people I don't like or like what they say. Having said that, Warren is not my candidate of choice. Something about her just rubs me wrong.

Something??  Could it possibly be her repeated lies about being a Native American?  How she profited off her repeated lies? Her lack of authenticity? 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 18, 2019, 07:14:07 PM
Something??  Could it possibly be her repeated lies about being a Native American?  How she profited off her repeated lies? Her lack of authenticity? 

Maybe for you, not for me. I think what I don't like about her is that her speeches seem like lectures and as if she believes she is Superior to the rest of us poor slobs. She's not my mother.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 18, 2019, 07:29:36 PM
The new way to become a “rising star” in the Democrat Party is to call out the failings of the Oreo Messiah!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on November 20, 2019, 08:36:27 AM
Still continues to dominate among black voters.


‘Joe is an uncle to our state’: South Carolina polls show Biden with blowout lead


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Joe Biden is blowing away his Democratic rivals in South Carolina, according to three new polls that show he’s the only candidate with outsize support from African-American voters in the first-in-the-South primary.

While the former vice president has lost ground in surveys of overwhelmingly white Iowa and New Hampshire, Biden is pulling in about a third of the overall primary vote in South Carolina. His lead there is powered by a 44 percent backing from black voters, surveys from Quinnipiac University and the University of North Florida released Monday show.

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Another survey released Monday, from CBS News/YouGov, shows even stronger support from black voters in South Carolina. Biden receives more than half of his support from African-Americans and has 45 percent overall support.

His next-closest opponents in South Carolina are Sen. Elizabeth Warren, at 17 percent, and Sen. Bernie Sanders at 15 percent in the CBS poll.

In the Quinnipiac poll, Biden has 33 percent support and Warren and Sanders are at 13 and 11 percent, respectively. In the UNF survey, Biden registers 36 percent support, with Warren and Sanders tied at 10 percent.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/18/joe-biden-south-carolina-2020-071397
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 21, 2019, 10:17:18 AM
Deval Patrick would like to be president. Only two people showed up to his event at Morehouse.
By Katie Mettler
November 21, 2019
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/21/deval-patrick-would-like-be-president-only-two-people-showed-up-his-event-morehouse/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 21, 2019, 11:32:32 AM
Poll: Biden and Sanders tied nationally, followed by Warren
BY RACHEL FRAZIN - 11/21/19
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/471528-poll-biden-and-sanders-tied-nationally-followed-by-warren
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 21, 2019, 11:42:29 AM
Deval Patrick would like to be president. Only two people showed up to his event at Morehouse.
By Katie Mettler
November 21, 2019
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/21/deval-patrick-would-like-be-president-only-two-people-showed-up-his-event-morehouse/

That would be humiliating. I'd rethink my decision to run. I've been to neighborhood gatherings (a tea) for local candidates at someone's private residence where the attendance was not what was hoped, but never as few people as that. Who organized the failed event? 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 21, 2019, 01:29:27 PM
All that excitement for dem candidates and their policies out there. Impressive. Inspiring.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on November 21, 2019, 02:02:30 PM
That would be humiliating. I'd rethink my decision to run. I've been to neighborhood gatherings (a tea) for local candidates at someone's private residence where the attendance was not what was hoped, but never as few people as that. Who organized the failed event? 

Popeye's.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on November 23, 2019, 09:42:23 AM
Pocahontas lies (again).

Warren told pro-school-choice activist she sent her kids to public school, campaign says otherwise

On Thursday, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., told a school choice activist in Atlanta that she had sent both of her children to public school. On Friday, her campaign told a different story.

In a video that was originally uploaded on social media, Sarah Carpenter of the Powerful Parent Network challenged Warren's opposition to charter schools, at one point saying: "We are going to have the same choice that you had for your kids because I read that your children went to private schools."

"My children went to public schools," Warren told Carpenter.

However, a yearbook obtained by The Washington Free Beacon showed Warren's son Alex attended Kirby Hall School during the 1986-1987 school year. The online publication reported that the school currently charges nearly $15,000 per year for tuition, up from $4,700 in 1995, the earliest year for which records are available.



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/warren-told-pro-school-choice-activist-she-sent-her-children-to-public-school-her-campaign-confirms-otherwise
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on November 23, 2019, 10:20:15 AM
Shaprio showed some math that shows Warren being in deep shit.

Quote
Elizabeth Warren’s candidacy is in serious, serious trouble. Bernie just passed her in the national polling average, she’s lost all momentum in IA and NH, she’s dropped from 50% in the betting odds down to 26% in one month, and she’s got nothing left to throw at the wall.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 23, 2019, 10:29:33 AM
The MSM is still behind Biden. I caught a little of an  MSNBC show that had on the author of a Biden biography. According to this guy, Biden is the greatest man who ever lived.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 23, 2019, 12:01:18 PM
Shaprio showed some math that shows Warren being in deep shit.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ_qkv_U0AAvDwq?format=jpg&name=small)



Nobody has ever won an election talking about raising taxes. People know that raising one means raising all whether they can explain it or not doesn't matter it comes from the gut.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 23, 2019, 12:15:06 PM
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1197992624180867072


Biden threatens Lindsey Graham for daring to look into he and his son in an interview.


Rudy laying a pimp hand on Biden.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 23, 2019, 12:23:59 PM
Pocahontas lies (again).

Warren told pro-school-choice activist she sent her kids to public school, campaign says otherwise

On Thursday, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., told a school choice activist in Atlanta that she had sent both of her children to public school. On Friday, her campaign told a different story.

In a video that was originally uploaded on social media, Sarah Carpenter of the Powerful Parent Network challenged Warren's opposition to charter schools, at one point saying: "We are going to have the same choice that you had for your kids because I read that your children went to private schools."

"My children went to public schools," Warren told Carpenter.

However, a yearbook obtained by The Washington Free Beacon showed Warren's son Alex attended Kirby Hall School during the 1986-1987 school year. The online publication reported that the school currently charges nearly $15,000 per year for tuition, up from $4,700 in 1995, the earliest year for which records are available.



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/warren-told-pro-school-choice-activist-she-sent-her-children-to-public-school-her-campaign-confirms-otherwise

My kids went to private and public schools. My son attended Catholic school for five primary years then attended a public high school. My daughter was a student at the same Catholic elementary school until she started middle school. If someone asked me if my kids went to public school, I would say yes. If I was asked whether my kids attended private school, I would reply that they did. Both answers are true. Who is to say Elizabeth Warren's kids didn't go to both public and private schools?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 23, 2019, 12:29:17 PM
Who is to say Elizabeth Warren's kids didn't go to both public and private schools?



Uh....Elizabeth Warren said it.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on November 23, 2019, 12:34:31 PM
My kids went to private and public schools. My son attended Catholic school for five primary years then attended a public high school. My daughter was a student at the same Catholic elementary school until she started middle school. If someone asked me if my kids went to public school, I would say yes. If I was asked whether my kids attended private school, I would reply that they did. Both answers are true. Who is to say Elizabeth Warren's kids didn't go to both public and private schools?

Context counts.

So, given the context of this conversation, the answer was disingenous.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 23, 2019, 12:41:12 PM


Uh....Elizabeth Warren said it.

Right. She said, "My kids went to public school." This is correct. Her son also attended a private school for one term.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 23, 2019, 12:46:23 PM
Context counts.

So, given the context of this conversation, the answer was disingenous.


How so?
diingenrous: not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.

What do you think would have a more genuine answer in that context?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on November 23, 2019, 03:05:54 PM
How so?
diingenrous: not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.

What do you think would have a more genuine answer in that context?

I know what it means, and my statement is  entirely correct by the definition you posted.

I'm genuinely confused how you could ask "how so"?  You're either being intentionally obtuse, or didn't listen to the video.

The women said "I read your children went to private schools"

Warren replied "NO, my children went to public schools"

The "No" part means they didn't go to private school, not that they went to public in addition to private.

The correct/honest answer would have been "My children attended both public and private shcools".



Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 23, 2019, 03:09:57 PM
How do?  The woman asked if her kids attended private school.  She answered that her kids attended public school.

She should have said her kids attended both public and private school.

Okay, since her kids are grown and where they attended school is history, she could have said they attended both public and private schools. Although, isn't it just her son that went to private school from the 5th grade on? I've not seen where her daughter attended private school. Maybe her son had special needs which public school wasn't meeting.

She is not who I'd like to see get the nomination anyway, so she could of said she home schooled her kids and it wouldn't make any difference to me.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on November 23, 2019, 03:27:02 PM
The MSM is still behind Biden. I caught a little of an  MSNBC show that had on the author of a Biden biography. According to this guy, Biden is the greatest man who ever lived.


Joe Biden lashes out at protesters, telling one 'you listen to Bernie too much' and another to 'vote for Trump'


(https://image.businessinsider.com/5dd84159fd9db23d664f143a?width=1400&format=jpeg&auto=webp)

Former Vice President Joe Biden lost his patience with protesters at a campaign event in Greenwood, South Carolina, on Thursday.

One of the protesters, identified by The New York Times as the immigration rights activist Carlos Rojas, confronted Biden about the mass deportations that occurred under the Obama administration.

Biden was asked if he would commit to putting a moratorium on all deportations in his first day as president. The former vice president, who is at the top of national polls among 2020 Democratic hopefuls, replied: "No. I will not stop all deportations. I will prioritize deportations only of people who have committed a felony or a serious crime, No. 1."

As Rojas pressed Biden on immigration, and referenced related statistics from the Obama era, Biden lashed out at him and said: "You should vote for Trump."

Rojas replied: "No, no ... I'm not going to do that."

More than 3 million immigrants who were in the country illegally were deported under the Obama administration, according to Department of Homeland Security data.

Biden has repeatedly faced questions about Obama-era deportations along the campaign trail, including during a presidential debate in September.

At the time, Biden said he thought Obama had done the best he could at handling the issue. The former vice president has fiercely defended former President Barack Obama's record on immigration, particularly against any comparisons to the Trump administration's deportation policies and unabashed desire to deport undocumented immigrants.


https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-lashes-out-protesters-vote-for-trump-2019-11
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on November 23, 2019, 03:31:35 PM
Okay, since her kids are grown and where they attended school is history, she could have said they attended both public and private schools. Although, isn't it just her son that went to private school from the 5th grade on? I've not seen where her daughter attended private school. Maybe her son had special needs which public school wasn't meeting.

She is not who I'd like to see get the nomination anyway, so she could of said she home schooled her kids and it wouldn't make any difference to me.

Not sure on the daughter but it only takes one to make the "no" comment incorrect and a lie.  You can hear it in her voice.

I doubt she'll get the nomination.  I feel Warren and Sanders have zero chance.  Caveated a small bit if someone every young voter goes to polls for Sanders.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on November 23, 2019, 03:33:46 PM

Joe Biden lashes out at protesters, telling one 'you listen to Bernie too much' and another to 'vote for Trump'


(https://image.businessinsider.com/5dd84159fd9db23d664f143a?width=1400&format=jpeg&auto=webp)

Former Vice President Joe Biden lost his patience with protesters at a campaign event in Greenwood, South Carolina, on Thursday.

One of the protesters, identified by The New York Times as the immigration rights activist Carlos Rojas, confronted Biden about the mass deportations that occurred under the Obama administration.

Biden was asked if he would commit to putting a moratorium on all deportations in his first day as president. The former vice president, who is at the top of national polls among 2020 Democratic hopefuls, replied: "No. I will not stop all deportations. I will prioritize deportations only of people who have committed a felony or a serious crime, No. 1."

As Rojas pressed Biden on immigration, and referenced related statistics from the Obama era, Biden lashed out at him and said: "You should vote for Trump."

Rojas replied: "No, no ... I'm not going to do that."

More than 3 million immigrants who were in the country illegally were deported under the Obama administration, according to Department of Homeland Security data.

Biden has repeatedly faced questions about Obama-era deportations along the campaign trail, including during a presidential debate in September.

At the time, Biden said he thought Obama had done the best he could at handling the issue. The former vice president has fiercely defended former President Barack Obama's record on immigration, particularly against any comparisons to the Trump administration's deportation policies and unabashed desire to deport undocumented immigrants.


https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-lashes-out-protesters-vote-for-trump-2019-11



If Biden would simply say "we only deported those who entered that country illegally.  We were upholding the law.  If elected, I will push for reform".

Simple, no?  I think a comment like that would help with independents too.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 23, 2019, 03:41:35 PM
Not sure on the daughter but it only takes one to make the "no" comment incorrect and a lie.  You can hear it in her voice.

I doubt she'll get the nomination.  I feel Warren and Sanders have zero chance.  Caveated a small bit if someone every young voter goes to polls for Sanders.

Well, I don't have a fix on a clear front runner yet. Whoever ends up being Trump's challenger will get my vote. I've said this before, but i hope it is not another old fart. In my opinion, the supposed top three, Biden, Warren and Sanders are too old. Buttigieg is right behind them in the polls. I like that he's a fresh face with a younger outlook. I doubt people are ready for a man and his husband to move into the White House, however.  
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on November 23, 2019, 03:45:35 PM

If Biden would simply say "we only deported those who entered that country illegally.  We were upholding the law.  If elected, I will push for reform".

Simple, no?  I think a comment like that would help with independents too.

I think that is the preferred statement as well but for whatever reason that small but very vocal far left segment has alot of these candidates shook.

The truth is it was those more moderate Democratic candidates in '18 who were able to eek out those tight House races and give the gavel back to Pelosi.

It's just the whole Twitter paradigm that were are in the midst of. Seems to blow things way out of proportion.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 23, 2019, 04:40:55 PM
Well, I don't have a fix on a clear front runner yet. Whoever ends up being Trump's challenger will get my vote. I've said this before, but i hope it is not another old fart. In my opinion, the supposed top three, Biden, Warren and Sanders are too old. Buttigieg is right behind them in the polls. I like that he's a fresh face with a younger outlook. I doubt people are ready for a man and his husband to move into the White House, however.  



Mayor Pete...really. A guy that is 37 and is totally unqualified to be VICE President let alone President.

He's a politician and the biggest election of his life he got 8500 votes. Eight-thousand...five-hundred votes.

Being gay is the last of his problems. He's never done anything but run as a token and his town was poorly run to boot.

He needs to actually do something and try in a decade or two. We don't need another Obama empty suit.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TacoBell on November 23, 2019, 10:46:18 PM
Well, I don't have a fix on a clear front runner yet. Whoever ends up being Trump's challenger will get my vote. I've said this before, but i hope it is not another old fart. In my opinion, the supposed top three, Biden, Warren and Sanders are too old. Buttigieg is right behind them in the polls. I like that he's a fresh face with a younger outlook. I doubt people are ready for a man and his husband to move into the White House, however.  


Typical.... You think people give a shit that he's gay and that's why he won't become president....
How about... He's completely unqualified??
Literally his resume has virtually nothing to signal that he can run the Free world.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on November 24, 2019, 01:30:37 AM
Well, I don't have a fix on a clear front runner yet. Whoever ends up being Trump's challenger will get my vote. I've said this before, but i hope it is not another old fart. In my opinion, the supposed top three, Biden, Warren and Sanders are too old. Buttigieg is right behind them in the polls. I like that he's a fresh face with a younger outlook. I doubt people are ready for a man and his husband to move into the White House, however.  


Ha ha ha
ButtPlug is Right Behind Them 😱😱😱

I Bet They’ve got their arses clenched Very Tightly

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 24, 2019, 08:02:17 AM
Bloomberg makes it official. He's 77 and thoroughly despicable when he opens his mouth. He's a billionaire, can't wait to hear him apologize to Bernie and Warren about his success.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on November 24, 2019, 09:36:53 AM

If Biden would simply say "we only deported those who entered that country illegally.  We were upholding the law.  If elected, I will push for reform".

Simple, no?  I think a comment like that would help with independents too.
Seems more and more that Biden is losing his patience and popping off at the mouth.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 24, 2019, 10:27:11 AM


Mayor Pete...really. A guy that is 37 and is totally unqualified to be VICE President let alone President.

He's a politician and the biggest election of his life he got 8500 votes. Eight-thousand...five-hundred votes.

Being gay is the last of his problems. He's never done anything but run as a token and his town was poorly run to boot.

He needs to actually do something and try in a decade or two. We don't need another Obama empty suit.

-Can't have it both ways. Some folks complain about career politicians bringing more of the same. Other's like yourself actually want people with political experience.

Did you vote for Trump? He had zero political experience. There are those who think he still has no valid experience as a politician. Being a bully and obsessive tweeter doesn't count.

Obama was an empty suit? He was a U.S. senator from Illinois from 2005 to 2008 and an Illinois state senator from 1997 to 2004. That's 11 years of political experience prior to being twice elected President by popular and electoral vote,  serving from 2008 through 2016 without any assistance from Putin and Russia.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on November 24, 2019, 12:26:45 PM
 serving from 2008 through 2016 without any assistance from Putin and Russia.
Is that why he's on video telling Putin that he'll have more to work with after the election?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on November 24, 2019, 12:29:36 PM
Is that why he's on video telling Putin that he'll have more to work with after the election?

Prime has what a great many DemocRats do.  Selective Damnesisa.  It’s bites them in the butt every time.

Prime my young friend,  it’s called “writing”. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 24, 2019, 02:00:56 PM
Bloomberg makes it official. He's 77 and thoroughly despicable when he opens his mouth. He's a billionaire, can't wait to hear him apologize to Bernie and Warren about his success.

I think he is running because he’s afraid one of those two will win and take all of his money.😂
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on November 24, 2019, 02:21:28 PM
Bloomberg would be the first Jewish President.

I don't think the nation is ready for that.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2019, 02:26:51 PM
Bloomberg would be the first Jewish President.

I don't think the nation is ready for that.

We had a gay Muslim from Kenya.   Anything is possible.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 24, 2019, 05:21:38 PM
We had a gay Muslim from Kenya.   Anything is possible.

With a transvestite “wife”.

Since when does sucking dick and being mayor of South Bend make you ready to be the leader of the free world?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on November 24, 2019, 05:30:15 PM
With a transvestite “wife”.

Since when does sucking dick and being mayor of South Bend make you ready to be the leader of the free world?


woooosh

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 24, 2019, 05:41:13 PM
-Can't have it both ways. Some folks complain about career politicians bringing more of the same. Other's like yourself actually want people with political experience.

Did you vote for Trump? He had zero political experience. There are those who think he still has no valid experience as a politician. Being a bully and obsessive tweeter doesn't count.

Obama was an empty suit? He was a U.S. senator from Illinois from 2005 to 2008 and an Illinois state senator from 1997 to 2004. That's 11 years of political experience prior to being twice elected President by popular and electoral vote,  serving from 2008 through 2016 without any assistance from Putin and Russia.



True, but Trump has life experience. Mayor Pete is bragging on a debate stage that he has no money and no experience but plenty of feelings and woke-ness. I guess in the new era of opposition investigations from the time you are your party nominee a total dark horse with no past is best.

Obama was groomed in a softball district and voted on nothing to speak of purposely. The dems take on POTUS is that person is to carry out the party wishes not be their own person. They despise the executive branch centralization of power.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 24, 2019, 06:04:43 PM


True, but Trump has life experience. Mayor Pete is bragging on a debate stage that he has no money and no experience but plenty of feelings and woke-ness. I guess in the new era of opposition investigations from the time you are your party nominee a total dark horse with no past is best.

Obama was groomed in a softball district and voted on nothing to speak of purposely. The dems take on POTUS is that person is to carry out the party wishes not be their own person. They despise the executive branch centralization of power.

The Democrats should continue in the Obama tradition and nominate Elijah Cummings.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 25, 2019, 12:44:00 PM
-Can't have it both ways. Some folks complain about career politicians bringing more of the same. Other's like yourself actually want people with political experience.

Did you vote for Trump? He had zero political experience. There are those who think he still has no valid experience as a politician. Being a bully and obsessive tweeter doesn't count.

Obama was an empty suit? He was a U.S. senator from Illinois from 2005 to 2008 and an Illinois state senator from 1997 to 2004. That's 11 years of political experience prior to being twice elected President by popular and electoral vote,  serving from 2008 through 2016 without any assistance from Putin and Russia.

Obama was a part-time state senator and served as a U.S. Senator for less than two years before he ran for president.  He has the weakest resume of any POTUS in history IMO.  Before he announced he even admitted he wasn't qualified to be POTUS. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 25, 2019, 12:46:12 PM
Obama was a part-time state senator and served as a U.S. Senator for less than two years before he ran for president.  He has the weakest resume of any POTUS in history IMO.  Before he announced he even admitted he wasn't qualified to be POTUS. 

He banged white old dudes in a bath house, smoked crack, and spent years fighting release of records of his birth - if that counts at all. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 25, 2019, 01:24:14 PM
Obama was a part-time state senator and served as a U.S. Senator for less than two years before he ran for president.  He has the weakest resume of any POTUS in history IMO.  Before he announced he even admitted he wasn't qualified to be POTUS. 

Obama was a part-time Senator because like Oregon, Illinois has a hybrid part-time legislature. 26 states have hybrid part-time legislatures. He was a U.S. Senator from January 2005 until November 2008, when he was elected President. He was a U.S. Senator for 3 years and 10 months. If you are saying running for President consumed much of his time after announcing his bid for President in February 2007 campaigning, this is very likely true.

Regardless how little political experience Obama had when he was elected President, he had more experience than Trump, since Trump had 0 experience.

The 2020 Donald Trump presidential campaign is an ongoing re-election campaign by Donald Trump, who took office on January 20, 2017. Trump began his reelection campaign unusually early for an incumbent president. In other words he is using his time in office to run his campaign. This mean he has only been working part-time in his current position.


Legislatures in the Gray category are hybrids. Legislatures in these states typically say that they spend more than two-thirds of a full time job being legislators. Although their income from legislative work is greater than that in the Gold states, it's usually not enough to allow them to make a living without having other sources of income. Legislatures in the Gray category have intermediate sized staff. States in the middle of the population range tend to have Gray legislatures.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 25, 2019, 01:34:51 PM

Regardless how little political experience Obama had when he was elected President, he had more experience than Trump, since Trump had 0 experience.


Obama had more "political" experience but hardly any real world experience.  He never owned a business.  He never had to hire and fire employees.  He never created a single job.  He never worked as an executive or in managerial position in the private sector.  He knew essentially nothing about either running a business or how our economy works.

Go take another look at his background.  It's actually kind of frightening how little experience that man had. 

Trump, on the other hand, was one of the most successful businessmen in American history and had created tens of thousand of jobs before becoming POTUS.  Night and day difference. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 25, 2019, 03:12:35 PM
Michael Bloomberg launches Democratic presidential bid
By STEVE PEOPLES
https://apnews.com/583b5e7ecfc84b61b470b5e8e3c4bcab
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 25, 2019, 04:42:19 PM
Obama had more "political" experience but hardly any real world experience.  He never owned a business.  He never had to hire and fire employees.  He never created a single job.  He never worked as an executive or in managerial position in the private sector.  He knew essentially nothing about either running a business or how our economy works.

Go take another look at his background.  It's actually kind of frightening how little experience that man had. 

Trump, on the other hand, was one of the most successful businessmen in American history and had created tens of thousand of jobs before becoming POTUS.  Night and day difference. 

Business experience is valuable. However, I was under the impression we were discussing political experience. Are you changing the goal posts?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on November 25, 2019, 05:00:24 PM
Business experience is valuable. However, I was under the impression we were discussing political experience. Are you changing the goal posts?

I never said "political" experience.  You did.  I'm talking about experience that qualifies someone to be president.  You don't need "political" experience to be qualified for POTUS. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on November 25, 2019, 05:06:47 PM
In my several decades of experience, I have noticed that the main difference between the parties is this:

Democrats (liberals/socialists) are more concerned with the political differences between "left" (them) and "right" (Republicans).

Republicans on the other hand, are more concerned with the difference between right and wrong.   More often than not, we want that which is right.  Note that I say "more often than not" as all too often the Republicans have been infiltrated by RINOs.  Disgusting creatures which should be on the endangered feces list.

The proof of my words is in this "witch hunt" the DemocRats have been at for a few years now.  Fuck them and their noise.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on November 25, 2019, 07:42:44 PM
In my several decades of experience, I have noticed that the main difference between the parties is this:

Democrats (liberals/socialists) are more concerned with the political differences between "left" (them) and "right" (Republicans).

Republicans on the other hand, are more concerned with the difference between right and wrong.   More often than not, we want that which is right.  Note that I say "more often than not" as all too often the Republicans have been infiltrated by RINOs.  Disgusting creatures which should be on the endangered feces list.

The proof of my words is in this "witch hunt" the DemocRats have been at for a few years now.  Fuck them and their noise.

-Want what is right? Who decides this? Not everyone agrees about what is right. Just saying....your perspective seems a little biased. Is that right?

In the 60's some leftists demonstrated against the Vietnam war. Was this for political reasons? If someone truly believes there is a climate crisis and speaks out about it, is that politically based or belief based. 

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 26, 2019, 07:24:46 AM
The parties are not the same as they were. You now have the GOP okay with many progressive social issues, okay with bloated budgets and the dems are war hawks and socialists at the same time...weird.

The primary difference is that GOP is still(mostly) pro free market/state govt/local govt where the dems are statists. Oh and that pesky constitution, only one party believes in that old rag.

In the end as a voter you have to make the decision whether you think the federal govt can spend your tax money better than you or your local govt can/does.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 26, 2019, 09:01:50 AM
The parties are not the same as they were. You now have the GOP okay with many progressive social issues, okay with bloated budgets and the dems are war hawks and socialists at the same time...weird.

The primary difference is that GOP is still(mostly) pro free market/state govt/local govt where the dems are statists. Oh and that pesky constitution, only one party believes in that old rag.

In the end as a voter you have to make the decision whether you think the federal govt can spend your tax money better than you or your local govt can/does.


The problem for the Republicans is that the major issues that they have to tackle are political dynamite. Straightening out the healthcare system means winding down employer-based health care and replacing it with a free market model.

Regarding deficits, the biggest drivers of debt are the social programs, Social Security and Medicare. Reforming them is not going to be pretty either.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on November 26, 2019, 10:43:32 AM
Obama Reportedly Told a Dem Candidate that Joe Biden ‘Really Doesn’t Have’ Bond With Voters

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A new report on former President Barack Obama suggests the former president doesn’t have faith in Joe Biden’s chances to connect with voters in states, like Iowa, that made his 2008 campaign successful.

Politico’s Ryan Lizza reported on the 2020 Democratic candidates who met Obama at his office in D.C. this year, seeking his advice on how to win the White House. Lizza reported that as Obama provided advice to the candidates who met with him, it also gave him a chance to learn about them so he and his advisers can figure out who is the most likely person to defeat President Donald Trump.

Here are some of Obama’s biggest takeaways so far, per Lizza:

“Sometimes he offers candid advice about his visitors’ strengths and weaknesses. With several lesser-known candidates, according to people who have talked to him or been briefed on his meetings, he was blunt about the challenges of breaking out of a large field. His advice is not always heeded. He told Patrick earlier this year that it was likely “too late” for him to secure “money and talent” if he jumped in the race. Occasionally, he can be cutting. With one candidate, he pointed out that during his own 2008 campaign, he had an intimate bond with the electorate, especially in Iowa, that he no longer has. Then he added, “And you know who really doesn’t have it? Joe Biden.”

The piece also reported that while many Democratic hopefuls met with Obama over the last few months, Biden was not among them. The significance of this is debatable though since the article notes that “as a rule of thumb, the closer one is to Obama personally, the less important the West End summit is.” Joe Biden, one of only two candidates who Obama knows at a familial, rather than strictly professional level, was an ‘exception.'”

https://www.mediaite.com/print/obama-reportedly-told-a-dem-candidate-that-joe-biden-really-doesnt-have-bond-with-voters/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on November 26, 2019, 12:22:54 PM
Barry the Guru.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 26, 2019, 12:27:30 PM

The problem for the Republicans is that the major issues that they have to tackle are political dynamite. Straightening out the healthcare system means winding down employer-based health care and replacing it with a free market model.

Regarding deficits, the biggest drivers of debt are the social programs, Social Security and Medicare. Reforming them is not going to be pretty either.


It's interesting how quickly they came up with the 401k system when companies "couldn't" support pensions through the inflation of the 70s. It all has to do with whom it benefits.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on November 26, 2019, 03:08:55 PM
Obama privately said he would speak up to stop Sanders: report

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President Obama privately said he would speak up to stop Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) from becoming the Democratic presidential nominee, Politico reported Tuesday.

The former president reportedly said if Sanders held a strong lead in the Democratic primary, he would speak out to prevent him from becoming the nominee.  

A close adviser to Obama told Politico he could not confirm whether Obama would stand up against Sanders.

“He hasn’t said that directly to me,” the adviser said. “The only reason I'm hesitating at all is because, yeah, if Bernie were running away with it, I think maybe we would all have to say something. But I don't think that's likely. It's not happening.”

An Obama spokesperson, when asked about his previous comments on Sanders, referred to the president’s past comments that he would back whomever became the Democratic nominee.

“Look, we have a field of very accomplished, very serious and passionate and smart people who have a history of public service, and whoever emerges from the primary process I will work my tail off to make sure that they are the next president,” Obama said earlier this month, according to his spokesperson.
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Obama has stayed quiet throughout the campaign about which candidate he would support, but has offered to meet with any candidate in the primary and has given advice to those who meet with him, according to the news outlet.

A close adviser told Politico that “I can’t even imagine with this field how bad it would have to be for him to say something,” referring to Obama speaking out against a candidate.

But earlier this month, the former president warned the 2020 candidates of leaning too far left at a speaking engagement, saying “the average American doesn’t think we have to completely tear down the system and remake it.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/472090-obama-privately-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-sanders-report
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on November 26, 2019, 06:11:12 PM
Barry the Guru.

Barry Sotero’s presidential accomplishments:

1) .........

2) .........

3) .........
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 26, 2019, 07:42:57 PM
When Obama is a moderate you know your party has been radicalized. What is really amazing is that he sounds reasonable here compared to what we've been bombarded with from the new dem party.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 26, 2019, 10:05:00 PM
Here's Mayor Pete being defended by Fox for telling the truth, and a guy that profits from race losing the argument to Candace Owens:




Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on November 27, 2019, 04:50:23 AM
Bloomberg Takes Untested Path to 2020, Skipping Key Contests


Former New York mayor enters crowded Democratic field
 
Bloomberg plans focus on Super Tuesday, including California



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By Mark Niquette
November 24, 2019, 11:01 PM CST

Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s late entry into the presidential race highlights the deep philosophical divide animating the Democratic contest – putting his experience, his reputation and his fortune behind the argument that a pragmatic centrist pledging competent government is what’s needed to take down an unconventional president.

With no clear front-runner in the Democratic race so far, Bloomberg says he wants to fill this vacuum by offering primary voters a credible alternative – and a clear choice to go down a path of moderate views on taxes and health care, at a time there’s concern in the party that advocating policies deemed too far left will only ensure President Donald Trump’s re-election.

“I offer myself as a doer and a problem solver – not a talker,” Bloomberg said in announcing his candidacy, where he called Trump “an existential threat to our country and our values.”

Bloomberg also cited his efforts to rebuild New York after the Sept. 11 attacks and his efforts in favor of gun control and against climate change and tobacco use. "I believe my unique set of experiences in business, government and philanthropy will enable me to win and lead."

Bloomberg’s entry into the race comes on the heels of fears expressed by both former President Barack Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi that Democrats risk handing the election to Trump by proposing sweeping changes like Medicare for All. Bloomberg said in January the plan, which would effectively curtail private insurance, “would bankrupt us for a very long time.”

The question Bloomberg will face is whether a 77-year-old billionaire and former Republican is the right candidate to carry that message as the Democratic nominee. Bloomberg has added another layer of complications, saying he doesn’t plan to compete in the early nominating contests like Iowa and New Hampshire and will focus on delegate-rich California and other states voting on the March 3 Super Tuesday contests and beyond.

No one has ever won that way, Democratic strategists and experts say -- but also say that no one like Bloomberg has been able to spend what it takes to run a national campaign to amass the needed delegates.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-25/bloomberg-takes-untested-path-to-2020-skipping-key-contests
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on November 27, 2019, 05:16:22 AM
After Buttigieg's Past Comments on Race and Education Goes Viral, Mayor Phones Op-ed Author Who Called Him 'A Lying MF'

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South Bend, Indiana Mayor and Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg phoned columnist Michael Harriot this week to discuss an article he had written. In the op-ed, Harriot called Buttigieg a "lying MF" over remarks the candidate once made about minorities and education.

Harriot, a senior writer for The Root, took issue with the assertion Buttigieg made during his mayoral campaign in 2011 that many minority children have not seen the payoff from education.

"Kids need to see evidence that education is going to work for them," Buttigieg said. "You're motivated because you believe that at the end of your education, there is a reward; there's a stable life; there's a job. And there are a lot of kids—especially [in] the lower-income, minority neighborhoods, who literally just haven't seen it work. There isn't someone who they know personally who testifies to the value of education."

That statement caused Harriot to call Buttigieg a liar in his article, citing reports that majority-minority schools receive billions less in funding. Black students were also found to be more harshly disciplined.

"This is not just a lie of omission, it is a dangerous precedent. This is why institutional inequality persists," Harriot wrote. "Not because of white hoods and racial slurs. It is because this insidious double-talk erases the problem by camouflaging it. Because it is painted as a problem of black lethargy and not white apathy."

After Harriot's article went viral, Buttigeig called him on the phone saying, "I don't think I've ever been called a 'lying motherf***er before.'"

https://www.newsweek.com/after-buttigiegs-past-comments-race-education-goes-viral-mayor-phones-op-ed-author-who-called-1474281
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on November 29, 2019, 03:24:13 AM
Bloomberg showing up to the scene with oodles of money to pass around. Btw, Yang is within half a point of passing Kamala up in the RCP poll aggregate. She checked so many of the intersectional boxes...What the hell went wrong???

Michael Bloomberg swipes top staffer from Kamala Harris’ presidential campaign

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 Kelly Mehlenbacher Facebook

He’s got a seemingly unlimited supply of campaign cash and Michael Bloomberg is throwing it around — the multibillionaire just hired away one of his Democratic rivals’ top staffers.

Bloomberg hired Kelly Mehlenbacher, who had worked in operations for California Sen. Kamala Harris’ 2020 presidential campaign. She will be joining Team Bloomberg as its deputy chief operating officer, a Bloomberg spokesperson confirmed Thursday.

Mehlenbacher’s move comes following recent staff shakeups — including layoffs — at Harris’ sagging campaign as the only black woman in the race shifts her immediate focus to trying to win Iowa.

The political operative was among a group of staffers who recently quit Harris’ team following the latest series of layoffs there, according to Politico, which first reported the Bloomberg hire.

Mehlenbacher’s long resume also includes working as the treasury manager for Hillary Clinton’s failed 2016 presidential bid.

Although Bloomberg’s campaign wouldn’t address how much the ex-New York City mayor, who is worth an estimated $54 billion, will be paying Mehlenbacher, the deep-pocketed media mogul is already sparing no expense when it comes to his campaign.

Bloomberg is throwing another $9.5 million into television ads in major markets like Los Angeles and Houston less than a week after purchasing $30 million in spots to launch his 2020 bid.

https://nypost.com/2019/11/28/michael-bloomberg-swipes-top-staffer-from-kamala-harris-presidential-campaign/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 29, 2019, 06:16:29 AM
Harris is harsh and unlikable and Tulsi outed her as a cop/narc.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on November 30, 2019, 03:45:05 PM
 :P

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on November 30, 2019, 05:55:21 PM
:P



LOL


"yeah,who wants to live a short poor life when you could pay more taxes and live a long poor life.👌😂"
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on November 30, 2019, 08:41:42 PM

Michael Bloomberg swipes top staffer from Kamala Harris’ presidential campaign

(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/11/bloomberg-hire-91.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=1236&h=820&crop=1)
 Kelly Mehlenbacher Facebook

So this is the new DemocRats new "Mouth of Sauron"?  Fuck her and her femployer, Bloomberg.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 01, 2019, 02:59:12 PM
Joe Biden nibbled on his wife's finger in a bizarre campaign stop moment

(https://image.businessinsider.com/5de32a57fd9db2384f6f2792?width=1400&format=jpeg&auto=webp)


Former Vice President Joe Biden inexplicably leaned forward and chomped down on his wife's finger as she spoke during a campaign stop in Iowa on Saturday.

Jill Biden had been speaking to a crowd and using her hands to gesture, barely missing her husband's face at several points.

Eventually, while her arm was outstretched, Biden leaned forward and bit down on the tip of his wife's index finger.

In response, Jill Biden laughed it off.

The pair were in Council Bluffs speaking to a crowd of several hundred people, according to the Associated Press. The Biden are launching an eight-day bus tour of Iowa ahead of the February 3 caucuses.

https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-bites-wifes-finger-in-bizarre-campaign-stop-moment-2019-11
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 01, 2019, 03:28:10 PM
Joe Biden nibbled on his wife's finger in a bizarre campaign stop moment

(https://image.businessinsider.com/5de32a57fd9db2384f6f2792?width=1400&format=jpeg&auto=webp)


Former Vice President Joe Biden inexplicably leaned forward and chomped down on his wife's finger as she spoke during a campaign stop in Iowa on Saturday.

Jill Biden had been speaking to a crowd and using her hands to gesture, barely missing her husband's face at several points.

Eventually, while her arm was outstretched, Biden leaned forward and bit down on the tip of his wife's index finger.

In response, Jill Biden laughed it off.

The pair were in Council Bluffs speaking to a crowd of several hundred people, according to the Associated Press. The Biden are launching an eight-day bus tour of Iowa ahead of the February 3 caucuses.

https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-bites-wifes-finger-in-bizarre-campaign-stop-moment-2019-11

He may have been trimming her fingernails with his teeth.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on December 01, 2019, 05:50:57 PM
He may have been trimming her fingernails with his teeth.
Be honest....
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 01, 2019, 05:56:26 PM
Joe Biten
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on December 01, 2019, 06:00:06 PM
Joe Biten

I knew if I waited someone would say this!  Your wording/phraseology is improving and it is a pleasure to witness it.  Thank you!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 01, 2019, 06:15:27 PM
Is this a Howard Dean moment?


(https://media.tenor.com/images/24f162cff595df43c95529e60305259f/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 01, 2019, 06:43:09 PM
Be honest....

Honestly!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on December 02, 2019, 05:36:43 AM
Jill is a hot senior MILF.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 03, 2019, 04:26:36 AM
Biden Kicks Off 'No Malarkey' Tour By Lying About Meeting Kim Jong-un

(https://media.breitbart.com/media/2019/12/Joe-Biden-No-Malarkey-Tour-640x480.png)


Former Vice President Joe Biden kicked off his “No Malarkey” tour of Iowa over the weekend by lying about having “spent a lot of time” with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

Biden, who has been known to embellish portions of his personal and political life on the campaign trail, flubbed the nature of his relationship withthe North Korean strongman on Sunday at a town hall in Carroll, Iowa. The event, part of Biden’s highly publicized 18-county “No Malarkey” bus tour of Iowa, was supposed to showcase the former vice president’s candor and authenticity as he tries to mount a comeback in the first caucus state—much like John McCain’s ‘Straight Talk Express’ did in New Hampshire during the 2008 election.

As such, Biden opened up with the audience in Carroll about the draining toll of the presidency and the importance of Democrats nominating a candidate in 2020 who would not need on the job training.

The 77-year-old Biden told those assembled, “You’re going to have assume that position the moment they are sworn in, in January 2020, and know the rest of the world knows that person, in this case me, and that I know them,”

Biden went on to say Russian President:

    Putin has no illusions about whether I know him or not, Kim Jong Un has no person that I don’t know or not, the same with the president of China, Xi Jinping, I spent a lot of time with these folks. They know, they know.

Despite touting his readiness and familiarity with the foreign heads of state, Biden, in fact, had never met all those leaders he invoked in Iowa. Although the former vice president interacted with both Putin and Xi Jinping on numerous occasions throughout the Obama administration, his claims to have spent time with Kim Jong-un have no basis. A review of Biden’s public schedules from the Obama-era White House indicate no meeting between the two men ever took place.

Biden’s inaccurate comments about having “spent a lot of time” with the North Korean leader elicited rebuke from members of the Trump campaign on social media.

    Joe Biden is saying he spent a lot of time with Kim Jong Un despite never meeting him. What’s going on with Joe? pic.twitter.com/mwl7kgGLXf

    — Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) December 1, 2019

    Joe Biden claims has has "spent a lot of time" with Kim Jong Un.

    That is FALSE Biden and Kim Jong Un have never met. pic.twitter.com/evCJLqEdAz

    — Francis Brennan (@FrancisBrennan) December 1, 2019

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/12/02/joe-biden-kicks-off-no-malarkey-tour-lying-about-meeting-kim-jong-un/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 03, 2019, 12:27:30 PM
I know he's prone to gaffes but Biden has really lost a step. Some people get through their 70s just fine but this just looks bad.

Maybe he thinks he did meet Kim? Do any young dems actually care about him running?

It's like Tesla getting a barbershop quartet to do ads for them.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 03, 2019, 12:32:49 PM
Good job Tulsi.   :)  I think Tulsi did to Harris what Fat Man did to Marco Rubio during the 2016 GOP primaries. 

Kamala Harris drops out of presidential race
BY REID WILSON AND JONATHAN EASLEY - 12/03/19
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/472820-kamala-harris-drops-out-of-presidential-race-reports
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on December 03, 2019, 12:41:24 PM
Good job Tulsi.   :)  I think Tulsi did to Harris what Fat Man did to Marco Rubio during the 2016 GOP primaries. 

Kamala Harris drops out of presidential race
BY REID WILSON AND JONATHAN EASLEY - 12/03/19
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/472820-kamala-harris-drops-out-of-presidential-race-reports

That's big...Getbig big.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on December 03, 2019, 12:42:46 PM
Biden Kicks Off 'No Malarkey' Tour By Lying About Meeting Kim Jong-un

(https://media.breitbart.com/media/2019/12/Joe-Biden-No-Malarkey-Tour-640x480.png)


Former Vice President Joe Biden kicked off his “No Malarkey” tour of Iowa over the weekend by lying about having “spent a lot of time” with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

Biden, who has been known to embellish portions of his personal and political life on the campaign trail, flubbed the nature of his relationship withthe North Korean strongman on Sunday at a town hall in Carroll, Iowa. The event, part of Biden’s highly publicized 18-county “No Malarkey” bus tour of Iowa, was supposed to showcase the former vice president’s candor and authenticity as he tries to mount a comeback in the first caucus state—much like John McCain’s ‘Straight Talk Express’ did in New Hampshire during the 2008 election.

As such, Biden opened up with the audience in Carroll about the draining toll of the presidency and the importance of Democrats nominating a candidate in 2020 who would not need on the job training.

The 77-year-old Biden told those assembled, “You’re going to have assume that position the moment they are sworn in, in January 2020, and know the rest of the world knows that person, in this case me, and that I know them,”

Biden went on to say Russian President:

    Putin has no illusions about whether I know him or not, Kim Jong Un has no person that I don’t know or not, the same with the president of China, Xi Jinping, I spent a lot of time with these folks. They know, they know.

Despite touting his readiness and familiarity with the foreign heads of state, Biden, in fact, had never met all those leaders he invoked in Iowa. Although the former vice president interacted with both Putin and Xi Jinping on numerous occasions throughout the Obama administration, his claims to have spent time with Kim Jong-un have no basis. A review of Biden’s public schedules from the Obama-era White House indicate no meeting between the two men ever took place.

Biden’s inaccurate comments about having “spent a lot of time” with the North Korean leader elicited rebuke from members of the Trump campaign on social media.

    Joe Biden is saying he spent a lot of time with Kim Jong Un despite never meeting him. What’s going on with Joe? pic.twitter.com/mwl7kgGLXf

    — Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) December 1, 2019

    Joe Biden claims has has "spent a lot of time" with Kim Jong Un.

    That is FALSE Biden and Kim Jong Un have never met. pic.twitter.com/evCJLqEdAz

    — Francis Brennan (@FrancisBrennan) December 1, 2019

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/12/02/joe-biden-kicks-off-no-malarkey-tour-lying-about-meeting-kim-jong-un/

No Shouts from The Liberal Leftists on here about his Huge Lies  ::)  ::)
I know He’s a DummyCrap & That’s Ok Then.

He’s Tripping.
Whatever you Taking joe - Stop.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 03, 2019, 12:52:00 PM
Watch: Hillary Clinton Says She’s ‘Deluged’ with Requests to Run Again
Breitbart ^ | 12/03/2019 | Simon Kent
Posted on 12/3/2019, 1:26:28 PM by

Hillary Clinton says she is “deluged” with requests to try another run for president and has still not completely ruled out joining the crowded field of 2020 Democrat candidates.

The former U.S. Secretary of State has repeatedly avoided categorically stepping out of the race for the White House – or directly into it, for that matter.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...

________________________ ________________________

Fat Hillary is running nowhere
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 03, 2019, 01:15:27 PM
Watch: Hillary Clinton Says She’s ‘Deluged’ with Requests to Run Again
Breitbart ^ | 12/03/2019 | Simon Kent
Posted on 12/3/2019, 1:26:28 PM by

Hillary Clinton says she is “deluged” with requests to try another run for president and has still not completely ruled out joining the crowded field of 2020 Democrat candidates.

The former U.S. Secretary of State has repeatedly avoided categorically stepping out of the race for the White House – or directly into it, for that matter.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...

________________________ ________________________

Fat Hillary is running nowhere


Fake news.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on December 03, 2019, 01:23:05 PM
More late entries from the Dem-tards to come.

Hillary to join race.

Oz has spoken.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 03, 2019, 02:06:47 PM
More late entries from the Dem-tards to come.

Hillary to join race.

Oz has spoken.

At this point, I could see Hillary jump in only if Biden has a health issue that forces him to drop out. Given his current decrepit state, it’s a pretty good possibility.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on December 03, 2019, 02:22:05 PM
LOL!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1201588758061207555
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 03, 2019, 05:13:30 PM
A moment of silence for the Kamala Harris presidential campaign.

The Democrat candidate pool just got a whole lot older and whiter.

President Donald Trump is going to wipe the floor with the Democrat nominee

It will be a thing of beauty!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 03, 2019, 05:16:03 PM
A moment of silence for the Kamala Harris presidential campaign.

The Democrat candidate pool just got a whole lot older and whiter.

President Donald Trump is going to wipe the floor with the Democrat nominee

It will be a thing of beauty!

Joe Biden is likely going to be the nominee.  He is a dumber and much less accomplished version of Bob Dole and John McCain.  President Trump is going to crucify him. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 03, 2019, 05:20:54 PM
Joe Biden is likely going to be the nominee.  He is a dumber and much less accomplished version of Bob Dole and John McCain.  President Trump is going to crucify him. 

John McCain was a traitorous lying sack of shit.

I hope he’s rotting in hell watching President Donald Trump succeed for the next 5 years.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 06, 2019, 05:30:36 AM
Andrew Yang celebrates new campaign office with whipped cream 'shots' for supporters

(https://cdn1-www.mandatory.com/assets/uploads/2019/12/Screen-Shot-2019-12-05-at-12.33.15-PM.png)

(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/authoring/video-thumbnails/93b0de84-fa47-47b1-bd3f-f9dcb7b07a18_poster.jpg)


Just when you thought politics couldn’t get weirder, Democratic candidate Andrew Yang starts blowing loads of whipped cream straight from the can into the mouths of his supporters.

And that is not a metaphor (or is it?). As President Trump nears the verdict of impeachment proceedings, Democrats scramble to find the right candidate to face him in the still-likely chance he’ll run for the 2020 election.

So far we have 78-year-old Bernie on the basketball court and Joe Biden’s No Malarkey Tour from the 1700s. But what better candidate is there than the one degrading their own supporters on their knees, willing taking a squirting from their fearless leader (sounds like something Trump himself would do)?

Meanwhile, Michael Bloomberg and other wealthy liberals line up to take over the Democratic party, who will likely take the high road and just throw millions of dollars out of a blimp. It seems Yang’s new slogan is going from #Math to “Take One For the Team.” He didn’t stop with one either…

https://www.mandatory.com/fun/1536792-andrew-yang-goes-rogue-on-the-campaign-trail-starts-giving-whipped-cream-facials-to-supporters
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 06, 2019, 08:03:34 AM
Yang stealing Bootyjudge's thunder.  ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 06, 2019, 12:23:07 PM
https://freebeacon.com/politics/new-bernie-sanders-hires-tweets-include-homophobic-slurs-references-to-jew-money/?fbclid=IwAR0mX0xZns4f8IGvKWpfp-nq7molOJuQCWbXQ6a9pHEarsLPuH16uHK4wOQ


ha ha ha ha!!!!!   

What a damn clown show. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 06, 2019, 04:26:53 PM
https://freebeacon.com/politics/new-bernie-sanders-hires-tweets-include-homophobic-slurs-references-to-jew-money/?fbclid=IwAR0mX0xZns4f8IGvKWpfp-nq7molOJuQCWbXQ6a9pHEarsLPuH16uHK4wOQ


ha ha ha ha!!!!!   

What a damn clown show. 

 :o
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 06, 2019, 06:34:55 PM
266,000 NEW JOBS IN NOVEMBER

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IS STILL DIRTYDICKING DEMOCRATS ON A DAILY BASIS
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on December 07, 2019, 08:29:59 AM
Andrew Yang celebrates new campaign office with whipped cream 'shots' for supporters

(https://cdn1-www.mandatory.com/assets/uploads/2019/12/Screen-Shot-2019-12-05-at-12.33.15-PM.png)

(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/authoring/video-thumbnails/93b0de84-fa47-47b1-bd3f-f9dcb7b07a18_poster.jpg)


Just when you thought politics couldn’t get weirder, Democratic candidate Andrew Yang starts blowing loads of whipped cream straight from the can into the mouths of his supporters.

And that is not a metaphor (or is it?). As President Trump nears the verdict of impeachment proceedings, Democrats scramble to find the right candidate to face him in the still-likely chance he’ll run for the 2020 election.

So far we have 78-year-old Bernie on the basketball court and Joe Biden’s No Malarkey Tour from the 1700s. But what better candidate is there than the one degrading their own supporters on their knees, willing taking a squirting from their fearless leader (sounds like something Trump himself would do)?

Meanwhile, Michael Bloomberg and other wealthy liberals line up to take over the Democratic party, who will likely take the high road and just throw millions of dollars out of a blimp. It seems Yang’s new slogan is going from #Math to “Take One For the Team.” He didn’t stop with one either…

https://www.mandatory.com/fun/1536792-andrew-yang-goes-rogue-on-the-campaign-trail-starts-giving-whipped-cream-facials-to-supporters
Grown ass "men" got on their knees so that another grown ass man could shoot whipped cream into their mouths?
Really?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 07, 2019, 09:45:33 AM
John Kerry throws his support behind Biden


(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/ba3d1af/2147483647/resize/463x/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Ffc%2F0c%2F374c1abf4700ad77d6c5c0022987%2F19125-john-kerry-gty-773.jpg)



By ABBEY MARSHALL
12/05/2019 12:47 PM EST

Former Secretary of State John Kerry endorsed Joe Biden’s bid for president on Thursday, touting his longtime friend’s character, record in the Senate and ability to beat President Donald Trump in 2020.

“I believe Joe Biden is the President our country desperately needs right now, not because I’ve known Joe so long, but because I know Joe so well,” Kerry said in a written statement, adding he “doesn’t endorse lightly,” but is confident in Biden’s abilities after serving alongside him for 24 years on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

“I’ve never before seen the world more in need of someone who on day one can begin the incredibly hard work of putting back together the world Donald Trump has smashed apart,” he wrote. “Joe is uniquely the person running for president who can beat Donald Trump and get to work on day one at home and in the world with no time to waste."

Kerry will join Biden on campaign trail in Iowa on Friday, where the former vice president is currently in the midst of his week-long “No Malarkey” bus tour. Kerry also vowed to stump for Biden in the months ahead, including another stop on Sunday in New Hampshire.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/05/john-kerry-endorses-biden-076391
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 07, 2019, 09:59:16 AM
Grown ass "men" got on their knees so that another grown ass man could shoot whipped cream into their mouths?
Really?

Just some wild and crazy guys having a little fun!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2019, 01:00:42 PM
Just some wild and crazy guys having a little fun!

Andrew Yang has been seen as being too serious. This stunt should help disperse that image.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 07, 2019, 01:01:03 PM
Bernie Sanders Is the Most Popular Candidate Among College Students, While Donald Trump Is No. 2, Poll Says

American college students have chosen Bernie Sanders as their candidate of choice according to a new Axios/CollegeReaction.com poll, outpacing President Donald Trump, who sits in second place, by 5.2 percent.

Sanders captured 22.5 percent of the approval of those polled while incumbent Trump received 17.3 percent. Senator Elizabeth Warren came in third with 15.9 percent.
Trump Is 'Involved in a Big Cover-Up,' Watergate Congresswoman Says

Former Vice President Joe Biden, who led the poll with almost 19 percent in April, dropped to fourth place in the most recent poll with 12.3 percent. His ranking in this poll has hovered around 13 percent in each of these polls taken since April.

Entrepreneur Andrew Yang collected 9.3 percent to take fifth place while South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg came in sixth place with 8.2 percent.
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"Buttigieg was the only other candidate to gain more than one point in this poll since October," according to Axios.

Other candidates in the 2020 presidential race came in at under 3 percent in the poll including Senator Kamala Harris who dropped out of the running on Tuesday.

Newsweek reached out to the campaigns of both Sanders and Trump but did not receive a response in time for publication.

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-most-popular-candidate-among-college-students-while-donald-trump-no-2-poll-says-1475831
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on December 07, 2019, 01:13:19 PM
Andrew Yang has been seen as being too serious. This stunt should help disperse that image.
Squirting whip cream into another mans mouth while he's on his knees is seen as "fun" by democrats ???
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2019, 01:23:44 PM
Squirting whip cream into another mans mouth while he's on his knees is seen as "fun" by democrats ???

Have you seen Yang in the debates? At least he's not pissing on these folks on their knees.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 07, 2019, 04:08:05 PM
Synched with Scott Adams commentary

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 07, 2019, 04:11:16 PM
Have you seen Yang in the debates? At least he's not pissing on these folks on their knees.

Yeah but you still haven't answered the question about what you would do if you were put on the spot in that situation?

Do you get on your knees and take the cream to the mouth?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 07, 2019, 05:34:12 PM

Skip to comments.

Always Remember Joe Biden Misled Everyone About Wife's Death, Blamed Innocent Man for Years
westernjournal.com ^ | October, 2019 | C. Douglas Golden
Posted on 12/7/2019, 7:52:14 PM by UMCRevMom@aol.com

When Joe Biden brought out the story of his confrontation with a gang member named "Corn Pop" during his time as a lifeguard at a Wilmington, Delaware, pool, it's interesting how quickly Democrat leaders knew to come to his defense.

There was a gang member in Baltimore with the moniker Corn Pop, they pointed out! The local NAACP chairman backed up his story! There was an obituary for a notorious dude who had that nickname! See, Biden’s not lying!

There was a reason behind the decided quickness with which everyone rushed to Biden’s side: People don't trust his version of events on pretty much anything. Biden’s campaign-trail anecdotes and stories don't just have the tocsin of untruth about them. They're sometimes painfully fake.

The most obvious example of this is a fabricated story he told about a war hero that was, at best, a composite. At worst? The Washington Post may have described it best: "In the space of three minutes, Biden got the time period, the location, the heroic act, the type of medal, the military branch and the rank of the recipient wrong, as well as his own role in the ceremony."

Something like that is ultimately harmless, though. I know that may sound strange, but think about it: No one's reputation has been denigrated.

The same can't be said for the sad case of Curtis C. Dunn.

To be fair, Dunn was involved in what's easily the most traumatic event of Biden's life. In December of 1972, mere weeks after Biden was elected to the Senate for his first term in an upset victory, his first wife and daughter were killed in a car accident while Christmas shopping.

Dunn was the truck driver who hit them. According to the Newark (Delaware) Post, Neilia Biden drove the car into the path of Dunn's tractor-trailer for reasons unknown, perhaps having to do with her head being turned.

Dunn apparently did everything possible to avoid a collision, according to reports, even overturning his truck in the process. He was also the first person to render assistance at the scene.

This is where reality and Joe Biden diverge, however, and in a profoundly reprehensible manner.

To hear Biden tell it — at least for a very long time — Dunn's drinking had played a part in the accident.

"A tractor-trailer, a guy who allegedly — and I never pursued it — drank his lunch instead of eating his lunch, broadsided my family and killed my wife instantly and killed my daughter instantly and hospitalized my two sons," he said at a 2007 event in Iowa, according to Politico.

In 2001, meanwhile, Biden talked about how Dunn was "an errant driver who stopped to drink instead of drive and hit a tractor-trailer, hit my children and my wife and killed them."

This was a common story Biden would peddle during the early part of the millennium. The problem is that, from all evidence, it was TOTALLY UNTRUE. Dunn was not only cleared by law enforcement but some of his most vociferous defenders were those involved in the case.

"The rumor about alcohol being involved by either party, especially the truck driver [Dunn], is incorrect," former Delaware Superior Court Judge Jerome O. Herlihy, who oversaw the investigation as a prosecutor, said in 2008 as the story was again recirculating.

Herlihy was terser when talking about the accident to Politico: "She had a stop sign. The truck driver did not."

"In the end," he said, "I concurred in their decision that there was no fault on his part."

Keep in mind that most of this happened after Dunn's death in 1999, too. Pamela Hamill, one of his seven children, went public with her anger after the story began getting repeated ad nauseam around the time of Biden's nomination as Barack Obama’s vice-presidential candidate.

"I just burst into tears," Hamill said of hearing the clip of how her father "drank his lunch" before the accident.

"The story already is tragic enough, why did he have to sensationalize it by saying my father was drunk? My family is outraged."

To make things worse, she said that she had sent Joe Biden a message of support in the aftermath of 9/11 lauding his remarks. He responded with a note that said, in part, "All that I can say is I am sorry for all of us and please know that neither I or my sons feel any animosity whatsoever."

A 2010 profile of Biden in The Atlantic said that Biden — still technically the Democrat frontrunner — "has the limber storyteller's tendency to stretch."

That may be fine when you're talking about "Corn Pop" and composite stories about war heroes. When you're accusing someone of drunk driving in an accident where your wife and daughter were killed, that's awfully close to libel. He blamed an innocent man for years despite the fact that all of the evidence showed Dunn HADN'T done anything wrong.

"Suppose he becomes the next vice president," Hamill said in 2008. "Movies could be made about him and books could be written about him, all falsely portraying my father as a drunk driver. We need to set the record straight and clear my father's name right now before this goes any further."

She did, and that played a role in alerting us to how far this "limber storyteller" will go.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 07, 2019, 07:24:47 PM
Andrew Yang has been seen as being too serious. This stunt should help disperse that image.


There is a difference between making a joke and being the joke.

This borders on some sort of case study about how brainwashed his voters are.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 08, 2019, 06:23:09 AM
omments.

Warren Admits She Shouldn’t Have Claimed To Be Native American: ‘I Shouldn’t Have Done It,’
Twitter ^ | 12/06/19 | Alex Thoma
Posted on 12/8/2019, 7:15:36 AM by Enlightened1

Warren Admits She Shouldn’t Have Claimed To Be Native American: ‘I Shouldn’t Have Done It, I’m Not A Person Of Color’

 

Oh. Can you give back your Harvard job now?

 

https://twitter.com/AlxThomp/status/1203050517238296576?s=20

 

Warren gets a question in NH town hall from a voter asking what she shud tell relatives about the past claims of Native American ancestry. “I shouldn’t have done it. I am not a person of color, I am not a citizen of a tribe. And I have apologized for confusion I have caused”

 

 

(Excerpt) Read more at twitter.com ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on December 08, 2019, 07:59:33 AM
Have you seen Yang in the debates? At least he's not pissing on these folks on their knees.
Are you saying that based on his debates, you assumed he would be pissing on his supporters on their knees?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 08, 2019, 11:51:59 AM
Yeah but you still haven't answered the question about what you would do if you were put on the spot in that situation?

Do you get on your knees and take the cream to the mouth?

Nobody makes me get down on my knees...not even in church. Does that answer your question? Whipped cream  on strawberry shortcake at the table is fine though.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 08, 2019, 05:29:10 PM
Do you really think the Dems will risk having this guy get grilled by Republican Senators?




Joe Biden talks to Iowa Teamsters about stacking spaghetti sauce :)






Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on December 08, 2019, 05:44:24 PM
Andrew Yang has been seen as being too serious. This stunt should help disperse that image.

Really - You Think That was a Good Publicity Stunt ?
Probably the sort of Thing I’d Expect from ButtPlug & His BoyFriend.

🤮🤮🤮
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on December 08, 2019, 09:04:21 PM
These "candidates" all look to be as if they were from a bleak future as presented in the film, "Idiocracy".

A bunch of 'tards without even a shred of common sense. Their smart phones are brighter than they ever were or will be.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 09, 2019, 05:31:11 AM
Biden denies childhood stutter to blame for verbal stumbles
Washington Examiner ^ | 12/08/19 | Emily Larsen
Posted on 12/9/2019, 7:49:02 AM by Libloather

Joe Biden asserted that his childhood stutter is not the source of his much-publicized verbal stumbles on the campaign trail.

“I don't think of myself as continuing to stutter," Biden said in an Axios on HBO interview that aired Sunday. "But apparently people will say occasionally say [in fact when] I'm tired, I'll go, I'll say, um, uh, and I'll find myself searching for a second."

**SNIP**

During the July Democratic presidential primary debate, Biden had numerous stumbles. He told viewers to "go to Joe 3-0-3-3-0" when he likely meant to say to text the number to show support for his campaign; said that a "Medicare for all" single-payer healthcare plan "in 10 years will cost $3 trillion" when most estimates put the 10-year cost at around $32 trillion; and accidentally referred to New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker as the "future president."

“Look, the mistakes I make are mistakes. And some people think I still stutter. I don't think of myself that way,” Biden told Axios.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 09, 2019, 07:01:53 AM
Just look at those Wisconsin numbers  :o

Poll: Impeachment is helping Trump in 3 key battleground states

(https://images.axios.com/mFpssFFYWoD6cDbPp6piIXSKaTU=/2019/12/09/1575892081799.png)


Quarterly polling by the Republican firm Firehouse Strategies, with Optimus, had President Trump struggling in the mega-battlegrounds of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — but in the newest edition, he beats every Democrat.

The big picture: Trump won by an average of six percentage points in hypothetical match-ups against all current Democratic candidates, including Joe Biden, who was performing well in head-to-head contests against Trump in polling conducted earlier in the year.

    The poll found that a majority of likely 2020 voters surveyed do not support impeaching and removing Trump from office.

What they're saying: Firehouse partner Alex Conant tells Axios: "Democrats racing towards impeachment are at serious risk of leaving behind the voters they need to retake the White House next year."

Methodology: The survey was conducted Dec. 3 through Dec. 5 and interviewed 1,759 likely 2020 general election voters in Wisconsin (N = 610), Michigan (N = 551), and Pennsylvania (N = 598) via live landline, live cellphone and peer to peer text message to web and has a margin of error of +/- 4.1% in Wis., ± 4.3% in Mich., and ± 4.3% in Pa..


https://www.axios.com/trump-impeachment-poll-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin-6776a580-9a0f-4362-a8a7-e6180f18ed14.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 09, 2019, 07:27:13 AM
Warren campaign disclosed over the weekend that she made 2 million income "consulting" for big corporations.

Biden blamed his VP staff for not letting him know about his own son's dealings(that he flew on Air Force 2 with).

Also, Biden said he was glad to be in the wrong state again.  :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 09, 2019, 07:51:55 AM
Warren campaign disclosed over the weekend that she made 2 million income "consulting" for big corporations.

Biden blamed his VP staff for not letting him know about his own son's dealings(that he flew on Air Force 2 with).

Also, Biden said he was glad to be in the wrong state again.  :D


They need to lock that guy away in a padded cell until Iowa.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 09, 2019, 11:28:58 AM
Just look at those Wisconsin numbers  :o

Poll: Impeachment is helping Trump in 3 key battleground states

(https://images.axios.com/mFpssFFYWoD6cDbPp6piIXSKaTU=/2019/12/09/1575892081799.png)


Quarterly polling by the Republican firm Firehouse Strategies, with Optimus, had President Trump struggling in the mega-battlegrounds of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — but in the newest edition, he beats every Democrat.

The big picture: Trump won by an average of six percentage points in hypothetical match-ups against all current Democratic candidates, including Joe Biden, who was performing well in head-to-head contests against Trump in polling conducted earlier in the year.

    The poll found that a majority of likely 2020 voters surveyed do not support impeaching and removing Trump from office.

What they're saying: Firehouse partner Alex Conant tells Axios: "Democrats racing towards impeachment are at serious risk of leaving behind the voters they need to retake the White House next year."

Methodology: The survey was conducted Dec. 3 through Dec. 5 and interviewed 1,759 likely 2020 general election voters in Wisconsin (N = 610), Michigan (N = 551), and Pennsylvania (N = 598) via live landline, live cellphone and peer to peer text message to web and has a margin of error of +/- 4.1% in Wis., ± 4.3% in Mich., and ± 4.3% in Pa..


https://www.axios.com/trump-impeachment-poll-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin-6776a580-9a0f-4362-a8a7-e6180f18ed14.html

Not surprising. This shit is beyond tiresome and the only ones still interested are the frothing at the mouth TDS types..
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 10, 2019, 06:58:21 AM
Despite his crazy behavior, with that built in elderly and black support, you have to take this man serious when it comes to securing the Democrat nomination.

Joe Biden maintains a massive lead in a new South Carolina ranked-choice poll

Biden is still leading by double digits in the crucial early state, while other Democrats struggle to pick up African American support.

(https://external-preview.redd.it/7MV1EmTFKcVB0ImRZMKl6M-F9Q68adNmRveDyXAGhZA.jpg?auto=webp&s=99c84e869be28fe98feff70330150569b0c2d8c8)

Former Vice President Joe Biden’s lead in South Carolina doesn’t seem to be going anywhere.

According to an online poll sponsored by FairVote and conducted by YouGov, Biden comes in first in both a standard poll that asks voters to pick one presidential candidate, and a ranked-choice poll that’s designed to suss out who a majority of people ultimately prefer. Sen. Bernie Sanders, meanwhile, comes in second and trails him by double digits in both surveys.

At the end of last month, YouGov and FairVote, a nonpartisan electoral reform group, fielded two versions of the same poll, the results of which were provided exclusively to Vox. In the standard poll, when voters were asked to choose just one candidate they liked, Biden won with 41 percent of the vote and Sanders came in at 13 percent. Similarly, in the ranked-choice poll, when people were asked to rank up to 10 candidates from their most preferred to least, and these picks were tallied using the same method that’s applied in ranked-choice voting, Biden garnered 66 percent of the vote and Sanders received 34 percent.

When the votes are counted in a ranked-choice system, if no candidate has accrued more than 50 percent of the vote, the candidate who has the fewest first-choice votes is removed. Those votes then go to each voter’s next ranked choice. This process is repeated until one candidate secures a majority of the vote. So a person whose top choice was Rep. Tulsi Gabbard and second choice was Sanders, for example, could see their vote move to Sanders after Gabbard had been eliminated. (FairVote advocates in favor of a ranked-choice system.)

https://www.vox.com/2019/12/9/20993498/joe-biden-south-carolina-primary-african-american-voters-bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 10, 2019, 09:11:13 AM
Barring death, Biden is the Dem nominee.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 10, 2019, 09:12:20 AM
Truth.

Rob Smith: Racism or Sexism Didn’t Doom Kamala’s Campaign — Inauthenticity Did
ROB SMITH  9 Dec 2019

In the era of social media, authenticity is key, and poor Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) never really had what it takes to unlock the doors to the Democratic nomination for president.

The self-described “top-tier candidate” officially bowed out of the running last week, marking a stunning end to a campaign that many thought had a strong possibility of going all the way.

Now that she’s out, the “racism and sexism” claims from the left are out in full force. Former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julian Castro, somehow still grifting campaign donations for a run going nowhere, says Harris has been held to “a double standard has been grossly unfair and unfortunate.” The Independent called criticism from some on the left of her record as a prosecutor a “racist narrative that killed her campaign dead.”

This all misses the point. Kamala Harris’s biggest problem was that she never for one moment revealed who she truly is.

Anyone who watches the nonstop gaffes and tone-deaf overtures to “Real America” that come from everyone running for the presidency might reasonably believe that the act of seeking the highest office in the land is one daily humiliation after another. Yet Kamala’s ru seemed to have a certain air of desperation and falseness to it.

Whether she was awkwardly dancing with campaign volunteers or taking a bite out of a pork chop, it always seemed that somewhere inside, the real Kamala was behind lock-and-key, peeking out for safety. Her laugh was forced, her joy pained, and every move seemed like it was made after it was confirmed to be focus-group approved. In that way, she was quite similar to another female candidate in recent memory.
 
Whether you love or hate the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, you know exactly who he is and where he stands at all times, and if Democrats are serious about running someone who has a chance to oust him from the White House, they’d better choose someone with a firm sense of self.

Kamala just wasn’t that person. If Kamala had embraced the tough-on-crime, center-right Democrat that her entire political history showed that she was, she may have lasted much longer.

And, about those claims of racism and sexism? This is the problem with the way the left uses identity politics. It is wielded as both a means to stand out from the crowd, and an excuse to fall back on at the point of failure. Supporters of a woman who banked on her being the first Black female president shouldn’t lean on race and gender to explain her failure.
 
When people can find out who someone really is, race, gender, sexual orientation, or any of the other categories don’t really matter. Americans are smarter than that.

That’s one of the reasons why you’re reading the words of a gay black guy writing for a conservative website.

But, as usual, Democrats don’t give Americans enough credit. They think that if we don’t play by their rules of identity politics and elect a candidate solely due to their race or gender, we must be racist or sexist.

Kamala’s problem was not her race or gender. It was that both of those labels were used in the absence of personality, vision, and a strong sense of who she truly is. Any candidate running for President of the United States who doesn’t have those things is truly running a campaign to nowhere. And, in the marathon race to the presidency, that’s where Kamala Harris ended up.

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/12/09/rob-smith-racism-or-sexism-didnt-doom-kamalas-campaign-inauthenticity-did/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 10, 2019, 09:12:47 AM
Barring death, Biden is the Dem nominee.

Not exactly going out on a limb there.   :)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 10, 2019, 09:35:48 AM
Speaking of authenticity, Biden doesn't come across as "tough" when calling an Iowa voter fat, a liar, etc.  He comes across as a jerk.  He's trying too hard.  It's not going to work.

Biden Adviser Touts His Scornful Response To Iowa Voter
MARY MARGARET OLOHAN
SOCIAL ISSUES REPORTER
December 10, 2019
https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/10/symone-sanders-joe-biden-look-fat/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 10, 2019, 09:50:27 AM
Gabbard says she won't participate in next debate even if she qualifies


Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) said Monday that she won’t participate in the December debate even if she qualifies.

Gabbard tweeted Monday that she will instead meet with voters in New Hampshire and South Carolina.

“For a number of reasons, I have decided not to attend the December 19th ‘debate’ — regardless of whether or not there are qualifying polls,” she posted. “I instead choose to spend that precious time directly meeting with and hearing from the people of New Hampshire and South Carolina.”

The Hawaii representative previously threatened to boycott the October debate after alleging the Democratic National Committee and the media were “rigging” the presidential race. She decided against the boycott the week of the debate.

Gabbard did not make the cut for the September debate but has stood on stage for all four of the other debates. She has not yet qualified for the December debate, needing one more state or national poll with 4 percent or more support.

So far, former Vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D), Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) and billionaire philanthropist Tom Steyer have qualified for the Dec. 19 debate.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/473785-gabbard-says-she-wont-participate-in-next-debate-even-if-she-qualifies
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 10, 2019, 02:31:43 PM
Speaking of authenticity, Biden doesn't come across as "tough" when calling an Iowa voter fat, a liar, etc.  He comes across as a jerk.  He's trying too hard.  It's not going to work.

Biden Adviser Touts His Scornful Response To Iowa Voter
MARY MARGARET OLOHAN
SOCIAL ISSUES REPORTER
December 10, 2019
https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/10/symone-sanders-joe-biden-look-fat/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 10, 2019, 02:40:21 PM
Just how bad are these candidates?   lol

Democrats pick Hillary Clinton as 2020 front-runner in new party poll
By Brian Pascus  December 9, 2019

A new poll of registered Democrats has Hillary Clinton as their top choice for the 2020 Democratic Party presidential nomination — and she’s not even running.

The online Harris Poll survey released by the Center for American Political Studies at Harvard found that Clinton placed first with 21% of the vote, followed closely by former Vice President Joe Biden at 20%, Sen. Bernie Sanders at 12%, Sen. Elizabeth Warren at 9% and former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg at 7%.

It polled 1,859 voters and was conducted between Nov. 27 and 29 of this year.

Pollsters also surveyed respondents without Clinton in the race — and Biden came out first, with 29% of the vote, followed by Sanders at 16% and Warren at 13%.

Clinton has repeatedly said she is not running for president again, though she did tell the UK’s “Graham Norton Show” over the weekend that she’s been “deluged” with pleas to do just that.

“I’d have to make up my mind really quickly,” she said, “because it’s moving very fast.”

Clinton narrowly lost the 2016 presidential election to Donald Trump. Despite winning the popular vote with 65.8 million ballots to Trump’s 62.9 million, Clinton lost the Electoral College 304-227.

https://nypost.com/2019/12/09/democrats-pick-hillary-clinton-as-2020-frontrunner-in-new-party-poll/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 10, 2019, 03:19:07 PM
Just how bad are these candidates?   lol

Democrats pick Hillary Clinton as 2020 front-runner in new party poll
By Brian Pascus  December 9, 2019

A new poll of registered Democrats has Hillary Clinton as their top choice for the 2020 Democratic Party presidential nomination — and she’s not even running.

The online Harris Poll survey released by the Center for American Political Studies at Harvard found that Clinton placed first with 21% of the vote, followed closely by former Vice President Joe Biden at 20%, Sen. Bernie Sanders at 12%, Sen. Elizabeth Warren at 9% and former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg at 7%.

It polled 1,859 voters and was conducted between Nov. 27 and 29 of this year.

Pollsters also surveyed respondents without Clinton in the race — and Biden came out first, with 29% of the vote, followed by Sanders at 16% and Warren at 13%.

Clinton has repeatedly said she is not running for president again, though she did tell the UK’s “Graham Norton Show” over the weekend that she’s been “deluged” with pleas to do just that.

“I’d have to make up my mind really quickly,” she said, “because it’s moving very fast.”

Clinton narrowly lost the 2016 presidential election to Donald Trump. Despite winning the popular vote with 65.8 million ballots to Trump’s 62.9 million, Clinton lost the Electoral College 304-227.

https://nypost.com/2019/12/09/democrats-pick-hillary-clinton-as-2020-frontrunner-in-new-party-poll/

I doubt she'll throw her hat in the ring, if that's even possible at this point. I do understand how she could be a front runner in the polls though. If she was victorious in a "do over" of the 2016 election, it would be the ultimate revenge in the minds of those who still believe Trump stole the win.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 10, 2019, 05:41:11 PM
I doubt she'll throw her hat in the ring, if that's even possible at this point. I do understand how she could be a front runner in the polls though. If she was victorious in a "do over" of the 2016 election, it would be the ultimate revenge in the minds of those who still believe Trump stole the win.

No way, unless something happens to Biden.  The establishment candidate is comfortably ahead. No need to bring in the backup quarterback.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 10, 2019, 05:53:57 PM
No way, unless something happens to Biden.  The establishment candidate is comfortably ahead. No need to bring in the backup quarterback.

Did I say way? Revenge isn't a very good issue to run a campaign on, no matter how much the populous claims they'd back it. Until a front runner is declared (nominated) anything can happen.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 10, 2019, 07:18:07 PM
Dear Lord please, please, please, please have crooked Hillary Clinton run for President again
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on December 10, 2019, 07:36:07 PM
Dear Lord please, please, please, please have crooked Hillary Clinton run for President again

It will be déjà vu.

(https://az705044.vo.msecnd.net/20161101/hillary-clinton-straightjacket.png)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 10, 2019, 08:22:32 PM
It will be déjà vu.

(https://az705044.vo.msecnd.net/20161101/hillary-clinton-straightjacket.png)

President Donald Trump will raw dog that saggy old cottage cheese ass AGAIN !!!!

MAGA 2020 AND BEYOND !
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 10, 2019, 09:36:53 PM
Please, please...let her run. Trump should just ask her questions about the Russia Dossier/Epstein/Clinton Foundation/Anthony Weiner/Huma/Uranium One etc. for the entire debate.

Think about it...she's NOT going to run.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 10, 2019, 09:59:17 PM
Please, please...let her run. Trump should just ask her questions about the Russia Dossier/Epstein/Clinton Foundation/Anthony Weiner/Huma/Uranium One etc. for the entire debate.

Think about it...she's NOT going to run.

I wouldn't be so sure.  It's three years later and she hasn't shut up and gone away.  And Biden is an incredibly weak candidate.  There is a reason why Democrats have repeatedly rejected him when he previously ran for POTUS. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 11, 2019, 06:48:30 AM
So the President has noticed that Biden is clearly losing his mind.

Donald Trump Mocks Joe Biden for Repeatedly Forgetting Which State He’s In

President Donald Trump ridiculed former Vice President Joe Biden Tuesday for a series of campaign gaffes: repeatedly forgetting which state he was campaigning in.

“Hey, have you ever noticed where Biden keeps saying he’s in the wrong state?” Trump asked supporters at a campaign rally in Hershey, Pennsylvania.

Biden has been caught on tape twice referring to Ohio when he was Iowa, and when he was in New Hampshire, saying he was in Iowa or Vermont. And even mixing up Iowa and Vermont.

“What is wrong with this guy? What’s wrong with him?” Trump asked. “There’s something wrong … how many times can you do that?”


Trump reminded Pennsylvania voters that Biden vowed to shut down fossil fuel production, which would dramatically affect workers in Pennsylvania.

“The voters of this commonwealth will never ever let that happen,” Trump said, as the crowd cheered.

The president also mocked Biden for putting up his hand when debate moderators asked candidates if they would commit to allowing medical coverage for illegal immigrants.

“He just raises his hand, he has no clue what he’s doing. Remember [how] he looked?” Trump asked, noting that Biden was just following the rest of the crowd on the stage.

Biden told Axios on Sunday that he sometimes gets his words tangled up or finds himself searching for the right word when he is tired.

“I’ve always attributed that to being tired and not to the stutter,” he said. “I don’t think of myself as continuing to stutter.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/10/donald-trump-mocks-joe-biden-for-repeatedly-forgetting-which-state-hes-in/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 11, 2019, 06:53:59 AM
The main source running these "Hillary will run rumors" are, pro-Trump media outlets , like Fox news.
Obviously, the Trumpers hate Hildabeast and rightly assume her 2020 dem nomination would ignite the Trump base.

But, that's highly unlikely at this point.

Check the post right above this one.

There's your man, Joe Biden.

A guy who doesn't even know where the hell he's at half the time.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on December 11, 2019, 07:40:43 AM
Check the post right above this one.

There's your man, Joe Biden.

A guy who doesn't even know where the hell he's at half the time.


wooooooooooooshhhh

(https://i.postimg.cc/fT16kw4p/1.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on December 11, 2019, 08:08:20 AM
Hillary is chomping at the bit to run for POTUS.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/S0A0PBw8pZNFC/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 11, 2019, 09:09:19 AM
The main source running these "Hillary will run rumors" are, pro-Trump media outlets , like Fox news.
Obviously, the Trumpers hate Hildabeast and rightly assume her 2020 dem nomination would ignite the Trump base.

But, that's highly unlikely at this point.

False.  Why do you always lie on this board?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Princess L on December 11, 2019, 09:20:37 AM
Hillary is chomping at the bit to run for POTUS.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/S0A0PBw8pZNFC/giphy.gif)

^ What an insult to that beautiful creature (without a bit)  :(


(http://kccollegegameday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Horse-smiling-thumb-autox379-228571.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on December 11, 2019, 12:08:40 PM
Check the post right above this one.

There's your man, Joe Biden.

A guy who doesn't even know where the hell he's at half the time.

Ha ha ha
Yes he’s losing the plot & Yet They Keep supporting Him.
They Really are Living up to The Name DummyCrap’s
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 13, 2019, 01:36:10 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/megan-rapinoe-endorses-elizabeth-warren-trump-out-of-white-house-182720893.html


This should help a lot.  :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 13, 2019, 03:39:32 PM
It’s worth watching Biden campaign stops just to see him flub his lines and get lost. He was telling a story about his son in Iraq and how his wife handled it. He was supposed to say that she got up, had her coffee and then went to the bathroom to do her hair, but he got mixed up and had her going to the bathroom to drink her coffee.

There looked to be about 100-150 people in the place.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 14, 2019, 03:01:10 PM
It’s worth watching Biden campaign stops just to see him flub his lines and get lost. He was telling a story about his son in Iraq and how his wife handled it. He was supposed to say that she got up, had her coffee and then went to the bathroom to do her hair, but he got mixed up and had her going to the bathroom to drink her coffee.

There looked to be about 100-150 people in the place.

I am going to probably hold off to see what the polls look like until after New Years to really start actually believing in my heart of hearts that this poor old man who is losing his marbles will be the Democrat nominee but short of Bloomberg carpet bombing the air waves with several billions of dollars worth of ads and pulling off the miracle of miracles, I just don't coming anyone else in and taking the lead.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 14, 2019, 03:11:07 PM
I am going to probably hold off to see what the polls look like until after New Years to really start actually believing in my heart of hearts that this poor old man who is losing his marbles will be the Democrat nominee but short of Bloomberg carpet bombing the air waves with several billions of dollars worth of ads and pulling off the miracle of miracles, I just don't coming anyone else in and taking the lead.

At this point several candidates are jockeying for the nomination. Anything could happen by July 23rd. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 14, 2019, 03:17:40 PM
I am going to probably hold off to see what the polls look like until after New Years to really start actually believing in my heart of hearts that this poor old man who is losing his marbles will be the Democrat nominee but short of Bloomberg carpet bombing the air waves with several billions of dollars worth of ads and pulling off the miracle of miracles, I just don't coming anyone else in and taking the lead.

I read a number of liberal pundits talk about how the election in England should send a message to Democrats about bearing too far to the left. I take this is as them going all in on Biden.

If something happens to him healthwise and he is truly incapacitated, my guess is that Hillary would move in.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Griffith on December 15, 2019, 04:13:08 AM
I'm surprised people would still vote for the Democrats and their far-left policies.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 15, 2019, 05:55:06 AM
I'm surprised people would still vote for the Democrats and their far-left policies.



The far left in the United States is a classic example of a very vocal minority. Their big mouths make you think that there’s more of them.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on December 15, 2019, 08:15:17 AM
The far left in the United States is a classic example of a very vocal minority. Their big mouths make you think that there’s more of them.
True.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 16, 2019, 06:18:19 PM
Looks like ABC got its marching orders from the DNC to take out Bloomberg:



Bloomberg's sexist remarks fostered company culture that degraded women, lawsuits allege

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bloombergs-sexist-remarks-fostered-company-culture-degraded-women/story?id=67744180

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on December 16, 2019, 09:15:05 PM
1000% Biden is the next POTUS


PEDO for POTUS 2020!!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 16, 2019, 09:29:17 PM
Orders to take out Mayor Peter as well:

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/pete-buttigieg-napa-fundraiser-photos-231400332.html


"Photos have emerged of Pete Buttigieg’s lavish Sunday fundraiser at a winery in California’s Napa Valley, fueling criticism of the Democratic presidential hopeful’s ties to big-money donors and the access he gives them behind closed doors."



Probably an orgy, nothing to see here.  ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 17, 2019, 06:06:52 AM
Protestors chant 'Wall Street Pete!' as he exits a closed door fundraiser in NYC.

The leftist progressive wing of the party absolutely LOATHE this guy.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on December 17, 2019, 06:20:20 AM
Even a gay candidate can't satisfy the lefty commies.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 17, 2019, 06:25:57 AM
Even a gay candidate can't satisfy the lefty commies.

Yeah he actually had a private sector job once.

God forbid.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 17, 2019, 06:48:58 AM
Wall Street Pete, haha. The far left has no clue. They are making sure the dem party is fractured for years to come.

This is what happens when "moderates" let TV airtime, buzzwords and twitter posts change the party. I think old white dems truly fear these people and are just another casualty to appeasement. It doesn't work. You have to beat it back. What used to be a secret within the party is now out there for all to see and it's ugly. Trump flushed this out via TDS.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 17, 2019, 06:50:27 AM
Warren says Bloomberg 'has to answer' for alleged sexist remarks

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Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said Monday that former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg “has to answer” for alleged past sexist remarks.

Warren told reporters at a campaign event in Fort Madison, Iowa, that her fellow presidential candidate needs to address past allegations that he created a hostile work environment for women at his company, ABC News reported.


“When women raise concerns like this, we have to pay attention,” Warren said, according to ABC News. “We have to listen to them, and if Michael Bloomberg has made comments like this, then he has to answer for them.”

The Massachusetts progressive also called for the women who signed nondisclosure agreements with Bloomberg’s company to be released from the contracts so they could to talk about the past allegations.

“I think [nondisclosure agreements] are a way for people to hide bad things they've done. And I think that women should be able to speak,” Warren said.

Warren’s remarks come after ABC News reported that several lawsuits alleged that Bloomberg made sexist comments in the 1990s, making women uncomfortable in the workplace.

The presidential candidate has denied the accusations, saying Sunday that his company has an “enviable record” of gender equality.

"There will always be somebody that’s not happy, but we are -- we do very well in terms of attracting men and women to come to work in the company, and the retention rate with both of them is good as I think any real company," Bloomberg said, according to ABC News. "So, I’m very proud of what we do."

The Hill reached out to Bloomberg’s campaign and company for comment.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/474814-warren-says-bloomberg-has-to-answer-for-alleged-sexist-remarks
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2019, 09:59:25 AM
Protestors chant 'Wall Street Pete!' as he exits a closed door fundraiser in NYC.

The leftist progressive wing of the party absolutely LOATHE this guy.



Warren's smear campaign seems to be in full swing.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on December 17, 2019, 11:28:34 AM
Warren says Bloomberg 'has to answer' for alleged sexist remarks

(https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/warrenelizabeth_101719getty.jpg?itok=0HiFdAua)


Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said Monday that former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg “has to answer” for alleged past sexist remarks.

Warren told reporters at a campaign event in Fort Madison, Iowa, that her fellow presidential candidate needs to address past allegations that he created a hostile work environment for women at his company, ABC News reported.


“When women raise concerns like this, we have to pay attention,” Warren said, according to ABC News. “We have to listen to them, and if Michael Bloomberg has made comments like this, then he has to answer for them.”

The Massachusetts progressive also called for the women who signed nondisclosure agreements with Bloomberg’s company to be released from the contracts so they could to talk about the past allegations.

“I think [nondisclosure agreements] are a way for people to hide bad things they've done. And I think that women should be able to speak,” Warren said.

Warren’s remarks come after ABC News reported that several lawsuits alleged that Bloomberg made sexist comments in the 1990s, making women uncomfortable in the workplace.

The presidential candidate has denied the accusations, saying Sunday that his company has an “enviable record” of gender equality.

"There will always be somebody that’s not happy, but we are -- we do very well in terms of attracting men and women to come to work in the company, and the retention rate with both of them is good as I think any real company," Bloomberg said, according to ABC News. "So, I’m very proud of what we do."

The Hill reached out to Bloomberg’s campaign and company for comment.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/474814-warren-says-bloomberg-has-to-answer-for-alleged-sexist-remarks


Ok Pocahontas.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on December 17, 2019, 02:56:08 PM
Warren says Bloomberg 'has to answer' for alleged sexist remarks

(https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/warrenelizabeth_101719getty.jpg?itok=0HiFdAua)


Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said Monday that former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg “has to answer” for alleged past sexist remarks.

Warren told reporters at a campaign event in Fort Madison, Iowa, that her fellow presidential candidate needs to address past allegations that he created a hostile work environment for women at his company, ABC News reported.


“When women raise concerns like this, we have to pay attention,” Warren said, according to ABC News. “We have to listen to them, and if Michael Bloomberg has made comments like this, then he has to answer for them.”

The Massachusetts progressive also called for the women who signed nondisclosure agreements with Bloomberg’s company to be released from the contracts so they could to talk about the past allegations.

“I think [nondisclosure agreements] are a way for people to hide bad things they've done. And I think that women should be able to speak,” Warren said.

Warren’s remarks come after ABC News reported that several lawsuits alleged that Bloomberg made sexist comments in the 1990s, making women uncomfortable in the workplace.

The presidential candidate has denied the accusations, saying Sunday that his company has an “enviable record” of gender equality.

"There will always be somebody that’s not happy, but we are -- we do very well in terms of attracting men and women to come to work in the company, and the retention rate with both of them is good as I think any real company," Bloomberg said, according to ABC News. "So, I’m very proud of what we do."

The Hill reached out to Bloomberg’s campaign and company for comment.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/474814-warren-says-bloomberg-has-to-answer-for-alleged-sexist-remarks


And what about you Pocahontas & your Lies
Shouldn’t you also have to Answer for Hoodwinking & Lying Your way into jobs.

Fuck off back to the Indian reservation you came from - Ahhh Yes of Course you didn't come from...

🤣😂🤣
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on December 17, 2019, 03:02:07 PM
If Warren becomes President she will make all cigarettes duty free.

Parking will be free at casinos too.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2019, 04:44:44 PM
If Warren becomes President she will make all cigarettes duty free.

Parking will be free at casinos too.
;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on December 17, 2019, 09:55:49 PM
Warren's smear campaign seems to be in full swing.

Pete's a self loathing homosexual. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 18, 2019, 12:51:32 PM
Biden couldn't even pick one of these other people to run for VP if he is indeed the frontrunner.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Powerlift66 on December 18, 2019, 01:13:01 PM
"American Indian" what a dumb, lying, scamming kuntt...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on December 19, 2019, 03:45:11 AM
"American Indian" what a dumb, lying, scamming kuntt...

Speak plainly please.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 19, 2019, 07:43:48 AM
Interesting move. Not sure it goes anywhere but let's see if her anemic numbers shift at all.

Gabbard casts lone ‘present’ vote on impeachment

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Tulsi Gabbard, the Hawaii congresswoman seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, voted “present” Wednesday on both articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump, making her the only member of the chamber not to vote “yes” or “no.”

Her vote wasn’t a complete surprise: prior to the vote, Gabbard introduced a resolution calling for Trump’s censure, rather than impeachment.

Democratic leaders didn’t know how Gabbard would vote Wednesday or if she was even in Washington. But when the vote took place, Gabbard came into the chamber, interacted with just one or two lawmakers and then left immediately after voting — going out through a GOP door.

In a lengthy statement released by her presidential campaign, the Hawaii Democrat framed her votes as decisions that put country before party.

“One may not always agree with my decision, but everyone should know that I will always do what I believe to be right for the country that I love,” she said. “After doing my due diligence in reviewing the 658-page impeachment report, I came to the conclusion that I could not in good conscience vote either yes or no.”

Gabbard added that while she believes “Trump is guilty of wrongdoing,” she couldn’t vote “yes” because the process was partisan and “fueled by tribal animosities that have so gravely divided our country.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/18/impeachment-vote-gabbard-087616
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 19, 2019, 07:00:52 PM
 :-\

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2019, 09:17:45 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/20/cramer-democrats-at-the-debate-do-not-seem-to-care-about-your-401k.html


Now why the F would anyone with any sense whatsoever vote for these idiots? 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2019, 09:39:54 AM
I don't think any dems are trying to get your vote?

No - they are appealing to the broke bums and layabouts and do-nothings who want free stuff from others.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 20, 2019, 09:43:42 AM
No - they are appealing to the broke bums and layabouts and do-nothings who want free stuff from others.   

This is true. Whenever I look at some Libtards page on Twitter, it’s always some artist, blogger or some other loser deadbeat.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 20, 2019, 10:54:43 AM
I actually agree with that and can't deny it's a consistent part of the democratic message.
 However, the millitary industrail complex wastes 100x as much of our tax $$.
 Plus, the absurd tax loopholes  for big multi-national corporations and it's clear where the biggest give-aways go.

 For me, it's a simple matter of picking the party and policy that promotes :
worker rights ( unions), fair pay, retirement bennifts and health care.

Over the past 30 yrs, we've had retirement pensions gradually disapear as
corperations make record profits. Today, most companies only help provide access to a 401K plan that YOU pay into.
 Meanwhile the top executives retire rich making their $$ off the backs the workers.

Please know, I applaud anyone getting rich . I just think the workers need to get a fair deal in the process.
 

So shortsighted and naive.

You make it sound like savings accounts and investments are only available to Wall Street CEOs.

When you should be questioning work ethic, career choices, laziness, government handouts, and libidiots taking out $300,000 in student loans for a liberal arts degree.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2019, 11:00:16 AM
I actually agree with that and can't deny it's a consistent part of the democratic message.
 However, the millitary industrail complex wastes 100x as much of our tax $$.
 Plus, the absurd tax loopholes  for big multi-national corporations and it's clear where the biggest give-aways go.

 For me, it's a simple matter of picking the party and policy that promotes :
worker rights ( unions), fair pay, retirement bennifts and health care.

Over the past 30 yrs, we've had retirement pensions gradually disapear as
corperations make record profits. Today, most companies only help provide access to a 401K plan that YOU pay into.
 Meanwhile the top executives retire rich making their $$ off the backs the workers.

Please know, I applaud anyone getting rich . I just think the workers need to get a fair deal in the process.
 
 


So naive.  First off - no one gets defined pensions anymore since the economy is different.  People dont stay in jobs for 20-30 years any more.  Secondly, false the Military budget is not nearly the HHS budget and is one of the main roles of a govt.  Yes there is waste and it should be controlled as much as possilble same as any other govt agency. 

And most importantly - if a "worker" or anyone else for that matter feels they are underpaid while "the rich executive" gets rich - said person is free to seek employment elsewhere or . . . . wait for it - like many of us did - went into business for themselves.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2019, 11:08:06 AM
On THAT point we agree.
Please know, I don't agree with every detail on either side.
College loan forgivness for a 300k liberal arts degree is nuts!

BUT the republican health care and retirement pension plan is " You're on your own"

Ironic how neither party seems to base policy on the middle 80% of us.


You are on your own - stop looking for others to pick up the slack 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 20, 2019, 12:09:28 PM
On THAT point we agree.
Please know, I don't agree with every detail on either side.
College loan forgivness for a 300k liberal arts degree is nuts!

BUT the republican health care and retirement pension plan is " You're on your own"

Ironic how neither party seems to base policy on the middle 80% of us.


And the Democrat Healthcare plan is:

I work my ass off to pay the medical bills from Tijuana Juan and his seven illegal immigrant kids.

Bullshit to that and the ghetto blacks farming babies for a bigger government check.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 20, 2019, 12:48:53 PM
So shortsighted and naive.

You make it sound like savings accounts and investments are only available to Wall Street CEOs.

When you should be questioning work ethic, career choices, laziness, government handouts, and libidiots taking out $300,000 in student loans for a liberal arts degree.


-So shortsighted....as if some liberals were the only folks who have questionable work ethics, make poor career choices, are prone to laziness, qualify for government handouts, and take out student loans to pay for degrees they will probably never need. News flash, there are just as many conservative leaning folks making some these same choices.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 20, 2019, 01:35:14 PM
-So shortsighted....as if some liberals were the only folks who have questionable work ethics, make poor career choices, are prone to laziness, qualify for government handouts, and take out student loans to pay for degrees they will probably never need. News flash, there are just as many conservative leaning folks making some these same choices.

Fuck off and die.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2019, 01:38:34 PM
-So shortsighted....as if some liberals were the only folks who have questionable work ethics, make poor career choices, are prone to laziness, qualify for government handouts, and take out student loans to pay for degrees they will probably never need. News flash, there are just as many conservative leaning folks making some these same choices.

Democrats are playing to their lazy , layabout, drugged up, doper, obama-like - chooming - LGTBQRSWYZABC123 - base - thats why they have zero platform to run on. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 20, 2019, 01:41:08 PM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 20, 2019, 01:44:32 PM
Must be frustrating when you are outright buying votes with free stuff and can't even get the lazy dummies to the polls.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 20, 2019, 11:26:36 PM
Joe Biden: "We should unionize McDonald's"


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Joe Biden is the latest Democratic presidential candidate to target McDonald's in a bid to signal his concern for low-wage workers.

"We should unionize McDonald's," the former vice president told a gathering of McDonald's workers in Los Angeles on Thursday organized by Fight for $15, a union-backed group that pushes for a higher minimum wage. "I promise you, if I'm your next president, you'll never have had a better friend in the White House for working people and for unions than Joe Biden."

Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have all called on McDonald's to require its franchisees to do more to protect workers from harassment, while Cory Booker and former presidential contenders Kamala Harris and Beto O'Rourke this summer joined McDonald's workers rallying for higher pay in Las Vegas.

Describing McDonald’s as a “multibillion-dollar corporation” that exerts control over the work and rules at its restaurants, Biden described the demands for better pay and working conditions as “a fight for your dignity — it’s not just the numbers.”  

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-says-mcdonalds-workers-should-unionize/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 20, 2019, 11:44:34 PM
Democratic Debate Draws 6.17 Million Viewers; Lowest So Far Of 2020 Cycle

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Thursday’s Democratic presidential debate from Los Angeles drew an audience of 6.17 million viewers — lowest so far of the cycle, according to early numbers from Nielsen.

PBS NewsHour and Politico hosted the debate from Loyola Marymount University, and it also was simulcast by CNN.
According to Nielsen, the debate posted 2.062 million viewers on PBS and was seen on CNN by 4.088 million.

Even though the ratings did not match those of earlier in the cycle, CNN said that it beat its cable news rivals in the 8 PM to 11 PM block. CNN had an average of 3.97 million viewers in the period, to 3.64 for Fox News Channel and 1.83 million for MSNBC. In the 25-54 demo, CNN averaged 1.03 million to Fox News with 613,000 and MSNBC with 271,000.

According to data from PBS, livestreams from PBS NewsHour, Politico, PBS and CNN platform totaled more than 8.4 million.

The November presidential debate, seen on MSNBC, drew 6.5 million total viewers, according to Nielsen. Like Thursday’s debate, the November event came after a day in which impeachment proceedings dominated the news.

The most viewed Democratic debate so far was the first, in June, when 18.1 million tuned in to NBC, MSNBC and Telemundo.

https://deadline.com/2019/12/democratic-debate-ratings-1202815288/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 21, 2019, 01:12:30 AM
Joe Biden: "We should unionize McDonald's"


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Joe Biden is the latest Democratic presidential candidate to target McDonald's in a bid to signal his concern for low-wage workers.


Describing McDonald’s as a “multibillion-dollar corporation” that exerts control over the work and rules at its restaurants
, Biden described the demands for better pay and working conditions as “a fight for your dignity — it’s not just the numbers.”  



Fricking genius...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on December 21, 2019, 04:02:30 AM
Joe Biden: "We should unionize McDonald's"


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Joe Biden is the latest Democratic presidential candidate to target McDonald's in a bid to signal his concern for low-wage workers.


A $10 hamburger in every pot!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 21, 2019, 04:37:05 AM
Lmfao.   Keep talking joe.

Joe Biden: "We should unionize McDonald's"


(https://www.wcbi.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/2019-12-19t214505z-2129614329-rc2lyd91cetz-rtrmadp-3-usa-election-biden-1.jpg)


Joe Biden is the latest Democratic presidential candidate to target McDonald's in a bid to signal his concern for low-wage workers.

"We should unionize McDonald's," the former vice president told a gathering of McDonald's workers in Los Angeles on Thursday organized by Fight for $15, a union-backed group that pushes for a higher minimum wage. "I promise you, if I'm your next president, you'll never have had a better friend in the White House for working people and for unions than Joe Biden."

Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have all called on McDonald's to require its franchisees to do more to protect workers from harassment, while Cory Booker and former presidential contenders Kamala Harris and Beto O'Rourke this summer joined McDonald's workers rallying for higher pay in Las Vegas.

Describing McDonald’s as a “multibillion-dollar corporation” that exerts control over the work and rules at its restaurants, Biden described the demands for better pay and working conditions as “a fight for your dignity — it’s not just the numbers.”  

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-says-mcdonalds-workers-should-unionize/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 21, 2019, 08:37:53 AM

Fricking genius...

He’s just trumpeting the union party line. They’ve been trying hard to unionize the fast food industry because it isn’t so affected by foreign competition. Of course this will just speed up automation and lower the number of total jobs.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 21, 2019, 11:55:50 AM
Somewhere the people in the company that make the burger making robot are giving high fives all around.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 21, 2019, 02:27:53 PM
Somewhere the people in the company that make the burger making robot are giving high fives all around.

It’s beyond idiotic.

What company doesn’t exert control over the work and the rules within the company?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 24, 2019, 09:42:54 AM
Poor Joe.

Obama talks up Warren behind closed doors to wealthy donors
BY AMIE PARNES - 12/23/19
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/475576-obama-talks-up-warren-behind-closed-doors-to-wealthy-donors
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 24, 2019, 12:52:32 PM
With the economy booming, success with the military, keeping many of his promises, Russia hoax, the impeachment fiasco, and Biden coming across like a creepy, senile old man, I'm starting to think Trump v. Biden will be a blowout win for Trump.  But it's still early. 

[WATCH] Only 98 Turn Out for Biden Town Hall in Iowa; Protester Takes Microphone
 BY MATT MARGOLIS DECEMBER 22, 2019
https://pjmedia.com/election/watch-only-98-turn-out-for-biden-town-hall-in-iowa-protester-takes-microphone/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on December 24, 2019, 01:38:04 PM
I don't think any dems are trying to get your vote?
They should be. Instead they are pandering to a base that is already too stupid to realize they are being fucked.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 24, 2019, 04:57:56 PM
MIKE BLOOMBERG EXPLOITED PRISON LABOR TO MAKE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN PHONE CALLS
John Washington
December 24 2019
https://theintercept.com/2019/12/24/mike-bloomberg-2020-prison-labor/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 24, 2019, 06:30:51 PM
With the economy booming, success with the military, keeping many of his promises, Russia hoax, the impeachment fiasco, and Biden coming across like a creepy, senile old man, I'm starting to think Trump v. Biden will be a blowout win for Trump.  But it's still early. 

[WATCH] Only 98 Turn Out for Biden Town Hall in Iowa; Protester Takes Microphone
 BY MATT MARGOLIS DECEMBER 22, 2019
https://pjmedia.com/election/watch-only-98-turn-out-for-biden-town-hall-in-iowa-protester-takes-microphone/

I watched one of these. They’re so dead that Biden has to bring his own little cheering section to stand behind him and make some noise when there should be applause from the crowd. It’s a truly lifeless campaign.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 24, 2019, 06:33:42 PM
I watched one of these. They’re so dead that Biden has to bring his own little cheering section to stand behind him and make some noise when there should be applause from the crowd. It’s a truly lifeless campaign.



Compare that to the thousands the POTUS draws at any given rally.  Pretty remarkable. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 25, 2019, 07:01:13 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/michael-bloomberg-admits-presidential-campaign-214607393.html


"Billionaire Michael Bloomberg has admitted his presidential campaign made use of prison labour to make calls to potential voters on his behalf.

The former New York mayor, who is among those seeking the Democratic Party’s nomination to challenge for the presidency in 2020, said his campaign was unaware the calls being made by a company contracted by the 77-year, were being carried out by prison inmates."




Another confusing message by a member of the democrat party. So, it's okay for felons to vote but not to call about voting....why? Hmmmm.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 26, 2019, 07:41:08 AM
Skip to comments.

Bloomberg Used Prison Labor To Make Campaign Calls
Hotair ^ | 12/26/2019 | Jazz Shaw
Posted on 12/26/2019, 9:20:10 AM by SeekAndFind


In one of the more surprising – and puzzling – stories of the 2020 Democratic primary race, we learned this week that New York billionaire Michael Bloomberg has been busy creating jobs long before he gets the chance to do so as president. As a bonus, the jobs were exclusively for women, making his efforts even more relevant in the current political landscape. Unfortunately for him, the press figured out that the jobs he was creating were for female prisoners in an Oklahoma lockup. Oops. (The Intercept)

Former New York City mayor and multibillionaire Democratic presidential candidate Mike Bloomberg used prison labor to make campaign calls. Through a third-party vendor, the Mike Bloomberg 2020 campaign contracted New Jersey-based call center company ProCom, which runs calls centers in New Jersey and Oklahoma. Two of the call centers in Oklahoma are operated out of state prisons. In at least one of the two prisons, incarcerated people were contracted to make calls on behalf of the Bloomberg campaign.

According to a source, who asked for anonymity for fear of retribution, people incarcerated at the Dr. Eddie Warrior Correctional Center, a minimum-security women’s prison with a capacity of more than 900, were making calls to California on behalf of Bloomberg. The people were required to end their calls by disclosing that the calls were paid for by the Bloomberg campaign. They did not disclose, however, that they were calling from behind bars.

To be fair to Bloomberg, it’s completely believable that the candidate had no idea that this was going on. His campaign shopped out the job of making campaign calls to a contractor who then awarded part of the work to ProCom. That’s the company that arranged for the Oklahoma prisoners to make the actual calls. Once he was informed that this was going on, Bloomberg terminated the contract in an obvious damage control effort.

But was this really a “scandal” and something that required the termination of the contract? Activists are describing this as a case of Bloomberg “exploiting prison labor” as if he’s some sort of plantation master wielding a whip. But the fact is that prisoners regularly get the opportunity to have jobs while behind bars, allowing them to earn a small amount of money to spend in the commissary or prison store. And many of those jobs are nothing to write home about, frequently involving janitorial work, laundry or kitchen duties. While I, fortunately, have no direct experience in prison work environments, I would imagine that getting paid to sit at a desk and make phone calls for a few hours would likely be one of the more sought after job assignments.

There are certainly questions to be answered about how much the prisoners are being paid, but it’s also highly unlikely that Bloomberg knew those details. ProCom says that they paid the prison the state minimum wage of $7.25 per hour for each worker. But the Dr. Eddie Warrior Correctional Center appears to have only paid the women either $20 or $27.09 per month. Then again, prisoners don’t really have that many expenses on the inside. How well such workers should be compensated is a debate for another day, however.

The real question is whether or not the Bloomberg campaign really did anything wrong here and if there was a need to apologize. Given the factors I mentioned above, it certainly doesn’t sound like it to me. If ProCom wasn’t employing them to make phone calls they could just as easily have been scrubbing toilets to earn money for some extra snacks. If anyone is “exploiting” those women, it’s the prison system itself, not Bloomberg.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 26, 2019, 11:50:05 AM
Warren is so dishonest.  You cannot believe a word these people say. 

Elizabeth Warren
@ewarren
One year ago today, Felipe Gómez Alonzo died in CBP custody. He was just eight years old.

This Christmas, I'm heartsick for all of the families who won't be celebrating together today because of the Trump administration's cruel treatment of immigrants and asylum-seekers.
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The boy’s death, which sparked immense outrage from critics of the Trump administration, prompted an internal investigation. DHS’s Office of Inspector General (OIG) conducted a comprehensive review of the matter and published its report on Dec. 20.

“The investigation found no misconduct or malfeasance by DHS personnel,” the official statement from the DHS watchdog read.

Warren Suggests Trump Admin’s ‘Cruel Treatment’ Of Migrant Child Led To Death, Despite Investigation
JASON HOPKINS
IMMIGRATION AND POLITICS REPORTER
December 26, 2019
https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/26/warren-blames-trump-for-migrant-child-death/

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 26, 2019, 01:19:13 PM
They think this kind of stuff will energize the base. What it does is just get already deranged people even more deranged.

No offense, Straw😉
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 26, 2019, 04:48:55 PM
“The United States is evolving into fascism.”

—- Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Well there goes senile old Bernie Sanders’ lame campaign !
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 26, 2019, 05:22:40 PM
“The United States is evolving into fascism.”

—- Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Well there goes senile old Bernie Sanders’ lame campaign !

At least Bernie draws a crowd. By all rights he should be the Dem candidate but it looks like he’s gonna get the shaft just like in 2016.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 26, 2019, 05:26:03 PM
At least Bernie draws a crowd. By all rights he should be the Dem candidate but it looks like he’s gonna get the shaft just like in 2016.

You don't think he's kind of old for the job? I know, this is age discrimination and all that shit.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 26, 2019, 05:30:06 PM
At least Bernie draws a crowd. By all rights he should be the Dem candidate but it looks like he’s gonna get the shaft just like in 2016.

There are three things that don’t work in America:

(1) Socialism
(2) Fascism
(3) Black people

Bernie Sanders is a senile socialist fool, and the only difference between him and Joe Biden is that at least Bernie’s hair is real.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 26, 2019, 05:34:34 PM
They think this kind of stuff will energize the base. What it does is just get already deranged people even more deranged.

No offense, Straw😉


A very small minority of the dem voting block as well. Maybe not in Chicago or NY but most do not want a Cortez speaking for them. The only reason it works for Bernie is that he is old and the whole idea seems softer when he is delivering it. In the end it is still vote-buying in order to destroy the system that we operate under.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 26, 2019, 06:02:10 PM
There are three things that don’t work in America:

(1) Socialism
(2) Fascism
(3) Black people

Bernie Sanders is a senile socialist fool, and the only difference between him and Joe Biden is that at least Bernie’s hair is real.

That's pretty racist. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 26, 2019, 06:32:06 PM
Michael Bloomberg has spent $120 million on ads since jumping into 2020 race last month: report


Shira Tarlo
December 26, 2019 9:39PM (UTC)

Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has reportedly spent about $120 million on digital and television advertising since jumping into race for the Democratic presidential nomination late last month.

In the three weeks since he entered the content, Bloomberg has spent more than $120 million on television and digital advertising, according to Politico. The candidate has focused on Super Tuesday states like California and Texas instead of the early nominating states of Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina. He has also reportedly poured cash into Florida, which votes one week after Super Tuesday and has 219 delegates up for grabs.
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Bloomberg has reportedly outspent all of his competitors, including Tom Steyer, the other billionaire in the 15-member Democratic primary field. Steyer, for his part, has spent roughly $83 million on ads since throwing his hat in the ring in July, Politico reports. Unlike Bloomberg, Steyer has focused on targeting the four early-nominating states.

The next higher spender in the 2020 contest is South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, a non-billionaire. Buttigieg has reportedly spent $19 million.

Several 2020 Democrats have lamented Bloomberg's and Steyer's early access to campaign cash. Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., for one, took aim at Bloomberg's ad spending with a spot on Bloomberg TV, which the former mayor owns.

https://www.salon.com/2019/12/26/michael-bloomberg-has-spent-120-million-on-ads-since-jumping-into-2020-race-last-month-report/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 26, 2019, 06:42:33 PM
Michael Bloomberg has spent $120 million on ads since jumping into 2020 race last month: report


Shira Tarlo
December 26, 2019 9:39PM (UTC)

Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has reportedly spent about $120 million on digital and television advertising since jumping into race for the Democratic presidential nomination late last month.

In the three weeks since he entered the content, Bloomberg has spent more than $120 million on television and digital advertising, according to Politico. The candidate has focused on Super Tuesday states like California and Texas instead of the early nominating states of Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina. He has also reportedly poured cash into Florida, which votes one week after Super Tuesday and has 219 delegates up for grabs.
Advertisement:

Bloomberg has reportedly outspent all of his competitors, including Tom Steyer, the other billionaire in the 15-member Democratic primary field. Steyer, for his part, has spent roughly $83 million on ads since throwing his hat in the ring in July, Politico reports. Unlike Bloomberg, Steyer has focused on targeting the four early-nominating states.

The next higher spender in the 2020 contest is South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, a non-billionaire. Buttigieg has reportedly spent $19 million.

Several 2020 Democrats have lamented Bloomberg's and Steyer's early access to campaign cash. Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., for one, took aim at Bloomberg's ad spending with a spot on Bloomberg TV, which the former mayor owns.

https://www.salon.com/2019/12/26/michael-bloomberg-has-spent-120-million-on-ads-since-jumping-into-2020-race-last-month-report/


Is this tantamount to buying the Presidency?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 26, 2019, 07:21:01 PM
Michael Bloomberg has spent $120 million on ads since jumping into 2020 race last month: report


Shira Tarlo
December 26, 2019 9:39PM (UTC)

Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has reportedly spent about $120 million on digital and television advertising since jumping into race for the Democratic presidential nomination late last month.

In the three weeks since he entered the content, Bloomberg has spent more than $120 million on television and digital advertising, according to Politico. The candidate has focused on Super Tuesday states like California and Texas instead of the early nominating states of Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina. He has also reportedly poured cash into Florida, which votes one week after Super Tuesday and has 219 delegates up for grabs.
Advertisement:

Bloomberg has reportedly outspent all of his competitors, including Tom Steyer, the other billionaire in the 15-member Democratic primary field. Steyer, for his part, has spent roughly $83 million on ads since throwing his hat in the ring in July, Politico reports. Unlike Bloomberg, Steyer has focused on targeting the four early-nominating states.

The next higher spender in the 2020 contest is South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, a non-billionaire. Buttigieg has reportedly spent $19 million.

Several 2020 Democrats have lamented Bloomberg's and Steyer's early access to campaign cash. Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., for one, took aim at Bloomberg's ad spending with a spot on Bloomberg TV, which the former mayor owns.

https://www.salon.com/2019/12/26/michael-bloomberg-has-spent-120-million-on-ads-since-jumping-into-2020-race-last-month-report/


Mixed feelings about this.  On one hand, I don't like the influence money has in politics.  On the other hand, I don't fault someone for spending their own money. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 26, 2019, 08:12:36 PM
That's pretty racist. 

Statistics don’t lie.

In a time of historical prosperity for the black community, brought about by the Republican Party, they still chain themselves to the Democrat Party plantation politics
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 26, 2019, 09:12:14 PM
Statistics don’t lie.

In a time of historical prosperity for the black community, brought about by the Republican Party, they still chain themselves to the Democrat Party plantation politics

Statistics don't say that blacks (or any ethnic group) don't work. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 26, 2019, 09:45:08 PM
Statistics don't say that blacks (or any ethnic group) don't work. 

Another obtuse assmunch.

No, there are a few black folks who work. Somewhere, I suppose.

Yet even with record breaking low levels of unemployment, blacks still have double the unemployment rate of Whites. And the one common element during high or low periods of unemployment is that the Democrat Party continues to do nothing to help minorities.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 26, 2019, 10:31:08 PM
Another obtuse assmunch.

No, there are a few black folks who work. Somewhere, I suppose.

Yet even with record breaking low levels of unemployment, blacks still have double the unemployment rate of Whites. And the one common element during high or low periods of unemployment is that the Democrat Party continues to do nothing to help minorities.



The black unemployment rate is 5.5 percent.  The white unemployment rate is 3.2 percent.  In other words, about 94 percent of blacks are working and about 97 percent of whites are working.

Now, this is the point where you prove you are not a racist troll and just own up to a gross overstatement, I give you props for doing so, and then I leave you alone. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 26, 2019, 10:42:36 PM
The black unemployment rate is 5.5 percent.  The white unemployment rate is 3.2 percent.  In other words, about 94 percent of blacks are working and about 97 percent of whites are working.

Now, this is the point where you prove you are not a racist troll and just own up to a gross overstatement, I give you props for doing so, and then I leave you alone. 

Stick your “props” where your daddy used to ride you.

You just made my exact point. In an economy where black unemployment could basically be close to zero, twice as many of blacks as Whites still refuse to work. You still haven’t addressed the blacks still indentured to Democrat plantation politics.

It is almost without fail how often stupid people throw around the word racist. So feel free to apologize and I will give you props for go fuck yourself, idiot.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 26, 2019, 10:54:44 PM
Stick your “props” where your daddy used to ride you.

You just made my exact point. In an economy where black unemployment could basically be close to zero, twice as many of blacks as Whites still refuse to work. You still haven’t addressed the blacks still indentured to Democrat plantation politics.

It is almost without fail how often stupid people throw around the word racist. So feel free to apologize and I will give you props for go fuck yourself, idiot.

I see.  So you say all blacks are not working and claim statistics don't lie.  Then say the black unemployment rate is twice that of whites.  But then you are provided with the actual statistics that show (1) your statement that all blacks don't work is a lie and (2) the fact the white unemployment rate is lower than the black unemployment rate is meaningless, because both races are almost at full employment.  And you still cling to this crap.  I mean how friggin stupid are you??

I gave you a chance.  You didn't take it.  You just demonstrated that you are a racist troll.  And a dumb one at that. 

And you get no props for pointing out that blacks are indeed slaves to the Democrat party, because I've made that point myself on this board. 

In any event, you're just an idiot, like all racist folks are. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 26, 2019, 11:17:21 PM
I see.  So you say all blacks are not working and claim statistics don't lie.  Then say the black unemployment rate is twice that of whites.  But then you are provided with the actual statistics that show (1) your statement that all blacks don't work is a lie and (2) the fact the white unemployment rate is lower than the black unemployment rate is meaningless, because both races are almost at full employment.  And you still cling to this crap.  I mean how friggin stupid are you??

I gave you a chance.  You didn't take it.  You just demonstrated that you are a racist troll.  And a dumb one at that. 

And you get no props for pointing out that blacks are indeed slaves to the Democrat party, because I've made that point myself on this board. 

In any event, you're just an idiot, like all racist folks are. 

Still sticking with the obtuse angle of “absolutely” zero blacks work? What kind of an immature child follows that line of logic unless they’re pulling a Primeasshole stunt?  Is that part of you giving your almighty “props”?

LOL....how juvenile and moronic. Take your chance and stick it up your “hatred of White success” ass, racist.

I’ve already said there are some black folks who work, probably hard, and are decent people, I’d assume.

Yet in a record breaking economy you still want to play the White Knight and childishly defend blacks who refuse to work, are still unemployed at twice the rate as Whites, and are too lazy or afraid to leave the Democrat Party because they worship at the government gravy train.

Childish, all to try to prove you’re the racism hall monitor. Hahaha nice little temper tantrum, sophomoric knob.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 26, 2019, 11:21:57 PM
The black unemployment rate is 5.5 percent.  The white unemployment rate is 3.2 percent.  In other words, about 94 percent of blacks are working and about 97 percent of whites are working.

Now, this is the point where you prove you are not a racist troll and just own up to a gross overstatement, I give you props for doing so, and then I leave you alone. 

Like you, I am waiting for the answer.

Sometimes, you amaze me in a very good way.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 26, 2019, 11:24:23 PM
Stick your “props” where your daddy used to ride you.

You just made my exact point. In an economy where black unemployment could basically be close to zero, twice as many of blacks as Whites still refuse to work. You still haven’t addressed the blacks still indentured to Democrat plantation politics.

It is almost without fail how often stupid people throw around the word racist. So feel free to apologize and I will give you props for go fuck yourself, idiot.


Refuse? Can you give me a definition of what you mean by refuse with respect to this?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 26, 2019, 11:33:34 PM
Still sticking with the obtuse angle of “absolutely” zero blacks work? What kind of an immature child follows that line of logic unless they’re pulling a Primeasshole stunt?  Is that part of you giving your almighty “props”?

LOL....how juvenile and moronic. Take your chance and stick it up your “hatred of White success” ass, racist.

I’ve already said there are some black folks who work, probably hard, and are decent people, I’d assume.

Yet in a record breaking economy you still want to play the White Knight and childishly defend blacks who refuse to work, are still unemployed at twice the rate as Whites, and are too lazy or afraid to leave the Democrat Party because they worship at the government gravy train.

Childish, all to try to prove you’re the racism hall monitor. Hahaha nice little temper tantrum, sophomoric knob.


Look you ignorant, racist troll, we have nearly full employment.  Both blacks and whites are nearly at full employment.  So even your "some black folks who work" comment is not factual.  What the heck are you a Stormfront disciple or something?  You really are a special kind of stupid.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 26, 2019, 11:34:22 PM
Like you, I am waiting for the answer.

Sometimes, you amaze me in a very good way.

Bruh I call things as I see them.  Sometimes you will like what I say, sometimes not.  I follow the facts. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 27, 2019, 12:24:07 AM
To be fair the "official" employment numbers are total BS as they are calculated differently....post-1994 excluding those not looking, out of the system, etc. Current U-6 is 6.90%.

Additionally, if a certain demographic is disproportionately absent the job market long term - then there is a good probability that the number for that demo is much higher than stated under this "new" way of measure.



http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts



"The seasonally-adjusted SGS Alternate Unemployment Rate reflects current unemployment reporting methodology adjusted for SGS-estimated long-term discouraged workers, who were defined out of official existence in 1994. That estimate is added to the BLS estimate of U-6 unemployment, which includes short-term discouraged workers."
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 27, 2019, 05:40:25 AM
To be fair the "official" employment numbers are total BS as they are calculated differently....post-1994 excluding those not looking, out of the system, etc. Current U-6 is 6.90%.

Additionally, if a certain demographic is disproportionately absent the job market long term - then there is a good probability that the number for that demo is much higher than stated under this "new" way of measure.



http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts



"The seasonally-adjusted SGS Alternate Unemployment Rate reflects current unemployment reporting methodology adjusted for SGS-estimated long-term discouraged workers, who were defined out of official existence in 1994. That estimate is added to the BLS estimate of U-6 unemployment, which includes short-term discouraged workers."

Given current economic conditions, it’s hard to explain this without getting politically incorrect:



Nonstop violence as Baltimore nears record homicide rate

https://apnews.com/521b92265e24a213b2a3d9218fc5774b

BALTIMORE (AP) — Baltimore could wrap up 2019 with its highest per-capita homicide rate on record as killings of adults and minors alike for drugs, retribution, money or no clear reason continue to add up and city officials appear unable to stop the violence.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 27, 2019, 08:52:26 AM
https://pjmedia.com/election/elizabeth-warrens-brother-says-shes-lying-about-her-fathers-occupation-on-campaign-trail/?fbclid=IwAR0k7fdoMXcPyHxEWtW1hmDnuKct-PotduLyZN5eGtsj8u0Tb3_XQBxEZeU


 :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 27, 2019, 08:58:26 AM

Look you ignorant, racist troll, we have nearly full employment.  Both blacks and whites are nearly at full employment.  So even your "some black folks who work" comment is not factual.  What the heck are you a Stormfront disciple or something?  You really are a special kind of stupid.   

LOL......what a childish hissy fit. What are you boy, six years old? It’s no wonder once you got done stomping your feet and holding your breath that all you had left was your juvenile racism accusation. Did Santa not bring you a new set of diapers for Christmas?

I thought you were only giving me one chance to earn your almighty “props”? Since you obviously missed it the first time, take your chance and props and stick them up your ass, crybaby. What a weak lame troll, your parents should have done us all a favor and practiced infanticide.

As you have so stupidly shown and proven my points in doing so:

Black unemployment is 100% higher than White unemployment.
Blacks are twice as likely to be unemployed than Whites in this record setting economy.
Blacks still chain themselves to the Democrat Party when in fact the Democrats do very little to nothing for them.
You’re mentally handicapped and incredibly immature.

Suck on that, hall monitor !
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 27, 2019, 09:10:44 AM
LOL......what a childish hissy fit. What are you boy, six years old? It’s no wonder once you got done stomping your feet and holding your breath that all you had left was your juvenile racism accusation. Did Santa not bring you a new set of diapers for Christmas?

I thought you were only giving me one chance to earn your almighty “props”? Since you obviously missed it the first time, take your chance and props and stick them up your ass, crybaby. What a weak lame troll, your parents should have done us all a favor and practiced infanticide.

As you have so stupidly shown and proven my points in doing so:

Black unemployment is 100% higher than White unemployment.
Blacks are twice as likely to be unemployed than Whites in this record setting economy.
Blacks still chain themselves to the Democrat Party when in fact the Democrats do very little to nothing for them.
You’re mentally handicapped and incredibly immature.

Suck on that, hall monitor !

 ::)  STFU Adolf.  You're boring me. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 27, 2019, 11:07:27 AM
::)  STFU Adolf.  You're boring me. 

Awwww, the dauntless defender of the ghetto black welfare culture is going to cry and take his ball home.

Boo hoo.....now I totally understand why you defend Primeasshole.

Go get your fucking shinebox, troll.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 27, 2019, 11:08:19 AM
Mixed feelings about this.  On one hand, I don't like the influence money has in politics.  On the other hand, I don't fault someone for spending their own money. 

The whole Michael Bloomberg angle fascinates me.

He waits until the last minute, throws oodles of money on ads yet seemingly doesn't care much to debate or focus on the early states.

I suppose when you are almost 80 years old and worth tens of billions of dollars you can act that way ???
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 27, 2019, 11:19:01 AM
Awwww, the dauntless defender of the ghetto black welfare culture is going to cry and take his ball home.

Boo hoo.....now I totally understand why you defend Primeasshole.

Go get your fucking shinebox, troll.

You still here?  And I thought the Village Idiot was the only person on here with no friends.   :'(
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 27, 2019, 11:19:55 AM
The whole Michael Bloomberg angle fascinates me.

He waits until the last minute, throws oodles of money on ads yet seemingly doesn't care much to debate or focus on the early states.

I suppose when you are almost 80 years old and worth tens of billions of dollars you can act that way ???

And he is getting zero traction.  But I don't blame him when you see how incredibly weak the field is.  Plus this is monopoly money for him. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 27, 2019, 11:21:40 AM
You still here?  And I thought the Village Idiot was the only person on here with no friends.   :'(

(https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/ufp2qpQaEjq3iaVOgc8EdSJ0j0Q=/420x240/https://public-media.si-cdn.com/filer/34/d0/34d02897-7dde-4ed6-9a51-f4fe4733b522/crying_baby.jpg)

“You have one chance to earn my props....whaaa, whaaa !”
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 27, 2019, 11:26:18 AM
(https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/ufp2qpQaEjq3iaVOgc8EdSJ0j0Q=/420x240/https://public-media.si-cdn.com/filer/34/d0/34d02897-7dde-4ed6-9a51-f4fe4733b522/crying_baby.jpg)

“You have one chance to earn my props....whaaa, whaaa !”

(http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/22600000/Remember-Don-t-Feed-the-Trolls-fanpop-22675484-412-341.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 27, 2019, 11:40:53 AM
Bruh I call things as I see them.  Sometimes you will like what I say, sometimes not.  I follow the facts. 

You follow what you believe to be the facts. Most of us do.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 27, 2019, 11:55:47 AM
You follow what you believe to be the facts. Most of us do.

I know the difference between fact, opinion, and supposition.  I follow the facts. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 27, 2019, 02:45:47 PM
Looks like Pocahontas needs more wampum!


Elizabeth Warren fundraising slows about 30% in fourth quarter

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/27/elizabeth-warren-campaign-sounds-alarm-as-fundraising-slows-down.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on December 27, 2019, 06:28:14 PM
The whole Michael Bloomberg angle fascinates me.

He waits until the last minute, throws oodles of money on ads yet seemingly doesn't care much to debate or focus on the early states.

I suppose when you are almost 80 years old and worth tens of billions of dollars you can act that way ???
Is this a tax write off for him ??? He hasn't made a dent in Bidens lead of candidates.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 29, 2019, 05:10:37 AM
Is this a tax write off for him ??? He hasn't made a dent in Bidens lead of candidates.

The one thing I can say is his campaign spending solves the issue of the Democrats pathetic fund raising thus far.Trump is just DESTROYING the other side in regards to that. Bloomberg's pockets seem to have no bottom.

Sargon did a pretty good video sort of praising him as running the best campaign targeted to "normies" rather than the plugged in internet people(like ourselves on here)

I mean I guess if I had to pick a "dark horse" it would be him but it still seems way too late.

Yang and Klobuchar can't seem to gain any traction. Mayor Pete is getting sniped at every angle and constantly picking arrows out of his body. Hell, Tulsi doesn't even want to debate anymore.

Biden is so far ahead and Bernie has that rock solid 20ish percent support so it's hard to see them getting passed up but maybe Bloomberg can make a late push and jump to that third spot?

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 29, 2019, 07:48:21 AM
Would love to see Bloomberg on a debate stage with Trump. He's about a foot shorter so would be comical.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 29, 2019, 08:09:13 AM
Bloomberg is the only one at least who ever did anything both in business and govt successfully.  The rest are a damn joke
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 29, 2019, 08:37:50 AM
Bloomberg is the only one at least who ever did anything both in business and govt successfully.  The rest are a damn joke

At this point, he shouldn’t even be a Democrat. He’s a businessman in the anti-business party.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on December 29, 2019, 10:42:08 AM
At this point, he shouldn’t even be a Democrat. He’s a businessman in the anti-business party.

He's  almost a RINO wearing a dress.  Fuck him and put him on the Endangered Feces List.  He is evile.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 29, 2019, 12:58:41 PM
He's  almost a RINO wearing a dress.  Fuck him and put him on the Endangered Feces List.  He is evile.

I suspect he knows more than the public about Biden’s doings in the Ukraine and put himself in there just in case Creepy Joe goes down.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 29, 2019, 03:03:52 PM
This seems to telegraph that there isn’t gonna be a trial:


Biden Changes Course on Potential Trump Impeachment Subpoena | Time

https://time.com/5756251/biden-trump-impeachment-iowa-subpoena/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 29, 2019, 03:05:52 PM
Ukraine again?
Who'd have thunk that Trumpers would use Borat's neighboring country as their political weapon of choice ?
High 5 for all you Tryumpers


You’re doing nothing to dispel the stereotype of liberals projecting and having a lack of self-awareness. The whole fucking impeachment was about Ukraine.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on December 29, 2019, 03:20:57 PM
You’re doing nothing to dispel the stereotype of liberals projecting and having a lack of self-awareness. The whole fucking impeachment was about Ukraine trying to smear Trumps name and campaign for the 2020 election because the democrats know they don't have a single candidate that can beat Trump.
Fixed
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 29, 2019, 03:43:23 PM
Fixed

True, but they’re also trying to cover up their own actions the whole bunch of them have their hands dirty in the Ukraine. Biden didn’t have that Prosecutor fired for nothing.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 29, 2019, 03:49:21 PM
This seems to telegraph that there isn’t gonna be a trial:


Biden Changes Course on Potential Trump Impeachment Subpoena | Time

https://time.com/5756251/biden-trump-impeachment-iowa-subpoena/

"“The reason I wouldn’t is because it’s all designed to deal with Trump doing what he’s done his whole life: trying to take the focus off him. The issue is not what I did,” Biden said..."

https://time.com/5756251/biden-trump-impeachment-iowa-subpoena/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 29, 2019, 04:05:57 PM
"“The reason I wouldn’t is because it’s all designed to deal with Trump doing what he’s done his whole life: trying to take the focus off him. The issue is not what I did,” Biden said..."

https://time.com/5756251/biden-trump-impeachment-iowa-subpoena/

Projection.

Everybody is onto the Democratic stunt of trying to blame others for what they do themselves.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 29, 2019, 04:23:22 PM
Projection.

Everybody is onto the Democratic stunt of trying to blame others for what they do themselves.

Subpoena the unredacted transcripts of all of Barry Sotero, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden’s phone calls concerning the Ukraine.

If Hunter and Joe have nothing to hide, then they should welcome a new, thorough, legitimate investigation into their roles in known Ukrainian corruption
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on December 29, 2019, 07:16:04 PM
"“The reason I wouldn’t is because it’s all designed to deal with Trump doing what he’s done his whole life: trying to take the focus off him. The issue is not what I did,” Biden said..."

https://time.com/5756251/biden-trump-impeachment-iowa-subpoena/
If Biden hadn't done what he did, Trump wouldn't have had anything to ask about.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 29, 2019, 07:32:56 PM
These are the 3 potential storylines I am most interested in going foward:

1. Joe Biden winning the nomination then watching the media doing backflips trying to avoid bringing up the fact that this poor old man is losing his mind. When you add in the internet memes, the video and sound bites, outrage from the fervent leftists that the Democrats went with another Neo-lib and of course, Trump cracking on Joe in front of tens of thousands at his rallies, it makes for a particularly delicious proposition.

2. In true mega-rich oligarchic fashion - Mike Bloomberg. "F you, I am going to go out there and attempt to buy this election, cost be damned. I am not even going to bother debating. Just sit in the shadows and throws gobs of money at it. 100s of millions of dollars if necessary."

3. Bernie. What if he takes Iowa and New Hampshire then legit makes a run at it? Just seeing Obama and the powers that be at the DNC step in to put out that kitchen fire a second time will be fantastic. And of course the outrage once again from that left flank of the party(if you can even call the two sides a political party at this point)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Irongrip400 on December 29, 2019, 07:43:09 PM
Would love to see Bloomberg on a debate stage with Trump. He's about a foot shorter so would be comical.

Yeah but he’s richer. If he really wanted to set Trump off he could pull that card, but I’m not sure he’d stoop to that level.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on December 29, 2019, 08:13:33 PM
Yeah but he’s richer. If he really wanted to set Trump off he could pull that card, but I’m not sure he’d stoop to that level.

It’s not about stooping - all Democrats do is slam the rich, so bragging about it wouldn’t be the brightest move.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 29, 2019, 08:30:31 PM
Yeah but he’s richer. If he really wanted to set Trump off he could pull that card, but I’m not sure he’d stoop to that level.

Bloomberg: I was the Republican mayor of failing New York City

President Trump: I am the leader of the free world and saved America from the Obama disaster.

Moderator: Next question
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 29, 2019, 10:01:32 PM
It’s not about stooping - all Democrats do is slam the rich, so bragging about it wouldn’t be the brightest move.


The whole dem platform is spending other people's money and getting revenge on the rich. Bloomberg is a fish out of water in his party, and he doesn't even understand the change in the last 5 years. These old rich whites need to get outta the way and hand over their privilege...errr...money and power.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 30, 2019, 06:19:28 AM
Seems like the Democrats are up against the wall with Biden. If they put him out there on a regular basis it will be clearly apparent that he should really be in a retirement home. If they hide him, Trump just tees off saying he’s low energy and not up to the task.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 30, 2019, 10:18:40 AM
If Biden hadn't done what he did, Trump wouldn't have had anything to ask about.

Then he would have manufactured something to discredit Biden. That's what he does.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on December 30, 2019, 10:26:20 AM
Realistically Bloomberg, being Jewish, will be a tough sell outside of his liberal base in NYC/northeast USA.

He's got so much money he can afford to blow $200 million no sweat so what the heck, go to it.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 30, 2019, 10:26:38 AM
Then he would have manufactured something to discredit Biden. That's what he does.


LOL

Like the “Steele Dossier”?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 30, 2019, 10:33:23 AM

LOL

Like the “Steele Dossier”?

If you want to believe that, that's your right.

The Inside Story of Christopher Steele’s Trump Dossier
In a new book, the founders of the firm that compiled it defend their work.

In “Crime in Progress,” the Fusion GPS co-founders Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch present a mountain of evidence on Trump’s dealings with corrupt foreign players.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-inside-story-of-christopher-steeles-trump-dossier
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 30, 2019, 11:20:29 AM
If you want to believe that, that's your right.

The Inside Story of Christopher Steele’s Trump Dossier
In a new book, the founders of the firm that compiled it defend their work.

In “Crime in Progress,” the Fusion GPS co-founders Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch present a mountain of evidence on Trump’s dealings with corrupt foreign players.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-inside-story-of-christopher-steeles-trump-dossier



Hahaha

Even the Washington post Rolling Stone have admitted that the steel dossier is a joke.



Rachel Maddow rooted for the Steele dossier to be true. Then it fell apart. - The Washington Post
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/26/rachel-maddow-rooted-steele-dossier-be-true-then-it-fell-apart/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on December 30, 2019, 11:28:34 AM

Hahaha

Even the Washington post Rolling Stone have admitted that the steel dossier is a joke.



Rachel Maddow rooted for the Steele dossier to be true. Then it fell apart. - The Washington Post
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/26/rachel-maddow-rooted-steele-dossier-be-true-then-it-fell-apart/

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 30, 2019, 01:39:50 PM
What a truly awful time to be a Democrat. 

Democrats Are Reportedly Beginning To Think Bernie Sanders Might Be Their Candidate
DAVID KRAYDEN
OTTAWA BUREAU CHIEF
December 27, 2019
https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/27/democrats-senator-bernie-sanders-candidates-president-leading-report/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 30, 2019, 05:06:49 PM

Hahaha

Even the Washington post Rolling Stone have admitted that the steel dossier is a joke.



Rachel Maddow rooted for the Steele dossier to be true. Then it fell apart. - The Washington Post
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/26/rachel-maddow-rooted-steele-dossier-be-true-then-it-fell-apart/

The only proofs you need, to know that the Steele dossier was a complete scam are that Hillary Clinton paid for it and the traitor John McCain promoted it.

Both should rot in hell.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on December 30, 2019, 06:37:06 PM
I know he's not running for president anymore, but is he not one of the dumbest persons in Congress?

Rep. Eric Swalwell
@RepSwalwell
Big shout out to all the civilian “good guys with guns” who saved lives in Odessa. You know who you are. Thanks a million.

*btw, Texas IS an open carry state.
9:04 AM · Sep 1, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

And four months later . . . .

Gunman kills 2 at White Settlement church before 2 members fatally shoot him
Law enforcement officials credited members of the church’s security team for ending the attack quickly.
By Dana Branham, Nataly Keomoungkhoun, Tom Steele and LaVendrick Smith
Dec 29, 2019
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/12/29/2-dead-1-in-critical-condition-after-reported-shooting-at-church-in-white-settlement/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 30, 2019, 07:10:50 PM

 ;D
 ;D



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hecklers-biden-quid-pro-joe-new-hampshire
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 31, 2019, 05:40:01 AM
Joe Biden Says He’d Be Open to Picking a Republican Running Mate

(https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1687,w_3000,x_0,y_0/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_655/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1577743583/GettyImages-1196382093_1_cupnxg)


Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden declared on Monday that he’d be open to a Republican as his running mate should he win the nomination, though he was unable to come up with a specific name.

During a campaign stop in New Hampshire, the 77-year-old former vice president—who has been running on a platform that he can bridge the nation’s partisan divide—was asked by one woman about the possibility that he could lead a bipartisan ticket.

“Our 21-year-old son said the other night, ‘I wonder if Joe Biden would consider choosing a Republican as a running mate,’” the New Hampshire voter wondered.

“The answer is I would, but I can’t think of one now,” Biden answered, adding: “You know, there’s some really decent Republicans that are out there still, but here’s the problem right now, with the well-known ones—they’ve got to step up.”

Biden, who has previously said he’d prefer to pick a woman and/or a person of color as his veep, went on to point out that there are “a lot of qualified women” and African-Americans to choose from.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-biden-says-hed-be-open-to-picking-a-republican-running-mate
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on December 31, 2019, 07:19:03 AM

DNC rejects Andrew Yang's request to commission polls to increase diversity at January debate

The Democratic National Committee on Monday rejected a request by presidential candidate Andrew Yang to commission additional polls that would help candidates qualify for the January debate stage in an effort to increase diversity at the event.

In a letter written earlier this month and reported by The Daily Beast on Monday, Yang said requirements for the Des Moines, Iowa, debate in January should include four commissioned early state polls before the Jan. 10 deadline.

"With the upcoming holidays and meager number of polls currently out in the field, a diverse set of candidates might be absent from the stage in Des Moines for reasons out of anyone's control," Yang wrote to DNC Chairman Tom Perez in the letter dated Dec. 21.

A DNC spokesperson said in a statement to USA TODAY that it has been "more than inclusive throughout this entire process," and cited 26 qualifying polls for the December debate.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/12/30/election-2020-andrew-yang-asks-dnc-more-polls-diversify-debate/2775509001/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on December 31, 2019, 01:50:03 PM
Joe Biden Says He’d Be Open to Picking a Republican Running Mate

(https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1687,w_3000,x_0,y_0/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_655/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1577743583/GettyImages-1196382093_1_cupnxg)


Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden declared on Monday that he’d be open to a Republican as his running mate should he win the nomination, though he was unable to come up with a specific name.

During a campaign stop in New Hampshire, the 77-year-old former vice president—who has been running on a platform that he can bridge the nation’s partisan divide—was asked by one woman about the possibility that he could lead a bipartisan ticket.

“Our 21-year-old son said the other night, ‘I wonder if Joe Biden would consider choosing a Republican as a running mate,’” the New Hampshire voter wondered.

“The answer is I would, but I can’t think of one now,” Biden answered, adding: “You know, there’s some really decent Republicans that are out there still, but here’s the problem right now, with the well-known ones—they’ve got to step up.”

Biden, who has previously said he’d prefer to pick a woman and/or a person of color as his veep, went on to point out that there are “a lot of qualified women” and African-Americans to choose from.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-biden-says-hed-be-open-to-picking-a-republican-running-mate

Whoever he picks, it had better not be former Governor of Alaska and John McCain's running mate Sarah Palin. Was that ever the biggest mistake a Presidential candidate has ever made? Whopper!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 01, 2020, 07:55:35 AM
Whoever he picks, it had better not be former Governor of Alaska and John McCain's running mate Sarah Palin. Was that ever the biggest mistake a Presidential candidate has ever made? Whopper!


No, it would be a ready and willing RINO Romney.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 01, 2020, 11:46:04 AM
Whoever he picks, it had better not be former Governor of Alaska and John McCain's running mate Sarah Palin. Was that ever the biggest mistake a Presidential candidate has ever made? Whopper!
palin had nothing to do w McCain losing. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Griffith on January 01, 2020, 11:57:48 AM
DNC rejects Andrew Yang's request to commission polls to increase diversity at January debate

The Democratic National Committee on Monday rejected a request by presidential candidate Andrew Yang to commission additional polls that would help candidates qualify for the January debate stage in an effort to increase diversity at the event.

In a letter written earlier this month and reported by The Daily Beast on Monday, Yang said requirements for the Des Moines, Iowa, debate in January should include four commissioned early state polls before the Jan. 10 deadline.

"With the upcoming holidays and meager number of polls currently out in the field, a diverse set of candidates might be absent from the stage in Des Moines for reasons out of anyone's control," Yang wrote to DNC Chairman Tom Perez in the letter dated Dec. 21.

A DNC spokesperson said in a statement to USA TODAY that it has been "more than inclusive throughout this entire process," and cited 26 qualifying polls for the December debate.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/12/30/election-2020-andrew-yang-asks-dnc-more-polls-diversify-debate/2775509001/

If you want to see the huge damages causes by Affirmative Action, Racial Quotas, 'Employment Equity', Broad Based Black Economic Empowerment and employing people according to their racial demographic percentages....then look at South Africa.

The system is a complete failure. Every thing is falling apart.

Apparently the Ministry of Education want to reduce the Maths pass rate from 30 % to 20 %  to help more black people pass.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 01, 2020, 12:21:44 PM
palin had nothing to do w McCain losing. 

Correct.  She helped him.  Plus people vote the top of the ticket in presidential elections.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on January 01, 2020, 12:51:29 PM
palin had nothing to do w McCain losing. 

That wasn't my point.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 01, 2020, 02:03:23 PM
That wasn't my point.

Yes it was.  Why bring it up ?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on January 01, 2020, 04:53:40 PM
Correct.  She helped him.  Plus people vote the top of the ticket in presidential elections.

You don't think McCain would have done better with Kay Bailey Hutchinson as his running mate than the Mayor of Wasila?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 01, 2020, 07:01:53 PM
You don't think McCain would have done better with Kay Bailey Hutchinson as his running mate than the Mayor of Wasila?

He would have never picked her because she is pro choice.  Same reason Linda Lingle (who would have been better than Palin IMO) didn't get serious consideration.  It's a litmus test for GOP VP nominees. 

I think it's wrong, because people vote the top of the ticket, but that's the way it is. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 01, 2020, 07:26:09 PM
Ron Meyer: Why Joe Biden's 2020 campaign appears to be 'cooked'
By David Montanaro | Fox News

Political analyst makes bold 2020 prediction about Joe Biden's chances
Joe Biden's 2020 presidential campaign appears to be "cooked," political analyst Ron Meyer said Wednesday on "Fox & Friends."

Explaining his bold prediction, Meyer pointed at the changes introduced to the way delegates are designated in the Democratic Party. He said the elimination of superdelegates and winner-take-all primary contests adds up to bad news for the former vice president, even though he now leads in national polls.

Meyer said in states where Biden is ahead he holds only small leads, meaning that candidates like Sens. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren will also be picking up delegates there. He said once Warren or Sanders drop out of the race, their delegates will switch to support the other.

"If you look at Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, they’re right behind him in most of these states or beating him in [Iowa and New Hampshire]. So when you add up the two socialist candidates versus the one moderate candidate, they overtake him," Meyer said.

"And so as these delegates amass, you’re going to see basically the left wing of the party is going to have more delegates at the end of the day. So when Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren drops out, those delegates will consolidate behind one candidate that’s not Joe Biden, and that spells trouble for him.

"I think he's cooked," he concluded.

Biden remains the preferred presidential candidate among Democratic primary voters, as a Fox News Poll released two weeks ago showed more voters think he is capable of beating President Trump.

In addition, more Democratic primary voters think Biden is “about right” on issues (64 percent) than Buttigieg (56 percent), Warren (53 percent), Sanders (49 percent), and Bloomberg (47 percent). Seventy-eight percent of Republicans say Trump’s positions are “about right.”

Running down the Democratic race: Biden leads with 30 percent, followed by Sanders at 20 percent. Warren returns to third with 13 percent, down from a high of 22 percent in October.

Listing his other 2020 political predictions, Meyer said he believes the USMCA trade deal will be passed and signed into law in the next three months, while a China trade deal will not pass in Congress.

He also said he believes Trump will win in 2020 based on the strong economy and anticipated Warren or Sanders will be the Democrats' nominee.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/ron-meyer-joe-biden-campaign-cooked
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on January 02, 2020, 01:05:16 AM
He would have never picked her because she is pro choice.  Same reason Linda Lingle (who would have been better than Palin IMO) didn't get serious consideration.  It's a litmus test for GOP VP nominees. 

I think it's wrong, because people vote the top of the ticket, but that's the way it is. 

Are you certain of this?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 02, 2020, 06:26:16 AM
https://trib.al/bJIyb0Y


Castro is done.   See ya
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on January 02, 2020, 06:42:24 AM
https://trib.al/bJIyb0Y


Castro is done.   See ya
He'll be the VP choice if Warren is the candidate.

Because they will not choose on the basis of their issues, but based on race and gender.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on January 02, 2020, 01:03:29 PM
He'll be the VP choice if Warren is the candidate.

Because they will not choose on the basis of their issues, but based on race and gender.

Ha ha - just how pathetic & Fcuking Stupid are They.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on January 02, 2020, 01:14:11 PM
PEDO for POTUS 2020 !!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 02, 2020, 03:51:46 PM
 to comments.

Williamson lays off entire campaign staff
The Hill ^ | 1-2-2020 | Max Greenwood
Posted on 1/2/2020, 6:47:19 PM by tcrlaf

Best-selling author Marianne Williamson has laid off her entire campaign staff, according to two sources close to the campaign.

The longshot Democratic presidential hopeful will continue to seek her party’s nomination. But she’ll do so without a staff behind her. Manchester, N.H.-based television station WMUR first reported the mass layoffs on Thursday.

Williamson, an author and celebrity spiritual adviser, has been campaigning for the Democratic nomination for nearly a year. But she has struggled to break out of the lower tier of the primary field, often failing to register in national polls.

Unlike her middle- and top-tier rivals, Williamson retained only a small staff. Her latest federal financial report filed in October showed only a few dozen employees on her team. Among those laid off was campaign manager Patricia Ewing.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 02, 2020, 11:22:18 PM
Am I the only one who forgot he was still running?

Julián Castro Drops Out Of The Democratic Presidential Race
January 2, 2020
ELENA MOORE
BENJAMIN SWASEY
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/02/774556481/julian-castro-drops-out-of-the-democratic-presidential-race
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 03, 2020, 06:47:53 PM
+6 rise  :o

Does the old saying still ring true in reference to Bloomberg v. Warren...

Money talks and bullshit walks?

Bloomberg rises to third place alongside Warren in national poll


(https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/dem-preference-2020-hillharrisx.jpg)


Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg saw a 6-point bump in the latest Hill.TV survey of the Democratic presidential primary.

The nationwide poll, which was released Friday, shows Bloomberg up from 5 percent to 11 percent support for the nomination nationally. The former New York City mayor is now in a dead heat for third place with top-tier candidate, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who also received 11 percent support.

Biden, meanwhile, continues to lead the Democratic field with 28 percent followed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) at 16 percent.

Former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg saw another slight dip, after slipping 4 percentage points in mid-December. In the latest survey, he now has 6 percent support, down from 5 percent from the Dec. 13-14 poll.

Bloomberg’s rise in the latest Hill-HarrisX survey comes in spite of his late entry into the 2020 race and the fact that he hasn’t appeared in any of the Democratic primary debates.

Bloomberg has chosen an unorthodox campaign strategy, making the decision not to raise money and instead deciding to fund his own campaign. This has disqualified him from taking the debate stage under rules from the Democratic National Convention.

Under DNC rules, candidates must reach certain polling and fundraising thresholds.

However, prior to announcing his bid in November, Bloomberg launched an ad buy totaling roughly $19.4 million over 90 local markets across the country. After making his campaign official, he also rolled out a 60-second spot as part of his $31.5 million media blitz.

Bloomberg's multimillion-dollar ad expenditure has made him a prime target for his fellow rivals.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/476689-bloomberg-rises-to-third-place-alongside-warren-in-national-poll
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 03, 2020, 08:45:13 PM
Bernie was the actual candidate last time as well.

Hilarity ensues when AOC has to stump for Bloomberg.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 03, 2020, 10:15:19 PM
Are you certain of this?

Yeah.

Hutchison switches to calling herself ‘pro-life’ but doesn’t elaborate
By Todd J. Gillman
Sep 1, 2012
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2012/09/02/hutchison-switches-to-calling-herself-pro-life-but-doesnt-elaborate/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 06, 2020, 09:52:38 AM

Judge Judy rules in favor of Mike Bloomberg, will join him on campaign trail

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Mike Bloomberg just released a new campaign ad featuring the most trusted jurist in America. It’s not the Chief Justice, but — for a billionaire candidate who needs to connect with working class voters — someone much better: Judith Sheindlin, known in most homes as TV’s  “Judge Judy.”

Celebrity endorsements are a well-worn part of politics, of course, but they typically deliver less than candidates hope for: A quick rush of headlines, maybe, but most voters don’t ultimately make choices based on their favorite television characters.

Sheindlin could be different.

That has a lot to do with her brand of television and how her massive audience — nearly ten million people a day — views her.

The 30-second commercial, titled “Judge Him,” shows Sheindlin sitting in what looks like judicial chambers, advocating for Bloomberg’s “steady leadership” in “very challenging times.” The setting and the atmosphere capitalize on what the former New York family court judge has spent nearly 25 television seasons building: credibility.

Audience studies conducted during my years as a CBS executive working with the “Judge Judy” show consistently ranked her as tough, fair, honest and direct — attributes any politician would die for. Her standing in our wider popular culture runs high: According to a 2013 poll, more Americans trust Judge Judy than any of the Supreme Court justices. A 2016 survey revealed 10 percent of college graduates believe she actually already serves on the highest court in the land.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/476867-judge-judy-rules-in-favor-of-mike-bloomberg-will-join-him-on-campaign-trail
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on January 06, 2020, 09:59:44 AM
Seems like they are voting for this guy:

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+6 rise  :o

Does the old saying still ring true in reference to Bloomberg v. Warren...

Money talks and bullshit walks?

Bloomberg rises to third place alongside Warren in national poll


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Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg saw a 6-point bump in the latest Hill.TV survey of the Democratic presidential primary.

The nationwide poll, which was released Friday, shows Bloomberg up from 5 percent to 11 percent support for the nomination nationally. The former New York City mayor is now in a dead heat for third place with top-tier candidate, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who also received 11 percent support.

Biden, meanwhile, continues to lead the Democratic field with 28 percent followed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) at 16 percent.

Former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg saw another slight dip, after slipping 4 percentage points in mid-December. In the latest survey, he now has 6 percent support, down from 5 percent from the Dec. 13-14 poll.

Bloomberg’s rise in the latest Hill-HarrisX survey comes in spite of his late entry into the 2020 race and the fact that he hasn’t appeared in any of the Democratic primary debates.

Bloomberg has chosen an unorthodox campaign strategy, making the decision not to raise money and instead deciding to fund his own campaign. This has disqualified him from taking the debate stage under rules from the Democratic National Convention.

Under DNC rules, candidates must reach certain polling and fundraising thresholds.

However, prior to announcing his bid in November, Bloomberg launched an ad buy totaling roughly $19.4 million over 90 local markets across the country. After making his campaign official, he also rolled out a 60-second spot as part of his $31.5 million media blitz.

Bloomberg's multimillion-dollar ad expenditure has made him a prime target for his fellow rivals.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/476689-bloomberg-rises-to-third-place-alongside-warren-in-national-poll


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2020, 03:57:06 PM
+6 rise  :o

Does the old saying still ring true in reference to Bloomberg v. Warren...

Money talks and bullshit walks?

Bloomberg rises to third place alongside Warren in national poll


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Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg saw a 6-point bump in the latest Hill.TV survey of the Democratic presidential primary.

The nationwide poll, which was released Friday, shows Bloomberg up from 5 percent to 11 percent support for the nomination nationally. The former New York City mayor is now in a dead heat for third place with top-tier candidate, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who also received 11 percent support.

Biden, meanwhile, continues to lead the Democratic field with 28 percent followed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) at 16 percent.

Former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg saw another slight dip, after slipping 4 percentage points in mid-December. In the latest survey, he now has 6 percent support, down from 5 percent from the Dec. 13-14 poll.

Bloomberg’s rise in the latest Hill-HarrisX survey comes in spite of his late entry into the 2020 race and the fact that he hasn’t appeared in any of the Democratic primary debates.

Bloomberg has chosen an unorthodox campaign strategy, making the decision not to raise money and instead deciding to fund his own campaign. This has disqualified him from taking the debate stage under rules from the Democratic National Convention.

Under DNC rules, candidates must reach certain polling and fundraising thresholds.

However, prior to announcing his bid in November, Bloomberg launched an ad buy totaling roughly $19.4 million over 90 local markets across the country. After making his campaign official, he also rolled out a 60-second spot as part of his $31.5 million media blitz.

Bloomberg's multimillion-dollar ad expenditure has made him a prime target for his fellow rivals.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/476689-bloomberg-rises-to-third-place-alongside-warren-in-national-poll

Sometimes your up and sometimes you are down. That's life in the polls.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 07, 2020, 04:18:59 AM
Could we end up having a contested convention where the superdelegates push Warren over the finish line? She seems to be the establishment choice.

Julián Castro endorses Elizabeth Warren for the White House

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Just days after ending his own White House bid, former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro is endorsing Sen. Elizabeth Warren for president.

Castro, who suspended his campaign on January 2, announced his decision to back the Massachusetts Democrat in a video released Monday morning. “There’s one candidate I see who’s unafraid to fight like hell to make sure America’s promise will be there for everyone,” Castro says. “Who will make sure that no matter where you live in America or where your family came from in the world, you have a path to opportunity too. That’s why I’m proud to endorse Elizabeth Warren for President.”

The video features the pair speaking with one another in Warren’s kitchen at her Massachusetts home as her dog, Bailey, looks on.

“You know, I started my campaign off, and we lived true to the idea that we want an America where everyone counts,” Castro says. “It’s the same vision that I see in you, in your campaign, in the America that you would help bring about.”

    Today I'm proud to endorse @ewarren for president.

    Elizabeth and I share a vision of America where everyone counts. An America where people⁠—not the wealthy or well-connected⁠—are put first. I'm proud to join her in the fight for big, structural change. pic.twitter.com/xDvMEKqpF3
    — Julián Castro (@JulianCastro) January 6, 2020

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/6/21051628/julian-castro-endorsement-twitter-elizabeth-warren-democrat
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on January 07, 2020, 07:33:42 AM
Could we end up having a contested convention where the superdelegates push Warren over the finish line? She seems to be the establishment choice.

Julián Castro endorses Elizabeth Warren for the White House

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Just days after ending his own White House bid, former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro is endorsing Sen. Elizabeth Warren for president.

Castro, who suspended his campaign on January 2, announced his decision to back the Massachusetts Democrat in a video released Monday morning. “There’s one candidate I see who’s unafraid to fight like hell to make sure America’s promise will be there for everyone,” Castro says. “Who will make sure that no matter where you live in America or where your family came from in the world, you have a path to opportunity too. That’s why I’m proud to endorse Elizabeth Warren for President.”

The video features the pair speaking with one another in Warren’s kitchen at her Massachusetts home as her dog, Bailey, looks on.

“You know, I started my campaign off, and we lived true to the idea that we want an America where everyone counts,” Castro says. “It’s the same vision that I see in you, in your campaign, in the America that you would help bring about.”

    Today I'm proud to endorse @ewarren for president.

    Elizabeth and I share a vision of America where everyone counts. An America where people⁠—not the wealthy or well-connected⁠—are put first. I'm proud to join her in the fight for big, structural change. pic.twitter.com/xDvMEKqpF3
    — Julián Castro (@JulianCastro) January 6, 2020

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/6/21051628/julian-castro-endorsement-twitter-elizabeth-warren-democrat

Called it:

He'll be the VP choice if Warren is the candidate.

Because they will not choose on the basis of their issues, but based on race and gender.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 07, 2020, 11:45:35 AM
Could we end up having a contested convention where the superdelegates push Warren over the finish line? She seems to be the establishment choice.

Julián Castro endorses Elizabeth Warren for the White House

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Just days after ending his own White House bid, former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro is endorsing Sen. Elizabeth Warren for president.

Castro, who suspended his campaign on January 2, announced his decision to back the Massachusetts Democrat in a video released Monday morning. “There’s one candidate I see who’s unafraid to fight like hell to make sure America’s promise will be there for everyone,” Castro says. “Who will make sure that no matter where you live in America or where your family came from in the world, you have a path to opportunity too. That’s why I’m proud to endorse Elizabeth Warren for President.”

The video features the pair speaking with one another in Warren’s kitchen at her Massachusetts home as her dog, Bailey, looks on.

“You know, I started my campaign off, and we lived true to the idea that we want an America where everyone counts,” Castro says. “It’s the same vision that I see in you, in your campaign, in the America that you would help bring about.”

    Today I'm proud to endorse @ewarren for president.

    Elizabeth and I share a vision of America where everyone counts. An America where people⁠—not the wealthy or well-connected⁠—are put first. I'm proud to join her in the fight for big, structural change. pic.twitter.com/xDvMEKqpF3
    — Julián Castro (@JulianCastro) January 6, 2020

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/6/21051628/julian-castro-endorsement-twitter-elizabeth-warren-democrat

I think she’s the back up quarterback in case Biden has to bow out for health reasons, something that seems like a good possibility.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 07, 2020, 01:24:12 PM
Called it:


Well played Sir!

It's shaping up to be a very interesting and potentially very bloody primary season.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on January 07, 2020, 04:22:22 PM
Called it:


Right on your heels, hoss!

Gosh, I hadn't considered things beyond Warren getting the nomination. 

Castro as VP makes the most sense to me.  The first minority VP fits the Democrat's agenda perfectly. 
The meat-hating single guy is not relatable to the average American.

Democrats spent more than two years keeping Miguel Estrada on the sidelines, lest Bush nominate him to the
Federal court, and then possibly to the SCOTUS.  Recall that Obama's first nominee to the SCOTUS was Hispanic.

Good prediction.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 07, 2020, 10:12:02 PM
I think she’s the back up quarterback in case Biden has to bow out for health reasons, something that seems like a good possibility.



Biden IS showing signs of dementia. He's be a puppet for the party at best and would never make it a full term. Can you impeach for senility?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 07, 2020, 11:10:42 PM


Biden IS showing signs of dementia. He's be a puppet for the party at best and would never make it a full term. Can you impeach for senility?

This is true.  He really does sound like a senile old man. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 08, 2020, 05:51:04 AM
Trump, Bloomberg spend $10 million each on Super Bowl commercials

The Super Bowl is by far the most-watched television program of the year in the United States, and the Super Bowl is also the only television program for which the commercials are one of the reasons viewers tune in. So in an election year, perhaps it’s no surprise that Super Bowl viewers will be treated to campaign ads.


Both President Trump and Democratic candidate Michael Bloomberg have bought one-minute ads on the Super Bowl, at a price of about $10 million, according to multiple reports.

Trump’s 2020 campaign has more than $100 million on hand, and Bloomberg, who has a net worth estimated at upwards of $50 billion, has pledged to spend $100 million of his own money. So both campaigns can easily afford the $10 million price tag.

The Super Bowl is the day before the Iowa Caucuses, although Trump has no significant opposition for the Republican primary and Bloomberg is focused on bigger states later in the primary season. These commercials won’t be about the Iowa Caucuses, but about the billionaire president and an even wealthier billionaire opponent trying to reach the largest possible audience in America.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/08/trump-bloomberg-spend-10-million-each-on-super-bowl-commercials/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 08, 2020, 06:52:17 AM
This is true.  He really does sound like a senile old man. 

If you ever watch his town halls he’s always saying things in the wrong order eg. I shaved and then I woke up.

Reverse this with a Dem Prez and a bumbling Repub candidate and the media would be having a field, but as it stands they pretend it’s not happening.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 08, 2020, 08:49:49 AM
If you ever watch his town halls he’s always saying things in the wrong order eg. I shaved and then I woke up.

Reverse this with a Dem Prez and a bumbling Repub candidate and the media would be having a field, but as it stands they pretend it’s not happening.

That's one of the dynamics I love about this race going forward.

The media pretends it's not happening but the rest of the internet openly mocks it and puts together all sorts of hilarious videos and memes.

It will be interesting to see who has the greater influence in the coming months. We have to take into account all the normies out there who are not really connected to that side of the internet but I feel like that group is becoming smaller and smaller at a relatively steady pace.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on January 08, 2020, 10:54:24 AM
That's one of the dynamics I love about this race going forward.

The media pretends it's not happening but the rest of the internet openly mocks it and puts together all sorts of hilarious videos and memes.

It will be interesting to see who has the greater influence in the coming months. We have to take into account all the normies out there who are not really connected to that side of the internet but I feel like that group is becoming smaller and smaller at a relatively steady pace.

It's funny though, out of all the Dem candidate, I feel Biden would be the least disastrous, provided he's not in bad mental health.

Warren / Sanders would tank the markets.

Biden would be "meh", and the progressive wing would be attacking constantly.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: James on January 08, 2020, 12:36:17 PM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 08, 2020, 12:53:27 PM
It's funny though, out of all the Dem candidate, I feel Biden would be the least disastrous, provided he's not in bad mental health.

Warren / Sanders would tank the markets.

Biden would be "meh", and the progressive wing would be attacking constantly.

I agree. He’s the status quo. Under his presidency, nothing would get done. The other two socialist dopes would try to enact their policies with the usual results.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 08, 2020, 12:57:31 PM
It's funny though, out of all the Dem candidate, I feel Biden would be the least disastrous, provided he's not in bad mental health.

Warren / Sanders would tank the markets.

Biden would be "meh", and the progressive wing would be attacking constantly.

Oh they already are, there's a good article today in Politico over that very subject.

And with Bernie increasingly look like he has a decent chance to make a run at the nomination, they will become more and more emboldened.

I feel like the progressive wing could SOMEWHAT swallow a Warren nomination but will likely come unglued with Biden at the top of the ticket....especially if he continues with the gaffes.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/08/progressives-pre-iowa-assault-biden-095934
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 10, 2020, 10:09:00 AM
"And spiritual leader"  ;D

Can't say I really even disliked the lady...just a little too far out there for my tastes.

Marianne Williamson drops out of 2020 presidential race


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(Gray News) - A longshot for the Democratic nomination, author and spiritual leader Marianne Williamson has suspended her presidential campaign.

“With caucuses and primaries now about to begin, however, we will not be able to garner enough votes in the election to elevate our conversation any more than it is now. The primaries might be tightly contested among the top contenders, and I don’t want to get in the way of a progressive candidate winning any of them,” Williamson said.

Williamson has published 12 books, eight of which are best sellers, and she’s been a frequent TV guest for Oprah and Bill Maher.

She joins former Obama administration official Julian Castro as recent departures from the campaign trail as the Iowa caucus looms.

https://www.kktv.com/content/news/Marianne-Williamson-drops-out-of-2020-presidential-race--566879691.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 10, 2020, 11:00:44 AM
Bloomberg Passes Buttigieg In RCP Betting Odds, Could Blow Past Warren Next


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llionaire and Democratic presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg has pushed ahead of Mayor Pete Buttigieg in the Real Clear Politics Betting Odds Average.


.@MikeBloomberg has now passed Buttigieg for 4th place in the RCP Betting Odds Average. If the upward trend continues, he’ll soon be moving into 3rd place ahead of Warren. pic.twitter.com/Ge83wroLE5

— Tom Bevan (@TomBevanRCP) January 10, 2020

Former Vice President Joe Biden is still atop the heap at 36.1, 9.4 points ahead of his closest competitor — Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders with 26.7. (RELATED: Rick Santorum Says Biden ‘Benefited’ From His Own Bad Debate Performances)

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren comes in at 13.8, with Bloomberg closing in at 12.1. Buttigieg follows with 11.9. (RELATED: Buttigieg Suggests US Bears Some Blame For Iran Blowing Up Airplane)

All the remaining prospects — including several who have either dropped out or never even declared a candidacy such as Oprah Winfrey and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton — rank in single digits.


Another key takeaway, as Bevan notes, is the overall trends. Of the 19 people ranked, only three are showing marked upward trends: Biden, Sanders and Bloomberg.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/10/bloomberg-passes-buttigieg-rcp-betting-odds/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 11, 2020, 03:15:12 AM
What if Bernie wins Iowa and New Hampshire then takes a big share of Nevada and South Carolina?

We could be in for a serious fight between Biden and Bernie here.


Bernie Sanders leads the Iowa Poll for the first time, just weeks before the Iowa caucuses


U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders leads the Democratic field three weeks ahead of Caucus Day in Iowa — narrowly overtaking his closest competitors, who remain locked in a tight contest just behind him.

A new Des Moines Register/CNN/Mediacom Iowa Poll shows 20% of likely Democratic caucusgoers name Sanders as their first choice for president.

After a surge of enthusiasm that pushed Pete Buttigieg to the top of the field in November, the former South Bend, Indiana, mayor has faded, falling 9 percentage points to land behind both Sanders and U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren. Warren is at 17%; Buttigieg, 16%; and former Vice President Joe Biden, 15%.

“There’s no denying that this is a good poll for Bernie Sanders. He leads, but it’s not an uncontested lead,” said pollster J. Ann Selzer, president of Selzer & Co., which conducted the poll. “He’s got a firmer grip on his supporters than the rest of his compatriots.”

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/caucus/2020/01/10/iowa-poll-2020-bernie-sanders-lead-iowa-caucus-president-election/4426492002/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 12, 2020, 02:44:47 PM
The Democrat Party can’t figure out a way to cheat Bernie Sanders out of the nomination.

And they know President Trump will win > 40 states if Bernie is the Democrat candidate.

2020 is a lock for President Trump.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2020, 08:28:51 AM
Spartacus is gone.

https://www.axios.com/cory-booker-drops-out-2020-presidential-race-a8fa2940-9555-4129-9e5a-eea5eceb60d1.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100&fbclid=IwAR3Gjc8aT2aDyYC2SJU2EYlE4cJXMMT3YnLMqXR0cwUim1seFhcoLMMVVP0

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on January 13, 2020, 09:19:11 AM
I really thought he was out already.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 13, 2020, 10:36:44 AM
Spartacus becomes De-partacus
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on January 13, 2020, 12:11:23 PM
Spartacus is gone.

https://www.axios.com/cory-booker-drops-out-2020-presidential-race-a8fa2940-9555-4129-9e5a-eea5eceb60d1.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100&fbclid=IwAR3Gjc8aT2aDyYC2SJU2EYlE4cJXMMT3YnLMqXR0cwUim1seFhcoLMMVVP0



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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 13, 2020, 01:57:52 PM
"Joe Biden is a personal friend of mine, so I’m not here to, you know, to attack him, but my God, if you are, if you’re a Donald Trump and got Biden having voted for the war in Iraq, Biden having voted for these terrible, in my view, trade agreements, Biden having voted for the bankruptcy bill. Trump will eat his lunch,"  - Bernie Sanders


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/477721-democrats-voice-concerns-over-sanders




Dems scared to death of Bernie. He was the first to outright offer to give stuff away for votes so makes sense he wins nomination(again).
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 14, 2020, 01:20:22 PM
Project Veritas: Sanders staffer says 'cities burn' if Trump reelected, predicts violence at DNC




A Project Veritas video released Tuesday showed a man identified as a campaign organizer for Sen. Bernard Sanders, a Democratic presidential candidate, saying “cities burn” if President Trump wins reelection and predicting violence against police at the 2020 Democratic National Convention in Milwaukee.

Asked what would happen if Mr. Trump is reelected, the man described as Sanders campaign field organizer Kyle Jurek said, “F–ing cities burn,” adding, “I mean, we don’t have a lot of time left, we have to save f–ing human civilization.”

In the undercover video, the first in the Project Veritas #Expose2020 series, he also expressed support for reeducating Trump voters and compared them to Nazis; praised Soviet-style gulags, and predicted police would be “beaten” in riots at the party convention.

“We’re going to make 1978 [1968] look like a f–ing Girl Scout f–ing cookout,” he said, adding, “The cops are going to be the ones that are getting f–ing beaten in Milwaukee. They’re going to call out the National Guard for that s—t. I promise you that.”

He was apparently referring to the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago, where police famously clashed with protesters.

“If Bernie doesn’t get the nomination, or it goes to the second round at the DNC convention, f–ing Milwaukee will burn,” Mr. Jurek said. “It’ll start in Milwaukee, and then when the police push back on that, other cities will just f–ing (explosion sound).”


https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/14/project-veritas-sanders-staffer-says-cities-burn-i/

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on January 14, 2020, 02:37:42 PM
Project Veritas: Sanders staffer says 'cities burn' if Trump reelected, predicts violence at DNC




A Project Veritas video released Tuesday showed a man identified as a campaign organizer for Sen. Bernard Sanders, a Democratic presidential candidate, saying “cities burn” if President Trump wins reelection and predicting violence against police at the 2020 Democratic National Convention in Milwaukee.

Asked what would happen if Mr. Trump is reelected, the man described as Sanders campaign field organizer Kyle Jurek said, “F–ing cities burn,” adding, “I mean, we don’t have a lot of time left, we have to save f–ing human civilization.”

In the undercover video, the first in the Project Veritas #Expose2020 series, he also expressed support for reeducating Trump voters and compared them to Nazis; praised Soviet-style gulags, and predicted police would be “beaten” in riots at the party convention.

“We’re going to make 1978 [1968] look like a f–ing Girl Scout f–ing cookout,” he said, adding, “The cops are going to be the ones that are getting f–ing beaten in Milwaukee. They’re going to call out the National Guard for that s—t. I promise you that.”

He was apparently referring to the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago, where police famously clashed with protesters.

“If Bernie doesn’t get the nomination, or it goes to the second round at the DNC convention, f–ing Milwaukee will burn,” Mr. Jurek said. “It’ll start in Milwaukee, and then when the police push back on that, other cities will just f–ing (explosion sound).”


https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/14/project-veritas-sanders-staffer-says-cities-burn-i/




Any comments from our Sage & Reasoned 🤣😂🤣 Leftists on here
We’re Waiting...........
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 14, 2020, 02:51:43 PM

Any comments from our Sage & Reasoned 🤣😂🤣 Leftists on here
We’re Waiting...........

He is basically stating what some of us on here have suspected...if things do not go Sanders' way at the end of a long primary, there is a good chance we are going to see some level of backlash by the far-left Bernie crowd.

Regardless, I expect this content to be weaponized by the Biden campaign, the mainstream media in general and of course, some good old fashioned Trump Twitter counter-punches.

The video was labeled as Part One so it appears James O'Keefe has more content in the can.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on January 14, 2020, 03:13:51 PM
He is basically stating what some of us on here have suspected...if things do not go Sanders' way at the end of a long primary, there is a good chance we are going to see some level of backlash by the far-left Bernie crowd.

Regardless, I expect this content to be weaponized by the Biden campaign, the mainstream media in general and of course, some good old fashioned Trump Twitter counter-punches.

The video was labeled as Part One so it appears James O'Keefe has more content in the can.


Yes - Interesting Times - Part 2 should be Good.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 15, 2020, 09:21:13 AM

CNN’s Van Jones Buries 2020 Field After Debate: ‘Nothing I Saw Tonight Would Be Able to Take Donald Trump Out’

CNN’s Van Jones tonight said he was dispirited by the Democratic debate and that nothing he saw from any of the candidates looked like any of them could beat President Donald Trump.

Jones offered words of praise of Elizabeth Warren, saying “she made the case that women have been winning in the Trump era.”

However, his overall assessment of debate was not as positive:

    “As a progressive, to see those two [Warren and Sanders] have that level of vitriol was very dispiriting. And I want to say that tonight for me was dispiriting. Democrats got to do better than what we saw tonight. There was nothing I saw tonight that would be able to take Donald Trump out, and I want to see a Democrat in the White House as soon as possible.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-van-jones-buries-2020-field-after-debate-nothing-i-saw-tonight-would-be-able-to-take-donald-trump-out/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on January 15, 2020, 10:12:37 AM
If Sanders doesn't get the nomination, his psycho followers will divide the party again.

He's a disgrace sticking with the democrats though, after what they did last primary season.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on January 15, 2020, 11:13:57 AM
I really thought he was out already.

Out of his mind, yes.  Out of the closet?  Not yet.  He needs to grow hair and then braid 'n' cornrow it so he appears "sexual".  'n' sheit. ;D ;)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 15, 2020, 12:38:58 PM
So, now that the impeachment is going to the Senate none of the major dem candidates benefit. You have 3 senators that have to hang around DC and not campaign and Biden who is going to be ground into pulp if they call witnesses/Hunter.

Whole thing is cutting off your nose to spite your face -  and anybody could have seen it except for the rabid radicals in the party - who ARE apparently running things.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on January 15, 2020, 07:22:30 PM
If Sanders doesn't get the nomination, his psycho followers will divide the party again.

He's a disgrace sticking with the democrats though, after what they did last primary season.

Elizabeth Warren went all cun't on him last night.  Fuck her. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 15, 2020, 09:26:14 PM
Elizabeth Warren went all cun't on him last night.  Fuck her. 


She truly represents everything wrong with a modern leftist rolled up into one wrinkly, privileged, stark white papoose.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on January 15, 2020, 11:02:41 PM

She truly represents everything wrong with a modern leftist rolled up into one wrinkly, privileged, stark white papoose.

No, I just think she's being corrupted by the Waserman Schultz/Clintonian wing of the party.  Bernie, whether love him or hate him is the genuine article.  He's my Ron Paul.  Rand is a piece of shit. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on January 15, 2020, 11:13:54 PM
Elizabeth Warren went all cun't on him last night.  Fuck her. 

Not going to elaborate here, but Warren is not someone I find easy to support. Something about her rubs me wrong. Hope she doesn't end up the nominee. If the Democratic nominee is a woman, Amy Klobuchar is who I'd rather it be.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on January 15, 2020, 11:38:52 PM
Not going to elaborate here, but Warren is not someone I find easy to support. Something about her rubs me wrong. Hope she doesn't end up the nominee. If the Democratic nominee is a woman, Amy Klobuchar is who I'd rather it be.

I'd much prefer Warren to Klobuchar. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 16, 2020, 04:18:06 AM
Not going to elaborate here, but Warren is not someone I find easy to support. Something about her rubs me wrong. Hope she doesn't end up the nominee. If the Democratic nominee is a woman, Amy Klobuchar is who I'd rather it be.

Warren is unlikable and phony. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on January 16, 2020, 05:05:09 AM
No, I just think she's being corrupted by the Waserman Schultz/Clintonian wing of the party.  Bernie, whether love him or hate him is the genuine article.  He's my Ron Paul.  Rand is a piece of shit. 

If Bernie was genuine, he'd have run independent after the Democrats rigged the primary.  He got in line.

He's just a politician.

Who, I believe, has authored a total of three things that have passed the floor in 29 years, one being the renaming of a post office.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 16, 2020, 05:07:00 AM
Bernie sanders a freaking communist who has never even held a real job his entire life, EVER.  But yeah, he has all the answers - um ok.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 16, 2020, 06:43:19 AM
A Democrat debate has now become the best comedy on TV.

Followed closely by the MSM libidiot apologists trying to summarize and hype up the over abundance of suck
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on January 16, 2020, 08:34:33 AM
Hilary in the wings waiting for more to drop out before riding to the rescue.

(https://loquendolaxe.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/hillary-the-witch-clinton-cowers.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on January 16, 2020, 12:56:57 PM
I'd much prefer Warren to Klobuchar. 

Well, Klobuchar has a long ways to go before she is a contender in this election. Warren and Sanders could end up splitting the vote. Biden trips over his words so often, I'm beginning to think he has diminished capacity. Buttigieg is intelligent and speaks well. But, he lacks experience. I like Tom Steyer. He could be a one trick pony though. I can't wait for the primaries to begin. This should shake out the possible winners from the losers.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 16, 2020, 02:40:10 PM
Anyone who votes for Pocohontas Warren to be Commander in Chief of the US military is totally detached from reality and hates the country
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on January 16, 2020, 05:33:04 PM
Well, Klobuchar has a long ways to go before she is a contender in this election. Warren and Sanders could end up splitting the vote. Biden trips over his words so often, I'm beginning to think he has diminished capacity. Buttigieg is intelligent and speaks well. But, he lacks experience. I like Tom Steyer. He could be a one trick pony though. I can't wait for the primaries to begin. This should shake out the possible winners from the losers.

I don't trust Pete.  He's very smart, but there is something I don't like.  Is there a term for gays equivalent to "uncle tom" for blacks?  That's the kind of the vibe I get. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 16, 2020, 05:42:24 PM
Warren has a meltdown anytime she gets called out for blatant lies. Biden does the same.

The only one with control of themselves is Bernie. I think even against Trump he could survive the one liners and do better than those other two.

None of them are going to win, though.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 16, 2020, 06:24:43 PM
If Bernie was genuine, he'd have run independent after the Democrats rigged the primary.  He got in line.

He's just a politician.

Who, I believe, has authored a total of three things that have passed the floor in 29 years, one being the renaming of a post office.

The conspiracy theory that's floating around is that Biden and Warren came to some sort of agreement to snipe Bernie's campaign with this allegation a few days before Iowa.

Basically Warrren realized she wasn't going to win the nomination and was angling for a VP spot on Biden's ticket.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 17, 2020, 04:20:28 AM
The conspiracy theory that's floating around is that Biden and Warren came to some sort of agreement to snipe Bernie's campaign with this allegation a few days before Iowa.

Basically Warrren realized she wasn't going to win the nomination and was angling for a VP spot on Biden's ticket.

This sounds right.

I think I finally can see what Bloomberg is thinking. He’s just setting up a ground game and subsequently will hand it over to Biden once the latter gets the nomination. Frankly, I’m not sure how this works as far as campaign finance rules go but it seems like a backdoor way to make a massive donation to the Democratic Party.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on January 17, 2020, 04:24:18 AM
These asspuppets are the swine of Orwell's "Animal Farm".  And they want us to be their plow horses.

Fuck That Noise. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 17, 2020, 04:54:56 AM
This sounds right.

I think I finally can see what Bloomberg is thinking. He’s just setting up a ground game and subsequently will hand it over to Biden once the latter gets the nomination. Frankly, I’m not sure how this works as far as campaign finance rules go but it seems like a backdoor way to make a massive donation to the Democratic Party.

Plus you have the impeachment thing in the background and Warren and Bernie are both senators so there is that factor as well. They potentially find themselves tied up to some extent with that whole cluster-f.

But man, what a way to just rub dog sh*t in the faces of the Bernie supporters. You take this cold blooded angle to sink his campaign and then reward the person who did it with a VP spot. And then you expect them to show up and vote with her on the ticket?

Just ruthless.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on January 17, 2020, 05:01:40 AM
These asspuppets are the swine of Orwell's "Animal Farm".  And they want us to be their plow horses.

Fuck That Noise. 


Well said.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 17, 2020, 05:57:10 AM
Plus you have the impeachment thing in the background and Warren and Bernie are both senators so there is that factor as well. They potentially find themselves tied up to some extent with that whole cluster-f.

But man, what a way to just rub dog sh*t in the faces of the Bernie supporters. You take this cold blooded angle to sink his campaign and then reward the person who did it with a VP spot. And then you expect them to show up and vote with her on the ticket?

Just ruthless.

It speaks volumes about politics and politicians in general. They provide no good or service so they are left with coming up with schemes to keep themselves in power and extract money from the taxpayers.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 17, 2020, 09:16:41 AM
It speaks volumes about politics and politicians in general. They provide no good or service so they are left with coming up with schemes to keep themselves in power and extract money from the taxpayers.

That’s called the Green New Deal.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on January 17, 2020, 05:25:55 PM
Plus you have the impeachment thing in the background and Warren and Bernie are both senators so there is that factor as well. They potentially find themselves tied up to some extent with that whole cluster-f.

But man, what a way to just rub dog sh*t in the faces of the Bernie supporters. You take this cold blooded angle to sink his campaign and then reward the person who did it with a VP spot. And then you expect them to show up and vote with her on the ticket?

Just ruthless.

It blew up in their faces in 2016 and if this scenario plays out, will probably do so again.  I've been a Bernie guy since he was an unknown congressman but I'll do what I consider the right thing and still vote who I think best represents what I believe.  I won't sit it out if he gets fucked over again.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 17, 2020, 05:48:51 PM
This is easy.

With President Trump you know what you get.

And 4 more years of that is infinitely better than 4 years of some unknown Democrat with retarded ideas
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 17, 2020, 05:56:07 PM
It blew up in their faces in 2016 and if this scenario plays out, will probably do so again.  I've been a Bernie guy since he was an unknown congressman but I'll do what I consider the right thing and still vote who I think best represents what I believe.  I won't sit it out if he gets fucked over again.

If you had a 401k that is now. 802k and vote for bernie you have rocks in your head.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on January 17, 2020, 06:32:15 PM
If you had a 401k that is now. 802k and vote for bernie you have rocks in your head.

My 401K continues do well.  Much as it has since Sotero fixed the economy back in say 2010ish.  It would be nice if more than barely half of the country could reap the same benefits.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TacoBell on January 17, 2020, 06:37:15 PM
My 401K continues do well.  Much as it has since Sotero fixed the economy back in say 2010ish.  It would be nice if more than barely half of the country could reap the same benefits.

Are you willing to sacrifice your well-being for theirs?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 17, 2020, 06:41:57 PM
My 401K continues do well.  Much as it has since Sotero fixed the economy back in say 2010ish.  It would be nice if more than barely half of the country could reap the same benefits.



Now THIS is hilarious. You CAN send the govt MORE tax money if you wish so that those who do not have what you have soon will....or maybe you'll just end up with nothing like those who don't do what you do for a income. To say what you just said is totally absent of reality of this world we live in.

Do you really think that people who don't work and invest like you do should have what you do?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on January 17, 2020, 07:42:28 PM


Now THIS is hilarious. You CAN send the govt MORE tax money if you wish so that those who do not have what you have soon will....or maybe you'll just end up with nothing like those who don't do what you do for a income. To say what you just said is totally absent of reality of this world we live in.

Do you really think that people who don't work and invest like you do should have what you do?

45% of the country doesn't have 401K's and I'd guess at a minimum, 92% of the 45% work.  Our govt should reward people that work.  All people that work.  Our bloated as fuck military budget could be better spent on the subject at hand.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on January 17, 2020, 09:14:24 PM
45% of the country doesn't have 401K's and I'd guess at a minimum, 92% of the 45% work.  Our govt should reward people that work.  All people that work.  Our bloated as fuck military budget could be better spent on the subject at hand.
Is it the governments responsibility to provide for people in retirement beyond SS that is already taken from our wages?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on January 17, 2020, 09:34:57 PM
Is it the governments responsibility to provide for people in retirement beyond SS that is already taken from our wages?

Not entirely.  Employers (specifically large corporations) should do their part as well.  As the decades go by, they pay less and less in taxes and share revenues less and less with employees.  Don't forget that one day you will be receiving a SS check as well.  Spare me the "there won't be SS by the time I retire" argument. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 17, 2020, 10:31:08 PM
45% of the country doesn't have 401K's and I'd guess at a minimum, 92% of the 45% work. 



I mean this is just pulled out of your ass right? Haha.

Of that 45% that don't have investments....I'd bet it's closer to 8% actually work than 92%.

It's interesting that about 45% in the USA are also not paying ANY income tax, yet those of us paying the most tax are also saving the most.

Simply put, there will be a close correlation between those that work and those that save/invest. If you apply victimhood to this you are likely a socialist.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on January 18, 2020, 12:57:02 AM


I mean this is just pulled out of your ass right? Haha.

Of that 45% that don't have investments....I'd bet it's closer to 8% actually work than 92%.

It's interesting that about 45% in the USA are also not paying ANY income tax, yet those of us paying the most tax are also saving the most.

Simply put, there will be a close correlation between those that work and those that save/invest. If you apply victimhood to this you are likely a socialist.



How does your 8% (certainly pulled from your ass) square up with unemployment rate of 3.5%? 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on January 18, 2020, 04:51:23 AM
45% of the country doesn't have 401K's and I'd guess at a minimum, 92% of the 45% work.  Our govt should reward people that work.  All people that work.  Our bloated as fuck military budget could be better spent on the subject at hand.

Definitely send in extra money to the IRS so they can distribute it to those in need.  What's stopping you?  Walk the walk.  Live your Socialist philosophy.

On the subject of building wealth...

Get a job.  Get two jobs.  Whatever.

Live cheap. 

If your employer doesn't have a 401k you can still open an IRA and contribute up to $6,000 per year ($7,000 for those 50 and over).

You can also still save and invest in tax efficient index funds if you have even more to invest.

Or you could buy rental real estate and make money that way.

Chinese immigrants come to America and sleep on rice sacks while building a business and become wealthy.

No excuses for lazy people who want Uncle Sugar to support them.

Give up the smartphone and 500 channel cable package and direct it to investment.  Put a TV antenna on the roof for $25.

Instead of a $200 cable/phone bill I have internet for $55/mo, a Tracfone for $8/mo and $25 TV antenna one time cost from eBay.

$63 vs. $200.

There's $130/mo or so there to save and invest.  

Skip takeout and make beans and rice at home.  Make your own coffee in a $10 drip machine instead of buying at Dunkin.

Make some sacrifices today for a better tomorrow.

Read books on investing by John Bogle.  Go to Bogelheads.org.




Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on January 18, 2020, 06:58:25 AM
Definitely send in extra money to the IRS so they can distribute it to those in need.  What's stopping you?  Walk the walk.  Live your Socialist philosophy.

On the subject of building wealth...

Get a job.  Get two jobs.  Whatever.

Live cheap. 

If your employer doesn't have a 401k you can still open an IRA and contribute up to $6,000 per year ($7,000 for those 50 and over).

You can also still save and invest in tax efficient index funds if you have even more to invest.

Or you could buy rental real estate and make money that way.

Chinese immigrants come to America and sleep on rice sacks while building a business and become wealthy.

No excuses for lazy people who want Uncle Sugar to support them.

Give up the smartphone and 500 channel cable package and direct it to investment.  Put a TV antenna on the roof for $25.

Instead of a $200 cable/phone bill I have internet for $55/mo, a Tracfone for $8/mo and $25 TV antenna one time cost from eBay.

$63 vs. $200.

There's $130/mo or so there to save and invest.  

Skip takeout and make beans and rice at home.  Make your own coffee in a $10 drip machine instead of buying at Dunkin.

Make some sacrifices today for a better tomorrow.

Read books on investing by John Bogle.  Go to Bogelheads.org.

Well said. 

People are responsible for themselves.  Americans don't owe anybody, anything, least of all immigrants legal or illegal.

The American Dream was never meant to be a nightmare for those that made it come true for themselves. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 18, 2020, 07:04:36 AM

Great post

Definitely send in extra money to the IRS so they can distribute it to those in need.  What's stopping you?  Walk the walk.  Live your Socialist philosophy.

On the subject of building wealth...

Get a job.  Get two jobs.  Whatever.

Live cheap. 

If your employer doesn't have a 401k you can still open an IRA and contribute up to $6,000 per year ($7,000 for those 50 and over).

You can also still save and invest in tax efficient index funds if you have even more to invest.

Or you could buy rental real estate and make money that way.

Chinese immigrants come to America and sleep on rice sacks while building a business and become wealthy.

No excuses for lazy people who want Uncle Sugar to support them.

Give up the smartphone and 500 channel cable package and direct it to investment.  Put a TV antenna on the roof for $25.

Instead of a $200 cable/phone bill I have internet for $55/mo, a Tracfone for $8/mo and $25 TV antenna one time cost from eBay.

$63 vs. $200.

There's $130/mo or so there to save and invest.  

Skip takeout and make beans and rice at home.  Make your own coffee in a $10 drip machine instead of buying at Dunkin.

Make some sacrifices today for a better tomorrow.

Read books on investing by John Bogle.  Go to Bogelheads.org.





Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on January 18, 2020, 07:09:47 AM
Here's another tip...

If there's no jobs where you live then move where there are jobs.

Life's a bitch.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on January 18, 2020, 08:13:02 AM
Not entirely.  Employers (specifically large corporations) should do their part as well.  As the decades go by, they pay less and less in taxes and share revenues less and less with employees.  Don't forget that one day you will be receiving a SS check as well.  Spare me the "there won't be SS by the time I retire" argument. 
You try so hard to sound condescending it's funny.
I don't agree with the government (my tax dollars) taking care of people in old age, there something about personal responsibility that I can't get over. I do agree about corporations doing their part to support their employees.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 18, 2020, 09:34:23 AM
An employees’ best protection is having the ability to go somewhere else. This requires a dynamic economy with minimal government intervention.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on January 18, 2020, 07:38:29 PM
You try so hard to sound condescending it's funny.
I don't agree with the government (my tax dollars) taking care of people in old age, there something about personal responsibility that I can't get over. I do agree about corporations doing their part to support their employees.

Not condescending. You're insecure. The old people that you are taking care of have paid into the system. Just like you'll be taken care of one day. You try so hard to sound like a cold hearted prick that it's funny considering you wear a skirt.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 19, 2020, 04:45:14 AM
Not condescending. You're insecure. The old people that you are taking care of have paid into the system. Just like you'll be taken care of one day. You try so hard to sound like a cold hearted prick that it's funny considering you wear a skirt.

This is true^  They paid out to help others, now its their turn. Us old folks need to start thinking about retirement and SS.  ;)

So glad I opened 401K's 30+ years ago, couldn't imagine retirement w/out them...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 19, 2020, 04:50:03 AM
Definitely send in extra money to the IRS so they can distribute it to those in need.  What's stopping you?  Walk the walk.  Live your Socialist philosophy.

On the subject of building wealth...

Get a job.  Get two jobs.  Whatever.

Live cheap. 

If your employer doesn't have a 401k you can still open an IRA and contribute up to $6,000 per year ($7,000 for those 50 and over).

You can also still save and invest in tax efficient index funds if you have even more to invest.

Or you could buy rental real estate and make money that way.

Chinese immigrants come to America and sleep on rice sacks while building a business and become wealthy.

No excuses for lazy people who want Uncle Sugar to support them.

Give up the smartphone and 500 channel cable package and direct it to investment.  Put a TV antenna on the roof for $25.

Instead of a $200 cable/phone bill I have internet for $55/mo, a Tracfone for $8/mo and $25 TV antenna one time cost from eBay.

$63 vs. $200.

There's $130/mo or so there to save and invest.  

Skip takeout and make beans and rice at home.  Make your own coffee in a $10 drip machine instead of buying at Dunkin.

Make some sacrifices today for a better tomorrow.

Read books on investing by John Bogle.  Go to Bogelheads.org.


Epic post!  Really good^^^
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 19, 2020, 10:48:06 AM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on January 20, 2020, 01:21:16 PM
Not condescending. You're insecure. .
LMFAO!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Not condescending. You're insecure. The old people that you are taking care of have paid into the system. Just like you'll be taken care of one day. You try so hard to sound like a cold hearted prick that it's funny considering you wear a skirt.
Those pics were for his eyes only!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on January 20, 2020, 04:31:09 PM
The New York Times Endorses Elizabeth Warren And Amy Klobuchar
The newspaper shocked with two notable endorsements just weeks before the Iowa caucus, the first Democratic primary vote.
By Carla Herreria and Nick Visser
01/19/2020
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/new-york-times-endorses-warren-klobuchar_n_5e221f23c5b673621f760144
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 20, 2020, 05:26:11 PM
The candidates this time around are just SO good they had to name two.  :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 20, 2020, 05:42:13 PM
An employees’ best protection is having the ability to go somewhere else. This requires a dynamic economy with minimal government intervention.

Not true.

Wouldn’t an employee’s best protection be that they’re the hardest working and lowest paid in their office ?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on January 20, 2020, 06:06:04 PM
Not true.

Wouldn’t an employee’s best protection be that they’re the hardest working and lowest paid in their office ?

Don't forget best ass-kisser.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 21, 2020, 10:19:09 AM
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/hillary-clinton-full-a-fiery-new-documentary-trump-regrets-harsh-words-bernie-1271551

Hillary trashed ole Bernie. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on January 21, 2020, 10:24:05 AM
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/hillary-clinton-full-a-fiery-new-documentary-trump-regrets-harsh-words-bernie-1271551

Hillary trashed ole Bernie. 

Hillary saying “Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him“ and accusing Bernie of being a career politician... Has she looked in the mirror?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 21, 2020, 10:31:19 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 21, 2020, 10:35:42 AM
;)

Is that a recent quote?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 21, 2020, 10:49:13 AM
Hillary saying “Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him“ and accusing Bernie of being a career politician... Has she looked in the mirror?

Seems like it’s all hands on deck to harpoon Bernie.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 21, 2020, 11:13:48 AM
Another Bernie organizer is on tape talking about gulags and taking the rich to guillotines.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 21, 2020, 11:21:36 AM
Seems like it’s all hands on deck to harpoon Bernie.

He is an idiot and a moron - and a communist.  His idiotic agenda is unworkable, childish, and pie in the sky idiocy tailor made for the millenial loser demographic
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on January 21, 2020, 11:39:54 AM
Hillary Clinton on Bernie Sanders: 'Nobody likes him' — herself included

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In an upcoming Hulu documentary, Clinton claims Sanders has no allies in Congress.

“Nobody likes him,” Clinton says. “Nobody wants to work with him; he got nothing done. He was a career politician. It’s all just baloney, and I feel so bad that people got sucked into it.”

In an interview with the Hollywood Reporter published Tuesday, Clinton was asked if that assessment still holds.

“Yes, it does,” she replied.

“It’s not only him,” Clinton continued. “It’s the culture around him. It’s his leadership team. It’s his prominent supporters. It’s his online Bernie Bros and their relentless attacks on lots of his competitors, particularly the women.”

She added: “I really hope people are paying attention to that, because it should be worrisome that he has permitted this culture — not only permitted, [but he] seems to really be very much supporting it.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-nobody-likes-him-144423210.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on January 21, 2020, 11:51:28 AM
Seems like it’s all hands on deck to harpoon Bernie.

They want to kick out old man Bernie to make way for the youth like Biden and Warren.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 21, 2020, 11:53:25 AM
They want to kick out old man Bernie to make way for the youth like Biden and Warren.

They know Trump would absolutely blaster bernie like its Reagan Mondale
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on January 21, 2020, 12:24:17 PM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 21, 2020, 02:50:50 PM
Another Bernie organizer is on tape talking about gulags and taking the rich to guillotines.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on January 21, 2020, 02:57:55 PM
Fixed:

Bridget Hillary loves hates Bernie

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on January 21, 2020, 06:14:40 PM
Hillary saying “Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him“ and accusing Bernie of being a career politician... Has she looked in the mirror?

Maybe she shouldn't point fingers and maybe she feels free to make that statement because she isn't one of the candidates for the 2020 Presidential election.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on January 21, 2020, 08:04:48 PM
They know Trump would absolutely blaster bernie like its Reagan Mondale

It would be much closer than you are willing to admit.  In 2016, Bernie would have done better than Hilary.  Michigan, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania may have looked differently. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on January 21, 2020, 08:10:50 PM
It would be much closer than you are willing to admit.  In 2016, Bernie would have done better than Hilary.  Michigan, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania may have looked differently. 

I think not.  I cannot imagine there are that many morons in our Nation.  That many lazy, fucked up on drugs, worthless twatlings that are eligible to vote.  No one really THINKS that the cucktard Dems are worthy of leading our Nation.  Some may FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEL that way, but that is not thinking. 

Fuck That Noise.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on January 21, 2020, 08:15:05 PM
I think not.  I cannot imagine there are that many morons in our Nation.  That many lazy, fucked up on drugs, worthless twatlings that are eligible to vote.  No one really THINKS that the cucktard Dems are worthy of leading our Nation.  Some may FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEL that way, but that is not thinking. 

Fuck That Noise.

So you think it would be 49-1 Trump over Bernie?  You are smarter than that.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on January 21, 2020, 08:19:55 PM
So you think it would be 49-1 Trump over Bernie?  You are smarter than that.

Were did you read me saying that?

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on January 21, 2020, 08:23:21 PM
Were did you read me saying that?



Soulcrusher predicted a Reagan v Mondale type outcome.  I merely stated it would be closer than you are willing to admit with which you vehemently disagreed.  If Bernie were to merely win to states it would be closer than Reagan v Mondale. 

I think my team may have missed their opportunity in 2016 by running Hilary.  I do believe Bernie would have done better than her in Wisc, Mich & Penn.  Bernie v Trump in 2020 I'd give slight edge to the pussy grabber but think it would be closer than 2016 with Hilary.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on January 21, 2020, 08:29:45 PM
Soulcrusher predicted a Reagan v Mondale type outcome.  I merely stated it would be closer than you are willing to admit with which you vehemently disagreed.  If Bernie were to merely win to states it would be closer than Reagan v Mondale. 

I think my team may have missed their opportunity in 2016 by running Hilary.  I do believe Bernie would have done better than her in Wisc, Mich & Penn.  Bernie v Trump in 2020 I'd give slight edge to the pussy grabber but think it would be closer than 2016 with Hilary.

In other words, I didn't say that.  Did I?  Nope.   ;D
No hard feelings, brother.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on January 21, 2020, 08:55:29 PM
In other words, I didn't say that.  Did I?  Nope.   ;D
No hard feelings, brother.

Same here.  Feel the Bern!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 21, 2020, 08:55:38 PM
The days of Reagan/Mondale results are likely a thing of the past because of the political division in this country but Trump v. Bernie?

Just wait until Bernie gets on stage with Trump and tries to explain taking away private insurance from millions and millions of Americans who are happy with their insurance. Replacing that with some shitty government program. On that alone he is doomed.

Wait until Bernie tries to explain giving benefits to people who are here illegally.

Trump wins Ohio and Florida easily. He takes Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Nevada, Minnesota, New Mexico and Maine are also in play for Trump if he is matched up versus Bernie.

People get tricked into this internet bubble but that is so far removed from the average person who leans left but just shake their heads at this guy's platform.

I know Democrats personally who tell me they will begrudgingly pull the lever for Biden but absolutely detest Bernie and his snake oil salesman nonsense.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 21, 2020, 09:47:52 PM
Read this article on the "Biden 5" and tell me this guy is the dem candidate.

This is no different than the Bush/Cheney profiteering in the Middle East except the mainstream news fails to cover it.



https://nypost.com/2020/01/18/how-five-members-of-joe-bidens-family-got-rich-through-his-connections/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 21, 2020, 10:17:42 PM
Biden continues to appear senile and unsteady.

The MSM takes old communist Bernie out.

And Hillary jumps back into the race with Michelle Obozo as VP
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Pray_4_War on January 21, 2020, 10:51:56 PM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 22, 2020, 08:20:33 PM
"CNN poll: Bernie Sanders surges to join Biden atop Democratic presidential pack"


https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/22/politics/cnn-poll-sanders-biden-january-national/index.html




Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 24, 2020, 07:19:37 AM
"CNN poll: Bernie Sanders surges to join Biden atop Democratic presidential pack"


https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/22/politics/cnn-poll-sanders-biden-january-national/index.html






New Emerson poll showing Bernie in a statistical tie with Biden.

He is surging at the exact correct time.

I think this is about to get really interesting.

Biden, Sanders Are Running Neck and Neck in Nationwide Poll

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Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders lead the Democratic field in a national poll released Thursday.

The 7 News/Emerson College Poll shows the former vice president with 30% support, followed closely by the Vermont senator at 27%.

The rest of the field is much farther down, with Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren at 13% and entrepreneur Andrew Yang at 8%. Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, the founder and majority owner of Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg News, is at 7% and former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg at 6%.

The poll of 497 Democratic primary voters nationwide was conducted from Jan. 21-23. This portion of the poll has a margin of error of 4.1 percentage points.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-24/biden-sanders-are-running-neck-and-neck-in-nationwide-poll
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 24, 2020, 09:00:18 AM
Bernie’s ground game is strong. I’ve seen people on the street campaigning for him.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 24, 2020, 09:45:22 AM
Bernie’s ground game is strong. I’ve seen people on the street campaigning for him.

At the same time you have campaign managers shutting down their online accounts after the Veritas videos.

And the mainstream media hasn't really started to ramp up their attacks.

Regardless, he is still looking very strong.

The most delicious scenario would be the superdelegates screw Bernie in Milwaukee.

Get your popcorn ready for that one, talk about throwing gasoline on a fire. Heads will roll.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on January 24, 2020, 11:11:19 AM
Mainstream media ignoring the Veritas stuff is just wrong.

It will get more traction should he be the nominee.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Princess L on January 24, 2020, 11:40:26 AM
Mainstream media ignoring the Veritas stuff is just wrong.

It will get more traction should he be the nominee.

Is this what you're referring to?


https://www.commdiginews.com/politics-2/project-veritas-sanders-organizer-if-bernie-loses-milwaukee-will-burn-126215/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 24, 2020, 02:13:57 PM
Bernie’s ground game is strong. I’ve seen people on the street campaigning for him.


I saw an emo chick at the nearby(very rural) grocery store with a Bernie shirt on. He has the student vote.

They will have to Scalia him or slander him to not have him get the nomination. None of these candidates have the pull that Hillary did to fix the outcome.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on January 24, 2020, 03:56:19 PM
If the young people vote.

Usually they don't.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 24, 2020, 04:59:44 PM
The Democrats are in full panic mode.

Impeachment will backfire in a massive way

They don’t have an electable candidate.

They can’t beat Bernie.

And having Barack Obozo trash Bernie is only going to help Sanders.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on January 24, 2020, 05:32:36 PM
Bernie’s ground game is strong. I’ve seen people on the street campaigning for him.

Is that before or after they poop on the sidewalk?   ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 24, 2020, 08:38:18 PM

Is this what you're referring to?


https://www.commdiginews.com/politics-2/project-veritas-sanders-organizer-if-bernie-loses-milwaukee-will-burn-126215/

I posted the videos in this thread a few days ago but all 3 parts are available on the YouTube channel "Project Veritas Action"
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 25, 2020, 01:43:05 PM
Is that before or after they poop on the sidewalk?   ;D

As said, they’re dopey college age kids with no life experience.

Conversely, Biden’s base is ancient but they show up at the polls. So, I still think Biden will get the nod.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 25, 2020, 04:14:27 PM
Not only is President Trump unbeatable on the Republican side, he has steered the Democrats so far left that they have lost control of the party to Bernie Sanders and AOC.

President Trump will steer Bernie Sanders into the nomination and then crush him in November.

Bernie will realize he’s unelectable and turn the party and his supporters over to AOC. The DNC will be extinct and the party will become full blown socialists
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on January 25, 2020, 05:32:43 PM
Not only is President Trump unbeatable on the Republican side, he has steered the Democrats so far left that they have lost control of the party to Bernie Sanders and AOC.

President Trump will steer Bernie Sanders into the nomination and then crush him in November.

Bernie will realize he’s unelectable and turn the party and his supporters over to AOC. The DNC will be extinct and the party will become full blown socialists
I see democrats splitting the party up, the moderates will separate themselves from the socialists soon.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 25, 2020, 05:52:57 PM
I see democrats splitting the party up, the moderates will separate themselves from the socialists soon.

The thing is...the liberal socialists outnumber the moderates.

The Democrat Party has become the party of hypocrisy and stupidity

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 25, 2020, 07:15:14 PM
The thing is...the liberal socialists outnumber the moderates.

The Democrat Party has become the party of hypocrisy and stupidity





If you think about it the dem/left is usually a labor based party....what kind of party is it when there is not the usual amount of labor people to vote?

Bernie and AOC have ushered in the age of the neo-liberal AKA a socialist party of freaks and have nots and those too stupid to understand how to vote in their own interests.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 25, 2020, 07:47:06 PM

If you think about it the dem/left is usually a labor based party....what kind of party is it when there is not the usual amount of labor people to vote?

Bernie and AOC have ushered in the age of the neo-liberal AKA a socialist party of freaks and have nots and those too stupid to understand how to vote in their own interests.

The Democrats once were the party of minorities, unions, big government, and the welfare state.

Now they are the party of corrupt socialists, people looking for free handouts, and the losers from the  crooked Obama incompetence decade.

God bless President Donald Trump for exposing all of this and for making America great again
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 26, 2020, 04:57:04 AM
Bloomberg just passed Buttigieg in the RCP aggregate (7.5 to 7.0)

That appears to be a wrap for Mayor Pete.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 26, 2020, 05:28:31 AM
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Bernie Sanders, stuck in Trump's trial, leans on star power of 'AOC'


CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa (Reuters) - U.S. presidential candidate Bernie Sanders drew large, passionate crowds in Iowa this weekend, even when he was not there.

The U.S. Senator from Vermont has been rising in opinion polls just as Iowans prepare to pick their choice of Democratic presidential nominee on Feb. 3, but has been stuck in Washington, where he is serving as a juror in Republican President Donald Trump’s impeachment trial.

In lieu of the candidate himself, Sanders supporter Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a first term U.S. congresswoman from New York, has proven almost as much of a draw, filling rallies and town halls and galvanizing members of what she called a “mass movement” led by Sanders to push progressive politics.

“It doesn’t rely on any one person to carry this whole movement on their back. We all shoulder a little,” she told a group of volunteers going out to canvass for Sanders in Cedar Rapids on Saturday morning.

The strong turnout for Sanders even in his absence underscores the strength of his young and diverse base of supporters, who have rallied behind his unapologetic liberalism. But it also shows as much enthusiasm for 30-year-old Ocasio-Cortez, who became a star of U.S. left-wing politics after being elected to the House of Representatives in 2018.

Interviews with a dozen prospective caucus-goers over two days showed her backing had lent Sanders a degree of youth appeal and bolstered his progressive credentials, especially on Ocasio-Cortez’s signature issue of tackling climate change.

Sanders, proposing tax hikes for the wealthy and corporations to fund measures such as universal government-run healthcare and tuition-free college, is rising just as the first voting nears, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll this week, polling at 20% and just behind Joe Biden, the front-runner and former vice president.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-sanders/bernie-sanders-stuck-in-trumps-trial-leans-on-star-power-of-aoc-idUSKBN1ZP0DW
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 27, 2020, 06:16:45 AM
In early states, oddmakers are betting on Sanders

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Winning both Iowa and New Hampshire doesn’t guarantee the nomination, but every major-party candidate who’s done it has gone on to become their party’s pick for president. And right now, those odds look very good for Sen. Bernie Sanders.

According to Oddschecker.com, a British-based betting site, oddsmakers have picked Sanders as the favorite in three of the first four contests: Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada. South Carolina is the one state where Bernie’s in the back of the pack. Sanders odds are particularly strong in New Hampshire where, according to the website, the state “looks almost certain to go to Sanders as his current price of -175 is indicative of a 63.60% chance.”

Betting on political contests is both legal and common in Britain, where they closely follow American politics. The oddsmakers give Sanders a better shot than the current polling averages from RealClearPolitics and FiveThirtyEight, but they aren’t far off.

https://www.newsday.com/opinion/commentary/bernie-sanders-democratic-primaries-2020-election-trump-1.40926548
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on January 27, 2020, 07:19:54 AM
I have An0maly on my twitter follow - he's a younger guy, rapper, and conservative.

He does a good job explaining the Sanders appeal.
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 27, 2020, 07:24:42 AM
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Bernie Sanders, stuck in Trump's trial, leans on star power of 'AOC'



"Star Power", hysterical. Look how demented libtards are, need some sort of "SJW Superhero" to lead t hem into ruins.
Trump's a 'grumpy, fly off the cuff' kind of tard who makes them melt down hard, which is also comical.

Bernie, an aged, crazed old geezer, who never worked in his life, only sucked off the system, yeah, a true country leader.  ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on January 27, 2020, 08:01:04 AM
Lying SOB.

Defending Long Career, Biden Has Sometimes Stretched the Truth

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/defending-long-career-biden-sometimes-130955349.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 27, 2020, 06:11:18 PM
ments.

Elizabeth Warren’s Daughter Amelia Piggybacked off Mom to Cash In on Corporate Contracts (WARNING: Eye-gouging photo at link)
Breitbart ^ | 27 Jan 2020 | Hannah Bleau
Posted on 1/27/2020, 7:35:19 PM by E. Pluribus Unum

Amelia Warren Tyagi, daughter of Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), piggybacked off her mother to cash in on corporate clients for her new company during the presidential hopeful’s time chairing the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) oversight committee, Government Accountability Institute (GAI) president and Breitbart News senior contributor Peter Schweizer reveals in his investigative book, Profiles in Corruption: Abuse of Power by America’s Progressive Elite.

Profiles in Corruption details how Warren’s daughter, Amelia, demonstratively benefited from her mother’s position of power, using Warren’s influence to grow the company she co-founded in 2007.

Amelia, alongside business partner Jody Greenstone Miller, founded the Business Talent Group (BTG) in 2007, “a temp firm for specialized and highly skilled employees.” The business played a role in what has been dubbed the “gig economy,” centralized around independent contractors and part-time workers. In other words, “people are hired for part-time jobs rather than full-time employment” — something Warren has railed against.

BTG did not have a smooth start. As Profiles in Corruption points out, temp businesses are “largely about corporate connections” — connections which exploded after Warren landed her job as the chair of the TARP oversight committee, which “played a central role in the federal government’s bailout of financial firms”:

In its early years, the firm struggled. Executives admitted that they had to be “extremely resourceful” in order to find new business. Executive recruitment and the temp business are largely about corporate connections. As Clare Malone of the Daily Beast pointed out, BTG is “a hybrid headhunting and consulting firm— industries whose bread and butter is leveraging connections.” Now they appeared to have some in abundance.

Former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) called Warren, knowing her reputation, during the financial crisis in 2008, asking her to serve as chair of the congressional oversight...

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 27, 2020, 08:50:20 PM
I have An0maly on my twitter follow - he's a younger guy, rapper, and conservative.

He does a good job explaining the Sanders appeal.
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Yeah I can vouch for An0maly, I used to listen to him quite a bit but haven't in quite some time. Only so much time in the day I guess.

"Star Power", hysterical. Look how demented libtards are, need some sort of "SJW Superhero" to lead t hem into ruins.
Trump's a 'grumpy, fly off the cuff' kind of tard who makes them melt down hard, which is also comical.

Bernie, an aged, crazed old geezer, who never worked in his life, only sucked off the system, yeah, a true country leader.  ::)

That's why I question how much he really even wants to be President.

An 80 year old, post heart attack, lazy, life long socialist is all of the sudden going to be putting all the hours in and dealing with the stress that the presidency brings? I say it's a 50/50 proposition whether he would even make it out of his first term alive.

Aside from all that though...I think I read that you worked for UPS?

Those guys have some pretty good insurance I would imagine. How is that going to go over with the Union voting bloc when Bernie suggests switching their blue chip insurance with some government program bullshit?

And we are not even getting into the optics of Bernie on stage with Trump. Bernie backed down like a little bitch to Hillary and Joe Biden. What is Trump going to do to him on stage and during the course of the campaign??
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on January 27, 2020, 08:52:17 PM
This is what’s happening across our country. By Saul Alinsky.

1) Healthcare--Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty--Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor
people are easier to control and will not fight back if you
are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt--Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are
able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control--Remove the ability to defend themselves from the
government. That way you are able to create a
police state.

5) Welfare--Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing,
and Income)

6) Education--Take control of what people read and listen to--take
control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion--Remove the belief in the God from the Government and
schools.

8) Class Warfare--Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor.
This will cause more discontent and it will be easier
to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 27, 2020, 11:51:14 PM
This one here is to secure the whole enchilada. The Democratic nomination.

You have to believe that Bernie is going to have significant turnout with all this talk of his solid ground game.

Steady, reliable lifelong Democrat Boomers versus plugged in social media savvy Gen-X'rs and Milennials...

Is Joe Biden's campaign in serious risk??


Bernie Sanders just passed Joe Biden for the first time in a political betting poll



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Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders recently surpassed former Vice President Joe Biden in a poll on the popular political betting site PredictIt for the first time, just days ahead of the first caucus for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination.

Sanders led in the poll with a 39% chance of winning the nomination, while Biden followed at 34%. People on the site buy shares corresponding with the polls, so a share trading at 39 cents corresponds with a 39% chance.

The bets correlate with Sanders' rise in recent national and statewide polls that show him in line with or leading against Biden.

Former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg comes in third on the betting site at 14 cents per share, while Sen. Elizabeth Warren and businessman Andrew Yang are tied for fourth at 7 cents.

In bets for state caucuses, Sanders surpassed Iowa frontrunner Pete Buttigieg in December and held a steady lead in a New Hampshire bet.


PredictIt is run by Victoria University in New Zealand for educational purposes, according to its website, which says it uses real money to give users some stake in their bets and improve the research value of the bets — and because "real money is fun."

https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-passes-joe-biden-first-time-betting-polling-predictit-2020-1
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on January 28, 2020, 04:09:13 AM
The campaign manager for former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg warned in a new interview that Democrats will be headed to an electoral disaster if they nominate Bernie Sanders to run against President Trump.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kevin-skeekey-bloomberg-skullduggery-193740875.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 28, 2020, 08:26:57 AM
#Expose2020 Part IV: Two More Bernie Staffers Promote "Extreme Action" and Property Destruction





Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 28, 2020, 09:01:20 AM
33386 I know you are loving this headline  ;D

Hillary Clinton admits she feels an ‘urge’ to run against Trump again

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Nearly four years after President Trump defeated her in the 2016 election, Hillary Clinton said she has an “urge” to run again because she thinks she can win this time.

The former secretary of state was asked during an interview with Variety if she ever thought “I could beat Donald Trump if I were running.”

“Yeah. I certainly feel the urge because I feel the 2016 election was a really odd time and an odd outcome,” she told the magazine in an interview published online Monday.

“And the more we learn, the more that seems to be the case. But I’m going to support the people who are running now and do everything I can to help elect the Democratic nominee.”

The interview took place in Park City, Utah, where the former senator from New York is promoting a documentary, “Hillary,” that debuted at the Sundance Film Festival.

In a separate interview, Clinton said a lot has changed since 2016 when Trump won the presidency despite being a political novice.

“I think there’s a story now to be told. Before he was a blank slate. He was a guy that people saw on their TVs. As you know, he was a reality TV star,” Clinton said, according to the Associated Press. “Now I think there’s a record that he’s going to have to be held accountable for.”

Clinton topped Trump in the popular vote by nearly 3 million, but he won the Electoral College vote 304-227.

She said “the person who gets the most votes should win” and supports abolishing the Electoral College.

“The Electoral College is an anachronism that foils the rights of the majority of Americans to choose our leaders.”

In the Variety interview, Clinton also responded to the criticism she received when a clip from the documentary showed her saying she wouldn’t endorse Sen. Bernie Sanders if he wins the Democratic nomination this year.

https://nypost.com/2020/01/28/hillary-clinton-admits-she-feels-an-urge-to-run-against-trump-again/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 28, 2020, 09:16:14 AM
Run Hill RUN!    Go for it!   

33386 I know you are loving this headline  ;D

Hillary Clinton admits she feels an ‘urge’ to run against Trump again

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Nearly four years after President Trump defeated her in the 2016 election, Hillary Clinton said she has an “urge” to run again because she thinks she can win this time.

The former secretary of state was asked during an interview with Variety if she ever thought “I could beat Donald Trump if I were running.”

“Yeah. I certainly feel the urge because I feel the 2016 election was a really odd time and an odd outcome,” she told the magazine in an interview published online Monday.

“And the more we learn, the more that seems to be the case. But I’m going to support the people who are running now and do everything I can to help elect the Democratic nominee.”

The interview took place in Park City, Utah, where the former senator from New York is promoting a documentary, “Hillary,” that debuted at the Sundance Film Festival.

In a separate interview, Clinton said a lot has changed since 2016 when Trump won the presidency despite being a political novice.

“I think there’s a story now to be told. Before he was a blank slate. He was a guy that people saw on their TVs. As you know, he was a reality TV star,” Clinton said, according to the Associated Press. “Now I think there’s a record that he’s going to have to be held accountable for.”

Clinton topped Trump in the popular vote by nearly 3 million, but he won the Electoral College vote 304-227.

She said “the person who gets the most votes should win” and supports abolishing the Electoral College.

“The Electoral College is an anachronism that foils the rights of the majority of Americans to choose our leaders.”

In the Variety interview, Clinton also responded to the criticism she received when a clip from the documentary showed her saying she wouldn’t endorse Sen. Bernie Sanders if he wins the Democratic nomination this year.

https://nypost.com/2020/01/28/hillary-clinton-admits-she-feels-an-urge-to-run-against-trump-again/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 28, 2020, 09:49:15 AM
Sanders supporters fume as Clinton allies named to key Dem convention committees
FOX ^ | 1-28-18 | Paul Steinhauser
Posted on 1/28/2020, 12:27:08

Supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders' White House bid and some Democratic National Committee members are frustrated with some initial appointments made by DNC Chairman Tom Perez to the crucial committees that will oversee the rules and party platform at this summer’s presidential nominating convention in Milwaukee, Wis.

Their frustration comes after Perez named former Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts – who was a surrogate for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign -- as co-chair of the convention’s Rules Committee. And Perez picked John Podesta – who served as Clinton’s 2016 campaign manager – to have a seat on the committee.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 28, 2020, 10:23:38 AM
Sanders supporters fume as Clinton allies named to key Dem convention committees
FOX ^ | 1-28-18 | Paul Steinhauser
Posted on 1/28/2020, 12:27:08

Supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders' White House bid and some Democratic National Committee members are frustrated with some initial appointments made by DNC Chairman Tom Perez to the crucial committees that will oversee the rules and party platform at this summer’s presidential nominating convention in Milwaukee, Wis.

Their frustration comes after Perez named former Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts – who was a surrogate for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign -- as co-chair of the convention’s Rules Committee. And Perez picked John Podesta – who served as Clinton’s 2016 campaign manager – to have a seat on the committee.

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It's so obvious that they want nothing to do with Bernie and despise his supporters.

Wait until Super Tuesday passes and Bernie and Biden are still neck and neck. It will go thermo-nuclear war level infighting at that point.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 28, 2020, 11:52:15 AM
Protesters Arrested at Joe Biden’s Des Moines Campaign Office



DES MOINES, Iowa – Five people were arrested Monday night after they refused to leave the Des Moines campaign office of presidential candidate Joe Biden.

According to the Des Moines Police Department, officers were called to the office at 2411 Grand Ave. at 7:13 p.m. because about two-dozen protesters had entered the campaign’s field office and were refusing to leave.


Once officers arrived, several of the protesters did leave the premises but six people remained and were arrested:

John Reardon, 22 years old, resident of Clive
Michael McKinley, 68 years old, resident of Des Moines
William Floyd, 22 years old, resident of Des Moines
Denise Cheeseman, 21 years old, resident of Iowa City
Kiran Loewenstein, 19 years old, resident of Grinnell
They face a charge of criminal trespassing. They were released at the scene after the arrest, with a summons to appear in court.


https://whotv.com/2020/01/28/protesters-arrested-at-joe-bidens-des-moines-campaign-office/


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 28, 2020, 12:12:10 PM
Joe Biden’s Sister Valerie Sent Millions of Joe’s Campaign Dollars to Her Own Consulting Firm
Breitbart News ^ | 1/28/2020 | Hannah Bleau
Posted on 01/28/2020 11:55:18 AM PST

Valerie Biden Owens, the sister of former vice president Joe Biden (D), who served as the campaign manager for his past presidential campaigns, directed $2.5 million from “Citizens for Biden” and “Biden for President Inc.” to her own consulting firm during her brother’s 2008 presidential bid alone, Breitbart senior contributor and Government Accountability Institute (GAI) President Peter Schweizer’s investigative blockbuster Profiles in Corruption: Abuse of Power by America’s Progressive Elite reveals.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on January 28, 2020, 12:21:35 PM
Yeah I can vouch for An0maly, I used to listen to him quite a bit but haven't in quite some time. Only so much time in the day I guess.

That's why I question how much he really even wants to be President.

An 80 year old, post heart attack, lazy, life long socialist is all of the sudden going to be putting all the hours in and dealing with the stress that the presidency brings? I say it's a 50/50 proposition whether he would even make it out of his first term alive.

Aside from all that though...I think I read that you worked for UPS?

Those guys have some pretty good insurance I would imagine. How is that going to go over with the Union voting bloc when Bernie suggests switching their blue chip insurance with some government program bullshit?

And we are not even getting into the optics of Bernie on stage with Trump. Bernie backed down like a little bitch to Hillary and Joe Biden. What is Trump going to do to him on stage and during the course of the campaign??

Yup. Bernie is 5 years older than Trump. Every day counts when you get to be our age.  ::)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 28, 2020, 12:35:14 PM
OPINION

Bernie Sanders isn't a ‘democratic socialist’ — he's an all-out Marxist
by Giancarlo Sopo
 | January 25, 2020 07:00 AM
 






If recent polls are any indication, Sen. Bernie Sanders is surging in the race for the 2020 Democratic nomination. According to a CNN poll out this week, the Vermont independent has reached a statistical tie with Joe Biden for first place nationally. In New Hampshire, meanwhile, a WBUR survey shows the self-described democratic socialist with a 12-point lead. Polls vary, but Sanders is clearly winning over many Democratic primary voters.

The senator’s growing appeal ought to be disconcerting to us all, because Sanders is not the nice, Nordic-style “democratic socialist” he claims to be. At his core, Sanders is almost certainly an all-out Marxist.

His rise clearly troubles establishment Democrats who are uneasy with his far-left agenda. Among Sanders’s most notable detractors are mainstream Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. The former president, for instance, is reported to be so “anxious” about Sanders’s standing that he’s contemplating publicly repudiating him (although some Obama allies deny this account).

Obama and Clinton may have unwittingly contributed to Sanders’s rise, but they are right to be concerned. The man has no business being anywhere near the Oval Office — not even on a guided tour. The fact that the socialist senator is considered a national leader is a disgraceful blemish on the Democratic Party, a party once comprised by men such as John F. Kennedy, who fought communists, while Sanders defended them.

At every stage in his adult life, Sanders has been an unabashed apologist for communism, an evil ideology with a body count of 100 million people dead in its wake. A cursory examination of this record should disqualify Sanders from public office:

While people such as my grandfather were languishing as political prisoners in Cuba, Sanders said that he was so “excited” about the island’s communist revolution that watching JFK get tough on Fidel Castro made him want to “puke.”

In 1980, as most prominent democratic socialists criticized Iran’s taking of American hostages, Sanders joined a Trotskyist revolutionary party that defended the Islamic regime’s actions.

When the United States was containing communism in Central America, Sanders flew to Nicaragua to lend credibility to the Sandinistas.
The 78-year-old presidential candidate even honeymooned in the Soviet Union and came back full of praise for it. Some may not grasp how bizarre this was during the Cold War, but, at the time, it was almost unheard of to do such a thing.

Despite his lifelong fascination with communism, not once did Sanders have the decency to meet Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, a renowned Soviet dissident who lived in Vermont.

Some have tried tricking voters into believing that Sanders is the American version of Nordic-style socialist democrats. This isn’t true.

The Nordics actually enjoy somewhat free-market economies. Conversely, Sanders’s platform, which openly calls for nationalizing major industries such as higher education, healthcare, and even the internet, falls well outside the mainstream of U.S. politics and more closely resembles the central planning committees in Cuba and Venezuela.

Rather than drawing philosophical distinctions without practical differences, Democrats need to accept the fact that Sanders is an unrepentant Marxist. They must confront the forces within their party that enabled his ascent, such as unchecked liberalism.

Conservatives, meanwhile, should follow President Trump’s lead and denounce Sanders and his ideology in striking moral terms. As for voters, well, throughout his life, Sanders has made it clear who he really is, so they should take him at his word.

Giancarlo Sopo (@GiancarloSopo) is a writer at TheBlaze and was a 2019 regional fellow at the National Review Institute. He is a contributor to the Washington Examiner’s Beltway Confidential blog.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 29, 2020, 04:32:11 PM
Biden has issues....a main one, he is tired of hearing from radical dems and doesn't understand his own party has moved WAY left of him:



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/joe-biden-push-voter-iowa-climate-change-2020-election-a9307146.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 29, 2020, 06:24:14 PM
The top Democrat candidate is actually a senile communist from Vermont !

You honestly can’t even make this shit up.

LOL
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 29, 2020, 08:47:00 PM
Yup. Bernie is 5 years older than Trump. Every day counts when you get to be our age.  ::)

Yeah but you are retired with a low stress lifestyle and you also look really good in a tank top (no homo). All those years hitting the gym has paid off in spades for yourself.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 29, 2020, 08:49:03 PM
The top Democrat candidate is actually a senile communist from Vermont !

You honestly can’t even make this shit up.

LOL


I thought Warren was from Massachusetts?  ;D











Biden should just note his unique strength in this field....too entrenched and corrupt in the current system to be a socialist.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 29, 2020, 09:06:01 PM

I thought Warren was from Massachusetts?  ;D











Biden should just note his unique strength in this field....too entrenched and corrupt in the current system to be a socialist.

 ;D

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 29, 2020, 09:10:53 PM

I thought Warren was from Massachusetts?  ;D

Biden should just note his unique strength in this field....too entrenched and corrupt in the current system to be a socialist.

At the next debate, Tulsi Gabbard should wait until Pocohontas Warren finishes some long winded bullshit answer, then look right at her and say, “fuck off Shemp”.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on January 29, 2020, 09:16:36 PM

I thought Warren was from Massachusetts?  ;D

She's (http://"American Indian") from Oklahoma, probably Cherokee.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 30, 2020, 08:08:03 PM
Well, well..... that’s really going to put Bernie Sanders in the lead now.

https://www.les-crises.fr/breaking-news-prosecutor-shokin-files-a-complaint-against-joe-biden-for-interference-in-ukraine-s-legal-proceedings/

I guarantee that the stealing of U.S. taxpayer funded aid goes all the way to the Obamas.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on January 31, 2020, 05:51:04 AM
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Sanders, Biden are neck-and-neck in new NBC/WSJ national poll

Jan. 31, 2020, 5:00 AM CST
By Carrie Dann

DES MOINES, Iowa — Just days before the first votes are counted in the Democratic primary, a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal national poll finds Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and former Vice President Joe Biden statistically tied at the top of the Democratic field.

Sanders gets 27 percent support from Democratic primary voters around the country, while Biden gets 26 percent. Sanders’ single-point advantage, while well within the poll’s +/- 4.74 percentage point margin of error, marks his first lead of the primary in the NBC/WSJ survey.

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren is the only other Democrat registering in double digits, at 15 percent, while former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg now holds the fourth place spot, at 9 percent. Former South Bend mayor Pete Buttigieg gets 7 percent support in the poll; Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar has 5 percent, and businessman Andrew Yang stands at 4 percent. No other candidate has 3 percent support or more.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/sanders-biden-are-neck-neck-new-nbc-wsj-national-poll-n1127051
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on January 31, 2020, 06:19:23 AM
Movin' on up: Bloomberg glides past Warren to No.3 in Democratic race - Reuters/Ipsos

https://www.yahoo.com/news/movin-bloomberg-glides-past-warren-213757643.html

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 31, 2020, 06:22:47 AM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 31, 2020, 01:52:41 PM
Can anyone give me an idea what a Biden voter is demographically? Obama won't even stump for him so who are his people?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 31, 2020, 08:23:47 PM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IRON CROSS on February 01, 2020, 12:35:58 AM
Old bugger Saggy should #.16 on that list  ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 01, 2020, 01:24:00 PM
Changing the rules this late into the process?

It appears to be a blatant attempt to screw Bernie out of the nomination if necessary.


DNC members discuss rules change to stop Sanders at convention



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By DAVID SIDERS

01/31/2020 05:31 PM EST

Updated: 01/31/2020 06:59 PM EST

DES MOINES, Iowa — A small group of Democratic National Committee members has privately begun gauging support for a plan to potentially weaken Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign and head off a brokered convention.

In conversations on the sidelines of a DNC executive committee meeting and in telephone calls and texts in recent days, about a half-dozen members have discussed the possibility of a policy reversal to ensure that so-called superdelegates can vote on the first ballot at the party’s national convention. Such a move would increase the influence of DNC members, members of Congress and other top party officials, who now must wait until the second ballot to have their say if the convention is contested.

“I do believe we should re-open the rules. I hear it from others as well,” one DNC member said in a text message last week to William Owen, a DNC member from Tennessee who does not support re-opening the rules.

Owen, who declined to identify the member, said the member added in a text that “It would be hard though. We could force a meeting or on the floor.”

Even proponents of the change acknowledge it is all but certain not to gain enough support to move past these initial conversations. But the talks reveal the extent of angst that many establishment Democrats are feeling on the eve of the Iowa caucuses.

Sanders is surging and Joe Biden has maintained his lead nationally, but at least three other candidates are widely seen as viable. The cluster raises the specter of a convention requiring a second ballot.

If Sanders wins the Iowa caucuses on Monday and continues to gain momentum, it is possible he could arrive at the convention with the most delegates — but without enough to win the nomination on the first ballot. It is also possible that he and Elizabeth Warren, a fellow progressive, could arrive at the convention in second and third place, but with more delegates combined than the frontrunner.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/31/dnc-superdelegates-110083
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on February 01, 2020, 04:53:16 PM
Changing the rules this late into the process?

It appears to be a blatant attempt to screw Bernie out of the nomination if necessary.


DNC members discuss rules change to stop Sanders at convention



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By DAVID SIDERS

01/31/2020 05:31 PM EST

Updated: 01/31/2020 06:59 PM EST

DES MOINES, Iowa — A small group of Democratic National Committee members has privately begun gauging support for a plan to potentially weaken Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign and head off a brokered convention.

In conversations on the sidelines of a DNC executive committee meeting and in telephone calls and texts in recent days, about a half-dozen members have discussed the possibility of a policy reversal to ensure that so-called superdelegates can vote on the first ballot at the party’s national convention. Such a move would increase the influence of DNC members, members of Congress and other top party officials, who now must wait until the second ballot to have their say if the convention is contested.

“I do believe we should re-open the rules. I hear it from others as well,” one DNC member said in a text message last week to William Owen, a DNC member from Tennessee who does not support re-opening the rules.

Owen, who declined to identify the member, said the member added in a text that “It would be hard though. We could force a meeting or on the floor.”

Even proponents of the change acknowledge it is all but certain not to gain enough support to move past these initial conversations. But the talks reveal the extent of angst that many establishment Democrats are feeling on the eve of the Iowa caucuses.

Sanders is surging and Joe Biden has maintained his lead nationally, but at least three other candidates are widely seen as viable. The cluster raises the specter of a convention requiring a second ballot.

If Sanders wins the Iowa caucuses on Monday and continues to gain momentum, it is possible he could arrive at the convention with the most delegates — but without enough to win the nomination on the first ballot. It is also possible that he and Elizabeth Warren, a fellow progressive, could arrive at the convention in second and third place, but with more delegates combined than the frontrunner.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/31/dnc-superdelegates-110083

It’s 2016 again.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2020, 04:59:58 PM
It’s 2016 again.

Sanders like last time won’t say a darn thing.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 01, 2020, 05:29:43 PM
Pretty solid meltdown. Definitely worth the watch.



Michael Moore Trashes DNC at Sanders Rally: They’ll Let Bloomberg in Debates ‘Because He’s Got a Billion F*cking Dollars!’


Other candidates in the Democratic 2020 primary race are, to put it lightly, not happy with the DNC changing debate rules that are expected to benefit Michael Bloomberg and allow him to appear on the debate stage next month.

Per the New York Times:

    The D.N.C. announced Friday that in order to participate in the debate, set for Feb. 19 in Las Vegas, a candidate must win at least a single delegate in either the Iowa caucuses or the New Hampshire primary or meet polling requirements.

    It has eliminated the requirement that candidates must have received donations from hundreds of thousands of individuals. Mr. Bloomberg, a multibillionaire, is running a self-funded campaign and is not soliciting donations.

Michael Moore was on the campaign trail for Bernie Sanders in Iowa tonight and said that “the corporate Democrats, the one percent of the Democratic Party who are thoroughly pissed that Bernie Sanders is now number one” and has a chance of winning.

Moore said the DNC is trying to “undo the people’s movement” as he reviewed what the rule change is. And he went after Bloomberg in particular:

    “They removed it so that he can be in the next debate! He doesn’t have to show he has any support amongst the American people, he can just buy his way onto the debate stage. And I’ve gotta tell you what’s so discussing about this. I watched the debate in Iowa here two weeks ago, the all-white debate, and the fact that… the DNC will not allow Cory Booker on that stage, will not allow Julian Castro on that stage, but they’re going to allow Mike Bloomberg on the stage because he’s got a billion fucking dollars!”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/michael-moore-trashes-dnc-at-sanders-rally-theyll-let-bloomberg-in-debates-because-hes-got-a-billion-fcking-dollars/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 01, 2020, 05:44:51 PM
Bloomberg buying the nomination, just like Hillary did.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 01, 2020, 05:59:42 PM
Bloomberg has a lot more than ONE billion.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 02, 2020, 05:44:43 AM
to comments.

Elizabeth Warren makes an amazing statement about her Secretary of Education
American Thinker ^ | Andrea Widburg
Posted on 2/2/2020, 6:15:55 AM by RoosterRedux

Ever since Carter established the Department of Education in 1979, presidents have at least pretended to select their DOE head by looking at that person’s theories and expertise about educational opportunities for all students. Elizabeth Warren, however, has decided that all potential Education secretaries must pass muster with a single demographic: “A young trans person.”

And no, this is not a story from the Babylon Bee. It’s a genuine story of Elizabeth Warren pandering on the campaign trail.

At a campaign event in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Elizabeth Warren was giving a speech to a young audience when she began to discuss her requirements for a Secretary of Education. The first requirement would be that the person had been a public school teacher, an exceptionally stupid and short-sighted plan that cuts out the enormous number of possible candidates who did not teach in public schools.

Where Warren went from stupid to insane, though, was when she spoke about the way in which a question from a “young trans person,” who asked her about sex education and LGBTQ history in public schools, helped shape her policy for selecting a Secretary of Education. According to Warren, when she heard this question, she began by explaining to the questioner that,

It starts with a Secretary of Education who has a lot to do with where we spend our money, with what gets advanced in our public schools, with what the standards are.
After explaining to the “young trans person” (and to the audience to whom she was speaking) just how important the Secretary of Education is to public education in America, Warren then stated her core requirement for any person to make the cut as her Secretary of Education:

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 02, 2020, 09:40:08 AM
Dems fixing elections against Bernie again. It should be no surprise that the guy that promises everything for free first is outgunning those who have been doing it less time and worse in delivery.

Then again...he's running against a senile career crook, a midget billionaire that nobody can stand, a crazy indian cat lady and a gay dude with no experience.



"Sanders was expected Saturday night to place first in the influential and "gold standard" Des Moines Register/CNN/Mediacom Iowa Poll, but the poll was shelved after the campaign of former South Bend, Indiana mayor Pete Buttigieg claimed a supporter had encountered an irregularity with the pollsters."



https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/01/i-cant-believe-amount-people-here-over-3000-rally-sanders-influential-iowa-survey
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 02, 2020, 10:12:51 AM
Bloomberg surges past Warren into third place in new national poll

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Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg surged past Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) in the latest nationwide Hill-HarrisX poll, putting him in third place in the field of Democratic presidential candidates.

The survey, released Thursday, showed Bloomberg’s support ticking up 4 percentage points to 11 percent from from a Jan. 13-14 poll. Warren dropped 2 points, to 9 percent.

Other candidates registering in the single digits included former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg, at 5 percent, and businessman Andrew Yang and billionaire Tom Steyer, who each received 4 percent. The rest of the White House hopefuls polled at 2 percent or less.

Warren has struggled to rebound nationally after peaking at 19 percent support in October.

But Warren isn’t the only top-tier candidate to slide in the polls ahead of Monday's Iowa caucuses. Progressive rival Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) dropped 2 points, to 17 percent.

Former Vice President Joe Biden, meanwhile, maintained a double-digit lead over the field, with 29 percent support.

Both Biden and Sanders are locked in a tight race in Iowa. An Emerson poll released Sunday found the Vermont senator in the top spot in the Hawkeye State with 30 percent support, followed by Biden's 21 percent. A New York Times/Siena College poll released the day before also showed Sanders in the lead with 25 percent support to Biden’s 17 percent.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/480721-bloomberg-surges-past-warren-into-third-place-in-new-national-poll
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on February 02, 2020, 10:16:43 AM
Bernie appealing to the youth and soy contingent.

Biden/Bloomberg appealing to those on the left who don't want to lose a large amount of money.

Warren just lying and pandering at every turn, probably hanging around hoping to get a VP slot.

Mayor Pete, Knob-lickahur, Yang just hanging around.

Although rumor has it Yang will outperform the polls significantly.

No idea who emerges, but I thought Biden originally, and would still pick, if I had to bet.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 02, 2020, 12:29:04 PM
Bernie appealing to the youth and soy contingent.

Biden/Bloomberg appealing to those on the left who don't want to lose a large amount of money.

Warren just lying and pandering at every turn, probably hanging around hoping to get a VP slot.

Mayor Pete, Knob-lickahur, Yang just hanging around.

Although rumor has it Yang will outperform the polls significantly.

No idea who emerges, but I thought Biden originally, and would still pick, if I had to bet.





A Bernie/Yang ticket would be interesting...

I just don't know who these voters are that like Biden and Bloomberg. The dem party has abandoned classic liberal/labor ideals...

Warren would have rode that whole "I'm an indian" thing all the way to the VP slot if she could have.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 02, 2020, 01:01:40 PM
The Democrats are pushing Bloomberg as hard as they can now.

They know Joe Biden won’t survive an honest corruption investigation.

The DNC is bankrupt and know they have zero chance against the Trump war chest.

While Nancy Pelosi was fucking around with the Impeachment farce, Bernie Sanders and AOC have taken over the Democrat Party.

LOL !!!!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on February 02, 2020, 01:26:09 PM
The Democrats are pushing Bloomberg as hard as they can now.



The DNC is bankrupt and know they have zero chance against the Trump war chest.


Coincidence? The dummycrats are so financially inept they can't even manage their own party.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on February 02, 2020, 01:39:51 PM
The Democrats are pushing Bloomberg as hard as they can now.

They know Joe Biden won’t survive an honest corruption investigation.

The DNC is bankrupt and know they have zero chance against the Trump war chest.

While Nancy Pelosi was fucking around with the Impeachment farce, Bernie Sanders and AOC have taken over the Democrat Party.

LOL !!!!

Pelosi, like virtually all democRats is a Zelig and will just take on the identity of whatever her party's political zeitgeist becomes.  Fuck That Noise.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 02, 2020, 03:10:43 PM
I’m surprised Jimmy Carter hasn’t discussed throwing his hat into the ring.




John Kerry overheard discussing possible 2020 bid amid concern of 'Sanders taking down the Democratic Party'

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/john-kerry-overheard-discussing-possible-2020-bid-amid-concern-sanders-n1128476
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 02, 2020, 04:23:17 PM
Wow what an incredible boost to the Democrat brand.

I wonder who he will be supporting in the primary?

Never Trump Republican Bill Kristol comes out of the 'political closet' and declares he's a Democrat for now


(https://victorygirlsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/bill-kristol-square.jpg)


When Bill Kristol swore he would never vote for President Donald Trump, he meant it. The longtime conservative commentator took to Facebook today to admit that he is a Democrat—for now.

In a tweet, the former editor-at-large of the now-defunct Weekly Standard, declared: "Not presumably forever; not perhaps for a day after Nov. 3, 2020; not on every issue or in every way until then. But for the time being one has to say: We are all Democrats now."

In his tweet, Kristol appeared to be reacting to the Senate's 51-49 vote to not call additional witnesses in Trump’s impeachment trial. As the Daily Caller noted, two Republicans, Sen. Susan Collins (Maine) and Sen. Mitt Romney (Utah), crossed party lines and voted with Democrats who were attempting to have former national security advisor John Bolton testify against the president.

The longtime #NeverTrump critic's tweet was blasted by conservative Trump supporters on Twitter. Among them was the DailyWire's Josh Hammer who said the declaration was "The tweet in which I finally unfollowed Bill Kristol." Meanwhile, conservative commentator Todd Starnes joked that Kristol had "finally came out of the political closet."

https://www.theblaze.com/news/bill_kristol_political_closet_democrat
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 02, 2020, 05:22:07 PM
Wow what an incredible boost to the Democrat brand.

I wonder who he will be supporting in the primary?

Never Trump Republican Bill Kristol comes out of the 'political closet' and declares he's a Democrat for now


(https://victorygirlsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/bill-kristol-square.jpg)


When Bill Kristol swore he would never vote for President Donald Trump, he meant it. The longtime conservative commentator took to Facebook today to admit that he is a Democrat—for now.

In a tweet, the former editor-at-large of the now-defunct Weekly Standard, declared: "Not presumably forever; not perhaps for a day after Nov. 3, 2020; not on every issue or in every way until then. But for the time being one has to say: We are all Democrats now."

In his tweet, Kristol appeared to be reacting to the Senate's 51-49 vote to not call additional witnesses in Trump’s impeachment trial. As the Daily Caller noted, two Republicans, Sen. Susan Collins (Maine) and Sen. Mitt Romney (Utah), crossed party lines and voted with Democrats who were attempting to have former national security advisor John Bolton testify against the president.

The longtime #NeverTrump critic's tweet was blasted by conservative Trump supporters on Twitter. Among them was the DailyWire's Josh Hammer who said the declaration was "The tweet in which I finally unfollowed Bill Kristol." Meanwhile, conservative commentator Todd Starnes joked that Kristol had "finally came out of the political closet."

https://www.theblaze.com/news/bill_kristol_political_closet_democrat

His photo screams “soggy old deviant queer....”

This guy has spent more time at Ed Buck’s house than PrimeCrybaby.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 02, 2020, 05:36:22 PM
F him.   Pos


Wow what an incredible boost to the Democrat brand.

I wonder who he will be supporting in the primary?

Never Trump Republican Bill Kristol comes out of the 'political closet' and declares he's a Democrat for now


(https://victorygirlsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/bill-kristol-square.jpg)


When Bill Kristol swore he would never vote for President Donald Trump, he meant it. The longtime conservative commentator took to Facebook today to admit that he is a Democrat—for now.

In a tweet, the former editor-at-large of the now-defunct Weekly Standard, declared: "Not presumably forever; not perhaps for a day after Nov. 3, 2020; not on every issue or in every way until then. But for the time being one has to say: We are all Democrats now."

In his tweet, Kristol appeared to be reacting to the Senate's 51-49 vote to not call additional witnesses in Trump’s impeachment trial. As the Daily Caller noted, two Republicans, Sen. Susan Collins (Maine) and Sen. Mitt Romney (Utah), crossed party lines and voted with Democrats who were attempting to have former national security advisor John Bolton testify against the president.

The longtime #NeverTrump critic's tweet was blasted by conservative Trump supporters on Twitter. Among them was the DailyWire's Josh Hammer who said the declaration was "The tweet in which I finally unfollowed Bill Kristol." Meanwhile, conservative commentator Todd Starnes joked that Kristol had "finally came out of the political closet."

https://www.theblaze.com/news/bill_kristol_political_closet_democrat
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 02, 2020, 07:06:56 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/john-kerry-overheard-discussing-possible-2020-bid-amid-concern-sanders-n1128476

And now John Kerry is going to be the Democrat Party answer to take on President Donald Trump.

If they weren’t such total worthless assholes, I’d almost feel sorry for how pathetic the Democrats have become.

Ha ha ha ha ha.....no way in hell libidiots !
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 02, 2020, 08:54:32 PM
Kerry is not nearly leftist/woke enough. Oh, and he is....another old white guy...

These people have no idea that they've given control of their party to entertainment and "news" hosts that love extreme left candidates.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 02, 2020, 10:29:39 PM
This is a Bloomberg story by the way...Bloomberg said no negative stories about fellow dems a while back. Guess that's over.



"Iowa Senator Joni Ernst warned Sunday that Republicans could immediately push to impeach Joe Biden over his work in Ukraine as vice president if he win the White House."

“I think this door of impeachable whatever has been opened,” Ernst said in an interview with Bloomberg News. “Joe Biden should be very careful what he’s asking for because, you know, we can have a situation where if it should ever be President Biden, that immediately, people, right the day after he would be elected would be saying, ‘Well, we’re going to impeach him.’”







https://www.yahoo.com/news/joe-biden-could-impeached-gop-200240479.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2020, 09:09:14 AM
Joe Biden kisses his 19-year-old granddaughter on the lips during speech
Daily Mail ^ | 2-02-2020 | Emily Crane
Posted on 2/2/2020, 10:04:29 PM by ZagFan

Joe Biden gave his teen granddaughter a kiss on the lips while giving a speech at a campaign trail event ahead of the Iowa caucuses.

The former Vice President was spotted clutching 19-year-old Finnegan Biden's hand as they arrived at a campaign event at Clarke University in Dubuque, Iowa on Sunday.

The 77-year-old gave his granddaughter a peck on the lips as a crowd of supporters watched on.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...




YUCK!!!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 03, 2020, 10:10:11 AM
Joe Biden kisses his 19-year-old granddaughter on the lips during speech
Daily Mail ^ | 2-02-2020 | Emily Crane
Posted on 2/2/2020, 10:04:29 PM by ZagFan

Joe Biden gave his teen granddaughter a kiss on the lips while giving a speech at a campaign trail event ahead of the Iowa caucuses.

The former Vice President was spotted clutching 19-year-old Finnegan Biden's hand as they arrived at a campaign event at Clarke University in Dubuque, Iowa on Sunday.

The 77-year-old gave his granddaughter a peck on the lips as a crowd of supporters watched on.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...




YUCK!!!

Didn't Biden's son have an affair with his brother's wife, while he was married to another woman?  Entire family of degenerates.

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/9yqzYKLS_uDAJrExCfNYaA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNQ--/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/K8ADUjXrJBwzDDjN8I9gVQ--~B/dz0wO3NtPTE7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_independent_635/3a37b0745b0ad4067915fa6a7c877bd1)

(https://thejeffreylord.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/bidenkissing.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2020, 10:15:37 AM
Didn't Biden's son have an affair with his brother's wife, while he was married to another woman?  Entire family of degenerates.

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/9yqzYKLS_uDAJrExCfNYaA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNQ--/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/K8ADUjXrJBwzDDjN8I9gVQ--~B/dz0wO3NtPTE7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_independent_635/3a37b0745b0ad4067915fa6a7c877bd1)

(https://thejeffreylord.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/bidenkissing.jpg)

SICK!  WTF
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on February 03, 2020, 10:18:39 AM
Didn't Biden's son have an affair with his brother's wife, while he was married to another woman?  Entire family of degenerates.

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/9yqzYKLS_uDAJrExCfNYaA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNQ--/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/K8ADUjXrJBwzDDjN8I9gVQ--~B/dz0wO3NtPTE7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_independent_635/3a37b0745b0ad4067915fa6a7c877bd1)

(https://thejeffreylord.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/bidenkissing.jpg)

That’s his granddaughter. Once again, just when you thought Creepy Joe couldn’t get any creepier, he keeps outdoing himself.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 03, 2020, 10:19:35 AM
Joe Biden kisses his 19-year-old granddaughter on the lips during speech
Daily Mail ^ | 2-02-2020 | Emily Crane
Posted on 2/2/2020, 10:04:29 PM by ZagFan

Joe Biden gave his teen granddaughter a kiss on the lips while giving a speech at a campaign trail event ahead of the Iowa caucuses.

The former Vice President was spotted clutching 19-year-old Finnegan Biden's hand as they arrived at a campaign event at Clarke University in Dubuque, Iowa on Sunday.

The 77-year-old gave his granddaughter a peck on the lips as a crowd of supporters watched on.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...




YUCK!!!

This would be considered yucky in my (WASP) family  because it isn't part of our family culture. Showing public affection is normal in some families.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2020, 10:38:06 AM
This would be considered yucky in my (WASP) family  because it isn't part of our family culture. Showing public affection is normal in some families.


Im italian and even we dont do this creepy disgusting perverted stuff.  Come on now. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 03, 2020, 11:27:44 AM
(https://preview.redd.it/q8553ftjtyd41.jpg?width=640&height=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b7982e7ed7267f82890c31a2d4cfb82bd29a1e66)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 03, 2020, 12:37:37 PM
Im italian and even we dont do this creepy disgusting perverted stuff.  Come on now. 


Well to be fair he's paying his family well to put up with it.   ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 03, 2020, 01:02:22 PM
Pocahontas wants to let transgendered kids determine who will be the next Secretary of Education.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2020, 01:04:59 PM
Pocahontas wants to let transgendered kids determine who will be the next Secretary of Education.

How utterly insane and crazy is this? 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on February 03, 2020, 01:05:50 PM
Im italian and even we dont do this creepy disgusting perverted stuff.  Come on now. 

That's the Dem/Biden playbook. Even "metoo" loons like Alyssa Milano are trying to excuse Biden's creepiness as "cultural difference". Sick fucks.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/04/29/holy-hypocrisy-batman-alyssa-milano-defends-super-affectionate-joe-biden-confesses-to-some-problematic-behavior-of-her-own-video/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2020, 01:07:14 PM
That's the Dem/Biden playbook. Even "metoo" loons like Alyssa Milano are trying to excuse Biden's creepiness as "cultural difference". Sick fucks.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/04/29/holy-hypocrisy-batman-alyssa-milano-defends-super-affectionate-joe-biden-confesses-to-some-problematic-behavior-of-her-own-video/

She is a pathetic disgrace.  I grew up in immigrant italian family and no one ever kidded on the mouth like this.   These liberal pedos are disgusting. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2020, 04:04:15 PM
Skip to comments.

Democrats stick it to Sanders again, rigging their own debate to add Bloomberg
American Thinker ^ | 02/02/2020 | Monica Showalter
Posted on 2/2/2020, 5:44:25 PM by SeekAndFind

After claiming they'd cleaned up their act, the Democratic National Committee has done it again: Rigged its own nominating process to keep Bernie Sanders off the Democratic ticket for president. They did that in the last election, putting a thumb on the scale for Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders, and after that ugly behavior got out, they took great pains to assure would never happen again.

But here we are, with this report from Politico:

The Democratic National Committee is drastically revising its criteria to participate in primary debates after New Hampshire, doubling the polling threshold and eliminating the individual donor requirement, which could pave the way for former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg to make the stage beginning in mid-February.

Candidates will need to earn at least 10 percent in four polls released from Jan. 15 to Feb. 18, or 12 percent in two polls conducted in Nevada or South Carolina, in order to participate in the Feb. 19 debate in Las Vegas. Any candidate who earns at least one delegate to the national convention in either the Iowa caucuses or New Hampshire primary will also qualify for the Nevada debate.

What a coincidence, it comes just as Bernie Sanders is surging in the polls and looks set to secure the Democratic nomination. Democrats have been murmuring to the press for about a week about how that reality scares them. Now we see that they've taking action, putting Bloomberg out front to the voters, as Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg crater, hoping that new-face Bloomberg might just do the trick...

Fine and dandy, except that the Bernie-ites can see exactly what's going on...


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on February 03, 2020, 05:47:55 PM
This would be considered yucky in my (WASP) family  because it isn't part of our family culture. Showing public affection is normal in some families.


Kissing your grandaughter on the lips is not normal in America.

It's just not done.  It's weird.  It's incestuous.  It's f*cked up.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 03, 2020, 06:25:51 PM
If anyone is looking for a livestream of the Iowa caucus(or others in the future) I would like to give a shout out to this guy here: Red Eagle Politics.

Super knowledgeable guy. Does a fantastic job.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 03, 2020, 06:57:28 PM
Im italian and even we dont do this creepy disgusting perverted stuff.  Come on now. 

So are American/Italians normally demonstrably affectionate towards each other? I haven't noticed this. Biden heritage is Irish, French and English. However, his family has been in the U.S. for several generations. It would be safe to assume they are 'Americanized' and so European roots probably have nothing to do with he and his family being unusually affectionate with one another. Biden's tendency towards public affection is inexplicable. This shouldn't imply there is something sexual about it. Did his daughter recoil when her father kissed her?

Assuming the worst about this behavior is just too easy. Come on now. There is plenty about Biden that makes him a poor choice for President in my opinion without having to make shit up about him. He's probably the worst public speaker of any politician I've heard. His thoughts stray. He's just too old for the job of President, so is Sanders and so is Warren.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: mazrim on February 03, 2020, 07:00:34 PM
Kissing your grandaughter on the lips is not normal in America.

It's just not done.  It's weird.  It's incestuous.  It's f*cked up.


As much as it disgusts me, I see this happening fairly often nowadays. Seems to be actually growing with the younger parents and raising their children like it is normal to do that.

Have not seen it once in person with a teenager, though. Always a younger child. I think it is very weird/gross and looks very awkward/forced.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 03, 2020, 07:07:07 PM
Kissing your grandaughter on the lips is not normal in America.

It's just not done.  It's weird.  It's incestuous.  It's f*cked up.



To say it is incestuous is taking it a bit far. A kiss on the lips is not sex. Incest is human sexual activity between family members or close relatives.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 03, 2020, 08:12:25 PM
What is going on with these Iowa results??

We are quickly approaching midnight(Eastern time) and we still have very little data.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on February 03, 2020, 08:22:04 PM
To say it is incestuous is taking it a bit far. A kiss on the lips is not sex. Incest is human sexual activity between family members or close relatives.

I agree, although in the LEO community some might think, not feel, that a bit of grooming may well be going on.  Joe Biden is a creepy guy, of that much the world of those that think can agree on.

Of course Agn007 is a supposed retired LEO but given he's a fucking lib I wouldn't trust him as far as you could throw him. 

I know...you're wondering if Hades just froze over because I agreed with you.  No.  I am just honest.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 03, 2020, 08:44:54 PM
Must take time to fix the results. Dems don't believe in elections. This is all silly. If Biden is in the top 2 how is this not fixed? Nobody goes to his rallies just like Hillary.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 03, 2020, 08:50:51 PM
Must take time to fix the results. Dems don't believe in elections. This is all silly. If Biden is in the top 2 how is this not fixed? Nobody goes to his rallies just like Hillary.

Talk about a massive FAIL.

Less than 2% reporting at Midnight.

I was hoping to post some little tidbits of info from the night but they have left us with practically nothing to even talk about.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 03, 2020, 08:58:41 PM
A couple good tweets from Donald Trump Jr.


Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr
·
9m
Elizabeth Warren preparing for total victory with “maybe” 1/1024th of the vote in. #IowaCaucuses #Iowa


Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr
If the Democrats can’t run a #caucus that they had four years to prepare for, how the hell can anyone think they could actually run the country? #IowaCaucuses #iowa
10:45 PM · Feb 3, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 03, 2020, 09:28:15 PM
Some in the Bernie Bros crowd now claiming it's a "conspiracy" to keep his campaign from gaining momentum.

They are citing the scratching of the poll earlier this week, the moving around of certain caucus sites and now these "supposed" issues with the app being used to tally up the votes.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on February 03, 2020, 10:31:10 PM
Iowa, population 12 million, somehow just received 15 million write in votes for Hillary.

All in same handwriting.

Good for her
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 03, 2020, 11:12:01 PM
I can hear Hillary's cackle from here.

This is the party that wants to nationalize healthcare.  ::)

Going to get a new bottle of scotch for the State of the Union. It's going to be a barn burner.  ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 04, 2020, 12:18:16 AM
I agree, although in the LEO community some might think, not feel, that a bit of grooming may well be going on.  Joe Biden is a creepy guy, of that much the world of those that think can agree on.

Of course Agn007 is a supposed retired LEO but given he's a fucking lib I wouldn't trust him as far as you could throw him. 

I know...you're wondering if Hades just froze over because I agreed with you.  No.  I am just honest.

You've come to your senses in the past. So, I know you have it in you.  ;D

Anyway you are right, Joe Biden is creepy. Whether warranted or not, he's been called out for previous questionable behaviors. In his situation, no matter how innocent his kisses and hugs may be, they don't sit well with some people. He's supposedly trying to get the nomination. He won't do it by offending people who might otherwise vote for him.  Regardless of what he does, he can't become younger and I think he's too old and probably somewhat mentally feeble for the position of President.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 04, 2020, 03:19:31 AM
You've come to your senses in the past. So, I know you have it in you.  ;D

Anyway you are right, Joe Biden is creepy. Whether warranted or not, he's been called out for previous questionable behaviors. In his situation, no matter how innocent his kisses and hugs may be, they don't sit well with some people. He's supposedly trying to get the nomination. He won't do it by offending people who might otherwise vote for him.  Regardless of what he does, he can't become younger and I think he's too old and probably somewhat mentally feeble for the position of President.

Does it bother you that we do not even know the results of this caucus the morning after?

When will we have a full account of this contest??

Too much secrecy and back room dealings for my tastes.

Prime, you are a dyed in the wool Democrat but can you even describe in a couple sentences what the Democratic agenda is going forward??
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on February 04, 2020, 03:48:46 AM
Does it bother you that we do not even know the results of this caucus the morning after?

When will we have a full account of this contest??

Too much secrecy and back room dealings for my tastes.

Prime, you are a dyed in the wool Democrat but can you even describe in a couple sentences what the Democratic agenda is going forward??


I can:  The end of freedom for Americans.

Fuck That Noise.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 04, 2020, 04:25:14 AM
Does it bother you that we do not even know the results of this caucus the morning after?

When will we have a full account of this contest??

Too much secrecy and back room dealings for my tastes.

Prime, you are a dyed in the wool Democrat but can you even describe in a couple sentences what the Democratic agenda is going forward??


Socialism, transgender mania 24-7, banning guns, banning fun, taxing cow farts, etc. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 04, 2020, 04:34:29 AM
Joe Biden flopped in Iowa. And so did the Democratic party's reputation

Well, one thing we can say confidently is that “frontrunner” Joe Biden flopped. There were places where Biden didn’t even meet the 15% threshold needed to maintain viability from the first round to the second round – at one caucus site, the attorney general of Iowa had to switch from Biden to Buttigieg when Biden was disqualified.

So what went wrong? It’s still not quite clear, though there were reports that a special app used to transmit vote totals had malfunctioned. Questions were immediately raised about who built the app and how it had been deployed. Ironically, it was introduced in order to “get results out to the public quicker” and had been “hastily put together” over the last two months. There had been security concerns from the start, and when NPR questioned the state party chairman, he “declined to provide more details about which company or companies designed the app, or about what specific measures have been put in place to guarantee the system’s security”. Ironically, it was apparently developed by a firm literally called “Shadow”, partly funded by the Pete Buttigieg campaign.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/joe-biden-flopped-iowa-did-080020973.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2020, 06:13:17 AM
Socialism, transgender mania 24-7, banning guns, banning fun, taxing cow farts, etc. 

This & Fucking up the country - Illegal Immigrants - Free Stuff - until America is well & Truly
Fucked up & a Near 3rd world shit hole & Bankrupt.

Yes all admirable Targets The DummyCrap’s Have. 🙄🙄🙄
Really Could you Imagine what sort of utter Madness would emanate from Donkey Teeth Cortez &
Somali Muslime IQ of 65 Omar. - Scary Thought.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 04, 2020, 06:24:03 AM
Well, well....that’s gonna leave a mark.

Today the MSM is trying to smear icing on the Democrat Party shitcake.

Can you imagine a process so messed up that Pete Buttplug thinks he won?

LOL
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2020, 06:47:33 AM
Well, well....that’s gonna leave a mark.

Today the MSM is trying to smear icing on the Democrat Party shitcake.

Can you imagine a process so messed up that Pete Buttplug thinks he won?

LOL


FFS Shit Stabber ButtPlug as The Winner What sorta Fcuked up Agenda is That. 🙄🙄🙄 Crazy
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 04, 2020, 07:15:37 AM

FFS Shit Stabber ButtPlug as The Winner What sorta Fcuked up Agenda is That. 🙄🙄🙄 Crazy

President Donald Trump just put an end to Joe Biden and helped Hunter Biden embark on a new prison career.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 04, 2020, 07:32:53 AM
I’m surprised Jimmy Carter hasn’t discussed throwing his hat into the ring.




John Kerry overheard discussing possible 2020 bid amid concern of 'Sanders taking down the Democratic Party'

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/john-kerry-overheard-discussing-possible-2020-bid-amid-concern-sanders-n1128476
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 04, 2020, 07:53:15 AM
Joe Biden flopped in Iowa. And so did the Democratic party's reputation

Well, one thing we can say confidently is that “frontrunner” Joe Biden flopped. There were places where Biden didn’t even meet the 15% threshold needed to maintain viability from the first round to the second round – at one caucus site, the attorney general of Iowa had to switch from Biden to Buttigieg when Biden was disqualified.

So what went wrong? It’s still not quite clear, though there were reports that a special app used to transmit vote totals had malfunctioned. Questions were immediately raised about who built the app and how it had been deployed. Ironically, it was introduced in order to “get results out to the public quicker” and had been “hastily put together” over the last two months. There had been security concerns from the start, and when NPR questioned the state party chairman, he “declined to provide more details about which company or companies designed the app, or about what specific measures have been put in place to guarantee the system’s security”. Ironically, it was apparently developed by a firm literally called “Shadow”, partly funded by the Pete Buttigieg campaign.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/joe-biden-flopped-iowa-did-080020973.html



Yeah..."special app" of peace.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 04, 2020, 08:51:08 AM


Yeah..."special app" of peace.

Yup, a "special app" developed by a firm partly funded by the Pete Buttigieg campaign.  It's probably a Trojan Horse type app implemented via Back Orifice.  
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 04, 2020, 09:37:49 AM
I tried to follow this cluster-f live last night to give you all some real time reporting but there was just absolutely zero information coming down the pike in regards to actual primary data. I eventually just said "The hell with this" and went to bed.

And of course the proof will be in the pudding once we finally get the results(who knows when that will be) but I can say for sure that the general feeling and sentiment overall was that Joe Biden massively underperformed.

Now, Cruz did win Iowa in '16 just to have Trump come by weeks later and blow his doors completely off, so we must keep that in mind, but yeah, doesn't look to be a good start for Sleepy Joe.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on February 04, 2020, 10:13:33 AM
Have the Dems blamed Russia yet for this clusterfuck?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2020, 10:14:59 AM
Have the Dems blamed Russia yet for this clusterfuck?

It’s the Mother of All Arse Fuckings For The DummyCrap’s - Only ButtPlug Says He’s Up For Some More
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 04, 2020, 10:37:44 AM
I’d suggest having Bob Mueller investigate this fiasco.

Adam “Shirtlifter” Schiff has proof that President Trump screwed up the Democrat Party caucus
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 04, 2020, 02:57:27 PM
Does it bother you that we do not even know the results of this caucus the morning after?

When will we have a full account of this contest??

Too much secrecy and back room dealings for my tastes.

Prime, you are a dyed in the wool Democrat but can you even describe in a couple sentences what the Democratic agenda is going forward??


It doesn't bother me. There are more important things to think about....like, at what time do I want to hit the gym today.  :)

Hopefully, not until everything is sorted out.

The voting process should not be this difficult. I hope it isn't a sign of things to come.

I'm not a dyed in the wool anything. I'll support whichever candidate I think will best serve and represent the people of the United States.

As for an agenda. I think that right now the only agenda Democrats have is all about the nomination and picking the most likely person to win the Presidency in November.

-Not an easy task, given the slate of candidates. Even I have no idea who might be able to cross the finish line first. What I do know is that I hope it is a candidate who is vibrant, intelligent, compassionate, diplomatic, sane and physically able to do the job.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 04, 2020, 03:22:08 PM
It doesn't bother me. There are more important things to think about....like, at what time do I want to hit the gym today.  :)

Hopefully, not until everything is sorted out.

The voting process should not be this difficult. I hope it isn't a sign of things to come.

I'm not a dyed in the wool anything. I'll support whichever candidate I think will best serve and represent the people of the United States.

As for an agenda. I think that right now the only agenda Democrats have is all about the nomination and picking the most likely person to win the Presidency in November.

-Not an easy task, given the slate of candidates. Even I have no idea who might be able to cross the finish line first. What I do know is that I hope it is a candidate who is vibrant, intelligent, compassionate, diplomatic, sane and physically able to do the job.

You sound like you’re going to cry.

Soggy old queer.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2020, 03:28:56 PM
I’d suggest having Bob Mueller investigate this fiasco.

Adam “Shirtlifter” Schiff has proof that President Trump screwed up the Democrat Party caucus


1, Blame Donald
2, Blame The Russians

That’s what the DummyCrap’s Story will Be.

PATHETIC BUNCH
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 04, 2020, 03:29:52 PM
Early results puts South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg in first at 26.9 percent in the state delegate counts with just 62 percent of the results counted. Old man Bernie is right behind him,
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on February 04, 2020, 03:30:01 PM
It doesn't bother me. There are more important things to think about....like, at what time do I want to hit the gym today.  :)

Hopefully, not until everything is sorted out.

The voting process should not be this difficult. I hope it isn't a sign of things to come.

I'm not a dyed in the wool anything. I'll support whichever candidate I think will best serve and represent the people of the United States.

As for an agenda. I think that right now the only agenda Democrats have is all about the nomination and picking the most likely person to win the Presidency in November.

-Not an easy task, given the slate of candidates. Even I have no idea who might be able to cross the finish line first. What I do know is that I hope it is a candidate who is vibrant, intelligent, compassionate, diplomatic, sane and physically able to do the job.

He or she must also be sexual.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 04, 2020, 03:31:22 PM
He or she must also be sexual.

Absofuckinglutely!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on February 04, 2020, 03:40:17 PM
Absofuckinglutely!

I hope you live to 100 and continue to post daily.  That being said, I think you should have your gravestone read:

Prime Muscle
1940-2040
Loving Husband, Father, Grandfather, Great Grandfather, Son, Brother and very Sexual.
 ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 04, 2020, 04:10:50 PM
I hope you live to 100 and continue to post daily.  That being said, I think you should have your gravestone read:

Prime Muscle
1940-2040
Loving Husband, Father, Grandfather, Great Grandfather, Son, Brother and very Sexual.
 ;D

Thanks, some of this is accurate.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on February 04, 2020, 05:50:39 PM
Early results puts South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg in first at 26.9 percent in the state delegate counts with just 62 percent of the results counted. Old man Bernie is right behind him,
Faggotry!!!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 04, 2020, 06:25:57 PM
It doesn't bother me. There are more important things to think about....like, at what time do I want to hit the gym today.  :)

Hopefully, not until everything is sorted out.

The voting process should not be this difficult. I hope it isn't a sign of things to come.

I'm not a dyed in the wool anything. I'll support whichever candidate I think will best serve and represent the people of the United States.

As for an agenda. I think that right now the only agenda Democrats have is all about the nomination and picking the most likely person to win the Presidency in November.

-Not an easy task, given the slate of candidates. Even I have no idea who might be able to cross the finish line first. What I do know is that I hope it is a candidate who is vibrant, intelligent, compassionate, diplomatic, sane and physically able to do the job.

Yeah and from the latest photos I've seen, you look damn good too.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2020, 06:31:32 PM
Early results puts South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg in first at 26.9 percent in the state delegate counts with just 62 percent of the results counted. Old man Bernie is right behind him,


Ha ha ha
Creepy Bernie is Now Behind ButtPlug - No doubt that’s Pleasing ButtPlug No End - Not Sure his husband 🙄 is so happy with this situation

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 04, 2020, 06:36:00 PM
If you have a large family in Iowa, you’re probably the leading Democrat Party candidate this morning
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 04, 2020, 10:20:38 PM
Warren hides behind staffer when she realizes somebody is filming her getting off a very non-green private jet.  ;D





Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 05, 2020, 12:59:07 AM

Ha ha ha
Creepy Bernie is Now Behind ButtPlug - No doubt that’s Pleasing ButtPlug No End - Not Sure his husband 🙄 is so happy with this situation

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Does Pete's husband not want to be First Man? I hadn't heard.  :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 05, 2020, 07:49:34 AM
IN 272 DAYS AMERICA WILL PUT A STOP TO NANCY PELOSI’S CHILDISH BULLSHIT !     
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on February 05, 2020, 09:23:33 AM
IN 272 DAYS AMERICA WILL PUT A STOP TO NANCY PELOSI’S CHILDISH BULLSHIT !     


by voting her in again?  ???
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 05, 2020, 09:50:04 AM

by voting her in again?  ???

In 272 days, President Donald Trump will be re-elected in a historic landslide.

He will basically end the political careers of Pelosi, Nadler, Schumer, Schiff, Biden, Sanders, and Warren all at the same time.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 05, 2020, 09:59:35 AM
In 272 days, President Donald Trump will be re-elected in a historic landslide.

He will basically end the political careers of Pelosi, Nadler, Schumer, Schiff, Biden, Sanders, and Warren all at the same time.

Just like he mopped the floor with the Bush dynasty and then wiped his butt with the Clinton dynasty in 2016.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKhWgfiWsAAPk2B.png) (https://content.fortune.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/621958726.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on February 05, 2020, 03:22:02 PM
In 272 days, President Donald Trump will be re-elected in a historic landslide.

He will basically end the political careers of Pelosi, Nadler, Schumer, Schiff, Biden, Sanders, and Warren all at the same time.

Just like he mopped the floor with the Bush dynasty and then wiped his butt with the Clinton dynasty in 2016.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKhWgfiWsAAPk2B.png) (https://content.fortune.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/621958726.jpg)


I certainly hope so.
Go Donald.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 06, 2020, 09:13:30 AM
Why Joe Biden’s Collapse In Iowa Means Trouble For Democrats: Now the best hope to prevent a Bernie Sanders nomination is 'Moderate' Pete Buttigieg?
The Federalist ^ | 02/05/2020 | John Daniel Davidson
Posted on 2/6/2020, 11:56:58 AM by SeekAndFind

MANCHESTER, New Hampshire — Of all the Democratic caucusgoers I spoke with in Iowa last week, not one told me his or her first choice was Joe Biden. Now I know why: there were never that many Biden supporters in Iowa to begin with.

All of the caucus results might not be in yet, but we know enough to say with confidence that Biden’s campaign in Iowa collapsed. Despite leading in many state polls over the past year, he finished a distant fourth, barely clearing the 15 percent threshold for viability and, with 86 percent of precincts reporting as of this writing, earning 10,000 fewer votes statewide than Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who came in third.

The media, which still relies far too much on polls, wasn’t expecting this. But I have a feeling it didn’t shock many Iowa Democrats. As Jay Cost noted on Twitter, Biden peaked at 28.5 percent in the RealClearPolitics poll average in Iowa, but “the more voters saw of him, the less they liked.”

The big story out of Iowa, then, isn’t necessarily the broken app or the utter incompetence of the Iowa State Democratic Party and the Democratic National Committee (although those are important stories that will likely take on more significance as the cycle goes on). The big story is that Biden, the presumptive Democratic frontrunner right up until Monday night, might not survive past South Carolina, which has now become his firewall.

By all accounts, Biden was betting big on Iowa, having eschewed much effort or expense in New Hampshire, where the candidates are now campaigning but Biden has a far smaller presence than his rivals. Since the new year, Biden’s paltry media buys and infrequent campaign events in New Hampshire this week indicate he assumed he didn’t need to win the first presidential primary—or that he couldn’t win it.

Here in Manchester, there are scant signs of the Biden campaign—few yard signs, infrequent ads, and almost no events anywhere in the state ahead of the primary apart from a few get-out-the-vote speeches and a CNN town hall earlier this week. (By contrast, the Buttigieg campaign appears to be in high gear, with a steady stream of volunteers coming and going from a field office downtown.)

Beyond New Hampshire, Biden now faces a tough battle in the Nevada caucus later this month, which Sen. Bernie Sanders is favored to win with strong Hispanic support. That leaves Biden with the possible scenario that he goes into South Carolina with zero victories, and maybe not even strong showings, in the first three states—itself a sobering reminder that Biden has never won a presidential primary.

All of that means Pete Buttigieg, who as of this writing appears to have won Iowa by a razor-thin margin, is the Democratic Party establishment’s last, best hope to prevent Sanders from winning the nomination and possibly leading the party to a 1972 George McGovern-style defeat.

Democrats ‘Have Got To Wake Up’
That in turn should greatly worry moderate and centrist Democrats, because so far there’s no sign that Buttigieg, despite his strong showing in Iowa, can put together a coalition of Democratic voters that can win a general election. Specifically, the former South Bend mayor has failed to gather much support from black Americans even as the Trump campaign makes its own appeal to these voters.

Indeed, President Trump’s State of the Union speech Tuesday night seemed tailored to appeal to black and Hispanic voters, touting record-low levels of minority unemployment, job growth, wage growth, and highlighting policies like school choice that would disproportionately advantage black Americans—a point Trump drove home by including fourth-grader Janiyah Davis and her mother among White House special guests to the speech.

Black Americans might traditionally vote Democrat, but they lean more conservative on social issues than their white counterparts in the Democratic Party, as do Hispanics. What’s more, as the Democratic Party moves further to the left—a move driven almost entirely by white leftists—the tension between the party’s woke whites and conservative-minded minorities will become more pronounced, leaving an opening for a GOP appeal.

This isn’t just wishful thinking from the Trump campaign. After the State of the Union, CNN’s Van Jones warned his fellow commentators that Trump’s appeal to black voters just might work. “We’ve got to wake up, folks. There’s a whole bubble thing that goes on—‘well he said s-hole nations therefore all black people are going to hate him forever.’ That ain’t necessarily so,” Jones said. “What you’re going to see him do is say, you may not like my rhetoric but look at my results, look at my record, to black people. If he narrow-casts that, it’s going to be effective.”

WAKE UP, folks. The #IowaCaucus was a debacle, followed by a strong #SOTU speech laying out Trump's strategy to win – which includes going for Black voters. This was a warning shot from the Trump campaign to liberals, and we need to take this VERY seriously in order to win. @CNN pic.twitter.com/bgBFms9jtN

— Van Jones (@VanJones68) February 5, 2020

Jones is right, and Trump doesn’t even have to peel off that many minority voters to disrupt the Democratic coalition. Democrats might do that themselves before the general election. It might be enough for Biden simply to get knocked out of the running, which could keep black voters from turning out in significant numbers. With a nominee like Buttigieg, that’s a real possibility, especially if his campaign can’t figure out how to draw more minority support.

As the Democratic presidential campaigns fan out across New Hampshire this week, that should weigh heavy on the minds of Democratic Party leaders, especially given that Sanders leads in the latest New Hampshire poll, which also shows Biden losing support. Having won the popular vote in Iowa (if not the delegate count), a New Hampshire win for Sanders would give his campaign tremendous momentum going into Nevada and South Carolina, and drastically increase the likelihood of a contested convention in Milwaukee come July.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 06, 2020, 09:33:21 AM
I heard somebody claiming Biden will win in South Carolina....huh?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on February 06, 2020, 09:40:44 AM
I heard somebody claiming Biden will win in South Carolina....huh?

Joe's down there kissing as many babies as possible.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 06, 2020, 10:17:01 AM
https://nypost.com/2020/02/05/its-not-just-iowa-the-entire-democratic-race-looking-like-giant-dumpster-fire/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site+buttons&utm_campaign=site+buttons&fbclid=IwAR06mDDEsNKluHHwY_q2L_3uSt-srRJokUeCCJtBpDQ_n5Cc3YsBRzmb634


Democrat = Dumpster Fire

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on February 06, 2020, 11:09:37 AM
I heard somebody claiming Biden will win in South Carolina....huh?

He has a tremendous amount of the black vote there.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 06, 2020, 12:49:09 PM
Does anyone know if Ruth Bader Ginsburg was at the SOTU Address?

I’m seriously cheering for the grim reaper to come for Ginsburg soon
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on February 06, 2020, 01:01:59 PM
Does anyone know if Ruth Bader Ginsburg was at the SOTU Address?

I’m seriously cheering for the grim reaper to come for Ginsburg soon

I saw only Roberts, Kagan, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on February 06, 2020, 02:52:13 PM
I saw only Roberts, Kagan, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.

thats because she has long since passed, nobody has seen her and they aren't reporting her as deceased imo
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 07, 2020, 04:29:11 AM
Six Women of Color Bolt Warren Campaign
NewsMax ^ | 06 February 2020 | Cathy Burke
Posted on 2/7/2020, 7:21:42 AM by Freeport

Six women of color have left the Nevada campaign of Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., ahead of the state's caucuses, complaining about a toxic environment, Politico reported.And the senator has apologized for what they say they experienced in her organization.

The staffers have left since November, with three saying they felt marginalized by the campaign, the news outlet reported.

"During the time I was employed with Nevada for Warren, there was definitely something wrong with the culture," Megan Lewis, a field organizer who joined the campaign in May and departed in December, told Politico.

"I filed a complaint with HR, but the follow-up I received left me feeling as though I needed to make myself smaller, or change who I was, to fit into the office culture."

Another field organizer, who did not want to be named, said she "felt like a problem — like I was there to literally bring color into the space, but not the knowledge and voice that comes with it."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


 :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 07, 2020, 04:35:41 AM
His campaign on the line, Joe Biden goes missing in New Hampshire
Washington Post via MSN ^ | 2/06/20 | Matt Viser, Cleve Wootson, Michael Scherer
Posted on 2/7/2020, 5:20:06 AM


NASHUA, N.H. - Outside the castle-themed Radisson Hotel where Joe Biden has been staying, his campaign bus was parked and ready for events.

But on Thursday, just five days before the crucial primary here, the candidate was nowhere to be found.

Biden spent Thursday gathered with his top advisers at his home in Wilmington, Del., seeking a reset and perhaps a last-ditch effort to save his candidacy, beginning with a debate Friday night. He held no public events.

Following dismal results in the Iowa caucuses that have rattled many in his orbit, his campaign is now simultaneously trying to lower expectations here - with some suggesting they would consider a finish as low as third place a victory - while also bracing for a second straight difficult Election Day.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 07, 2020, 07:09:03 AM
Six Women of Color Bolt Warren Campaign
NewsMax ^ | 06 February 2020 | Cathy Burke
Posted on 2/7/2020, 7:21:42 AM by Freeport

Six women of color have left the Nevada campaign of Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., ahead of the state's caucuses, complaining about a toxic environment, Politico reported.And the senator has apologized for what they say they experienced in her organization.

The staffers have left since November, with three saying they felt marginalized by the campaign, the news outlet reported.

"During the time I was employed with Nevada for Warren, there was definitely something wrong with the culture," Megan Lewis, a field organizer who joined the campaign in May and departed in December, told Politico.

"I filed a complaint with HR, but the follow-up I received left me feeling as though I needed to make myself smaller, or change who I was, to fit into the office culture."

Another field organizer, who did not want to be named, said she "felt like a problem — like I was there to literally bring color into the space, but not the knowledge and voice that comes with it."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


 :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

“Complaints, comments, advice, and grievances were met with an earnest shake of the head and progressive buzzwords, but not much else."


Ah the cancer is truly beginning to spread.

They are eating themselves.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on February 07, 2020, 07:21:47 AM
So...Buttegieg wins Iowa

Bernie will win NH

Biden will win SC.....


So....is it going to be Bloomberg?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 07, 2020, 07:25:17 AM
So...Buttegieg wins Iowa

Bernie will win NH

Biden will win SC.....


So....is it going to be Bloomberg?

He's the third favorite right now behind Trump and Bernie to win it all according to the betting market.

Could be the last shot to slow down the Bernie freight train that is quickly gaining momentum.

Unless of course Hillary finds a way to steal the nomination at a divided convention  8)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 07, 2020, 08:55:21 AM
If Biden wins SC it's only because the fix is in. Who are his voters? Nobody knows.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on February 07, 2020, 10:43:05 AM
If Biden wins SC it's only because the fix is in. Who are his voters? Nobody knows.

Black voters in SC won't go for communists or mayor pete
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 07, 2020, 11:12:42 AM
No, Elizabeth Warren Isn't Being Erased...Her Campaign Is Effectively Over
Paste ^ | February 7, 2020 | Shane Ryan
Posted on 2/7/2020, 1:47:51 PM by nickcarraway

There’s an increasingly loud cry coming from certain corners of the media following the Iowa caucuses, and it reached its apotheosis Thursday morning with Joan Walsh’s piece in the Nation titled “The Erasure of Elizabeth Warren Continues.” (A few days earlier, she insisted in the same outlet that Warren had a movement that we “just haven’t seen” yet, so she’s clearly pushing this angle hard.) Here’s the crux of her newest argument:

Iowa conventional wisdom says there are only “three tickets out” of the caucuses, and yet coverage has curiously overlooked the woman who got one of them: Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren. From the moment cable networks switched from her caucus night rally speech to Biden’s, Warren has been virtually erased..this despite the fact that Warren clearly beat the Democratic front-runner, Biden, and outperformed her numbers in the final Des Moines Register poll (spiked because of one complaint—one—from a Buttigieg supporter who said she wasn’t asked about him by a pollster), which had Warren in second at 18 percent; with 97 percent of the results in, she finished at 20 percent, in third, with Sanders and Buttigieg effectively tied (though Sanders on Thursday declared victory, and he may ultimately be right).

What Walsh and others want is for Warren to garner more coverage, but that want that coverage to be on their terms, and to conform to their narrative: Warren actually did really well in Iowa! She beat Biden!

The problem is, that story is plainly propaganda. First off, as you see from Walsh’s excerpt above, she only “out-performed” the spiked DMR poll by two points, which is a negligible increase unless it earned her a win. It did not. Warren finishing in third or fourth was exactly what was expected, and it’s exactly what she delivered. The fact that she defeated Biden might have mattered in an alternate universe where Biden performed strongly, but when the biggest story out of Iowa is “wow, Biden really flopped,” simply finishing one spot above him isn’t much of a thorn in one’s cap. In fact, it’s pretty meaningless without an attendant victory.

There are two lanes in this primary, the progressive lane and the centrist lane, and even pollsters like Nate Silver who think the idea of “lanes” is typically flawed have come to the conclusion that they’re demonstrably real in 2020. Coming out of Iowa, there was a winner for each lane: Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg. So if you’re keeping track at home, the three stories that mattered the most and therefore resonated the most—beyond the fact that the caucuses were an embarrassing and irredeemable clusterfuck on an organizational level—are, in no particular order:

—Pete Buttigieg did very well —Bernie Sanders is probably the frontrunner now —Joe Biden, previously the frontrunner, suffered a shocking and admitted “gut punch” and may be doomed

No dispassionate observer could see these three stories and still conclude that a fourth, “candidate who peaked in October, has faded since, and finished basically right where we thought she’d finish” deserves to share headline space.

Now, if we did want to throw more coverage Warren’s way, here’s what that would look like:

“Elizabeth Warren is fading, and her candidacy is all but dead.” That may sound harsh, but it’s honest. She’s polling behind Bernie Sanders in just about every primary state on the calendar, her national numbers continue to dip (she’s a distant third now, but in danger of slipping below Buttigieg and even Bloomberg), and her only “lead” in the entire country comes from a Massachusetts poll from October. In New Hampshire’s primary on Tuesday, her best case scenario appears to be third place.

Of course, more neutral outlets recognize this, as we see from recent headlines that fall into the Warren-centric category: —”After disappointing Iowa vote, Warren says she needs to be ‘careful’ with money,” Washington Post

—”Biden and Warren shift strategies after Iowa ‘gut punch,’” Washington Post

—”Warren tries to reassure New Hampshire voters after Iowa performance,” WBUR

A look at the demographics from Iowa makes the story look even worse for Warren: She lost to Bernie Sanders among women overall, women under the age of 44, young people in general, nonwhite voters (here, alarmingly for her campaign, she also lost to Buttigieg and Biden), nonwhite women, voters without a college degree, “very liberal” voters, “somewhat liberal” voters, “moderate” voters, and voters making less than $100,000 in household income at every level down to the poverty line.

Where did she win? You have to look hard, but the only two categories that favored her were college-educated women and urban college voters. What this says is what her supporters have feared from the beginning: She appeals to a very limited demographic that will vote Democrat no matter what in the general election, has failed to expand her base, and loses to the other progressive candidate by sometimes whopping totals everywhere it matters. And in the meantime, she’s hemorrhaging money.

An honest evaluation of Warren’s candidacy at this point shows that she’s drawing dead. There’s no better way to say it, and those like Joan Walsh who believe she deserves more media coverage should be careful what they wish for. Walsh may want to believe there’s a secret movement about to rise up and lift Warren to the nomination, but the hard truth is that she’ll be lucky to make it to Super Tuesday.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 08, 2020, 09:23:02 AM
Biden is just physically unable to do this:


His campaign on the line, Joe Biden goes missing in New Hampshire

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/his-campaign-on-the-line-joe-biden-goes-missing-in-new-hampshire/ar-BBZJV2R



Biden spent Thursday gathered with his top advisers sleeping at his home in Wilmington, Del., seeking a reset and perhaps a last-ditch effort to save his candidacy, beginning with a debate Friday night. He held no public events.


Fixed
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on February 08, 2020, 09:32:17 AM
Watched some of the debate last night.

Biden looked and sounded bad.

What a bunch of minor league players.  Strictly A-ball.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 08, 2020, 09:36:05 AM
In the Democrat debate every candidate screamed about systemic racism, lower wages, less chance of an education, higher poverty, higher incarceration rates, higher welfare rates, more drug use, more violence, and higher unemployment in the black community.

And every single candidate blamed white people completely for this.

When will an honest candidate finally hold the black community at least partially responsible for this? Jesus Christ Tom Steyer tried to buy votes with the old reparations bullshit.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on February 08, 2020, 10:53:13 AM
Steyer is pitiful.

Hedge fund billionaire trying to be for the little man.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on February 08, 2020, 11:45:58 AM
In the Democrat debate every candidate screamed about systemic racism, lower wages, less chance of an education, higher poverty, higher incarceration rates, higher welfare rates, more drug use, more violence, and higher unemployment in the black community.

And every single candidate blamed white people completely for this.

When will an honest candidate finally hold the black community at least partially responsible for this? Jesus Christ Tom Steyer tried to buy votes with the old reparations bullshit.

They should all be permanently deported to Chicago. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 08, 2020, 12:23:59 PM
Welcome back to reality Chris Matthews. The establishment dems are scared stiff of Bernie.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 08, 2020, 03:36:27 PM
In the Democrat debate every candidate screamed about systemic racism, lower wages, less chance of an education, higher poverty, higher incarceration rates, higher welfare rates, more drug use, more violence, and higher unemployment in the black community.

And every single candidate blamed white people completely for this.

When will an honest candidate finally hold the black community at least partially responsible for this? Jesus Christ Tom Steyer tried to buy votes with the old reparations bullshit.


Not a joke, this is the last Republican Mayor of Chicago:



https://www.chipublib.org/mayor-william-hale-thompson-biography/

Mayor William Hale Thompson Biography
Mayor of Chicago, 1915-1923, 1927-1931
Republican Party
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 09, 2020, 06:38:48 AM
Michael Bloomberg surges to 2nd place in betting markets

(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/tw_image_6_4/public/gettyimages-1198667460.jpg.webp?itok=vPnld3Tu&resize=360x360)


Americans may not be betting on Michael Bloomberg yet, but betting markets still think he's got a chance.

The former New York City mayor has totally leapfrogged former Vice President Joe Biden in an average of betting markets, RealClearPolitics' average shows. Bloomberg has a 19 percent chance of winning, per ElectionBettingOdds.com, while PredictIt's betting market gives Bloomberg a 23-cent "yes" price to Sen. Bernie Sanders' (I-Vt.) 43 cents.

Bloomberg's rise coincides with a major drop in Biden's betting chances, likely stemming from the former vice president's dismal performance in Monday's Iowa caucuses. Even former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg has come close to surpassing Biden in RealClearPolitics' average, and he did so decisively on PredictIt. Still, ElectionBettingOdds.com has President Trump with the best chance of winning the whole election this fall, giving him a 59.5 percent chance to Sanders' 14.8 percent and Bloomberg's 10 percent.

The Biden drop was also good news for Sanders. He surpassed Biden on the betting markets in late January, and is now far and away the top candidate to win the Democratic nomination. Sanders, and according to RealClearPolitics' betting markets average, no top-ranking candidate has put that much space between themselves and second place since Sen. Elizabeth Warren's (D-Mass.) bump in October of last year.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/894631/michael-bloomberg-surges-2nd-place-betting-markets
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on February 09, 2020, 08:18:31 AM
Michael Bloomberg surges to 2nd place in betting markets

(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/tw_image_6_4/public/gettyimages-1198667460.jpg.webp?itok=vPnld3Tu&resize=360x360)


Americans may not be betting on Michael Bloomberg yet, but betting markets still think he's got a chance.

The former New York City mayor has totally leapfrogged former Vice President Joe Biden in an average of betting markets, RealClearPolitics' average shows. Bloomberg has a 19 percent chance of winning, per ElectionBettingOdds.com, while PredictIt's betting market gives Bloomberg a 23-cent "yes" price to Sen. Bernie Sanders' (I-Vt.) 43 cents.

Bloomberg's rise coincides with a major drop in Biden's betting chances, likely stemming from the former vice president's dismal performance in Monday's Iowa caucuses. Even former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg has come close to surpassing Biden in RealClearPolitics' average, and he did so decisively on PredictIt. Still, ElectionBettingOdds.com has President Trump with the best chance of winning the whole election this fall, giving him a 59.5 percent chance to Sanders' 14.8 percent and Bloomberg's 10 percent.

The Biden drop was also good news for Sanders. He surpassed Biden on the betting markets in late January, and is now far and away the top candidate to win the Democratic nomination. Sanders, and according to RealClearPolitics' betting markets average, no top-ranking candidate has put that much space between themselves and second place since Sen. Elizabeth Warren's (D-Mass.) bump in October of last year.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/894631/michael-bloomberg-surges-2nd-place-betting-markets
Bullshit. There's all kinds of underhanded, shady shit going on in the democratic party HQ right now, they're in full blown panic mode.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 09, 2020, 08:33:44 AM
Bullshit. There's all kinds of underhanded, shady shit going on in the democratic party HQ right now, they're in full blown panic mode.

If Bernie did get the nomination, do you think he would win California in the general?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on February 09, 2020, 09:38:26 AM
If Bernie did get the nomination, do you think he would win California in the general?
Unfortunately I see more Bernie stickers out here than any other candidate. Although I would say 80% of the people I talk to are Trump supporters, most seem hesitant to say it or show it publicly since the law allows them to be assaulted and have their property damaged. :-\
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on February 09, 2020, 11:06:29 AM
As an independent, I have no idea how the supporters of the left can be confident in anything, let alone not admitting they've been a mess with the impeachment, their extreme side, and the caucus.

Carville's meltdown the other day should be telling.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 09, 2020, 01:14:58 PM
Unfortunately I see more Bernie stickers out here than any other candidate. Although I would say 80% of the people I talk to are Trump supporters, most seem hesitant to say it or show it publicly since the law allows them to be assaulted and have their property damaged. :-\

I figured it was going to be Biden but I’m starting to have my doubts. He’s just a horrible candidate. With Warren also going down the toilet, looks like Bernie is in a strong position as he’s going to pick up a lot of her constituents.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on February 09, 2020, 01:17:25 PM
Bloomberg is going to be the one.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on February 09, 2020, 01:25:38 PM
I figured it was going to be Biden but I’m starting to have my doubts. He’s just a horrible candidate. With Warren also going down the toilet, looks like Bernie is in a strong position as he’s going to pick up a lot of her constituents.
Bernie is in a strong position but it seems a lot of powerful demoncrats don't like him. Boozeburg has the powerful democrat support but not the people. Either way, I don't think they can beat Trump and in the mean time they seem content to eat each other alive and destroy their own party. Fuck 'em.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 09, 2020, 03:25:55 PM
Bernie is in a strong position but it seems a lot of powerful demoncrats don't like him. Boozeburg has the powerful democrat support but not the people. Either way, I don't think they can beat Trump and in the mean time they seem content to eat each other alive and destroy their own party. Fuck 'em.

Does this refer to time spent on Getbig? Or, did you mean in the meantime?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 09, 2020, 06:40:35 PM
I figured it was going to be Biden but I’m starting to have my doubts. He’s just a horrible candidate. With Warren also going down the toilet, looks like Bernie is in a strong position as he’s going to pick up a lot of her constituents.



If you go by what happened last time and what usually happens AKA the money wins....it could only be Bloomberg screwing Bernie - because he has more money than Bernie can raise. The big money is about to start flowing and the DNC is telegraphing to donors of that ilk that Bernie is not okay with them.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 09, 2020, 06:47:04 PM
This fucking guy..embarrassment from hell:

"At a campaign event in Hampton, New Hampshire, on Sunday, presidential candidate Joe Biden jokingly referred to a young woman who asked him a question as a “lying, dog-faced pony soldier,” according to the Washington Post. There’s video of the incident, which began when 21-year-old student Madison Moore asked Biden to explain his poor showing in the Iowa caucuses"



https://slate.com/culture/2020/02/joe-biden-dog-faced-pony-soldier-john-wayne-tyrone-power.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 09, 2020, 06:53:07 PM
This fucking guy..embarrassment from hell:

"At a campaign event in Hampton, New Hampshire, on Sunday, presidential candidate Joe Biden jokingly referred to a young woman who asked him a question as a “lying, dog-faced pony soldier,” according to the Washington Post. There’s video of the incident, which began when 21-year-old student Madison Moore asked Biden to explain his poor showing in the Iowa caucuses"



https://slate.com/culture/2020/02/joe-biden-dog-faced-pony-soldier-john-wayne-tyrone-power.html

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2020, 06:33:57 AM
Surging Sanders, emboldened Trump unnerve Democrats on eve of New Hampshire
Reuters ^ | February 10, 2020 | by Joseph Tanfani, James Oliphant, Simon Lewis
Posted on 2/10/2020, 6:17:32 AM by Oldeconomybuyer

MANCHESTER, NH - For the past year, Democratic voters have been anxious to settle on a savior capable of defeating President Donald Trump.

The first week of primary balloting was supposed to speed the winnowing of an outsized field of candidates and showcase Democrats’ readiness to take back the White House in November. But an embarrassing meltdown in the Iowa caucus vote count, and a dismal showing by Joe Biden, once seen as the safest choice to unseat the Republican incumbent, have only heightened fears among some Democrats that their party isn’t up to the task.

The early strength of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, the liberal stalwart who has vowed to upend American healthcare and go after corporations and the wealthy, has some voters worried that Democrats will blow their chance to unseat an unpopular president if the party veers too far to the left.

Tuesday’s New Hampshire primary may do little to dispel the collective unease or help bridge the deep ideological split between the party’s liberal and moderate wings. Several recent polls showed the top two vote-getters in Iowa - Sanders and former South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg - as the favorites in New Hampshire.

While the primary season is young, voters such as Millie LaFontaine are already feeling a touch of panic. Interviewed Saturday at a Biden rally in Manchester, New Hampshire, the 69-year-old said she wants to back the candidate best-positioned to knock off Trump, but she isn’t sure who that might be.

“I’d like to vote strategically, but we Democrats are in disarray and I don’t know what strategic is,” she said. “I am afraid.”

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 10, 2020, 06:57:31 AM
Rigged primary?

Voters concerned after Nevada Democratic Party hires former Buttigieg campaign staffer


(https://news3lv.com/resources/media/3c11626a-29b1-47aa-ac43-7eb6d9892879-large16x9_poster_1d2a9fb9d38c4a06baa7fef84161080e.png?1581306043859)


LAS VEGAS (KSNV) — It reached the timelines and Twitter feeds of many voters Sunday that the Nevada State Democratic Party hired a former Pete Buttigieg campaign staffer as its new Voter Protection Director.

Less than two weeks out from the Nevada Caucus and less than a week after the disastrous Iowa Caucus, it was revealed that Emily Goldman, identified as a former staffer of the Pete Buttigieg campaign in multiple screenshots of her social media profiles, had been hired by the state party.


After Iowa and the incredibly tight race there between Senator Bernie Sanders and the South Bend Mayor where Buttigieg has been tentatively announced as the victor though Sanders won the popular vote, much of the attention has turned to New Hampshire, the nation’s first primary, and especially Nevada, the second caucus leading to the Democratic nomination.



    Samuel D. Finkelstein II @CANCEL_SAM

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https://news3lv.com/news/local/voters-concerned-after-nevada-democratic-party-hires-buttigieg-staffer
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2020, 09:35:57 AM
https://www.axios.com/democrats-worst-week-iowa-caucus-1897dc63-341b-4f5d-a274-566c6704cbdb.html


 ;D

Democrat = disarray - disfunction - destruction
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on February 10, 2020, 09:56:09 AM
Hillary to the rescue!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 10, 2020, 12:44:07 PM
James Carville warns of 'end of days' if Dems choose Bernie: 'I'm not interested in being in a cult!'

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James Carville, a political strategist and former top adviser to President Bill Clinton, sounded the alarm Monday about the prospect of Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., winning the Democratic Party's presidential nomination, calling such a choice the "end of days" for the party.

Appearing on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," Carville said the Democrats must defeat President Trump in November or the country will be in an "abyss." But he said many of the candidates, Sanders in particular, are not appealing to enough of the electorate, including African-Americans.

Carville likened Sanders to Jeremy Corbyn, the left-wing leader of Britain's Labour Party who was soundly defeated in December.

“The only thing, the only thing between the United States and the abyss is the Democratic Party. That’s it. If we go the way of the British Labour Party, if we nominate Jeremy Corbyn, it’s going to be the end of days. ... So I am scared to death, I really am," said Carville.

He said African-American voters are not interested in socialism and a revolution and "all this foolishness you hear," but instead want to be sold on a vision for how they "fit into this country."

“If we lose that, we’re going to be the British Labour Party and be out in some theoretical left-wing la-la land,” Carville said, adding that the "country can’t continue" for another four years under Trump.

Carville said he supports Sen. Michael Bennet, D-Colo., for the nomination, hoping the longshot candidate can come out of Tuesday's New Hampshire primary with a strong showing and bring his message to South Carolina. The Louisiana native also compared Sanders' passionate supporters to a "cult."

"There’s a certain part of the Democratic Party that wants us to be a cult. I’m not interested in being in a cult. I’m 75 years old. I’m just not a very culty person," he said.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/james-carville-cult-socialism-democrats-bernie-sanders
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 10, 2020, 01:42:28 PM
Carville just picked up a shirt at Goodwill and goes on TV or what? He used to be a snazzy dresser.

Looks like he's on call for the Clintons again to snipe Bernie when needed.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2020, 01:43:45 PM
Carville just picked up a shirt at Goodwill and goes on TV or what? He used to be a snazzy dresser.

Looks like he's on call for the Clintons again to snipe Bernie when needed.

Carville is a marine - a democrat - yes - but even he knows the crazy train this party is going down and wants nothing to with it 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 10, 2020, 05:37:24 PM
Does Steyer vs. Bernie become the main talking point in South Carolina if Biden bombs tomorrow in New Hampshire?

With an avalanche of cash, Steyer surges in South Carolina


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Tom Steyer has blanketed South Carolina in cash. Over the past seven months, he’s spent $14 million in TV and radio ads, spent over $100,000 on ads in black-owned newspapers, hired 93 staffers, an army of volunteers and assembled the largest state-wide operation of any other campaign.

The billionaire activist has poured more money into South Carolina in a short period of time than anyone in the state can remember — and it’s beginning to reshape the contours of the Feb. 29 primary.

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“The unemployment rate in South Carolina has probably dropped an entire percentage point thanks to the Tom Steyer campaign,” said Tyler Jones, a Democratic strategist based in South Carolina. “Every YouTube video that comes on in South Carolina has a Tom Steyer ad in front of it. And he says things that every Democrat agrees with.”

While there hasn’t been much public polling in the state, Steyer’s been in double-digits in all three surveys released this month. According to the RealClearPolitics polling average, Steyer is second only to Joe Biden in the state, with Bernie Sanders a close third.

In a state where African Americans are expected to cast more than half of the primary vote, the Biden campaign has long held up South Carolina as his firewall due to the large amount of black voter support he has there. Rival campaigns have struggled to close the gap. But as Steyer continues to not only spend big on TV ads but also on local minority media, he's been able to steadily gain ground among some African American voters.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/09/tom-steyer-south-carolina-primary-111580
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 10, 2020, 06:03:31 PM
How much did Steyer pay those folks in the front row to hold signs. Or am I supposed to believe that is representative of his base? Nobody knows who he is, haha.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 10, 2020, 08:55:34 PM
Progressive as f*ck.

Maybe he should have came out for 30 to 40 bucks an hour though...  ???

Tom Steyer pledges $22 minimum wage if elected

(https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_tomsteyersc_021020getty.jpg?width=1600)


Democratic presidential hopeful Tom Steyer just vowed to raise the minimum wage to $22 per hour if he gets elected.

A Fox news article chronicled his announcement, originally made during a campaign block party on Sunday in South Carolina.

The current minimum wage is set at $7.25 per hour at a federal level, though many states have raised it to compete with higher costs of living.

Steyer, a billionaire whose campaign is focused on tackling environmental issues, joins other candidates like former Vice President Joe Biden and Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) as they advocate a $15 per hour minimum wage.

Politico reports that Steyer has reportedly spent approximately $14 million in television and radio ads in South Carolina, and he sees the state as crucial to his campaign’s success as his fellow candidates focus on the New Hampshire primary.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/poverty/482346-tom-steyer-pledges-22-minimum-wage-if-elected
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 11, 2020, 12:10:56 AM
Progressive as f*ck.

Maybe he should have came out for 30 to 40 bucks an hour though...  ???

Tom Steyer pledges $22 minimum wage if elected

(https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_tomsteyersc_021020getty.jpg?width=1600)


Democratic presidential hopeful Tom Steyer just vowed to raise the minimum wage to $22 per hour if he gets elected.

A Fox news article chronicled his announcement, originally made during a campaign block party on Sunday in South Carolina.

The current minimum wage is set at $7.25 per hour at a federal level, though many states have raised it to compete with higher costs of living.

Steyer, a billionaire whose campaign is focused on tackling environmental issues, joins other candidates like former Vice President Joe Biden and Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) as they advocate a $15 per hour minimum wage.

Politico reports that Steyer has reportedly spent approximately $14 million in television and radio ads in South Carolina, and he sees the state as crucial to his campaign’s success as his fellow candidates focus on the New Hampshire primary.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/poverty/482346-tom-steyer-pledges-22-minimum-wage-if-elected

I've now listened to him speak several times.  He doesn't sound very bright.  And when he starts talking about Trump, he sounds like a lunatic. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 11, 2020, 12:14:55 AM
Bernie basically said the same thing.  Intolerant. 

Pete Buttigieg: No Room for Democrat Pro-Life Women in Our Party
CHARLIE SPIERING  27 Jan 2020
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/27/pete-buttigieg-no-room-pro-life-democrats-our-party/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 11, 2020, 12:24:44 AM
She wants to criminalize false information posted on facebook.  How in the world is this woman a presidential contender??

Elizabeth Warren Absolutely Wants the Government To Punish Facebook for Spreading Disinformation
"We need to stop this generation of big tech companies from profiting off of lies to the American people," the candidate told PEN America.
ROBBY SOAVE | 2.3.2020
https://reason.com/2020/02/03/elizabeth-warren-free-speech-facebook-pen-america/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 11, 2020, 12:27:45 AM
'I don't think it's productive': Sanders dodges question on 'wage cap' he once championed
by Tim Pearce
 | February 09, 2020
 
2020 Democratic presidential primary candidate Bernie Sanders refused to say whether he still backs capping the wages of the top earners in the United States.

The senator from Vermont appeared on CNN on Sunday to discuss his campaign for president with State of the Union host Jake Tapper, who questioned the self-identified democratic socialist about a wage cap policy he championed in the 1970s and remained interested in until at least the early 1990s.

"Early in your political career, way back in 1974, you said that it should be illegal to earn more money than someone could spend in his or her lifetime," Tapper said. "You proposed a maximum wage cap on the highest earners."

Sanders dismissed Tapper, asking if the host had also gone "back to my third-grade essay when I was in PS197 about what I said?"

"We can go back to things that I said in the '70s. I don’t think it's productive," Sanders said, later continuing, "This is what I do believe. When you have three people that own more wealth than the bottom half of America, when half of our people are living paycheck-to-paycheck, when 500,000 Americans are sleeping out in the streets, yes, the rich have got to pay."

He added, "We will raise taxes very substantially on billionaires. No apologies for that."

In 1974, Sanders was 32 years old and several years into trying to launch his political career. He ran for governor of Vermont in 1972 and 1976 and ran to represent Vermont in the U.S. Senate in 1972 and 1974. During his second Senate campaign, Sanders told the Burlington Free Press that "nobody should earn more than $1 million."

As a U.S. House representative in 1972, Sanders introduced a Los Angeles Times opinion piece titled, "How About a Maximum Wage?" into the congressional record. Decades later, he remained interested in a national wage cap, which would, in effect, hike the marginal tax rate to 100% for earners past a certain income threshold.

Sam Pizzigati, the opinion article’s author and an Institute for Policy Studies associate fellow, said he spoke with Sanders about the possibility of a maximum wage in the early 1990s.

"He thought that this was something that needed to be explored and considered," Pizzigati said. "He thought it needed to be part of the public discourse, and that’s why he put the information in the congressional record."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/i-dont-think-its-productive-sanders-dodges-question-on-wage-cap-he-once-championed
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 11, 2020, 12:27:53 AM
I've now listened to him speak several times.  He doesn't sound very bright.  And when he starts talking about Trump, he sounds like a lunatic. 

A power hungry billionaire trying to bullshit his way into office.

If he could sign a piece of paper tomorrow to make $22 an hour minimum wage law go through he wouldn't do it.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 11, 2020, 12:32:20 AM
A power hungry billionaire trying to bullshit his way into office.

If he could sign a piece of paper tomorrow to make $22 an hour minimum wage law go through he wouldn't do it.

I agree.  These people sound like a bunch of uneducated alcoholics sitting around a table, drunk, and shouting at each other. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 11, 2020, 05:09:56 AM
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/quinnipiac-nearly-half-of-bidens-african-american-supporters-have-abandoned-him


Biden is going down! 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on February 11, 2020, 07:41:01 AM
Has the DNC told those in NH how they want the votes to come out yet? Just curious.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 11, 2020, 08:33:45 AM
Biden is the boy in the bubble.

He was on Morning Joe this AM...sorta feel sorry for the guy. No idea who would send him $$$.


"I refuse to suggest any Democrat can lose. I think we could run Mickey Mouse against this president and have a shot."  - Joe Biden
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 11, 2020, 09:48:19 AM
Biden abruptly cancels New Hampshire primary party appearance, heads to South Carolina
Fox News ^ | 02/11/2020 | Paul Steinhauser, Madeleine Rivera
Posted on 2/11/2020, 12:34:41



Joe Biden is heading south.

The former vice president abruptly announced on Tuesday morning that he won’t spend primary night in New Hampshire as planned and instead is flying to South Carolina to headline a newly scheduled kick-off rally in the state he’s long considered his campaign firewall.

“We’re going to head to South Carolina tonight,” Biden told reporters as he visited a polling station with voting underway in the state that holds the first primary in the race for the White House. “And I’m going to Nevada… we’ve got to look at them all.”

The campaign confirmed Biden is now canceling his originally scheduled appearance at a primary night party in Nashua, N.H., and will be in South Carolina instead. The New Hampshire party will go on as scheduled without him. […]

Biden, who limped into New Hampshire after a lackluster fourth-place finish in last week’s Iowa caucuses, said Monday night to his supporters: “Stick with me 24 hours and we’re going to be just fine. We’re going to win this nomination.” …

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DONE! 

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 11, 2020, 09:52:23 AM
https://www.thedailybeast.com/theyre-voting-in-new-hampshire-but-this-democrat-just-wants-to-jump-off-a-bridge


ha ha ha !!!!!!   Eat it democrats!!! 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 11, 2020, 11:47:21 AM
New Hampshire could be a big win for Bloomberg
The Hill ^ | 02/11/20 11:00 AM EST | Liz Peek
Posted on 2/11/2020, 12:10:58 PM by Zhang Fei

For all the breathless coverage, the New Hampshire Democratic primary is truly dinky — awarding only 24 pledged delegates, one percent of the 1,990 needed to win. That is even fewer than Iowa. It’s barely worth fighting for, except that, especially in the wake of the Iowa fiasco, New Hampshire will punch above its weight.

The first four contests, including Nevada, will award a total of 155 pledged delegates. If the candidates perform as predicted by today’s polls, Sanders will lead on the cusp of Super Tuesday with 34 delegates, followed by Biden (33), Buttigieg (25) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) (20). Activist Tom Steyer could pick up 10 delegates in South Carolina, where he has talked up policies like reparations that are particularly popular with black voters. Klobuchar could nab a few along the way.

It is important to remember that the March 3 contests dwarf the haul from the four early states. On Super Tuesday Democratic candidates, including, for the first time, Mike Bloomberg, will compete for 1,345 pledged delegates. The biggest states up for grabs are California, with 416 delegates, Texas, with 228, and North Carolina, with 110.

In California today, Sanders and Biden both have over 20 percent of the vote, with Bloomberg far behind at only 4 percent. But, with 800 staffers in the state, his huge ad spend, and his growing list of endorsements from more than 50 party officials in the state, Bloomberg is gaining ground fast. In Texas, he is only at 7 percent, but is quickly opening a slew of offices and, as in California, racking up endorsements. Biden and Sanders lead in North Carolina, where Bloomberg is beginning to run ads; one recent poll gave him 14 percent of the vote.

Don’t underestimate the power of limitless money.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 11, 2020, 11:51:28 AM
https://nypost.com/2020/02/10/sanders-jumps-out-to-huge-lead-in-national-poll-as-biden-plummets/?utm_campaign=iosapp&utm_source=facebook_app&fbclid=IwAR15GW2mNVESF47ey0L4uWr-MYUPnLKxPGeCIBFjRuEtHBtCWerlJeGk3vU


Bernie vs Bloomberg.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 11, 2020, 01:10:21 PM
Most voters think President Trump will win reelection, new poll finds
NBC News ^ | February 11, 2020 | by Melissa Holzberg
Posted on 2/11/2020, 3:10:38 PM by Oldeconomybuyer

MANCHESTER, N.H. -- Two-thirds of voters believe that President Trump will be re-elected in November, according to a new Monmouth University poll released Tuesday. Of those, 27 percent said they think Trump will "definitely" be re-elected, while 39 percent said they feel he will "probably" win again.

The poll also finds that just 11 percent of registered Democrats say their party's eventual nominee will "definitely" beat Trump, while 38 percent said "it is more likely than not" that President Trump will win.

Democratic voters also raised concerns about the party's nominating schedule. Twenty-six percent of Democratic voters said they felt that having Iowa and New Hampshire go first in the contest "makes it less likely" that the party will "nominate the best candidate for president." And that's the argument that some candidates, like Biden, are making on the morning of the New Hampshire primary contest.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 11, 2020, 01:16:52 PM
They should round the 11 percent that think Trump is going to "definitely lose" and take them to the loony bin.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 11, 2020, 01:52:33 PM
https://nypost.com/2020/02/10/sanders-jumps-out-to-huge-lead-in-national-poll-as-biden-plummets/?utm_campaign=iosapp&utm_source=facebook_app&fbclid=IwAR15GW2mNVESF47ey0L4uWr-MYUPnLKxPGeCIBFjRuEtHBtCWerlJeGk3vU


Bernie vs Bloomberg.   

That's the fight right there, isn't it?

I heard the former NY mayor is willing to drop about 2 billion on this race.

As much as I abhor Bernie and everything he stands for, it does sort of seem to be a David vs. Goliath struggle.

Small dollar donations and a significant groundswell of grass roots leftists supporting Bernie versus this uber-rich billionaire who is outright trying to buy an election.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on February 11, 2020, 02:26:22 PM
Our Next POTUS!!

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 11, 2020, 05:07:09 PM
No wonder why Biden ran out of town. Looks like he’s going to come in fifth.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 11, 2020, 05:07:12 PM
Andrew Yang Ends His 2020 Presidential Bid

(https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_2545,w_4526,x_0,y_255/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_655/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1581466848/GettyImages-1204289485_fqp4dt)

Andrew Yang, the businessman turned presidential aspirant whose bid for the Democratic Party’s nomination became a quirky, enchanting, then politically potent phenomenon, announced Tuesday that he will end his campaign.

Yang had been hoping for a fourth-place or better finish in the Granite State, but early returns suggested that he would fall short of those expectations and the decision was made to drop out rather than continue to drain the campaign of resources. His exit from the race leaves only one candidate of color in the primary field: Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, a Samoan-American.

“I’m a numbers guy and if we are below a threshold where we are going to get delegates here in New Hampshire, if we are unlikely to hit that threshold in Nevada and South Carolina, it doesn't seem like we are actually furthering the goals of the campaign by staying in the race longer,” Yang told The Daily Beast in an interview on Tuesday evening. “I’m not someone who wants to take people’s donations, support, time and dedication if I don’t think we have a chance to win or advance our goals in the right direction.”

Yang never became a serious threat to win the party’s nomination. But the strength of his bid surprised national Democrats and raised questions—and tantalizing possibilities—for how the party could restructure its approach.


A newcomer to politics, Yang spent much of the early part of the campaign appearing on podcasts and embracing Internet meme culture to expand his popularity. His platform of giving Americans $1,000 every month as a form of fending off transformational economic trends like automation, along with his demand that tech companies pay people billions of dollars for monetizing their data, proved to be a major draw. And while several establishment candidates struggled to hit the donor threshold numbers needed to qualify for the debates, he exceeded them with ease.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/andrew-yang-ends-his-2020-presidential-bid
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 11, 2020, 05:32:02 PM
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/11/802310701/tech-entrepreneur-andrew-yang-drops-out-of-2020-presidential-race?utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR3Qu9P3LyJTaHBgma0HnE6od7zr0b2q-5Oh6d7-AxKv4hPM6T_5AKtyZJs&fbclid=IwAR0M4XaZx0PVKxy2KD_KjbiTaySJCMjTrcN_CW2ZjU1j8t56tsz3XQLmLvc




Yang yanks himself out of the race.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 11, 2020, 06:40:15 PM
The weeding out process continues. If you think about it, we are just seeing the worse versions of the "better" candidates drop off today.


Steyer is a worse version of Bloomberg....and clueless.

Although interesting to listen to..Yang is a worse version of Bernie and was never exposed for not being some sort of whiz kid. He's not a billionaire tech guy as was inferred...not even close. Come back in 10 years when you've done more.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 11, 2020, 06:41:01 PM
Biden and Warren get zero delegates? OUCH.

This in in their backyard. TOAST.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 11, 2020, 07:22:35 PM
Biden and Warren get zero delegates? OUCH.

This in in their backyard. TOAST.

I think they are saying Bidens strongpoint is more diverse areas. Ohia was 90% white I think. But yeah.. not what he was expecting
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on February 11, 2020, 08:24:17 PM
Feel The Bern!!

FREE STUFF FOR ALL!!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 11, 2020, 08:30:34 PM
Strawboy on suicide watch....
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on February 11, 2020, 08:53:02 PM
Wait what?

ButtBoy LOST the Iowa popular vote but won the delegate count.

Why is that not front page news?

Why are Democrats and the media not talking about the end of Democracy and freedom?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 11, 2020, 09:27:13 PM
Strawboy on suicide watch....



"borsen8" mysteriously taking up the slack.  :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 11, 2020, 09:29:24 PM
(https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/2020-02-11_18-08-30.jpg?itok=MsHeRqCS)




Pretty sure this is more votes than Mayor Pete ever got in a real election.  ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on February 12, 2020, 12:28:58 AM
Wait what?

ButtBoy LOST the Iowa popular vote but won the delegate count.

Why is that not front page news?

Why are Democrats and the media not talking about the end of Democracy and freedom?

Ha ha They 2 Faced Fcuking Hypocrites - Complete Bunch of Fucktards.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2020, 01:38:20 AM
Tucker just said Tom Steyer has dropped out

Looks like Tucker is wrong.

Tom Steyer: 'I'm not dropping out. That's ridiculous.'
Speaking to reporters in Reno, Nevada, Democratic presidential candidate Tom Steyer says he's not dropping out of the 2020 race and is looking forward to the Nevada caucuses.
Source: CNN
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 12, 2020, 02:59:58 AM
I think they are saying Bidens strongpoint is more diverse areas. Ohia was 90% white I think. But yeah.. not what he was expecting

It is pretty funny that the Democrats, who go on and on about diversity and racism, how have as their front runner the senator from the second whitest state in the country, Vermont, with the whitest being right next-door, Maine.

I’m familiar with that neck of the woods. If you’ve ever seen the crowd at a Phish concert, that’s Vermont in a nutshell. Ain’t no brothers in attendance.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 12, 2020, 04:48:42 AM
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/02/bidens-campaign-was-a-disaster-for-liberalism-and-his-party.html

BIDEN = FAIL
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 12, 2020, 05:06:33 AM
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/02/bidens-campaign-was-a-disaster-for-liberalism-and-his-party.html

BIDEN = FAIL

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/12/joe-biden-campaign-collapse.html

BIDEN = FAIL
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 12, 2020, 05:50:05 AM
Looks like Tucker is wrong.

Tom Steyer: 'I'm not dropping out. That's ridiculous.'
Speaking to reporters in Reno, Nevada, Democratic presidential candidate Tom Steyer says he's not dropping out of the 2020 race and is looking forward to the Nevada caucuses.
Source: CNN


I went ahead and deleted that post.

Sounded ridiculous when I heard it considering how well he is polling in South Carolina.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 12, 2020, 06:03:56 AM
Culinary Union says Bernie Sanders would end its health care (“NV political force”)
KTVZ ^ | Feb 11, 2020 | CNN



The influential Culinary Union distributed a flier that says Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders would “End Culinary Healthcare” if elected president of the United States.

The flier, obtained by CNN on Tuesday, outlines where the leading 2020 Democratic candidates stand on health care, immigration and “Good Jobs.” It singles out Sanders as the candidate who will end the union’s health care among the top six Democratic candidates, pointing to his “Medicare for All” plan.

The release of the flier by the union, which is a force in Nevada politics, comes just a week and a half away from the Nevada caucuses. The organization says it represents 60,000 hotel and casino workers in Nevada and provides health insurance coverage for more than 130,000 people. Its organizing abilities have helped deliver the state for Democrats for years. The union has not endorsed a candidate in the 2020 election...

“Some politicians say … ‘You will get more money for wages from the company if you give up Culinary Health Insurance.’ Those politicians have never sat at our bargaining table or been on a 24/7 6 years, 4 months, and 10 days strike line – like we have to make an employer pay for healthcare,” it reads.

“We will not hand over our healthcare for promises,” the flier reads.

(Excerpt) Read more at ktvz.com ...





F bernie - he is a damn communist.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on February 12, 2020, 06:40:00 AM

F bernie - he is a damn communist.   

Truth.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 12, 2020, 08:00:40 AM
I got fooled on Steyer as well. Truth is the determining factor on how long a low polling candidate can continue is how much $$ they have.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 12, 2020, 08:17:05 AM
Bernie Sanders NH Victory Speech: "Our Campaign Is Not Just About Beating Trump, It Is About Transforming This Country"
RCP Video ^ | 2-11-2020 | Tim Hains
Posted on 2/12/2020, 7:41:08 AM

Sen. Bernie Sanders addressed supporters after winning the New Hampshire primary.

(snip)

Sanders name-dropped rivals Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Biden and Warren, promising to "unite together" to beat President Trump. "This victory here is the beginning of the end for Donald Trump."

"Our campaign is not just about beating Trump, it is about transforming this country," Sanders said.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...




F him.  Worthless communist deadbeat loser.  Never worked a day in his damn life. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 12, 2020, 08:30:38 AM
Van Jones: 'People are depressed' by primary process, just want 'somebody to vote for against Trump'
The Hill ^ | 02/12/20 08:56 AM EST | BY JOE CONCHA
Posted on 2/12/2020, 11:19:47 AM by Hojczyk

CNN analyst Van Jones on Tuesday said he thinks that Democratic voters "are depressed" and "sad" over the Democratic primary process, saying that it is a "messy, confusing choice" and Democrats "just want somebody to vote for against Trump."

“I think people are depressed,” Jones said while discussing the large split of Democratic votes. “I think people are sad. I think people can't figure out which of the people they're supposed to vote for, and people are waiting to come out and vote against Trump.”

"This is a messy, confusing choice," the former Obama adviser continued. "People are sad and depressed, and people just want somebody to vote for against Trump."

Jones also called Sanders "a phenomenon" but noted the media talks "about everybody but Bernie" for "whatever reason."

"Bernie Sanders is a phenomenon," he said. "He doesn't get attention. People don't talk about him."

"He's doing stuff we don't talk about, he appeals to young people, people of color, he's got an army of donors," Jones continued. "If anybody else had all that we'd say this guy is our guy. But for whatever reason we talk about everybody but Bernie."

The Nevada caucuses will be held on Feb. 22, with the next Democratic debate in Las Vegas happening on Feb. 19.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


DEMOCRAT = DEPRESSED = MENTAL ILLNESS
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 12, 2020, 08:42:42 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/12/former-goldman-ceo-blankfein-if-im-russian-i-go-with-sanders.html


Yup - Bernie is the worst of the worst - Stalin/Marx/Lenin/Mao/Castro/Chavez et al.     
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on February 12, 2020, 09:23:24 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/12/former-goldman-ceo-blankfein-if-im-russian-i-go-with-sanders.html


Yup - Bernie is the worst of the worst - Stalin/Marx/Lenin/Mao/Castro/Chavez et al.     

He will be brutally criticized for surrounding himself with Cortez/Tlaib/Omar if he gets the nomination.

Democrats will vote against him.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 12, 2020, 10:15:27 AM
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Kja9R5N9sqg/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 12, 2020, 02:08:18 PM
He will be brutally criticized for surrounding himself with Cortez/Tlaib/Omar if he gets the nomination.

Democrats will vote against him.

I want Bernie to get the nomination. We need to have a real debate about Socialism so that the young and clueless understand what they’re signing up for.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 13, 2020, 01:57:51 PM
Nate Silver, liberal pollster savior now says the chances of no nominee going into dem convention equal to Bernie being the clear frontrunner.

Those are your two options. What do?



Side note....middle aged worker at the post office today was telling another worker she was a democrat but they had to get Bernie out of there because he was a communist. No shit..
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 13, 2020, 04:08:58 PM
We all knew these attacks were coming if Sanders began to gain traction.


Culinary Union says Bernie Sanders would end its health care


(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200211232157-02-bernie-sanders-nh-crop-large-169.jpg)

(CNN)The influential Culinary Union distributed a flier that says Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders would "End Culinary Healthcare" if elected president of the United States.

The flier, obtained by CNN on Tuesday, outlines where the leading 2020 Democratic candidates stand on health care, immigration and "Good Jobs." It singles out Sanders as the candidate who will end the union's health care among the top six Democratic candidates, pointing to his "Medicare for All" plan.

The release of the flier by the union, which is a force in Nevada politics, comes just a week and a half away from the Nevada caucuses. The organization says it represents 60,000 hotel and casino workers in Nevada and provides health insurance coverage for more than 130,000 people. Its organizing abilities have helped deliver the state for Democrats for years. The union has not endorsed a candidate in the 2020 election.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/12/politics/culinary-union-bernie-sanders-health-care/index.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 13, 2020, 06:54:59 PM
We all knew these attacks were coming if Sanders began to to gain traction.


Culinary Union says Bernie Sanders would end its health care


(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200211232157-02-bernie-sanders-nh-crop-large-169.jpg)

(CNN)The influential Culinary Union distributed a flier that says Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders would "End Culinary Healthcare" if elected president of the United States.

The flier, obtained by CNN on Tuesday, outlines where the leading 2020 Democratic candidates stand on health care, immigration and "Good Jobs." It singles out Sanders as the candidate who will end the union's health care among the top six Democratic candidates, pointing to his "Medicare for All" plan.

The release of the flier by the union, which is a force in Nevada politics, comes just a week and a half away from the Nevada caucuses. The organization says it represents 60,000 hotel and casino workers in Nevada and provides health insurance coverage for more than 130,000 people. Its organizing abilities have helped deliver the state for Democrats for years. The union has not endorsed a candidate in the 2020 election.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/12/politics/culinary-union-bernie-sanders-health-care/index.html

Medicare for might or might not eliminate private health insurance. Germany has both public and private health insurance.

"German Healthcare: Private Insurance
If your salary is above €59,400 a year, you have the option to access private health insurance in Germany. In addition, civil servants or the self-employed in Germany can also choose private health insurance. About 11% of Germans opt for private health insurance."

"Private health insurance: In 2015, an estimated 10.5 percent of the U.K. population had private voluntary health insurance, with 3.94 million policies held at the beginning of 2015."
private health insurance available to english citizens in England?

"Canadians can purchase supplemental private coverage for services that are not covered by the public plan, but cannot purchase private insurance for basic services. As CBC News points out, private health insurance is “a crucial part of the system,” and Canadians spent about $43.2 billion on private coverage in 2005."

"It is estimated that approximately 65% of all residents are covered by some form of private health insurance in Canada. This ensures that they are able to seek alternative treatment routes in the event that the waiting periods are too long, and ensures that they will have coverage outside of the country in the event that they need it."
https://www.pacificprime.com/country/americas/canada-health-insurance-pacific-prime-international/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 14, 2020, 06:15:22 AM
James Carville embraces Sanders' 'political hack' label: 'At least I'm not a communist'

(https://a57.foxnews.com/media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2020/02/10/931/524/694940094001_6131224562001_6131228497001-vs.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)


Democratic strategist James Carville has said that he agrees with Sen. Bernie Sanders' assessment of him as a "political hack," adding that he'd rather be a hack than a "communist" like the senator from Vermont.

Carville's comments were the latest salvo in a feud that began over the weekend when he attacked Sanders' policies and said he was "scared to death" of his success in Iowa's Democratic caucuses. Sanders, I-Vt., responded by telling CNN: "Look, James, in all due respect, is a political hack who said very terrible things when he was working for Clinton against Barack Obama."

Vanity Fair contributor Peter Hamby tweeted Thursday that he had spoken on the phone with Carville, who told him: "Last night on CNN, Bernie called me a  political hack. That's exactly who the f--k I am! I am a political hack!

"I am not an ideologue," Carville reportedly added. "I am not a purist. He thinks it's a pejorative. I kinda like it! At least I'm not a communist!"

In an interview with Vox published last week, Carville unleashed a scathing critique of his party.

"We just had an election in 2018. We did great. We talked about everything we needed to talk about and we won. And now it’s like we’re losing our damn minds. Someone’s got to step their game up here."

Carville added that he considered himself a "liberal" rather than a centrist -- but Democrats had gone too far to the left even for him.

"They’ve tacked off the damn radar screen," he said, before taking another shot at Sanders for saying that he wanted to expand voting rights for people like convicted Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Sanders, Carville suggested, would be ineffective as president and wasn't representative of the Democratic Party.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/james-carville-bernie-sanders-hack-communist
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 14, 2020, 06:23:46 AM

Bernie Sanders is a Marxist.   


James Carville embraces Sanders' 'political hack' label: 'At least I'm not a communist'

(https://a57.foxnews.com/media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2020/02/10/931/524/694940094001_6131224562001_6131228497001-vs.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)


Democratic strategist James Carville has said that he agrees with Sen. Bernie Sanders' assessment of him as a "political hack," adding that he'd rather be a hack than a "communist" like the senator from Vermont.

Carville's comments were the latest salvo in a feud that began over the weekend when he attacked Sanders' policies and said he was "scared to death" of his success in Iowa's Democratic caucuses. Sanders, I-Vt., responded by telling CNN: "Look, James, in all due respect, is a political hack who said very terrible things when he was working for Clinton against Barack Obama."

Vanity Fair contributor Peter Hamby tweeted Thursday that he had spoken on the phone with Carville, who told him: "Last night on CNN, Bernie called me a  political hack. That's exactly who the f--k I am! I am a political hack!

"I am not an ideologue," Carville reportedly added. "I am not a purist. He thinks it's a pejorative. I kinda like it! At least I'm not a communist!"

In an interview with Vox published last week, Carville unleashed a scathing critique of his party.

"We just had an election in 2018. We did great. We talked about everything we needed to talk about and we won. And now it’s like we’re losing our damn minds. Someone’s got to step their game up here."

Carville added that he considered himself a "liberal" rather than a centrist -- but Democrats had gone too far to the left even for him.

"They’ve tacked off the damn radar screen," he said, before taking another shot at Sanders for saying that he wanted to expand voting rights for people like convicted Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Sanders, Carville suggested, would be ineffective as president and wasn't representative of the Democratic Party.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/james-carville-bernie-sanders-hack-communist
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on February 14, 2020, 08:17:03 AM
Carville is 75 now. 

He'd love for Hillary to jump in.

Dem party is a wreck.  It's been taken over by whackos, each trying to out-whackjob the other.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 14, 2020, 08:35:12 AM
Somehow I get the feeling pre-Obama dems are figuring out how radicalized kissing the asses of a few fringe nuts has made their party.

When Carville seems moderate, you have a problem.

Bernie has a free shit army that cares not about monikers or history. They want the free shit they've been promised for going to vote here and there and run their mouths on social media. Useful idiots.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 14, 2020, 07:02:28 PM
Bloomberg Throws Money at Meme Accounts as Past Racist Policies Resurface

Bloomberg is paying popular influencers to run campaign memes as he faces criticism over his record on stop-and-frisk and his comments on redlining

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The seemingly endless flow of money that billionaire Michael Bloomberg is dedicating to his Democratic presidential run has now crossed over into meme culture.

Accounts with huge followings on social media started posting staged direct message conversations with the former New York City mayor Wednesday night, tagging them as real sponsored ads paid for by the candidate. @KaleSalad, which has 3.5 million followers, and @FuckJerry, with 14.9 million followers, are among some of the massive accounts being paid by Bloomberg’s campaign. In the captions, both accounts wrote “and yes this is really #sponsored by @mikebloomberg.”

Bloomberg’s newest tactic of using comedians, influencers, and meme accounts comes at the same time as his tenure as mayor is being scrutinized. An audio recording from 2015 of the candidate was recently resurfaced, in which he defends stop and frisk and racial profiling techniques used by cops.

Bloomberg claimed he inherited the NYPD’s policy of harassing minorities from his predecessor, Rudy Giuliani, but data provided by the New York Civil Liberties Union shows that the number of stops actually increased during his tenure as mayor by “more than seven-fold.”

Another clip resurfaced this week of Bloomberg suggesting the end of redlining caused the 2008 financial crisis. Redlining is the discriminatory practice wherein banks deny mortgages and loans to low-income and minority communities. In response, Sen. Elizabeth Warren tweeted, “I'm surprised that someone running for the Democratic nomination thinks the economy would be better off if we just let banks be more overtly racist. We need to confront the shameful legacy of discrimination, not lie about it like Mike Bloomberg has done.” She also posted a video to explain redlining.

The Fat Jewish, another popular (and controversial) meme personality, weighed in as a native New Yorker, saying, “From the subjugation of minorities through stop and frisk policies to his hardline anti-marijuana stance, dude is a total hoe.” He rejected Bloomberg’s request to post an ad on his meme account(s).

https://nowthisnews.com/news/bloomberg-throws-money-at-meme-accounts-as-racist-policies-resurface
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 14, 2020, 08:37:02 PM
Bloomberg Throws Money at Meme Accounts as Past Racist Policies Resurface

Bloomberg is paying popular influencers to run campaign memes as he faces criticism over his record on stop-and-frisk and his comments on redlining

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The seemingly endless flow of money that billionaire Michael Bloomberg is dedicating to his Democratic presidential run has now crossed over into meme culture.

Accounts with huge followings on social media started posting staged direct message conversations with the former New York City mayor Wednesday night, tagging them as real sponsored ads paid for by the candidate. @KaleSalad, which has 3.5 million followers, and @FuckJerry, with 14.9 million followers, are among some of the massive accounts being paid by Bloomberg’s campaign. In the captions, both accounts wrote “and yes this is really #sponsored by @mikebloomberg.”

Bloomberg’s newest tactic of using comedians, influencers, and meme accounts comes at the same time as his tenure as mayor is being scrutinized. An audio recording from 2015 of the candidate was recently resurfaced, in which he defends stop and frisk and racial profiling techniques used by cops.

Bloomberg claimed he inherited the NYPD’s policy of harassing minorities from his predecessor, Rudy Giuliani, but data provided by the New York Civil Liberties Union shows that the number of stops actually increased during his tenure as mayor by “more than seven-fold.”

Another clip resurfaced this week of Bloomberg suggesting the end of redlining caused the 2008 financial crisis. Redlining is the discriminatory practice wherein banks deny mortgages and loans to low-income and minority communities. In response, Sen. Elizabeth Warren tweeted, “I'm surprised that someone running for the Democratic nomination thinks the economy would be better off if we just let banks be more overtly racist. We need to confront the shameful legacy of discrimination, not lie about it like Mike Bloomberg has done.” She also posted a video to explain redlining.

The Fat Jewish, another popular (and controversial) meme personality, weighed in as a native New Yorker, saying, “From the subjugation of minorities through stop and frisk policies to his hardline anti-marijuana stance, dude is a total hoe.” He rejected Bloomberg’s request to post an ad on his meme account(s).

https://nowthisnews.com/news/bloomberg-throws-money-at-meme-accounts-as-racist-policies-resurface

Is his entire campaign one of the clearest examples of an attempt to buy an election that we have ever seen?  And it's not going to work.  He's a terrible candidate.  Aside from the fact his policy positions suck, he has zero charisma.  Trump will kill him on the debate stage. 

And I have to say, as much as I don't like the nicknames, "Mini Mike" is pretty darn funny. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 14, 2020, 08:46:07 PM
Mark Levin made a point to call Bloomberg an American oligarch. Truth.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 14, 2020, 09:06:12 PM
Is his entire campaign one of the clearest examples of an attempt to buy an election that we have ever seen?  And it's not going to work.  He's a terrible candidate.  Aside from the fact his policy positions suck, he has zero charisma.  Trump will kill him on the debate stage. 

And I have to say, as much as I don't like the nicknames, "Mini Mike" is pretty darn funny. 

I don't even watch that much television but it seems like every time I look up there is another one of his ads running.

I've read estimates of up to 2 billion that he is willing to shell out for this campaign.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 14, 2020, 09:16:38 PM
Mark Levin made a point to call Bloomberg an American oligarch. Truth.

Levin is almost always on point.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 14, 2020, 09:17:09 PM
I don't even watch that much television but it seems like every time I look up there is another one of his ads running.

I've read estimates of up to 2 billion that he is willing to shell out for this campaign.

I heard he is paying campaign workers a lot of money too. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on February 15, 2020, 12:36:08 AM
It's said that when you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.  DemocRats get up with pregnant dogs.  The sexception to this "rule" would be that Warren, Klobuchar, Gabbard and Buttigieg get "heavy with puppy", i.e., preggers. 

FTN of the Dems.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 15, 2020, 05:16:29 PM
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Mike Bloomberg reportedly considering Hillary Clinton as running mate

Presidential hopeful Michael Bloomberg is reportedly considering Hillary Clinton as his running mate, a prospect that evoked laughter from pundits Saturday who called it a terrible idea.

“Choosing Hillary would be the worst possible choice Bloomberg could make,” said Republican strategist Mike Dennehy. “Picking a two-time loser who represents the past will ensure his defeat in the primary.”

Jason Schechter, communications director for the former New York City mayor’s presidential campaign, said in a statement to the Herald, “We are focused on the primary and the debate, not VP speculation.”

But speculation that Bloomberg would tap the former secretary of state to join his ticket ran rampant Saturday after Drudge Report cited a source close to the campaign saying the former mayor was eyeing Clinton as a running mate.

Two New Yorkers — Clinton calls Chappaqua, N.Y., home — on the same ticket could create a potentially tricky situation in the Electoral College.

But Bloomberg is reportedly considering changing his official residence to homes in Colorado or Florida to avoid the issue.

Still, Clinton remains unpopular among some factions of the Democratic Party.

The latest University of Massachusetts Lowell poll of likely New Hampshire Democratic primary voters showed just 47% of survey takers viewing Clinton favorably and 38% viewing her unfavorably in a state where she beat President Trump in 2016.

“Clinton’s favorables are quite low even among Democratic primary voters,” said John Cluverius, a UMass Lowell political science professor and former political operative. “There’s a sense that primary voters — as much as they have staked a lot of arguments in 2020 as rehashes of 2016 — the last thing they want to do is re-fight 2016.”

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/02/15/mike-bloomberg-reportedly-considering-hillary-clinton-as-running-mate/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 15, 2020, 10:31:42 PM
Bad choice plus ensures he gets "Scalia'd". Who would want to be between her and the Presidency?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on February 16, 2020, 04:46:38 AM
Bad choice plus ensures he gets "Scalia'd". Who would want to be between her and the Presidency?

Exactly.  Talk about a self imposed death sentence.  Choosing Killary as your running mate ensures you ultimately run out of time.  Fast.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2020, 05:29:26 AM
It’s a Sanders/Bloomberg Race Now: Either way, the Democrats Lose
DB Daily Update ^ | David Blackmon
Posted on 2/17/2020, 7:59:46 AM by EyesOfTX

As the campaign of Quid Pro Joe Biden collapses under the weight of its own rank dishonesty and a candidate who is clearly impaired, the high muckety-mucks of the Democrat Party and its big money donors are now going all-in on Mini-Mike Bloomberg. They all know that the nomination this July in Milwaukee of The Commie, Bernie Sanders, would spell certain doom for their party in November, as The Commie would not only lose the presidential contest to President Donald Trump, but also ensure massive losses in both houses of congress.

This dynamic is, in part, why you saw Bloomberg launch his “I’m thinking of picking the Pantsuit Princess as my running mate” trial balloon over the weekend. Mr. Excitement and the party leaders want to gauge Democrat voter reaction, hoping against hope that a Bloomberg/Coughing Crook ticket might mollify The Commie’s gang of leftist lunatic supporters and possibly unify the party for the general election.

Hah. Fat chance.

See, these people know they have a gigantic problem on their hands: As things stand today, it is almost inevitable that their convention will produce a nominee who will divide the party’s voter base. The collapse of Biden, the fast fade of Fauxcahontas and the simple non-viability of Preacher Pete for a variety of reasons means that their nominating contest has now boiled down to a contest between a lifelong communist who doesn’t even call himself a Democrat and a former Republican, a billionaire who only bothered to register as a Democrat a few years ago.

It is a contest between a Commie who is raising tens of millions of campaign dollars mainly from small contributions by tens of thousands of leftists nutjobs and an outright oligarch who is attempting to perform a very public leveraged buyout of the entire Democrat Party. Folks, this is not just a contest between liberals and moderates, as your corrupt news media attempts to portray it, it is a contest between two diametrically-opposed world views, all taking place under a single political party’s tent.

How do you unify that? You don’t.

Before we go any further, take a look at this set of projections produced by Nate Silver and 538.com:

Political Polls @PpollingNumbers .@FiveThirtyEight Forecast on early and super Tuesday states ____ has the best chance of winning:

Sanders: Nevada SC California Texas NC Virginia Massachusetts Minnesota Colorado Tennessee Oklahoma Arkansas Utah Maine Vermont

Klobuchar/Sanders: Minnesota

Biden: Alabama

4,641 8:19 PM - Feb 15, 2020 Twitter Ads info and privacy 1,102 people are talking about this Whose name is conspicuously missing from those results? That’s right: No Mini-Mike. The oligarch who has already dumped over $300 million of his own personal fortune into this race is not, according to 538.com, currently the favorite to win a single state on Super Tuesday, the date on which he has supposedly staked his entire effort. Not one. Damn. State.

Making matters even more perilous for those hoping to prevent a full Commie takeover of a Party in which he is not even a member, Mini-Mike is having a hard time getting his polling numbers up to the 15% threshold in those Super Tuesday states that would allow him to start actually being awarded some delegates. He’s getting close in Texas, where his ads have been ubiquitous for three months now, but is mired in the low single digits in California polls taken thus far.

Meanwhile, The Commie continues to surge in the polls, now having moved past Biden even in one South Carolina poll, ending thoughts of Quid Pro Joe’s unassailable firewall in that state.

The reality is that The Commie has all the momentum in this race and that TV and social media advertising can only take you so far, regardless of how many millions you pour into it. At some point, constant TV ads become so annoying that people tune them out and, if the ads continue, become openly hostile to them.

Once Super Tuesday has come and gone, 40% of the delegates in this race will have been awarded, and The Commie will have more of them than anyone else. Biden will end his disastrous campaign, as will Lieawatha. Klobuchar will hang on for awhile longer, but will ultimately run out of money and have to quit the race, probably before the end of March. Buttigieg will take his boutique vanity campaign all the way to the convention, as he will be the only other candidate who will be able to continue to raise enough money to mount a semi-credible effort.

Thus, the nominating contest for the “party of diversity” will boil down to a battle of attrition between three pasty-faced white guys – because of course it will – two of whom aren’t really even Democrats, the third of whom has never held any office higher than mayor of a mid-size college town in Indiana.

The big problem there for the Party is that all three men have very limited ceilings governing their appeal to voters, and the proportional awarding of delegates in these primaries will ensure than none of them will be able to go into the convention having won the majority of delegates needed to prevail on the first ballot. As things stand today, that almost certainly means that Sanders, who will enter the convention having won the most delegates, will see the nomination taken from him on a second ballot in which all the Party’s “Super Delegates” will be able to vote.

And if you think the violence-prone Sanders support base is going to quietly accept that outcome and unify around an oligarch and his Grasping Grifter running mate, boy, do you have another think coming. Milwaukee will become riot central in such a scenario and the Democrat Party will become unalterably divided.

Sanders himself will most likely just end up being bought off again like he was in 2016 – although the price will be higher this time – so no one should count on a third-party effort with him in the lead. But 40% of the Party’s current voter base will be forever disillusioned, and a good portion of them will become permanently disaffected after seeing the nomination once again stolen from their hero.

For Democrat Party leaders and funders, the only currently-viable scenario even worse than that would be for The Commie to get real momentum at his back and win the nomination outright. That would not only result in massive landslide losses in November, but the end of the Party as they have known it. The Democrat Party would, in that scenario. become America’s version of the British Labor Party, a loud collection of preening radical nincompoops who seldom manage to obtain any lever of actual power.

This is where the Democrats are as of today. If you can see any way out for them, let me know.

That is all.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on February 17, 2020, 05:55:22 AM
I hope they eat shit.  Which is to say, each other. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2020, 06:09:32 AM
Bloomberg Sparks Bipartisan Outrage for Past, Condescending Remarks About Farmers: ‘Ignorant as [bleep]’
Mediaite ^ | February 16, 2020 | Reed Richardson
Posted on 2/17/2020, 8:34:50 AM by richardtavor

Democratic president candidate Michael Bloomberg drew mockery from both sides of the ideological spectrum after a viral clip of him showed the billionaire media tycoon belittling farming at a 2016 business school talk and contrasting it with the “gray matter” necessary to work in the modern information economy.

Bloomberg’s 2016 comments during a sit-down discussion at Oxford’s Said Business School gained attention after a Twitter account with the handle, Pete Mentes, posted a one-minute snippet of the former New York City mayor — who has never farmed — claiming “I could teach anybody in this room” to be a farmer.

“It’s a process,” he went on to say, referring to the agrarian economy 300 years ago, “you dig a hole, you put a seed in, you put dirt on to, add water, up comes the corn.” He then said working in the modern information economy is “fundamentally different, because it’s built around replacing people with technology and the skill sets you need to learn are how to think and analyze and that is a whole degree level different, you need to have different skill set, you have to have a lot more gray matter.”

(Excerpt) Read more at mediaite.com ...

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Trump is going to win 57 states at this point.   ;)

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2020, 06:32:36 AM
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 17, 2020, 07:05:02 AM
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Topless protester confronts Bernie Sanders, de Blasio at Nevada campaign rally

A topless protester disrupted Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign rally in Nevada on Sunday — moments after Mayor Bill de Blasio introduced the Democratic presidential candidate to the stage.

De Blasio had just introduced Sanders to the crowd in Carson City as the “next president of the United States,” when Sanders entered the stage with his wife as the song “Power to the People” played.

That’s when a fully clothed woman jumped up and tried to wrest the microphone out of the Vermont senator’s hand, before grabbing another one from the lectern, and started speaking about the candidate’s support for dairy farmers.

“Bernie, I’m your biggest supporter, and I’m here to ask you to stop pumping up the dairy industry and to stop pumping up animal agriculture,” she said. “I believe in you…” she continued, before the mic suddenly went dead and security moved toward her.

Sanders moved to the edge of the stage as a string of women then paraded across holding images of cows — followed by a topless woman, who gestured to Sanders as members of his security detail positioned themselves between the two.

“This is Nevada. There’s always a little excitement — at no extra cost. Except we have a lot of water on the stage,” he said as he returned to the stage.

The protesters were prompted by the senator’s support in 2018 for legislation that provided emergency financial support for dairy farmers across the country because of the falling price of milk.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/16/topless-protester-confronts-bernie-sanders-de-blasio-at-nevada-campaign-rally/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2020, 07:18:04 AM
DeBlasio endorsement is like getting endorsed by Stalin or Pol Pot.  Good job Bernie you FNG marxist retarded F!!@#$

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Topless protester confronts Bernie Sanders, de Blasio at Nevada campaign rally

A topless protester disrupted Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign rally in Nevada on Sunday — moments after Mayor Bill de Blasio introduced the Democratic presidential candidate to the stage.

De Blasio had just introduced Sanders to the crowd in Carson City as the “next president of the United States,” when Sanders entered the stage with his wife as the song “Power to the People” played.

That’s when a fully clothed woman jumped up and tried to wrest the microphone out of the Vermont senator’s hand, before grabbing another one from the lectern, and started speaking about the candidate’s support for dairy farmers.

“Bernie, I’m your biggest supporter, and I’m here to ask you to stop pumping up the dairy industry and to stop pumping up animal agriculture,” she said. “I believe in you…” she continued, before the mic suddenly went dead and security moved toward her.

Sanders moved to the edge of the stage as a string of women then paraded across holding images of cows — followed by a topless woman, who gestured to Sanders as members of his security detail positioned themselves between the two.

“This is Nevada. There’s always a little excitement — at no extra cost. Except we have a lot of water on the stage,” he said as he returned to the stage.

The protesters were prompted by the senator’s support in 2018 for legislation that provided emergency financial support for dairy farmers across the country because of the falling price of milk.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/16/topless-protester-confronts-bernie-sanders-de-blasio-at-nevada-campaign-rally/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2020, 10:19:27 AM

Skip to comments.

Pete Buttigieg Vows to Open up Obamacare to Illegal Immigrants
Breitbart ^ | February 17, 2020 | CHARLIE SPIERING1
Posted on 2/17/2020, 10:53:07 AM by Hojczyk

The former South Bend Mayor told the illegal immigrant he viewed her as an American, despite her illegal status.

“So, first of all, this should go without saying but it’s important to say out loud that I regard you and all DACA recipients as American as I am or anybody else is in this room,” he said.

In December, Buttigieg also expressed his desire that he would open up taxpayer-funded healthcare to illegals during a conversation with a voter in Spanish.

“So the most important thing for me is that we offer the opportunity for health care to all in our country, and this includes the opportunity to buy this plan of Medicare-for-All-who-want-it,” he said, according to a translation of his remarks.

“That is our solution. And this opportunity to buy this plan is for everyone regardless of their immigration status.”

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 17, 2020, 01:13:52 PM
Are they TRYING to lose?  FFS



Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 17, 2020, 06:27:30 PM
Not exactly Gatti vs. Ward but video of "fight" in the link below.

VIDEO: Fight Breaks Out At Bernie Sanders Rally In Colorado

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DENVER (CBS4) – A fight broke out in the middle of the Bernie Sanders rally on Sunday evening at the Colorado Convention Center. The Democratic presidential candidate rallied thousands of supporters in Denver in a campaign stop before the March 3 Colorado primary.

(credit: CBS)

CBS4’s news camera was capturing video of the event when two men began fighting. They pushed through a metal barrier fence toward the back near the media risers as they grappled with each other and one man knocked the other down onto the ground after lifting him up. They both landed on the ground partially under the stage Sanders was in the middle of delivering his speech from.

(credit: CBS)

Friends of both people quickly intervened and after some more shoving successfully broke up the fight.

It wasn’t immediately clear to CBS4’s crew what the two men were fighting about, but someone contacted CBS4 on Monday by phone and said he is a Sanders supporter and one of the people involved. He said his name is Tyler and that a person with a T-shirt on that read “Black Guns Matter” was with two other men and they were booing during the speech. When Tyler tried to capture video of the booing on his phone’s camera, the man shoved him through the barrier. Tyler then retaliated. It was that action which was captured by CBS4’s camera.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/02/17/video-fight-bernie-sanders-rally-denver/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 18, 2020, 07:55:43 AM
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/02/17/federal_probe_for_james_biden-tied_firm__122447.html


"FBI agents last month raided the home of the CEO of a bankrupt hospital chain and one of its hospitals in Pennsylvania in new signs of trouble for a company central to accusations of influence-peddling by James Biden, brother of former Vice President Joe Biden."

"Lewitt is alleged to have alluded to the Vice President's clout in a text message to Frey to calm the latter's worry about legal liability to his firm over an acquisition: “Jim [Biden] told me. Don’t worry every time someone threatens to sue you you’re with us now nobody is gonna touch you.” According to the lawsuit, “It was Frey’s understanding that Lewitt was implying that DMM [Diverse Medical Management] was 'protected' because of Jim Biden’s connections.” "


 :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 18, 2020, 08:06:41 AM
This guy has his Stop and Frisk. His sexual harassment allegations. And now this is being spread about his comments on farmers and factory workers.

What's the game plan? What's the pathway to victory? Drop a couple billion and spam us all with non-stop advertisements until we are "propagandized" into jumping onto his shitty megalomaniacal agenda?

The more I read, the more I really hate this guy. I hope he wins the nomination so Trump can bury him in front of the entire world.


Bloomberg Sparks Bipartisan Outrage for Past, Condescending Remarks About Farmers: ‘Ignorant as F*ck’


Democratic president candidate Michael Bloomberg drew mockery from both sides of the ideological spectrum after a viral clip of him showed the billionaire media tycoon belittling farming at a 2016 business school talk and contrasting it with the “gray matter” necessary to work in the modern information economy.


Bloomberg’s 2016 comments during a sit-down discussion at Oxford’s Said Business School gained attention after a Twitter account with the handle, Pete Mentes, posted a one-minute snippet of the former New York City mayor — who has never farmed — claiming “I could teach anybody in this room” to be a farmer.

“It’s a process,” he went on to say, referring to the agrarian economy 300 years ago, “you dig a hole, you put a seed in, you put dirt on to, add water, up comes the corn.” He then said working in the modern information economy is “fundamentally different, because it’s built around replacing people with technology and the skill sets you need to learn are how to think and analyze and that is a whole degree level different, you need to have different skill set, you have to have a lot more gray matter.”


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mediaite.com/election-2020/bloomberg-sparks-bipartisan-outrage-for-past-condescending-remarks-about-farmers-in-unearthed-2016-clip-ignorant-as-fck/amp/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 18, 2020, 08:51:30 AM
Just some dumb opinion piece but honestly this wouldn't surprise me.


Romney-Bloomberg: The Unity Ticket America Deserves

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In casting his singular vote to impeach and remove Donald Trump from office, Mitt Romney made history. Now it’s time for him to take a step further. For the good of the country, Senator Romney should run for president as an independent.

With the democratic-socialist Bernie Sanders now the Democratic frontrunner and the political arsonist Donald Trump as the Republican incumbent, there is a yawning chasm that has never before existed in American politics. By retreating to their poles, our two major parties have left tens of millions of independents and moderate Democrats and Republicans unrepresented.

Senator Romney’s entrance into the presidential race wouldn’t just give the vital center of the electorate a home—it would stand a chance to break a system that is stacked against independents and third party candidates. The last major third-party run was in 1992, when Ross Perot won 19 percent of the vote—and he accomplished this while running against two party centrists, in Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush. Against two polarizing fringe candidates with no claim to the middle of American politics, we have no idea what Romney’s ceiling might be. And as Emmanuel Macron showed in France, standing up a new party and winning a presidential election in one motion is not impossible.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thebulwark.com/romney-bloomberg-the-unity-ticket-america-deserves/%3famp
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 18, 2020, 10:17:41 AM
Mike Bloomberg 'Wants Hillary Clinton As His Running Mate', Sources Close To His Campaign Tell Drudge
Daily Mail ^ | 02/15/20
Posted on 2/15/2020, 11:08:10 AM


Mike Bloomberg is considering Hillary Clinton as his running mate, source says

Polling found the Bloomberg-Clinton combination would be a formidable force to take on Trump in the race for the White House
Mike Bloomberg is considering making Hillary Clinton his running mate, a source close to his campaign has told Drudge Report.

Polling found the Bloomberg-Clinton combination would be a formidable force to take on Trump in the race for the White House, the source said.

Former New York City Mayor and Democratic candidate Bloomberg is said to be considering even changing his official residence from New York to Colorado or Florida - where he also has homes - because the electoral college makes it difficult for US president and vice-president to reside in the same state.

Under the Twelfth Amendment to the US Constitution, which provides the procedure for electing the president and vice-president, it states that the two people could not both inhabit the same state as the elector.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 18, 2020, 11:01:26 AM
Just some dumb opinion piece but honestly this wouldn't surprise me.


Romney-Bloomberg: The Unity Ticket America Deserves

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In casting his singular vote to impeach and remove Donald Trump from office, Mitt Romney made history. Now it’s time for him to take a step further. For the good of the country, Senator Romney should run for president as an independent.

With the democratic-socialist Bernie Sanders now the Democratic frontrunner and the political arsonist Donald Trump as the Republican incumbent, there is a yawning chasm that has never before existed in American politics. By retreating to their poles, our two major parties have left tens of millions of independents and moderate Democrats and Republicans unrepresented.

Senator Romney’s entrance into the presidential race wouldn’t just give the vital center of the electorate a home—it would stand a chance to break a system that is stacked against independents and third party candidates. The last major third-party run was in 1992, when Ross Perot won 19 percent of the vote—and he accomplished this while running against two party centrists, in Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush. Against two polarizing fringe candidates with no claim to the middle of American politics, we have no idea what Romney’s ceiling might be. And as Emmanuel Macron showed in France, standing up a new party and winning a presidential election in one motion is not impossible.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thebulwark.com/romney-bloomberg-the-unity-ticket-america-deserves/%3famp

IMO, Senator Romney, age 72, is too old to run for President. Bloomberg is 78. Too old for VP. The median age of the total U.S. population is 38 years. Candidates who represent the majority makes better sense. One problem is that in 2018, among those age 65 and older, voter turnout was 65 percent for women and 68 percent for men. Younger folks must register and vote. They will be the most affected by the outcome of an election.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 18, 2020, 12:27:45 PM
The civil war is heating up within the Democratic party

Bill Maher booed on HBO show after mocking liberals for calling Bloomberg racist

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HBO's Bill Maher drew boos on his show Friday night, with the live studio audience taking exception to the "Real Time" host mocking liberals for calling 2020 presidential hopeful Michael Bloomberg racist over his role as mayor in New York City's stop-and-frisk policy.

"Bernie Sanders won Iowa and New Hampshire. He's also leading in the national polls, which means we have a new front-runner," Maher said in his opening monologue. "Michael Bloomberg? What the f---?"

"Well, Bloomberg must be the front-runner because liberals are calling him a racist," Maher added to a chorus of boos from the audience in Los Angeles.

"Keep booing. That's how you lost the last election," Maher said with a smirk.


The former mayor came under fire primarily from the left earlier this week after an audio clip from 2015 was unearthed in which Bloomberg defended the stop-and-frisk policy in New York City, stating, "Ninety-five percent of your murders - murderers and murder victims - fit one M.O. You can just take the description, Xerox it and pass it out to all the cops. They are male, minorities, 16 to 25."

"That's true in New York. It's true in virtually every city in America. And that's where the real crime is. You've got to get the guns out of the hands of the people that are getting killed," Bloomberg said in February 2015 at the Aspen Institute.

"People say, 'Oh my God. You are arresting kids for marijuana who are all minorities.' Yes, that's true. Why? Because we put all the cops in the minority neighborhoods. Yes, that's true. Why'd we do it? Because that's where all the crime is. And the way you should get the guns out of the kids' hands is throw them against the wall and frisk them," Bloomberg added at the time.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/media/483231-bill-maher-booed-on-hbo-show-after-mocking-liberals-for-calling-bloomberg%3famp
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 18, 2020, 12:30:41 PM
IMO, Senator Romney, age 72, is too old to run for President. Bloomberg is 78. Too old for VP. The median age of the total U.S. population is 38 years. Candidates who represent the majority makes better sense. One problem is that in 2018, among those age 65 and older, voter turnout was 65 percent for women and 68 percent for men. Younger folks must register and vote. They will be the most affected by the outcome of an election.   


This is a very strange idea. Are you saying you would be a better poster on Getbig when you were 38?

I get the age thing as far as dying in office...but POTUS is not like being a brick mason. It's your brain and experience that matters. Most people don't figure life out until they reach the nearly the end.

Not everybody acts worse than their age like Biden. I thought Warren was much younger actually. Guess I associate pie in the sky liberalism with youth.  :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 18, 2020, 12:37:29 PM
IMO, Senator Romney, age 72, is too old to run for President. Bloomberg is 78. Too old for VP. The median age of the total U.S. population is 38 years. Candidates who represent the majority makes better sense. One problem is that in 2018, among those age 65 and older, voter turnout was 65 percent for women and 68 percent for men. Younger folks must register and vote. They will be the most affected by the outcome of an election.   

Prime, let's get serious here...there is no possible way they can nominate Bloomberg.

Bernie will go into the convention with the most delegates and these Bernie bros absolutely ABHOR Bloomberg in light of all the racist and sexist baggage that goes along with him.

I am watching the videos. I am reading the comments.

If they screw Bernie and give it to Bloomberg it will destroy the Democratic party.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 18, 2020, 12:55:34 PM
Prime, let's get serious here...there is no possible way they can nominate Bloomberg.

Bernie will go into the convention with the most delegates and these Bernie bros absolutely ABHOR Bloomberg in light of all the racist and sexist baggage that goes along with him.

I am watching the videos. I am reading the comments.

If they screw Bernie and give it to Bloomberg it will destroy the Democratic party.

President Donald Trump already destroyed the Democrat Party.

Well, what was left of it after eight years of Obama incompetence.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 18, 2020, 12:57:17 PM
Prime, let's get serious here...there is no possible way they can nominate Bloomberg.

Bernie will go into the convention with the most delegates and these Bernie bros absolutely ABHOR Bloomberg in light of all the racist and sexist baggage that goes along with him.

I am watching the videos. I am reading the comments.

If they screw Bernie and give it to Bloomberg it will destroy the Democratic party.

I'm already seeing some black friends of mine who are diehard RATS make excuses for bloomberg comments. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 18, 2020, 01:08:56 PM
I'm already seeing some black friends of mine who are diehard RATS make excuses for bloomberg comments. 

Yeah that's true but Chris, think about ALL those virtue signaling, overly apologetic, self hating, white liberals out there.

There is no way in hell they want to be associated with a guy like Bloomberg and all the skeletons in his past.. ESPECIALLY if it comes at the expense of screwing Bernie out of the nomination, which is exactly how it will play out.

And let's not even forget that Trump will 100% be using this whole dumpster fire of a process in his favor. Trump is the Teflon Don, controversies do not affect him but he damn sure will be bringing up all of Bloomberg's former misdeeds during his campaign rallies AND calling out the mainstream media and their hypocrisy at the same time.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 18, 2020, 01:13:10 PM
It's never-ending corruption for Biden.


Hunter Biden, son of former vice president Joe Biden, was on the board of a trade group that lobbied the Obama administration for increased U.S. aid to Ukraine, according to a report Tuesday.

From 2012 through 2018, the younger Biden served as a director for the Center for U.S. Global Leadership and was connected as well with its affiliate, the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition, The Daily Caller reported. The two groups, which include about 400 larger corporations and non-government organizations, lobbied for increased spending abroad by the State Department’s International Affairs Budget, including a special focus on Ukraine.

At the time, Joe Biden was also advocating for increased U.S. spending in Ukraine.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/hunter-biden-board-trade-group-155344997.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 18, 2020, 01:26:45 PM
I'm calling it right now, there is your Democratic party nominee: Bernie Sanders.

It's like that line from the movie Giant - "Bick, you shoulda shot that fella a long time ago. Now he's too rich to kill."

The time to have stopped Bernie was 6 months ago and now he is simply too powerful.


Sanders surges to double-digit lead in new nationwide poll

Bernie Sanders' support has climbed 9 points to 31 percent since December, when the NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll last asked about candidate preferences.

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Sen. Bernie Sanders solidified his frontrunner status on Tuesday in the race to win the Democratic Party's presidential nomination, building a double-digit lead over the rest of the field in a poll released ahead of Saturday's Nevada caucuses.

It was Mike Bloomberg who seized many of the early headlines from the release of the NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll, which qualified the billionaire self-funder for his first appearance at a Democratic presidential debate. But the former New York mayor finished second in the poll behind Sanders, who finished 12 percentage points clear of second-place Bloomberg.

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Sanders' support climbed 9 points to 31 percent from December, when the NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll last asked about candidate preferences, while Boomberg's support spiked by 15 points to 19 percent. The Vermont senator continued to lead among progressives and those under 45, the poll showed, but he also leads with women and college graduates as well as those without college degrees. He is second among black voters, within the margin of error, behind former Vice President Joe Biden.

Bloomberg led in the poll with moderates and voters over 45, was second with women and third among black voters.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/18/bernie-sanders-frontrunner-nationwide-poll-115753
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 18, 2020, 01:29:19 PM
F him.   POS.   He has the backing of AOC and DeBlasio.   No - F No!!! 

Dirty communist lazy leeching politician - POS.  Bernie can F off w his free stuff promises so long as we check in our freedom cards. 

   

I'm calling it right now, there is your Democratic party nominee: Bernie Sanders.

It's like that line from the movie Giant - "Bick, you shoulda shot that fella a long time ago. Now he's too rich to kill."

The time to have stopped Bernie was 6 months and now he is simply too powerful.


Sanders surges to double-digit lead in new nationwide poll

Bernie Sanders' support has climbed 9 points to 31 percent since December, when the NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll last asked about candidate preferences.

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/6a1f46f/2147483647/resize/463x/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fae%2Fe3%2F8336db8a4308a41f8340f87ff80e%2F200218-bernie-sanders-gty-773.jpg)



Sen. Bernie Sanders solidified his frontrunner status on Tuesday in the race to win the Democratic Party's presidential nomination, building a double-digit lead over the rest of the field in a poll released ahead of Saturday's Nevada caucuses.

It was Mike Bloomberg who seized many of the early headlines from the release of the NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll, which qualified the billionaire self-funder for his first appearance at a Democratic presidential debate. But the former New York mayor finished second in the poll behind Sanders, who finished 12 percentage points clear of second-place Bloomberg.

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Sanders' support climbed 9 points to 31 percent from December, when the NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll last asked about candidate preferences, while Boomberg's support spiked by 15 points to 19 percent. The Vermont senator continued to lead among progressives and those under 45, the poll showed, but he also leads with women and college graduates as well as those without college degrees. He is second among black voters, within the margin of error, behind former Vice President Joe Biden.

Bloomberg led in the poll with moderates and voters over 45, was second with women and third among black voters.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/18/bernie-sanders-frontrunner-nationwide-poll-115753
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 18, 2020, 01:42:03 PM
Landslide? New Poll Of Nevada Suggests Bernie Is Pulling Away
Hotair ^ | 02/18/2020 | AllahPundit
Posted on 2/18/2020, 4:25:53 PM



“Landslide” is a relative term, of course. Bernie’s not going to get so much as 50 percent of the vote in Nevada.

But given the photo finish in Iowa and the surprisingly tight margin in New Hampshire, a comfortable win would be impressive and potentially game-changing depending upon just how comfortable it is. Nevada’s apt to be the last state that’s hotly contested by the big four that have dominated the top tier for the past year. Warren will likely be done after the vote and Buttigieg and Klobuchar may be relegated to de facto also-ran status after their moment in the sun in New Hampshire. By his own admission, Biden needs a second-place finish in Nevada in order to build momentum before must-win South Carolina.

Let’s say he gets that — but that he also finishes 20 points behind Sanders on caucus night, a very distant, dismal second. “BERNIE’S FOR REAL,” the papers will scream the next day. South Carolinians may began shifting towards him. In one fell swoop, all of the competition except Bloomberg will have been marginalized: Warren gone, Pete and Amy dismissed as pretenders, Biden denied the good buzz he was counting on. Even Bloomberg, for all his resources, would begin to look small in the face of “Sanders might be unstoppable” narrative. Everyone’s preparing for Bernie to win Nevada, even rival campaigns, but I don’t know that anyone’s prepared for him to win Nevada going away.

Start preparing. New from the left-wing outfit Data for Progress:



Do we trust a progressive poll that has Bernie out to a big lead and the left’s second choice, Elizabeth Warren, conveniently in second place despite performing terribly in New Hampshire? Hmmmm. Data for Progress also finds Sanders taking 66 percent(!) of the Latino vote, which seems unlikely. This new Univision poll of Latino Democrats in Nevada finds his advantage among that group more modest — but still notable:



The last credible poll of Nevada, taken last week, had Sanders leading Biden 25/18, with Warren third at 13 percent. What if her support starts breaking down before Saturday and the lion’s share begins migrating towards Bernie? If you believe the lefty poll above, there’s more than enough of a Warren constituency to pad Sanders’s numbers impressively if they broke ranks. If Bernie wins this race with, say, 40 percent of the vote instead of 25 and ends up 20 points ahead of the second-place finisher, the “Berniemania!” storyline will dominate all the way up to South Carolina.

And then, if he wins there, up to Super Tuesday.

Nate Silver’s model of Nevada gives Sanders a 68 percent chance of winning the caucus, with Biden next at just 17 percent. Almost as notable as his lead in recent polling is the fact that most other candidates are either right around the 15 percent threshold for viability or below it. Nevada isn’t a delegate-rich state but a resounding Sanders win could further feed the “Berniemania” narrative by letting the media focus on just how few delegates went to his rivals, encouraging the perception that he’ll be difficult to catch after Super Tuesday. Silver, in fact, is already gaming out different scenarios for after Super Tuesday that show just how many ways a high-floor-possibly-low-ceiling candidate like Bernie could win the nomination. This one sounds familiar:

Even if the moderate lane consolidated to just one or two alternatives later on in the race — say, at some point in March or April — Sanders would still be in a pretty decent position. He would probably have a head start on the competition by having won a lot of delegates on Super Tuesday and in the first four states while the rest of the field sorted itself out. Contests up to and including Super Tuesday account for 38 percent of all pledged delegates, so this matters a lot…

Making slow-but-steady polling gains was roughly the path that Trump followed in 2016 to win the Republcian nomination, too. True, Trump had one major advantage that Sanders didn’t: the presence of winner-take-all states, especially later on in the race. (All Democratic states use proportional delegate allocation above the 15 percent threshold.) Still, Trump gained ground later in the race once Republican voters realized that they faced a choice between Trump and a contested convention (which might nonetheless have resulted in his nomination). Democratic voters might act similarly. Maybe a voter would prefer Buttigieg to Sanders in the abstract, but if a Buttigieg win would require a contested convention, while a Sanders win would not, she might feel differently.

There might be a runaway Bernie nomination or there might be a slow-and-steady Bernie nomination. There might even be a contested-convention Bernie nomination. But most roads lead to a Bernie nomination. Which path is chosen may be a pure matter of how much money Mike Bloomberg wants to spend.

Here’s Pelosi preaching unity in service to defeating Trump. We’ll see about that.

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO





I'm calling it right now, there is your Democratic party nominee: Bernie Sanders.

It's like that line from the movie Giant - "Bick, you shoulda shot that fella a long time ago. Now he's too rich to kill."

The time to have stopped Bernie was 6 months ago and now he is simply too powerful.


Sanders surges to double-digit lead in new nationwide poll

Bernie Sanders' support has climbed 9 points to 31 percent since December, when the NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll last asked about candidate preferences.

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/6a1f46f/2147483647/resize/463x/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fae%2Fe3%2F8336db8a4308a41f8340f87ff80e%2F200218-bernie-sanders-gty-773.jpg)



Sen. Bernie Sanders solidified his frontrunner status on Tuesday in the race to win the Democratic Party's presidential nomination, building a double-digit lead over the rest of the field in a poll released ahead of Saturday's Nevada caucuses.

It was Mike Bloomberg who seized many of the early headlines from the release of the NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll, which qualified the billionaire self-funder for his first appearance at a Democratic presidential debate. But the former New York mayor finished second in the poll behind Sanders, who finished 12 percentage points clear of second-place Bloomberg.

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Sanders' support climbed 9 points to 31 percent from December, when the NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll last asked about candidate preferences, while Boomberg's support spiked by 15 points to 19 percent. The Vermont senator continued to lead among progressives and those under 45, the poll showed, but he also leads with women and college graduates as well as those without college degrees. He is second among black voters, within the margin of error, behind former Vice President Joe Biden.

Bloomberg led in the poll with moderates and voters over 45, was second with women and third among black voters.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/18/bernie-sanders-frontrunner-nationwide-poll-115753
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 18, 2020, 02:56:41 PM
Landslide? New Poll Of Nevada Suggests Bernie Is Pulling Away
Hotair ^ | 02/18/2020 | AllahPundit
Posted on 2/18/2020, 4:25:53 PM



“Landslide” is a relative term, of course. Bernie’s not going to get so much as 50 percent of the vote in Nevada.

But given the photo finish in Iowa and the surprisingly tight margin in New Hampshire, a comfortable win would be impressive and potentially game-changing depending upon just how comfortable it is. Nevada’s apt to be the last state that’s hotly contested by the big four that have dominated the top tier for the past year. Warren will likely be done after the vote and Buttigieg and Klobuchar may be relegated to de facto also-ran status after their moment in the sun in New Hampshire. By his own admission, Biden needs a second-place finish in Nevada in order to build momentum before must-win South Carolina.

Let’s say he gets that — but that he also finishes 20 points behind Sanders on caucus night, a very distant, dismal second. “BERNIE’S FOR REAL,” the papers will scream the next day. South Carolinians may began shifting towards him. In one fell swoop, all of the competition except Bloomberg will have been marginalized: Warren gone, Pete and Amy dismissed as pretenders, Biden denied the good buzz he was counting on. Even Bloomberg, for all his resources, would begin to look small in the face of “Sanders might be unstoppable” narrative. Everyone’s preparing for Bernie to win Nevada, even rival campaigns, but I don’t know that anyone’s prepared for him to win Nevada going away.

Start preparing. New from the left-wing outfit Data for Progress:



Do we trust a progressive poll that has Bernie out to a big lead and the left’s second choice, Elizabeth Warren, conveniently in second place despite performing terribly in New Hampshire? Hmmmm. Data for Progress also finds Sanders taking 66 percent(!) of the Latino vote, which seems unlikely. This new Univision poll of Latino Democrats in Nevada finds his advantage among that group more modest — but still notable:



The last credible poll of Nevada, taken last week, had Sanders leading Biden 25/18, with Warren third at 13 percent. What if her support starts breaking down before Saturday and the lion’s share begins migrating towards Bernie? If you believe the lefty poll above, there’s more than enough of a Warren constituency to pad Sanders’s numbers impressively if they broke ranks. If Bernie wins this race with, say, 40 percent of the vote instead of 25 and ends up 20 points ahead of the second-place finisher, the “Berniemania!” storyline will dominate all the way up to South Carolina.

And then, if he wins there, up to Super Tuesday.

Nate Silver’s model of Nevada gives Sanders a 68 percent chance of winning the caucus, with Biden next at just 17 percent. Almost as notable as his lead in recent polling is the fact that most other candidates are either right around the 15 percent threshold for viability or below it. Nevada isn’t a delegate-rich state but a resounding Sanders win could further feed the “Berniemania” narrative by letting the media focus on just how few delegates went to his rivals, encouraging the perception that he’ll be difficult to catch after Super Tuesday. Silver, in fact, is already gaming out different scenarios for after Super Tuesday that show just how many ways a high-floor-possibly-low-ceiling candidate like Bernie could win the nomination. This one sounds familiar:

Even if the moderate lane consolidated to just one or two alternatives later on in the race — say, at some point in March or April — Sanders would still be in a pretty decent position. He would probably have a head start on the competition by having won a lot of delegates on Super Tuesday and in the first four states while the rest of the field sorted itself out. Contests up to and including Super Tuesday account for 38 percent of all pledged delegates, so this matters a lot…

Making slow-but-steady polling gains was roughly the path that Trump followed in 2016 to win the Republcian nomination, too. True, Trump had one major advantage that Sanders didn’t: the presence of winner-take-all states, especially later on in the race. (All Democratic states use proportional delegate allocation above the 15 percent threshold.) Still, Trump gained ground later in the race once Republican voters realized that they faced a choice between Trump and a contested convention (which might nonetheless have resulted in his nomination). Democratic voters might act similarly. Maybe a voter would prefer Buttigieg to Sanders in the abstract, but if a Buttigieg win would require a contested convention, while a Sanders win would not, she might feel differently.

There might be a runaway Bernie nomination or there might be a slow-and-steady Bernie nomination. There might even be a contested-convention Bernie nomination. But most roads lead to a Bernie nomination. Which path is chosen may be a pure matter of how much money Mike Bloomberg wants to spend.

Here’s Pelosi preaching unity in service to defeating Trump. We’ll see about that.

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO






It's a fundamental change within the Democratic party.

The alternative media is now more powerful than the traditional mainstream media.

The Old Guard simply cannot control the narrative anymore and I do not believe they have fully come to grips with that.

Now you have the AOC's and The Squad in power and the Cenk Uygur types knocking on the door looking to add to their political movement.

It's a completely different landscape from even 4 years ago.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 18, 2020, 03:55:04 PM
I detest Bernie and his ilk.


It's a fundamental change within the Democratic party.

The alternative media is now more powerful than the traditional mainstream media.

The Old Guard simply cannot control the narrative anymore and I do not believe they have fully come to grips with that.

Now you have the AOC's and The Squad in power and the Cenk Uygur types knocking on the door looking to add to their political movement.

It's a completely different landscape from even 4 years ago.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on February 18, 2020, 05:54:47 PM
All I see driving around is Feel the Bern bumper stickers..

Sanders is your next POTUS
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 18, 2020, 06:32:35 PM
All I see driving around is Feel the Bern bumper stickers..

Sanders is your next POTUS

TheGrinch, I really am tired of you moping around this forum with your defeatist, blackpill nonsense.

We have all seen your track record, you "settled" and predicted Hillary would win a few short days before the election. Just zero courage on your behalf. Taking the cozy, widely accepted, easy way out.

Meanwhile I was a champion. One of the first in the world to predict a Trump victory.

I want you to get excited about your life!

Pick up that dumbell.

Approach that gal who gives you those nice little tingles.

Step up to that boss and demand that promotion!

Other than that my dude, all I can say is it is painful to read your posts.

I bet you even hate ice cream or a nice sunny day don't you??

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=590768.0

When will you sheep learn that the election is rigged, the POTUS has already been chosen and your "election' is a farce.


HILDOG 2016


end of story...


you either revolt as a country or roll over and die


time to choose
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 18, 2020, 08:09:19 PM
A win for Bernie in his eyes would be debating Trump about the great benefits of socialism. Win or lose it moves his agenda forward, he's not a democrat.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on February 18, 2020, 09:24:25 PM
TheGrinch, I really am tired of you moping around this forum with your defeatist, blackpill nonsense.

We have all seen your track record, you "settled" and predicted Hillary would win a few short days before the election. Just zero courage on your behalf. Taking the cozy, widely accepted, easy way out.

Meanwhile I was a champion. One of the first in the world to predict a Trump victory.

I want you to get excited about your life!

Pick up that dumbell.

Approach that gal who gives you those nice little tingles.

Step up to that boss and demand that promotion!

Other than that my dude, all I can say is it is painful to read your posts.

I bet you even hate ice cream or a nice sunny day don't you??

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=590768.0


lol  my masters have me brainwashed with the sheeple :-)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 19, 2020, 04:53:07 AM
Bloomberg referred to trans-women as ‘it’ and ‘some guy in a dress’ (billionaire nerd strikes again)
nypost.com ^ | 2/18/20 | Vincent Barone
Posted on 2/19/2020, 6:45:21 AM by Liz

After a campaign ad touted the ex-NYC mayor as “incredibly sensitive” to the LGBTQ community, a video resurfaced of Bloomberg referring to transgender people as “he, she or it” and “some guy in a dress” — the second time he’s been caught making such comments.

Bloomberg used the language to warn 2020 Democratic hopefuls against stressing transgender issues, arguing that they wouldn’t play well in middle America.

“If your conversation during a presidential election is about some guy wearing a dress and whether he, she, or it can go to the locker room with their daughter, that’s not a winning formula for most people,” he said at a Manhattan forum hosted by the Bermuda Development Agency. He delivered a similar remark about a “man wearing a dress” while making the same point at Oxford in 2016.

Despite the flippant language, his spokesperson said the candidate stands behind transgender rights and “understands the transgender community has been under attack for decades and the advance of rights has not been equal."

In April 2002, during his first year as mayor, Mike signed a sweeping transgender civil rights bill into law,” the spokesperson told the outlet. “His company provides comprehensive health care coverage for his transgender employees......adding, “as president, he has a comprehensive plan to secure rights for transgender Americans, including the Equality Act, ensuring transgender people have access to affirming health care, and working to end the crisis of violence against transgender women.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...





 ;D  :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 19, 2020, 05:09:18 AM
Revolutionary Bernie Sanders
Townhall.com ^ | February 29, 2020 | John Stossel
Posted on 2/19/2020, 7:20:30 AM by Kaslin

Bernie Sanders leads the race for the Democratic nomination.

He may become America's first self-described "democratic socialist" president.

What does that mean?

Today, when Sanders talks about socialism, he says: "I'm not looking at Cuba. I'm looking at countries like Denmark and Sweden."

But Denmark and Sweden are not socialist. Denmark's prime minister even came to America to refute Sanders' claims, pointing out that "Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy."

Both Denmark and Sweden do give citizens government-run health care and have bigger welfare programs than America has. However, recently, they've moved away from socialism. Because their socialist policies killed economic growth, they cut regulations and ended government control of many industries.

Sanders probably doesn't know that. He, like many young people, just loves the idea of socialism.

For my new video this week, Stossel TV producer Maxim Lott went through hours of Sanders' old speeches. What he found reveals a lot about what Sanders believes.

When Sanders was mayor of Burlington, Vermont, he went out of his way to defend Fidel Castro. "He educated the kids, gave them health care, totally transformed the society!" Fortunately, Sanders added, "Not to say Fidel Castro or Cuba are perfect."

No, they are not perfect. Castro's government tortured and murdered thousands. By confiscating private property, they destroyed the island's economy. Life got bad enough that thousands died trying to escape.

Even now in Cuba, most people try to live on less than $2 a day.

Sanders focuses on other things, like: "They did a lot to eliminate illiteracy!"

Sanders has long had a soft spot for socialist countries. He chose to honeymoon in Communist Russia, where he said people "seem reasonably happy and content." He was "extremely impressed by their public transportation system... cleanest, most effective mass transit system I've ever seen in my life!"

He praised Soviet youth programs: "Cultural programs go far beyond what we do in this country."

He did at least qualify his support, calling the Soviet government "authoritarian."

But Sanders made no such criticism after Nicaragua's socialist revolution. He praised the Sandinistas' land "reform" because they were "giving, for the first time in their lives, real land to farmers so that they can have something that they grow. Nobody denies that they are making significant progress."

Former landowners sure denied it. They'd had their land stolen. Sanders suggested that was OK because landowners are rich.

"Rich people, who used to have a good life there, are not terribly happy," he said. "As a socialist, the word socialism does not frighten me... (P)oor people respect that."

What about the hunger and poverty that socialism creates? Bernie had an odd take on that.

"American journalists talk about how bad a country is because people are lining up for food. That's a good thing! In other countries people don't line up for food; the rich get the food and the poor starve."

After he said he was "impressed" by Sandinista leaders, Sanders added, "Obviously I will be attacked by every editorial writer in the free press for being a dumb dupe."

I join them.

Bernie Sanders is indeed a "dumb dupe" about economics. Or as the Soviet Communists used to put it, "a useful idiot."

Under Ortega's rule, Nicaragua quickly fell further into poverty, and the socialists were voted out in 1990. Ortega later returned as a violent dictator. For most people in Nicaragua, Cuba and other centrally planned economies, life is hell.

Once Sanders was elected to Congress, he mostly stopped praising violent socialist revolutions.

At that time, Communist governments in Europe were collapsing. It was convenient for embarrassed former supporters of those governments to rebrand themselves.

In Congress, Sanders would call himself an independent and, in the estimation of his fellow Vermonter, former Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean, he "votes with the Democrats 98% of the time."

But Sanders has never taken back the enthusiastic praise he gave to socialist regimes.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 19, 2020, 06:57:57 AM
Bloomberg Is Now ‘Highest Spending Presidential Candidate of All Time’
NewsBusters ^ | 2/19/2020 | Joseph Vazquez
Posted on 2/19/2020, 9:17:04 AM by JV3MRC

Liberal billionaire 2020 presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg is willing to spend $2 billion to defeat President Donald Trump, and he continues to put his money where his mouth is. Advertising Analytics, which provides information on advertising spending, said in a tweet that “@MikeBloomberg is the highest spending presidential candidate of all time.” Bloomberg has apparently spent a jaw-dropping “$338.7M on traditional media, surpassing @BarackObama's 2012 record of $338.3M,” Advertising Analytics said Feb. 18.

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TOPICS: Business
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 19, 2020, 08:05:09 AM
Buttigieg on Whether Private Insurance Remains Intact Under His Plan: ‘To Be Honest, I Don’t Care’
Grabien News ^ | 02/19/2020 | Tom Elliott
Posted on 2/19/2020, 11:01:10 AM by tomselliott

"I don’t care.”

The fate of 150 million Americans’ insurance plans doesn’t matter to Mayor Pete Buttigieg, the 2020 candidate said Tuesday.

Appearing at a campaign event Tuesday in Salt Lake City, Utah, Mayor Pete appeared dismissive of Americans’ concerns that a universal health-care plan will mean the end of private insurance plans they prefer over a government run program.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 19, 2020, 08:13:55 AM
Bloomberg referred to trans-women as ‘it’ and ‘some guy in a dress’ (billionaire nerd strikes again)
nypost.com ^ | 2/18/20 | Vincent Barone
Posted on 2/19/2020, 6:45:21 AM by Liz

After a campaign ad touted the ex-NYC mayor as “incredibly sensitive” to the LGBTQ community, a video resurfaced of Bloomberg referring to transgender people as “he, she or it” and “some guy in a dress” — the second time he’s been caught making such comments.

Bloomberg used the language to warn 2020 Democratic hopefuls against stressing transgender issues, arguing that they wouldn’t play well in middle America.

“If your conversation during a presidential election is about some guy wearing a dress and whether he, she, or it can go to the locker room with their daughter, that’s not a winning formula for most people,” he said at a Manhattan forum hosted by the Bermuda Development Agency. He delivered a similar remark about a “man wearing a dress” while making the same point at Oxford in 2016.

Despite the flippant language, his spokesperson said the candidate stands behind transgender rights and “understands the transgender community has been under attack for decades and the advance of rights has not been equal."

In April 2002, during his first year as mayor, Mike signed a sweeping transgender civil rights bill into law,” the spokesperson told the outlet. “His company provides comprehensive health care coverage for his transgender employees......adding, “as president, he has a comprehensive plan to secure rights for transgender Americans, including the Equality Act, ensuring transgender people have access to affirming health care, and working to end the crisis of violence against transgender women.”

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 ;D  :D



Funny how much things have changed in 5-10 years. These old people are scrambling to keep up. Bloomberg might go broke paying for his "apologies".
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on February 19, 2020, 09:47:45 AM
Bloomberg referred to trans-women as ‘it’ and ‘some guy in a dress’ (billionaire nerd strikes again)
nypost.com ^ | 2/18/20 | Vincent Barone
Posted on 2/19/2020, 6:45:21 AM by Liz

After a campaign ad touted the ex-NYC mayor as “incredibly sensitive” to the LGBTQ community, a video resurfaced of Bloomberg referring to transgender people as “he, she or it” and “some guy in a dress” — the second time he’s been caught making such comments.

Bloomberg used the language to warn 2020 Democratic hopefuls against stressing transgender issues, arguing that they wouldn’t play well in middle America.

“If your conversation during a presidential election is about some guy wearing a dress and whether he, she, or it can go to the locker room with their daughter, that’s not a winning formula for most people,” he said at a Manhattan forum hosted by the Bermuda Development Agency. He delivered a similar remark about

 ;D  :D

That’s the party he chose to run with...

Up next, they’ll accuse him of not using gender pronouns on his twitter bio?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 19, 2020, 11:52:31 AM
Unbelievable the way Biden has collapsed. Seems like the DNC knew this ahead of time too. That’s why they were so willing to throw him under the bus during the hearings.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - 2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 19, 2020, 11:54:00 AM
Unbelievable the way Biden has collapsed. Seems like the DNC knew this ahead of time too. That’s why they were so willing to throw him under the bus during the hearings.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - 2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html




Its amazing gaybama had him as his VP for 8 years and wont endorse him. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 19, 2020, 11:57:20 AM
Its amazing gaybama had him as his VP for 8 years and wont endorse him. 

That was a tip off that his campaign was on shaky ground.

Regarding Bloomberg, he was just a shiny new toy but now you’re starting to see the cracks. Sure he’s got a shit load of money but he has no base and no enthusiasm and the left wing of the Democratic Party, which is currently steering the boat, hates him.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 19, 2020, 12:41:25 PM
That was a tip off that his campaign was on shaky ground.

Regarding Bloomberg, he was just a shiny new toy but now you’re starting to see the cracks. Sure he’s got a shit load of money but he has no base and no enthusiasm and the left wing of the Democratic Party, which is currently steering the boat, hates him.

He’s had a pretty big surge in the polls for a dude not in the primaries. I’m interested to see how he does in the debates
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 19, 2020, 12:44:06 PM
‘What the hell’s the matter with your campaign?’
Politico ^ | 02/18/2020 05:24 AM EST | MARC CAPUTO
Posted on 2/19/2020, 2:40:55 PM by

LAS VEGAS — The crowds remain small. The message is the same. The schedule is still light.

Joe Biden is campaigning in Nevada in much the same way he did in Iowa and New Hampshire, where he suffered back-to-back losses that transformed him from frontrunner to underdog.

It’s a testament to the campaign’s sense of confidence — or its state of denial — that it continues to operate as if Nevada, the first diverse state to vote this year, will be different for Biden than the two heavily white states where he was crushed.

One advantage here is that African American voters, who could account for about 13 percent of caucusgoers by Feb. 22, favor the well-known former vice president who served under the nation’s first black president. Biden’s also counting on carrying a significant share of Latino voters — who are an estimated 20 percent of caucusgoers— and moderate whites.

“He has a lot of support among seniors, among people who don’t go to rallies,” said Rep. Steven Horsford, Nevada’s first black congressman who has been close by Biden ever since endorsing the candidate when he arrived Friday night.

Horsford’s endorsement was followed Sunday by the state’s lieutenant governor, Kate Marshall. Along with Rep. Dina Titus, who endorsed months ago, they form a triumvirate of top establishment Biden backers in the state that no candidate has matched. In all, the campaign counts 106 Nevada endorsements and landed an unexpected one Monday: Cher.

The big-name endorsement rollouts have been a staple of his campaign, which continues to hew to the same path. There’s been no major staff shake-up or attempts to load his calendar with additional events. While Biden had a busy weekend campaigning here, with the caucuses just days away Biden had only one stop in Reno on Monday and one scheduled around Las Vegas on Tuesday.

At his Reno event, a voter was puzzled by Biden’s predicament, noting “you’re smart, you’re well educated, you’re experienced, you’ve got class, and you’ve got character ... If you get the nomination in November, it’ll be Mr. Rogers versus Darth Vader. What the heck is going on here?”

“Well, that's a good question,” Biden replied as the crowd laughed. “He complimented me very highly, and then said, ‘What the hell's the matter with your campaign?’ That's a good question. No, no, it's a legitimate question.”

Biden didn’t answer, however.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 19, 2020, 12:47:45 PM
Its amazing gaybama had him as his VP for 8 years and wont endorse him. 

Obama stated that he would not endorse anyone for President in the primaries. So, that he's not endorsed Biden isn't amazing at all.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 19, 2020, 12:49:29 PM
Obama stated that he would not endorse anyone for President in the primaries. So, that he's not endorsed Biden isn't amazing at all.

 ::)   oh FNG please.   GTFO!  He was his VP for 8 damn years! 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 19, 2020, 12:51:42 PM
Biden slams Bloomberg over ads tying him to Obama
The Hill ^ | 02 09 2020 | Tal Axelrod
Posted on 2/19/2020, 3:34:20


Joe Biden unloaded on Democratic presidential rival Mike Bloomberg on Wednesday after the former New York City mayor released campaign ads seeking to tie himself to former President Obama.

Biden, who has repeatedly underscored his time serving as Obama’s vice president, hinted he would bring up Bloomberg’s past criticism of Obama when the two Democratic candidates meet in Las Vegas for Wednesday's primary debate.

“Welcome to the debates, Mike. We have a lot to catch up on about Barack Obama’s record,” Biden tweeted.

SNIP

Joe Biden Bloomberg Tweet

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 19, 2020, 02:45:49 PM
That was a tip off that his campaign was on shaky ground.

Regarding Bloomberg, he was just a shiny new toy but now you’re starting to see the cracks. Sure he’s got a shit load of money but he has no base and no enthusiasm and the left wing of the Democratic Party, which is currently steering the boat, hates him.

They are going to be bringing the knives out for that guy in this next debate, you just watch.

He could spend 50 billion and I still don't think it would be enough. Like you said, too much baggage.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 19, 2020, 02:47:19 PM
lol  my masters have me brainwashed with the sheeple :-)

 ;D

It is a hell of an influence.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2020, 04:09:01 AM
CNN’s Van Jones Buries Bloomberg for ‘Disaster’ Debate: ‘Titanic, Meet Iceberg… Tone Deaf on Issue After Issue’
mediaite.com ^ | Feb 19th, 2020
Posted on 2/19/2020, 11:33:33 PM by Helicondelta

Right after tonight’s big Democratic debate, there was a general consensus on CNN that it went very badly for Michael Bloomberg.

Van Jones put things the most succinctly when he said it was a “disaster” for the former New York mayor:

“Bloomberg went in as the titanic — billion-dollar-machine titanic. Titanic, meet iceberg Elizabeth Warren. She took him to task in a way that I’ve never seen in a debate. She took it over, she prosecuted him. But the worst part about it is for me a lot of African-Americans are placing great hope in Bloomberg, despite the stop and frisk… you’re seeing people trying to move over there, and he just wasn’t ready. He was tone-deaf on issue after issue, and the reason why — he’s not beenin those living rooms, he hasn’t been doing those town halls.”

“His answer on women was terrible, he got destroyed on the NDA question, his answer on stop and frisk was as bad as it could possibly be, and then he basically lied on his answer when it came to redlining,” Jones continued. “He let people down tonight.”

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2020, 04:38:15 AM
You Bernie Suckers Are Going to Get Fooled Again
Townhall.com ^ | February 20, 2020 | Kurt Schlichter
Posted on 2/20/2020, 6:26:30 AM




If you are dumb enough to slobber over a socialist then you’re already inclined toward being a hapless mark, so it should be no surprise that you Bernie dorks are about to get screwed over again by the Democratic Party. Here’s how it’s going to go: Because you are stupid – you support a socialist, so you are presumptively stupid – you think that if you work really hard and win the votes the establishment creeps who own the Democratic Party are going to let you have a say. But, like last time, you won’t get a say. You’ll work real hard – maybe if you worked really hard at actual jobs you wouldn’t be half-wit socialists – and you’ll win the votes, and all your dreams will die as you end up with the nomination going to a malignant midget multi-zillionaire.

I don’t know exactly how they are going to do it – more convenient caucus kerfuffles, super-delegates, shenanigans at the convention – but there is no way your masters will ever let you win. Like I said, you’re socialists, and therefore stupid, so you will get cheated and you will end up having to vote for the Verne Troyer of American big-money politics.

And, like the obedient saps you are, you’ll do it.

Now, at this point, you probably have some complaints about this column. By complaining, you can temporarily distract from the indisputable fact that your own foolishness has put you in the position of being crushingly humiliated by the Democratic elite once again. Let me briefly address your whiny protests.

Yes, I say “socialist” like it’s a bad thing. This is because it’s a very bad thing. Like, to the tune of 100 million corpses bad thing. I’ve actually lived in the ruins of socialism and you, well, you had a man-bunned sociology TA tell you it was swell. And you believed him because you are a dupe. Be glad that I am assuming that you are stupid instead of the only other reason one would ever cavort with these blood-stained goblins: that you are evil.

But he’s a “democratic socialist,” you interject, because you are stupid. Would you feel fine with a “democratic Nazi?” Actually, you probably would, since Nazis are just a genre of socialist with white and black added to the color palette.

Then you’ll claim that the Box Boy won’t be the nominee, no, one of the other pouty posse will get it. Maybe Biden will. You totally want to vote for a guy who thinks his powder-diving, dancer-diddling loser son should totally be getting $83K a month. Man, if you got money like that you could move out of your parents’ place! Or maybe Audie Buttigieg – he seems plausible. No, I’m not laughing! And then there’s Big Chief Sanders Lite. Maybe she could get elected. Really, I’m not laughing. Okay, then Amy Klobuchar – no, I’m not laughing, I’m just scratching my head wondering why she is even still in. Face it. The only viable option besides Vermont Stalin is Scrooge McSuck.

And your next protest will be that Donald Trump is worse than Mini Mike. In fact, you’ll say, Trump is like Hitler combined with…well, Hitler is the only dictator you don’t like, so we’ll just stick with “He’s literally Hitler for real!” Again, you have been suckered. If you were actually raging against the machine rather than aspiring to be a cog in it, you would back him. Now, you may not like it, and you may be too dumb to see it, but Trump is the only disruptor of the establishment in this race. Short Stuff’s gnome-ination is designed to re-establish the establishment. And mark my words: you’ll help him do it.

Yeah, I bet Wall Street is quivering in its collective Guccis over the muffled pitter-patter of the tiny little footsteps of the approaching Bloomberg administration. Bloomberg is not just an eager supporter of the globalist vision but a leading advocate, the Dwarf King of Davos. Trump, not so much. But you’ve been told to hate Trump, and like obedient little ants, you hate him.

In fact, you hate Trump so much that you will vote for the polar opposite of your crusty commie hero even after your preference has been torn from your soft little hands yet again. If you wanted to burn down the system, Trump would be your man. But you don’t...not really. You just want some scraps, like getting out of your loans or making other people pay for your doctor and you’ll be happy. That’s why you’ll give your general election vote to the Stop ‘N Frisk Doughboy even as you assure yourself that the guy who got minority unemployment to record lows is the big, bad racist in this race.

You’ve been had. You’ll cry, but you’ll still go along with the scam as this all plays out.

Suddenly, the media will turn on the Bern in a coordinated attack. Oh wait, that’s happening. Then Frodo Moneybags will start buying off individuals and liberal groups. Oh wait, that’s happening too. Crusty has-been Sam Donaldson decided to show off his new blonde rug during his endorsement; so many more are coming. And I bet it’s not his cash but the power of Mikey’s ideas…okay, now I am laughing.

There will be more primary and caucus “surprises,” except the only people who will be surprised are you suckers. If it gets as far as the convention, your masters will adjourn to the un-smoke-filled rooms and decide for you who you will vote for. And you’ll whine and winge and ultimately obey like the good little suckers you are.

See, you bought into the idea that another four years of prosperity and peace under Donald Trump is much, much worse than reinstalling the party apparatus that has screwed you over in the last two cycles. You’ll ignore the economy, the lack of new wars, the trade rebalancing, and all the other stuff and instead focus on what your masters have commanded you to focus on: that Trump tweeted something mean. Oh, and Russians.

And here’s why you will let the Democrat puppetmasters succeed. It’s because you are stupid. Now, you could stop being stupid. You could refuse to play along. You could even insist Bernie run as a third-party candidate. I like that because it guarantees Trump II: Fossil-Fuel Generated Electric Boogaloo. But it would serve your interests too by forcing the party to recognize and respect you instead of assuming you’ll fall into line once again. But you won’t. You’re all talk and no revolution. Take off that Che t-shirt and put on one with Mini Mayor’s pouty little mug on it. He’s your man. You’re all Bloomberg Bros. Just give it time.

You’re saps, and you’ll take whatever you’re given and tell yourself you like it.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2020, 04:45:25 AM
Morning Greatness: Billion Dollar Bloomberg Takes a Beating in Democrat Debate
American Greatness ^ | 2/20/2020 | Liz Shield
Posted on 2/20/2020, 7:32:18 AM



A fake Indian, a gay guy, a old guy who had heart attack four months ago, a verbally abusive Senator, a confused former Vice President, and a super duper rich gun grabber walk into a debate auditorium…

There was a debate showcasing the Democrats’ presidential wannabees last night. I watched it because I wanted to see how the candidates handled Mike Bloomberg, a new contestant in the presidential sweepstakes. Prior to the debate last night, Bloomberg had avoided public appearances in favor of buying tons of media, paying for influencers to gush over him and otherwise spending his treasure chest to get the nomination. At the debate last night, Bloomberg had to answer questions and face his opponents and his opponents were out for blood because they had actually worked for their votes and support. Generally speaking, people don’t like it when they feel cheated out their hard work. The irony is lost on the Democrats, I am sure.

Now remember, the corporate media and desperate Democrats were propping up Bloomberg as the one candidate who is viable (not a stark raving progressive) who can presumably beat Trump. Bloomberg was the darling, the special one, the favorite. And then the debate happened.

To say Bloomberg tanked is an understatement, he was unprepared for the most obvious attacks against him. It was pathetic.

The end of Michael Bloomberg in 2:19.pic.twitter.com/nN0pGwhkBu

— Jason Howerton (@jason_howerton) February 20, 2020

Sick burn. Bloomberg was caught off guard. Here is how I would have responded: Senator Warren, would you support voiding the NDAs signed by capitol hill staffers who were paid off after being harassed or abused by their employers who are elected office holders? At the very least, would you support releasing the names of the elected officials who victimized staffers at the tax payers’ expense? Yeah, I thought so.

I think the “winner” if there is one, was Elizabeth Warren. She came out fighting and she came off looking very tight. Biden is the other loser after Bloomberg. He has to be finished soon. His performance was “meh”and he needed more than that to show he is viable. Consider how popular Obama was/is. How can Obama’s partner be doing so poorly? Put a fork in him.

As for the substance of the debate, it was business as usual: expensive social programs, open borders, free health care and climate pablum. Lather, rinse, repeat. The caucus in Nevada is coming up this Saturday and Bernie is leading the pack. Who will survive the Nevada caucus?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2020, 05:08:08 AM
Trump blasts Bloomberg’s debate performance as ‘perhaps the worst in history’
NY Post ^ | February 19 2020 | Ben Feuerherd
Posted on 2/20/2020, 3:51:22 AM


President Trump blasted Mike Bloomberg’s debate performance early Friday morning, calling the former New York City mayor’s showing “perhaps the worst in the history of debates.”

Trump made his criticism on Twitter, hours after Bloomberg was used for target practice by his competitors on the debate stage in Las Vegas, Nevada.

“Mini Mike Bloomberg’s debate performance tonight was perhaps the worst in the history of debates, and there have been some really bad ones,” Trump wrote in his tweet.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2020, 05:43:20 AM
https://nypost.com/2020/02/19/michael-bloombergs-campaign-implodes-onstage-in-nevada-democratic-debate/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&fbclid=IwAR2bIFe1IBWbDw5yUtBHyTpR40NRyj77ZAcxlwnbSg0OK7aXsyCL_zz8bQE



Bloomberg implodes
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 20, 2020, 05:47:25 AM
They are going to be bringing the knives out for that guy in this next debate, you just watch.

He could spend 50 billion and I still don't think it would be enough. Like you said, too much baggage.

Spot on.

As a CEO, Bloomberg is used to having his ass kissed all day. He just wasn’t used to that type of hostility. Plus, these people were debate tested as they already had a few races under their belt.

It was unanimous that he shit the bed.

His poll numbers are probably going to plummet.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on February 20, 2020, 05:57:52 AM
Bloomberg was awful, but attacking him about his money is wrong.

His point about Bernie being a millionaire with 3 houses was strong.

Mayor Pete is the most well spoken and articulate and backs up his points.  He's the only one saying "it's not about beating Trump, if the one who wins is equally divisive".  He's right.

Warren just attacks and goes for "gotcha" moments.

Biden is meh, and I still think he has a shot.

Klobuchar always sounds like she's about to cry and is shaking when she debates.

None of them really inspire.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2020, 08:59:44 AM
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2020, 09:43:05 AM
"Panic" 

ha ha ha ha - eat it you libcommies. 

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mark-finkelstein/2020/02/20/morning-joe-debate-trump-big-winner-spades-donny-absolutely
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2020, 12:32:31 PM
Bloomberg surpasses Warren in major endorsements after debate debut
NBC "News" ^ | February 20, 2020 | by Liz Brown-Kaiser
Posted on 2/20/2020, 3:28:05 PM


Mike Bloomberg has officially surpassed Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., in presidential endorsements from members of Congress and governors after his debut on the debate stage Wednesday night.

With the Nevada caucuses set for Saturday, Warren still does not have any major endorsements from politicians in the Silver State. Bloomberg will not be on the ballot in Nevada.

Joe Biden is the sole Democratic candidate with formal support from a Nevadan. Rep. Steven Horsford, the Democratic member for NV-04, endorsed the former Vice President on February 14. Biden leads the pack with a whopping 49 official backings from members of the House and Senate, along with governors of several states.

Bloomberg picked up three endorsements Thursday following his first debate appearance, stealing Warren’s second place spot. The former New York City mayor has a total of 17 endorsements — 16 from U.S. Representatives and one from Rhode Island’s Democratic governor.

Warren now takes the bronze for endorsements with 14 in total.

Bloomberg’s latest endorsements came from Democratic Reps. Josh Gottheimer, Pete Aguilar, and Nita Lowey of New Jersey, California, and New York respectively.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on February 20, 2020, 12:48:36 PM
Bloomberg surpasses Warren in major endorsements after debate debut
NBC "News" ^ | February 20, 2020 | by Liz Brown-Kaiser
Posted on 2/20/2020, 3:28:05 PM


Mike Bloomberg has officially surpassed Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., in presidential endorsements from members of Congress and governors after his debut on the debate stage Wednesday night.

With the Nevada caucuses set for Saturday, Warren still does not have any major endorsements from politicians in the Silver State. Bloomberg will not be on the ballot in Nevada.

Joe Biden is the sole Democratic candidate with formal support from a Nevadan. Rep. Steven Horsford, the Democratic member for NV-04, endorsed the former Vice President on February 14. Biden leads the pack with a whopping 49 official backings from members of the House and Senate, along with governors of several states.

Bloomberg picked up three endorsements Thursday following his first debate appearance, stealing Warren’s second place spot. The former New York City mayor has a total of 17 endorsements — 16 from U.S. Representatives and one from Rhode Island’s Democratic governor.

Warren now takes the bronze for endorsements with 14 in total.

Bloomberg’s latest endorsements came from Democratic Reps. Josh Gottheimer, Pete Aguilar, and Nita Lowey of New Jersey, California, and New York respectively.

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Sounds like people know the Democrats need a more moderate candidate in order to have any chance.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2020, 01:19:22 PM
No, Bernie Sanders, most voters aren't comfortable with socialism
CNN ^ | February 20, 2020 | Zachary B. Wolf
Posted on 2/20/2020, 9:15:03 AM


This is the moment for the ultimate question of the Bernie Sanders movement: is the United States ready for a socialist President?

At Wednesday's Democratic presidential debate, Sanders defended himself as a socialist (he calls himself a democratic socialist) and then dismissed a recent poll that suggested Americans do not have a favorable view of socialism. Who was leading in that poll, he asked the debate moderator? He was, although the moderator didn't know it. The moment allowed Sanders to skate with the impression that it doesn't matter that Americans oppose socialism because clearly they like him.

Polling does suggest discomfort with a socialist President

It is true the Sanders was leading in the poll, conducted by the Wall Street Journal and NBC -- but only among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents when asked who they supported for the Democratic nomination. He had 27% support compared to Mike Bloomberg, Joe Biden and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, each with 14% support. And in a hypothetical matchup, he was narrowly ahead of President Donald Trump.

But two-thirds of all voters -- Democrats plus everyone else -- said they would be uncomfortable with a socialist President. Come November, it will be all Americans over the age of 18 who elect the Electoral College that picks the President. Those results and the questions they raise about whether the country would accept a socialist are repeated in an NPR / PBS News Hour Marist poll. In that poll, Sanders had even more support -- 31% in the Democratic primary compared to Michael Bloomberg, in second place with 19%. Take a look at the party breakdown regarding socialism. Fifty percent of Democrats have a favorable view of socialism compared to 46% who have a favorable view of capitalism.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 20, 2020, 01:23:40 PM
Sounds like people know the Democrats need a more moderate candidate in order to have any chance.

They don't have one. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on February 20, 2020, 01:25:05 PM
They don't have one. 

Relatively speaking, of course.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 20, 2020, 01:31:37 PM
Relatively speaking, of course.

Yeah.  Whichever person wins the nomination is already so far left they are well outside of the mainstream.  Definitely not going to attract independents and crossover Republicans. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 20, 2020, 03:43:27 PM
Bloomberg was awful, but attacking him about his money is wrong.

His point about Bernie being a millionaire with 3 houses was strong.

Mayor Pete is the most well spoken and articulate and backs up his points.  He's the only one saying "it's not about beating Trump, if the one who wins is equally divisive".  He's right.

Warren just attacks and goes for "gotcha" moments.

Biden is meh, and I still think he has a shot.

Klobuchar always sounds like she's about to cry and is shaking when she debates.

None of them really inspire.



I’ve read in a few places that Warren was an attack dog because she’s going to be Bernie’s VP.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on February 20, 2020, 04:01:51 PM
No, Bernie Sanders, most voters aren't comfortable with socialism
CNN ^ | February 20, 2020 | Zachary B. Wolf
Posted on 2/20/2020, 9:15:03 AM


This is the moment for the ultimate question of the Bernie Sanders movement: is the United States ready for a socialist President?

At Wednesday's Democratic presidential debate, Sanders defended himself as a socialist (he calls himself a democratic socialist) and then dismissed a recent poll that suggested Americans do not have a favorable view of socialism. Who was leading in that poll, he asked the debate moderator? He was, although the moderator didn't know it. The moment allowed Sanders to skate with the impression that it doesn't matter that Americans oppose socialism because clearly they like him.

Polling does suggest discomfort with a socialist President

It is true the Sanders was leading in the poll, conducted by the Wall Street Journal and NBC -- but only among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents when asked who they supported for the Democratic nomination. He had 27% support compared to Mike Bloomberg, Joe Biden and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, each with 14% support. And in a hypothetical matchup, he was narrowly ahead of President Donald Trump.

But two-thirds of all voters -- Democrats plus everyone else -- said they would be uncomfortable with a socialist President. Come November, it will be all Americans over the age of 18 who elect the Electoral College that picks the President. Those results and the questions they raise about whether the country would accept a socialist are repeated in an NPR / PBS News Hour Marist poll. In that poll, Sanders had even more support -- 31% in the Democratic primary compared to Michael Bloomberg, in second place with 19%. Take a look at the party breakdown regarding socialism. Fifty percent of Democrats have a favorable view of socialism compared to 46% who have a favorable view of capitalism.

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Bernie Sanders last night:

“Real change never takes place from the top on down, never takes place from an oligarchy controlled by billionaires.”

Hugo Chazez and his billionaire daughter would disagree.  They effected real change in Venezuela.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2020, 04:32:44 PM

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Warren Urges Arizona to Reject ‘Cruel’ Bill Banning Males from Competing in Female Sports
National Review ^ | February 20, 2020 | By MAIREAD MCARDLE
Posted on 2/20/2020, 4:32:36 PM by Oldeconomybuyer

Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren on Thursday decried an Arizona bill that would prevent biological males from competing in girls sports, calling the legislation “cruel.”

“Trans athletes are not a threat,” Warren wrote in a tweet. “We need to protect trans kids - and all LGBTQ+ kids - and ensure they feel safe and welcomed at school. I urge the Arizona legislature to reject this cruel bill.”

The “Save Women’s Sports Act” would assign high-school students to interscholastic and intramural leagues by their “biological sex” rather than the gender with which they identify, grouping biological females together and likewise for biological males.

The bill, introduced by state representative Nancy Barto, a Phoenix Republican, and co-sponsored by 22 other GOP state legislators, is intended to protect female athletes from competing against athletes who possess an unfair advantage over them, Barto claims.

“Female student-athletes should not be forced to compete in a sport against biological males, who possess inherent physiological advantages. When this is allowed, it discourages female participation in athletics and, worse, it can result in women and girls being denied crucial educational and financial opportunities,” Barto said.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 20, 2020, 05:15:13 PM
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Warren Urges Arizona to Reject ‘Cruel’ Bill Banning Males from Competing in Female Sports
National Review ^ | February 20, 2020 | By MAIREAD MCARDLE
Posted on 2/20/2020, 4:32:36 PM by Oldeconomybuyer

Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren on Thursday decried an Arizona bill that would prevent biological males from competing in girls sports, calling the legislation “cruel.”

“Trans athletes are not a threat,” Warren wrote in a tweet. “We need to protect trans kids - and all LGBTQ+ kids - and ensure they feel safe and welcomed at school. I urge the Arizona legislature to reject this cruel bill.”

The “Save Women’s Sports Act” would assign high-school students to interscholastic and intramural leagues by their “biological sex” rather than the gender with which they identify, grouping biological females together and likewise for biological males.

The bill, introduced by state representative Nancy Barto, a Phoenix Republican, and co-sponsored by 22 other GOP state legislators, is intended to protect female athletes from competing against athletes who possess an unfair advantage over them, Barto claims.

“Female student-athletes should not be forced to compete in a sport against biological males, who possess inherent physiological advantages. When this is allowed, it discourages female participation in athletics and, worse, it can result in women and girls being denied crucial educational and financial opportunities,” Barto said.

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I'm all for equal rights but how is this cruel? 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on February 20, 2020, 05:26:20 PM
I'm all for equal rights but how is this cruel? 

As an “Indian American” who experienced decades of discrimination and hardship because of her race, she can empathize with people who claim to be something they are not.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 20, 2020, 05:36:12 PM
As an “Indian American” who experienced decades of discrimination and hardship because of her race, she can empathize with people who claim to be something they are not.

 ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on February 20, 2020, 08:50:22 PM
I’ve read in a few places that Warren was an attack dog because she’s going to be Bernie’s VP.

They're essentially the same, so not sure.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 20, 2020, 11:10:09 PM
Pretty dishonest ad.

Bloomberg Shares Doctored Debate Video To Hide Dismal Performance
The edited video falsely suggests the other candidates were speechless for 20 seconds after the billionaire said he was the only candidate to start a business.
By David Moye
POLITICS 02/20/2020
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bloomberg-shares-doctored-debate-video-to-hide-dismal-performance_n_5e4ed27bc5b6df1e8be446bf?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063&utm_campaign=hp_fb_pages&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=main_fb&section=politics&fbclid=IwAR2GrgxC3N88DpchfblgBcMO_CecPwhTpoToZvaZN4YA2XyOWlQUKTgQb1A
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on February 20, 2020, 11:14:04 PM
Backtracking once again.

Warren reverses central stance on PAC support: ‘That’s how it has to be’

Despite grounding her campaign message in the fight against the influence of big money in politics, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren has not discouraged a new super PAC created this week from boosting her message around the country.

Warren has criticized other candidates for accepting PAC support, and continued to do so even as a new PAC called “Persist” threw its support behind her. Warren has indicated that she will not disavow or reject its support unless all the other candidates do the same.

“So here’s where I stand, if all of the candidates want to get rid of super PACs, count me in. I’ll lead the charge. But that’s how it has to be. It can’t be the case that a bunch of people keep them and only one or two don’t,” Warren told reporters on Thursday morning at a campaign stop in Las Vegas.

Warren similarly stood by the support of the new super PAC on Wednesday night, fresh off the debate stage and argued that PAC support was furthering the gender divide in the 2020 primary.

"I asked on this stage 10 days ago and no takers, not a Democrat would stand up. And I understand how eventually, women looked around and said, 'Wait, let's get this straight, all the guys on this stage have got PACs working for them. The only ones who don't are Amy [Klobuchar] and Elizabeth [Warren]," and they put together a PAC," Warren told ABC News, referring to the three women who are directors of the Persist PAC.

The only candidates who didn’t have super PAC support ahead of the New Hampshire primary were the two women in the race, Warren and Klobuchar, a Minnesota senator, and both have since seen PACs pop up to support them.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pro-warren-pac-launches-ad-campaign-ahead-nevada/story?id=69063505
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 21, 2020, 04:18:27 AM
They're essentially the same, so not sure.

Yeah, that’s the criticism and it’s valid but I doubt they care. Their base won’t accept a moderate who isn’t a leftist.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 21, 2020, 04:43:26 AM
Democratic socialist Bernie Sanders is too far left for Sweden's ruling Social Democrats, official says
The Week via Yahoo! News ^ | February 21, 2020 | by Peter Weber
Posted on 2/21/2020, 7:38:33 AM by Oldeconomybuyer

Johan Hassel, the international secretary for Sweden's ruling Social Democrats, visited Iowa before the caucuses, and he wasn't impressed with America's standard bearer for democratic socialism, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). "We were at a Sanders event, and it was like being at a Left Party meeting," he told Sweden's Svenska Dagbladet newspaper, according to one translation. "It was a mixture of very young people and old Marxists, who think they were right all along. There were no ordinary people there, simply."

Hassel was most "impressed" with Pete Buttigieg, though he also liked Sen. Amy Klobuchar and Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

Some more context: The “Left Party” he talks about in there is the old Communist Party back home in Sweden. (They changed their name around 1990 or so -- wonder why.)

The Left/Communists have worked with the Social Democrats in minority parliaments, but never included in cabinet.

Why would a Swedish Social Democrat favor Buttigieg over Sanders? Well, democratic socialism is different than Sweden's social democracy - the "Nordic model" Sanders touts - "and, unfortunately, Sanders has contributed to this confusion," writes MIT political economist Daron Acemoglu. Democratic socialism seeks to fix the iniquities of the market economy by handing control of the means of production to a company's workers or "an administrative structure operated by the state," he explains. "European social democracy is a system for regulating the market economy, not for supplanting it."

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 21, 2020, 08:53:06 AM
Karl Marx
@realKarlMarx
Bernie is too far to the left for me.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on February 21, 2020, 09:06:30 AM
Democratic socialist Bernie Sanders is too far left for Sweden's ruling Social Democrats, official says
The Week via Yahoo! News ^ | February 21, 2020 | by Peter Weber
Posted on 2/21/2020, 7:38:33 AM by Oldeconomybuyer

Johan Hassel, the international secretary for Sweden's ruling Social Democrats, visited Iowa before the caucuses, and he wasn't impressed with America's standard bearer for democratic socialism, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). "We were at a Sanders event, and it was like being at a Left Party meeting," he told Sweden's Svenska Dagbladet newspaper, according to one translation. "It was a mixture of very young people and old Marxists, who think they were right all along. There were no ordinary people there, simply."

Hassel was most "impressed" with Pete Buttigieg, though he also liked Sen. Amy Klobuchar and Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

Some more context: The “Left Party” he talks about in there is the old Communist Party back home in Sweden. (They changed their name around 1990 or so -- wonder why.)

The Left/Communists have worked with the Social Democrats in minority parliaments, but never included in cabinet.

Why would a Swedish Social Democrat favor Buttigieg over Sanders? Well, democratic socialism is different than Sweden's social democracy - the "Nordic model" Sanders touts - "and, unfortunately, Sanders has contributed to this confusion," writes MIT political economist Daron Acemoglu. Democratic socialism seeks to fix the iniquities of the market economy by handing control of the means of production to a company's workers or "an administrative structure operated by the state," he explains. "European social democracy is a system for regulating the market economy, not for supplanting it."

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Even Swedish leftists/communists find Sanders too far to the left.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 21, 2020, 09:12:09 AM
"European social democracy is a system for regulating the market economy, not for supplanting it."



This is why you have no new and innovative companies coming out of Europe. If you look at the best European companies they’re all 100 years old or more.

************



Johan Hassel, the international secretary for Sweden's ruling Social Democrats, visited Iowa before the caucuses, and he wasn't impressed with America's standard bearer for democratic socialism, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). "We were at a Sanders event, and it was like being at a Left Party meeting," he told Sweden's Svenska Dagbladet newspaper, according to one translation. "It was a mixture of very young people and old Marxists, who think they were right all along. There were no ordinary people there, simply."


That’s Bernie’s base in a nutshell: Decrepit 60s Hippie radicals who never grew up and young hippies who don’t want to grow up.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 21, 2020, 10:27:40 AM
Reid pushes back on Sanders suggestion that a Democrat with plurality of delegates should be the nominee
The Hill ^ | 02 21 2020 | Marty Johnson
Posted on 2/21/2020, 12:59:02 PM by yesthatjallen

Former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Thursday said that the Democratic presidential candidate who has a plurality — but not the majority — of pledged delegates coming into the Democratic National Convention in July shouldn't automatically win the party's nomination for president.

"Here is how I feel about this: I do not think that anybody — Bernie Sanders or anyone else — should simply get the nomination because they have 30 percent of the delegates and no one else has that many," the longtime senator told The Washington Post.

Continuing, Reid said: “Let’s say that he has 35 percent. Well, 65 percent he doesn’t have, or that person doesn’t have. I think that we have to let the system work its way out. I do not believe anyone should get the nomination unless they have 50-[percent]-plus-one.”

Wednesday night's debate in Las Vegas featured six candidates, none of whom have shown any signs that their campaign will stop operations before Super Tuesday on March 3. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is thought to be the favorite for Saturday's Nevada caucuses, and a win in Nevada would give the Vermont senator two outright wins and one virtual tie, in Iowa with former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg.

SNIP

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 21, 2020, 01:10:21 PM
Bloomberg Knoxville, TN campaign office tagged with "Oligarch",  "Classist", "Authoritarian" and "Fuck Bloomberg".  ;D


Bloomberg camp blames Bernie supporters, calls on Bernie to condemn attack that "echoes his language".



https://www.wvlt.tv/content/news/Mike-Bloombergs-Knoxville-campaign-office-vandalized-568075621.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 21, 2020, 01:32:04 PM
Bloomberg Knoxville, TN campaign office tagged with "Oligarch",  "Classist", "Authoritarian" and "Fuck Bloomberg".  ;D


Bloomberg camp blames Bernie supporters, calls on Bernie to condemn attack that "echoes his language".



https://www.wvlt.tv/content/news/Mike-Bloombergs-Knoxville-campaign-office-vandalized-568075621.html

It’s not gonna work for Bloomberg. He has no grassroots support and he has huge opposition from within the party.

Throwing money around is only going to get you so far.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on February 22, 2020, 01:25:25 PM

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Warren, Biden say Bloomberg’s NDA reversal ‘not good enough’
NY Post ^ | February 22, 2020 | 11:20am | Jon Levine
Posted on 2/22/2020, 2:36:19 PM by conservative98

Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren are unimpressed with Mike Bloomberg’s decision to release three women from their nondisclosure agreement, saying the former New York City mayor needs to do much more.

“Just not good enough,” the Massachusetts Senator told reporters Friday. “Michael Bloomberg needs to do a blanket release so that all women who have been muzzled by nondisclosure agreements can step up and tell their side of the story in terms of what Michael Bloomberg has done,”

The criticism was swiftly echoed by former VP Biden, a tag team which echoed their joint attack on Bloomberg during the Democratic debate earlier this week.

“Today’s release essentially tells the public nothing — we don’t know how many women signed these NDAs, what percentage of NDAs this represents, or what categories of signed NDAs exist that are excluded,” Biden’s campaign manager Kate Bedingfield said, The Hill reported.

Both candidates suggested they would only be satisfied with a blanket release of all NDAs that involve the billionaire.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 22, 2020, 01:31:10 PM
Pete Buttigieg’s Same-Sex Husband: ‘It’s Time for Moral Leadership to be Restored to the White House’
CNS News ^ | February 21, 2020 | CNSNews.com Staff
Posted on 2/22/2020, 2:29:32 PM by kevcol

“And I think: It is time for moral leadership to be restored to the White House,” he said. “So when you are ready to share that deepest truth about yourself, when you are ready to step out of the closet you step out into something hopeful and inclusive, and you look up to Washington and you see a president who cares about you and loves you.”

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Lol.   Primequeen and straw and Andreisafag must be salivating.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 22, 2020, 03:08:27 PM
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Bernie Sanders projected to win Nevada caucuses
Fox News ^ | Last Update 11 mins ago | Adam Shaw, Paul Steinhauser
Posted on 2/22/2020, 5:53:20 PM

Sen. Bernie Sanders will win the Nevada caucuses, Fox News can project, furthering the democratic socialist's lead over his Democratic rivals and raising the question as to whether he can be stopped on his path to the Democratic nomination.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 22, 2020, 03:22:25 PM
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MSNBC's Chris Matthews speculates Democrats may be better off with Trump as president than Sanders
Washington Examiner ^ | February 22, 2020 05:34 PM | Mike Brest
Posted on 2/22/2020, 6:16:49 PM by E. Pluribus Unum

MSNBC host Chris Matthews wondered if the Democratic Party would be better off if President Trump wins reelection rather than if Sen. Bernie Sanders takes over the White House.

Matthews, 74, brought up the possibility that centrist Democrats may prefer Trump over the socialist Sanders during the network's Saturday afternoon coverage of the Nevada caucuses. The host of Hardball with Chris Matthews was leading a conversation about how centrist candidates were splitting the vote, likely a detriment to one another but a benefit for Sanders.

"I’m wondering whether the Democratic moderates want Bernie Sanders to be president," he said. "That’s maybe too exciting a question to raise. They don’t like Trump at all. Do they want Bernie Sanders to take over the Democratic Party in perpetuity? I mean, he takes it over, he sets the direction of the future of the party — maybe they’d rather wait four years and put in a Democrat that they like."

"I mean, that’s the big question, right?" Adrienne Elrod, a former senior adviser to Hillary Clinton, responded. "And you know, the narrative that you’re starting to see play out, Chris, is that there are people that are concerned, strategists that are concerned that Bernie Sanders being at the top of the ticket will force us to lose the House. I don’t necessarily think that’s the case."

Matthews has frequently disparaged the Vermont senator in recent days, accusing Sanders of being "full of it" and arguing that he'd be a "miserable president" if he got elected. He has also predicted that Sanders would lose 49 states if he went up against Trump in the general election.

The network host also warned his viewers about candidates who support socialism.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 22, 2020, 04:41:04 PM
Pete Buttigieg’s Same-Sex Husband: ‘It’s Time for Moral Leadership to be Restored to the White House’
CNS News ^ | February 21, 2020 | CNSNews.com Staff
Posted on 2/22/2020, 2:29:32 PM by kevcol

“And I think: It is time for moral leadership to be restored to the White House,” he said. “So when you are ready to share that deepest truth about yourself, when you are ready to step out of the closet you step out into something hopeful and inclusive, and you look up to Washington and you see a president who cares about you and loves you.”

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Lol.   Primequeen and straw and Andreisafag must be salivating.

Can't speak for the other two folks but I'm fine with this. Not salivating however, if you are implying I'm turned on.

We have a former almost nude model in the White House right now and she's probably the best person there. My guess is that Melania is the main person keeping the nut jobs including her husband from 'jumping the shark'.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on February 22, 2020, 05:43:58 PM
Looks like old man Bernie is kicking all those dummycrats asses. How is the establishment going to fuck him over this time?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 22, 2020, 07:29:50 PM
Looks like old man Bernie is kicking all those dummycrats asses. How is the establishment going to fuck him over this time?

Could you imagine if Bernie wins 90+ percent of these races and they STILL end up screwing him and giving it to 'Stop and Frisk' Mini-Mike Bloomberg in Milwaukee  ???

And the sad thing is, I wouldn't put it past them to do such a thing!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on February 22, 2020, 07:42:02 PM
Could you imagine if Bernie wins 90+ percent of these races and they STILL end up screwing him and giving it to 'Stop and Frisk' Mini-Mike Bloomberg in Milwaukee  ???

And the sad thing is, I wouldn't put it past them to do such a thing!

I can imagine it.  There'd be blood in the street of Milwaukee this summer.  It would make Chicago of '68
look like the women's suffrage movement.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 22, 2020, 11:01:10 PM
Dem party either goes socialist or splits in two when they fix the convention against Bernie.

Bloomberg already stated others need to drop out so they have a chance to avoid the Bernie red wave on Super Tuesday.

Welcome to the revolution bitchez...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Board_SHERIF on February 23, 2020, 07:46:09 AM
Looks like old man Bernie is kicking all those dummycrats asses. How is the establishment going to fuck him over this time?

Yes but he deserves it - that why it is so funny  ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 23, 2020, 08:46:03 AM
Anybody else notice how red Bernie’s face was when he was speaking in Texas? I won’t be surprised if he has some more health issues before the election.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 23, 2020, 10:05:22 AM
Anybody else notice how red Bernie’s face was when he was speaking in Texas? I won’t be surprised if he has some more health issues before the election.

You mean because he is 78 years old and recently had a heart attack which resulted in two stints being implanted? Most people wouldn't or shouldn't be surprised if he has additional health issues over the next 9 months.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 23, 2020, 10:23:55 AM
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Bill de Blasio to Pete Buttigieg: ‘Try to Not Be So Smug When You Just Got Your Ass Kicked’
Breitbart ^ | 22 Feb 2020 | JOEL B. POLLAK
Posted on 2/23/2020, 12:42:08 PM by conservative98



.@PeteButtigieg, you clearly don’t understand the movement @BernieSanders has built. It reflects the true values + hope of working people in America. They simply want a country that puts working people first. Your critique tonight speaks for the American elite, not the majority— Bill de Blasio (@BilldeBlasio) February 23, 2020

And hey @PeteButtigieg, try to not be so smug when you just got your ass kicked. You know how we form a winning coalition to beat Trump? With a true multi-racial coalition of working Americans: something @BernieSanders has proven he can do + you haven’t. Dude, show some humility— Bill de Blasio (@BilldeBlasio) February 23, 2020


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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 23, 2020, 10:38:04 AM
You mean because he is 78 years old and recently had a heart attack which resulted in two stints being implanted? Most people wouldn't or shouldn't be surprised if he has additional health issues over the next 9 months.

Bloomberg is the same age but I didn’t notice the same condition. Look at Bernie’s grill. Does that look healthy?


Bernie Sanders claims victory in Nevada Democratic caucus

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/bernie-sanders-claims-victory-in-nevada-democratic-caucus-79243333585
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on February 23, 2020, 11:02:24 AM
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Bill de Blasio to Pete Buttigieg: ‘Try to Not Be So Smug When You Just Got Your Ass Kicked’
Breitbart ^ | 22 Feb 2020 | JOEL B. POLLAK
Posted on 2/23/2020, 12:42:08 PM by conservative98



.@PeteButtigieg, you clearly don’t understand the movement @BernieSanders has built. It reflects the true values + hope of working people in America. They simply want a country that puts working people first. Your critique tonight speaks for the American elite, not the majority— Bill de Blasio (@BilldeBlasio) February 23, 2020

And hey @PeteButtigieg, try to not be so smug when you just got your ass kicked. You know how we form a winning coalition to beat Trump? With a true multi-racial coalition of working Americans: something @BernieSanders has proven he can do + you haven’t. Dude, show some humility— Bill de Blasio (@BilldeBlasio) February 23, 2020


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Their only concern is "beating Trump", not the best interest of the American people.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 23, 2020, 11:14:47 AM
Bloomberg is the same age but I didn’t notice the same condition. Look at Bernie’s grill. Does that look healthy?


Bernie Sanders claims victory in Nevada Democratic caucus

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/bernie-sanders-claims-victory-in-nevada-democratic-caucus-79243333585

Being a lazy communist hack who never worked a real job before - got to be taxing for him to give a speech or two.   

At least Bloomberg earned his fortune.  Crazy/lazy Bernie is a lifelong welfare bum. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 23, 2020, 03:18:44 PM
Looks like CNN isn’t feelin’ the Bern. It’s actually good advice. Bloomberg doesn’t need to be worrying about Trump when Bernie is his immediate problem.


Bloomberg needs to take down Sanders -- immediately (opinion) - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/22/opinions/bloomberg-needs-to-take-down-sanders-lockhart/index.html

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 23, 2020, 07:01:35 PM
This absolute Democrat shitshow disaster makes me chuckle.

It’s like getting to watch a dog piss in the mouth of liberal idiots 24/7/365.

I hope the libidiots learn how to gargle.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on February 23, 2020, 07:29:36 PM
Their only concern is "beating Trump", not the best interest of the American people.

Exactly.  These scum are hell bent on the destruction of America and her genuinely loyal citizens.  FTN. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 23, 2020, 07:31:23 PM
The barbarians, er, Bernie Bros are knocking at the door, James.

Sanders will look like Ronald Reagan compared to the future candidates this mob will be putting up in the years to come.

AOC 2024??

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James Carville: "You're A Fool" If You Think Bernie Sanders Can Win By Expanding The Electorate

"ABC/Washington Post poll comes out, Buttigieg is plus 17 against Trump with college-educated women and Sanders is at 2. These are the kinds of facts that people have to be presented with. We have two-thirds of the Nevada caucus-goers want to win the election -- I don't know if us in the media are sufficiently telling people the risks you're running by doing this. I think voters need to be appraised of what what's going on here. "

Democratic political legend James Carville reacts to news that Sen. Bernie Sanders will win the Nevada presidential primary.

"The entire theory" put forward by Bernie Sanders "that by expanding the electorate, increasing turnout so you can win an election, is similar to climate denial," Carville said. "When people say that, they're as stupid to a political scientist as a climate denier is to an atmospheric scientist."

"If you want to vote for Bernie Sanders because you feel good about his program, you don't like the banks on Wall Street or you don't like pharmaceuticals, that's legitimate, I understand that. If you're voting for him because you think he'll win the election, politically, you're a fool."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/02/23/james_carville_on_sanders_youre_a_fool_if_you_think_he_can_win_by_expanding_the_electorate.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 23, 2020, 07:47:34 PM
Anybody else notice how red Bernie’s face was when he was speaking in Texas? I won’t be surprised if he has some more health issues before the election.

His supporters are slobbering all over themselves for him to name Nina Turner as his VP choice.

Could you imagine if he checks out a few weeks before the debates and she becomes the heir apparent to take his place?  :)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2020, 04:49:41 AM
Bernie Sanders defends Fidel Castro's socialist Cuba: 'Unfair to simply say everything is bad'
Fox News ^ | February 23, 2020 | Vandana Rambaran
Posted on 2/23/2020, 9:49:34 PM



Sen. Bernie Sanders, the frontrunner for the Democrats' presidential nomination, doubled down on his support for some of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro's policies, saying in an interview that aired Sunday, "it's unfair to simply say everything is bad."

Speaking to CBS News' "60 Minutes," Sanders, a self-proclaimed democratic socialist, pointed to social welfare programs introduced under Castro's regime that he described as redeeming, despite the communist dictator's often repressive human-rights violations against Cubans.

"We're very opposed to the authoritarian nature of Cuba but you know, it's unfair to simply say everything is bad. You know? When Fidel Castro came into office, you know what he did? He had a massive literacy program. Is that a bad thing? Even though Fidel Castro did it?" Sanders told Anderson Cooper.

Fidel Castro relinquished power to his brother, Raúl, in 2011; Fidel died in 2016.

Some Republicans jumped on Sanders' comments. "It really makes a difference when those you murder at the firing squad can read & write," Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, tweeted.

In a resurfaced speech given at the University of Vermont in 1986, Sanders praised the socialist policies implemented in Cuba by the Castro regime and criticized bipartisan efforts in the U.S. to tamp down on Castro's spread of communism.

While Sanders said in the new interview he "condemns" any human rights violations Castro committed, he also took aim at President Trump for his unlikely friendships with some dictators or strongman leaders, including North Korea's Kim Jong Un and Russia's Vladimir Putin

"I do not think that Kim Jong Un is a good friend," Sanders said. "I don't trade love letters with a murdering dictator. Vladimir Putin, not a great friend of mine."

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 24, 2020, 07:58:53 AM
His supporters are slobbering all over themselves for him to name Nina Turner as his VP choice.

Could you imagine if he checks out a few weeks before the debates and she becomes the heir apparent to take his place?  :)

If she were old enough, it would be AOC😰
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2020, 11:24:56 AM
kip to comments.

Sanders sends Democratic establishment into panic mode: "In 30-plus years of politics, I’ve never seen this level of doom," said one prominent centrist Democrat.
Politico ^ | February 23, 2020 | Natasha Korecki and David Siders
Posted on 2/24/2020, 1:28:25 PM by C19fan

Moderate Democrats watched in horror as Bernie Sanders soared to a landslide victory in Nevada.

It wasn't the win that was surprising — it was the walloping Sanders gave his opponents, his ability to dominate among Latino voters, and the momentum he gained moving into South Carolina and Super Tuesday. The performance sent already worried Democrats into a full-blown panic.

“In 30-plus years of politics, I’ve never seen this level of doom. I’ve never had a day with so many people texting, emailing, calling me with so much doom and gloom,” said Matt Bennett of the center-left group Third Way after Sanders' win in Nevada.

Bennett said moderates firmly believe a Sanders primary win would seal Donald Trump’s reelection. “It’s this incredible sense that we’re hurtling to the abyss. I also think we could lose the House. And if we do, there would be absolutely no way to stop [Trump]. Today is the most depressed I’ve ever been in politics.”

A renewed sense of urgency washed over establishment Democrats, who fear it’s quickly becoming too late to stop Sanders.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 24, 2020, 11:36:55 AM
Not surprising. Latinos love free government Bennies. They might not speak English but they sure know every program available.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2020, 12:11:04 PM
Bernie Sanders' disastrous answer on '60 Minutes'
CNN ^ | February 24, 2020 | Chris Cillizza
Posted on 2/24/2020, 2:13:50 PM


Bernie Sanders, the clear front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, was asked over the weekend how much his various plans would cost if implemented. He didn't know

Here's the exchange between Sanders and Anderson Cooper on "60 Minutes":

Cooper: Do you know how all -- how much though? I mean, do you have a price tag for -- for all of this?

Sanders: We do. I mean, you know, and -- and-- the price tag is -- it will be substantially less than letting the current system go. I think it's about $30 trillion.

Cooper: That's just for "Medicare for All," you're talking about?

Sanders: That's just "Medicare for All," yes.

Cooper: Do you have -- a price tag for all of these things?

Sanders: No, I don't. We try to -- no, you mentioned making public colleges and universities tuition free and canceling all student debt, that's correct. That's what I want to do. We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation.

Cooper: But you say you don't know what the total price is, but you know how it's gonna be paid for. How do you know it's gonna be paid for if you don't know how much the price is?

Sanders: Well, I can't -- you know, I can't rattle off to you every nickel and every dime. But we have accounted for -- you -- you talked about "Medicare for All." We have options out there that will pay for it.

What? So, Sanders not only a) isn't sure how much all of his proposals would cost but also b) isn't able to say how he would pay for these programs. That strikes me as a potential weak spot if/when Sanders winds up as the Democratic nominee against President Donald Trump.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2020, 12:17:39 PM
https://news.yahoo.com/after-sanders-praise-for-castro-cuban-americans-like-him-even-less-195233809.html?ncid=facebook_yahoonewsf_akfmevaatca


Breadlines Bernie is a communist red diaper doper baby.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 24, 2020, 12:25:19 PM
Judge Judy Vows to ‘Fight’ the Bernie Sanders Revolution ‘to the Death’

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Judge Judy Sheindlin has put up her dukes and is prepared to “fight to the death” to stop those trying to “revolutionize” the country. She’s talking to you, Bernie Sanders… and your “bros,” too.

Sheindlin, who is the magistrate of the courtroom series “Judge Judy,” now in its 24th season, has gone all-in on endorsing former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg for the Democratic party’s candidate for president. And she has made it abundantly clear that she’s ready to stop Bernie Sanders’ revolution to change the political landscape of the country before it even gets started.

“I was born in Brooklyn, so I have Brooklyn street smarts,” Sheindlin told Fox 25 reporter Mckenna Eubank during a Bloomberg stop in Oklahoma City. “America doesn’t need a revolution. It’s the most perfect country in the world and those people that are trying to change it and revolutionize it, don’t have a chance, because I’ll fight them to the death.”

https://www.thewrap.com/judge-judy-fight-bernie-sanders-revolution-to-the-death-video/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 24, 2020, 12:38:36 PM
The reason Bernie gets such traction on the healthcare issue is that people on the right are dishonest or ignorant as to how we got to this point. The defining feature of our healthcare system is employer based health insurance. It is in no way shape or form a product of the free market. It needs to go.



https://www.griffinbenefits.com/employeebenefitsblog/history-of-employer-sponsored-healthcare

To combat inflation, the 1942 Stabilization Act was passed. Designed to limit employers' freedom to raise wages and thus to compete on the basis of pay for scarce workers, the actual result of the act was that employers began to offer health benefits as incentives instead.

Suddenly, employers were in the health insurance business. Because health benefits could be considered part of compensation but did not count as income, workers did not have to pay income tax or payroll taxes on those benefits. Thus, by 1943, employers had an increased incentive to make health insurance arrangements for their workers, and the modern era of employer-sponsored health insurance began, a pivotal point in the History of Healthcare in America.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on February 24, 2020, 02:16:00 PM
The reason Bernie gets such traction on the healthcare issue is that people on the right are dishonest or ignorant as to how we got to this point. The defining feature of our healthcare system is employer based health insurance. It is in no way shape or form a product of the free market. It needs to go.



https://www.griffinbenefits.com/employeebenefitsblog/history-of-employer-sponsored-healthcare

To combat inflation, the 1942 Stabilization Act was passed. Designed to limit employers' freedom to raise wages and thus to compete on the basis of pay for scarce workers, the actual result of the act was that employers began to offer health benefits as incentives instead.

Suddenly, employers were in the health insurance business. Because health benefits could be considered part of compensation but did not count as income, workers did not have to pay income tax or payroll taxes on those benefits. Thus, by 1943, employers had an increased incentive to make health insurance arrangements for their workers, and the modern era of employer-sponsored health insurance began, a pivotal point in the History of Healthcare in America.


Ironically, I think healthcare via work was a free market response to FDR’s wage controls.  Gov’t reaches
into the free market with one end in mind, but the market responds to controls and restrictions in unexpected ways.

Just imagine if in the 1940s employers offered to pay a portion of employees’ rent or mortgage.  The median
home price would be about a million $ today.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2020, 03:29:32 PM
mments.

Florida Dems in uproar after Sanders’ Cuba comments. “Donald Trump wins Florida if Bernie is our nominee,” said one state legislator.
Politico ^ | February 24, 2020 | Marc Caputo
Posted on 2/24/2020, 6:22:42 PM by karpov

MIAMI — Bernie Sanders says he’s the Democrat best-equipped to defeat Donald Trump in November.

But Florida Democrats insist he‘s the worst-equipped after Sanders’s refusal Sunday night to thoroughly condemn the Cuban Revolution. His comments on 60 Minutes sent shockwaves through the nation’s biggest battleground state, where Democratic members of Congress, state legislators and party leaders warned that his nomination — and Sanders’s self-described “Democratic socialism” — will cost them the biggest battleground state of them all.

“Donald Trump wins Florida if Bernie is our nominee,” said state Rep. Javier Fernandez, a Democratic candidate in a majority-Hispanic state Senate district.

“If Bernie Sanders is atop the ticket, it’s going to make it tougher for all of us to win in Florida,” said Fernandez, who has endorsed Sanders’s rival, Joe Biden. “No one really sees Sanders winning Florida and I don’t think his campaign does either.”

As a state with an influential cross-section of Latinos whose families fled leftist Latin American regimes and violence, Sanders embrace of far-left leaders and his past refusals to wholeheartedly condemn Latin American strongmen and the Soviet Union have long been seen as fatal flaws.

Sanders on Sunday did nothing to allay those concerns in a 60 Minutes interview where he was asked about his 1985 comments stating that the Cuban people didn’t “rise up in rebellion against Fidel Castro” because “he educated their kids, gave their kids health care, totally transformed society.”

There was no mention of the firing squads, political purges and mass arrests that accompanied the 1959 revolution.

"We're very opposed to the authoritarian nature of Cuba but you know, it's unfair to simply say everything is bad. You know?" Sanders said Sunday when asked about the remarks. "When Fidel Castro came into office, you know what he did?

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 24, 2020, 03:59:25 PM
To Bernie’s defense, some of the stuff Castro did, was good for the people. Much like some things Hitler did were good for his people.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 24, 2020, 04:32:28 PM
Ironically, I think healthcare via work was a free market response to FDR’s wage controls.  Gov’t reaches
into the free market with one end in mind, but the market responds to controls and restrictions in unexpected ways.

Just imagine if in the 1940s employers offered to pay a portion of employees’ rent or mortgage.  The median
home price would be about a million $ today.


It’s a great point. What it did was distort price incentives. Employees have no reason to shop for the cheapest healthcare options because their employer is paying for it. It’s kind a like when you go on a business trip with your employer picking up the tab.

This intervention was a big reason why Medicare was created as well. People retiring suddenly lost their employer based healthcare. The whole idea of your employer being in charge of your healthcare is absurd.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2020, 04:50:02 PM
To Bernie’s defense, some of the stuff Castro did, was good for the people. Much like some things Hitler did were good for his people.

People are fleeing and risking life and death on the high seas in old 50’s cadillacboats from bernies utopia. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2020, 04:54:13 PM
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Bloomberg called Warren 'scary' and vowed to 'defend the banks' in closed-door 2016 event
CNN ^ | 7:10 PM ET, Mon February 24, 2020 | Andrew Kaczynski and Em Steck
Posted on 2/24/2020, 7:38:40 PM by Zhang Fei

Former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg said at a private event in 2016 that his presidential campaign platform would have been to "defend the banks" and also labeled the progressive movement and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, now a rival for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination, as "scary."

When asked his views on the rise of the far right in Europe, Bloomberg warned about the rise of progressive politicians in the US, citing Warren.

"The left is arising. The progressive movement is just as scary," he says. "Elizabeth Warren on one side. And whoever you want to pick on the Republicans on the right side?"

Bloomberg, who was elected mayor as a Republican and as an independent, also criticized President Barack Obama, saying that his 2012 endorsement of Obama was "backhanded" and that he thought Republican Mitt Romney could have done a better job if he'd been elected.

In the remarks, Bloomberg also spoke of the need for America to solve the problem of income equality before society "blows up." "Well, to start, my first campaign platform would be to defend the banks, and you know how well that's gonna sell in this country," Bloomberg said in his remarks.

"But seriously," he went on, "somebody's gotta stand up and do what we need. A healthy banking system that's going to take risks because that's what creates the jobs for everybody. And nobody's willing to say that. The trouble is, these campaigns in this day and age, really are about slogans and not about issues anymore. And in this election you're going to see people are voting and they either love or hate, mostly hate both, but who you hate the least. That's what they're going to vote for. And they're not going to vote on issues."

Bloomberg added of the

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2020, 04:58:40 PM
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Bernie Sanders under scrutiny for backing Sandinistas in 1980s
New York Post ^ | February 24, 2020 | Carl Campanile
Posted on 2/24/2020, 7:20:31 PM by karpov

Bernie Sanders’ praise of Cuba and Fidel Castro on Sunday is just the tip of the iceberg.

The Democratic front-runner had a romance with the Marxist Sandinista government of Nicaragua in the 1980s and even honeymooned with wife Jane in the Soviet Union in 1988.

Hillary Clinton’s opposition research book on Sanders from 2016 — posted by WikiLeaks after the emails of her campaign chairman, John Podesta, were hacked — has a whole section on the then-Burlington, Vt., mayor’s trip to Nicaragua and chummy support of the Sandinistas in 1985.

“Sanders Was The Only Elected US Official To Attend Anniversary Of Sandinista Revolution In Managua,” one headline in the oppo book said.

“Sanders Supported The Socialist Sandinista Government In Nicaragua As It Fought A Proxy War Against The United States. …He used to be a ‘Sandernista,’” the Clinton campaign research book said, sourcing information from a May 28, 2015, MSNBC story.

Sanders even met with Nicaragua President Daniel Ortega.

In his own book “Outsider in the House,” Sanders called the trip to Nicaragua a “profoundly emotional experience” and praised Ortega.

Burlington and Puerto Cabezas, Nicaragua, became sister cities.

The Clinton oppo book also cited articles saying Sanders also tried to serve as an emissary to arrange a meeting between Ortega and then-President Ronald Reagan to resolve the conflict.

Sanders also criticized the Reagan administration’s efforts to overthrow the Sandinistas with the pro-US Contras, equating the policy to the Soviet Union’s invasion of Afghanistan. He also worried that the conflict could become a Vietnam-like quagmire.

Meanwhile, Sanders and his wife honeymooned in the then USSR’s Yaroslavl, which had a sister city relationship with Burlington when he was mayor.

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 24, 2020, 05:03:22 PM
It’s a great point. What it did was distort price incentives. Employees have no reason to shop for the cheapest healthcare options because their employer is paying for it. It’s kind a like when you go on a business trip with your employer picking up the tab.

This intervention was a big reason why Medicare was created as well. People retiring suddenly lost their employer based healthcare. The whole idea of your employer being in charge of your healthcare is absurd.

In 2017 employer-based insurance was the most common, covering 56.0 percent of the population for some or all of the calendar year. In 2017, 8.8 percent of people, or 28.5 million, did not have health insurance at any point during the year. Not all employers provide healthcare insurance and not all people take advantage of it when it is provided.

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2018/demo/p60-264.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2020, 05:11:48 PM
In 2017 employer-based insurance was the most common, covering 56.0 percent of the population for some or all of the calendar year. In 2017, 8.8 percent of people, or 28.5 million, did not have health insurance at any point during the year. Not all employers provide healthcare insurance and not all people take advantage of it when it is provided.

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2018/demo/p60-264.html

Democrats who don’t usher in Obamacare have no footing here.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 24, 2020, 05:31:58 PM
In 2017 employer-based insurance was the most common, covering 56.0 percent of the population for some or all of the calendar year. In 2017, 8.8 percent of people, or 28.5 million, did not have health insurance at any point during the year. Not all employers provide healthcare insurance and not all people take advantage of it when it is provided.

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2018/demo/p60-264.html


I am aware of this. My point is that it did not come from the free market but from a government intervention. So, for Bernie to point out high healthcare costs as a failure of capitalism is dishonest.

Sure, people who have employer based healthcare might like it but I can’t see why they would like the idea of losing that healthcare if they were separated from their job for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 24, 2020, 06:16:33 PM

I am aware of this. My point is that it did not come from the free market but from a government intervention. So, for Bernie to point out high healthcare costs as a failure of capitalism is dishonest.

Sure, people who have employer based healthcare might like it but I can’t see why they would like the idea of losing that healthcare if they were separated from their job for whatever reason.

I had excellent family healthcare coverage through my employer for 30 years. The bargained contractual premium co-pay was nominal although it gradually increased as the cost of coverage skyrocketed. Since my wife also had very good healthcare coverage through her employer, we were well covered even when she became very ill.

So, I agree with you, those of us folks lucky enough to have 'Cadillac' healthcare plans would be idiots to give it up. Unfortunately, unless people retire with a 'golden parachute' that includes paid ongoing coverage under their employer provided plans, they are shit out of luck. When your employment ends, so does your healthcare coverage. COBRA allows you to keep that great insurance coverage for a time, but you the expensive premiums to have it.

Explain to me how you believe government intervention negatively affects healthcare insurance.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on February 24, 2020, 07:43:42 PM
I had excellent family healthcare coverage through my employer for 30 years. The bargained contractual premium co-pay was nominal although it gradually increased as the cost of coverage skyrocketed. Since my wife also had very good healthcare coverage through her employer, we were well covered even when she became very ill.

So, I agree with you, those of us folks lucky enough to have 'Cadillac' healthcare plans would be idiots to give it up. Unfortunately, unless people retire with a 'golden parachute' that includes paid ongoing coverage under their employer provided plans, they are shit out of luck. When your employment ends, so does your healthcare coverage. COBRA allows you to keep that great insurance coverage for a time, but you the expensive premiums to have it.

Explain to me how you believe government intervention negatively affects healthcare insurance.



Really?   You know the answer so quit axing the quextion.   Oh wait!  You libs just adore being stoopid.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 24, 2020, 07:46:33 PM
I had excellent family healthcare coverage through my employer for 30 years. The bargained contractual premium co-pay was nominal although it gradually increased as the cost of coverage skyrocketed. Since my wife also had very good healthcare coverage through her employer, we were well covered even when she became very ill.

So, I agree with you, those of us folks lucky enough to have 'Cadillac' healthcare plans would be idiots to give it up. Unfortunately, unless people retire with a 'golden parachute' that includes paid ongoing coverage under their employer provided plans, they are shit out of luck. When your employment ends, so does your healthcare coverage. COBRA allows you to keep that great insurance coverage for a time, but you the expensive premiums to have it.

Explain to me how you believe government intervention negatively affects healthcare insurance.



I hope your fatal heart attack occurs in the bladder control aisle of your local supermarket.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 24, 2020, 11:30:55 PM
I had excellent family healthcare coverage through my employer for 30 years. The bargained contractual premium co-pay was nominal although it gradually increased as the cost of coverage skyrocketed. Since my wife also had very good healthcare coverage through her employer, we were well covered even when she became very ill.

So, I agree with you, those of us folks lucky enough to have 'Cadillac' healthcare plans would be idiots to give it up. Unfortunately, unless people retire with a 'golden parachute' that includes paid ongoing coverage under their employer provided plans, they are shit out of luck. When your employment ends, so does your healthcare coverage. COBRA allows you to keep that great insurance coverage for a time, but you the expensive premiums to have it.

Explain to me how you believe government intervention negatively affects healthcare insurance.





Nearly all pensions and insurance coverage like this are now bankrupt due to extended lifespans and ROIs based on perpetual growth.

Just check out CALPERS to see how mismanaged govt run systems like this work...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 25, 2020, 12:13:54 AM


Nearly all pensions and insurance coverage like this are now bankrupt due to extended lifespans and ROIs based on perpetual growth.

Just check out CALPERS to see how mismanaged govt run systems like this work...

Government systems like what? I sited examples of the benefits of quality employer provided healthcare insurance, based on personal experience, which includes both  public and private sector employee benefits. (CALPERS) was not a part of this conversation until you mentioned it.

Perhaps you'd like to share how you propose healthcare benefits be provided or not provided and if not provided, how people will receive medical attention when needed?

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World map of universal healthcare.
  Countries with free and universal health care
  Countries with universal healthcare
  Countries with free but not universal healthcare
  Countries without free or universal healthcare
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 25, 2020, 05:38:24 AM
Leaked audio of billionaire and 2020 Democratic contender Michael Bloomberg shows him calling the progressive left and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mas., "scary" while also suggesting that Sen. Mitt Romney, R-UT, would have been a better president than former President Barack Obama.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/audio-bloomberg-slammed-warren-scary-023635538.html

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 25, 2020, 05:49:11 AM
He is right. 

Leaked audio of billionaire and 2020 Democratic contender Michael Bloomberg shows him calling the progressive left and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mas., "scary" while also suggesting that Sen. Mitt Romney, R-UT, would have been a better president than former President Barack Obama.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/audio-bloomberg-slammed-warren-scary-023635538.html

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 25, 2020, 05:55:38 AM
He is right. 


He's right about a lot of stuff.  Isn't he a former Republican, now buying his nomination as a Democrat?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 25, 2020, 06:28:33 AM
He's right about a lot of stuff.  Isn't he a former Republican, now buying his nomination as a Democrat?

He is economically conservative but socially liberal. He should be a republican.

Social issues don’t mean jack shit if you don’t have anything to eat.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 25, 2020, 07:00:49 AM
He is economically conservative but socially liberal. He should be a republican.

Social issues don’t mean jack shit if you don’t have anything to eat.

Are you sure about that?  What about the things he said about minorities and crime?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 25, 2020, 08:03:14 AM
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Bernie Sanders under scrutiny for backing Sandinistas in 1980s
New York Post ^ | February 24, 2020 | Carl Campanile
Posted on 2/24/2020, 7:20:31 PM by karpov

Bernie Sanders’ praise of Cuba and Fidel Castro on Sunday is just the tip of the iceberg.

The Democratic front-runner had a romance with the Marxist Sandinista government of Nicaragua in the 1980s and even honeymooned with wife Jane in the Soviet Union in 1988.

Hillary Clinton’s opposition research book on Sanders from 2016 — posted by WikiLeaks after the emails of her campaign chairman, John Podesta, were hacked — has a whole section on the then-Burlington, Vt., mayor’s trip to Nicaragua and chummy support of the Sandinistas in 1985.

“Sanders Was The Only Elected US Official To Attend Anniversary Of Sandinista Revolution In Managua,” one headline in the oppo book said.

“Sanders Supported The Socialist Sandinista Government In Nicaragua As It Fought A Proxy War Against The United States. …He used to be a ‘Sandernista,’” the Clinton campaign research book said, sourcing information from a May 28, 2015, MSNBC story.

Sanders even met with Nicaragua President Daniel Ortega.

In his own book “Outsider in the House,” Sanders called the trip to Nicaragua a “profoundly emotional experience” and praised Ortega.

Burlington and Puerto Cabezas, Nicaragua, became sister cities.

The Clinton oppo book also cited articles saying Sanders also tried to serve as an emissary to arrange a meeting between Ortega and then-President Ronald Reagan to resolve the conflict.

Sanders also criticized the Reagan administration’s efforts to overthrow the Sandinistas with the pro-US Contras, equating the policy to the Soviet Union’s invasion of Afghanistan. He also worried that the conflict could become a Vietnam-like quagmire.

Meanwhile, Sanders and his wife honeymooned in the then USSR’s Yaroslavl, which had a sister city relationship with Burlington when he was mayor.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...

How much money is Trump and the RNC sitting on, cashwise in their coffers?

I PRAY that Bernie becomes the nominee.

All that shady stuff in his past will be put on Front Street in large neon signage.

Just blast that footage nonstop in those swing states.

The average voter age is 54 years old in this country. Really take that into account while you are pushing this new radical agenda, Bernie Bros.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on February 25, 2020, 08:14:23 AM
Democrats will not improve the country with the crop they have.

They need to regroup and rebuild.

Not around progressives either.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 25, 2020, 08:23:13 AM
Democrats will not improve the country with the crop they have.

They need to regroup and rebuild.

Not around progressives either.

People rag on James Carville but I cannot disagree with anything the man has said.

The Democrats DID put together a solid, winning campaign during the 2018 midterms.

A solid moderate message and weak Republican turnout led them to take back the House.

I still believe the Senate is the ultimate prize because of the effects on the courts.

But it just seems that left progressive cancer has just grown too much. And they are too obnoxious and egotistical to organize the flanks and come together strong.

That "Bernie or 'Burn the sumbitch down' mentality is just so toxic overall for the Democratic party.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 25, 2020, 08:38:00 AM
Government systems like what? I sited examples of the benefits of quality employer provided healthcare insurance, based on personal experience, which includes both  public and private sector employee benefits. (CALPERS) was not a part of this conversation until you mentioned it.

Perhaps you'd like to share how you propose healthcare benefits be provided or not provided and if not provided, how people will receive medical attention when needed?

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World map of universal healthcare.
  Countries with free and universal health care
  Countries with universal healthcare
  Countries with free but not universal healthcare
  Countries without free or universal healthcare
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I'm self employed. I pay $500 a month for health insurance. I work, I pay, I go to doctor only when needed. I pay a lot of income tax in addition to this.

My proposal is people take responsibility for themselves - and those that don't stay a minority of the population that there is a decently run safety net for...oh wait we have that system now. Nobody is turned away at the hospital right now. There are certain out of control demographics that are working to destroy that system however to which I say build that wall.

Instead we have vote buying Bernie and others promising pie in the sky programs that have NO FUNDING AKA NO BASIS IN REALITY.

Free stuff is crap. Worse service and worse outcomes than paid-for equivalents. What is so hard to understand about that? It's like saying everybody should ride buses because the roads all go to the same places.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 25, 2020, 10:32:34 AM
Is fear of a Sanders presidency bern-ing markets?

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What’s pummeling financial markets this week?

Fears about the spread of coronavirus, to be sure. But a chorus of analysts also thinks concerns about Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders winning the Democratic presidential nomination — and possibly even the presidency — are also contributing to jitters.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-fear-of-a-sanders-presidency-bern-ing-markets-2020-02-25
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 25, 2020, 11:13:27 AM
CNN's Camerota Shocked to Learn of Bernie's Bizarre Nude-Kid-Touching Suggestion
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein
Posted on 2/25/2020, 12:45:39 PM by governsleastgovernsbest

On CNN this morning, Alisyn Camerota proved in real-time a Bloomberg aide's allegation that the media has failed to properly vet Bernie Sanders.

On New Day, senior Bloomberg adviser Tim O'Brien said that Sanders had advocated that "toddlers should run around naked and touch each other's genitals to insulate themselves from porn."

"What?? What??!!," a shocked, astonished, and utterly gobsmacked Camerota exclaimed.

Get the rest of the story and view the video here.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on February 25, 2020, 11:20:46 AM
People rag on James Carville but I cannot disagree with anything the man has said.

The Democrats DID put together a solid, winning campaign during the 2018 midterms.

A solid moderate message and weak Republican turnout led them to take back the House.

I still believe the Senate is the ultimate prize because of the effects on the courts.

But it just seems that left progressive cancer has just grown too much. And they are too obnoxious and egotistical to organize the flanks and come together strong.

That "Bernie or 'Burn the sumbitch down' mentality is just so toxic overall for the Democratic party.

Carville was spot on.

Only ones ragging on him were Democrats because he dared criticize them.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 25, 2020, 11:33:43 AM
CNN's Camerota Shocked to Learn of Bernie's Bizarre Nude-Kid-Touching Suggestion
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein
Posted on 2/25/2020, 12:45:39 PM by governsleastgovernsbest

On CNN this morning, Alisyn Camerota proved in real-time a Bloomberg aide's allegation that the media has failed to properly vet Bernie Sanders.

On New Day, senior Bloomberg adviser Tim O'Brien said that Sanders had advocated that "toddlers should run around naked and touch each other's genitals to insulate themselves from porn."

"What?? What??!!," a shocked, astonished, and utterly gobsmacked Camerota exclaimed.

Get the rest of the story and view the video here.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...

WTF?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 25, 2020, 11:39:05 AM
Is fear of a Sanders presidency bern-ing markets?

(https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/EQEc1tXsGF2_NUnN8TAp9w--~B/aD0yNzM0O3c9MzY0NTtzbT0xO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/https://media.zenfs.com/en-US/investopedia.com/dbcf3568c9a015df16b3a7c0c292d375)

What’s pummeling financial markets this week?

Fears about the spread of coronavirus, to be sure. But a chorus of analysts also thinks concerns about Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders winning the Democratic presidential nomination — and possibly even the presidency — are also contributing to jitters.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-fear-of-a-sanders-presidency-bern-ing-markets-2020-02-25

Before the slide, the market was over 10% above the 200 day moving average. That’s usually a pretty solid indicator that the market is overbought. Under those conditions it doesn’t take much to trigger a correction.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on February 25, 2020, 12:00:42 PM
CNN's Camerota Shocked to Learn of Bernie's Bizarre Nude-Kid-Touching Suggestion
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein
Posted on 2/25/2020, 12:45:39 PM by governsleastgovernsbest

On CNN this morning, Alisyn Camerota proved in real-time a Bloomberg aide's allegation that the media has failed to properly vet Bernie Sanders.

On New Day, senior Bloomberg adviser Tim O'Brien said that Sanders had advocated that "toddlers should run around naked and touch each other's genitals to insulate themselves from porn."

"What?? What??!!," a shocked, astonished, and utterly gobsmacked Camerota exclaimed.

Get the rest of the story and view the video here.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...

Honestly, you come up with the weirdest shit.

Apparently here's what Sanders wrote in an essay many decades ago.

"Now, if children go around naked, they are liable to see each others sexual organs, and maybe even touch them. Terrible thing! If we [raise] children up like this it will probably ruin the whole pornography business, not to mention the large segment of the general economy which makes its money by playing on people’s sexual frustrations."
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 25, 2020, 12:26:29 PM
Honestly, you come up with the weirdest shit.

Apparently here's what Sanders wrote in an essay many decades ago.

"Now, if children go around naked, they are liable to see each others sexual organs, and maybe even touch them. Terrible thing! If we [raise] children up like this it will probably ruin the whole pornography business, not to mention the large segment of the general economy which makes its money by playing on people’s sexual frustrations."


Ugh huh.   This is Bernie

Own it lefty

https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/05/29/410606045/the-bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy-essay-explained





Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on February 25, 2020, 12:54:15 PM

Ugh huh.   This is Bernie

Own it lefty

https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/05/29/410606045/the-bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy-essay-explained







Not just deranged socialist but a creepy pervert as well.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 25, 2020, 12:57:57 PM
Honestly, you come up with the weirdest shit.

Apparently here's what Sanders wrote in an essay many decades ago.

"Now, if children go around naked, they are liable to see each others sexual organs, and maybe even touch them. Terrible thing! If we [raise] children up like this it will probably ruin the whole pornography business, not to mention the large segment of the general economy which makes its money by playing on people’s sexual frustrations."

Own it.  Even Snopes had to admit this was fact. 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bernie-sanders-essay

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 25, 2020, 01:43:33 PM
https://pjmedia.com/trending/stunner-watch-side-by-side-video-of-re-pete-buttigieg-and-obama-giving-the-same-speech/?fbclid=IwAR0rdG1eWjEjmpUSpfJ9z7jj1ksA-F2oK57RX9K-VhBMrPJ2EmMgJQY9jSg


Go figure

These two will make a great couple soon. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 25, 2020, 06:50:28 PM
Not just deranged socialist but a creepy pervert as well.

You described Primemuscle to a tee.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on February 26, 2020, 04:31:20 AM
How can any supporter of the left feel good about their candidate after last night?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 26, 2020, 07:36:36 AM
https://pjmedia.com/trending/stunner-watch-side-by-side-video-of-re-pete-buttigieg-and-obama-giving-the-same-speech/?fbclid=IwAR0rdG1eWjEjmpUSpfJ9z7jj1ksA-F2oK57RX9K-VhBMrPJ2EmMgJQY9jSg


Go figure

These two will make a great couple soon. 

Haha  :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 26, 2020, 07:48:21 AM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 26, 2020, 08:04:57 AM
Styxhexenhammer really summed it up well this morning while discussing Bernie and his support of Fidel Castro.

We already know that Trump will dominate that northern and panhandle part of Florida and now Bernie has basically spit in the face of all the Cuban population in the southern part as well.

Okay so let's take Florida off the board, Trump wins what should be a swing state easily now.

Fracking.

Trump for.

Bernie wants to ban it outright.

Bye bye Pennsylvania.

So Bernie is down Florida and Pennsylvania from the get go and that's not even taking into account the Rust Belt where Bernie wants to take away these union worker's private insurance and replace with a government program.

Ohio is safe red already before that discussion even begins.

Wisconsin is trending red and you have a charismatic senate candidate with a legit shot to flip the seat in Michigan.

Where is Bernie's path to victory?

I just am not seeing it.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 26, 2020, 10:16:34 AM
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 26, 2020, 10:21:11 AM


WTF?  LOL
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 26, 2020, 11:26:52 AM
Over 200 Native Americans Ask Elizabeth Warren to ‘Make Clear Public Statement’ Disavowing Past Claims of Heritage

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More than 200 Cherokees and other Native Americans sent a letter to Senator Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.) urging her to issue a public apology after “vague and inadequate” past steps to apologize for her claims of Cherokee ancestry.

“Your history of false claims to American Indian identity and the defense of these claims with a highly publicized DNA test continue to dog your political career,” the letter reads. “For Native Americans, this moment is more than an annoyance; it represents the most public debate about our identity in a generation.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/over-200-native-americans-ask-145107841.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 26, 2020, 11:45:23 AM
Fact Check: Elizabeth Warren Falsely Claims She Was Fired from Her First Teaching Job for Being Pregnant
Breitbart.com ^ | 2/25/2020 | Michael Patrick Leahy
Posted on 2/26/2020, 2:07:15 PM by rktman

CLAIM: Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) claimed at the Democrat debate in Charleston, South Carolina, broadcast on CBS Tuesday night that she was fired from her first teaching job for being pregnant. Specifically, Warren said that after she was visibly pregnant, her principal “wished me luck and gave my job to someone else. Pregnancy discrimination? You bet.”

VERDICT: False. Warren has been making this claim on the campaign trail since June 2019, but all the documentary evidence surrounding her departure from her first job as a public school teacher in New Jersey during the 1970-1971 academic year indicates it was voluntary. In a 2007 interview, she also described her departure from that job as voluntary.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 26, 2020, 11:56:59 AM
Michael Bloomberg accused of paying people to cheer for him at election debate

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/michael-bloomberg-accused-paying-people-144750272.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on February 26, 2020, 01:07:18 PM
 :o

Cardiologist: Bernie Sanders Hiding a Key Metric of His Heart Health
JOSHUA CAPLAN  25 Feb 2020

Democrat presidential primary frontrunner Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) is withholding a key indicator regarding his heart health after suffering a heart attack on the campaign trail, a leading cardiologist said Monday.

Dr. Richard Kovacs, president of the American College of Cardiology, said Sanders has not released metrics on the left ventricular ejection fraction, which measures the blood volume that the heart pushes out with each heartbeat. This indicator tracks the likelihood of future heart events and patients’ mortality rate.

“Normally the heart will push out 60 percent,” he told NBC News. “If you go down to 40 or 50 percent, we regard that as mild impairment of the left ventricle. Thirty to 40 percent would be moderate. If you get to 30 percent, that would be severe.”

Despite Kovacs’ comments, Sanders has refused to provide additional information about his health after releasing what the senator claimed was a “comprehensive” medical records report.

“I think we have released a detailed medical report, and I’m comfortable on what we have done,” the 78-year-old said during a CNN town hall event last Tuesday evening.

Questions about Sanders’ health have lingered ever since he checked into a Las Vegas hospital with chest discomfort on Oct. 1 and had two stents inserted.

His campaign did not acknowledge that he had suffered a heart attack until his release several days later. After pledging to divulge a detailed accounting of his well-being, the campaign waited until New Year’s Eve to put out letters from three doctors attesting to his health — a move traditionally deployed to avoid scrutiny.

Fellow 2020 Democrat candidate and former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg had two stents inserted into his heart in 2000, though he did not have a cardiac episode.

“He’s released as much or more than any other candidate on that stage, released a letter from the attending physician of the U.S. Capitol, who has been his doctor for 29 years. You know, this is not one of those Trump-rent-a-doctors — this is the attending physician at the U.S. Capitol — and two leading cardiologists who have had him under their care. All of them say he is fully able to handle the rigors of the presidency,” Jeff Weaver, a top adviser to Sanders, said.

“I think any of you who follow him on the campaign trail know that he can handle the rigors of that probably better than many of us standing here,” Weaver added.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/25/cardiologist-bernie-sanders-hiding-a-key-metric-of-his-heart-health/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 26, 2020, 01:27:34 PM
CBS Poll: Viewers Feel ‘Nervous’ After Watching Dem Debate
Newsbusters ^ | 2/26/2020 | Kyle Drennen
Posted on 2/26/2020, 4:25:58

At the opening of Wednesday’s CBS This Morning, co-host Anthony Mason touted a new poll conducted by the network immediately following Tuesday night’s chaotic Democratic Debate. The survey of “Democratic debate watchers” found that 47% felt “nervous” about the field of 2020 candidates after watching the free-for-all.

“I was worried about you up there,” Mason remarked to fellow co-host Gayle King, who served as one of the debate moderators. “The gunfire was going in both directions and everybody had to duck,” he added. King agreed: “I know, Anthony, there was so much incoming, a couple of times I’m like, ‘Okay, alright, everyone. Senator, Senator, Senator.’”

(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 26, 2020, 01:35:09 PM
I love how Trump keeps holding his rallies in the same state, at the same time of the Democratic primaries. Straight Outta Vince McMahon’s playbook.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on February 26, 2020, 07:12:57 PM
Bernie is alpha as fuck and it scares my friends on the right something fierce.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 27, 2020, 04:06:10 AM
Michael Bloomberg accused of paying people to cheer for him at election debate

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/michael-bloomberg-accused-paying-people-144750272.html

He probably pays some broad to wash his dick everyday like Eddie Murphy in “Coming to America.”
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 27, 2020, 04:07:35 AM
He probably pays some broad to wash his dick everyday like Eddie Murphy in “Coming to America.”

LOL
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 27, 2020, 04:15:09 AM
Newly revealed letter highlights Sanders' complicated history on gun control

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https://www.yahoo.com/gma/newly-revealed-letter-highlights-sanders-complicated-history-gun-211500589.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 27, 2020, 05:15:20 AM

Poll: Biden retakes lead in Florida (Biden 35%, Bloomberg 25%, Sanders 13%)
The Hill ^ | February 27, 2020 | Max Greenwood



Former Vice President Joe Biden is reclaiming his frontrunner status in Florida, according to a survey released on Thursday by St. Pete Polls.

The poll shows Biden pulling ahead of the pack in the Sunshine State with 35 percent support. Meanwhile, former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg fell into second place with 25 percent support.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who has taken the lead in polls nationally after back-to-back wins in the New Hampshire primary and Nevada caucuses, is running in a distant third in Florida. The St. Pete Poll pegged his support in the state at 13 percent, a sign that the recent traction he has enjoyed in other states isn’t translating in Florida, where voters will cast ballots on March 17.

No other candidate registered double-digit support in the survey. Former South Bend, Ind. Mayor Pete Buttigieg finished with about 8 percent support, while Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) registered 5 percent and 4 percent, respectively.

The St. Pete poll, conducted from Feb. 25-26, suggests that Bloomberg’s political stock has taken a hit in the wake of the Democratic presidential debate in Las Vegas last week, when he came under frequent attack from his rivals and struggled to fend off criticism of his mayoral record, treatment of women and controversial past comments.

A St. Pete Poll released just before the Las Vegas debate showed the former New York City mayor in first place in Florida, with 32 percent support. Within a matter of days, that support slipped 7 points, the new poll shows.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: tatoo on February 27, 2020, 05:25:08 AM
Bernie is alpha as fuck and it scares my friends on the right something fierce.

you're dumb as fuck too.. socialism should scare every American.. cant wait to watch commie Bernie get smashed by your president in the debates... thats if he doesn't let the dnc fuck him and all his supporters in the asshole like in 2016... alfa as fuck huh?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 27, 2020, 12:02:13 PM
Newly revealed letter highlights Sanders' complicated history on gun control

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https://www.yahoo.com/gma/newly-revealed-letter-highlights-sanders-complicated-history-gun-211500589.html

Hunting is very big in northern Vermont and New York. They have a very strong gun lobby, almost no gun laws there, yet very little gun violence. Go figure.🤔
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on February 27, 2020, 01:40:13 PM
Hunting White Population is very big in northern Vermont and New York. They have a very strong White Population, almost no gun laws Black People there, yet very little gun violence. Go figure.🤔


Just sayin'
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on February 27, 2020, 03:39:58 PM
I'm seeing rumors that Sanders might pick Rashida Tlaib or Stacey Abrams as VP.   ::)
Definitely a non-pallorous female.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on February 27, 2020, 03:44:39 PM
you're dumb as fuck too.. socialism should scare every American.. cant wait to watch commie Bernie get smashed by your president in the debates... thats if he doesn't let the dnc fuck him and all his supporters in the asshole like in 2016... alfa as fuck huh?

Tell me more.....
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 27, 2020, 04:54:08 PM

Just sayin'


Would be interesting to hear what Bernie would say if he were asked why is it that his state has such lax gun control laws and such little gun violence.

He would have to reach deep into his bag of bullshit.💩💩
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on February 28, 2020, 03:13:02 AM
Democrats seem far more afraid of Bernie than Republicans were afraid of Trump.

Democratic Leaders Willing to Risk Party Damage to Stop Bernie Sanders
Dozens of interviews with Democratic establishment leaders this week show that they are not just worried about Sanders’ candidacy, but are also willing to risk intraparty damage to stop his nomination at the national convention in July if they get the chance.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/democratic-leaders-willing-risk-party-200946646.html

Bloomberg suggests he wouldn’t send money to Sanders campaign if he is the nominee
Billionaire Mike Bloomberg said Thursday that he might not spend money to assist Bernie Sanders if Sanders is the Democratic presidential nominee, a walk back of previous comments that he would use his fortune to boost whoever faces President Donald Trump in November.
https://finance.yahoo.com/m/d65e75a8-a946-3007-b735-eeab4731e298/bloomberg-suggests-he.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 28, 2020, 08:17:03 AM
I have to laugh at how the media reports on Democrats getting caught in their ridiculous lies.

The corrupt and incompetent Obama Administration coined the media term “walked back their statement” with all the lies they told and the media had to cover up.

Joe Biden got arrested going to visit Nelson Mandela... more Democrat Party bullshit.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 28, 2020, 10:09:55 AM
Democrats seem far more afraid of Bernie than Republicans were afraid of Trump.

Democratic Leaders Willing to Risk Party Damage to Stop Bernie Sanders
Dozens of interviews with Democratic establishment leaders this week show that they are not just worried about Sanders’ candidacy, but are also willing to risk intraparty damage to stop his nomination at the national convention in July if they get the chance.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/democratic-leaders-willing-risk-party-200946646.html

Bloomberg suggests he wouldn’t send money to Sanders campaign if he is the nominee
Billionaire Mike Bloomberg said Thursday that he might not spend money to assist Bernie Sanders if Sanders is the Democratic presidential nominee, a walk back of previous comments that he would use his fortune to boost whoever faces President Donald Trump in November.
https://finance.yahoo.com/m/d65e75a8-a946-3007-b735-eeab4731e298/bloomberg-suggests-he.html

America got a good look at the Left via Obama and the Dems got creamed in 2010. Bernie is Obama on IFBB pro level gear.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on February 28, 2020, 10:49:59 AM
""If I don't get the nomination I'll be more than happy to fill the number two slot." -- Pete Buttigieg"
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on February 29, 2020, 04:44:05 AM
""If I don't get the nomination I'll be more than happy to fill the number two slot." -- Pete Buttigieg"

Ha ha ha - Yeah I bet he’d love that Chance.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 29, 2020, 10:00:11 AM
Pocohontas Warren changes her campaign direction more than a windsock.

That disgusting libidiot is unable to tell the truth.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 29, 2020, 12:38:22 PM
Last stand for Biden. He wins by double digits in SC or might as well quit this dog and pony soldier show.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 29, 2020, 06:52:40 PM
AOC warns a Bloomberg win would lead to a worse president than Trump


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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez warned that electing Mike Bloomberg in November would pave the way for another candidate who could be “even worse” than President Trump.

The freshman lawmaker said she thinks it’s “not a good idea” to put the former three-term New York mayor in the White House even if he is the candidate who could beat Trump.

“We obviously have to beat Trump,” she told “The Breakfast Club” show on Power 105.1 AM on Tuesday. “But if we beat Trump and go back to the same policies that we had before, a worse Trump is going to come. A Trump that’s more sophisticated, whose fascism is less obvious, is going to come and things could get even worse.”

Ocasio-Cortez, who has spoken at Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign rallies, noted how Bloomberg’s controversial policies like stop-and-frisk and his comments about how ending the discriminatory practice of redlining contributed to the 2008 financial meltdown are coming attractions of a Bloomberg presidency.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/27/aoc-warns-a-bloomberg-win-would-lead-to-a-worse-president-than-trump/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 29, 2020, 07:18:43 PM
Really wish for some nudes.  Her idiocy is really off putting.


AOC warns a Bloomberg win would lead to a worse president than Trump


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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez warned that electing Mike Bloomberg in November would pave the way for another candidate who could be “even worse” than President Trump.

The freshman lawmaker said she thinks it’s “not a good idea” to put the former three-term New York mayor in the White House even if he is the candidate who could beat Trump.

“We obviously have to beat Trump,” she told “The Breakfast Club” show on Power 105.1 AM on Tuesday. “But if we beat Trump and go back to the same policies that we had before, a worse Trump is going to come. A Trump that’s more sophisticated, whose fascism is less obvious, is going to come and things could get even worse.”

Ocasio-Cortez, who has spoken at Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign rallies, noted how Bloomberg’s controversial policies like stop-and-frisk and his comments about how ending the discriminatory practice of redlining contributed to the 2008 financial meltdown are coming attractions of a Bloomberg presidency.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/27/aoc-warns-a-bloomberg-win-would-lead-to-a-worse-president-than-trump/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on February 29, 2020, 07:20:16 PM
Biden wins the Deep South and Bernie wins everything else??

How much momentum does this give Joe going into Super Tuesday?

'You brought me back': Joe Biden rallies supporters after convincing South Carolina primary win


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Former Vice President Joe Biden was declared the winner immediately after polls closed in the Palmetto State. Cable and television networks called the race based on exit poll data, nearly all of which pointed to Biden.

Biden’s victory gives his campaign a huge boost after disappointing showings in presidential contests in Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada. Biden placed fourth Iowa, fifth in New Hampshire and second in Nevada.

South Carolina handed him his first victory in the presidential contest – and in any of his previous presidential runs – giving him a much-needed boost heading into the important Super Tuesday elections on March 3.

Biden’s victory ends the winning streak of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who prevailed in the first three contests. Biden had predicted he would win South Carolina, brushing aside questions about whether he would drop out of the race if he did not.

“I will win South Carolina,” he promised during a Democratic debate Tuesday night. “And I will win with African American vote.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/02/29/south-carolina-primary-joe-biden-looks-chip-away-bernie-sanders-delegate-lead/4889526002/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 01, 2020, 03:38:33 PM
It appears they are banking on Sleepy Joe.

Clear out all the other moderates who might take away from that Biden vote and try to prevent a Bernie nomination.

Perhaps Bloomberg has invested too much money and is in it unt the very end?


Pete Buttigieg dropping out of presidential race


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SOUTH BEND — Democrat Pete Buttigieg is ending his campaign for president.

Three people with knowledge of Buttigieg’s decision tell The Associated Press he is informing campaign staff. They were not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity.

His campaign says Buttigieg will speak Sunday night in South Bend, Ind.

Buttigieg rose to the field's top tier but failed to notch enough wins in the critical early states necessary to keep his bid moving forward.

The millennial, Afghan War veteran and former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, defied expectations in a field of better-known candidates for months while becoming the first openly gay top contender for a major party nomination.

“Mayor Pete” burst onto the scene with a blitz of national media a year ago and impressive fundraising. He leaned hard into a next-generation message of urgency on pressing issues while preaching a message of hope and inclusion.

https://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/pete-buttigieg-dropping-out-of-presidential-race
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2020, 04:56:04 PM
Smart.   He will have a long career.  Sanders is a fng communist and even Dems are not cool w it.

It appears they are banking on Sleepy Joe.

Clear out all the other moderates who might take away from that Biden vote and try to prevent a Bernie nomination.

Perhaps Bloomberg has invested too much money and is in it unt the very end?


Pete Buttigieg dropping out of presidential race


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SOUTH BEND — Democrat Pete Buttigieg is ending his campaign for president.

Three people with knowledge of Buttigieg’s decision tell The Associated Press he is informing campaign staff. They were not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity.

His campaign says Buttigieg will speak Sunday night in South Bend, Ind.

Buttigieg rose to the field's top tier but failed to notch enough wins in the critical early states necessary to keep his bid moving forward.

The millennial, Afghan War veteran and former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, defied expectations in a field of better-known candidates for months while becoming the first openly gay top contender for a major party nomination.

“Mayor Pete” burst onto the scene with a blitz of national media a year ago and impressive fundraising. He leaned hard into a next-generation message of urgency on pressing issues while preaching a message of hope and inclusion.

https://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/pete-buttigieg-dropping-out-of-presidential-race
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on March 01, 2020, 06:12:44 PM
Buttcrack will now run for Senator.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on March 01, 2020, 06:40:26 PM
Buttcrack will now run for Senator.

 ;D

He's soooooooooo brave.  ;)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on March 01, 2020, 06:42:59 PM
Buttcrack will now run for Senator.

Earliest would be a 2022 run, so I think he'll get a gig on one of the lefty cable news networks in the interim.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 01, 2020, 07:42:29 PM
Booty Judge ... "pulled the plug" on his campaign because his support "bottomed out".  :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2020, 05:08:04 AM
Klobuchar cancels campaign rally after protests (BLM)
The Hill ^ | 03 01 2020 | John Bowden
Posted on 3/1/2020, 11:53:04 PM by yesthatjallen

Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) canceled a campaign rally in St. Louis Park, Minn., on Sunday after protesters reportedly affiliated with Black Lives Matter and other civil rights groups took the stage at her event for over an hour.

In a statement obtained by The New York Times, Klobuchar's campaign said the senator offered to meet with demonstrators in exchange for them exiting the stage and allowing her rally to proceed, adding that the protesters initially agreed to such terms before reportedly backing out and refusing to leave the stage.

“The campaign offered a meeting with the senator if they would leave the stage after being on the stage for more than an hour,” a spokesperson for the Klobuchar campaign told the Times. “After initially agreeing, the group backed out, and we are now canceling the event.”

The campaign did not immediately return a request for further comment from The Hill.

Klobuchar has faced calls to suspend her campaign from Black Lives Matter and NAACP activists over her role in the criminal prosecution of Myon Burrell, an African American man who was convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison while still a teenager. Klobuchar was the lead attorney in the county at the time of his initial trial, and she later denied a request for him to attend his mother's funeral after he was imprisoned.

Burrell's case has become a point of criticism for Klobuchar's campaign, as many including the victim's father believe he may have been wrongfully convicted.

SNIP

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on March 02, 2020, 05:28:59 AM
Klobuchar will be next to drop out.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 02, 2020, 10:00:38 AM
Tom Steyer Drops Out Of 2020 Presidential Race
February 29, 2020
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/29/801952931/tom-steyer-to-drop-out-of-2020-presidential-race
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 02, 2020, 10:03:03 AM
It appears they are banking on Sleepy Joe.

Clear out all the other moderates who might take away from that Biden vote and try to prevent a Bernie nomination.

Perhaps Bloomberg has invested too much money and is in it unt the very end?


Pete Buttigieg dropping out of presidential race


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SOUTH BEND — Democrat Pete Buttigieg is ending his campaign for president.

Three people with knowledge of Buttigieg’s decision tell The Associated Press he is informing campaign staff. They were not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity.

His campaign says Buttigieg will speak Sunday night in South Bend, Ind.

Buttigieg rose to the field's top tier but failed to notch enough wins in the critical early states necessary to keep his bid moving forward.

The millennial, Afghan War veteran and former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, defied expectations in a field of better-known candidates for months while becoming the first openly gay top contender for a major party nomination.

“Mayor Pete” burst onto the scene with a blitz of national media a year ago and impressive fundraising. He leaned hard into a next-generation message of urgency on pressing issues while preaching a message of hope and inclusion.

https://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/pete-buttigieg-dropping-out-of-presidential-race

Yeah I think they are definitely trying to stop Bernie at this point.  They need to stop a socialist so Biden can win.  What a horrible predicament for Democrats.  I think Trump would crush Biden or Bernie. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2020, 10:10:40 AM
Yeah I think they are definitely trying to stop Bernie at this point.  They need to stop a socialist so Biden can win.  What a horrible predicament for Democrats.  I think Trump would crush Biden or Bernie. 

Bernie is a damn communist!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 02, 2020, 10:13:11 AM
Bernie is a damn communist!


And a hypocrite.  He is dangerous. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2020, 10:48:26 AM
Klobuchar is ending her presidential bid, will endorse Biden
The Seattle Times ^ | March 2, 2020 | Sara Burnett




Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar ended her Democratic presidential campaign on Monday and endorse rival Joe Biden in an effort to unify moderate voters behind the former vice president’s White House bid.

She is flying to Dallas and plans to join Biden at his rally Monday night.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 02, 2020, 10:59:58 AM
Klobuchar will be next to drop out.

Good call.

Klobuchar is ending her presidential bid, will endorse Biden
The Seattle Times ^ | March 2, 2020 | Sara Burnett




Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar ended her Democratic presidential campaign on Monday and endorse rival Joe Biden in an effort to unify moderate voters behind the former vice president’s White House bid.

She is flying to Dallas and plans to join Biden at his rally Monday night.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2020, 11:06:00 AM
More New York Jews Would Vote Trump Than Bernie Sanders
FRONTPAGE ^ | 3/2/20 | Daniel


More New York Jews Would Vote Trump Than Bernie Sanders It’s about Israel. But not just about Israel.

Mon Mar 2, 2020 Daniel Greenfield 33

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is an investigative journalist and writer focusing on the radical Left and Islamic terrorism.

Donald J. Trump and Bernie Sanders have one thing in common. They both came out of New York.

But where Trump stayed and built up the city, Bernie absconded to Vermont. And after fifty years in the wilderness, there’s still the accent and the grumbling about the Brooklyn Dodgers to remind you of where he came from. But the Jews of Brooklyn and the other four boroughs don’t want Bernie back.

The latest Siena College poll shows that President Trump has a higher approval rating among New York’s Jews than Senator Sanders.

50% of Jewish people in New York rate Trump positively. Meanwhile 61% rate Sanders negatively.

Only 6% of Jews would vote for Bernie Sanders on Super Tuesday.

And more Jews would vote for Trump over Sanders on Election Day.

Jewish support for Trump is striking in a state where his overall unfavorable rating is 61% negative to 36% positive. At 50%, Jews rate Trump more highly than white people in general (42%), and upstate residents (39%). The White House has worked hard to connect with more traditional and religious Jews in Brooklyn. They were the ones who stayed when Bernie and his peers left. And it shows.

Some would be tempted to dismiss a single poll, but a previous Siena poll in the fall of last year showed that only 4% of Jews in New York supported Sanders. Since then he’s gained a whole 2%.

New York’s Jewish population of approximately 1.75 million represents somewhat less than a quarter of the national Jewish population. So how do these numbers translate to Jews nationwide?

Pew’s national poll found only 11% of Jews backing Bernie. A Morning Consult poll showed the same number.

That’s probably not a coincidence.

And a Forward survey found that, compared to other candidates, Jews formed the smallest part of Bernie’s donor base.

Why don’t Jews like Bernie?

There’s Israel. Sure. The socialist had called for ending arms sales to Israel before the Yom Kippur War. That would have probably led to the destruction of Israel and the deaths of millions of Jews. He’s championed Hamas as the victims of an Israeli blockade of Gaza while spreading falsehoods about Israel’s efforts to defend its people against Islamic terrorism. And he’s refused to apologize for the lies.

There’s still no apology for Bernie’s blood libel about Israel killing 10,000 “innocent people” in Gaza.

And Bernie has never met a leftist anti-Semite he didn’t immediately endorse. From Jesse ‘Hymietown’ Jackson to Al Sharpton to Keith Ellison to Ilhan Omar, he’s always stood with anti-Semites against Jews.

It’s not just hatred of Israel. The rhetoric of the Bernie camp often spills over into overt anti-Semitism.

Belen Sisa, Bernie’s deputy press secretary, claimed that, “The American government and American Jewish community has a dual allegiance to the state of Israel."

Imam Omar Suleiman, who spoke at a Bernie rally in Texas, had posted that, “Zionists are the enemies of God” and tweeted, while Israel was fighting Hamas, “A third intifada is near insha'Allah. #FreePalestine.”

But it’s not just Israel and anti-Semitism.

New York City’s Jewish communities are more religious and conservative than the rest of the country.

An entire generation of Bernies left behind Brooklyn for academia. They settled in leafy suburbs and smaller cities, and set off to save the world. Meanwhile the Jews who were left behind had to deal with a broken city overrun by criminals and mismanaged by progressives obsessed with social justice.

Two years ago, Senator Bernie Sanders introduced a bill to end bail. New York actually did. The disastrous criminal justice reform proposal led to a spike in crime and anti-Semitic attacks.

In the same Siena poll, 53% of Jews said that so-called “cashless bail” was bad for New York.

Bernie Sanders wants open borders and an end to immigration enforcement. 54% of Jews in New York oppose handing out driver’s licenses to illegal aliens.

It’s not just that Bernie is bad on Israel and anti-Semitism. Jews don’t like a lot of his other policies.

Bernie’s problems with Jewish voters are symptoms of a larger problem for Democrats.

Bernie Sanders scores best with young voters. But the American Jewish community, even more than the general white population, has been growing older. Only around 10% of American Jews are 18 to 24. A quarter are over 65. These demographics are structurally unfavorable to radicals like Bernie Sanders.

Sanders, Warren, and their allies have fastened on to the tiny anti-Israel demographic represented by the hate group If Not Now as representative of the “youth”. They aren’t. Of course. But there isn’t much youth to go around in a community that, like other white groups, is aging and increasingly irreligious.

Unaffiliated millennials are more challenging to organize around a religious identity that they lack and the growing number of Orthodox Jews tend to be politically conservative. If Not Now represents an attempt to organize a narrow group around an anti-Israel identity. As marginal as they may be.

Democrats have a choice between pursuing the votes of a large slab of older liberal pro-Israel voters, a micro slice of young anti-Israel voters, or a growing number of young conservative Jewish voters.

The Sanders campaign decided to stay with its brand and target the tiny number of anti-Israel voters. Some have blamed it for alienating older pro-Israel liberal voters and the younger social conservative Jewish voters, but it had no shot at the latter, and its prospects with the older generation were slim.

That’s why the Siena polls show Bernie doing so badly in New York.

This isn’t just bad news for Bernie. The shifting political demographics of the Democrats and of the Jewish community makes them two trains slowly passing in the night. The only reliable Jewish Democrat demographic is moderate and aging while the Democrats are trending leftward and seeking young voters. Jewish millennials are being separated out into two large groups of the unaffiliateds, who can’t be courted on Jewish terms, and the socially conservative who don’t fit into the Democrat Party. And a tiny slice of anti-Israel millennials subsidized by Soros, and other aged donors who are the past.

Israel and the growing anti-Semitism on the Left are flashpoints. But not the only flashpoints.

Unaffiliated Jewish millennials are moving back to the urban areas that their parents and grandparents, like Bernie, abandoned for suburban communities, and smaller cities and towns. Meanwhile the burgeoning Orthodox Jewish population is exiting the overpriced and troubled urban areas for the suburbs. The two populations are passing each other on the way out in Brooklyn, where Chassidim and hipsters differ not only on bike lanes and school vouchers, but on support for President Trump.

The classic culture clash between the city and the suburbs is being revisited among Jews.

President Trump and Senator Sanders are on the opposite sides of that clash between safe streets and social justice, small business and excessive regulation, and community values and civic gatekeeping.

The liberal Jews of generations past often, at times unwillingly, subjugated their own interests, personal and communal, to the civic liberalism that destroyed the cities because it was their only value system. But a new traditional Jewish population that is departing the cities is immune to the guilt complexes of liberalism. Accusations of racism and planetary destruction are meaningless noise to religious people who believe in G-d and the Bible, and are free to want parking spaces, instead of bike lanes, plastic bags, property values, low taxes, limited regulations, and safe streets, without feeling the least bit of guilt.

There are still plenty of liberal Jews around. But Bernie has the least ability to push their guilt buttons.

The lack of Jewish support is starkest with Bernie because of his overt hostility to Israel, his lack of any connection to the Jewish community, and paradoxically, his Jewish ancestry. Liberal Jewish voting habits are the product of minority insecurities more than anything else. It’s easier for liberal Jews to turn their backs on Bernie than on Carter or Obama, without fearing they’ll be accused of betraying the majority.

Liberal Jews of generations past feared being seen as selfish outsiders. Their pathological altruism began as a defense mechanism and ended up as the only value system of a people who had lost their soul.

The easiest anti-Israel leftist for liberal Jews to vote against is one who came out of their community.

That’s bad news for Bernie, who rejected all Jewish communal attachments and values, only to be discriminated against for the vestigial cultural signals of an ancient Jewish Brooklynite past by Jews.

Trump has as much in common culturally with many New York Jews as Bernie does. If there’s any Republican they would be comfortable voting for on a national ticket, it would be Trump. It’s once again about Israel, but not just about Israel. Bernie’s Brooklyn accent and Trump’s Queens accent, their prickly attitudes and certitudes, are the mark of born New Yorkers. But very different kinds of New Yorkers.

Bernie left the city only to return at the head of an army of obnoxious hipsters. Trump stayed, built it up, and tried to make it safe for the people living there. Bernie is coming back. Trump never left.

And among communities who never left, that counts for a lot.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 02, 2020, 11:54:09 AM
Klobuchar is ending her presidential bid, will endorse Biden
The Seattle Times ^ | March 2, 2020 | Sara Burnett




Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar ended her Democratic presidential campaign on Monday and endorse rival Joe Biden in an effort to unify moderate voters behind the former vice president’s White House bid.

She is flying to Dallas and plans to join Biden at his rally Monday night.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...

Some thought she could take Minnesota but with her gone now that's probably yet another state that Bernie wins with little problem.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on March 02, 2020, 01:37:14 PM
 :-X

https://twitter.com/i/status/1234579299652554753
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 02, 2020, 01:44:37 PM
:-X

https://twitter.com/i/status/1234579299652554753

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 02, 2020, 01:53:12 PM
Well, that's a wrap on your campaign.

Just throwing your millions out the window at this point.

Churchgoers in Selma turn their backs on Bloomberg during service



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Congregants at the historic Brown Chapel AME Church in Selma, Alabama, silently protested 2020 presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg as he delivered remarks there Sunday, standing and turning their backs on the former New York City mayor.

Bloomberg addressed the congregation at Brown Chapel AME Church during a church service in which he discussed voter suppression and the fight for civil rights. But roughly 10 minutes into his remarks, several in attendance rose from their seats and silently turned away from him.

Before he spoke, Bloomberg was introduced by the Reverend Leodis Strong, a pastor for the historic church, which was a key meeting place for activists during the civil rights movement. Strong recalled first inviting the presidential candidate to appear before churchgoers and said Bloomberg initially declined the request, citing his campaign schedule.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-bloomberg-selma-alabama-churchgoers-turn-backs/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 02, 2020, 06:30:11 PM
So let me get this straight.....the candidates from the “Party of diversity” are three old white guys ?

Liberals have taken stupidity to new heights.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 02, 2020, 06:42:43 PM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Skeletor on March 02, 2020, 08:57:52 PM
Creepy Joe now tries to recruit Bozo O'Rourke...

O'Rourke endorses Biden at Dallas rally on eve of Super Tuesday, as ex-VP appears to offer gun-control role

In a surprise moment at the end of his Dallas rally on the eve of Super Tuesday, former Vice President Joe Biden called former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke up to the stage -- and vowed to put O'Rourke, who has said the government should forcibly seize assault rifles from Americans, in charge of gun-control efforts.

Also at the rally, Biden accepted the endorsements of onetime rivals Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar, as the Democratic party's moderate wing rallied behind Biden to challenge anti-establishment frontrunner and self-described "democratic socialist" Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.

"Ladies and gentlemen, tomorrow, March 3, 2020, I will be casting my ballot for Joe Biden," O'Rourke announced to applause at the rally's conclusion.

O'Rourke called President Trump an "existential threat" to "free and fair elections," and urged rallygoers to view Biden as the "antithesis of Donald Trump," someone who is "decent, kind, caring, and empathetic."

Biden, taking the microphone after O'Rourke spoke, then announced, "I want to make something clear -- I'm gonna guarantee you, this is not the last you're seeing of this guy -- you're gonna take care of the gun problem with me, you're gonna be the one who leads this effort. I'm counting on you, I'm counting on you, we need you badly."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-rally-texas-buttigieg-klobuchar-endorsement

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on March 02, 2020, 08:58:08 PM
So let me get this straight.....the candidates from the “Party of diversity” are three old white guys ?

Liberals have taken stupidity to new heights.

Milton Bradley, Jim Beam, and B.S.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on March 02, 2020, 09:21:40 PM
PEDO for POTUS 2020 !!

Let's do this thing!!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2020, 05:37:32 AM
The Democrat Clown Show Moves Into Outright Panic Mode
DB Daily Update ^ | David Blackmon
Posted on 3/3/2020, 8:15:09 AM by EyesOfTX

The Democrat Party’s “establishment”, i.e., the part of the party’s leadership that still tries to hide its’ true socialist nature, is pulling out all the stops for Quid Pro Joe. – Having now realized that Mini-Mike Bloomberg is too inept and flawed as a candidate to ever be able to unite the party’s demented voter base, the Democrat poobahs pulled out all the stops on Monday to try to lift their Unfrozen Caveman Senator to wins in some key Super Tuesday states today.

It probably won’t work, given that “pulling out all the stops” just means that Crazy Uncle Joe received the endorsements of several people who already failed miserably in their own attempts to do what he’s trying to do. First came Preacher Pete, who suddenly ended his campaign Sunday afternoon after reportedly speaking to both Jimmy Carter and Barack Hussein Obama His Own Self.

No doubt the Preacher was promised a nice, cushy cabinet spot for his troubles. Try to imagine this guy as your next Secretary of Defense, and you probably get the idea.

Next came Amy Klobuchar, who apparently got the same Obama call about 18 hours before she was poised to win the primary in her home state of Minnesota. There’s your next secretary of Homeland Security or Housing and Urban Development, folks, should Joe manage to Quid Pro his way into the Oval Office.

Serial looooooser Irish Bob O’Rourke even got into act, flying out to somewhere – I’m not sure where – to deliver an endorsement speech at a Biden event in another half-empty high school gym. After O’Rourke had finished, the Unfrozen Caveman Senator got up and delivered another incoherent speech that included this little gem:

Steve Guest ✔ @SteveGuest This is a direct quote from Joe Biden:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident. All men and women created by the you know, you know the thing."

Embedded video 29.2K 2:40 PM - Mar 2, 2020 Twitter Ads info and privacy 14.9K people are talking about this Yes, you heard it right: “We hold these truths to be self-evident. All men and women created by the, you know, you know, the thing. You know, how we talk about. The, we, the people.” Somewhere, Thomas Jefferson is rolling over in his grave.

The obviously impaired geezer also apparently thinks Buttigieg is actually Eric Swalwell:

Tommy Pigott @TCPigott Joe Biden appears to confuse Pete Buttigieg with Eric Swalwell while accepting Buttigieg's endorsement, attributing Swalwell's "pass the torch" line from the debate to Buttigieg.

Embedded video 797 7:19 PM - Mar 2, 2020 Twitter Ads info and privacy 467 people are talking about this You could never make this stuff up, folks, never in a million years.

The Commie, Bernie Sanders, seemed unfazed by it all, being used as he is to seeing the Democrat establishment working to rig elections against him. He made a speech in San Jose, California in which he welcomed all the former Buittigieg and Klubuchar supporters into his fold, knowing that a large percentage of those folks – especially among the Preacher Pete support base – are commies at heart. He most likely laughed out loud when he saw O’Rourke trying to make himself relevant to something again.

Meanwhile, Mini-Mike Bloomberg made an ass of himself on national TV one more time, making the strategic error of appearing in a town hall on Fox News. Watch his answer when an audience member asks, “How do you justify pushing for more gun control when you have an armed security detail that is likely equipped with the same firearms and magazines you seek to ban the common citizen from owning? Does your life matter more than mine or my family’s, or these people’s?

Jason Howerton ✔ @jason_howerton Michael Bloomberg is ENDED by a citizen on gun control:

"You have an armed security detail that is likely equipped with the same firearms and magazines you seek to ban the common citizen from owning. Does your life matter more than mine or my family's?"

Embedded video 14.4K 7:02 PM - Mar 2, 2020 Twitter Ads info and privacy 5,570 people are talking about this Bloomberg: “Look, I probably get 40-50 threats every week, ok, and some of them are real. That just happens when you are the mayor of New York City, or if you’re very wealthy and you’re campaigning for president of the United States. You get lots of threats, so I have a security detail. I pay for it all myself, and, uh, um, you know, they’re all retired police officers who are very well trained in firearms.”

Oh. Does anything he said there justify his position of banning common citizens from owning firearms? What he just said there is exactly what you’d expect a hubris-consumed person of massive wealth and privilege to say: “It’s fine for very wealthy people like me and my security detail to have guns because we need them to protect us from people like you.”

Note that he rubs this ordinary guy’s nose in his own massive wealth not once, but twice in the span four sentences. An intelligent, well-coached candidate would have said something like, “Look, I’m a candidate for president right now, and before that I was mayor of New York City. The unfortunate reality of or society today is that, when you put yourself into those positions of public service, you have to have armed security because of all the threats you receive. I do not carry a gun in my personal life and never will.”

There, see how easy and much more effective that was? Who in the hell is advising this man?

The reality of Mini-Mike as a candidate is that he has got to be the single most clueless individual on the face of the earth. And this answer, in a nutshell, illustrates to us all why the Democrat party establishment is so panicked now to try to prop up the obviously impaired Biden.

Their efforts are probably too late and will most likely go for naught. There are 1357 convention delegates up for grabs today and the Commie is most likely going to win somewhere between 800 and 900 of them. The rest will be split up in some proportions between Quid Pro Joe, Mini-Mike and Fauxcahontas, who has refused thus far to end her hopeless campaign, even though she most likely got the same call from Obama that the others received.

So, Gropey Dopey Joe might come away with 300 or so, with Mini-Mike and Lieawatha divvying up the rest.

By the end of the day today, a little more than 40% of the total delegates in this nominating race will have been awarded, and The Commie is poised to own right about half of the 1900+ he needs to win on a first ballot at the Democrat convention in July.

After yesterday’s events, you can literally smell the panic and fear setting in at DNC headquarters. For the rest of America, it is the aroma of #WINNING.

That is all.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on March 03, 2020, 05:12:08 PM
No panic baby!!

PEDO for POTUS 2020!!

All the way to the nomination for Senator in the White House  ::)

--

Love how everyone drops out BEFORE super Tuesday.... must have got a phone call from Hildog hit squad
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 03, 2020, 08:42:07 PM
Amazing that Bloomberg spent his entire life unable to notice that he is a repulsive guy.

Imagine throwing all that money trying to take out Bernie and getting nothing back - then the DNC telegraphs backing Biden.

Biden/Bloomberg ticket for DNC? Joe loves that financial backing that Bloomberg could offer. I know both are old white guys but let's be realistic...they aren't beating Trump anyway.

It's like the DNC suddenly took a look at Bernie Bros and decided to try and keep the older white suburban liberal and black vote after totally abandoning those demographics.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Desolate on March 04, 2020, 05:55:41 AM
Love how everyone drops out BEFORE super Tuesday.... must have got a phone call from Hildog hit squad

Exactly.

Basically told that they would have no future for themselves in the party if they didn't drop out and support Biden now.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 04, 2020, 07:31:52 AM
Exactly.

Basically told that they would have no future for themselves in the party if they didn't drop out and support Biden now.

Everyone except the one, Warren, who can take votes from Bernie.

The big winner, one again, Trump.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 04, 2020, 07:38:17 AM
Bloomberg drops out and endorses Biden, haha.

The billionaires, corporations and tech as big money donors are Democrats as a form of protection racket, they are not okay with socialism and would rather lose with Joe and keep their system in place.

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on March 04, 2020, 07:40:57 AM
Bloomberg drops out and endorses Biden, haha.

The billionaires, corporations and tech as big money donors are Democrats as a form of protection racket, they are not okay with socialism and would rather lose with Joe and keep their system in place.



Dow jumps as investors weigh Biden resurgence

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/03/04/dow-markets-biden-super-tuesday-coronavirus/4950498002/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Desolate on March 04, 2020, 07:48:33 AM
Everyone except the one, Warren, who can take votes from Bernie.

The big winner, one again, Trump.

100%.

If she stays in after losing Massachusetts, we know the fix is in just to hurt Sanders.

I'm sensing some money will magically appear in her campaign to keep her going.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 04, 2020, 07:58:35 AM
Liz Warren Is Finished After Her HUMILIATING Loss in Massachusetts (It's now down to Bernie vs. Biden)
PJ Media ^ | 03/04/2020 | Tyler O'Neil




Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Not to be confused with Pocahontas) arguably should end her presidential campaign after an embarrassing third-place finish in her home state of Massachusetts.

As of 11 p.m. Eastern, former Vice President Joe Biden had won the state with 33 percent of the vote, with Sen. Bernie Sanders (S-USSR) behind him at 27 percent. Warren trailed at 22 percent, almost 100,000 votes behind Biden.

 Decision Desk results for Massachusetts.
Not only did Warren lose her own state but she took third place, behind both the ostensible moderate Biden and the socialist Bernie Sanders.

If a presidential candidate cannot win her own state, how can she convince voters in other states to support her?

Before the 2020 race, Bernie Sanders reportedly told Warren that he would not enter the race if she decided to run. She did not get back to him. Sanders decided to run, but Warren also entered the race. The two share many dangerous extremist policies and have been competing over the same voters, but Bernie has enjoyed an edge from the beginning. Warren shot herself in the foot by accusing Bernie of telling her that a woman could not win the race.


(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on March 04, 2020, 09:08:13 AM
100%.

If she stays in after losing Massachusetts, we know the fix is in just to hurt Sanders.

I'm sensing some money will magically appear in her campaign to keep her going.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 04, 2020, 09:19:33 AM
The Bernie Bros are pissed. Some might go as far as voting for Trump out of spite, either that or just stay home and get high, most likely the latter.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 04, 2020, 09:47:54 AM
Would someone please PM Strawman the Suicide Prevention hotline phone number....
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 04, 2020, 09:52:13 AM
Liz Warren Is Finished After Her HUMILIATING Loss in Massachusetts (It's now down to Bernie vs. Biden)
PJ Media ^ | 03/04/2020 | Tyler O'Neil




Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Not to be confused with Pocahontas) arguably should end her presidential campaign after an embarrassing third-place finish in her home state of Massachusetts.

As of 11 p.m. Eastern, former Vice President Joe Biden had won the state with 33 percent of the vote, with Sen. Bernie Sanders (S-USSR) behind him at 27 percent. Warren trailed at 22 percent, almost 100,000 votes behind Biden.

 Decision Desk results for Massachusetts.
Not only did Warren lose her own state but she took third place, behind both the ostensible moderate Biden and the socialist Bernie Sanders.

If a presidential candidate cannot win her own state, how can she convince voters in other states to support her?

Before the 2020 race, Bernie Sanders reportedly told Warren that he would not enter the race if she decided to run. She did not get back to him. Sanders decided to run, but Warren also entered the race. The two share many dangerous extremist policies and have been competing over the same voters, but Bernie has enjoyed an edge from the beginning. Warren shot herself in the foot by accusing Bernie of telling her that a woman could not win the race.


(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...



Embarrassing.  This ranks up there with Al Gore losing his home state of Tennessee, which cost him the election.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 04, 2020, 10:02:31 AM
Seems like the DNC is just making it up as they go along. They thought Bloomberg might be the white knight but when he fizzled they realized they had to go back to Biden.

It doesn’t change anything. Biden is still an incoherent mess and a shitty candidate.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on March 04, 2020, 10:14:57 AM
Compared to the rest of the goofy candidates, Biden almost looks good.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on March 04, 2020, 10:35:29 AM
Sleepy Joe confuses his wife with his sister.

 ::)

https://news.grabien.com/story-abc-panelists-laughing-joe-biden-confusing-his-wife-his-sist
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 04, 2020, 10:46:51 AM
Would someone please PM Strawman the Suicide Prevention hotline phone number....


Has StrawMan ever actually stated who he/she supports? I don't recall any strong support for one of these wonderful options.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 04, 2020, 11:14:57 AM
Seems like the DNC is just making it up as they go along. They thought Bloomberg might be the white knight but when he fizzled they realized they had to go back to Biden.

It doesn’t change anything. Biden is still an incoherent mess and a shitty candidate.

I was STUNNED last night watching the results.

Bravo to the powers to be in the Democratic party, if there was ever a way to cut the throat of a candidate, they pulled it off with their recent manuevers against Bernie.

Mayor Pete and Amy Klobuchar pull out and immediately endorse Biden. As does Beto.

Warren has run on a progressive type platform and she stays in to help syphon even more votes away from Sanders.

Now Bloomberg has dropped out as well, further helping Biden.

It's just the idea of Biden as the candidate. The man can barely string together a couple sentences and how much worse will the deterioration be by November?

It almost seems like they would rather have 4 more years of Trump versus a Sander's presidency.

Could they toss it to Hillary at a brokered convention??

I wouldn't put anything past these people at this point.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on March 04, 2020, 11:38:10 AM
I was STUNNED last night watching the results.

Bravo to the powers to be in the Democratic party, if there was ever a way to cut the throat of a candidate, they pulled it off with their recent manuevers against Bernie.

Mayor Pete and Amy Klobuchar pull out and immediately endorse Biden. As does Beto.

Warren has run on a progressive type platform and she stays in to help syphon even more votes away from Sanders.

Now Bloomberg has dropped out as well, further helping Biden.

It's just the idea of Biden as the candidate. The man can barely string together a couple sentences and how much worse will the deterioration be by November?

It almost seems like they would rather have 4 more years of Trump versus a Sander's presidency.

Could they toss it to Hillary at a brokered convention??

I wouldn't put anything past these people at this point.

HRC could be VP.

Then, Biden backs out for health reasons.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 04, 2020, 11:38:29 AM
Sanders is a FNG goddamn red communist lazy leech.  He is a modern day Karl Marx who was also a lazy disgusting leech in real life.  I'm glad they iced Bernie.  

I was STUNNED last night watching the results.

Bravo to the powers to be in the Democratic party, if there was ever a way to cut the throat of a candidate, they pulled it off with their recent manuevers against Bernie.

Mayor Pete and Amy Klobuchar pull out and immediately endorse Biden. As does Beto.

Warren has run on a progressive type platform and she stays in to help syphon even more votes away from Sanders.

Now Bloomberg has dropped out as well, further helping Biden.

It's just the idea of Biden as the candidate. The man can barely string together a couple sentences and how much worse will the deterioration be by November?

It almost seems like they would rather have 4 more years of Trump versus a Sander's presidency.

Could they toss it to Hillary at a brokered convention??

I wouldn't put anything past these people at this point.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 04, 2020, 11:47:45 AM
HRC could be VP.

Then, Biden backs out for health reasons.

Haha, how far down the rabbit hole does this thing go ??

You very well could be right though, I wouldn't put anything past them.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 04, 2020, 11:48:12 AM
Apparently, collusion isn’t so bad after all.😂😂
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 04, 2020, 12:00:28 PM
I think a lot of the Bernie disciples will either stay home or vote for Trump in November. 

Biden is a train wreck. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 04, 2020, 12:05:25 PM
Apparently, collusion isn’t so bad after all.😂😂

 :D

Just think that in 11 days we could be looking at a debate with only Bernie and Biden on stage.

Joe has been able to sort of hide in all these other debates...Not now.

Get your popcorn ready for that one.

Bernie needs to for once in his life have some balls and push back against what is being done to him.

Trump would be looking to burn the entire place down if put in the same situation.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on March 04, 2020, 12:06:47 PM
The Democrats forced this on themselves when they chose to be the anti-Trump party, eventually caving into impeachment, instead of trying to work with him.

They should force Pelosi out.

She blew it.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 04, 2020, 12:09:16 PM
I think a lot of the Bernie disciples will either stay home or vote for Trump in November.  

Biden is a train wreck.  

Oh man some of these bigger progressive YouTube channels are coming unglued right now.

It's so glorious to watch.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 04, 2020, 12:12:27 PM
Oh man some of these bigger progressive YouTube channels are coming unglued right now.

It's so glorious to watch.

And I thought I was a glutton for punishment!   How do you even watch that garbage? 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 04, 2020, 12:17:55 PM

Has StrawMan ever actually stated who he/she supports? I don't recall any strong support for one of these wonderful options.

He is a Hillary Clinton fanboi

He also supports crying, bedwetting, male-male incest, communism, stupidity, and boy bands.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 04, 2020, 12:55:52 PM
And I thought I was a glutton for punishment!   How do you even watch that garbage? 

I just love the delusions of it all.

In some of their minds - Medicare for All, A New Green Deal, free college, college debt forgiveness, affordable housing, banning of fossil fuels(etc etc)....

To some of these people, those are CENTRIST ideas, popular with the vast majority of the country.

And if you just had SOMEONE... somebody with the balls to push that agenda, their side would win every single contest with the ease of a 1987 prime Mike Tyson going up against some undersized, unranked bum.

"We'd take Wyoming and Utah!!"

And although I disagree politically, I must admit that some of these people actually are pretty funny so when you mix that with the hard cold truth of reality slapping them dead across the face...it's makes for quite the delicious cocktail to ingest  :)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 04, 2020, 01:09:09 PM
Pathetic losers and freaks 


I just love the delusions of it all.

In some of their minds - Medicare for All, A New Green Deal, free college, college debt forgiveness, affordable housing, banning of fossil fuels(etc etc)....

To some of these people, those are CENTRIST ideas, popular with the vast majority of the country.

And if you just had SOMEONE... somebody with the balls to push that agenda, their side would win every single contest with the ease of a 1987 prime Mike Tyson going up against some undersized, unranked bum.

"We'd take Wyoming and Utah!!"

And although I disagree politically, I must admit that some of these people actually are pretty funny so when you mix that with the hard cold truth of reality slapping them dead across the face...it's makes for quite the delicious cocktail to ingest  :)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 04, 2020, 04:12:03 PM
    View in browser | nytimes.com

 

 
BREAKING NEWS
The S&P 500 rose more than 4 percent, bouncing back after a steep drop as investors reacted to Joe Biden’s strong Super Tuesday showing.

Wednesday, March 4, 2020 4:19 PM EST
Health care stocks led the gains on Wednesday, rising more than 5 percent. Shares of insurers like UnitedHealth Group and Anthem Health rose more than 10 percent.
“The strong result by Joe Biden in the Democratic primaries last night are a significant positive development for the market,” Marko Kolanovic, a strategist at JPMorgan Chase wrote in a note to clients. “It likely removes the possibility of a far left candidate — a risk that was rattling markets last week.”

 

 
 

 
 


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 04, 2020, 05:08:39 PM
Pathetic losers and freaks 


At least the stock market will rally because now Wall Street is sure of a President Donald Trump re-election
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on March 04, 2020, 05:41:09 PM
The GREATEST and MOST IMPORTANT statistic from Super Tuesday is RECORD VOTER TURNOUT for Democrats! Just WAIT until November.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 04, 2020, 06:34:15 PM
The GREATEST and MOST IMPORTANT statistic from Super Tuesday is RECORD VOTER TURNOUT for Democrats! Just WAIT until November.

“ While some in the media spent much of Super Tuesday reveling in Joe Biden's awakening from political death, they entirely missed the untold story of Super Tuesday: President Donald Trump's record-breaking vote counts and turnout.

Despite being an uncontested incumbent, President Trump managed to break several turnout and vote-count records in blue states and key swing states.

In Vermont and Minnesota, Trump's vote totals beat every past incumbent's total in the last four decades. In Maine, the president's vote total bested every primary candidate's total since before President Ronald Reagan. In Massachusetts, the story was similar, with Trump aggregating a higher vote total than past incumbent Republicans since before Reagan.”

The Hill - March 4, 2020
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 04, 2020, 09:23:43 PM
The GREATEST and MOST IMPORTANT statistic from Super Tuesday is RECORD VOTER TURNOUT for Democrats! Just WAIT until November.


How many double counts and dead people voted for Biden Tuesday?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on March 04, 2020, 10:28:59 PM
“ While some in the media spent much of Super Tuesday reveling in Joe Biden's awakening from political death, they entirely missed the untold story of Super Tuesday: President Donald Trump's record-breaking vote counts and turnout.

Despite being an uncontested incumbent, President Trump managed to break several turnout and vote-count records in blue states and key swing states.

In Vermont and Minnesota, Trump's vote totals beat every past incumbent's total in the last four decades. In Maine, the president's vote total bested every primary candidate's total since before President Ronald Reagan. In Massachusetts, the story was similar, with Trump aggregating a higher vote total than past incumbent Republicans since before Reagan.”

The Hill - March 4, 2020

The writing's on the wall. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on March 05, 2020, 04:43:14 AM
“ While some in the media spent much of Super Tuesday reveling in Joe Biden's awakening from political death, they entirely missed the untold story of Super Tuesday: President Donald Trump's record-breaking vote counts and turnout.

Despite being an uncontested incumbent, President Trump managed to break several turnout and vote-count records in blue states and key swing states.

In Vermont and Minnesota, Trump's vote totals beat every past incumbent's total in the last four decades. In Maine, the president's vote total bested every primary candidate's total since before President Ronald Reagan. In Massachusetts, the story was similar, with Trump aggregating a higher vote total than past incumbent Republicans since before Reagan.”

The Hill - March 4, 2020

Many long dead people awakening from death too just to vote for him.  DNC necromancy at play here.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 05, 2020, 07:35:33 AM
Many long dead people awakening from death too just to vote for him.  DNC necromancy at play here.

 ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 05, 2020, 08:02:59 AM
Skip to comments.

Elizabeth Warren ends presidential run
NBC ^
Posted on 03/05/2020 7:47:30 AM PST by outpostinmass2

Sen. Elizabeth Warren is suspending her presidential campaign, a source familiar with the decision tells NBC News, a bitter blow for a senator who was long seen by prominent Democrats as headed for the White House.

The decision ends a frantic year of campaigning for a candidate who branded herself as a progressive fighter from humble beginnings who was ready to take on a broken and corrupt system.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 05, 2020, 08:27:09 AM
Skip to comments.

Elizabeth Warren ends presidential run
NBC ^
Posted on 03/05/2020 7:47:30 AM PST by outpostinmass2

Sen. Elizabeth Warren is suspending her presidential campaign, a source familiar with the decision tells NBC News, a bitter blow for a senator who was long seen by prominent Democrats as headed for the White House.

The decision ends a frantic year of campaigning for a candidate who branded herself as a progressive fighter from humble beginnings who was ready to take on a broken and corrupt system.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...

So next debate we are looking at Bernie vs. Biden and MAYBE Tulsi??

She did win a delegate with American Samoa and is still in the race.

Could be interesting to see her in there as that sort of third wheel flame thrower.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 05, 2020, 08:38:52 AM
Will someone please keep Strawphaggot away from sharp objects for a few days.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 05, 2020, 03:12:17 PM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on March 05, 2020, 04:55:14 PM
Will someone please keep Strawphaggot away from sharp objects for a few days.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 05, 2020, 05:42:49 PM
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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 05, 2020, 06:16:24 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/39xrrk.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 06, 2020, 04:14:28 AM
Woe is Elizabeth Warren’s staff after their candidate bails
Boston Herald ^ | 5 Mar 2020 | Hilary Chabot
Posted on 3/6/2020, 2:16:54 AM by Rummyfan

Woebegone Elizabeth Warren staffers — heartbroken and adrift after the Cambridge Democrat tearily ended her presidential campaign Thursday following on ignominious Super Tuesday showing — cried, drank, sought comfort dogs and made personal fundraising pitches as they faced sudden unemployment.

“Does anyone in Logan Square have a pug that I can hang out with,” tweeted Morgan Sperry, an organizer for Warren, just as news broke that Warren would leave the race.

“Feels like someone should’ve put the liquor store and bar down the street on notice this AM,” Warren’s national political director Rebecca Pearcey tweeted.

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonherald.com ...



HA HA HA HA!!!!! 

BUNCH OF PUSSIES! 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 06, 2020, 04:17:38 AM
Commentary: Democrats’ rejection of Elizabeth Warren shows misogyny is still rampant
Chicago Tribune ^ | 3/05/20 | EMILY L. HAUSER
Posted on 3/6/2020, 5:59:24 AM

**SNIP**

Anyone who hasn’t had those experiences, or known what it’s like to plan an entire day and an entire life around the possibility of sexual assault or harassment, or what it’s like to be the only one of your gender in a room marked by power, or what it’s like to have your reproductive freedom legislated by people with different reproductive organs - simply brings a different sensibility to the issues that shape the lives of 164 million Americans. It matters that women are so often absent from the halls of power, and it’s well past time for one to be in the White House.

But Warren’s campaign - for which I have canvassed across state lines, made calls, live-tweeted speeches and raised more than $10,000 - faltered and finally ended Thursday. Despite her wisdom, compassion and proven success in establishing the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, unseating an incumbent Republican in Massachusetts and destroying the campaign of a billionaire with a history of sexual harassment complaints (bye, Mike Bloomberg) - Democrats, the ostensible party of progressive values, have decided they prefer one of two near-80-year-old men: Joe Biden, who oversaw the shameful railroading of Anita Hill in the 1991 Clarence Thomas hearings, or Bernie Sanders, a man who was unaware that his 2016 campaign had been roiled with complaints of sexual harassment and gender pay disparities and when later asked about it by Anderson Cooper, responded that he hadn’t known at the time because he was “a little bit busy running around the country.”

Of course, both men have also supported women: Biden introduced the 1994 Violence Against Women Act, and Sanders has since adopted a sexual harassment policy that he terms “the gold standard.” How wonderful that they have some notion that women, too, deserve full citizenship rights.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 06, 2020, 09:00:13 AM
Commentary: Democrats’ rejection of Elizabeth Warren shows misogyny is still rampant
Chicago Tribune ^ | 3/05/20 | EMILY L. HAUSER
Posted on 3/6/2020, 5:59:24 AM

**SNIP**

Anyone who hasn’t had those experiences, or known what it’s like to plan an entire day and an entire life around the possibility of sexual assault or harassment, or what it’s like to be the only one of your gender in a room marked by power, or what it’s like to have your reproductive freedom legislated by people with different reproductive organs - simply brings a different sensibility to the issues that shape the lives of 164 million Americans. It matters that women are so often absent from the halls of power, and it’s well past time for one to be in the White House.

But Warren’s campaign - for which I have canvassed across state lines, made calls, live-tweeted speeches and raised more than $10,000 - faltered and finally ended Thursday. Despite her wisdom, compassion and proven success in establishing the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, unseating an incumbent Republican in Massachusetts and destroying the campaign of a billionaire with a history of sexual harassment complaints (bye, Mike Bloomberg) - Democrats, the ostensible party of progressive values, have decided they prefer one of two near-80-year-old men: Joe Biden, who oversaw the shameful railroading of Anita Hill in the 1991 Clarence Thomas hearings, or Bernie Sanders, a man who was unaware that his 2016 campaign had been roiled with complaints of sexual harassment and gender pay disparities and when later asked about it by Anderson Cooper, responded that he hadn’t known at the time because he was “a little bit busy running around the country.”

Of course, both men have also supported women: Biden introduced the 1994 Violence Against Women Act, and Sanders has since adopted a sexual harassment policy that he terms “the gold standard.” How wonderful that they have some notion that women, too, deserve full citizenship rights.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...



Not true....Tulsi Gabbard is still in the race.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 06, 2020, 09:06:46 AM
Not true....Tulsi Gabbard is still in the race.

According to libidiots she is a Russian agent.   >:(
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on March 06, 2020, 04:58:32 PM
Not true....Tulsi Gabbard is still in the race.

and Hildog won in 2016
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on March 06, 2020, 05:41:30 PM
Not true....Tulsi Gabbard is still in the race.

DNC gonna DNC

New standards eliminate Tulsi Gabbard from next Democratic debate

The Democratic National Committee (DNC) on Friday announced new qualifying standards for the
upcoming Arizona debate that will leave only the top two contenders on stage.

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) did not meet the single qualifying factor: earning at least 20 percent
of the delegates awarded as of March 15.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and former Vice President Joe Biden are the only candidates who have
qualified for the debate, which will be hosted by CNN and Univision on March 15 in Phoenix.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486348-new-standards-eliminate-tulsi-gabbard-from-next-democratic-debate
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 06, 2020, 06:07:49 PM
Honestly they need Tulsi. The more they talk the worse it gets for both Biden and Bernie. Biden can't beat Bernie because Bernie can still talk like he did 5 years ago....issues don't even matter if you can't get a sentence out. At some point the "mis-speaking" and "mis-remembering" that Biden does will not be spin-able and a 2 person debate is where it becomes obvious.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 06, 2020, 06:13:08 PM
DNC gonna DNC

New standards eliminate Tulsi Gabbard from next Democratic debate

The Democratic National Committee (DNC) on Friday announced new qualifying standards for the
upcoming Arizona debate that will leave only the top two contenders on stage.

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) did not meet the single qualifying factor: earning at least 20 percent
of the delegates awarded as of March 15.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and former Vice President Joe Biden are the only candidates who have
qualified for the debate, which will be hosted by CNN and Univision on March 15 in Phoenix.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486348-new-standards-eliminate-tulsi-gabbard-from-next-democratic-debate

February jobs report: U.S. adds a whopping 273K jobs, unemployment rate unexpectedly falls to 3.5% !!


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 06, 2020, 06:51:56 PM
and Hildog won in 2016

Time for Hillary Clinton to drunkenly crawl out from under a rock to claim the candidacy at a brokered convention.

🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 06, 2020, 07:11:31 PM
Time for Hillary Clinton to drunkenly crawl out from under a rock to claim the candidacy at a brokered convention.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

An even scarier possibility is Biden wins and then checks out a few months later, leaving us with President Stacey Abrams.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 06, 2020, 08:00:26 PM
An even scarier possibility is Biden wins and then checks out a few months later, leaving us with President Stacey Abrams.

The possibility of Biden beating Trump is ZERO !

Stacey Abrams can continue to chew corn on the cob through a picket fence.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on March 06, 2020, 08:03:36 PM
An even scarier possibility is Biden wins and then checks out a few months later, leaving us with President Stacey Abrams.

(https://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll233/AURaptor/gollumimnotlistening_zps18ba8547.gif)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on March 07, 2020, 11:04:56 PM
From 15 to 2  :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Griffith on March 08, 2020, 12:33:56 AM
Hope the democrats are mentally preparing themselves for another 4 years of Trump  ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 08, 2020, 12:48:54 AM
Hope the democrats are mentally preparing themselves for another 4 years of Trump  ;D

How does one do that? How do you prepare for a egomaniac who is also a liar and a cheat?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 08, 2020, 04:33:14 AM
How does one do that? How do you prepare for a egomaniac who is also a liar and a cheat?


The same way the rest us did under Clinton and Obama.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on March 08, 2020, 08:50:48 AM
How does one do that? How do you prepare for a egomaniac who is also a liar and a cheat?

Sheesh...Calm down, tune into Netfux and re-watch "The Manholelorian".


FFS, you libs want to deny Americans the right to be Americans.  To like what they like.  To speak their mind rather than what you tell them to.  To protect themselves, their families and their properties.  To worship or not, as they see fit.  To say FUCK islime and laugh at cuckolds and shame the shit out of all of you for your filthy libtard ways.

And yeah..."Manholelorian" was fuckin' funny.  It takes wit to make sport of beings such as libs.  It doesn't take much to offend one or all of you.  You're not lemmings as lemmings just run off of cliffs.

You're a herd of gerbils.  We all know where gerbils go.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: chaos on March 08, 2020, 08:54:59 AM
How does one do that? How do you prepare for a egomaniac who is also a liar and a cheat?
You're a democrat, liars and cheaters are all you know how to vote for.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 08, 2020, 10:37:50 AM
Press photo for the upcoming Sander v Biden debate.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RaQd_ZWduzU/TrV78AF8ChI/AAAAAAAAIOU/0VyWIaD_ZQU/s1600/Statler+and+Waldorf.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on March 08, 2020, 11:13:28 AM
How does one do that? How do you prepare for a egomaniac who is also a liar and a cheat?

Ask Nancy  ;)

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on March 08, 2020, 11:26:17 AM
Press photo for the upcoming Sander v Biden debate.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RaQd_ZWduzU/TrV78AF8ChI/AAAAAAAAIOU/0VyWIaD_ZQU/s1600/Statler+and+Waldorf.jpg)

LOL "the party of diversity"
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on March 08, 2020, 11:35:24 AM
wooooshhh

ROFL!!


Satire... but probably did happen at some point..

Confused Biden Announces He Is Dropping Out Of Race, Endorses Joe Biden

https://thehardtimes.net/culture/confused-biden-announces-he-is-dropping-out-of-race-endorses-joe-biden/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 08, 2020, 01:34:49 PM

Sheesh...Calm down, tune into Netfux and re-watch "The Manholelorian".


FFS, you libs want to deny Americans the right to be Americans.  To like what they like.  To speak their mind rather than what you tell them to.  To protect themselves, their families and their properties.  To worship or not, as they see fit.  To say FUCK islime and laugh at cuckolds and shame the shit out of all of you for your filthy libtard ways.

And yeah..."Manholelorian" was fuckin' funny.  It takes wit to make sport of beings such as libs.  It doesn't take much to offend one or all of you.  You're not lemmings as lemmings just run off of cliffs.

You're a herd of gerbils.  We all know where gerbils go.

Wow! It is so easy to get you going.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 08, 2020, 01:53:52 PM
Klobuchar seems to have slipped and insinuated that she is going to be VP.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 08, 2020, 02:00:57 PM
DNC Changes Debate Rules So Biden Can Sit Down

(https://thenationalpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/49559272593_0d2a374c29_6k-1536x1024.jpg)


The Democratic National Committee (DNC), aided by CNN, appears to be changing the rules for the next Democratic presidential nominee debate again.

This time, apparently, so former vice president Joe Biden can sit down.

The most pertinent part of a POLITICO article about the Sanders and Biden camps clashing over the debate rules states:

The format for the next debate in Arizona — their first since Biden’s blowout Super Tuesday victories — would have the candidates seated for the first time this election cycle and take multiple questions from the audience. In the prior 10 debates, the candidates stood at lecterns and nearly all questions were asked by the professional moderators.

And while the Biden camp denies pressuring the DNC and CNN to allow Joe to take a load off, the Sanders camp outwardly objected to the rule change. Team Biden did not. Usually, in the murky world of backroom political deals, this means you’re in on it.

“Why does Joe Biden not want to stand toe-to-toe with Sen. Sanders on the debate stage March 15 and have an opportunity to defend his record and articulate his vision for the future?” quipped Jeff Weaver, Bernie Sanders’s senior adviser.

https://thenationalpulse.com/news/dnc-debate-rules-biden-sit-down/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 08, 2020, 02:12:52 PM
FDR didn't even have working legs and he stood up.  ;D

Wonder what odds are that Bernie's ticker fails vs Biden forgetting where he is on stage?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 08, 2020, 02:14:17 PM
Meanwhile Biden gets heckled and says that nobody will be evicted when he is president.  ::)

He also noted it was not a Trump rally, which is evident by the fact that there wasn't anybody there.  8)


https://www.yahoo.com/news/where-live-shouting-protesters-disrupt-024731659.html
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on March 08, 2020, 02:22:05 PM
DNC Changes Debate Rules So Biden Can Sit Down

(https://thenationalpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/49559272593_0d2a374c29_6k-1536x1024.jpg)


The Democratic National Committee (DNC), aided by CNN, appears to be changing the rules for the next Democratic presidential nominee debate again.

This time, apparently, so former vice president Joe Biden can sit down.

The most pertinent part of a POLITICO article about the Sanders and Biden camps clashing over the debate rules states:

The format for the next debate in Arizona — their first since Biden’s blowout Super Tuesday victories — would have the candidates seated for the first time this election cycle and take multiple questions from the audience. In the prior 10 debates, the candidates stood at lecterns and nearly all questions were asked by the professional moderators.

And while the Biden camp denies pressuring the DNC and CNN to allow Joe to take a load off, the Sanders camp outwardly objected to the rule change. Team Biden did not. Usually, in the murky world of backroom political deals, this means you’re in on it.

“Why does Joe Biden not want to stand toe-to-toe with Sen. Sanders on the debate stage March 15 and have an opportunity to defend his record and articulate his vision for the future?” quipped Jeff Weaver, Bernie Sanders’s senior adviser.

https://thenationalpulse.com/news/dnc-debate-rules-biden-sit-down/

If it goes long, both Sanders and Biden will need pit crews to change their Depends in under ten seconds.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 08, 2020, 04:10:02 PM
Skip to comments.

Here It Goes – DNC Says Joe Biden Needs Chair and Desk for Next Debate…
theconservativetreehouse .com ^ | 3/8/20 | sundance
Posted on 3/8/2020, 6:56:53 PM by a little elbow grease

..And it begins; right on cue.

The DNC and CNN collaborate to provide Joe Biden with his preferred comfort format for the next debate on March 15th between Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden. The Club knows Biden does best in debate formats when sitting down at a desk; just like the 2012 debate between Biden and Paul Ryan.

CNN is hosting the debate, and CNN is the most friendly control operation for the needs of the Club. So what happens… CNN and The Club agree to a small venue town hall format where Joe Biden will be sitting down at a desk to debate Bernie Sanders.

It is all predictable in the extreme:

(Politico) Bernie Sanders wants to stand up at the next debate — and his campaign is accusing Joe Biden of wanting to sit down.

After a private call Friday with CNN, which is moderating the March 15 debate with the Democratic National Committee, Sanders’ team balked at a new proposed format for debate, saying it gives his opponent Biden too much of a break in their first one-on-one face-off. Biden’s camp denied that it was pressing for a sit-down debate.

(snip) -- The “audience members” who ask questions will all be plants by the Club and CNN; and the Biden campaign will be provided all of the topics and questions well in advance to assist their rehearsal efforts just like they did for Hillary in 2016.

Wash-Rinse-Repeat.

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse .com ...

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 3; alittlesear
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 08, 2020, 04:35:13 PM
Klobuchar seems to have slipped and insinuated that she is going to be VP.

Amy Kockblocker couldn’t handle being VP at a Golden Corral in Canton, Michigan
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on March 08, 2020, 04:50:59 PM
Wow! It is so easy to get you going.

No...Not really.  I have a sense of humor, even about myself.  I cannot run.  I have a low IQ.  I am a Conservative that doesn't own a gun because I cannot shoot for shit. 

And again, "The Manholelorian" is a superb play on "The Mandalorian".  In the event you cannot fathom what it is saying is Manda becomes Manhole and Manhole is like bunghole, aka, mangina, aka anus.  This brings to mind the term "gloryhole".

"Gloryholeian" is not nearly close enough to Mandalorian and so "The Manholelorian" it is. 

Humor so often escapes liberals but I have not given up all hope.  Yet.  ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Desolate on March 10, 2020, 08:01:37 AM
You want % 100 truths on the Democratic party and the fact that all of it is phony, fake and hypocritical?

Where are all the Women’s groups, all the dykes, all the so-called “true lefties” complaining about the DNC denying Tulsi Gabbard on the debate stage even though she met their standards?

A woman being excluded from debating two old white men?

One would think the outcry would be deafening.

Not a whisper.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: illuminati on March 10, 2020, 08:16:18 AM
You want % 100 truths on the Democratic party and the fact that all of it is phony, fake and hypocritical?

Where are all the Women’s groups, all the dykes, all the so-called “true lefties” complaining about the DNC denying Tulsi Gabbard on the debate stage even though she met their standards?

A woman being excluded from debating two old white men?

One would think the outcry would be deafening.

Not a whisper.


This x2
Well stated
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 10, 2020, 10:18:30 AM
Getting a little aggressive in his old age

(https://tribune.net.ph/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/biden-v-worker2-fr-afp.jpg)


Biden, accused of wanting to end 2nd Amendment, responds: "You're full of sh*t"

Detroit — Joe Biden had a heated exchange with a construction worker who accused him of trying to take Americans' guns away during a campaign stop in Michigan, one of six states holding primaries on Tuesday.

The former vice president was touring an assembly plant under construction for Fiat Chrysler, shaking hands with and praising the electrical workers union members who are building the plant. As Biden was working the room, one man confronted him about his stance on gun ownership.


"You are actively trying to end our Second Amendment right and take away our guns," the worker told Biden.

Biden replied: "You're full of sh**."

"I support the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment — just like right now, if you yelled 'fire,' that's not free speech," Biden continued. "And from the very beginning — I have a shotgun, I have a 20-gauge, a 12-gauge. My sons hunt. Guess what? You're not allowed to own any weapon. I'm not taking your gun away at all."

The man repeated his accusation that Biden was "trying to take our guns," and Biden pushed back. "I did not say that. I did not say that."


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/biden-accused-of-wanting-to-end-2nd-amendment-responds-youre-full-of-shit/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on March 10, 2020, 11:20:56 AM
Biden can't talk in intelligent sentences.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 10, 2020, 12:35:13 PM
Biden can't talk in intelligent sentences.

The DNC strategy seems to be prevent defense. Have him do as little and interact with as few people as possible. It’s a smart move. Every time the guy opens his mouth it’s a disaster.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 10, 2020, 01:02:30 PM
The look on his handler's faces says it all. Grandpa scares me when he gets angry.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 10, 2020, 02:42:29 PM
The look on his handler's faces says it all. Grandpa scares me when he gets angry.

It’s gotten to the point where you watch him speak just to see how he’s gonna fuck up.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: IroNat on March 10, 2020, 02:59:01 PM
Do you want Biden with his finger on the button?

(http://blog.trafficauthority.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/launch-button.png)

Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 10, 2020, 03:17:18 PM
It’s gotten to the point where you watch him speak just to see how he’s gonna fuck up.

Now just imagine 6 more months of mental deterioration and him sitting in a debate trying to match wits with Trump.

Tell me that wouldn't be the funniest thing you have ever seen in your life   :D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Desolate on March 10, 2020, 04:20:13 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/J7X7d5t6/7e08cf4e4b248.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 10, 2020, 07:36:11 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/J7X7d5t6/7e08cf4e4b248.jpg)

Buh-bye Bernie.

The DNC assfucked you and your lemming supporters AGAIN !
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 10, 2020, 09:56:41 PM
The party of open borders is having no audience at their debate for "safety" reasons.

I am entertained.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 11, 2020, 09:47:36 AM
Is Bernie dropping out today? He makes an announcement at 1pm.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on March 11, 2020, 09:48:24 AM
Is Bernie dropping out today? He makes an announcement at 1pm.

Watch - he'll get in line
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 11, 2020, 09:56:52 AM
Watch - he'll get in line


(https://i.imgflip.com/3s5c15.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 11, 2020, 10:26:52 AM
Dem party wants to end the primary now without debates. They want ol' Joe as a DNC puppet just in case Trump would lose. Guy is an empty suit/empty brain.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 11, 2020, 01:58:41 PM
(https://i.redd.it/vqdxyaectol41.jpg)

LOL....

I cannot wait for the President Trump versus Creepy, Sleepy Joe Biden debates !
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on March 11, 2020, 02:07:25 PM
(https://i.redd.it/vqdxyaectol41.jpg)

LOL....

I cannot wait for the President Trump versus Creepy, Sleepy Joe Biden debates !

Sit-down format means they won't need shit crews changing Depends in under ten seconds.
Candidates can just sit on one of these:

(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/8f52d7cd-7600-415e-8451-42765d07d1bd_1.6cc1e04bf9f49e1fe8324a4c4e06a5ee.jpeg?odnWidth=undefined&odnHeight=undefined&odnBg=ffffff)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 11, 2020, 02:11:30 PM
Dem party wants to end the primary now without debates. They want ol' Joe as a DNC puppet just in case Trump would lose. Guy is an empty suit/empty brain.

They’re probably going to get it. Biden is going to win Florida, Illinois and Ohio. No reason for Bernie to keep going after that.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 11, 2020, 02:16:05 PM
Remain in Mexico Asylum Policy to remain in place !

President Donald Trump is the greatest President in the history of the United States.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Desolate on March 11, 2020, 05:24:57 PM
Bernie won't drop out.

Expect him to go full-bore after Joe in that Arizona debate.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 11, 2020, 06:21:24 PM
Biden May Not Be Well Enough To Stand For Debate

(https://images.radio.com/1140wrva/GettyImages-1211470210.jpg?width=775&height=425&crop=775:425&enable=upscale)



The Democratic National Committee (DNC) will be changing the format for the next debate to limit the amount of standing required by candidates on the stage.


The format change was announced on Friday and will go into effect for the next debate, scheduled for March 15 in Phoenix, Arizona. This comes at a time when many are questioning whether former Vice President Joe Biden is physically able to hold the office of the president.

Is the establishment trying to literally prop up Joe Biden?

https://newsradiowrva.radio.com/blogs/jeff-katz/dnc-changes-debate-rules-so-candidates-can-sit-down
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 11, 2020, 08:15:28 PM
Can one of you libidiots like Strawboy, AbrahamGimmick, or Primepedo post a link to Barry Obama pledging his support to Sleepy, Creepy, Senile old quid pro Joe Biden ?

I will wait.

Just want to make sure where the gay Muslim messiah stands on the upcoming election.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 11, 2020, 10:16:03 PM
Biden May Not Be Well Enough To Stand For Debate

(https://images.radio.com/1140wrva/GettyImages-1211470210.jpg?width=775&height=425&crop=775:425&enable=upscale)



The Democratic National Committee (DNC) will be changing the format for the next debate to limit the amount of standing required by candidates on the stage.


The format change was announced on Friday and will go into effect for the next debate, scheduled for March 15 in Phoenix, Arizona. This comes at a time when many are questioning whether former Vice President Joe Biden is physically able to hold the office of the president.

Is the establishment trying to literally prop up Joe Biden?

https://newsradiowrva.radio.com/blogs/jeff-katz/dnc-changes-debate-rules-so-candidates-can-sit-down



My questions is....who actually contols the DNC? Where are the brains of the operation and the big donors?

EVERY large organization has quiet money and influence, it's just that the news doesn't report who these people are.

It's not Perez, Brazile, Biden, Bernie....there is a vacuum of talent but somebody pulled the strings to fix the primary against Bernie, to allow Bloomberg, to exclude Tushi...so...who is it?

It couldn't be more obvious that Biden is a vessel to impart some ideas but whose ideas are they?


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 11, 2020, 10:40:26 PM


My questions is....who actually contols the DNC? Where are the brains of the operation and the big donors?

EVERY large organization has quiet money and influence, it's just that the news doesn't report who these people are.

It's not Perez, Brazile, Biden, Bernie....there is a vacuum of talent but somebody pulled the strings to fix the primary against Bernie, to allow Bloomberg, to exclude Tushi...so...who is it?

It couldn't be more obvious that Biden is a vessel to impart some ideas but whose ideas are they?




(https://cdn.newsbusters.org/images/soros_clinton_pals.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on March 11, 2020, 10:54:35 PM
Where's pizza pedo boy Podesta been since the whole Epstein thing?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 15, 2020, 07:59:00 AM
WATCH: Joe Biden Walks Off Camera During Zoom Virtual Town Hall [VIDEO]

(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/pjimage-1-4.jpg?quality=65&strip=all)


Joe Biden tried to reach out to his voters and answer questions during a virtual town hall on Zoom today. He’s had to cancel a few events because of coronavirus concerns, so he’s looking for other ways to reach voters. But today’s event didn’t go too smoothly. At one point, Biden walked off camera while answering questions. Read on to see what happened and watch a video from the town hall.

Here’s the town hall video live right from Joe Biden’s page. He walks off camera around the two minute mark.

What’s interesting is that he actually seemed to be moving back to face the camera right when the video was taken down. Viewers couldn’t see what was happening after that.

The town hall had quite a few problems during its short life. First, it started two hours late. CNN noted that on the Zoom side, viewers saw the video cutting between alternating views of different people who were present, but the views didn’t always make sense. Sen. Dick Durbin opened the event but he wasn’t on camera while he talked, CNN reported. When Biden spoke at first, no one could understand him because of audio issues.

https://heavy.com/news/2020/03/watch-joe-biden-zoom-town-hall/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 15, 2020, 09:19:31 AM
WATCH: Joe Biden Walks Off Camera During Zoom Virtual Town Hall [VIDEO]

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Joe Biden tried to reach out to his voters and answer questions during a virtual town hall on Zoom today. He’s had to cancel a few events because of coronavirus concerns, so he’s looking for other ways to reach voters. But today’s event didn’t go too smoothly. At one point, Biden walked off camera while answering questions. Read on to see what happened and watch a video from the town hall.

Here’s the town hall video live right from Joe Biden’s page. He walks off camera around the two minute mark.

What’s interesting is that he actually seemed to be moving back to face the camera right when the video was taken down. Viewers couldn’t see what was happening after that.

The town hall had quite a few problems during its short life. First, it started two hours late. CNN noted that on the Zoom side, viewers saw the video cutting between alternating views of different people who were present, but the views didn’t always make sense. Sen. Dick Durbin opened the event but he wasn’t on camera while he talked, CNN reported. When Biden spoke at first, no one could understand him because of audio issues.

https://heavy.com/news/2020/03/watch-joe-biden-zoom-town-hall/

This was like listening to some nut ranting on a street corner.
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Post by: The Scott on March 15, 2020, 10:30:57 AM
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Post by: Skeletor on March 15, 2020, 01:21:09 PM
WATCH: Joe Biden Walks Off Camera During Zoom Virtual Town Hall [VIDEO]

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Joe Biden tried to reach out to his voters and answer questions during a virtual town hall on Zoom today. He’s had to cancel a few events because of coronavirus concerns, so he’s looking for other ways to reach voters. But today’s event didn’t go too smoothly. At one point, Biden walked off camera while answering questions. Read on to see what happened and watch a video from the town hall.

Here’s the town hall video live right from Joe Biden’s page. He walks off camera around the two minute mark.

What’s interesting is that he actually seemed to be moving back to face the camera right when the video was taken down. Viewers couldn’t see what was happening after that.

The town hall had quite a few problems during its short life. First, it started two hours late. CNN noted that on the Zoom side, viewers saw the video cutting between alternating views of different people who were present, but the views didn’t always make sense. Sen. Dick Durbin opened the event but he wasn’t on camera while he talked, CNN reported. When Biden spoke at first, no one could understand him because of audio issues.

https://heavy.com/news/2020/03/watch-joe-biden-zoom-town-hall/

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Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on March 19, 2020, 05:57:22 PM
Tulsi Gabbard Finally Ended Her Increasingly Quixotic Campaign
By Nathaniel Rakich
MAR. 19, 2020

Many people might be surprised to learn that Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard was still running for president; indeed, she stuck around far longer than it probably made sense to. After Tuesday’s primaries, she was mathematically eliminated, as there weren’t enough pledged delegates left for her to win the Democratic nomination. But on Thursday morning, she finally called it quits.

Gabbard entered the race in January 2019 with an intriguing profile: a woman of color, a military veteran, a millennial who advocated for new voices within the Democratic Party (despite a congressional voting record that skewed more moderate than the rest of the party, she resigned as vice chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee in 2016 to endorse Sen. Bernie Sanders).

But it was hard for Gabbard to make inroads with Democratic voters — the more Democrats got to know her over the course of the campaign, the less they liked her. This was probably compounded by the fact that perhaps the most attention Gabbard received all cycle long was when former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton suggested Republicans were “grooming” her to be a third-party spoiler and when Gabbard was one of only three Democrats who did not vote in favor of impeaching President Trump.

There were many other long-shot candidates in 2020, but what set Gabbard apart was how long she stayed in the race despite not winning more than 4 percent of the vote in any contest except tiny American Samoa (where she was born). Other candidates stuck in the 1 to 2 percent range in national polls dropped out once voting began, if not before. She even gave up a safe House seat to stay in the presidential race, announcing in October that she would not run for reelection even though Hawaii is one of the few states that allows candidates to run for Congress and president at the same time.1 Even by March, after candidates like former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who were polling above 10 percent nationally, were dropping out of the race, Gabbard pushed on.

By then, Gabbard’s campaign looked more like a protest campaign than one with any intention of winning. She did not contest multiple key states on the primary calendar, including Iowa, where she did not hold a public event after Oct. 24, 2019. In early March, she told ABC News she was staying in the race in order to speak to Americans “about the sea change we need in our foreign policy” and promote her pet issue of ending military intervention abroad. It was beginning to look like Gabbard would take her campaign almost all the way to the convention, following in the footsteps of past presidential candidates who were misfits in their own party, like former Reps. Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul. But money may have been an issue for Gabbard; in January, she raised only $1.1 million but spent $1.8 million, an obviously unsustainable rate.

Upon dropping out of the race, Gabbard also endorsed former Vice President Joe Biden, despite the fact that her 2016 pick, Sanders, is still in the race, albeit a heavy underdog. It was an interesting olive branch to the establishment wing of the party with which Gabbard has openly feuded so much in the past. It would also seem to foreclose the possibility that Gabbard will run as a third-party candidate in the general election, perhaps splitting the Democratic vote and throwing the election to Trump. She has previously denied that she would do so, but it would be especially difficult for her now to turn around and campaign against a candidate she has endorsed.

And although her withdrawal from the race may be a mere formality at this point, it is symbolic because she was the last major presidential candidate2 who was nonwhite, as well as the last woman in the race. America’s first elected female president will have to wait at least four more years. Another less significant but more surprising streak will also continue: With Gabbard’s departure, Democrats still have never nominated a presidential candidate from the West.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/tulsi-gabbard-finally-ended-her-increasingly-quixotic-campaign/
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Post by: polychronopolous on March 22, 2020, 06:50:29 PM
As #WhereIsJoe Biden Trends, Sanders to Host Coronavirus Roundtable to Address Pandemic

"Trump is in front of the cameras every day, reassuring people, putting on the appearance of 'leadership,'" said one Democratic critic. "Where is Biden? Why isn't he dominating the airwaves?"

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While users on social media asked Friday why Democratic presidential frontrunner Joe Biden appears to be missing in action on the coronvirus crisis—causing the #WhereIsJoe hashtag to trend— Sen. Bernie Sanders indicated his intention to remain focused on the global pandemic by announcing a virtual roundtable event focused on the crisis.

The campaigns of both remaining Democratic contenders have been dramatically curtailed by the infectious disease, but Sanders—who remains a sitting member of the U.S. Senate—has been much more active and vocal on the subject of how to manage the outbreak over the last week, even as his presidential hopes have been dashed by repeated primary losses to Biden.

On Tuesday, Sanders released a blueprint for what he believes is necessary to fight the pandemic while also protecting working families and the nation's most vulnerable from economic fallout. Called "An Emergency Response to the Coronavirus Pandemic," the plan sets forth a series of principles alongside detailed policies that guarantee healthcare coverage related to both testing and treatment of the virus be fully covered at no cost, would establish an Emergency Economic Finance Agency to manage the crisis, and create a separate oversight agency designed to protect consumers from price-gouging and corporate corruption.


While Biden also released a coronavirus action proposal—the "Plan to Combat Coronavirus (Covid-19) and Prepare for Future Global Health Threats"—the former vice president has been noticeably absent from the airwaves despite largely being seen as the presumptive Democratic nominee. Biden has pitched himself as the best candidate to take on President Donald Trump over his presidential mismanagement and crass leadership—a critique that others say is now more relevant than ever given Trump's egregious handling of the coronavirus outbreak.

As Peter Daou, Democratic operative and Sanders supporter, stated on Twitter:

"While Bernie Sanders leads," wrote historian Christo Aivalis, "Joe Biden is hiding. In this crucial moment, Americans need leadership, and they aren't getting from the man already being crowned as the Democratic nominee."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/20/whereisjoe-biden-trends-sanders-host-coronavirus-roundtable-address-pandemic
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Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 22, 2020, 10:01:56 PM
Why do Dem candidates do better when they cancel appearances?
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Post by: JustPlaneJane on March 23, 2020, 08:03:18 AM
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Post by: The Scott on March 23, 2020, 08:09:23 AM
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He's a BallCNNian.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 24, 2020, 07:16:10 PM
Biden Gaffes His Way Through Coronavirus Proof-of-Life Video

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Andrew Stiles - March 23, 2020 3:15 PM

Former vice president Joe Biden delivered a live-streamed address to supporters on Monday in an effort to assuage concerns regarding his whereabouts and wellbeing during the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.

Though Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee for president, appeared to be in relatively good health, he was unable to make it through the roughly 15-minute "proof of life" video without committing a series of gaffes, flubs, and incoherencies.


The address got off to an awkward start, as a visibly confused Biden required several reassurances from staffers that the camera was rolling before he began reading his scripted speech from a teleprompter, which at one point experienced some technical difficulties.

    Biden's teleprompter broke pic.twitter.com/kgGqYV6wl2

    — Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) March 23, 2020

Biden outlined steps he believes the federal government should take to combat the China-caused pandemic, but it wasn't always clear what the hell he was talking about. "We need to build an arsenal of democracy, as we did in 1940," Biden said at one point. "We can take, we can make a personal productive equipment."

The former vice president—who, as a 77-year-old man, is in the demographic most at risk of dying from the coronavirus—went on to praise a number of Republican governors, including "Gov. Charlie Parker in Massachusetts." He was presumably referring to Republican governor Charlie Baker, not to jazz legend Charlie Parker. But maybe not. After all, one of Biden's greatest strengths as an orator is that he always keeps his audience on its toes.

https://freebeacon.com/satire/biden-proof-of-life/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on March 24, 2020, 07:54:25 PM
Keeping Joe in the campaign is elder abuse.  He won't be fit for interviews in just a couple of years.

"We have to take care of the cure that will make the problem worse no matter what."

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Post by: AbrahamG on March 24, 2020, 08:01:22 PM
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For fuck sakes dude.  LMFAO.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: The Scott on March 24, 2020, 08:27:44 PM
For fuck sakes dude.  LMFAO.

I was merely paying homage to one of the all time great films, "Caddyshack". ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: AbrahamG on March 24, 2020, 10:05:59 PM
I was merely paying homage to one of the all time great films, "Caddyshack". ;D

Great movie, don't know how I missed that.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 24, 2020, 11:41:40 PM
Keeping Joe in the campaign is elder abuse.  He won't be fit for interviews in just a couple of years weeks.


Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 25, 2020, 06:53:10 PM
Joe Biden replaced by Andrew Cuomo? Not so far-fetched

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By Joe Battenfeld | joe.battenfeld@bostonherald.com | Boston Herald
PUBLISHED: March 25, 2020 at 6:57 p.m. | UPDATED: March 25, 2020 at 7:00 p.m.

Democrats are coming down with a sudden case of buyers’ remorse.

While Joe Biden stumbles around to wrap up the Democratic nomination, it’s another Democratic pol — New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo — who’s emerged as the No. 1 political star of the coronavirus era.

Cuomo is everything Biden is not — a strong orator who oozes leadership and decisiveness. He’s macho without being threatening or creepy.

The liberal New York governor’s daily press briefings have become appointment viewing on the national cable outlets like CNN and MSNBC — and even Fox News.

“Times have changed & we need Gov. Cuomo to be the nominee,” says a Draft Cuomo Twitter account that recently popped up. “Our next POTUS must be one w/an ability to lead through his crisis.”

But could it really happen? Will Democrats move to make Cuomo their nominee, bumping out Biden, who is quickly amassing enough delegates to secure the nomination?

Yes, it can happen — if the coronavirus crisis continues to worsen and Biden continues to flounder. It would take a series of seemingly unlikely series of events to make Cuomo the nominee.

Biden’s victories on Super Tuesday and Super Tuesday 2 put him on the path toward the nomination but the former vice president virtually disappeared when the crisis began to take a turn for the worse. He has struggled to become relevant in the past few weeks, appearing on soft shows like “The View” and delivering a strange livestream speech in his library that did not inspire optimism.

“We have to take care of the cure,” Biden said in another of his nonsensical ramblings. “That will make the problem worse no matter what.”

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/03/25/joe-biden-replaced-by-andrew-cuomo-not-so-far-fetched/
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Post by: Soul Crusher on March 26, 2020, 01:13:13 AM
I definitely think this might happen.


Joe Biden replaced by Andrew Cuomo? Not so far-fetched

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By Joe Battenfeld | joe.battenfeld@bostonherald.com | Boston Herald
PUBLISHED: March 25, 2020 at 6:57 p.m. | UPDATED: March 25, 2020 at 7:00 p.m.

Democrats are coming down with a sudden case of buyers’ remorse.

While Joe Biden stumbles around to wrap up the Democratic nomination, it’s another Democratic pol — New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo — who’s emerged as the No. 1 political star of the coronavirus era.

Cuomo is everything Biden is not — a strong orator who oozes leadership and decisiveness. He’s macho without being threatening or creepy.

The liberal New York governor’s daily press briefings have become appointment viewing on the national cable outlets like CNN and MSNBC — and even Fox News.

“Times have changed & we need Gov. Cuomo to be the nominee,” says a Draft Cuomo Twitter account that recently popped up. “Our next POTUS must be one w/an ability to lead through his crisis.”

But could it really happen? Will Democrats move to make Cuomo their nominee, bumping out Biden, who is quickly amassing enough delegates to secure the nomination?

Yes, it can happen — if the coronavirus crisis continues to worsen and Biden continues to flounder. It would take a series of seemingly unlikely series of events to make Cuomo the nominee.

Biden’s victories on Super Tuesday and Super Tuesday 2 put him on the path toward the nomination but the former vice president virtually disappeared when the crisis began to take a turn for the worse. He has struggled to become relevant in the past few weeks, appearing on soft shows like “The View” and delivering a strange livestream speech in his library that did not inspire optimism.

“We have to take care of the cure,” Biden said in another of his nonsensical ramblings. “That will make the problem worse no matter what.”

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/03/25/joe-biden-replaced-by-andrew-cuomo-not-so-far-fetched/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: loco on March 26, 2020, 01:56:52 AM
Keeping Joe in the campaign is elder abuse.  He won't be fit for interviews in just a couple of years.

"We have to take care of the cure that will make the problem worse no matter what."



WTF?  Old, demented pedo.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 26, 2020, 07:42:57 AM
Biden: 'I think we've had enough debates


Former Vice President Joe Biden on Wednesday said it's time for the Democratic primary to draw to a close and signaled a disinterest in participating in a final debate against Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

"My focus is just dealing with this crisis right now," Biden said at a virtual press conference. "I haven't thought about any more debates. I think we've had enough debates. I think we should get on with this."


The remarks come a day after the Sanders campaign reiterated its intention to participate in the 12th debate of the primary cycle. Biden and Sanders are the only remaining candidates in the race.

"If there is a debate in April, he plans to be there," Sanders spokesman Mike Casca said.

The Democratic National Committee (DNC) originally scheduled 12 debates and 11 have taken place so far. The DNC has not responded to a request for comment about the whether the final debate is still in the works.

The coronavirus has taken Biden and Sanders off the campaign trail and several states have postponed their primary elections.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/489482-biden-i-think-weve-had-enough-debates?amp
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Post by: polychronopolous on March 26, 2020, 11:00:32 AM
Joe Biden’s Sexual Assault Accuser Breaks Silence With Graphic Allegations


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In April of last year, Tara Reade accused Joe Biden of inappropriate behavior when she worked at his Senate office in 1993. Now, she’s accusing the Democratic presidential nominee of sexual assault, according to a graphic interview with podcaster Katie Halper.
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When Reade initially came out about her experience with Biden, she told The Union that he did uncomfortable things like “put his hand on my shoulder and run his finger up my neck.” Reade also said that she cut ties with Biden’s office over an early 1993 staff argument. According to Reade, Biden wanted her to serve drinks because he liked her legs. Reade says she didn’t hear this directly from Biden but she learned of it during her argument with staff. Reade refused to serve the drinks, which she believes was a move that affected her career.

“My life was hell,” Reade said. “This was about power and control. I couldn’t get a job on the Hill.” She eventually left Biden’s office in August of 1993.

Now, Reade is speaking out even more with a sexual assault allegation against Biden. Katie Halper posted an excerpt from an interview done with Reade to Twitter around 2 a.m. on Wednesday, writing “This is a story that @ReadeAlexandra has been trying to tell since it happened in 1993. It’s a story about sexual assault, retaliation and silencing.

https://newsone.com/3917043/tara-reade-joe-biden-sexual-assault-accuser-breaks-silence/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 26, 2020, 11:08:48 AM
Democrats are setting this up to get Cuomo to run.   Biden is a loser and joke. 

Joe Biden’s Sexual Assault Accuser Breaks Silence With Graphic Allegations


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In April of last year, Tara Reade accused Joe Biden of inappropriate behavior when she worked at his Senate office in 1993. Now, she’s accusing the Democratic presidential nominee of sexual assault, according to a graphic interview with podcaster Katie Halper.
story continues below advertisement

When Reade initially came out about her experience with Biden, she told The Union that he did uncomfortable things like “put his hand on my shoulder and run his finger up my neck.” Reade also said that she cut ties with Biden’s office over an early 1993 staff argument. According to Reade, Biden wanted her to serve drinks because he liked her legs. Reade says she didn’t hear this directly from Biden but she learned of it during her argument with staff. Reade refused to serve the drinks, which she believes was a move that affected her career.

“My life was hell,” Reade said. “This was about power and control. I couldn’t get a job on the Hill.” She eventually left Biden’s office in August of 1993.

Now, Reade is speaking out even more with a sexual assault allegation against Biden. Katie Halper posted an excerpt from an interview done with Reade to Twitter around 2 a.m. on Wednesday, writing “This is a story that @ReadeAlexandra has been trying to tell since it happened in 1993. It’s a story about sexual assault, retaliation and silencing.

https://newsone.com/3917043/tara-reade-joe-biden-sexual-assault-accuser-breaks-silence/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 26, 2020, 11:48:27 AM
Democrats are setting this up to get Cuomo to run.   Biden is a loser and joke. 


Those were my thoughts as well.

Take it to the second ballot in Milwaukee and the superdelegates vote in Cuomo while at the same time rubbing the Bernie Bros noses in dog sh*t. Just total disrespect to their candidate.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on March 26, 2020, 01:32:04 PM
Joe Biden replaced by Andrew Cuomo? Not so far-fetched

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By Joe Battenfeld | joe.battenfeld@bostonherald.com | Boston Herald
PUBLISHED: March 25, 2020 at 6:57 p.m. | UPDATED: March 25, 2020 at 7:00 p.m.

Democrats are coming down with a sudden case of buyers’ remorse.

While Joe Biden stumbles around to wrap up the Democratic nomination, it’s another Democratic pol — New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo — who’s emerged as the No. 1 political star of the coronavirus era.

Cuomo is everything Biden is not — a strong orator who oozes leadership and decisiveness. He’s macho without being threatening or creepy.

The liberal New York governor’s daily press briefings have become appointment viewing on the national cable outlets like CNN and MSNBC — and even Fox News.

“Times have changed & we need Gov. Cuomo to be the nominee,” says a Draft Cuomo Twitter account that recently popped up. “Our next POTUS must be one w/an ability to lead through his crisis.”

But could it really happen? Will Democrats move to make Cuomo their nominee, bumping out Biden, who is quickly amassing enough delegates to secure the nomination?

Yes, it can happen — if the coronavirus crisis continues to worsen and Biden continues to flounder. It would take a series of seemingly unlikely series of events to make Cuomo the nominee.

Biden’s victories on Super Tuesday and Super Tuesday 2 put him on the path toward the nomination but the former vice president virtually disappeared when the crisis began to take a turn for the worse. He has struggled to become relevant in the past few weeks, appearing on soft shows like “The View” and delivering a strange livestream speech in his library that did not inspire optimism.

“We have to take care of the cure,” Biden said in another of his nonsensical ramblings. “That will make the problem worse no matter what.”

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/03/25/joe-biden-replaced-by-andrew-cuomo-not-so-far-fetched/

The DNC can’t take Biden seriously.  They have to bring in somebody else, and it will be interesting to watch their machinations.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Primemuscle on March 26, 2020, 01:50:03 PM
Joe Biden presents a dilemma for those of us who preferred a more energetic and relevant Democratic presidential candidate. I was hoping for someone younger. So, regardless of if it's Bernie or Joe, neither is my choice. If there is a way for the Democratic party to come up with a better candidate at this point in the election, I think they should do it. No matter whether you choose Trump, Biden or Sanders, you are getting someone who is too old for the job. Yeah I know, this is age discrimination. Which is particularly funny considering my age. But than, I am not running for president....or even competing for a job.   
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 26, 2020, 02:46:20 PM
Biden: 'I think we've had enough debates


Former Vice President Joe Biden on Wednesday said it's time for the Democratic primary to draw to a close and signaled a disinterest in participating in a final debate against Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

"My focus is just dealing with this crisis right now," Biden said at a virtual press conference. "I haven't thought about any more debates. I think we've had enough debates. I think we should get on with this."


The remarks come a day after the Sanders campaign reiterated its intention to participate in the 12th debate of the primary cycle. Biden and Sanders are the only remaining candidates in the race.

"If there is a debate in April, he plans to be there," Sanders spokesman Mike Casca said.

The Democratic National Committee (DNC) originally scheduled 12 debates and 11 have taken place so far. The DNC has not responded to a request for comment about the whether the final debate is still in the works.

The coronavirus has taken Biden and Sanders off the campaign trail and several states have postponed their primary elections.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/489482-biden-i-think-weve-had-enough-debates?amp


He's not in congress...does he know it? What is he doing exactly?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Moontrane on March 26, 2020, 03:48:55 PM

He's not in congress...does he know it? What is he doing exactly?


Depends.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 27, 2020, 04:08:29 PM
Joe Rogan: Joe Biden ‘Can Barely Remember What He’s Talking About,’ Donald Trump Would ‘Eat Him Alive’

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During an episode of his immensely popular podcast broadcast on Thursday, comedian Joe Rogan argued that the Democratic Party’s likely presidential nominee, former Vice President Joe Biden, is in no shape to run a campaign against President Donald Trump.

Per The Hill, while speaking with fellow comedian Joey Diaz, Rogan played clips of Biden’s recent “gaffes,” suggesting that the politician is experiencing cognitive decline. “You have to be able call out s**t that’s wrong on your side,” Rogan began, playing clips of Biden struggling and stumbling over his words during recent media interviews.

“And this is one of the problems that the Democratic Party is having right now with this Joe Biden guy,” Rogan added, urging Democrats to acknowledge what he claim is the reality of the situation, or Trump will easily beat their candidate.

“You guys got to be able to call it out. You can’t let this slide, because everybody else sees it and Trump is going to eat him alive. He’s going to eat that guy alive,” the comedian said.

https://www.inquisitr.com/5966842/joe-rogan-joe-biden-barely-remember-trump/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on March 30, 2020, 03:33:47 PM
Former EXO member Luhan trends in American politics after Joe Biden mistakenly calls COVID-19 the "Luhan virus"

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During a recent live conversation with nurses, firefighters, and emergency staff on the front lines of COVID-19, Vice-President Joe Biden baffled many when he mistakenly calls Coronavirus the "Luhan virus". That sparked many debates about his mistakes which resulted in Luhan trending in American politics.


 Meanwhile, EXO-Ls and other k-pop fans who came on their social media were utterly confused about why Luhan was trending "Politics" in the US. Biden's opponents, their supporters and entire social media could not let the mistake go as they searched up the name Luhan which resulted in many other hilarious mistakes on their end concerning EXO and their former member.

    I am dying lol what is this dont even understand why how when is EXO and Luhan related to this? @weareoneEXO Anyway follow and stan EXO. OTP12 forever and yes Lay is still a member otp9 pic.twitter.com/zwedlnckNs
    — CheesySuhoGiveUsASign(NEED_EXO_REPACK_2020) (@EXOLsoneRock1) March 28, 2020

    I was like why is Luhan trending under politics 😭😭😭 I got scared
    — Johnny Kicked Our Asses 🤪 (@e_X_oWuJohnSuh) March 28, 2020

    NOOO 😭😭😭pic.twitter.com/eZMe0W9VYH
    — azie 🥢 (@drmvelvet) March 28, 2020

    #Luhan Luhan is trending due to Biden referencing #COVID19 as the Luhan Virus ( meant Wuhan)?@JoeBiden Lu Han: 29-year-old former member of the boy band #Exo, known for hits like "Monster" and "Ko Ko Bop."

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/03/former-exo-member-luhan-trends-in-american-politics-after-joe-biden-mistakenly-calls-covid-19-the-luhan-virus
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 02, 2020, 09:20:32 AM
Democratic National Convention postponed until August due to coronavirus pandemic
https://www.tmj4.com/news/coronavirus/democratic-national-convention-postponed-until-august-due-to-coronavirus-pandemic ^ | 11:02 AM, Apr 02, 2020
Posted on 4/2/2020, 12:09:19 PM by Ronaldus Magnus

MILWAUKEE -- The 2020 Democratic National Convention has officially been postponed until August due to the coronavirus pandemic, the Democratic Party announced Thursday.

The convention was originally scheduled for July 13-17. It will now be held the week of August 17.

“In our current climate of uncertainty, we believe the smartest approach is to take additional time to monitor how this situation unfolds so we can best position our party for a safe and successful convention," said Joe Solmonese, CEO of the Democratic National Convention Committee. "During this critical time, when the scope and scale of the pandemic and its impact remain unknown, we will continue to monitor the situation and follow the advice of health care professionals and emergency responders."

The move came following recent calls from major political players, including Democratic frontrunner for president Joe Biden, to postpone the convention.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 02, 2020, 10:41:03 AM
Democratic National Convention postponed until August due to coronavirus pandemic
https://www.tmj4.com/news/coronavirus/democratic-national-convention-postponed-until-august-due-to-coronavirus-pandemic ^ | 11:02 AM, Apr 02, 2020
Posted on 4/2/2020, 12:09:19 PM by Ronaldus Magnus

MILWAUKEE -- The 2020 Democratic National Convention has officially been postponed until August due to the coronavirus pandemic, the Democratic Party announced Thursday.

The convention was originally scheduled for July 13-17. It will now be held the week of August 17.

“In our current climate of uncertainty, we believe the smartest approach is to take additional time to monitor how this situation unfolds so we can best position our party for a safe and successful convention," said Joe Solmonese, CEO of the Democratic National Convention Committee. "During this critical time, when the scope and scale of the pandemic and its impact remain unknown, we will continue to monitor the situation and follow the advice of health care professionals and emergency responders."

The move came following recent calls from major political players, including Democratic frontrunner for president Joe Biden, to postpone the convention.

So April, May, June, July...4 more months of cognitive decline for an old man who is already clearly going downhill very fast.

This should be very interesting.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 04, 2020, 06:17:19 AM
Comedian Joe Rogan: I'd Vote for Trump over Biden

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Comedian and podcast host Joe Rogan said Friday that he would rather vote for President Donald Trump over former Vice President Joe Biden, the presumptive Democrat nominee, in a hypothetical general election match-up.

Rogan made the remark when his wide-ranging conversation with Eric Weinstein, managing director of Thiel Capital and host of the podcast The Portal, took a turn into the current state of 2020 politics.

A partial transcript is as follows:

    ERIC WEINSTEIN: I think that in general people, when they are given no choice at all, express themselves moronically.

    JOE ROGAN: When they are given no choice at all — How so?

    WEINSTEIN: I want a choice of an actual president that’s viable. I don’t have one. Now you’re going to ask me which of the none-viable people do you like best?

    ROGAN: This is the real issue with the Democratic Party. They’ve essentially made us all morons with this Joe Biden thing.

    WEINSTEIN: Can you imagine?

    ROGAN: I can’t vote for that guy.

    WEINSTEIN: I can’t vote for him, I can’t vote for Trump.

    ROGAN: I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden]. I don’t think he can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fuck he’ll be like after a year in office. The pressure of being President of the United States is something than no one has ever prepared for. The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough. He doesn’t seem to be aging at all or in any sort of decline. Obama, almost immediately, started looking older. George W. [Bush], almost immediately, started looking older.

Rogan’s comments come after he called Biden “very old” and mocked his frequent verbal flubs as “not a normal way to communicate unless he’s high as f*ck.” In the same podcast interview, Rogan predicted that President Trump is “going to eat him alive” in the 2020 election.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/03/comedian-podcast-hostjoe-rogan-id-vote-for-trump-over-biden/
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Irongrip400 on April 04, 2020, 07:17:24 AM
So April, May, June, July...4 more months of cognitive decline for an old man who is already clearly going downhill very fast.

This should be very interesting.

Should give them plenty of time to figure out a way to get Cuomo installed as the candidate.

Where’s Bernie?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 04, 2020, 02:37:05 PM
Should give them plenty of time to figure out a way to get Cuomo installed as the candidate.

Where’s Bernie?

Cuomo said he doesn't want the position but we'll see what happens.

Bernie simply has zero fight within him. Zero guts. Zero courage.

Even if Biden were to check out with a major stroke or aneurysm, I doubt Bernie would even step up to take the mantle.

He is simply kicking back and lining his pockets at this stage.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: polychronopolous on April 04, 2020, 02:37:52 PM
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Irongrip400 on April 05, 2020, 08:03:56 AM
Cuomo said he doesn't want the position but we'll see what happens.

Bernie simply has zero fight within him. Zero guts. Zero courage.

Even if Biden were to check out with a major stroke or aneurysm, I doubt Bernie would even step up to take the mantle.

He is simply kicking back and lining his pockets at this stage.

Biden should court Tulsi if he wants a chance.
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Grape Ape on April 05, 2020, 08:33:19 AM
Biden should court Tulsi if he wants a chance.

Someone polling <1% gives him a chance?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Irongrip400 on April 05, 2020, 11:19:32 AM
Someone polling <1% gives him a chance?


He said he was going to pick a female running mate. She was the most level headed/conservative of the bunch. He might be able to sell himself as more “middle of the road” with her. I doubt he’d do it, but could you imagine the trouncing he’d get it he took on Warren as VP running mate?
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 05, 2020, 12:10:57 PM
Man, can't wait for Gov Cuomo to take the nomination at the Dem Convention...what could go wrong?




























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 ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on April 08, 2020, 08:36:47 AM
It's over!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on April 08, 2020, 08:57:02 AM
It's over!
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 08, 2020, 09:01:47 AM
(https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/THATSALL.jpg?itok=03PR-Ef_)
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on April 08, 2020, 09:17:47 AM
Am I missing something?

Biden had 1215 delegates to Bernie's 909, out of 4765 total.....

That means more than half are still in play, there were more than enough left for it to be possible for Bernie to overtake Biden.


 ???
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: TheGrinch on April 08, 2020, 09:19:42 AM
Also...

I'm thinking Biden gets replaced for "health reasons" by whomever the DNC chooses.

At that point "your" choice was now chosen for you..lol

Screw voting.... and TPTB will tell you "here's your potus".. not shy any more about you not having a choice and pretty much telling you that to your face
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on April 08, 2020, 09:35:29 AM
Also...

I'm thinking Biden gets replaced for "health reasons" by whomever the DNC chooses.

At that point "your" choice was now chosen for you..lol

Screw voting.... and TPTB will tell you "here's your potus".. not shy any more about you not having a choice and pretty much telling you that to your face

This has been Hillary's nomination all along!!!!  :-*
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2020, 09:44:24 AM
F bernie - loser marxist fraud
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on April 08, 2020, 01:58:38 PM
F bernie - loser marxist fraud

another cockroach is gone  ;D
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 08, 2020, 06:47:45 PM
Poor Bernie.  Foiled by the establishment again. 
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Dos Equis on April 08, 2020, 06:53:42 PM
People vote the top of the ticket but she would be a horrible selection.  Actually, I doubt he's going to pick anyone good anyway.  He's a mess.

Biden, at first virtual event as presumptive nominee, says he's 'coming for' Kamala Harris
By Gregg Re | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-virtual-town-hall-presumptive-nominee-coming-for-kamala-harris
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Yamcha on April 09, 2020, 05:02:54 AM
People vote the top of the ticket but she would be a horrible selection.  Actually, I doubt he's going to pick anyone good anyway.  He's a mess.

Biden, at first virtual event as presumptive nominee, says he's 'coming for' Kamala Harris
By Gregg Re | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-virtual-town-hall-presumptive-nominee-coming-for-kamala-harris

well, she knows how to get the job done...
Title: Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 09, 2020, 05:56:57 AM
Democrats Likely to Dump Biden
American Thinker.com ^ | April 19, 2020 | Fletch Daniels
Posted on 4/9/2020

As Democrat power brokers survey the constantly shifting ground in the lead-up to the national election, it is not hard to guess the candidate strategy discussions going on in their super-secret supervillain lairs.

Plan A: Hide a Biden

The first strategy is to run nobody at all, which is another way of saying they stick with Joe Biden. The idea here is to use the current COVID-19 environment to keep Joe Biden safely tucked away and quiet while the media and surrogates do the heavy reinvention.

This is not an altogether bad strategy and probably the best one they have if Biden remains the candidate since it is becoming obvious to everyone not named Joe Biden that Biden's sharpest days are long behind him. Let's be honest: he was never that sharp even in his glory days, but he was certainly a lot more lucid when he helped spearhead the despicable character assassination of Robert Bork.

What commends this strategy is that national presidential elections tend to be referenda on the incumbent. With that in mind, there are worse ideas than sticking a muzzle on ole Joe and hiding him under a rock, or in a bunker full of rubber toys.

This is not to say candidates don't matter. Elections are fought on the margin for a small percentage of votes that can be shifted. A strong or weak candidate can shift a small percentage of votes in either direction or change the turnout model. In a closely divided country, small shifts are deadly.

Still, more people will vote based upon their perception of President Donald Trump than any thought about Joe Biden if the media-Democrat battle station can keep the latter shielded from scrutiny.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...